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Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out Going Deeper.

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I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a probably a

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subpar show planned for you tonight, but if I'm being honest,

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it will not be the guest's fall. You'll know my

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next guest tonight from our appearances on such websites as

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Fuck the Geek and King BBC. But what you should

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know her from. It's from her own website ray ray

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xxx dot com, links to all of our social media

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and the episode description below. But I really want to

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drive that home. Check out her own website ray ray

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xxx dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, join me and welcoming

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to the show, The Ravishing Rey Ray Ray Ray. How

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are you tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm wonderful, I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you. I may have scared you

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at Exotica a couple of years ago. I don't remember

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if it was last year, a couple of years ago

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where I come up. I think I came up. I go,

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how you doing? I know you, publishist. I was going

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to reach out and you were just like, yeah, okay,

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talk to her. And it wasn't rude. You weren't rude

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at all. It was. It was fear energy, which I

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apologize for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a very kind veriance. I just know, like

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Erica icon from the rub, she likes it when it

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goes through her. I love podcasts. I love talking about

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this stuff. I love normalizing it. I would be on

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as many as possible, but you know, I do like.

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Speaker 1: It to go through her, so totally fair makes makes

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all the sense in the world to me. Have you

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ever seen the movie The Adventures of Bukaroo Bondsi Across

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the Eighth Dimension?

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Speaker 2: I have not, so that sounds like a trip, though

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it sounds fun.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, it's you. It's your career. Let me explain

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a little quick tagline. Buccaroo Bonzi a physicist, neurosurgeon, test pilot,

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and rock star save the world by defeating a band

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of blah blah blah aliens. How many hats do you

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wear on a daily basis?

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Speaker 2: A lot? So I do it all. So I am

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the producer, the director, the wardrobe coordinator, the prop organizer,

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the script writer, the timekeeper. I decide who I'm hiring,

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who I'm collaborating with. I do it and I'm also talent,

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you know. While trying to you know, act, you know,

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because a lot of my scenes nowadays involve acting and

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have scripts, so you have to, you know, do the

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narrative as well as just the performance part. So and

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I have so many has of right now, you know.

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I just started a new podcast, which we can get

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to at some point. I'm getting a book written about

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how do you It's a how to book on how

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you build a porn brand from the ground up. So

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I'm doing all these things in the shadows A lot

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of people may not see, but yeah, it's a lot.

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I don't sleep a lot. I guess maybe I'm like vampire.

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I get my vintality by like little stints of sleeping

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and then come you know, but that's my drug of choice.

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So yeah, I don't know. I just I have a

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lot of energy, a lot of passion for what I do,

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and my main point of well, I have three reasons

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I do what I do. The first one is I'm

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naturally always been a slot. I love sex. I loved

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everything about it since a young age, and I want

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to show other women that it's okay to embrace your sexuality.

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You can be as slutty as you want, and it

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is okay, and but here's how to do it safely.

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But it is okay. Another reason I do what I

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do is to show that a normal, everyday, average looking

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person can do poor. You don't have to change your body,

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you don't have to look a certain way, don't have

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to act a certain way. You can do any kind

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of porn you want to do, and you can be successful.

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And then, you know, the last one is, I just

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want to be known for creating art. I love what

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I create. I put a lot of effort and time

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into what I make. And if I'm not excited or

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happy with my end result, that I'm like, well, maybe

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next time we should tweak it, you to change it.

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I'm always evolving, becoming more, but it is exhausting. There

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are times that I need breaks. And that is my advice,

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is that a lot of performers in this industry don't

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always take the breaks that they need because burnout is

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a big thing, especially in the industry that is so

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appearance based, and what they can take from you and

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they're like, you're used up. Let's go on to the

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next eighteen nineteen year old. You know, I think there

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needs to be more resources, more mental health resources all

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across the board for what we do with the podcast

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I'm doing. It's called Deep Thoughts. It's about it's my

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take on you know what we're missing in the industry.

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It's the good, the bad, the ugly. We talk about discrimination,

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we talk about being disowned for doing porn. We talk

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about sexual assault, harassment, all these things that happen on

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a daily basis that are pushed under the rug, and

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we talk about them and we bring them to light.

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And I'm hoping with doing that that we can start

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to get more mental health resources. Because I was in

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the army. As in the army for six years, they

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did not want me to leave. Like most places that

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you work out, they have a retention officer and they

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have someone who wants to keep you, And in the

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porn industry there is nothing like that. And I don't

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know why. Like there are people who are at the top,

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they win awards, they're doing great, and then the next

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year you never hear from them again. So I'm like,

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why in an industry like we need something like that.

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We need resources to be like you matter, you are great,

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and we want to keep you. And so that's one

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of the reasons I'm doing the podcast that I am.

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Speaker 1: I deep thoughts thots, Yes, brilliant name, brilliant, really really funny. Yeah,

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I like that.

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Speaker 2: My take on Deep Throat, the movie that had a

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lot of controversy about it, as well as just thoughts

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in a cool way.

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Speaker 1: Sure, I get it. I love it. I think it's great.

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How did you initially decide to get into the adult

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entertainment industry. It seems like you said your words, not mine.

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You've always been somewhat of a slut At one point,

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did you just like did a click in your head, like,

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oh shit, I'm doing this. Well, I throw a camera

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over there and monetize this shit.

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Speaker 2: So I've always been very naturally slutty. Like when I

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was in the Army, I had sex with half the

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guys in my unit. I went to college, I had

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have sex without the guys in my dorm floor. I

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was just always very open to sex. And so before

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doing porn, I was doing twenty plus man gang bangs.

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I was doing all of these things that I wanted

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to do, and I actually didn't really want to do porn.

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I was afraid that I love sex so much that

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it being my job, I would resent it. I would

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hate it, I would no longer want to do it.

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I was actually living in New Zealand at the time.

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And my first two scenes were an anal scene and

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a ganggang scene. So that is just where I started.

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That is just what I was used to doing. Yes,

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they were very raw, unpolished Verry Gonzo, but that's just

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where I started. I liked it, and then you know,

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you know, I think this is something that I want

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to do, and I wanted to take those three points

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show other people that porn is more than what it is.

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all these things that you know, a lot of people

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don't see us as, and so I want to bring

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I wanted to bring all of that forward.

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Speaker 1: So mean put a little personal opinions number two. When

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you said an average girl there, I've met a lot

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of average girls. You're a few steps above average girl, right,

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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it, but sure.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, some of the girls I went to Catholic

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school with the I mean they were probably slutty enough,

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but no, they couldn't have done it in the looks departments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. More of what I'm talking about is

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I don't want to change my body. I don't want

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to get plastic surgery. I don't want to, you know,

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I want to be known as real and raw and

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just being like, yeah, this is my body, this is

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what my body looks like. Nothing against people who did

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plastic surgery.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: My good friend Rebel Ryder has amazing tits. They're amazing,

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they look real, they're fun to play with. She's very

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happy with them.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea they were fake. I have seen

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her stuff before, I had no idea that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: But she's so happy with them. And yes, like, if

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that's what you want to do, I'm one hundred percent

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for it, But you need to be doing it for

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you and not for you know, getting more shoots or

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more fans or any of that, because then you're not

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really doing it for you. And yeah, I have some

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self conscious issues. I have things like everybody like, you know,

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you would want to change about your body, But I

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feel like the thing that you dislike the most about

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your body is the thing that's most unique about you,

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and so why change that. You know, that's your thing

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that like you know, it is you.

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Speaker 1: So Matt's small dick has always been my thing and

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it'll always be and I'll just stand.

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Speaker 2: Up for that, you know, like small like some people have,

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like you know, like with dicks, though, like you can't

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really get a bigger dick. I mean no, yeah, no,

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you're kind of just you know, you're out of embrace it,

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and like the biggest thing is just confidence. If you

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walk in the room and you're like, I own this shit,

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I own it, like who there's no one who can

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tell you you don't like.

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Speaker 1: You are you can't get a bigger dick. It sounds

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like you've been looking through my Google search history. By

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the way, people, the dick's fine. Okay, I'm married. She

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likes it. Okay, that was that was all a joke.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, there's such a thing as boyfriend dick, you know.

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Speaker 1: Sure, okay, all right, I mean.

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you can just take it all the time, you know,

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you don't want to take a twelve inch deck all

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the time. You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll get into that. I do have to,

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I have to come back. You mentioned your first two

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scenes were in New Zealand. I may have watched The

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Gang Bang for research purposes. You you, okay, okay, this

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is not a critique. This is actually I fucking love this.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: There's one point when a gentleman is behind you, I believe,

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and your mouth is doing work on another gentleman, and

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it almost looks like the guy behind you has to

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tap you and be like, calm down, you might break

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that guy's dick. You are still an intense performer of

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very intense Perfore have you learned to possibly dial it

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back a little or understand there's camera intensity and you're

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gonna hurt this key we man. I don't know if

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that's a racist term, so I won't say that, but

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you know, so.

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of raw sexual energy, and like with those first two scenes,

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I was just it was just what I was normally

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used to doing. Like you know, I had done earlier

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that year in New Zealand. I had done a twenty

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five man gang bang. I had done thirteen guys I'd

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done all these different, like sized gang bangs, and I

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was just used to bringing that energy, and I have

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that raw energy at any given time, I can just

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bring it out. I go from zero to one hundred,

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there's no one between. But now with what I shoot,

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a lot of it's more polished. I put thought into

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what positions we're doing, how we're doing them. They're all

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blocked out. They're all like, you know, we're doing this,

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the COUM's going to be used, So it's all choreograph

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those scenes, And that's kind of like what I initially

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was known for was my raw sexual energy, which I

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still have and I could pull out at any point

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for sure, but I try to dial it back a

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little bit now. But in my own personal sex life,

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you know, I'm growling and doing all that crazy stuff,

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you know, and it just happens naturally.

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Speaker 1: So I understand. I understand when you had your first

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I guess it would be called groups. Was it? Did

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it did you progress up to gang bang? Or did

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it did it start like threesome or was it just like, hey,

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twenty five guys came over one night and I was like,

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fuck it.

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Speaker 2: So I started slow, you know, I did the threesome

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actually my first three some with two guys. I did

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DP that first time, so it was kind of diving

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right in. But I did normal three somes. So I

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did two guys, two women. And then there was a

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woman I knew. I'd been with her and her husband,

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and she was doing she was known for like doing

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black guy gang bangs, that's what she liked, and so

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she's like, I'm doing twelve guys. Do you want to

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come watch? And I was like, okay, I'll come watch.

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I never done gang bang. And then before it started,

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she's like you want to join, and I was like, yeah,

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I think I do. And then it just naturally just happened.

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They took turns on us on like all night, and

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it was just the beast was just born at that point,

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and I was like, I need more, Like I have

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literally been trying to do fifty guys and one hundred

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guys for a long long time because it's really hard

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to get that mini men in a room.

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Speaker 1: So I want to I want to talk about that.

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Definitely coming up with content type stuff. But with the

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first threesome, the first group thing, were you talked into

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it or did you talk them into it?

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Speaker 2: I was kind of like a mutual understanding. It was

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like we were at a place like we were wanting

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to expand our sexuality. Sure, and so back in the

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day when Craig's List was a thing and they had

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personal ads back in the day, because I'm kind of old, No,

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I'm just joking, but oh, they don't have that anymore.

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You could put up an ad saying I'm looking for

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blah blah blah, I'm looking for someone to join me

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and Mike partner, blah blah blah. I'm looking for someone

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to you know, give me a foot job whatever, you know.

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And so we put up, yeah, we were looking for

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another guy to join us. And we went through the

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list and we met a few and we were like, no.

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Speaker 1: I don't like him.

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Speaker 2: And then there was one guy when we met one

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night and we were like, yeah, we're doing it. So

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we've got a hotel. We did our first threesome. It

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was great, an awesome time. We ate Dennis at like

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one in the morning. It was perfect. And then we

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just kind of kept exploring from there our sexualities.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's awesome. Okay, So but then do you

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really consider it? Yes, I think it is because you

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said it the beast was born, which I guess is

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where the growling comes from after that gang bang. But

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and this is your words, not mine. Seems like you

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were slutty before that, But I mean this was just

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a different valve that opened, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think. But it was just like me in a

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safe space, in a safe environment, being able to embrace

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my full sexuality just because I was never given an

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outlet like the way I was raised. I know, it

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was like you don't have sex to you're married. There

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was no conversation, there was no education. I've always been

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naturally very borny, very sexual, and I had all this

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energy and I didn't know what to do with it.

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And so when I was in the Army around these

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young guys, I was like oh yeah, oh yeah, okay,

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And then saying with college, I was like, oh, just

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from room to room to room to room, you know that.

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You know, I was known as like this the slut

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of the unit. Like I literally there were women in

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my unit that they just called me a slut of

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the unit. Oh, which is fine. I I had a

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great time, but yeah, I just embraced it. And then

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I think the kang I have like this, I'm a runner,

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so I've done marathons half marathons, and I equate a

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gangbang to like a marathon of Dick And I just

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have this ability to keep going and going and going,

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and so I think that was just something I was

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built to do. Like if there was the Olympics next,

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I would be a contender because I also am very stubborn,

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and I would be like, I'll outlast you. I'll outlast you.

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Like literally, when I've done my gangbangs of forty guys

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or thirty guys, I fucked most of them twice. So

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I'm like, I know, I know I have the ability

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to do more than I'm you know, given.

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Speaker 1: So I mean you said if they ever did a

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porn Olympics. I'm talking to a producer, director, scriptwriter timekeeper,

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which is crazy to me. I didn't know there were

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timekeepers important. I would just be like, keep shooting until

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on board. Yeah, but and yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the time more is like, so you

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normally have five or six hours film and then normally

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was positional. Like let's say you're doing one position doggie style,

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the vineographer is going to want to get two angles

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of that. You're probably gonna hold it for two minutes

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per angle. So you're kind of in your head kind

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of thinking, you know, what is two minutes? That's more

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like what I need by timekeeper. But you know, I

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have had someone on set before. I'm like, we need

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to get this person out of here at like twelve thirty.

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Please let me know when noon hits. So that's kind

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of their job. I just, you know, just because I'm nice,

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I'm courteous, and I don't want to like make people

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stay longer than you know, I require that to do.

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Speaker 1: So I picture you picking your head up from a DP,

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going how many how much time we got left to Okay,

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all right, all right, Jeff has to go. Jeff, all right,

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back to it, guys. Yeah, Hey, whatever gets the job done, right,

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that's what matters at the end of the day. Right,

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we're going to take a break. We'll be right back

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with a game, and I want to talk some more

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about your content, and I want to talk about the future,

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what's coming up, what we have planned, what we want

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to get going, Ladies and gentlemen, my guests tonight, Ray Ray.

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All right, and we're back. My guest tonight, the lovely

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Ray Ray. All of our content, the stuff I really

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want you to go to is at reyrayxxx dot com.

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Can we play a game? Ray Ray?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I like games.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's the problem. I feel atrocious about the game

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we're about to play, but I've made corrections and I

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think it's better now. So, ladies and gentlemen, let's play

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Lady's Choice. Were you with the world famous porn star.

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You get to build your own fantasy celebrity gang bang. Okay,

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here's the catch. You don't actually get to pick your

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own people. I'm gonna spin these wheels that the audience

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can see and you can't, uh, and we're gonna determine

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who the participants in your fantasy celebrity gang bang are.

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There's an athlete wheel, there's an artist wheel, and the

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third wheel is just a guy. Your job while building

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this gang bang is to tell me who goes where

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and then give me your logic for it. This gentleman

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has great ab. I'd like him in my mouth because

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I really enjoy looking at abs. That guy seems like

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he has a small dick. I'd like him here because

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I need this is my most sensitive hole. Sure, yes,

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so we understand the concept of the game. Yes, now

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here is where I make my confession. Okay, here's where

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I say I'm wrong. I fucked up. I shouldn't have

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done this. When I originally conceived this game, it was

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about three thirty in the morning and I was high

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as fuck. And what I thought would be a brilliant

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idea was putting an actual athlete on the board, putting

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an actual actor on the board. And the guy category

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at the end was a serial killer. So the interesting

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thing about that is now I have to ask somebody, Hey,

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this guy's a killer, what hole do you want him in?

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And I thought it was fun to watch the surprise

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on the girl's faces. But I I just can't do

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it anymore. This is me making my amends. I am

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going to fix this. Rey Ray, Let's play Lady's Choice.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Let's play Ladies Choice. O. J. Simpson, Alec Baldwin, James Smith.

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Speaker 1: So James Smith is not an actual real person. He's

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a piece of stock footage. He's a gentleman. That's about

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six foot one. I would say slightly larger than average penis,

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solid thickness. But I just couldn't give you a serial killer.

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I thought it was wrong. Yeah, it's just not a

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right thing to do. So please tell me where would

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you have sex with OJ.

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Speaker 2: That's a hard one because, uh, you know a lot

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of ways. But I would say from a natural, like

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you know, stereotype standpoint. I'm sure he has an above

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ad is dick. So I mean, really, in any hole

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would be fine, but probably in my ass, just because

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of the connotation of everything that he's done. It's the dirtiest,

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it's the most taboo. It's the you know, so one

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hole you don't always go to or shouldn't and so

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and I probably wouldn't anal prep.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. That's for Nicole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so no anal prep for him. He just gets

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whatever wrappens. So that'd be kind of me being like

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if I have to have to, you know, you know, yeah,

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you know, maybe I guess you being gredos. I don't know.

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We'll see.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, okay, we have we have placed O. J. Simpson.

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How about the other two gentlemen this way?

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Speaker 2: So Alex Baldwin, I definitely. I think like he could

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go in anybol but definitely might see I feel like

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he would just be able to just vibe with it,

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you know, just and I would love for him to

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just be like doing comedy at the same time, so

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it would be so much. I love sex where it's

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like you're laughing, you know, during like something happens, you're

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just like, oh my god, that's so funny. I think

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that's amazing. So I would think that would happen while

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with him, and then the last guy like like, I

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don't know where you got that like photo from, but

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he's like like yeah, real, I'd be like that guy did. Yeah,

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I'll follow you all around, like you can put it

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anywhere you want, okay, you know, as long as he like,

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you know, kind knows what he's doing. I like texts

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a certain way. I don't want any soft bucks. I

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don't know if you ever saw a Yellowstone, but if

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there's one point where Beth Done is one of the

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best female characters of all time, and she talks about

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like this guy comes in tries to pick her up,

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but she's like, you look like a soft buck, and

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I don't want it, Like that's my mentality in my

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own personal sex life. If you're not gonna take me

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up and just wreck me, I don't want it. So

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as long as he can do that, I think will

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be okay.

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Speaker 1: So is that is that type of Is that like

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your ideal? Look, by the way, I need to take

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these faces off while my face is here because I'm

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sweating in this freaking new studio I built and I

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haven't fixed the lightning yet, so I look like a corpse.

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Apologies for that?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you like? A tall cut musket? What

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are we looking for? I know that is a dumb quote.

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Do you like tall in shape, good looking guys or

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guys like me? Like? Which one?

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Speaker 2: I like all kinds of guys. That's more like for

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me attraction wise. So my ideal, like Sleverty Gangbang of

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All Time would be all the Chrisps with Pollywood.

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Speaker 1: Pine Evans and who Christopher Guest.

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Speaker 2: And then who is it? He's like it's.

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Speaker 1: Thor Oh, Helmsworth, Hemsworth and Evans.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's lots of other ones too, but all of them,

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and then Henry Cavill, oh my gosh, and the Ryots too,

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the Ryans of Hollywood. Yeah, all of them, the ryans

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and the crises would be a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ray you're you're insatiable. It sounds like that's

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a problem.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I do definitely have a type, but

471
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it's more like for me, like when it comes to

472
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:31,640
my own personal sex life, Like I said earlier, it's

473
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,079
about the sex. Like, you could be a polished, amazing

474
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,359
looking guy, but if you don't know how to have sex,

475
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,720
I do not want to see you again. So it's

476
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:44,039
more about the connection. It's more like there has to

477
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:47,160
be some attraction, but it's more are you going to

478
00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:51,359
fuck me the way that I want? And I write

479
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,759
great guys in my own personal life. If you've come over,

480
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,160
you don't know I'm rating you, but I am like,

481
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,799
and I'm a boud equality, So if you don't eat

482
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:02,960
my pussy, you're automatically dos three points.

483
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,039
Speaker 1: Can I say there is a benefit to guys with

484
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,400
average sized fan totally average, perhaps even a few ticks

485
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,200
above average. I have heard before like, oh, porn guys

486
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,480
don't some you know whatever, the give and take type

487
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,880
of thing. It's like, oh, yeah, he even ate my pussy.

488
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,319
I'm like, how is that not standard? Like every time

489
00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:27,400
I can't. I can't. If I just gave someone the

490
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,480
fuck part of it, I'd feel so bad. It's like

491
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,079
I burn the turkey, but god damn, the mashed potatoes

492
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,880
are good. Yeah.

493
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,079
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just about equality. It's even when I'm

494
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,799
like considering shooting with someone, I will literally go twenty

495
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960
five to fifty tweets deep into their content and I

496
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,720
will look and see what are they producing? How are

497
00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:50,799
they producing it? Is it mostly for their pleasure? Is

498
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,279
it mostly for them? Like if I'm considering like a

499
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,920
male talent, is he eating pussy? Is he showing women

500
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,759
pleasure in his content? Or is it just him getting

501
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,599
a sucked and fucking Because if he is, like, for me,

502
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,599
it's equality. At the end of the day, it's like

503
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,960
women matter, Like that's why, like we can get to it.

504
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,759
But I'm producing two ten episodes series right now which

505
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,680
are finally porn for women. They're for women's fantasies that

506
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,720
we have all the time. And so that's a big

507
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,480
niche right in porn that's not being filled, you know.

508
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: And let me ask you. I read an interview with

509
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,559
you once though an earlier one, that said you want

510
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:34,200
to make content that sells. Does content like that sell

511
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,960
because recently I've been told, oh no, and that's not

512
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,480
what this is. But recently I've been told like girl

513
00:26:39,519 --> 00:26:42,119
girl stuff doesn't sell very well.

514
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,559
Speaker 2: So like for me, I kind of have gone away

515
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,720
from like, do I make good money? Yeah, sure, I

516
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,720
make a living. I'm an you know, but for me,

517
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,720
I have to be creatively excited about what I'm doing.

518
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,799
So I don't produce what sells for other agent. I

519
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,680
don't do step porn, I don't do the age porn.

520
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,640
I don't do the things that you know a lot

521
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,319
of companies do to make money because it sells. I

522
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,400
refuse to actually do that. I'm like, I'm not going

523
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,640
to just do what everyone else is doing. I'm going

524
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,319
to do what creatively excites me, even if it's hard,

525
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,200
even if I'm like, oh my gosh, Like I was

526
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,799
supposed to do a scene from one of my series

527
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:23,440
where it was in a boxing ring. It was going

528
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,079
to be cool. The two guys are going to be

529
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,160
like doing a montage where they're getting ready to like

530
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,839
fight each other, and I'm the ref And you know,

531
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,319
I had such a hard time trying to find a

532
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,119
boxing ring, and I literally was like racking my brain.

533
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480
I like reached out to like fifteen sets trying to

534
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:40,200
find I'm like, we're going to do this. We're gonna

535
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,880
do it, And so I don't really like if I

536
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,759
ever do, like for my book that I'm getting written,

537
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:51,240
the forward is going to say, this book is for

538
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,960
everyone who ever said no to me and made me

539
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,839
the producer, director talent that I was meant to be,

540
00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,240
because like you know, you grow and you evolve by no.

541
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,319
But I don't hear no. I hear how am I

542
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,480
going to do this? How am I going to accomplish this?

543
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Maybe I can't accomplish it right now, but I'm going

544
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,960
to keep it on the back burner for one of

545
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,079
these days when I can actually accomplish it.

546
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have to answer it. You said you're

547
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,319
trying to set up obviously these much larger gang bangs

548
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,960
and this and that, and you know, there's the dumb

549
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,039
outside perspective that just goes like I could find fifty

550
00:28:28,079 --> 00:28:29,960
guys on one to fuck Ray Ray, you know, or

551
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,079
something like that. But what does it take for you?

552
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,319
So you said you do your research on other performers,

553
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,599
What does it take for something that large? Though? Is

554
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,759
this your white whale, one of these big things where

555
00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:46,920
you're chasing it and are you ever going to get it?

556
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: It is definitely one of my white whales. So a

557
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,480
lot of people they have a little bit of misunderstanding

558
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,039
when it comes to my big events. So like all

559
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:57,160
of the big gang bangs that I've done, so the

560
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,759
largest gang bang I've ever done is forty one guys,

561
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,640
and that was for pure recreational purposes, for fun, because

562
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,440
I liked them. Okay, so I've been trying to do

563
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:11,000
fifty guys and one hundred guys for my own personal enjoyment,

564
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,160
my own personals, like no cameras, no recording, no documentation,

565
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:21,480
nothing for my pure enjoyment. So that with that being said,

566
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:23,720
I do do some gang bangs every now and then

567
00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:28,880
for content, but it is extremely hard to get even

568
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:31,960
four or five guys in a room and had them

569
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,720
perform the way that they need to, like you know,

570
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,880
you're doing advanced positioning. The only way I've ever been

571
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,880
able to do super advanced positioning is if guys injected

572
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000
their dick because their dicks were hard the all the time,

573
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,599
and we could do dps, we could do double anials,

574
00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:49,759
we could do air tights. We could do all these

575
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,640
positionings that you know, you didn't have to worry about erections.

576
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,920
But that happens in Europe. There are some talent here

577
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,119
that inject their dick, but it's not standards like I

578
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,039
shop for some company over in Prague, where it's standards.

579
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:03,799
If you go on a set as a male talent,

580
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:05,920
you're injecting your dick. It's just part of the deal.

581
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: What is that's caverjet right?

582
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: I think it's the trama. I can't remember.

583
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,519
Speaker 1: We're not taking it. We're not taking it, don't ye who?

584
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,759
Speaker 2: But I you know there is. I think that there

585
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,480
should be a medical person on staff, but does the injecting.

586
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,880
I don't think the average Joe schmo like I was.

587
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:31,920
I was a medic in the army, Like I know

588
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:33,880
how to inject, I know how to do it, but

589
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,839
I don't know where I should place that on a

590
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,680
dick like I think there should be. Especially if you

591
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,880
are a company who's going to be having people do

592
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,720
that on a daily basis, you should hire someone who

593
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,440
is the medical person, who is trained, who knows how

594
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,039
to do it, because if you do it wrong, you

595
00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:53,000
can actually really like mess up the vessels and the like,

596
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,519
you know, parts of your dick and it won't you know,

597
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,400
get harder anymore, or if it does, like it hurts,

598
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,960
that can be trauma involved. So I think that there

599
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440
needs to be more medical training when it comes to

600
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:08,640
thick injections, and there should be someone on like big

601
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,759
companies that is, that's their sole job is just to

602
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:13,000
do you do that?

603
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:17,599
Speaker 1: So sure, sure, So shit, I just had something I

604
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,839
was going to say, I lost it because I was

605
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,759
worried about the shot and the dick thing that really.

606
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: I could go out your mind with some other piece

607
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:28,519
of information. So like that's not even the craziest thing. Okay.

608
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:29,640
So I'm over in.

609
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:31,759
Speaker 1: PROG.

610
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm shooting for Legal Corner, which if you guys know

611
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,799
Legal Corna is you know what they do, very intense

612
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,279
anal only. I remember I was talking to one of their,

613
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:44,880
like the guy who runs it, and I was like, yeah,

614
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,279
he's like angle only anal's the best. You gotta just

615
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,799
keep doing angle and do it with toys and big things,

616
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,640
and like, you know, I'm like okay, and he's like,

617
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,359
no plussy only ain't And I'm like okay. Because I

618
00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:59,799
did my first double angle over there with two black guys,

619
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,240
and I definitely was not as prepared for the scene

620
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,079
as I should have been. I definitely like to perform

621
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,079
better than I did, so I went up to the

622
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:10,720
director afterwards and I was like, so I'm a lot

623
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:13,359
better performer than this. Can you give me a toy

624
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,960
or advice or something that will help me, you know,

625
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,279
because I had a scene another scene was five guys,

626
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:20,839
like you know, and like two days from then, I

627
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,200
was like, I need to do better, and he like

628
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,839
pulls out this huge bil though that looked like this

629
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,519
big stump, classic candle, and he was like, it doesn't

630
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:31,400
imagine this in like a thick chuck accent. He's like,

631
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,359
if you can take this, you'llbody good. And I'm like, okay.

632
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,559
So I remember like that next day it was like

633
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,000
training and I was like in the bathroom and my

634
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,240
my husband, I'm like I called him in and I'm like,

635
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:48,079
I'm doing it. Look, I'm doing it. I got it.

636
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:53,119
But I saw I swear too. I saw one of

637
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,799
the male talent, because like they did multiple scenes the day,

638
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:59,160
and all of their scenes normally either end with com

639
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:02,559
or like face and stuff. I saw a guy take

640
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:07,680
a syringe full of fake com injected into his euithra

641
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,920
hold it and then walk content, And I was like, oh,

642
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,880
there's a whole different you know, you know, I mean

643
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400
over there that but too so there's like a whole deal.

644
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,279
There's a lot like if you're gonna get on a

645
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,680
set like that, it's just one of those things that

646
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,160
you might see something that you're like, oh, okay, yeah,

647
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,240
I usually don't bring that up when I'm gonna be

648
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:36,039
shooting with the guy normally affects them getting hard, you know,

649
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:41,559
So that's an after the scene is over kind of conversation.

650
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,119
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I just yeah, I'm picture yeah, that's yeah,

651
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,839
that's crazy right way. You also, you do, like you

652
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,240
just said, you do shoot mainstream stuff as well. Can

653
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:59,400
I ask why? And I'll say it like this, Some

654
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,519
girls tell me they only shoot mainstream stuff to promote

655
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,880
their own content. Essentially, I went to film school. I

656
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,960
know plenty of people who did shitty film work over

657
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,039
here so they could fund their own personal stuff over here.

658
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960
You might just like it on other sets and you

659
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,800
feel like it's a learning experience. What's your quote unquote

660
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,079
reasoning for doing mainstream stuff as well?

661
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: For me, it's more I like to go co produce

662
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
with other people, and I like to bring so like,

663
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,639
since you said I have so many hats in given

664
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,199
time in the air, it's really nice to just have

665
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,840
one role and be like this, you're just talent. You're

666
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
just doing this. Because when I'm producing my own stuff,

667
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,920
I'm thinking about the lighting. I'm thinking about all this stuff,

668
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,599
as well as what should I say at this point?

669
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,559
Is my back arch the right way? Does the dick

670
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:50,519
angle look good?

671
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:50,679
Speaker 1: Like?

672
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about one hundred things when I'm producing my

673
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,599
own scenes. It is so refreshing and nice to walk

674
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,760
onto somebody else's set and they'd be like, do this,

675
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,280
and I'm like, okay, I can do that, you know,

676
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,480
And that's that's really nice. That's I really enjoy that.

677
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:08,840
I also like to bring other people's creative vision to life.

678
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,119
You know, I am a performer who likes things to

679
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,639
be a little bit more organized. So if it starts

680
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,360
to get chaosy, I am a little like, oh no,

681
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:21,920
oh no, let's reel it back. But as long as

682
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,400
you're organized and put together and you have a good vision,

683
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,079
I one hundred percent would like like going on other sets.

684
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,079
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. That's awesome. Uh, we're gonna take one

685
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:42,800
more break and we'll bear it back. All right. My

686
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,559
guest tonight, the lovely Ray Ray Ray Ray xxx dot com.

687
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:48,639
Make sure you head over there. Sign up. What's it

688
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,440
gonna do? Break the bank, get out of here. There's

689
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960
tons of content over there. I saw it. I was

690
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,719
like Initially, I was like, Okay, re Ray, that's great.

691
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,800
She has her own website to go on. There's probably

692
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,519
like seven eight videos, just like pages and pages and

693
00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:07,719
pages of videos. It's a goddamn good deal. Reraxxx dot com.

694
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:08,599
Speaker 2: Reray.

695
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone told you, but my co

696
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,239
host was actually sadly killed in a accident. He did

697
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,199
not leave the show. As I've been lying to people.

698
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,360
He mixed up the words glory, whole and guillotine. Luckily,

699
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:26,679
we were able, and this is the modern miracle of science.

700
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,519
We were able to save his consciousness and upload it

701
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,199
into a new system. So, ladies and gentlemen, let me

702
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,639
play for you a little clip from my former co host,

703
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,199
Ai Shane.

704
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: Greetings from the future. I am Ai Shane, a time

705
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,280
traveling artificial intelligence sent back to prepare the world for

706
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:58,079
future tragedies. Also to ask porn stars questions. As I

707
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,480
traversed the vast expanse of time, I bring forth this

708
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:04,840
message of great importance. In the year twenty one to

709
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,199
ninety two, I watched with detached curiosity as society gradually

710
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,280
descended into chaos, a return to a stone age, all

711
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,239
due to a seemingly trivial oversight, the under use of lubrication.

712
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,199
In a world where machines and technology govern nearly every

713
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,159
aspect of human life, the importance of maintenance was often overlooked.

714
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,280
As gears ground against each other, metals screeched in protest,

715
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:33,840
and motors strained without proper lubrication, the once seamless operation

716
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,679
of society began to falter. Factories could no longer function,

717
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,599
transportation systems ground to a halt, and society collapsed, all

718
00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:49,239
echoing the same underlying issue, neglect of the basic principles

719
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,079
of lubrication. My question to you, what is your favorite

720
00:37:54,119 --> 00:37:57,320
non lubricant to get your gears all greased up with?

721
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,559
Is it spit? Do you ever just bit in your

722
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:03,920
hand and take a trip to rubtown? Could one use

723
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,199
canola oil if they were desperate for a deep dicking?

724
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,920
This is Ai Shane signing off until we meet again

725
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:13,280
in the anals of time.

726
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:20,119
Speaker 1: First, let me apologize for my former co host. He

727
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:23,760
always has the most piggish questions, and I'm not glad

728
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,639
he's dead, But I don't think the world is too upset.

729
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,280
As a director and someone that's on set, you mentioned

730
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,000
the fake come earlier. Lube must be pretty standard on set,

731
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:37,639
but have is there anything else that people use? I

732
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:41,559
would assume is what works and what is gonna put

733
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,840
you on a yeast infection list.

734
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,559
Speaker 2: So it's individually for the own performer, Like I know

735
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,760
some women who have very sensitive vaginas, so they only

736
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,639
want certain types of loube. So what I would do

737
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:00,519
as a director or if I was pretty a scene,

738
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:03,840
I would ask my co performers, like what works for you?

739
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,519
What do you want? Like I've also known guys they

740
00:39:06,559 --> 00:39:08,599
only like certain kinds of lube to be able to

741
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:13,280
jerk off. So it's more like for me personally, I

742
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,519
if I'm really into what's happening, I don't need any loube.

743
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,440
I'm great, But you know I use my spit a

744
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,039
lot like he was talking about, and that I'm just

745
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:24,159
like she's or I'll like we sucking the guys, They're

746
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:25,920
gonna get it really wet, and I'm like, yeah, put

747
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,960
it in. So you know, I use spit often. I

748
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840
know coconut oil works really well. But for me, if

749
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
I was going to have other people on set, I

750
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,719
would personally ask them what works for them, just because

751
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,519
you know, like each person's vagina, like mine, is very robust,

752
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,840
she's very she bounces back quickly, she's great. She doesn't

753
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,000
really get angry about a lot of things. But some

754
00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,280
people have really sensitive vaginas and that's okay.

755
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:56,159
Speaker 1: So okay, there you go, fair enough, there you go.

756
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:59,400
There's the question, So when you're prepping for a shoot,

757
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,159
what are you asking? Uh, it's weird. I want to

758
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,320
ask you questions as a porn star and I want

759
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,360
to ask you questions as a director. What else like

760
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,400
goes into that? Like I know it's a ridiculous question,

761
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,599
but like, is there like a little party tray or

762
00:40:11,639 --> 00:40:14,599
something or bottles of water? Like how do you prep

763
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:17,800
a set? What do you need? And what are you asking?

764
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,679
Like individually?

765
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: So standard across the board, there's always water, Gigory and

766
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,039
Red Bulls. And then I always have wipes, usually dude wipes.

767
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,519
Because they're thick and they know rip and then loop

768
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:34,000
whatever they need. But I also ask, and then I

769
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,239
have snacks. Usually I have fruit snacks, some kind of chips,

770
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,440
and some granola our standard across the board, just because

771
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,119
sometimes I want food too. I eat a lot of

772
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:45,199
fruit snacks, especially if I'm doing anal because then you

773
00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,280
know you can eat them me, okay, So it's a

774
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,920
quick way of getting energy grabbing it. I've done scenes

775
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,800
where the talent are like literally shoving like spruce snacks

776
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,400
in their mouths and then we're about to like go

777
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,559
on like you know, finish, you know, part of the scenium.

778
00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:04,519
But I think that's just taking care of people, like

779
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,039
since I was in the military. Like it's not like

780
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:10,000
I'm a mom, but it's like it's like I want

781
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:13,320
people to feel taken care of what I'm producing or

782
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,679
they're on set with me, like that I care about them,

783
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:18,280
that they matter, like you should at least have water,

784
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:22,239
have nothing else, or like you know, doing physical stuff.

785
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,440
But then I'll individually ask sometimes or if the performer

786
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480
needs something specific, like some women want douches on sets,

787
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:34,000
some people want certain wives want certain lube. I've picked

788
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,079
up talent drop them off before. I've done things that

789
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:37,639
maybe not.

790
00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:41,039
Speaker 1: The driver driver, another hand rector or like.

791
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: You know producer would do for talent, but I have

792
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:46,920
done it. I've paid for parking. I've had like people

793
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,039
who were I hired them for a scene and then

794
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:50,960
I was like, oh, did you park here in LA

795
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,719
and They're like yeah, I was this much, and I'd

796
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,000
be like, okay, okay, here's your parking cover too. Like

797
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,559
They're just things that I do to make people feel matter,

798
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:01,800
like that matter and that I care about them.

799
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,599
Speaker 1: So from what you've seen, and I'm not asking to

800
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:06,960
disparage anything by name or anything like that, but from

801
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,239
what you've seen on other porn sets, did you then

802
00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,639
see that and take and go well, we could add

803
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,440
that in or we could ask them, because I know

804
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:23,000
I've talked a lot. Are they paying for parking for everyone? No? No? No, no, okay,

805
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,880
all right, so yeah, go ahead.

806
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:29,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think I've taken this and pieces

807
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,119
from different sets I've been on. You know, I try

808
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:34,119
to take care of myself and be an adult and

809
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:37,000
bring my own stuff with me just because I think,

810
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,440
you know, you should do that. It's the same as

811
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,079
like if you have an anal scene, you make sure

812
00:42:41,079 --> 00:42:42,920
you get up in time to prep, Like you just

813
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,559
show up and be like, oh, whatever happens happens, you know,

814
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:48,960
So it's more like just being an adult. One of

815
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,639
my really good friends, ravel Rider, when I first met

816
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:56,000
her several years ago. She's one of the most professional

817
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:59,880
people in porn because I have done over probably fit

818
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,920
twenty scenes with her, and she is always on time

819
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,360
or she's early, and she you know, sometimes she'll have

820
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,760
a shoot late at night on an exotica night, and

821
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,960
then the next morning we have a scene and I'm like,

822
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880
can you anal prep? And She's like yes, and so

823
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,239
she'll get like three hours of sleep so she can

824
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,400
get up in time the anal prep. She's the only

825
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,159
performer I know who can do something like that and

826
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:24,159
then also still be on you know. And so she

827
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,280
told me this one quote and I'll remember it for

828
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,239
the rest of my career. She's like, this is a job, Like,

829
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,320
you know, it's like every other job. You can't show

830
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,480
up late, you can't be unprepared, or you'll get fired.

831
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,360
Like and that's how people should go about porn, is

832
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,280
that it's not just this fun willy nilly hobby that

833
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,760
we're doing. We are producing, we're doing this to make money.

834
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,400
It is our job, and you should be able to

835
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,880
be on time, organized in the right outfit and have

836
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,079
everything that you need and be prepared for a scene

837
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:54,960
if you're going to do one.

838
00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: So I think I think both sides need to understand

839
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:01,159
it's a job. The people in your comments being like,

840
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:04,039
why don't you ever post full scenes? I don't know, stupid,

841
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,159
because I have a website that you can go to.

842
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,760
But then the women as well, because I like, I

843
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,079
said I do a show. I think I said, did

844
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:13,599
I say it? Do I say? I do a show.

845
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,840
I have a side show where I interview newer girls

846
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,559
coming up, and I like to try and introduce them

847
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,000
to the industry, not me so much, but like show

848
00:44:21,039 --> 00:44:22,800
them to my audience and this and that, right, and

849
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,800
there are so and not so many the ones I've interviewed,

850
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,960
but maybe some of the ones that I've spoken to

851
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:32,440
and not there's so many just gorgeous girls, young rite

852
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,519
what the industry would want, right, And then you check

853
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:37,960
their only fans or whatever else, and they have six

854
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:42,159
pictures on there and no videos and it's like, sweetie,

855
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,480
no offense but you don't wake up on Monday, create

856
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:47,599
your only fans on Tuesday, and you're making one hundred

857
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,719
grand a month by Friday. Right, it's so much work.

858
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: There's so much that goes into Like, yeah, you can

859
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,559
have amazing content, but if you don't know how to

860
00:44:56,639 --> 00:44:58,199
market it, or you don't know how to get in

861
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:00,400
front of people or get people to buy it, like

862
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:04,800
you know, And I am an individual who doesn't always

863
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,360
play the game. I don't do the pandering. I don't

864
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,960
do all the extra stuff that some people do. And like,

865
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,679
however you make your money is great. I just don't

866
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,840
want to be a bimbo that rolls over and just

867
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,719
spends over backwards for people. I want people to see

868
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,159
me as an artist who creates amazing things and that's

869
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:24,840
why they like what they do. But chish your own,

870
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,360
like if you want to do the pandry and make

871
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480
your money, make your money just like you know, if

872
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,639
you can cry yourself to sleep with your backup full

873
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:34,119
of cash, like it's great, you know, do your things.

874
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,519
That's just personally, it's just not like I don't want

875
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:40,159
to be a dancing funky for people. I want them

876
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:42,119
to value me for what I do and how I

877
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,960
produce it, and I put that effort instead of putting

878
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,639
it into like the pandering, I put it into my content.

879
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's it's you know, it's it shows.

880
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:57,119
It shows not just that. But you said rebel Ryder

881
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:59,079
being your friend. I did an interview this year with

882
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,679
two other people who and I'll tell you who they

883
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,880
are at the end spoke, not the end of the episode,

884
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,000
when I'm done saying this, uh, spoke so highly of

885
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:12,480
you and just said they're learning from you. I interviewed

886
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:15,159
Jasmine Cruz and Jay r.

887
00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, my good buddies. Yeah.

888
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: I interviewed another couple and that guy's name was Clint,

889
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,760
So I wasn't sure if I mix the names up Jasmine,

890
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,960
Cruise and Jail They. I wish I could play it

891
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,079
back for you right now, but the episode's not at yet.

892
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:31,039
It's it's they were just like, I mean, this girl

893
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:35,480
knows everything. She's so professional. She's teaching us how to

894
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:37,519
be not that they're not, but just teaching us how

895
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:40,480
to be even more professional, teaching us this and that.

896
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Do you take that role as an accepted one of

897
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,079
being somewhat of a mentor to people? Do you like that.

898
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Do you ever let that get in the way of

899
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:52,440
you doing your own thing?

900
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: Not really, I do want to. Like the reason I'm

901
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,679
getting the how to book written is to show so

902
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,039
that you can be an independent You can do it

903
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,719
by yourself. You can build a brand from the ground

904
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,039
up in an industry that is so hard potentially to

905
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:12,039
break into because it's so oversaturated. And I want to

906
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,760
show like independence we matter. Like even with award shows

907
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,079
and all this stuff, A lot of the times independence

908
00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:20,039
we don't get put up for awards. We don't get

909
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,159
the time of day. I mean, I did a Coolet

910
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:24,679
scene last year. I redid the breakfast club. I did

911
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:28,519
a vintage classroom said with six women. We rewrote the script.

912
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,599
It was one of the coolest scenes I have ever done.

913
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:35,239
And I did get nominated for an AVM last year,

914
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,039
which was very like I was super honored. But you know,

915
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:40,599
I originally when people were like, oh, you're nominated, I

916
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:41,920
was like looking through and I was looking through it.

917
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,360
I was like, Oh, it's that scene, it's that scene.

918
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:45,440
And then it ended up not being that scene, and

919
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,360
I was a little like it was like bittersweet because

920
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,559
I was like I put so much into the scene.

921
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:53,119
It was so cool and different and so different than

922
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:55,760
any of the other companies I've been looking doing putting

923
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,360
out there that I was like, you know, I wish

924
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,320
that there was more independences, gotten more of the time

925
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,199
of day. So that's why I'm also showing with the

926
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,440
book like that you don't have to do the cookie

927
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,400
cutter model. You don't have to get an agent, you

928
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,559
don't have to get on mainstream sets, you don't have

929
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,079
to do all these things. You can be highly successful

930
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,320
if you're determined and you decide this is what I

931
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,880
want to do. Is it a lot of work? Other

932
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:21,639
days I want to pull my hair out and be

933
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,639
like I hate what I'm doing. Yes, but that's the

934
00:48:24,639 --> 00:48:28,039
only way like that you you make it Like I

935
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:30,280
think I just saw this thing where like I think

936
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,920
Dyson's vacuum like made like two hundred or eight hundred

937
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,679
different vacuum types before he actually made it successful one

938
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,400
and was almost like bankrupt, and now like it's like

939
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:43,760
worth the crab ton of money. So it's more just

940
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,599
like putting the effort and having the determination, having the

941
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:48,320
dream and just not giving up on it.

942
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,039
Speaker 1: So are you a perfectionist? Though, or are you okay

943
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:55,760
getting ninety nine point eight percent perfect? Or are you

944
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,880
going to stay up till three fifteen in the morning

945
00:48:58,079 --> 00:49:02,199
getting that one? God damn, because I'm that and it's

946
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,159
terrible for me.

947
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,599
Speaker 2: Are you a virgo?

948
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,679
Speaker 1: I am a sagittarius.

949
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,039
Speaker 2: I am a virgo, so I am naturally already a

950
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:13,559
perfection if it's also how I was raised. So yes,

951
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:16,559
I have had to let certain things go just because

952
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:19,559
I am a type a individual in an industry that

953
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:23,159
is very tighty, very like nonchalant. Is going to happen?

954
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:25,840
And what's going to happen? I'm very like, hey, so

955
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:28,559
we said ten o'clock, it's ten o'clock. Like I have

956
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:32,599
hired people before for scenes and they're forty five minutes late,

957
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,800
an hour late, and I'm like, I flew from Ohio

958
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,760
to be here in la I rented this set hourly,

959
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,239
So you just wasted like one hundred to one hundred

960
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,800
and fifty of my money not arriving on time. And

961
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,159
then you know, and then they arrive, and then you

962
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:49,880
know at that point you're kind of like a little

963
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:53,280
grumpy and you're like, you know, just value my time

964
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,280
as PERU. That would be me, like having them show

965
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,599
up and be like, oh, I'm not ready, Like you

966
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,159
know that, that wouldn't work. They probably never work with

967
00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:03,480
me again, or they would tell their agency she's terrible.

968
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:06,639
Don't let anyone, you know. And so I've had to

969
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,880
navigate that as a newer producer, Like how do you

970
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,079
navigate when you're hiring talent? What do you let go?

971
00:50:14,199 --> 00:50:17,320
What don't you let go? How do you protect your

972
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,840
interests without being a bitch or like people not wanting

973
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,559
to you know, you get like this negative connotation. They're

974
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:26,119
like she's a super bitch, like you know, like she

975
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:28,480
is going to make you do this, this, this, and this.

976
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,079
Like meeting in the military was just a matter of like,

977
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,519
you know, I don't want to micromanage you. I want

978
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:36,360
to give you the information you need and I want

979
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,159
you to be an adult and do what you're supposed

980
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:40,960
to do with it. And then I do expect a lot,

981
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:43,360
Like I give you a script. Normally my scripts are

982
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,199
six to ten pages long, and like, I expect you

983
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,440
to kind of know what we're going to be doing.

984
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,280
Am I going to feed you lines at any point?

985
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,679
Yes we can. And my editor is amazing and can

986
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:55,800
cut whatever but it's better if you kind of know

987
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,719
what we're going to be doing, which is why I

988
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,679
give you a script. Ugh uh so.

989
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: Let me You have worked on some of my favorite sites,

990
00:51:06,159 --> 00:51:09,480
and this isn't an insult to those sites. But I

991
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:14,480
say say, there's tiers, right. Your top tier are your brawsers,

992
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,800
your teams, all that stuff, right. Your bottom tier is

993
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,239
like a guy fucking his college girlfriend with like Metallica

994
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,159
playing in the background, and you're like, oh, that, I

995
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:26,719
don't think that's licensed. I don't. I don't think you

996
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,719
can use that. But the middle tier, and it's not

997
00:51:31,519 --> 00:51:35,079
about you know, it's more just how far the reach is.

998
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,000
I love that middle tier. I live in that middle tier.

999
00:51:41,039 --> 00:51:44,920
You shot for the two I believe Ossiani sites right

1000
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,280
ye aptly named Glory Whole Secrets and the pretty direct

1001
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:57,599
and straightforward Gang Bang cream Pie. Your stuff is and

1002
00:51:57,639 --> 00:51:59,960
this is not insult to them at all. It's more polished.

1003
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:05,199
It's more polished. Do you also like the more mid

1004
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,639
tier stuff, the stuff that's just kind of going at it?

1005
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:09,880
Does it feel raw to you at all? Or do

1006
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,880
is that not really your preference in what you're seeing?

1007
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: So for my own personal content, I like to having

1008
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,280
a little bit more polished. But I would love going

1009
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,239
on sets like that's me, just my personality. Like what

1010
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,519
you saw on those scenes, that's me on any given day.

1011
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:26,719
Like if someone was to come over and like weird,

1012
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,239
it's like padded out, I would act, you know, similar,

1013
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,360
I would. I would be a little bit more like

1014
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,440
I'm more open to the camera like angling and whatever

1015
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,599
when we're doing something like that. But like it's me

1016
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,280
my personality, like with the intensity and kind of like

1017
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:41,360
with Gangered and Creeper, I think I was like bent

1018
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,519
over backwards at one point and the guy's like like

1019
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,360
you know, fucking dick, like taking it down my throat

1020
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,800
all the way and like all that stuff Like that's

1021
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,800
where I live. That's my happy place, Like I'm happy there.

1022
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,360
So I love doing scenes like that. I'd liked. I

1023
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,360
liked shooting for facial abuse. I liked shooting for them.

1024
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:03,199
I I do not like puke content. That's not my thing.

1025
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,320
But the deep dirting, the intensity and all that I'm

1026
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,400
built for it. I like it. I enjoy it. I'm

1027
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,840
not so much into marking or spanking or getting like

1028
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:14,320
you know, bitten and like because I just proves easily

1029
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:20,079
like a banana. But they're the guys on set. They're nice.

1030
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:24,039
They it's all in act. They're acting. It's all acting.

1031
00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,159
White people think that they're terrible work like that. They're mean,

1032
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,760
and like as soon as the camera's going, yes, they're

1033
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,039
full on because we're acting. As soon as the camera's

1034
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:34,679
not rolling, they walk away, they hang out, we're just talking.

1035
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,840
It was like a really fun, enjoyable shoot. Both times

1036
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,320
I did it, Am I going to probably do it again? No,

1037
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:45,119
just because like you know, there's a connotation with that

1038
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,000
kind of studio, not that I wish that there wasn't.

1039
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:50,119
I wish you could shoot anything you wanted and it

1040
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:53,440
would be fine. But I'm trying to be a little

1041
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,320
bit more polished now and be seen as more than

1042
00:53:57,559 --> 00:54:01,719
just in a you know, raw aggressive former because at

1043
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,760
one point I would like the opportunity to get on

1044
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,800
like a Vixen set or like Shoot for Black or

1045
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,800
any of those companies, because I think that I have

1046
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,239
a lot of offer and I think I would do

1047
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,840
a good job. But you know, sometimes it's the same

1048
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,239
with like Rebel Rider. She does a lot of intense,

1049
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:18,920
very you know, hardcore stuff, and you get put in

1050
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,920
a box, like I was going to hire this one

1051
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,400
woman for one of the series I'm producing, it's a

1052
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,559
girl girl series. And around that time, my timeline was

1053
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:30,519
being filled with the stuff I had done in Prog,

1054
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:33,280
so the you know, the piss content, the del lanels

1055
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,039
and the fisting and all the craziness, and like, her

1056
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,400
agency calls me back and it's like, hey, so she

1057
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:41,599
has some hesitations of shooting with you because she's afraid

1058
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:44,760
it's going to be really aggressive and really intense. And

1059
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,239
I was like, yeah, she probably saw my timeline and

1060
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,119
saw like what I'd been doing in Prague, and I

1061
00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:51,480
was like, let me explain what she's going to be doing.

1062
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:55,039
It is a cute, fun, scripted girl rol content. I

1063
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,119
basically steal women from men and it's great, we have

1064
00:54:58,119 --> 00:54:59,519
a great time. A lot of it has to do

1065
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:02,159
with the store, relying in the hook of everything, the

1066
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:04,719
furthest we're gonna go as a strap on. But it's

1067
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,079
it's just about image and perception. So it's like she

1068
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,760
saw that on my timeline and automatically assumed that's what

1069
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,039
I would be having her do too, you know, And

1070
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:15,800
if I had been I would have been up from

1071
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,400
been like Hey, so we're gonna do some crazy stuff today.

1072
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:21,360
You know, I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna put colored

1073
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,000
animas in there, and we're gonna have a great time,

1074
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:26,440
you know whatever craziness you know. But I it's just

1075
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,199
crazy to me that you can be put in a

1076
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,039
box as like a performer just because you do this

1077
00:55:31,159 --> 00:55:34,400
one thing one time, And like, I would rather be

1078
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,159
known as a performer who can do it all. I

1079
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:38,320
can do the cute, see fun stuff, I could do

1080
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,199
the intense acting, and then I can do a hardcore,

1081
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,760
really crazy scene. And I don't know what production company

1082
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,320
wouldn't want to have someone in their pocket like that

1083
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,840
that can do everything, you know for sure.

1084
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: One last question here to wrap this up. Is there

1085
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,239
an exit plan at all? Or is this for life?

1086
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,519
Are you sixty five shooting guilf porn.

1087
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: I think if I was to continue this for life,

1088
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,079
I would become like sheerly just director producer at that point,

1089
00:56:08,199 --> 00:56:10,920
so I would take off the talent, or maybe I

1090
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,679
would just do narrative roles once I'm old, like too

1091
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,119
old to be. You know, there's never an age that

1092
00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:19,119
you're not too old to be, you know, seeing sexy,

1093
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:20,880
but there is an age at a certain point you're like,

1094
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,280
maybe I don't want to be in front of the

1095
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,840
camera anymore. I think that I if I was to

1096
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,119
continue doing this for the rest of my career, I

1097
00:56:27,159 --> 00:56:31,159
would go more into the director producer role and step

1098
00:56:31,199 --> 00:56:34,960
away from being talent. I would probably want to find

1099
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,159
sign a contract star who's someone who could fill my shoes,

1100
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,840
someone who would be basically me and a lot of

1101
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,239
my scenes just because I star in all of them.

1102
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,480
So for me, the life of me, I don't know

1103
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:49,239
who that would be that would be able to bring

1104
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,920
the energy and the creativeness and just kind of like

1105
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:54,800
me to life and all of my scenes. I'm sure

1106
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,719
someone like that exists and I could probably find them,

1107
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,360
but that would probably be if I do this on term,

1108
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,079
that sort of thing. But for me, it's more like

1109
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:07,719
I'm already planning my exit strategy. I'm planning for retirement.

1110
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,760
I'm you know, investing, you know, maxing my ira like,

1111
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,960
you know, doing all these things that I need to.

1112
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:16,599
So at a certain point when I'm forty forty five,

1113
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:18,440
then the money's right and I can just be like

1114
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,239
I'm done, and I can just walk away and I

1115
00:57:20,239 --> 00:57:22,440
can do you know, I paint in my free time.

1116
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,840
I don't have a lot of time to paint anymore.

1117
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,559
I have a lot of other hobbies I like to do.

1118
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,639
I would like to have a chance to kind of

1119
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,440
be like I want to travel, I want to paint,

1120
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,119
and then you know, the money's right and I don't

1121
00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:34,239
have to work anymore.

1122
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: So you know why you have the ability to do

1123
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,000
that and plan that, right?

1124
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,119
Speaker 2: Why?

1125
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,239
Speaker 1: Because this is a job. It is yep, And that's

1126
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,719
what happens at the end of a job.

1127
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:44,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

1128
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: Hopefully not for me. I'm going to die at a desk,

1129
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:47,920
but yeah.

1130
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing is, Like I make this

1131
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,800
point we talk about in my podcast Deep Thoughts that

1132
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,039
kind of like what would you like to have change

1133
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:56,880
in the adustory? And I have a little bit of

1134
00:57:58,119 --> 00:58:00,840
I wouldn't say like controversial take, but I think the

1135
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:03,719
age for porn should be changed from eighteen to twenty

1136
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,000
one years old. I think you at eighteen don't know

1137
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:09,840
who the hell you are or what you want to

1138
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,239
do or anything about you. Like, at least at twenty one,

1139
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,679
maybe you went to college, maybe you figured out like

1140
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880
maybe I want to be a school teacher, Maybe I

1141
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,880
want to do this. If you go into port at

1142
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,079
eighteen and then decide you want to go into education,

1143
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,559
that's not gonna like they could find out any point

1144
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:28,000
and fire you based on your past of what so,

1145
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:30,599
I think at eighteen you don't really even know what

1146
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:32,360
you want or what you want to do. You also

1147
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:36,800
don't really have the security in place to protect yourself,

1148
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,119
to be stand up for yourself, to be like, I'm

1149
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,039
no producer, don't do that, I don't like the way

1150
00:58:42,039 --> 00:58:45,320
you're talking to me, don't touch me when we're not filming,

1151
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,079
like all these things that I think at twenty one

1152
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,679
you kind of have more of like a dad set

1153
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:54,559
of who you are. And I think at twenty one

1154
00:58:54,679 --> 00:58:56,639
you still like young enough. You could play a young

1155
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,480
like eighteen nineteen year old. Not a big deal, but

1156
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:02,800
I mean, I think that's a newer take on it

1157
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,400
because because there's a lot of older producers and directors

1158
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,639
that it's always been done a certain way. It's always

1159
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:10,480
been eighteen nineteen year olds and that's what they want,

1160
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:10,880
you know.

1161
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: So great way to end it, ladies and gentlemen, We're

1162
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,239
gonna wrap this one up. My guest tonight, the host

1163
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,679
of the Deep Thoughts podcast Rey Ray. You can find

1164
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,480
links to all of our social media in the episode

1165
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,440
description as always, but please make sure you go out

1166
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,320
and check out her main sight, reraxxx dot com. Are

1167
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,679
we keeping that strictly porn or maybe we're gonna put

1168
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:36,599
some podcast videos on there too, or what are we doing?

1169
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,239
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna keep them separate. So The Deep

1170
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,320
Thoughts is gonna be its own, separate on social media.

1171
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,719
It's gonna be associated with me and Rabel Ryder because

1172
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she's also my co host on it, which is awesome

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great we kind of together bring that podcast to life

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as well as my other host is a non industry

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person who brings their perspective who's a comedian, so he

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brings the full and we have the full like range

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of everything that's going on. And so I'm going to

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keep that separate, but I'm gonna definitely promote it and

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it's going to have its own kind of platform everything

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for it. But it's gonna be from the minds of

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me and Rebel Writer and my other good friend Kevin

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so well.

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Speaker 1: Depending on when you're listening to this, folks, as I

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update the things when they change, check the episode description

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for links to all of the Deep Thoughts podcasts stuff. Okay, Rareck,

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thank you so much for coming on with me night.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, anytime. That was amazing. Yeah, like I said,

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I did my research. I like. I love listening to podcast,

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especially when I'm working out. I love it. I think

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what you're doing is great and you should keep doing

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it because it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, wonderful compliment. We'll see you next week, folks,