Speaker 1: Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Broadcast. If you don't
Speaker 1: make mistakes, you won't learn. With your host Corey Winfield, you.
Speaker 2: Know how you know fish as bad as you can't
Speaker 2: put it on pizza and special guests.
Speaker 3: Justin Burke I said something about that to our master
Speaker 3: radio broadcaster and he said that he didn't hear nothing.
Speaker 1: And Mitchell O'Brien, I think to introduce people, you should
Speaker 1: tell them a little bit about at a little bit
Speaker 1: about ourselves. Got your ass.
Speaker 2: It is the sixth of August twenty twenty four. My
Speaker 2: name is Corey Winfield, I'm.
Speaker 1: Justin Burt, Mitchell o'l O'Brien.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. I'm going to
Speaker 2: get deep in recovery today. Mitchill had quite a day yesterday.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about that. Justin had
Speaker 2: a weekend that it was a little stressful. It was
Speaker 2: a weekend and had a morning today. I was thrown
Speaker 2: away my box because I had protein bars. Then I'm
Speaker 2: eating and the box was empty, so I throw it away.
Speaker 2: But I don't just throw it away because that takes
Speaker 2: up too much space. So you gotta break it down,
Speaker 2: fold it up. Well, that brought me back to a
Speaker 2: time when I lived in Arkansas and I used to
Speaker 2: break down my cases and I would think like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll put them in the trash that way and save
Speaker 2: room because down there you didn't have deposit. You still
Speaker 2: don't and so you just throw your cans away. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they call themselves the natural state, Like that's not natural
Speaker 2: Natty ice, Milwaukee's Best ice. Yeah, it was gross, man,
Speaker 2: Like the first few are just difficult. But I use
Speaker 2: them as chasers anyway, so it didn't matter. But it
Speaker 2: was gross. But I used to break it down, man,
Speaker 2: break the boxes down. And then one more one time
Speaker 2: I realized, because you see my trash and you just
Speaker 2: see and the outside it'd be like Milwaukee's Best Ice
Speaker 2: and then just nothing but cans like like falling out
Speaker 2: of it, you know, And it was bad. So I
Speaker 2: remember one time I was just like, oh, maybe I'll
Speaker 2: break the box down and rip it like open, to
Speaker 2: turn it inside out so that you just see the
Speaker 2: brown and not the actual crap that I was drinking.
Speaker 2: And this time too in Arkansas, like you couldn't you
Speaker 2: could not have a lid on your trash can. I
Speaker 2: know that makes no sense because like dogs and animals
Speaker 2: or raccoons and neighbors will just come rummaging through your trash.
Speaker 2: I've seen it and the els this one guy, I'm
Speaker 2: looking out there, nothing good in there. And yeah, so
Speaker 2: you couldn't have a lid on it. If you had
Speaker 2: a lid on it, they wouldn't touch your trash can.
Speaker 2: And finally they barely passed this vote of let's have
Speaker 2: a trash can with the lid on it and that
Speaker 2: the truck can actually pick up right, like they were
Speaker 2: old school in it. Man, And this is twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: The guy riding on the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like actually physically grabbing the trash can, and I
Speaker 2: mean it barely passed. Like people were pissed, I have
Speaker 2: to put this out by the road now, and like
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, hell yeah, and you can put
Speaker 2: your trash and nobody knows what's in it. Maybe that's
Speaker 2: why they were mad. They're like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: see what my neighbor's throwing away over there so I
Speaker 2: can ride later. I don't know when they're not thrown
Speaker 2: away its condoms. I don't think they saw those in Arkansas,
Speaker 2: but we.
Speaker 3: Just did say it was a natural state.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, man, one day, I'm going to
Speaker 2: get into the Arkansas stuff like after, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to have some good therapy set up before and after.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very traumatic.
Speaker 2: I was kind of going over my little I call
Speaker 2: it something else, but my little people biker gang that
Speaker 2: I saw down there, And it was the craziest because
Speaker 2: it was like it wasn't even it was like mini bikes, man,
Speaker 2: and they had them like painted up like Harley's and like.
Speaker 3: That's awesome for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I made some jokes that it was very insensitive,
Speaker 2: but at the time it was funny, I think, But yeah,
Speaker 2: age some jokes. And then when I was in a
Speaker 2: treatment the last time, we had this guy who was.
Speaker 1: A security gardener who was going to tell everybody what
Speaker 1: was going on.
Speaker 2: Well, they had these things called room checks that they
Speaker 2: started because this chick from like downstate wanted to hook up.
Speaker 2: She was knocking on all the guy's doors. So then
Speaker 2: they were like, oh, my gosh, there's women sneaking into
Speaker 2: men's rooms. So then they started doing these room checks. Well,
Speaker 2: my friend Rob, who was in two seventeen at the
Speaker 2: very beginning. Obviously he was in the same room obviously,
Speaker 2: thank you. And they came in and he was like
Speaker 2: pissed about it. He's like, no, I'll be sleeping, nobody's
Speaker 2: coming in checking, you know, Da da da da. So
Speaker 2: I said, Rob, stop being so angry. Let's have fun
Speaker 2: with this. And so we set up this whole skit
Speaker 2: where this other guy who I'm not going to mention,
Speaker 2: was in the bed too, and I jumped in the
Speaker 2: bed and we were looking at magazines and we were
Speaker 2: acting like we were doing Rob a favor, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like one on inside and like the
Speaker 2: covers were moving, and he comes and he beats on
Speaker 2: our door. And he had told us earlier like I
Speaker 2: have a cute so I'll open it if you don't
Speaker 2: answer it. So we're just waiting for him. He beating
Speaker 2: on and he's like, I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Open the door. We're just like, get ready, get ready.
Speaker 2: And he opens the door and there we are and
Speaker 2: just like just yeah, to the extreme of it, you know,
Speaker 2: with the noises and the acting. And he's like, what
Speaker 2: the you know, and so he leaves and then he
Speaker 2: was and he said something else and he came back
Speaker 2: and he said something and then Rob was just pissed,
Speaker 2: and so Rob goes out to the balcony and he's
Speaker 2: like leaning off at yelling at the guy, and the
Speaker 2: guy was like, yeah, well, don't don't f with me.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm your worst nightmare.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, WHOA, Like, buddy, you don't know what
Speaker 2: my worst nightmares? And I'm still I get out. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't even know my worst nightmare is.
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what. I was threatened once
Speaker 2: by the electric company and they said they're going to
Speaker 2: shut my shit off and they did, and I'm scarred
Speaker 2: from this, you know. I was like, I don't respond
Speaker 2: to threats well and I'm going crazy. And then so
Speaker 2: we filed a grievance on them, and at that time
Speaker 2: this place, I think they kind of cared. But the
Speaker 2: HR lady met with me and my friend Lance, who
Speaker 2: was working downstate for a little bit. They called me
Speaker 2: in and Lance was like intern guy just just kind
Speaker 2: of stepped into the role of like, let me in
Speaker 2: turn under this HR lady and it's like, so what happened?
Speaker 2: And then I went through the threat thing and then
Speaker 2: I was like and then you know, I was like,
Speaker 2: how do I know that. I didn't use this word,
Speaker 2: but a little person biker gang isn't going to kidnap me,
Speaker 2: hold me in their basement and start doing sexual things
Speaker 2: to me for weeks and then no one knows, and
Speaker 2: I'd start just this elaborate story about how this little
Speaker 2: person biker gang was going to do bad things to me.
Speaker 2: But it all goes back to the Arkansas story of
Speaker 2: watching these people. Not these people, but the group of gentlemen.
Speaker 2: I think one thing they didn't have was a woman
Speaker 2: on the back. That would have been sweet. That would
Speaker 2: have been that they could have souped up their minibikes
Speaker 2: to be even badasser and I think I have a
Speaker 2: full sized woman on the back.
Speaker 1: The way that your brain was working so complex at
Speaker 1: this point in your sobriety, that was a good sign. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm going with That was a good sign.
Speaker 3: I think his brain's always worked like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, you lose a little function
Speaker 1: there when we're in the heaviest parts of it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, imagine when I could have been huh, you
Speaker 2: know that there's that whole little comedian guy.
Speaker 3: I can't think of his name right off him something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you're telling us that story of the apple one. No,
Speaker 3: when he was trying to go over the baby gate.
Speaker 4: And he was like was his arm up, like let
Speaker 4: me up, help me out, just like you know this gate.
Speaker 1: It's hard to look sexy when you need help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not a mini bike look sexy as hell,
Speaker 2: especially if we have it looking like a hardy now.
Speaker 2: But yes, yesterday, Mitch, you had quite the day. You
Speaker 2: had like four people you took to or from treatment,
Speaker 2: like you were just bam bam, bam bam. You're driving
Speaker 2: all over northern Michigan, and I could kind of tell
Speaker 2: when you came back to work you had like this.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it like justin but I won't
Speaker 2: have like this aura about you. And I think that
Speaker 2: is from the recovery coaching that you were doing on
Speaker 2: the way, because when I was talking with a gentleman
Speaker 2: that was here and we were kind of talking about
Speaker 2: recovery stuff, and you just like jumped right in like yep,
Speaker 2: I've been talking about this all day, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like this fresh time, you know.
Speaker 2: But that's that's the that's the kind of aura that
Speaker 2: that you had going you know, and it was just
Speaker 2: like this this vibe you're giving off and you just
Speaker 2: seem like you accomplished a lot. Like you when you
Speaker 2: went home, I think you felt damn good about yourself.
Speaker 1: Felt tired, yeah, and damn good about yoursel I mean
Speaker 1: it was a good war out, Like I accomplished stuff
Speaker 1: that day. I went home and I earned my rest,
Speaker 1: you know. But I'm glad it looked like that because
Speaker 1: I was. I walked in here feeling just like mentally drained. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I used it, you know, didn't lose it. I
Speaker 1: used it, So it'll drain you. It really will. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand that. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people are like, I.
Speaker 2: Want to be a recover coach, Like okay, that's cool,
Speaker 2: but take that time for yourself, you know, like have
Speaker 2: that time to to just come down for a minute,
Speaker 2: you know, and get back in your own life and
Speaker 2: things you got going on. They say, you know, gratitude
Speaker 2: lists are great, you know, even to this day. Know
Speaker 2: if you had to grab a pad of paper and
Speaker 2: write ten things you're grateful for and just think, wow,
Speaker 2: like these things wouldn't be possible if I wasn't in recovery.
Speaker 1: You have to remember that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like a lot of people too, will take
Speaker 2: on other people's problems. You know, they don't know how
Speaker 2: to deal with that. And you know, oh, this person's
Speaker 2: living in their storage unit. You know, we got to
Speaker 2: do something about it. Well, what we can do about
Speaker 2: it is what we can do about it, you know,
Speaker 2: like you can make effort to do something about it,
Speaker 2: but it's not always going to work out. You can't
Speaker 2: always help that person immediately. But there's some steps that
Speaker 2: you can take to maybe speed up the process. And
Speaker 2: you know, an hour here is an hour here, you know,
Speaker 2: like an hour that the person doesn't have to stay
Speaker 2: in the storage unit, you know longer. Then that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and some people will just laugh at it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's funny. I don't know who would, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sensitive person.
Speaker 1: A d bag. Now the yesterday the rides were really good.
Speaker 1: One of them was a little bit of a struggle.
Speaker 1: But what I tell myself at that point is I
Speaker 1: was that person at one point, you know, And because
Speaker 1: once you're doing certain people in certain states of mind
Speaker 1: or certain stages of sobriety or not sobriety, you're gonna
Speaker 1: not get as much of the recovery coaching through because
Speaker 1: they're not in a state of mind to receive it
Speaker 1: at all, you know, physically, their brain isn't gonna hear
Speaker 1: what you're saying, you know, So you know I'm saying
Speaker 1: you know a lot because I'm trying to think about it. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of really good ones yesterday and
Speaker 1: then one that was it was more difficult, but it
Speaker 1: was still rewarding because I needed a ride at that
Speaker 1: point at one you know, long time ago, and didn't
Speaker 1: get it. So I was able to give that to
Speaker 1: somebody and I enjoyed it. I slept damn good last night.
Speaker 1: But I remember those those days.
Speaker 2: It was like that when I was on the road
Speaker 2: a lot, and I.
Speaker 1: Just saw it in the yesterday and I was proud.
Speaker 3: It's proud you remember your days on the road.
Speaker 2: God, Yes, you know, five am getting up beating the
Speaker 2: sun up, not beating my son up, but beating the sunrise.
Speaker 2: That's him hanging out with Justin too long today now
Speaker 2: and Justin you had like a tough weekend man, Like
Speaker 2: you were telling me about it yesterday.
Speaker 3: It was just like, yeah, it was I went to
Speaker 3: go do my endorsement training for my motorcycle class that
Speaker 3: I had to scheduled back in like March, and because
Speaker 3: they just fill up really fast, because there's just not
Speaker 3: enough classes to meet the needs of everybody that wants
Speaker 3: to take this class. And so I went to go
Speaker 3: take the class on Saturday, and it was in the heat,
Speaker 3: like it was hot, humidity, sun beating down on us
Speaker 3: all day. We're on this in this parking lot. And
Speaker 3: the parking lot's all extra black too, you know, it
Speaker 3: wasn't one of the old dingy ones that it wasn't
Speaker 3: quite so black so it didn't absorb some heat.
Speaker 1: So it was like sitting on that thing that they
Speaker 1: put the burgers on at the fast food restaurant to
Speaker 1: keep them warm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like that, like like it was so hot,
Speaker 3: like our motorcycles were only like two fifties, just baby
Speaker 3: bikes really, and you could tell where the kickstand was
Speaker 3: already starting to go into the parking lot.
Speaker 1: It was like melting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, And it was just it was crazy how
Speaker 3: hot it was. So I get back to my mom's house,
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there my well, I'm gonna take shower. I'd
Speaker 3: go take a shower and I come back, I sit
Speaker 3: down at a little catch table for a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm like, probably didn't go upstairs and just sit down
Speaker 3: and relax for a little bit. And then she kind
Speaker 3: of got pissy, like for unknown reasons, like and then
Speaker 3: started saying, while making all this food this weekend and
Speaker 3: nobody would do it. I was like, Mom, I didn't
Speaker 3: ask you to do all this for me, Like you're
Speaker 3: doing this out the kindness of your heart, and you're
Speaker 3: trying to throw it in my face. And I kind
Speaker 3: of felt a little discouraged about it. And then I
Speaker 3: finally I was upstairs for about twenty minutes. I finally
Speaker 3: just went and sat outside. I'm like, fuck it, you know,
Speaker 3: at this point, why be comfortable. It kind of irritated
Speaker 3: me enough. I almost left and just came back up here,
Speaker 3: but I didn't want to drive from Traverse City all
Speaker 3: the way back down there for my class on Sunday, right,
Speaker 3: and so I just went outside. I didn't really speak
Speaker 3: to her for the next two hours, and she came
Speaker 3: outside at one point and was like, you know, justin
Speaker 3: I understand you're tired. You've been out in the sun
Speaker 3: all day. He goes upside.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't respond to her. I just sat there in
Speaker 3: my chair watched the Olympics off my phone because I
Speaker 3: heard the BMX bike races or whatever was really good
Speaker 3: this year, so I wanted to watch it. And so
Speaker 3: I just sat there and watched it off my phone
Speaker 3: outside in the heat. So what anymore that I was
Speaker 3: trying to prevent. And I'm a fat guy. I don't
Speaker 3: like the heat obviously, And so Sunday comes around and
Speaker 3: it's like this same thing, you know. It's like I
Speaker 3: get back and I passed my class. I get back
Speaker 3: to the house and I'm like, I looked at the time,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, i'd really like to leave here
Speaker 3: by six o'clock. I want to get home by eight
Speaker 3: nine o'clock because I had to stop get mailed from
Speaker 3: my old roommates apartment. And I just sat there and
Speaker 3: I looked at the time. I'm like, what the hell
Speaker 3: is she doing? Like really like what's going on? And
Speaker 3: it finally about six o'clock, she finally put the burgers
Speaker 3: on the grill man and I told her at that point,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm eating and leaving since I'm done eating,
Speaker 3: Like I'm just not gonna sit here and hang out
Speaker 3: like I'm not. It's already past the time I wanted
Speaker 3: to leave. So I spent all weekend irritated to the max.
Speaker 3: And that's what it's like to hang out with people
Speaker 3: that still use substances. It just they don't care about
Speaker 3: anyone else's time frame or schedule. Only personally care about
Speaker 3: is themselves. And it's really sad, you know. It's just
Speaker 3: it's heartbreaking to be like, you know, because if we're
Speaker 3: all sober and you said you had to leave at
Speaker 3: a certain time to go home and be with Parker,
Speaker 3: we'd be like, Okay, well we'll make sure it's done
Speaker 3: by then, you know, not at the time you gotta leave. Oh,
Speaker 3: we're just finally gonna do this. Well, deuces, I'm out
Speaker 3: of here.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It makes you irritated, it makes you pissed off, you know,
Speaker 3: and it's just it just makes me wonder why why
Speaker 3: I still put myself in that situation sometimes, you know,
Speaker 3: because if it wasn't my mom, what I even hang
Speaker 3: out with said person? Probably not because it's a sluddown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom?
Speaker 2: Yeah do you think? Okay, I know for a fact,
Speaker 2: and Mitch, you can probably back me up on this too.
Speaker 2: If you would have said, too, said person, your mom,
Speaker 2: how about you don't crack that until after we have
Speaker 2: them burgers. Them burgers would have been made at seven
Speaker 2: thirty in the morning probably, you know, like they wouldn't
Speaker 2: have like that would have been like, Okay, what do
Speaker 2: I have to do so I can have that at
Speaker 2: because that's the most important thing to them. And there's
Speaker 2: one of a said person in my life. It's not
Speaker 2: my mom that thinks, well, I don't have a problem
Speaker 2: because I'm not like Corey, I'm not that bad. I
Speaker 2: don't have the shakes. I didn't have to go to
Speaker 2: the hospital because my liver failed. So I am not
Speaker 2: a bad person. Because that's what a lot of people
Speaker 2: think that they're bad people. But they're not bad people.
Speaker 2: It's addiction, and the addiction takes over a lot a
Speaker 2: lot of things. But a lot of people will will justify, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm not that bad because I'm not shaking every day.
Speaker 3: And there's an incident came up to this weekend because
Speaker 3: my brother tried changing his mailing address. They the day
Speaker 3: he went into jail. She's like, you know, I hounded
Speaker 3: him for two weeks about doing this so that way,
Speaker 3: if something happened, he would be out here to take
Speaker 3: care of it. I'm like, don't you understand how addiction works? Mom?
Speaker 3: We don't care about that shit. Yeah, he went and
Speaker 3: did it the day of that's what we do. Be
Speaker 3: lucky he even did that, right, Like a lot of
Speaker 3: times we don't care about that dumb shit, like that's
Speaker 3: behind us. We're worried about the bottle or the bag,
Speaker 3: take your pick, depending what your cup of tea is,
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm just like, you have to understand
Speaker 3: how this works, like both your kids have addiction issues
Speaker 3: and you're just what done with life? Done doing it?
Speaker 3: Like that's not how it goes, Like he will get better,
Speaker 3: Like you have to believe that he's gonna get better.
Speaker 3: Otherwise you don't, like what are you doing? You're just
Speaker 3: you don't have no hope, no faith in your own
Speaker 3: kid to get better and to do better things. You
Speaker 3: may as well start buying a burial platinw Then I
Speaker 3: told her, and she was She kind of looked at
Speaker 3: me like I was being too harsh, Like what's the truth.
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's what you're saying, that he's gonna end
Speaker 3: up doing, And.
Speaker 2: I wonder if she beats herself up a little. And
Speaker 2: maybe that's kind of the thing, because there's always something
Speaker 2: that we're using for. There's something that you know, bannonment
Speaker 2: issues or you know, mistakes we made in the past,
Speaker 2: and once we get drunk or high or whatever, we
Speaker 2: don't remember them, or we can get that fuck it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: who cares. I just keep drinking. I don't even care,
Speaker 2: you know. And if she looks at it, like man,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of parents do. They'll be like,
Speaker 2: I messed up, and I shouldn't have let them do this,
Speaker 2: and I shouldn't have had this at their party. I
Speaker 2: shouldn't have done this, I shouldn't have done that, and
Speaker 2: there's nothing they can do about it now. But a
Speaker 2: lot of parents will beat themselves up. And I think
Speaker 2: that's why a lot of people like to keep it
Speaker 2: down in the basement. Nothing to see here, no problem,
Speaker 2: don't tell nobody, you know. And I wonder if part
Speaker 2: of that is something that she has deep down it
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I'm screwed, justin up totally.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it. My brother, though, is
Speaker 3: too is just the fact that you know, he's been
Speaker 3: getting in trouble since he was thirteen. Started with stealing
Speaker 3: a cart and of cigarettes from Meyer or maybe a
Speaker 3: couple backs, I don't really remember, but really when they
Speaker 3: just had a little cigarette carousel things and that before
Speaker 3: you checked out. Yeah, he got caught stealing some cigarettes
Speaker 3: from one of those and ended up getting in trouble.
Speaker 3: Like a year later, he wrote a bomb threat at
Speaker 3: the school on a piece of paper that said there's
Speaker 3: a bomb in the school, and like kind of threw
Speaker 3: it up on the bleachers and someone seeing him toss
Speaker 3: the note up there and went and checked it out,
Speaker 3: and so there was a bomb in the school. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm laughing, but it's really not funny, you know, Like
Speaker 3: he got expelled from school, and it's just been an
Speaker 3: ongoing thing his whole life, you know. So I wonder
Speaker 3: if sometimes she does sit back and wonder, well, where
Speaker 3: did I go wrong? Where did I messed up?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And a lot of it is my eyes. He was
Speaker 3: baby to his whole life. He didn't really have to
Speaker 3: do nothing, he just didn't. It was the baby of
Speaker 3: the family. So he got that like get out of
Speaker 3: jail free cards. She's always bailed him out.
Speaker 2: Then I wonder if she just you know, looks back
Speaker 2: at that and it seems like it would kind of
Speaker 2: suck or hurt, you know, like as parents. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, we know that our parents
Speaker 2: aren't perfect. We know that nobody's perfect. We know that
Speaker 2: everybody makes mistakes, but we, I would assume, are going
Speaker 2: to try to be better, you know, and some of
Speaker 2: the mistakes that we felt they made, will try not
Speaker 2: to make those, and we'll make our own mistakes along
Speaker 2: the way too.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 1: Well, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know there's something there I think where that
Speaker 2: would keep somebody else like stuck a.
Speaker 3: Little Yeah, Because she even made the comment to me
Speaker 3: was she was like, well, when he gets out of jail,
Speaker 3: he ain't coming here. I don't know where he's going.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I do hopefully he comes and lives
Speaker 3: with me, and hopefully I can show him a good path,
Speaker 3: you know, to live, because he talks about how he
Speaker 3: wants to be in recovery, how he wants to do
Speaker 3: these things, but being stuck down there where there's nothing, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's no employment opportunity, there's just nothing down there.
Speaker 2: There's absolutely nothing in Baldwin, Michigan.
Speaker 3: No, there's not. You you went through there, didn't.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I made sure not to go through there because I've
Speaker 2: noticed there was nothing there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, we want to go to like
Speaker 2: a place where we can eat food video not roadkill.
Speaker 2: That was so perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's really nothing there Spike Brother's.
Speaker 2: Video if you haven't seen it two seventeen recovery dot Com.
Speaker 2: There's a picture of Baldwin in there where Justin's from.
Speaker 3: And so I've talked to him a lot since, like
Speaker 3: he's been in jail and stuff, and he's just like,
Speaker 3: you know, I just I need someone to give me
Speaker 3: the opportunity like you have. And I'm just like, I'll
Speaker 3: do it once, Like I offered the last time you
Speaker 3: were in jail to do this for you, and you
Speaker 3: chose not to take it. It's the last time, dogs bro. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well that's why I heard. But you know, I'm in
Speaker 3: a spot where he could bring his little dog, you know,
Speaker 3: and his little dog's cool. Yeah. I love his little dog.
Speaker 3: He's a fun little dude. He's just relaxed, chill.
Speaker 1: Cats, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tell him to get the kiddy all the time
Speaker 3: because he loves cats. He loves playing with him. You know,
Speaker 3: he was raised around cats, so they're they're just like
Speaker 3: a normal They're like a cousin to him, you know.
Speaker 4: And so he just steps up siblings.
Speaker 3: No, no, stop siblings, dude, what no way? But no,
Speaker 3: you know, I just told him. I was like, I'll
Speaker 3: help you, but you know, you bring your c you
Speaker 3: try to bring your crazy wife up here, you will
Speaker 3: be gone.
Speaker 2: Where is where is she going to go? Justin?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: She was down in the Detroit area, like the last
Speaker 3: month he was out, still on bond, and then he
Speaker 3: goes to jail and all of a sudden she's back
Speaker 3: in Baldwin trying to visit him every day and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I'm just like, dude, what what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like she was the town bicycle the last time you
Speaker 3: were in jail.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: Everybody gets a ride? And I'm just like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing? Perfect trap you like, you know, just you
Speaker 3: just need to not worry about anybody. You need to
Speaker 3: worry about yourself and become extremely selfish in that sense,
Speaker 3: you know, worry about how Josh is gonna take care
Speaker 3: of Josh and how Josh doesn't want to live on
Speaker 3: his little eight hundred dollars solid security check because he
Speaker 3: broke his neck. Like there's work you can do that
Speaker 3: doesn't involve breaking your back to do it. Like there's
Speaker 3: work all over the place, Like get the hell out
Speaker 3: of here and make a life for yourself and actually
Speaker 3: do good for yourself. And I just hope he takes it,
Speaker 3: you know, and does good things like I did, you know,
Speaker 3: And I just hope to see him actually do good
Speaker 3: one day.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck with that, justin. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of responsibility to take in. It'll be all right.
Speaker 1: So you come home and he's been using what are
Speaker 1: you gonna say.
Speaker 3: Kick his fucking ass over handslap? No, I'll literally kick
Speaker 3: his ass, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So you'll you'll fight him. Yeah, what if he
Speaker 1: calls the cops on you?
Speaker 3: He couldn't call no cops.
Speaker 2: What if he does, Oh he won't. What if his
Speaker 2: wife does.
Speaker 3: His wife won't even be around. I'll dig a hole
Speaker 3: out in the back forties for.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: All right, now we're going to back to court. Mete.
Speaker 1: Everybody's been talking about murder lately. I'm like, guys, no
Speaker 1: more murder. Who's been talking about murder? So I went
Speaker 1: to the beach with some people, and the one person
Speaker 1: wouldn't stop talking about it every time it was murderless
Speaker 1: murder that. I was like, no, no murder, this is
Speaker 1: That was my saturday. So I was having a real
Speaker 1: rough saturday at the beach.
Speaker 2: People say were they saying, I'm gonna kill that kiddie?
Speaker 2: I mean, what were they? How were they saying that? Like, no,
Speaker 2: I want to murder that person over there. And then
Speaker 2: yesterday one of my rides, the difficult one, it.
Speaker 3: Was I'm gonna murder this and murder that.
Speaker 1: I was like, we don't. We're gonna We're gonna stop
Speaker 1: the murder now or no more murder talk. We're going
Speaker 1: to treatment. You know, it's just everybody this murder happening
Speaker 1: around me. I'm like, I just want people to live,
Speaker 1: love each other, sixties in this bubble.
Speaker 2: Trying to not murder people, trying to like have people
Speaker 2: get their lives back. And yeah, m hm hmm. Well,
Speaker 2: we don't know your honor, if this was a real
Speaker 2: podcast or not satire, So justin we don't. We don't
Speaker 2: condone anything he said.
Speaker 3: Only thing that I said was a hole. I did
Speaker 3: say what was put in the hole? I just had
Speaker 3: to dig a hole.
Speaker 1: Dig it for her so she could put anything she
Speaker 1: wants in that hole.
Speaker 3: That's right, like her whole self, what whatever ccs fit
Speaker 3: if she chooses to.
Speaker 2: I told her not to put that plastic bag on
Speaker 2: her head, right and getting that hole and bury herself.
Speaker 1: But she didn't. She's crazy, right.
Speaker 4: She is crazy, like literally crazy. See, it's the murder
Speaker 4: in the plastic bag. That's not the first time that's
Speaker 4: coming up either. I'm worried about you guys. The plastic
Speaker 4: bath thing. It was kind of like a suggestion.
Speaker 3: Who was annoying you enough to keep these in your head?
Speaker 3: I didn't tell her to snort the tablespoon the water.
Speaker 1: We're back there, speaking of water, I have to the
Speaker 1: plants today.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a Friday thing? It's Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I can't remember when I did it. Last week it happened,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember when.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I attempted to do a good podcast today.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there was some recovery stuff in there.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping there was, but just an early recovery. If
Speaker 2: you get the thoughts in your head, just keep them there,
Speaker 2: Let them be thoughts your brain's lying to the high.
Speaker 1: It's not that good. No, the buzz, it's not that good.
Speaker 2: And and you'll know it the minute you make that
Speaker 2: bad choice, you're gonna realize what did I do? And
Speaker 2: it's not even that good. But if it does happen,
Speaker 2: you can always come back, you know, keep trying, don't
Speaker 2: give up on yourself. That had a woman tell me
Speaker 2: the other day she wasn't worth it, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: think everybody's worth it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually got a text message last week that
Speaker 3: said the same thing. I'm just not worth it. I said, yes,
Speaker 3: you are worth it. Recovery is worth it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be surprised with what you can be and
Speaker 1: what you can become.
Speaker 2: Right, So, anyway, thanks for listening and we'll talk to
Speaker 2: you again the time of month you later.
Speaker 1: Hi, thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast.
Speaker 2: Listen to over nine hundred episodes on the two seventeen
Speaker 2: Recovery app that's free in your app store or online
Speaker 2: at two seventeen recovery dot com