WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:05.480 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on 2 00:00:05.559 --> 00:00:10.199 Fox Sports fourteen fifth Day, powered by Nova Insurance Services 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:12.720 Insure your most prized possessions. 4 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:17.039 Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Y on the Ball 5 00:00:17.039 --> 00:00:20.559 here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In 6 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:24.440 with me today is my usual Friday gainst jaycin Zez 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:28.320 And he's wearing red and blue and a little blue, 8 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:31.800 A little blue, a little blue. Game of inches, baby. 9 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:36.000 Yeah, you know, yeah, it's just too bad. Guy hits 10 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:41.039 a ball, you know around so, you know, with two 11 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:43.719 strikes on him and he's just protecting the plate and 12 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.840 then it hits on the line and then I'll help 13 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:46.359 breaks leaf. 14 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:48.079 So that was just too bad for the Cats. 15 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.920 But that's baseball, right, you know, I'm sure there's gonna 16 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:54.960 be a lot of second guessing about, you know, when 17 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.560 you bring in Tony Pluta, you know, how long you 18 00:00:57.600 --> 00:00:59.799 live together your pinch hitters and all that kind of 19 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.000 stuf up. You know what, this is baseball, and and 20 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.719 things happen. You make moves, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. 21 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:06.920 Uh uh. 22 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:10.120 You know, Arizona could have won that game as well 23 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.920 as they lost it in Coastal Carolina. 24 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.120 We'll be talking to itself. Sure, yeah, no, no question 25 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:16.079 in with us today? 26 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.840 Is Ray manning the board talking every now and again 27 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:20.680 when he gets the sign to talk. 28 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.400 What's the sign? Ray, I don't know what the sign is. 29 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.799 He gives me the I got something. Oh, he gives 30 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:29.959 you the sign? Got it? Okay? I thought it was 31 00:01:29.959 --> 00:01:32.920 the other way around. I mean between two rivals here, 32 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:34.519 got the Giants jersey. 33 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.920 You know, I left my house the second the game, 34 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:39.439 you know, like the game ender, I turned off to 35 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:39.799 the ship. 36 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:41.000 I would have put in the Dodgers. 37 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:42.959 I forgot he was a Giants fan, and so I'm 38 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:45.000 a little upset that he's in here in Giants gear 39 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.480 and I've got I got no Dodger, no Dodger gear on. 40 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.560 What's the Steelers wheel song? Jokers to my left? It's 41 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.319 craziness to my right? What's that one? 42 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.040 Jokers to the left? Something to the right way. I 43 00:01:56.079 --> 00:01:57.760 don't remember the Steve Miller band. 44 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:01.920 Yeah, but uh, you know, big series coming up. But 45 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:03.519 you know, the Dodgers took two out of just took 46 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:05.280 two out of three from the Padres, and now they go, 47 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.319 they go, what they've got San Francisco. They're at in 48 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:11.360 Dodger Stadium. So that's uh, you know, that's how I'll be. 49 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:13.759 I'll be going home to watch that baby tonight my wife. 50 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:15.680 My wife's out of town, so I'll be glued to 51 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:16.719 the all three games. 52 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.719 Economy of Arizona Tucson just got bigger question. 53 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.120 The question is do I go? 54 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:26.560 Do I go Lucky Wishbone, Popeyes or churches tonight or 55 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:33.000 the e r from the thing is the US Open 56 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:34.639 is going on too, and so there's all these things, 57 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:36.000 the College World Series, all these. 58 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.240 Things going on. Yeah, it's Father's Yeah. 59 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:43.439 My father to Day, the least celebrated holiday of all 60 00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.439 Father's Day. I saw funny, Okay, I said, you just 61 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.080 see a funny video of a comedian. 62 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:51.560 Yeah, yeah, I've seen. I've said that to the we're 63 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:52.840 sitting the number twenty. 64 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:55.800 Number twenty six, number twenty six out of twenty six. 65 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:58.240 He said, Arbor days even ahead of and I don't 66 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:00.080 even know what I know what it is. Yeah, I 67 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.560 saw that. Yeah, yeah, I forgot. If I get it tied, 68 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:04.479 that'd be a good thing. 69 00:03:06.400 --> 00:03:08.680 I'm cooking on Father's Day because my wife's not home 70 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.439 for who you right, father? 71 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:13.439 Yeah? 72 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.680 Anyways, but it's you know, hey, it's a it's a 73 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.400 good it's a you know, it's. 74 00:03:17.240 --> 00:03:18.879 Good to be a day just with this, just call 75 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:21.479 it father what about me day? Yeah? Exactly. 76 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:24.039 But you know what the funny thing is, though, if 77 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:25.759 I get to just sit home and sit in front 78 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:28.319 of the TV and watch and watch the US Open 79 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.800 and then the Dodger game all day, I'm that's that's 80 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:32.280 a good day. 81 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:34.240 That's a good It's a radio station. 82 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:36.080 I'm not sure if it was on our station or 83 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:40.400 not said what would you pay a few thousand dollars 84 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.159 for on a normal day? I can just kind of 85 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.240 off the top of my man, what would you pay for 86 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.360 for a decent amount of money? I'll just say twenty 87 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.639 five hundred dollars uh, to get for father to day? 88 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:53.280 For no, for any any day? What would you what 89 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:57.360 would you pay for? I'm good, I guess I don't understand. 90 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:59.360 It was a question the people call in and try 91 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:00.080 to get if. 92 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:03.199 You would pay, ex I'd pay twelve hundred dollars to 93 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:05.080 go to Game one of a World Series, which I 94 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:05.800 did last. 95 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:09.080 Year, right right, I'd the fund a trip to themha, 96 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:12.159 probably if I got you know what. 97 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:16.399 The answer was the most piece and quiet funny, not 98 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.279 to be bothered because we live in this world of craziness. 99 00:04:20.319 --> 00:04:23.480 Just to be not yeah, to not have to listen 100 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.279 to any of it. That's a good one. 101 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:27.480 No one got it, because who would. 102 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:29.439 Think that that's a good one. I mean, that's definitely 103 00:04:29.480 --> 00:04:31.519 a good one. I would love to not have to 104 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.680 listen to any of that crap for one day because 105 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:35.519 you can't get away from it. 106 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.519 No, no, no, yeah. And it's all our own fault too. 107 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:40.439 I'm sure you're on the phone stupidly for whatever reason. 108 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:41.879 I'm on my phone all the time. 109 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.720 I spend I spend an hour or two, you know, 110 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.800 going flipping TikTok, and when I see something political come up, 111 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.120 I flip through it really fast to try and try 112 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.160 and let them know I don't want this crap on 113 00:04:53.160 --> 00:04:55.920 my feet. Give me, you know, give me baseball highlights, 114 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:59.319 give me you know, sports stuff, give me music and 115 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:01.040 stuff like that. And you know, as soon as I 116 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.279 see whether it's you know, no matter what, if it's 117 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.639 political at all, I flip it real fast because I 118 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:08.879 want the thing to know. 119 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:10.319 I don't want to see that you're going to be 120 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:12.519 flipping for a while. I know it's bad flipping for 121 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:12.879 a while. 122 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.879 Today a good week of shows, and we've got Friday show, 123 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.879 another good week. We have Javio and Morales. We'll return 124 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:21.160 this week and he's in Omaha. He covered the game, 125 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.560 so I think they'll be done by by three in 126 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:26.560 about fifteen minutes or whatever it is with their press 127 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:28.720 conferences and things. Is that the game went in three hours. 128 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:30.240 Yeah, it went long. It went long. 129 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.199 So we'll have him, and then we'll have Greg Hanson, 130 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.639 who has been through many of these type of things 131 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:37.120 over his career, so we'll talk more about that. 132 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:39.639 Greg had some interesting comments about the Big Twelve and 133 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.040 is uh not I think I think it was last 134 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:45.079 week's Notes column talking about how. 135 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:50.319 Overall the Big Twelve is kind of EH in all 136 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.920 sports as a whole, I would agree. 137 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:54.319 Which, you know, when you put the way you put, 138 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.519 I'm like, you're right, I said, But then I said 139 00:05:56.560 --> 00:06:00.000 him a thing I said with a note saying except 140 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:01.959 all was the most fun we ever had, no question 141 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.160 when we talk about it's football, it's and then all that, 142 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:07.600 you know, it just kind of doesn't win and not 143 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.279 to a lot of national champions. Track and field seems 144 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.639 to be you know, the biggest most successful sport for 145 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.240 the conference. You know, when you think about you know, 146 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:19.800 the Pac twelve, you know baseball and softball and and 147 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.040 and and football and all those things. He's probably pretty right, 148 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.519 there's no question. But if all you pay attention to 149 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:30.480 is football and basketball, it's still a fun coutt. 150 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:32.199 It's better than where we were. 151 00:06:32.319 --> 00:06:35.639 Right football, I'm not so sure, but certainly basketball and 152 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.680 it's gonna want it's gonna be a step brother to SEC. 153 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:41.480 It's just it is what it is, right until they 154 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.560 kind of put everything together and say. 155 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.079 Well, you know, you know, you know, I was thinking 156 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:45.800 about that last week. 157 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:48.839 You know, here's what I wish, not wish, but I mean, 158 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.680 I wouldn't mind if just if the SEC and the 159 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.639 Big ten just going going the wrong. Go have your go, 160 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.519 have your league play each other, do your little things, 161 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.360 you know, and just play each other and get the 162 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:02.600 hell out of here. And if you want to call 163 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:04.279 yourselves national championships, not. 164 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:06.480 You, that would not yourself. For the rest of us, 165 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:08.839 I don't care about them. So what you do, you're 166 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:09.360 the champion. 167 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.519 Everybody else play each other. I'd love you, know, I'd 168 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:14.560 love you. But see the thing about it, is though 169 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.399 that USC and U C, l A and Oregon and 170 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:18.920 Washington are all in the Big ten. 171 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.720 I'd want them back. If you had something to wish for, 172 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:25.000 I want them back. 173 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.720 Give us them back, and then you guys gonna make 174 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:29.279 your own league of everybody else. 175 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.959 Christy Brinkley, if you're there, we granting wishes today. 176 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.399 But I'm sick of those guys. I'm sick of those guys. 177 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:39.560 We are undeniably the best. We're going to do whatever 178 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:43.480 we want, and screw the hell they're leadings without those guys. Yeah, no, 179 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.639 I get that. I get that their leaders. I'm sure 180 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:47.759 there are people within the system. There are two people 181 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.040 over there I want to smack really hard, the commissioners, 182 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.879 Greg Burned and and Greg Sanky. 183 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.279 Yeah, well, I'd like to slap the hell out of you, 184 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.720 Like I said, even in their own SEC quadrants. There's 185 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.600 people at like the boxes. Yeah, get us out and 186 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:02.399 let us play. 187 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.079 I'd love to slap the hell out of both of 188 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:06.759 those guys. Greg burn right now, if you're listening, I 189 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:09.040 want you in here. I want to smack you in 190 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:14.199 the face. I got we can call. 191 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.079 You know next Friday, if we can, we will because 192 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.439 I've asked. I've seen him a few places, get shorstee whatever. 193 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.079 But yeah, yeah, we'll say, you know, Greg, I have 194 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:26.079 something to talk about. You know, he'll gladly talk about it, 195 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.000 you know, but you know you don't have a spin 196 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:30.680 to it, of course, would. 197 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.039 He is the spinner? Ye yes, yeah, no. 198 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:34.559 No, okay, but I get what you're saying. But it 199 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:39.720 wouldn't be fun. It wouldn't be no, because you wouldn't 200 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:42.000 be the champ. Well, you are the champ of this, 201 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:43.559 but what about the big boys. 202 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:46.200 You can't compete with the big boys. I don't mind 203 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.600 competing against them. They don't want to compete against us. 204 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.240 They don't want to play. They don't want to play us. 205 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:54.759 Well, they want, they want. 206 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:58.399 I love playing those guys because it's a chance to 207 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.480 tell them to shut the hell. Attita is a perfect example. Ryeah, 208 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.279 we are, we are, we are, and then they didn't 209 00:09:03.279 --> 00:09:05.759 do right. There's three pack tip Pac twelve teams in 210 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:07.360 the in the in the in the conference series. 211 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:11.559 That's my point, Steve. They they think that we're beneath them, 212 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:13.440 and they don't. They shouldn't have to deal with that, 213 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:14.600 that's no doubt. But that's the part. 214 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:17.159 So if if you think that, go have your own 215 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:19.960 league and call yourself national champions. But we will say, 216 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.600 I don't know, you're not. I don't think the Big 217 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.320 twelve is like that. No, but SEC is like that. 218 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.120 Yeah yeah, the. 219 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:27.120 Big ten isn't so much like that. 220 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:30.440 Yeah, but the SEC and okay, SEC, you know what, 221 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.200 take your sixteen teams, have your own little league, have 222 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.639 your own NFL, and if you want to call yourself 223 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:38.000 and give us the Big ten, we'll play the Big ten. 224 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:40.559 What's that song you kids play? They're not like us? 225 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:41.720 What's that? Who sayds? 226 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:42.200 Oh? 227 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:45.519 Yeah, they're not like us. It's Kendrick Yeah, Kendrick Lamar. Yeah. 228 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:50.080 Yeah, I'm sick of their their crap. I'm really I know, 229 00:09:50.120 --> 00:09:52.759 I get it. I get it, especially in football basketball. 230 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:54.600 You know they have this little great year. Okay, I 231 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:56.440 have you a great year, but you still. 232 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.159 You know well, I mean I remember a couple of 233 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:00.799 weeks ago I saw I think on the boards his name, 234 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:03.159 the Alabama head Cooks yeah, and he was like, well, 235 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:04.799 we should have got a shot to get in. And 236 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.240 it's like, well, dude, you were nine and three and 237 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:07.399 you lost to a six and six. 238 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:09.879 Yeah, you got you what you do? 239 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:10.440 You know what I mean? 240 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.600 And that's what I'm saying. Yeah, just because we're Alabama. 241 00:10:13.639 --> 00:10:16.440 We're better than you for no other reason. No, no, 242 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:17.519 you had you shot you blew it? 243 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:23.159 Yeah, move on exactly. Okay, so again have you I 244 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:26.440 just have to say hello, Hello, Jay? 245 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:27.639 You know what? 246 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:28.440 Don't say hello? 247 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:31.279 It said I'm on the show once a week and 248 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.720 I get all this pent up stuff by Friday, and 249 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.559 it's all it's I'm just like I'm a I'm a 250 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:37.519 ticking time bomb. 251 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:37.679 Man. 252 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.039 Gabrielle, You're going to heaven a lot of times. She's 253 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:41.039 been gone since Monday. 254 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:45.159 Well, got your pent up. She's been gone since Monday. 255 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.039 I've been cooking for myself. The dishes are the sink 256 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:48.960 is full of dishes. 257 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:51.440 You know I've got I've got to take it out 258 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:54.879 on the SEC. There's three cats at my house who 259 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:59.039 don't talk to me. I needed a guess today. That's 260 00:10:59.039 --> 00:10:59.639 why you're here. 261 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.200 It's tough man. Yeah, Well we'll see what happens. We 262 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:06.919 had Tommy Lloyd yesterday. I don't know if you saw 263 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:09.120 any of that. We haven't written anything. No one's really 264 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:12.360 written much about it. Uh just you know, yeah, it 265 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:14.080 was thirty minutes of Tommy Lloyd. 266 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:15.799 You know, he got on me a couple of times. 267 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:16.840 What did you do? 268 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:17.720 Uh? 269 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:18.759 Where? 270 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.960 Well, your son Adam was kind of the moderator, right, 271 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:22.320 and we wanted he wanted to kind of end it 272 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:25.080 with about twenty two minutes. And I asked one of 273 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:28.279 like last question and asked him about something I can't 274 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.440 remember what it was. And he says, no, I'll say. 275 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.799 He says, well, you're buying lunch, you know, just flipping 276 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:34.879 you buy lunch. Yeah, I'll bring in snork noggs. And 277 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.000 I gave him like, I don't want that I want 278 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:38.759 and he looked at me, you don't like snorre dogs. 279 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:40.799 I said not really. He said, you don't like snor 280 00:11:42.399 --> 00:11:43.960 any kind of went back and I said, could you 281 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.120 answer the question? He said, hold on, I'm kind of 282 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.360 thinking just through. Yeah, I'm thinking I don't need hot dogs. 283 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.519 I just don't like him. And so that was that, 284 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:54.960 and then I asked him a question I guess he 285 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.480 liked or didn't like, kind of about Caleb. 286 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.480 Right. I don't see very many, if any mock drafts 287 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.360 anywhere saying that he's gonna be in the NBA or 288 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:04.200 get drafted. 289 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:06.399 He took kind of offense to my question. I don't 290 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.440 think I praised it incorrectly, but he who you talking to? 291 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.399 I'm thinking he says, well, the people I'm talking to 292 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.159 say is, well, you probably know more people than me. 293 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.440 But he says he's going to be in the NBA. Okay, 294 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:20.600 about three four minutes later he kind of he's gonna 295 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:22.960 get a chance to be in the NBA. There's a difference. 296 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:23.960 There is a difference. 297 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:24.679 He'll get a chance. 298 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:26.240 He'll get I have no doubt about that. He'll get 299 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.200 a chance, no doubt about that. He'll get He'll sign 300 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:30.279 a free agent, he'll go somewhere. He'll be on the court, 301 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.919 no question. The question does he make g J McConnell 302 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:36.320 went that went that route right, and look what he's doing. 303 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:40.480 Two different players. The point being I get draft. 304 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.200 I get you give me a one off. I know, 305 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:43.919 I know, I know he is, but you know he 306 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:47.679 didn't get drafted. He will have the opportunity. And when 307 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:52.480 you're Caleb Love, that's all you can ask and give 308 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:53.840 me a chance to get on the court. 309 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.759 He brought up his player at Zaga, the guard at Indiana. Uh, 310 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:02.840 tell me pretty good, guard. He's playing very well right now, 311 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:07.840 and hey, I wouldn't doubt Caleb Love is capable. It's 312 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:10.840 just that I'm saying nobody else out there projecting, he's not. 313 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.159 You know, he's not projecting. And he wasn't invited to 314 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:13.759 any of the. 315 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:17.000 Camps right or to the things the G League camp 316 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.480 that's the G League combine. But that's the point. Yeah, No, 317 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:22.519 I hear you, and I'm not trying to. I just 318 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:23.600 I just asked the question. 319 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:25.960 Well, the thing about Caleb Love is that there's a 320 00:13:25.960 --> 00:13:29.000 lot of guys like him, guys about his height who 321 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:33.919 can shoot and candle can and do those things. The 322 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:35.480 guys that make are the guys that have something that 323 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:37.360 stands out. 324 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.679 For For P PJ, t J. 325 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.840 McConnell, it was his his court sense, his court awareness, leadership, 326 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:45.679 his selfishness, his leadership, and all those things. 327 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.440 Added up to I brought this, you know, being able 328 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:49.440 to overcome. 329 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:53.360 His kind of average athletic ability. 330 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:56.320 So I brought this up to Sean ten years ago, 331 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.639 whatever TG was going on, So what do you think 332 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.679 and what about him playing? And he talked about this 333 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:02.360 is he's going to be in the NBA, and we 334 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:05.519 all kind of looked, yeah, really. 335 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.320 What are you are you looking at the same TJ 336 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:09.879 where you're looking at it right exactly And he's defending 337 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:11.000 his guy, but he. 338 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.399 Was he was playing out flat out right. When we 339 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:16.799 were leaving the thing yesterday. Yesterday I told Sheer, I says, 340 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:18.639 you know, I asked Sean the same thing, and we 341 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.320 were kind of skeptical, right, so do you think he says. 342 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.440 Well, well, here, here's the thing is that the NBA, 343 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:29.679 what they do is they draw out. So it's right, 344 00:14:29.960 --> 00:14:33.240 they they draw If the talent is there, they draw 345 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:33.559 it out. 346 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:35.360 And they were able to draw it out of TJ. 347 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.240 And and they do that with guys all the time. 348 00:14:37.440 --> 00:14:40.240 If Caleb has a certain talent or a certain level 349 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:42.919 of talent that they're looking for, they'll dig it out 350 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:45.639 and then he's in. But if he doesn't have anything 351 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.039 special like that, then he won't. 352 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:52.200 Yeah, we'll see. I think the chances are very like, hey, uh, 353 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:54.559 it's like, we asked questions. 354 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.000 That's what we're paid to do, right year, paid to 355 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.879 answer questions. It was not a question I'm skeptical that 356 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:02.320 he's gonna it was just what do you think? 357 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:04.360 What do you think? What do you think, what the 358 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.200 hell the wife, Well, he made an assumption that you 359 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:07.960 were saying, you don't think so. 360 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.080 No, no, yeah, no no, And that's how he listened 361 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:12.720 to it. And I'm thinking I was thinking nobody else 362 00:15:12.759 --> 00:15:15.320 out there in the box stuff and all that are 363 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.720 projecting him. Hey, I don't care if he does or 364 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:20.919 he doesn't. He's just a question. Yeah, I hope he does. Okay, 365 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:22.960 we gotta go. 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Just search Ie on the ball. 466 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:26.839 Hey, welcome back to Whining the Ball here on Fox 467 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:29.240 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me today 468 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:32.000 is Jay Gonzalez. You got ready at the controls. Now 469 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.920 we have your morales from All Sports two Sun dot 470 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:37.000 com in Omaha. 471 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:41.440 What's the vibe like, Well, you know, tough game, I mean, 472 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.680 Arizona battle. It's just that they had two outs in 473 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:49.079 the eighth inning and then that blue double that just 474 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:51.279 falls right inside the line. Is the baseball is a 475 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:55.759 crazy game. And then right after that, you know, an 476 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.200 intentional walk and then and then a hit, and then 477 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:02.920 you bring clue in and uh put. 478 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:06.359 In and and he you know you Chip Hal put. 479 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:08.920 Him in there to stop, to stop to just a 480 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.599 one run deficit, and then the guy had the two 481 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:12.839 run uh. 482 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:15.839 Double off them. So it's it's just one of those games. 483 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.599 And Arizona's proven before they have the result to bounce 484 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:23.240 back after a disappointing the first game of a series 485 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.559 or of a playoff situation. You know, no better example 486 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:29.319 than last week when they lost eighteen to two to 487 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.119 North Carolina. So they know what buttons to push and 488 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.559 what what to do to respond to this kind of thing. 489 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:39.440 It's only it's different though now because. 490 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:39.880 They're they're in a. 491 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:44.119 Four team like double elemation part of brackets, so they. 492 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:46.359 It's not just winning another couple of games. They have 493 00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:48.880 to win, you know, win like three more games to 494 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.640 head onto the championship round, you know what I mean. 495 00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:54.279 So it's a little different, but they know how to 496 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:56.799 respond to adversity. We'll see what they do on Sunday 497 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.400 against Oregon State or Louisville. 498 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:04.000 So is there any anything the second guess on that? 499 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.720 I mean, look, you brought in your closer to to 500 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:08.200 to end the ending. I mean, I don't see any 501 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:10.319 wrong with that move that you know are people's second guess. 502 00:22:10.359 --> 00:22:12.799 Maybe you should come in a little sooner you said, 503 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.559 like you said, it's baseball. The guy neardy hits one 504 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:18.359 off the dirt and lands it on the line in 505 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:20.880 right field, you know, with two outs, and then and 506 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.119 then it blows up. I mean, is there anything the 507 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.319 second guess? I don't feel like there is, because, like 508 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:26.839 you said, it's just baseball. 509 00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:28.119 That's what happens. 510 00:22:28.759 --> 00:22:30.839 Yeah, I think there is the second guessing that if 511 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:33.640 Pluto wasn't as as dominant he's been, I think in 512 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:36.400 this situation like that, you do want do you put 513 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:40.319 the fire out? And he's used to that, so uh, 514 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:41.960 you know, I don't think I don't think you can 515 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.559 really fault Kevin Vance for putting him in, uh and 516 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.799 make them mistake. Advanced makes it call the shots on 517 00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:50.960 fishing decisions and Chip Hale goes out there and does 518 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.240 the you know, the switch. But uh, it's uh, I 519 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:58.160 think in that situation it's successful, especially because the way 520 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.519 Pluto has been touching. If Pluta has had like an 521 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:03.759 inconsistent year and you do that and you put your 522 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:06.519 closer in, then it's then it's you know, you can 523 00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:08.039 you can nippick and argue. 524 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:10.319 But I think that was the propriate there. 525 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.759 I know you're a hicks Is pitching Well man, he was. 526 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.480 Rolling until that double hit that you know that. 527 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.279 That little blue double down the line. 528 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:18.880 Yeah. 529 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:21.240 No, he came in, got out of that situation. What 530 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:25.200 out basics on one, based on third, and he gets 531 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.680 those guys to strike out twice. What a fantastic finish there, 532 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:31.240 and then God, now what's the vibe in terms of 533 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:33.119 now they got you, they can't lose. 534 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.839 Yeah, you know, like I said earlier, they you can 535 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:41.319 look at it both ways. You know, they they lose 536 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:44.519 or they struggle in the opening game or opening weekend, 537 00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:47.839 either in the regular season or in the playoffs, and 538 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.519 they bounce back and finished wrong. So uh, you know, 539 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:54.359 one one then the pessimistic. 540 00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:55.200 Person and say why why. 541 00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:57.400 Aren't they ready when they start these series or the 542 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.240 post game weekend. 543 00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:01.680 But on the other hand, they come. 544 00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:03.359 Back and rally and and you. 545 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:06.240 Know, complete the jobs. So now it's like I said, 546 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:07.039 it's a little bit. 547 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.480 Different challenge, but they've proven they can do it. So 548 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:13.599 I think the vibe when they when Madonnas Guzman and 549 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.759 Owen Kramkowski and Mason White walked in the press room, 550 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.759 it wasn't doom and gloom. They weren't like they weren't 551 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:22.400 like down at all. You can tell that they had 552 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.200 kind of like an anger or or like a you know, 553 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:31.440 a look of determination instead of a look of defeats. 554 00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:36.920 Message was the main message, Chips. 555 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.599 Yeah, his main message was all business. 556 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:39.799 Now. 557 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:42.759 It's you know, they when you get when you get here, 558 00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.160 it's a lot of you know, a lot of hype 559 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.960 and a lot of you know, family involvement and doing 560 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:50.960 a lot of different things with family, and he kind 561 00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:54.079 of stressed, like now it's down to business completely. They 562 00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:57.759 do have some kind of team function tomorrow with involved 563 00:24:57.799 --> 00:24:59.920 with cook Calls World Series, but he said they look 564 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.119 forward or practicing and focusing on what they got to 565 00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:06.240 do because, uh, you know, it could be a distraction 566 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:08.640 here with a lot of things going on, but he 567 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.119 wants to reel it in and he kind of had 568 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.000 that mentality, and he said that more than ones that 569 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.720 they're fighters and they'll still keep on fighting and they 570 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.599 know they know how to how to face adversity. They've 571 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.359 done it before, so it's kind of has he has 572 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:29.000 that result, he has that confidence about him rather than 573 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.200 being like, you know, feeling down or feeling sorry about 574 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.519 what just happened, or being overly upset about what happened 575 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:38.240 during the game. 576 00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.279 Well, you know, I mean their backs against the wall. 577 00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:44.640 I mean this, it's it's hard, and it's it's especially 578 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:47.519 hard difficult to you know, come back when it's not 579 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.599 just that you got to get through the double elimination bracket, 580 00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.279 but then after that you got to win two out 581 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.359 of three. You know, I'll point out to I'm an 582 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:55.480 old guy and I remember this, you know, when Arizona 583 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.200 won its first National Championship they lost. It was an 584 00:25:58.200 --> 00:26:01.200 eight team double elimination brand, so you didn't have the 585 00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:02.119 best two out of three. 586 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.000 But Arizona lost the opener to a SU. 587 00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.279 Of all teams, that was the seventh time that ASU 588 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:10.640 had beaten them in that years seventy six, a SU 589 00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.279 had beat them seven times. That made the seventh time 590 00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:16.319 ASU beat them. Arizona was oz and seven against a SU. 591 00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.480 Came back through the loser's bracket, played ASU again to 592 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:23.240 get into the championship and beat them, and they're still 593 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.000 but hurt about that one because they feel like, well, 594 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:27.960 we beat you seven times and then all you had 595 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:29.160 to do is beat us once and now you're in 596 00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:29.759 the championship. 597 00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.599 We said, well, should have beat us the eighth time, 598 00:26:31.599 --> 00:26:32.160 and you didn't. 599 00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.000 So you know it can happen, but it's it's less 600 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:39.000 likely when you got to come back through the four 601 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.759 team double imination bracket and then you got to win 602 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:42.440 two out of three. 603 00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.680 It's tough on the pitching, so it's. 604 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.480 Gonna be hard, but you know, hey, you give it 605 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:49.079 your shot, right, I mean, like you said, these guys 606 00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:49.599 are gonna fight. 607 00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:54.720 Yeah, pitching, you mentioned the pitching. If you're going to 608 00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.720 be playing these amount of games in less than a week. 609 00:26:58.319 --> 00:26:59.920 It comes down to pitching that there is on a 610 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.000 have the pitching right to withstand all that. I think 611 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.960 their bullpen has been has been solid and can rise 612 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:08.920 up to it, but the starting pitching is still a 613 00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:13.160 little bit questionable. Uh Owen Owen Kremkowski, he battled his 614 00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.839 way out of some jams today, so give up nine hits, 615 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.160 but you know he had seven strack ups in one walk, 616 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:20.400 so it's kind of like up and down. 617 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.119 Yeah, And then uh, you know you got uh. 618 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:27.319 Smith Bailey who's a freshman. You know, Chip hal says 619 00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:29.079 many times he's know a sophomore because of all the 620 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.559 you know, long season, but you know he hasn't he 621 00:27:31.559 --> 00:27:34.039 hasn't pitched yet in Omaha. And then you then you 622 00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:39.880 got Rol Gottaza, who's gonna most likely pitch tomorrow or Sunday. 623 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.839 I'm sorry, and so not to sure, not sure what 624 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:46.480 you're gonna expect that as him what with what Chip 625 00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:49.000 wants is basically what he got from Owen today, about 626 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:53.039 five six and keep the team close and see what 627 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.599 happens if if Arizona can do that against Oregon State 628 00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.640 or Louisville. Then I'm sure he likes their chances, so 629 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.720 it's a big responsibility for a Roule. And then maybe 630 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.319 Casey Kasey hints and then Garrett Hicks again, although they 631 00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.839 use both those guys today. But now now it's it's 632 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.480 now now it's do or die, so it's really you 633 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:19.440 don't you really can't hold back. So it's gonna be uh, 634 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.839 it's gonna be interesting to see what how Arizona handles 635 00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.480 that tension. It's a little bit of a type of 636 00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.359 a different tension here. Yeah, it's College World Series, but 637 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.119 they have been able to handle it before, so they 638 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:31.960 at least they have that going for him, and Mason 639 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.079 White touched on that in the post game also, so 640 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.079 they know, they talk about it, they know that they 641 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:37.599 can do this. 642 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:39.799 So let me say, I haven't covered this team or 643 00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.759 followed this team very much this year. You have, I'm 644 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:44.319 not sure about Jay, but let me just say this, 645 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.400 if you're an Arizona baseball fan, how the hell do 646 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.000 you survive? Every game that I've seen is like, they 647 00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.000 take the lead, they lose the lead. You take the lead, 648 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:53.519 they lose the lead, and then they either win or 649 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:55.480 they lose. It in the bottom. You know what I'm saying. 650 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:58.519 It's hard, Yeah, stressful. 651 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:01.279 Yeah, even that three to two when. 652 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.160 They had on cal Paulie opened up the Eugene Regional, 653 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.920 they only had two hits name and then the next 654 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.680 two games they had with thirty two hits and fourteen 655 00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:13.000 home runs in the in the blowouts against utile Valan 656 00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:13.559 cal Pauli. 657 00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:14.920 So it's kind of. 658 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.880 Yeah, it is, it is. You're you're you don't know. 659 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.079 What to expect, really, you do you you kind of 660 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:22.880 expect them to rally back. So that's a lot of 661 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.160 people are expecting on Sunday, and they did. 662 00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:28.000 But they did today, well, they did today. They got 663 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:34.000 too on to two hits. No, uh, the why the 664 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:35.680 why the pinch. 665 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:41.480 Hitter percentages with the lefty and righty you know, I 666 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.319 you know you got it like brifle although right, I 667 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.799 mean that's one thing he could you could question and. 668 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:54.920 Her Yeah, as a lefty right thing, I'm sure. 669 00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.880 Yeah, he just felt like it was the best possible 670 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.559 thing and he he thought it was a that bat 671 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.599 for him and then Summer Hill grounded grounds out. 672 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.000 That's that's you know, you get the seven eight nine 673 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.200 guys to give you a chance and then your leadoff 674 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.359 hereter comes and hits into a double play and you 675 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:11.680 just go. 676 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:13.640 That was tough. 677 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.079 Yeah, I'm sure it was frusting to. 678 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:16.759 Watch on TV. 679 00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:19.359 Yeah, being here a little different. 680 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.599 Because you're here the crowd, noise, and it's just a 681 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.079 little different field. But if I was watching this game 682 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.200 on TV, I would have been very frustrated as an 683 00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:30.839 Arizona If I was an Arizona fan watching the game 684 00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:32.680 and must have been frustrating. 685 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.599 Let me ask you because you mentioned this on social media, 686 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:38.319 and you know, you're an old guy like us now 687 00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:39.960 even though I knew you, you know when you're a 688 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.240 nice But I looked at the graphic of announcing that 689 00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:43.880 people on the show today and there's just nothing but 690 00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.000 old guys on that. Yeah, because you you you hands 691 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:52.000 And anyways, I digress. You mentioned that you hadn't had 692 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.000 a chance to cover a college world series. What what's 693 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.839 just what's Steve mentioned? 694 00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:58.359 What's the vibe? What's it like over there? 695 00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:00.960 It seems just a great event and just a cool 696 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.000 celebratory kind of thing. 697 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:08.680 Yeah, it's it's a it's like a festival. Even in 698 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.960 the beyond the centerfold wall, there's a you know, there's 699 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:16.559 like a carnival going on, and it's it's, uh, you 700 00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.400 got more than twenty about twenty five thousand fans from 701 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.200 eight different schools here, plus Omaha people. It's it's their things, 702 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.319 so they treat it with the utmost you know, the 703 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.680 hospital way, hospitality way, and. 704 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.880 It's it's just so far, it's been. 705 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.599 It's been everything I thought it would be, just because 706 00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:43.200 of the fan involvement in the atmosphere. You imagine a 707 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.519 you know, it's kind of like a Final four. And 708 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.000 I've been a few Final fours because you have all 709 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.359 these different fans from different schools and it's at one 710 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.519 event and there's a fan fast here. It's just like 711 00:31:54.519 --> 00:32:00.640 the Final four. So it's it's definitely worth the experience 712 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:05.319 if you can make it here. You know, Arizona's here. 713 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:07.039 That's why I'm here. I don't know if I'd be 714 00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:08.640 able to make it here if it's just teams that 715 00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.119 I didn't have any otherning interests or a much. 716 00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:12.839 How they travel. Did they travel. 717 00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:17.319 Well Arizona had I would say they Arizona close to 718 00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.480 Carolina had about the same amount of people, you know, 719 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.240 I think at least what five thousand each at least 720 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.960 in that ballpark. Figure, there was a lot of people 721 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.480 here with Arizona. When I was traveling yesterday on American airlines, 722 00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.680 there are a lot of Arizona shirts. There was some 723 00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:40.440 UCLA fans too, which kind of surprised me. But yeah, there, there, there, there, 724 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:42.920 there's a lot of people from Tucson here. You see them, 725 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:43.839 see a lot of them. 726 00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:45.599 Remind me of not. 727 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:48.200 As much as Las Vegas with a Pac twelve tournament, 728 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.839 but you see all those U of A fans, and 729 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.279 it's they get the sense that they do travel. 730 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.839 Well, yeah, okay, Well we'll see what happens on Sunday. 731 00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.200 It's at eleven o'clock, I think, great, same time. Yeah, 732 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:03.799 and who they play? So now it's momentum time because 733 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:09.079 they gotta get it. They don't have uncle oo right now, 734 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:10.640 so we'll see if they. 735 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.039 Can get it. 736 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:12.359 Yeah. 737 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.880 Yeah, I took a left and I'm on. 738 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.000 Okay, So hey, I thank you have We'll talk to 739 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.880 you next week and see what's going on. All right, great, 740 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:24.000 take care? Yeah, thank you, thank you Ray for letting 741 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:25.559 us know. We got to go, and then we'll talk. 742 00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:27.880 Maybe take some calls on a lot of different If 743 00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:30.079 you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been 744 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.039 successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look back 745 00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.720 at the Ludolsen era. In my new book, Lessons from Loot, 746 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.279 it was a labor of love. 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If you like to call, please 789 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.840 do five two zero four one six seventy four forty real. 790 00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.679 Thanks for the phone for us. Yes, okay, hopefully we 791 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.320 just messed up on Monday. That's that's a computer thing. 792 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:02.719 Oh yeah, yeah, we're good, right, good, We're good good, Okay. 793 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:06.159 So, uh well, I think you know, look, look, Chip 794 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:06.760 Hale is. 795 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:10.360 From the time that he you know, he was here 796 00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.679 as a player, you know, all through his career as 797 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.320 a player and manager and coach. The guy's a fighter, 798 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.000 and you expect that his team is going to take 799 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:24.480 on that, uh the personal personality, that mentality that they're saying. Okay, 800 00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:26.480 you know, it's it's a little harder, but we're still 801 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:29.880 gonna come out here and and good luck playing us. 802 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:30.360 Yeah. 803 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.000 Well, let me say this. I know you're you're pro Arizona. 804 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:36.639 Last week when they got their butts handed to them 805 00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.360 eighteen and two, you were still Hey, it's. 806 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.159 One game we had that conversation the. 807 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.760 Same time, same place, and you were confident they'd be okay, 808 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.760 at least they would give it good. Could be yeah, 809 00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:49.679 that they were gonna give a good and they did 810 00:36:49.800 --> 00:36:51.440 and then and they want and then they won again. 811 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:53.760 There's no doubt that they're going to do that right 812 00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.400 right Sunday, no matter who they play right now. They 813 00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.400 just got to do it in that cliche form. Yeah, 814 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.400 one day, one pitch at a time, exactly. 815 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:05.159 And you know what if that's that's got to be 816 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.199 the approach. And that was the approach last week, you know, 817 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.679 after that beating that they took. But we sat here 818 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.239 and said, yeah, because it's baseball, you know, anything can happen. 819 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:17.039 You go out and win the next day. And now 820 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:18.760 you got a chance, and you can win the next one. 821 00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:21.360 And they did and then they and look they were 822 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.960 losing late in the in that game three against North 823 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:25.880 Carolina and and then went and put it away. 824 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.760 And not to say that North Carolina's not good, because 825 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.639 they're very good. In fact, their favorite to beat the 826 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:34.599 Arizona as South as Carolina Coastal was today right. Uh, 827 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:38.760 who Arizona faces, they're all good, no matter who, doesn't 828 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:41.480 matter it's they're all good, and that's they're not playing 829 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.440 whatever po dunk baseball time. Well, yeah, they're playing teams 830 00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:47.800 that are very, very good and under the same situation 831 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:49.760 saying we gotta win the what's. 832 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.280 Clos one, twenty three, twenty four in a row or somebody, 833 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.400 it's crazy, you gotta call hello, you're on the air 834 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:55.880 nine the ball? 835 00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:56.239 Who's this? 836 00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:58.320 Hey Steve? 837 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:00.960 Hey Jay? This is Donnie, Hey don what's the word? 838 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:06.480 But well, yeah, it's sad the way that it ended. 839 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:11.559 But Arizona had its chance. Sure, you know, it's like, uh, 840 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:17.800 it was like right at the in the in the 841 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.039 seventh inning of the of the North Carolina game on Sunday, 842 00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.800 I forgot who I responded to on act I go, 843 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.039 Arizona's in a great spot right here. We just got 844 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.400 to get a couple of guys, you know, put a 845 00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:31.960 couple of hits together and we could win this thing. 846 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:36.599 And they did that today. You know, the one good 847 00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:42.719 thing today was Kramkowski was dealing. Yeah better, he pitched 848 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.440 really good because I had I didn't get a chance 849 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.519 to see it because I'm working today. Well I didn't 850 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.119 officially get a chance to see it. 851 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:50.320 But. 852 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.159 Started when he started last Friday. That boy was soaking 853 00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.159 wet and he was sweating and he was you know, 854 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.880 and I thow, man, it must be humid. And he 855 00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.800 was the only one. He was the only sweaty one 856 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:07.760 out there. So at the end of by the time 857 00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.119 he came out, he was like, man, his nerves got him, 858 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:10.679 you know. 859 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:12.880 But he came back, he battled back, and. 860 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.920 He did what he had to do. Our boat pens 861 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.840 still intact for the next three four games. For the 862 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.800 next three games at least we got a day's rest 863 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.320 in between, so that that means well. 864 00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:27.880 It seems to me, Matt, Donny you watch it all 865 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:29.519 the time and it's something that I referred to with 866 00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.920 the Haavier. This team, it would seem get ten runs 867 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:38.239 and you're good. He's just it's tough, I guess because 868 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.199 they're you know what I'm saying, you got to get 869 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:42.719 some some cushion and just haven't been able to do 870 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.000 that in the games I've seen this. 871 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:51.800 This team is not They're not a steamroller team. They'll 872 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.760 have a good inning, yeah, they'll have a good inning. 873 00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.519 They won't have they don't use it. They don't put 874 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.679 up a lot of knock you out of here innings, 875 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.119 you know, not a lot of six run innings. You know, 876 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.079 like like last year we had a little bit more 877 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.960 of that this year. You know, they got to keep 878 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.599 it close and they got to stay within striking distance. 879 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.280 And today, you know, with three runs and wanted bat 880 00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.119 to do it, it's just not enough time. And then 881 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.639 with Summer Hill, I didn't. I wasn't feeling good with 882 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:23.920 Summer Hill coming up the bat because since he broke 883 00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:28.079 his hand against West Virginia, he hasn't he hasn't struck 884 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.519 the ball well at all. It's almost like he's got 885 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:36.519 the yips in golf. You know, he he had he 886 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.880 hasn't put a good snap on the ball in a 887 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.800 long time. I mean he had he had a home 888 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.719 run the other day, but you know those those type 889 00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.960 of shots are few and far between right now, and 890 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.159 it's he's almost it's almost like he's playing his way 891 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:50.280 into a senior season. 892 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.800 Yeah. Well, you know, you made a good point. 893 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.159 And somebody, you know, I texted somebody because they were 894 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.440 talking about, you know, how tough this was, What a 895 00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.960 tough game this was, you know, against against close soth Carolina. 896 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.079 I made the point, they're really good. No they are. 897 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.000 They lost. They're really damn good. 898 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:08.239 The pitcher was good, you know, and you know and 899 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:10.880 clearly the you know, the coach made a good move 900 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:12.639 to take the starting pitcher out when he did. 901 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.760 But this is a good team. 902 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.320 And you know, we want to say they're not, well 903 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.519 they are, you know, just because they're not in the 904 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:20.000 SEC or whatever. 905 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.800 They're a good team. 906 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:27.360 Well, and that's you know, today, it was a great game. 907 00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.920 It was a good ball game all all, all the 908 00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.639 way through. You know, it's this is the type of 909 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:34.920 game that people that don't watch baseball, they go, gosh, 910 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.559 that was a terrible game. You know, it's boring. Was boring, 911 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:41.719 it was. It was a super game, you know. And 912 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.440 and like you said, and like you said, Jay, you 913 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:50.559 know they're in Omaha, right. We got eight really good teams. 914 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.400 No matter what the records are, no matter where they 915 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.079 finished in their in their conferences, whatever the case may be. 916 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.199 You know, you got eight really good teams that had 917 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.760 to play some really good ball to get here, and 918 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:04.679 you're gonna have to play your butt off to get out. 919 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:05.519 Yeah, no question. 920 00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:08.480 The one thing that struck me was their pitcher. Their 921 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.000 starter was like their third best dude, they didn't go 922 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.039 and when they bought in the reliever, they didn't bring 923 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:14.840 in the best reliever. 924 00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:17.800 They brought in the two. And that's what it is. 925 00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:20.159 It's just how you feel and what you go with 926 00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:21.400 that day of the of the game. 927 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.039 Yeah, and that and that might not have been what 928 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:29.559 you know, they may you know, they may have may 929 00:42:29.960 --> 00:42:32.159 have thought they needed to bring the number one starter, 930 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:35.960 but maybe the adjustments at Arizona made said, you know what, 931 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:39.280 maybe this guy's better against these guys. Yeah, maybe maybe 932 00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.599 our number two guy is better than our number one 933 00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.119 guy if these guys are going to sit on fastballs, 934 00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.280 because that's that's what our other guy does. And that's 935 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:49.000 what you got to do as a coach. You got 936 00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.920 to be able to you know, move your chess pieces 937 00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:54.679 and everything. But I still think that, uh, you know, 938 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.079 our boat pen is still intact. The only one that 939 00:42:58.159 --> 00:42:59.840 can pitched for a few days is going to be 940 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.719 ram Kowski. But if we get into next you know, 941 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.519 early next week, he can go again and and and 942 00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:10.199 pitching wise, we're fine. You know, it's just putting those 943 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.440 hits together, you know, keeping them close and putting the 944 00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:15.360 hits together. That's what we're gonna have to do. We're 945 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.559 gonna have to play this type of ball the whole way. 946 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.239 Through, without question. Yeah, without question. Okay, Don, thanks, thanks 947 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:22.280 a bunch, Thanks for the call. 948 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:24.280 Good good times. 949 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.119 Yeah, it's still fun. Yep, thanks always fun. 950 00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:29.239 Yeah, have a good one, guy. 951 00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.639 You think we have time for a couple more calls 952 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:33.079 if you'd like to call on five to two oho 953 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.280 four one six seventy four forty. I know it's a 954 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.440 good day when Vic doesn't text me to say fire Chip. 955 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.599 He didn't do that today. Same. I like you know 956 00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.280 what you know. What I like about Chip is that 957 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.000 he's just a ball player. Yeah, he's just a ballplayer 958 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:49.519 to me. 959 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.239 We had this conversation and you would know this too 960 00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.519 because you were in that era. Uh and I wasn't. 961 00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:57.440 I was not here yet. Chip's just like a dude. 962 00:43:57.519 --> 00:43:59.159 He's a dude. It's just a dude. Did you hear 963 00:43:59.239 --> 00:43:59.679 us yesterday? 964 00:43:59.800 --> 00:43:59.880 No? 965 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:03.000 Here, here, Here's a dude thing. Okay. This comes from 966 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:05.719 just having, you know, having local knowledge. Right. His mother 967 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:06.960 in law owned. 968 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.119 She's like mother in law, but a nice lady owned 969 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.800 the elementary school where my kids went to school called 970 00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.280 Castle Hill over here right next to it. Yeah, yeah, 971 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:18.360 she owned it and ran it in the off season. 972 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.000 Chip was the lawn boy. He'd go over there and hid. 973 00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.000 He was the guy who was cutting the grass and 974 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.400 you see him the mower and stuff like that. 975 00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:29.679 Chip Halee, he's the manager of a. 976 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.920 Major league Because we'll talk about it in a second, 977 00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:33.679 we'll get another call. Well, you're on the air and 978 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:34.199 I on the ball. 979 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:40.400 Yeah, always the other side of the coin, Howard, don't 980 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:42.159 depress us, Yeah, Howard. 981 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.480 Well, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna speak truth is what 982 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:49.119 you're talking about. First of all, major League baseball is 983 00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.679 going on. And o Wan who left us, didn't he 984 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.639 he's any of the guy that says I don't like 985 00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:55.840 college baseball. 986 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.320 I'm going to second that. 987 00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.559 But they used wood bats too, because I heard some 988 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.159 of the bats. They sound like they use wood bats 989 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:05.960 also in college. No, none of those guys use wood beats. 990 00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:07.960 And if you're but I heard the sound. 991 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:11.360 Well, even though bats can be made wood bat I mean, uh, 992 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:15.360 metal bats can be made to sound like wood bats. 993 00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.679 They make them that way on purpose. 994 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.280 If you're if you're a coach, if you're a college 995 00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.960 baseball coach and your guy wants to go hit a 996 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:23.679 wood bat. 997 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.400 You sit him on the bench, you say we're gonna 998 00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:26.719 have somebody bat for you. 999 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.159 Because there's no wood there's no wood bat that's better. 1000 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.360 Than a than a metal bat. 1001 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:36.840 Okay, that said, I went over to Buffalo wild Wings 1002 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:41.239 to watch the Cubs. That's the first and foremost and ever, 1003 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:42.119 of course everyone was. 1004 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:45.679 Watching them Wildcats. The Wildcats were on the majority of 1005 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:46.079 the people. 1006 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.519 But to me, that's not even that wasn't even the 1007 00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.000 second best thing on because of course I was watching 1008 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:51.599 the US. 1009 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.079 Open too, oh man, And that was gonna be some 1010 00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:54.360 of my. 1011 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.000 Questions to Jay about who that South African Lawrence guy 1012 00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.239 is And I guess that's spawned guy. 1013 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:01.519 Guess is he's an American. 1014 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:06.719 And right now Sam sam Burgs is in first place. 1015 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.760 So you got a dark horse for moving day tomorrow. 1016 00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:13.039 Joe, Well, I've I've got Ben Griffin. 1017 00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:17.519 Uh he's he's yeah, he's tied for fourth right now. 1018 00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:22.440 He's had top tens in his last three tournaments, including 1019 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:23.039 the PGA. 1020 00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.280 Uh he's got a win in there. 1021 00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:25.880 Uh. 1022 00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:26.800 He's my guy. 1023 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.599 I've been watching him all day and he's he's he's 1024 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:31.800 even going to eighteen. 1025 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.360 Uh, he's tied for fourth. 1026 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:35.440 I like him. I like him a lot. The Shamble's 1027 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.880 going to miss the cut. Rory's on the cut line, 1028 00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.159 So it's my guy. Phil's gonna make a cut. 1029 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:47.400 He's your guy. Oh man, better be a better guy 1030 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:47.719 than that. 1031 00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.000 No, No, Phil's great and and he because it's the 1032 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.119 only one hasn't won. But but I agree with you, 1033 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.159 it's whoever wins, it's going to be somebody that's ever 1034 00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:56.760 won it before. 1035 00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.400 Well that none of the none of the big guys 1036 00:46:58.840 --> 00:46:59.159 the top. 1037 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.840 Yeah, you look, you look at the you look at 1038 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:04.599 the leader board, and it's it's none of the guys 1039 00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:06.800 that you would expect right now. 1040 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:08.800 It's gonna be someone that doesn't win. 1041 00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:11.199 So that keeps filling there, someone that's never won the 1042 00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:11.800 US Open. 1043 00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.559 All right, Howard, thanks for the call. You well, have 1044 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.280 a good weekend. Have you follows day? 1045 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:18.119 Yep? 1046 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.519 Yeah? Yeah, father, So you talked about Chip, So we 1047 00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.280 talked about this with Who's with me yesterday? Oh Dave? 1048 00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.480 So so the eighty six years. 1049 00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:29.639 After there was there was Chip On. Just another dude, right, 1050 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.239 another dude, kind of a smart dude. 1051 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:31.519 Right. 1052 00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:33.440 Uh. You have Steve Kerr. 1053 00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.639 One of those dudes, and you had Chuck I mean, 1054 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:38.960 you've must have been kind of like one of those 1055 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:39.719 back in. 1056 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:42.079 Those days, just you had three those same kind of 1057 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.119 the proverbial blue collar programs. 1058 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.639 Yeah, the work as off the guys who they were 1059 00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:49.880 just not they were not great talent, but they were 1060 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:50.400 great talent. 1061 00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.079 They were you know guys who were who were not 1062 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.800 under recruited, uh were, but had you know, had had 1063 00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.760 a level of talent that you could do something with, right. 1064 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:02.440 And then the grit they had, the grit that all 1065 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.960 those guys had, you know. I mean, I like Jerry Kendall, 1066 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:11.559 but he wasn't the Dick Tomy lude Olsen. 1067 00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:13.760 Grit kind of guy. 1068 00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:17.519 I feel like Jerry Kendall was a blue collar guy, 1069 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:18.840 blue collar coach. 1070 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:19.320 I did not. 1071 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.719 I felt he was more of a kind of any 1072 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.880 you know, elite kind of a lot of the players. 1073 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.239 He'd go to LA and get all his players right. 1074 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.000 And I had a beef with him on this that 1075 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:35.400 there were a lot of good, blue collar, hard working 1076 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:40.199 guys in Tucson that never got a sniff from him, right, 1077 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:42.800 that that were coming through PMA College and playing for 1078 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.519 Rich all day or playing at the high schools here 1079 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.239 that he would never recruit because he went and got 1080 00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:51.639 all his guys from LA So I didn't consider him 1081 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:53.880 one of those guys like Dick Whould you know, who 1082 00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.480 would get the lunch Taiale guy. 1083 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.840 Right, But you can't. 1084 00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.559 Argue with the success that he had and it was 1085 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.480 a farming let the work for him, and so it 1086 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.639 worked for him, and so you couldn't debate it, couldn't 1087 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.119 you know, give him a hard time about it. But 1088 00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.760 to me, he was he was less of that. But 1089 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:13.119 in there there were guys like Chip Hale and those 1090 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.159 guys who weren't those kind of blue collar guys who 1091 00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:20.239 came through the program. But and he was and a yeah, 1092 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.920 and he was and again kind of just a regular guy. 1093 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.880 I mentioned, you know, he was the lawn boy at 1094 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:27.360 an elementary school. You know, at the same time he 1095 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:28.440 was a major league manager. 1096 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.679 Well, the reason I say this because I watched over 1097 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.239 the last three games him on the innings, you know, 1098 00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:35.920 when they he's just a self effacing, kind of funny, 1099 00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.920 kind of you know, Steve is that guy Chuck. If 1100 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.159 you get to know Chuck, he's kind of like that guy. 1101 00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.320 You know. Yeah, yeah, whatever, I'm sure that's how it 1102 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:44.840 was back then. 1103 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:46.639 Yeah, yeah, no, that and that that's the kind of 1104 00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.280 athletes that were they were coming through at Arizona and 1105 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.920 they were having success with that because Arizona was a 1106 00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:56.079 place that guys like that could go still is right 1107 00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.320 if they didn't feel like they were getting the attention 1108 00:49:58.480 --> 00:49:59.760 of it. 1109 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:01.599 Is still is. I mean, those are. 1110 00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:03.639 The guys that Arizona's got to make it make its 1111 00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:05.000 old song exactly. 1112 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:07.480 It's not in the upper half, upper part, but it's 1113 00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:08.079 right in the middle. 1114 00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:09.559 And if you can get a bunch of them at 1115 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:13.320 once like they did in eighty six, nineteen eighty. Yeah, 1116 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:16.360 you know, even twenty twelve, you know, the the no 1117 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.440 the n CUAA Championship Ball you know Andy Lopez is 1118 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.880 twenty twelve team, I mean, yeah, yes, uh. 1119 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:24.840 What's it? 1120 00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.599 Reds Snyder has has you know, had a long career 1121 00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.480 in the in the in the major league. 1122 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.239 But who on that twenty twelve team was a superstar? 1123 00:50:33.760 --> 00:50:34.000 Yeah? 1124 00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.599 All right, who's the third basement? I know that he's 1125 00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:39.800 I don't he is breeing. Yeah, you know, he's still 1126 00:50:39.880 --> 00:50:42.519 kicking around in baseball. But there wasn't a you know, 1127 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.239 what's the name Leva Alex Lave I think was his 1128 00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:45.760 name is. 1129 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.639 That, you know. But there wasn't a superstar. No, there 1130 00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:51.480 was just dudes, right, none of none. 1131 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.239 Of those None of those teams had super superstars. Unlike 1132 00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:56.719 one of the best teams that didn't get to the 1133 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:00.559 to the tournament, the eighty nine team was Scott Erickson, J. T. Snow, 1134 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.840 Trevor Hoffman, Lance Dickson. All these guys who made it 1135 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.760 to the major leagues and they were all on this 1136 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.599 one team and didn't get out of the region. 1137 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.679 It's weird how that helped baseball. Well, you have your 1138 00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:15.320 own answer for that. It's based. It's based. It's baseball. Okay, 1139 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:16.800 you got to go right, yep, Okay,