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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Y on the Ball
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Speaker 2: with me today is my usual Friday gainst jaycin Zez
Speaker 2: And he's wearing red and blue and a little blue,
Speaker 2: A little blue, a little blue. Game of inches, baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, it's just too bad. Guy hits
Speaker 3: a ball, you know around so, you know, with two
Speaker 3: strikes on him and he's just protecting the plate and
Speaker 3: then it hits on the line and then I'll help
Speaker 3: breaks leaf.
Speaker 4: So that was just too bad for the Cats.
Speaker 3: But that's baseball, right, you know, I'm sure there's gonna
Speaker 3: be a lot of second guessing about, you know, when
Speaker 3: you bring in Tony Pluta, you know, how long you
Speaker 3: live together your pinch hitters and all that kind of
Speaker 3: stuf up. You know what, this is baseball, and and
Speaker 3: things happen. You make moves, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.
Speaker 4: Uh uh.
Speaker 3: You know, Arizona could have won that game as well
Speaker 3: as they lost it in Coastal Carolina.
Speaker 4: We'll be talking to itself. Sure, yeah, no, no question
Speaker 4: in with us today?
Speaker 2: Is Ray manning the board talking every now and again
Speaker 2: when he gets the sign to talk.
Speaker 4: What's the sign? Ray, I don't know what the sign is.
Speaker 4: He gives me the I got something. Oh, he gives
Speaker 4: you the sign? Got it? Okay? I thought it was
Speaker 4: the other way around. I mean between two rivals here,
Speaker 4: got the Giants jersey.
Speaker 3: You know, I left my house the second the game,
Speaker 3: you know, like the game ender, I turned off to
Speaker 3: the ship.
Speaker 4: I would have put in the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: I forgot he was a Giants fan, and so I'm
Speaker 3: a little upset that he's in here in Giants gear
Speaker 3: and I've got I got no Dodger, no Dodger gear on.
Speaker 2: What's the Steelers wheel song? Jokers to my left? It's
Speaker 2: craziness to my right? What's that one?
Speaker 4: Jokers to the left? Something to the right way. I
Speaker 4: don't remember the Steve Miller band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh, you know, big series coming up. But
Speaker 3: you know, the Dodgers took two out of just took
Speaker 3: two out of three from the Padres, and now they go,
Speaker 3: they go, what they've got San Francisco. They're at in
Speaker 3: Dodger Stadium. So that's uh, you know, that's how I'll be.
Speaker 3: I'll be going home to watch that baby tonight my wife.
Speaker 3: My wife's out of town, so I'll be glued to
Speaker 3: the all three games.
Speaker 2: Economy of Arizona Tucson just got bigger question.
Speaker 4: The question is do I go?
Speaker 3: Do I go Lucky Wishbone, Popeyes or churches tonight or
Speaker 3: the e r from the thing is the US Open
Speaker 3: is going on too, and so there's all these things,
Speaker 3: the College World Series, all these.
Speaker 4: Things going on. Yeah, it's Father's Yeah.
Speaker 3: My father to Day, the least celebrated holiday of all
Speaker 3: Father's Day. I saw funny, Okay, I said, you just
Speaker 3: see a funny video of a comedian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've seen. I've said that to the we're
Speaker 4: sitting the number twenty.
Speaker 3: Number twenty six, number twenty six out of twenty six.
Speaker 4: He said, Arbor days even ahead of and I don't
Speaker 4: even know what I know what it is. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: saw that. Yeah, yeah, I forgot. If I get it tied,
Speaker 4: that'd be a good thing.
Speaker 3: I'm cooking on Father's Day because my wife's not home
Speaker 3: for who you right, father?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Anyways, but it's you know, hey, it's a it's a
Speaker 3: good it's a you know, it's.
Speaker 4: Good to be a day just with this, just call
Speaker 4: it father what about me day? Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 3: But you know what the funny thing is, though, if
Speaker 3: I get to just sit home and sit in front
Speaker 3: of the TV and watch and watch the US Open
Speaker 3: and then the Dodger game all day, I'm that's that's
Speaker 3: a good day.
Speaker 4: That's a good It's a radio station.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it was on our station or
Speaker 2: not said what would you pay a few thousand dollars
Speaker 2: for on a normal day? I can just kind of
Speaker 2: off the top of my man, what would you pay for
Speaker 2: for a decent amount of money? I'll just say twenty
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars uh, to get for father to day?
Speaker 2: For no, for any any day? What would you what
Speaker 2: would you pay for? I'm good, I guess I don't understand.
Speaker 4: It was a question the people call in and try
Speaker 4: to get if.
Speaker 3: You would pay, ex I'd pay twelve hundred dollars to
Speaker 3: go to Game one of a World Series, which I
Speaker 3: did last.
Speaker 5: Year, right right, I'd the fund a trip to themha,
Speaker 5: probably if I got you know what.
Speaker 2: The answer was the most piece and quiet funny, not
Speaker 2: to be bothered because we live in this world of craziness.
Speaker 3: Just to be not yeah, to not have to listen
Speaker 3: to any of it. That's a good one.
Speaker 4: No one got it, because who would.
Speaker 3: Think that that's a good one. I mean, that's definitely
Speaker 3: a good one. I would love to not have to
Speaker 3: listen to any of that crap for one day because
Speaker 3: you can't get away from it.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah. And it's all our own fault too.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're on the phone stupidly for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: I'm on my phone all the time.
Speaker 3: I spend I spend an hour or two, you know,
Speaker 3: going flipping TikTok, and when I see something political come up,
Speaker 3: I flip through it really fast to try and try
Speaker 3: and let them know I don't want this crap on
Speaker 3: my feet. Give me, you know, give me baseball highlights,
Speaker 3: give me you know, sports stuff, give me music and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. And you know, as soon as I
Speaker 3: see whether it's you know, no matter what, if it's
Speaker 3: political at all, I flip it real fast because I
Speaker 3: want the thing to know.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see that you're going to be
Speaker 4: flipping for a while. I know it's bad flipping for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 2: Today a good week of shows, and we've got Friday show,
Speaker 2: another good week. We have Javio and Morales. We'll return
Speaker 2: this week and he's in Omaha. He covered the game,
Speaker 2: so I think they'll be done by by three in
Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes or whatever it is with their press
Speaker 2: conferences and things. Is that the game went in three hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it went long. It went long.
Speaker 2: So we'll have him, and then we'll have Greg Hanson,
Speaker 2: who has been through many of these type of things
Speaker 2: over his career, so we'll talk more about that.
Speaker 3: Greg had some interesting comments about the Big Twelve and
Speaker 3: is uh not I think I think it was last
Speaker 3: week's Notes column talking about how.
Speaker 4: Overall the Big Twelve is kind of EH in all
Speaker 4: sports as a whole, I would agree.
Speaker 3: Which, you know, when you put the way you put,
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're right, I said, But then I said
Speaker 3: him a thing I said with a note saying except
Speaker 3: all was the most fun we ever had, no question
Speaker 3: when we talk about it's football, it's and then all that,
Speaker 3: you know, it just kind of doesn't win and not
Speaker 3: to a lot of national champions. Track and field seems
Speaker 3: to be you know, the biggest most successful sport for
Speaker 3: the conference. You know, when you think about you know,
Speaker 3: the Pac twelve, you know baseball and softball and and
Speaker 3: and and football and all those things. He's probably pretty right,
Speaker 3: there's no question. But if all you pay attention to
Speaker 3: is football and basketball, it's still a fun coutt.
Speaker 4: It's better than where we were.
Speaker 3: Right football, I'm not so sure, but certainly basketball and
Speaker 3: it's gonna want it's gonna be a step brother to SEC.
Speaker 2: It's just it is what it is, right until they
Speaker 2: kind of put everything together and say.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, you know, you know, I was thinking
Speaker 4: about that last week.
Speaker 3: You know, here's what I wish, not wish, but I mean,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind if just if the SEC and the
Speaker 3: Big ten just going going the wrong. Go have your go,
Speaker 3: have your league play each other, do your little things,
Speaker 3: you know, and just play each other and get the
Speaker 3: hell out of here. And if you want to call
Speaker 3: yourselves national championships, not.
Speaker 4: You, that would not yourself. For the rest of us,
Speaker 4: I don't care about them. So what you do, you're
Speaker 4: the champion.
Speaker 3: Everybody else play each other. I'd love you, know, I'd
Speaker 3: love you. But see the thing about it, is though
Speaker 3: that USC and U C, l A and Oregon and
Speaker 3: Washington are all in the Big ten.
Speaker 4: I'd want them back. If you had something to wish for,
Speaker 4: I want them back.
Speaker 3: Give us them back, and then you guys gonna make
Speaker 3: your own league of everybody else.
Speaker 2: Christy Brinkley, if you're there, we granting wishes today.
Speaker 3: But I'm sick of those guys. I'm sick of those guys.
Speaker 3: We are undeniably the best. We're going to do whatever
Speaker 3: we want, and screw the hell they're leadings without those guys. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I get that. I get that their leaders. I'm sure
Speaker 3: there are people within the system. There are two people
Speaker 3: over there I want to smack really hard, the commissioners,
Speaker 3: Greg Burned and and Greg Sanky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'd like to slap the hell out of you,
Speaker 2: Like I said, even in their own SEC quadrants. There's
Speaker 2: people at like the boxes. Yeah, get us out and
Speaker 2: let us play.
Speaker 3: I'd love to slap the hell out of both of
Speaker 3: those guys. Greg burn right now, if you're listening, I
Speaker 3: want you in here. I want to smack you in
Speaker 3: the face. I got we can call.
Speaker 2: You know next Friday, if we can, we will because
Speaker 2: I've asked. I've seen him a few places, get shorstee whatever.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, we'll say, you know, Greg, I have
Speaker 2: something to talk about. You know, he'll gladly talk about it,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know you don't have a spin
Speaker 2: to it, of course, would.
Speaker 4: He is the spinner? Ye yes, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: No, okay, but I get what you're saying. But it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't be no, because you wouldn't
Speaker 2: be the champ. Well, you are the champ of this,
Speaker 2: but what about the big boys.
Speaker 3: You can't compete with the big boys. I don't mind
Speaker 3: competing against them. They don't want to compete against us.
Speaker 3: They don't want to play. They don't want to play us.
Speaker 4: Well, they want, they want.
Speaker 3: I love playing those guys because it's a chance to
Speaker 3: tell them to shut the hell. Attita is a perfect example. Ryeah,
Speaker 3: we are, we are, we are, and then they didn't
Speaker 3: do right. There's three pack tip Pac twelve teams in
Speaker 3: the in the in the in the conference series.
Speaker 4: That's my point, Steve. They they think that we're beneath them,
Speaker 4: and they don't. They shouldn't have to deal with that,
Speaker 4: that's no doubt. But that's the part.
Speaker 3: So if if you think that, go have your own
Speaker 3: league and call yourself national champions. But we will say,
Speaker 3: I don't know, you're not. I don't think the Big
Speaker 3: twelve is like that. No, but SEC is like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Big ten isn't so much like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the SEC and okay, SEC, you know what,
Speaker 3: take your sixteen teams, have your own little league, have
Speaker 3: your own NFL, and if you want to call yourself
Speaker 3: and give us the Big ten, we'll play the Big ten.
Speaker 4: What's that song you kids play? They're not like us?
Speaker 4: What's that? Who sayds?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not like us. It's Kendrick Yeah, Kendrick Lamar. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sick of their their crap. I'm really I know,
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it, especially in football basketball.
Speaker 2: You know they have this little great year. Okay, I
Speaker 2: have you a great year, but you still.
Speaker 5: You know well, I mean I remember a couple of
Speaker 5: weeks ago I saw I think on the boards his name,
Speaker 5: the Alabama head Cooks yeah, and he was like, well,
Speaker 5: we should have got a shot to get in. And
Speaker 5: it's like, well, dude, you were nine and three and
Speaker 5: you lost to a six and six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got you what you do?
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, just because we're Alabama.
Speaker 3: We're better than you for no other reason. No, no,
Speaker 3: you had you shot you blew it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, move on exactly. Okay, so again have you I
Speaker 4: just have to say hello, Hello, Jay?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 4: Don't say hello?
Speaker 3: It said I'm on the show once a week and
Speaker 3: I get all this pent up stuff by Friday, and
Speaker 3: it's all it's I'm just like I'm a I'm a
Speaker 3: ticking time bomb.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 4: Gabrielle, You're going to heaven a lot of times. She's
Speaker 4: been gone since Monday.
Speaker 3: Well, got your pent up. She's been gone since Monday.
Speaker 3: I've been cooking for myself. The dishes are the sink
Speaker 3: is full of dishes.
Speaker 4: You know I've got I've got to take it out
Speaker 4: on the SEC. There's three cats at my house who
Speaker 4: don't talk to me. I needed a guess today. That's
Speaker 4: why you're here.
Speaker 2: It's tough man. Yeah, Well we'll see what happens. We
Speaker 2: had Tommy Lloyd yesterday. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 2: any of that. We haven't written anything. No one's really
Speaker 2: written much about it. Uh just you know, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was thirty minutes of Tommy Lloyd.
Speaker 4: You know, he got on me a couple of times.
Speaker 4: What did you do?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 4: Where?
Speaker 2: Well, your son Adam was kind of the moderator, right,
Speaker 2: and we wanted he wanted to kind of end it
Speaker 2: with about twenty two minutes. And I asked one of
Speaker 2: like last question and asked him about something I can't
Speaker 2: remember what it was. And he says, no, I'll say.
Speaker 2: He says, well, you're buying lunch, you know, just flipping
Speaker 2: you buy lunch. Yeah, I'll bring in snork noggs. And
Speaker 2: I gave him like, I don't want that I want
Speaker 2: and he looked at me, you don't like snorre dogs.
Speaker 2: I said not really. He said, you don't like snor
Speaker 2: any kind of went back and I said, could you
Speaker 2: answer the question? He said, hold on, I'm kind of
Speaker 2: thinking just through. Yeah, I'm thinking I don't need hot dogs.
Speaker 2: I just don't like him. And so that was that,
Speaker 2: and then I asked him a question I guess he
Speaker 2: liked or didn't like, kind of about Caleb.
Speaker 4: Right. I don't see very many, if any mock drafts
Speaker 4: anywhere saying that he's gonna be in the NBA or
Speaker 4: get drafted.
Speaker 2: He took kind of offense to my question. I don't
Speaker 2: think I praised it incorrectly, but he who you talking to?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking he says, well, the people I'm talking to
Speaker 2: say is, well, you probably know more people than me.
Speaker 2: But he says he's going to be in the NBA. Okay,
Speaker 2: about three four minutes later he kind of he's gonna
Speaker 2: get a chance to be in the NBA. There's a difference.
Speaker 2: There is a difference.
Speaker 4: He'll get a chance.
Speaker 3: He'll get I have no doubt about that. He'll get
Speaker 3: a chance, no doubt about that. He'll get He'll sign
Speaker 3: a free agent, he'll go somewhere. He'll be on the court,
Speaker 3: no question. The question does he make g J McConnell
Speaker 3: went that went that route right, and look what he's doing.
Speaker 4: Two different players. The point being I get draft.
Speaker 3: I get you give me a one off. I know,
Speaker 3: I know, I know he is, but you know he
Speaker 3: didn't get drafted. He will have the opportunity. And when
Speaker 3: you're Caleb Love, that's all you can ask and give
Speaker 3: me a chance to get on the court.
Speaker 2: He brought up his player at Zaga, the guard at Indiana. Uh,
Speaker 2: tell me pretty good, guard. He's playing very well right now,
Speaker 2: and hey, I wouldn't doubt Caleb Love is capable. It's
Speaker 2: just that I'm saying nobody else out there projecting, he's not.
Speaker 2: You know, he's not projecting. And he wasn't invited to
Speaker 2: any of the.
Speaker 4: Camps right or to the things the G League camp
Speaker 4: that's the G League combine. But that's the point. Yeah, No,
Speaker 4: I hear you, and I'm not trying to. I just
Speaker 4: I just asked the question.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing about Caleb Love is that there's a
Speaker 3: lot of guys like him, guys about his height who
Speaker 3: can shoot and candle can and do those things. The
Speaker 3: guys that make are the guys that have something that
Speaker 3: stands out.
Speaker 4: For For P PJ, t J.
Speaker 3: McConnell, it was his his court sense, his court awareness, leadership,
Speaker 3: his selfishness, his leadership, and all those things.
Speaker 4: Added up to I brought this, you know, being able
Speaker 4: to overcome.
Speaker 3: His kind of average athletic ability.
Speaker 2: So I brought this up to Sean ten years ago,
Speaker 2: whatever TG was going on, So what do you think
Speaker 2: and what about him playing? And he talked about this
Speaker 2: is he's going to be in the NBA, and we
Speaker 2: all kind of looked, yeah, really.
Speaker 4: What are you are you looking at the same TJ
Speaker 4: where you're looking at it right exactly And he's defending
Speaker 4: his guy, but he.
Speaker 2: Was he was playing out flat out right. When we
Speaker 2: were leaving the thing yesterday. Yesterday I told Sheer, I says,
Speaker 2: you know, I asked Sean the same thing, and we
Speaker 2: were kind of skeptical, right, so do you think he says.
Speaker 3: Well, well, here, here's the thing is that the NBA,
Speaker 3: what they do is they draw out. So it's right,
Speaker 3: they they draw If the talent is there, they draw
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 4: And they were able to draw it out of TJ.
Speaker 4: And and they do that with guys all the time.
Speaker 3: If Caleb has a certain talent or a certain level
Speaker 3: of talent that they're looking for, they'll dig it out
Speaker 3: and then he's in. But if he doesn't have anything
Speaker 3: special like that, then he won't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see. I think the chances are very like, hey, uh,
Speaker 4: it's like, we asked questions.
Speaker 2: That's what we're paid to do, right year, paid to
Speaker 2: answer questions. It was not a question I'm skeptical that
Speaker 2: he's gonna it was just what do you think?
Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think, what the
Speaker 4: hell the wife, Well, he made an assumption that you
Speaker 4: were saying, you don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, no no, And that's how he listened
Speaker 2: to it. And I'm thinking I was thinking nobody else
Speaker 2: out there in the box stuff and all that are
Speaker 2: projecting him. Hey, I don't care if he does or
Speaker 2: he doesn't. He's just a question. Yeah, I hope he does. Okay,
Speaker 2: we gotta go. We're gonna try to find who uh
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Speaker 2: com in Omaha.
Speaker 15: What's the vibe like, Well, you know, tough game, I mean,
Speaker 15: Arizona battle. It's just that they had two outs in
Speaker 15: the eighth inning and then that blue double that just
Speaker 15: falls right inside the line. Is the baseball is a
Speaker 15: crazy game. And then right after that, you know, an
Speaker 15: intentional walk and then and then a hit, and then
Speaker 15: you bring clue in and uh put.
Speaker 16: In and and he you know you Chip Hal put.
Speaker 15: Him in there to stop, to stop to just a
Speaker 15: one run deficit, and then the guy had the two
Speaker 15: run uh.
Speaker 16: Double off them. So it's it's just one of those games.
Speaker 15: And Arizona's proven before they have the result to bounce
Speaker 15: back after a disappointing the first game of a series
Speaker 15: or of a playoff situation. You know, no better example
Speaker 15: than last week when they lost eighteen to two to
Speaker 15: North Carolina. So they know what buttons to push and
Speaker 15: what what to do to respond to this kind of thing.
Speaker 16: It's only it's different though now because.
Speaker 15: They're they're in a.
Speaker 16: Four team like double elemation part of brackets, so they.
Speaker 15: It's not just winning another couple of games. They have
Speaker 15: to win, you know, win like three more games to
Speaker 15: head onto the championship round, you know what I mean.
Speaker 15: So it's a little different, but they know how to
Speaker 15: respond to adversity. We'll see what they do on Sunday
Speaker 15: against Oregon State or Louisville.
Speaker 3: So is there any anything the second guess on that?
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you brought in your closer to to
Speaker 3: to end the ending. I mean, I don't see any
Speaker 3: wrong with that move that you know are people's second guess.
Speaker 3: Maybe you should come in a little sooner you said,
Speaker 3: like you said, it's baseball. The guy neardy hits one
Speaker 3: off the dirt and lands it on the line in
Speaker 3: right field, you know, with two outs, and then and
Speaker 3: then it blows up. I mean, is there anything the
Speaker 3: second guess? I don't feel like there is, because, like
Speaker 3: you said, it's just baseball.
Speaker 4: That's what happens.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think there is the second guessing that if
Speaker 15: Pluto wasn't as as dominant he's been, I think in
Speaker 15: this situation like that, you do want do you put
Speaker 15: the fire out? And he's used to that, so uh,
Speaker 15: you know, I don't think I don't think you can
Speaker 15: really fault Kevin Vance for putting him in, uh and
Speaker 15: make them mistake. Advanced makes it call the shots on
Speaker 15: fishing decisions and Chip Hale goes out there and does
Speaker 15: the you know, the switch. But uh, it's uh, I
Speaker 15: think in that situation it's successful, especially because the way
Speaker 15: Pluto has been touching. If Pluta has had like an
Speaker 15: inconsistent year and you do that and you put your
Speaker 15: closer in, then it's then it's you know, you can
Speaker 15: you can nippick and argue.
Speaker 16: But I think that was the propriate there.
Speaker 15: I know you're a hicks Is pitching Well man, he was.
Speaker 16: Rolling until that double hit that you know that.
Speaker 15: That little blue double down the line.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, he came in, got out of that situation. What
Speaker 2: out basics on one, based on third, and he gets
Speaker 2: those guys to strike out twice. What a fantastic finish there,
Speaker 2: and then God, now what's the vibe in terms of
Speaker 2: now they got you, they can't lose.
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, like I said earlier, they you can
Speaker 15: look at it both ways. You know, they they lose
Speaker 15: or they struggle in the opening game or opening weekend,
Speaker 15: either in the regular season or in the playoffs, and
Speaker 15: they bounce back and finished wrong. So uh, you know,
Speaker 15: one one then the pessimistic.
Speaker 16: Person and say why why.
Speaker 15: Aren't they ready when they start these series or the
Speaker 15: post game weekend.
Speaker 16: But on the other hand, they come.
Speaker 15: Back and rally and and you.
Speaker 16: Know, complete the jobs. So now it's like I said,
Speaker 16: it's a little bit.
Speaker 15: Different challenge, but they've proven they can do it. So
Speaker 15: I think the vibe when they when Madonnas Guzman and
Speaker 15: Owen Kramkowski and Mason White walked in the press room,
Speaker 15: it wasn't doom and gloom. They weren't like they weren't
Speaker 15: like down at all. You can tell that they had
Speaker 15: kind of like an anger or or like a you know,
Speaker 15: a look of determination instead of a look of defeats.
Speaker 4: Message was the main message, Chips.
Speaker 15: Yeah, his main message was all business.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 15: It's you know, they when you get when you get here,
Speaker 15: it's a lot of you know, a lot of hype
Speaker 15: and a lot of you know, family involvement and doing
Speaker 15: a lot of different things with family, and he kind
Speaker 15: of stressed, like now it's down to business completely. They
Speaker 15: do have some kind of team function tomorrow with involved
Speaker 15: with cook Calls World Series, but he said they look
Speaker 15: forward or practicing and focusing on what they got to
Speaker 15: do because, uh, you know, it could be a distraction
Speaker 15: here with a lot of things going on, but he
Speaker 15: wants to reel it in and he kind of had
Speaker 15: that mentality, and he said that more than ones that
Speaker 15: they're fighters and they'll still keep on fighting and they
Speaker 15: know they know how to how to face adversity. They've
Speaker 15: done it before, so it's kind of has he has
Speaker 15: that result, he has that confidence about him rather than
Speaker 15: being like, you know, feeling down or feeling sorry about
Speaker 15: what just happened, or being overly upset about what happened
Speaker 15: during the game.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I mean their backs against the wall.
Speaker 3: I mean this, it's it's hard, and it's it's especially
Speaker 3: hard difficult to you know, come back when it's not
Speaker 3: just that you got to get through the double elimination bracket,
Speaker 3: but then after that you got to win two out
Speaker 3: of three. You know, I'll point out to I'm an
Speaker 3: old guy and I remember this, you know, when Arizona
Speaker 3: won its first National Championship they lost. It was an
Speaker 3: eight team double elimination brand, so you didn't have the
Speaker 3: best two out of three.
Speaker 4: But Arizona lost the opener to a SU.
Speaker 3: Of all teams, that was the seventh time that ASU
Speaker 3: had beaten them in that years seventy six, a SU
Speaker 3: had beat them seven times. That made the seventh time
Speaker 3: ASU beat them. Arizona was oz and seven against a SU.
Speaker 3: Came back through the loser's bracket, played ASU again to
Speaker 3: get into the championship and beat them, and they're still
Speaker 3: but hurt about that one because they feel like, well,
Speaker 3: we beat you seven times and then all you had
Speaker 3: to do is beat us once and now you're in
Speaker 3: the championship.
Speaker 4: We said, well, should have beat us the eighth time,
Speaker 4: and you didn't.
Speaker 3: So you know it can happen, but it's it's less
Speaker 3: likely when you got to come back through the four
Speaker 3: team double imination bracket and then you got to win
Speaker 3: two out of three.
Speaker 4: It's tough on the pitching, so it's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be hard, but you know, hey, you give it
Speaker 3: your shot, right, I mean, like you said, these guys
Speaker 3: are gonna fight.
Speaker 15: Yeah, pitching, you mentioned the pitching. If you're going to
Speaker 15: be playing these amount of games in less than a week.
Speaker 15: It comes down to pitching that there is on a
Speaker 15: have the pitching right to withstand all that. I think
Speaker 15: their bullpen has been has been solid and can rise
Speaker 15: up to it, but the starting pitching is still a
Speaker 15: little bit questionable. Uh Owen Owen Kremkowski, he battled his
Speaker 15: way out of some jams today, so give up nine hits,
Speaker 15: but you know he had seven strack ups in one walk,
Speaker 15: so it's kind of like up and down.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And then uh, you know you got uh.
Speaker 15: Smith Bailey who's a freshman. You know, Chip hal says
Speaker 15: many times he's know a sophomore because of all the
Speaker 15: you know, long season, but you know he hasn't he
Speaker 15: hasn't pitched yet in Omaha. And then you then you
Speaker 15: got Rol Gottaza, who's gonna most likely pitch tomorrow or Sunday.
Speaker 15: I'm sorry, and so not to sure, not sure what
Speaker 15: you're gonna expect that as him what with what Chip
Speaker 15: wants is basically what he got from Owen today, about
Speaker 15: five six and keep the team close and see what
Speaker 15: happens if if Arizona can do that against Oregon State
Speaker 15: or Louisville. Then I'm sure he likes their chances, so
Speaker 15: it's a big responsibility for a Roule. And then maybe
Speaker 15: Casey Kasey hints and then Garrett Hicks again, although they
Speaker 15: use both those guys today. But now now it's it's
Speaker 15: now now it's do or die, so it's really you
Speaker 15: don't you really can't hold back. So it's gonna be uh,
Speaker 15: it's gonna be interesting to see what how Arizona handles
Speaker 15: that tension. It's a little bit of a type of
Speaker 15: a different tension here. Yeah, it's College World Series, but
Speaker 15: they have been able to handle it before, so they
Speaker 15: at least they have that going for him, and Mason
Speaker 15: White touched on that in the post game also, so
Speaker 15: they know, they talk about it, they know that they
Speaker 15: can do this.
Speaker 2: So let me say, I haven't covered this team or
Speaker 2: followed this team very much this year. You have, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure about Jay, but let me just say this,
Speaker 2: if you're an Arizona baseball fan, how the hell do
Speaker 2: you survive? Every game that I've seen is like, they
Speaker 2: take the lead, they lose the lead. You take the lead,
Speaker 2: they lose the lead, and then they either win or
Speaker 2: they lose. It in the bottom. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's hard, Yeah, stressful.
Speaker 16: Yeah, even that three to two when.
Speaker 15: They had on cal Paulie opened up the Eugene Regional,
Speaker 15: they only had two hits name and then the next
Speaker 15: two games they had with thirty two hits and fourteen
Speaker 15: home runs in the in the blowouts against utile Valan
Speaker 15: cal Pauli.
Speaker 16: So it's kind of.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is, it is. You're you're you don't know.
Speaker 15: What to expect, really, you do you you kind of
Speaker 15: expect them to rally back. So that's a lot of
Speaker 15: people are expecting on Sunday, and they did.
Speaker 4: But they did today, well, they did today. They got
Speaker 4: too on to two hits. No, uh, the why the
Speaker 4: why the pinch.
Speaker 15: Hitter percentages with the lefty and righty you know, I
Speaker 15: you know you got it like brifle although right, I
Speaker 15: mean that's one thing he could you could question and.
Speaker 3: Her Yeah, as a lefty right thing, I'm sure.
Speaker 15: Yeah, he just felt like it was the best possible
Speaker 15: thing and he he thought it was a that bat
Speaker 15: for him and then Summer Hill grounded grounds out.
Speaker 3: That's that's you know, you get the seven eight nine
Speaker 3: guys to give you a chance and then your leadoff
Speaker 3: hereter comes and hits into a double play and you
Speaker 3: just go.
Speaker 4: That was tough.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm sure it was frusting to.
Speaker 15: Watch on TV.
Speaker 16: Yeah, being here a little different.
Speaker 15: Because you're here the crowd, noise, and it's just a
Speaker 15: little different field. But if I was watching this game
Speaker 15: on TV, I would have been very frustrated as an
Speaker 15: Arizona If I was an Arizona fan watching the game
Speaker 15: and must have been frustrating.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you because you mentioned this on social media,
Speaker 3: and you know, you're an old guy like us now
Speaker 3: even though I knew you, you know when you're a
Speaker 3: nice But I looked at the graphic of announcing that
Speaker 3: people on the show today and there's just nothing but
Speaker 3: old guys on that. Yeah, because you you you hands
Speaker 3: And anyways, I digress. You mentioned that you hadn't had
Speaker 3: a chance to cover a college world series. What what's
Speaker 3: just what's Steve mentioned?
Speaker 4: What's the vibe? What's it like over there?
Speaker 3: It seems just a great event and just a cool
Speaker 3: celebratory kind of thing.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's it's a it's like a festival. Even in
Speaker 15: the beyond the centerfold wall, there's a you know, there's
Speaker 15: like a carnival going on, and it's it's, uh, you
Speaker 15: got more than twenty about twenty five thousand fans from
Speaker 15: eight different schools here, plus Omaha people. It's it's their things,
Speaker 15: so they treat it with the utmost you know, the
Speaker 15: hospital way, hospitality way, and.
Speaker 16: It's it's just so far, it's been.
Speaker 15: It's been everything I thought it would be, just because
Speaker 15: of the fan involvement in the atmosphere. You imagine a
Speaker 15: you know, it's kind of like a Final four. And
Speaker 15: I've been a few Final fours because you have all
Speaker 15: these different fans from different schools and it's at one
Speaker 15: event and there's a fan fast here. It's just like
Speaker 15: the Final four. So it's it's definitely worth the experience
Speaker 15: if you can make it here. You know, Arizona's here.
Speaker 15: That's why I'm here. I don't know if I'd be
Speaker 15: able to make it here if it's just teams that
Speaker 15: I didn't have any otherning interests or a much.
Speaker 4: How they travel. Did they travel.
Speaker 15: Well Arizona had I would say they Arizona close to
Speaker 15: Carolina had about the same amount of people, you know,
Speaker 15: I think at least what five thousand each at least
Speaker 15: in that ballpark. Figure, there was a lot of people
Speaker 15: here with Arizona. When I was traveling yesterday on American airlines,
Speaker 15: there are a lot of Arizona shirts. There was some
Speaker 15: UCLA fans too, which kind of surprised me. But yeah, there, there, there, there,
Speaker 15: there's a lot of people from Tucson here. You see them,
Speaker 15: see a lot of them.
Speaker 4: Remind me of not.
Speaker 15: As much as Las Vegas with a Pac twelve tournament,
Speaker 15: but you see all those U of A fans, and
Speaker 15: it's they get the sense that they do travel.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, okay, Well we'll see what happens on Sunday.
Speaker 2: It's at eleven o'clock, I think, great, same time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and who they play? So now it's momentum time because
Speaker 2: they gotta get it. They don't have uncle oo right now,
Speaker 2: so we'll see if they.
Speaker 16: Can get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I took a left and I'm on.
Speaker 2: Okay, So hey, I thank you have We'll talk to
Speaker 2: you next week and see what's going on. All right, great,
Speaker 2: take care? Yeah, thank you, thank you Ray for letting
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Speaker 4: Thanks for the phone for us. Yes, okay, hopefully we
Speaker 4: just messed up on Monday. That's that's a computer thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, we're good, right, good, We're good good, Okay.
Speaker 4: So, uh well, I think you know, look, look, Chip
Speaker 4: Hale is.
Speaker 3: From the time that he you know, he was here
Speaker 3: as a player, you know, all through his career as
Speaker 3: a player and manager and coach. The guy's a fighter,
Speaker 3: and you expect that his team is going to take
Speaker 3: on that, uh the personal personality, that mentality that they're saying. Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a little harder, but we're still
Speaker 3: gonna come out here and and good luck playing us.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, let me say this. I know you're you're pro Arizona.
Speaker 2: Last week when they got their butts handed to them
Speaker 2: eighteen and two, you were still Hey, it's.
Speaker 4: One game we had that conversation the.
Speaker 2: Same time, same place, and you were confident they'd be okay,
Speaker 2: at least they would give it good. Could be yeah,
Speaker 2: that they were gonna give a good and they did
Speaker 2: and then and they want and then they won again.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that they're going to do that right
Speaker 2: right Sunday, no matter who they play right now. They
Speaker 2: just got to do it in that cliche form. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one day, one pitch at a time, exactly.
Speaker 3: And you know what if that's that's got to be
Speaker 3: the approach. And that was the approach last week, you know,
Speaker 3: after that beating that they took. But we sat here
Speaker 3: and said, yeah, because it's baseball, you know, anything can happen.
Speaker 3: You go out and win the next day. And now
Speaker 3: you got a chance, and you can win the next one.
Speaker 3: And they did and then they and look they were
Speaker 3: losing late in the in that game three against North
Speaker 3: Carolina and and then went and put it away.
Speaker 2: And not to say that North Carolina's not good, because
Speaker 2: they're very good. In fact, their favorite to beat the
Speaker 2: Arizona as South as Carolina Coastal was today right. Uh,
Speaker 2: who Arizona faces, they're all good, no matter who, doesn't
Speaker 2: matter it's they're all good, and that's they're not playing
Speaker 2: whatever po dunk baseball time. Well, yeah, they're playing teams
Speaker 2: that are very, very good and under the same situation
Speaker 2: saying we gotta win the what's.
Speaker 3: Clos one, twenty three, twenty four in a row or somebody,
Speaker 3: it's crazy, you gotta call hello, you're on the air
Speaker 3: nine the ball?
Speaker 4: Who's this?
Speaker 6: Hey Steve?
Speaker 4: Hey Jay? This is Donnie, Hey don what's the word?
Speaker 6: But well, yeah, it's sad the way that it ended.
Speaker 6: But Arizona had its chance. Sure, you know, it's like, uh,
Speaker 6: it was like right at the in the in the
Speaker 6: seventh inning of the of the North Carolina game on Sunday,
Speaker 6: I forgot who I responded to on act I go,
Speaker 6: Arizona's in a great spot right here. We just got
Speaker 6: to get a couple of guys, you know, put a
Speaker 6: couple of hits together and we could win this thing.
Speaker 6: And they did that today. You know, the one good
Speaker 6: thing today was Kramkowski was dealing. Yeah better, he pitched
Speaker 6: really good because I had I didn't get a chance
Speaker 6: to see it because I'm working today. Well I didn't
Speaker 6: officially get a chance to see it.
Speaker 16: But.
Speaker 6: Started when he started last Friday. That boy was soaking
Speaker 6: wet and he was sweating and he was you know,
Speaker 6: and I thow, man, it must be humid. And he
Speaker 6: was the only one. He was the only sweaty one
Speaker 6: out there. So at the end of by the time
Speaker 6: he came out, he was like, man, his nerves got him,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 16: But he came back, he battled back, and.
Speaker 6: He did what he had to do. Our boat pens
Speaker 6: still intact for the next three four games. For the
Speaker 6: next three games at least we got a day's rest
Speaker 6: in between, so that that means well.
Speaker 2: It seems to me, Matt, Donny you watch it all
Speaker 2: the time and it's something that I referred to with
Speaker 2: the Haavier. This team, it would seem get ten runs
Speaker 2: and you're good. He's just it's tough, I guess because
Speaker 2: they're you know what I'm saying, you got to get
Speaker 2: some some cushion and just haven't been able to do
Speaker 2: that in the games I've seen this.
Speaker 6: This team is not They're not a steamroller team. They'll
Speaker 6: have a good inning, yeah, they'll have a good inning.
Speaker 6: They won't have they don't use it. They don't put
Speaker 6: up a lot of knock you out of here innings,
Speaker 6: you know, not a lot of six run innings. You know,
Speaker 6: like like last year we had a little bit more
Speaker 6: of that this year. You know, they got to keep
Speaker 6: it close and they got to stay within striking distance.
Speaker 6: And today, you know, with three runs and wanted bat
Speaker 6: to do it, it's just not enough time. And then
Speaker 6: with Summer Hill, I didn't. I wasn't feeling good with
Speaker 6: Summer Hill coming up the bat because since he broke
Speaker 6: his hand against West Virginia, he hasn't he hasn't struck
Speaker 6: the ball well at all. It's almost like he's got
Speaker 6: the yips in golf. You know, he he had he
Speaker 6: hasn't put a good snap on the ball in a
Speaker 6: long time. I mean he had he had a home
Speaker 6: run the other day, but you know those those type
Speaker 6: of shots are few and far between right now, and
Speaker 6: it's he's almost it's almost like he's playing his way
Speaker 6: into a senior season.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, you know, you made a good point.
Speaker 3: And somebody, you know, I texted somebody because they were
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, how tough this was, What a
Speaker 3: tough game this was, you know, against against close soth Carolina.
Speaker 4: I made the point, they're really good. No they are.
Speaker 4: They lost. They're really damn good.
Speaker 3: The pitcher was good, you know, and you know and
Speaker 3: clearly the you know, the coach made a good move
Speaker 3: to take the starting pitcher out when he did.
Speaker 4: But this is a good team.
Speaker 3: And you know, we want to say they're not, well
Speaker 3: they are, you know, just because they're not in the
Speaker 3: SEC or whatever.
Speaker 4: They're a good team.
Speaker 6: Well, and that's you know, today, it was a great game.
Speaker 6: It was a good ball game all all, all the
Speaker 6: way through. You know, it's this is the type of
Speaker 6: game that people that don't watch baseball, they go, gosh,
Speaker 6: that was a terrible game. You know, it's boring. Was boring,
Speaker 6: it was. It was a super game, you know. And
Speaker 6: and like you said, and like you said, Jay, you
Speaker 6: know they're in Omaha, right. We got eight really good teams.
Speaker 6: No matter what the records are, no matter where they
Speaker 6: finished in their in their conferences, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6: You know, you got eight really good teams that had
Speaker 6: to play some really good ball to get here, and
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to play your butt off to get out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no question.
Speaker 2: The one thing that struck me was their pitcher. Their
Speaker 2: starter was like their third best dude, they didn't go
Speaker 2: and when they bought in the reliever, they didn't bring
Speaker 2: in the best reliever.
Speaker 4: They brought in the two. And that's what it is.
Speaker 4: It's just how you feel and what you go with
Speaker 4: that day of the of the game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that and that might not have been what
Speaker 6: you know, they may you know, they may have may
Speaker 6: have thought they needed to bring the number one starter,
Speaker 6: but maybe the adjustments at Arizona made said, you know what,
Speaker 6: maybe this guy's better against these guys. Yeah, maybe maybe
Speaker 6: our number two guy is better than our number one
Speaker 6: guy if these guys are going to sit on fastballs,
Speaker 6: because that's that's what our other guy does. And that's
Speaker 6: what you got to do as a coach. You got
Speaker 6: to be able to you know, move your chess pieces
Speaker 6: and everything. But I still think that, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: our boat pen is still intact. The only one that
Speaker 6: can pitched for a few days is going to be
Speaker 6: ram Kowski. But if we get into next you know,
Speaker 6: early next week, he can go again and and and
Speaker 6: pitching wise, we're fine. You know, it's just putting those
Speaker 6: hits together, you know, keeping them close and putting the
Speaker 6: hits together. That's what we're gonna have to do. We're
Speaker 6: gonna have to play this type of ball the whole way.
Speaker 4: Through, without question. Yeah, without question. Okay, Don, thanks, thanks
Speaker 4: a bunch, Thanks for the call.
Speaker 6: Good good times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still fun. Yep, thanks always fun.
Speaker 6: Yeah, have a good one, guy.
Speaker 2: You think we have time for a couple more calls
Speaker 2: if you'd like to call on five to two oho
Speaker 2: four one six seventy four forty. I know it's a
Speaker 2: good day when Vic doesn't text me to say fire Chip.
Speaker 4: He didn't do that today. Same. I like you know
Speaker 4: what you know. What I like about Chip is that
Speaker 4: he's just a ball player. Yeah, he's just a ballplayer
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 2: We had this conversation and you would know this too
Speaker 2: because you were in that era. Uh and I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I was not here yet. Chip's just like a dude.
Speaker 4: He's a dude. It's just a dude. Did you hear
Speaker 4: us yesterday?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Here, here, Here's a dude thing. Okay. This comes from
Speaker 4: just having, you know, having local knowledge. Right. His mother
Speaker 4: in law owned.
Speaker 3: She's like mother in law, but a nice lady owned
Speaker 3: the elementary school where my kids went to school called
Speaker 3: Castle Hill over here right next to it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she owned it and ran it in the off season.
Speaker 3: Chip was the lawn boy. He'd go over there and hid.
Speaker 3: He was the guy who was cutting the grass and
Speaker 3: you see him the mower and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Chip Halee, he's the manager of a.
Speaker 2: Major league Because we'll talk about it in a second,
Speaker 2: we'll get another call. Well, you're on the air and
Speaker 2: I on the ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah, always the other side of the coin, Howard, don't
Speaker 4: depress us, Yeah, Howard.
Speaker 17: Well, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna speak truth is what
Speaker 17: you're talking about. First of all, major League baseball is
Speaker 17: going on. And o Wan who left us, didn't he
Speaker 17: he's any of the guy that says I don't like
Speaker 17: college baseball.
Speaker 4: I'm going to second that.
Speaker 17: But they used wood bats too, because I heard some
Speaker 17: of the bats. They sound like they use wood bats
Speaker 17: also in college. No, none of those guys use wood beats.
Speaker 17: And if you're but I heard the sound.
Speaker 3: Well, even though bats can be made wood bat I mean, uh,
Speaker 3: metal bats can be made to sound like wood bats.
Speaker 4: They make them that way on purpose.
Speaker 3: If you're if you're a coach, if you're a college
Speaker 3: baseball coach and your guy wants to go hit a
Speaker 3: wood bat.
Speaker 4: You sit him on the bench, you say we're gonna
Speaker 4: have somebody bat for you.
Speaker 3: Because there's no wood there's no wood bat that's better.
Speaker 4: Than a than a metal bat.
Speaker 17: Okay, that said, I went over to Buffalo wild Wings
Speaker 17: to watch the Cubs. That's the first and foremost and ever,
Speaker 17: of course everyone was.
Speaker 4: Watching them Wildcats. The Wildcats were on the majority of
Speaker 4: the people.
Speaker 17: But to me, that's not even that wasn't even the
Speaker 17: second best thing on because of course I was watching
Speaker 17: the US.
Speaker 4: Open too, oh man, And that was gonna be some
Speaker 4: of my.
Speaker 17: Questions to Jay about who that South African Lawrence guy
Speaker 17: is And I guess that's spawned guy.
Speaker 4: Guess is he's an American.
Speaker 17: And right now Sam sam Burgs is in first place.
Speaker 17: So you got a dark horse for moving day tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Joe, Well, I've I've got Ben Griffin.
Speaker 3: Uh he's he's yeah, he's tied for fourth right now.
Speaker 3: He's had top tens in his last three tournaments, including
Speaker 3: the PGA.
Speaker 4: Uh he's got a win in there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: He's my guy.
Speaker 3: I've been watching him all day and he's he's he's
Speaker 3: even going to eighteen.
Speaker 4: Uh, he's tied for fourth.
Speaker 3: I like him. I like him a lot. The Shamble's
Speaker 3: going to miss the cut. Rory's on the cut line,
Speaker 3: So it's my guy. Phil's gonna make a cut.
Speaker 4: He's your guy. Oh man, better be a better guy
Speaker 4: than that.
Speaker 17: No, No, Phil's great and and he because it's the
Speaker 17: only one hasn't won. But but I agree with you,
Speaker 17: it's whoever wins, it's going to be somebody that's ever
Speaker 17: won it before.
Speaker 4: Well that none of the none of the big guys
Speaker 4: the top.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look, you look at the you look at
Speaker 3: the leader board, and it's it's none of the guys
Speaker 3: that you would expect right now.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be someone that doesn't win.
Speaker 17: So that keeps filling there, someone that's never won the
Speaker 17: US Open.
Speaker 2: All right, Howard, thanks for the call. You well, have
Speaker 2: a good weekend. Have you follows day?
Speaker 15: Yep?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, father, So you talked about Chip, So we
Speaker 4: talked about this with Who's with me yesterday? Oh Dave?
Speaker 4: So so the eighty six years.
Speaker 2: After there was there was Chip On. Just another dude, right,
Speaker 2: another dude, kind of a smart dude.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Uh. You have Steve Kerr.
Speaker 2: One of those dudes, and you had Chuck I mean,
Speaker 2: you've must have been kind of like one of those
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 3: Those days, just you had three those same kind of
Speaker 3: the proverbial blue collar programs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the work as off the guys who they were
Speaker 2: just not they were not great talent, but they were
Speaker 2: great talent.
Speaker 3: They were you know guys who were who were not
Speaker 3: under recruited, uh were, but had you know, had had
Speaker 3: a level of talent that you could do something with, right.
Speaker 3: And then the grit they had, the grit that all
Speaker 3: those guys had, you know. I mean, I like Jerry Kendall,
Speaker 3: but he wasn't the Dick Tomy lude Olsen.
Speaker 4: Grit kind of guy.
Speaker 3: I feel like Jerry Kendall was a blue collar guy,
Speaker 3: blue collar coach.
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 3: I felt he was more of a kind of any
Speaker 3: you know, elite kind of a lot of the players.
Speaker 3: He'd go to LA and get all his players right.
Speaker 3: And I had a beef with him on this that
Speaker 3: there were a lot of good, blue collar, hard working
Speaker 3: guys in Tucson that never got a sniff from him, right,
Speaker 3: that that were coming through PMA College and playing for
Speaker 3: Rich all day or playing at the high schools here
Speaker 3: that he would never recruit because he went and got
Speaker 3: all his guys from LA So I didn't consider him
Speaker 3: one of those guys like Dick Whould you know, who
Speaker 3: would get the lunch Taiale guy.
Speaker 4: Right, But you can't.
Speaker 3: Argue with the success that he had and it was
Speaker 3: a farming let the work for him, and so it
Speaker 3: worked for him, and so you couldn't debate it, couldn't
Speaker 3: you know, give him a hard time about it. But
Speaker 3: to me, he was he was less of that. But
Speaker 3: in there there were guys like Chip Hale and those
Speaker 3: guys who weren't those kind of blue collar guys who
Speaker 3: came through the program. But and he was and a yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was and again kind of just a regular guy.
Speaker 3: I mentioned, you know, he was the lawn boy at
Speaker 3: an elementary school. You know, at the same time he
Speaker 3: was a major league manager.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I say this because I watched over
Speaker 2: the last three games him on the innings, you know,
Speaker 2: when they he's just a self effacing, kind of funny,
Speaker 2: kind of you know, Steve is that guy Chuck. If
Speaker 2: you get to know Chuck, he's kind of like that guy.
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, yeah, whatever, I'm sure that's how it
Speaker 4: was back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that and that that's the kind of
Speaker 3: athletes that were they were coming through at Arizona and
Speaker 3: they were having success with that because Arizona was a
Speaker 3: place that guys like that could go still is right
Speaker 3: if they didn't feel like they were getting the attention
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: Is still is. I mean, those are.
Speaker 3: The guys that Arizona's got to make it make its
Speaker 3: old song exactly.
Speaker 2: It's not in the upper half, upper part, but it's
Speaker 2: right in the middle.
Speaker 3: And if you can get a bunch of them at
Speaker 3: once like they did in eighty six, nineteen eighty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, even twenty twelve, you know, the the no
Speaker 3: the n CUAA Championship Ball you know Andy Lopez is
Speaker 3: twenty twelve team, I mean, yeah, yes, uh.
Speaker 4: What's it?
Speaker 3: Reds Snyder has has you know, had a long career
Speaker 3: in the in the in the major league.
Speaker 4: But who on that twenty twelve team was a superstar?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 3: All right, who's the third basement? I know that he's
Speaker 3: I don't he is breeing. Yeah, you know, he's still
Speaker 3: kicking around in baseball. But there wasn't a you know,
Speaker 3: what's the name Leva Alex Lave I think was his
Speaker 3: name is.
Speaker 4: That, you know. But there wasn't a superstar. No, there
Speaker 4: was just dudes, right, none of none.
Speaker 3: Of those None of those teams had super superstars. Unlike
Speaker 3: one of the best teams that didn't get to the
Speaker 3: to the tournament, the eighty nine team was Scott Erickson, J. T. Snow,
Speaker 3: Trevor Hoffman, Lance Dickson. All these guys who made it
Speaker 3: to the major leagues and they were all on this
Speaker 3: one team and didn't get out of the region.
Speaker 4: It's weird how that helped baseball. Well, you have your
Speaker 4: own answer for that. It's based. It's based. It's baseball. Okay,
Speaker 4: you got to go right, yep, Okay,