WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:17.600 Ready twenty seventh day of March twenty twenty six, allegedly 2 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:20.039 according to that thing we call a calendar, and this 3 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:24.199 is the live o'celly effect. Anyway, I know we're competing 4 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:27.239 with other live shows, and some of them are on 5 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.960 video and all that good stuff. So you're probably catching 6 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:33.679 the podcast later on. But if you are hearing us 7 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:37.039 live just after eight pm Eastern, about eight oh five 8 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:41.119 pm Eastern here on the twenty seventh day of March 9 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:44.000 twenty twenty six, we're live, and that means you can 10 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.079 call in at three one nine five two seven five 11 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:50.520 zero one six. And I got to tell you my 12 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:54.439 energy is low. I've had a rough week. We didn't 13 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.600 put out anything really except I did my three hours 14 00:00:57.640 --> 00:00:59.840 on Monday morning, which I'm trying to do is best 15 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:03.240 I can. Was a weird experience. We had a guest 16 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.799 on AM week up. I did have plans for shows 17 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:12.239 this week, but you know what, other things took precedence, 18 00:01:13.079 --> 00:01:16.280 so I had to do a few things. I had 19 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:22.239 an evaluation for traumatic brain injury, etc. So you know what, 20 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:25.159 it was a weird week that along with physical therapy, 21 00:01:25.840 --> 00:01:29.680 along with quite frankly nobody's well that interested in the 22 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:33.799 shows I do, So what am I supposed to do 23 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:39.640 at this point? You know, the people that support this show, 24 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.120 they participate in the Friday night show a little bit, 25 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:48.239 and that's all that's left. Even Larry Hancock doesn't get 26 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:50.200 that much of a response out of you guys, and 27 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.799 we're blessed to have him every other week for whatever 28 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.920 it is he chooses to analyze anyway, it is what 29 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.760 it is, and if I see some kind of support tonight, 30 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.640 I'll put out a Saturday news show this week, for sure. 31 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:10.919 But I don't know what else to do. I got 32 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.439 bills coming up, I got little support. I'm about to 33 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.919 be fifty four years old. I mean, you know, I 34 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:17.800 want to try this for at least one more year, 35 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.680 but I'm not sure if I should give up. And 36 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:22.960 I'm just speaking out loud for the first time about this, 37 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:28.240 but I don't want to do that. Hell, I'd love 38 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.159 to find a format in which I could at least 39 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.759 serve a good and solid purpose, but nobody wants a 40 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:40.719 divergent analysis. You want either Fox News or you want 41 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:43.400 the liberal crap, and you don't want to hear anything else. 42 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.400 And the liberal crap, I mean, I Chase those people 43 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.560 away a long time ago. Despite what Jimmy James thinks. 44 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.360 He thinks I only listened to liberal news. And that's 45 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:54.120 why when I said, are we getting you know, the 46 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:56.520 general we in the world last week? Are we getting it? 47 00:02:56.599 --> 00:02:58.879 I had to stop him from yelling at me all 48 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:02.000 of you listened to is crap news because he doesn't 49 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.719 understand I listened to his garbage along with the other garbage, 50 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:10.360 and then I do independent research and he's typical by 51 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.280 the way of what I got left here. So anyways, 52 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:21.319 between that, my friend b Pete, Mike Swanson, what I 53 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:23.599 can count the other two of you on one hand. 54 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:31.680 Three maybe, But I know everybody's getting squeezed and it sucks, 55 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:36.400 and his whole thing sucks. This whole situation we find 56 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.960 ourselves in and the pain is about to actually set in, 57 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.159 But nobody wants to hear my analysis or tell you 58 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.599 about it, or tell you about the hopeful fact that 59 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:48.960 maybe McDonald's will lower its prices in this coming month. 60 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:52.560 You know, not because I'm a big fan of McDonald's, 61 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:56.560 but because it's an indicator in the economy. It's sort 62 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.319 of like that pizza thing around DC. It's got ramifications 63 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.000 outside of itself. But again, you don't want this sort 64 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:06.960 of content, So anyway, open lines three one nine five 65 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:11.159 two seven five zero one six. I'm not even gonna 66 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:18.079 argue anymore. Whatever nonsense, stupid thing or ill informed whatever, 67 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:20.720 Just come on say it, do it. I'd love to 68 00:04:20.759 --> 00:04:22.720 hear from some different people. I know a couple other 69 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:24.680 people listen to the show, but I don't know if 70 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.639 anybody's catching us live. I really don't anymore outside of 71 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.959 what Jimmy Danny one guy in Florida, you know, did 72 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:36.639 all my good callers die? Is that? Is that where 73 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:41.040 we're at now? Anyway, that's how I feel this week. 74 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:42.920 I don't know how you guys feel, but you can 75 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.720 call in three one nine five two seven five zero 76 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:47.639 one six if you even want to bother or you're 77 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.680 listening on a Friday night. Three one nine five two 78 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:53.519 seven five zero one six. This is the way to 79 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.920 ocelli iff that goes when I'm in a really great mood. 80 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.920 Plus you know I get evaluated nicely. That always helps. 81 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.480 But three one nine five two seven five zero one six, 82 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.759 and there you go. Be Pete, how's your week been? 83 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:11.759 I know we talked about pollen right before going live. 84 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.360 And I know that sucks because I talked to my 85 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.399 daughter and she told me how the pollen was killing her. 86 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:21.000 And she doesn't live too far from you. But you know, 87 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:23.519 what else is up besides pollen? Or by the way, 88 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:25.720 tell us about the pollen. Whatever you want, be pete, 89 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:29.120 it's you know, please speak up, say something, do something. 90 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.399 Well. I you know, everybody deals with it when it 91 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:36.399 comes springtime. But for some reason down here in the South, 92 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.439 it seems like every growing thing puts out five times 93 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.839 each day during the month of March and April. But 94 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.720 first of the week, I was helping somebody clear out 95 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.000 an area behind their garage that had grown up for 96 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.480 about ten twelve years. And it was small trees in 97 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:57.639 that and I went to cut a tree, probably I 98 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:01.439 don't know, twenty five foot high inches around in the trunk. 99 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.639 I cut the tree and as it dropped, the outline 100 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:12.519 of the tree in yellow stayed in one place, and 101 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.720 the tree dropped, and then the wind caught it and 102 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.360 blew it all back towards me. It was this year. 103 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.600 I don't know if it was because of the lack 104 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.560 of rain in the winter. I don't know what's causing 105 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:27.600 the pollen outbreak as bad as it is, but it 106 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.079 is really terrible, and thank god we're supposed to get 107 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.920 rained tonight starting about eleven o'clock until tomorrow morning and 108 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:38.360 washed this crap away because it's been hell. I took 109 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.319 a mode yesterday. Had a bunch of leaves in the 110 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.759 backyard that I didn't get up the fell over the wintertime, 111 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:46.839 so I went ahead and mounched them with a mower, 112 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:49.560 and when I got done, I spent fifteen minutes with 113 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:52.439 an air compressor trying to blow the pollen off of me. 114 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:58.439 It's really bad this year, more so than ever. So 115 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:03.279 I'm in hacking and stuffed up and sneezing, and I 116 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:06.199 hit a sneezing spell yesterday for about ten minutes straight. 117 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:09.600 And then once we start getting some regular rain and 118 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:13.120 April comes in, this stuff all goes away. So you know, 119 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.680 it's just two months of living hell we got to 120 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:17.240 put up with here in the South. I know it's everywhere, 121 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:18.920 but it just seems like here in the South we 122 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:22.480 have much a more concentrated amount of it every year. 123 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:25.839 But other than that, it's been a very successful week 124 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:28.439 and I'm trying to figure out how I can go 125 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.199 online at one o'clock in the afternoon today and order 126 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.720 a mower belt for a guy that wants me to 127 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.759 get his mower back in condition to run and have 128 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:42.920 it here tomorrow morning by nine o'clock. But if I 129 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.759 mail a letter, it may take two weeks to get 130 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:49.079 to wherever the hell it's going. It's just amazing. I 131 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:53.399 don't know where this Amazon delivery facility is, but they 132 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:55.920 just gave me a notice thirty minutes ago that my 133 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.040 product's already shipped and it's supposed to be here by 134 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:03.600 nine am. Okay, get a letter. If I'd live six 135 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.879 blocks from downtown, if I send a letter or my 136 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:10.759 water bill payment in that's six blocks, it takes almost 137 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:12.279 a week and a half two weeks to get there. 138 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:13.439 It's amazing. 139 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.160 Well, see, this is why the Post Office is crying 140 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.759 and wants to raise prices, and they want to put 141 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.439 a temporary eight percent raise on everything right now. 142 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.879 But people they're talking about going up to almost what 143 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:28.480 a ninety five cent for a first class stamp. 144 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:31.399 Yeah, right, But this is the problem that people don't 145 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.240 don't want to get right, and especially since the guy 146 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.960 was brought in under Trump and stayed all the way 147 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:40.120 through Biden. I think he might even still be there. 148 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:43.679 He might not. I don't know. The Postmaster General who 149 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:45.600 really was there to try and set things up to 150 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:50.440 be privatized. He amplified the problem with Amazon. See Amazon 151 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:55.759 uses the USPS IS, you know, better systems in order 152 00:08:55.840 --> 00:09:00.200 to make things travel. Then Amazon augments it with gigwork. 153 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:05.759 So they pay like Amazon drivers to make some deliveries 154 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:08.919 for a day or whatever. Okay, and you got to 155 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:10.879 scan them in, scan them out. That's how you get paid. 156 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:18.720 But they're picking them up from postal facilities. So this 157 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:24.080 is the problem. You got speed because Amazon adds on 158 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.159 just a little bit to this good deal they have 159 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.879 with the post Office. They're paying a better rate because 160 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:32.200 of the massive volume. Like basically, if it wasn't for 161 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:34.399 Amazon right now, the post Office would be out of 162 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.399 business because a whole lot of what they're doing is 163 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:41.080 sending packages around. Now when it comes to mail people, 164 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.440 there's all kinds of crazy happening, and like we have 165 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:49.720 stuff that they market delivered and it's not delivered. We 166 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:52.679 have stuff that has disappeared, We got stuff being ripped open. 167 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.240 And it's not just a local problem, you know, because 168 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.360 I go and I find out around the country from 169 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:01.759 people that I know that you know, actually have things 170 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.840 coming in and out of their houses because most people 171 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:06.799 don't even bother with the regular mail anymore. They're they're 172 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.200 doing most business and most other things that are important 173 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:13.240 without mail, right unless they get a birthday card. And 174 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:16.720 who the euse ends a birthday card anymore, you know 175 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.480 what I'm saying. So it's not a priority. Your your 176 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:23.320 letter is not a priority. Your stamp's not a priority. 177 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.440 Amazon is, and a whole lot of other companies are 178 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:30.240 doing the same thing. These drop shippers, you know, they 179 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:34.799 basically have warehouses that are positioned and then they use 180 00:10:34.879 --> 00:10:38.960 the most expedient method that the Post Office has so 181 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:42.279 guaranteed there's a couple of you know, Amazon warehouses that 182 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.759 are stocked with stuff and have robots and a few 183 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:47.399 people in there that have to move around and you know, 184 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:50.240 get things out quickly and this and that and packaging fast. 185 00:10:50.679 --> 00:10:52.679 And that's why they were peeing in bottles because their 186 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:55.799 bathroom brakes could get them fired and all that. So 187 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:59.159 there's probably a couple of those around North Carolina. They 188 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:03.320 shove it into the ups through the priority system, which 189 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:06.639 could have up to two delivery setups every single day 190 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.639 going from place to place as opposed to the one 191 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.480 that your leto traveled through. And then if that's not 192 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.440 quick enough, if it's going to take till the next 193 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:18.399 day for the post office to grab at, Amazon will 194 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.440 dispatch gig workers. Hey, you want to go earn ten bucks, 195 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.399 here you go. You want to go earn five bucks, 196 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.240 here you go. And they package them together so that 197 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.720 you know, just your package isn't what they got paid for. 198 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:32.399 They got a you know, a boatload of packages in 199 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.240 the back of their suv, their van, their car, whatever. 200 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:38.279 They got twenty thirty packages that they pick up in 201 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:42.759 one shot that goes to one neighborhood and it's done. 202 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:47.799 So they've used the infrastructure. You know, they've used the 203 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:54.399 infrastructure and then simultaneously, you know, augmented it. And that's 204 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.360 what a whole lot of these things have done. Right. 205 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:59.360 You know, if you if you buych some them through eBay, 206 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.840 you're going through the regular post office. Yeah go ahead. 207 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.200 Yeah, Well, I was gonna say, your guy, because we 208 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:10.320 I remember I was discussing to Joy back when Trump 209 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:14.519 was in his first term. He left in March of 210 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:17.240 last year, and we had an interim for a few months, 211 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:20.559 and the new one is David Steiner. He's been there 212 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.559 since July fourteenth of last year, so we do have 213 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:24.840 a new Postmaster General. 214 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.679 Okay, that is a whole lot of long term damage 215 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:31.000 from the joy though, because that guy. 216 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:34.519 Well, part of the damage that was done was the 217 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:40.080 post Office branching into other stuff, you know, twenty years 218 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:43.200 ago when they started selling you know, they've always sold 219 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.919 stamps to collectors, and a few people that I've known 220 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:49.240 over the years have been stamp collectors and are really 221 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:53.320 into it. But the Post Office really started getting into marketing, 222 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:58.720 selling coffee cups and collector stamps and collector envelopes and 223 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:02.759 collector stationary all this, I mean, rain gear and umbrellas, 224 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:07.080 and it's like, dude, you're here to deliver the mail, 225 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:11.879 not turn it into a commercial target store, which started 226 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.240 some of their problems. They've had problems with the postal 227 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:19.000 unions trying to keep up with the you know, increase 228 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:23.559 in pay and costs, and then trying to you know, 229 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.960 being fraught at every turn for trying to automize, to 230 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:29.360 automatize a lot of stuff. It's just it's been a 231 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:34.519 downward spiral. You know, when ups and FedEx started, they 232 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:37.720 didn't really see it as competition. But when they found 233 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.960 out that they could do it more economical and faster 234 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:44.519 than that really started putting the Post Office in a hurt, 235 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:47.720 you know. And then and then we have you look 236 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:50.840 at the years that they were sponsoring Lance Armstrong while 237 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:53.759 he was cheating at the bicycle race for seven you 238 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:59.159 know championships. It's just crazy our government, I don't know. 239 00:13:59.519 --> 00:14:03.159 The Post Office to me is emblematic of what's wrong 240 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.720 with our government. They've gotten too big, they've gotten too slow, 241 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:10.080 they've gotten too expensive to do what it is that 242 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.720 they're mandated to do. And it's been an ongoing problem. 243 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:14.120 I know there were a lot of problems when Trump 244 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:17.120 put his guy in there, but he's just another one 245 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.159 that's had nothing but a bunch of problems. 246 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.320 But if you're going to aim to privatize and see 247 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.320 that's the thing, I think it's a big distraction. The 248 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:28.039 merchandising thing, I think that's barely even relevant because it 249 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:31.200 wasn't all that costly the crap they pulled, you know, 250 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:36.000 because they already had printing, they already manufactured stuff. It's 251 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.639 sort of like, you know, the vehicles. Oh, the vehicles 252 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:41.440 are a waste. They're not. They're the most efficient thing possible. 253 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.399 The people are sometimes a wasteoid I see that. You know, 254 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.080 even the postmaster doesn't seem to be so bright half 255 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:53.159 the time. But I mean it's it's a mess because 256 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:58.679 of this problem not keeping up with things. They they 257 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:02.399 and here's the they participated in their own destruction. Like 258 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:07.240 I told you you got Amazon utilizing their infrastructure. Well 259 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.799 guess who else has utilized their infrastructure a little bit? 260 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.960 UPS doesn't deliver everywhere. See, this is the drawback to 261 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:19.759 your UPS, your FedEx, right, and yeah, sure there is 262 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.919 a place for both the private and the public enterprise here. 263 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.919 But what's happened is it's not about efficiency. I mean, police, 264 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:32.120 they can upgrade and make anything efficient they want, regardless 265 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:34.960 of you know, people resisting because it's going to cost jobs. 266 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.720 That's not a big deal. I don't know why that's 267 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.559 not getting done because every time I look at those arguments, 268 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.320 there are convoluted political footballs there that don't really speak 269 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:49.360 to the reality of the situation. You know, the infrastructure 270 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:52.799 that is existent, even if it is the forty year 271 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:55.679 old or fifty year old infrastructure and hasn't been updated, 272 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:01.440 should still outpace your UPS facilities. UPS has had to 273 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.120 make cuts and drawbacks and everything else. Every time an 274 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:10.080 economic wave changes. UPS must adjust. The Post Office doesn't 275 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:13.320 have to. And at certain points they should have been 276 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:15.480 able to make a surplus and at other points not. 277 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.320 And then here's the thing. They don't need to make 278 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:23.919 a profit. There's the issue. You got to keep them flush, 279 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:28.159 not you know, profit making. And the joy is a 280 00:16:28.279 --> 00:16:31.879 private you know, is a private mailing guy. And so 281 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.039 you mean to tell me the private mailing guy couldn't 282 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.320 do it. The government employees can't do it. Everybody they 283 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.679 put in there can't do it. So it is obviously 284 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:46.320 a bureaucratic issue. It's obviously an inability to move along 285 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:49.559 with the times. You know, they have all the scanners 286 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:51.399 now and everything else. But as I was trying to 287 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:54.519 explain with them, you know, scanning things and claiming they 288 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:58.120 delivered things and everything else, you obviously got people beating 289 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.240 the system. You know, they're punching out and saying they 290 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:03.840 did their work when they didn't do it. And they're 291 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:06.519 getting away with it because guess what, there's some cheap 292 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:09.119 tracking stuff that could be used in order to track 293 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.000 the trucks and the mail and everything else that they're 294 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:17.039 not using, you know. So there these are idiotic upgrades 295 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.960 not being made well, and idiotic upgrades being got too well. 296 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.480 Another thing that you got too is this contract delivery 297 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:31.519 for postman. It's been it's probably been twenty years since 298 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:34.720 I lived somewhere that had an actual mailman that worked 299 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:37.799 for the Post Office to deliver the mail. Since then, 300 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.400 it's been these contract deliverers that are driving around in 301 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:43.160 private vehicles because I've been living, you know, out in 302 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:47.160 the counties, in rural areas, and you don't have regular 303 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:50.240 mailmen out there anymore. They're all contract delivery guys. They're 304 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.119 driving their own cars and getting paid so much a 305 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:55.880 mile to getting paid so much an hour. And they're 306 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:01.000 closing facilities. I know where when you were here in Kinston, 307 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:06.319 Kenson used to be a major mail facility, but then 308 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.359 they shifted to Greenville and to newbern and pulled it away. 309 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:13.240 They closed post offices in pink Hill, they closed post 310 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:17.200 offices in Albertson, they closed post offices and seven Springs. 311 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.559 Everything got sent to Lagrange. You know, they tried, they 312 00:18:21.599 --> 00:18:25.799 tried redesigning the system, and getting rid of some waste, 313 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.200 and it just slowed the process down and slowed it 314 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.240 down to where now you know that We just had 315 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:36.279 a Supreme Court hearing about mail in ballots and a 316 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:39.640 couple of the justices were arguing, well, why are we 317 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:43.759 allowing so much time after election day? We have certain 318 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:47.920 things in government where they say election day, this day, 319 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.359 that day, it being that day. Some states allow damn 320 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:56.240 near twenty one days to a month after election day 321 00:18:56.319 --> 00:18:59.039 to receive mail in ballots and with a slow as 322 00:18:59.079 --> 00:19:04.759 the mail services gotten, you know, Florida, three hours after 323 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:06.519 election is done, they can tell you who won. 324 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:08.680 See but but there you have it? 325 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:08.400 What is it? 326 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:09.519 But there you have it? 327 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:10.759 It takes what three weeks? 328 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.200 When you know how many mail in ballots are supposed 329 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.119 to show up, you can make a prediction, right, I mean, 330 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:18.079 you know, if there's not enough mail in ballots to 331 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.799 close the gap, then there isn't. But the fact is, 332 00:19:20.880 --> 00:19:23.640 like you just said, because of the post Office, you 333 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:26.960 have to allow extra time because there is slippage in this. 334 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.640 I've bet people mail me things and they show up 335 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:34.039 way later than they ever imagined, you know, And I've 336 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:37.279 mailed stuff to them. I've had things disappear trying to 337 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:39.559 mail them to Jimmy James. That's a whole other weird thing, 338 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:41.799 you know what I'm saying. 339 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:45.359 I have no Yeah, I've had places. Yeah tell me. Look, 340 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:47.319 if you're going to send this by mail, you need 341 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:49.440 to do it two and a half weeks before it's due, 342 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.720 just to ensure that he gets here before the due date. Yeah, 343 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:55.480 you know things like that. Yeah, it's crazy. 344 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.079 So if you try and apply that to voting, I 345 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:02.960 mean that's some because you're making people vote way in 346 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.599 advance and others. Okay, I was just gonna get to 347 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.920 Danny in California, but he was on the line. But 348 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.960 this is some bs because people are disappearing, you know, 349 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:18.799 just not participating with mail and stuff because it's like 350 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:25.880 can I avoid the mail? You know. So I don't 351 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:29.720 know if there needs to be a proper public and 352 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:34.519 private partnership here, because the rural thing you're describing sounds 353 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:38.759 logical to me, you know, like they're doing the right thing, 354 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:41.400 but they're probably not doing it the right way with 355 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:44.160 those private contractors because in a rural area where you 356 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:47.440 have a reduced population, yeah, it kind of makes sense 357 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.319 to hire an independent driver and not have a full 358 00:20:50.359 --> 00:20:54.559 fledged facility, but you could have sort of a way station, 359 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.720 you know what I mean where you know, it's a 360 00:20:57.759 --> 00:21:00.839 small building, it's a shack whatever. It takes care of 361 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:04.160 a county, you know what I mean. And it's not, 362 00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:06.559 you know, not much bigger than one of the I mean, please, 363 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:09.160 there's plenty of these strip mall areas that are available 364 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:12.759 that nobody's using for commerce. I'm sure there could be 365 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:17.680 an arrangement made, you know, or listen, we used to 366 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:22.319 build a whole gas station convenience stores, real cheap, prefabricated. 367 00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:25.519 Somebody wanted to design that that would be worth an 368 00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:30.440 investment to create, like a universal kind of mail hub 369 00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:34.519 that could be mostly automated. Problem you've got, yeah, go ahead. 370 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:37.319 Another problem you've got. That's like some of the like 371 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.359 Amazon ups places like that. Like if you have a 372 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:44.319 post office box here where I live, if you have 373 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:47.960 a post office box, those some of those companies will 374 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.839 not deliver to your physical address right because you've got 375 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:57.039 a post office box, correct. But here, something can come 376 00:21:57.079 --> 00:22:00.440 into our post office from one of those company. He 377 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.680 gets sent from there thirty miles away to a processing center, 378 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.720 even though it was in this town in these city limits. 379 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:09.920 He gets sent thirty miles away as soon as he 380 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:13.400 gets there to be reprocessed to be sent out to 381 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.519 be delivered. So you put in another day to two 382 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.039 days in there on top of that where something gets 383 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.880 shuffled around and then eventually it winds right back up 384 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:24.480 where it was two days ago. But it couldn't be 385 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:28.839 delivered from the local office. It had to be delivered 386 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:32.160 from the distribution office, which is thirty miles down the road. 387 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:35.720 It's just it's confusing the way the mail system works 388 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.880 in some areas. I just don't understand it well. 389 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:41.920 Because again it's got to be based on population, and 390 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:46.039 you have to be flexible so that when the population shoot. 391 00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:50.759 Because those contract drivers, those contract drivers pick up their 392 00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:54.599 stuff from the distribution center thirty miles down the road, 393 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:56.359 not from the local. 394 00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:58.680 Post office, we'll be seen. 395 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:00.559 So that's why they have to once it HiT's here, 396 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:02.480 it gets sent to Greenville. They have to go to 397 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.440 Greenville to get what gets delivered here instead of it 398 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.599 coming out of the local office six walks away. 399 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.599 See. But that's why I mentioned public and private partnership, 400 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:15.200 because all you got to do is create like a 401 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.440 closet space in any one of those local post offices, 402 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:23.799 right and simply rent it to UPS. It doesn't have 403 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:27.920 to be massive. But UPS has like a drop off module, 404 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:29.519 you know what I'm saying. It's sort of like a 405 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:31.880 almost like a video store when you add a night drop, 406 00:23:32.039 --> 00:23:34.920 you know, and you could set it up so that 407 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:39.519 Amazon can basically drop stuff off, right, I mean through 408 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:42.640 a lock box, let's just say, or something like that 409 00:23:42.680 --> 00:23:45.440 where they got to have a key card, right, and 410 00:23:45.480 --> 00:23:48.160 they open it up and boom, they just you know, unload, 411 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:50.880 or they have an automated palid jack that comes and 412 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.400 grabs a palid worth of stuff and throws it in there. 413 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.000 Now you have a UPS one, you have a Federal 414 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.200 Express one, and these are only a little tiny like 415 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:02.880 storage at the post office. The post office doesn't even 416 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:05.279 have to be involved. They can just charge a little 417 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.880 bit of rent, right, and then your local guys that 418 00:24:08.920 --> 00:24:12.960 go to pick stuff up, I mean, please, with smartphone technology, 419 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.279 they're using a smartphone to get there to get their 420 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.279 gig probably, so they use the same smartphone to scan 421 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:21.599 a QR code. Boom. I can open it up today, 422 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.440 and here's what I'm supposed to take. You know what, 423 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.839 I mean, I don't think it's that difficult to automate 424 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:29.920 that and set it up and have it so that 425 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:33.480 you have a central mailing hub that covers the public 426 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:37.039 and the private, and like I said, just charge you 427 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.559 PS and Federal Express some rent. I mean, if you 428 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:46.079 rent you know, fifty thousand closets across the country, it'll 429 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:50.920 add up. There's a revenue stream right there. I mean, 430 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.559 I'm just saying this is a revenue stream without involving 431 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:57.880 new people. And these private companies can install their damn technology, 432 00:24:58.759 --> 00:25:01.759 so you know, they can even do the renovations. Maybe, 433 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:05.920 I mean, or maybe there is something that already exists 434 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:07.559 in a post office, because it looks to me like 435 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.119 there's wasted space at a lot of post offices. Have you 436 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:12.000 noticed that, like physically. 437 00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.279 Well, yeah, a lot of them. It depends on how 438 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.599 many boxes they actually have rented out compared to how 439 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.519 many they have. A lot of those boxes are sitting 440 00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:23.480 there drawing cob webs, you know, or town I live in, 441 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.279 eight hundred people, you know, I doubt that half of 442 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:31.279 those post office boxes are rented. I mean, it's convenient 443 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:32.839 for some people to have their stuff go to a 444 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:34.759 post office box. No well, you don't have to worry 445 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.359 about checks getting stolen as much as somebody just pulling 446 00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:39.680 one out of your mailbox when you're not home and 447 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.400 things like that. But you know, our town of eight 448 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:44.519 hundred people, I would think our post office could be 449 00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.799 more phisient than it is. It's not that huge. It's 450 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.480 the demand is not there, you know, to make it 451 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:55.880 a problem. But you know Amazon. I used to talk 452 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.839 bad about Amazon, especially when they got in the NFL 453 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:02.519 or on Thursdays pulled off a broadcast TV that really 454 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.640 kissed me off. So I bought my membership. But I'm 455 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:06.400 gonna be honest with you for what it takes me 456 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:10.079 to travel thirty miles down the road to go to Walmart, 457 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.039 or to go to Low's, or to go somewhere. I'll 458 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.759 give you an example. I needed chainsaw replacement chain for 459 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.319 a chainsaw. I got a Loa's where I bought the 460 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.000 chainsaw replacement is twenty five dollars. I go on Amazon, 461 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.920 I could get two for fifteen bucks. Oregon Chains the 462 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.079 number one chain manufacturer in the US, to an excellent 463 00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.640 piece of equipment, and I had them the next day. 464 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:38.000 The very next day, by ten o'clock in the morning. 465 00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:41.960 You know, it's just amazing what Amazon can do. So me, 466 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.839 I do my shopping online Now. It costs one hundred 467 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.119 and thirty bucks for a membership, but I haven't paid 468 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:51.359 shipping in any order I've made in the past eight months. 469 00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.079 And I get to watch Thursday night football through my 470 00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:57.039 membership because it's on Amazon Prime. 471 00:26:57.240 --> 00:26:59.279 Let me cue you into something, though, you could probably 472 00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:03.559 get that that membership cheaper that Prime membership. 473 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.200 Yeah, I know now that I'm now that I'm old, 474 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:08.759 well can get a discount. Now. 475 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:10.200 I wasn't gonna say I got it. 476 00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.960 I wasn't. I wasn't of the magic age. But now 477 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:15.279 that I am, damn straight, I'm going to hit next 478 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.200 year when it comes for new ale time, it's going 479 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:17.759 to be less. 480 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:20.200 Yeah, but you may have more than one reason to 481 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.599 get it cheaper, like you get package deals where your 482 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.640 Amazon Prime comes down to like I've heard of people 483 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.759 paying six dollars a month for it, you know what 484 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.240 I mean, if you have a couple of different like 485 00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:35.519 discounts on it. So because they don't care it's by volume, 486 00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:37.200 you know what I mean, They're happy to take you 487 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.119 with your you know, one hundred and thirty dollars or 488 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.200 whatever a month. But they're also happy to take people 489 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:43.119 in six dollars a month because it all adds up 490 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:45.079 and all the business comes up. 491 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:47.599 They're going up till one hundred and seventy now whatever 492 00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:51.480 it is, every well, everything, everything is up. 493 00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.359 I mean, look, and I can't even figure out how 494 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.480 to watch the Mets. By the way, I know they 495 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.720 were on broadcast TV for Opening Day, but I couldn't 496 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.880 get NBC. I don't know why, uh, but but anyway, 497 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.000 I couldn't watch them. So I had to watch the 498 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.599 highlights as they were released on YouTube, trying to follow 499 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.960 the Mets. But I'm gonna just. 500 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.440 A little trick. You need to check YouTube today of 501 00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:20.039 the games because a lot of guys will shadow broadcasts 502 00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.079 on their YouTube channel. That's how I watch a lot 503 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:27.160 of these college games that aren't on brought that are 504 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:29.960 on ESPN or something. I mean, they've got a lockdown 505 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:36.319 a lot of stuff. Now go to you, somebody is 506 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.240 more Mets games, then you think you'd be able to well. 507 00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:42.400 You know what the problem is, though, I went I 508 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:46.920 did that with the World Baseball Classic, right and uh, 509 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.799 and I was watching a couple of those games were 510 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.319 great uh, and and I watched part of them, and 511 00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:56.519 then Major League Baseball shut it down a couple of times. 512 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:01.039 So you know, people had ye, they'll catch a mid 513 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.519 stream and you got to go find another channel. 514 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:05.880 Yeah, but I went to go find other channels and 515 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.240 it was like they got them all off. But YouTube, Blake, 516 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.000 I was pissed. You know, I'm like, damn it. I 517 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:12.359 was getting into this and now. 518 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:17.920 The NC Double A does that. The football games, you 519 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:20.119 might be halfway through the second quarter, you got to 520 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.359 go find another channel because somebody just got bopped. 521 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:24.160 Yeah, well I tried. 522 00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:27.720 Tonight we're watching uh. Tonight, we're watching Duke taking on 523 00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.720 Saint John's in the NC Double A basketball tournament. It's 524 00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:32.920 been a good game so far. 525 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.839 Well, look, if anybody finds you know, God helped me. 526 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.680 I doubt anybody listening to me is gonna care or 527 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.480 help me out or even be remotely interested. But if 528 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.160 you happen to encounter a Mets stream, go ahead and 529 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.279 send me a message on X And if I'm not 530 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.039 live doing something, believe me, I will go find the 531 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.839 bootleg stream uh and go watch it with you, because 532 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.920 I do want to see some games. But for the 533 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:04.359 home openers. Sadly, I had to watch the highlights as 534 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.279 they were coming out, so it was kind of It 535 00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:11.079 was kind of good though, because first inning provided us 536 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.160 with some highlights right away, and they were out like 537 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:20.240 maybe a twenty minutes half hour later. I'm thinking, yikes. Anyways, 538 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:23.640 and they knocked Skeens out in the first inning. I 539 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.480 was happy with that because you know, cy young guy, 540 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.720 he's going to come in blow the Mets away, and yeah, 541 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:30.839 that didn't work out so good. They knocked him out 542 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.200 two thirds of an inning. He got through and he 543 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:33.720 had to have. 544 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:36.599 That problem with hockey. Trying to watch a hockey game, 545 00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.599 Carolina game or Hurricanes trying to get them. You can 546 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.000 join their membership streaming for the NHL, you know, every 547 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:50.039 it's it's you know, the NFL came out with NFL 548 00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:54.119 Prime a while back, or what they call NFL Game Day, 549 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.119 which is their subscription service, and a lot of the 550 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.960 NCAA colleges have gone to ESPN. Some of them have 551 00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:06.680 contracts with CBS Hockey. You pretty much have to if 552 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.680 you want to watch your team play, you're gonna have 553 00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.039 to get a streaming service through the NHL to watch 554 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.960 your team. A sucks. Everybody wants to stream their stuff 555 00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.400 in charge a fortune for it. At one time I 556 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.799 figured out for me to watch football, it was it's 557 00:31:22.799 --> 00:31:26.680 gonna cost me three hundred dollars a season, right, which 558 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.559 is more than what my you know, than getting ESPN 559 00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.319 on cable. So I could have broke down and got cable. 560 00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.680 I said, now, hell, and I'll stick with my broadcast TV. 561 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.200 I get about thirty channels just off of antenna. 562 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.000 Yeah, I got it. I still gotta go get an antenna, 563 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.079 but I but either way, I can't afford the MLB thing. 564 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.279 And you know, I thought I was gonna be all 565 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.359 right because maybe I could listen on radio, but now 566 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.599 they block out all the games, so I can't even 567 00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:58.759 go to like the free radio station or you know, 568 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.160 it's so messed up. I can't. I can't watch this stuff. 569 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.359 I gotta like just wait for the highlights on YouTube. 570 00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.119 That's all I'm gonna get from now on. Until I 571 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.960 figured this out, But I did want to watch baseball. 572 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.039 And what really sucked is Netflix turns around and has 573 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.519 like opening nights on baseball, right, and they had they 574 00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:23.759 had to put a freaking Yankee game on, which if 575 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.400 you're if you're like, if you're from the area I 576 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.279 grew up in, you're you usually either are watching the 577 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.920 Mets or the Yankees. You don't watch both, Okay, I 578 00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:35.680 can't stand the Yankees. Never could. 579 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.799 The nice thing about being up there is there's a 580 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.400 radio station that would at least carry the. 581 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.920 Game, right, I could pull it out of the airs, 582 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.279 even the away games, correct if I knew, And there 583 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:51.000 would be a rare circumstance where it wasn't on that 584 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.920 radio station, and you know where it was, It would 585 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.400 be on like some sports network, so it would be 586 00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.000 on another radio station. You just had to find it. 587 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.440 So you could literally listen to every game, even if 588 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.759 you couldn't watch them all. And when I lived in 589 00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:11.680 the Northeast, frankly, I usually bought the you know, it 590 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.880 was Sports Channel New York. You had to buy, okay, 591 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.079 And then the Yankees came out with their own network, 592 00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:20.200 but Sports Channel New York you could buy it, and 593 00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.680 that gave you the Mets and what was it, the 594 00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:26.640 Mets and the Rangers and a couple of other like 595 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:30.200 major sports teams that had exclusives with them where half 596 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.039 of the games like would be on broadcast and half 597 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:36.119 of the games would be on the specialty channel, you know, 598 00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:39.200 and occasionally there'd be one on like ESPN, and if 599 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.759 you already had the cable to buy Sports Channel New York, 600 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:47.440 then you were able to watch them all. But being 601 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.759 down here, forget it. I can't even if I want 602 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.160 to go to the free station right like the free 603 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.240 station that I could pull out of the air in 604 00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:02.880 New York, it's blocked here. So based on my location, 605 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:08.119 I can't get the met game that's being aired for 606 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.480 free in Jersey, New York. If you can pick it 607 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.599 up with an antanna, you got it, okay, which I 608 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.280 find really disturbing that they did this. I get they 609 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:22.599 did it to TV because people, okay, fine, But now 610 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:25.360 even radio they're doing this with the locators because of 611 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.639 the Internet. So you can't turn around and use your 612 00:34:27.719 --> 00:34:30.400 radio app like you can tune into art station anytime 613 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:34.280 twenty four to seven on your radio app. And many 614 00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.480 other stations are out there for free. Some of them 615 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.159 are broadcast you know, regular W or K depending on 616 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:43.320 which side of the rockies they're on, right whatever. And 617 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:45.360 you can listen to music for free, and you can 618 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:47.440 listen to you know whatever. You just got to put 619 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.559 up with the commercials. You can listen to sports talk 620 00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.079 whatever you want. You want to follow your conservative radio, 621 00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.119 you got it. You want to listen to WABC in 622 00:34:55.199 --> 00:35:00.599 New York, which is like all conservatives all day and 623 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.159 occasionally they throw in one liberal to abuse for a 624 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.079 little while. For a little while there, it was Alan 625 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:10.360 Combs till he died. Then they had that Lynn Samuel's Chick, 626 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.159 and maybe a couple others that ended up on the 627 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.440 bu later, but they never lasted because it's all it's 628 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.480 all guys, and it's all conservative all day, plus nut 629 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:26.079 jobs like Curtis Leewa and w ABC. I can listen to. 630 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.880 I can listen to the news station up there right. 631 00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.599 But I can't listen to and it's not just the Mets, 632 00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.519 it's I can't listen to Devil's games. I can't listen 633 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.920 to Jets games. I can't listen to forget it because 634 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.800 they're all blocked. And I don't know why they're blocking it. 635 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.639 You know, I'm in Georgia. Why would you block that 636 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.119 for people in Georgia for Christ's sake? 637 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.400 Because they want you to buy a subscription. 638 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.000 Yeah, I get that. 639 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.800 That's the money, that's the business. Now every thing is subscription. 640 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.400 But here's yeah, yelling is white. You got to buy 641 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:05.000 a subscription. 642 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.119 But here's the thing, dude, if I got to buy 643 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.719 a subscription for everything, and here's what's happened to a 644 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.079 lot of podcasters that realized finally that they need to 645 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.000 be on YouTube, which really puts me at a terrible 646 00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.199 disadvantage because if I try and launch a podcast on YouTube, 647 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.719 I am like my perma band is permanent. I have 648 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.960 a YouTube channel, but it's not officially a podcast channel. 649 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.199 If I try to launch a podcast on YouTube officially 650 00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.280 and with the proper stuff and do it the right way, 651 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:40.280 they will again strip away my personal channel. Okay, So 652 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:41.119 I'm sorry, I. 653 00:36:41.119 --> 00:36:44.840 Don't understand, because you've got some people out there putting 654 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.440 content out on YouTube that anybody else would have been 655 00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.679 blocked or banned for. And I don't know how. I 656 00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:54.519 don't know how how who are they paying to be 657 00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.599 able to stay on the air. I give you a good example, 658 00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.400 as camus owens o't know Hannah hell she stays on 659 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.440 YouTube than the fact she's paying for it. No, it's 660 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.079 not paying her one or the other. 661 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:08.400 It's not a money thing. There are people and I know, 662 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.440 as this is especially counterintuitive to people that think, oh, 663 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.199 they only pick on conservatives in the media, you're lying 664 00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:21.320 to yourself. They allow the politically useful to go forward, okay, 665 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:26.639 on these different platforms. They don't ban you, regardless of 666 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:29.440 you even violating their terms of service, all kinds of 667 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.880 things you do technically. But if you're not whitelisted, which 668 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.199 is basically like you're not on a list of people 669 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.599 that are allowed to get away with this. I don't 670 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:44.039 know who makes the decision, but it is. It is 671 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:48.840 not something that's cut based on your orientation or even 672 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:52.760 your material and et cetera. To some degree, it is 673 00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:54.440 like you can't just go on there and threaten to 674 00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:56.920 kill people and stuff, you know, which is. 675 00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.000 Reasonable, and some of the stuff, some of the stuff, 676 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.159 if I have heard, is just blatantly threats, and it's like, 677 00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:05.079 how in the hell they get away with it? But 678 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.440 you look at look at the wait a minute, look 679 00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.639 at the neo Nazi, right, every one of them has 680 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.320 their clips that are put on YouTube. Look at Pierce 681 00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.920 Morgan and the people that he has on and some 682 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.000 of the stuff that they get away with it, it's allowed 683 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:25.199 on YouTube. Tucker Carlson allowed on YouTube, Sean Ryan allowed 684 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:28.039 on YouTube. Yeah, I mean these people one I know 685 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.159 one is the amount of revenue that they bring in 686 00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.000 based off of clicks, plain and simple. These people have 687 00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:39.280 a lot of followers that people listen to how ridiculous 688 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.239 it is that they put on there, but they have 689 00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:43.639 a set number of followers that are going to be 690 00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:45.840 there and give them a lot of them as bot generated. 691 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.519 You can't tell me that somebody can have two billion 692 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:55.800 people listening within five seconds of going on air start 693 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:58.800 of Slayton. It's all bought driven. The majority of it 694 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.239 is bot driven. It's not legitimate people out there listening 695 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:04.079 to what hell they said. And you've got a list 696 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.360 of people that are supposedly conservative that are getting away 697 00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.639 with this craft. You look at this new group that's 698 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.920 out there that you know they're they're flipping the flipping 699 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:19.719 the conserv it's all. It's all an op people. Money 700 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.159 is changing hands because think about it, who owns you 701 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:26.159 to Google? Google is letting these people get away with craft. 702 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:33.199 Good buddy, back during COVID when everybody got wiped off, 703 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.960 I mean years and years of work just done away 704 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:42.440 with deleted mine included forever mine included exactly. And now 705 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.559 you've got a group of people that are getting away 706 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.119 with it now, and it's money changing hands, that's all 707 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.199 it is. It's a money op and somebody's behind it, 708 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:51.840 somebody's getting rich off of it. 709 00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.639 Well, if you talk a need right now, I finally 710 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.920 cut off my history so that I could go and 711 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:00.280 pick the stuff I wanted to watch on youtub tube 712 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.960 instead of getting this constant feed of bullshit. 713 00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.639 Well, if you take a look at who bought these 714 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:10.440 companies recently, that's where the change is taking place. In 715 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:16.639 the past few years, very quietly, ownership changed hands here. Okay. 716 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:21.519 There's no such thing as the liberal media. There's no 717 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:27.760 such thing. These tech bros are not liberals, okay, and 718 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.599 they have changed the equation unfairly in the other direction. 719 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.159 Now they let the ridiculous liberals prattle on, but they 720 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.440 don't get traction. And it's not just about the revenue 721 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:42.719 generated from the clicks. Because here's the thing. They have 722 00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.440 bots that will turn around and clip you out and 723 00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.679 cut your channel off and put you aside before human 724 00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:53.800 being could have possibly made the decision, they simply turn. 725 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.840 That brings up a story. Yeah, that brings up a 726 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.440 story that I was going to talk about last week. Sure, 727 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:03.119 a guy in North Carolina just got nailed in federal court. 728 00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:12.559 He went and created one thousand songs AI generated music, okay, 729 00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:17.960 and then went out and created a thousand bots to 730 00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:22.559 stream the music that he created something like eight million 731 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.000 dollars worth of money that he pulled away from all 732 00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.360 I want to say spot On. I don't know which 733 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.960 streaming service it was, but they finally the Feds took 734 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:36.320 him to court and he got convicted from it. Now, 735 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:40.000 this guy was smart. He creates the music out of AI, 736 00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:43.280 then cre uses AI to create the box to stream 737 00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:46.159 the music, and he's raking in eight million dollars before 738 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:49.440 he finally gets nailed, which was pulling money from legitimate 739 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.599 artists that were putting music out there that was supposed 740 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:54.760 to be in the revenue sharing. The guy was brilliant. 741 00:41:56.639 --> 00:41:59.760 Well, see, here's the thing I would argue, he's not 742 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:05.119 a damn dime from a legitimate artist. He's exploiting the system, 743 00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.599 but he's not taking a dime. Which artist is he 744 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.559 taking money from? These are bots that are not going 745 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:16.239 to buy the legitimate artist crap anyway, right, And this 746 00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:16.920 is music. 747 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:18.320 Let me find the story. 748 00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.320 That legitimate people aren't. But you see what I'm saying, 749 00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.119 This is twisted, it's wrong because the truth is he 750 00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.159 exploited the system. There should be no criminal action against 751 00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.960 this guy because he exploited the system the way it stands, 752 00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:34.480 and quite frankly, yeah, it's unfair, it's ridiculous, but it 753 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.400 shows exactly how ridiculous the whole thing is. I mean, 754 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:40.719 if I was any kind of rock star right now 755 00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.239 and I had any sort of following, I would include 756 00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.199 extra bots in every single thing I did, just to 757 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:49.760 pump up you know, why not hire a couple of 758 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.239 guys to pump up my stuff? Which, by the way, 759 00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.639 that's how a lot of these podcasters have their stuff. 760 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.599 They have bots, And there are people with armies of 761 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:03.800 these things that haven't been busted because there are in 762 00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.000 other countries and whatever else. They haven't been taken down 763 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.920 and you can just buy them. You don't know where 764 00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:14.000 they're coming from. They show up on VPNs, like right now, 765 00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:15.719 I could look like I have, you know, one hundred 766 00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.360 thousand listeners again like I used to legitimately have, and 767 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:24.239 they weren't bots. I could get that in a second. 768 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.920 If I could pay for it. I could have that tomorrow. 769 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.079 Kay, here we go. 770 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:30.039 You know what I mean? 771 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:31.920 Well, and I think they explained in here how he 772 00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:36.400 was pulling money. It says federal prosecutors have secured a 773 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.119 landmark conviction and what's being described as the first criminal 774 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.920 streaming fraud case in US history, after a North Carolina 775 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.880 musician admitted to orchestrating an eight million skeet and eight 776 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:49.880 million dollar scheme powered in part by artificial intelligence. The 777 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:53.880 guy's name is Michael Smith. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy 778 00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:58.440 to commit wire fraud in New York federal court. Let's 779 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.400 see what he did. He generated thousands of fake songs 780 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.840 using an artificial intelligence, and then streamed those fake songs 781 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.320 billions of times, he says US attorney Jay Clayton. Although 782 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.360 the songs and listeners were fake, the millions of dollars 783 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.760 Smith stole was real. Millions of dollars in royalties that 784 00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:21.360 Smith diverted from real deserving artists and rights holders. Smith's 785 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:26.239 brazen scheme is over stands convicted of a federal crime, 786 00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:29.360 and it says, according to the plea agreement, he agreed 787 00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:32.400 to forfeit more than eight million tied to the screen scheme. 788 00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:34.800 His prison sentence was expected to be in the range 789 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:38.119 of forty six to fifty seven months, but they have 790 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:41.199 he's dealt aside that it's sentencing, and I'm not sure 791 00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:41.840 when that is. 792 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:43.920 You see how the hold on a second though, You 793 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:46.840 see how they're not Actually they're full of shit, And 794 00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:49.199 that whole idea that he's taking money from a legitimate 795 00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.760 artist is bullshit too. 796 00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.400 He exploited the because these payments were from it says. 797 00:44:55.679 --> 00:44:58.719 The goal was simple, exploit the royalty system, where payouts 798 00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:03.480 are distributed from a shared pool by inflating plays and 799 00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:09.119 diverting revenue. Yes, apparently this money, well, but he's pulling. 800 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.000 He was stealing money from people that should have gotten 801 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.360 and for streams that they were getting, but because his 802 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.880 streams were higher, he was getting more of the revenue. 803 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:23.559 Yeah, of course, listen, but that again is exploitation of 804 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.079 the system. If this guy doesn't enter the system, let's 805 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.559 remember this part of it. If he doesn't enter the 806 00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:33.159 system at all, the streams don't go up either. See 807 00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.159 where they're full of shit. What is happening is the 808 00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:41.960 corporate criminals that have been robbing artists for decades are 809 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.800 pissed off that somebody figured out how to beat him. 810 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.880 That's what it is because there was always a pool. 811 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:52.800 There was a collective artist pool that always was gathered together, 812 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.400 and it was really sloppy, and it started to exist, 813 00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.400 I think in the nineteen seventies, and I was signed 814 00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:03.159 onto it as a professional music okay, And I'm telling 815 00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.119 you now, you know, I never got any revenue out 816 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.320 of it. But it was a collective thing. Like even 817 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.760 if they had, you know, like somebody had made bootleg material, 818 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:14.079 but it was legitimate music and you had rights to 819 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.679 it if you made payments from other countries and from 820 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:20.000 US territories. If you made like if like if you 821 00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.880 were in Guam and you released like a live album 822 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.760 okay on your own record label from an artist that 823 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.280 you have no right to release from. If you made 824 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.159 payments to this thing, the artist couldn't go after you. 825 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.000 They would have to go after the book. I paid 826 00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:38.360 the legitimate artists fee over here, and you'd go draw 827 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.840 your money out of that pool. That bullshit system that 828 00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:46.559 they allowed to prevail for about fifty years, okay, until 829 00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:49.280 very recently with this whole you know, digital new stuff 830 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.440 was just a way to rob the artists anyway. So 831 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.039 what I'm saying is, if he doesn't add the extra streams, 832 00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:59.280 let's stick to this point, though, think about it. They're 833 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.480 gonna whine, you know, in favor of the corporate scumbags. 834 00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.880 But the point is that let's just say he adds 835 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.119 eighty million listeners and eighty million streams to the system, 836 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.280 and therefore he gets a big share. Oh, he takes 837 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.599 out of the pool. But here's the thing. If he 838 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.000 never creates the music in the pool, if he never 839 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.159 dips into the pool, you see what I'm saying. He's 840 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:24.000 not stealing from the artists. He's stealing from the bullshit 841 00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.880 system where they control what they're paying the artists anyway. 842 00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.119 And you want to hear these guys complain about the 843 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:29.960 stream good. 844 00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.840 This is out of Department of Justice explains it. 845 00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:35.960 Yeah, fucking screams through. 846 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:39.800 Music streaming platform Just listen, okay, go ahead. Each time 847 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.880 a song is streamed through one of the streaming platforms, 848 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:47.360 the songwriter who composed the song, the musician who performed it, 849 00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.639 and in certain cases other rights holders are entitled to 850 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:56.199 small royalty payments. Royalty payments are made proportionately to the 851 00:47:56.320 --> 00:48:01.199 musicians and songwriters from a pool of funds. As a result, 852 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:07.000 streaming fraud diverts funds from musicians and songwriters whose songs 853 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:11.360 were legitimately streamed by real consumers to those who use 854 00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:15.559 automation to falsely create the appearance of legitimate streaming. So 855 00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:19.880 he was taking because the money is playing proportionally to 856 00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:21.119 actual artists. 857 00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:22.440 Uh huh, I get what you're saying. 858 00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:26.519 He was taking money from them, money that they would 859 00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:31.000 have gotten. He got because of the proportionality part of it. 860 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.960 When you have a thousand songs and it's you know, 861 00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:39.000 a billion streams, Yes, you're taking money from those people 862 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:40.880 who actually should have gotten it from the pool. 863 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:46.840 Cool, okay, But here's the problem. He's also generating part 864 00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:51.800 of that pool, and that pool system, I'm trying to 865 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:56.000 tell you, is illegitimate without this guy interfering with it, 866 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.280 it is a good way for them to skim. 867 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:01.280 And no, I understand. Look, I understand artists have been 868 00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:05.880 getting ripped off because of the money that the music industry, 869 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:07.840 and it's changed a lot since a lot of artists 870 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:09.760 have gone independent. I understand that. 871 00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:11.639 And here's the thing they're not telling you. 872 00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.800 From people who should actually be getting that money by 873 00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:18.280 making a fake song and fake box streaming it. Okay, 874 00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:20.760 it's taking because it is paid proportionally. 875 00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.280 Okay, I get that, But here's why I dispute it, 876 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.880 because he's generating. Okay, here's the thing. Let's just imagine 877 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.280 that there's a million dollars in this pool without this 878 00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:35.639 guy coming in, right, he doesn't touch it. There's a 879 00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.159 million dollars in there, and I assure you there's all 880 00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:43.840 kinds of chicanery, fake bullshit, extra publishing companies drawing out 881 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.519 of this and fucking over the artists every which way 882 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:49.880 you can imagine, because I know it for a fact 883 00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.599 that that's what happens with this pool. Anyways. This pool 884 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.599 is based on that same pool system I told you 885 00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.599 about before. So here's the thing. There's a million dollars 886 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:04.679 in there, no bots. The bots show up and generate 887 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:09.280 more money into the pool. Okay, there's a way to 888 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.920 do this so it doesn't really affect the artists because 889 00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:13.920 let's just say, out of that million dollars, you got 890 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:15.480 an artist that's supposed to get. 891 00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:16.079 One hundred grand. 892 00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:22.880 Well, if these bots come in and triple the size 893 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.719 of the money, right and create some phantom money into 894 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.320 the pool and they turn it into three million dollars. Okay, fine, 895 00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:35.360 they steal a million dollars out of it, but they've 896 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.840 still doubled the pool. This is the thing, This is 897 00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.360 the math that they're not showing us though. You see, 898 00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:44.760 this could actually be without harming the artists, but harming 899 00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:49.519 the system, which is based on a bunch of bullshit anyway. 900 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.719 And that's why I'm telling you there is an equation 901 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:55.199 here that doesn't mean that any money's being stolen from 902 00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:58.400 an actual artist because a fake artist showed up put 903 00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.920 fake stuff into it. You know what I'm saying. It's 904 00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.960 like it doesn't rob your bank account because somebody came 905 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:09.119 in and stole cash out of the bank. It didn't 906 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.760 rob your bank account. And in fact, if it shows 907 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.159 that you know, somehow or other, they generated a whole 908 00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:17.880 bunch of BS money in the first place, they generferated 909 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.119 counterfeit money, and then they drew part of the counterfeit 910 00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.880 money out. If they generate enough, the artists can actually 911 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.039 benefit from the bots, and the bot can also take 912 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.280 away money. The people that get hurt are these people 913 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.480 that are trying to screw the people with these little 914 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.960 tiny bullshit percentages that they're paying to utilize their music. 915 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:40.039 See radio stations used to have things that they had 916 00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:43.239 to pay to be part of the collective that could 917 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:51.119 play commercially released music. You know this about radio, right, So, 918 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.000 but the thing is if I turn around and I 919 00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.360 create an artist that never plays anywhere, but somehow I 920 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:03.280 also create those plays on that radio station. If I 921 00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.480 don't add any money into the system, then I'd be 922 00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:10.719 stealing from the other artists. But these bots also add 923 00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.440 money into the system. This is where the corporate scumbags 924 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.599 are crying foul when they're the foul ones to begin with. 925 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.119 I'm telling you it's it's a smoke screen. It's a 926 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:22.239 little complex, but think about it. If you're able to 927 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:26.199 add enough of these bots in quite honestly, every artist 928 00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:29.199 can benefit in the pool with enough bots. The only 929 00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.320 people that don't benefit are the people that are trying 930 00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:33.960 to squeeze it down to only paying a penny for 931 00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.159 a freaking stream. 932 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:38.400 Yeah, but you're not going to benefit all the artists 933 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:39.719 if they're not being streamed. 934 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.800 Yeah, but they're not. Nobody's stopping you from streaming your 935 00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:48.039 favorite country artists on Spotify. Nobody's stopping real people from 936 00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:48.440 doing it. 937 00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.320 Saying is this. Let's say let's say you got a 938 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:57.519 million dollars in the pool. Right, Let's say you have 939 00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.199 ano songs. Let's say the though for one song, you've 940 00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:05.920 got a writer, an artist, and a record label. Okay, 941 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.880 so you think you break that one into thirds. Now, 942 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.639 this guy creates a million more songs, and they're the 943 00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:16.079 ones that are getting streamed. He's cutting out those legitimate 944 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.440 artists and people that have a share in the pool 945 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:22.320 that existed. He hasn't created any more money. What he's 946 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.559 done is create if he's created anything else more in 947 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.639 the pool, he's siphoning off the top of it. And 948 00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:31.239 these guys, if you've got a million artists and a 949 00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.400 million songs and a million dollars in there, and let's 950 00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:38.199 say they all have one stream, they all get a dollar. 951 00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.719 But if he's sitting there taking if he's generating two 952 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:48.920 million streams or three million streams, no money is being 953 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:53.000 put back in there from his end of it, and 954 00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.400 he's taking it from people who had legitimate streams because 955 00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.320 it's all proportional. That's what I'm saying. Yes, it's screwed 956 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:01.320 up system. 957 00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:02.079 Yeah, but we. 958 00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:04.760 Found a way to ciphon off eight million dollars off 959 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:07.320 of just Ai and Box. He didn't even have to 960 00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:08.280 do a damn thing. 961 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:11.599 Right, that's on the bots. Yeah, But what I'm saying 962 00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:15.320 is that with the right number, your equation doesn't work out. 963 00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:18.480 To take it away from the artists it because. 964 00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.760 Well, it certainly does work out, because he walked away 965 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.280 with eight million dollars and it didn't put a dime 966 00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:26.800 in it other than creating the songs from Ai Okay, 967 00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.079 bots to go and stream at a billion dimes. 968 00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.280 Okay, but he walked away with eight million dollars. Do 969 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:33.480 you know how much money you have to generate to 970 00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:38.880 walk away with eight million dollars as an artist? I mean, seriously, 971 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.159 damn bit so generated into that piegent over a billion streams. Okay, 972 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:49.800 But that's the thing, a billion streams. Okay. I know 973 00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:51.360 this is you're saying is true. 974 00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:54.199 Wait, if what you're saying is true, then all of 975 00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:57.079 those other artists should have made more money as well. 976 00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:02.599 Yeah they should exactly, Okay, but it didn't. But here's 977 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.039 the thing. The reason why they're not making the more 978 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.880 money is not because of this guy. Okay, let me 979 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.719 let me, let me try and run into you this way. 980 00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:13.840 Do you know how old record sales worked? Because they 981 00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:16.760 still basically do the same damn thing to an actual 982 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.079 artist who create something like. 983 00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.440 Yeah, because when when what Z? When Zeppelin came out 984 00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:26.960 with what was it? Their third album, they completely rewrote 985 00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:29.159 the system on what they were getting paid per unit, 986 00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:33.039 and everybody after that started going to the record the 987 00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.840 companies going hey, how the hell did they get this deal? 988 00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.280 They said, because that's what they demanded, and I think 989 00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:40.760 it was a polydor at the time. That's what they 990 00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.599 paid them. And they rewrote the whole industry on how 991 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:48.440 people were getting paid through unit sales on albums. Yeah, 992 00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:52.320 Atlantic Jepplin broke the system for everybody else to allow 993 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:53.400 them to make more money. 994 00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.679 Yeah. But see they're they're declared the heroes of the system, 995 00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:00.679 and yet they didn't do shit. Because here's what happened 996 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.840 post Zeppelin. Okay, post Zeppelin. You ever noticed that there 997 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:08.079 was all these rock bands in the eighties and nineties 998 00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:10.320 and they would have hit albums, two, three hit albums, 999 00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.440 and they'd be broke. You ever notice that? And everybody go, oh, 1000 00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:16.039 they don't know how to manage their money. They didn't 1001 00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.840 realize what it was they were getting paid on you 1002 00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:22.119 as a consumer. See, let's just say you see a 1003 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.719 ten dollars price tag at the store, right, Let's just 1004 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.079 because the ten dollars is a nice round number to 1005 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:32.400 work off of. The artist who does not control their 1006 00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:36.159 master recordings usually okay, But even if you do control 1007 00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.280 your master recordings, you know, in your ray Charles all right, 1008 00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:43.800 or your prints, you know, you still don't do well. 1009 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.320 But let's go with the typical situation here, because that's 1010 00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:49.719 the majority of what Spotify's dealing with, where they're giving 1011 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.280 you ad revenue equal to the way that that freaking 1012 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:56.320 what do you call it? YouTube? Does you know where 1013 00:56:56.320 --> 00:57:00.000 they run three million dollars worth of ads and you 1014 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:01.159 wind up with one hundred bucks? 1015 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:06.320 Okay, right, because back then, the majority of bands made 1016 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:08.559 money off of touring, not off of record sales. 1017 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.400 But you had to because at least you had control 1018 00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:15.119 of that because the recording situation and publishing and everything 1019 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.639 else still works this way. Now they have annual meetings. 1020 00:57:19.639 --> 00:57:24.119 By the way, this cartel okay, the EMI and the 1021 00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:30.679 other publisher, major publisher ASCAP, they are getting pissed off 1022 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:33.840 because they're not able to rob the artists and rob 1023 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.519 the consumer like they always did. And it's the record 1024 00:57:37.519 --> 00:57:40.719 companies that have lost control because of the independent distribution, 1025 00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.679 believe it or not. Just simply sticking your stuff into 1026 00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:49.280 the Apple Store and selling your own damn singles. You 1027 00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:54.320 see ninety percent more revenue per unit. Now, can you 1028 00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:58.079 make the same sales that's another question. But you get 1029 00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.960 ninety percent of that or that. 1030 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:04.480 Yeah, I know digital recording killed the record in. 1031 00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.559 This yeah, but do you know? Yeah? But do you 1032 00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:09.679 know how much still the publishers are still screwing the 1033 00:58:09.800 --> 00:58:11.960 artist because you still got to publish stuff in order 1034 00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.480 to be able to control your copyright and be able 1035 00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:17.760 to knock people down and DMCA and all that. Do 1036 00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.199 you know how bad that is? Let me start with 1037 00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:24.039 that ten dollars price again, because I swear that it's bad. 1038 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:27.519 But that's that's why. But so many artists, that's why, 1039 00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:29.400 so many artists have gone to putting a shit on 1040 00:58:29.440 --> 00:58:31.519 their own website. You want to stream it, you can 1041 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.480 buy it from them for ninety four cent for a single, right, 1042 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.519 and there is money off of it. And they don't 1043 00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.440 have they don't have the cost of press and vinyl. 1044 00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:41.880 They don't have to cost the press and CDs. It's 1045 00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:44.559 all digital. They sell it to you, you download it, 1046 00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:48.880 and all the profit is theirs. It's killed the record industry. 1047 00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:54.480 I'm surprised that you're seeing the amount of vinyl coming back. 1048 00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.239 I don't know if it's growthing, but you're starting to 1049 00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:01.039 see more and more vinyl productions. Even these K pop 1050 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.679 groups in Korea are printing out vinyl albums instead of 1051 00:59:04.760 --> 00:59:07.880 CDs for people because you because I guess it's a 1052 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:08.519 retro thing. 1053 00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:10.880 You know, you and I can film can form an 1054 00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:14.119 LLC and we can go to the publishing company and 1055 00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:17.440 get the rights to print a piece of vinyl, and 1056 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:19.800 we can have it under a Chuck and B piece 1057 00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:24.599 record label. As a subsidiary of the existing publisher. We 1058 00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:26.800 can act as an agent and distribute that music in 1059 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.239 a limited sense, and then you charge a premium for 1060 00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:33.039 the vinyl pieces and you get cheap manufacturing in Asia. Sorry, 1061 00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:33.440 go ahead. 1062 00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.360 Todd Runggren was one of the first artists that really learned, 1063 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.360 and he was with Bearsville Records, and he's one of 1064 00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.440 those that learned, hey, I can put this shit out myself. 1065 00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.280 He was one of the first big digital wizards. I 1066 00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:50.519 guess you'd call it right, and they really pushed digital music. 1067 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.760 Who was it was? It was it Kanye that started Nabor. 1068 00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:58.119 Remember when that streaming service was on. 1069 00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.199 Well remember that one? 1070 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:03.920 What the hell was the name of it? 1071 01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:04.440 Napster? 1072 01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:05.800 But what was the one? 1073 01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:06.639 Napster? 1074 01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:07.679 What what you said? 1075 01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:08.199 Napster? 1076 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.800 Napster? That's it? Wasn't that started by Kanye and a 1077 01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:12.599 couple other people. 1078 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.280 I didn't think Kanye started it. He might have put 1079 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:17.159 some money in, but I don't think he started it. 1080 01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.960 It was a couple of kids. Yeah, a couple of 1081 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:23.280 kids started it, like why don't we just share our music? 1082 01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:26.079 You know? 1083 01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.079 I mean? And that's why they needed to get rid 1084 01:00:29.119 --> 01:00:31.719 of the digital cassette and they didn't encourage burning your 1085 01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:35.559 own CDs so much anymore because they were. 1086 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:42.199 Fanning and Sean Fanning and Sean Parker's right platform. Yeah, 1087 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.800 and that was everything. Everything was encoded in an MPD 1088 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:49.320 three form mat right, That's what that the peer to 1089 01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:54.880 peer model is what launched these independent artists to start 1090 01:00:54.920 --> 01:01:00.639 putting on their own ves and sell your music that way. Well, 1091 01:01:00.679 --> 01:01:03.599 and here's the thing is having to deal with these companies. 1092 01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:07.119 If Metallica and Waylon Jennings was up on you know, 1093 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:11.119 LimeWire or Napster or whatever else. Then you know, like 1094 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:13.000 I said, you and me form a band, we put 1095 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.599 our ship in there too. It gets shared, there's interest, 1096 01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:20.559 and now we can sell them stuff. Look, that's one model, 1097 01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:24.760 but they're still getting killed on this publishing regardless. And 1098 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:26.800 by the way, it does cost money. Even even the 1099 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.880 guys that tried giving away their albums online. That was 1100 01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:31.559 another trend if you remember that, where it was like, 1101 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:32.880 you know, what's great, We're just going to give it 1102 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.159 to you because you're going to steal it anyway, so 1103 01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:38.239 we'll just give it to you. You know, the anti 1104 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.400 Metallica point of view, you know, because remember Lars alread 1105 01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.280 got all angry and you people are robbing us, and 1106 01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:46.639 it's like, dude, you know what happened to people that 1107 01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:49.559 are robbing you right now? Have already bought See that's 1108 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.199 the other thing, the other part of the greed. How 1109 01:01:52.199 --> 01:01:54.440 many times do you think I have bought in my 1110 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:59.079 life already all kinds of the same copy of the 1111 01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:01.920 same damn album? Right? How many times am I supposed 1112 01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:04.639 to have to keep buying it? You know what I mean? 1113 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:09.079 Every formattually copies of a lot of vinyl. Yeah, because 1114 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:10.400 you'll wear out the first two. 1115 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:12.760 Well, right, but you got copies of vinyl. But I 1116 01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.599 used to buy cassettes CDs. I mean there was a 1117 01:02:15.639 --> 01:02:17.599 point at which I mean I was, I was two 1118 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:20.320 par you know, there's two far removed from the eight tracks. 1119 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.280 But believe me, I would have bought eight tracks, you know, 1120 01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.199 and then you buy the MP three download. How many 1121 01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.400 times do you think you bought that freaking song a record? Anyways, 1122 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:33.480 let me go back to this ten dollars Okay, cool, Look, 1123 01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.519 I used to too, but then this ex wife of mine decided, 1124 01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.440 you know, I wasn't allowed to keep my collection. But anyhow, 1125 01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:43.639 back to the other realities ten dollars. Let's just say 1126 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.440 if you were selling a record back in the old 1127 01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:48.480 days ten dollars and this model prevails. Now, this is 1128 01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:51.639 not an ancient, outdated model. This still exists the way 1129 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:56.119 I'm about to describe it. Okay, ten bucks, right, so 1130 01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:59.480 you imagine how much of that do you think goes 1131 01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:02.760 to who or who's involved in the process, ppe. 1132 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.320 Like, of your ten dollars album. Yeah, they might make 1133 01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:11.400 thirty at the most. 1134 01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:14.559 There you go, that is correct, because you're on a 1135 01:03:14.599 --> 01:03:18.519 point system and an artist who's new is at a 1136 01:03:18.559 --> 01:03:21.760 disadvantage on the point system and they're trying to make 1137 01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:25.800 thirty cents an album. Now they sell three million albums, 1138 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.360 and you say, well, great, they made thirty cents three 1139 01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:32.639 million times, right, But you got to think about that 1140 01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.840 for a minute. And by the time taxes and everything 1141 01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.199 else gets done with them, nobody got rich except guess 1142 01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:44.360 who who makes the other nine dollars and seventy cents? Okay? 1143 01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:48.039 And I get that the you know, the investment of manufacture, 1144 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:49.719 the guarantee that you're you know, you don't have a 1145 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.639 guarantee you're going to sell it. I get the idea 1146 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.480 that half of that ought to go to the people 1147 01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:58.719 taking the risk. Okay, And guess what it does. And 1148 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.840 that's fine. Okay, So say five dollars out of that 1149 01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.800 ten must by default go to your record company, if 1150 01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:09.519 your record company is just a record company that is 1151 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:13.960 in the business of printing and producing your physical product, right, 1152 01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.480 And look, I think that's fair. Do you. 1153 01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:24.119 Don't know? It depends on how much I've got it. 1154 01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:28.639 I mean, I realize it's all in their manufacturing, but yeah, 1155 01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.239 I mean it's it's well in order for you to 1156 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:32.280 sell your system. 1157 01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:34.519 Okay, but it's the old system. But in order for 1158 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.119 you to sell a million, they got to print a million, 1159 01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.239 don't they. Because you can't sell something you don't have, right, 1160 01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:44.320 So the thing is, if you're ambitious or you're controlled 1161 01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:46.559 about it, this might change. You know. Do you sell them? 1162 01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:49.360 Do you read you? Do you now create another issue? 1163 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.280 Do you go back into manufacture again? Is it worth it? 1164 01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:55.800 Did it sell at a reasonable clip? Right? Let's don't 1165 01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:59.199 forget the retailer has to make something. So let's just 1166 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.679 call it a dollar on each one of these things 1167 01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:07.360 that the retailer realistically makes all together. On some products 1168 01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:10.199 they make more, on some they make less. But really 1169 01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:12.920 a retailer is only making ten percent of a profit 1170 01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:16.639 on it at that time and still currently that's the 1171 01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:21.119 way it works, except for guess what we have accounted 1172 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:25.360 for six dollars and thirty cents of the ten The 1173 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:29.639 three dollars and seventy cents goes to the controllers. That 1174 01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:34.719 three dollars and seventy cents is pretty massive, and quite frankly, 1175 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:36.800 the retailer might take a hit because they got to 1176 01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:42.079 put something on sale. The risk taker on production might 1177 01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.239 take a hit because you know, they print, you know, 1178 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.480 eight hundred artists and maybe only two hundred of them 1179 01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:51.880 are successful. You know. That's why there used to be 1180 01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:55.360 such as stringent process for selecting who would be committed 1181 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:59.199 to these massive things, right, and you could always print 1182 01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:01.679 your own stuff, and deependently you can make your own cassettes. 1183 01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:04.480 You know. I used to do the homemade model, but 1184 01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:08.079 other people would literally go manufacture, you know, pieces of vinyl. 1185 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:10.480 A band you never heard of, they just finished in 1186 01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:13.639 the studio, they haven't played a single show. But this 1187 01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.840 is this guy's project. Everybody puts in their money. And 1188 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.239 you know, I've done that on stuff before, and I 1189 01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:21.320 don't have any of that stuff anymore. But believe me, 1190 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.519 out there somewhere in the world there may be pieces 1191 01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:27.199 of mine or with my name on them, okay, that 1192 01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:30.559 were produced. But it was because we sunk a couple 1193 01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:33.599 thousand dollars into it. And I'm not just saying two grand, 1194 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:36.360 but I mean, you know, maybe we sunk ten grand 1195 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.519 into it, which was not small money in the eighties 1196 01:06:38.559 --> 01:06:42.440 or nineties. It was an investment and it either paid 1197 01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:44.519 off or it didn't. So that's why a lot of 1198 01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.960 people went with the homemade model and the cassettes which 1199 01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.440 you could run off on you know, very cheap machines 1200 01:06:49.440 --> 01:06:52.239 with very cheap cassettes, and you could distribute them quickly 1201 01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:57.480 and it was easy. Oh. Anyways, that three dollars and 1202 01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:00.719 seventy cents sounds like, well, gee, it's only a third 1203 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:05.159 of it. Yeah, one third of the whole thing is 1204 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:10.440 controlled simply by the publishers who do nothing but hold 1205 01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:15.719 the copyright and registration on this stuff. Okay, that's really 1206 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.760 the basic breakdown. Now, these other things that I mentioned 1207 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.400 where you got five dollars to the manufacturers, you got 1208 01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:25.280 you know, a dollar to the Those things fluctuate because 1209 01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:29.760 the problems. Okay, a retail store orders records and they 1210 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:33.360 don't sell half of them. They'll have to discount some 1211 01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:36.199 of them, right, and maybe they sell the other ones 1212 01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.760 a little above market value because they're brand new, they're 1213 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:40.920 in higher demand when they first come in, right, they 1214 01:07:40.920 --> 01:07:43.199 put up big displays. We got a case of these 1215 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:46.039 in the case of those, and you know very well 1216 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:47.960 that a lot of that stuff wound up dump later 1217 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.159 onto Like dollar stores is remember when like regular music 1218 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:56.639 was a dollar store. It was because instead of having 1219 01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:59.480 a whole bunch of inventory, dead inventory sitting in these 1220 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.800 you know, go out of business record stores. They dumped 1221 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.440 it off the cheaper the retailers. They get a loss. Okay, 1222 01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:07.280 but who takes the losses? 1223 01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:12.239 Yeah? That part of status. 1224 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.439 I don't know what's going on, you know, it seems okay, 1225 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:21.079 I end up. I'm sorry, I don't know what's going 1226 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:25.840 on with our connection. There we go, but okay, good. 1227 01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:30.119 But what I'm saying is this other the thirty cents 1228 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:34.000 going to the artist is not even thirty cents, because 1229 01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:36.479 by the time they get it, it's more like fifteen cents. 1230 01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:38.159 And this is all done on what they call the 1231 01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:42.239 points system. They don't reveal this to the public very often, 1232 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.840 but the contracts are still the same way. And if 1233 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:49.479 you try and do stuff independently, yeah, that's great, but 1234 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:52.880 you still have these people that wind up swallowing up things, 1235 01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.640 these these other you know, the amounts that I talk about, 1236 01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.039 the dollar to the retailer, the five dollars to the 1237 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:03.800 record company, those things will fluctuate based on various things. 1238 01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:06.039 And where does that money all end up in that 1239 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:11.000 ten dollars product still in the very solidly non fluctuating 1240 01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:17.359 hands of the publishers, they collectively create these pools where 1241 01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:20.479 they say we have a shared artist pool, which is 1242 01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:24.199 always a gigantic rip off because you don't know how 1243 01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:25.960 much of that You know, how much of that artist 1244 01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:31.239 pool goes to administration. You got to have people that 1245 01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:37.199 you know, actually do the accounting, don't you. Yeah, so realistically, 1246 01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.600 and artist makes fifteen cents on ten dollars, that's what 1247 01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:45.359 they'll put in their pocket, and the publisher will wind 1248 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:50.119 up with seven dollars out of that ten and two 1249 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:55.399 and one is left over for again the retailer with 1250 01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:57.880 the fluctuations, because they'll be able to balance it out 1251 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.199 hopefully or they go out of business, and then you 1252 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:05.239 have the two dollars that really goes to the manufacturers 1253 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:09.640 which caused them. If you remember records, like in the eighties, 1254 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.920 all of a sudden, the paper was thinner, the vinyl 1255 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:18.399 was thinner, right, you could almost rub the words off 1256 01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:23.279 of the labels. You remember that. That's why you don't 1257 01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:26.960 see those I don't know what's going on, but in 1258 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.000 the eighties. You know, if you go to a flea 1259 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:32.319 market now, you don't see a lot of those records 1260 01:10:32.319 --> 01:10:35.319 from the eighties to existing. You see records from the seventies. 1261 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:39.239 You see records from the sixties because the manufacturers started 1262 01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:43.800 trying to cut corners. Because the overall majority of the 1263 01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:48.359 money ends up in the copyright controllers, in the people 1264 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:53.000 that actually do the DMCA stuff, in the emis, that's 1265 01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.159 where the money really goes. And the artists, no matter 1266 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.600 who they are, we'll still sit there at fifteen cents, 1267 01:11:00.039 --> 01:11:04.039 ninety percent of them, the upper echelons who end up 1268 01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:08.119 with control over stuff still don't you know, you ever 1269 01:11:08.159 --> 01:11:10.560 see Prince do the explanation on how much money has 1270 01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:14.720 made and how much he ends up with, Yeah, you 1271 01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:17.119 know where he's like, yeah, okay, I got twenty million dollars, 1272 01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:20.359 I get it, But how much do you think was 1273 01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:29.720 made off of my music? Realistic? And you know when 1274 01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:31.840 you go to the millions and millions and millions of 1275 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:37.800 albums he saw, you realize, oh, Prince didn't make the money. 1276 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:40.920 Never does And no matter how they slice this, this 1277 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.720 is the way it goes. So here's the thing that 1278 01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:46.319 this guy exploited is a system in which they pull 1279 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:53.039 together money and they try and pay people pennies. Anyway, 1280 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:57.600 this guy generated more pennies to be paid because he 1281 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.760 had to put more dollars in to begin with. The 1282 01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:04.079 problem that they're pissed off about is he made counterfeit 1283 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:08.000 dollars into the system. Now, if that stuff was distributed 1284 01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:11.600 by percentage to the other artists, if he goes big 1285 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.000 enough with his fake box and his fake music, the 1286 01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:21.800 artists don't lose at all. The system does. And I 1287 01:12:21.800 --> 01:12:24.439 gotta say, I'm not feeling bad about it because all 1288 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:28.159 they've done is from the beginning of time, turn around 1289 01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:30.720 and give pennies to the people who actually create the art. 1290 01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:35.680 That's the reality of so, you know, and the led 1291 01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:39.000 Zeppelin role that's a little more complex then you might 1292 01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:43.439 think it is. They might have improved things, but really 1293 01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:49.960 Ray Charles shit way bigger than And even with that, 1294 01:12:49.960 --> 01:12:52.039 that's how we get to the thirty cents. By the way, 1295 01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:56.720 before that, you were talking about getting seven points if 1296 01:12:56.720 --> 01:13:01.720 you were a rock star on a freaking album, seven points, 1297 01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:06.319 which is nothing, you know, when there's like a. 1298 01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:11.039 Tour today under the standards. Yeah, well even today they 1299 01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:13.199 say that the only way that these groups make money 1300 01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:17.039 is by touring. The emergency sales, intouring and ticket sales, 1301 01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:20.359 and that's been you know, that's been any major record 1302 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:28.000 company in existence. That's the policy. You're not going to 1303 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.640 make crap on them with the schedules that they had 1304 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.720 because it was the only way they could make their money. 1305 01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:44.239 Mm hmm. Well in the fifties and sixties the record 1306 01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:50.560 companies controlled the tours too, and oh yeah, well that's 1307 01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:52.399 really you see now, if you want to talk about 1308 01:13:52.439 --> 01:13:56.359 where led Zeppelin did something, that's where they really did something. 1309 01:13:57.079 --> 01:13:59.840 But they also got robbed by other gangsters along the way, 1310 01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.359 because I don't know if you remember when they came 1311 01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.159 to New York and they did like, you know, sold 1312 01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:06.640 out shows at Madison Square Garden and stuff like that, 1313 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:11.479 you know, which people imagine that that building is larger 1314 01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:13.119 than it is. It's not quite as large as a 1315 01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:16.079 lot of people imagine, but the seats are very expensive. 1316 01:14:17.239 --> 01:14:21.439 Somebody walked away with the cash box led Zepp like 1317 01:14:22.680 --> 01:14:25.800 something like seven million dollars. I mean, in nineteen seventies 1318 01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:29.279 money on money that was supposed to be collected. That 1319 01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:32.479 did just the cash just walked away in New York, 1320 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:37.119 by the way. But the thing is, they changed that 1321 01:14:37.159 --> 01:14:43.720 touring thing park where finally the artists could you know, 1322 01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:45.920 it was like somebody got it in their brain I'm 1323 01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.079 not going to let the record company run this part too. 1324 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:52.239 And they use these you know, maverick type manager people 1325 01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.640 who didn't give a shit about the business and turned 1326 01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:58.239 around and said, screw you. I'm gonna contract my own people. 1327 01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:01.960 I'll have my own t shirt manufactured, I'll put my 1328 01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.239 own people out there to sell them. I'll figure out 1329 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.119 how much to pay them, and then I'll also just 1330 01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:08.960 cut up the money with the owner of the venue, 1331 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.920 my damn self. And that's how tour managers were born, 1332 01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.159 because there wasn't tour managers for these guys when they 1333 01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:20.079 put like ten bands together in the sixties and they 1334 01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:24.039 used to have you know, everybody touring together, right like, 1335 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:27.039 you know, Chuck Berry and freaking eight other rock stars 1336 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:29.960 would be on a thing with a band of fucking 1337 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:35.600 fifteen sixteen people behind them with full orchestras, and you know, 1338 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:39.760 they barely paid those people. But but but you had 1339 01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:43.039 these massive tours. These guys got nothing out of their tours. 1340 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:46.920 They got nothing out of their tours, and and they 1341 01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.079 screwed them over on the record sales. Even the little 1342 01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:51.039 bit of record sale money they were supposed to get, 1343 01:15:51.039 --> 01:15:53.680 they were screwing them on it. Like you ever see 1344 01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:56.000 that what is it called Chess Records? Is the name 1345 01:15:56.039 --> 01:15:58.800 of it or no Cadillac Records, right, remember the movie 1346 01:15:58.840 --> 01:15:59.680 Cadillac Records. 1347 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.760 Yeah, Chess record was the Chess Records was bigged back 1348 01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:05.520 in the late fifties early sixties. 1349 01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:08.399 It was based on Chess Records though. And the whole 1350 01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.720 thing was why do they call it Cadillac Records? Because 1351 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.000 the owner of the record company bought every one of 1352 01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:17.319 his artists a Cadillac as a gesture. But every time 1353 01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:19.920 they turned around, they were all grow whether it was 1354 01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.880 Edna James or it was you know, freaking Jump Berry 1355 01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:26.920 or Muke Warners. He had all those people and they 1356 01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:28.800 were all broke at the end of the day. After 1357 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:32.079 millions and millions of dollars were generated in nineteen fifties 1358 01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:38.399 and sixties, a million dollars dollars and it wasn't there 1359 01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:40.640 was nothing uncommon about that. That is the way the 1360 01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:44.600 music business really works. The artist gets next to nothing. 1361 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.520 Well, I'll give you an example. Back in ninety four, 1362 01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:52.399 ninety three, ninety four, Walnut Creeve Up and I Amptheter 1363 01:16:52.520 --> 01:16:56.520 up and Raleigh the Eagles went on tour that year. Well, 1364 01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:59.319 during the summer, they have this thing called rib Fast 1365 01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:04.760 and for a week they'll have artists come in and play. 1366 01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:07.680 Certain nights, might cost you ten bucks to get in. 1367 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:10.640 They got a bunch of barbecue places up their cooking 1368 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:14.479 ribs and the big thing in is fad music. Well, 1369 01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:17.880 when the Eagles hit Ridfest was the week before the 1370 01:17:17.920 --> 01:17:22.760 Eagles played, I stood in line for like thirteen hours. 1371 01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:25.399 I was able to get tickets for me and my wife. 1372 01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:28.640 Spent over one hundred dollars per ticket. 1373 01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:33.520 Just to see the Eagles the week before the show 1374 01:17:33.840 --> 01:17:35.039 was Ridfest. 1375 01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:39.199 One night we spent ten bucks and we saw Glen Fryde. 1376 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:43.800 We spent another ten bucks and we saw Joe Walsh. 1377 01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:46.399 But the show at the end of the week on 1378 01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:49.920 Friday night was the Eagles. That cost us one hundred 1379 01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:53.439 bucks oclock. I mean, it's just amazing how much these 1380 01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:55.600 guys were winning to make to play. 1381 01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.800 You know, two hours of their own stuff at ten 1382 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:00.760 up to a ticket. 1383 01:18:01.880 --> 01:18:02.960 But at the end of the. 1384 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:06.279 Week that place was slam pull at over one hundred 1385 01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:10.119 dollars per person, even for the grass seats. I mean, 1386 01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:13.640 it was just amazing the money generated. The difference between 1387 01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:15.000 Wednesday night when Joe. 1388 01:18:14.840 --> 01:18:17.640 Walsh played and Friday Night when the Eagles played. 1389 01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:21.119 The amount of money that rolled in that play correct. 1390 01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:23.479 Look in ninety four is a great time period because 1391 01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:25.600 that's when I was still involved in the music business 1392 01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:31.600 directly Todd Rudgren you mentioned, right, So Todd Rudgren and 1393 01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.600 another artist when he was a guy from a Hot Tuna. 1394 01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:37.079 I can't remember his name, but he was a solo artist. 1395 01:18:37.079 --> 01:18:43.079 He was kind of popular, dam I can't remember what. Anyway, 1396 01:18:43.319 --> 01:18:46.359 Todd Rundgren came and played clubs in New Jersey. Do 1397 01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.439 you know how much he was getting paid to play 1398 01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:56.039 clubs in Jersey? I have no idea five hundred bucks, okay. 1399 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.239 And the reason but I'd be surprised he wasn't paying 1400 01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:01.760 more because he had his Utopia band together. 1401 01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:05.039 I mean, he was those guys. I would have paid 1402 01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:07.279 anything to see him at that time. Let's put it 1403 01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.760 that way. I enjoyed his music that. 1404 01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.520 Much, okay, But he was going and playing clubs in 1405 01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:15.800 Jersey for five hundred bucks that had ticket prices of 1406 01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:20.319 about ten dollars. That's where he was at. And because 1407 01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:24.159 the reason why is because it was just him you 1408 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:29.000 contracted with, you know, his representative that was it. Todd 1409 01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.039 Rudgren could show up, but he wasn't going to get 1410 01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:36.279 the big rate. Now, a regular heavy metal band that 1411 01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:39.039 came through who was fairly popular but didn't have the 1412 01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:42.800 longevity or you know, the easier audience that Todd Rundgren 1413 01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:46.359 would have. I wish I could remember this freaking guy 1414 01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:48.640 from Hatuna because he was kind of popular and people 1415 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.159 are surprised. But I was involved with the booking of 1416 01:19:51.159 --> 01:19:54.079 this guy too. I can't remember his damn name. He 1417 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:57.520 was like a guitarist. He used to do an acoustics set, 1418 01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:01.560 greg I can't remember. Anyways, some of these artists were, 1419 01:20:01.720 --> 01:20:04.680 you know, formerly something, but now the record company's dropping. 1420 01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:07.760 The second their record companies dropped him, their price went 1421 01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:11.640 way the hell down. But they were making more money 1422 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.680 off of five hundred dollars with me. This is what 1423 01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:17.800 his people explained, because it was sort of like five 1424 01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:19.880 hundred bucks. You're sure I don't have extra stuff to 1425 01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:22.960 pay here? No, okay, that was the best price is 1426 01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.159 going to be negotiating five hundred bucks. But the reason 1427 01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:28.720 was he was able to keep more of that five 1428 01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:31.640 hundred dollars than if I had him when the record 1429 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:36.760 company was bringing him and saying, look, five grand, okay, 1430 01:20:38.079 --> 01:20:40.600 literally ten times the price, and this guy's going to 1431 01:20:40.640 --> 01:20:45.880 make one hundred bucks five hundred dollars. You know, maybe 1432 01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:49.920 he keeps half of it really realistically okay, because they 1433 01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:51.920 you know, they schedule things around it so he's not 1434 01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.479 going too far. They get a cheap hotel somewhere or 1435 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.159 they have, you know, something they can all sleep in, right, 1436 01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:01.000 and they economize on the tour. He's keeping more money 1437 01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:04.359 out of that five hundred than he would if he was, 1438 01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:06.720 you know, in a place that had one hundred dollars 1439 01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:12.840 tickets and the again, the record company and the management 1440 01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:17.159 is charging five grand. And these aren't you know, I know, 1441 01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:19.359 these aren't the biggest rock stars of their day. They're 1442 01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:22.319 not exactly at the peak of their careers. But I'm 1443 01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:26.039 telling you, guys, from that to Typo Negative was pretty popular. 1444 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:30.359 Back then, Boarr was a bigger show, you know. But 1445 01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:32.399 we were paying them seven hundred and fifty bucks. 1446 01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:39.359 Sorry, I was gonna say, is it is it Captain 1447 01:21:40.119 --> 01:21:43.359 how Opening or Jack Cassidy? Those were the two guys 1448 01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:45.359 that are not beating that they can get for the airplane. 1449 01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:50.119 I don't know it was and now it doesn't sound right. 1450 01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:55.279 It was a blonde guy who was part of hat 1451 01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:58.359 Tuna at some point, I don't I don't remember me. 1452 01:21:58.920 --> 01:22:01.119 It really didn't matter because it was sort of like, Okay, 1453 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:05.000 I'm going to get the older classic rock crowd into 1454 01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:08.920 this place, so obviously I'm happy to pay him five 1455 01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:12.000 hundred bucks, pay the staff. You know, this is pretty simple. 1456 01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:16.319 I spend one thousand dollars on the night and all 1457 01:22:16.359 --> 01:22:18.279 I got to do is sell one hundred tickets and 1458 01:22:18.520 --> 01:22:21.199 I break even. Right, But I got a place that 1459 01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:25.199 holds three four hundred people. Good done, you know what 1460 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:29.640 I'm saying. And that's a proper hand, you know. And 1461 01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:31.520 like I said, the seven hundred and fifty dollars to 1462 01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:34.520 some of these bigger artists, and this is really why 1463 01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:36.520 there was no money left to pay the local artists 1464 01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:39.079 who would work your asses off and also promote the show, 1465 01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:42.640 because they would just get paid a percentage on their tickets. 1466 01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:46.399 And you know what, that was twenty percent, And that 1467 01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:49.760 was better still as a percentage than you were ever 1468 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:52.479 going to see when you had these record companies and 1469 01:22:52.520 --> 01:22:55.680 these freaking thieves and gangsters involved in your business. 1470 01:22:57.239 --> 01:23:00.159 My point is what that bad they had these has 1471 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:02.680 had some talent in it, because Marty Ballin was in it, 1472 01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:06.199 Paul Canter was in it, Papa John Creech was there 1473 01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:09.840 for a while. I didn't realized that all these guys 1474 01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:10.680 were in Hot Tuna. 1475 01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:13.880 Well, try and figure out which guy was in Hot 1476 01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:17.560 Tuna that was touring in the early though in mid nineties, 1477 01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:19.079 because I. 1478 01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:21.279 Gut, I know he hates Yeah. 1479 01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:24.600 He had blonde hair, remember that. And I don't remember 1480 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:26.239 much about you know, I didn't deal with him directly. 1481 01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:29.640 I don't was you know, his his representative, but he 1482 01:23:29.680 --> 01:23:32.119 only had one representative, Smith. 1483 01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:33.479 G. 1484 01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:37.079 Smith. Yeah, yeah, sure, from the Saturday Night line man. 1485 01:23:37.239 --> 01:23:41.279 Yeah, he toured, was him in twenty eleven. I didn't 1486 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:41.600 know that. 1487 01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.239 Yeah, Okay, let's see the list that they got. 1488 01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:51.319 Neither Paulmer members are Jolly Coveton was on drums, Paul Cantor, 1489 01:23:51.399 --> 01:23:55.439 who was with them in Jefferson Starship, our Jeffson Airplane, 1490 01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.640 Marty Bollin who was with him in Jefferson Airplane, Paul Seeger, 1491 01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:05.319 Peter Kylekin who was the other one's brother, Papa John Creek, 1492 01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:15.640 Sammy Piazza, Bob's heear Michael Faxonaro, Joey Balin, Pete Sears, 1493 01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:20.319 That's about the only one I've got. They don't list 1494 01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.359 anybody in the nineties. Pete Sears was in the nineties, 1495 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:29.159 Galen Underwood and of course the two Jack Cassidy and 1496 01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:34.159 Jorma Callakin and they've been with the band ever since 1497 01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:34.880 it started. 1498 01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:39.720 I did, did Peter Bollin or Sears tour in the 1499 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.800 nineties as a solo artist? Has just asked the Internet 1500 01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.000 that because. 1501 01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:49.960 Balin, well, Marty Balin was with him from sixty nine 1502 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:54.399 to seventy. Paul Panter was problems in sixty nine, eighty 1503 01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:57.880 seven to eighty eight. He died in two thoustany sixteen 1504 01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:02.159 Papa John creatures in the seventies. 1505 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:04.319 Yeah, no, ask him. What if any of them the 1506 01:25:04.359 --> 01:25:07.239 two guys I mentioned there, Bowling or Sears, if they 1507 01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:11.279 toured as solo artists in the mid late in the 1508 01:25:11.359 --> 01:25:16.439 nineteen nineties, that's all the nineteen nineties three, because one 1509 01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:20.439 of these guys came there with like a bunch of 1510 01:25:20.439 --> 01:25:24.720 no name musicians and acoustic guitar and that was it. 1511 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:27.119 That was the whole show. Wasn't a big production nothing. 1512 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:29.840 It was very stripped down and it was fine. It 1513 01:25:29.880 --> 01:25:33.479 did great people came out. 1514 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:35.760 Of the seriesless with him from ninety to to two 1515 01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:37.680 thousand and one, he played keyboards. 1516 01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:41.640 Okay, that's not the guy. But one of those guys 1517 01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:44.800 toured as a solo artist. And I don't remember which one, 1518 01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.800 but it was, but literally it was advertised. 1519 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:52.439 Huh Larry Campbell, I don't it's. 1520 01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:55.399 Not bringing a bell here, but I know we advertised him. 1521 01:25:55.239 --> 01:25:58.359 Even I think it's got Tad Cassidy. 1522 01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:02.439 Well we advertised him as whatever his name was, formerly 1523 01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:05.720 a pottoona like. That was literally how we advertised it. 1524 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.079 And older people that never came to the clubs that 1525 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:14.840 I booked showed up to see it, you know, like 1526 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:17.560 people that were older than me, older than you know, 1527 01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:20.119 I'm in my twenties there other people are in their 1528 01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:22.720 early twenties, you know. Like I said, I booked a 1529 01:26:22.760 --> 01:26:26.279 lot of metal and punk artists and stuff. But you know, 1530 01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:30.640 get you get packages sent to you if you were 1531 01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:35.199 involved in management or booking or whatever, and these people 1532 01:26:35.199 --> 01:26:38.079 would literally put together like little mailers saying, hey, we're 1533 01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:40.520 going to be available, you know, six months from now, 1534 01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.520 and bookings are going to cost this much. This is 1535 01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:46.199 our trailers, you know. This kind of thing. They literally 1536 01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:50.680 would just mail stuff to you and yeah, hot tune, 1537 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.479 And I went, eh, I don't know, I don't know 1538 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:56.039 if I should consider that. And then somebody told me, well, 1539 01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:58.119 you should really mix things up, because I mean, you know, 1540 01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:00.640 you're gonna you might be able to book this guy 1541 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:04.279 on like a Monday or Tuesday and a mellow crowd, 1542 01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:06.239 you know, during a weekday when we're not going to 1543 01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:08.600 get the kids in, you know what I mean, the 1544 01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:12.000 younger people. You know, you got a night where nobody's 1545 01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:14.960 got to check IDs because everybody coming in definitely does 1546 01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.840 not look close to twenty one, you know what I mean, 1547 01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:20.159 because we had these eighteen to enter twenty one to 1548 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:22.279 drink kind of places, which are always a pain in 1549 01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:28.439 the ass. Yeah, But anyway, you'd book people who were, 1550 01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.399 you know, former members of this and that. You know, 1551 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:36.079 Clarence Clemmens when he toured by himself because of no Springsteen, right, 1552 01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:41.079 obviously he's a Jersey basis, but you know still, you 1553 01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:44.039 know the former member of this or that, Rob Halfred 1554 01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.039 was not he was you know, not in Judas Priest anymore. 1555 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.159 He was doing his own thing. And then he came 1556 01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:52.880 up with a band called Fight for a little while. 1557 01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:56.039 Now he was expensive, the former singer of Judas Priest, 1558 01:27:56.359 --> 01:28:03.239 very expensive. Motorhead cost a lot of money to bring in. Uh, 1559 01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:06.800 Guar cost a decent amount. But they were cheaper on 1560 01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:10.600 the nationally you know, hard rock metal punk kind of acts. 1561 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:15.199 They were much cheaper than others. But uh and that's 1562 01:28:15.199 --> 01:28:17.720 not even going into like the whole death metal subgenre. 1563 01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:21.600 I'm talking about mainstream. You know, you want to book 1564 01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:25.319 a hard rock act, La Guns would come in because 1565 01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:30.920 they weren't that they weren't doing that well at that point. 1566 01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:34.319 You know, Jaki Lee was was trying to do a 1567 01:28:34.359 --> 01:28:36.479 solo thing because he was no longer with Ozzie, he 1568 01:28:36.520 --> 01:28:40.279 wasn't with bad Lands, and nobody gave a crap, so 1569 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:44.920 j Lee, you know, okay, he would cost a little more, 1570 01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:48.119 but not much more than one of these other artists, 1571 01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:52.720 who's like, who is that guy again? You know what 1572 01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:55.760 I mean? And then you had more mellow places that booked, 1573 01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:58.359 you know, the old motown acts and you know, however, 1574 01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:01.960 many different things from the Spinners and the four Tops 1575 01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.880 and whatever else. But I was not in that because 1576 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:07.800 those kind of shows, if I was ever involved in those, 1577 01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:09.920 we booked them into like high school gyms that were 1578 01:29:09.960 --> 01:29:12.000 trying to you know, rent them out to make money 1579 01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.800 to you know, pay for their new scoreboard or whatever. 1580 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:17.399 And we'd take over a high school gym for a day. 1581 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:19.760 Oh yeah, you know that kind of stuff. But I 1582 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:20.920 would put like Deep Purple. 1583 01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:23.720 I saw them in Raleigh, right, I saw Deep Purple 1584 01:29:23.760 --> 01:29:27.119 in Raleigh. I think it cost me fifteen bucks. And 1585 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:32.439 this was in the early nineties. But they sounded like 1586 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:33.239 Deep Purple. 1587 01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:36.640 But you know, I couldn't tell you how many were 1588 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.680 the original band members probably won. 1589 01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:42.960 Yeah, if you were lucky, you know. And yeah, and 1590 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.239 that's the thing. You could maybe book a Deep Purple 1591 01:29:45.319 --> 01:29:48.520 and put them at the Stone Pony because they weren't 1592 01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:50.439 going to cost so much that you had to charge 1593 01:29:50.439 --> 01:29:53.760 an outlandish amount for the tickets. You know, a Stone 1594 01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.560 Pony ticket might have been ten dollars normally, but special 1595 01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:00.960 Deep Purple show maybe we charged twenty, you know, and 1596 01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:03.239 you could get away with that because hey, it's Deep 1597 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:05.359 Purple at least, you know, at least that's what you 1598 01:30:05.399 --> 01:30:09.039 think or say. In the nineties, when Twisted Sister came through, 1599 01:30:09.119 --> 01:30:12.640 because Twisted Sister was no longer big, big, big, like 1600 01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:16.840 they were, you know what I mean, or you could 1601 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:19.359 uh oh. Another fun one was to get like say, 1602 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:21.159 one of the guys from the Howard Stern Show, like 1603 01:30:21.239 --> 01:30:25.399 Fred Norris had a band. You could get that guy 1604 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.000 and he would draw crowd automatically in the New York, 1605 01:30:28.039 --> 01:30:33.439 New Jersey area. But he was actually more expensive sometimes 1606 01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:35.680 than like say a Deep Purple, who was not on 1607 01:30:35.720 --> 01:30:37.520 the high point of their careers and didn't have a 1608 01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:40.319 lot of original members. Trying to think of who hell 1609 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:42.840 that's like Blue, Well, yeah. 1610 01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.000 Cole saw them the same thing in Raleigh, you know, 1611 01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.600 and and that was in that was twenty years after 1612 01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:52.159 they had been out, and it's like, yeah, they sound 1613 01:30:52.319 --> 01:30:54.319 like them, but I think there was only one guy 1614 01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:57.199 that was in the original band at that time. He 1615 01:30:57.359 --> 01:30:59.560 is sad, but hey, at least I can say I 1616 01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:01.520 got to see on Zilla. 1617 01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:05.399 Right remember in the nineties, like bands like Quiet Riot, 1618 01:31:05.479 --> 01:31:10.119 which were absolutely monsters in the early eighties, right, and 1619 01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:13.960 they were trying to come back around. You know. Yeah, 1620 01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:15.920 you could get a ten dollar ticket to see that, 1621 01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.479 or a fifteen dollars. Like I said, maybe a typical 1622 01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:20.520 band might have been ten bucks, but because they were 1623 01:31:20.520 --> 01:31:23.479 a little bigger name, even though The only guy left 1624 01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:27.039 I think was Kevin Dubrow, you know, for the singer 1625 01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:29.399 for a long time, and he looked really weird and 1626 01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:33.800 he was always a creepy, strange guy. Anyway, it didn't 1627 01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:36.439 sound right. But you know, that guy would show up, 1628 01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:39.560 you know, and these were this was not going to 1629 01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:42.000 be a stadium tour for him. So he shows up 1630 01:31:42.039 --> 01:31:44.279 with what he calls quiet riot and boom. You know, 1631 01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.840 you got to show. But their rates would go down, 1632 01:31:47.960 --> 01:31:50.920 and two things would happen. One, they weren't as popular, 1633 01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:53.680 so their price would go down. But two, once they 1634 01:31:53.720 --> 01:31:56.840 got dropped by their management because they were no longer 1635 01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.479 with the record company and the record company wasn't dipping 1636 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.640 their hands and everything, they became a more affordable act 1637 01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:07.560 to put them into smaller places. Because again, and here's 1638 01:32:07.600 --> 01:32:11.119 the funny part, they're making more money off of a 1639 01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:16.039 show that's charging a tenth of the amount to put on. So, 1640 01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:18.439 like I said, if it was a five hundred dollars show, 1641 01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:22.359 it might cost you know, five hundred bucks to book them. 1642 01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:24.640 To guarantee you got to give them five hundred Maybe 1643 01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:25.960 you got to give them a piece of the gate 1644 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:30.840 to something like that. Okay, But that would be the 1645 01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:33.960 worst of it. If it was with the major label 1646 01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.800 record and everything else, the clubs didn't even bother because 1647 01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:41.600 it would be five ten grand minimum plus they need 1648 01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.359 a percentage of the city. You can't possibly sell enough 1649 01:32:44.520 --> 01:32:48.600 booze and tickets to make you know. I mean, unless 1650 01:32:48.640 --> 01:32:50.840 you're gonna have prostitutes in the back too, you ain't 1651 01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:55.159 gonna make enough money. I mean, it's just no good. 1652 01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:58.279 I was lucky. I just looked up the members and 1653 01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:01.319 when I saw the Oyster could have two original members, 1654 01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:04.560 so at least two out of one two the word five. 1655 01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:08.439 So hey, you know too, this that's what I've read 1656 01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:10.680 the other day as an article talking about these fans that, 1657 01:33:10.800 --> 01:33:14.680 you know, should they retire because there's no original members left? 1658 01:33:15.239 --> 01:33:18.079 You know, look at Leonard Skinner. You know, the only 1659 01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:21.680 guy that's with them is Rickey Medlock, who played with 1660 01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:25.399 them before they started producing albums and then played a 1661 01:33:25.399 --> 01:33:27.680 little bit with him a couple of times before they 1662 01:33:27.720 --> 01:33:31.359 had ever started putting out albums. And then he turns 1663 01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:34.239 back to joining at the Black Football de Bar and 1664 01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:36.960 they're playing them that well, Ricky Medlock was there, so yeah, 1665 01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.920 this is because he was in one of the originals. 1666 01:33:40.279 --> 01:33:44.000 It's still Leonard Skinner. It's like, dude, they need to 1667 01:33:44.039 --> 01:33:45.000 poller to go home. 1668 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.159 But the one guy, the one guy's the one guy's 1669 01:33:48.159 --> 01:33:49.640 brother is still right singing. 1670 01:33:51.920 --> 01:34:00.399 Yeah, Johnny Johnny Dams. The thing is, though all of 1671 01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:04.199 the original members are going now, it's not the same, 1672 01:34:04.399 --> 01:34:08.319 but they're pumping they're pumping money out of a bunch 1673 01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:08.960 of dead men. 1674 01:34:09.399 --> 01:34:09.640 You know. 1675 01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:13.039 They're saying, I hate to see it, but I wouldn't 1676 01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:15.199 spend money to don't see them. Now, well I see 1677 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:18.119 a lot of bands wo see because there's nobody left 1678 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:19.159 from the original group. 1679 01:34:19.399 --> 01:34:21.479 Now, I wouldn't want to go see it either. But 1680 01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:25.239 the thing is, it is they still have a name 1681 01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:27.960 and see that's the thing. They have an intellectual property, 1682 01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:33.920 and major label support or management companies are probably not 1683 01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:37.319 dipping into this too much, you know what I mean. 1684 01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:39.760 It's it's like they're not trying to do that unless 1685 01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:43.000 they're doing a stadium, Tom. You know, that's why you 1686 01:34:43.119 --> 01:34:46.720 have to fill a stadium. Got too, because all these 1687 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:51.000 thieves circle around the original thing, which is the name 1688 01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:56.439 and the music, right, and they become not just the majority, 1689 01:34:56.560 --> 01:35:02.680 but the ridiculous majority collectors on the money on the 1690 01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:06.760 benefits on all of it. And that's why I say, 1691 01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:08.720 when you look at this article and they're saying, oh, 1692 01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:11.880 this guy's robbing from the artists, don't jump to that conclusion. 1693 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.239 I'm telling you, I don't care what the court's found. 1694 01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:18.239 You know, the courts have found constantly in favor of 1695 01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:22.920 these thieves, shysters, and scumbags who have done nothing but 1696 01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:26.760 exploit people who wanted to create music. I'm not saying 1697 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:31.560 every rock star is a victim, but for God's sake, truthfully, 1698 01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:36.039 I mean, you know, if you're generating a million dollars bpee, 1699 01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:38.640 you know, are you willing to take home one hundred 1700 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:43.119 dollars checker. I mean, I'm just asking because that's really 1701 01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:46.479 what these guys are being told all the time. It's like, 1702 01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:50.920 be grateful, you've got you a hundred bucks and this system, 1703 01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:55.079 this pooling system, and this streaming and everything else. I 1704 01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:58.520 promise you it'll probably be thirty years from now where 1705 01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.600 people are going to talk about the great that one 1706 01:36:01.239 --> 01:36:03.279 that went on digitally, and it's not going to be 1707 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:05.159 this guy who figured out out of fully eight million 1708 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:09.000 dollars off of BS. He's not hurting the artists, the 1709 01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:12.439 system hurts the artists anyway, this guy is going to jail, 1710 01:36:13.359 --> 01:36:18.880 hurting the system because he just manufactured something, added it 1711 01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:23.399 into their system, and exploited it. It should not, if 1712 01:36:23.439 --> 01:36:27.439 done on mass, hurt the artists at all. One. Two, 1713 01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:32.520 the artists are already you know, let's just say this 1714 01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:35.239 guy's kicking them. Well, they've already been raped and beaten, 1715 01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:38.159 so you know this guy's coming by and kicking them once. 1716 01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:39.720 Is it nice? 1717 01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:40.039 No? 1718 01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:42.439 But that's the worst thing you could possibly do. And 1719 01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:44.520 I'm willing to bet that if you are, you've peeled 1720 01:36:44.560 --> 01:36:47.159 part to the mass, then I'm one hundred percent right. 1721 01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:50.039 This guy's not stealing a dime from these people. He 1722 01:36:50.199 --> 01:36:53.520 stole from the system, because in order to steal eight 1723 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:56.680 million dollars out of the system, how much do you 1724 01:36:56.720 --> 01:37:00.479 think he had to generate into the system, And then 1725 01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:03.720 by percentage that has to get distributed around. So even 1726 01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:07.079 if he took a massive percentage the other you know, 1727 01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:11.840 if he took eight million, what do you think was generated? 1728 01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:16.760 I mean, this guy who got too greedy, really, because 1729 01:37:17.199 --> 01:37:19.439 if he generates eight million, if you use the math 1730 01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:22.000 that I was trying to explain to you about the 1731 01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:26.319 ten dollars record. Then what this guy generated a billion 1732 01:37:26.359 --> 01:37:29.199 dollars of bullshit? Because that's what it comes down to. 1733 01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:33.640 I mean, you got to move your decimal points around. 1734 01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:37.199 So out of that billion, he took eight million. So 1735 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:39.439 what happened to the other ninety two million of his 1736 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:44.319 bullshit he generated? See what I'm saying, ninety two million 1737 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:46.960 dollars gets left on the table, which. 1738 01:37:46.920 --> 01:37:51.560 Is saying but I don't agree with your formulae, Okay, 1739 01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:52.680 I I mean that's. 1740 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:55.079 Feeling difference we have. I see exactly what you're saying. 1741 01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:57.039 But I don't think your formula is life. 1742 01:37:57.199 --> 01:37:59.760 That he generated he could have generated more money from 1743 01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:01.159 the other artist that he was stealing. 1744 01:38:01.279 --> 01:38:03.600 Problem well, no, I don't agree, but based on the 1745 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:05.720 percentage that he's allowed to draw out of it, you 1746 01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:08.439 can't see how that looks kind of like maybe I 1747 01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:08.880 am right? 1748 01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:11.319 Okay, No problem no, because I don't know, because I 1749 01:38:11.359 --> 01:38:13.720 don't know the breakdown. I don't know what every song 1750 01:38:13.800 --> 01:38:15.920 that's legitimate would have been pulling. 1751 01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:18.520 I don't know what the pool was there. You go 1752 01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:22.520 pull pulled eight million dollars out of the pool. Then 1753 01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:24.319 he pulled eight million dollars. 1754 01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:27.760 Out that other actual artists shouldn't have had divided up 1755 01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:28.680 among them. 1756 01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:31.600 Yeah, but that eight million, If he pulled eight million out, 1757 01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:34.640 how much did he really generate to the system because 1758 01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:38.800 he's only getting a small percentage anyway, forget that point. 1759 01:38:38.920 --> 01:38:42.159 Let me just ask you this. Here's one thing I 1760 01:38:42.199 --> 01:38:44.079 think you and I can agree on, though they're not 1761 01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:50.720 showing you the man because again, if you're pulling thirty 1762 01:38:50.760 --> 01:38:55.079 cents out of ten dollars, okay, and you stole that, okay, 1763 01:38:55.119 --> 01:39:01.159 you stole it, fine, But how much more was generated 1764 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:03.560 that he doesn't get to walk away that he couldn't 1765 01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:05.600 siphon off because it has to be in the pool. 1766 01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:08.840 If he's only allowed five percent, where did the other 1767 01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:13.000 ninety five percent go? It went to the other artists? 1768 01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:17.560 It should be theoretically anyway. But my point is they're 1769 01:39:17.600 --> 01:39:20.239 not going to show you that math because the moment 1770 01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:23.479 that somebody really understands the kind of robbery that goes 1771 01:39:23.520 --> 01:39:27.680 on in this business, I mean, you know, I don't know, 1772 01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:29.760 and maybe maybe I'm wrong about that. No, I'm going 1773 01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:35.359 to pull that back. If people understood truthfully the amount 1774 01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:39.079 of robbery that goes on and exploitation here, and they 1775 01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:43.640 had a bit of you know, ethical, you know, any 1776 01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:46.960 any sort of ethos that was, you know, relatively balanced. 1777 01:39:47.760 --> 01:39:51.199 They would know that every artist, regardless of whether they're faith, 1778 01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:55.600 real or anything, is being exploited and taken advantage of 1779 01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:58.439 by people that never have to write a note, never 1780 01:39:58.520 --> 01:40:03.239 have to perform, never do a damn thing except control 1781 01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:06.800 a certain business ask, and they do it well. And 1782 01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:09.800 they have maintained that stranglehold even though they can't make 1783 01:40:09.840 --> 01:40:14.479 money off physical products anymore, and they can't make money 1784 01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.239 off of all the merchandising because a lot of these 1785 01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:19.600 guys figured out how to take that out of their hands. 1786 01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:21.680 A lot of these guys figured out how to run 1787 01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:26.439 their own tours and all that. They have taken some losses, 1788 01:40:27.560 --> 01:40:30.560 but this stranglehold, this is BS. This guy should not 1789 01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:33.319 be going to prison. They should be having him figure 1790 01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:36.199 out how to exploit the system more and to fix 1791 01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:38.560 it so that people are not getting totally screwed over 1792 01:40:38.640 --> 01:40:42.560 and making nothing for the things they create that actually 1793 01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:47.039 did spread something outside of you know, a businessman, and 1794 01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:49.199 I think you could agree though they're not showing you 1795 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:53.239 the equation, they're not showing you the formula. They won't 1796 01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:58.279 and that's my contention is, again, if he took eight 1797 01:40:58.319 --> 01:41:02.039 million dollars away, how much did he generate in order 1798 01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:06.479 to be able to pull that eight million dollars. That's 1799 01:41:06.520 --> 01:41:09.199 the question that court case is not going to answer. Clearly, 1800 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:13.479 the corporations, nobody questioned. Nobody's gonna want to answer that 1801 01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:18.640 because I'm telling you it's it's just wrong. It's unbalanced. 1802 01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:24.000 It's a pulls. So anyway, with that in mind, though, 1803 01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:27.640 we got about thirteen minutes left, nobody else called in. 1804 01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:30.319 You and I had this long discussion about the DMCA 1805 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:35.199 and so but anything. I started off talking about baseball 1806 01:41:35.239 --> 01:41:40.079 a little bit, But I gotta tell you my beginning 1807 01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:45.199 premise for the show though, still is that, you know, 1808 01:41:45.239 --> 01:41:47.319 I'm not sure how I'm gonna pay one major bill 1809 01:41:47.319 --> 01:41:51.079 coming up this month. I'm not sure if you know 1810 01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:55.800 I have now I have someone generously doesn't want credit 1811 01:41:55.840 --> 01:41:59.359 for it, but they did pay for us to have 1812 01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:03.560 Riverside now, so I have a paid subscription to Riverside 1813 01:42:03.560 --> 01:42:08.000 to use so that we can begin video streaming. However, 1814 01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:10.840 my computer's have been outdated and I planned on getting 1815 01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:12.640 a better computer, so I need to figure out how 1816 01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:16.359 to upgrade. Get Windows eleven, get another, you know, refurbished 1817 01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:18.239 computer or something like that, and I got to pay 1818 01:42:18.279 --> 01:42:22.439 off this freaker because that thing is what distributes our 1819 01:42:22.479 --> 01:42:27.600 audio podcast. But that's it. That's the two things I 1820 01:42:27.640 --> 01:42:37.680 gotta do my birthday is what, you know, help watch 1821 01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:41.279 one to seven? Good to see it on a calendar. Okay, 1822 01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:45.920 so it's one week and one through week week and 1823 01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:48.680 five days away. Okay, it's actually further wring that drug 1824 01:42:48.920 --> 01:42:53.600 on my birthday's into seven April seven. The reason why 1825 01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:55.319 I bring it up is because that's usually when I 1826 01:42:55.359 --> 01:42:58.720 try to relaunch and refresh things. And I don't know 1827 01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:02.239 if I'm gonna make my target to relaunch and refresh things. 1828 01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:05.479 But you know, I'm hoping to do things a little differently, 1829 01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:08.680 hoping to work with be beating a different way. I'm 1830 01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:10.720 hoping to work with everybody in a different way and 1831 01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:14.199 go straight to rumble because YouTube will not allow me 1832 01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:17.359 to launch a podcast if I attempt to do it, 1833 01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:21.720 you know again with my name attached to it, they 1834 01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:27.159 will consider me evading my band, my lifetime band. So 1835 01:43:27.399 --> 01:43:29.920 I can't do that because at any moment they'll just 1836 01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:32.680 clip it and take it away again. So I'm not 1837 01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:36.039 doing that. I'm gonna go to Rumble where I don't 1838 01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:40.159 have any issue, So we're gonna basically just launch the 1839 01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:42.640 Rumble channel. And I don't know, if you know, I 1840 01:43:42.640 --> 01:43:44.479 don't know if I'm gonna bring Aaron along with that 1841 01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:47.560 or not. I'm thinking I am, but I don't know. 1842 01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:50.079 Maybe people have lost interest in me working with the Aron. 1843 01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:52.560 Maybe Aaron's lost interest in working with me. I don't know, 1844 01:43:54.239 --> 01:43:58.560 open questions. I've enjoyed producing and I've had the most 1845 01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:01.520 you know, pleasant relationship with with Aaron and Uncle over 1846 01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:05.840 the years, all things considered, for sure. Uh, he's been 1847 01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:10.880 absolutely supportive, unlike others have seemed to have, you know, 1848 01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:14.479 make the helpdowns and turned against making some screened reasons 1849 01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:25.720 yourselves too, and people haven't try to help and been 1850 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:28.279 appreciate it, and so on and so forth and whatever. 1851 01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:31.039 I've used a lot of other shows, I've produced a 1852 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:33.760 lot of shows in my own, and I don't know. 1853 01:44:34.359 --> 01:44:39.199 Is it that I'm no longer necessary communication? I'm not sure, 1854 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:40.880 but I'd like to try to find out why are 1855 01:44:40.880 --> 01:44:41.520 you watching them? 1856 01:44:42.079 --> 01:44:45.239 I'm not hearing you at all. Of course, I'm static, 1857 01:44:45.319 --> 01:44:48.119 God bad, And now I've propped he. 1858 01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:52.800 Well, that sucks because I know I'm going out live 1859 01:44:52.840 --> 01:44:56.520 and loud on the screen, and uh, this is just 1860 01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.479 a communication issue between you and me. But again I 1861 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:06.680 think I my computer update. Okay, and can you hear 1862 01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:12.359 me now? Now I can? Okay, good. I was just 1863 01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:14.279 explaining that, you know, I got a lot of things 1864 01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:16.600 to consider, and I got a couple of struggles in 1865 01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:19.439 April being, you know, the month of my birthdays. Usually 1866 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:22.239 when I try and like, you know, refresh, reload everything. 1867 01:45:23.279 --> 01:45:26.079 I don't know if you caught all that, but you know, 1868 01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:28.039 I'm not feeling super great, but I want to try 1869 01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:30.800 and do this for one more year before I consider 1870 01:45:30.880 --> 01:45:34.800 just giving up. And by the way, Aaron Franz is 1871 01:45:34.800 --> 01:45:37.079 coming up next with the Age of Transitions. I'll be 1872 01:45:37.119 --> 01:45:39.560 more than happy to produce that if the computer gods 1873 01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:43.199 allow it, if the Internet allows it. Okay, and uncle 1874 01:45:43.279 --> 01:45:46.680 the broadcast at eleven pm Eastern. So I'm gonna do 1875 01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:49.119 those two things tonight. They have been away for weeks 1876 01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:53.239 for various reasons. Not my fault, but you know, I 1877 01:45:53.279 --> 01:45:57.479 don't know, maybe everybody's losing interest in everything. And we 1878 01:45:57.520 --> 01:46:00.920 didn't even discuss the war in Iran, nothing like that. 1879 01:46:01.039 --> 01:46:03.359 I had a whole set of news things that I 1880 01:46:03.399 --> 01:46:06.479 wanted to get to earlier this week, but I was 1881 01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:11.159 going through traumatic brain injury evaluations, so you know, between 1882 01:46:11.159 --> 01:46:13.199 that and some physical therapy and trying to get to 1883 01:46:13.239 --> 01:46:16.359 walk and stand again, I kind of didn't make enough 1884 01:46:16.399 --> 01:46:18.680 time to properly do a show. And I won't give 1885 01:46:18.720 --> 01:46:22.880 you garbage, so you know. But then again, maybe my 1886 01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:26.840 trash is not anyone else's treasure and my treasures or 1887 01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:29.960 just basically not even worthy of everybody's trash. I don't know. 1888 01:46:30.760 --> 01:46:34.359 I just don't know anymore. But like I say, I 1889 01:46:34.359 --> 01:46:37.840 want to launch the Rumble Channel in April, sometime right 1890 01:46:37.880 --> 01:46:41.079 around or after my birthday. We have part of it 1891 01:46:41.239 --> 01:46:44.039 set and paid for, but I still got some bills 1892 01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:45.880 I gotta take care of, so I don't even know 1893 01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:48.920 if I'm gonna make it there, but I'm going to 1894 01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:51.760 do my best to do something with this. Maybe we 1895 01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:54.119 don't need to do an audio podcast anymore on its 1896 01:46:54.159 --> 01:46:56.279 own and distribute it like I have over the years. 1897 01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:59.319 I mean, maybe that's got to stop, you know, because 1898 01:46:59.439 --> 01:47:01.680 I gotta cut expenses so I can put it into 1899 01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:04.119 the video and then all I need is a good 1900 01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:07.319 Android phone, right, because that's what they tell you anymore. 1901 01:47:07.359 --> 01:47:10.720 You know, all you need is a phone. But anyway, 1902 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:15.600 I don't carry a phone. I guess I'm stupid anyhow, 1903 01:47:15.640 --> 01:47:17.960 be Pete, Why don't you just go ahead and talk 1904 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:20.319 for the last eight minutes. Tell me what's on your mind, 1905 01:47:20.359 --> 01:47:22.399 anything you want to close out with, how you feel 1906 01:47:22.439 --> 01:47:25.319 about the world, if you can hear me, and uh, 1907 01:47:25.359 --> 01:47:27.560 we'll just close this one out and go on to 1908 01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:30.199 Aaron Franz right at ten pm Eastern here on Newchelli 1909 01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:31.000 dot Com Radio. 1910 01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:36.520 No. I was just I don't eve want to talk 1911 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:38.079 about the war. I'm tired of the war. I'm tired 1912 01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:41.000 of everybody bitching about it and the ridiculous ops that 1913 01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:42.880 are going on out there trying to convince people of 1914 01:47:42.920 --> 01:47:47.439 the one thing or another. I'm tired with glitter. It's 1915 01:47:47.479 --> 01:47:50.800 gotten ridiculous. You can't even have a decent conversation with 1916 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:53.159 some people about anything without being called a pedo or 1917 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:57.039 a kike or a jew. It's ridiculous. But I did 1918 01:47:57.399 --> 01:48:01.880 notice a couple stories one believe it or not. In 1919 01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:08.359 Europe they're having a bigger problem with cigarettes illegal more 1920 01:48:08.399 --> 01:48:12.880 than drugs. In fact, they developed Cartel's story. I read 1921 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:17.960 today that the illegal European illegal cigarette trade. Nearly half 1922 01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:22.760 of the cigarettes sold in Belgium, France, the UK and 1923 01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:28.520 Ireland are either smuggled from stolen sources or counterfeit, and 1924 01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:31.439 they're looking at a forty three point seven billion dollar 1925 01:48:31.600 --> 01:48:38.560 business in illegal smokes. I thought that was amazing, you know, 1926 01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:40.319 a bigger problem than drugs. 1927 01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:44.279 Well, people, I yes, well, you know, BP people that 1928 01:48:44.359 --> 01:48:48.319 think I'm stupid might have forgotten that. I actually told 1929 01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:51.920 people this was the case about two years ago, because 1930 01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:55.399 that's how long this business has really exploded over the 1931 01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:59.439 past probably three years easily, But about two years ago 1932 01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:02.880 I was aware of the fact that organized crime had 1933 01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:07.479 moved into things like cigarettes in Europe. And I talked 1934 01:49:07.479 --> 01:49:09.520 about it on this show. And you know what, I 1935 01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:13.039 was called an idiot and a moron because ventanyl fentanyl fentanyl, 1936 01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:16.439 And I tried to explain, you know, ventanyl is just 1937 01:49:16.439 --> 01:49:19.760 a political thing more than anything else. I know, it's 1938 01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:24.279 killing people, but always things do, and believe it or not, 1939 01:49:24.359 --> 01:49:26.359 there's a lot more money in the cigarette trade than 1940 01:49:26.359 --> 01:49:28.640 there is in the fentanyl trade in Europe. And people 1941 01:49:28.840 --> 01:49:32.600 thought I was retarded, So you know, just. 1942 01:49:32.560 --> 01:49:35.000 Say one of the others, yeah, and one of the 1943 01:49:35.039 --> 01:49:38.680 other stories. UK has reopened their investigation into Andrew Tate 1944 01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:43.880 on his rape and sexual assault charges, and I heard 1945 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:47.560 the wolves at Romania where he was. They've reopened an 1946 01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:51.079 investigation as well, so he might be feeling some heat 1947 01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:53.319 pretty soon. Of course, you know he's been partying over 1948 01:49:53.399 --> 01:49:59.119 in Dubai and places of that nature. On the third one, 1949 01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:06.600 Canada is advancing a plan to criminalize quoting the Bible 1950 01:50:07.800 --> 01:50:13.239 of all things. They're calling it hate speech. And another 1951 01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:19.279 example was Finland actually prosecuted a guy, a member of 1952 01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:27.000 parliament for a two thousand and four pamphlet supporting classic Christianity. 1953 01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:32.479 And when we see this crap happen in UK and Canada, 1954 01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:36.600 it ain't long before we start seeing it here. One 1955 01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:42.119 of the oldest books published in the world is now 1956 01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:45.119 going to be considered a hate crime in certain places. 1957 01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:48.840 If you quote it. You find that utterly amazing, I'm 1958 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:49.359 sure you do. 1959 01:50:49.520 --> 01:50:51.680 Will you do me a favor, though, see if you 1960 01:50:51.720 --> 01:50:56.680 can find the actual legitimately printed piece of legislature out 1961 01:50:56.720 --> 01:51:00.039 of Canada, Because every time somebody floats one of the 1962 01:51:00.159 --> 01:51:07.359 hate speech stories out of Canada, they're usually misrepresenting what's 1963 01:51:07.399 --> 01:51:11.439 in the thing. And it's a propaganda piece. Yeah, no, 1964 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.359 you don't need a second I want I want the 1965 01:51:14.479 --> 01:51:16.920 actual legislation. I want the time to read it, and 1966 01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:19.720 I don't have it in three minutes here. It'll take 1967 01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:21.439 me longer to read it. I would just like to 1968 01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:25.359 read it, that's all, because, oh my god, I am 1969 01:51:25.399 --> 01:51:28.840 so sick. It is every six months there is a 1970 01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:31.560 new look at the liberal scum in Canada who are 1971 01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:36.760 legalizing pedophilia or whatever. And you know, when you actually 1972 01:51:36.760 --> 01:51:38.840 look into what it is they're pointing at, that's not 1973 01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:43.960 what it says. It's just I don't know. I don't 1974 01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:45.960 know what to do with that, except that you know, 1975 01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:48.800 people are going to keep doing that. So please send 1976 01:51:48.840 --> 01:51:51.000 it to me, because I mean, they've only out of 1977 01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:55.640 the past five of these panics, these moral panics about Canada, 1978 01:51:55.720 --> 01:51:59.119 one has had any valid point to it. One out 1979 01:51:59.119 --> 01:52:01.479 of five. So I'd like to see this. It may 1980 01:52:01.520 --> 01:52:06.079 be true, and you know, who knows. I'd like but 1981 01:52:06.399 --> 01:52:09.600 I would really, really really like to see the legislation, 1982 01:52:10.199 --> 01:52:14.439 not some excerpt on somebody's jackass website, but actually the 1983 01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:18.119 official document, if we could, in a PDF, because every 1984 01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:21.720 time I do that, it's a misrepresentation of what's in 1985 01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:24.960 the damned legislation in Canada, which is really weird. And 1986 01:52:25.039 --> 01:52:27.800 I'm not even a fan of the Canadian government at all. 1987 01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:32.640 You know, the parliamentary system under the Queen still up there, 1988 01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:35.119 or excuse me, under the Office of the King, which 1989 01:52:35.159 --> 01:52:38.000 is now held by Charles Yes, indeed it is, I forget, 1990 01:52:38.359 --> 01:52:40.319 but for many years it was the Office of the 1991 01:52:40.359 --> 01:52:43.920 King held by the Queen. In England still. 1992 01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:47.840 Forty fifth Parliament, forty fifth Parliament, first Session, Monday May 1993 01:52:47.960 --> 01:52:51.680 twenty six, twenty five CE Dash nine and Act to 1994 01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:55.960 amend the Criminal Code, Hate Propaganda, hate Crime and Access 1995 01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:03.239 to Religious or Cultural Places. Cool first, please? Yeah, just 1996 01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:07.520 send it to It's now in the Senate, Okay. 1997 01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:10.560 So I want to read what it says. So if you, 1998 01:53:10.680 --> 01:53:13.000 if you have a PDF of the document, please email 1999 01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:14.479 it to me so I can read it. That's all 2000 01:53:14.479 --> 01:53:18.359 I'm asking. I just want to see it, because, like 2001 01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:20.720 I said, a lot of time, I just this is 2002 01:53:20.720 --> 01:53:22.640 why I laughed when you said it, because it's like, oh, 2003 01:53:22.640 --> 01:53:25.960 here we go again with this. Canada is a liberal cesspool, 2004 01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:28.520 blah blah blah. And then you go check on what 2005 01:53:28.560 --> 01:53:31.800 it is they're saying, and it's It's like the time 2006 01:53:31.840 --> 01:53:35.359 they said Sharia law was being implemented in Flint, Michigan. 2007 01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:39.760 It didn't happen, but the people insist upon it. To 2008 01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:43.159 this day it's happening, and it's like, but it's not there. 2009 01:53:44.760 --> 01:53:48.760 And also the other jack assery about that which really 2010 01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:51.439 makes me crack up. We passed the law that says 2011 01:53:51.439 --> 01:53:57.000 you can't have Sharia law here. Yeah, here's the thing. 2012 01:53:57.119 --> 01:54:01.359 If Sharia law were implemented, your law would all be nullified. 2013 01:54:01.359 --> 01:54:05.880 To begin with, you have made a virtue signal on paper. 2014 01:54:06.199 --> 01:54:09.760 That's it. Because in your scenario where Sharia law is 2015 01:54:09.840 --> 01:54:18.479 instituted officially, you can't you can't protect it by saying 2016 01:54:18.520 --> 01:54:22.159 we won't have Sharia Lawyer, you know, we have laws 2017 01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:25.079 that say you should not murder. It doesn't prevent murder, 2018 01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:31.479 get it. It's just you know, your law doesn't stop 2019 01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:35.439 things from happening. One two. To put a law in 2020 01:54:35.439 --> 01:54:38.359 to say that you can't change the legal system. Your 2021 01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:40.960 legal system is thrown out if you bring in Scheria law. 2022 01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:45.800 It doesn't resemble the American system a joke as it is. 2023 01:54:46.920 --> 01:54:50.119 It doesn't resemble the pay to play American system at all. 2024 01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:55.840 So by necessity, to instituted officials. Yeah, go ahead. 2025 01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:57.920 People said it would not take place in the UK, 2026 01:54:58.079 --> 01:55:00.520 but they've already got sharia courts working in in the UK, 2027 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:04.840 so you know, it's just a matter of time. It's 2028 01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:05.760 gonna end up. 2029 01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:09.279 Okay, but I can make a star chamber. Okay, but 2030 01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:11.640 I can make a star chamber here. My point is 2031 01:55:11.680 --> 01:55:16.359 that it's a useless gesture. You know, the the UK 2032 01:55:16.479 --> 01:55:21.000 government should not be endorsing that it's not legal. So 2033 01:55:21.319 --> 01:55:24.560 you're talking about an extra legal activity, not but to 2034 01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:28.079 literally create a law that says you can't institutionary law 2035 01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:31.159 is done. That's like saying I have created a law 2036 01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:34.560 that says you cannot overthrow the government. Well, if you 2037 01:55:34.600 --> 01:55:38.319 overthrow the government, your law doesn't matter. Nobody's gonna you 2038 01:55:38.319 --> 01:55:42.439 know what I'm saying, because we can reset that. So 2039 01:55:42.720 --> 01:55:45.079 I don't know. It's like people can't think this way. 2040 01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:51.039 They don't understand. All right, Anyways, Please do send me 2041 01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:53.600 that piece of legislature, and and if I have to 2042 01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:56.159 go get a copy of it myself, at least send 2043 01:55:56.199 --> 01:56:00.199 me the exact reference. I'll go get one. But I'd 2044 01:56:00.279 --> 01:56:03.279 rather have the PDF to read so I can see 2045 01:56:03.279 --> 01:56:08.359 what it says. See what they're pointing to, because you 2046 01:56:08.399 --> 01:56:10.319 know you were supposed to be able to marry your 2047 01:56:10.359 --> 01:56:13.399 dogs by now up there and everything else, and rape 2048 01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:13.880 was legal. 2049 01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:17.319 Well yeah, people laugh though. People laughed though when they 2050 01:56:17.399 --> 01:56:20.199 said the euthanasia was being implemented in Canada, and come 2051 01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:22.760 to find out, to date, more people have died from 2052 01:56:23.079 --> 01:56:29.600 government instituted euthanasia than other means. So you know, i'most 2053 01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:32.479 send you this link that includes all three readings, the 2054 01:56:32.640 --> 01:56:36.600 two readings in the House of Commons and the third 2055 01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:42.000 reading in the Senate. But basically it says everyone commits 2056 01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:46.119 an offense who willfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group 2057 01:56:46.520 --> 01:56:48.960 by displaying in any public place a symbol that is 2058 01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:52.359 primarily used for principally associated with listed entity as to 2059 01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:56.600 find in subsections and blah blah blah, the Nazi swastika, 2060 01:56:57.399 --> 01:57:03.199 the Nazi double sigrun, the ss bolts a symbol, blah 2061 01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:06.640 blah blah of everyone who commits an offense. Well, I 2062 01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:07.560 mean it's here, you. 2063 01:57:07.439 --> 01:57:10.159 Can't read it. I want to read it. I want 2064 01:57:10.159 --> 01:57:13.039 to see how it's being instituted, because, like I say 2065 01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:15.960 again every time, it's some sort of weird thing where 2066 01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:20.279 they're making something up. You're trying to pat So I 2067 01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:23.640 got to produce another show. I got to produce another show, 2068 01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:26.520 so or over time, and I want to get over 2069 01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:29.720 to Aaron. Uh but please send me this stuff so 2070 01:57:29.800 --> 01:57:31.760 I can read it for myself and we can discuss 2071 01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:34.840 it next week or whatever you want. But uh, yeah, 2072 01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:37.239 I want to get get done with this because what 2073 01:57:37.279 --> 01:57:39.319 you read to me right now, I don't know what 2074 01:57:39.319 --> 01:57:42.239 you're reading from. I want to read it myself because 2075 01:57:42.279 --> 01:57:45.319 every time I do, with the exception of one time 2076 01:57:45.319 --> 01:57:49.479 out of five, it's a panic over a misunderstanding and 2077 01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:52.800 somebody hyping up something that was either considered and thrown 2078 01:57:52.880 --> 01:57:55.079 out or whatever. It's not part of the law and 2079 01:57:55.079 --> 01:57:59.840 it's just weird anyways. Whatever it is, it is beating 2080 01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:06.760 her be upset. Yeah, the fascist Islamo fascists are coming. 2081 01:58:07.079 --> 01:58:12.159 We're back to that. Okay, fine, whatever, but you know again, 2082 01:58:12.439 --> 01:58:15.119 it is what it is. I hope everybody's doing well. 2083 01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:19.000 I hope nobody's nervous. I hope nobody's upset. I hope 2084 01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:22.159 everybody's ready to do their thing for themselves and improve 2085 01:58:22.199 --> 01:58:25.680 their own lives more than anything, and hopefully we'll see 2086 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:28.199 better prices at McDonald's in April. That's all I got 2087 01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:30.399 to say. What's your final note for the week so 2088 01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:32.159 I can get to Aaron before it's too late. 2089 01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:36.199 No final note. I'm getting ready to send this to 2090 01:58:36.239 --> 01:58:37.359 you and we'll discuss it. 2091 01:58:37.840 --> 01:58:40.399 Cool. Cool, Well, look, I hope you do better with 2092 01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:45.439 the pollen. And that's that, so Amocelli. You guys, well, 2093 01:58:45.479 --> 01:58:47.279 I don't know if you guys are the effect anymore. 2094 01:58:47.279 --> 01:58:50.800 I don't know whatever. Maybe I'm just affected, maybe I'm 2095 01:58:50.840 --> 01:58:54.199 just stupid. You know, what is an insane man in 2096 01:58:54.239 --> 01:58:57.479 the world of sanity, or how about a sane man 2097 01:58:57.560 --> 01:59:01.239 in the insane world? What is that man attempting to 2098 01:59:01.760 --> 01:59:05.680 discuss things that other people can't see? Anyway, it is 2099 01:59:05.720 --> 01:59:08.119 what it is, It was what it was, and up 2100 01:59:08.199 --> 01:59:10.800 next is the Age of Transitions with Aaron Frantz. I 2101 01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:13.159 want to thank my co host p Pete for talking 2102 01:59:13.199 --> 01:59:15.840 with me for the majority of the time about music 2103 01:59:15.880 --> 01:59:19.800 this week, but we did discuss other things and you know, 2104 01:59:20.039 --> 01:59:24.960 hopefully you got something out of this anyway,