Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we're gonna get started here in just a minute.
Speaker 1: A couple of minutes behind tonight, but we're uh, we're
Speaker 1: rolling and going, so thanks for joining and here we go. Okay.
Speaker 1: I started the stream a little bit late. I usually
Speaker 1: start two or three minutes before the top of the hour,
Speaker 1: so I started right at the top of the hour.
Speaker 1: We're tinkering around with the ID fifty two plus anniversary edition,
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining tonight. I appreciate everyone being here.
Speaker 1: It is Sunday night in Texas. I hope it's Sunday
Speaker 1: out where you are too, although if Hayden's in the
Speaker 1: chat is probably already Monday morning by now. So appreciate
Speaker 1: everyone being here. I uh special shout out to the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel members who are in the chat tonight. I
Speaker 1: saw Wayne in there earlier W five wn R Wayne
Speaker 1: and also Wayne DOSSI thank you to both of you
Speaker 1: guys for being there. W B seven O U T
Speaker 1: is in there, Phil, I see you in there, and
Speaker 1: don k C five QQ that's kind of a neat
Speaker 1: Cole sign KC five QQ, W five FBC traveling Ham
Speaker 1: Randall see you guys in there. And Izzo was in
Speaker 1: there a minute ago, he said, smoke signals r F.
Speaker 1: He's like, every time an Icon product is featured, I
Speaker 1: buy it. So the best kind of customer there you go,
Speaker 1: thanks for being here, don So we're gonna hop right
Speaker 1: into it here because why not. Well, I got one thing,
Speaker 1: one thing I want to say real quick before we
Speaker 1: before we bring ray on, let me go here. I did.
Speaker 1: I did because I talked about this the other day.
Speaker 1: So I called the other day and I booked us
Speaker 1: a spot at Lake Ray Roberts for October whatever. That
Speaker 1: third Saturday is nineteenth, October, Yeah, nineteenth, So ports your
Speaker 1: parks weekend October nineteenth. It's at a different branch this time,
Speaker 1: the i'll du Bois branch, which is the one we've
Speaker 1: been to for the last two or three times. That
Speaker 1: one was booked. There was no pavilions available, but they
Speaker 1: had a pavilion available at the Johnson, Yeah, the Johnson branch.
Speaker 1: So Lake Ray Roberts State Park, Johnson Branch, pavilion number one,
Speaker 1: October nineteenth. We'll go out there, set up that morning,
Speaker 1: probably set up my hex beam, do some poda all
Speaker 1: day long. Everybody's welcome to come out and join us.
Speaker 1: So we're going to do that on that Saturday, So
Speaker 1: anybody who's interested, I'll talk about it a lot between
Speaker 1: now and then. That's probably about three weeks away, so
Speaker 1: make sure you're on my email list. I'll send an
Speaker 1: email about it in a week or so, and uh,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it on a few different live streams
Speaker 1: between now and then. So just wanted to throw that
Speaker 1: out there. So thanks for that, because it is going
Speaker 1: to be a fun time again. That's that's just a
Speaker 1: fun that's a fun time every time we do that.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's bring Ray and Frank. I saw
Speaker 1: you join in there. I don't know who you were
Speaker 1: talking to a minute ago, Frank.
Speaker 2: But I was just ending the live stream of Charlie.
Speaker 2: We're just doing some small backtag. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure I got in here right on time, because
Speaker 2: we got it, specially guests. Ray Man, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well I'm the reason is late, So.
Speaker 1: That's all right.
Speaker 4: I mean, you never get a sales guy to help
Speaker 4: do icon technical support, all right.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's a fair point. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: fair point.
Speaker 4: But also Tank was going a little bit nuts. I
Speaker 4: was showing him I hit a water burger.
Speaker 2: Nice. I love it.
Speaker 1: He's in Mississippi. He's got waterburger.
Speaker 2: I just got the usual Rudy's cup with some water
Speaker 2: stay hydra. Right through these two hours and a half
Speaker 2: streams I do with you, man, Well, I do an
Speaker 2: hour beforehand every other week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's not gonna be.
Speaker 2: We do the yours street man. It's it's great. I
Speaker 2: love it. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: Cool well good.
Speaker 3: I wanted to.
Speaker 4: I'm already young, and I got an early early flight
Speaker 4: in the morning, so I'm doing early am airport Cardio.
Speaker 2: Where are you going?
Speaker 3: I'm going to Tampa, Tampa.
Speaker 1: Oh, are you going up there for some sort of
Speaker 1: aries something relief effort. They just got hit by the hurricane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there or storm surgeons, I should say. I think they
Speaker 1: got rain and winds and stuff right right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got they got rain and wind and everything.
Speaker 4: From what we're hearing is at least for the convention
Speaker 4: center is okay. It's not like what hit them a
Speaker 4: couple of years ago that really devastated quite a few marinas,
Speaker 4: and there's no plans to build some of them back.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm headed down there for the IBEX convention,
Speaker 4: which is for the boat builders. It's a it's an
Speaker 4: industry conference, so you'll have anybody that has to do
Speaker 4: with building boats there.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, good, Yeah, Icon Marine Industry. I'm still here.
Speaker 1: My camera is still freaking out on me. I can't
Speaker 1: figure out what's wrong with it, so I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to replace it. But yeah, so where'd
Speaker 1: you go?
Speaker 3: Frank?
Speaker 1: How did you get there?
Speaker 2: You got speaker?
Speaker 1: Just I got speak Oh you were talking? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: my bad okay? Oh good? So IBEX convention, good deal.
Speaker 1: Ray that that should be a should be a good time. Cool.
Speaker 4: In fact, there's a there's a hand that's already sent
Speaker 4: me information. He works for one of the distributors for
Speaker 4: like Polk Audio and things like that, so his stuff
Speaker 4: goes on the much larger boats.
Speaker 3: But h he'd let me know that he's on his
Speaker 3: way down there.
Speaker 4: He got an Icon radio for his boat, and then
Speaker 4: drooling over the different Icon radios that we show there.
Speaker 1: Cool. Good, Well, if it's anything like that Icon booth
Speaker 1: that was at IWCE a few years back, I went
Speaker 1: to Vegas for that and I com had a really
Speaker 1: motorola had a huge booth there, but Icon had a
Speaker 1: really good showing at that that event as well, so
Speaker 1: I imagine it's it's a big to do out there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've really downsized a lot. Last year, iw C
Speaker 4: was in Orlando. Should be back in Vegas this year
Speaker 4: or this next year, so it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Cool. Well, tell us about how was that.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a small number of these Gray Anniversary
Speaker 1: radios that were well, there was a small number produced,
Speaker 1: I think, and there was an even smaller number that
Speaker 1: were sent to the United States, is what I was told.
Speaker 1: And when I when I heard that, that's when I
Speaker 1: went out. But I picked mine up from Richard at
Speaker 1: Main Trading Company. He actually had him in stock, and
Speaker 1: the other people I talked to didn't have them in
Speaker 1: stock at the time. They're like, yeah, Gigabarts kept telling
Speaker 1: me I think we have some, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: But Richard had him on his website, so I just
Speaker 1: went and grabbed one one day. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this radio, so why not?
Speaker 2: But that's the anniversary was announced at Huntsville, if I'm correct,
Speaker 2: we showed.
Speaker 3: The radio itself there.
Speaker 4: We announced it in at the Daytonham Benson with the
Speaker 4: Bits and Pieces Radio, and I would love to join
Speaker 4: you for your PoTA event on the nineteenth, but I'll
Speaker 4: be flying out to Kirkland for a week of training
Speaker 4: and meetings on the twentieth and just getting back on
Speaker 4: the fourteenth from the sixtieth anniversary celebration in Osaka, Soto.
Speaker 4: Where is a heavy travel month.
Speaker 1: Sounds like it. Well, have a be safe out there,
Speaker 1: for sure. I've always wanted to go to Japan, and
Speaker 1: I was talking to Josh about after he did that
Speaker 1: live stream with you. He mentioned wanting to go to
Speaker 1: the Tokyo Hamfair last year, and I'm like, dude, I
Speaker 1: have been wanting to go that for like three years.
Speaker 1: So if we go, if you go out there, let
Speaker 1: me know, maybe we you know, get a hotel room
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know, go with somebody I know
Speaker 1: instead of cooling but myself.
Speaker 4: Well, airfare shouldn't be too bad. I fly into Dallas
Speaker 4: Fort Worth and then directly to Tokyo.
Speaker 1: Really from DMW Okay, that's good to know.
Speaker 3: Have a twelve hour flight.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. What airline are you on?
Speaker 3: American? Okay?
Speaker 2: Perfect?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2: I love being in Dallas love being in Dallas, no doubt.
Speaker 4: In fact, Ham is it Ham Prep Paul, Yes.
Speaker 1: Prep Prep Ham Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, he's based out of Dallasport work and flies on American.
Speaker 4: So there's two airports in Tokyo, Narita and oh gosh,
Speaker 4: hn D is its designation? Okay, but I cannot for
Speaker 4: the life of me remember I always fly into Narita,
Speaker 4: but he flies mainly into Anita.
Speaker 1: There we go, Okay, Okay, he's in the chat right now.
Speaker 1: By the way, he says, Ray, I'll see you on
Speaker 1: the fourth.
Speaker 3: Oh okay.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I fly back on Thursday and then Friday,
Speaker 4: my wife and I fly to Japan.
Speaker 3: On the fourth.
Speaker 1: Oh nice.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's it's a busy week.
Speaker 1: That sounds like wow, flying to Japan.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Prep m Paul says, let's go next year him Radio
Speaker 1: two point one. Yeah, he's including you in that. Franks,
Speaker 1: you get your get your airline ticket now, saving your pennies.
Speaker 2: I I wish I could be like Paul Man who
Speaker 2: just you know, I'm gonna work and just take the
Speaker 2: time off and somehow magically arrived there.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's everybody's got their own kind of kind
Speaker 1: of uh gimmick, I guess, but yeah, that's.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: I do want to go.
Speaker 3: I do want to go. The tickets weren't too bad.
Speaker 1: That's good, that's good. I don't uh, I I looked
Speaker 1: at tickets like a year ago for that when it happened.
Speaker 1: But when I when I asked Josh about it, he's like, well,
Speaker 1: they everyone announced a new radio this year, so probably
Speaker 1: next year there won't be anything happening at all. Like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. I don't. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: how popular that is.
Speaker 2: But uh, maybe we can get Icon to sponsor US.
Speaker 1: Sponsor. I come when even sponsored rate that often?
Speaker 4: So yeah, they put me to work, so right, it's
Speaker 4: not there's no such thing as a free airflight air
Speaker 4: flight to uh Tokyo.
Speaker 1: No, I don't doubt that at all. Okay, so we've
Speaker 1: got this. Let's say I'm gonna switch over right here,
Speaker 1: and this is the radio. Ray tell us about this radio?
Speaker 1: What obviously, the USB C charging is different than the
Speaker 1: original ID fifty two, But what else was what else
Speaker 1: was upgraded in this radio? In the Plus model?
Speaker 4: The two big things one was what you pointed out
Speaker 4: the USBC. So you can do programming, charging, offloading, or
Speaker 4: loading data to the micro SD card.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So one of the things that you can do natively
Speaker 4: on the fifty two series is see c photos that
Speaker 4: are transmitted back and forth.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you.
Speaker 4: Can use the you can use the app to do that,
Speaker 4: or you can natively do it with the radio itself.
Speaker 4: But the other thing is an upgrade on the Bluetooth chipset.
Speaker 4: So there are additional things that you can do with
Speaker 4: the radio. Now you no longer need to be tethered
Speaker 4: to your smart device that's connected to the internet. Okay,
Speaker 4: so you can wirelessly be in access point mode or
Speaker 4: terminal mode on the radio.
Speaker 1: Now explain the difference between access point and terminal mode
Speaker 1: if you don't mind. I know you didn't want to
Speaker 1: go through that part of the menu, but but I
Speaker 1: saw those two I saw those two options in the
Speaker 1: app that we're going to look at here in a minute,
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand what the difference was.
Speaker 4: So terminal mode is where just imagine the handheld being
Speaker 4: your your Bluetooth speaker microphone. Okay, so you can control
Speaker 4: what reflector you go to and things like that, and
Speaker 4: the radio itself is then is your speaker mic.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: Access point mode is where you use the radio, but
Speaker 4: then you use another radio to talk to it. So
Speaker 4: you could have it set up inside the house and
Speaker 4: then being outside with another radio make that communication through
Speaker 4: through the radio itself.
Speaker 1: So in theory, I could set up like an access
Speaker 1: point radio here in the shack on an external antenna
Speaker 1: and then take the ID fifty two inside the house
Speaker 1: and talk in through the access point radio here in
Speaker 1: the shack. Yes, okay, gotcha, Okay, that makes sense. Okay, okay, good,
Speaker 1: So this.
Speaker 4: Is this is the first one. Let me think I
Speaker 4: might be misspeaking. The seven oh five might also be
Speaker 4: able to do it wirelessly, but that's the only two
Speaker 4: radios that you can wirelessly have terminal mode or access
Speaker 4: point mode. The rest of them need to be tethered
Speaker 4: to a computer or some type of smart device connected
Speaker 4: to the internet.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, okay, okay, good okay. I turned the screen back
Speaker 1: to you guys. Saw that as my background on my
Speaker 1: screen was dark. I changed it that way on purpose
Speaker 1: because I like that better. But I think it's easier
Speaker 1: to see this in the camera so I change it
Speaker 1: back to the white background. You can do either or
Speaker 1: on this radio.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: It came this way, and I changed it to the
Speaker 1: dark background because again I prefer that, but definitely easier
Speaker 1: to see it in the camera now, I think.
Speaker 4: Now there is also a setting where you can turn
Speaker 4: the timer off on the back light. Yeah, and the
Speaker 4: radio will stay on all the time.
Speaker 1: I'm not look at that here in a second. So
Speaker 1: this application is called rs MS one A and it
Speaker 1: connected to I'm connected via Bluetooth right now, and it
Speaker 1: connected right up the first time I pulled it up
Speaker 1: and it I turned Bluetooth on on the radio and
Speaker 1: searched for it on the phone. They found each other.
Speaker 1: They paired no problem. I had a I had an
Speaker 1: error on the app when I tried to connect. They
Speaker 1: paired together, the phone and the radio paired together. And
Speaker 1: then I had an error when I opened the app
Speaker 1: and tried to connect the app to the radio. But
Speaker 1: that was easily resolved when I changed the CIV address
Speaker 1: inside of the app and just just had to look
Speaker 1: it up in the menu system on the radio and
Speaker 1: go into the app and change it and boom, it's
Speaker 1: right there. So now they see each other every time
Speaker 1: I connect it. Now they see each other just fine.
Speaker 3: So that's it.
Speaker 4: And you got to give our technical sport guy that
Speaker 4: helped you out a shout out because he is a
Speaker 4: fan of your show.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah. His email said that he had
Speaker 1: I had met him at Dayton last year, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's right. I apologize for not remembering that I
Speaker 1: met several people at the icon booth, so I will
Speaker 1: have to remember that the next time I see him
Speaker 1: at a show. But yeah, Shane was a Shane. I
Speaker 1: explained to him what I was doing. He was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: just go here, change this. He knew exactly what it was,
Speaker 1: so he was very helpful in that regard.
Speaker 4: And it is interesting because when you take a look
Speaker 4: at it and you say you want to connect to
Speaker 4: the ID fifty two, there's three different versions. Now, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's the fifty two, the fifty two plus sixtieth anniversary,
Speaker 4: and then there will be the fifty two non anniversary model, right,
Speaker 4: the fifty two plus non anniversary model.
Speaker 1: And does the That's one thing I didn't ever get
Speaker 1: a chance to ask Shane. The programming software itself, does
Speaker 1: that work on the plus model? Or is that going
Speaker 1: to be a new version.
Speaker 4: It should already be up on the website. If it's
Speaker 4: not on the ICO America, go to the global site,
Speaker 4: which is Icomjapan dot com. Okay, go to the ID
Speaker 4: fifty two and under the support download section will be
Speaker 4: the software.
Speaker 1: I went to the Icomamerica site and drilled down to
Speaker 1: the ID fifty two plus page and went to the
Speaker 1: down the software downloads, and that software was called ID
Speaker 1: fifty two. It didn't say anything about plus, so I
Speaker 1: was not sure if the had been updated yet, and
Speaker 1: I didn't try to connect to it or anything. But
Speaker 1: that's probably something I'll do in a future video. But
Speaker 1: I'd like to go through some programming steps and see
Speaker 1: what we can do with that. But it is. But
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the times some of these radios
Speaker 1: are reviewed, especially the Chinese radios that have USB C charging.
Speaker 1: Many times that usbcport is on the battery, so you're
Speaker 1: just charging with it. And one question I get really
Speaker 1: often is can you program the radio with USBC, Which
Speaker 1: you already said that Ray, So this radio here is
Speaker 1: programmable with USBC, not only just chargeable with USBC. So
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a. That's a plus in
Speaker 1: my book because you can both program and charge it
Speaker 1: via the USBC port.
Speaker 4: So that's I'll send a note to the team on
Speaker 4: the ICOM America website. I'm looking at the ICOM Japan
Speaker 4: site and do I have share privileges on here?
Speaker 1: I can give them to you. Okay, Okay, you're good now.
Speaker 3: And find the right page here.
Speaker 1: So Vic is asking, No, not Vic some but he
Speaker 1: asked that it. Oh they're Jamison, there we go, he asked, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 4: So there's a CS fifty two plus programming software. It
Speaker 4: was uploaded on the ICOM Japan site in July twelve.
Speaker 1: Okay, I did not look on the Japanese side. I
Speaker 1: looked on the ICAM America side. Okay, good deal. Good,
Speaker 1: I will go grab that probably after the stream ends.
Speaker 3: Good, so I will definitely email and let the guys know. Perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jamison in the chat is asking, isn't there a ninety
Speaker 1: fifty two A? If so, what's the difference?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, Ray, The A model is
Speaker 1: the America's model, the North America model, and the E
Speaker 1: model is the European model. Guess sir, And is there
Speaker 1: a different one for the for the Asian or Japanese model.
Speaker 4: It's either going to be the A or the E. Well,
Speaker 4: I take it back for in country. For the JDM,
Speaker 4: they will have their Japanese site and the software will
Speaker 4: be on there for them.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but yeah, the A is the one that
Speaker 1: we're going to see in North America generally speaking. So okay,
Speaker 1: so this, uh, this software here, I'm gonna you pointed
Speaker 1: out a minute ago that I was unlocking my phone
Speaker 1: on camera, so I'm not gonna do that again. So
Speaker 1: this software here will do a lot of things. And
Speaker 1: this is the This is kind of the menu that
Speaker 1: I was when I went through that. When I opened
Speaker 1: up this menu and just kind of read through it,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I think I need
Speaker 1: to get ray on and have him kind of go
Speaker 1: through all this. So if you don't mind, this is
Speaker 1: kind of the menu that I'd like to go through.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you can't see that. I forgot I thought
Speaker 1: I switched that.
Speaker 3: When I was sharing my screen. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: No, no, you're fine, it's fine. So this is the
Speaker 1: this is the once again the audience can see it. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the application. If you click the little Hamburger
Speaker 1: menu at the top left. These are the menu items
Speaker 1: that are in the list here. And this is kind
Speaker 1: of like like there's a lot of different stuff here
Speaker 1: that this will do. And DR. There's a DR mode
Speaker 1: and a share pictures and a text The text messaging
Speaker 1: is what I was trying last night when I was
Speaker 1: trying to connect to the UIs repeater and send a
Speaker 1: tech I just sent test and I saw it key
Speaker 1: up the radio and I guess it didn't key the
Speaker 1: repeater because the RX history was still blank. But that's
Speaker 1: kind of neat that you can send a text message.
Speaker 1: So if you don't mind, can we just go through
Speaker 1: this menura? Is that okay?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: So the top one is just says DR, which I
Speaker 1: assume is not digital recorder, but.
Speaker 4: No DR is kind of one of those We started
Speaker 4: using it but then made changes to it. So the
Speaker 4: DR no longer makes sense because it's supposed to be
Speaker 4: digital repeater, okay, But in the fifty one A plus
Speaker 4: series we added the analog repeaters or the FM. So
Speaker 4: even though it says DR it.
Speaker 1: Is all repeaters, it's all repeaters, okay.
Speaker 4: And so when you're using the GPS function on the
Speaker 4: radio in your DR mode you ask, it'll ask you
Speaker 4: for near repeater. It'll ask you if you want analog
Speaker 4: digital or both. Now, okay, I've actually that's going.
Speaker 3: With the evolution of the product too.
Speaker 1: Right, right, I've actually done that with an analog repeater,
Speaker 1: with an analog FM repeater on my seven O five.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: We were out at the hunting Lease last year and
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder if this works, and I
Speaker 1: kind of tinkered with it for like five minutes. I'm like, okay, good,
Speaker 1: it's pulling up my local two meter repeater, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that works good. And there's there's one of.
Speaker 4: The other One of the other cool things about the
Speaker 4: DR mode is when you are in DR mode and
Speaker 4: on the radio itself, if you push and hold the
Speaker 4: direction keypad down, it'll go into DR mode.
Speaker 3: Ye. Then hit scan.
Speaker 4: And if you've got a GPS lock in it, which
Speaker 4: that one's not I can see right, it'll scan all
Speaker 4: the repeaters in the local area there. It could be
Speaker 4: either analog, digital or both.
Speaker 1: Is there some way you have to go in and
Speaker 1: set and tell it to use the GPS when you're
Speaker 1: looking at DR mode or does it do that automatically.
Speaker 3: Does it automatically? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because I went into dr mode in my seven oh
Speaker 1: five one time and it was pulling up repeaters in
Speaker 1: another state. This was a long time ago. I probably
Speaker 1: didn't have a lock on it. Maybe I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I was wondering if you had
Speaker 1: to go in there and somehow tell it, hey, this
Speaker 1: is where I'm at, or if it just the GPS
Speaker 1: just did all that for you.
Speaker 2: Do you have to prepopulate a database with it?
Speaker 4: You can, and I do recommend doing that. It comes
Speaker 4: with a database loaded already into it. Databases are a
Speaker 4: nightmare to manage and update, and when you get into production,
Speaker 4: you can't just every month update the list in the
Speaker 4: radio because that really changes the way.
Speaker 3: The production goes.
Speaker 4: So we do hear people make comments, yeah, that repeater
Speaker 4: list is so old that comes in the radio. We
Speaker 4: do apologize for that. But dstarinfo dot com works with
Speaker 4: the repeater book and they have a pretty accurate database
Speaker 4: that you could download your local area. And we were
Speaker 4: talking earlier about it, Jason and I were talking about
Speaker 4: how Texas has got over sixteen thousand repeaters. There's not
Speaker 4: a single radio on the market right now that can
Speaker 4: hold sixteen thousand repeaters. So what I did is I
Speaker 4: looked at a couple of trips that I make. I
Speaker 4: used to go out to Courtsfest, So from DFW to Courtsfest,
Speaker 4: I would have a couple of reloads that would do
Speaker 4: off of the SD card, and then going up to Oshkosh,
Speaker 4: I would also have a listing of the areas. And
Speaker 4: I mean even going down to oh Gosh, I can't
Speaker 4: even think of a Hamfest that I would see you guys,
Speaker 4: see you at Jason.
Speaker 1: Or Belton, Belton, Belton, yea, even.
Speaker 4: Just going to Belton. I had to use a different
Speaker 4: list because there were so many repeaters in Texas.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually next weekend. So we're going We're going
Speaker 1: to Belton next weekend. That's a fun shows. It's not
Speaker 1: very big, but it is a fun show.
Speaker 3: And you can have some awesome barbecue there too.
Speaker 1: Yes, very true, very true.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so that's the dr mode. I got
Speaker 1: to keep unlocking my phone, but this is good information. Okay.
Speaker 1: So the next one on the list is share Pictures.
Speaker 4: So if you remember a few years back and even
Speaker 4: actually almost twenty years ago when one of our competitors
Speaker 4: came out with a video recorder that you could send video. Yes,
Speaker 4: and then more recently a speaker mic that you had
Speaker 4: no clue what you were taking a photo of.
Speaker 1: Yes, you guys are very very low resolution on that
Speaker 1: speaker mic too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you can use the resolution of your phone's camera,
Speaker 4: take a photo, edit it, do whatever you want to.
Speaker 4: If you need to put a little circle or an
Speaker 4: arrow pointing to it, you can do that on your
Speaker 4: phone and then upload the image to anybody on the d.
Speaker 3: Star network anywhere around the world.
Speaker 4: And with the radios that have the color displays like
Speaker 4: the ninety seven hundred, the seven oh five, the fifty two,
Speaker 4: it will display it.
Speaker 3: On the radio itself.
Speaker 1: Oh nice.
Speaker 4: For d Star radios like the older fifty ones or
Speaker 4: the seventy one hundred, you would have to receive it
Speaker 4: on your your smart device.
Speaker 1: So so you'd have to connect your smart device to
Speaker 1: the fifty one hundred and it. If I'm not mistaken
Speaker 1: that one the Bluetooth module that is an add on,
Speaker 1: it doesn't come with it, that's correct, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: And fifty one hundreds was one of the very first
Speaker 1: d Star rate. Well, I shouldn't say that it was
Speaker 1: the first d Star radio that I It was the
Speaker 1: second d Star radio that I owned. But I mean,
Speaker 1: the fifty one DRED has been out a while. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an older radio, but I tell you
Speaker 1: what it that's the radio I use in the truck
Speaker 1: every day. I love the display on that radio. Even
Speaker 1: though it's just black and white monochrome, it's fine, But
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the the and I like the
Speaker 1: fact that it's touch screen. I don't really care for
Speaker 1: touchscreen on an HT so much, but the driving down
Speaker 1: the road, that touchscreen is helpful. So I like the
Speaker 1: fifty Okay, so you can actually send that was my
Speaker 1: question is, like, how do you get a photo?
Speaker 3: Sorry, you need to take.
Speaker 1: Your screen, I guess.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, you talk about timing out a repeater.
Speaker 1: Now we're tea and I like this LA like like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see it in the
Speaker 1: screen right now, but it's got the screen saver on
Speaker 1: the radio too. It's got ID fifty to a plus
Speaker 1: that flashes around the screen if you leave it on
Speaker 1: too long and you just you just hit a button
Speaker 1: and it turns off. But I don't know if you
Speaker 1: could put a picture on that or not, but that
Speaker 1: because it's kind of a neat screen saver.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: So your text messages are going to be from smart
Speaker 4: device to smart device, okay, and there again, you got
Speaker 4: your keypad that you can I mean, video game training
Speaker 4: going on right there with the two thumbs right.
Speaker 1: Right, totally. So I can't send a text message just
Speaker 1: directly to a radio, no, sir, okay, okay, so i'd
Speaker 1: have to I'd have to get Frank to get one
Speaker 1: of these and get him to connect his smartphone.
Speaker 4: To it, okay or MRG, you could chat with him
Speaker 4: all you wanted to, because he's got a fifty.
Speaker 1: That's that's right, Yeah, that's right. See. I always wanted
Speaker 1: to think that the ID fifty, which came out after
Speaker 1: the original fifty two, was basically the like how you
Speaker 1: guys released the twenty seven thirty after the fifty one hundred,
Speaker 1: which was almost kind of a little bit the same radio,
Speaker 1: but you took the D star out of it. That's
Speaker 1: what I thought the ID fifty was at first when
Speaker 1: you first released it. But obviously that that's not right.
Speaker 4: But the fifty would not be able to receive an
Speaker 4: image on the screen, like you're fifty two, So if
Speaker 4: he was to send something to you, you'd be able
Speaker 4: to see it on.
Speaker 1: The radio, gotcha, gotcha? Okay, okay, we'll have to have
Speaker 1: to do memars with someone else that has a fifty
Speaker 1: two I guess.
Speaker 2: Well, but both of them be able to receive it
Speaker 2: on the phone Bluetooth paired, right, Yes, so that is
Speaker 2: the application does it using the phone as a model.
Speaker 2: But the newer phone, the newer phone, the newer ID
Speaker 2: fifty two plus has showed on the screen.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, totally, totally, okay, okay, all right, so we've
Speaker 1: got a map and an all offline map. Obviously the
Speaker 1: map will show your repeater locations if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: that is correct. And then I guess you can download
Speaker 1: that entire thing in the offline map in case you
Speaker 1: run out of cell service. Yes, okay, pretty explanatory there.
Speaker 1: And then RX history is the next thing. Is that
Speaker 1: the same thing as the RX history on the radio
Speaker 1: that we were just looking at.
Speaker 4: Well, you remember how our buddy Carlos jumps out of
Speaker 4: an airplane. Yes, if he was doing it on d
Speaker 4: Star the seven oh five, the fifty, the fifty two
Speaker 4: to fifty one all maintains those call signs that kerchunk
Speaker 4: the repeater or talk to them. Okay, so you would
Speaker 4: have the full list of who called, what time it was,
Speaker 4: and if they're transmitting their GPS locations, all of that
Speaker 4: data is going to be in your received history.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna have to get Carlos to jump with this.
Speaker 1: He told you the story about his bag falling off
Speaker 1: of his hip, right, Yes, he did, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it had his ID fifty in it. Yes, and it survived.
Speaker 1: So I told him. I was like, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta talk to Ray about that seriously, because he did.
Speaker 3: I think that was that Huntsville he was sharing that story.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a it was
Speaker 1: a fun story.
Speaker 3: So actually that happened at Huntsville.
Speaker 1: Yes, he was jumped, Yeah, he was jumping. I think
Speaker 1: it was Saturday morning of the Huntsville Hamfast and he
Speaker 1: lost his bag and or no, yeah, it was it
Speaker 1: was Saturday morning because we had our forum Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: He was telling us about it there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he texted me said, my my bag came loose.
Speaker 4: And the first thing I said was dude, are you.
Speaker 1: Okay right right? Totally. Yeah, it was just something that
Speaker 1: was strapped to him. There was nothing wrong with his
Speaker 1: shoot or anything.
Speaker 4: But so could you just could you just imagine what
Speaker 4: the people had owned the house was thinking, here they
Speaker 4: see this wild man with his beard right on. Uh,
Speaker 4: there's something on your roof that I need to get.
Speaker 2: I have a couple of quick questions about the app,
Speaker 2: since we're talking about the app right now, go ahead, Frank,
Speaker 2: does the app this comes from ham Radio Tube k
Speaker 2: A M R d iPhone lover? Does the app work
Speaker 2: on iOS?
Speaker 4: There is an r S are let me remember r
Speaker 4: S M A one A and an I one for
Speaker 4: Android one for the iOS.
Speaker 1: Yes, there's there's an iOS app for it. Because I
Speaker 1: was I was looking at that.
Speaker 2: The second question is I saw a couple of people
Speaker 2: point up to it saying they want to know does
Speaker 2: the app work with a straight I D fifty.
Speaker 3: Two A Yes, yeah, m hm.
Speaker 1: Correct, yep, that's.
Speaker 3: It, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Well, I got others, but we'll do like a rapid
Speaker 2: fire session.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, no problem, no problem, okay, good, So RX
Speaker 1: history and then uh, and then there there's a display
Speaker 1: here thing for my call sign. I'm a little confused
Speaker 1: why that's there. But is I mean, because I know
Speaker 1: what my own call sign is. But maybe you can
Speaker 1: put multiple call signs in there for multiple users. Is
Speaker 1: that okay? Yes, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's it's if you pass it around, you
Speaker 4: can just change to the next user, or you might
Speaker 4: use a different number for a different mode of transportation.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So if you're off roading on your ATV, you might
Speaker 4: do it as a dash five ah okay, because you
Speaker 4: got to really remember, every time you keep the push
Speaker 4: to talk, you're sending out your GPS location, right, So
Speaker 4: if if anywhere around there is an iGATE that is
Speaker 4: populating this over to the A p R s F I,
Speaker 4: just like on APRS, you want to define what what
Speaker 4: you're doing, whether it's walking, horse riding, ATVs you dam it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense? Okay, okay, good? Yeah. And you
Speaker 1: know if you have multiple radios running d star that
Speaker 1: that that makes sense that they're all individually unique, so
Speaker 1: good yep okay. And then repeater list and that's the
Speaker 1: same thing we were kind of looking at a minute ago.
Speaker 1: It's got twenty one different sections here, Africa, Asia, Australia, Canada,
Speaker 1: a bunch in Europe, what not, Latin America, Middle East?
Speaker 3: It's got whatever. The list is that you update the app.
Speaker 1: With okay, okay, so that's updateable then yes, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 1: And the next one is transceiver settings. Now what can
Speaker 1: you do? I was I was curious about this can
Speaker 1: you actually control? And I thought when we when when
Speaker 1: we interviewed interviewed you at Huntsville, Ray, I misunderstood what
Speaker 1: you were talking about when you talking about this app.
Speaker 1: I thought there was an Android and iOS app to
Speaker 1: program channels into this radio. But that's not what this does.
Speaker 3: No, well, no it does not. There's there's not a
Speaker 3: way to upload or download with it. Okay, okay, but this.
Speaker 4: This does allow you to change some of the settings
Speaker 4: on it, okay, on the radio itself, so if.
Speaker 3: You need to go to low power, you can do that.
Speaker 4: I don't have I don't have a radio and app
Speaker 4: with me right now, because I don't think TSA is
Speaker 4: going to let me on an airplane. Seeing an icon
Speaker 4: logo on a radio.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that took a second to put together.
Speaker 1: A second to get that.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, okay, I certainly. Hope that's now. I went,
Speaker 1: Now I want to buy a plane ticket and go
Speaker 1: somewhere to take my icon just to do it. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to do that.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, short hop it'll be a great video.
Speaker 1: Josh said he bought one of those off of eBay
Speaker 1: and he's like, as soon as he got it open up,
Speaker 1: he's like, this is so fake. You could tell just
Speaker 1: right off the bat. This is not an icomery.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I kinda I kind of made a comment
Speaker 4: to a reporter that I and I should have learned
Speaker 4: from watching all the politicians with the open mics. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I got I got quoted based on something that was
Speaker 4: a non official quote.
Speaker 1: Oh well, okay, moving on, Yes, sir, so transfer settings
Speaker 1: we've got, in fact, when we read these, we've got
Speaker 1: output power, DV data, transmit GPS select GPS, transmit mode,
Speaker 1: DV text message or transit t X message, and then
Speaker 1: DV fast data.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the real cool thing that that DV text message,
Speaker 4: uh huh, because there's voice in data simultaneously transmitted. What
Speaker 4: a lot of the d star users do is put
Speaker 4: their email address in there, okay, or they'll state what
Speaker 4: type of radio they're using. And if you go to
Speaker 4: any of the reflector the D plus reflectors, they do
Speaker 4: a last herd. You'll see some of these messages that
Speaker 4: are out there and people are just saying what particular
Speaker 4: radio that they're using. And it's always it's always fun
Speaker 4: when when I get on the Star and I happen
Speaker 4: to have a.
Speaker 1: New radio, people are like, what is that?
Speaker 4: Okay yea, or or you get to hear the people
Speaker 4: go that don't recognize the call science saying those things
Speaker 4: aren't out yet.
Speaker 3: How do you have one?
Speaker 1: I'm special? Okay, cool?
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: So the next one down is application settings. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff in Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 4: That's just different things, whether you want you US measurements
Speaker 4: or European measurements, Canada measurements, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, See, heightened distance units is set to meters and
Speaker 1: speed unit is set to kilometers per hour. So obviously
Speaker 1: I haven't updated this, but I mean that's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's totally fine. But yeah, okay, there's your SSID setting
Speaker 1: with the dash a and you're, uh the symbol change
Speaker 1: symbol looks like I'm on a walking symbol right now? Okay, good,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff this will do now.
Speaker 4: Ray thinks this episode should be renamed We got the
Speaker 4: icon guy and he can. He's helping us read the
Speaker 4: manual on the app.
Speaker 2: We're doing the thing that we all never do.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're hams. We don't read the manual, but
Speaker 1: we'll watch a video about reading the manual. That's totally cool.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I love it. Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Let's see, I thought of something. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: Okay, Braid knows who's pulling the strings behind the scenes here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we don't want to go we don't want
Speaker 3: to read the yula.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, never, No, of course, not that way we can.
Speaker 1: It's a plausible deniability at that point. Okay, So there's
Speaker 1: an import and an export on here. If I click
Speaker 1: on import, it selects the content repeater list, so you can,
Speaker 1: I guess you can import an export repeaters from your
Speaker 1: SD card through the app.
Speaker 4: Well, that just proved me to be a liar because
Speaker 4: I just finished saying that and I paused, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I thought that was in there, but no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I don't think we had that on that.
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's a difference between using the DR mode
Speaker 1: and actually programming channels into the radio. And I was
Speaker 1: talking more about actually programming channels into memory. So I
Speaker 1: see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I haven't tried it.
Speaker 4: I haven't used it in quite a bit, so it
Speaker 4: probably could do an import and export on the SD card.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, interesting, So I wonder Okay.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for the next episode.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that might be something something I tinker with myself.
Speaker 1: Repeater list download from the icon page right, In fact,
Speaker 1: it has download from the internet select a ICOM website. Oh,
Speaker 1: look at that. It's going now, overwrite the current list
Speaker 1: and add to the current list. Oh, let's let's just
Speaker 1: let's just go for it. Overrite the current list.
Speaker 3: And it was second.
Speaker 1: It was that quick. It said completed and now repeater list.
Speaker 1: There's still twenty one here. I think we're in midwest
Speaker 1: in Texas. Yeah, okay, so you can update that through
Speaker 1: the app. That's pretty okay, that's pretty cool. I like that.
Speaker 1: That's pretty neat. And of course you can export everything,
Speaker 1: can save it if you want to put it on
Speaker 1: another radio, or if you lose your radio, want to
Speaker 1: save your information something like that. Yeah, okay, and then
Speaker 1: Bluetooth connection is already connected. It gives you the Mac
Speaker 1: address there yep, and it does as something else I
Speaker 1: wanted to point out. It does say icon bt ID
Speaker 1: fifty two. It does not say fifty two A or
Speaker 1: fifty two plus. And I asked Shane about that. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we just haven't updated that yet. I'm like, okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: so no problem. I just wanted to make sure I
Speaker 1: was using the right thing and then exit. And that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty much it for the application. One thing I
Speaker 1: did want to ask you. You sent me a list
Speaker 1: of all of the different applications and what they were
Speaker 1: used for Ray and which was very helpful.
Speaker 3: I did, oh yeah, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was asked because when I went to
Speaker 1: look for this app, there was another This is called
Speaker 1: the MS one a A for Android. There's also one
Speaker 1: called an MS three A and I'm like, is that
Speaker 1: a later version in the one A or what is that?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: And I downloaded the three and the menus were all different.
Speaker 1: I didn't really figure out what it was for. Your
Speaker 1: email told me what it was for, but I don't
Speaker 1: remember now. But there's a there's more apps than just
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 4: Right, the three A is what allows you to do
Speaker 4: your terminal mode and access point mode.
Speaker 3: Ah, so that's your that's your host software or you're talking.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that makes sense. Good okay.
Speaker 4: Now one thing with the with the image sharing, it's
Speaker 4: very interesting. It looks just like slow scan TV. It
Speaker 4: will do a pixel at a time and just go across.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Actually, I think that's a neat to
Speaker 1: I think that's a neat feature. Honestly.
Speaker 2: How long will it take to stand a average let's say,
Speaker 2: twelve megapixel pixer.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't remember the actual actual pixelation that
Speaker 4: it does, but the largest, most highest resolution takes about
Speaker 4: a minute and a half.
Speaker 2: That's not It doesn't the image.
Speaker 3: No, it does not.
Speaker 4: You either you either get the pixel or you don't.
Speaker 4: So you might get a green dot. It's almost like
Speaker 4: you lose a pixel on a screen, it'll be a
Speaker 4: green square.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it's just going in one direction. It's not asking
Speaker 4: for an acknowledgment. It's just transmitting each each pixel.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, Okay, Okay, Frank, I think there's been interesting discussions
Speaker 1: about a people of challenge, whether it's legal or not.
Speaker 4: You're not id but in the data header for the
Speaker 4: d Star the digital protocol, it's sending your call sign
Speaker 4: throughout the whole time.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, that's a common question. Why we're talking
Speaker 1: about Arden as well, but similar, similar answer to that. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I accept that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you are receiving that, it might not
Speaker 2: be presented. But if you're if the encode of standard
Speaker 2: is well known and published then and it's just in
Speaker 2: the header. Yes, that makes complete sense, and I think
Speaker 2: it satisfies the legal requirement for transmitting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it depends on what you're looking at. And this
Speaker 4: will open up a can of worms and you'll probably
Speaker 4: have added discussion about it. D STAR does two is
Speaker 4: completely a digital stream, but in it you have voice
Speaker 4: packets and data packets. The data packets even if they're empty,
Speaker 4: and in fast DV mode, they're repurposed to be.
Speaker 3: To move I'm sorry the other way around.
Speaker 4: In fast DV mode, if you're not embedding voice packets,
Speaker 4: it will repurpose those for data so the image will
Speaker 4: go faster. Ah okay, and it will transmit the call
Speaker 4: sign of the radio in that data header. Where the
Speaker 4: controversy comes in are the analog to digital gateways that
Speaker 4: are out there where you have an analog signal come
Speaker 4: in and the person verbally IDs he's iding in that
Speaker 4: particular mode. But then it goes over in a d star.
Speaker 4: The data packets no longer have the header of the
Speaker 4: originating station. They have whatever call sign is programmed in
Speaker 4: for the entry point, not the original AID, not the
Speaker 4: originating RF station. So there is that gray area if
Speaker 4: somebody is just receiving data only, and people like who
Speaker 4: would want to receive data only? Well, if you're doing
Speaker 4: a text message or you're doing a picture, there are
Speaker 4: no voice packets utilized there, right, So that's data only.
Speaker 4: So that does get to be a very interesting subject
Speaker 4: to when, especially when you start talking to the protocol
Speaker 4: junkies and protocol purists, and trust me, they do exist.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh I have no doubt about that at all.
Speaker 2: I deal with a lot of protocols in my day
Speaker 2: to day job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet. Okay, all right, Frank, I think you
Speaker 1: had some questions.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right off the bat, let's do this one. Charging.
Speaker 2: Is there a charging base or cradle for the new
Speaker 2: UH plus anniversary.
Speaker 3: It's an option.
Speaker 4: We do include a USB A to USB C cable,
Speaker 4: but you'd have to supply your own block. I just
Speaker 4: plug it into my into my multiport and it just
Speaker 4: charges off of that.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's got it's got these four contacts on
Speaker 1: the back of the battery. And also correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong here, ray this battery. You guys have have
Speaker 1: kept this same battery. This is the same battery that's
Speaker 1: on the original fifty two, of course, and the seven
Speaker 1: oh five.
Speaker 3: The original fifty one, the okay, the.
Speaker 1: Seven o five, Yeah, the seven oh five.
Speaker 3: You can use the seven oh five, any of the
Speaker 3: fifty series, Okay.
Speaker 4: It is a BP two seventy two, and I think
Speaker 4: comes with it for the two seventy three, and the
Speaker 4: three oh seven will work with it.
Speaker 1: This is a BP two seventy two, Okay. This is
Speaker 1: what I got with mine, eighteen hundred millionamp hours. So,
Speaker 1: and there is a thicker model, a thicker version than that.
Speaker 1: And don Izzo in the chat he sent me a
Speaker 1: thicker version for my seven oh five. Don that eventually died.
Speaker 1: It It took like two or three years, but that
Speaker 1: battery eventually died. But but yeah, that same form factor
Speaker 1: of battery for all, which is really cool. I like
Speaker 1: it when the companies do that. Okay, good, I like this.
Speaker 2: Why gray Manpota, is there a Bluetooth option for hearing
Speaker 2: impaired capabilities?
Speaker 4: We do have the VS three, that is the wireless
Speaker 4: earbud type device. I use one in my RV when
Speaker 4: I'm driving, so I did change out the earbuds that
Speaker 4: come with it, a couple of them over the ears.
Speaker 4: That way I can still hear. But there's two different types. Well,
Speaker 4: there's three different types of push to talk on it.
Speaker 4: One is the push to talk, released to listen, the
Speaker 4: single tap to key up, single tap to un key,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: The vice the VOX mode. But would not recommend using
Speaker 3: VOX mode while driving in Dallas.
Speaker 1: No, No for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah you lived here man, Yeah, I agree. This
Speaker 2: is from Paul. Will the app work with the I
Speaker 2: D fifty one a anniversary with Bluetooth?
Speaker 3: Yes, I believe that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all the Bluetooth d Star radios it'll work.
Speaker 2: With right right, nice nice With the next firmware update,
Speaker 2: blah blah. Let me try that again. This is talking
Speaker 2: about terminal Moto Bluetooth. With the next firmware update, will
Speaker 2: you be giving us the capability to terminal Moto Bluetooth
Speaker 2: with the regular ID fifty two.
Speaker 3: No, that's a chip set, that's a hardware difference.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, so the newer models would
Speaker 1: do terminal mode, but not the older models.
Speaker 2: M hmm. I think we answered this one, but I
Speaker 2: think it's a good question. Is the radio programmable via
Speaker 2: the computer or is it only app controlled radio?
Speaker 4: You can program it with a computer using the CS
Speaker 4: fifty two plus software. You could directly download from a
Speaker 4: resource like dstar, infod dot com onto an SD card,
Speaker 4: plug it in the radio, and then import the repeater
Speaker 4: list from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That the DR mode. Yeah, that's that's part of
Speaker 1: the DR mode we were talking about at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the stream, which includes digital repeaters and analog repeaters
Speaker 1: these days. That's that doesn't put it in. I think
Speaker 1: it's important too, because this is what confused me at first.
Speaker 1: That doesn't actually write it to memory. This almost like
Speaker 1: a separate, whole, separate memory bank. Like you've got your
Speaker 1: DR mode and you've got your complete repeater list and
Speaker 1: your DR mode analog and digital analog and d Star,
Speaker 1: and it uses the GPS to find the repeater closest
Speaker 1: to you. Works very well. I've used it on my
Speaker 1: seven or five a few times. I've never used it
Speaker 1: on this yet, but I will. And then when you
Speaker 1: write stuff to memory, that's what the CS fifty two
Speaker 1: plus he was just mentioning is four and apparently that's
Speaker 1: on ICOM Japan's website, and Ray's going to work to
Speaker 1: get it on the ICM America website. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to go down that and download that in tinker.
Speaker 3: I've already sent the email, by the way.
Speaker 1: Okay, good. And this is an easy radio to program.
Speaker 1: I think I did a video with my fifty two
Speaker 1: when I first got it. This is an easy radio
Speaker 1: to program. From the front panel. It's easy to just
Speaker 1: kind of tap in there, go into the whatever band
Speaker 1: you're on, the offset sets for you set your CTCSS tone,
Speaker 1: say write to channel memory one, two, three, four, whatever,
Speaker 1: and go from there. So it's very I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: it's going to be faster with the computer, but it
Speaker 1: is not difficult. There's been many times I've put an
Speaker 1: extra repeater in this radio or my fifty two, or accurately,
Speaker 1: when I'm in the field, I'm like, I want to
Speaker 1: save that, and then I've got just add to the
Speaker 1: list already have so that if I don't want to
Speaker 1: use the DR mode.
Speaker 4: I see a popular question from Lawrence Keile bravo five.
Speaker 3: Zool zoo bravo.
Speaker 4: Okay, Can I use the terminal mode to connect to
Speaker 4: a D plus repeater No? Or dplus reflector No. Unfortunately
Speaker 4: the developer refuses to write the code to work with
Speaker 4: the terminal mode. The developers of the I R c
Speaker 4: DDB software have worked with it. It will work with
Speaker 4: the oh I can't remember the designation of their reflectors,
Speaker 4: but it will work with the I R c D
Speaker 4: I R CDDB reflectors.
Speaker 3: No problem.
Speaker 2: Nice. I had a question here, where did it go?
Speaker 2: What is the name that we're talking about? We said
Speaker 2: it a couple of times, but what is the app name?
Speaker 4: It's it's ours for Radio Software m S one I
Speaker 4: for for the iOS, or the m S one A
Speaker 4: or the Android.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Can we find it by just simply searching ICOM in
Speaker 2: the app stores or we have to search it by
Speaker 2: those names?
Speaker 4: And there's several there's several different ICM apps for our
Speaker 4: marine radios. We allow you to use your and it's
Speaker 4: unfortunately it's just iPhone only or no I'm.
Speaker 3: Sorry they did fix that.
Speaker 4: It's both iOS as well as Android where you could
Speaker 4: use your smart phone to be a remote command mite
Speaker 4: for our radios.
Speaker 1: H I searched icon in the Google Play Store, and
Speaker 1: the first two apps to come up with that M
Speaker 1: S one A and the m S three A, which
Speaker 1: is what we just talked about a minute ago, is
Speaker 1: the one you can use to turn it into an
Speaker 1: access point, terminal mode or access point. So I didn't
Speaker 1: know the difference between the two and and and so
Speaker 1: I send email to Ray and he told me what
Speaker 1: it was. But yeah, I was. It was very easy
Speaker 1: to find for me. And there are a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a there's a there's two or three apps out
Speaker 1: there that are specific to the seven O five actually,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of icom apps in the Google
Speaker 1: Play Store. But the m S one A, because I
Speaker 1: have an Android device, was fairly easy to find for me.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any problems with it.
Speaker 2: Nice cool cool. Uh this is from Mike. He wants
Speaker 2: to learn more about the text message thing. His words,
Speaker 2: is it simply is it a simplex thing or do
Speaker 2: we have to use the same reflector.
Speaker 3: You can do simplex.
Speaker 4: You can use a reflector, you can do call sign routing,
Speaker 4: which means, if it's using the ICOM Gateway software, I
Speaker 4: could send a text message to Tank without even knowing
Speaker 4: what repeater he's on. I just put tanks call sign
Speaker 4: in the you are call sign field and it will
Speaker 4: route it to him.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: And that's using the reflector system. But if we're just using.
Speaker 4: The repeater system, the reflectors. The reflectors are eight reflectors
Speaker 4: on it are a third party software layer.
Speaker 1: Okay, so think think of a reflector frank like a
Speaker 1: talk group in DMR. So got You've got your repeater
Speaker 1: which is which is whatever frequency, and then you've got
Speaker 1: multiple talk groups you can connect to through that repeater.
Speaker 1: That's what a reflector is. Reflectors actually out did they
Speaker 1: were actually pre date talk groups. There was there was
Speaker 1: reflectors long before there was talk groups. But but yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what because so you can connect to and and
Speaker 1: D star. Reflectors are like one Alpha, two, Bravo, three,
Speaker 1: Charlie and all these kinds of numbers. They're they're numbered
Speaker 1: instead of named, which is which is fine. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so if I'm sitting on a repeater at two B
Speaker 1: and you're sitting on another repeater at one alpha and
Speaker 1: he does call sign and you're you've I think you
Speaker 1: have to chunk the repeater right to let them repeter
Speaker 1: know you're no.
Speaker 3: No, well, okay, if.
Speaker 4: Tanks operating and communicating through a repeater, it will automatically.
Speaker 3: Route to it because it updates.
Speaker 4: The central database that tank is talking on a repeater
Speaker 4: down in Houston.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But if I just if I get on a
Speaker 1: plane tonight and fly somewhere and get to my hotel
Speaker 1: tonight and turn my radio on and just monitor a
Speaker 1: repeater without ker chunking the repeater and letting it know
Speaker 1: I'm there, then find me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I got to somehow let it know I ker
Speaker 1: chunk the repeater.
Speaker 2: That's all good information, Yeah, because I was just wondering
Speaker 2: the how does that work? And hell, let everyone know
Speaker 2: how it works like that. So they don't expect this
Speaker 2: to be like the ultimate off grid radio. And they're like,
Speaker 2: you could do all that, I'm off grid. No they can't,
Speaker 2: they can't.
Speaker 1: But it will work, simplex.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was about will work simplex, and and the
Speaker 4: reason why it will not is amateur radio does not
Speaker 4: allow you to do automatic handshaking on amateur repeaters, So
Speaker 4: you physically have to key per chunk the repeater to
Speaker 4: let you know that, to let the network know you're there.
Speaker 2: Is that a FCC regulation?
Speaker 3: Yes, automated stations.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like a motorola automatically associates with the with
Speaker 1: the system it's connected to or something like that. That's
Speaker 1: what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, that's a new thing. I didn't think about.
Speaker 4: These Star has been a these Star has been a
Speaker 4: huge learning curve on I mean so many different uh
Speaker 4: legal things. So you're bound by the most restrictive country. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and when you're talking about global communications, and it was
Speaker 4: very interesting when d star first came out.
Speaker 3: Well we can do this, we can do that.
Speaker 4: Well, the protocol was written in Japan by the JAARL,
Speaker 4: not in the United States by the AWRL.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 4: Now, one of the other cool things tank when we're
Speaker 4: talking about kurchunking the repeater. You know, when you're traveling,
Speaker 4: you go to another area, you go to the repeater directory,
Speaker 4: you program in an analog repeater, but you cannot access
Speaker 4: the repeater because you do not.
Speaker 3: Know the tone.
Speaker 2: Been there, done that.
Speaker 4: D Star is somewhat the same way. You cannot access
Speaker 4: the repeater if you do not know the repeaters call sign.
Speaker 4: But the cool thing about d Star is as soon
Speaker 4: as you ker chunk a d Star repeater, it will
Speaker 4: then reprogram your radio with a proper call sign to
Speaker 4: access it.
Speaker 2: Nice and katuking, I just need a key the frequency,
Speaker 2: just the and then I don't have to have any
Speaker 2: of the other digital information in there, just keith and frequency.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 2: Nice, I like that feature.
Speaker 4: Now there's four call signs in d Star, and it's
Speaker 4: it's kind of confusing how they call it your call
Speaker 4: sign meaning the operator's call sign, repeater one, repeater two,
Speaker 4: and then you are call sign. You are call sign
Speaker 4: is what we call the destination call sign who you're
Speaker 4: wanting to talk to.
Speaker 2: I couldn't named that a little bit better. But so
Speaker 2: was that like a translation thing?
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know it was engineers, Well.
Speaker 1: It wasn't, Frank. It was probably somebody writ in C
Speaker 1: plus plus.
Speaker 2: Well, I blamed on code.
Speaker 1: They like.
Speaker 2: They like the two letter abbreviations. You are.
Speaker 3: But here's the cool thing about it.
Speaker 4: Once you could chunk the repeater, you've got the RPT
Speaker 4: one call sign program for you. The RPT two tells
Speaker 4: a repeater what you want to do with it. So
Speaker 4: if you want to go if you want to go
Speaker 4: in on VHF and out on UHF, your RPT one
Speaker 4: in the eighth character will have a letter designation that
Speaker 4: will equal to VHF, which most of the time people
Speaker 4: put VHF on C. And then the RPT two you
Speaker 4: put the same repeater call sign, but you put B
Speaker 4: because B is on UHF. So you could then crossband
Speaker 4: tell a repeater you want to crossband through it, and
Speaker 4: if it's emergency communications, you can talk to everybody on
Speaker 4: both bands. But if you want to be able to
Speaker 4: do things beyond the repeater controller like travel through the
Speaker 4: gateway or go to reflector RPT two gets the G
Speaker 4: for gateway and most people will just do that and
Speaker 4: just say everything goes to the gateway.
Speaker 2: And these are settings that you do on the phone.
Speaker 2: You just tell it what mode and then the the
Speaker 2: phone or radio will just out change change that out.
Speaker 2: But this is just the needy, greedy to protocol stuff,
Speaker 2: which I do enjoy.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I can we can go deep into weeds
Speaker 4: on that one if we want to, But I think
Speaker 4: most of the audience will go will you too, please
Speaker 4: shut up?
Speaker 2: How many pages? Just out of curiosity? The one I'm
Speaker 2: working on at work work is over a thousand because
Speaker 2: it's one of those government ones.
Speaker 3: What was the question?
Speaker 2: Think how many pages is the protocol? Because the one
Speaker 2: I'm looking and working at at work is like fifteen thousand,
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4: I think there's I think there's something like twenty eight pages.
Speaker 4: But unfortunately not everything was documented. Robin cutsba.
Speaker 3: Oh, the thing. The thing is Robin.
Speaker 4: Cutshaw, a A four R C, the developer of D plus.
Speaker 4: He's a protocol junkie, and he's the one that pointed
Speaker 4: out not everything was documented, and in his presentations he
Speaker 4: shows you basically what NEO sees in the matrix, all
Speaker 4: the ones in zero. I love it, and I mean
Speaker 4: it was just. The very first thing that came out
Speaker 4: from the development was the argument of the repeater ID.
Speaker 4: The repeater doesn't ID unless you kerchunk it. And then
Speaker 4: that started the debate, Well, the repeater doesn't ID on
Speaker 4: its own. The FCC rules do not say you have
Speaker 4: to ID.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Now if you don't, if you don't kirk
Speaker 1: chunk an analog repeater for several days, it never keys up.
Speaker 1: In IDs by itself, unless unless they programmed it to do.
Speaker 4: That depends on how old the repeater is. The early
Speaker 4: early days of repeaters had a five point fifty five
Speaker 4: timer and the only thing, the only thing, only requirement
Speaker 4: was that the the call sign had to be transmitted
Speaker 4: every ten minutes during the conversation. Right, So with it
Speaker 4: just being a five point fifty five timer, oh, every
Speaker 4: time ten minutes, it would I d HM. But the
Speaker 4: d Star repeaters, when you kirk chunk them, they will
Speaker 4: send an acknowledged back acknowledgment back.
Speaker 3: To the radio.
Speaker 4: The early radios would not beep or anything. You just
Speaker 4: see the S meter bounce over. So Robin Robin started
Speaker 4: working with it and realized the first thing he wanted
Speaker 4: to do was to get a voice ID. So you
Speaker 4: kirk chunk the repeater and it would give you a
Speaker 4: voice ID. Now, through the development of d Star and
Speaker 4: what Robin was doing, we ended up coming up with
Speaker 4: the you AUR call completely blank except for the eighth
Speaker 4: character with the letter I. The letter I was a
Speaker 4: command for D plus for information. So you ker chunk
Speaker 4: the repeater with IF and you look at the call
Speaker 4: sign fields when you go to repeater information and it
Speaker 4: will then the d plus will give you the information back.
Speaker 4: The IRCd DDB guys did the same thing. It will
Speaker 4: tell you the call sign, the port as well as
Speaker 4: the link status of the reflector. At the early days,
Speaker 4: and when I talk about early days, this was in
Speaker 4: two thousand and one, two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: Okay, when was d star released, wasn't it? Early nineties?
Speaker 3: Late nineties?
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety nine there was an article in QEX three
Speaker 4: different articles that talked about the development of the protocol,
Speaker 4: utilizing open source vocoders and things like that, and why
Speaker 4: they ended up going with the DVSI chipset.
Speaker 1: Okay, good to know.
Speaker 4: Which then opens up another area where d star being
Speaker 4: an open protocol. No, some of the purists were like, no,
Speaker 4: it's not open if you're using a DVSI chipset. And
Speaker 4: my rebuttal to it is you look at today's transmitters.
Speaker 4: Are you going to mix your own UH silicon and
Speaker 4: geranium to build your own UH?
Speaker 3: I guess ld L D moss.
Speaker 1: Now right right right?
Speaker 4: I mean, if you really want to get down to it,
Speaker 4: if you're using somebody's chip set that you're reliant on
Speaker 4: to generate r F power. Then you're not true open source.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of about to call you out on that.
Speaker 2: But so so it sounds like d STAR is. It's
Speaker 2: also a hardware chip set, is not just a digital protocol, right.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, and that's the same. That's true with DMR
Speaker 1: Infusion as well. Yeah, they both use d DVS side
Speaker 1: chip sets.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's that's very true. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think the M seventeen is using the d
Speaker 1: v d v SI chip set. I don't think, but
Speaker 1: I can't remember right now.
Speaker 4: I don't think they are either. I really haven't looked
Speaker 4: at a whole lot of it.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I've looked at it, but it's that
Speaker 1: they got an a r DC grant like a year
Speaker 1: and a half ago, and it's progressed a lot in
Speaker 1: the last year and a half since that happened. So
Speaker 1: in fact, I've got I've got ads scheduled to come
Speaker 1: on and talk about it here soon also. But it's
Speaker 1: a cool it's a cool it's a cool protocol. But
Speaker 1: you know, all of the all the digital voice protocols
Speaker 1: are cool in my opinion. I just I just know
Speaker 1: the least about d star, So that's my fault more
Speaker 1: than anything. So cool.
Speaker 2: I do have one last question. Go ahead, Frank, this
Speaker 2: is from TCS. You ready.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think I want to hear his question.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Will we be seeing a waterproof test tonight?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not throwing this seven in the lake. I'm
Speaker 1: just not gonna do it. So I tell you what
Speaker 1: TC fits. You send me your radio and I'll go
Speaker 1: swimming with it. How's that I'll do that?
Speaker 2: Well, we'll just wait for Mike to do it, and
Speaker 2: then he ruin another iPhone.
Speaker 1: I think he's done that with his.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did that.
Speaker 1: That's the start with this fifty fifty I think, or
Speaker 1: what was one of his radios he did.
Speaker 4: I think it's an ip X seven or a IPX
Speaker 4: eight rating. Yes, make sure make sure all the rubbers
Speaker 4: in place.
Speaker 1: Right, right?
Speaker 3: Most women? Right? Yep?
Speaker 1: I should try that, but I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I mean, so you can even take the battery off
Speaker 4: and take a look at how the battery contacts between
Speaker 4: the battery and the radio. Have a rubber gasket on.
Speaker 1: It, yes, yes, they certainly do that. Or you can't
Speaker 1: see it in that picture right there, but that orange
Speaker 1: rubber seal right there, that's what that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the thing that you got to be careful of
Speaker 4: is some of the third party and uh too cheap
Speaker 4: to be true battery. Do not always seal against that.
Speaker 4: Do not try to send the radio with the icon
Speaker 4: battery pack and say it doesn't work. I don't know
Speaker 4: what happened because the corrosion corrosion and those pins will
Speaker 4: will tell on itself.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, And I.
Speaker 4: Think somewhere in the manual on the on the Plus
Speaker 4: series it talks about it can tell if it's been
Speaker 4: submersed without the proper seals and gaskets.
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's good to know.
Speaker 3: I think it has to do with the U the
Speaker 3: USB seaport.
Speaker 2: I think the USB seport, Yeah, Ken, there's ways that
Speaker 2: built into how that the USB CED's designed. It could
Speaker 2: take water and then it will shut self start itself
Speaker 2: off if you take the hole speck and not just
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the power through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. We did.
Speaker 4: We did have an issue at times with some of
Speaker 4: the third party speaker mics not I mean when you
Speaker 4: plug it into the radio, there's a gasket around the
Speaker 4: eye speaker mics that you have to see.
Speaker 3: It in there very well.
Speaker 4: That the others looked like it would go in there,
Speaker 4: but it did not form a seal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, hmmm, well I showed uh. I showed John
Speaker 1: at Yazu my uh third party battery on my FT
Speaker 1: five at him Vintion, and he laughed at me. He's like,
Speaker 1: he's like, don't send that thing in when that battery
Speaker 1: breaks the radio. I'm like, I won't. John's good sport though,
Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's fun to tease, fun to tease him.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, cool, Well, hey, this is this is
Speaker 1: we should get together and do a deep de Star
Speaker 1: deep dive because I would learn a lot from that myself. Honestly,
Speaker 1: when I first got my IC seven O five, I
Speaker 1: was tinkering around with it and I couldn't get I
Speaker 1: think I I was trying to connect to Bob K
Speaker 1: six uda. He had a he had a d star
Speaker 1: reflector up at the time, and I was trying to
Speaker 1: connect to it and I couldn't figure it out. And
Speaker 1: so we got on a zoom call and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't put my call sign in the radio, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, shoot, okay, now I don't mean I
Speaker 1: don't mean this in a bad way. But when you
Speaker 1: when you buy a brand new Yazoo and you bit
Speaker 1: it up the first time, it says what's your call sign?
Speaker 1: That the icon doesn't do that, so you just.
Speaker 2: Have to go in there and put wizard. There's an
Speaker 2: installation wizard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, auto runs, so I hadn't put my so Bob,
Speaker 1: he and I walked through it. It took less than ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and I got my call sign put in the IC
Speaker 1: seven h five, and then we got on the reflector
Speaker 1: together and we talked to one another. It was easy
Speaker 1: to do once I understood it. But he was explaining
Speaker 1: to me about the whole repeater A and repeater B
Speaker 1: and the two meters and four forty side and all this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and this was several years ago, I
Speaker 1: don't really remember much of it, but I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know that would be I think that's really great information
Speaker 1: because that's just not something I'm very you're with. So
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll get maybe we can try to get
Speaker 1: Ray back on here in a couple months or so
Speaker 1: after not in October, because he's got a busy month
Speaker 1: in October and uh go through like the month already.
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, man, I'm I'm only home five days
Speaker 4: in October.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, goodness out. I'm gonna tell my wife that
Speaker 1: the next time she complains about my traveling. I'm well,
Speaker 1: raised only home five days this month. So she's probably
Speaker 1: listening actually right now. But yeah, I think that'd be
Speaker 1: a fun stream to talk it. Just do like a
Speaker 1: deep dive into d Star, like a sixty to ninety
Speaker 1: minute stream, just talk about all the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of D Star and what.
Speaker 4: Would love to We also have the d Star one
Speaker 4: on one courses recorded that we've done at Dayton, and
Speaker 4: I say, I say we loosely. I basically tell the
Speaker 4: guys hey from the d Star Info group Ed and
Speaker 4: Ed and John, Hey, we got people that want to
Speaker 4: do it. You guys, go do it. So that's about
Speaker 4: my level of participation.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, But.
Speaker 3: They do a good job.
Speaker 4: They will be doing it again at Dayton twenty twenty
Speaker 4: five at the dury In on Friday morning. It's three
Speaker 4: hours and they they really don't go into a huge
Speaker 4: deep dive, but enough to get the d start curious
Speaker 4: going in the right direction. After talking with Tank here,
Speaker 4: I think he's going to want to drive me, drag
Speaker 4: me over to the deep end of the pool.
Speaker 2: I get down, nuts and bolts. I'm a programmer. I
Speaker 2: love going down. That serialization of desirrelation of data is
Speaker 2: fascinating to me.
Speaker 4: Well, go ahead and get started by searching for AA
Speaker 4: four r c D starr AA four r c D.
Speaker 3: Think. Sorry, I'm getting all my acronyms mixed up.
Speaker 1: D plus D plus Yeah.
Speaker 3: D plus.
Speaker 4: There is a decink page that goes with D plus
Speaker 4: and that's written by another developer out of Southern cal
Speaker 4: But yeah, Robin actually in one of his slides shows
Speaker 4: the the ones and zero's tanks and shows you how
Speaker 4: they're grouped for the data header and this and this
Speaker 4: and this.
Speaker 2: I will definitely look at that for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be Yeah, you would enjoy that.
Speaker 2: Frank, I think we might do that on my channel.
Speaker 1: I just do it on my channel that people can
Speaker 1: actually watch it there.
Speaker 2: Oh, even drinking tonight, man, I've had.
Speaker 1: A little bit right here. I finally opened that four
Speaker 1: roses that I got it to Huntsville. Oh, oh nice,
Speaker 1: So it was good. I mean, of course, for already
Speaker 1: knew that floor. I opened the four roses last because
Speaker 1: it was the one that I've already had and I
Speaker 1: know is good. So the green was it Green Country
Speaker 1: or whatever we did Bourbon green Label or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: we did Bourbon that the guy who gave me that bottle.
Speaker 1: The week after that, we went to Galveston and it's
Speaker 1: on my video. I'm working I worked him on PODA
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there calling CQ and he comes back
Speaker 1: to me and he's like, so, how'd you like that
Speaker 1: weeded bourbon I give you. I'm like, dude, I haven't
Speaker 1: even opened it yet. But I got home the week
Speaker 1: later and opened it, and that was really good as well.
Speaker 1: He's like that one's one that flies under the table.
Speaker 1: He's like, people don't know about it, but you drink
Speaker 1: it the first time, you're like, wow, that's really good.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I hadn't heard of this. So that
Speaker 1: was very good as well. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: that gentleman's watching tonight, but I don't remember his call sign,
Speaker 1: but it's on my video so I can go back
Speaker 1: and look at it.
Speaker 2: So I this is downstairs. I was just walking into
Speaker 2: a random a liquor store down to Gallason this weekend
Speaker 2: and I saw this McKenna McKenna bottle and bonded. I
Speaker 2: haven't seen this bourbon for four years.
Speaker 1: Which which liquor store it was on?
Speaker 2: One on the strand it was overpriced?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I know what. I know. You're talking yet.
Speaker 3: Talking about drink?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, that's right. Sorry sorry squirrel, Yeah yeah, right,
Speaker 1: right right. I forgot that, Frank, I totally forgot that
Speaker 1: you were. You had just got back from Galveston. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: how was it?
Speaker 2: I had a blast. We we It was very relaxful.
Speaker 2: I did sneak away from my friends and I played
Speaker 2: a little bit of Poda yesterday and it was we
Speaker 2: had a blast.
Speaker 1: I was getting hammelerts about you at Poda. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Frank's down there at my park doing Poda.
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying on I'm gonna you.
Speaker 1: And then and then I was like and then I
Speaker 1: was talking to Kate Emmerdi yesterday and He's like, who's
Speaker 1: he down there with? I was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who he's I was like, it's not ham Frint. He's like,
Speaker 1: are you sure he's not down there? With Ham friends.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if Frank was down there with Ham friends
Speaker 1: at my house and I wasn't invited, I would be
Speaker 1: pissed right now. No, he's down there with like his
Speaker 1: game of threat, game of you know, magic, the gathering
Speaker 1: card playing friends or whoever they are. I don't know
Speaker 1: who this.
Speaker 2: Normal normal non radio friends, normal non They're like, where
Speaker 2: are you going? I'm like, I'm going to the park, okay, nerd.
Speaker 1: Well, yep, call it like I see it. It's all right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I filmed a video out there and sat on
Speaker 2: the beach and played.
Speaker 1: Some good It's a great place and the weather right
Speaker 1: now is perfect out there, so I'm I envy you.
Speaker 1: I wish I was down there right now.
Speaker 2: I was on ten. I finished it up on ten.
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 2: Gout Belgium, just like the second contact on ten meters.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why did I not start here?
Speaker 1: The the only time I've ever I worked a park
Speaker 1: to park on ten meters from Galveston to a guy
Speaker 1: doing a poda in England. Two guys at two different
Speaker 1: parks in England the same day I was on ten meters.
Speaker 1: I was on a vertical chameleon antenna at Sea level
Speaker 1: and I was on TIM. I was calling CQ and
Speaker 1: one guy comes back. He goes park to park and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that guy's got an accent. I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: park to park. Come back. He's like, this is golf,
Speaker 1: make golf one oh five three. I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: hell you're You're in a freaking park in England. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm in Manchester right now. I'm like, dude, that's freaking.
Speaker 1: And then like ten minutes later, another guy another park
Speaker 1: came to me and I'm like, man, that's that's fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ten meters is an awesome band when it's open.
Speaker 2: I didn't start on ten meters because when I pulled
Speaker 2: up the PoTA page it's only said five people were activating,
Speaker 2: so I was like, oh, that band must be down
Speaker 2: or something. So I went on and twenty was just
Speaker 2: ridiculously unpacked and played there. Then they kind of dried
Speaker 2: up and I was like, let's just do ten. And
Speaker 2: then I was getting Canada, Mexico. I heard a station
Speaker 2: at Italy I couldn't make the contact, and then Belgium.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, yeah.
Speaker 4: You do you guys do know why the Big d
Speaker 4: Expeditions put their verticals on the salt water right.
Speaker 2: The amazing ground. It just pulls them all in and
Speaker 2: they work a lot of d X that way. I
Speaker 2: had a sloper and fed nine to one. Intended this
Speaker 2: go around, I do. I have built the new vertical
Speaker 2: char antenna. It is not ready to go, and I
Speaker 2: wanted to tune it for here because I didn't want
Speaker 2: it to go down to Galveston and cut the wire and
Speaker 2: tune it and then yeah, up up here then the
Speaker 2: SWRB off. But I could probably tune it here and
Speaker 2: then take it down there and just hit the tune
Speaker 2: button in the radio and it'll be fine. I just
Speaker 2: wanted it to be tuned to my ground plane around here.
Speaker 1: No, I think that's the right decision for sure.
Speaker 4: So play some gray scale and open up on eighty
Speaker 4: and one sixty.
Speaker 2: I do need to do that. No true, my neighbors,
Speaker 2: I am. We should do a sixty box antenna around
Speaker 2: all backyards totally just too many.
Speaker 1: Al Right, Well, we could talk for a whole another
Speaker 1: hour about PODA, but we're not gonna do this, So yeah, Ray,
Speaker 1: thank you for your time tonight. And I know you
Speaker 1: got an early morning, so I'm gonna let you go,
Speaker 1: you're in Central time. I guess yes, if you're in Mississippi.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, this was great info. I appreciate all
Speaker 1: the all the knowledge you shared tonight, and I appreciate
Speaker 1: you taking the time out to come onto the live stream.
Speaker 1: So really, uh, really interesting information. I really And I
Speaker 1: gotta admit I like the great color. I mean, just
Speaker 1: the great color of this radio is neat. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I just like the gray on it.
Speaker 2: It's very eye catching. And then the accent red on
Speaker 2: it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and was it's only a special select radios
Speaker 2: also got that leather wriststrap with it.
Speaker 3: That's the sixtieth anniversary.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, we just we just received the last production
Speaker 4: for for the US.
Speaker 1: Okay, Friday, So is there gonna be a difference between
Speaker 1: besides the colors and whatnot, is there gonna be a
Speaker 1: function or performance difference between this and the the regular
Speaker 1: plus that comes out later?
Speaker 3: No? Okay, just cosmetic.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I thought so, But I wouldn't wouldn't hundred
Speaker 1: percent a good question.
Speaker 2: I like the clarification.
Speaker 4: Yeah, with that later, right, I think they'll end up
Speaker 4: going back to the brown boxes.
Speaker 3: MM.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 4: So I'm sorry that the black Box to me was
Speaker 4: just it was very cool with the red sixty.
Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, yeah, I've got I've got the In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna sell my original fifty two because I'm like,
Speaker 1: this boxing radio is so much cooler of my original.
Speaker 1: I don't need to of them. So yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: think the black Box looked great. And and I said
Speaker 1: that in the string. I was like, I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: I did a video about something and I was talking,
Speaker 1: Oh it was the I think it was an interview
Speaker 1: that I did with you at Huntsville, and I said,
Speaker 1: and people were like, well, what's the box up to?
Speaker 1: I was like, if you go to sell that radio,
Speaker 1: the first question you're gonna get asked is do you
Speaker 1: have the box? No matter what radio it is like,
Speaker 1: if you have the box, the radio is worth more.
Speaker 1: It just is so how it works.
Speaker 3: But I love it.
Speaker 1: Good cool. Well, I'm gonna we're gonna shut this down again. Ray,
Speaker 1: thank you very much.
Speaker 4: There was one good question that I remember seeing sure
Speaker 4: lash By, and that was when the fifty two plus
Speaker 4: was going to be available, Okay, and that's looking like
Speaker 4: it's going to be November November December time.
Speaker 1: Right, so possibly before Christmas then yes, okay, good, that's
Speaker 1: that's good timing.
Speaker 2: So I love it, love it perfect.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you once again, Ray, thanks for your time.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a safe flight and a fun
Speaker 1: month out there traveling around the world. He's going to
Speaker 1: a note show look for you can't not have you
Speaker 1: can't not have fun the boat show. Yeah, totally there
Speaker 1: you go, be true. So good, Well, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna shut this down and we will be on. We
Speaker 1: will have our regularly uploaded programs for your Ham Radio
Speaker 1: entertainment all week this week. So I hope you guys
Speaker 1: would join us on our premieres that happened tomorrow, and
Speaker 1: I'll have a premier that happens tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I got building the new vertical antenna coming out.
Speaker 1: Cool. I need to get that one. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't have that one. Yeah. So next weekend is Belton
Speaker 1: and mesh Con and then uh two weekends after that
Speaker 1: is the the Ray Lake Red Roberts poe A meet
Speaker 1: up on October nineteenth, So you guys put that on
Speaker 1: your calendar. I hope to see some of you there
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll catch you guys next time. So you
Speaker 1: guys wave goodbye bye bye, see uh later. Everyone protect
Speaker 1: interpation Cotta