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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Broadcast. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>make mistakes, you won't learn. With your host Corey Winfield, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know how you know fish as bad as you can't

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<v Speaker 2>put it on pizza and special guests.

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<v Speaker 3>Justin Burke I said something about that to our master

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<v Speaker 3>radio broadcaster and he said that he didn't hear nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mitchell O'Brien, I think to introduce people, you should

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<v Speaker 1>tell them a little bit about at a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about ourselves. Got your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the sixth of August twenty twenty four. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Corey Winfield, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Burt, Mitchell o'l O'Brien.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get deep in recovery today. Mitchill had quite a day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to you about that. Justin had

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend that it was a little stressful. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend and had a morning today. I was thrown

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<v Speaker 2>away my box because I had protein bars. Then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>eating and the box was empty, so I throw it away.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't just throw it away because that takes

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<v Speaker 2>up too much space. So you gotta break it down,

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<v Speaker 2>fold it up. Well, that brought me back to a

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<v Speaker 2>time when I lived in Arkansas and I used to

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<v Speaker 2>break down my cases and I would think like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put them in the trash that way and save

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<v Speaker 2>room because down there you didn't have deposit. You still

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<v Speaker 2>don't and so you just throw your cans away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they call themselves the natural state, Like that's not natural

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<v Speaker 2>Natty ice, Milwaukee's Best ice. Yeah, it was gross, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the first few are just difficult. But I use

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<v Speaker 2>them as chasers anyway, so it didn't matter. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was gross. But I used to break it down, man,

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<v Speaker 2>break the boxes down. And then one more one time

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<v Speaker 2>I realized, because you see my trash and you just

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<v Speaker 2>see and the outside it'd be like Milwaukee's Best Ice

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<v Speaker 2>and then just nothing but cans like like falling out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, you know, And it was bad. So I

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<v Speaker 2>remember one time I was just like, oh, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 2>break the box down and rip it like open, to

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<v Speaker 2>turn it inside out so that you just see the

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<v Speaker 2>brown and not the actual crap that I was drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>And this time too in Arkansas, like you couldn't you

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<v Speaker 2>could not have a lid on your trash can. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that makes no sense because like dogs and animals

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<v Speaker 2>or raccoons and neighbors will just come rummaging through your trash.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen it and the els this one guy, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking out there, nothing good in there. And yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't have a lid on it. If you had

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<v Speaker 2>a lid on it, they wouldn't touch your trash can.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally they barely passed this vote of let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a trash can with the lid on it and that

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<v Speaker 2>the truck can actually pick up right, like they were

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<v Speaker 2>old school in it. Man, And this is twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy riding on the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like actually physically grabbing the trash can, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it barely passed. Like people were pissed, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to put this out by the road now, and like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, hell yeah, and you can put

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<v Speaker 2>your trash and nobody knows what's in it. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>why they were mad. They're like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see what my neighbor's throwing away over there so I

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<v Speaker 2>can ride later. I don't know when they're not thrown

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<v Speaker 2>away its condoms. I don't think they saw those in Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 2>but we.

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<v Speaker 3>Just did say it was a natural state.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what, man, one day, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into the Arkansas stuff like after, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to have some good therapy set up before and after.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was very traumatic.

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of going over my little I call

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<v Speaker 2>it something else, but my little people biker gang that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw down there, And it was the craziest because

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<v Speaker 2>it was like it wasn't even it was like mini bikes, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had them like painted up like Harley's and like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I made some jokes that it was very insensitive,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the time it was funny, I think, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>age some jokes. And then when I was in a

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<v Speaker 2>treatment the last time, we had this guy who was.

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<v Speaker 1>A security gardener who was going to tell everybody what

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they had these things called room checks that they

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<v Speaker 2>started because this chick from like downstate wanted to hook up.

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<v Speaker 2>She was knocking on all the guy's doors. So then

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, my gosh, there's women sneaking into

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<v Speaker 2>men's rooms. So then they started doing these room checks. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Rob, who was in two seventeen at the

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<v Speaker 2>very beginning. Obviously he was in the same room obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. And they came in and he was like

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<v Speaker 2>pissed about it. He's like, no, I'll be sleeping, nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>coming in checking, you know, Da da da da. So

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Rob, stop being so angry. Let's have fun

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<v Speaker 2>with this. And so we set up this whole skit

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<v Speaker 2>where this other guy who I'm not going to mention,

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<v Speaker 2>was in the bed too, and I jumped in the

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<v Speaker 2>bed and we were looking at magazines and we were

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<v Speaker 2>acting like we were doing Rob a favor, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, like one on inside and like the

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<v Speaker 2>covers were moving, and he comes and he beats on

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<v Speaker 2>our door. And he had told us earlier like I

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<v Speaker 2>have a cute so I'll open it if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>answer it. So we're just waiting for him. He beating

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<v Speaker 2>on and he's like, I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Open the door. We're just like, get ready, get ready.

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<v Speaker 2>And he opens the door and there we are and

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<v Speaker 2>just like just yeah, to the extreme of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with the noises and the acting. And he's like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, and so he leaves and then he

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<v Speaker 2>was and he said something else and he came back

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<v Speaker 2>and he said something and then Rob was just pissed,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Rob goes out to the balcony and he's

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<v Speaker 2>like leaning off at yelling at the guy, and the

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<v Speaker 2>guy was like, yeah, well, don't don't f with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm your worst nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, WHOA, Like, buddy, you don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>my worst nightmares? And I'm still I get out. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you don't even know my worst nightmare is.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you know what. I was threatened once

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<v Speaker 2>by the electric company and they said they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>shut my shit off and they did, and I'm scarred

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<v Speaker 2>from this, you know. I was like, I don't respond

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<v Speaker 2>to threats well and I'm going crazy. And then so

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<v Speaker 2>we filed a grievance on them, and at that time

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<v Speaker 2>this place, I think they kind of cared. But the

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<v Speaker 2>HR lady met with me and my friend Lance, who

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<v Speaker 2>was working downstate for a little bit. They called me

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<v Speaker 2>in and Lance was like intern guy just just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stepped into the role of like, let me in

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<v Speaker 2>turn under this HR lady and it's like, so what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went through the threat thing and then

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<v Speaker 2>I was like and then you know, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do I know that. I didn't use this word,

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<v Speaker 2>but a little person biker gang isn't going to kidnap me,

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<v Speaker 2>hold me in their basement and start doing sexual things

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<v Speaker 2>to me for weeks and then no one knows, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd start just this elaborate story about how this little

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<v Speaker 2>person biker gang was going to do bad things to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But it all goes back to the Arkansas story of

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<v Speaker 2>watching these people. Not these people, but the group of gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one thing they didn't have was a woman

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<v Speaker 2>on the back. That would have been sweet. That would

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<v Speaker 2>have been that they could have souped up their minibikes

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<v Speaker 2>to be even badasser and I think I have a

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<v Speaker 2>full sized woman on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that your brain was working so complex at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in your sobriety, that was a good sign. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I'm going with That was a good sign.

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<v Speaker 3>I think his brain's always worked like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, you lose a little function

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<v Speaker 1>there when we're in the heaviest parts of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, imagine when I could have been huh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's that whole little comedian guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't think of his name right off him something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're telling us that story of the apple one. No,

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<v Speaker 3>when he was trying to go over the baby gate.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was like was his arm up, like let

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<v Speaker 4>me up, help me out, just like you know this gate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to look sexy when you need help.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but not a mini bike look sexy as hell,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if we have it looking like a hardy now.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, yesterday, Mitch, you had quite the day. You

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<v Speaker 2>had like four people you took to or from treatment,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were just bam bam, bam bam. You're driving

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<v Speaker 2>all over northern Michigan, and I could kind of tell

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<v Speaker 2>when you came back to work you had like this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say it like justin but I won't

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<v Speaker 2>have like this aura about you. And I think that

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<v Speaker 2>is from the recovery coaching that you were doing on

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<v Speaker 2>the way, because when I was talking with a gentleman

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<v Speaker 2>that was here and we were kind of talking about

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<v Speaker 2>recovery stuff, and you just like jumped right in like yep,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been talking about this all day, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like this fresh time, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's the that's the kind of aura that

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<v Speaker 2>that you had going you know, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like this this vibe you're giving off and you just

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<v Speaker 2>seem like you accomplished a lot. Like you when you

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<v Speaker 2>went home, I think you felt damn good about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt tired, yeah, and damn good about yoursel I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good war out, Like I accomplished stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that day. I went home and I earned my rest,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But I'm glad it looked like that because

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I walked in here feeling just like mentally drained. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I used it, you know, didn't lose it. I

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<v Speaker 1>used it, So it'll drain you. It really will. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't understand that. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to be a recover coach, Like okay, that's cool,

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<v Speaker 2>but take that time for yourself, you know, like have

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<v Speaker 2>that time to to just come down for a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and get back in your own life and

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<v Speaker 2>things you got going on. They say, you know, gratitude

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<v Speaker 2>lists are great, you know, even to this day. Know

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<v Speaker 2>if you had to grab a pad of paper and

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<v Speaker 2>write ten things you're grateful for and just think, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like these things wouldn't be possible if I wasn't in recovery.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like a lot of people too, will take

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<v Speaker 2>on other people's problems. You know, they don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to deal with that. And you know, oh, this person's

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<v Speaker 2>living in their storage unit. You know, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>do something about it. Well, what we can do about

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<v Speaker 2>it is what we can do about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can make effort to do something about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not always going to work out. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>always help that person immediately. But there's some steps that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and some people will just laugh at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sensitive person.

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<v Speaker 1>A d bag. Now the yesterday the rides were really good.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them was a little bit of a struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>at all, you know, physically, their brain isn't gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying, you know, So you know I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>you know a lot because I'm trying to think about it. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and I enjoyed it. I slept damn good last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Just saw it in the yesterday and I was proud.

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<v Speaker 3>It's proud you remember your days on the road.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Yes, you know, five am getting up beating the

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<v Speaker 2>sun up, not beating my son up, but beating the sunrise.

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<v Speaker 2>That's him hanging out with Justin too long today now

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<v Speaker 2>and Justin you had like a tough weekend man, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you were telling me about it yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like, yeah, it was I went to

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<v Speaker 3>I had to scheduled back in like March, and because

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<v Speaker 3>they just fill up really fast, because there's just not

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<v Speaker 3>enough classes to meet the needs of everybody that wants

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<v Speaker 3>to take this class. And so I went to go

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<v Speaker 3>take the class on Saturday, and it was in the heat,

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<v Speaker 3>like it was hot, humidity, sun beating down on us

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<v Speaker 3>all day. We're on this in this parking lot. And

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<v Speaker 3>the parking lot's all extra black too, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like sitting on that thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>put the burgers on at the fast food restaurant to

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it felt like that, like like it was so hot,

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<v Speaker 3>like our motorcycles were only like two fifties, just baby

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<v Speaker 3>bikes really, and you could tell where the kickstand was

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<v Speaker 3>already starting to go into the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like melting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, And it was just it was crazy how

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<v Speaker 3>hot it was. So I get back to my mom's house,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sitting there my well, I'm gonna take shower. I'd

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<v Speaker 3>go take a shower and I come back, I sit

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<v Speaker 3>down at a little catch table for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, probably didn't go upstairs and just sit down

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<v Speaker 3>and relax for a little bit. And then she kind

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<v Speaker 3>of got pissy, like for unknown reasons, like and then

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<v Speaker 3>started saying, while making all this food this weekend and

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<v Speaker 3>nobody would do it. I was like, Mom, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>ask you to do all this for me, Like you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing this out the kindness of your heart, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to throw it in my face. And I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of felt a little discouraged about it. And then I

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<v Speaker 3>finally I was upstairs for about twenty minutes. I finally

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<v Speaker 3>just went and sat outside. I'm like, fuck it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, why be comfortable. It kind of irritated

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<v Speaker 3>me enough. I almost left and just came back up here,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't want to drive from Traverse City all

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<v Speaker 3>the way back down there for my class on Sunday, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I just went outside. I didn't really speak

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<v Speaker 3>to her for the next two hours, and she came

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<v Speaker 3>outside at one point and was like, you know, justin

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<v Speaker 3>I understand you're tired. You've been out in the sun

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<v Speaker 3>all day. He goes upside.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't respond to her. I just sat there in

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<v Speaker 3>my chair watched the Olympics off my phone because I

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<v Speaker 3>heard the BMX bike races or whatever was really good

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<v Speaker 3>this year, so I wanted to watch it. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I just sat there and watched it off my phone

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<v Speaker 3>outside in the heat. So what anymore that I was

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<v Speaker 3>trying to prevent. And I'm a fat guy. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like the heat obviously, And so Sunday comes around and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like this same thing, you know. It's like I

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<v Speaker 3>get back and I passed my class. I get back

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<v Speaker 3>to the house and I'm like, I looked at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, i'd really like to leave here

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<v Speaker 3>by six o'clock. I want to get home by eight

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<v Speaker 3>nine o'clock because I had to stop get mailed from

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<v Speaker 3>my old roommates apartment. And I just sat there and

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at the time. I'm like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is she doing? Like really like what's going on? And

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<v Speaker 3>it finally about six o'clock, she finally put the burgers

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<v Speaker 3>on the grill man and I told her at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm eating and leaving since I'm done eating,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm just not gonna sit here and hang out

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm not. It's already past the time I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to leave. So I spent all weekend irritated to the max.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what it's like to hang out with people

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<v Speaker 3>that still use substances. It just they don't care about

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<v Speaker 3>anyone else's time frame or schedule. Only personally care about

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<v Speaker 3>is themselves. And it's really sad, you know. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>it's heartbreaking to be like, you know, because if we're

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<v Speaker 3>all sober and you said you had to leave at

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<v Speaker 3>a certain time to go home and be with Parker,

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<v Speaker 3>we'd be like, Okay, well we'll make sure it's done

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<v Speaker 3>by then, you know, not at the time you gotta leave. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're just finally gonna do this. Well, deuces, I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>of here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes you irritated, it makes you pissed off, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just it just makes me wonder why why

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<v Speaker 3>I still put myself in that situation sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because if it wasn't my mom, what I even hang

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<v Speaker 3>out with said person? Probably not because it's a sluddown.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah do you think? Okay, I know for a fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mitch, you can probably back me up on this too.

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<v Speaker 2>If you would have said, too, said person, your mom,

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<v Speaker 2>how about you don't crack that until after we have

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<v Speaker 2>them burgers. Them burgers would have been made at seven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty in the morning probably, you know, like they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have like that would have been like, Okay, what do

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do so I can have that at

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the most important thing to them. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>one of a said person in my life. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>my mom that thinks, well, I don't have a problem

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not like Corey, I'm not that bad. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the shakes. I didn't have to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital because my liver failed. So I am not

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<v Speaker 2>a bad person. Because that's what a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>think that they're bad people. But they're not bad people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's addiction, and the addiction takes over a lot a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things. But a lot of people will will justify, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that bad because I'm not shaking every day.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's an incident came up to this weekend because

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<v Speaker 3>my brother tried changing his mailing address. They the day

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<v Speaker 3>he went into jail. She's like, you know, I hounded

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<v Speaker 3>him for two weeks about doing this so that way,

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<v Speaker 3>if something happened, he would be out here to take

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<v Speaker 3>care of it. I'm like, don't you understand how addiction works? Mom?

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<v Speaker 3>We don't care about that shit. Yeah, he went and

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<v Speaker 3>did it the day of that's what we do. Be

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<v Speaker 3>lucky he even did that, right, Like a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times we don't care about that dumb shit, like that's

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<v Speaker 3>behind us. We're worried about the bottle or the bag,

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<v Speaker 3>take your pick, depending what your cup of tea is,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. And I'm just like, you have to understand

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<v Speaker 3>how this works, like both your kids have addiction issues

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<v Speaker 3>and you're just what done with life? Done doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's not how it goes, Like he will get better,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you have to believe that he's gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you don't, like what are you doing? You're just

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have no hope, no faith in your own

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<v Speaker 3>kid to get better and to do better things. You

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<v Speaker 3>may as well start buying a burial platinw Then I

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<v Speaker 3>told her, and she was She kind of looked at

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<v Speaker 3>me like I was being too harsh, Like what's the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's what you're saying, that he's gonna end

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<v Speaker 3>up doing, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if she beats herself up a little. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's kind of the thing, because there's always something

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<v Speaker 2>that we're using for. There's something that you know, bannonment

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<v Speaker 2>issues or you know, mistakes we made in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>and once we get drunk or high or whatever, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember them, or we can get that fuck it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>who cares. I just keep drinking. I don't even care,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And if she looks at it, like man,

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of parents do. They'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I messed up, and I shouldn't have let them do this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I shouldn't have had this at their party. I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have done this, I shouldn't have done that, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing they can do about it now. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of parents will beat themselves up. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's why a lot of people like to keep it

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<v Speaker 2>down in the basement. Nothing to see here, no problem,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell nobody, you know. And I wonder if part

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<v Speaker 2>of that is something that she has deep down it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, I'm screwed, justin up totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of it. My brother, though, is

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<v Speaker 3>too is just the fact that you know, he's been

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<v Speaker 3>getting in trouble since he was thirteen. Started with stealing

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<v Speaker 3>a cart and of cigarettes from Meyer or maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>couple backs, I don't really remember, but really when they

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<v Speaker 3>just had a little cigarette carousel things and that before

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<v Speaker 3>you checked out. Yeah, he got caught stealing some cigarettes

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<v Speaker 3>from one of those and ended up getting in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a year later, he wrote a bomb threat at

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<v Speaker 3>the school on a piece of paper that said there's

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<v Speaker 3>a bomb in the school, and like kind of threw

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<v Speaker 3>it up on the bleachers and someone seeing him toss

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<v Speaker 3>the note up there and went and checked it out,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there was a bomb in the school. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm laughing, but it's really not funny, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 3>he got expelled from school, and it's just been an

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing thing his whole life, you know. So I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>if sometimes she does sit back and wonder, well, where

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<v Speaker 3>did I go wrong? Where did I messed up?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of it is my eyes. He was

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<v Speaker 3>baby to his whole life. He didn't really have to

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<v Speaker 3>do nothing, he just didn't. It was the baby of

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<v Speaker 3>the family. So he got that like get out of

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<v Speaker 3>jail free cards. She's always bailed him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I wonder if she just you know, looks back

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<v Speaker 2>at that and it seems like it would kind of

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<v Speaker 2>suck or hurt, you know, like as parents. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, we know that our parents

422
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<v Speaker 2>aren't perfect. We know that nobody's perfect. We know that

423
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<v Speaker 2>everybody makes mistakes, but we, I would assume, are going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to be better, you know, and some of

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<v Speaker 2>the mistakes that we felt they made, will try not

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<v Speaker 2>to make those, and we'll make our own mistakes along

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<v Speaker 2>the way too.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know there's something there I think where that

431
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<v Speaker 2>would keep somebody else like stuck a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little Yeah, Because she even made the comment to me

433
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<v Speaker 3>was she was like, well, when he gets out of jail,

434
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<v Speaker 3>he ain't coming here. I don't know where he's going.

435
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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, okay, I do hopefully he comes and lives

436
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<v Speaker 3>with me, and hopefully I can show him a good path,

437
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<v Speaker 3>you know, to live, because he talks about how he

438
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<v Speaker 3>wants to be in recovery, how he wants to do

439
00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:20.480
<v Speaker 3>these things, but being stuck down there where there's nothing, Yeah,

440
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<v Speaker 3>there's no employment opportunity, there's just nothing down there.

441
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<v Speaker 2>There's absolutely nothing in Baldwin, Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's not. You you went through there, didn't.

443
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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't.

444
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<v Speaker 2>I made sure not to go through there because I've

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<v Speaker 2>noticed there was nothing there.

446
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

447
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, we want to go to like

448
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<v Speaker 2>a place where we can eat food video not roadkill.

449
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<v Speaker 2>That was so perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's really nothing there Spike Brother's.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Video if you haven't seen it two seventeen recovery dot Com.

452
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<v Speaker 2>There's a picture of Baldwin in there where Justin's from.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I've talked to him a lot since, like

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<v Speaker 3>he's been in jail and stuff, and he's just like,

455
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I just I need someone to give me

456
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<v Speaker 3>the opportunity like you have. And I'm just like, I'll

457
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<v Speaker 3>do it once, Like I offered the last time you

458
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<v Speaker 3>were in jail to do this for you, and you

459
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<v Speaker 3>chose not to take it. It's the last time, dogs bro. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well that's why I heard. But you know, I'm in

461
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<v Speaker 3>a spot where he could bring his little dog, you know,

462
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<v Speaker 3>and his little dog's cool. Yeah. I love his little dog.

463
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<v Speaker 3>He's a fun little dude. He's just relaxed, chill.

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<v Speaker 1>Cats, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell him to get the kiddy all the time

466
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<v Speaker 3>because he loves cats. He loves playing with him. You know,

467
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<v Speaker 3>he was raised around cats, so they're they're just like

468
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<v Speaker 3>a normal They're like a cousin to him, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he just steps up siblings.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, stop siblings, dude, what no way? But no,

471
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I just told him. I was like, I'll

472
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<v Speaker 3>help you, but you know, you bring your c you

473
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<v Speaker 3>try to bring your crazy wife up here, you will

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<v Speaker 3>be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is where is she going to go? Justin?

476
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>She was down in the Detroit area, like the last

478
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<v Speaker 3>month he was out, still on bond, and then he

479
00:25:17.039 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 3>goes to jail and all of a sudden she's back

480
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<v Speaker 3>in Baldwin trying to visit him every day and stuff.

481
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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just like, dude, what what are you doing?

482
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<v Speaker 3>Like she was the town bicycle the last time you

483
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<v Speaker 3>were in jail.

484
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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

485
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<v Speaker 3>Everybody gets a ride? And I'm just like, what are

486
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<v Speaker 3>you doing? Perfect trap you like, you know, just you

487
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 3>just need to not worry about anybody. You need to

488
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.240
<v Speaker 3>worry about yourself and become extremely selfish in that sense,

489
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<v Speaker 3>you know, worry about how Josh is gonna take care

490
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<v Speaker 3>of Josh and how Josh doesn't want to live on

491
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<v Speaker 3>his little eight hundred dollars solid security check because he

492
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:07.720
<v Speaker 3>broke his neck. Like there's work you can do that

493
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't involve breaking your back to do it. Like there's

494
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<v Speaker 3>work all over the place, Like get the hell out

495
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<v Speaker 3>of here and make a life for yourself and actually

496
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<v Speaker 3>do good for yourself. And I just hope he takes it,

497
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<v Speaker 3>you know, and does good things like I did, you know,

498
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<v Speaker 3>And I just hope to see him actually do good

499
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<v Speaker 3>one day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good luck with that, justin. Yeah, there's a lot

501
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<v Speaker 2>of responsibility to take in. It'll be all right.

502
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<v Speaker 1>So you come home and he's been using what are

503
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<v Speaker 1>you gonna say.

504
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 3>Kick his fucking ass over handslap? No, I'll literally kick

505
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<v Speaker 3>his ass, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So you'll you'll fight him. Yeah, what if he

507
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<v Speaker 1>calls the cops on you?

508
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<v Speaker 3>He couldn't call no cops.

509
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<v Speaker 2>What if he does, Oh he won't. What if his

510
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<v Speaker 2>wife does.

511
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 3>His wife won't even be around. I'll dig a hole

512
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<v Speaker 3>out in the back forties for.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

514
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<v Speaker 2>All right, now we're going to back to court. Mete.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's been talking about murder lately. I'm like, guys, no

516
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>more murder. Who's been talking about murder? So I went

517
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<v Speaker 1>to the beach with some people, and the one person

518
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't stop talking about it every time it was murderless

519
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 1>murder that. I was like, no, no murder, this is

520
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<v Speaker 1>That was my saturday. So I was having a real

521
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<v Speaker 1>rough saturday at the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>People say were they saying, I'm gonna kill that kiddie?

523
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what were they? How were they saying that? Like, no,

524
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<v Speaker 2>I want to murder that person over there. And then

525
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<v Speaker 2>yesterday one of my rides, the difficult one, it.

526
00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Was I'm gonna murder this and murder that.

527
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, we don't. We're gonna We're gonna stop

528
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<v Speaker 1>the murder now or no more murder talk. We're going

529
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<v Speaker 1>to treatment. You know, it's just everybody this murder happening

530
00:27:57.119 --> 00:27:59.599
<v Speaker 1>around me. I'm like, I just want people to live,

531
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>love each other, sixties in this bubble.

532
00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Trying to not murder people, trying to like have people

533
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 2>get their lives back. And yeah, m hm hmm. Well,

534
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 2>we don't know your honor, if this was a real

535
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<v Speaker 2>podcast or not satire, So justin we don't. We don't

536
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:24.079
<v Speaker 2>condone anything he said.

537
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 3>Only thing that I said was a hole. I did

538
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<v Speaker 3>say what was put in the hole? I just had

539
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 3>to dig a hole.

540
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Dig it for her so she could put anything she

541
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<v Speaker 1>wants in that hole.

542
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 3>That's right, like her whole self, what whatever ccs fit

543
00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>if she chooses to.

544
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I told her not to put that plastic bag on

545
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 2>her head, right and getting that hole and bury herself.

546
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 1>But she didn't. She's crazy, right.

547
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 4>She is crazy, like literally crazy. See, it's the murder

548
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:56.839
<v Speaker 4>in the plastic bag. That's not the first time that's

549
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.599
<v Speaker 4>coming up either. I'm worried about you guys. The plastic

550
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 4>bath thing. It was kind of like a suggestion.

551
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Who was annoying you enough to keep these in your head?

552
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I didn't tell her to snort the tablespoon the water.

553
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.599
<v Speaker 1>We're back there, speaking of water, I have to the

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<v Speaker 1>plants today.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that a Friday thing? It's Tuesday.

556
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember when I did it. Last week it happened,

557
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>but I can't remember when.

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00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, I attempted to do a good podcast today.

559
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

560
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe there was some recovery stuff in there.

561
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<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping there was, but just an early recovery. If

562
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 2>you get the thoughts in your head, just keep them there,

563
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Let them be thoughts your brain's lying to the high.

564
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:50.359
<v Speaker 1>It's not that good. No, the buzz, it's not that good.

565
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 2>And and you'll know it the minute you make that

566
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 2>bad choice, you're gonna realize what did I do? And

567
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 2>it's not even that good. But if it does happen,

568
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>you can always come back, you know, keep trying, don't

569
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>give up on yourself. That had a woman tell me

570
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>the other day she wasn't worth it, and yeah, I

571
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 2>think everybody's worth it.

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00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I actually got a text message last week that

573
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>said the same thing. I'm just not worth it. I said, yes,

574
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 3>you are worth it. Recovery is worth it.

575
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'd be surprised with what you can be and

576
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:26.799
<v Speaker 1>what you can become.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, anyway, thanks for listening and we'll talk to

578
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<v Speaker 2>you again the time of month you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast.

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