Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, welcome, I guess welcome back to God damn,
when did I think it's someone one of you guys?
Can you fact check when Peacemaker season one was? But
we are back with our Peacemaker reviews this time season two.
I am pour some honey on me, tressed now and
I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: I'm the barfighter kirklam Patzer and.
Speaker 3: The party to the field.
Speaker 1: Yes, laves and gentlemen, I got the date yet, any
confirmation date?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Moe sare So what is that? That's three years? It
seems a lot longer than that. I don't know why,
but yeah, so you can go, you can go back
if you want to and check those out.
Speaker 4: But here we are.
Speaker 1: We're reviewing Peacemaker as usual. What we're gonna do is
we're gonna give our overall thoughts into the non spoilers,
and then after the fact we will take an ad
break and then we'll get into full deep dive spoilers.
We'll be breaking it down if you like what we
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our biggest episode.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've tried to avoid anything from this movie other than
a few screenshots of ice Cube, but mister Pats, I'm
gonna throw you, you know, you've been a little Underweather's you've been
gone this week.
Speaker 4: So I'll throw it to you and we'll see if.
Speaker 1: You make it through the nonsplores, if you don't even
just bow out then, but give like a brief synopsis
in case anyone's new for just James Gunn's DC work.
We don't get his Marral work. But obviously Star Wars Squad,
that's whar we met Peacemaker. We got Peacemaker season one,
which obviously, again there's gonna be broad thoughts because those
reviews were three years ago. And then you can give
I don't know, like a like cliff notes of what
you feel about Superman, but yeah, what do you think
about was work? And then what do you think about
the debut of season two of Peacemaker.
Speaker 5: Here, I thought you were gonna ask me what I
what I think about him just as a person?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you think was tweets from a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, I know, my my James gun DCU experience.
I feel like it's been pretty positive for the most part.
I really really liked the Suicide Squad movie and Peacemaker
season one, although it wasn't like ten and ten for me.
I think a lot of the humor hit I really
enjoyed John Cena and just yeah, everything up, like just
the total vibe of what that first season was was.
Speaker 2: Really clicking for me.
Speaker 5: And then Superman very positive on so oh and then
can't forget Creature Commandos, which I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: Oh right, I forgot about that show that is James
got as well? Good catch there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, like I mean, unless I'm forgetting one,
I feel like all of those have been very positive
for me. So it's been, uh, it's pretty good. Been
a pretty good track record so far with the James
Gun DC for me Season two A Peacemaker. I didn't
have the most hype for this one leading up to it.
Speaker 2: I just feel like the the first.
Speaker 5: Teaser trailer or regular trailer, I can't remember which one
it was now regular trailer show the Multiverse stuff, which
I think you were kind of because I remember I
was high on that and you're like, uh, not so
much the Multiverse stuff.
Speaker 4: Just you weren't as high on the trailer as I
was at that time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think my my excitement kind of peaked with
that first teaser. Then, so when we got the first
trailer not as much. But I'm still looking forward to
the show as a whole. I am expecting to just
have a good time with the comedy and some good,
good music. I feel like a lot of the music
and season one it's not necess really my cup of tea.
Speaker 2: Or my bag, not necessarily.
Speaker 5: Not that I don't like the music, it's just not
necessarily stuff I listened to at my own day to day.
And even in this first episode, I feel like there's
a lot of new music that I, well, it's not
new music, new to me, music that I haven't really
heard before, and I was vibing with it, and yeah, overall,
I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it was a
pretty good setup of the season. I don't think it
was anything that blew me away. But I'm not like
worried I think going into this season because of this
first episode, which is definitely not where you'd want to
be on the first episode being worried.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 5: I think the humor, there wasn't any moments that really
had me like laughing out loud. I think there was
a couple like funny, little witty remarks that definitely made
me chuckle, But yeah, I don't know, I'm waiting for
the big belly laugh moments. But also, like the start
of the episode, it's not really super like comedic. I
feel like it's kind of heavy, dour area.
Speaker 4: A bad time, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: So yeah, No, overall I thought it was pretty pretty
solid and interesting what they ended up doing with some
continuity stuff and just yeah together, mister Field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, continuity wise interesting interesting. But yeah, I mean it's is.
Speaker 4: That a Matt Reeves interesting or interesting?
Speaker 3: No? I think interesting.
Speaker 4: No, James is like, this is how we can get
Robert in the DCU.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I wasn't super super excited with like the
idea of the season two kind of rolling into the
you know, foothills here. I like Creature Commandos enough, and
I like Superman a lot more than I thought I
was going to. But I mean season one. I enjoyed
Season one, but I thought, you know, I wasn't. I
didn't really have like a huge level of like, oh
yeah season two, like yeah, I can't wait, da da
da da. And I mean I'm expecting to kind of
get that hook later on, I'm sure, and as we
watched a little bit more, but it just again that
hook didn't exist for me in this episode necessarily. That
being said, I enjoyed it, and I think I was
maybe going in thinking like, oh, I'm going to get
like a bigger kind of dose of like that comedy
and like that action, all that kind of stuff. But
I think I was just kind of like my own
worst enemy when it came to watching it and thinking, Okay, yeah,
we're getting how'd you guys war that you didn't say
heart strings? But he's in a dire place right that.
That kind of caught me off guard because I thought
really going to be in a different I thought we're
going to be in a different kind of situation. But
it's you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: And the recap did you watch the recap?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Because I told you to. I feel like they
went over a lot of like really bad stuff that went.
Speaker 1: On for him last season, right like, like I feel
like killing you know, spoils for season one, three year
old show. I think, no matter what context, if you're
killing your dad, that's gonna probably leave a mark on
you for a little bit, you know.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we'll field look out to get you down. Taylor
ain't gonna be sad about for too long.
Speaker 4: J Jesus.
Speaker 3: No, I think I'd have to rewatch season one. I
felt like, yeah, I did mess him up a little bit,
but I thought that he kind of overcame it when
we got to the end of that season. But again,
I'll have to revisit that and see, because the recap
did a good job at kind of touching point on
that and implying like, Okay, no, he it is you
know dire, and you know that stuff does resonate as
it should with you, and and it's just kind of
that's a spoiler. I shouldn't say that, but no, I
just I just think I am my worst enemy when
it comes to this first episode, because I think I
had a pre existing expectation of what I was going
to be seeing in here, and I didn't get all
all of that that I was anticipating. Not that that's
a bad thing, I think it's still it was a
good episode and it really tackled a lot, and there
were some humorous moments that that made me laugh.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's it's a certain scenery too, that's just kind of
like it you chuckle at because it's just like, oh
my god, that's just that's funny. But uh, you know
one one sequence in particular, I don't know, it's just
it was weird. I don't know why. Too much for
the two PC. Yeah, it's too much. It's too much.
You know you.
Speaker 4: Are too PC.
Speaker 3: My wife had a bigger time with it than than
I adult because I was just like, oh wow, She's.
Speaker 1: Like, why I'm quoting.
Speaker 3: One next weekend?
Speaker 4: I got a perfect pitch for GVD next year after.
Speaker 3: But the words that she said was how how is
this legal on TV?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? You know what? Thank god you guys.
You can not join us for the four year reviews
that me and Kirkland are doing next year.
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna I'm gonna get through it. I
think I want to be there for it. I think
I should.
Speaker 4: I need enjoying.
Speaker 1: I think Taylor is gonna come in the scar man
if Madison's going, how does this stuff on Peacemaker, which
is comedic, how do you get away with that?
Speaker 4: This is uh, this is child's play compared to your
fury and that's not to be a pun or anything
like that.
Speaker 1: So m yeah, I have to see you okay, Yeah,
anything else that's it.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me and DC like the Marvel stuff,
I all love the DC stuff. I'm I'm pretty strong
for the most part. I think out of this, I'm like,
I'm the smallest in this room.
Speaker 4: I'm the least amount of a fan of Superman.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 4: I like it, but I did not enjoy it as
much as you guys.
Speaker 1: So there's that Suicide Squad, same thing where I didn't
enjoy it as much as I was hoping I liked it.
There I get like an eight, seven point five or ten.
Speaker 4: I think it was an.
Speaker 1: Eight, but I've actually never watched it twice and then
Creature Commandos I never finished. So I don't think any
things bad per se for the James Gun DC stuff.
But I've said this before where I think what I
did like about is Marvel stuff was James Gun would
kind of you know, you take the kind of formula
and very machine route sometimes the MCU and put his
own style tune, and I think that helped the MCU,
but I think they also reeled them in where suitside Squad,
But especially now you know co CEO of DC Studios,
there's nobody raining him in, especially this episode. There's no
raining them in, right. But I guess I should say
that Peacemaker was a surprise because I remember when the
announced after Suicide Squad, I like John Cena ended up
really liking that character, but I still thought, okay, what
are we doing the show?
Speaker 4: And I think that show I liked.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if I can say love
but really really enjoyed by tilling got the end of it.
So for this one, I was, I guess my hype
was I really liked that last trailer, so that got
me there. But because it has been three years, it
just felt like, man, we're it was almost non existent, right.
I wasn't like every day like a wins Peacemaker coming out.
It's not like when we get the Batman too, where
it's like, okay, it's been five years, but that's my
guy and that's what we want to seek before it's.
Speaker 4: Like okay, cool, we'll get more. And I think once
the episode started.
Speaker 1: Going, I'm like, Okay, I did miss this character in
this world specifically because again I like guns humor and
his gunisms in this type of stuff with the weird
old characters aside characters when it happens with super shit
and everything that's whe I'm like, eh, like it just
sometimes clashes. We're here like Peacemaker, star Lord, Perfect James,
Gun characters, you know, and this again. And that's funny
because reviews when they came out a couple of weeks ago,
say like, oh, it starts a little slow, but then
it picks up. If it starts slow and it picks up,
then this is great because I love this episode. Now
this is not like, oh, this is one of the
best episodes I've ever seen. No, but I just had
a really good time. I had some laughs in there.
I like where all the characters are. I said this
when we saw the trailer. But I like the arc
of Peacemaker has hit rock bottom and he wants to
do something different with his life. But because the way
he's it's like a cry wolf scenario, right, because the
way he's been acting for his whole time he's been Peacemaker.
No one trusts this guy, No one respects this guy,
no one likes this sk So that's this thing where
it's like, what do you do when you've done heroic
things but you've gone about it all the wrong way,
but you want the respect of a hero and that's
where I'm enjoying this, and then obviously there's some multiple
stuff that I'm very much enjoying. So yeah, this episode
just flew by, and I'm very excited for next week.
So for me, this was a strong start, like this is.
If this continues this quality, this will be my favorite
James Gunn kind of dc thing. And I will talk
about first thing and spoils, but how they changed and
got us into the DCU, I thought was pretty pretty perfect.
You know, for years of talking about it and think, oh,
what they're gonna do, we had to just a very
just smart, clever way, because there's another way they could
have done it, but this way they did it, I
was all bored. So yeah, no, I really enjoyed this episode.
So I'm happy peace Makers back and John. Everyone's good
in the show, but John seen it as a delight
as in this show, Man just this like somewhat lovable asshole,
like you do love him now, but he's just like
he's just such a piece of shit. And I think
it's because we all probably have friends at whether it's
now or at some point in life, we've had that
are like this, where not only in the most trustworthy guy,
but you're kind of always rooting for them. But yeah,
I very much enjoy this. So let's get into spoils
because there's lots to talk about. Do you guys have
anything else to talk about before.
Speaker 3: We get there?
Speaker 4: Nope?
Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll we're back, so we've not seen the show.
Then bow out, come back a little bit later, take
our first ad break, and we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: And we are back.
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get in that right off the hop.
First two minutes and thirty seconds they reveal what they're
gonna do. So one thing I caught on which Gun
has talked about this before. It's been a very confusing
thing to say, but I think showing it works better.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know about majority, but I'm gonna say majority
of people that watches probably don't really care. Right, They're
just gonna think of Peacemakers Season one, be like, yeah,
I guess that's like canon, what's happening with Superman? Right,
They're not gonna really dissect it. But for us the
fans and even like Gun said, oh, you know some
stuff that happened, and two says, go ahead and Peacemakers
can and some stuff is not, and that's very confusing
when hear it that way. But then they do it
previously on But what they did is they did not
do previously on Peacemaker. They did previously on the DCU,
which I thought was very smart because it's showing, Okay,
in this next two and a half minutes, the stuff
you're seeing, that's the stuff that's cannon from that show.
Everything else throw away or me, they'll mention it, but
that's the stuff. It's like, Okay, that's really smart. And
they hit and all the beats with him being a loser,
his dad trying to you know, the Waller stuff, all
the big beats from that show is still playing on
a work.
Speaker 4: But then we get near the end of that and
it's I.
Speaker 1: Can't remember the girl's name, but Wallers darters on the
phone and says like, oh, someone should call the Justice Gang.
I thought, oh, like that's a fun clever like just
adr get in there. And then we get the scene
if you don't remember season one, Chris saves the world
and he's walking out and he has hardcore and then
you know, calls the Justegue bunch of fuckers right, same
thing happens, call him a bunch of fuckers. But when
the camera flips this time, all the Snyder Verse people
are gone. They've reshot the scene and it's a fucking
Justice Gang with Superman and Supergirl, which was fucking that's
a Superman is like, I guess he could be here.
He's kind of friends the Justice Gang. But I think
Supergirl there is very interesting. And you know what's great
before with Peacemaker when he did in season one, it's like, well,
what's ever gonna come with this? Right, he's just James Gunn.
He's making a project the Good Thing now. And there's
other stuff in this episode. I have in my notes
for Cannon stuff that now that's fucking James Gunn, the
like runner of all this. We know, like, oh, Supergirl
being here might actually mean something in the future. It's
not just like an old DCU or DCU where it's
just like a they're throwing shit at the wall and
we'll see what sticks, you know.
Speaker 4: So I absolutely love that.
Speaker 1: I think I liked it more than them just being
like goetting into the show and then be like, hey
remember that time with the Justice Gang and then they
went back.
Speaker 4: I'm actually like that.
Speaker 1: I just went literally on the recap, so says Superman, Supergirl,
where's the dog? I feel like you wouldn't want to
bring them on that mission yet maybe and we don't
know what was the timeline, right, so maybe Crypto's somewhere else,
Maybe Crypto's dead or it wasn't found at that point,
not Daggs's in the past. But uh, Kirka, what did
you feel about the uh getting us into the Peacemaker
into the DCU?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, no, I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 5: I kind of had to do a rewind and like,
like halfway through, I had to restart it because I
I just felt like I was being gas lit by
by James gun here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that is not how that scene went.
Speaker 5: And I like especially but when it went to just
the silhouettes of the Justice Gang, like the Hawk Hawk
Girl was the first one that stood at me.
Speaker 2: And that's what I had to rewind because I'm like,
it'sn't like gal supposed to be.
Speaker 4: Era.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I I thought.
Speaker 5: It was a really fun and clever way of doing it, especially,
like you said, just having Peacemaker narrating of like previously
on the DCU and then it's like, oh, okay, this
is just what we're playing with here, and fuck the
guy that's run that the captain of the ship is
the one making the call, so I guess we can
actually believe this. I actually didn't even notice Supergirl. I
tell you mentioned it just now. I didn't pause on
that frame of inspecting all that's pretty cool. Yeah, no,
I'm I'm pretty pretty content with the way that that
was done.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny too, is because the there's
gonna be a huge percentage of you that watched that
that aren't in the know that just the gaslight will work.
They'll watch them, right, That's what happened they because it
even not even the silhouettes. They had scenes of Guy
Gardner and Hawk Girl talking, you know, so it's like, yeah,
it's uh, it's interesting. But Taylor, Yeah, what did you
think about how we got in the DCU here at
the Peacemaker?
Speaker 3: It was super super sly and subtle. I mean, I'm
at the same point you guys were, where it's like
what and you focus on Howkgirl's wings. That's the main thing.
I did not even realize Supergirl was there because I
was just like like like a hot girl and then yeah, Superman,
and it quickly cut like a close up of hot
girl and guy Gardner there. I was like, oh, okay,
that's uh, that's that works.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even think Supergirl is doing like
Earth superhero stuff yet, you know, like now she is,
so I imagine the candle referred that. I would have
thought she's just in space right now, but I guess she's.
She's helped him a couple of times.
Speaker 4: At least. I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to see that that crossover here where Lex
gets pissed off about Superlas. I feel like I've only
ever seen Lex, at least in my interaction with DC,
ever get pissed about Clark Kent Superman. I want to
see how he feels about Oh my god, there's another Yeah,
there's another one. There's a there's a Supergirl. Oh my god.
I want to see that kind.
Speaker 1: Of No, he's got uneasy feelings about Supergirl. He's like, oh,
there's a Supergirl. What's going on there?
Speaker 3: You know, like attracted to her?
Speaker 4: Yeah? What else? What other? So if Superman told me
is hate, what do you think I would be inferring there?
Speaker 1: What? Ell?
Speaker 4: What else? When I hear those.
Speaker 3: Spiite jealousy.
Speaker 1: I think those are all still in the same category.
That's what he's feeling with Superman here. But I will
bring it up because I do have it over here
that dc U has been rewritten. Here's the scene right here,
comparison of the two. Yeah, but there they are, so yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Looks so funny like in hindsight.
Speaker 4: No, we know now absolutely right, the fact that this
has even happened. But uh yeah, no, so that's it
right there?
Speaker 1: That is a where's there's there's the the change even
got fucking mister terrific on the left flowing in his
fucking stupid chair, you know. But uh yeah, so there
you go. It's uh, it's gone RP. You know, Snyder
Versus and stuff. Taylor didn't tune in John Cryer as
Lex and super Girl.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think you've. Did you watch any CW STID.
Speaker 3: I knew John Cryer was Lex, but I did not
know he popped up in super Girl. I just remember
seeing like the odd scenes of him dealing with Superman.
Speaker 1: He's that well because there is no super well, okay,
there eventually was a Superman show, but they did Supergirl first.
And then they did Superman Lowis say, like Backdoor Pied,
so Lex was there. It's it's tricky though because actually
John Carr wasn't his Lex because when they did Superman Lowis,
even though it was the same actor from Supergirl that
took place on a different earth, the CW had some
also weird multi version and again stuff going on. But yeah,
so no, we'll see what happens. But yeah, very fun ways.
So then we get into it. We get that scene
that we saw in the trailers, Peacemaker, he's going for audition.
This is a lot longer we saw White Rabbit come out.
Obviously her audition didn't go well. This is definitely where
it's like, man, we are in the this and obviously
the party scene, but it's like this is we're in
the James gun universe when you got Sean Gunn making
jokes about cameltoe and they're saying like they're like, oh,
what's your skills, Chris and the Mune and then guys
like yeah, other than giving blowies, the dudes you know
like like that, and like because I showed Emily the
party scene and that's where it's like you got to
give them credit, even though Peacemaker existed. Now studios this
is where it's gonna be interesting that you know, I'm
I think we're all pretty certain David Corn.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna have a cameo on the show.
Speaker 1: And to have a one where it's like a couple
of months ago Superman started the DCU very hopeful, very
kid and friendly oriented. This one like we'll get to there,
but massive dicks, a bunch of sex going on drugs, cocaine,
and it's like right off the bat, it's not like
the mce whar. It's like, oh, a couple of projects
in they started to try and get a little darker,
and even then it took till Dead People over to
get the rad R. This is the second project in
and of like, hey, you know, even though you're like Superman,
here's a bunch of dick swinging around. But yeah, we
get this scene and I I really enjoyed pretty much everything.
This Scene's why it's funny with people. So they didn't
get much laughs in this episode. I got lots of
last year. I wasn't like scene, the interview scene, the
oorgy scene. I got that got a chuckle out of
me for two reasons. One because it's funny. But at
one point Tay I thought he's gonna have to watch
this episode his mom. So I was just laughing because
I knew the scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah so I had I had heard.
Speaker 1: I had heard there was a big sex scene in
this season and I'll please be episode one and it wasn't.
But uh no, I really liked the interview scene. And
like we saw in the preview that they did not
accept him, but I like that he walked away. I
liked that they didn't kick him out. He walked away,
so you never know, maybe he could have full loosed
his way in.
Speaker 4: But yeah, what do you guys think about some of
that opening there?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we will get that part Mike after But
go ahead, Kirkland or Taylor, which do you want.
Speaker 2: With the interview sequence? Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I didn't find it the funniest out of
the scenes.
Speaker 2: For me, I feel like the.
Speaker 5: Humor is sick with the with the I am sick
is an asterisk to go with my feelings. But I
would say the humor peaked with the blow job line
by Green Lantern there, but it just it just kept
going with the like the unmutedness of the nature.
Speaker 4: He's maybe a bit long. I'll give you that joke.
Speaker 5: Just didn't fully work for me. But yeah, I don't know.
I don't really have much more to add on that.
Speaker 4: The editions or salad.
Speaker 3: I mean it was, Yeah, the interview was. I chuckled
at some points, but I didn't think it was as
funny as it could have been. But there is enough
to make me laugh. I thought it was funny after
the fact when he got to the car with the
girl and he's like, uh, he said like, I'm good
sucking dick, which is that's a compliment, that's not even
an insult.
Speaker 2: Guy.
Speaker 3: That kind of made me laugh. But yeah, I I
don't know. There wasn't a lot in there that just
really really made me chuckle. I was excited to see
Guy Gardner and Hawk Girl pop back in there. I
thought that was that was fun with Maxwell Lord that
was pretty cool too.
Speaker 1: They're definitely not to me mean, but I feel like
they're like the cheapest of the Justice Gang because we
you know, they're in Superman, they're popping up in the
DC recap, they're popping up here. It feels like or
they just had more open schedule. You know, you're not
getting not getting corn sweat. You're not getting mister Terrific.
You're not getting you know, Lowist or anybody. But you know,
these two keep up, which is fine because Isabelle didn't
really have much to do in Superman, right, so it's
nice that she kind of pops around everything. So yeah,
I did like that before the car ride when he's
talking about the Justice Gang and he's like, oh, fucking
fucking meta humans and it's oh, you don't really get
a lot of them.
Speaker 4: He's listening off all this stuff.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite line was when hero seem Me says, hey,
Jersey Shore called wants its hair back. He's like, as
if TV shows can't call you, but he lists like
all these remarks and he's like, yeah, I don't I
don't really remember any of them. I just know they've
said a few, but he like listed off like five
or six things like I don't really pay attention.
Speaker 4: So it's great because like, even what they do is Superman, right.
Speaker 1: He was commenting on Superman and here he is playing
off like I don't really care what meta humans think
about me, and then he lists five to six things
of what they think about him. So I enjoy all
that but uh yeah, I's supposed to been. So can
you imagine some family loving Superman tune in here without
watching season one to learn more about the DCU.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, it's a bold start.
Speaker 1: And I don't think they did hit over the head
of like viewer disc Like I didn't get no viewer
discretion advising I tuned in, So I feel like they
did not hit hard enough of like, hey, if you
like Superman, don't watch. They couldn't even have peacemakers like
a PSA like if you're under this age might be
a little risky.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we forgot about this. My bad u.
Speaker 1: Mike says, how do you guys feel about the intro
dance compared to season one? Because obviously that was a
massive thing, right where we say we're gonna peacemaker do
you want to taste it?
Speaker 4: Plays?
Speaker 1: And they have this whole dance number which was a
big meme and that song got very popular. So now
they decide, okay, we're not gonna reuse a song, We're
not gonna use the dance. We're gonna got a new song,
new dancers, new cast members. I'll say I'll have to
sit on it as of right, now nowhere near season one.
Season one at least, I guess did have that benefact of,
like I said, the shock value, we didn't know it
was coming. But even the song choice for me is
better this one, same thing, almost like the interrogation scene
feels like it goes on like a little too long.
I know there is a lot of characters, but yeah,
off the hop. I I was already missing the season
one dance, so maybe that'll change next week.
Speaker 4: But I felt it was a step down in my opinion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe a little bit of a step down, not
that much. I can definitely see it potentially growing on
me as the weeks go on. I did enjoy it,
and I did like the song, but I think, like
what you said, just the shock value of getting the
first one for the first season a little bit more
memorable there. But I've also seen that one a lot
more than just the first one, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we stepped down, for sure. I like that
first song a lot more this one.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I got excited when it popped up and I was thinking, okay, cool,
we're gonna give O their original intro here. And there
was some fun moves and whatnot, but just it was
a little bit more slower. I liked just the Yeah,
the magic of that first one definitely encapsulated a little
bit more.
Speaker 5: I got so excited just seeing Tim Meadows in that intro.
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot that he's rights and I can't
wait for his character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm excited when we get there. So
let's see, they should have get the same dance song
and just read on the dance and new characters.
Speaker 4: I agree. I think this song. To me, the song
was the weirdest part because to me, that was like
the theme song of the show. So to do a
whole new song, I didn't understand that. So I guess
if we get more seasons, this will happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe they could do a throwback in season
three goes back to that.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so at the other end.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll kind of put this all together
because I don't have much on Hardcourt. We'll talk about
her with Peacemaker. We see what's going with her. She's
getting some sort of valuation. Still a line of like
from the trailer of the smash cut of like, oh
it looks like you have like your toxic male syndrome
or what I can't remember the turn toxic masculinity, talks
mascilinity and just because they're like what like and she
explains that, but then they kind of go over the
fact that because they turn their backs on wall or
she's kind of black ball and I'm not letting them
get government jobs and.
Speaker 4: Using their skills.
Speaker 1: So she you know, if Chris is going through the
like depression of what happened last season, she's going.
Speaker 4: Through the anger. If they're doing the five steps, they're
on different steps. Right now. She beat the shit o her.
Speaker 1: Car knuckle just blood and everything like that. She gets
back nice, we'll see a peacemaker.
Speaker 4: He's waiting there for her. They have a conversation.
Speaker 1: We found out that they have had sexual relations with
each other just a couple of nights ago. And I
did like that of like this some one you want
to talk about, No, something you want to talk about,
Like I actually really enjoy like, like I said, he's
depressed and she's mad, but I do really enjoy that.
In many aspects, they are like the same character, but
like a male and female version. So they can't deal
with something because sometimes you just have like, oh, there's
a loud person a quiet person, someone likes to you know,
digging deep, and someone that likes maybe respond, but they're
very much they're not in touch with their feelings and
they they're trying to not to appear to be the
weaker one to have feelings for one another.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what happens.
Speaker 1: Chris eventually does speak about that, but she kind of,
I don't know, throws into his face a little like
it was nothing, meant nothing. You know, it was a
fun time but kind of a mistake, and they like, yeah,
fuck whatever. And then I'll say that gets to him
to his party, and then later on the only other hardcourt.
Speaker 4: Stuff we get it.
Speaker 1: She goes to a bar and gets in a bar fight,
so she kind of has like a you know, a
I won't say death wish, but on that sort of
sense that she's just looking to get beat up, get
into trouble, and she has really no guiding light right now.
Speaker 5: So she's got some destructive tendency is going on right now.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, yeah, still jacks ever too, and she's punching
the car and the guys just guns for days.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, she's got guns for days, but also
the arm guns for days as well.
Speaker 2: So n g u n n gun.
Speaker 5: Yeah for days a triple triple pun there. Yeah, I
I really like their scene together. I'm excited to kind
of just keep going down that route of of what
that kinship or whatever will will blossom to be. Just
speaking to the John Cena character being like the lovable
idiot in that scene when they're just going back and
forth and she's like, oh, yeah, like let's just call
it what it was a mistake. He's like what or
what just to say? What else could you call? He's
like good and just like John Cena's face like you
just delivered that line so.
Speaker 4: Like a lost poppy. Yeah, that's what he does.
Speaker 5: And I was one scene that like really made me
crack up, and it's just all because of his uh,
just mannerisms in that scene.
Speaker 2: He's just so.
Speaker 5: Good at that, like like he just doesn't fully I
don't know, the social cues or whatever, it just doesn't
fully click. So I really like that those traits of
that character. But yeah, really interesting to see what's gonna
be happening with Harcourt. Obviously she's been kind of betrayed
by her own government. I think it was a job
interview that she was doing with like NSA at the
beginning there, and she just can't get a job anywhere.
So where is that gonna lead her? Probably just working
with Chris and doing.
Speaker 2: Whatever she has to survive.
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I'm I like, at least how we
picked up the pieces from season one?
Speaker 4: Where does she somehow get a job with Flag and Argust?
Speaker 1: I wonder because they're kind of established them as like
our shield in the sense, right, And I feel like
that's a way where she can kind of get in
the crux of stuff because I get I guess we
just don't know, right. We'll talk about the end of
the of this episode later, but if Chris spends a
lot of this season in the multiverse thing, it's I
don't think he's going on jobs in this.
Speaker 4: Universe, right, I guess he's over there doing stuff.
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't even know what she's gonna
be doing that other than I'm sure he gets in
a pickle and she busts him out, you.
Speaker 5: Know, so or she betrays him and that's another.
Speaker 1: That's how she gets a Argist job too, right, Because
Rick Flagg's obviously we'll talk about him making a high
priority to uh take a look on mister Sena there.
But Tay, what do you think about Hardcourt's you know,
beginning of her journey here.
Speaker 3: I always found their their relationship or their friendship, I
guess in the first season to be uh, you know,
it was engaging and interesting and I just kind of
was leading down this path like, Okay, you know there's
tension there. You know it's gonna lead somewhere.
Speaker 4: Especially the dance number.
Speaker 1: They have like a whole moment where they like get
face to face, so they kind of like they kind
of bury the lead there.
Speaker 4: They're not like, yeah, they're gonna be a couple this season, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and we're gonna get like the other version of her. Right,
it looks like based on intro so that that wasn't
expecting that. So that'll be kind of cool to see
that that dynamic is probably gonna be a comple one
to eight of what this hardcore is. Like, yeah, so
that'll be that'll be pretty funny. But no, I think
I me and Madison were talking about how it's just
it's it's weird, you know, Like James gun this.
Speaker 4: Really hurts all the time.
Speaker 3: James Gunns just sitting there watching it and Madison's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, Christ, that would be weird if you made
me do this, And oh we are the second Moviel's
just going to town on Mass and just wait, Hunter
gets into a weird situation.
Speaker 4: Taylor get closer.
Speaker 5: To the camera, do it like that scene in next.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, can you do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, you get here. She's just a.
Speaker 1: Boom mic operator. Yeah, I'll say, Taylor, this is bug
Taylor so much. But like I think that's a different
profession though, like acting and everything, like in that sense, right,
And I'm sure when they met she was already doing
that stuff. So it's like, I feel like you can't
really limit your partner to do those things.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying is he's directing, but like
tons of people like look at James Cameron when he
directed The Terminators, Lindl Hamilton was his wife and the
whole Like he filmed The Conception of John Connor where
all this stuff's going on, so like happens a bunch.
I feel like in that spectrum, it's just like if
it is weird, that's because someone's making it.
Speaker 3: Like I would want to see what their facial expression is. Well,
the scenes a tound folding just.
Speaker 4: Like, well you're direct it, so there you go.
Speaker 3: But no, like if okay, so let's say, uh, I
want to see like James Cameron's facial expression as he's
filming the scene with his wife the Conception of John Carr,
because I want to.
Speaker 4: I want to it's not Sean okay, no, whoa he's
shown Connor.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's uh no, because you're just saying
that she's having sex with her son.
Speaker 3: With the the conception of John Carn.
Speaker 4: Okay, I think he said the scene of John Connor.
Speaker 6: No, your sister, But what do you think the scene
is him just yelling like stop Michael Bean stopped, like
he told Michael Bean to do those things to his wife.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I'm not expecting it like that.
Speaker 4: I just I want to.
Speaker 3: I want to see what if it's if he's got
a stoic look and he's like a creative composure, or
if he's like licking his lips, like yeah, let's okay.
Speaker 1: First of all, there's a set multiple these usually have
sets of multiple people, dozens of people.
Speaker 4: I think if they're to look over in James Gun's
licking his.
Speaker 1: Lips, there's a lot of people that aren't going to
be working with James Gun in the futer.
Speaker 3: What can they do? They're all his friends.
Speaker 4: They do well, then then you gotta get some new friends.
I guess. Then I say, you know what, I guess
I'm gonna go to the MCU.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you most of those directors they I
don't say they have a stoic look. They probably have
an engaged look, not in the way that you're thinking.
They're probably just focused on like Shaw lighting the scene,
like that's probably the last Like I think when they're
up there, they are Taylor wants gone to buy double
for SCENEA for sex scenes, Well, there's some history like Tail,
you'd be happy in the Thor movies whenever he kissed
Danley Portman. Oh, I don't know about Thor, Love and Thunder,
but the first two Hampsworth's wife would step in and
do those scenes.
Speaker 3: See that's respectable, that's bravo, bravo.
Speaker 4: As that says, that's Rachel bros.
Speaker 3: His lips tongue out, did you get rid.
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, this was his h.
Speaker 1: He was pasting that moment like yeah, Rachel's husband, just
go watch the lobby.
Speaker 4: Over that what have you done? Don't do it?
Speaker 1: You know, So I don't think it's weird. I think
that's just like that's the form. It's it's no different.
But you know, you'll have to I think Moore's commentators,
you're gonna you're gonna be thinking about that every time.
Speaker 4: But you know, so nice. But yeah, anything more on
her journey this episode, no.
Speaker 1: No, okay, So then we didn't get too many updates
on the other characters. Waller's daughter just drove Chris around.
That's cool, vigilant.
Speaker 3: She she's single now, right like her Yeah, which I
found was weird because they kind of implied because like
she couldn't get a job or pull her weight.
Speaker 1: But it's like, well, it's not her fault, like her
mom's doing a hit on all these people that like
screwed over that. It's not like she's sitting around being lazy, right,
it's like even Blackball. So, which was kind of weird
too because in the recap they showed her kissing with
that girl. So I thought, Okay, that's like a big point,
maybe we'll get back together. But I thought it was
weird to show to the recap look happy couple to
off screen. Yeah, it's over right now and we broke up,
so I don't know what's gonna happen there. Vigilant he's
working at some food shack, and you know, I'm Vigilanti's
the one I'm always fifty fifty with because I feel
like there's stuff he does that I really like and.
Speaker 4: There's stuff that I don't.
Speaker 1: The whole like fuck nuts, fuck next thing I didn't like,
but the scene this is like a tribute to the
actor in the writing as the line I really did
like though they're arguing anything, but I'm your friend.
Speaker 4: I went to your wedding. He' said you were fucking
invited for some reason.
Speaker 1: That got me just like him showing up to the
wedding and you like hanging that over him like I
was at your wedding. So uh, yeah, we'll see what
happens with a Vigilante. But yeah, he's just working at
the food at some restaurant. And then John osmos Is
He's uh he is it osmos Is. What the fuck
is his last name?
Speaker 2: Uh? What the economics?
Speaker 4: Economics? You know one or I couldn't remember that terrible name.
Speaker 1: He is working with Argus, so unlike the other people
who have played black ball from these government jobs or
even like underground two side squads or whatnot.
Speaker 4: John, He's still he's still there working.
Speaker 1: He even said, like they've given him put him on
this argus Chris like Peacebger task mission, but he doesn't
want to.
Speaker 4: He's like he I like hi, when all his daughter's like, oh,
you know he's your friend. Well I would go that far,
but I don't want to fuck the guy over.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you don't want to give
him too much info because yeah, peace Binger could be done,
but then at the same time, you could lose your job.
Speaker 4: So I think that's an like I like that as.
Speaker 1: A good push and pull of he's trying to keep
his job, but he has some people he cares about.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and get Waller's daughter's name so he
can stop calling that. But what do we think about?
Speaker 2: What is it Liota.
Speaker 1: Liotas his name, I'm at, I'm Leota, I'm no wonder,
There's no reason I'm gonna remember these But yeah, what
do we think about before we get some the other
stuff of the little updates on Chris's crew here?
Speaker 4: Nothing moving on.
Speaker 3: You know. I I think I would have liked to
seem a little bit more vigilante because he was one
of my highlights in that first season. It really really
made me laugh a lot. And yeah, that's saying that
really really did get me because he's just such a
like but he's like I know, he just spirals out
of like left field, like, oh, I know a lot
about owls. I know everything about owl facts. I asked
me a question, and so Economos asks him like, okay,
like what are their eyes like tubes or balls or like, oh,
their balls are around It's like, oh, they're tubes, Like oh,
what the fuck? Like it seems like they have a
good friendship and they're hanging out a lot and whatnot.
Speaker 4: Seems like they have a good friendship. It seemed like
John was annoyed to take that call.
Speaker 3: He was annoyed, but he still took the end like
googled up like a.
Speaker 5: Fat owl, I'm busy, I can't talk to you, and
then he stops what he's doing, pulls up Google.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's definitely really doing it. He's definitely definitely
got like a like a bro friendship going on. So
so I think that's that's fun. That's funny. It's cute,
but we'll see where where things kind of go, and
maybe Vigilante is kind of like maybe he's kind of
like on the down low and knows what's going on.
But we'll have to see what knows what's going on
with what kind of like with economists, kind of like
stalking and watching.
Speaker 4: You think he knows You think he knows that he's
stalking piece.
Speaker 3: Well, he knows that he's back in town, So I
don't know. I think that he knows something might be
up or well, I don't know. I feel like they're
they're closer friends, and maybe Vigilante is playing like a
part in it because he's worried about Peacemaker two and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, just because we might not talk about later,
we didn't think this, but Gun can firm that they're
the Superman Supergirl are not on the Justice Gang now,
but they just team up a lot. So there you go.
So you look out for his live watch longs in
the future. Kirkland, you got any thoughts on the friends?
Speaker 2: I wanted a little bit more of Vigilante. Mm hmmm, yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: Let's take our last ad break and then we'll be
right back, and we are back. So let's talk about
this obviously with the I think this is what happens
the first time he goes in the portal, the first
time during the orgy writers at the second time.
Speaker 3: Second time he goes to the portal at the beginning
of the episode.
Speaker 1: Oh right, because yeah, eagerly, eagerly, yeah, because he was cold,
I'm not going out there and stuff. So so he
went in there once.
Speaker 4: And then this is very similar to Black's.
Speaker 1: Thing, right, like the pocket and that was in season one.
But he's just kind of chilling his walk and trying
to find eagerly, and then he finds a very similar
setup to his stuff going on all the helmets, so
I think that's kind of odd. Puts in the exact
same code to get into his room that opens up
a mirror universe or whatever might be multiverse. He sees
all these accomplishments on there. He sees like some posters
about this trio and you kind of infer, which we
get confirmed later that his brother's still live in a hero.
We get his dad, who, obviously, if you don't remember,
was the I think they call him what was the
Red Dragon or something.
Speaker 3: Like that white dragon, white dragon. When is he still
the white dragon or.
Speaker 1: I think somebody, well he's blue wh I guess actually right,
so it could be different. But even then though he
was white and red before and he's still the white dragon,
so he could be. But I think the red was
to emphasize the Nazi racism stuff because his dad, piece
of shit guy, into law terrible stuff, and SE's one
we don't know if he's into that into the multiverse stuff,
but at least the way he responded to see Chris,
like oh hey, good, oh you haven't like nightmarriage or
something like that. Nothing season one piece bigger Dad would
have said all he fucking hated his kid.
Speaker 4: It was very Dewey Cox like the wrong kid died.
Speaker 1: Sort of scenario. And it was even more fucked out
when they revealed that scene. It didn't actually kill the kid,
like it was just like an accident all together. But
then he runs out of there he's scared, but then
later on off the party because he's super down. The
interview didn't go well. The hardcourt thing didn't go well,
and I guess we could talk about it. There very
good scenario where you know, he pulls up this bag
bag for Rainy Day.
Speaker 4: All these many other heroes have all these issues.
Speaker 1: What Peacemaker does, He's just gonna go home and get
fucking waste that he's doing drugs. Great transition where he
does a line of cocaine and then when he comes up,
the orgies happening and there is hey, we always talk
with this Dix Galore, Dix vaginas. Everything is unequal opportunist
in here. Lots of great stuff going on. There's one
sex position that I really like with some guy had
one girl bent over and then the other girl was
He was standing up. The girl's bent over, and then
one girl's also riding him, so I'm not sure what
that's meaning. He has a big dick, she's just grinding
on him.
Speaker 4: But it was great.
Speaker 1: They were just going around the room and all these
just different scenarios. It was just like an Oranges like oh.
Speaker 4: Kind of half making people.
Speaker 1: They were making a look like that someone's getting written
behind John's or beside john scene. They want to fist pump.
He just bumps them and whatnot. But this is not
None of this is working for him. So he goes
back in this portal and then that's where we get
to see some of the stuff where, yeah, life's much
better there. The brother is alive, it seems like they're heroes.
They got like trophies and plaques. He wasn't supposed to
be there, so that was the cover for now, because like, oh,
you're back from Bloodhaven. But he's completely shocked because not
only is he seeing his dad alive in a sense
that he is proud of him, he's seeing his brother
as an adult, which.
Speaker 4: He's never ever seen before.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that would fuck you up more
than just seeing like a multiverse version of like your
kid brother, seeing your brother completely grown up. It's like, man,
that whole what if and potential what someone might be
is in front of you. And I thought scene actually
played that stuff really well, like the emotions of seeing
all this and him kind of being fluttered and just
playing up that he was drunk. So we get all
this stuff. It seems like we get a picture of
him in hardcourt that even though they're broken up, seems
like that's going well.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 1: He's looking at all these rs and trophies stuff we
saw on the trip, but we don't see the ending
of this as guncocks. It's the actual Peacemaker of that
in universe. They fight a little bit. He pretty much
just kicks his ass, but our Peacemaker hits one move,
hits the jet pack. But unfortunately this jet pack does
turn on and doesn't take out this peace maker just
pierces him through the entire stomach and kills said peacemaker,
which I did not think was gonna happen. I thought
he was just gonna get like knocked out and he'd
be like put away and eventually he'd swap back because that, okay,
our Peacemaker is gonna go live in that universe for
a little bit and realize you got switch back. But no,
it's like this guy is just fucking dead now. So yeah,
what do you think to you about all this?
Speaker 3: I mean, it fits, I feel like with our Peacemaker's
kind of mo o or it just you know, he
just does these bad decisions and fucks up, even though
he's just seeking something healthy and positive and just positive
reinforce him. But he fucks up. He fucks up a lot,
and that's one of his biggest kind of things about
how he can't really always just be back good guys
because he sucks up like this and This is kind
of like foreshadowed, I guess you could say in this
meeting at the beginning when the Justice Gang is like,
you know, we don't like casualties and that sort of stuff,
and I feel like that's a good kind of segue,
and like, okay, well this, you know, he has a
casualty here, like oh, they asked the question like what
about all the people that were not deserving of like
like justice or peace or whatever, like the way that
Maxwell Lord says paraphrasing, he says it in a way
like okay, because Johnston was like, yeah, no, I I
eliminated them all this da da da da brought brought
peace and whatnot. And he's like, okay, well what about
the ones that you didn't? You know, there's still still
people that he killed, but he just worked in a
very very good way that made him kind of have
to think a little bit more about it. So I
like that. But yeah, it's it's uh, yeah, that's interesting.
So now we're gonna be getting him just kind of
like tangling between the two universes here, which I'm fine with.
I think it'll be fun to see how things kind
of collapse and it makes total sense him wanting to
be in a universe where he's loved and appreciate him.
Hud at it as the good guy. You know, it
totally jives. So we'll love to see where things kind
of go and how it's gonna affect back at home.
That's one of the things I like too, is because
of everything that happened with Lex Luthor and his like
Pocket universe, and that's kind of like the theme here, like, Okay,
we can detect that. Okay, there's something going on here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're on the lookout for that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: They're on the lookout for it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, though you brought like with him
bouncing back between universes, I'm wondering if he is gonna
be bouncing back or if he's just gonna just go
to that one, because like, right now, here's really no
reason to say in our now. Granted, don't get me wrong,
he's gonna end up back in this one because I'm.
Speaker 4: Seeming I don't think they've they need to.
Speaker 1: Start doing some names and eventually hopefully they don't do
too much multiver.
Speaker 4: Stuff right away.
Speaker 1: But also the MCU world that we know, it's like
the six one six, right, So right now, I'll just
say for our prime DCU, that seems to be like
that's records, what is that's where that Justice Gang thing
is everything like that? So, like, I know he's going
to get back there, but she's just like, as, right now,
why what reason does he have to go like hard
Courts blowing him off when this universe looks like he's
with her.
Speaker 4: He's got not only a purpose with the heroism, he's
got his father and brother, but she never really had.
Speaker 1: His father was a round, but he didn't have him
as like a person to look up to, right, So
that's I'm curious why would he even consider going back
at all?
Speaker 4: Right now? Right and then?
Speaker 1: But the thing is is their consequence for staying there,
because technically, I feel like.
Speaker 4: Couldn't you just close that door?
Speaker 1: And if Peacemakers only knows that colde like like Rick
Clay can just never find him, he's gone awestly, it
won't be that easy.
Speaker 4: But I just don't know why Chris would go back
at all?
Speaker 3: Really, So yeah, yeah, what about Kirk, how do.
Speaker 4: You feel about this multiverse stuff? Right now?
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm just waiting for something to be revealed. That, like,
you know, his dad still is an awful piece of
shit character or something, and maybe his brother's involved, and
maybe those are like some antagonists for him to take
on for the season.
Speaker 3: I don't really know.
Speaker 5: It seems a little too good to be true. And yeah,
to your question your posing, it's like, why would he
go back? Like I imagine that'll be revealed pretty pretty quickly
next week, but I don't really.
Speaker 1: I think next week they'll reveal it. I think it'll
be a little long in that because I think we
got eight episodes.
Speaker 4: I feel like they might bury the lead for a bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess they could do like an episode of
them him just really bonding like with his dad and like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just having a good time out there, making it.
Speaker 5: That much harder for when they rip him away, because yeah,
I don't know, I don't really see him and him
being the dad I guess now his brother too, like
like going beyond this season, So I yeah, I don't know.
I imagine it will be something not so great, but
I don't really know exactly what.
Speaker 4: That Superman I says. I predict that new universe as
eel Superman.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, because We talked about
that with f four, right, and we didn't you know,
spoils for Fantastic four, but like whatever, you know, obviously people.
Speaker 4: Who decide to see it sat based on the box office.
Speaker 1: We didn't get any of that and they clear that before. Right,
there's no other heroes or anything like that, And I
wonder could like is that where you could get at
corn Sweat cameo where it's in this universe. It's this
way of like he hasn't interacted with Peacemaker yet, like
our Superman, but one here the one I'm thinking of though,
because it is a theme this season. I think for
multiple things of like Tay or someone in the interview
and obviously we got Rick Flake s looking for him.
I would be really down if they had Joel Kimmen
back Hiss Reflag in this universe to see what was
going on, like to kind of come to terms with
that a little bit, because that's one of those people
that he killed that does not fit the deserve.
Speaker 4: To you know, meet justice and everything like that.
Speaker 1: That's a guy who was doing his mission and Peacemaker
was listening to orders from Waller and he took him
out and that was that started the uh I guess decent,
but really the ascension for Peacemaker Rick because after he
killed Ric Flegg, he kind of realized that was a
mistake and he was on the wrong side of history.
So I would love with and we didn't talk about that,
but that's why Refi at first was just watching Peacemaker
because he's just looking for a reason to get his
son killer like dead right somehow. Luckily for him, the
whole like Pocket Universe tech looks like Lexus, so he
has a reason to use them. But even when he said, oh,
it's like he said some term like move them up
to level one threat or something like that. Even that
person he was working with kind of looking like, ah,
this feels like bullshit. This feels like you're just trying
to make it so we.
Speaker 4: Can bring them in and you get a chance to
fight or kill him.
Speaker 1: But that's what would be really interesting, And even if
it would be for that Flag to see his son,
because I'm not sure if they're gonna go to that universe,
but that's I don't know if I'll say a prediction,
but that's a hope of mind that we could see
uh Brick Flag Junior again and see Peacemaker and maybe
he's bad. I don't know what the deal would be,
but yeah, Superman him.
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anyone else I can think of.
Speaker 1: Other then of course you could see his other friends, right,
like all super in Hardcourt, So I imagine you might
see a version of them all like at Obao and
John and Vigilante, Like I could see that, but I
would like i'd like a couple other fun surprises what happened.
Speaker 3: I feel like we already have the dark Superman scenario.
I mean, even though he's with Clone, but I feel
like it's still, yeah, that's true, the same thing. So
I don't know if they really necessarily go about that
road unless they're doing Okay, no, we're not doing a clone.
We're gonna actually do Superman himself.
Speaker 1: Well what if it's kind of like, well, yeah, what
if it's kind of like parroting the Snyder Like I
don't agree with this, but already I can tell by
my timeline the whole re doing the opening a lot
of a lot of you know, that's that's literally erasing
the Snyder verse. But they're doing it because it's their universe.
But you got that, And then which I don't think
it's because of his joker, but James Gunn took multiple
shots at Jared Leto in this episode.
Speaker 4: It's a known fact that James gun does not like
Jared Lettle.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is all alleged, this is all
just stuff that's in there. I'm just reading off of
what James gun said on his Twitter, so it's not me.
But at one point there's a conversation before James got canceled,
he was having with somebody I can't remember who it was,
and someone tweeted out like, oh, you know, I think
they're just talking about how kind of icky it is
that Jared Leto goes aft. I'll just paraphrase that. It
was Jared Leto is messaging very young models, just you know,
to see I guess what's up right. And the person
that tweet that said like sixteen year old models, and
James Gunn under that tweet commented and said, oh, he
goes as old as sixteen on the internet, implying that
in person he does some things that are you know,
like approaching ladies that are even younger than sixteen. So
we knew a suicide squad that was never happening. But
I just love that in this one he both of
Hardcourt and Peacemaker. Moulton's like, I could never be a
thirty seconds to Mars like Johnstone was like, yeah, I remember
that band I was in for a week that was
better than thirty seconds to Mars.
Speaker 4: So and if you don't know het that shared Letto's band.
Speaker 1: So I love that it's just like between the opening
and then between him taking shots at Jared Letoel, I
definitely feel like those very crazy Snyder fans are just
fucking just running in the room right now doing looking
like hereditary, just losing it. But hey, you know, I'm
not a fan Jared Letto, So anybody it takes shots
at Jared Letto as I'm a fan of, but I
don't think we're seeing him.
Speaker 4: Maybe he'll be uh evil, but that's where you could
get evil Superman.
Speaker 1: We if that's just to like kind of make a
little fun of like Cavil, Right, I don't think they're
gonna do it.
Speaker 4: I think Gun's smart enough not to go that far.
Speaker 3: Get a evil Jared little Joker before you get an
evil Superman.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think you're you might get someone parroting
Jared Leto and like, like you could see that Joker
with another actor like Ike Barnholts playing him, or like
Adam Scott or something like that. But I don't or
fuck just have Jim's gun do it. But I don't
think he will get Jared Letto. But Superman Mike says,
I'm hoping for catch your cameo piece mare All almost
killed her two and Suside Squad, I am, but not
in the the multiverse area. I'd like that in the
like the the Prime DCU, so we can know she's.
Speaker 4: Gonna come back.
Speaker 1: What about uh, what about Robbie with uh, you know
on the press tour when James Gunn said, like, oh,
you'll get your answer. You know, what was this whole
thing that will be revealed in the future or down
the line, like wonder if they reveal it here?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I could not tell you.
Speaker 4: No thoughts from the Peanut gallery here. Let's see. I'm
trying to think of there's anything.
Speaker 1: Else I did like when you went in the universe,
very similar to kind of what we got with the
Flash a couple of years ago when the Flash movie
happened and they're talking about back in the Future and
there Michael G. Fox wasn't in that movie. He was
in Top Gun. Eric Stoltz was same thing when he
walked into our Chris or our Peacemaker walked in.
Speaker 4: The other peace makers room.
Speaker 1: In all these bands, the albums have change, like def leparts,
pour some honey on me instead of sugar.
Speaker 4: I thought I was good and then there's some of that. People.
I mean, I take credit for this.
Speaker 1: If I'm always look at I gotta watch the new Dexter.
I applaud your your validity to make sure you watch that. Yeah,
we'll be back to more watching Dexter. But ISAD really
out now at nine pm?
Speaker 2: IFO?
Speaker 4: It was midnights at oh nine pm for us? That's interesting?
Speaker 3: What it is?
Speaker 4: I have to Yeah, I'm gonna check that.
Speaker 1: But I swear when Rick Flake Senior was on his
computer and he was watching like a meta humans like
their version of YouTube. What it was that talk show
guy from Superman, right, But I was looking in the
thumbnails on the right there was enough like nothing crazy
like criming invescat blah blah blah. But I swear the
fourth one down there was a head cut off the
top of the head of the forehead and it it
looked like a fucking Batman cow. I swear, are you
it's at the Batman cown talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the dextra episode went cool, look at that. It's
good tonight you're in Kirkland.
Speaker 2: We'll see if I show up.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I swear someone I think in Batman
in the future or later on next week when you
see a bunch of youtubes like this was like Batman cow.
I swear it was looking like Batman's cow, just like uh,
like a twenty twenty five percent of it, not enough
for me to say for sure, but it looked like
the forehead and I swear and it was only like
one of the pokey thing, but I swear it was there.
So just you know, look out for that. I'm not
saying you.
Speaker 3: Have a s Do you have a still?
Speaker 4: I want to find well, I don't think I can.
I don't think I can share.
Speaker 1: Can I screenshare a crave and us not get completely
get taken down?
Speaker 4: I feel like that's gonna black out the screen right.
Speaker 3: Probably it might.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 1: So the scene when he when Rick Flagg is at Argus,
when he's talking that lady and he's on his computer
and he's watching like the talk show. I'll get the
screen cap here. I should have wrote it down. But okay,
so let's see here. I can't we going a little bit.
We're at the orgy. Okay, okay, here we go. I'll
see if I can see. It looks clear though on
the TV now here, I don't feel as confident.
Speaker 4: Let me if I can screen shit. I doubt I can't.
Oh does this actually pull up?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Look at that. So we're not gonna play it at all.
Speaker 1: But if you full screen that bottom right, and they
don't go down anymore, gonna put my brightness up. They
don't go down anymore. But if you look at it
on your TV, in my opinion, it looks like a
top of a cow. I know right here actually does
not look like anything. But I'm telling you all my TV.
On my TV, when it was blown up, it looked
like a cow. And it just the fact that that's
the one that's cut off.
Speaker 3: I don't know, just saying Batman in daytime.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe maybe that's a great maybe is on trial
or something. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I definitely would put that in your in your favor, though,
I don't think like there's anything that's just out in
there for the hell of it. I think, like all
these pages and when there's like news articles and stuff
like that, it just pulls my my focus because it's
like I don't I don't really pause and like scan
it all. But when it just pops up, it just
gets me excited because you know these are these are
customized pages, right, so you know it's gonna have a bunch.
It's like going into Daredevil or not Daredevil. What's the
name of the reporter who trained, uh, the lady ben Yurick. Yeah,
when you look in his office, newspaper articles all over
his wall from that world and it's.
Speaker 1: Just full world building and like to me, that one
who says new details emerge on widening and investigation.
Speaker 4: The next DCU show is Green Lantern and they've said.
Speaker 1: It's about them being like detectives, right, So to me,
that's what that is up there.
Speaker 4: I think as Bob's especis, he doesn't think it's the
same report from Superman.
Speaker 1: I think that is the same guy, right, that was
I don't want to hit maybe a community, but I thought.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: That's I thought that's the same guy. From wet on
American Summer. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: I can't remember. I'll trust your judgment, though.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay online till midnight until we figure this out,
so hang on. But no, it's can't take one search.
I swear it's the same guy. Let's see here, anything
else in this episode before I find this guy. We're
in the closing thoughts.
Speaker 3: Here, got anything, Kirkland, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1: It is the same guy. It's Michael ian Black. By
the way, he plays Cleavis Thornwait, so there you go,
sucking s bubs, suck it. Get ready next month, take
you down the draft or taking Gma out again?
Speaker 4: You know, get ready?
Speaker 5: You know the Peacemaker two's little Ninja stars devices.
Speaker 4: Yeah, start brutal. Yeah, it just.
Speaker 2: Digs into his spine, just up and down.
Speaker 5: Hopefully some more helmet artillery whatever variations this season, Hm,
because we got a.
Speaker 4: Lot anything else there? No, I'm out there you go,
Well he's out, Kirkland's out. I'm out.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week for Peacemaker episode two, and
we promise you it won't be boring.