WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.240 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:16.120 Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show tonight. 7 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:18.440 I'm Christy Burton Brown in for Dan since he is 8 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.719 in trial, and we're going to get right to the 9 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.359 phone lines as we start the show because the legislature 10 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.359 is in their second to last day here at the Capitol, 11 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:30.280 and I have State Representative Chris Richardson with me on 12 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:33.320 the line. Welcome Representative Richardson to the Dan Kapla Show. 13 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:35.920 Bike Christy, it's great to be here. 14 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.560 Yeah, thank you for stepping away for just a moment 15 00:00:38.640 --> 00:00:39.399 to join us. 16 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.119 I know there's been. 17 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:43.640 Some good and some bad things that have happened on 18 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:46.600 one of these last final days. I especially wanted to 19 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:48.920 ask you about the resolution that was going through the 20 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.880 House to bring a lawsuit against Tabor. 21 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:54.159 I think you have some news on that for us. 22 00:00:55.280 --> 00:01:00.000 Yes, actually this morning the sponsor of the measure actually 23 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.679 announced publicly that it would not be here heard this year, 24 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:05.760 so it is going to die on the calendar. It 25 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:10.760 would have been so much more wonderful if we brought 26 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:12.480 it to the floor and could vote it down. But 27 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:16.159 we'll take any when we can get. I mean, TABOR 28 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:20.560 has returned thirteen billion dollars to the taxpayers since it 29 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.040 was voted and put into place by the people in 30 00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:31.079 nineteen ninety two. It is probably the most popular measure 31 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.319 that we have seen it. Generally seventy percent of those 32 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:37.920 polled are in favor of it. We don't really know 33 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.680 what the other thirty percent are thinking about. The rest 34 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:43.319 of us like to keep our own money and make 35 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:47.200 our own decisions about how it's So it was a 36 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:48.959 good day to see this die. 37 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:51.480 Yeah, that is good. And for anyone who isn't to 38 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.560 where exactly what the lawsuit was there was. It was 39 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.400 a resolution because they kind of wanted to avoid the 40 00:01:55.439 --> 00:01:58.599 governor if the governor does support TABOR at least sometimes, 41 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:02.120 and they wanted to pass a resolution ordering the legislature 42 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:06.159 to file lawsuit against TABOR challenging its constitutionality even though 43 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.879 it's in the state constitution, and a previous similar lawsuit 44 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.960 challenging the federal constitutionality of our taxpayer's Bill of Rights 45 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.840 already lost in court after a ten year saga, but 46 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:18.759 yet some Democrats wanted to ring it back again. So 47 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:22.080 Representative Richardson, that is definitely good news. Is there any 48 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:26.400 other bills currently going through that you think people should 49 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:27.319 should know about? 50 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.000 Well, obviously, I think the one that most people are 51 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:36.199 paying attention to is thirteen twelve. Yes, the trans rights 52 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:39.000 bill that has come out of the Senate. Two Democrats 53 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:43.960 did vote against it. They amended it very heavily. It's 54 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:48.520 almost unrecognizable, but finally just as bad in other ways. 55 00:02:48.879 --> 00:02:52.479 That'll be coming to the floor shortly for us to 56 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:56.120 determine as a house whether we'll accept the Senate amendments, 57 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.840 go to conference, or demand that they returned to our 58 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:01.759 original version. 59 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:06.680 So, and because those amendments are new, Represent Richardson, I 60 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:08.439 don't know that most people are aware of what the 61 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:12.080 Senate did. I know that in committee they stripped out 62 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.199 the portion of the bill that took would have taken 63 00:03:14.199 --> 00:03:17.240 away parents' custody they didn't want to allow their child 64 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:19.039 to transition to transgender. 65 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:21.599 But what did they add in on the Senate floor. 66 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.000 They've replaced some sections of the bill with areas that 67 00:03:27.039 --> 00:03:30.879 allow people to change their gender on their licenses and 68 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:40.240 identification papers multiple times, to make changes to marriages, marriage licenses, 69 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:47.319 and civil union certificates, and replace that actual, permanent, historical 70 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:52.159 recorded record with no indication that it was altered, essentially 71 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:57.479 directing clerks to destroy original recorded documents and replace them 72 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:01.280 with ones that have been altered. But this changes things 73 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:05.719 like birth certificates, drivers licenses, I D. And this includes 74 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.319 identification documents for what they term people that are not 75 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:15.800 lawfully present essentially wow illegals. So it's another doubling down 76 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:20.920 on sanctuary within in this bill. It is a tapestry, 77 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:26.959 a bad tapestry they're leaving this year. Yes, that is those. 78 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.600 And did I see right that they could change I'm sorry, 79 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:32.639 did I see right? Did they get change the name 80 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:36.879 up to three times on a driver's license or certificate? 81 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:38.959 Yes, that is correct. 82 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:39.800 Okay, Well, with no. 83 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:41.319 Push faction in the government, they just have to let 84 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:42.800 them do it basically. 85 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.879 Yes, after that they'd have to get court permission to 86 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.079 do so. But wealthy asking those questions on the floor 87 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.560 today is to why three? Why not five? Why not ten? 88 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:53.639 Right? 89 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:56.040 They seem very random? 90 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.560 Well, I mean, it doesn't seem like a permanent change. 91 00:04:58.560 --> 00:04:59.920 If you're like, oh, I'll change it again, and change 92 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:01.240 it getting changed again. I mean, do you really know 93 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:03.279 your identity if that's the reason you're changing it, and 94 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:04.759 yet you want to do it that many times? It 95 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:07.759 seems like it opens the door for criminals to hide 96 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:08.399 their identity. 97 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:13.319 Actually, yes, and particularly concerning on those that aren't here lawfully, 98 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:16.519 so you get very specious documentation to start with, and 99 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:21.160 then your name, name, and sex changes could make it 100 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:24.360 very hard to track somebody that doesn't have a record 101 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:30.480 of a presence in the US. But the three times 102 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.959 change is kind of interesting when you pair this with 103 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:38.120 thirteen oh nine, that was the bill that requires that 104 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:44.680 gender affirming surgeries be covered freely in people's insurance. We 105 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.399 tried to amend it to support those that realized that 106 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.120 they had made an error and wanted to de transition 107 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:55.079 that was not allowed. Now we have documentation that you 108 00:05:55.120 --> 00:06:00.519 can you can change to and from several times, and 109 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.800 there's disconnects and even what they're doing. And you know, 110 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:08.439 with thirty two hours left in this legislative session, gladly 111 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:13.920 no more damage can be done. Midnight tomorrow. Okay, they're 112 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.519 moving too fast to keep track. Of their own bad bills. 113 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:17.720 I think at this point it. 114 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.879 Sounds like it. Do you expect it to go very 115 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:21.279 late tomorrow night in the session. 116 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:27.519 I believe it will. There's too much that hasn't been addressed, 117 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:30.480 and I believe the Majority Party will want to get 118 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:35.800 through as much of their own bills as possible. Again, 119 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:40.040 at least will not be dealing with a foolish attempt 120 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:45.439 to overturn the people's desires in terms of the taxpayer 121 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:48.800 bill rights. And I do want to thank everybody this 122 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.759 listening that reached out to legislators and put pressure on them, 123 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.920 on both on the Majority Party, to say, don't bring this. 124 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:04.040 They certainly realized it was popular. We took every opportunity 125 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:09.160 we could to ensure that the majority understood that trying 126 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:11.319 to take away taber would be a third rail that 127 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.920 they they've overstepped so much this year to start with, 128 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.600 in terms of our rights of self defense, our second 129 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:25.519 moment rights, pushing sort the illegal legally ahead of citizens 130 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:31.360 of Colorado, in terms of how we're using our text dollars, 131 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:37.439 stepping on printal rights initially and firmly with the original 132 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:42.079 version of thirteen twelve, and they didn't get it this year, 133 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.639 but it's a clear signal of the direction that they 134 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.480 want to continue moving in as long as they hold 135 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:49.240 the author. 136 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.000 Absolutely no, and it's very, very frightening to see all 137 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:54.519 the signals that come from them like, oh, well next year, 138 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:56.199 we're going to do that. Just keep chipping away at 139 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:59.000 it until they get more support to Gearritt of Tabor 140 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:02.040 to eliminate parents. That's right to do so many of 141 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:05.279 these things. So a representative Chris Richardson is who we're 142 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.040 talking to you right now. He's about to go back 143 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.040 to the floor and we have about a minute left 144 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.759 with you. Are there any updates people should know about 145 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:15.439 with the sanctuary state laws? I think the one specifically 146 00:08:15.439 --> 00:08:19.720 that would require local governments to completely not cooperate with 147 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:21.439 ICE or else face of fifty dollars. 148 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:27.560 Fine, yeah, that bill that come true? Is it only yesterday? 149 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:33.399 I believe? Okay, wow, to continue arguing against and proposed 150 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:36.879 changes that will go back to the Senate. There were 151 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.240 some and they passed it today. 152 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:41.360 Okay. 153 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:46.039 So they accepted the amendments that were made, and again 154 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:50.279 it isn't fortunate that hasn't been signed into law. But 155 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.559 the sanctuary laws that are already on the books generated 156 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:57.120 a lawsuit, yes again the state of Colorado, and this 157 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:02.320 just doubles down what was already there. So I believe 158 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:05.159 we are on a collision course with the federal government. 159 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:10.679 I was not surprise if federal funding is withheld. We've 160 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.720 been told as a state, all the states have been 161 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:17.639 told that there are expectations of the federal government and 162 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:21.840 that's not meant they will with old funding. And so 163 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.720 going down this dangerous path in many directions, whether it 164 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:35.519 support is the transgenderism, sanctuary, gun rights, these are all 165 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.399 triggers that we've been told. With the results and the 166 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.600 loss of federal funding we inserted in all those bills, 167 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.360 are attempted to amend all those bills to be rendered 168 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.360 in effective if they threatened federal dollars, those were all rejected, 169 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:55.799 and federal dollars are what support are a good portion 170 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.159 of the funding that goes into our highways, which are 171 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.039 not in good shape to start with, in the medicaid 172 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:06.279 which so many people rely on. So just placing ideology 173 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:10.159 ahead of the people of Colorado is a came full 174 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:14.440 and that's what's been happening. So I heard whispers of 175 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:18.080 a special session if we do lose funding. I don't 176 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.360 know if that will happen, but if federal funding is withheld, 177 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:25.440 the legislature will have to come back trying to get 178 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:29.960 a budget together this year with a one point two 179 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:33.480 billion dollars short pull at the outset. If we lose them, 180 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.480 up there another billion here or there. 181 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.720 A yeah, well, thank you, I have to go to 182 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:43.080 a break. 183 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:45.480 But Representative Chris Richardson, thank you for giving us that 184 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.200 important update on the day before the close of the session. 185 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:49.480 Here on the Dan Tapla Show. 186 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.759 And now back to the Dan Tamplass Show podcast. 187 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:55.679 You're back to the Dan Taplas Show. 188 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.360 I'm Christy Burton Brown and for Dan because he's in 189 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:02.039 trial and the legislature still in session through tonight and 190 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.559 then tomorrow until midnight. Then they have to be done 191 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.559 unless they end up calling a special session. There's some 192 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:10.279 rumors going around that they may call a special session 193 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:14.080 dependent on what the federal government decides to do. There's 194 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:16.840 some bills the federal government is considering dealing with Medicaid 195 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:20.679 and Medicare, and then Colorado suggesting that if they lose 196 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:24.200 federal spending or federal funds, they may go to a 197 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:24.879 special session. 198 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:26.840 To see how they can find more money. 199 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:29.799 Good luck with that, since the state is already in 200 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.559 a budget shortfall. Now, for anyone who on the liberal 201 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.480 side of the aisle who loves to claim that the 202 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.240 state just isn't getting enough money, here's what actually happened. 203 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:42.440 The state just doesn't get the increase in spending that 204 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:45.279 it wanted to get. It also put itself in a 205 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.399 budget shortfall because when extra federal funds were pouring in, 206 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.519 in part because of COVID, in part because of other reasons, 207 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.960 they committed to long lasting programs that they did not 208 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:57.519 have the full funding for, And now they're coming back 209 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:00.279 and saying, oh, we can't fund everything we committed to. Yeah, 210 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.480 that's kind of what happens when you don't budget according 211 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.799 to the money you actually have and can project on 212 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:07.960 the horizon. So for anyone on the liberal side the 213 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.200 al who wants to complain, they just don't know how 214 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:13.240 finances work. Also, of all the states, when we look 215 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:16.120 at Medicaid and Medicare and some considerations the federal government 216 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:18.480 is making, we see that Colorado is actually one of 217 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:21.639 the worst states when it comes to medicaid fraud and 218 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.240 medicaid waste. Congressman Gabe Evans has talked about this somewhat 219 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:28.360 in some news hits that he's done on social media 220 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:30.679 and expose that Colorado has been one of the top 221 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:35.720 states committing waste and fraud. We just had Representative Chris Richardson, 222 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:38.039 who's in his first year at the state legislature, on 223 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:40.559 with us in the last segment, and he was talking 224 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:43.120 about how it is highly likely that Colorado is going 225 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.639 to lose some form of federal funding. If you look 226 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:50.240 at collectively all the things that Colorado is doing basically 227 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.600 to defy the Trump administration. And this is outside the 228 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:57.519 category of medicaid waste and fraud, which is its own problem. 229 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:59.279 But if you look at all the ways Colorado is 230 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:01.960 basically saying to the Try administration, will do whatever we want, 231 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:04.480 and by the way, please send us money, Like that's 232 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:06.519 really not how it works. If you look at Phil Wiser, 233 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.159 the attorney general, who really is just on his campaign 234 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.279 for governor at this point, he's filed fifteen lawsuits already 235 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.879 in the first hundred days of the Trump administration. 236 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:17.519 It continues to file them. 237 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:19.840 I don't know what he's actually doing on behalf of 238 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:22.720 the state of Colorado. He's really running his own campaign 239 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:26.919 in defiance to the Trump administration. You see both the 240 00:13:26.919 --> 00:13:29.320 city of Denver and this state of Colorado as a 241 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.279 whole not only digging in their heels when it comes 242 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.240 to being a sanctuary state. You know, while out of 243 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:36.799 one side of their mouth they're like, oh, we're not 244 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:40.639 a sanctuary state. But then in actual law and in 245 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:45.440 actual new bills they propose they forbid all local governments 246 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.000 and all law enforcement from cooperating with ICE or the 247 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.639 Department of Homeland Security. Or according to the new bill 248 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:53.720 that is I believe about to get passed, local governments 249 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:57.639 would get fined fifty thousand dollars per time they decided 250 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.480 to cooperate with ICE or the Department of Homeland Security, 251 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.759 even if the cooperation was with a with ICE on 252 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.440 a violent criminal or repeat fellon. Like, that's not even 253 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.639 good enough for the state of Colorado. And yet Governor 254 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.200 Polis wants to say, oh, we're not a sanctuary state, 255 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.200 but they want to defy the Trump administration and say 256 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:16.360 we're going to pass these. 257 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:17.840 Laws send us money. Anyway. 258 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.559 We've already seen the Trump administration cut I believe was 259 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:23.480 twenty four million dollars to the city of Denver, because 260 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:27.240 they are proudly a sanctuary city, continue to impose those 261 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:31.440 policies despite the costs to their own citizens. And I 262 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:34.039 think that's what's interesting that Representative Richardson pointed out that 263 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.080 is true no matter what area you're looking at right now, 264 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:40.320 where Colorado wants to defy the federal administration is they 265 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.919 are not concerned with the well being of citizens in Colorado. 266 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.399 I'm gonna get to some statistics later on in this 267 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.879 show where I show you exactly how Colorado has fallen 268 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.679 in all of the important standings that people actually care 269 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:54.799 about when they try and make a state their home, 270 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.519 whether we're talking about the ability to own a house, 271 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:00.600 whether we're talking about the job market, whether talking about 272 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:03.480 the basic cost of living like buying your groceries or 273 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.960 the price of gas, where we're talking about how safe 274 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:08.559 a state is, how much crime is committed in different cities. 275 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.519 We've seen Colorado across the years fall in all of 276 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:15.360 these categories, and yet instead of trying to change life 277 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.679 in the right ways for their citizens, we see the 278 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:19.799 leaders of Colorado being like, you know what, We're going 279 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.279 to go to war against the Trump administration. Who cares 280 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:24.919 if that takes money away from our citizens. We want 281 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:28.200 to fund illegal immigrants, We want to give them money 282 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:30.559 to have housing here in Colorado. And if that makes 283 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.279 the federal government take money away from our citizens, we 284 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.559 don't care because we just want to defy them that badly. 285 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.559 Like that's literally what's. 286 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.600 Going on right now, and we will see how far 287 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.039 the federal government wants to push it. 288 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.399 I know they do have Colorado on their radar. 289 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.320 We all saw that late last week when the White 290 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.240 House announced that they were suing the state of Colorado 291 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:53.399 Governor Polis for being a sanctuary state. I of course 292 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:55.000 thought it was kind of funny that one of the 293 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:58.399 only responses in the media from Colorado was, well, we 294 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:01.360 actually aren't a sanctuary state. I'm pretty sure the Trump 295 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:03.679 administration can see the bills going through your legislature. I'm 296 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:05.519 pretty sure they can read the statutes that are on 297 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.000 the books and see that we are one of the 298 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:12.320 only states that forbids all law enforcement from cooperating with ICE, 299 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.360 and if they decide to cooperate with ICE, they will 300 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.120 be stripped from participation in the state data system. This 301 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.639 data system Colorado drives is what it's called. That's what 302 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:23.879 law enforcement officers use when they pull people over and 303 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:26.639 check their driver's license. So they basically set it up 304 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.480 where you cannot operate as a law enforcement agency in 305 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.000 the state of Colorado unless you sign an agreement to 306 00:16:32.840 --> 00:16:34.360 not cooperate with ice whatsoever. 307 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:35.919 But we're not a sanctuary state. 308 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:38.559 And that's just one of three laws that have already 309 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.240 been passed, in addition to this fourth one that is 310 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:43.720 almost certainly going to pass as well. I think it 311 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.440 remains to be seen why their governor Polls is actually 312 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.080 going to sign it, especially in the middle of this lawsuit. 313 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.399 This would just cement the fact that Colorado is a 314 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:53.879 sanctuary state. So I'm actually very interested to see if 315 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.639 he ends up signing the bill or not. If you 316 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.080 have thoughts or if there are any bills that you 317 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:01.240 want to know what's happening to them at the last 318 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.960 minute in the legislature today and tomorrow, you can call 319 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:05.440 into the show. We can talk about any bill you 320 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.720 want to talk about. You can also text a question. 321 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:09.839 I can probably get you an answer because I'm following 322 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.119 a lot of these bills myself in my work with 323 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.680 Advanced Colorado and just because I'm a political nerd. 324 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.119 So I follow these bills for fun, but you can. 325 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:20.039 Call anytime eight five to five for zero five eight 326 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:23.000 two five five. You can also text Dan to five 327 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:25.640 seven seven three nine. I see that we did get 328 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.079 a couple texts on what represented Richardson and I were 329 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:29.079 talking about in the last. 330 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:31.480 Segment the bill thirteen twelve. 331 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:34.839 How that bill was completely reworked in the Senate to 332 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:38.599 now allow people to change their name up to three 333 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:42.160 times on official documents, whether it be marriage certificates, birth certificates, 334 00:17:42.400 --> 00:17:45.920 driver's licenses. They specifically put a provision for illegal immigrants 335 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.200 to do that. A couple of people texting in saying, well, 336 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.039 you can change names, but if you're arrested, you can't 337 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:54.359 change fingerprints. Does this direct CBI to delete criminal history? 338 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.640 I don't think it does, but that's one of the problems. 339 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.640 How do you match up who you're actually looking for 340 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:02.160 If you're police, going after a criminal makes it so 341 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.279 much easier for criminals to conceal their identity. 342 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:06.599 That is a huge problem. I'm Christy Burton Brown. 343 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.599 You're here on the Dan Kapli show, calling over the 344 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.039 break eight five five four zero five eight two five five. 345 00:18:11.079 --> 00:18:13.440 When we come back, we'll talk about Tina Peters and 346 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.279 Donald Trump's trying to insert himself in that case. 347 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:23.720 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 348 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:25.680 Welcome back to The Dan Kaplich Show. 349 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:28.160 Out of Christy Burton Brown, I agree with a Texter 350 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.279 who just sent in a message saying it would be 351 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:32.640 interesting to see what happens if Trump would offer to 352 00:18:32.720 --> 00:18:36.960 reimburse any fifty thousand dollars fines for helping ICE. We 353 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:38.960 were talking about this bill that's still making its way 354 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:41.079 through the Colorida legislature in the final two days of 355 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.720 session ends tomorrow at midnight or sooner if the Dems 356 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.559 decide they're done before then. But this bill would basically 357 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:51.640 extend to Colorado sanctuary state status to all local governments, 358 00:18:51.720 --> 00:18:54.079 go beyond even law enforcement, who already has to comply 359 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.920 according to the state. But say, if any member of 360 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.799 a local government helps ICE or the Department of Homeland Security, 361 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.799 they can be fined fifty thousand dollars per incident. No 362 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.680 exceptions exist in this law in the latest version I've seen. 363 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.799 So even if you think, well, you know what, maybe 364 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:12.160 when we're dealing with this violent criminal over here, we 365 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:15.119 should maybe go ahead and help out Ice. Oh, you know, 366 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.119 there's this repeat fellon over here. Let's go ahead and 367 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.200 contact the Department of Homeland Security and give them the 368 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:21.920 information they want. You do that as a local government official, 369 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:26.559 member the judicial branch, a probation officer in Colorado. According 370 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.160 to this bill, if it passes, you be fined fifty 371 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:32.759 thousand dollars. So good point. What would the Trump administration 372 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.359 do if this passes? Will they take care of that 373 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:40.519 fine and go ahead and try and compel local governments 374 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.000 or encourage them the ones that want to cooperate anyway, 375 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:44.720 to go ahead and cooperate. 376 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:46.440 I'm really not sure. 377 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:49.720 I think they're going to just lean into the lawsuits 378 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:52.920 that they are filing against the state of Colorado, which 379 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.279 is specifically suing Colorado for being a sanctuary state the 380 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.519 laws we already have on the books, and basically saying 381 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.920 that Coloridle's laws are prev and taking the federal government 382 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.880 from doing their job and keeping the nation safe when 383 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:07.759 it comes to illegal immigration and crime and drug trafficking 384 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:08.680 issues in particular. 385 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:10.400 I don't know, to be. 386 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:12.440 Honest with you, that I think the lawsuit is going 387 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:17.240 to be successful, because you know, there's already been court 388 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:21.400 cases saying the federal government cannot compel states to help 389 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:24.400 them with a federal job or to do basically the 390 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:27.119 federal government's job. So it's definitely a different take on 391 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.319 it to say, well, kind of state actually passed laws 392 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:32.720 to prevent the federal government from doing its own job? 393 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:35.920 And can they get in the way, stand in the path, 394 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:38.039 so to speak, of the federal government trying to do 395 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.079 its duty to the nation, especially when those duties that 396 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:42.960 the federal government has to keep the nation safe from 397 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.400 illegal immigrants. In many ways, it's sort of like an 398 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:47.759 interstate commerce issue. Well that is actually nothing to do 399 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:50.799 with commerce. It's interstate lines. Like you see these illegal 400 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:54.599 immigrants who are criminals crossing state lines, leaving one state, 401 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.119