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Speaker 1: Seven forty one IFI five KRSD talk station. Happy Friday,
Speaker 1: Eve joining the program. Now he's gonna be doing the
Speaker 1: Power You seminar tonight about John Hancock, one of our
Speaker 1: prominent founding fathers. My guest today, John O'Neill. He's a
Speaker 1: thirty five year professional career participated in and manage people
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Speaker 1: He's also an authority on John Hancock, which you'll be
Speaker 1: talking about tonight. Empower Youoamerica dot org. Register and watch
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Speaker 1: and Boulevard to see my guests in person. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, John O'Neil. Great to have you on today.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian, and good morning.
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure having you on the program. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one thing. Benjamin Franklin was the oldest signer of
Speaker 1: the Declaration of Independence at seventy, but the rest of
Speaker 1: them pretty young people by modern standards. I mean, James
Speaker 1: Monroe is eighteen and the subject of your conversation. Thirty
Speaker 1: nine years old at the time of the signing, so
Speaker 1: fairly young men, but unbelievably intellectually superior folks. When you
Speaker 1: read what they wrote, like the Federalist papers and the
Speaker 1: actual you know, Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. These
Speaker 1: were smart, smart people.
Speaker 3: Yes they were. They were very smart people. They had
Speaker 3: an intrinsic knowledge of fair and just and the first
Speaker 3: few lines of the Declaration of Independence really say at all.
Speaker 1: So what drew you to your interest in John Hancock
Speaker 1: as opposed to any of the other founding fathers.
Speaker 3: Well earlier this summer I read a short article about Hancock.
Speaker 3: I came across it somewhere I can't even remember, but
Speaker 3: it piqued my curiosity to find out more. So I
Speaker 3: did a little I did a little googling, which is
Speaker 3: another word for research, now, isn't it, And found out
Speaker 3: that and found out he is US has a number
Speaker 3: of schools named after him, both elementary and high schools.
Speaker 3: He has buildings named after him just as like the
Speaker 3: John Hancock Tower in Boston and the Hancock Center in Chicago.
Speaker 3: And interestingly enough, he has six navy warships named after
Speaker 3: and I found this out just in a short googling session,
Speaker 3: and I thought, well, this guy has been immortalized in
Speaker 3: so many ways, but so many of us have no
Speaker 3: idea who he is other than he played a role
Speaker 3: in the fight for independence, but so did others, and
Speaker 3: he signed his declaration, so did others. And he writes me.
Speaker 1: That I remember when I was in elementary school and
Speaker 1: they took us to see seventeen seventy six, remember the musical,
Speaker 1: And I remember him saying, you know, why did you
Speaker 1: write your why'd you sign your signature so large?
Speaker 3: John?
Speaker 1: And he said, because I wanted the King to be
Speaker 1: able to see it right playing their dead center, where's
Speaker 1: my name? I'm proud of what.
Speaker 3: I did without his glasses, And which is why he
Speaker 3: was the first signer of the declaration. Also, so he
Speaker 3: had plenty of space to write his name. Everybody else
Speaker 3: had the writer. There was a lot of signers of
Speaker 3: the declaration. When you look at it, that paper at
Speaker 3: the bottom where everybody signed is pretty full.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It was full. But let's let's explain
Speaker 1: the landscape of the people. Not ever, it was in
Speaker 1: favor of breaking away from Britain. There were a lot
Speaker 1: of people who were pro British and one of their
Speaker 1: main colonies. What was the sentiment of the people generally,
Speaker 1: because these guys were the radicals of their day.
Speaker 3: Yes, And the center of all of this rebellion issue
Speaker 3: is in Boston, Massachusetts. And Sam Adams is the instigator here.
Speaker 3: And Sam Adams is a the Sam Adams, the cousin
Speaker 3: of our second president, John Adams, is a pretty much
Speaker 3: of a n'er do well, quite honestly. And the one
Speaker 3: thing he can do well is to rile up people
Speaker 3: against taxation in Britain. And it was taxation that really
Speaker 3: started all of this. But a lot of the colonies
Speaker 3: were not particularly happy at what was going on down
Speaker 3: in Boston, and it was there was a possibility that
Speaker 3: of the civil war between the colonies. Even a few
Speaker 3: local militias were formed account of the rebels. Now, one
Speaker 3: of the most important contributions that Hancock made was he
Speaker 3: used a great part of his fortune. He was rich,
Speaker 3: he had in today's dollars, he was worth about five
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety four million dollars. A lot of money
Speaker 3: back on any day, isn't it so? Anyway, Two of
Speaker 3: his most important contributions are he uses a great part
Speaker 3: of his fortune to fund a revolution once he gets involved,
Speaker 3: because he wasn't initially, he wasn't really for it either.
Speaker 3: And secondly, he's instrumental and convincing the decision makers and
Speaker 3: the other commodies to vote for independence.
Speaker 1: And he was the key well, considering his vast wealth
Speaker 1: at the time, he had a vested interest in the
Speaker 1: status quo.
Speaker 3: Absolutely all of the he was quote unquote an aristocrat,
Speaker 3: and he was a businessman. He owned an export shipping
Speaker 3: business with all of the businessmen in the colonies. One
Speaker 3: of their big trading partners was Guests who Great Britain, right, Yes,
Speaker 3: So causing this rift between their business and their biggest
Speaker 3: trading partner was a big issue. And John Hancock knew
Speaker 3: that and he warned the rebels. He said, they will
Speaker 3: give up a lot of stuff, but they won't give
Speaker 3: up their wealth. So we've got to figure out how
Speaker 3: to convince him that this is the best thing.
Speaker 1: And what better guy to do it than a guy
Speaker 1: who again had a very vested interest in the status quo.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's out there doing it as one
Speaker 1: of the wealthier people out there, that's a great sale
Speaker 1: job for a man like John Hancock being in that position.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was. And you know the original intent of
Speaker 3: this rebellion was to get justin fair treatment from from
Speaker 3: Great Britain. That they had no they had nothing in
Speaker 3: mind in regards to creating and establishing a new country.
Speaker 3: It wasn't until seventeen seventy five, roughly in the Second
Speaker 3: Continental Congress that they came at Ben Franklin counseled Adams,
Speaker 3: Adams and Hancock, and he said, so, what do you want?
Speaker 3: And they told him. He said, you know, he said,
Speaker 3: you're never going to get that from Britain. He said,
Speaker 3: but he said, it sounds to me like you want
Speaker 3: to establish a new country. And that's how the fight
Speaker 3: for independence from Britain came to be as opposed to
Speaker 3: a fight for a fair interest treatment.
Speaker 1: Well, you know the other component I learned. I read
Speaker 1: Bill Wiley's a book, Killing the Witches. There's a big
Speaker 1: segment in there on Ben Franklin and his you know,
Speaker 1: young man, his trials and tribulations dealing with the colonies,
Speaker 1: and of course the Puritans, who were well established. Man,
Speaker 1: those folks were really ruthless in terms of the enforcement
Speaker 1: of their religious principles. But then also the Church of England.
Speaker 1: In terms of taxation, citizens and the colonies were forced
Speaker 1: to pay for the Church of England, which really kind
Speaker 1: of irked a lot of people and was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why we do not live in a theocracy.
Speaker 1: These in our country.
Speaker 3: Well, and they were, you know, the Church was a
Speaker 3: state entity in Britain, and there were a lot of
Speaker 3: things that are the colonies, and it was eventual, it
Speaker 3: was eventually the taxation that that Great Britain was forcing
Speaker 3: upon the colonies that caused them to revolt and eventually
Speaker 3: lead to the fight for independence.
Speaker 1: How about that? You think something like that might happen
Speaker 1: these days, considering our outrageous taxation, the fact that our
Speaker 1: rapacious government still spends far beyond what they take in
Speaker 1: in terms of the trillions of dollars. My editorial comment
Speaker 1: not John O'Neill's. John'll be talking about all this tonight.
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Speaker 1: or streaming from home. I wish you all the best
Speaker 1: on your presentation tonight. I'm sure it's going to be fascinating.
Speaker 1: John Hancock. The topic John O'Neill. I appreciate the time
Speaker 1: you spent my listeners and need this and we'll look
Speaker 1: forward to tuning in tonight at seven pm.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian.
Speaker 1: My pleasure, John real pleasure. Stick around, folks, lots to
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