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Speaker 1: Hell, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Keeper's podcast.

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Welcome to a key first review. Welcome. Technically, i'd say

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this is a big review the week, So welcome to

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geek Verse four ninety three. I am the mint armed Tress.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm the paperboy Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are here to review The Black Phone on

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a film that we've been talking about for quite a bit.

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I think probably also we got the first trailer. I

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think the very first time we talked about two is

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maybe on the you know, twenty twenty two preview of

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just like, Okay, Scott Derekson's doing this movie, scary movie.

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There's the plot, there's a cast and career thing. So

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we've been talking about for a while. So it's not

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your big Marvel Star Wars DC, but it's been on

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our radar for a bit, so we're excited. As usual.

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We'll give our non swar slot. So if you're wondering

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should you see this movie? Should you not? You know,

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maybe you're not a horror fan. Maybe you're a fan

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of Scott Derekson's work, maybe you're not. I don't know,

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whatever reason you have under the sun to be like,

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should I go see this, you'll get a portion of

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this as usual to fresh to convince you or let

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you know if this is worth your time or money.

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And then we'll get in just Boys after a break

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tar Field. Where can they find everything we do? Because

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we got the Boys tomorrow, but we got well even then,

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we got After nine coming up this weekend. Nice ten

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am slot, that's our call in show. We got miss Oh,

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we had the originals that just drawn Patreon the exclusive

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ten dollars tire. So what's going on? Where is it

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where we're gonna find us?

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Speaker 3: Yes, ladies, something can find us with your interconnection in

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the search bar. Geek vers not our own base, keik

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first cast our Twitter and geek first on our Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of stuff we have cast daily. We got

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I think there's been two times this week where there

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there's been multiple casts like during the day. So just

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tons of stuff. A big thank you to everyone that's

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been supports. A big thank you to the patrons. You

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guys keep us going. You guys really support this and

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we really appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: I want to shout out two people that have joined recently,

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Martin Schanchez and then another one who I have to

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I haven't had a chance to do this yet, Joshua,

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so I apologize. But on the Patreon producers tier, very

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top tier Ambrier and Aaron Braden, sorry, April of Darkness,

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to that tier of the Patrioton producers. And uh yeah, Joshua,

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if you listening to this, I've already messaged, We've talked

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to you, sent a very nice message and we appreciate,

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uh lejimle. I've said the STiMi that it's nice that

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you know. It's we talk to our patrons and you know,

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some we talk more than others. But everyone that's joined

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when we asked them why they joined, they have just

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very nice things to say, and it's very humbling and

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it's a nice it's just a nice reality check of man.

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It's you know, we have the nicest little sliver, small

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sliver of the internet that's following us. But it's you

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guys all we have kind people. And that's what I

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care more about, is that we have like good people,

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kind hard people, very nice, overly nice people. Sometimes two

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nice people, except for Carl Richie, who's on this little

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terrible person but uh no, so add that there and

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then yeah, if you listen to this, and I'm gonna

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shout out on the newscast. As I've said before, the

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very top tier, the phase four tier, you get to

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pick a movie. So I said to him, I said,

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you know, you can either pick a movie that you

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love and wants to talk about, or you can make

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a movie that you're gonna subject us to want to

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hear our pain, because we've had patrons do both things,

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pick great movies and pick bad movies just to hear

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our response. So Tayfield, I don't know, is this a

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great movie or a bad movie the black phone dripped

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by Scott Dereckson or is it somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 3: I would say, I say it's a pretty good movie

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to be honest, good movie, bad experience.

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Speaker 2: But it's I.

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Speaker 1: Think we'll we'll because layer view. I think we'll save

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both our experiences. We should talk about after night, so

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we should talk about what happened in the theater, and

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we'll also talk about our seating debacle because I was

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convinced something was happening. It was not so TWNE and

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after nine this week, and we'll talk about we had

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a few experiences around the Black Phone. But the film

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pretty good film.

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Speaker 3: You're saying, Yeah, it was a good film, and it

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just it had a again not spoilers. The start was

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really just a great build up to just kind of

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like cement the idea of of what's what's coming up,

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some routines and just kind of like teaching us as

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viewer what to probably expect and what's going to happen here.

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it leads us on this story that you feel like

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emotional and you are like freaked out at like you're

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really hoping like things can kind of get unraveled, and

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you want to see the characters kind of how they're

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going to develop, and it doesn't disappoint on the trajectory

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that they take you on. And even Hawk is absolutely

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just fantastic in this movie, like really really fantastic. And yeah,

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it's just it it ended in a way that like

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I'm glad that I could leave the theater and not

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feel like extremely just down and like shit on myself.

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know what, this is a good watch it was a

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good movie again. I had my wife with me, Madison,

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she didn't see any trailers.

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Speaker 2: So when she watched it again, she felt good about it.

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Speaker 3: So I know she feels good. I know, okay, this

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is it's not like a feel good movie, but.

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Speaker 2: It's it's relatively okay.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say bring the kids too, it's relatively okay.

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I like that whatever review you'd get in a poster,

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relatively okay. Would you recommend this for people.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you want to like, yeah, if you

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want to go out pick a movie, like if I

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had to choose between this and Elvis, and I haven't

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seen Elvis yet, but like I would naturally I'm naturally

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more inclined to go towards this as like, not just

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for podcast reasons, but if I didn't have a geek verse,

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I would naturally go to see this in the theater,

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and I would suggest to other people like, hey, it's

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pretty damn good.

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Speaker 2: In the movie theater, so indulge.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So for myself, like I said, I was interested

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in this one, I can think I'm the same in

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Taylor that I will see Elvis here. I'm a big

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boss Lerman fan. I don't think there'll be a geek

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Verse review. You might hear someone mention it, but I

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don't think you gotta. I don't think that's coming up.

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But my Auntie was like, don't you guys review like

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just every movie that comes out. I'm like, no, you

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like we have a specific audience. Yeah, I've like, no,

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we don't see everything. But so I saw this. I

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was looking very forward to this, and as I've said

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many times, where what interested me was, Okay, Scott Derickson's

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getting back to horror. He's routine with Ethan Hawk. Ethan

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first movie after The Doctor's Strange Debacle, right, and I

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always like to see a movie when that happens. It's

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very similar to Army the Dead was ax snyrs like, oh,

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much like that movie. I like this movie, but I

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feel a little underwhelmed. I think it's a solid movie.

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I think it's a it's a good movie. There's nothing

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actually super wrong with I think it just never gets

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waiting for it to happen. And I will say not

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even just because the trailers, I feel the story is

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kind of it's a little predictable, and then the stuff

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but then there's stuff that's maybe just not explain He

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can't explain everything, but these characters say a lot of things,

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are like, oh, I'm really interested in that, and there's

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a lot of ideas here that I like the concept of.

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where oh I was really really enjoying. I think I

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there's build up, lots of attention, lots of creepy stuff

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going on. Ethan Hawk is just like certain things he's

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saying dialogue wise, you're like, what's gonna happen now? You know?

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black Phone gets introduced, it it feels like what the

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trailer said you out for and then nothing. There's nothing

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to me really surprising. I feel like the supernatural stuff,

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turn of what was gonna happen. And that's not necessarily

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a bad thing, but just not anything I was expecting

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it changes on hit. And I'm not saying every feeling

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big twists or stuff like that and everything. But yeah,

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gonna watch itin I might watch again with em money,

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but I'm not in any rush to see it again.

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asked her if I recommend it. It's tough. If this

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say yes. But right now you have top Gun you

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Speaker 2: Last Year?

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Speaker 1: Light Year? You have what the fuck is the thor

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coming up right now? You got Elvis, which I imagine I'm

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Nathan Hawk, I love them in this, but I still

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want like a little bit more, and that's maybe this

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whole movie. I just want a little bit more. And

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what this episode would have felt like maybe being a

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bit better, is almost like Black Merr or Goosebumps, a

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part of some show where even an hour forty two

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anthology episode. But as a movie, I thought it was

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just it was just good. It was solid. Yeah, No,

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I'm underwhelmed. I probably sound more negative than I am.

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I enjoyed my time with it, but I just went, Okay,

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that was a well made movie. I don't know if

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m hm. And you know Ethan hawks the Graber and

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that's a good thing. And you know, the thing is

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like speaking of the grabber, you know, he's very scary

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villain and whatnot. You know what's gonna be really scary

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because the other thing is like speaking of the grabber.

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I want to be grabbing my manscape. So when I

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go to grab my junk, it's filing smooth. You know,

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you or the other people. You got a man, a woman,

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you know, a day whoever, they may be grabbing your junk,

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grabbing your man parts, your lady parts. You do. You

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don't want to be scary. You want to be a

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good grab And that's why I want to go to

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manscape dot com and use the gv pod code or

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this guy in the basement, he had a lot going on. Uh,

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you don't want a lot going on in your basement,

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for different things. At first, they were just the you know,

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trimmer fear of balls in the area. I got the

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everything like that makes it harder for someone to like,

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Speaker 1: My she knows, she knows she's the grabber. And Taylor's like,

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there's no man scary, would be no grab right, you know.

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next outbreak and then we're gonna get in the spoilers.

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know what I want to mention because I was gonna

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should have because like I could have phrased it in

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a non spoil way. But I think one thing that

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I kind of really bug me. I'm I saying to

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get your opinion on it. So this kid we'll get

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into probably more of the order after. But anyways, he

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gets kidnapped Finny and I damn same thing. Non spoils.

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I'm off my game, ight, I should have said, Ethan Hawk.

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It was great. The two kid actresses were phenomenal, both

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of them, Like they're really good. I hadn't seen them.

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I don't think in anything else. He's good as the victim.

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where they set up the storyline with the father and

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he's an abusive father, and man, what heart brings me.

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It's one of these things like this movie. Definitely as

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a parent, it's like, man, one thing, kids getting abductive

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movies are harder to watch nowadays having three kids then too,

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it's just like I still never can believe we lived

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in a world at one point where parents like thought

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it was right to beat their kids, Like I never

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understood like how this happened for so long. But there's

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a scene where she, you know, the setup is we'll

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talk more about it, is that she's having dreams. She's

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pretty much having visions that's more supernatural side, and he

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doesn't want her to speak out because you know it's

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gonna get the family into trouble. Cops around, and there's

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a belt scene and man, it's brutal to watch. And

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Jeremy Davies, I don't think you've seen anything that plays

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a dad. He's a great actor. I first saw him

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in uh oh, Justified, and ever since then I've been

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a big fan of him. So he's bringing it. But

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then the daughter when she has to like scream back

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and say, my dreams are just dreams, Like it's all

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that stuff, but like she was so good in that scene.

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It was felt like you were watching something that was

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actually happening, like a documentary, so like it was just

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it was so grip. And that's where again the first

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act for me, like it was really heavy and all

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the stuff was going on. But anyway, so we'll return

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to that. He gets kidnapped and he's put down in

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the you know, the great basement, the cement prison, whatever

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it may be. I think. So I love the idea

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we got that in the Choose, the idea of okay,

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this phone for whatever reason. That's maybe part of my

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cons too, that Ethan Hawk's like, oh used to ring

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for me? So like Ethan Hawk, like, I guess am

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I rown? But to me was he hinting at like

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he had experienced the supernatural stuff before as well? Had

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you thought about that or how did you take it?

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Because he talks about like, oh, I used to hear

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that phone ring, but I don't anymore. And then and

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he's like I used to be down here and I

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as a kid, So is this something maybe his dad

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just did tomb or something like I was wondering what

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you took from some of those lines he was dropping

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but almost having a previous experience or was it just

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fucking nuts?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's I mean, he's definitely fucking nuts.

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Speaker 3: There's an interesting backstory here that I'd love to learn

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about with this character because I was he I would

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love to learn about it, or like, did he just

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choose to spend time down there because his brother, I

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mean his brother Max was like seriously fucked up too,

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but like his better Max was more so and like

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the opposite end of that spectrum, Like and that was

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a dynamic that we'll talk about too, which is good.

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But the context of him being down there, I think

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is just he's used to him killing these kids. I

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think he's just created literally a haunted setting where these

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kids are tied to this location, and I think it's

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just paranormal occurrences that are happening. I didn't really suspect

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that the boy was gifted like his sister was. I

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took it as sister was the one experiencing this and

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this is just like this contained element. And maybe I'm

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just biased because of how I kind of like a

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tie in with like paranormal and things things.

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Speaker 2: Like that, But I just saw it as this basement was.

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Speaker 3: A contained paranormal hotspot, yet that's what was going on.

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree. It feels very similar to The

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Shining in a sense where the hotel in itself is

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haunted and like Danny's mom doesn't have the shining, but

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then Danny, you introduce Danny and the Shining because he

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like has that ability, like makes it like bigger and whatnot. Oh,

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obviously she never goes into that basement, but I agree

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that I kind of take it that way, where the

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ghosts are speaking to him at their ghosts. I'm just

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calling that to be easy, and she has her own mindset.

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But and that's where I'm That's when you said, like

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you would love to know that backstory. I don't need

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this phone was a part of some voodoo called them

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like I don't need that. But I guess I just

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wanted I felt I felt with Ethan Hawk's character, I

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was wanting a little bit more, just a few little

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more backstory notes things like that, and I feel like

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we never got there. I think he's very creepy and

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just stuff like, oh, like I don't need to give

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you anything, You're already down here if I want, and

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then he just would in it. I don't know what

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he was saying, but like that's the only thing or

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the great thing about it, which sounds bad, But when

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you're watching it and he's just like, oh, you know,

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get ready for the next step, and he closed the door,

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you don't know what this fucking guy's talking about. You

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don't know if he's gonna kill him, you don't know

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if he's like a pedophile. You really don't know. And

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they don't reveal that. They don't play any up and

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I like that stuff, but when you said, like, oh,

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there's a backstory, I would like to know. That for

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me kind of took the movie down a few notches

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that I feel like I don't need it fully explained,

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but I would like a little bit more. The fact

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that we didn't Is that something that takes away from

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your final score? Or were you fine with you know,

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this element of you got the Grabber and you learn

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just a few things about buddymore just a creepy dude.

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Speaker 3: I think I wouldn't say it's like playing it safe,

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but I think it benefits by keeping us on edge,

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by not knowing all these things about about this character,

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like just the Grabber, that's all we need to know.

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And we just like, why everything that I've I've learned

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now watching horror and serial killers everything like that, where

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I'm at now in my life, I realize, Okay, rituals

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are very important to these characters.

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Speaker 2: And He's like, oh yeah, and I think that.

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Speaker 1: Was the way exactly.

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I really enjoyed this movie was learning the ritual that

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Ethan Hawk is trying is creating here for us to understand.

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And yeah, so having to just clicking with all the

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backstory and stuff, like we didn't need all and depth,

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but like we see, okay, the balloons, he leaves these

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balloons bough behind where he takes a victim and all

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this different stuff and like the mask and just hiding

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and everything like that. It's just the mask thing was

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interesting because I almost felt like it was like a

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Michael Myers kind of vibe, not too like extreame, but

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a different parallel to it, like he just like got

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to keep the mask on sort of thing. He just

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seemed like he was completely weakened or emotional when that

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mask was taken off of him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was interesting. That's where again I'd like

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a little bit more of like if it in his mind,

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if it's some sort of culty thing or in his

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mind some sort of power thing. I don't know, because

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you had multiple masks, and I feel like they would

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almost maybe represent different things because you had you had

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the very first when you saw him, Wills.

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Speaker 3: A two piece one, right he kept he could change

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the mouth out and then the face out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it was the same mask now thinking

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of it, Yeah, because I thought they were like four

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certent masks. But then so you can do that one

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exchange them. But at the very beginning of the movie,

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he had that one where it was just his eyes

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and not his mouth and everything. So it's like, what

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are these masks mean? And stuff like that. Now, So

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and I do like the scene where the mask gets

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ripped off and he's freaking out. It's kind of weakness.

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I think for me that the death of the Grabber

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I was not a fan of kind of overall, for

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how we got there and then the actual result. I

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just didn't buy. Now, of course he's a creepy guy,

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his stuff going on. I just really did not buy that.

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So there's a door, right, and he opens up the

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door and there's the bed, and then there's the rest

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of the thing. To his left, there's like this little

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hall and one of the kids was just the very

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first things. Oh, there's these tiles. You move them apart

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and you can dig. And he says like, I didn't

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have enough time to get further. Now, the kids saying

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I did not have enough time, I think would imply

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that he tried to dig there. Would you agree with that?

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So he tried to dig there, and maybe ethan Hawk

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caught him. So we have this setup of ethan Hawk

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is probably dealt with a kid that tried this already.

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So that's one and two. I just could not buy

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that this kid bought like digs was huge hole and

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all he does is just put a carpet over it,

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and ethan Hawk does not notice at all. And it's

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right by the door, Like when you walk in, you

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look to the left, it's right there. Are you saying,

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as I agreed.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying like there's a few things that ethan Hawk

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didn't notice. Like additionally, the grate that was over the window.

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I think that's a huge thing to just not notice

473
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,000
that it was pulled out.

474
00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:24,599
Speaker 1: And that's to me where I don't my problem was.

475
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,480
I don't think they made it enough like he was

476
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,279
a simpleton and didn't get it. I just felt like

477
00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:33,559
those were just kind of necessities in the movie that

478
00:20:33,559 --> 00:20:35,680
they're just like, oh, well, just like let this this

479
00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:37,240
is gonna happen, and we're not going to really talk

480
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,920
about because I just as far as I know, again,

481
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,079
I'm not saying the grabber seemed to be like some scientist,

482
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,359
smartest guy in the room, but as far as what

483
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,480
we'd see him before, he has this routine and everything

484
00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:50,039
like that, I just did not buy that he would not,

485
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,119
especially because why would he not just be like, why

486
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,319
this kid put a fucking carpet down and it's not

487
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,640
like a little carpet. It's a massive, long, like seven

488
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,759
foot like eight foot seven foot car but wrapped around,

489
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,160
but like it's this big carpet. I agreed with the Great.

490
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,680
It just felt like that didn't actually happen in the movie,

491
00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:09,319
and we just forgot about it, like they edited out

492
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,839
something that would come later. So there's a few things

493
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,319
like that. And again I guess I don't necessarily mind

494
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,279
his death, but I did not like that. Okay, he

495
00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:19,000
did not know the Great was there or the hole

496
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,119
was there, and then when he falls in he like

497
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,359
breaks his leg and I liked the mask, but probably

498
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,599
thought everything was like there was just like thirty seconds

499
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,279
of the kid to punch him, and Hawk would try

500
00:21:29,279 --> 00:21:30,960
to grab him, the kid to punch him, and he tried.

501
00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,279
It was just like the same scene like over and

502
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,440
over and there just there wasn't much too it and

503
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,519
the dog didn't really feel like it was much of

504
00:21:37,559 --> 00:21:39,880
a purple like in the theaters. It was an oh

505
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,920
shit moment when he brought down the dogs, like, oh fuck,

506
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,359
what's gonna happen? But the dog was pretty like it's

507
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,279
just there, easily dispatched with his steak and stuff, and

508
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,240
then he chokes. He kills him, I'll presume with the phone.

509
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,000
So I think for me that's where it kind of hurts,

510
00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:58,319
where the ending was a little anti climactic, and there

511
00:21:58,319 --> 00:21:59,920
was stuff that I thought was gonna pay off. I

512
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,599
thought he was going to kind of say like, no,

513
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,200
I know you've been able to doing over there, because

514
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,839
there's a few times in the movies where it felt like,

515
00:22:06,519 --> 00:22:09,640
you know, Finn was trying. It was Finn, Yeah, Finn,

516
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,039
he was his name, but that he said go by Finn.

517
00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:13,119
He was trying to do something, but then ethan Hawk

518
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,319
would catch it. But then these super really obvious things

519
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,000
that Finn was doing, ethan Hawk would not catch, and

520
00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:22,880
he just I don't know, I feel very mixed about that.

521
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,119
Maybe i'd feel different on a rewatch, but I really

522
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,440
don't think, like you mentioned the great and the Hole,

523
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,599
I would feel much different because it was those were

524
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,920
glaring omissions to me.

525
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 3: I would attribute it to again, the ritual. Things are

526
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,720
not going how he was hoping. He's distracted his brother's upstairs.

527
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,400
Things are just really not working out well. And so

528
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,519
every minute that he gets when he can kind of

529
00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:46,960
like just focus, he's got tunnel vision, and that tunnel

530
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,680
vision is spent by him just observing the boy, and

531
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,880
then he's busy dealing with shit. So I think that

532
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,039
that is kind of compromising it. And it's a very

533
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,480
loose argument at the end of the.

534
00:22:56,519 --> 00:22:59,559
Speaker 1: Day, because he's been doing that whole for days. It's

535
00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:01,960
not like, hey, I got one day I'm gonna dig

536
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,079
this hole into the cart. But there's been at least

537
00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:06,200
a couple of nights where he's been digging this hole,

538
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,119
so ethan Hawk has had time to.

539
00:23:08,279 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: Like even that play get like a day. I thought

540
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,960
it was like pretty quick.

541
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:14,599
Speaker 1: I feel like it's at least too because that kid

542
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,680
sleeps a couple of times. That's why I I guess

543
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,160
that's all you would do there is sleep. But I

544
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,119
feel like at least a couple of times. And I

545
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240
wonder what to me, the phone felt like every day

546
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:24,960
he got like a new phone call. And he got

547
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,319
like three or four phone calls. So I'm saying at

548
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,079
least two to three days, that's what I think it.

549
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:31,240
Even when they throw that plate of food, like it

550
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,359
goes in the direction of that rug, and I just

551
00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,200
I saw it was gonna come up, but no, he

552
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,920
just like he home aloned him. You know, if I

553
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,119
got flashbacks to Cano where it was just like, Okay,

554
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,160
this is like Villain's gotta home. The loan is a

555
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,319
big thing recently. And I remember the other trailer we

556
00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,799
got to we talk about in the vehicle Don't worry Darling.

557
00:23:49,839 --> 00:23:52,599
That's the other one we got. Yes, yes, you can't

558
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,759
wait for September in that movie. But yeah, it's I

559
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,720
liked everything there, and I think the you kind of

560
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,079
got the idea of Okay, these people are gonna phone

561
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,279
teach him something and that that was kind of the plot,

562
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,039
you know, like he just keeps getting taught stuff. He

563
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,279
escapes once Ethan Hawk. I love he just pulls then

564
00:24:12,559 --> 00:24:14,480
kill you say anything like that was great, like he

565
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:18,279
almost got out. But again I felt like by the

566
00:24:18,319 --> 00:24:20,079
middle of the film, I had a firm grass of

567
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,720
where we were gonna go, you know, the brother thing,

568
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:24,839
which it was strange that they introduced his brother who

569
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,599
he plays. I'm not sure if you remember. He's the

570
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:30,359
deputy and Sinister, so he's using the heat teams with

571
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,480
Ethan Hawk, so it's kind of fun their brothers. The

572
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,880
next time you watch Sinister, look out for that. So

573
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,039
I like that Scott Derek Son and him are back together.

574
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,720
They did this shot where the brother's like doing the

575
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,799
cops coming there, he's doing cocaine, and then they do

576
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,720
this like pan down through the basement and at first

577
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,680
I was like, are they trying to just do a

578
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,160
cool shot and it seems like they're insinuating that he's

579
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,680
in the actual house, but it's like, no, he's in

580
00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,960
the actual house. He's in, which was kind of strange.

581
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,720
And again that was as bike. I liked the idea enough,

582
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:02,559
but it was just strange to throw in this. His

583
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,599
brother is doing coke, he's not working, he's trying to

584
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,480
figure out this mystery. He figures it out, he gets

585
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,640
killed right away. I really it was I don't know,

586
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:14,559
I don't know how to feel. Oh, the whole thing,

587
00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,759
it wasn't bad, but it's just I wish even the

588
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:20,519
amount of time we got with the Max character was fine,

589
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,400
But I wish it was just another way, whether it's

590
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,680
more with Ethan Hawk or more than the other stuff.

591
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,240
But I've been rambling for a bit, So what do

592
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,480
you think about some of the stuff you got? The location,

593
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,559
you got, the brother, you got, some of the reveals

594
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:32,039
of the two houses and stuff like that.

595
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,759
Speaker 3: Like it's a classic cliche to'd be like have two scenes,

596
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:40,160
one where there's an escalated conflict and then the rescuers

597
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,839
coming in, and you think the rescuers are in the

598
00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:45,279
house and they're not, And I thought, well, they're alluding

599
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,720
to that. But at the same time, the whole thing

600
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:52,240
with the brother made me kind of disregard that cliche

601
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,279
because when he was looking at the map and seeing

602
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:57,160
the houses, I thought, oh, like, holy shit, okay, this

603
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,240
is actually it. Like the cops are actually really really

604
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,920
here it up so so well. But no, it was

605
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920
in the larger scale of things, it makes sense. The

606
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,920
bodies here, the ghosts, they appeared for the sister, and

607
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:17,359
this was their part of their resolution, like abdication, Like

608
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,039
you're just their their peace.

609
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: I guess.

610
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: So I like that it made sense. And yeah, the

611
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:27,039
brother whole dynamic. At first, like I didn't. I didn't

612
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,160
understand it when they were knocking on the door and

613
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,839
they were just setting that up, and I thought it

614
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,599
was odd how they introduced it. But I thought, Okay, no,

615
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,519
he's like super fixated on the case, and like, I know,

616
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960
I know people that. I mean, they're not doing coke

617
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:44,440
off the table, but you know, between jobs. I know,

618
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,920
you're in between jobs and you get fixated on something,

619
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,359
and this is just that it's a good representation of him.

620
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,440
I like seeing him just like deep diving into this case.

621
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,079
And then it kind of I liked that it wasn't

622
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,119
just blatantly on your face.

623
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,599
Speaker 2: It was just these subtleties like clean.

624
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:03,039
Speaker 1: The dog gave it away from something.

625
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 3: The dog was definitely like the confirmation. I thought, like, oh,

626
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:08,079
this is interesting. Yeah, you retrospect, like, yeah, there's an

627
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,519
unexpected guess you're like, I like that. I thought, oh

628
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:13,440
this is really cool because yeah, you're staying at your

629
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,599
brothers trying to crack this case, and like, holy shit,

630
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,640
the brother is the killer.

631
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: Like it's absolutely bonkers.

632
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,039
Speaker 3: And uh him just doing a line of coke and

633
00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:25,039
then going downstairs the worst fucking time. This guy is

634
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,000
fucking high off of his Oh man, he's like not

635
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:28,440
even wore.

636
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: He's not home, he's at work.

637
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the first thought is not even to like

638
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,119
save this kid. You want to know how I figured

639
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,960
it out. This kid's like no, for fox sakes, he has.

640
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:41,759
Speaker 1: The phone, he is all ready to go and stuff

641
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:44,000
like that. So yeah, I liked it enough. It was

642
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:47,240
fun to get there. But again, I don't know it

643
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,359
worked it out for me. But I wonder if there's

644
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:52,960
either I would be I wouldn't be missing it if

645
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,440
most of it was cut or was time spent somewhere else.

646
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,000
But it was a fun little okay like kind of

647
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,119
mini mystery. But again because the dog, the dog doesn't

648
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,720
use it as a reveal. It's just at one point

649
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,079
you see him with the dog, and later on when

650
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,079
Nathan hawks down the basement, you just hear a dog

651
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,000
in the background, so that for me was like, Okay,

652
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,680
clearly they're around. And then they save to be the

653
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720
big twist later on in a sense, and uh, yeah,

654
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:18,680
his brother I just love, like you look what you

655
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:20,200
made me do. And then he killed his brother. He's

656
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,559
like he's a dummy, but he's my dummy. And again, yeah,

657
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:24,119
I said this when we got the trains that I

658
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,920
like the masks, but in the even little scene that

659
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,759
he got of him like abducting the kid, I many

660
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:31,640
times actually just wish the mask was off because I

661
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,680
just want to see his face acting because he was

662
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,079
just killing an Ethan hawk. But yeah, where do you

663
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:37,920
want to go next year?

664
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: When we talk about uh, I guess this can kind

665
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,079
of segue to it, but I guess the phone calls

666
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:50,440
like primarily I'll hone in on when you can tell

667
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,680
the door wasn't locked, and then Finn is thinking of

668
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:55,920
going up and then the phone rings like don't go

669
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,559
up there, like and I thought, like it just freaked

670
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,000
me out. And then seeing this seeing again because even

671
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,759
does this multiple times and he's just sitting up there

672
00:29:03,799 --> 00:29:07,680
and he's just like he's got the belt, and like, fuck,

673
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:10,079
that's just terrifying, really terrifying.

674
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, he's just waiting for excuse too, because

675
00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:14,880
he said, if you behave I'm not gonna do anything.

676
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,119
And that's what the kids say, like, hey, don't do

677
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,680
this or he's gonna hurt you. And that's the thing

678
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,440
where Okay, they're giving advice for how to like maybe

679
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,160
get at it, but also just things not to do

680
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:26,279
and stuff like that. And I actually loved everything about

681
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:28,680
those phone calls of they were like forgetting their names,

682
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,279
they didn't really understand it. It felt like when people, if

683
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,000
you believe in the stuff, talk about spirits when they're

684
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,200
kind of caught in between, you know, the life and

685
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680
afterlife and there don't really know why they're here or

686
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,960
where they are and stuff like that. That's where it

687
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,920
felt like they had flashes of who they were before,

688
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:47,000
but not the whole story. And I really liked that. Man,

689
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:49,720
I didn't jump it in by the theater completely jumped in.

690
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:51,960
There's that one phone call. It's a great camera trick

691
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,160
where he's on the phone, he's talking and this point

692
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,279
you think Ethan Hawk is gonna come back because they

693
00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:58,599
keep just they get they had the room cut off

694
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,519
and it's Finny with the phone and you just know

695
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,759
something's behind him. But then they pan around him and

696
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:05,519
you're expecting ethan hawk, but it's like one of the

697
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:07,559
kid's dead. And what I appreciate it wasn't even like

698
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:09,920
a big like sound there's some scared meters, but it

699
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240
was like a Barty jump scared. It was just scary

700
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,640
because this fucking dead looking kid came out of nowhere.

701
00:30:15,119 --> 00:30:17,759
It worked for me, but I saw so many people

702
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:20,160
actually jump in my theater. It was quite good. So

703
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,799
I love that where there's like really good camera work.

704
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,799
Trick I loved, Like I said, I like the shot

705
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,240
enough of him doing coked. But one shot I really

706
00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,279
liked was they had this moment where there's a bunch

707
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,839
of bullies after in the first act. They're after our

708
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:35,960
main character here, but Robin, who's like the kick ass

709
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:38,720
guy who beats up the bigger bull and he just knows,

710
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,480
he knows everything. He's a badass. He tells these three

711
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:43,880
kids like, hey, you ever messed within, you know you're

712
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,440
gonna have a problem, and they don't want you because

713
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,799
this kid around school's fear right. He goes missing, he

714
00:30:47,839 --> 00:30:51,160
gets killed unfortunately, And I love this shot where I

715
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,000
cause I sing in my mind and it'd been about

716
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960
five or ten minutes. I'm like, man, if they don't

717
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,359
touch back to this bully thing, it's kind of misopportunity

718
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,279
because like they set this up and that's kind of

719
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:01,000
you know, they do that Tiens this movie and say, oh,

720
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:02,440
I set this up and they're not really gonna pay

721
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,599
it off. And I love the shot. It's just like

722
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,000
a shot of the missing poster of Robin and then

723
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:09,160
it pans over to like the alleyway and in that

724
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,359
same ayeway, the kids are chasing him down starting to

725
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:13,599
beat on him. So I feel like Scott Derekson. He

726
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,039
also brings up a lot of the like sinister filter

727
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:18,599
of like the when they are chowed. And this is

728
00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:20,240
what I liked about this is where it was as

729
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,759
a parent when they talk about a kid missing, they

730
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,440
would they shot all this stuff with like a kid

731
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,640
maybe being like a Todther and then growing up a

732
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,079
little and you're and I think that helps because not

733
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,519
only are seeing these kids missing, you're seeing like them

734
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:34,480
grow up and now they're dead, and it's like it

735
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:37,279
makes it that much more sadder and depressing. But he

736
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680
used that same filter of like the home videos for

737
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,400
a sinister. He did that again with that, so him

738
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,960
and the crew of the team. I love a lot

739
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,400
of the shots and the film camera working here for

740
00:31:47,599 --> 00:31:49,519
what they did with multiple stories. But yeah, all this

741
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:52,319
stuff with the kids on the phone. Really really enjoyed it.

742
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:54,759
Speaker 3: You mentioned that fight. Seeing the alleyway, I just wanted

743
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,559
to like shout out to the sister. She's a fucking powerhouse.

744
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:57,839
Speaker 1: I know.

745
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,559
Speaker 2: God Damn rock to.

746
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:04,319
Speaker 3: The Head got a gushat Yeah, oh there.

747
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,039
Speaker 1: Was something, And I like that she seemed to just

748
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,079
be a nice little girl and then she slowly is

749
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:11,240
just like potty mouth and just like she says fucking Jesus,

750
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:15,039
fuck you, you ugly cocksucker, fartface or whatever. She's like all

751
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,400
of these like swears. She's sounds like deb from Dexter.

752
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,119
But yeah, man, when she got in there, she was

753
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,559
kicking ass and everything. And I really liked the dynamic

754
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:24,880
between the brothers and sister that not at any point

755
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,519
there was like some minor like hey, don't say that stuffing.

756
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:31,039
But I like that he gets kidnapped after the first act.

757
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:32,680
There's not much time, but I like that they just

758
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,480
had a loving relationship there was no tension. It wasn't

759
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,960
like they got in a fight in the last thing

760
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,759
they said to each other was bad obviously too, Like

761
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,440
I like that after, you know, I don't like the

762
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,839
scene in the sense of what's happening, but how it's

763
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,000
form and acted. When the dad abuses the girl that

764
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:50,160
he's comforting her. So I really like that they their

765
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,279
mom has passed away and they insinuated I can't remember.

766
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,720
They insinuay her flyouts say that she took her own life.

767
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,839
They said that she took her own life. She yeah,

768
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,079
So they've lost her mother, their dad, who they kind

769
00:33:02,119 --> 00:33:03,720
of redeem at the end a little bit or just

770
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,680
trying to say, like he apologized, realized all he's he's

771
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,559
an alcoholic, he's abusive. So I really liked that they

772
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:12,960
were just every day leaning on one another because that's

773
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,039
all they had. Even though they had some father figure

774
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,599
to pay their bills stuff, they didn't really have him.

775
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680
So I really liked the dynamic between the brother and

776
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,880
sisters thout the whole movie.

777
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,079
Speaker 2: M H, yeah, I did too.

778
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,519
Speaker 3: I liked uh again, they touched upon it too when

779
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:27,759
his his love interests, I guess is like, oh, I

780
00:33:27,759 --> 00:33:30,119
wish I had that kind of like relationship with my

781
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:32,079
brother and stuff like that. But no, it was it

782
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:35,920
was awesome, and I liked that she was this this

783
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,759
psychic and she had this ability, and I like that

784
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,039
it was kind of playing off of what the mother

785
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,559
could do too, and just it it again added more

786
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:45,920
dynamic to the dad and why the dad was just

787
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:49,400
super unstable, and just the whole scene again him beating.

788
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: Her, which just so rough. Oh my god.

789
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dreams are just dreams like christ Yeah, her

790
00:33:57,799 --> 00:33:59,920
her coming around with the dad and having that moment

791
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,039
they were starting to drive around together like to look

792
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:04,160
like I really like that.

793
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: It was just there was a.

794
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: Lot of good development in these characters, and the child

795
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,800
actors and actresses just really sold it. A thing with

796
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:17,039
the phone stuff, I'll say this. I'll say this quick

797
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:18,760
little part. I won't say it after nine because not

798
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,599
everyone will have seen it, but people in front of

799
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,880
us when the phone kept ringing the one kid, it

800
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,480
was like, oh this phone, shit's getting old real fast.

801
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,199
Speaker 1: For the point in the movie, oh black phone. Yeah,

802
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,119
these kids are stating his phone because apparently without this phone,

803
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,320
I don't think you would have made it.

804
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,679
Speaker 2: You know, they came exactly.

805
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: So the one thing that really got me with the

806
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,000
kids coming up back as ghosts. I know they showed

807
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:48,960
the trailer, but I completely forgot it was and he

808
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,119
was just shining the flashlight and the fucking hanging upside

809
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:54,639
down backwards scene like it wasn't even a scare jump,

810
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,719
but just maybe just like like crunching my sea a

811
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,920
little bit, and it like lifted its hand up and

812
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,800
pointed like it's just it was.

813
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: Very freakishly shot and terrifying.

814
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, these kids are dead and it's just seeing them

815
00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:09,519
like this is really freaky.

816
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, some some stuff there. So let's take another

817
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,280
ad break and we'll keep breaking down those film so

818
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320
we'll be right back and we're back. So where do

819
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,800
you want to go next day? What's something you haven't

820
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,440
touched upon on that you want to shout out?

821
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 3: Uh, the escape, I'd say, yeah, when he manages to

822
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,480
get that combo from the boy on the phone, paper boy,

823
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,039
absolutely traumatizing because you know, well, I guess you can't say.

824
00:35:36,039 --> 00:35:38,119
You know, I felt like something was going to happen here,

825
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,960
but I thought like, oh he is actually getting out,

826
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,199
this is crazy, and yeah, sure enough he sneaks out

827
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,039
when Ethan Hawk is napping and was baiting him.

828
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: For like naughty play again or whatever.

829
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,199
Speaker 3: So he sneaks out and as he's running, I feel

830
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,280
like all the adrenalines running through his mind, so I

831
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,360
can understand why this would have backfired like it did.

832
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,239
Like watching it, I can formulate a play and I

833
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,199
was thinking, like, God, you should like go into her

834
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,440
car or something. I just get out of visual sight

835
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:06,639
from him and then he'll panic and he won't know

836
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:08,679
what to do and he probably won't find you.

837
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: So uh he gets caught.

838
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 3: The dog barks and so Ethan Hawk like wakes up

839
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,039
and like charges at him. And Vinny Phinny is running

840
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:21,960
down the street and Ethano gets in his van raises

841
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,840
off towards him. He's screaming and he gets caught and

842
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,159
Ethan Hok grabs him, pulls a knife up, and just

843
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,639
the things he says, like, man, this is Ethan Hawk

844
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,320
like terrifying, like I will got you like a fucking pig.

845
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,039
I will pull your intestines out and strangle you with them,

846
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:42,039
like holy shit. And the lights of the neighbors turn on,

847
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480
not just one, but two neighbors. They heard screaming, they

848
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:48,679
heard grab it like they're obviously heard some commotion. Did

849
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:51,480
they fucking look out their windows? No, they turned the

850
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:53,719
fucking porch light on, and what they just stand in

851
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,679
their house like this, like, wit, here's something outside?

852
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,559
Speaker 2: What is that?

853
00:36:58,159 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: They're like looking for a hole.

854
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, apparently.

855
00:37:01,519 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: Adults can't see shit in this movie.

856
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: No, apparently not. They should have fucking opened you know,

857
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,920
I'd open my door.

858
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,079
Speaker 1: I'd poke my head and be like.

859
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: Oh, there's a fucking black van right there. That's a

860
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:15,719
little suspicious, Like god, damn. Like even like they they

861
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,400
were useless, And even then I just felt like the

862
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
cops were useless for the most part. Like if this

863
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,239
is like a sing this this guy is a very

864
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,320
significant threat. These kids are being picked up. I feel

865
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,119
like you could easy, you could map this out better.

866
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,519
You could set up like police checkpoints around the school

867
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:36,320
that he's been targeting, like, for fox sakes, set up

868
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:36,880
a plan.

869
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: Yes, but it was also like nineteen seventy eight in

870
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,400
the story right where you know, they were a little

871
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,199
less equipped back in the days, Like they weren't. They've

872
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,360
not been through this shit like some other people haven't.

873
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,000
They kind of Okay, this is what we should be doing.

874
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,440
But yeah, they were just kind of led by the

875
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,159
girl the whole time, you know, like they were just like,

876
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:57,559
without her, they would not have broken this case at all.

877
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:00,599
It's not anything like I guess, guess what you could

878
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:03,000
argue is Okay. So they go to the brother Max

879
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,840
and they talk to him, and because the sister has

880
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,480
a dream Gwen actually, by the way, Gwenny was her name.

881
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,519
But when they have a dream about the place, the

882
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:15,639
cops think okay again, they keep questioning her because she

883
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320
talked to someone's some of the school and the words

884
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,480
spread that she had this dream about a balloon, black balloons,

885
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,480
and because one of the kids she had dream about

886
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:25,639
one of the missing kids in black balloons, and the cops

887
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:27,800
that are down and they're like, hey, we didn't release

888
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,119
any of that info to anybody, so how'd you get that?

889
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:34,519
And you know there's black balloons at two case or

890
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:36,880
two crime scenes so far, Like how did you get that?

891
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:41,000
I love that her little kind of angry ramp there

892
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,679
about like what do you think on the fucking grab her?

893
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,159
Look at me like, I'm twelve year old? You think

894
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:46,880
I'm grabbing people? Like it was just so good, but

895
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,880
so I guess I can kind of buy that, okay,

896
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,639
because the cops were at Maxim's place and then she

897
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:54,519
had a dream. That's why they would believe her because

898
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:57,079
she's mentioned this before. But again, it just felt like

899
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:59,159
at the end they're getting all this credit and everything.

900
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,480
They oh yeah, you know, they cracked the case, they

901
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,159
broke it, but it's like, no, they did nothing, Like

902
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:05,320
they really did nothing. She called the cops, said where

903
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,760
they were, and they didn't even take out ethan Hawk,

904
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,320
like they just found the aftermath of it all. Like

905
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,679
the sister and the brother maybe could have you know,

906
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:18,480
dealt with this before, like by themselves, like they would

907
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:21,480
have because uh, Finn got out of there like he

908
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:23,360
like they didn't even need the cost like he would

909
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,960
have Winn and just told like, oh so of course

910
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,800
the people from black Phone and stuff, I'm just saying

911
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,480
from the actual adults, but uh yeah, you know, it

912
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,079
is what it is. I did like that scene though,

913
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:34,400
again kind of trying to turn the father around when

914
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,280
they had that conversation about the mom and he just

915
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,000
didn't want to believe. He didn't want her to listen

916
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:41,000
to her dreams. But then she did drive her around

917
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,239
like look and you know, whether it was desperation from

918
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,280
his son or him trying to believe a little bit.

919
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:49,199
I did appreciate that of them trying to, like I said,

920
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,599
redeem him a little bit, him realizing he's been doing

921
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,880
some bad shit, you know. So definitely, yeah, anything else

922
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,880
in particular, there's no really big kills in here because

923
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,840
and the kids are killed off screen, so it's not

924
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,159
like Sinistory he had, like those tapes and stuff. I'm

925
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:07,719
trying to think. Yeah, like you said, yeah, your little

926
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,719
love interest there, which was I thought it was gonna

927
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,920
be over because he has that baseball game and she's interested.

928
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,280
But the second he lets that home run happen, she

929
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,039
turned and was out of there. You know, it looked

930
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,239
like she had no interest in It was a different girl, right,

931
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,800
or wasn't it was the same girl?

932
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: It was it the same girl.

933
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of girls that are white brunette and

934
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,079
have like the same like pushed back hair and like

935
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,559
fake tails and stuff like that, So maybe it was

936
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:30,159
a different girl. I thought it was the same, but

937
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,199
I can't recall.

938
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:35,519
Speaker 3: You see, the only other things I could think of

939
00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,880
the touch upon are just him harnessing and acquiring all

940
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,079
these different tools to escape and such, and I like that,

941
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,239
like everything was a specific reason that getting into the

942
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,119
freezer wasn't necessarily to escape through the freezer was to

943
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:49,119
get the meat to give to.

944
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: The dog to get out.

945
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,159
Speaker 3: It felt like a video game sort of just yea

946
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,599
a survivalist game, and I kind of liked that component

947
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,039
and him getting the Yeah, the cord wasn't to climb

948
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,119
out through the windows to pull the great down, so

949
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,920
we could use that in the hole to create that

950
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,880
like that ramp, and like everything about it was just great.

951
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Like I personally wouldn't have filled the phone with dirt use.

952
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: I guess it makes a pretty good weapon, like a

953
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,480
one handed weapon, which is what you want. I think

954
00:41:16,519 --> 00:41:19,559
the bathroom toilet seat like cover would have been better.

955
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,039
Speaker 2: Just like more obviously, plus like he high behind a

956
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:24,599
door and like just smack him over the head.

957
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:26,679
Speaker 1: I guess it would be too heavy for that kid though, right,

958
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:27,840
you got to think about No.

959
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,519
Speaker 3: He smashed through that cement well pretty good. He was

960
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,159
definitely like he was he was ready for it.

961
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe toilets it's a pretty heavy though, you know

962
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,960
they can't swing that right well, And I guess too,

963
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:41,239
like the phone. It's very small, so the good thing

964
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,199
it's not just heavy but like hard for maybe the

965
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,320
grab or to grab you know, that's his gimmick and stuff.

966
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,679
But I also thought like flushing that much dirt and

967
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,199
sand down the toilet was very risky, you know, because

968
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:53,679
I thought.

969
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:54,639
Speaker 2: That was the risk of a clog.

970
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,159
Speaker 1: For sure, a clog could happen, But again I would

971
00:41:57,199 --> 00:41:59,599
like to I don't have to know and see it.

972
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,000
But when they kids that, I tried to like, what

973
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:04,519
happened to that dirt? Did it? Did it? Was it

974
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,679
a pile? But he also flushed it? Did the grabber

975
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,679
have to refill it? And the grabber knew that again,

976
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,840
why was he not watching? Like? That's why I wish

977
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,480
they didn't add that line because again, to me, they're

978
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,480
insinuating that a kid tried this. I feel like the

979
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,159
growdard would be watching out for this. So I really

980
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:19,199
don't know what happened with that kid last time with

981
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,880
the watching up.

982
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: I probably didn't suspect it because like he would have

983
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,079
put new flooring in there, so he probably just thought like, yeah, again,

984
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:27,960
why would a kid try like the same thing?

985
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 2: Probably really unlikely, And again he.

986
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: Was loosely compromised with his brother and stuff like that.

987
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,760
That whole whole scene just like baiting him to like

988
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,280
trip him with the cord and then he goes into

989
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,880
the hole and I wasn't expecting the grate to be

990
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,480
down there, and it just like snaps his ankle to

991
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:44,880
the slide.

992
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: Fuck. That was such a good like bait trap.

993
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,599
Speaker 1: Oh man, did you like the uh the Arnold eighties

994
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:53,880
line when he choking with the phone and starts the

995
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,079
ring he puts up against his ears like it's for you,

996
00:42:56,159 --> 00:43:00,280
and then all the kids started like stick around, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

997
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
you'll find But like know, I did like all the

998
00:43:03,079 --> 00:43:05,199
kids talking. I thought that was kind of a little

999
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,039
cheese there. But again, that just makes me think of

1000
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000
I am very curious and I'd love to read some

1001
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:12,239
interviews after like him saying, oh yeah, I used to

1002
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,719
hear things from that phone, so it's just like like

1003
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,320
he hears it again now, you know, like obviously this

1004
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,519
is the same like transferring probably into like a hell

1005
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,880
or something like that, because these souls are almost taking

1006
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,960
his soul. But again, if he used to hear it

1007
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,119
and he's hearing it now, I'd love to know the

1008
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:32,719
correlation between those two. You know, yeah, definitely, I think

1009
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,079
I've showed out everything I have because that's what it's.

1010
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:37,519
It's funny because we're not even at the hour mark,

1011
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,639
but I feel like that's where the movie that I

1012
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:42,440
said is still good. But I guess I was still

1013
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,079
expecting a little I was expecting just like maybe one

1014
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,760
more thing to really kind of take us to a

1015
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,000
different routes. The same thing with Sinister, Like one of

1016
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,400
my favorite things spoils for Sinister, But is that thing

1017
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400
when they start to reveal like, oh, it doesn't matter

1018
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,159
if you move, like it's gonna fall you. And there's

1019
00:43:57,159 --> 00:43:59,440
like that last third act where it's like, oh shit,

1020
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,880
like everything. I'm not saying I need exactly that, but

1021
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:04,039
I was just I thought something more would kind of

1022
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,639
happen where it's not one of these where, oh you've

1023
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:08,519
seen the trailer, you've seen the movie, but I think

1024
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:11,000
the movie falls pretty close like what the trailer showed

1025
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:14,519
up kidding it gets kidnapped by creepy dude who can

1026
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,880
act really well. These kids give him a lesson, and

1027
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,639
he's gonna use these lessons to take down the guy,

1028
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:20,000
and that's pretty much it. You know, there's a few

1029
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,639
little wrinkles here and there, like the Sister with the

1030
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,800
dreams and stuff, but it's it's pretty straightforward once you

1031
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,519
know the movie, you know.

1032
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:33,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, like in retrospect, it is certainly a streamlined

1033
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,480
kind of film where it's not it doesn't really have

1034
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,960
like that big and kind of like blow you away

1035
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,159
kind of moment, but it just has this adventure that

1036
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:43,519
you're going on and this.

1037
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,159
Speaker 2: Developing story with these characters. And that was good enough

1038
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:48,400
for me.

1039
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: Again, I wasn't sure what I was really going to

1040
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,920
be in store for aside from just this boy he's

1041
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,000
gonna get kidnapped, He's gonna be doing some tinkering around

1042
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,159
with some paranormal things, and it just threw in a

1043
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,599
whole bunch of other components that I really enjoyed, and

1044
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:03,239
I think it stacked well and made a good movie.

1045
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: Sandwich.

1046
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: I did think it was kind of I don't want

1047
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,880
to say humorous, but he just walks out and he

1048
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,000
sees all the cops the house across the street at

1049
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:13,119
the end, like, you know, fuck, you're at the wrong house.

1050
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: What do you do?

1051
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,679
Speaker 1: No, I know, they wouldn't have never saved him. They're

1052
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,360
just like, oh, you must have killed him somewhere else

1053
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,400
and they're already like setting up shop just to look

1054
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,000
into this thing.

1055
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I don't even know what you do as

1056
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,480
a cop. They did the right thing, but like they're

1057
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,960
just coming out of the house that they're right, Like,

1058
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,679
holy fuck, it's a missing boy.

1059
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 2: In that house.

1060
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Like I thank god we had no fuck I look next,

1061
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:34,039
we're so lost. Yeah, have another dream woman come on,

1062
00:45:34,199 --> 00:45:36,800
like we need your info and stuff like that. Well,

1063
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,760
what I would ask you, because you liked it a

1064
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,519
bit more than me, Like I said, I think if

1065
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:42,400
Emily wants to see this one comes to yod I

1066
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,800
watch again after that, I don't know when I think

1067
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,639
it'd be a pretty well you know again you saw

1068
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,960
it with Mads and so do you think, like when

1069
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,159
do you think would you watch this me again? If so, Like,

1070
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:55,079
what do you think the timeframe is on it for you?

1071
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm not in a rush to visit it. If

1072
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,719
I if I were to rewatch it, it would only

1073
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,639
be based on my interest of spotting things that I

1074
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,960
know I missed this first time, because I feel like

1075
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,599
there's a lot of subtleties in the background that I overlooked.

1076
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:16,800
So that me said, I'm in no rush.

1077
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: But I definitely want you put on Halloween like it's.

1078
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: On myself, you know, yeah, because I definitely associate Ethan

1079
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,480
Hawk with being up there with one of these like

1080
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:26,800
crazy killers. He's definitely not like a killer icon like

1081
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,599
a Jason Voorhe's no Kruger, but he's definitely up there.

1082
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:33,199
It's like one of these icons or like new iconic

1083
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,559
kind of like villains.

1084
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: But I won't go that far.

1085
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:40,599
Speaker 2: I think he's not like a legend, but no, I know,

1086
00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:41,079
I know, I.

1087
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: Just don't think he'll have to sit like even the

1088
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,440
way like Bagool had the staying power, like yeah, maybe

1089
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:48,840
quick because like the basket and his performance is great,

1090
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,760
his performance fantastic, but him also being presumably dead kind

1091
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,880
of you know, takes it all.

1092
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: Do the don't breathe narrative.

1093
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: We'll get the sequel that body becomes a hero.

1094
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:08,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I think, uh, i'd probably I'm

1095
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,400
no rush to see it. I probably would see it again,

1096
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,079
maybe in like a year, a couple of years, So

1097
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:14,639
I want to revisit it and just put on like

1098
00:47:14,639 --> 00:47:17,119
a spooky movie. I know chances are I'll be at home.

1099
00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:19,199
Would be in the evening, I'll see it on Netflix, like,

1100
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,360
oh you know what, let's pop it on vod why not.

1101
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,599
But I'm I'm not gonna see it again in theaters

1102
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:25,599
and I'm in no rush to see it again immediately

1103
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:27,480
as it drops on streaming services.

1104
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's one of those that it's kind of

1105
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,519
unfortunate where I'm not sure what it'll be. Like I'm

1106
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:35,199
sure maybe in the villain Spotty would get in there,

1107
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,719
maybe the kids, but there's been so many performances. It's

1108
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,480
one that I thought was gonna maybe play more when

1109
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,400
we get to Golden Geeks next year. And it's kind

1110
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,320
of like I don't think I would fight for much

1111
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,320
of it, Like even even Hawk, he's great, but if

1112
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,119
there's a few other villains that would be better than

1113
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,480
I could easily like place him, And not because the

1114
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:54,199
performance is bad, just because like more lack of screen time,

1115
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,000
because like I still want a little bit more. So

1116
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,880
I just kind of thought would be a super hit

1117
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,199
there and everything like that. But uh, you know, my

1118
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,239
final thoughts of kinda give them overall that it was.

1119
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,599
It was a good, solid movie. Like I said, I

1120
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,199
think I sud more down on it, but it's just

1121
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,840
maybe because I thought it was like I was referring

1122
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,119
to Golden Geeks. When we heard about the plot and

1123
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,239
we saw the trailer, I thought was gonna be one

1124
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,239
of those like Man and I love Sinnis or Sinister

1125
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,239
is one of my favorite, like newer horror movies as

1126
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,000
far as the probably last decades. So I thought, oh man,

1127
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:21,400
we're in for like a nice sleeper hit here where

1128
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,039
it's like, Okay, it was a good, solid, scary story,

1129
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:27,079
you know that, that's what it was, and it's you know,

1130
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:29,559
check boxes. I would never say it's bad or anything

1131
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:31,079
like that. So that's where I'm gonna go with seven

1132
00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:32,679
out of ten. That's where I am. That's like a

1133
00:48:32,679 --> 00:48:35,400
C plus. That's kind of how I feel about it.

1134
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,360
Like I said, I like Taylor where I will watch again,

1135
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,840
but I'm no rush. I think my time span is

1136
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,079
probably a lot later other than okay, maybe I want

1137
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:45,719
to see it, but even then, it's just I think

1138
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,320
there's other things we would rather probably watch before this again.

1139
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,400
For even to get her to get her caught up

1140
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,760
on something you know, so uh so solid, you know,

1141
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,719
fun horror flick. It entertained me for about under two hours,

1142
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,840
but kind of, as I said at the beginning, a

1143
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,159
little underwhelming for me, so I'm not going to be

1144
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,119
returning to it too much. So where are you on this?

1145
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: On final score, I'd probably go a seven point five,

1146
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:10,519
just a little bit higher than you.

1147
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 2: It's not a perfect movie.

1148
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:14,119
Speaker 3: I would have loved it if it had that kind

1149
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:16,679
of like twist at the end or something like that

1150
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,519
to really like send us for a loop, But no,

1151
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,559
I think it it was good. I definitely think you

1152
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,079
should do one watching of it in the theater and

1153
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:29,079
just kind of go on this adventure and enjoy it

1154
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,559
for what it is. It's definitely a spooky movie, and

1155
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,079
a big plus for me is I could leave the

1156
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,800
theater and not feel like shit, like so depressing or

1157
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,559
anything like that. But I had like a good resolution

1158
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:40,519
to it, and it had a good follow up with

1159
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:45,880
these characters getting vindication and yeah, just when it should

1160
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,599
hit the fan, like it hit the fan, and it

1161
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:49,280
had a lot of moments where I was really on

1162
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,519
edge and I like that.

1163
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's definitely a seven and a half.

1164
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,559
Speaker 1: There you go. Well, we reviewed The Black Phone. If

1165
00:49:57,559 --> 00:49:59,679
you get kirkslon slots when he sees that eventually in

1166
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,840
jump on here and uh yeah, thank you very much

1167
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,000
for tuning in. When you hear from us next, it'll

1168
00:50:05,039 --> 00:50:06,119
not be boring.