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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day, now Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to mention that it was a beautiful Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have no clue what the weather is like

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<v Speaker 2>right now because I've been in this k for the

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<v Speaker 2>last two and a half hours. And I wouldn't I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. But

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<v Speaker 2>today was kind of like a tease.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We had the sun out, but it wasn't above like

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<v Speaker 2>mid fifties, and it was windy. I'm I'm ready for

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<v Speaker 2>some warm weather and I'm gonna get it next week

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<v Speaker 2>because I'll be in Florida for our spring break trip

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<v Speaker 2>and it'll be warmer there then it'll be here. But

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<v Speaker 2>the last time I went to Florida this time of year,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was reminded that, you know, warmer than

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<v Speaker 2>where we are, but also like, you know, the ocean's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be freezing. And if it's in the seventies and

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're on the beach and that winds whipping, like

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<v Speaker 2>are you I mean you might need to put you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a layer on, right, I mean, I know it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds soft. I'm sure I'll end up, you know, enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>the sun and you know, showing off this phenomenal body

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to the Louisville Men's Clinic. But I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like spring in Florida. When I went to spring break

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago at Panama City when I was like twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>somehow survived. But the first year we went, it was warm,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't really remember. Well, I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>drunk the whole time, so I don't really remember a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot about the weather, but I don't remember it

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<v Speaker 2>being like cold. But the next year we went, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't cold, but it was breezy, like you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody was getting in any water, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was better than being back in Kentucky. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll stop complaining because you don't want to hear that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what's complaining do? And when it comes to complaining, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what a lot of coaches are doing this day and

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<v Speaker 2>age with the portal and nil and their complaints are

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<v Speaker 2>a waste of time. But also they have a point

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<v Speaker 2>that it's way different and it's harder to do their job.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to make a jugs and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really what a lot of people have to do

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<v Speaker 2>in every job. I mean, I'm sure there are exceptions,

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<v Speaker 2>but I imagine a lot of you who've had different

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<v Speaker 2>jobs have had to make adjustments along the way. Some

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<v Speaker 2>were easier to adjust than other than others. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just part of it. So I'll bring that up

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<v Speaker 2>to start the five o'clock hour because I think of

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<v Speaker 2>all the different things that are really right in your

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<v Speaker 2>face that tell you how different college sports is now

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<v Speaker 2>than it was five six years ago. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>graphic that shows where every player starting in the sweet

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen started their career is the ultimate, Like, damn, this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of crazy because there's dudes like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>the Kentucky starting five, there was one guy who I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure out who it was, and then I realized, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's transferred twice, So Kentucky starting five. This is where

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<v Speaker 2>these guys started their career. San Diego State, Oklahoma, Dayton, Delaware,

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<v Speaker 2>and Drexel. I mean, Delaware is where Andrew Carr was

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<v Speaker 2>before he transferred up to Wake Forest. I mean, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got a starting five here for Auburn that has one

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<v Speaker 2>player in the lineup that started his career at Auburn.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else Morehead State, de Kaine, Georgia Tech. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a G here that I don't know what that's for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's for. I think it might

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<v Speaker 2>be for Is it for Greensboro?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm looking at the roster and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know what the G would even stand for. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got a guy that came from D two. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's maybe it's that guy. I'm looking at ole Misses

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<v Speaker 2>starting five because they of course were in the Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen with christ Beard, and I saw Louisville logo and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, wait a second, who is in the Sweet

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen that played at Louisville? And I realized, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who's transferred twice. Drey Davis started his career

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<v Speaker 2>at Louisville, ended up at Seaton Hall. Now he's at

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<v Speaker 2>ole Miss. There's only one starter for ole Miss that's

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<v Speaker 2>started his career at ole Miss. The others started at

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Peter's Virginia Tech. Lowiell is mentioned in Vanderbilt. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that really is an eye opener, if not

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<v Speaker 2>that you needed it, that things are a lot different now,

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<v Speaker 2>but also I think it's it should it should make

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<v Speaker 2>it to where when you see a guy transferring from

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<v Speaker 2>a school like Kennesaw State, North Dakota State, Ohio, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not worried about can they play. I mean, you never

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<v Speaker 2>know if they're going to be good or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>the proof is in the pudding. You you can you

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<v Speaker 2>can have good. I mean, that's the the all the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry the Alabama. I mean I just mentioned the Auburn.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the number one overall. See that was Auburn.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy from Auburn. Elsewhere it was Morehead State to Kane,

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech, and then I think green un see Greensboro.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about Alabama. Who's going back to the final four.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got guys that started their career at Kennessas State,

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota State, Ohio. And this is a Power five program,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's Rutgers the other one. So the only school

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<v Speaker 2>in the Sweet sixteen that has all of their starters

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<v Speaker 2>being guys that started their career there. It's a rare

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<v Speaker 2>program that's successful. And that's Purdue. Purdue's weird, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that in a good way. Matt Painter seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be a guy that has been able to maintain success

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<v Speaker 2>despite all the changes in college basketball. Duke has four.

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<v Speaker 2>But Duke's also rare because if you're good at Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>you're likely not going to leave Duke. They have four starters,

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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, three of them are five star freshmen,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, and in fact, I'm not even sure who

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<v Speaker 2>their four starter is that would be a Dukey. I

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<v Speaker 2>know the point guard transferred from Tulane. He's the only

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<v Speaker 2>guy in the starting lineup that did not start his

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<v Speaker 2>career at Duke. So I just the visual and again

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even about and this is what's Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>just my capacity upstairs or lack thereof. You could, like

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<v Speaker 2>show me a roster and I could, I could, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>see these guys and then see you know, height, weight,

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<v Speaker 2>previous school. But seeing the logos of these school for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason is just what makes it really set in

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<v Speaker 2>that like, these dudes started their career at at some

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<v Speaker 2>of them at a lot at a much lower level. Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got three starters from that started at Houston. The

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<v Speaker 2>other tour from Baylor in Oklahoma. And then there's some

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<v Speaker 2>schools that I like, this is this is the This

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<v Speaker 2>is the only complaint I have about this awesome graphic

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<v Speaker 2>that was put together by a Twitter account called NCAA

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<v Speaker 2>Buzzer Beaters and Game Winners. They don't give you which

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<v Speaker 2>school is which, Like I could tell that if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got four starters who started their career at Michigan State,

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<v Speaker 2>good chance that's Michigan State, right, But there's one start,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one Sweet sixteen team that I can't figure out

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<v Speaker 2>who it is they have. Oh, I think I know now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to be Texas Tech because they've got a Nevada,

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico, North Carolina Texas Tech, And I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Howard Howard, which is a small level D one. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I guess Florida would be the school that has

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<v Speaker 2>one Gator that started there. And then the rest a

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<v Speaker 2>Washington State, Belmont Fau and Iona. Yeah, that's because I

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<v Speaker 2>own Walter Clayton junior. We all know he went to Iona.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore that's what that's what makes it clear that it's them.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

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<v Speaker 2>But what really really seems to be hard to ignore

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<v Speaker 2>is that he's really all about money.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>If Walter Clayton Junior was at Florida last year, which

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<v Speaker 2>he was, and he was you know, let's just say

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Clayton Junior didn't get the same inile money or

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't get more in ale money after showing last

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<v Speaker 2>year a Florida that he was a really good player,

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<v Speaker 2>well he probably would go elsewhere. I mean, Dray Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>he left Louisville to go to Seaton Hall. Seton Hall,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, is believed to be the school with

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<v Speaker 2>the least amount of nil money in the Power five.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's no brainer. Loves loves shean Holloway. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Dre and him are still super close. Drey had a

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<v Speaker 2>baby while he was at Seaton Hall and it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>a sad story, not super sad, but she and Holloway

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<v Speaker 2>shared the story that he had to tell his wife

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<v Speaker 2>to stop getting so close to his players because they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna leave, and like it's just gonna make you sad.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dre had a baby with his with his longtime

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend and coach Holloway's wife got really close, became really

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<v Speaker 2>close to just Dre, his girlfriend and the baby, and

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<v Speaker 2>he left, and you know, she was like heartbroken. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's just the way it is now. Because money matters

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<v Speaker 2>in every aspect of life. It does matters a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We have some that I think don't prioritize it as

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<v Speaker 2>much as others because maybe they don't have to, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they're just more you know, they have more integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but money now matters in college basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm torn because, yes, like that sucks for schools

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<v Speaker 2>that don't have it, because the likelihood of you being successful,

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<v Speaker 2>especially long term or consistently, if you don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>nil money, Like I don't even know how it would

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<v Speaker 2>be possible to do it, you know, with longevity. So

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<v Speaker 2>it sucks. But you expecting players to not do what's

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<v Speaker 2>best for them and their livelihood because you have a

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<v Speaker 2>great fan base, Like, that's not realistic, right, Like, compare

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<v Speaker 2>it to really any other aspect of life. If you

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<v Speaker 2>are playing at let's say Mark Sears, first team All American,

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<v Speaker 2>he started his career at Ohio the Bobcats, not Ohio State, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bobcats in the MAC like them, expecting to keep

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<v Speaker 2>him would really just be charity, right, Like, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way he can make them. I mean, it's him leaving

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<v Speaker 2>money on the table. And most people in their jobs, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll take a job that might pay a little

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<v Speaker 2>less because they realize they've got a great benefits page

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<v Speaker 2>or they have less stress. Like sometimes you will, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll it'll be you'll have a range and maybe you'll

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<v Speaker 2>take the low end of said range because there's other

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<v Speaker 2>things that come with it that are just really valuable

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<v Speaker 2>to you that you know, means more than the monetary

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<v Speaker 2>side of it. I mean, that's that's life with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, right Like people I bet right now

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<v Speaker 2>know they could probably get a job making more money

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<v Speaker 2>doing something different, but it wouldn't be that big of

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<v Speaker 2>a difference, and they're comfortable. Well, like if you're at Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>think about the ceiling you have to make money through

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<v Speaker 2>nil compared to the ceiling you would have at a

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<v Speaker 2>place like Alabama. Like the expectation, and again it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to just all of a sudden overnight realize that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you really can't keep anybody that's worth a certain amount

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<v Speaker 2>because you can't pay them. But like most people wouldn't do,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you would never expect somebody to just okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>stay here because you know, because you can keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not going pro in the NBA and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not like a guy that could potentially play the game

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<v Speaker 2>for a decade at the highest level in Europe, the

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<v Speaker 2>because let me just give me an example. The San

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<v Speaker 2>in like the Big twelve maybe or the Big East,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly the Big East. And if you don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>and they know that, and them choosing not to do

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<v Speaker 2>it would just be a gift to you as a

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<v Speaker 2>Some stuck around for longer than others, like Lamont Butler

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<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna he us San Diego State for a year,

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<v Speaker 2>in the Mountain West and no star recruit who has

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a coach like Brian Dutcher who clearly gets

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<v Speaker 2>guys that not everybody else wants, recruits them, develops them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he loses them, and you know, he took

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<v Speaker 2>what he built to a championship game and then it all,

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to build back up to get there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's you know, he's unable to even keep guys around

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<v Speaker 2>go elsewhere, and like that's just that's now where you

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<v Speaker 2>exist within college basketball, which he does suck, but I also,

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<v Speaker 2>is a this is the San Diego State. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>an NIL collective because I get the logo is similar,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a there's a San Diego State nil collective

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter account that has their coach, Brian Dutcher, basically begging

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of sad, but like it's what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 2>They apparently have somebody that's willing to do like a

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying. But this is a this is a fan

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<v Speaker 2>account it's called as tech tracker. It says pay to play,

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<v Speaker 2>no transfer set out years, zero INCAA regulations, back alley negotiations,

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<v Speaker 2>fake agent operatives, contacting players mid season, luring them away.

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<v Speaker 2>College basketball is no longer the beautiful game. It's a cutthroat,

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<v Speaker 2>backstabbing hell hole between the haves and have nots. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's one emotional side of it to where that's a

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<v Speaker 2>fan going through it coping pretty, you know pretty. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a hard cope there from that person who clearly realizes

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<v Speaker 2>the likelihood of us ever really having sustainable success in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball. It just seems hard because you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>have money. So that's a really tough place to be

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<v Speaker 2>as a fan. But who are you mad at? Because

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<v Speaker 2>here's where I would feel the ultimate If I was

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't you know, what do you do? But I

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<v Speaker 4>The system is what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want players to not be able to make money?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's never happening again never. I mean that's why

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<v Speaker 2>the settlement took place, to where they told the instable, a, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what you did for you know? Generations really illegal. You

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<v Speaker 2>got a billion dollar business that is you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>ntuablea tournament alone, and these guys get free school, they

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<v Speaker 2>get stipend, they're not going without. They're taken care of.

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<v Speaker 2>But look at what is like, you know, you got

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<v Speaker 2>generate the billion dollar that the billions of dollars that

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<v Speaker 2>you get from the n douablea tournament like them, not

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<v Speaker 2>getting at least a revenue share of that is illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why we're here. So again, take the thought

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<v Speaker 2>out of your mind. And it's hard to do, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess because in the previous world, where players couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>paid and they couldn't leave, they were stuck with you. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now they have power, they have freedom, they can do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they want, like most of us in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>who can just you know, go quit a job, go elsewhere. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just a harsh transition for some, including programs

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<v Speaker 4>And I get.

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<v Speaker 2>The frustration, but like, who are you mad at if

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<v Speaker 2>you're med at the ns doable A. I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could be mad at them for I guess not having

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<v Speaker 2>any ability to enforce anything. But I know there's some

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<v Speaker 2>that just won't accept this, but think about it, like

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<v Speaker 2>if a guy can or a guy or girl can

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't or why why would a football player or a

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<v Speaker 2>basketball player have sit out? Like that's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things that like, I you know, I get it, Like

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<v Speaker 2>for coaches. But let's just talk about like right or wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Why should a citizen not be able to just decide

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<v Speaker 2>where they want to go to school and play without

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<v Speaker 2>sitting out? Like there's just no, there's no there's no

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<v Speaker 2>reason for it to. It all just comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>because it makes it difficult. It's hectic. Coaches would have

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, it's just harder. Yeah, all that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>But we're talking about right or wrong. Why would a

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<v Speaker 2>able to just decide where they want to go to

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<v Speaker 2>just not knowing who to be angry at. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a certain way for so long, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was really again an archaic model, the amateurism model,

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<v Speaker 2>and it got body bag toe tagged, it's dead and

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<v Speaker 2>gone and everything is so different now. And as it

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<v Speaker 2>plays out here in the early stages, it is the

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<v Speaker 2>haves and have nots and fans really are helpless. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>if your school wants to be good and they want

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<v Speaker 2>to compete at a high level, they've got to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to get money. Easier said than done, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wish is they could just find an easy way,

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<v Speaker 2>but like you have to invest in a team, really

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a department that is just out there to raise funds.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why you have the collectives and they're important,

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<v Speaker 2>they matter. Like Louisville has a great collective. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>they are believed to have a really big bank roll

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<v Speaker 2>to go build a roster, or because Louisville. I think

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<v Speaker 2>what happened is Louisville prioritizes basketball in a major way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we've always known that, but I think, just just

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<v Speaker 2>a hunch, the reason you're seeing the report from A

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<v Speaker 2>three Sports that Louisville has apparently eight million dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>spend on their basketball roster is because I think everybody

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<v Speaker 2>saw in the last two years combined the last year

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<v Speaker 2>of Kenny, first year of Pat Kelcey. It's not that

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't know this, but we saw it firsthand. We

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<v Speaker 2>experienced it firsthand. Everything around here is not as good

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<v Speaker 2>and valuable business life like louis basketball needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>prioritized not only by the school but by the city.

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<v Speaker 2>So when Louisville basketball is good and it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>something people want to be a part of, want to

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<v Speaker 2>go to games, They want to go watch games at businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>at sports bars, that kind of stuff. Like I think

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<v Speaker 2>if there's I mean, I know football is always going

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<v Speaker 2>to matter a lot as well because it's the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>payday you get when you open up your stadium and

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<v Speaker 2>let fans come in. And obviously the TV deals with

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<v Speaker 2>the with the networks and the football like that's what

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<v Speaker 2>really pays the bills. But if there's ever like a

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<v Speaker 2>moment where Louisville Athletics or maybe the city as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as you know, those who want to give

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<v Speaker 2>money to NIL collectives to pay players because they want

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<v Speaker 2>to support and they want it to be good. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if we got down to where okay, you can only

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<v Speaker 2>you only got this money, and it's got to go here.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to go to basketball I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>football matters, trust me, I'm not trying to act like

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't. But this city's rare. Man, when Louisville basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you you couldn't go get a seat anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>last Thursday at noon in Louisville. And it's because Louisll

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<v Speaker 2>was playing, right, the tournament's always gonna have people coming

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<v Speaker 2>to watch it, but like it was different because Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>was back a part of it. And I just think

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<v Speaker 2>that you now know that, hey, you're gonna get what

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<v Speaker 2>you pay for in every aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're putting a new deal together together for Kelsey, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's because you got to keep him here because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to keep this rolling, and you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>round up money to pay these players to come here

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<v Speaker 2>because Louisville basketball it needs to be good for everything

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<v Speaker 2>else to work. I mean, you could still have success elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but like louis of basketball, we saw three years really

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<v Speaker 2>of it just being something we hope to never see

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<v Speaker 2>and then this year to kind of see that resurgence.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know we still didn't have sellouts and that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, but each game, the attendance grew, the energy,

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<v Speaker 2>grew and we made a huge, huge jump in year

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<v Speaker 2>one as far as getting back to where we want

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and I think that was evident. Therefore not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge shock to see that the money's there. I

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<v Speaker 2>do feel bad because I that, you know, like whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I seek fans complaining about college sports being terrible because

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, you got to have money. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta have money in every aspect of life. College

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<v Speaker 2>sports was the pure thing that I guess didn't involve

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<v Speaker 2>money that made it to where you could, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>escape reality of the real world. But now here we

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<v Speaker 2>are money matters. You got to pay to get players,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know some can and that sucks. Does it

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<v Speaker 2>mean to respond to the people with this Austin?

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<v Speaker 4>How the money off the poor people around?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that pretty cool?

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<v Speaker 4>It was great? I literally was just scrolling and saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, anyways, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side. If you are a sports better

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<v Speaker 2>I got to know what you would do with this

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<v Speaker 2>insane cash or hedge decision that one better has where

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of money that he could have right now,

417
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<v Speaker 2>but even more money if Duke wins the national championship.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about it on the other side right here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sportsbok seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely past the age where I think about liking

423
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<v Speaker 2>an artist based off of like is it cool to

424
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<v Speaker 2>like them or not? But is it cool to like

425
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<v Speaker 2>Post Malone, Because I, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Post he's cool. I think he's.

427
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<v Speaker 2>I think he's really talented, you know, really creative. I

428
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<v Speaker 2>feel like he could kind of just you know, he

429
00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 2>could get creative with any genre, any project, and it'll

430
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<v Speaker 2>probably it'll probably work.

431
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<v Speaker 3>Well.

432
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's really like I mean, I know it's probably overstated,

433
00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:12.480
<v Speaker 5>but he's just like a vibe.

434
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he's and he's been consistent as far as

435
00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I think, like, you know, he.

436
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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying.

437
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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's been famous for long enough to

438
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<v Speaker 2>where he's he's still uniquely his own person, you know

439
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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like he has you know, I think

440
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<v Speaker 2>when he initially popped on the scene with White iverson,

441
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure anybody would have predicted he'd be where

442
00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:35.200
<v Speaker 2>he is now and going in different directions. But I

443
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<v Speaker 2>remember this because it was a big deal. Do you

444
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<v Speaker 2>remember the and I'm sure they still do it, but

445
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<v Speaker 2>the freshman cover of the XXL magazine, Yeah.

446
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<v Speaker 4>Of course that So for those who don't follow every.

447
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<v Speaker 2>Year the XXL magazine, which is a hip hop magazine,

448
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<v Speaker 2>they have a freshman class to where they basically pick

449
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like six seven, maybe eight different you

450
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<v Speaker 2>know artists that have really you know, blown up that

451
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<v Speaker 2>year and kind of made their mark in that industry

452
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<v Speaker 2>and that genre. And he was He turned it down twice,

453
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<v Speaker 2>maybe three times, and it was because he didn't want

454
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<v Speaker 2>to any He just didn't want to be labeled. Honestly,

455
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<v Speaker 2>it was a smart move for him because it was

456
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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm sure he's still got criticism, and

457
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:17.359
<v Speaker 2>everybody gets criticism when you're that level of famous and

458
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<v Speaker 2>that successful, but it was something that stood out to

459
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<v Speaker 2>me is at that time it was a really big

460
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<v Speaker 2>deal in him turning it down. I didn't know was

461
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<v Speaker 2>he'd be in a snob but he just said, look,

462
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<v Speaker 2>appreciate the honor, but I don't want any I don't

463
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<v Speaker 2>want I want to do as much as I can

464
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<v Speaker 2>throughout my career as an artist to not be specifically

465
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<v Speaker 2>thought of in one in one genre, you know what

466
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<v Speaker 2>I mean. And you know he was, Yeah, he was

467
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<v Speaker 2>more popped than anything. But like and he's you know,

468
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<v Speaker 2>there's a there's there's some that have come from I

469
00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>guess his background where you know, he's not somebody who

470
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<v Speaker 2>has maybe the same story, the same background as a

471
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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who've become super successful in the world

472
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<v Speaker 2>of hip hop. But though in those people who you know,

473
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<v Speaker 2>I guess, maybe portray something that they're not in order

474
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<v Speaker 2>to really get big in that world. They're called culture

475
00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.279
<v Speaker 2>of culture vultures the stuff. For me to say, I

476
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<v Speaker 2>think he had a good radar for that to where

477
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<v Speaker 2>he was at all times going to not try to like,

478
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<v Speaker 2>you know, go there to where he could be accused

479
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<v Speaker 2>of just trying to maybe be something that he's not

480
00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>in order to you know, take over a certain industry

481
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<v Speaker 2>or something. But yeah, I mean again, I don't know

482
00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:22.359
<v Speaker 2>what's cool and what's not anymore. But I've always felt

483
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<v Speaker 2>like he's really talented. Yeah, and I'm a fan. He's

484
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<v Speaker 2>done the rock thing.

485
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<v Speaker 5>He did like a track with Ozzy Osbourne and my god,

486
00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:31.039
<v Speaker 5>he auto tune that one to death, cause you have

487
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<v Speaker 5>to with Ozzy oh gosh, like that one was still

488
00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.960
<v Speaker 5>a good song. And then obviously he's dipped in his

489
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<v Speaker 5>toe into the country music side. And I was actually

490
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<v Speaker 5>expecting him fro Bourbon and beyond this year because I

491
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<v Speaker 5>know that, you know, he's it's it's the new gimmick,

492
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:49.279
<v Speaker 5>right that he's doing. And he just released a country

493
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 5>album that maybe he would do some do some tours,

494
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 5>but he still hasn't. He's he's kind of like joining

495
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<v Speaker 5>people like Morgemall and and stuff, I mean post Alone

496
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<v Speaker 5>and Luke Combs. It and something that I knew I

497
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<v Speaker 5>needed until I got it, you know what I mean.

498
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love some Luke Combs too. See the

499
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<v Speaker 2>same here, same here, good stuff.

500
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<v Speaker 4>And you know post Malone's name is Austin.

501
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

502
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think it's like Austin Posts.

503
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<v Speaker 2>I knew that he he comes from a family, uh

504
00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and well, and I think it's just his dad, but

505
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>his dad has worked for the Dallas Cowboys for like decades.

506
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<v Speaker 2>Is like not a front office guy, like within the roster,

507
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.799
<v Speaker 2>but like I think he's like he's in charge of

508
00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>like the marketing ticket ticket stuff.

509
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<v Speaker 4>So that's pretty cool. Yeah, he explains his fandom.

510
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<v Speaker 2>I guess I remember being in of all places, I

511
00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 2>was in Phoenix, Arizona where you used to live, Arizona, Phoenix,

512
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<v Speaker 2>and I remember I was I was on a work trip.

513
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<v Speaker 2>This is so many years ago, and at the time,

514
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<v Speaker 2>SoundCloud had become a real big way for people to

515
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<v Speaker 2>show and it may still be. But he posted not

516
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<v Speaker 2>as big as it was White Iverson on SoundCloud like

517
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<v Speaker 2>maybe three weeks prior to me realizing what it was,

518
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and it had already blown up at the time, and

519
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I remember like, I don't know what this is, but

520
00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.880
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of awesome. And then sure enough, here he is.

521
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<v Speaker 2>He's insanely famous, all right, it's Coffee and Company fuel

522
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>by Thornton's. We're insanely famous too, maybe kind of no,

523
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>damn right, we are maybe trying to just transition and

524
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 2>where nobody would you know, nobody notice, but maybe we're not.

525
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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're not famous, but we're having fun again.

526
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.240
<v Speaker 2>We're fueled by Thornton's. That's we got that going for us.

527
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>So appreciate you hanging out. We got about twenty five

528
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:24.279
<v Speaker 2>minutes left here and I've never put together one of

529
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.480
<v Speaker 2>these wagers, but I want to it sounds fun where

530
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 2>you go through and you just decide to guess who's

531
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<v Speaker 2>gonna win the national championship in these college events as

532
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>well as pro you know, pro sports, Super Bowl, that

533
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. So there's somebody that has the ultimate

534
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:49.759
<v Speaker 2>cash out or ride scenario here. So this this guy

535
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>put five dollars on Tennessee to win the World Series.

536
00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:55.799
<v Speaker 4>That happened.

537
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<v Speaker 2>That was plus six fifty. He put in the same

538
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<v Speaker 2>pat Another leg here is the La Dodgers to win

539
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 2>the college or to win the World Series plus three hundred.

540
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>He got that Ohio State to win the national championship

541
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>in football plus four fifty. And then his fourth leg

542
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.799
<v Speaker 2>was the Philadelphia Eagles to win the Super Bowl. That

543
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 2>was plus sixteen hundred. So he has one leg left

544
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>on this parlay, and that is for Duke to win

545
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:24.160
<v Speaker 2>the national championship. That is plus eleven hundred. So that

546
00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 2>five dollars wager if he cash is out now, will

547
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 2>pay him fifty thousand dollars. Or he could let it

548
00:27:34.200 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>ride and make one hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars instead.

549
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 4>What would you do?

550
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Man?

551
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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's easy, but I want your thoughts first.

552
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's panicing right now.

553
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I'd easily cash out, easily cash yeah.

554
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<v Speaker 5>I mean you can't predict what the term because I

555
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 5>know that's you know how much you say was a

556
00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 5>bet again, I'm sorry he only bet five bucks?

557
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah? To cash out?

558
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because one, you're already getting an insane return on

559
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that investment, and again if if Duke wins it, you'd

560
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>get an even bigger one. But I would cash out

561
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 2>and really laugh at anybody who told me, like, let's

562
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.599
<v Speaker 2>say you cashed out and Duke did win, I would

563
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I would laugh at anybody who would try to clown

564
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 2>me for cashing out. Right, you know what I'm saying,

565
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>you're still fifty gs.

566
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 4>But and you could have lost it.

567
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you lost all of it, Like that's what it

568
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 2>comes down to.

569
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 4>And I know that.

570
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<v Speaker 2>You know we're talking about three times more when it

571
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, if it does, if you let it ride

572
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 2>and it hits, and that's great, or you could have

573
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>nothing like I'll tell you know, I will easily take

574
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 2>five dollars invested to get fifty grand and know that, like,

575
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe I could have got more. And I

576
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.759
<v Speaker 2>just don't even think if I lost. I'm sorry, let

577
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 2>me back up. I don't think even if I took

578
00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the cash out and then Duke won, I would feel

579
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>any way, because I just would know that I put

580
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 2>five dollars in and that was the right thing to do,

581
00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 2>and that risk to get nothing when you had fifty

582
00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>g sitting there off five dollars bet it's just a

583
00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:05.519
<v Speaker 2>no brainer, right, I.

584
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<v Speaker 5>Mean, imagine how terrible you'd feel afterwards letting it ride

585
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:12.359
<v Speaker 5>and then watching Duke like something happened. They fumble it

586
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 5>down the down up. Because the tournament's so hard to produce.

587
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, the best team often does not win, you know, right,

588
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 2>So I mean I would easily cash out, And I

589
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>say that probably a little bit more strongly than I

590
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>would have a year ago, because I I don't, you know,

591
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't bet a lot of money on anything,

592
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 2>right Like I now am betting more than I ever

593
00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 2>do because it's that time of year to where I'm

594
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna do my annual cash out once the college basketball

595
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>season comes to an end. So when I've only got

596
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, a certain amount left to bet on, I

597
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>find myself being a little bit more risky, not to

598
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the point where if I lose, I'm gonna have nothing

599
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>to take out at the end of the season. But

600
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.039
<v Speaker 2>I've had this year specifically that I could have cashed

601
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>out and I and I didn't, And more often than not,

602
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:04.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you were stupid, Like you know, yeah, you

603
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 2>could have got two hundred and fifty, but one hundred

604
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>and thirty was sitting right there, like it's just the

605
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 2>safer considering I'm placing such like, you know, twenty bucks

606
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 2>here or there. Like to me, it was just I

607
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>feel like I've been burned enough by bye bye. I've

608
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 2>been burned by being greedy and not realizing, hey, I

609
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>should just cash out and move on. And usually if

610
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I do cash out, I want to I'll try to

611
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>intentionally not find out what happened in the next one,

612
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>because it would be a bummer to know that that

613
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, you were weak and you didn't let it ride.

614
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 4>But I feel laser just so hard to hit exactly.

615
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 2>If you're ever on the fence about cashing out of

616
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.680
<v Speaker 2>parlay when you've got a leg left, that'll give you

617
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>more juice. Obviously, consider the numbers, and I don't have

618
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 2>them in front of me, but I'm sure you've heard them,

619
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and they're easy to find and that is that. I mean,

620
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 2>they're sucker bets right. The books love when you bet

621
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>parlays because it's free money more often than not to them.

622
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>So if you've already got them in a position to

623
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 2>where where they're cashing you out, where you're still making

624
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.319
<v Speaker 2>a really good return on what you bet initially, you've

625
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 2>already won. Like, if they're offering you a cash out,

626
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<v Speaker 2>you've already beat them. Yeah, because they're offering you you know,

627
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<v Speaker 2>they're allowing you to concede. Now, you could also bury

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<v Speaker 2>them if it's a real big payday at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>but the likelihood of that happening is insanely rare and

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned the hard way when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, think about it that way. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>bet ten bucks on a five leg parlay and you

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<v Speaker 2>got one leg riding or to completely cash, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>offering you, you know, one hundred bucks, and again it

635
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<v Speaker 2>all depends on what the odds were as far as

636
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<v Speaker 2>what you put together for your parlay. Just know you've

637
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<v Speaker 2>already beat them. And I feel like if you have

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<v Speaker 2>that mindset, you can you can cash out and not

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<v Speaker 2>look at it like I'm leaving money on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>They got me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they've already they're offered to you to cash out.

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<v Speaker 4>Is is them losing.

643
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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it is. And you know, sometimes it's

644
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<v Speaker 2>tougher to do because you want to stick it to

645
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<v Speaker 2>the books, right, you want to bury them. But there's

646
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<v Speaker 2>a reason why they do a lot better than us

647
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<v Speaker 2>in most instances. All right, real quick, before we get

648
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<v Speaker 2>to our last break, some breaking news here. This is

649
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<v Speaker 2>from a lot of folks, but I saw it here

650
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<v Speaker 2>from our news team overt News Radio eight forty whas

651
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<v Speaker 2>UFL's board of trustees. They planned to meet at five

652
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<v Speaker 2>o'clock tomorrow to discuss personnel matters. I would imagine that

653
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<v Speaker 2>this will be a new contract for Pat Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know that. I'm just guessing. Trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Sources or no information, but I would imagine that would

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<v Speaker 2>be That would be what it is. Quick break, we'll

658
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<v Speaker 2>come back and wrap it up on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>We were wrapping up the show here. Not a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time left, but don't forget you can always

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<v Speaker 2>find anything that you missed on the podcast. Find it

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<v Speaker 2>little of Men's clinic once again, Fellas, let them help you.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of ways they can help you, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that you don't even realize you need help.

670
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we shouldn't even look at it as help. Maybe

671
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<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, making life even better than it

672
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<v Speaker 2>already is for you. And again, everybody's situation is different.

673
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<v Speaker 2>But for me, I didn't realize what low testosterone even meant.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know what testosterone was, but never even

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<v Speaker 2>assumed that somebody, you know, as young as early to

676
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<v Speaker 2>mid thirties would be dealing with something like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's because I was ignorant to what it all is

678
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<v Speaker 2>and how it works. And there's so many that just assume, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not sixty, therefore I'm not seventy, so no

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<v Speaker 2>way I'm dealing with, you know, losing testosterone. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>very common you lose a certain amount of testosterone that

682
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<v Speaker 2>you produce every year when you get older, and it

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<v Speaker 2>can have an impact on you and some people just

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<v Speaker 2>chalk it up like I did. Well, that's just getting older. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but if your levels are where they need to be

686
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<v Speaker 2>for somebody in your age range, that could eliminate a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the things that you're dealing with that you're

688
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<v Speaker 2>just chalking up to.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's life.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting older, So go see them. Lul Men's clan

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<v Speaker 2>dot com favo two four four four four thousand is

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kevin Willard, he is apparently in the driver's seat

695
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<v Speaker 2>here to take the Villanova job if he wants it,

696
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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think he wants it, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he wants Maryland to know that they've got to they

698
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<v Speaker 2>gotta they got to get figured out to where he

699
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<v Speaker 2>has more resources for men's basketball or he will leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what I don't know is I mean I doubt

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<v Speaker 2>he'd do something, or he could do something to where

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<v Speaker 2>he would, like, you know, put himself in a position

703
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<v Speaker 2>to where he ruins his gig at Maryland, because like Villanova,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they don't wait around, like maybe they realize, Okay,

705
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<v Speaker 2>we get it, Kevin, You're you're in a spot here,

706
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<v Speaker 2>but we got to make a move. We got to

707
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<v Speaker 2>go build a roster we got to use the portal,

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe they hire Richard Pattino instead of Kevin Willard,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Kevin Willard. You know, Kevin, Kevin Willard has

710
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<v Speaker 2>has really Like if I was Villanova, I would do

711
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<v Speaker 2>my best right now to try to determine is he

712
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<v Speaker 2>really interested or is he just using us to potentially

713
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<v Speaker 2>get more from Rutgers or for Maryland. I'm sorry, but

714
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest. Maryland, Maryland doesn't he didn't have a

715
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<v Speaker 2>boss right now. Maryland's ad just left to take that

716
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<v Speaker 2>job at SMU. So this is just fascinating, at least

717
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<v Speaker 2>to me. Maybe it isn't to you. But there's an

718
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<v Speaker 2>interview Kevin Willard, did you know, just a couple of

719
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<v Speaker 2>days before he has to play Florida? Or he is

720
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<v Speaker 2>so bluntly speaking on things that a lot of coaches

721
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<v Speaker 2>say for private conversations, but he is, you know, he's

722
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<v Speaker 2>out in the open about it, and if anything, I

723
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<v Speaker 2>can just appreciate the transparency. Here's Kevin Willard earlier in

724
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<v Speaker 2>a radio interview in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>A really good women's program with a phenomenal lacrosse soccer program.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not him yet, you know, I don't want

727
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<v Speaker 3>to take basketball. You know, there's schools out there that

728
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<v Speaker 3>are going to be able to do things that we

729
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<v Speaker 3>can't do. So I don't I don't want I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want someone telling me, especially since I don't have an

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<v Speaker 3>athletic director. I don't want someone telling me that we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do it. I want to put in my contract.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want people making decisions about my program who

734
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<v Speaker 3>aren't involved in my program, that make decisions that affect

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<v Speaker 3>my staff life, my life, but doesn't affect their life.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are big ones for me because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I live it, breathe it every single day, and again,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I want I want this place to be

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<v Speaker 3>the best as you know, this fan base expects that,

740
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<v Speaker 3>but it you know, to be personally honest that hasn't

741
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<v Speaker 3>been treated that way for a long time, and my

742
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<v Speaker 3>goal is to get it there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think everything he said is reasonable. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>not something you hear coaches ever say publicly, especially when

745
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<v Speaker 2>they're you know, two days away from potentially moving on

746
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<v Speaker 2>to the Elite eight. But if you're Kevin Willard, like

747
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<v Speaker 2>let's read the room here, do you think Villanova is

748
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<v Speaker 2>in a better position than Maryland to give you what

749
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<v Speaker 2>you need like they're not. Maryland is in the Big ten.

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<v Speaker 2>That alone puts them in a different tax bracket. As

751
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<v Speaker 2>far as resources, now, what is the real kicker here

752
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<v Speaker 2>for him is that he's not only you know, he

753
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't just want to have conversations with people about what

754
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<v Speaker 2>he's going to get as far as resources for his program.

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<v Speaker 2>He wants it in the contract to where you know

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<v Speaker 2>they if they break it, you know he can leave

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<v Speaker 2>and no buyout. I mean, I don't know, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that happens elsewhere, but wouldn't be a

759
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<v Speaker 2>shock because there are coaches that have have complained about

760
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<v Speaker 2>I was told this would happen and it didn't, so

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt he leaves. I think he'll be Maryland's coach

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward, because let's be honest, Maryland's a good job

763
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<v Speaker 2>like Villanova. I mean, I don't know, we're in such

764
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<v Speaker 2>a weird world. We're a weird world now to where

765
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<v Speaker 2>Nova's got two championships in the last decade. But honestly,

766
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<v Speaker 2>money matters in a major way, and they don't have

767
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<v Speaker 2>that like Maryland does. And I just I think historically

768
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<v Speaker 2>Villanova's a better job, much better job, but Maryland I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that would be I mean, it would

770
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<v Speaker 2>be foolish to leave Maryland for Nova. But if he

771
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<v Speaker 2>thinks that what he's doing now is not sustainable, then

772
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<v Speaker 2>maybe it would make sense to jump because he feels like, Hey,

773
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<v Speaker 2>we had a good run here, but this I can't.

774
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<v Speaker 2>I can't keep this going because we don't have the resource.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have to help.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that'll do it for us. Appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out now. I'm gonna go watch the n I

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<v Speaker 2>T because I got that n I T fever. We

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<v Speaker 2>got Chattanooga Bradley tonight. We're taking Bradley minus three and

780
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<v Speaker 2>a half. How about little North Texas Oklahoma State.

781
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<v Speaker 4>What's the spread on that one?

782
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<v Speaker 2>North Texas plus one? I kind of like it.

783
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<v Speaker 4>What's that over under?

784
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<v Speaker 2>Like one thirty six and a half?

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<v Speaker 4>Give me under.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like Illinois State minus six and a half

787
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<v Speaker 2>against Incarnate Word. There you go, baby, who talks in

788
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<v Speaker 2>it like us?

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody?

790
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<v Speaker 5>I felt like I bet on a lot Earlier in

791
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<v Speaker 5>this basketball season. There were a few parlays that included

792
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<v Speaker 5>incarnate Word that I'm pretty sure that won me money.

793
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<v Speaker 2>So they're fresh in my brain, and that plus six

794
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<v Speaker 2>that stuff you remember, is it not. Yeah, they're plus

795
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<v Speaker 2>six and a half.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go, let's go incarnate word. Have a good night, everybody,