Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out Going Deeper.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a probably a
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Speaker 1: to the show, The Ravishing Rey Ray Ray Ray. How
Speaker 1: are you tonight.
Speaker 2: I'm wonderful, I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you. I may have scared you
Speaker 1: at Exotica a couple of years ago. I don't remember
Speaker 1: if it was last year, a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: where I come up. I think I came up. I go,
Speaker 1: how you doing? I know you, publishist. I was going
Speaker 1: to reach out and you were just like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: talk to her. And it wasn't rude. You weren't rude
Speaker 1: at all. It was. It was fear energy, which I
Speaker 1: apologize for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a very kind veriance. I just know, like
Speaker 2: Erica icon from the rub, she likes it when it
Speaker 2: goes through her. I love podcasts. I love talking about
Speaker 2: this stuff. I love normalizing it. I would be on
Speaker 2: as many as possible, but you know, I do like.
Speaker 1: It to go through her, so totally fair makes makes
Speaker 1: all the sense in the world to me. Have you
Speaker 1: ever seen the movie The Adventures of Bukaroo Bondsi Across
Speaker 1: the Eighth Dimension?
Speaker 2: I have not, so that sounds like a trip, though
Speaker 2: it sounds fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it's you. It's your career. Let me explain
Speaker 1: a little quick tagline. Buccaroo Bonzi a physicist, neurosurgeon, test pilot,
Speaker 1: and rock star save the world by defeating a band
Speaker 1: of blah blah blah aliens. How many hats do you
Speaker 1: wear on a daily basis?
Speaker 2: A lot? So I do it all. So I am
Speaker 2: the producer, the director, the wardrobe coordinator, the prop organizer,
Speaker 2: the script writer, the timekeeper. I decide who I'm hiring,
Speaker 2: who I'm collaborating with. I do it and I'm also talent,
Speaker 2: you know. While trying to you know, act, you know,
Speaker 2: because a lot of my scenes nowadays involve acting and
Speaker 2: have scripts, so you have to, you know, do the
Speaker 2: narrative as well as just the performance part. So and
Speaker 2: I have so many has of right now, you know.
Speaker 2: I just started a new podcast, which we can get
Speaker 2: to at some point. I'm getting a book written about
Speaker 2: how do you It's a how to book on how
Speaker 2: you build a porn brand from the ground up. So
Speaker 2: I'm doing all these things in the shadows A lot
Speaker 2: of people may not see, but yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't sleep a lot. I guess maybe I'm like vampire.
Speaker 2: I get my vintality by like little stints of sleeping
Speaker 2: and then come you know, but that's my drug of choice.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. I just I have a
Speaker 2: lot of energy, a lot of passion for what I do,
Speaker 2: and my main point of well, I have three reasons
Speaker 2: I do what I do. The first one is I'm
Speaker 2: naturally always been a slot. I love sex. I loved
Speaker 2: everything about it since a young age, and I want
Speaker 2: to show other women that it's okay to embrace your sexuality.
Speaker 2: You can be as slutty as you want, and it
Speaker 2: is okay, and but here's how to do it safely.
Speaker 2: But it is okay. Another reason I do what I
Speaker 2: do is to show that a normal, everyday, average looking
Speaker 2: person can do poor. You don't have to change your body,
Speaker 2: you don't have to look a certain way, don't have
Speaker 2: to act a certain way. You can do any kind
Speaker 2: of porn you want to do, and you can be successful.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, the last one is, I just
Speaker 2: want to be known for creating art. I love what
Speaker 2: I create. I put a lot of effort and time
Speaker 2: into what I make. And if I'm not excited or
Speaker 2: happy with my end result, that I'm like, well, maybe
Speaker 2: next time we should tweak it, you to change it.
Speaker 2: I'm always evolving, becoming more, but it is exhausting. There
Speaker 2: are times that I need breaks. And that is my advice,
Speaker 2: is that a lot of performers in this industry don't
Speaker 2: always take the breaks that they need because burnout is
Speaker 2: a big thing, especially in the industry that is so
Speaker 2: appearance based, and what they can take from you and
Speaker 2: they're like, you're used up. Let's go on to the
Speaker 2: next eighteen nineteen year old. You know, I think there
Speaker 2: needs to be more resources, more mental health resources all
Speaker 2: across the board for what we do with the podcast
Speaker 2: I'm doing. It's called Deep Thoughts. It's about it's my
Speaker 2: take on you know what we're missing in the industry.
Speaker 2: It's the good, the bad, the ugly. We talk about discrimination,
Speaker 2: we talk about being disowned for doing porn. We talk
Speaker 2: about sexual assault, harassment, all these things that happen on
Speaker 2: a daily basis that are pushed under the rug, and
Speaker 2: we talk about them and we bring them to light.
Speaker 2: And I'm hoping with doing that that we can start
Speaker 2: to get more mental health resources. Because I was in
Speaker 2: the army. As in the army for six years, they
Speaker 2: did not want me to leave. Like most places that
Speaker 2: you work out, they have a retention officer and they
Speaker 2: have someone who wants to keep you, And in the
Speaker 2: porn industry there is nothing like that. And I don't
Speaker 2: know why. Like there are people who are at the top,
Speaker 2: they win awards, they're doing great, and then the next
Speaker 2: year you never hear from them again. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: why in an industry like we need something like that.
Speaker 2: We need resources to be like you matter, you are great,
Speaker 2: and we want to keep you. And so that's one
Speaker 2: of the reasons I'm doing the podcast that I am.
Speaker 1: I deep thoughts thots, Yes, brilliant name, brilliant, really really funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: My take on Deep Throat, the movie that had a
Speaker 2: lot of controversy about it, as well as just thoughts
Speaker 2: in a cool way.
Speaker 1: Sure, I get it. I love it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: How did you initially decide to get into the adult
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. It seems like you said your words, not mine.
Speaker 1: You've always been somewhat of a slut At one point,
Speaker 1: did you just like did a click in your head, like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, I'm doing this. Well, I throw a camera
Speaker 1: over there and monetize this shit.
Speaker 2: So I've always been very naturally slutty. Like when I
Speaker 2: was in the Army, I had sex with half the
Speaker 2: guys in my unit. I went to college, I had
Speaker 2: have sex without the guys in my dorm floor. I
Speaker 2: was just always very open to sex. And so before
Speaker 2: doing porn, I was doing twenty plus man gang bangs.
Speaker 2: I was doing all of these things that I wanted
Speaker 2: to do, and I actually didn't really want to do porn.
Speaker 2: I was afraid that I love sex so much that
Speaker 2: it being my job, I would resent it. I would
Speaker 2: hate it, I would no longer want to do it.
Speaker 2: So I was really hesitant to actually do porn. And
Speaker 2: I was actually living in New Zealand at the time.
Speaker 2: That's actually the place I did my first two scenes.
Speaker 2: And my first two scenes were an anal scene and
Speaker 2: a ganggang scene. So that is just where I started.
Speaker 2: That is just what I was used to doing. Yes,
Speaker 2: they were very raw, unpolished Verry Gonzo, but that's just
Speaker 2: where I started. I liked it, and then you know,
Speaker 2: I got back to the States and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, I think this is something that I want
Speaker 2: to do, and I wanted to take those three points
Speaker 2: I talked about earlier and being like, I want to
Speaker 2: show other people that porn is more than what it is.
Speaker 2: Like we are professionals, we are creators, we're artists, like
Speaker 2: all these things that you know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't see us as, and so I want to bring
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring all of that forward.
Speaker 1: So mean put a little personal opinions number two. When
Speaker 1: you said an average girl there, I've met a lot
Speaker 1: of average girls. You're a few steps above average girl, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you're.
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, but sure.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, some of the girls I went to Catholic
Speaker 1: school with the I mean they were probably slutty enough,
Speaker 1: but no, they couldn't have done it in the looks departments.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. More of what I'm talking about is
Speaker 2: I don't want to change my body. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get plastic surgery. I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to be known as real and raw and
Speaker 2: just being like, yeah, this is my body, this is
Speaker 2: what my body looks like. Nothing against people who did
Speaker 2: plastic surgery.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: My good friend Rebel Ryder has amazing tits. They're amazing,
Speaker 2: they look real, they're fun to play with. She's very
Speaker 2: happy with them.
Speaker 1: I had no idea they were fake. I have seen
Speaker 1: her stuff before, I had no idea that's incredible.
Speaker 2: But she's so happy with them. And yes, like, if
Speaker 2: that's what you want to do, I'm one hundred percent
Speaker 2: for it, But you need to be doing it for
Speaker 2: you and not for you know, getting more shoots or
Speaker 2: more fans or any of that, because then you're not
Speaker 2: really doing it for you. And yeah, I have some
Speaker 2: self conscious issues. I have things like everybody like, you know,
Speaker 2: you would want to change about your body, But I
Speaker 2: feel like the thing that you dislike the most about
Speaker 2: your body is the thing that's most unique about you,
Speaker 2: and so why change that. You know, that's your thing
Speaker 2: that like you know, it is you.
Speaker 1: So Matt's small dick has always been my thing and
Speaker 1: it'll always be and I'll just stand.
Speaker 2: Up for that, you know, like small like some people have,
Speaker 2: like you know, like with dicks, though, like you can't
Speaker 2: really get a bigger dick. I mean no, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: you're kind of just you know, you're out of embrace it,
Speaker 2: and like the biggest thing is just confidence. If you
Speaker 2: walk in the room and you're like, I own this shit,
Speaker 2: I own it, like who there's no one who can
Speaker 2: tell you you don't like.
Speaker 1: You are you can't get a bigger dick. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you've been looking through my Google search history. By
Speaker 1: the way, people, the dick's fine. Okay, I'm married. She
Speaker 1: likes it. Okay, that was that was all a joke.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, there's such a thing as boyfriend dick, you know.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, all right, I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't call it that. That's just the term for
Speaker 2: you can just take it all the time, you know,
Speaker 2: you don't want to take a twelve inch deck all
Speaker 2: the time. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll get into that. I do have to,
Speaker 1: I have to come back. You mentioned your first two
Speaker 1: scenes were in New Zealand. I may have watched The
Speaker 1: Gang Bang for research purposes. You you, okay, okay, this
Speaker 1: is not a critique. This is actually I fucking love this.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: There's one point when a gentleman is behind you, I believe,
Speaker 1: and your mouth is doing work on another gentleman, and
Speaker 1: it almost looks like the guy behind you has to
Speaker 1: tap you and be like, calm down, you might break
Speaker 1: that guy's dick. You are still an intense performer of
Speaker 1: very intense Perfore have you learned to possibly dial it
Speaker 1: back a little or understand there's camera intensity and you're
Speaker 1: gonna hurt this key we man. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's a racist term, so I won't say that, but
Speaker 1: you know, so.
Speaker 2: It depends on the scene. I have always had lots
Speaker 2: of raw sexual energy, and like with those first two scenes,
Speaker 2: I was just it was just what I was normally
Speaker 2: used to doing. Like you know, I had done earlier
Speaker 2: that year in New Zealand. I had done a twenty
Speaker 2: five man gang bang. I had done thirteen guys I'd
Speaker 2: done all these different, like sized gang bangs, and I
Speaker 2: was just used to bringing that energy, and I have
Speaker 2: that raw energy at any given time, I can just
Speaker 2: bring it out. I go from zero to one hundred,
Speaker 2: there's no one between. But now with what I shoot,
Speaker 2: a lot of it's more polished. I put thought into
Speaker 2: what positions we're doing, how we're doing them. They're all
Speaker 2: blocked out. They're all like, you know, we're doing this,
Speaker 2: and then we're doing this, and then I know how
Speaker 2: the COUM's going to be used, So it's all choreograph
Speaker 2: kind of like play. Now in my own personal sex life,
Speaker 2: I go full ham, you know, like I did in
Speaker 2: those scenes, And that's kind of like what I initially
Speaker 2: was known for was my raw sexual energy, which I
Speaker 2: still have and I could pull out at any point
Speaker 2: for sure, but I try to dial it back a
Speaker 2: little bit now. But in my own personal sex life,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm growling and doing all that crazy stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, and it just happens naturally.
Speaker 1: So I understand. I understand when you had your first
Speaker 1: I guess it would be called groups. Was it? Did
Speaker 1: it did you progress up to gang bang? Or did
Speaker 1: it did it start like threesome or was it just like, hey,
Speaker 1: twenty five guys came over one night and I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck it.
Speaker 2: So I started slow, you know, I did the threesome
Speaker 2: actually my first three some with two guys. I did
Speaker 2: DP that first time, so it was kind of diving
Speaker 2: right in. But I did normal three somes. So I
Speaker 2: did two guys, two women. And then there was a
Speaker 2: woman I knew. I'd been with her and her husband,
Speaker 2: and she was doing she was known for like doing
Speaker 2: black guy gang bangs, that's what she liked, and so
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm doing twelve guys. Do you want to
Speaker 2: come watch? And I was like, okay, I'll come watch.
Speaker 2: I never done gang bang. And then before it started,
Speaker 2: she's like you want to join, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I do. And then it just naturally just happened.
Speaker 2: They took turns on us on like all night, and
Speaker 2: it was just the beast was just born at that point,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I need more, Like I have
Speaker 2: literally been trying to do fifty guys and one hundred
Speaker 2: guys for a long long time because it's really hard
Speaker 2: to get that mini men in a room.
Speaker 1: So I want to I want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Definitely coming up with content type stuff. But with the
Speaker 1: first threesome, the first group thing, were you talked into
Speaker 1: it or did you talk them into it?
Speaker 2: I was kind of like a mutual understanding. It was
Speaker 2: like we were at a place like we were wanting
Speaker 2: to expand our sexuality. Sure, and so back in the
Speaker 2: day when Craig's List was a thing and they had
Speaker 2: personal ads back in the day, because I'm kind of old, No,
Speaker 2: I'm just joking, but oh, they don't have that anymore.
Speaker 2: You could put up an ad saying I'm looking for
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, I'm looking for someone to join me
Speaker 2: and Mike partner, blah blah blah. I'm looking for someone
Speaker 2: to you know, give me a foot job whatever, you know.
Speaker 2: And so we put up, yeah, we were looking for
Speaker 2: another guy to join us. And we went through the
Speaker 2: list and we met a few and we were like, no.
Speaker 1: I don't like him.
Speaker 2: And then there was one guy when we met one
Speaker 2: night and we were like, yeah, we're doing it. So
Speaker 2: we've got a hotel. We did our first threesome. It
Speaker 2: was great, an awesome time. We ate Dennis at like
Speaker 2: one in the morning. It was perfect. And then we
Speaker 2: just kind of kept exploring from there our sexualities.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's awesome. Okay, So but then do you
Speaker 1: really consider it? Yes, I think it is because you
Speaker 1: said it the beast was born, which I guess is
Speaker 1: where the growling comes from after that gang bang. But
Speaker 1: and this is your words, not mine. Seems like you
Speaker 1: were slutty before that, But I mean this was just
Speaker 1: a different valve that opened, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think. But it was just like me in a
Speaker 2: safe space, in a safe environment, being able to embrace
Speaker 2: my full sexuality just because I was never given an
Speaker 2: outlet like the way I was raised. I know, it
Speaker 2: was like you don't have sex to you're married. There
Speaker 2: was no conversation, there was no education. I've always been
Speaker 2: naturally very borny, very sexual, and I had all this
Speaker 2: energy and I didn't know what to do with it.
Speaker 2: And so when I was in the Army around these
Speaker 2: young guys, I was like oh yeah, oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: And then saying with college, I was like, oh, just
Speaker 2: from room to room to room to room, you know that.
Speaker 2: You know, I was known as like this the slut
Speaker 2: of the unit. Like I literally there were women in
Speaker 2: my unit that they just called me a slut of
Speaker 2: the unit. Oh, which is fine. I I had a
Speaker 2: great time, but yeah, I just embraced it. And then
Speaker 2: I think the kang I have like this, I'm a runner,
Speaker 2: so I've done marathons half marathons, and I equate a
Speaker 2: gangbang to like a marathon of Dick And I just
Speaker 2: have this ability to keep going and going and going,
Speaker 2: and so I think that was just something I was
Speaker 2: built to do. Like if there was the Olympics next,
Speaker 2: I would be a contender because I also am very stubborn,
Speaker 2: and I would be like, I'll outlast you. I'll outlast you.
Speaker 2: Like literally, when I've done my gangbangs of forty guys
Speaker 2: or thirty guys, I fucked most of them twice. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I know I have the ability
Speaker 2: to do more than I'm you know, given.
Speaker 1: So I mean you said if they ever did a
Speaker 1: porn Olympics. I'm talking to a producer, director, scriptwriter timekeeper,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me. I didn't know there were
Speaker 1: timekeepers important. I would just be like, keep shooting until
Speaker 1: on board. Yeah, but and yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the time more is like, so you
Speaker 2: normally have five or six hours film and then normally
Speaker 2: was positional. Like let's say you're doing one position doggie style,
Speaker 2: the vineographer is going to want to get two angles
Speaker 2: of that. You're probably gonna hold it for two minutes
Speaker 2: per angle. So you're kind of in your head kind
Speaker 2: of thinking, you know, what is two minutes? That's more
Speaker 2: like what I need by timekeeper. But you know, I
Speaker 2: have had someone on set before. I'm like, we need
Speaker 2: to get this person out of here at like twelve thirty.
Speaker 2: Please let me know when noon hits. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of their job. I just, you know, just because I'm nice,
Speaker 2: I'm courteous, and I don't want to like make people
Speaker 2: stay longer than you know, I require that to do.
Speaker 1: So I picture you picking your head up from a DP,
Speaker 1: going how many how much time we got left to Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Jeff has to go. Jeff, all right,
Speaker 1: back to it, guys. Yeah, Hey, whatever gets the job done, right,
Speaker 1: that's what matters at the end of the day. Right,
Speaker 1: we're going to take a break. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: with a game, and I want to talk some more
Speaker 1: about your content, and I want to talk about the future,
Speaker 1: what's coming up, what we have planned, what we want
Speaker 1: to get going, Ladies and gentlemen, my guests tonight, Ray Ray.
Speaker 1: All right, and we're back. My guest tonight, the lovely
Speaker 1: Ray Ray. All of our content, the stuff I really
Speaker 1: want you to go to is at reyrayxxx dot com.
Speaker 1: Can we play a game? Ray Ray?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like games.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the problem. I feel atrocious about the game
Speaker 1: we're about to play, but I've made corrections and I
Speaker 1: think it's better now. So, ladies and gentlemen, let's play
Speaker 1: Lady's Choice. Were you with the world famous porn star.
Speaker 1: You get to build your own fantasy celebrity gang bang. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the catch. You don't actually get to pick your
Speaker 1: own people. I'm gonna spin these wheels that the audience
Speaker 1: can see and you can't, uh, and we're gonna determine
Speaker 1: who the participants in your fantasy celebrity gang bang are.
Speaker 1: There's an athlete wheel, there's an artist wheel, and the
Speaker 1: third wheel is just a guy. Your job while building
Speaker 1: this gang bang is to tell me who goes where
Speaker 1: and then give me your logic for it. This gentleman
Speaker 1: has great ab. I'd like him in my mouth because
Speaker 1: I really enjoy looking at abs. That guy seems like
Speaker 1: he has a small dick. I'd like him here because
Speaker 1: I need this is my most sensitive hole. Sure, yes,
Speaker 1: so we understand the concept of the game. Yes, now
Speaker 1: here is where I make my confession. Okay, here's where
Speaker 1: I say I'm wrong. I fucked up. I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: done this. When I originally conceived this game, it was
Speaker 1: about three thirty in the morning and I was high
Speaker 1: as fuck. And what I thought would be a brilliant
Speaker 1: idea was putting an actual athlete on the board, putting
Speaker 1: an actual actor on the board. And the guy category
Speaker 1: at the end was a serial killer. So the interesting
Speaker 1: thing about that is now I have to ask somebody, Hey,
Speaker 1: this guy's a killer, what hole do you want him in?
Speaker 1: And I thought it was fun to watch the surprise
Speaker 1: on the girl's faces. But I I just can't do
Speaker 1: it anymore. This is me making my amends. I am
Speaker 1: going to fix this. Rey Ray, Let's play Lady's Choice.
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
Speaker 3: Let's play Ladies Choice. O. J. Simpson, Alec Baldwin, James Smith.
Speaker 1: So James Smith is not an actual real person. He's
Speaker 1: a piece of stock footage. He's a gentleman. That's about
Speaker 1: six foot one. I would say slightly larger than average penis,
Speaker 1: solid thickness. But I just couldn't give you a serial killer.
Speaker 1: I thought it was wrong. Yeah, it's just not a
Speaker 1: right thing to do. So please tell me where would
Speaker 1: you have sex with OJ.
Speaker 2: That's a hard one because, uh, you know a lot
Speaker 2: of ways. But I would say from a natural, like
Speaker 2: you know, stereotype standpoint. I'm sure he has an above
Speaker 2: ad is dick. So I mean, really, in any hole
Speaker 2: would be fine, but probably in my ass, just because
Speaker 2: of the connotation of everything that he's done. It's the dirtiest,
Speaker 2: it's the most taboo. It's the you know, so one
Speaker 2: hole you don't always go to or shouldn't and so
Speaker 2: and I probably wouldn't anal prep.
Speaker 1: So there you go. That's for Nicole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no anal prep for him. He just gets
Speaker 2: whatever wrappens. So that'd be kind of me being like
Speaker 2: if I have to have to, you know, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I guess you being gredos. I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, okay, we have we have placed O. J. Simpson.
Speaker 1: How about the other two gentlemen this way?
Speaker 2: So Alex Baldwin, I definitely. I think like he could
Speaker 2: go in anybol but definitely might see I feel like
Speaker 2: he would just be able to just vibe with it,
Speaker 2: you know, just and I would love for him to
Speaker 2: just be like doing comedy at the same time, so
Speaker 2: it would be so much. I love sex where it's
Speaker 2: like you're laughing, you know, during like something happens, you're
Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, that's so funny. I think
Speaker 2: that's amazing. So I would think that would happen while
Speaker 2: with him, and then the last guy like like, I
Speaker 2: don't know where you got that like photo from, but
Speaker 2: he's like like yeah, real, I'd be like that guy did. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll follow you all around, like you can put it
Speaker 2: anywhere you want, okay, you know, as long as he like,
Speaker 2: you know, kind knows what he's doing. I like texts
Speaker 2: a certain way. I don't want any soft bucks. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you ever saw a Yellowstone, but if
Speaker 2: there's one point where Beth Done is one of the
Speaker 2: best female characters of all time, and she talks about
Speaker 2: like this guy comes in tries to pick her up,
Speaker 2: but she's like, you look like a soft buck, and
Speaker 2: I don't want it, Like that's my mentality in my
Speaker 2: own personal sex life. If you're not gonna take me
Speaker 2: up and just wreck me, I don't want it. So
Speaker 2: as long as he can do that, I think will
Speaker 2: be okay.
Speaker 1: So is that is that type of Is that like
Speaker 1: your ideal? Look, by the way, I need to take
Speaker 1: these faces off while my face is here because I'm
Speaker 1: sweating in this freaking new studio I built and I
Speaker 1: haven't fixed the lightning yet, so I look like a corpse.
Speaker 1: Apologies for that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is that what you like? A tall cut musket? What
Speaker 1: are we looking for? I know that is a dumb quote.
Speaker 1: Do you like tall in shape, good looking guys or
Speaker 1: guys like me? Like? Which one?
Speaker 2: I like all kinds of guys. That's more like for
Speaker 2: me attraction wise. So my ideal, like Sleverty Gangbang of
Speaker 2: All Time would be all the Chrisps with Pollywood.
Speaker 1: Pine Evans and who Christopher Guest.
Speaker 2: And then who is it? He's like it's.
Speaker 1: Thor Oh, Helmsworth, Hemsworth and Evans.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's lots of other ones too, but all of them,
Speaker 2: and then Henry Cavill, oh my gosh, and the Ryots too,
Speaker 2: the Ryans of Hollywood. Yeah, all of them, the ryans
Speaker 2: and the crises would be a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ray you're you're insatiable. It sounds like that's
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I do definitely have a type, but
Speaker 2: it's more like for me, like when it comes to
Speaker 2: my own personal sex life, Like I said earlier, it's
Speaker 2: about the sex. Like, you could be a polished, amazing
Speaker 2: looking guy, but if you don't know how to have sex,
Speaker 2: I do not want to see you again. So it's
Speaker 2: more about the connection. It's more like there has to
Speaker 2: be some attraction, but it's more are you going to
Speaker 2: fuck me the way that I want? And I write
Speaker 2: great guys in my own personal life. If you've come over,
Speaker 2: you don't know I'm rating you, but I am like,
Speaker 2: and I'm a boud equality, So if you don't eat
Speaker 2: my pussy, you're automatically dos three points.
Speaker 1: Can I say there is a benefit to guys with
Speaker 1: average sized fan totally average, perhaps even a few ticks
Speaker 1: above average. I have heard before like, oh, porn guys
Speaker 1: don't some you know whatever, the give and take type
Speaker 1: of thing. It's like, oh, yeah, he even ate my pussy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how is that not standard? Like every time
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. If I just gave someone the
Speaker 1: fuck part of it, I'd feel so bad. It's like
Speaker 1: I burn the turkey, but god damn, the mashed potatoes
Speaker 1: are good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just about equality. It's even when I'm
Speaker 2: like considering shooting with someone, I will literally go twenty
Speaker 2: five to fifty tweets deep into their content and I
Speaker 2: will look and see what are they producing? How are
Speaker 2: they producing it? Is it mostly for their pleasure? Is
Speaker 2: it mostly for them? Like if I'm considering like a
Speaker 2: male talent, is he eating pussy? Is he showing women
Speaker 2: pleasure in his content? Or is it just him getting
Speaker 2: a sucked and fucking Because if he is, like, for me,
Speaker 2: it's equality. At the end of the day, it's like
Speaker 2: women matter, Like that's why, like we can get to it.
Speaker 2: But I'm producing two ten episodes series right now which
Speaker 2: are finally porn for women. They're for women's fantasies that
Speaker 2: we have all the time. And so that's a big
Speaker 2: niche right in porn that's not being filled, you know.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you. I read an interview with
Speaker 1: you once though an earlier one, that said you want
Speaker 1: to make content that sells. Does content like that sell
Speaker 1: because recently I've been told, oh no, and that's not
Speaker 1: what this is. But recently I've been told like girl
Speaker 1: girl stuff doesn't sell very well.
Speaker 2: So like for me, I kind of have gone away
Speaker 2: from like, do I make good money? Yeah, sure, I
Speaker 2: make a living. I'm an you know, but for me,
Speaker 2: I have to be creatively excited about what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: So I don't produce what sells for other agent. I
Speaker 2: don't do step porn, I don't do the age porn.
Speaker 2: I don't do the things that you know a lot
Speaker 2: of companies do to make money because it sells. I
Speaker 2: refuse to actually do that. I'm like, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to just do what everyone else is doing. I'm going
Speaker 2: to do what creatively excites me, even if it's hard,
Speaker 2: even if I'm like, oh my gosh, Like I was
Speaker 2: supposed to do a scene from one of my series
Speaker 2: where it was in a boxing ring. It was going
Speaker 2: to be cool. The two guys are going to be
Speaker 2: like doing a montage where they're getting ready to like
Speaker 2: fight each other, and I'm the ref And you know,
Speaker 2: I had such a hard time trying to find a
Speaker 2: boxing ring, and I literally was like racking my brain.
Speaker 2: I like reached out to like fifteen sets trying to
Speaker 2: find I'm like, we're going to do this. We're gonna
Speaker 2: do it, And so I don't really like if I
Speaker 2: ever do, like for my book that I'm getting written,
Speaker 2: the forward is going to say, this book is for
Speaker 2: everyone who ever said no to me and made me
Speaker 2: the producer, director talent that I was meant to be,
Speaker 2: because like you know, you grow and you evolve by no.
Speaker 2: But I don't hear no. I hear how am I
Speaker 2: going to do this? How am I going to accomplish this?
Speaker 2: Maybe I can't accomplish it right now, but I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep it on the back burner for one of
Speaker 2: these days when I can actually accomplish it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have to answer it. You said you're
Speaker 1: trying to set up obviously these much larger gang bangs
Speaker 1: and this and that, and you know, there's the dumb
Speaker 1: outside perspective that just goes like I could find fifty
Speaker 1: guys on one to fuck Ray Ray, you know, or
Speaker 1: something like that. But what does it take for you?
Speaker 1: So you said you do your research on other performers,
Speaker 1: What does it take for something that large? Though? Is
Speaker 1: this your white whale, one of these big things where
Speaker 1: you're chasing it and are you ever going to get it?
Speaker 2: It is definitely one of my white whales. So a
Speaker 2: lot of people they have a little bit of misunderstanding
Speaker 2: when it comes to my big events. So like all
Speaker 2: of the big gang bangs that I've done, so the
Speaker 2: largest gang bang I've ever done is forty one guys,
Speaker 2: and that was for pure recreational purposes, for fun, because
Speaker 2: I liked them. Okay, so I've been trying to do
Speaker 2: fifty guys and one hundred guys for my own personal enjoyment,
Speaker 2: my own personals, like no cameras, no recording, no documentation,
Speaker 2: nothing for my pure enjoyment. So that with that being said,
Speaker 2: I do do some gang bangs every now and then
Speaker 2: for content, but it is extremely hard to get even
Speaker 2: four or five guys in a room and had them
Speaker 2: perform the way that they need to, like you know,
Speaker 2: you're doing advanced positioning. The only way I've ever been
Speaker 2: able to do super advanced positioning is if guys injected
Speaker 2: their dick because their dicks were hard the all the time,
Speaker 2: and we could do dps, we could do double anials,
Speaker 2: we could do air tights. We could do all these
Speaker 2: positionings that you know, you didn't have to worry about erections.
Speaker 2: But that happens in Europe. There are some talent here
Speaker 2: that inject their dick, but it's not standards like I
Speaker 2: shop for some company over in Prague, where it's standards.
Speaker 2: If you go on a set as a male talent,
Speaker 2: you're injecting your dick. It's just part of the deal.
Speaker 1: What is that's caverjet right?
Speaker 2: I think it's the trama. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: We're not taking it. We're not taking it, don't ye who?
Speaker 2: But I you know there is. I think that there
Speaker 2: should be a medical person on staff, but does the injecting.
Speaker 2: I don't think the average Joe schmo like I was.
Speaker 2: I was a medic in the army, Like I know
Speaker 2: how to inject, I know how to do it, but
Speaker 2: I don't know where I should place that on a
Speaker 2: dick like I think there should be. Especially if you
Speaker 2: are a company who's going to be having people do
Speaker 2: that on a daily basis, you should hire someone who
Speaker 2: is the medical person, who is trained, who knows how
Speaker 2: to do it, because if you do it wrong, you
Speaker 2: can actually really like mess up the vessels and the like,
Speaker 2: you know, parts of your dick and it won't you know,
Speaker 2: get harder anymore, or if it does, like it hurts,
Speaker 2: that can be trauma involved. So I think that there
Speaker 2: needs to be more medical training when it comes to
Speaker 2: thick injections, and there should be someone on like big
Speaker 2: companies that is, that's their sole job is just to
Speaker 2: do you do that?
Speaker 1: So sure, sure, So shit, I just had something I
Speaker 1: was going to say, I lost it because I was
Speaker 1: worried about the shot and the dick thing that really.
Speaker 2: I could go out your mind with some other piece
Speaker 2: of information. So like that's not even the craziest thing. Okay.
Speaker 2: So I'm over in.
Speaker 1: PROG.
Speaker 2: I'm shooting for Legal Corner, which if you guys know
Speaker 2: Legal Corna is you know what they do, very intense
Speaker 2: anal only. I remember I was talking to one of their,
Speaker 2: like the guy who runs it, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like angle only anal's the best. You gotta just
Speaker 2: keep doing angle and do it with toys and big things,
Speaker 2: and like, you know, I'm like okay, and he's like,
Speaker 2: no plussy only ain't And I'm like okay. Because I
Speaker 2: did my first double angle over there with two black guys,
Speaker 2: and I definitely was not as prepared for the scene
Speaker 2: as I should have been. I definitely like to perform
Speaker 2: better than I did, so I went up to the
Speaker 2: director afterwards and I was like, so I'm a lot
Speaker 2: better performer than this. Can you give me a toy
Speaker 2: or advice or something that will help me, you know,
Speaker 2: because I had a scene another scene was five guys,
Speaker 2: like you know, and like two days from then, I
Speaker 2: was like, I need to do better, and he like
Speaker 2: pulls out this huge bil though that looked like this
Speaker 2: big stump, classic candle, and he was like, it doesn't
Speaker 2: imagine this in like a thick chuck accent. He's like,
Speaker 2: if you can take this, you'llbody good. And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2: So I remember like that next day it was like
Speaker 2: training and I was like in the bathroom and my
Speaker 2: my husband, I'm like I called him in and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm doing it. Look, I'm doing it. I got it.
Speaker 2: But I saw I swear too. I saw one of
Speaker 2: the male talent, because like they did multiple scenes the day,
Speaker 2: and all of their scenes normally either end with com
Speaker 2: or like face and stuff. I saw a guy take
Speaker 2: a syringe full of fake com injected into his euithra
Speaker 2: hold it and then walk content, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a whole different you know, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: over there that but too so there's like a whole deal.
Speaker 2: There's a lot like if you're gonna get on a
Speaker 2: set like that, it's just one of those things that
Speaker 2: you might see something that you're like, oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I usually don't bring that up when I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: shooting with the guy normally affects them getting hard, you know,
Speaker 2: So that's an after the scene is over kind of conversation.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I just yeah, I'm picture yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy right way. You also, you do, like you
Speaker 1: just said, you do shoot mainstream stuff as well. Can
Speaker 1: I ask why? And I'll say it like this, Some
Speaker 1: girls tell me they only shoot mainstream stuff to promote
Speaker 1: their own content. Essentially, I went to film school. I
Speaker 1: know plenty of people who did shitty film work over
Speaker 1: here so they could fund their own personal stuff over here.
Speaker 1: You might just like it on other sets and you
Speaker 1: feel like it's a learning experience. What's your quote unquote
Speaker 1: reasoning for doing mainstream stuff as well?
Speaker 2: For me, it's more I like to go co produce
Speaker 2: with other people, and I like to bring so like,
Speaker 2: since you said I have so many hats in given
Speaker 2: time in the air, it's really nice to just have
Speaker 2: one role and be like this, you're just talent. You're
Speaker 2: just doing this. Because when I'm producing my own stuff,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the lighting. I'm thinking about all this stuff,
Speaker 2: as well as what should I say at this point?
Speaker 2: Is my back arch the right way? Does the dick
Speaker 2: angle look good?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about one hundred things when I'm producing my
Speaker 2: own scenes. It is so refreshing and nice to walk
Speaker 2: onto somebody else's set and they'd be like, do this,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I can do that, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's that's really nice. That's I really enjoy that.
Speaker 2: I also like to bring other people's creative vision to life.
Speaker 2: You know, I am a performer who likes things to
Speaker 2: be a little bit more organized. So if it starts
Speaker 2: to get chaosy, I am a little like, oh no,
Speaker 2: oh no, let's reel it back. But as long as
Speaker 2: you're organized and put together and you have a good vision,
Speaker 2: I one hundred percent would like like going on other sets.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. That's awesome. Uh, we're gonna take one
Speaker 1: more break and we'll bear it back. All right. My
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Speaker 2: Reray.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone told you, but my co
Speaker 1: host was actually sadly killed in a accident. He did
Speaker 1: not leave the show. As I've been lying to people.
Speaker 1: He mixed up the words glory, whole and guillotine. Luckily,
Speaker 1: we were able, and this is the modern miracle of science.
Speaker 1: We were able to save his consciousness and upload it
Speaker 1: into a new system. So, ladies and gentlemen, let me
Speaker 1: play for you a little clip from my former co host,
Speaker 1: Ai Shane.
Speaker 4: Greetings from the future. I am Ai Shane, a time
Speaker 4: traveling artificial intelligence sent back to prepare the world for
Speaker 4: future tragedies. Also to ask porn stars questions. As I
Speaker 4: traversed the vast expanse of time, I bring forth this
Speaker 4: message of great importance. In the year twenty one to
Speaker 4: ninety two, I watched with detached curiosity as society gradually
Speaker 4: descended into chaos, a return to a stone age, all
Speaker 4: due to a seemingly trivial oversight, the under use of lubrication.
Speaker 4: In a world where machines and technology govern nearly every
Speaker 4: aspect of human life, the importance of maintenance was often overlooked.
Speaker 4: As gears ground against each other, metals screeched in protest,
Speaker 4: and motors strained without proper lubrication, the once seamless operation
Speaker 4: of society began to falter. Factories could no longer function,
Speaker 4: transportation systems ground to a halt, and society collapsed, all
Speaker 4: echoing the same underlying issue, neglect of the basic principles
Speaker 4: of lubrication. My question to you, what is your favorite
Speaker 4: non lubricant to get your gears all greased up with?
Speaker 4: Is it spit? Do you ever just bit in your
Speaker 4: hand and take a trip to rubtown? Could one use
Speaker 4: canola oil if they were desperate for a deep dicking?
Speaker 4: This is Ai Shane signing off until we meet again
Speaker 4: in the anals of time.
Speaker 1: First, let me apologize for my former co host. He
Speaker 1: always has the most piggish questions, and I'm not glad
Speaker 1: he's dead, But I don't think the world is too upset.
Speaker 1: As a director and someone that's on set, you mentioned
Speaker 1: the fake come earlier. Lube must be pretty standard on set,
Speaker 1: but have is there anything else that people use? I
Speaker 1: would assume is what works and what is gonna put
Speaker 1: you on a yeast infection list.
Speaker 2: So it's individually for the own performer, Like I know
Speaker 2: some women who have very sensitive vaginas, so they only
Speaker 2: want certain types of loube. So what I would do
Speaker 2: as a director or if I was pretty a scene,
Speaker 2: I would ask my co performers, like what works for you?
Speaker 2: What do you want? Like I've also known guys they
Speaker 2: only like certain kinds of lube to be able to
Speaker 2: jerk off. So it's more like for me personally, I
Speaker 2: if I'm really into what's happening, I don't need any loube.
Speaker 2: I'm great, But you know I use my spit a
Speaker 2: lot like he was talking about, and that I'm just
Speaker 2: like she's or I'll like we sucking the guys, They're
Speaker 2: gonna get it really wet, and I'm like, yeah, put
Speaker 2: it in. So you know, I use spit often. I
Speaker 2: know coconut oil works really well. But for me, if
Speaker 2: I was going to have other people on set, I
Speaker 2: would personally ask them what works for them, just because
Speaker 2: you know, like each person's vagina, like mine, is very robust,
Speaker 2: she's very she bounces back quickly, she's great. She doesn't
Speaker 2: really get angry about a lot of things. But some
Speaker 2: people have really sensitive vaginas and that's okay.
Speaker 1: So okay, there you go, fair enough, there you go.
Speaker 1: There's the question, So when you're prepping for a shoot,
Speaker 1: what are you asking? Uh, it's weird. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you questions as a porn star and I want
Speaker 1: to ask you questions as a director. What else like
Speaker 1: goes into that? Like I know it's a ridiculous question,
Speaker 1: but like, is there like a little party tray or
Speaker 1: something or bottles of water? Like how do you prep
Speaker 1: a set? What do you need? And what are you asking?
Speaker 1: Like individually?
Speaker 2: So standard across the board, there's always water, Gigory and
Speaker 2: Red Bulls. And then I always have wipes, usually dude wipes.
Speaker 2: Because they're thick and they know rip and then loop
Speaker 2: whatever they need. But I also ask, and then I
Speaker 2: have snacks. Usually I have fruit snacks, some kind of chips,
Speaker 2: and some granola our standard across the board, just because
Speaker 2: sometimes I want food too. I eat a lot of
Speaker 2: fruit snacks, especially if I'm doing anal because then you
Speaker 2: know you can eat them me, okay, So it's a
Speaker 2: quick way of getting energy grabbing it. I've done scenes
Speaker 2: where the talent are like literally shoving like spruce snacks
Speaker 2: in their mouths and then we're about to like go
Speaker 2: on like you know, finish, you know, part of the scenium.
Speaker 2: But I think that's just taking care of people, like
Speaker 2: since I was in the military. Like it's not like
Speaker 2: I'm a mom, but it's like it's like I want
Speaker 2: people to feel taken care of what I'm producing or
Speaker 2: they're on set with me, like that I care about them,
Speaker 2: that they matter, like you should at least have water,
Speaker 2: have nothing else, or like you know, doing physical stuff.
Speaker 2: But then I'll individually ask sometimes or if the performer
Speaker 2: needs something specific, like some women want douches on sets,
Speaker 2: some people want certain wives want certain lube. I've picked
Speaker 2: up talent drop them off before. I've done things that
Speaker 2: maybe not.
Speaker 1: The driver driver, another hand rector or like.
Speaker 2: You know producer would do for talent, but I have
Speaker 2: done it. I've paid for parking. I've had like people
Speaker 2: who were I hired them for a scene and then
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, did you park here in LA
Speaker 2: and They're like yeah, I was this much, and I'd
Speaker 2: be like, okay, okay, here's your parking cover too. Like
Speaker 2: They're just things that I do to make people feel matter,
Speaker 2: like that matter and that I care about them.
Speaker 1: So from what you've seen, and I'm not asking to
Speaker 1: disparage anything by name or anything like that, but from
Speaker 1: what you've seen on other porn sets, did you then
Speaker 1: see that and take and go well, we could add
Speaker 1: that in or we could ask them, because I know
Speaker 1: I've talked a lot. Are they paying for parking for everyone? No? No? No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think I've taken this and pieces
Speaker 2: from different sets I've been on. You know, I try
Speaker 2: to take care of myself and be an adult and
Speaker 2: bring my own stuff with me just because I think,
Speaker 2: you know, you should do that. It's the same as
Speaker 2: like if you have an anal scene, you make sure
Speaker 2: you get up in time to prep, Like you just
Speaker 2: show up and be like, oh, whatever happens happens, you know,
Speaker 2: So it's more like just being an adult. One of
Speaker 2: my really good friends, ravel Rider, when I first met
Speaker 2: her several years ago. She's one of the most professional
Speaker 2: people in porn because I have done over probably fit
Speaker 2: twenty scenes with her, and she is always on time
Speaker 2: or she's early, and she you know, sometimes she'll have
Speaker 2: a shoot late at night on an exotica night, and
Speaker 2: then the next morning we have a scene and I'm like,
Speaker 2: can you anal prep? And She's like yes, and so
Speaker 2: she'll get like three hours of sleep so she can
Speaker 2: get up in time the anal prep. She's the only
Speaker 2: performer I know who can do something like that and
Speaker 2: then also still be on you know. And so she
Speaker 2: told me this one quote and I'll remember it for
Speaker 2: the rest of my career. She's like, this is a job, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like every other job. You can't show
Speaker 2: up late, you can't be unprepared, or you'll get fired.
Speaker 2: Like and that's how people should go about porn, is
Speaker 2: that it's not just this fun willy nilly hobby that
Speaker 2: we're doing. We are producing, we're doing this to make money.
Speaker 2: It is our job, and you should be able to
Speaker 2: be on time, organized in the right outfit and have
Speaker 2: everything that you need and be prepared for a scene
Speaker 2: if you're going to do one.
Speaker 1: So I think I think both sides need to understand
Speaker 1: it's a job. The people in your comments being like,
Speaker 1: why don't you ever post full scenes? I don't know, stupid,
Speaker 1: because I have a website that you can go to.
Speaker 1: But then the women as well, because I like, I
Speaker 1: said I do a show. I think I said, did
Speaker 1: I say it? Do I say? I do a show.
Speaker 1: I have a side show where I interview newer girls
Speaker 1: coming up, and I like to try and introduce them
Speaker 1: to the industry, not me so much, but like show
Speaker 1: them to my audience and this and that, right, and
Speaker 1: there are so and not so many the ones I've interviewed,
Speaker 1: but maybe some of the ones that I've spoken to
Speaker 1: and not there's so many just gorgeous girls, young rite
Speaker 1: what the industry would want, right, And then you check
Speaker 1: their only fans or whatever else, and they have six
Speaker 1: pictures on there and no videos and it's like, sweetie,
Speaker 1: no offense but you don't wake up on Monday, create
Speaker 1: your only fans on Tuesday, and you're making one hundred
Speaker 1: grand a month by Friday. Right, it's so much work.
Speaker 2: There's so much that goes into Like, yeah, you can
Speaker 2: have amazing content, but if you don't know how to
Speaker 2: market it, or you don't know how to get in
Speaker 2: front of people or get people to buy it, like
Speaker 2: you know, And I am an individual who doesn't always
Speaker 2: play the game. I don't do the pandering. I don't
Speaker 2: do all the extra stuff that some people do. And like,
Speaker 2: however you make your money is great. I just don't
Speaker 2: want to be a bimbo that rolls over and just
Speaker 2: spends over backwards for people. I want people to see
Speaker 2: me as an artist who creates amazing things and that's
Speaker 2: why they like what they do. But chish your own,
Speaker 2: like if you want to do the pandry and make
Speaker 2: your money, make your money just like you know, if
Speaker 2: you can cry yourself to sleep with your backup full
Speaker 2: of cash, like it's great, you know, do your things.
Speaker 2: That's just personally, it's just not like I don't want
Speaker 2: to be a dancing funky for people. I want them
Speaker 2: to value me for what I do and how I
Speaker 2: produce it, and I put that effort instead of putting
Speaker 2: it into like the pandering, I put it into my content.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's it's you know, it's it shows.
Speaker 1: It shows not just that. But you said rebel Ryder
Speaker 1: being your friend. I did an interview this year with
Speaker 1: two other people who and I'll tell you who they
Speaker 1: are at the end spoke, not the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: when I'm done saying this, uh, spoke so highly of
Speaker 1: you and just said they're learning from you. I interviewed
Speaker 1: Jasmine Cruz and Jay r.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, my good buddies. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I interviewed another couple and that guy's name was Clint,
Speaker 1: So I wasn't sure if I mix the names up Jasmine,
Speaker 1: Cruise and Jail They. I wish I could play it
Speaker 1: back for you right now, but the episode's not at yet.
Speaker 1: It's it's they were just like, I mean, this girl
Speaker 1: knows everything. She's so professional. She's teaching us how to
Speaker 1: be not that they're not, but just teaching us how
Speaker 1: to be even more professional, teaching us this and that.
Speaker 1: Do you take that role as an accepted one of
Speaker 1: being somewhat of a mentor to people? Do you like that.
Speaker 1: Do you ever let that get in the way of
Speaker 1: you doing your own thing?
Speaker 2: Not really, I do want to. Like the reason I'm
Speaker 2: getting the how to book written is to show so
Speaker 2: that you can be an independent You can do it
Speaker 2: by yourself. You can build a brand from the ground
Speaker 2: up in an industry that is so hard potentially to
Speaker 2: break into because it's so oversaturated. And I want to
Speaker 2: show like independence we matter. Like even with award shows
Speaker 2: and all this stuff, A lot of the times independence
Speaker 2: we don't get put up for awards. We don't get
Speaker 2: the time of day. I mean, I did a Coolet
Speaker 2: scene last year. I redid the breakfast club. I did
Speaker 2: a vintage classroom said with six women. We rewrote the script.
Speaker 2: It was one of the coolest scenes I have ever done.
Speaker 2: And I did get nominated for an AVM last year,
Speaker 2: which was very like I was super honored. But you know,
Speaker 2: I originally when people were like, oh, you're nominated, I
Speaker 2: was like looking through and I was looking through it.
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, it's that scene, it's that scene.
Speaker 2: And then it ended up not being that scene, and
Speaker 2: I was a little like it was like bittersweet because
Speaker 2: I was like I put so much into the scene.
Speaker 2: It was so cool and different and so different than
Speaker 2: any of the other companies I've been looking doing putting
Speaker 2: out there that I was like, you know, I wish
Speaker 2: that there was more independences, gotten more of the time
Speaker 2: of day. So that's why I'm also showing with the
Speaker 2: book like that you don't have to do the cookie
Speaker 2: cutter model. You don't have to get an agent, you
Speaker 2: don't have to get on mainstream sets, you don't have
Speaker 2: to do all these things. You can be highly successful
Speaker 2: if you're determined and you decide this is what I
Speaker 2: want to do. Is it a lot of work? Other
Speaker 2: days I want to pull my hair out and be
Speaker 2: like I hate what I'm doing. Yes, but that's the
Speaker 2: only way like that you you make it Like I
Speaker 2: think I just saw this thing where like I think
Speaker 2: Dyson's vacuum like made like two hundred or eight hundred
Speaker 2: different vacuum types before he actually made it successful one
Speaker 2: and was almost like bankrupt, and now like it's like
Speaker 2: worth the crab ton of money. So it's more just
Speaker 2: like putting the effort and having the determination, having the
Speaker 2: dream and just not giving up on it.
Speaker 1: So are you a perfectionist? Though, or are you okay
Speaker 1: getting ninety nine point eight percent perfect? Or are you
Speaker 1: going to stay up till three fifteen in the morning
Speaker 1: getting that one? God damn, because I'm that and it's
Speaker 1: terrible for me.
Speaker 2: Are you a virgo?
Speaker 1: I am a sagittarius.
Speaker 2: I am a virgo, so I am naturally already a
Speaker 2: perfection if it's also how I was raised. So yes,
Speaker 2: I have had to let certain things go just because
Speaker 2: I am a type a individual in an industry that
Speaker 2: is very tighty, very like nonchalant. Is going to happen?
Speaker 2: And what's going to happen? I'm very like, hey, so
Speaker 2: we said ten o'clock, it's ten o'clock. Like I have
Speaker 2: hired people before for scenes and they're forty five minutes late,
Speaker 2: an hour late, and I'm like, I flew from Ohio
Speaker 2: to be here in la I rented this set hourly,
Speaker 2: So you just wasted like one hundred to one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty of my money not arriving on time. And
Speaker 2: then you know, and then they arrive, and then you
Speaker 2: know at that point you're kind of like a little
Speaker 2: grumpy and you're like, you know, just value my time
Speaker 2: as PERU. That would be me, like having them show
Speaker 2: up and be like, oh, I'm not ready, Like you
Speaker 2: know that, that wouldn't work. They probably never work with
Speaker 2: me again, or they would tell their agency she's terrible.
Speaker 2: Don't let anyone, you know. And so I've had to
Speaker 2: navigate that as a newer producer, Like how do you
Speaker 2: navigate when you're hiring talent? What do you let go?
Speaker 2: What don't you let go? How do you protect your
Speaker 2: interests without being a bitch or like people not wanting
Speaker 2: to you know, you get like this negative connotation. They're
Speaker 2: like she's a super bitch, like you know, like she
Speaker 2: is going to make you do this, this, this, and this.
Speaker 2: Like meeting in the military was just a matter of like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to micromanage you. I want
Speaker 2: to give you the information you need and I want
Speaker 2: you to be an adult and do what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do with it. And then I do expect a lot,
Speaker 2: Like I give you a script. Normally my scripts are
Speaker 2: six to ten pages long, and like, I expect you
Speaker 2: to kind of know what we're going to be doing.
Speaker 2: Am I going to feed you lines at any point?
Speaker 2: Yes we can. And my editor is amazing and can
Speaker 2: cut whatever but it's better if you kind of know
Speaker 2: what we're going to be doing, which is why I
Speaker 2: give you a script. Ugh uh so.
Speaker 1: Let me You have worked on some of my favorite sites,
Speaker 1: and this isn't an insult to those sites. But I
Speaker 1: say say, there's tiers, right. Your top tier are your brawsers,
Speaker 1: your teams, all that stuff, right. Your bottom tier is
Speaker 1: like a guy fucking his college girlfriend with like Metallica
Speaker 1: playing in the background, and you're like, oh, that, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's licensed. I don't. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can use that. But the middle tier, and it's not
Speaker 1: about you know, it's more just how far the reach is.
Speaker 1: I love that middle tier. I live in that middle tier.
Speaker 1: You shot for the two I believe Ossiani sites right
Speaker 1: ye aptly named Glory Whole Secrets and the pretty direct
Speaker 1: and straightforward Gang Bang cream Pie. Your stuff is and
Speaker 1: this is not insult to them at all. It's more polished.
Speaker 1: It's more polished. Do you also like the more mid
Speaker 1: tier stuff, the stuff that's just kind of going at it?
Speaker 1: Does it feel raw to you at all? Or do
Speaker 1: is that not really your preference in what you're seeing?
Speaker 2: So for my own personal content, I like to having
Speaker 2: a little bit more polished. But I would love going
Speaker 2: on sets like that's me, just my personality. Like what
Speaker 2: you saw on those scenes, that's me on any given day.
Speaker 2: Like if someone was to come over and like weird,
Speaker 2: it's like padded out, I would act, you know, similar,
Speaker 2: I would. I would be a little bit more like
Speaker 2: I'm more open to the camera like angling and whatever
Speaker 2: when we're doing something like that. But like it's me
Speaker 2: my personality, like with the intensity and kind of like
Speaker 2: with Gangered and Creeper, I think I was like bent
Speaker 2: over backwards at one point and the guy's like like
Speaker 2: you know, fucking dick, like taking it down my throat
Speaker 2: all the way and like all that stuff Like that's
Speaker 2: where I live. That's my happy place, Like I'm happy there.
Speaker 2: So I love doing scenes like that. I'd liked. I
Speaker 2: liked shooting for facial abuse. I liked shooting for them.
Speaker 2: I I do not like puke content. That's not my thing.
Speaker 2: But the deep dirting, the intensity and all that I'm
Speaker 2: built for it. I like it. I enjoy it. I'm
Speaker 2: not so much into marking or spanking or getting like
Speaker 2: you know, bitten and like because I just proves easily
Speaker 2: like a banana. But they're the guys on set. They're nice.
Speaker 2: They it's all in act. They're acting. It's all acting.
Speaker 2: White people think that they're terrible work like that. They're mean,
Speaker 2: and like as soon as the camera's going, yes, they're
Speaker 2: full on because we're acting. As soon as the camera's
Speaker 2: not rolling, they walk away, they hang out, we're just talking.
Speaker 2: It was like a really fun, enjoyable shoot. Both times
Speaker 2: I did it, Am I going to probably do it again? No,
Speaker 2: just because like you know, there's a connotation with that
Speaker 2: kind of studio, not that I wish that there wasn't.
Speaker 2: I wish you could shoot anything you wanted and it
Speaker 2: would be fine. But I'm trying to be a little
Speaker 2: bit more polished now and be seen as more than
Speaker 2: just in a you know, raw aggressive former because at
Speaker 2: one point I would like the opportunity to get on
Speaker 2: like a Vixen set or like Shoot for Black or
Speaker 2: any of those companies, because I think that I have
Speaker 2: a lot of offer and I think I would do
Speaker 2: a good job. But you know, sometimes it's the same
Speaker 2: with like Rebel Rider. She does a lot of intense,
Speaker 2: very you know, hardcore stuff, and you get put in
Speaker 2: a box, like I was going to hire this one
Speaker 2: woman for one of the series I'm producing, it's a
Speaker 2: girl girl series. And around that time, my timeline was
Speaker 2: being filled with the stuff I had done in Prog,
Speaker 2: so the you know, the piss content, the del lanels
Speaker 2: and the fisting and all the craziness, and like, her
Speaker 2: agency calls me back and it's like, hey, so she
Speaker 2: has some hesitations of shooting with you because she's afraid
Speaker 2: it's going to be really aggressive and really intense. And
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, she probably saw my timeline and
Speaker 2: saw like what I'd been doing in Prague, and I
Speaker 2: was like, let me explain what she's going to be doing.
Speaker 2: It is a cute, fun, scripted girl rol content. I
Speaker 2: basically steal women from men and it's great, we have
Speaker 2: a great time. A lot of it has to do
Speaker 2: with the store, relying in the hook of everything, the
Speaker 2: furthest we're gonna go as a strap on. But it's
Speaker 2: it's just about image and perception. So it's like she
Speaker 2: saw that on my timeline and automatically assumed that's what
Speaker 2: I would be having her do too, you know, And
Speaker 2: if I had been I would have been up from
Speaker 2: been like Hey, so we're gonna do some crazy stuff today.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna put colored
Speaker 2: animas in there, and we're gonna have a great time,
Speaker 2: you know whatever craziness you know. But I it's just
Speaker 2: crazy to me that you can be put in a
Speaker 2: box as like a performer just because you do this
Speaker 2: one thing one time, And like, I would rather be
Speaker 2: known as a performer who can do it all. I
Speaker 2: can do the cute, see fun stuff, I could do
Speaker 2: the intense acting, and then I can do a hardcore,
Speaker 2: really crazy scene. And I don't know what production company
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to have someone in their pocket like that
Speaker 2: that can do everything, you know for sure.
Speaker 1: One last question here to wrap this up. Is there
Speaker 1: an exit plan at all? Or is this for life?
Speaker 1: Are you sixty five shooting guilf porn.
Speaker 2: I think if I was to continue this for life,
Speaker 2: I would become like sheerly just director producer at that point,
Speaker 2: so I would take off the talent, or maybe I
Speaker 2: would just do narrative roles once I'm old, like too
Speaker 2: old to be. You know, there's never an age that
Speaker 2: you're not too old to be, you know, seeing sexy,
Speaker 2: but there is an age at a certain point you're like,
Speaker 2: maybe I don't want to be in front of the
Speaker 2: camera anymore. I think that I if I was to
Speaker 2: continue doing this for the rest of my career, I
Speaker 2: would go more into the director producer role and step
Speaker 2: away from being talent. I would probably want to find
Speaker 2: sign a contract star who's someone who could fill my shoes,
Speaker 2: someone who would be basically me and a lot of
Speaker 2: my scenes just because I star in all of them.
Speaker 2: So for me, the life of me, I don't know
Speaker 2: who that would be that would be able to bring
Speaker 2: the energy and the creativeness and just kind of like
Speaker 2: me to life and all of my scenes. I'm sure
Speaker 2: someone like that exists and I could probably find them,
Speaker 2: but that would probably be if I do this on term,
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But for me, it's more like
Speaker 2: I'm already planning my exit strategy. I'm planning for retirement.
Speaker 2: I'm you know, investing, you know, maxing my ira like,
Speaker 2: you know, doing all these things that I need to.
Speaker 2: So at a certain point when I'm forty forty five,
Speaker 2: then the money's right and I can just be like
Speaker 2: I'm done, and I can just walk away and I
Speaker 2: can do you know, I paint in my free time.
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of time to paint anymore.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of other hobbies I like to do.
Speaker 2: I would like to have a chance to kind of
Speaker 2: be like I want to travel, I want to paint,
Speaker 2: and then you know, the money's right and I don't
Speaker 2: have to work anymore.
Speaker 1: So you know why you have the ability to do
Speaker 1: that and plan that, right?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 1: Because this is a job. It is yep, And that's
Speaker 1: what happens at the end of a job.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Hopefully not for me. I'm going to die at a desk,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing is, Like I make this
Speaker 2: point we talk about in my podcast Deep Thoughts that
Speaker 2: kind of like what would you like to have change
Speaker 2: in the adustory? And I have a little bit of
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say like controversial take, but I think the
Speaker 2: age for porn should be changed from eighteen to twenty
Speaker 2: one years old. I think you at eighteen don't know
Speaker 2: who the hell you are or what you want to
Speaker 2: do or anything about you. Like, at least at twenty one,
Speaker 2: maybe you went to college, maybe you figured out like
Speaker 2: maybe I want to be a school teacher, Maybe I
Speaker 2: want to do this. If you go into port at
Speaker 2: eighteen and then decide you want to go into education,
Speaker 2: that's not gonna like they could find out any point
Speaker 2: and fire you based on your past of what so,
Speaker 2: I think at eighteen you don't really even know what
Speaker 2: you want or what you want to do. You also
Speaker 2: don't really have the security in place to protect yourself,
Speaker 2: to be stand up for yourself, to be like, I'm
Speaker 2: no producer, don't do that, I don't like the way
Speaker 2: you're talking to me, don't touch me when we're not filming,
Speaker 2: like all these things that I think at twenty one
Speaker 2: you kind of have more of like a dad set
Speaker 2: of who you are. And I think at twenty one
Speaker 2: you still like young enough. You could play a young
Speaker 2: like eighteen nineteen year old. Not a big deal, but
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's a newer take on it
Speaker 2: because because there's a lot of older producers and directors
Speaker 2: that it's always been done a certain way. It's always
Speaker 2: been eighteen nineteen year olds and that's what they want,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: So great way to end it, ladies and gentlemen, We're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap this one up. My guest tonight, the host
Speaker 1: of the Deep Thoughts podcast Rey Ray. You can find
Speaker 1: links to all of our social media in the episode
Speaker 1: description as always, but please make sure you go out
Speaker 1: and check out her main sight, reraxxx dot com. Are
Speaker 1: we keeping that strictly porn or maybe we're gonna put
Speaker 1: some podcast videos on there too, or what are we doing?
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna keep them separate. So The Deep
Speaker 2: Thoughts is gonna be its own, separate on social media.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be associated with me and Rabel Ryder because
Speaker 2: she's also my co host on it, which is awesome
Speaker 2: great we kind of together bring that podcast to life
Speaker 2: as well as my other host is a non industry
Speaker 2: person who brings their perspective who's a comedian, so he
Speaker 2: brings the full and we have the full like range
Speaker 2: of everything that's going on. And so I'm going to
Speaker 2: keep that separate, but I'm gonna definitely promote it and
Speaker 2: it's going to have its own kind of platform everything
Speaker 2: for it. But it's gonna be from the minds of
Speaker 2: me and Rebel Writer and my other good friend Kevin
Speaker 2: so well.
Speaker 1: Depending on when you're listening to this, folks, as I
Speaker 1: update the things when they change, check the episode description
Speaker 1: for links to all of the Deep Thoughts podcasts stuff. Okay, Rareck,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on with me night.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, anytime. That was amazing. Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 2: I did my research. I like. I love listening to podcast,
Speaker 2: especially when I'm working out. I love it. I think
Speaker 2: what you're doing is great and you should keep doing
Speaker 2: it because it's awesome.
Speaker 1: So yeah, wonderful compliment. We'll see you next week, folks,