WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:01.520 It's Nice Eye. 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:05.480 Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.119 Before we spent last hour talking about reparations for Boston's 4 00:00:10.119 --> 00:00:14.119 black community. Our guest was the Reverend Kevin Peterson, who 5 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:17.839 has been a leader in this effort. And I think 6 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.399 we will continue to talk about that. And again, I 7 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:24.440 know that viewpoints are strong on the issue and that 8 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.160 people disagree, but that's okay. That's what we do here 9 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:28.800 in Nightside, and we can always do it in a 10 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:34.200 way in which is civil, just as last night's debate 11 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:40.600 was was civil between the Republican and Democratic candidates for 12 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:44.640 Vice President, Senator Vance of Ohio and Governor Waltz Walls 13 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:47.359 of Minnesota. And we may get to that a little 14 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:49.960 bit later on tonight too, but in the meantime, let's 15 00:00:49.960 --> 00:00:52.439 get to more phone calls and exactly what we're talking about. 16 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.600 Going to go to stup in Pennsylvania. Stu, you're next 17 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:56.520 Nightside Welcome. 18 00:00:57.399 --> 00:00:58.759 Yeah, see Dan, and. 19 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.039 I guess runs gone. I have a question about the 20 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:06.239 reverend what what church and what faith is he from? 21 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.400 I'm not sure, to be really honest with you, I 22 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:15.959 I could look that up. There's a there's a very vibrant, 23 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:20.239 you know, a black church, Black churches here in Boston, 24 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:25.280 which has been you know, active for for for decades, 25 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:29.480 and so he is of of that those faith groups. 26 00:01:29.480 --> 00:01:32.959 But I'll again, I should know that off the top 27 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.120 of my head. But you go ahead and make whatever 28 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.079 comment while I look that up for you, go right ahead. 29 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.879 Well is this reverend a black man or is he 30 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:41.799 a white man? 31 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.680 No, he's he's he's a black minister. 32 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:50.000 Yes, Okay, Well here's the analogy. I mean, if you 33 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:55.079 took a crayle crayon box, there must be fifty different 34 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:58.879 colors in there. Yeah, and uh, I don't really see 35 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.359 aces a black or white. 36 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.319 By the way, just to answer your question, he's an 37 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:08.919 ordained minister based at the Metropolitan Baptist Church in the 38 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:13.680 Dorchester section of Boston, and he is a graduate of 39 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.159 the School of Theology at Boston University, where doctor Martin 40 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:20.400 Luther King graduated from about fifty years ago, well more 41 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:23.120 than fifty years ago now, back sometime in the nineteen fifties. 42 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:29.840 Okay, what my analogy is is all colors than a 43 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.759 crowd on box. They're not just black or white. And 44 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:35.719 the people they gain their. 45 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.599 You're busting stew You're you're busted up on me here. 46 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:41.639 I'm going to ask Rob to bring your uh, I 47 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.120 don't know, if you're in a bad spot, if you're driving, 48 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:45.639 if you're in a car, and then we'll get back 49 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:47.800 to you. I promise. Let me go to uh. Don't 50 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:49.719 lose to and make and make sure he can call 51 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.919 us back if we do lose him. Okay, Warren in 52 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.879 Fall River, Warren, you were next to a Nightsacer right ahead? 53 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:01.960 Hey, Dan, Yeah, there's a singing that like, if you 54 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:06.639 keep on looking back, you can never know where you're going. 55 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:09.520 Well when when you if you can never go forward, 56 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.479 if you if you keep keep on looking backstand you 57 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.840 know no, and it's you know, yeah, I mean it's 58 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:17.560 you know, to put. 59 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:20.120 Another way or to put another way. It's tough to 60 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.599 drive your car when you're only looking through the rearview. 61 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:27.319 Mirror exactly exactly. Yeah. But yeah, there's no one alive 62 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:32.319 from from that error. And and I don't I mean, 63 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:37.479 why should a person like myself be punished, you know, 64 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:42.159 with my with my tax fair dollar two for something 65 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.520 that I never did that I. 66 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:48.560 Was not I know, I understand that, I understand that question. 67 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:52.080 I think that is fundamentally the best question the reason 68 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:54.439 that I thought it was interesting to have Reverend Peterson 69 00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:57.479 on tonight. Uh And and I just want to make 70 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.240 sure people understand that is I've had him on before. 71 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:04.919 He had an event at the Park Street Church here 72 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:09.759 in the Arlington Street Church excuse me, in Boston, which 73 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:12.319 is a church right on the corner of Arlington and 74 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:15.560 in Newbury Street downtown, right by the way the public garden. 75 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:20.439 And it didn't generate a lot of media interest. There 76 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.800 were no TV stations that I could find that covered it. 77 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.560 I don't think the Boston Globeal, the Boston Herald covered it. 78 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:31.600 Only w b Z Radio covered it. And I just thought, hey, 79 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:35.600 you know, they're making a statement. This involves Protestant, white, 80 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:40.040 white Protestant churches in Boston, some very old churches. And 81 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.680 he told me that the group not only signed this statement, 82 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:46.199 these pastors signed the statement, but in addition to that, 83 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:49.040 they had pledged a total of fifty million dollars. 84 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:53.000 Yeah, if the churches want to pledge that, that's that's. 85 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:53.680 Fine, exactly. 86 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.800 Yeah, he was talking, but he was talking about going 87 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:01.639 into like bonds and you know, tax payers, could you 88 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.639 know it would have to would have to pony up 89 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:06.600 and what would have to be done with that, and 90 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:07.720 I disagree with that. 91 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.560 And I think that if the City of Boston were 92 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.160 and when we get to that point, I want to 93 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:20.439 see the commitment of fifty billion, fifty million dollars. That's 94 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:26.120 a significant amount of money. If if that commitment is fulfilled. 95 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.920 It's one thing to virtue signal and say I'm going 96 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.040 to do this, I'm going to do that. If that 97 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:35.120 commitment is fulfilled, and then how is that money used? 98 00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:38.639 Fifty million dollars sounds like a huge amount. 99 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:42.480 Of money, but it is a huge amount of money, right. 100 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:45.079 But in Boston, in Boston, if you were to divide, 101 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.920 let's say that there are if I hit the guests, 102 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:50.519 just just say that there are one hundred thousand black 103 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:57.319 people in Boston. You're talking about somewhere around maybe five 104 00:05:57.399 --> 00:05:59.800 hundred dollars per percon or something. I mean, I have 105 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.279 to I mean, it's not a huge amount of money 106 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.000 when it breaks down on an individual basis, and it's 107 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.399 just to be interesting. That's the first step. And now 108 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.079 if next five years from now, the City of Boston 109 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:15.879 say we're going to increase everybody's property taxes, you know, 110 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:20.519 to create a fifteen billion dollar endowment of some sort whatever. 111 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:21.879 We talk about that. 112 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:24.519 I mean, we're I mean, we're already doing that with 113 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:27.600 the illegals, you know, you know, I mean we're our 114 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:29.720 tax bills are going to explode in the next two 115 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:36.920 three years because of what more Heally's doing apps And 116 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:43.120 I mean, I mean, yeah, I see society bending over 117 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:49.120 backwards to appease what happened with slavery and all stuff 118 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:53.120 like that, and you know, with affirmative action and all these. 119 00:06:52.959 --> 00:07:01.000 Other affirmative action is a bit of an acknowledgment of 120 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:06.360 past practices. I to be honest with you, I'm more concerned, 121 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:11.240 initially momentarily about the influx of people who are coming 122 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:14.399 into this country who have never contributed to this country 123 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:18.160 in any form of fashion, absolutely, and are coming in here. 124 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.240 We don't even know who they are. You saw those 125 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:24.519 statistics last week, that Holding Insecurity release, which indicated that 126 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:26.480 there were a lot of bad people. We knew there 127 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:31.439 were bad people, but those figures are just astonishing. I'm 128 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:35.160 very much because I think you're talking there about not 129 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:38.439 just billions, hundreds of billions, trillions of. 130 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.319 Dollars, Yeah, it would be trillions, and just one more 131 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.199 point and then I'll let you go. You know, this 132 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:52.360 reparation should have taken place right after the Civil War. Yeah, 133 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.560 like if it was going to happen, that's when it 134 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:58.480 would have should have happened, and you could have held 135 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.360 people were actively doing that part of the part of 136 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:08.160 the problem accountable. But you know, to like, I mean, 137 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:15.160 how long has it been since slavery has been eradicated? Yeah? Yeah, No, 138 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:19.519 one's eighteen sixty three is the sixty three, so that 139 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:22.639 we're going on almost you know, like we're going over 140 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:27.000 one hundred and fifty years. Yeah, absolutely, and so there's 141 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:31.680 no one. Yeah. So again, you know, I feel I 142 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:38.000 feel bad that America had slavery, but you know, you know, 143 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:41.720 we you know, we've we've been society beens over backwards 144 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.960 to try to appease it the best that they can. 145 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.519 Yeah. I think ultimately it comes down to a political issue, 146 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.879 to be really honest with you. Yeah, And if a 147 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.240 city of Boston, through its leadership, said we want to 148 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:00.799 put fifteen billion dollars aside, that that is that's up 149 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.840 to the City of Boston and their and their leadership. 150 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:09.159 I mean, the I think the Boston budget is somewhere 151 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:16.279 around four I think it's about four trillion dollars. The 152 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.039 City of Boston budget, which includes obviously salaries for all 153 00:09:20.120 --> 00:09:23.639 the city employees and expenses. The state budget is about 154 00:09:23.639 --> 00:09:29.519 fifty eight billion dollars. And I hope if I said trillion, 155 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:33.399 I'm meant to say billion. Fifty eight billion dollars. And 156 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:40.240 the the homeless shelter program or the the the immigrant 157 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:44.279 you know, right. The shelter program has cost the city 158 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.559 rather the state a billion dollars last year, will cost 159 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:53.440 another billion dollars this year. So absolutely runs into real 160 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:54.159 money after a while. 161 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.639 Warn oh, yeah, run in the real money. 162 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.600 Billion a billionaire and a billionaire you got, you got some. 163 00:09:59.639 --> 00:10:05.840 Real Yeah, like a person like myself don't doesn't have. 164 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:10.759 I mean, I'm scraping Nichols to get by right now. 165 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.279 I had a lucky day to day. I found a 166 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:14.159 penny on the street. 167 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.039 I walked out of the gym this morning and right 168 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:21.120 on the driveway there was a penny. I picked it up. 169 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.639 I want you to know that I picked pennies up. 170 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.120 Thanks one, Yeah, thanks, okay, thanks again, Dan. 171 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.879 Talk to Thanks great. You'll get Stu coming back on 172 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:33.639 the other side of the break. Just tell Stu make 173 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:36.799 sure he's okay, coming back. I got George, I got Patrick, 174 00:10:36.840 --> 00:10:38.879 I got room for you. But this is the secret 175 00:10:38.960 --> 00:10:45.039 number six one seven reparations for Boston. It's different types. 176 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:49.159 The first that we're talking about is some white Protestant 177 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.840 churches in Boston. It would be very interesting to see 178 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:54.679 if they follow through on this pledge. We'll certainly will 179 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.639 follow that for you. And then Reverend Kevin Peterson, who 180 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:05.279 was with us earlier. He is currently a graduate student 181 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:09.159 at the School of Theology, Boston University and founded the 182 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:13.799 New Democraties Coalition and the Fantal Hall Race and Reconciliation Project, 183 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.840 so he's been very busy on these issues. To answer 184 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.320 Stu's questions, Stu, we're going to come back to and 185 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:21.120 you'll hopefully have a better line. We'll be back on 186 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.080 Nightside right after this. 187 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.320 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 188 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:29.600 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 189 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:31.759 We're going back to Stu. Let's see if we get 190 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.200 that line cleared up. Stu, I hope it's a better line. 191 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:37.840 Go right ahead, Yeah, Dan, Well, as I was saying, 192 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:43.080 I don't think all the money in the world would 193 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:48.440 rectify something that happened through the ages, to all cultures, 194 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:54.399 all colors, and then to judge people on two colors, 195 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.720 black or white. If you look at a crayon boxer 196 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:00.960 must be fifty different colors. And that's the way humanity 197 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:06.440 is now. I'm not saying slavery wasn't wrong, but who 198 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:10.679 sold these people to these slave ship owners that brought 199 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.919 them over here? And by the way, one of the 200 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.399 first slave owners in this country was a black man. 201 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:21.440 I don't think money's gonna rectify this. This kind of 202 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:24.840 reminds me of the church when they say, if you 203 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:29.759 were molested by the church, we're going to give you money. Well, 204 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:34.399 the church isn't actually giving the money. The congregation that 205 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.519 comes into the church is giving the church the money 206 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:42.320 to give to the poor children that were molested. And 207 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.639 that's like a ring in a tree. That ring will 208 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:46.399 be there forever. 209 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:50.039 No, it's absolutely true. And by the way, that whole 210 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:55.639 crisis in Boston was the center, the epicenter in many 211 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:05.039 respects of that horrific abuse that that has incredibly damaged 212 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:11.799 the Catholic Church in Boston. It's just incredible to realize 213 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.440 the damage that that was done, and that not only 214 00:13:14.559 --> 00:13:19.600 was it done by the the aberrant priests. But it 215 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.960 also was there was a cover up, which is even 216 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.799 worse than you know, as they always say, the cover 217 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.840 up is worse than the crime. Well, I can't imagine 218 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:32.639 any crime being worse than molesting kids. But I used 219 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.399 to see that the leaders of the Catholic church in 220 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:39.360 Boston at the time did not say, bring those priests 221 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.639 in here. They moved them around from Paris to Paris. 222 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.120 Bring those priests in here. I want to rip their calls. 223 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.759 The biggest crime it is, and all the money in 224 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:48.960 the world's not going to rectify that. It's a ring 225 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:51.879 and a tree, and that ring will be there forever. 226 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:57.200 People should start getting back to judging people by their soul, 227 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:01.159 not by color. This color stuff is just going to 228 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.000 divide us. So I see it as a tool to 229 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.919 keep the people divided. And this is going to create 230 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.639 more division. And that's what some people in power what 231 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:10.200 they want. 232 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:14.559 To Stu you've called before. I happen to agree with 233 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:20.240 you that part of this is to split us up. 234 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:24.759 And you've heard me say many times that the countries 235 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:27.000 around the world that we need to be worried about, 236 00:14:27.039 --> 00:14:32.320 like the Irans and the Chinas and Russia, They don't 237 00:14:32.360 --> 00:14:36.840 care what your races, they don't care what your background is, 238 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:40.519 your ethnicity, they don't care what your level of education is, 239 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:42.759 they don't care what your gender is, what your sexual 240 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:47.120 preference is. They hate everyone who are Americans. And unless 241 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:51.919 we start to understand that we have not been together 242 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.039 as a country, with a few exceptions when nine to 243 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:58.759 eleven occurred, we were good for about a month, but 244 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.919 then we splintered again. We're a splincht society right now 245 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.159 and we've been that way for decades. 246 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:08.559 And they like it that way. They want the people divided. 247 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.919 And it's the old statement and united we stand. And 248 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:17.639 what are we standing against? Uh? Tyranny? And that's why 249 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:21.080 our founders came here and gave us freedom of speech 250 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:25.720 first and then second, if the tyranny did not stop, 251 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:30.320 we had a way to protect and defend our unalienable 252 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.919 rights which superseded the Pope, the Bishop, the Queen, the 253 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:40.120 king and people in Lord Octon's power. So, uh, you know, 254 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:43.279 I don't see this as being the answer. The answer 255 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:44.799 is not money. 256 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.159 Okay, sir, Stu you got it in and the and 257 00:15:47.240 --> 00:15:51.159 the phone is remarkably good right now, So thank you, sir. 258 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:53.080 You met to have a good night. 259 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:56.200 Then you do, Stu, keep calling the show. Okay, I 260 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.679 like you thoughts, thank you very much. Okay, let me 261 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.159 get one more in here before we got to go 262 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.679 to break Patrick and Charlestown. Patrick, I do not want 263 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:04.159 you to have to wait through the news. You and 264 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:05.200 next one, I said. 265 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:06.480 Hey, I don't. 266 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.080 So, just a couple of issues if if you're limited 267 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:09.559 all the time. 268 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:10.879 Number one was. 269 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:12.879 We got a few we got a few minutes. I'm 270 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.200 not gonna I'm not cutting you off. 271 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:14.240 You. 272 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.039 I just didn't want to have you wait through the news. 273 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:19.320 On the other side, go right ahead. 274 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:22.360 I get you, I get you. So just a couple 275 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:24.080 of points I wanted to make real quick and then 276 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.960 my main point. But number one, standing with all due 277 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:30.559 respect to the Reverend Peterson, and I have much respect 278 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.799 for you, Reverend Peterson, but you know I have questions 279 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.279 about standing. Does this man have the right to speak 280 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.080 for all people of a certain ethic group. I don't 281 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:43.399 think he does. Number two, Uh, the issue of a 282 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:46.320 full and final settlement. Does he somehow have the authority 283 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:50.159 to sign off on this settlement permanently, once and for all, 284 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:54.039 or is this going to be a continuing stream of 285 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:55.960 pursuit of funds. 286 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.360 I wonder, uh. 287 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.519 Second, they said, he said that the church is third, 288 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:04.200 they said, the church is consented. That's the same thing 289 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.319 that they said about consent agreements agreed to by all 290 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:12.440 municipal police and fire departments around the Boston municipal area, 291 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.400 all around the rest of the country. Where you would 292 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:17.359 get the Department of Justice to Suic City, and then 293 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.400 the city would have one well placed person sign a 294 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:24.440 consent decree, and now every single applicant who was of 295 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.559 a certain race would be discriminated against pursuant to the 296 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:30.920 terms of the consent decree as if they had consented 297 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.160 to it. But as a matter of fact, is just one, 298 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:36.920 one well placed person who is who is consented saying 299 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.720 the church is consented. I mean that doesn't say the congregants, 300 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:41.119 does it? 301 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:42.680 Well, I think, well. 302 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:45.200 The only thing that I'm what I'm let me just 303 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:46.960 respond to that, and I'm not going to rush on 304 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.599 time here, don't worry. The point is that if you 305 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:53.640 happen to be a congregant at one of these churches, 306 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.559 and the church decides, the pastor or like anything else, 307 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:01.240 decides we're going to donate three or four million dollars. 308 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.400 It's not going to come out of the pastor's pocket 309 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.319 obviously contribute to it. But he's going to call upon 310 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.799 his congregation, and it then is up to the congregation 311 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:13.960 either to rise to the occasion or to object to 312 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:15.039 the request. 313 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:20.440 And that pastor and elite left wing liberal Yankee circles 314 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.559 is going to be revered. He's going to walk in 315 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.279 any people are going to beam, and he's going to 316 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.640 have red, rosy cheeks and be so proud of what 317 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:32.640 he just did, given away everyone else's money. 318 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:35.359 Well, but again he has to get he has to 319 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.000 get the We're talking about substantial money here. We're talking 320 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:42.519 about fifty million dollars. This is not the church making 321 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:46.759 one thousand dollars contribution, which is nothing more than virtual signaling. 322 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:50.799 This is a pastor really putting his name in reputation 323 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:54.559 and his standing as the head of this congregation. And 324 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:58.440 a lot of those churches, they may have people who 325 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:00.759 are going to say, whoa wait a second there, you know. 326 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.039 So it's it's interesting, it's I think it's a very interesting, 327 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:09.240 small key political question as to how these churches will respond. 328 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:12.079 I mean, maybe everybody in the congregation sits there and 329 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:13.440 say and nods their head. 330 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:16.200 Maybe not if I may. 331 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.599 I just want to say this too. I mean, I 332 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:22.640 don't know. The gentleman's well spoken, he seems like seems 333 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.200 like a very intelligent guy. But I did look up 334 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.880 his background and he's a student at Boston University. He's 335 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:34.480 on the page for the Center for Anti Racist Research, 336 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:38.359 which was headed by Ibram X. Kendy, who was given 337 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:43.039 fifty million dollars in twenty twenty and which has gone undergone. 338 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:46.880 And it's amazing it happens to be fifty There's several sources. 339 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.759 One says forty million, one says fifty fifty million dollars, 340 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:54.000 which apparently they've had a massive problems managing and they 341 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:56.920 had to lay off nineteen people just several years later. 342 00:19:57.119 --> 00:19:57.319 Yeah. 343 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.480 No, I think there's been some questions where where the 344 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.079 money went, what it was used for. It's one of 345 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:06.519 the reasons that I, as a graduate of Boston University 346 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:10.599 Law School, have have not contributed to my law school 347 00:20:10.640 --> 00:20:11.519 in a long time. 348 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:14.400 At least ten fifty million dollars down the drains. Yet, 349 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:16.400 how long is it going to take for Reverend Peterson 350 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:17.599 to blow that down the drain? 351 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:22.960 I'm just say, let's not assume that I mean Reverend Peterson. 352 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:24.559 Assuming it, I'm asking a question. 353 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.960 No. Well, but I think inherently the question, in honesty 354 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.319 is that he will put it down the drain. I 355 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.119 think the question would be, what how will Reverend Peterson 356 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.839 as the head of the group if he does, if 357 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:40.400 these pledges are fulfilled, which I think is an open question, 358 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:43.839 how is that money dispersed by him? 359 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.759 Look at the implication. Look at the implications for church attendees. 360 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:56.400 Vermont's Catholic diocese just went bankrupt settling claims, and that 361 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:59.440 is good, honest people who want to go to church 362 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.640 and worship. Odd they have had their entire diases go 363 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:09.680 into bankruptcy because of lawsuits and grifting and pressuring because money. 364 00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:13.799 Because Jesus bad leadership within the capitol there. 365 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:17.160 Jesus, give us money, Dear Jesus, Please give us money. 366 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:20.000 Dear Jesus, won't you please give us more money? Please 367 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.400 give us fifty million dollars? 368 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:24.480 Dear Jesus. Oh, the tell you, Patrick, I don't know 369 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.960 if you're still a church goer. When I go to 370 00:21:27.279 --> 00:21:32.200 services at Catholic churches, I'm on the wrong side of 371 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.319 fifty and I'm one of the younger members of the 372 00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:37.759 congregation that it's frightening to think that, yeah. 373 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:40.480 Well, you know, that's the destruction of the family. Then 374 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:41.880 that's the destructive family. 375 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.200 A lot of that there. I can remember as a 376 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:49.279 kid going to you know, churches on Sunday or Saturday 377 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:51.920 night with the family, and then on Sunday there'll be 378 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.720 a family dinner. You know that that has changed. But 379 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:59.599 the Catholic Church does have the additional problem of the 380 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:04.319 petiph File priest scandal, and there was no willingness of 381 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:09.240 the church to recognize that they were people in their employment, 382 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:15.960 you know, priests her aberrant, aberrant behavior with children, and 383 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.440 even when it was brought to the attention of Cardinal 384 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.079 law and others in position of authority, they chose to 385 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:25.920 treat this aberrant behavior as whiskey priests and sent them 386 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:28.799 to just move them around from parish to parish. And 387 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:31.799 all it did was it gave the aberrant priests a 388 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:36.960 new flock of young children to abuse. 389 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:39.680 Sadly, and I grew up in this city during that 390 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:40.200 whole time. 391 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:44.240 I'm well, well, no, no, I'm not lecturing you, not 392 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:48.319 lecturing you, Patrick, I'm making sure that people understand that 393 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.920 as someone who grew up Catholic still thinks of himself 394 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:56.319 as a very imperfect, practicing Catholic. I'm appalled by what 395 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:59.480 has has gone on within my church. I recently came 396 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:02.519 back from Rome. By the way, Patrick, I led a 397 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:05.559 group of nightside listeners on a trip to Rome and 398 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:09.759 Mouthfee Coast. We were inside the Vatican. The amount of 399 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:14.559 money that that is inside the Vatican, in terms of 400 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:20.279 the artwork and the buildings, is astronomical, and I don't 401 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:23.680