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<v Speaker 1>Well whiskey coming take money, Oh why don't you? From

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<v Speaker 1>Powerline blog dot com and produced by Ricochet dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Three Whiskey Happy Hour with your bartenders

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hayward, John You and power Lines International Woman of

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<v Speaker 1>Mystery Lucretia Got.

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<v Speaker 2>You Gotta giving?

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<v Speaker 3>Let that whiskey clone when you're being in love down

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<v Speaker 3>and Loon.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome everybody to the Three Whiskey Happy Hour. This is

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<v Speaker 4>a very special edition of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour,

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<v Speaker 4>even more special than every special edition is special. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm working on my chemalisms because it's we are recording

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<v Speaker 4>on Halloween, not my favorite holiday in the world, in

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<v Speaker 4>the world, but I used to like it when the

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<v Speaker 4>little children came in their costumes to the door. We

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<v Speaker 4>get a ton of children, but they're all middle school

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<v Speaker 4>and above. Now it seems like and I think all

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<v Speaker 4>the nice couples with their little ones and the strollers

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<v Speaker 4>take them to trunk or treat somewhere at their church

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<v Speaker 4>or something, you know, because just not all that. They

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<v Speaker 4>do something in a parking lot and everybody comes and

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<v Speaker 4>fills their trunks with candy, and you go around and

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I've never been to one, but it seems

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<v Speaker 4>to be popular, and I will tell you guys, it's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of interesting. Really quickly, there were a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>Mexicans who showed up to trick or treat in my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, not very far away from Mexico, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't ever recall that being the case. A lot of

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<v Speaker 4>U and driving in cars down the street coming out

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<v Speaker 4>because the cars are at the houses a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>far apart here. And yeah, that was, I mean not

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<v Speaker 4>even speaking English kind of thing. So anyway, I made

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<v Speaker 4>it through, and I'm wondering if you guys were drinking

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<v Speaker 4>what I was drinking. It certainly wasn't smokehead high voltage.

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<v Speaker 4>I lay whiskey, Steve, is that like thatfy seven proof

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, which is pretty high for whiskey.

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<v Speaker 3>No, fifty seven is low.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, get one hundred and fourteen proof.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mix them up.

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<v Speaker 4>But Ghosted Reserve twenty six year old. It is a

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<v Speaker 4>blended whiskey, which okay, I know, I know for us purists,

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<v Speaker 4>but but here's the thing. It's called ghosted. Ghosted whiskey

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<v Speaker 4>is whiskey, blended whiskey that's made with casks of whiskey

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<v Speaker 4>from distilleries that are no longer in business. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's there's three or four of them that are supposedly

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<v Speaker 4>very famous and very expensive. So for Halloween, we were

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<v Speaker 4>celebrating ghosted whiskey. What are you guys drinking?

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<v Speaker 3>I just had wine because I was out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're still trying to work off this will it

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<v Speaker 2>which will take me forever?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I was waiting to start to pour it. Yeah, very good.

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<v Speaker 4>It pours nice sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what are you going to talk about? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there is a lucretia, you know, the end

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<v Speaker 3>of a bad basketball game. The announcers say, well, we're

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<v Speaker 3>into garbage time, and that's come back to me this week, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, sorry, hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get ahead of me here. I got stuff to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about. That's actually that is next. I know, one

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<v Speaker 4>last thing about Halloween. Three little girls I'm guessing they

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<v Speaker 4>were eight to nine year old. They were triplets. Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>they show up dressed like garbage collectors. Anyway, what do

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<v Speaker 4>you guys think? The last thing I saw on the

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<v Speaker 4>TV was that Trump. You know, this was one of

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's stupid stunts. He actually got in a It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't his garbage truck, you guys. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't actually drive it because he doesn't have a license

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<v Speaker 4>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't tell whether those those tweets were serious or

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<v Speaker 3>whether there are people mocking the media for, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>complaining about he didn't really work in Bcgonalds. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to tell these days. How do you tell

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<v Speaker 3>satire from the real thing anymore?

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<v Speaker 4>It was one of them was in political and was serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Really? Oh god?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, although this is That's another reason it's a genius move.

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<v Speaker 2>Because now every time some liberal says he's committing an

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<v Speaker 2>OSHA violation, I'm sure except another vote in Pennsylvania, we.

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<v Speaker 4>Should probably fry just a little context for any reader

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<v Speaker 4>who might have, you know, been in a coma for

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<v Speaker 4>the last four or five days. What a crazy four

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<v Speaker 4>or five days it's been up until Halloween. The so

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<v Speaker 4>at Trump's rally at the Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden.

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<v Speaker 4>It started out with some comedian who made an off

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<v Speaker 4>color joke about Puerto Ricans. Everybody makes jokes about Puerto Ricans, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, you guys, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an unforced erar, that's right, Like that probably

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<v Speaker 2>because Trump, because you know, if Trump gave a really

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<v Speaker 2>good speech, it might have been his best speech of

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>And he didn't know anything about it. It wasn't somebody

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<v Speaker 4>okay or so he said, but it was still everybody

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<v Speaker 4>makes those kind of off color jokes, all right, So

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<v Speaker 4>yes he has. But it didn't matter. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't the reason. They called everybody there, including all of

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<v Speaker 4>the people at their Israeli flags, Nazis. So they went

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<v Speaker 4>on and on about it for three days. And then

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<v Speaker 4>kamalamading Dong does a speech her supposedly her last major speech.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would it be her last major speech? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, at the Ellipse, trying to sort of provide

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<v Speaker 4>the imagery of what happened with Trump at the Ellipse

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<v Speaker 4>on January sixth, and but in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 4>Biden's on a phone call with the Voto Latin X,

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<v Speaker 4>which means that there's a stupid group anyway, because no

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<v Speaker 4>real Latin person would ever call themselves a Latin AX.

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<v Speaker 4>And he says he basically calls says the Puerto Rican people.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew them, of course he did in Pennsylvania, wherever

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<v Speaker 4>he's from. But the real garbage floating around are his supporters,

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<v Speaker 4>which is exactly what he said. The tapes played over

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<v Speaker 4>and over, so then of course the White House said, no,

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<v Speaker 4>there's an apostrophe.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't hear the apostrophe. Yeah, I heard an umlaut.

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<v Speaker 4>But the latest thing I saw was that not just Congress,

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<v Speaker 4>but the Official Stenographers organization is very upset because they

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<v Speaker 4>changed the transcript. And that's actually problematic for all these

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<v Speaker 4>different reasons, and Congress is going to investigate. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>so Trump Biden calls Trump supporters garbage after Hillary called

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<v Speaker 4>them deplorables and so on, and somebody, I guess, Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Rubio tells Trump on stage and he's just brilliant. And

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<v Speaker 4>then the next day they find a garbage truck, a

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<v Speaker 4>brand new, big, beautiful. It was a beautiful, beautiful. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the best beautiful garbage truck with you know, blazoned on

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<v Speaker 4>the side. And then so he gets on and he

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<v Speaker 4>makes them snarky comments. They're just perfect. And then he

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<v Speaker 4>goes into the rally and he's got the orange vest

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<v Speaker 4>on and he says, give me my jacket. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to take this thing off. And he's telling this at

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<v Speaker 4>the rally and they're like, okay, sir, you should wear it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not wearing this, give me my jacket. Well, sir,

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<v Speaker 4>it makes you look thinner. And the crowd goes nuts

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<v Speaker 4>and he says, so so I'm wearing it, and he says,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna wear that blue jacket again for the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the campaign. I mean I was. I was

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<v Speaker 4>driving down the road laughing, my you know what, yea,

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<v Speaker 4>what was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the whole five minutes, I mean, the lead up

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<v Speaker 3>to that was him talking about, Oh, I had to

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<v Speaker 3>climb up in his truck and it's really tall, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know he is, he is an overweight, seventy eight

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<v Speaker 3>year old guy. But he did it right, hit me

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<v Speaker 3>and I did it. Yeah. The subtext there is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden he once claimed to have driven a long

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<v Speaker 3>haul over the road truck. Couldn't do that, right, we

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<v Speaker 3>all know. Anyway, No, it was he had great fun

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<v Speaker 3>telling that story. And you know, Trump said his best

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<v Speaker 3>when he's talking about these kind of things, rather than terriffs,

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<v Speaker 3>I think. But there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great showman too. Yeah, right, it's a great showman.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a great timing and sense of putting on

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<v Speaker 2>a show. By the way, I was thinking, who are

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<v Speaker 2>all these nimble, athletic garbageman that you're comparing him to?

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<v Speaker 2>Who can leap up into a cab of a garbage

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<v Speaker 2>truck so easily? I mean, he doesn't look that different

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<v Speaker 2>than a lot of the garbage.

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<v Speaker 3>Well okay, well.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they're not all maybe they have steps. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>but he said that guy that he that was driving

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<v Speaker 4>the garbage truck was a young looked like a young

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<v Speaker 4>carry grant.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's right, Yeah, really handsome guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>That was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Iver. Tell you guys, I had was when I was

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<v Speaker 2>an intern reporter for the Wall Street Journal. I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a story about the highway system, and so one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things I did is I got in the cab

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<v Speaker 2>of an eighteen wheeler and drove it along with the

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<v Speaker 2>driver across Louisiana because Louisiana had the worst highways. It

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<v Speaker 2>was great. I loved being in that truck. I bet Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet Trump. What they should have done is have

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<v Speaker 2>Trump drive the truck and go into the drive in

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<v Speaker 2>and at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 4>They need me because there's no driving I know of

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's driving I know of that would have accommodated that truck.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, but still it would have been fun to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it would have been fun. The guy's a genius

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<v Speaker 4>from that point of view. And you know, it just

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what happened to Kamala's joy. Maybe she

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<v Speaker 4>just transferred it in a you know, counts over to

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's campaign because there's lots of joy there and is

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<v Speaker 4>so is it desperation? I you know, you can speculate

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<v Speaker 4>all day long about whether Biden did that purposefully called

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<v Speaker 4>you know, called Trump supporters garbage, or whether he is

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<v Speaker 4>just senile and stupid. It's hard to tell. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what you guys think. A lot of speculation, So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I got to thinking about somebody was asking me

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<v Speaker 3>earlier today about Project twenty twenty five, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>that whole controversy, and I got to think, how come

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<v Speaker 3>the Democratic candidates never put out their own version of

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<v Speaker 3>Project twenty twenty five. No, I mean, the pattern for

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<v Speaker 3>Democratic candidates for the last thirty years has been to

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<v Speaker 3>conceal their ideas, to conceal their leftism, and run on

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<v Speaker 3>attacking I'm not Trump, I'm not Romney whatever. They never

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<v Speaker 3>put out detailed blueprints of what they want to do

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<v Speaker 3>or who they want to hire, right, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very telling and it's really gotten the

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<v Speaker 3>worst ever with Harris and so I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 3>my first thought is that's all they've got is to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, call names and these crazy stunts of trying

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<v Speaker 3>to track men by threatening to take away their poor

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<v Speaker 3>and that's on your list, I know. Or have you

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<v Speaker 3>seen this ad narrated by Julia Roberts about oh, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Get to talk about that one because you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>actually joined a knitting group so that on Tuesday I

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<v Speaker 4>could pretend that I was going to my knitting group

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<v Speaker 4>and so mister Lucretia would not know that I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to go out and vote for for Okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>Believe it or not, but I don't belong to a

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<v Speaker 4>that does whatever Trump tells her to. Never mind Ivanka no, Evanna,

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<v Speaker 4>I get him mixed up? Evanna Laura Trump you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Don't have to be nice. She's a lying dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, what can I just mention? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>how come media never says to Democrats, why do you

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans by such a huge margin? Shouldn't it be the

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<v Speaker 3>gender gap? But be a two way street. It's never

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you get the respond to the original question, which

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<v Speaker 2>well from Biden actually what he thinks? Or was it

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bitter clingers. You guys are the experts on left

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<v Speaker 4>But the difference is they're usually much more subtle about it.

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<v Speaker 4>actually a little more specific, John, not that you didn't

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<v Speaker 4>answer a good portion of it, but mine was, did

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<v Speaker 4>Biden do this to undermine Harris?

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<v Speaker 4>That's my question. I probably didn't express it very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I don't think. I think Biden actually

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<v Speaker 4>He actually for him. I actually think he's very unhappy

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but nobody, nobody wants him he's not campaigning for

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they bring the candidates up, but whatever state

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<v Speaker 3>she goes to, she'll do that. That's that's sort of normal.

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<v Speaker 4>But are avoiding her though, That's what I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look Obama, well, look Obama and Bill Clinton

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<v Speaker 3>are out on the campaign trail and they're appearing with candidates,

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<v Speaker 4>Be they're also dissing, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, you know, leave that aside for the moment. The

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<v Speaker 3>point is they're out there and Biden's not. And By's

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<v Speaker 3>always been a bitter, petty, thin skinned guy. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think John he can have two thoughts in mind at once.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them is, yeah, I hate Trump, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>the pride in the guy. You know, if Harris loses,

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<v Speaker 3>I can boast forever that I'm the only person who

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<v Speaker 3>ever did beat Trump. Now that's the bragging rights for him.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you know, I don't know, I could see

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<v Speaker 3>wanting revenge on his own party for pushing him aside.

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<v Speaker 3>Add to that, by the way, I think I said

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<v Speaker 3>this once before, but where's Gavin Newsom out on the

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<v Speaker 3>campaign trail? Where's Witmer? Where's Josh Sapiro? I guess has

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<v Speaker 3>turned up a couple of Pennsylvania things, all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I guarantee you want her to lose. Oh yeah, specially

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<v Speaker 3>four years and eight years from now, the next chance

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<v Speaker 3>they'd all have, they'll beat yesterday's news. There'll be new

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<v Speaker 3>candidates come along, they'll miss their chance. Their only chance

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<v Speaker 3>to run for the top ring is four years from now,

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<v Speaker 3>when Trump would leave office. So none of them want

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<v Speaker 3>Harris to win, and they may not be overtly undermining her,

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<v Speaker 3>but I know that privately they want her to lose, such.

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<v Speaker 4>As the one person you were wrong about that is Whitmer.

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<v Speaker 4>She has actually been campaigning with Chris.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, didn't you see the whole cringey beer. Anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 4>of them anyway. Okay, Well, I think that that Biden

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<v Speaker 4>moments of clarity, and that the question I mean, because

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<v Speaker 4>what John said is absolutely right. Was it just a

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<v Speaker 4>malaproprism or was it what you know, who knows? Was

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<v Speaker 4>it his sinility? The fact that the Democrats at the

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<v Speaker 4>left and the media are claiming it was his sinility

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<v Speaker 4>and we should have shown a little grace about it,

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<v Speaker 4>tells me that they actually think he did it on purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, again, all the back room chatter about

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<v Speaker 4>you to believe that that things are not rosy there.

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<v Speaker 4>But in the meantime, Biden, if he's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>be president, he can always go out and bite babies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't see that, John.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just weird.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Halloween party at the at the White House

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<v Speaker 4>Halloween costume on, and Biden walks up and bites him

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<v Speaker 4>on the leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, it's uh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna pull

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<v Speaker 3>that weird. I mean it's yeah, I mean this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's not it yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's hard to say one way or

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<v Speaker 4>the other. So okay, I don't I still don't get.

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<v Speaker 2>It anyway to a garbage man.

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<v Speaker 4>Your explanation, both of your explanation is a good start.

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<v Speaker 4>But still they want to win so badly. Why are

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<v Speaker 4>they making these mistakes? Why why can't they they shut

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<v Speaker 4>up long enough to I mean, to pretend that they

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that the way that leftists and democrats usually conduct themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>They lie about who they are, They lie about what

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<v Speaker 4>they know that they could never get Americans to go

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<v Speaker 4>for it if they were honest about it. But all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, all of these idiots are out there saying,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, no strong women, women are you know, so

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<v Speaker 4>cast their vote, and they actually had one for men too.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see that? Yes, three guys walking into the

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<v Speaker 4>the patriotically? You bet I did. It's so awful. I

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<v Speaker 3>Well? I mean I think it's pretty simple losing campaigns,

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<v Speaker 3>mean again, you know my moml for this was George H. W.

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<v Speaker 3>Bush in nineteen ninety two. Nothing they did worked, Things

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<v Speaker 3>all that. And then Bush fly with attack on Gore,

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<v Speaker 3>which I liked actually, but he called him o Zone man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you got this crazy guy from Arkansas and

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<v Speaker 3>I understood what he meant by that, but it totally

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's what's happening now is when Mark

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<v Speaker 3>Cuban says silly stuff, and you know, Biden says crazy stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and the campaign just has They've lost all control of

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<v Speaker 2>Do, but yet they're they're tied basically.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the amazing thing is that they've kept it so

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<v Speaker 5>close this whole time, and that it still looks like

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<v Speaker 5>change the outcome of the election. Well, except the third

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<v Speaker 5>of the vote is in is where you want to

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<v Speaker 5>go Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably, Yeah, fifty seven million people as of this afternoon

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<v Speaker 4>had cast their votes already in some states. Steve, it's

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<v Speaker 4>over half. Yeah, So how much does an October surprise,

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<v Speaker 4>actually a November surprise is what it would be. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>how much if an influence can it have? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what catastrophic thing might happen at this point

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<v Speaker 2>For well, if the battleground states are all they seem

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<v Speaker 2>all to be like within one or two percent, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>something could just change the outcome by causing fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>get to take it in. About ten days back, he

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<v Speaker 3>said someone has been approaching me with a story about

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<v Speaker 3>Trump that would end his campaign and end his political

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<v Speaker 3>career if it's true. And people thought, oh, and then

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<v Speaker 3>other people said, yeah, I've been pitched that story too,

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<v Speaker 3>And then Halpern came back the next day and said,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be clear, I think the story I've

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<v Speaker 3>been pitched is completely bogus. It's made up, its false.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought that he was raising all that because

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<v Speaker 3>he thinks somebody will bite on this story. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see the Guardian or some disreputable tabloid

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<v Speaker 3>come out with something insane about Trump in the next

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight hours. And I think, you know, a reporter

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<v Speaker 3>like Helpren has already laid down a marker to expect

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<v Speaker 3>something crazy like this to come along. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one possibility that I've filed a way for future notice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know. It seems as if the early

436
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<v Speaker 4>voting seems to be favoring Republicans, but not everywhere. I

437
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<v Speaker 4>don't believe it's I don't believe it's favoring Republicans, John

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<v Speaker 4>in your home state. I believe that in many places

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<v Speaker 4>in Pennsylvania where Trump needs to be doing better, he's

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<v Speaker 4>not doing well in the early voting. I've read that today,

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, I don't know. I do know that,

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<v Speaker 4>getting ahead of myself here, that Pennsylvania seems to be logging,

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<v Speaker 4>lots and lots of elect or shenanigans happening, And we'll

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<v Speaker 4>come back to that, but I thought i'd mentioned that there.

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<v Speaker 4>My favorite quote of the week, having just talked about

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<v Speaker 4>all that, is that Trump isn't running against Kamala Harris.

447
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<v Speaker 4>He's running against electoral fraud. In other words, Well, but

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's lots and lots of anecdotal evidence and

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<v Speaker 4>evidence that's making it's the way all the way to

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<v Speaker 4>the courts now in different places of just regularities. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you go into the voting booth and the voting machine

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<v Speaker 4>won't even allow you to vote for Trump, or we're

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<v Speaker 4>just smaller things like it's a two page long list

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<v Speaker 4>of presidential candidates, you know, with every third party waco

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<v Speaker 4>in the world there and Trump is on the second page.

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<v Speaker 4>You can go to the second page, you know, funny

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<v Speaker 4>little things like that that's not really voter fraud or

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<v Speaker 4>voter suppression or voter intimidation like some of the other

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<v Speaker 4>people are alleging. I mean, you just if you go

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter, you see this stuff all the time. John,

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<v Speaker 4>you should go on Twitter, or maybe they have it

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<v Speaker 4>on Facebook or maybe Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there's the problem. I mean, you really don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some of these stories you really have no

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<v Speaker 3>way of knowing if they're true or not because they're

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<v Speaker 3>not very well sourced. There isn't you know, a news

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<v Speaker 3>account do it even and even a news account, I

468
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<v Speaker 3>don't necessarily believe. I think what's significant, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>two things. One is they've caught some of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think it's I'm not sure it's a prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 3>but a county in Pennsylvania where they're extremely sloppy, to

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<v Speaker 3>put it charitably, they've caught it. They caught it here,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, week or ten days ahead of the election. No,

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<v Speaker 3>there are places I don't know, possibly, But that's the

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<v Speaker 3>second bigger point, which is, you know most of it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what we've argued about four years now. Most

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<v Speaker 3>voter fraud is usually on the local level, in local elections,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's around election can turn on less than a

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<v Speaker 3>thousand votes for a city council or mayor, or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a congressional district. That's happened a couple of times. At

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<v Speaker 3>least the industrial scale you would need to do in

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<v Speaker 3>this race, I think would be too conspicuous to get

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<v Speaker 3>away with it. In other words, you know Hewett's old

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<v Speaker 3>line is if the margin's big enough, they can't cheat.

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<v Speaker 3>In other words, I'm thinking, and you're gonna ask those

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<v Speaker 3>predictions later, but I think Trump's gonna win beyond the

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<v Speaker 3>margin of cheating.

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<v Speaker 4>That it's running against Kamala Harris, he's running against electoral fraud.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing you can see.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is I mean this, but this is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. Trump does have teams of lawyers all over,

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<v Speaker 2>including in Pennsylvania. And you know the thing, the thing

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that was most prominent was county officials in

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<v Speaker 2>some place closing down the line to casture mail in ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the but the county officials were mistaken and

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<v Speaker 2>they changed the they were, they changed their and the

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<v Speaker 2>judge actually I think had to Ultimately, no.

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<v Speaker 4>The county officials didn't do it. They went to a judge,

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<v Speaker 4>and the judge extended. The deadline was the thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, But I think, but look, I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I would. Look. My sense of it is

502
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<v Speaker 2>reading the stories that this was not done to hurt Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just these county officials misread the rules. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to judge intervened. But I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>step to say that these county officials are actually trying

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<v Speaker 2>to suppress the vote in favor of Trump. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not exactly clear, because I would think Republican voters

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania are still going to turn up more often

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<v Speaker 2>at the polling place, and that people who are mailing

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<v Speaker 2>in their ballots are actually going to be a majority Democrat.

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<v Speaker 4>Not this time, not at all in most places, well,

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<v Speaker 4>because they've been pushing Republicans to do.

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<v Speaker 2>What voting still George Authority are still Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>But John just said Pennsylvania, Lucretia. I mean, and you

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<v Speaker 3>you were just saying a minute ago, you got Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans are coming in light on mail and voting in

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<v Speaker 3>some places.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I saw videos and you can that for

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<v Speaker 4>what it's worth, John, But it's not as christine as

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00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 4>you make it out to be. First of all, it

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't always county officials. It was democratic operatives pretending to

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<v Speaker 4>be county officials, getting police to rough up people who

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't get out of line, who were saying, the line

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<v Speaker 4>is supposed to be open. We were here at four thirty,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't close till five, and the police were saying,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's this one police officers, just the typical

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<v Speaker 4>police officer jerk, just saying there's going to be trouble

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<v Speaker 4>for you if you don't get out of here right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the whole thing was not some stupid county officialscaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Right next to the county, right next to the county

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<v Speaker 2>that I grew up in. I know Lancaster County very well.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not a democratic county by any means. It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually Amish country. It's going to be conservative. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time believing the county officials and Lancaster were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to suppress a Republican vote this way. I'm not saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I read the accounts in like the Philadelphia Inquirer.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't look at Twitter. I didn't see any accounts

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<v Speaker 2>of police officers roughing people up. I mean, that's outrageous.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't believe that happened. I didn't see anybody.

541
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<v Speaker 2>But that's why I say I gotta be careful and

542
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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily believe things people post on Twitter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a judge there. I didn't see a judge make

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of determination that the police were roughing up

545
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<v Speaker 2>voters in line. I mean, that's really seriously, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just want to take a face value

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<v Speaker 2>someone posting something on Twitter saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I also don't take it at face value that

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<v Speaker 4>the county officials say they made a mistake. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>take that well at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, remember that our elections are run by amateurs, right,

552
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they're run by volunteers often.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, guys, five o'clock on October thirtieth, you don't shut

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<v Speaker 4>down the line early. You just don't. There's no excuse

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<v Speaker 4>for that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're the one that doesn't. But you're the one

557
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<v Speaker 3>who don't want to early voting at all. You want

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<v Speaker 3>to done an election day, right, do you matter?

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<v Speaker 4>If they are rules, you let people vote by the rules.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't vote early.

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<v Speaker 3>All those people can still vote an election day, though,

562
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<v Speaker 3>can't they?

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00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they were asking for early let's see on demand

564
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 4>mail in ballots, and maybe they can't. Maybe they're going

565
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<v Speaker 4>there because for whatever reason between now and then, they

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<v Speaker 4>needed a mail in ballot, and it's past the deadline that.

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<v Speaker 2>In Pennsylvania you can always go and vote in person

568
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 2>like they're a mailion mail and they'll give you a

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<v Speaker 2>mail in ballot, but you don't have to return it

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00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>and you can just go to the poll and vote

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<v Speaker 2>on election day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying this particular part of the procedure is this

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<v Speaker 4>last minute. I didn't ask for a mail in ballot

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<v Speaker 4>when I should have. But I can go stand in

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<v Speaker 4>line and on demand get a mail in ballot that

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<v Speaker 4>I can turn in because I realized I can't for

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<v Speaker 4>whatever reason vote in person now on election day. That's

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00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 4>that's the whole point. So yes, of course you can,

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<v Speaker 4>and probably some of them will. But the reason they

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<v Speaker 4>were doing it, presumably is because they didn't get a

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<v Speaker 4>mail in vallet, because they didn't think they needed to

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's I mean, it's a very specific kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, there were multiple things, and Twitter does

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00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 4>allow community rates and people to come back and say

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<v Speaker 4>this isn't true, and they have all sorts of things

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<v Speaker 4>on there. None of that was the case. They seem

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00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 4>to be pretty prominently displayed across Twitter. So you need

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<v Speaker 4>to take it for what it's worth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, like I said, if there was, they

590
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<v Speaker 2>did not follow the rules, and it's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think actually that Trump has lawyers around and if

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00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>there are irregularities go to court. I think ultimately, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it reinforces faith in the integrity election if both

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<v Speaker 2>sides have observers and then have every chance to challenge

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<v Speaker 2>what somebody, what some election official is doing. And so

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<v Speaker 2>if Pennsylvania's got like ten thousand lawyers from both sides

597
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>crawling all over the place watching, all the better and

598
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 2>they caught it and like officials themselves, the officials themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in these counties, I think it was like York County actually,

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00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>which is actually up in near the Great Lakes. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is right, they're the ones who you know, turned

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<v Speaker 2>in that some of these registration registrations were mysteriously in

603
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<v Speaker 2>the same handwriting and misspelled things in Michigan. Right. Yeah,

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00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't even the Trump lawyers that found that out,

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00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 2>that was just the officials themselves. These are all too similar. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, also, I mean one thing I'm not clear on

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<v Speaker 3>here Lucretia. Was this one precinct or was it the

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<v Speaker 3>county building?

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't in Lancaster.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in buck Well County, but I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was in Lancaster.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was Also the Lancaster was the problem you

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<v Speaker 4>were just talking about John the twenty six hundred, you

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<v Speaker 4>know where the county officials discovered it? That was Lancaster County.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Yeah, well that actually Bucks County has been a

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<v Speaker 3>swinging county that's not county.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to be a rural county, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in between Philadelphia and New York. So it's becoming a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more liberal because people who live there commute

620
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<v Speaker 2>can commute into New York City. Now. Yeah, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think conservative because it's still a rural county, primarily rural county,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's still I mean, I I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats have won it the last few elections.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's where the persistence guy has been out there

625
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<v Speaker 4>registering Republicans to vote. He flipped the registration from Democrat

626
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<v Speaker 4>to Republican in Bucks County.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. But now, okay, here's my question to Crease. It

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<v Speaker 3>was this just one precinct but this was happening, or

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<v Speaker 3>was the county administration building that was collecting votes for

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<v Speaker 3>the whole county or you know, twenty precincts. Well, see,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a see. I don't think one precinct is going

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<v Speaker 3>to make a difference in the in the election outcome.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the money it's going to make a difference either.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's wrong, okay, but I think a much bigger

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the vote fraud area or sketchy vote area,

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<v Speaker 3>a much bigger problem. Is the Democratic machine going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to harvest votes from a lot of marginal

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe even non voters who they're voting for them? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I think they could be alleged to have

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<v Speaker 3>done in twenty twenty and maybe even strictly speaking legal,

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<v Speaker 3>although actually it's not legal to vote for somebody else's ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll bet that's the kind of thing I think

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<v Speaker 3>that they might have done in twenty twenty and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what the big numbers are. It's not in some precinct

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<v Speaker 3>where you have people intimidating voters and whatnot. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let me remind you what the difference in the

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<v Speaker 4>vote in two thousand was in Florida. That wasn't a

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<v Speaker 4>case of intimidation. But what I'm saying is, if the

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<v Speaker 4>polls are even close to right about how close this

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<v Speaker 4>election is in the battleground states, it could make a

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<v Speaker 4>difference if you have twenty four hundred ballots that were

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<v Speaker 4>all signed by the same people. Or there's the one

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's in Georgia where the same voter ID

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<v Speaker 4>numbers used on something like two thousand, So two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>people voted on the same voter ID and you can

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<v Speaker 4>see the evidence of that. Again, maybe not, probably not,

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<v Speaker 4>but if it's a very close election, it just might.

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<v Speaker 4>And I agree with you that this is probably not

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<v Speaker 4>some grand conspiracy. It's usually just some rabidly fanatic county person.

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<v Speaker 4>Either they're incompetent or they're you know, an ideological hacker both,

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't think it's necessarily a mass attempt to

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<v Speaker 4>commit voter fraud. It's hard to say, though.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, well, now I think that. I think it's related.

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<v Speaker 3>It's on your list. It's one of the interesting interesting

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<v Speaker 3>things are these ballot boxes that were burned in Portland

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<v Speaker 3>and Vancouver, Washington, apparently by left wingers, you know, by

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<v Speaker 3>antifa like people.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, that's that's by pro Palestinian.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's right, that's left wingers, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's that's a little bit different. It's a little

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<v Speaker 4>more specific.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, the point is it's going to cause problems

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<v Speaker 3>for the people who want to expand drop boxes and

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<v Speaker 3>all the rest of that to make voting easier.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is it going to cause problems?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because if a right.

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<v Speaker 4>Winger had done it, and maybe people would be up

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<v Speaker 4>against it. But if a left winger did it, they

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00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 4>probably want to destroy ballots for right wingers. So everybody's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be okay with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I think if there's serious doubt among all

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<v Speaker 3>the look the government reformer people, the googoos I like

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<v Speaker 3>to call them, they're the ones who are for expanding

684
00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>mallet drop boxes, and if suddenly they're being destroyed by

685
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 3>left wing agitators or pro Hamas people, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>have to rethink all that. I don't think it matters

687
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<v Speaker 3>which side, does it. I kind of like it better

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<v Speaker 3>that's happening from left wingers, because you know, if they're

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<v Speaker 3>destroying if they're destroying drop boxes and Republican areas and say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>tough luck, but they're destroying ballot boxes in heavily democratic areas,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's that's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>See Okay, I see, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I should have said that straight up on the front.

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<v Speaker 3>They just destroyed two mail boxes full of Democrat votes.

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<v Speaker 4>Which won't matter. By the way, Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>If the Vancouver area is a swinging house district, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know the one I said, if it comes down

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<v Speaker 3>to a thousand votes, that box could make a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could. I want to ask John a who

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<v Speaker 4>he thinks might be winning the legal challenge battle out there,

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<v Speaker 4>the Trump team or the Harris team, And what does

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<v Speaker 4>all this mean? If so, we've had some decisions that

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<v Speaker 4>have come out before, even one from the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 4>before the election is over, making decisions that actually have

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<v Speaker 4>some impact on the election as it's being conducted right now.

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<v Speaker 4>But there will be more, right is that that's what

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<v Speaker 4>you were implying that you know, after the election is over,

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<v Speaker 4>there will also be challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>So there have been these two cases where the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court has made, you could say, make a difference. One

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<v Speaker 2>was it refused to kick RFK off the ballot in

712
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Michigan and Wisconsin, I think, which deferring to state election

713
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>officials judgments that he could he should stay on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>But then in Virginia, the Supreme Court overruled a district

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<v Speaker 2>judge who tried to block this effort by governor by

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<v Speaker 2>the governor to clean up some of the voter rules.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not a large number. I mean, there's only

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred people who were struck off the roles. And

719
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<v Speaker 2>these are people who had put on the driver's license

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00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>applications that they were not citizens. And so the Biden

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<v Speaker 2>Justice Department sued on behalf of these people and against

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia to get them to have the right to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's incredible. And so, you know, so that one

724
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<v Speaker 2>was you could say it was pro Trump, I would say,

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00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, the guiding principle in both of this is

726
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<v Speaker 2>that the Supreme Court isn't really voting for Trump or Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just following the Constitution. People forget the Constitution puts

728
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<v Speaker 2>the responsibility to run elections in states. That's why we're

729
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 2>having all these crazy arguments about this county and that

730
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<v Speaker 2>canvasy board. It's because elections are run by the three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand counties in the country. I mean, the Constitution gives

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<v Speaker 2>the power to the states or recognizes the power of

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<v Speaker 2>the states to conduct elections, and almost every state pushes

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<v Speaker 2>the job down to the county. So that's so far.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Supreme Court has been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>grow one party or the other, despite what you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hear in the media where you hear people on the

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<v Speaker 2>left saying the Supreme Court, you know, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket of Donald Trump. But I think there's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a lot of litigation after if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>close election, you know, if Steve's right and it actually

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<v Speaker 2>could be a significant vote for Trump or or even

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<v Speaker 2>or Harris, then you don't you're not gonna have litigation.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's close, if it follows the polling, then

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<v Speaker 2>this new law that was passed two years ago, the

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<v Speaker 2>Electoral count Reform Act, not only just not only guarantee

747
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>invites litigation, almost guarantees it, and eve even creates a

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<v Speaker 2>whole new process for it so it creates a more

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<v Speaker 2>specific Yeah, it creates a new system where if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any legal challenge to the presidential election, it goes to

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<v Speaker 2>a special federal court of three judges, and of the

752
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>three judges meet in the capital of the state where

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00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.519
<v Speaker 2>the irregularities are challenged. So I suppose right, So if

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania say this happen, say exactly what you described happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Trump decided to sue after the election, it

756
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<v Speaker 2>would have to go to a special three federal judge

757
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<v Speaker 2>court that would sit in Harrisburg, because that's the capital Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>Then this is so that never existed before. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this new law creates an ex bedighted process where any

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<v Speaker 2>any challenge to the decisions of this special court has

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<v Speaker 2>to go directly to the Supreme Court on an expedited basis.

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<v Speaker 2>And the law even orders the Supreme Court to decide

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<v Speaker 2>in time for the electoral votes to be counted. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is remarkable. It's never been trying. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>brand new. It's only it was just you know, it's

766
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<v Speaker 2>in the law that was enacted just two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never gone into so that could write. I think

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<v Speaker 2>one thing you saw in the last go round four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, you know, the Trump team filed hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>lawsuits before all kinds of different courts. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the end, but it was chaotic. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a lot less chaotic now. Now there's this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of streamlined process that's designed to take in these

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00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 2>presidential election claims. We'll see, we'll see. We've never seen

775
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 2>this before, it's never been tested before.

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<v Speaker 3>Big question about the three judges. It sounds like special

777
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<v Speaker 3>masters that you hear on the state level and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what it's like. It's like challenges under the

779
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>voting right sack. So there'll be two federal appeals judge

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<v Speaker 2>and one trial judge.

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00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.039
<v Speaker 3>And how are they picked? How are they selected?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say in the law, So I assume it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be to the federal court. So yeah, so the federal.

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<v Speaker 3>In the district right in that place.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I hope, I mean, I assume it would

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<v Speaker 2>be random selection. So Pennsylvania, say this all happens in

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<v Speaker 2>my home state, Pennsylvania. That's what it's called the Third

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<v Speaker 2>Circuits headquartered in Philadelphia, you know, so you'll take you know,

789
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:37.079
<v Speaker 2>includes Delaware and New Jersey. So you would get two

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00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.760
<v Speaker 2>circuit judges from the third Circuit and then probably the

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00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 2>district judge who sits over in harrisbur But you know

792
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>what the harder thing. You know, creates a streamline process.

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<v Speaker 2>But the law doesn't really give you any sense of

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<v Speaker 2>the law. You know that what we call the cause

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<v Speaker 2>of action, Like, what are the principles that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to Right, That's it's very hard to like it could

797
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<v Speaker 2>just be Bush versus War. You could say, voters in

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<v Speaker 2>that county. You know those votes are counted in this county,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't count the same kind of votes. Right. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a challenge under Bush versus Core that should be

801
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<v Speaker 2>able to fly. What if you claim, like Lucretian, does

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<v Speaker 2>you county officials or kicking people out of lines to vote?

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<v Speaker 4>You're confusing the two the two it was a hypothetical. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm saying what you said didn't happen. Didn't happen

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<v Speaker 4>in Lancaster They tried to.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried to, Yeah, but they failed.

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<v Speaker 4>No, No, in Lancaster County. What you what you said

808
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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely right, and that the county officials themselves discovered

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<v Speaker 4>what was wrong. What I talked about was what happened

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<v Speaker 4>in Bucks County, And I didn't say it was county officials.

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<v Speaker 4>I said it was democratic operatives posing as county officials

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<v Speaker 4>who stopped the people from going, staying in the line,

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<v Speaker 4>who said you have to leave, you have to disperse,

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<v Speaker 4>and they they had badges on and so on. And

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<v Speaker 4>it just turned out that these were all democratic operatives

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<v Speaker 4>trying to stop people from going in. And presumably, I,

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<v Speaker 4>of course cannot I have no evidence to back this up,

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<v Speaker 4>this part that they were going in to vote for Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>So two separate things. What you said is absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 4>Even CNN had a long article about it, and of

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<v Speaker 4>course they used it as an opportunity to slam Trump

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<v Speaker 4>because he's called it out what happened in Lancaster County,

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<v Speaker 4>and that the county officials say, we know it's all

824
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<v Speaker 4>screwed up, we know that this happened, but we're fixing it,

825
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<v Speaker 4>so just be patient with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, so, actually this is a different issue. So the

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<v Speaker 2>story I'm looking at actually says it was according to

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump lawyers, it was actually county officials who ordered

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<v Speaker 2>people to leave, And that actually makes more sense because

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<v Speaker 2>then the Trump campaign can sue the government or failing

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<v Speaker 2>to operate. It's like you know, Harris people, you know,

832
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<v Speaker 2>you know Harris people playing dirty tricks. You wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>able to sue the county. You'd have to sue the

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<v Speaker 2>Harris campaign. So actually, I think it really actually was

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<v Speaker 2>a Buck County officials. That's actually who you would want

836
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.519
<v Speaker 2>to sue. That's like that that actually gives rise to

837
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>a violation of the laws. I'm just saying, suppose something

838
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:24.519
<v Speaker 2>that actually did happen, you know, again closer to election,

839
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.639
<v Speaker 2>then Trump would have to sue through this new law.

840
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't. The new law doesn't really tell you

841
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:33.159
<v Speaker 2>whether Trump should win or lose that case. So that's

842
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the like, what the standards are for government for guaranteeing

843
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the election is fair are still just as sort of

844
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.039
<v Speaker 2>ambiguous as they were four years ago.

845
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:51.360
<v Speaker 4>Would you presumably you wouldn't put forward any any legal challenges,

846
00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:56.480
<v Speaker 4>any suits if it was not going to be decisive

847
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.760
<v Speaker 4>in that particular state for the say, the majority voters something, right,

848
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Trump's not going to sue everywhere where there's

849
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 4>allegations of voter fraud or electoral malfeasans or whatever you

850
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.199
<v Speaker 4>want to call it. You would only bother to put

851
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 4>your resources towards those places where the vote was close, correct.

852
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 2>And where it at you no, no, So I think

853
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>that's right because this did happen four years ago. Remember

854
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that again. In Pennsylvania, there's a rule that when you

855
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.679
<v Speaker 2>send a mailed in ballot, you have to put it

856
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.679
<v Speaker 2>in a envelope you know, guarantees as a not anonymity,

857
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 2>and then you have to sign and date it on

858
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the outside. And there were roughly ten thousand votes where

859
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:43.360
<v Speaker 2>the I mean, this is pretty simple, right, like, but

860
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.800
<v Speaker 2>these there are ten thousand votes where people didn't do this.

861
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 2>And so the Supreme it was challenged the Trump campaign

862
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and actually I think really the Republican Party Pennsylvania challenged.

863
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 2>They went to the Supreme Court and Justice Alito, who

864
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.519
<v Speaker 2>hears emergency appeals out of the third Circuit out of

865
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 2>pennsylvani and you said, segregate those ballots. And in the

866
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 2>end Biden won by much more than ten thousand votes,

867
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 2>so they didn't matter. And then that's so the case

868
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 2>was kind of dropped because of that. So I think

869
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 2>you're in there refer it to really matter, it has

870
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 2>to be in a state that's close where right, the

871
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 2>number of votes affected would have or be around the

872
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.480
<v Speaker 2>margin of victory. Otherwise, I think the federal courts are

873
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>going to says say, Now, I will say Justice Thomas.

874
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Justice Thomas wanted, he dissented. He said we should go ahead,

875
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>and do you know he's pressing, And I said, four

876
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 2>years ago, we should go ahead and decide this to

877
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:39.840
<v Speaker 2>make clear what the rule is because it might happen again. Yeah,

878
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 2>and everyone I think the other justice like, ah, now,

879
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:44.599
<v Speaker 2>this is a one time thing. It will never happen again.

880
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:48.679
<v Speaker 4>Well, John, when you say, when you say that it's

881
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:52.000
<v Speaker 4>not really clear what the rule is and what standards

882
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.000
<v Speaker 4>should be brought to bear, brings up an interesting question

883
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 4>that I kind of what I meant to talk about

884
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:01.000
<v Speaker 4>last time in the conversation went a different way and

885
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 4>I didn't bring it back up. But I did talk

886
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.440
<v Speaker 4>about the fact that there seems to be this completely

887
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:11.000
<v Speaker 4>mistaken notion that the most important thing is that you're

888
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.239
<v Speaker 4>you get to vote, that the vote itself is some

889
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 4>sort of you know, awesome religious experience that every citizen

890
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:21.920
<v Speaker 4>is entitled to and if you don't do it, and

891
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.440
<v Speaker 4>so you know, get out the vote drives. We talked

892
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 4>about that, but I actually think there's one deeper thing

893
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 4>happening that's completely lost on us now that our founders

894
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:37.119
<v Speaker 4>did in fact believe in, and that's voting. Who votes

895
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 4>is not nearly as important as the process that will

896
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.159
<v Speaker 4>determine the best, the best, the best person chosen, the

897
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.000
<v Speaker 4>best possible president, the best possible member of Congress. And

898
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 4>so we've lost that notion completely. How could you set

899
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 4>up an electoral system designed to have to bring you

900
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:02.159
<v Speaker 4>very best person, Believe it or not. That was the

901
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:07.639
<v Speaker 4>idea behind the electoral college, more than anything, was the

902
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:11.199
<v Speaker 4>notion that, how do you back in those days with

903
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.840
<v Speaker 4>no mass communication, et cetera, et cetera, how do you

904
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:18.920
<v Speaker 4>have the people participate in choosing a president that they

905
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.840
<v Speaker 4>have no idea about the candidates? You know, and that's

906
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 4>even before parties, so you didn't even have nominees. But

907
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 4>just the general sense that when I debate people say

908
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.039
<v Speaker 4>about popular vote of the president versus the electoral college,

909
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 4>they don't even care if what you end up with

910
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day in a popular vote

911
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 4>system for president is the best candidates. All they care, don't.

912
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Speaker 4>All they care about is that it's more democratic and

913
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.480
<v Speaker 4>more people's vote counts or whatever you want to say.

914
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:54.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm just wondering if you guys think I'm

915
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:56.119
<v Speaker 4>nuts even bringing that up.

916
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think it's the problem is that that

917
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:03.159
<v Speaker 3>train left the station a long time ago and getting

918
00:51:03.199 --> 00:51:04.320
<v Speaker 3>it back is pretty hard.

919
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean your fight is with Andrew Jackson.

920
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a, that's since that's no. I mean I try

921
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 3>to make the I mean, the argument I've been making

922
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.599
<v Speaker 3>for a long time is if you have very high

923
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.400
<v Speaker 3>turnouts in elections, that's actually a bad sign because it

924
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.679
<v Speaker 3>means your your political order is unhealthy, because it means

925
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:27.679
<v Speaker 3>more poor people think they have to vote because too

926
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 3>much is at stake. Now, turnout's been going up, right,

927
00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 3>We have record turnout in twenty twenty, and so you know,

928
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 3>and you know, I like to point out that, Yeah,

929
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:38.880
<v Speaker 3>all right, I mean I hate to bring it up

930
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 3>because of how bad this has been botched lately. But

931
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, turnout in Germany in the early thirties, including

932
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.960
<v Speaker 3>the faithful election of nineteen thirty two thirty three, was

933
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 3>like ninety five percent something like that. That's all that's

934
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.480
<v Speaker 3>been true in other countries. So actually, you know, when

935
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 3>you only have fifty five percent turnout of eligible voters.

936
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 3>That's a sign of health in a democracy.

937
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.519
<v Speaker 2>I agree, sef. I thought that it was a bad

938
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 2>thing that European turnout levels were so high, but that's

939
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.320
<v Speaker 2>because all their economic futures rest on what crandouts are

940
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>going to get by the from the government, whereas in

941
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>the United States, hopefully things are working well. You don't.

942
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't affect most people's lives who's in charge of

943
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 2>the federal government, right They just go on in their

944
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 2>own you know, in their own communities and do their

945
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 2>own business and hopefully the federal garment doesn't reach down

946
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and affect them. But your rights, do you? I think

947
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.679
<v Speaker 2>there's so much at stake now because of all the

948
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:29.360
<v Speaker 2>power the federal governments accumulated. That doesn't really matter for

949
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 2>everybody who's president.

950
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:36.679
<v Speaker 4>I agree to a point, except that in the United States,

951
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:43.400
<v Speaker 4>in relatively modern times, we don't even educate our citizens

952
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.559
<v Speaker 4>well enough in public schools anymore for them to understand

953
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:51.280
<v Speaker 4>what's at stake when they vote. You know, watching some

954
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 4>of those shows that they do the Man on the

955
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Street interviews, the one today that was hilarious was the

956
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 4>guy was asking people at a Harris rally two questions,

957
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 4>what is it that you like about Harris me specific Oh,

958
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.119
<v Speaker 4>she's amazing, she's a woman, you know that kind of thing.

959
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.360
<v Speaker 4>But then do you think Trump is a fascist? Absolutely? Well,

960
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:19.400
<v Speaker 4>what's a fascist? Well, you know, I'm not really sure

961
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 4>I could say, and at least you know, a dozen

962
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 4>people did that. If you if you can't define what

963
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 4>fascism is because your your education is so limited. I mean,

964
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.119
<v Speaker 4>if you graduated from high school, how did you not

965
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:36.440
<v Speaker 4>learn what fascism is? Except that you didn't study in

966
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.119
<v Speaker 4>high school because you didn't study any history we're studying.

967
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:45.239
<v Speaker 4>You instead studied, you know, indigenous people and whatever. Anyway,

968
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:48.880
<v Speaker 4>that I agree with you guys, absolutely, but I don't

969
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 4>know that it's a sign in our country necessarily of health,

970
00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 4>because because these are people who don't even recognize what

971
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.519
<v Speaker 4>the political system means to them and whether if it

972
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.519
<v Speaker 4>changes hands it makes any difference.

973
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.960
<v Speaker 3>We all right, Well, I mean, well it does, except

974
00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 3>that my point is the higher the turnout goes, the

975
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 3>more and more people you will be voting who they

976
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 3>have no clue whatsoever, and what kind of government you're

977
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:14.840
<v Speaker 3>going to get out of that. By the way, what's

978
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.119
<v Speaker 3>one of the things that the Google Left really wants

979
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 3>or the Goo Goo's they want the Australian rule of

980
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 3>mandatory voting because I think that'll and why because I

981
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 3>think they'll get a more left wing result. And they're

982
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:27.559
<v Speaker 3>probably right about that. I'm not certain it is, but

983
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 3>it's probably right.

984
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

985
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 3>And you know my view is is no, I mean, well,

986
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:34.480
<v Speaker 3>it's it will never happen because a basic American freedom

987
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.199
<v Speaker 3>is forget it. I don't you can't make me vote.

988
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I think Americans are rebel against it. But still that's

989
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 3>that idea is.

990
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:43.039
<v Speaker 2>And I look at all the people who try to

991
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.800
<v Speaker 2>get out of jury duty.

992
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.880
<v Speaker 3>Exactly right, yes, right, right.

993
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 2>And one one comment about Lucretia's original question again was

994
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 2>about how, you know, how do you get better candidates.

995
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure it's the federal system so much as

996
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 2>it's the parties and how they won the run the primaries.

997
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's an interesting question. Yeah, you know, when the

998
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:07.360
<v Speaker 2>until nineteen sixty, you know, the pre nineteen sixty system

999
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.760
<v Speaker 2>where it was basically the parties, party bosses or party

1000
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:13.599
<v Speaker 2>leaders were picking the nominees. Whether that was a better

1001
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:19.079
<v Speaker 2>system for quality control than the popular primaries, Yeah, not

1002
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:21.519
<v Speaker 2>sure popular, but I think it's popular primaries that are

1003
00:55:21.519 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 2>a fault. They also allow I know, I'm not gonna say,

1004
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to say this against Trump, but it

1005
00:55:26.920 --> 00:55:29.679
<v Speaker 2>also allows someone like Trump, who's a complete outsider, to

1006
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 2>just kind of right swoop in and conduct a hostile

1007
00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 2>takeover of the party. I don't think Trump would have

1008
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:40.199
<v Speaker 2>could have gotten nominated in the day when a political

1009
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, when the party leaders ran the nomination process.

1010
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know, the party leaders probably wouldn't have

1011
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 3>picked Ronald Reagan either, So it's amaxing think so you're

1012
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:51.920
<v Speaker 3>the experts early. Oh yeah, I don't think that.

1013
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I agree with everything you just said, John,

1014
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:58.840
<v Speaker 4>But the whole thing is given the lie by the

1015
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:03.559
<v Speaker 4>current political situation with Kamala Harris because she was chosen

1016
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:07.960
<v Speaker 4>more or less by party leaders, and you know, she's

1017
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:11.440
<v Speaker 4>a truly terrible candidate. I know that it's really not

1018
00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 4>fair to.

1019
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:15.840
<v Speaker 2>No. No, I actually agree with you. I think Harris

1020
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.920
<v Speaker 2>is the example of the way it used to work.

1021
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, yes or no, I mean I.

1022
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 4>Think they would have chosen someone better.

1023
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh No, I think when, especially if Harris loses, I

1024
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.119
<v Speaker 3>think you're going to hear all kinds of reporting, perhaps

1025
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty soon, but certainly within the next six months that

1026
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Nancy Pelosi and Obama and probably the Clintons and other

1027
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:40.920
<v Speaker 3>grandees did not want her to be the nominee. But Harris, Harris,

1028
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, Biden put his photo the scales right. Oh no,

1029
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm absolutely there's allen rumors of this already. Yeah,

1030
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:49.360
<v Speaker 3>there have been rumors of this already. And and you

1031
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 3>know Harris, he bulldozed everybody very quickly. She did move

1032
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.719
<v Speaker 3>with great dispatch to nail it down, and she had

1033
00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:59.039
<v Speaker 3>Clyburne on her side. And so I think, so Ka.

1034
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Harris, who can't run a national campaign has been such

1035
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 2>a disaster, was actually this great Machiavelian figure behind the

1036
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:12.079
<v Speaker 2>scenes the nomination. The obvious explanation that it was Obama's

1037
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.719
<v Speaker 2>people who were also Biden's people who coronated her.

1038
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.360
<v Speaker 3>No, no, I I think I think we're gonna learn

1039
00:57:18.599 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 3>it's really it's been. It's been pretty reported that Pelosi

1040
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:26.159
<v Speaker 3>was against it. Uh and Obama will see about But

1041
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, Obama and Biden, there's no love loss between

1042
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 3>those two guys. I remember that. You know Obama's famous

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<v Speaker 3>statement proof once again with the garbage comment, Uh is

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<v Speaker 3>don't underestimate Biden's ability to f things up right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>So let me just say one quick I know you

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<v Speaker 4>want me to bring this to a close, Steed, but

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<v Speaker 4>one quick thing. The Hill. The Hill had an article

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00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:53.639
<v Speaker 4>today Democrats start to point fingers. Yeah, and it's it's

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00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.599
<v Speaker 4>all exactly, and it's all the things you guys just

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00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:00.800
<v Speaker 4>talked about and more. But it's all It's interesting because

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00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:07.480
<v Speaker 4>there's no self awareness there, which is it's the reason

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<v Speaker 4>that Kamala Harris is a bad candidate and Waltz is

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<v Speaker 4>an even worse candidate. Actually is not. The reason that

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00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.440
<v Speaker 4>the left things that they're bad candidates is that they

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand how to make progressive awful progressive politics palatable

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<v Speaker 4>like by like Obama did for instance, and even Biden

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00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:33.920
<v Speaker 4>to some extent. So they made the wrong choice because

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00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Kamala Harris is just no good at the kind of

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00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 4>lies that are necessary to cover up the progressive project

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00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:44.239
<v Speaker 4>that she firmly, firmly believes in. And there's no self

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00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 4>awareness of that that. Yeah, you guys get it. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to go on. I'm asking for two predictions

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00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 4>from you guys. The first one is who will win

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00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.880
<v Speaker 4>and the second one is if that person wins, will

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<v Speaker 4>the other side riot?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll go first, Trump's gonna win, and yes, the

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<v Speaker 3>other side is gonna riot and maybe a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with Steve, I think, but I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not with Steve on I think it's gonna be significant.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's to be really really close. I think Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is barely gonna win, and because of that, the left

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna riot. I think that if Trump won, you know, significantly,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be hard for the left to right. If the

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00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 2>American people like definitively said they want Trump back, but

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00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.079
<v Speaker 2>if it's close, they're gonna, you know, they're gonna They're

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who are gonna be pressuring the vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>who happens to be Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 6>Not to count starting electoral votes this time. Kamala might

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<v Speaker 6>hire our friend Johnny Sman to be her lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna say, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Gosh, yeah, you guys. And if Harris wins, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not predicting that she will. I am actually predicting, like Steve,

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<v Speaker 4>that it's not gonna be as close as you think, John,

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, mostly because the the polsters who are smarter,

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01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.679
<v Speaker 4>who have done better in the past, who actually got

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01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 4>both twenty twenty and twenty sixteen right, they're they're predicting

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01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.360
<v Speaker 4>a larger Trump win. But anyway, we don't have to

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01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:16.280
<v Speaker 4>do that right now. I do want to ask you, though,

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01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 4>if Harris were to win, what does the what what

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01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:25.920
<v Speaker 4>does the gun toting, despicable, deplorable.

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01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 3>Bit of garbage people, Yeah.

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01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:28.679
<v Speaker 4>Garbage people, what do they do?

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01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:31.280
<v Speaker 2>They do they do? Like the three of us, they

1095
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:32.199
<v Speaker 2>moved to Texas.

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01:00:35.039 --> 01:00:40.920
<v Speaker 4>Texas is in the not in the win category, in

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<v Speaker 4>the the sure thing category. Texas I think is red

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01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:48.679
<v Speaker 4>on rcp's map, but it's not. It's not a sure thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're going to win it. It's well, here's why

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01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 3>I think will happen. I mean, I think it will

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01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 3>depend on whether there is widespread belief that Harris won

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01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:59.199
<v Speaker 3>by cheating, and if they're you know, if we also

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01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 3>have some really big anomalies like we did last time,

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01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:04.159
<v Speaker 3>all bets are off, I could I could see people

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01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 3>on our team getting really angry and taking to the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really see conservatives or Republicans going out and

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01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:16.039
<v Speaker 2>protesting it. I think that's really you know a black

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01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be like it's gonna be like black lives

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01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:19.320
<v Speaker 2>matter much much worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you remember the don't you remember the Brooks Brothers

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01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:25.280
<v Speaker 3>County in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually recognized several friends friends of that and that

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01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:32.159
<v Speaker 6>pseudo protest.

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<v Speaker 4>That was okay, we could have a trucker thing like

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01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 4>they did. You never know, all right, So on along

1116
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 4>those lines. Nation takes solace in the fact that, no

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01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:48.000
<v Speaker 4>matter who wins the election, the political text messages will stop. Yes,

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01:01:48.199 --> 01:01:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I probably get fifty a day now from both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get any, Steve, I get get a few.

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<v Speaker 3>I get.

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01:01:57.320 --> 01:01:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel so left out.

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01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 4>No, you should feel so happy. Oh it's awful. Wife

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01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.960
<v Speaker 4>breathes sigh of relief after voting for Trump in the

1124
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:12.000
<v Speaker 4>privacy of her voting booth, away from the watchful eye

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01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:17.840
<v Speaker 4>of creepy feminist husband. You gotta like that. You did

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01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 4>see that? That that ad? Right?

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01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:20.199
<v Speaker 5>John? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not seeing any ads.

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<v Speaker 4>This one I haven't. I never seen as an ad.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen it reported on. I guess is the right

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01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:30.079
<v Speaker 4>way to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll leave that one. Democrats scream and fury after spotting

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01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:41.559
<v Speaker 4>child that made it out of the womb alive. Did

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<v Speaker 4>you see that one at all, John, The lady who

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01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:51.079
<v Speaker 4>attacked the baby, the little dollar, Yeah, she was I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know where, outside.

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<v Speaker 4>Outside of a somebody's rally. I don't know if it

1139
01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 4>was it was Harris's or Trump's. But the dad is

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01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:01.480
<v Speaker 4>there and has the little toddler and a stroller in

1141
01:03:01.519 --> 01:03:08.039
<v Speaker 4>this white terre and just starts screaming obscenities at the

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01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.480
<v Speaker 4>little toddler about the toddler's father. It's awful. And the

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01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:16.960
<v Speaker 4>nice thing is is that this another Harris supporter who's

1144
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:19.880
<v Speaker 4>a black woman, is standing next to her. She's like

1145
01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 4>stopping her and saying, this is not good. You can't

1146
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:24.960
<v Speaker 4>do this. And so she becomes the hero of the

1147
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 4>internet and the other one becomes the demon. But anyway, John,

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01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.320
<v Speaker 4>you have got to get in get in touch with

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01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:34.280
<v Speaker 4>the culture.

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01:03:34.519 --> 01:03:35.440
<v Speaker 3>He needs to give out more.

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01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be in touch with the culture.

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01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm an elitist. I want to stay far away from

1153
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:44.519
<v Speaker 2>popular culture. What are you talking about? Okay?

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01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:50.719
<v Speaker 4>Tim Walls asks which button depress in Madden to make

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01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:56.519
<v Speaker 4>players slap each other's butts. Oh that is so bad.

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01:03:58.280 --> 01:03:58.559
<v Speaker 5>I know.

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01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, last one Biden fitted with muzzle so he can't

1158
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:05.199
<v Speaker 4>bite any more babies.

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01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, that's so weird.

1160
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:09.960
<v Speaker 2>That picture so weird.

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01:04:10.519 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's done that kind of thing before, but

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01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:13.920
<v Speaker 4>that one's sort of the worst.

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01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Really, what do you think?

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01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 4>I call him a corrupt pedophile all the time. John,

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01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:23.880
<v Speaker 4>He's always walking up to little kids and biting them

1166
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:26.320
<v Speaker 4>and sniffing their hair and kissing on them.

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01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:30.719
<v Speaker 3>And he might just little cannibal. I don't know anyway.

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01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:33.119
<v Speaker 3>All right, John, send us out. We're way long.

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01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll always drink your whiskey.

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01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:35.639
<v Speaker 4>Meat.

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01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Let's go, Brandon and Steve. What's our sign off today?

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01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I have a new one I'm going to go with

1173
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 3>for a while. I hope you'll get the reference and

1174
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 3>it is. I hope your beeper doesn't go off.

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01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I did.

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01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:59.760
<v Speaker 3>If you don't like who's in there, squatter, Election Day

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01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:01.119
<v Speaker 3>all about the.

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01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:04.480
<v Speaker 4>Biggest gone we've got.

1179
01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:08.840
<v Speaker 2>It's called the ballad books. So if you don't like

1180
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 2>who's in there, vote them out. Oh I'm out, I'm out,

1181
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Vote on out. And when they're gone, we'll sing and

1182
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:24.840
<v Speaker 2>dance and shall bring some new ones in and we'll

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01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 2>start that ricochet.

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<v Speaker 3>Join the conversation.
