1 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:20,559 --> 00:00:24,079 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,960 Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,879 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,039 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, 6 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,759 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,159 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:43,759 --> 00:00:48,240 Our guest today is Congressman Tom Tiffany, representing Wisconsin's fighting 9 00:00:48,359 --> 00:00:53,039 seventh Congressional district and Republican candidate for governor the nation's 10 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:57,240 dairy land. We have much to discuss, shut down politics, 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,000 the Epstein files, the bluing of Wisconsin, and what's up 12 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:06,200 with those Green Bay packers. Congressman Tiffany, thank you so 13 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,239 much for joining us in this edition of the Federalist 14 00:01:08,359 --> 00:01:08,840 Radio Hour. 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: Matt happy to join you, and just for your listeners, 16 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,879 we go back aways, don't we, Matt. The lawfare that 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,079 is happening in the United States of America that people 18 00:01:19,159 --> 00:01:23,480 have seen we experience in Wisconsin well over a decade 19 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:27,280 ago with the John Doe and we got a trial 20 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,799 run of what happened nationally in Wisconsin. 21 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,879 Speaker 3: A while back. Yeah, we sure did. 22 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: Listeners of the show know that I have mentioned you 23 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,719 on many of an occasion when I have mentioned the 24 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:45,200 John Doe and I remember very distinctly talking to you 25 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,760 as President Trump was beginning his first term in office 26 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,920 in January of twenty seventeen, and you said, Matt, what 27 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,159 we have just seen with the John Doe investigations in 28 00:01:58,239 --> 00:02:03,599 Wisconsin are about to be writ large nationwide, and I 29 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,599 want to start there because the weaponization of justice is 30 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:14,479 exactly what happened, but not just in Washington, d C. 31 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:21,000 Not just against federal Republicans members of Congress as we 32 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,000 know now being spied upon, and certainly the brage of 33 00:02:26,199 --> 00:02:31,479 weaponization against President Trump. But it's back in Wisconsin again, 34 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:31,960 is it not. 35 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Yes, it is in a variety of ways. And I mean, 36 00:02:39,199 --> 00:02:40,879 I'll let you tick off a few of them. 37 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely so. But I think the one that comes 38 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,759 to mind is the very leftist Attorney General Josh Call 39 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,759 for the state of Wisconsin, a guy who used to 40 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,439 work in circles with Mark Elias. The Democrat fixer, as 41 00:02:58,479 --> 00:03:04,039 they call him, is lawfare tactics. But Josh Call as 42 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:10,159 you well know, is still holding on very stubbornly to 43 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:16,400 what I believe is an extremely abusive investigation against attorneys 44 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:23,280 who represented President Trump trying to protect his legal position 45 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,919 following some very suspect things that happened in the twenty 46 00:03:28,039 --> 00:03:31,800 twenty election. And now you have a great legal mind 47 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,599 and just an excellent person in Jim Troops, former Dane 48 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:41,000 County judge who served as an attorney. He is involved. 49 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,560 He is the subject of this hideous, politically driven witch hunt. 50 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Where have we seen this movie before? 51 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: Tom, Yeah, without Adell. And that case. 52 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: Came to light in twenty twenty four, and it was 53 00:03:54,879 --> 00:04:00,159 clearly done for political purposes, right. They wanted to highlight 54 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:04,719 something from twenty twenty and try to project that onto 55 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:07,960 the twenty twenty four elections to diminish President Trump. It 56 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,960 was all about defeating President Trump in Wisconsin, and of 57 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,319 course they failed at it. But they also did other 58 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,279 things besides the most high profile one of going after 59 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,040 attorney Jim troopis they went after the mayor of Warsaw 60 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:27,600 who removed an illegally situated ballot dropbox that was out 61 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,480 in front of city that was sitting out in front 62 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:32,680 of city Hall, and he has made it into a 63 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:38,879 major case which has been completely unnecessary. And so when 64 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,959 you talk about people creating chaos the attorney general in Wisconsin, 65 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,879 he's pretty good at it. 66 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants another term too. I hope the people 67 00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:50,439 of Wisconsin think hard about his previous two terms and 68 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,160 what he's doing right now with the weaponization of justice 69 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,120 as they go to the polls. 70 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:56,399 Speaker 2: And by the way, twenty twenty six, yeah, yeah, And 71 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,319 by the way, Matt, I mean, this is the same 72 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,839 guy who ran back in twenty eighteen saying that there 73 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:09,920 was this terrific backlog of rape kid cases that were 74 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:14,519 not completed and may have won the election on that issue, 75 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,639 and he's actually made it worse. He's not solved it. 76 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,000 So while he's off on these witch hunts with the 77 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,959 mayor of Warsaw or Jim troopis he hasn't solved the 78 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,680 problem that he ran on back in twenty eighteen. 79 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting Democrats promising to make things better and 80 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,800 then making them dramatically worse. The dumpster fires of cities 81 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,000 we've seen across this country led by the left, places 82 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:46,600 like Milwaukee, places like Chicago and Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland. 83 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,319 The list goes on and on and on. As we 84 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800 take a look at the state of things in Washington, 85 00:05:51,879 --> 00:05:54,959 d C. Today, I wanted to ask you about shut 86 00:05:54,959 --> 00:06:01,879 down politics. There is no doubt Americans clearly understand that 87 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,199 the Democrats were responsible for the longest shutdown in American history. 88 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:09,439 All of that said, do you think you think voters 89 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,519 will remember that come the twenty twenty sixth election. 90 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:15,639 Speaker 3: It's a really good question. 91 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: I mean, when you have almost half the voters of 92 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,000 in this country who get their news from sources that 93 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,680 do not give them the facts, that played purely on 94 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,120 politics and personality rather than the policy that. 95 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 3: Is best for the American people. 96 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:36,439 Speaker 2: You know, we're always skeptical whether we're going to be 97 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:38,759 able to break through with the truth because we have 98 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,160 to pay for it. The Democrats get it on the 99 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,800 nightly news every night for free. And so yeah, there's 100 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,480 a whole lot of work that we're going to have 101 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:50,759 to do in regards to that. But I think people 102 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:55,560 understand to a certain extent that Democrats caused this. I mean, 103 00:06:55,959 --> 00:06:59,439 I voted to keep the government open in September, I 104 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,319 voted in November to keep the government open, and so 105 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:06,439 we did our job. What I'm hoping is the silver 106 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,920 lining that came out of this. Chuck Schumber used the 107 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:14,879 predicate of the Obamacare subsidies as the reason to shut down, right, 108 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,160 he said, we have to have a bill passed in 109 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:22,480 regards to Obamacare subsidies in order for us to open 110 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,399 the government. And to the credit of our leadership, and 111 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:30,680 I give Speaker Mike Johnson and Majority Leader John Thune, 112 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,319 I give a lot of credit through this. They did 113 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:35,079 the right thing, and they stood firm, and I think 114 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:37,879 ultimately this is going to redound it to our favor 115 00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:41,959 and more importantly, to the American people's favor. But this 116 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:47,120 highlighted the failures of Obamacare, that it has not reduced 117 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,000 the cost of health care. In fact, for a family 118 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,439 of four, it's up about ten thousand dollars in the 119 00:07:51,519 --> 00:07:55,639 last fifteen years as a result of Obama's Cares failure. 120 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:57,439 Speaker 3: You're going to be able to keep your doctor. 121 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,639 Speaker 2: I hear all the time from friends, relatives, and constituents that, boy, 122 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,600 we have to wait longer and longer in order to 123 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,680 get an appointment with our doctor. So it's clear after 124 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 fifteen years it's failed, and we're going to get an 125 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,519 opportunity to make it better. And I think them highlighting 126 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,800 them being the Democrats highlighting the failures of Obamacare actually 127 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:24,920 could be a good thing for the country as a whole. 128 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Oh, it seems to have backfired on them to a 129 00:08:29,279 --> 00:08:32,320 great extent. Obviously they didn't get what they wanted. They 130 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,720 wanted to die on the hill of giving a half 131 00:08:34,879 --> 00:08:42,399 trillion dollars of Obamacare subsidies to people who were earning 132 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,679 you know, a high middle income level. You know, people 133 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:53,720 who certainly could afford insurance. This is all based on, 134 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,679 you know, the emergency that they created with the whole 135 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:04,600 COVID situation. And I don't know too many people who 136 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:12,000 think we should still have COVID assistance years after the 137 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:15,600 COVID emergency has passed. Do you think that that issue 138 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,600 translated with the American people. 139 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's been delivered one. 140 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be the additional the enhanced subsidies 141 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,399 came about during COVID. 142 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,799 Speaker 3: So COVID's over. 143 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: Why would we continue these enhanced subsidies and why would 144 00:09:33,639 --> 00:09:36,720 we continue enhance subsidies when they're going to people who 145 00:09:36,799 --> 00:09:40,159 in some cases make five hundred thousand dollars a year. 146 00:09:40,639 --> 00:09:43,799 Why in the world would you the taxpayer want to 147 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,039 or have to subsidize somebody like that. 148 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:49,759 Speaker 1: Or to illegal immigrants, which is another issue. 149 00:09:49,919 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: And then you have the illegal immigrants that were getting this. 150 00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:58,919 So it is clear that what they were trying to 151 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,919 do is bring system down and simply by simply by 152 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,840 breaking it. But they also did the thing where or 153 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,360 the fix to this, Matt is one of the keys 154 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,600 is to get to what they call enhance benefits. And 155 00:10:19,159 --> 00:10:22,879 the enhanced benefits are what are driving the cost of 156 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,440 health insurance at this point. So you got the health 157 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,080 insurance companies that are getting tens of billions of dollars 158 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:29,679 of subsidies. 159 00:10:29,759 --> 00:10:31,799 Speaker 3: Remember the same Democrats that. 160 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: Routinely at campaign time rip on the health insurance companies, 161 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,480 they're bailing them out. At this point, they're enriching the 162 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,559 health insurance companies while you have to pay more for 163 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,120 your health insurance. We can fix that by getting rid 164 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:49,159 of many of the mandates. For example, a pregnancy coverage 165 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,879 is mandated in any Obamacare policy. Well, if you're a 166 00:10:51,879 --> 00:10:53,639 twenty five year old male, why in the world would 167 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,639 you need pregnancy coverage, Or if you're a sixty five 168 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,320 year old female. Why would you need that you don't? 169 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,519 And what it does is it drives up the cost 170 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,200 of health insurance with these mandates, let's stop with that. 171 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,519 We've experienced high cost health insurance and high cost healthcare 172 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,679 with Obamacare. How about if we try low cost health care. 173 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: For a change, that would be nice. I mean, that's 174 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,360 a big issue in the big affordability question. That seemed 175 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,360 to be what was on the minds at least we 176 00:11:21,399 --> 00:11:26,519 see in a sample of the election earlier this month 177 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:31,440 in New Jersey and in Virginia. By the way, are 178 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:34,759 you at all concerned about the results from those deep 179 00:11:34,759 --> 00:11:39,559 blue states and how they may portend what happens in 180 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:40,759 twenty six midterms? 181 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,799 Speaker 2: You know, every election is an individual election. And are 182 00:11:45,799 --> 00:11:49,879 we concerned. We're always concerned, especially in Wisconsin. We are 183 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,360 always we have really tight races, so always concerned. But 184 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,600 we're going to have an opportunity in twenty twenty six 185 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,440 to be able to win, especially if we paint the 186 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:04,080 race with clear contrasts, because we see the Democrats and 187 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:09,480 where they stand and with their march towards socialism. If 188 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:12,759 we paint the clear contrast with them, we will be 189 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:13,759 able to win the election. 190 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,879 Speaker 1: Speaking of things that have backfired on Democrats, the shutdown 191 00:12:18,919 --> 00:12:23,039 being one of them, I think this Epstein file cause 192 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,000 celeb will be turn out to be and already has 193 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:33,639 a detriment to Democrats who have pushed this now, when 194 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,840 of course they did not push the release of these 195 00:12:36,879 --> 00:12:41,159 files during an opportunity which they had. The Justice Department 196 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,519 under Joe Biden had four years to do this. In fact, 197 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,440 you mentioned that as you voted for the release of 198 00:12:47,639 --> 00:12:53,159 the Epstein files through the Transparency Act, you said, regardless 199 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,480 of the issue, the American people deserve full transparency. Only 200 00:12:56,519 --> 00:13:01,960 through complete transparency can we restore trust in institutions. For 201 00:13:02,159 --> 00:13:05,879 years under President Biden, Democrats kept these files sealed, and 202 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:10,080 today I voted to release the Epstein files and give 203 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:15,559 the American people the sunlight they deserve. With all of 204 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,919 that said, where do you think this whole thing lands? 205 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,759 Because you know, you have both Houses of Congress that 206 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:23,919 have now voted for this. 207 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,279 Speaker 3: What's next? 208 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,919 Speaker 2: If I have to predict, the information is going to 209 00:13:28,919 --> 00:13:31,840 continue to come out that has been coming out, and 210 00:13:33,039 --> 00:13:35,039 I believe it's going to go away because it's not 211 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,039 going to go in the Democrats favor. I mean, remember 212 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,519 Epstein gave almost all of his political donations to Democrats. 213 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,240 There's a reason for that. 214 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:48,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so. 215 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,799 Speaker 2: The Democrats tried to turn this on President Trump, and 216 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,879 to a certain extent, they were a little bit successful. 217 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 3: In doing it. 218 00:13:57,799 --> 00:14:01,799 Speaker 2: But we're going to find out that Democrats are deeply embroiled. 219 00:14:01,799 --> 00:14:05,240 I mean, look at Representative Plasket. I mean, we're going 220 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:08,600 to find that they were the ones that were deeply 221 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:11,919 embroiled in this. And consequently, I think you're going to 222 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:15,360 see it become an afterthought in the not too distant future. 223 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:21,559 Speaker 1: Old Larry certainly regretting the release of the files. Larry Summers, 224 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:21,960 of course. 225 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, But Matt, Matt doesn't this highlight the American people 226 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,679 have always been suspicious of Washington, DC and just all 227 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,320 the stuff that goes on out here, you know, the swamp, 228 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:35,120 and I found that it's deeper and wider than even 229 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,360 what I expected. This confirms for the American people that 230 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:42,679 there's something seriously wrong out here. And that is why 231 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:45,559 I fight every day, First of all, for transparency. Like 232 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,519 you said, give the people information. I don't care who 233 00:14:48,559 --> 00:14:51,519 it affects, whatever, whoever was involved, just put the information 234 00:14:51,639 --> 00:14:54,279 out there. Let the American people see it. But it's 235 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,759 also why we have to take power away from Washington, 236 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,360 DC and return it to states and local governments, because 237 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:05,440 when Washington has too much power, it does it does 238 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,919 not serve the interests of the American people. 239 00:15:10,799 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: Have consumers lost the streaming wars? Who watched Out on 240 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:17,159 Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris helps 241 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,799 unpack the connection between politics and the economy and how 242 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,039 it affects your wallet. Prices for streaming services continues to rise, 243 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,200 but now they want to put all of the apps 244 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,039 back in one place. Would you rather go back to 245 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,759 the old days of basic cable? Whether it's happening in 246 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,200 DC or down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 247 00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:34,799 Speaker 3: Be informed. 248 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: Check out the Watch Dot on Wall Street podcast with 249 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Chris Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 250 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Our guest today is Congressman Tom Tiffany, representing Wisconsin's fighting 251 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,759 seventh Congressional district and Republican candidate for governor of the 252 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:58,639 nation's dairy land. All of that said, transparency, well, let's 253 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:01,799 face it, there was no transparency for years, and what 254 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,159 happened in the weaponization of justice nationally as we talked 255 00:16:05,159 --> 00:16:11,480 about before. What the Biden Justice Department and their henchmen 256 00:16:11,559 --> 00:16:16,480 have done to justice is absolutely and excusable. We're learning 257 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:20,320 more and more about things like arctic frost. We know 258 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,440 more and more about the Russia collusion hoax, all of 259 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,799 this stuff that we have seen play out over the 260 00:16:26,879 --> 00:16:30,159 last several years. We're getting much more information. And part 261 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:32,639 of that is the Judiciary Committee. You serve on the 262 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Juditiary Committee, what do you think about what has been 263 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,679 released so far and where do you see all of 264 00:16:42,679 --> 00:16:43,240 that going. 265 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: Well, this will be up to the Department of Justice. 266 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,720 Now that we've passed this bill, they have a timeline. 267 00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:53,879 I believe that they have to release all the information, 268 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,759 and I think that's important to do that. And by 269 00:16:56,799 --> 00:17:01,960 the way, they should protect a victim because there were 270 00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:07,000 quite a few victims in this old Epstein scenario, and 271 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:10,319 so it's important that they are protected. But otherwise just 272 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,000 provide it for the American people. We'll be following through 273 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:17,240 it as the Judiciary Committee if there is any stonewalling, 274 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,400 if there's any delays, and we will try to get 275 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,000 that information out because it is important to provide it 276 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:26,880 to the American people. But I'm really encouraged with what 277 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:32,000 the Department Justice and the FBI in particular has been 278 00:17:32,039 --> 00:17:32,920 doing here. 279 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,079 Speaker 3: To take. 280 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: Significant assets that the FBI has that they've been deploying 281 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,640 in Washington, d C. And they're putting them out in 282 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,480 the rest of America. So you had people like James 283 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:50,640 Comey who are consolidating power in Washington, D C. Turning 284 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:57,319 this into almost a praetorian guard for President Biden, and 285 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:03,839 Director Patel is now saying we are here to fight 286 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:09,000 crime around America, and I believe he's redeployed thousands of 287 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,519 FBI staff outside of Washington, d C. Now as it 288 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:14,000 should be. 289 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Do you think there will ever be any accountability for 290 00:18:18,759 --> 00:18:22,880 the James Comers of the world, the John Brennan's, the 291 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:29,920 Jim Clappers, all of the deep staters who quite frankly, 292 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,160 were involved in a soft coup of an administration for. 293 00:18:34,559 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: Years, Probably the greatest concern of conservatives is that they 294 00:18:39,759 --> 00:18:44,599 are not going to be held to account criminally for 295 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:48,960 what they did. I hope that happens, you know, our 296 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:51,640 experience is that it's probably not going to. I mean, 297 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,920 look at Hillary Clinton and what she did in breaking 298 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,920 the law and was really never held fully to account. 299 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,640 But there is also the thing of basically being shamed 300 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,839 of having your work as a career law enforcement person 301 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,000 like James Comy, having it be discredited in such a 302 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:20,000 fashion that may be the harshest That may be the 303 00:19:20,039 --> 00:19:23,279 harshest penalty that can be given to them, is that 304 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:27,519 they end up discredited in the history books. And if 305 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:32,240 that happens, then I believe there is some justice because 306 00:19:33,279 --> 00:19:38,000 I mentioned Hillary Clinton earlier and people, my conservative friends 307 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,319 will say to me, she was never held to account 308 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,000 for what she did in breaking the law, And I 309 00:19:43,079 --> 00:19:47,359 just say to them, you could not have put a 310 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,680 harsher penalty on Hillary Clinton than her losing the twenty 311 00:19:51,839 --> 00:19:54,240 sixteen election to Donald Trump. 312 00:19:54,759 --> 00:19:56,519 Speaker 3: She will go to her. 313 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,599 Speaker 2: Grave living with deep regret that she was not able 314 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,160 to win the presidency. And part of the reason she 315 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,000 didn't is because people knew they could not trust her. 316 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: She was a little bitter about that, wasn't She still 317 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:10,279 is a little bitter. 318 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,839 Speaker 1: Well, with all of that said, I point to something 319 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,839 you'd mentioned at the outset of the conversation, something you 320 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,079 and I had talked about many, many years ago. Gosh, 321 00:20:24,079 --> 00:20:28,319 it's hard to believe that coming up on fifteen plus 322 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,960 years that we saw in Wisconsin the infamous John Doe investigations. 323 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,559 And for those who are not familiar with what happened 324 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,240 in well early from twenty ten through twenty thirteen or 325 00:20:41,279 --> 00:20:48,079 twenty fourteen, you had a basically a star Chamber, a 326 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:55,480 prosecutors far left prosecutors in Milwaukee and Dane County, a 327 00:20:55,519 --> 00:21:02,920 prosecution that was partnered with aureocracy called the Government Accountability 328 00:21:03,039 --> 00:21:11,000 Borthhouse Orwellian is that they weren't holding government accountable. In fact, 329 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:17,519 they were conducting an investigation that involved raids, early morning 330 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,000 raids on people's homes, the confiscation of millions of documents, 331 00:21:23,079 --> 00:21:26,480 private possessions, all targeting conservatives that at the time were 332 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,079 allies of then Governor Scott Walker. I bring all of 333 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,920 this up because while the State Supreme Court did ultimately 334 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,119 find this investigation unconstitutional and a perfect storm of wrongs 335 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:46,039 committed against a number of Wisconsin residents, nobody was really 336 00:21:46,079 --> 00:21:49,000 ever held accountable for that. As you well know now, 337 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:52,559 you helped change the John Doe law in that case, 338 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:55,480 and I know your colleague in the Assembly at that time, 339 00:21:55,599 --> 00:22:00,319 Dave Craig and others were doing much to get rid 340 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:03,079 of the government accountability board. But in many cases, what 341 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:06,960 we've seen in Wisconsin is meet the new boss, same 342 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,279 as the old boss. You've been down this road before, 343 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,119 So accountability it is kind of hard to come by, 344 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:13,440 isn't it. 345 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, that was a true weaponization of justice 346 00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:21,799 when they went after conservatives who were just practicing their 347 00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:25,759 First Amendment rights of free speech, and they came in 348 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:28,519 and raided their homes and terrorized their children with pre 349 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:33,319 dawned swat raids. And it was a sad chapter in 350 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,599 Wisconsin political history. Hopefully we will never see it again. 351 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,440 It is the one regret that I have is that 352 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:45,279 a couple of the leaders of that process, not unlike 353 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,200 James Comy and Brennan and others who weaponized justice, that 354 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:54,359 they were not held fully account fully to account. But 355 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,839 at least we got the law change so it cannot 356 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,359 be used in the same way again. 357 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: Wisconsin is still a swing state, obviously a very important 358 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,799 swing state. Has it proved to be in twenty twenty four, 359 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:09,720 But it has bleed quite a bit. I think it's 360 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,839 still purple, but you know, there has been a certainly 361 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,440 a dynamic shift. You are running for governor, and boy, 362 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,279 my goodness, I'm looking at some of the press releases. 363 00:23:21,279 --> 00:23:24,640 The Democratic Party of Wisconsin sure is interested in you 364 00:23:24,759 --> 00:23:28,880 and all that you're doing these days. That must mean 365 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,519 something about this. But as you run for governor, how 366 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:40,240 do you bring back conservative leadership to Madison, which, of 367 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:45,400 course is just one of the most Marxist far left 368 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,160 cities in the country. It happens to also be the 369 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,839 capital of Wisconsin. Wisconsin common sense values. I'm a lifelong 370 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,319 resident of Wisconsin. I'm just an average Wisconsin guy. And 371 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,680 that's a message we're going to deliver, is that we 372 00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:04,480 are not crazy. We do not believe that there should 373 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,440 be sanctuary cities in Wisconsin. We don't think we should 374 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,839 have the highest energy prices, which we're headed towards in 375 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,559 the Upper Midwest. We do not believe that our education 376 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,400 system should be failing as it is currently with only 377 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,039 one in three fourth graders being able to read at 378 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:22,359 grade level. We do not think we should be in 379 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,319 the bottom ten states that for job creation because of 380 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,000 the incredible amount of We're a high tax state, but 381 00:24:31,039 --> 00:24:35,519 we're also a highly regulated state, and so people know 382 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,599 these things are wrong with our state. It's just providing 383 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,440 a vision. 384 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: For the people of state of Wisconsin that we can 385 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,000 do so much better because we have a choice in 386 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,480 twenty twenty six. Are we going to be the woken 387 00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:49,279 broke like Minnesota and Illinois? Is that who we want 388 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:52,400 to become Minnesota and Illinois? Or do we want to 389 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,599 be one of the prosperous states of America, Because that's 390 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,599 the choice states are making at this point. I choose 391 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,119 freedom opportunity, which leads to prosperity. And I think that 392 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,480 vision is going to carry the day because I'm going 393 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,720 to provide the leadership that will bring real results for 394 00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:11,400 the people of the state of Wisconsin with our in 395 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,079 line with our common sense values. And I think that's 396 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,279 what people are looking for and I can't wait to 397 00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:18,480 deliver the message through this campaign. 398 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,319 Speaker 1: Well, there's a national story coming out of Wisconsin I 399 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:27,279 think is important for all states. And you have commented 400 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:30,839 on this. You've raised some deep concerns about what's happening 401 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,400 in the public education sector, particularly as it relates to 402 00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:40,160 teachers who have been convicted of sexual assaults on children, 403 00:25:40,319 --> 00:25:47,519 on students and convicted of grooming students for those sexual abuses. 404 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:53,440 So many of those teachers, according to great investigative work 405 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,000 I'll tip my hat to the Liberal Capital Times. They 406 00:25:57,079 --> 00:25:59,599 did a great job and uncovering the story and looking 407 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,160 at the documents involved. But this is very concerning because ultimately, 408 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,720 at the end of the day, what the Department of 409 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:13,279 Public Instruction has done has been to allow these teachers 410 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,119 who have been involved in these crimes against children to 411 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,720 continue to teach. There's a question of accountability there. But 412 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:30,720 yet every four years you get the voters of Wisconsin 413 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:38,000 putting back these union liberal interest politicians running the Department 414 00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:41,480 of Public Instruction. As governor, what would you do to 415 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,160 change what is happening at that institution. 416 00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:48,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's really unusual in Wisconsin is the head 417 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,920 of the Department of Public Instruction, basically the Secretary of Education, 418 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,720 is a constitutional officer, so they get elected on the 419 00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:01,119 statewide ballot and it's given them a lot of authority. 420 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,680 But I think where the ability to get reform is 421 00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,200 with the state budget, because the state budget does lie 422 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,279 with the legislature and the governor, and I think that's 423 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,119 where you get the accountability, where you say, if you're 424 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,640 going to teach DEI, you're not going to get more 425 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,680 money if you're not going to set higher standards and 426 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,559 give parents honest report cards. 427 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: We're not going to give you more money. Now. 428 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: We are going to give money or more money to 429 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,559 good teachers in the classroom that are doing a good job. 430 00:27:31,599 --> 00:27:33,559 We're going to give more money to those schools that 431 00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:37,400 have administrators that are going to uphold the highest standards 432 00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,920 and are going to educate, not in doctrinate children. We're 433 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,920 going to give them more money. But we have to 434 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,359 have accountability. And that's going to be the key thing 435 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,160 that I will emphasize is we're going to have accountability 436 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,640 to the voters, and then you're going to get more 437 00:27:54,759 --> 00:27:58,599 money when you get results for the people of the 438 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,599 state of Wisconsin. 439 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,799 Speaker 1: Final question for you, what's going on with the Green 440 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,359 Bay Packers? Can any of it be solved by a 441 00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,920 cold lining googles. 442 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 3: Go pack goal? 443 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: And you know, it's just it's the middle of the season. 444 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you want to peek at the end. 445 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: And Christian Watson certainly gave us some high highlight reel 446 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,200 plays last weekend. If he can continue at that level 447 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,799 giving Jordan Love that type of target, the Packers will 448 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,759 have a real shot because clearly their defense is improved 449 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,799 this year. We get some offense, and we could be 450 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,559 dangerous in the playoffs. 451 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,519 Speaker 1: He knows it all in Wisconsin, Tom Tiffany, who's been 452 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,759 doing it for a long time as a state senator 453 00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:50,000 there for a long time, a congressman from the seventh 454 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,559 Congressional District, and now a candidate for governor for the 455 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,160 Badger's state. Sarah, thank you so much for joining us. 456 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,160 I do appreciate the perspective from the heartland. 457 00:29:02,359 --> 00:29:04,119 Speaker 3: Matt. It's always good to join you and keep up 458 00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:06,119 the good work at the Federalist. Thank you. 459 00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:11,359 Speaker 1: Thanks to our guest today, Congressman Tom Tiffany from Wisconsin's 460 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,960 fighting seventh Congressional District. You've been listening to another edition 461 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,160 of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittles, Senior Elections 462 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,480 correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be back soon with more. 463 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,359 Until then, stay lovers of freedom. I'm anxious for the fray. 464 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,799 Speaker 3: I hearn the fame, boy the reason, and then it 465 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,319 faded away.