Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm busy Boston's news Radio.
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Speaker 2: have a couple of topics coming up later on tonight
Speaker 2: then I think we'll interest you. One is the arrival
Speaker 2: of congestion pricing. If you're heading to New York, it's
Speaker 2: going to cost in a car, it's going to cost
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Speaker 2: drive in the Big Apple, we'll talk about a new
Speaker 2: law in Florida which is intended to protect firefighters, police
Speaker 2: officers and first responders as they respond to people in
Speaker 2: need of assistance. And later on, but ask him your
Speaker 2: New Year's resolutions are they still intact? Well, it was
Speaker 2: good to see the stock market having a comeback today.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see the Red Sox and maybe the
Speaker 2: Bruins and certainly the Patriots have a comeback like the
Speaker 2: stock market had today. But it's always up and down
Speaker 2: at the stock market and in sports. And here with
Speaker 2: his twenty twenty five Boston sports predictions, Boston Globe sports
Speaker 2: reporter Chad Finn. Chad, I read your article and you're
Speaker 2: out in the limit a couple but it's an interesting piece.
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: I'm good, Dan, great talking to you. I fully expect
Speaker 3: my crystal ball to be as faulty as ever this
Speaker 3: twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, let's uh, there's one here that you know again.
Speaker 2: I like sports. Sports are not my daily work. I
Speaker 2: don't make my living covering Sports, But I'd like to
Speaker 2: see them give Jarrod Mayo a second opportunity here. I
Speaker 2: think he got delt to bad a bad hand. But
Speaker 2: you think he's done.
Speaker 3: I do, But I've been really wish you washing on that.
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago I wrote that he should keep his job,
Speaker 3: and then it went so badly against the Chargers last Saturday,
Speaker 3: including putting rookie quarterback Drake Mayo is really the one
Speaker 3: hopeful thing on their offense in a bad situation where
Speaker 3: he had taken a couple of hits to the head.
Speaker 3: They had him out there up down thirty points late
Speaker 3: in the game, and that kind of felt like a
Speaker 3: little bit of a tipping point with me to you know,
Speaker 3: to whether or not may ultimately Mayo ultimately keeps his job.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, that's so, this is not what you wish. These
Speaker 2: are your predictions, what you believe will happen. Just to
Speaker 2: make it very clear. Okay, Well, maybe you could be both,
Speaker 2: or maybe it could be both. I guess I hope
Speaker 2: they give him a second chance, that's all. He's a
Speaker 2: pretty nice guy, and I think you get dealta bad hand. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Celtics are going to repeat. I'm not so sure
Speaker 2: about that. They've looked a little shaky in December they did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're running into a tough part of the
Speaker 3: schedule right now with a bunch of West Coast games.
Speaker 3: Full disclosure, I wrote that section while they were beating
Speaker 3: the Toronto Raptors by fifty four points, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very might have been a little bit.
Speaker 2: What was the over on that? What was the over
Speaker 2: on the Toronto Raptors game? Thirty points four?
Speaker 3: I can tell you that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I know it was fifty four,
Speaker 2: And I thought it was interesting that I guess four
Speaker 2: of the six fifty plus wins have come under coach Missoula.
Speaker 2: Interestingly in the last yeah, a few years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the differences between this year and
Speaker 3: last year. Was last year they crushed some teams. I
Speaker 3: think they've set a league record for thirty point victories.
Speaker 3: I believe they were ten, and they've had a few
Speaker 3: this year. That Toronto game was won. But they haven't
Speaker 3: been quite the same team this year. They haven't had
Speaker 3: their best six players together for more than six games
Speaker 3: because christeps Porzingis has been hurt. But I have total
Speaker 3: faith in this team that once it comes to playoff
Speaker 3: time and the stakes are the highest that they'll play
Speaker 3: their best. They I think they're in that you know
Speaker 3: that trust last year with the way they handled themselves
Speaker 3: in the postseason, ultimately winning the championship.
Speaker 2: No. Absolutely, So you're predicting the Brewers won't make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They only have forty four points at the halfway mark,
Speaker 2: eighty eight. Probably won't do it, but I think their
Speaker 2: goaltending should get them there. Maybe they won't too well.
Speaker 2: But why do you think you're saying Pastor and Acts
Speaker 2: only gonna won't won't reach thirty goals. I've tried to
Speaker 2: look up how many he has right now. Was he
Speaker 2: got about fifteen?
Speaker 3: I think it was thirteen when I wrote that. I
Speaker 3: don't know I think what he's said since, but yeah,
Speaker 3: he said thirty at least thirty every year of his career,
Speaker 3: going back to believe twenty sixteen, other than the COVID
Speaker 3: year where everything was abbreviated, he hasn't quite been right.
Speaker 3: And I think part of the issue of this team
Speaker 3: is that they've got guys playing just sort of a
Speaker 3: level up from where they need what they really are.
Speaker 3: A guy who's a third liner is playing in the
Speaker 3: second line. Second liner is on the first line, and
Speaker 3: Jeremy Swaven the goalie, came into camp lay because of
Speaker 3: his contract situation, took him over the time to find
Speaker 3: his stride. And I think they get overtaken by the
Speaker 3: Lightning once the Lightning has played as many games as
Speaker 3: the Bruins and Bruns will be looking at a wild card.
Speaker 3: It's about fifty to fifty where they get one in probability.
Speaker 3: And I just don't think they're that good. I don't
Speaker 3: think this is a great team.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason I think they might make the playoffs
Speaker 2: is they had that Western Canadian trip out of the way,
Speaker 2: so they don't have to go back to Winnipeg. They
Speaker 2: don't go back to Calgary, even Vancouver. I think they
Speaker 2: caught Vancouver on an off night, so we'll say, okay,
Speaker 2: of course the Red Sox. We saved the best for last.
Speaker 2: I love the line about predict Craig Breslow will someday
Speaker 2: answer a question without the question of requiring tooth of
Speaker 2: services and a copy of the Baseball Analytics for Dummies
Speaker 2: to comprehend the answer. These yalely guys, these these these
Speaker 2: the Yale guys, they they have some big words, don't.
Speaker 3: They They do, and US sportswriter guys don't know a
Speaker 3: lot espersonally. Now, you'd never know talking to Kirk Breslo
Speaker 3: that he pitched more than ten ten seasons in the
Speaker 3: major leagues because he doesn't sound like a guy's ever
Speaker 3: been in a clubhouse. He's just incredibly smart, but and articulate,
Speaker 3: but in a jiargony kind of way that sometimes gets
Speaker 3: in the way of his the messages intending coming out
Speaker 3: the way that he wants. And if he could be
Speaker 3: a little more plain spoken, I think it would serve
Speaker 3: him well, and maybe maybe the fan base enough simple
Speaker 3: sports writers would would understand his thinking a little better.
Speaker 2: Two things I like. I like the signing of Bueller,
Speaker 2: the guy from the Dodgers. And I also think that
Speaker 2: Richard fitz showed me a lot in his four starts
Speaker 2: last September. I don't he did. I don't know if. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he could be a sleeper, as
Speaker 2: you know in the four or.
Speaker 3: Five Yeah, I mean, you can't make a better impression
Speaker 3: than he did down the stretch last year. And the
Speaker 3: one thing that we know is going to be better
Speaker 3: about this team as a starting pitching where there were
Speaker 3: so many questions going into last year, some guys emerged.
Speaker 3: Tanner hawku barely made the starting rotation out of spring training,
Speaker 3: ended up being the best starting pitch. Now they've got Bueler,
Speaker 3: They've got Garrett Crochet, who's just he's fantastic to watch.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Durability has been a question in his career and he
Speaker 3: doesn't have a long track record, but he's a spectacular
Speaker 3: pitcher and he's going to be their ace if if
Speaker 3: he's healthy. So there, they're in a better spot there
Speaker 3: with the rotation than they've been in quite a while,
Speaker 3: and that's to me, signifies progress. They still need some
Speaker 3: help on this team, but it's not been a lost
Speaker 3: off season like so many have in recent years.
Speaker 2: Well, you'd like to see them sign Bragman, and my
Speaker 2: question is what do you do with him? Put him
Speaker 2: at second base? What do you do with Grissom?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Grissom. I like him. I think they
Speaker 3: have questions about whether he's strong enough and whether he's
Speaker 3: going to be a durable player. But he's very young
Speaker 3: still and they give up Chris Sale to get him,
Speaker 3: so they thought highly of him. They've Christian Campbell, who's
Speaker 3: their number two prospect, a terrific young hitter, but I
Speaker 3: think gets there this year. That was one of my
Speaker 3: pretty he's a Rookie of the Year candidates. But I
Speaker 3: Bregman fits in a few ways. I think you can
Speaker 3: play them at third base and DH Devers more Devors.
Speaker 3: It's been a real detriment defensively at third base the
Speaker 3: last few years. Bregman's a leader out. Corr really likes
Speaker 3: him from their time together in Houston, and he's a
Speaker 3: good defensive player and no matter where you play him,
Speaker 3: and this team has been a bad defensive team for
Speaker 3: too long now. So he's a declining hitter in it
Speaker 3: in a way, but he's still a productive one and
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of other stuff going for him.
Speaker 2: Well, Chad Finn, You've got a lot of stuff going
Speaker 2: for you. We've covered the waterfront here and we'll have
Speaker 2: to do an update. Well we'll do We'll do a
Speaker 2: few updates during the year, but we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. And I love the piece and I love
Speaker 2: when to come on the show. You had a lot
Speaker 2: of fun to talk with and I love love talking sports.
Speaker 2: I know just enough about each of these professional sports
Speaker 2: teams to be able to have a conversation with guys
Speaker 2: like you, and I really enjoy talking to you. Chad.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on any time. Dan,
Speaker 3: so it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2: We'll talk soon, all right, Chad Finn the Boston Globe
Speaker 2: his twenty twenty five predictions. Great piece. I hope you
Speaker 2: get a chance to read it. We come back, we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about an event that is coming up tomorrow,
Speaker 2: which is a polar plunge, and it will be a
Speaker 2: polar if they break the ice. Now this one is
Speaker 2: rally for Nelly. We will explain. We're going to talk
Speaker 2: with Dan Nelly who lost his mom to als, and
Speaker 2: they're going to try to raise some money tomorrow. And
Speaker 2: if you'd like to be brave and say you took
Speaker 2: the polar punge, we'll get all the information for you
Speaker 2: coming up right after the break.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Dan Nallly. Dan lost his
Speaker 2: mom to als in twenty twenty two. Kathy Nally was
Speaker 2: diagnosed with this horrific condition. Back in October of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: Dan Nally joins us because we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: an event. It's tomorrow morning, so it's kind of a
Speaker 2: little short notice, but we noticed it. And Dan Nally,
Speaker 2: first of all, welcome to Night's side.
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much for having me on, Dan,
Speaker 5: I really appreciate it our pleasure.
Speaker 2: This is the fourth annual rally for Neale and it
Speaker 2: will be held on January fourth. Is January fourth? Was
Speaker 2: that your mom's birthday?
Speaker 5: It was? Yeah, so definitely a very special special day
Speaker 5: for us for multiple reasons, celebrating her birthday and just
Speaker 5: the legacy that she left for us in Balley.
Speaker 2: Thisvesnon. Try to make sure your mom's name was Kathy.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about your mom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mom's name was Kathy. She was the absolute best.
Speaker 5: Could not have asked for a better mother grown up
Speaker 5: And as you mentioned, she was diagnosed unexpectedly as it
Speaker 5: is for everyone with als, back in twenty twenty, and
Speaker 5: in the two years that she was baling that disease,
Speaker 5: she never complained. She just you know, kept her head
Speaker 5: up and said, what can I do to try to
Speaker 5: raise awareness to make sure that other people don't have
Speaker 5: to go through this themselves? And she was just always
Speaker 5: that positive, bright spirit and impact so many lives that
Speaker 5: she met, so many lives that she hasn't met, and
Speaker 5: just you know, we're trying to carry on that legacy
Speaker 5: of her.
Speaker 2: So the legacy continues tomorrow morning from well, the event
Speaker 2: is from ten to two. It starts at Carson Beach
Speaker 2: in South Boston, so everybody knows what Carson Carson Beach
Speaker 2: is and I guess the Plunges is at eleven o'clock,
Speaker 2: but the event begins at ten with registration and all
Speaker 2: of that. Tell us about what people need to do.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's a little late to have people try to
Speaker 2: check it out, but you got a website. Give us
Speaker 2: the website and tell us what folks can do to
Speaker 2: support the cause, whether they're going to be able to
Speaker 2: attend or not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, whether or not you're able to attend. We have
Speaker 5: a website with all the details. Give butter like a
Speaker 5: stick of butter, dot com, flash rally, the number four
Speaker 5: and nally which has all the details. But as you said,
Speaker 5: if you want an extra cold bath to start your
Speaker 5: day tomorrow, we'll be there bright and early ten ham
Speaker 5: registration at Carson Beach. We'll be running into the water
Speaker 5: at eleven am. We'll be running out even faster at
Speaker 5: probably eleven you know one, and then we have reception
Speaker 5: over at Amoris in South Boston.
Speaker 2: After that, everybody be able to warm up at a reception,
Speaker 2: that that is for sure. So this is the fourth year.
Speaker 2: Has it always been held at Carson Carson Beach?
Speaker 5: It has been. Yeah. We grew up just outside of Boston.
Speaker 5: My sister and I lived in South Boston for a
Speaker 5: while and so had gone down to that beach for
Speaker 5: you know, many years, and it just seemed like the
Speaker 5: perfect spot to hold this, you know, with the whole
Speaker 5: Boston style in the background there. Get to say, that's
Speaker 5: always meant a lot to us, and yeah, I couldn't
Speaker 5: think of a better place to hold it.
Speaker 2: So how is it easily accessible? I've gone to some
Speaker 2: of these events when I was younger, and you know,
Speaker 2: whether they're road races or again polar plunges, which are great.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that people need to know who want
Speaker 2: to get there, because if they've never been to Carson Beach,
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's pretty easily accessible off of the
Speaker 2: Expressway and also off of Morrissey Boulevard, but parking pretty easy.
Speaker 2: I know there's parking along the beach front there. Give
Speaker 2: us a sense of what people might run into tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Just just paint the picture for Since this is the
Speaker 2: fourth I'm assuming that accessibility is pretty good.
Speaker 5: Accessibility is usually very very good. As you said, it's
Speaker 5: just off the highway, you've got parking right there. The
Speaker 5: one year where accessibility was a bit of the problem
Speaker 5: was actually our first year, when it snowed about a
Speaker 5: foot the day before, and so we had the shovels
Speaker 5: out right and early that morning getting everything prepared. Still
Speaker 5: went off without a hitch. The feat were a bit
Speaker 5: colder going into the water that was catched there, but
Speaker 5: no knock on woods. Should be very easy to find
Speaker 5: parking and make it down to the beach tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And the funds that are raised people can donate. Is
Speaker 2: is there a minimum that people are encouraged to contribute
Speaker 2: a lot of the road races now, particularly a marathon,
Speaker 2: if you're lucky enough to get a number for the
Speaker 2: marathon and you want join one of the charitable teams
Speaker 2: there there's an obligation in some reason, you know, because
Speaker 2: those those are valuable numbers. And marathons, what are people
Speaker 2: expected to raise or is there an expectation does it matter?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that you're looking to raise forty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars this year and you're well on your way
Speaker 2: to that figure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no minimum at all. I mean, whatever anyone can contribute,
Speaker 5: we always appreciate it. And unlike the marathon, is a
Speaker 5: much shorter run down to the water and back, so
Speaker 5: hopefully makes a little bit easier on people.
Speaker 2: There's no heartbreak hill or anything like that. That's fine,
Speaker 2: no heartbreak kill.
Speaker 5: I gotta say, come back up from the water. It
Speaker 5: feels like heartbreak hill. Yeah, it's not much of an incline,
Speaker 5: but it certainly feels like it.
Speaker 2: Okay. And then at the am Rine's event afterwards, which
Speaker 2: is also a big, a big part of the day,
Speaker 2: there's lunch, there's cocktails. I think you got an auction
Speaker 2: over there as well. So you're really hoping to have
Speaker 2: a really full day celebrating in mom's life and also
Speaker 2: contributing to the fight against als.
Speaker 5: Right exactly, silent auction, raffle and just people all getting together.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest thing. Again, this is
Speaker 5: an event to certainly raise funds for ALF at the
Speaker 5: same time, It is a celebration of our mom and
Speaker 5: just one incredible person she was, and even more so
Speaker 5: tomorrow on her birthday. So we'll have a ki out there,
Speaker 5: we'll have a card. It's going to be a great day,
Speaker 5: and we're hoping to raise a ton of money in
Speaker 5: the process.
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask a tear jerker question, Now, what
Speaker 2: how old wuld have your mom been? How old would
Speaker 2: your mom be tomorrow.
Speaker 5: If you'd be Yeah, this would have been her sixty
Speaker 5: fifth birthday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an awful young age to lose your mom.
Speaker 2: Sixty five is not like what it used to be
Speaker 2: many years ago. And she certainly raised a great sun.
Speaker 2: That's what Sue. By the way, the contributions that you
Speaker 2: raise are going to go to support a couple of
Speaker 2: other great organizations. Tell tell us about that, because I
Speaker 2: want people to understand that this money is going to
Speaker 2: help some great a great cause.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, thank thanks for asking that. All the funds that
Speaker 5: we raise are going to be split between two incredible
Speaker 5: charities that both focus on als. The first is the
Speaker 5: Peter Frady's Family Foundation, which just had their own plunge
Speaker 5: last week and and raised a ton of money there
Speaker 5: and they were so supportive of my mom right out
Speaker 5: of the gates, providing her funds to make sure that
Speaker 5: she could stay in the Boston area she fought this disease.
Speaker 5: And then Compassionate Care Als based out of Falmouth, another
Speaker 5: terrific organization that really is is nationwide in terms of
Speaker 5: providing resources to people battling als and sam as the
Speaker 5: phrase Family Foundation. They were there from the start to
Speaker 5: support my mom and and made those last two years,
Speaker 5: as you know, as fruitful as possible for all of us.
Speaker 5: And you know, we're just hoping that other people can
Speaker 5: continue to benefit from those two incredible charities.
Speaker 2: By the way, you folks have raised an incredible amount
Speaker 2: of money in the you know, in the last three years.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to embarrass you, but you guys have
Speaker 2: raised three hundred and forty thousand dollars. So that is
Speaker 2: a very serious fundraiser and one that that you have
Speaker 2: uplish amazing things so far. The other thing we say,
Speaker 2: I got to ask you about if you go to
Speaker 2: the website which is give butter dot com slash rally,
Speaker 2: the number four nolly n a l y, very very
Speaker 2: rhythmic there. Everybody, a lot of folks are wearing some
Speaker 2: pretty fun uniforms or costumes. I guess would be the
Speaker 2: weather with the way to describe it, what's the background
Speaker 2: doing the costumes? Tell us about that.
Speaker 5: Well, the first year, my mom had just this incredible
Speaker 5: curly blonde hair, and so we thought it was a
Speaker 5: nice little tribute to that as a surprise for her,
Speaker 5: we'd all show up with these curly blonde wigs on.
Speaker 5: And so you're a bunch of yeah, a bunch of
Speaker 5: frosty frows going into the wire that first year, and
Speaker 5: then it kind of spirals from that where people are like, Okay,
Speaker 5: you know, instead of Foster fro whatef, I did this
Speaker 5: costumer that costume, And we've seen more creativity year for year.
Speaker 5: There's a competition for the Golden Plunger Award very co toward.
Speaker 5: It's not quite the Stanley Cup, but it's maybe just
Speaker 5: a notch below it that goes up to the best
Speaker 5: Best Dress Costume. So we'll be awarding that again tomorrow.
Speaker 2: That's great, Dannally, thanks so much again. Let's give that
Speaker 2: website one more time. You go right ahead on behalf
Speaker 2: of you mo. What's the website that people can go
Speaker 2: to and contribute or go to and get information and
Speaker 2: physically be in Carson Beach tomorrow morning between ten and twelve.
Speaker 2: What's the website.
Speaker 5: The website again is www dot give butter dot com,
Speaker 5: slash rally the number four and Nally and A L
Speaker 5: L Y. Thank you again so much. Dan. I can't
Speaker 5: begin to say how much we appreciate.
Speaker 2: This my pleasure. I can't begin to tell you how
Speaker 2: much I appreciate you carrying on your legacy and raising
Speaker 2: funds to find somehow a way to beat back this disease.
Speaker 2: It is the cruelest disease that I can imagine amongst
Speaker 2: a lot of cruel diseases. So again, congratulations, and I
Speaker 2: hope that some of our listeners will we'll go and
Speaker 2: make a donation. Thanks so much, Dan, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 2: Here your mom, I'm just looking down and smiling, particularly tomorrow. Okay,
Speaker 2: thanks again, Thank you. You're welcome. All right, here comes
Speaker 2: the news at the bottom of the hour, And when
Speaker 2: we get back on the other side, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk to a gentleman about failing your way to success.
Speaker 2: May sound a little oxymoronic, but it's not failing your
Speaker 2: way to success with Jim Sweeney coming up right after
Speaker 2: the news right here on wbz's Night Side. This is
Speaker 2: Boston WBZ, Boston's news Radio. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 1: It's nights Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Jim Sweeney. Jim is an
Speaker 2: entrepreneur who is founded, amongst of the things, fourteen healthcare companies,
Speaker 2: including care Mark. But he has a book out, Creative
Speaker 2: Insecurity is but it's uh. It's called Leaning to the
Speaker 2: Unknown and Unleash your Inner misfit Secrets to Failing your
Speaker 2: way to Success Jim, as I said that in the
Speaker 2: preview before the newscast, almost sounds a little oxymoronic, failing
Speaker 2: your way to success, as some people say that military
Speaker 2: intelligence and all of that. But it's entitled Creative Insecurity.
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about yourself as an entrepreneur,
Speaker 2: and tell us what lessons you learned along what I
Speaker 2: guess was occasionally a bumpy road.
Speaker 6: Well, thank you for having me on. I'm happy to
Speaker 6: ad just that issue and others as well. So I
Speaker 6: think that you know, most people think about failure as
Speaker 6: being in one extreme and success of being the other extreme.
Speaker 6: And we want to fail to succeed rather, and my
Speaker 6: view is that they're intertwined inexcurricably. You can kind of
Speaker 6: blink your fingers together in your hand, and you continue
Speaker 6: to fail as you become successful. Your listeners are probably
Speaker 6: familiar with the product WD forty. What's happened to be
Speaker 6: the San Diego Company and I'm from San Diego. They
Speaker 6: got the name w D forty. They're now in one
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty seven countries with four hundred and ten
Speaker 6: million dollars in revenue because they tried forty times to
Speaker 6: get the formula right. That's how they get about the
Speaker 6: name w D forty. They failed thirty nine times.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, WD four mirror success, Jim. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you many one who has ever used WD forty.
Speaker 2: It will do everything. I mean, I think the only
Speaker 2: thing that doesn't do is make people's hair grow. It's
Speaker 2: if you got a problem at home, spray a little
Speaker 2: w D forty on it. Most of the time it
Speaker 2: fixes it. So that's that is a great example. You know,
Speaker 2: Jim's funny when you talk about, for example, I don't
Speaker 2: if you're a baseball fan or not, you from San Diego,
Speaker 2: is that what you're telling me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: You got pretty good basebe about day the padres and
Speaker 2: they've failed a lot. But you know, if you're a
Speaker 2: major League baseball player and you get to bat three
Speaker 2: times and you strike out the first two times and
Speaker 2: you get a single the third time, and you're hitting
Speaker 2: three thirty three, if you keep that up for your career,
Speaker 2: three thirty three put you in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: So you have to periodically fail. Tell us about a
Speaker 2: couple of your failures, maybe your most spectacular failure, and
Speaker 2: then we can talk about some of your successes in
Speaker 2: the book.
Speaker 6: Well, my most objecular failure was the care Mark, which
Speaker 6: I started and it went extremely well, and I took
Speaker 6: a public and it went extremely well. The start split
Speaker 6: a couple of times, and it was trading at about
Speaker 6: thirty thirty sellers to share. Metcair called me and said,
Speaker 6: you know you're doing home Parentual Electrician, which were reimbursing.
Speaker 6: Then you're also doing info electric and we decided that
Speaker 6: that's like feeding people, so we're going to stop. We're
Speaker 6: not going to pay for that. So and one day
Speaker 6: my stock went from thirty to three as a result,
Speaker 6: of that, and I had I realized that I'm not
Speaker 6: a I'm not a hero on Wall Street. I'm also
Speaker 6: not a bum. And so when I when the stock
Speaker 6: went down to three, I had to work for eight
Speaker 6: quarters to get it up to forty five dollars this year.
Speaker 6: So that's the example of you know, failing your way
Speaker 6: to success.
Speaker 2: Well once again. You know when when someone knocks on
Speaker 2: your door and says, the worst thing to hear is
Speaker 2: I'm from the governments, that I'm here to help you.
Speaker 2: And there was an example of what the government came
Speaker 2: in and they were not there to help you. That
Speaker 2: that is for sure.
Speaker 6: Well, I could spend an hour talking about healthcare, because
Speaker 6: help share is the five trillion dollars to your business decimated.
Speaker 6: We had, we lose about we had, we waited about
Speaker 6: a trillion, but that five trillion dollar business ranks the
Speaker 6: last in terms of developed companies and countries in terms
Speaker 6: of outcomes. So I could go on for hours about
Speaker 6: healthcare and what's along with that, more importantly, how to
Speaker 6: fix it.
Speaker 2: Well, if you come up and fix it, you know,
Speaker 2: one of the things that we're having problems with here
Speaker 2: in the Boston area or in New England is just
Speaker 2: to find a personal care physician is very, very difficult.
Speaker 2: There's a shortage of personal care physicians.
Speaker 6: And well, one of the things the other problem there.
Speaker 6: The other problem with that is that they're now promoting
Speaker 6: your practitioners and position assistance to where they're now writing
Speaker 6: prescriptions without any oversight from positions. There's a consequence. The
Speaker 6: rate at which people are dying from medication erors is
Speaker 6: beyond anything you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a great point, the most you'll ever go.
Speaker 2: The thing that I'm also concerned about, and I've I've
Speaker 2: done this story a couple of times, is that we
Speaker 2: have law schools. I'm a lawyer as well as a broadcaster,
Speaker 2: and it's easy to go to law school there's law
Speaker 2: schools everywhere. It's very difficult to get into medical schools.
Speaker 2: And there are a lot of young Americans who are
Speaker 2: eminently qualified to become doctors, you know, you know, personal
Speaker 2: care physicians who have to go offshore to a lot
Speaker 2: of these medical schools in the Caribbean. And I just
Speaker 2: don't understand why we can't open more doors. But that's
Speaker 2: a story for another time. Let's talk about your book, Okay,
Speaker 2: how long has it been out? Tell me about the
Speaker 2: book and how's it doing.
Speaker 6: The book came out on December tenth, so it's just
Speaker 6: been out a very short period of time. The most
Speaker 6: important thing about the book. I didn't do the book
Speaker 6: to make a nickel. I did the book because I
Speaker 6: want to help influence people and what they can do
Speaker 6: to get out of their own way to be successful.
Speaker 6: That's the underpinning of the book. And I've been blessed
Speaker 6: with the fact that I've already had dozens of people
Speaker 6: who say my life has changed as the guilt of
Speaker 6: this book. And so to me, if I could affect
Speaker 6: one person's life, I would say the book was successful,
Speaker 6: and what we will see how successful it becomes. But
Speaker 6: most importantly, how many people can make a difference in
Speaker 6: their life because of something to think the book. That's
Speaker 6: my main objective. I say in the book that being
Speaker 6: first is more important than being right. The reality is
Speaker 6: you can only be first once, then you could be
Speaker 6: right later, and you're never right when you start. You're
Speaker 6: going to constantly pivot to get it to where it's right.
Speaker 6: I have something called the innovator's trifecta, which is a
Speaker 6: triangle at the base of that triangle is humility. On
Speaker 6: one other side of the triangle is vision, and on
Speaker 6: the other is what I learned from the Navy fields,
Speaker 6: which is the no quickening, which is you'll die before
Speaker 6: you quit. If you're able to take that innovator's perfecta
Speaker 6: and apply it to a you're doing, I believe that
Speaker 6: will greatly improve your ability be successful, while at the
Speaker 6: same time asking yourself continuing the question of one am
Speaker 6: I missing? One of I missing, and U versus a
Speaker 6: great undoer. The whole bedrock of all of this is humility,
Speaker 6: not hu verus. And to hire people who are better
Speaker 6: than you are, who wants your job. I do what
Speaker 6: I call it pre mortemis. I think I am doned
Speaker 6: that tournal. Maybe I didn't. But a pre mortem is
Speaker 6: you interview so many you want to hire. At the
Speaker 6: end of the interview, you predict why they will fail.
Speaker 6: That's a pre mortem. And you don't do that because say, oh,
Speaker 6: I told you so, that's why you failed, and so
Speaker 6: you can make sure that you help them avoid that
Speaker 6: from being a failure, at the same time having them
Speaker 6: write their own job description, so you break the job
Speaker 6: around the person instead of mold it instead of trying
Speaker 6: to mold a person to the job. My job is,
Speaker 6: I have a one line job description. My job is
Speaker 6: the CEO of a company is to make sure if
Speaker 6: you're more excited on Monday morning than you are on
Speaker 6: Friday night, and that means you have the passion and
Speaker 6: the excitement and you want to change the world and
Speaker 6: make it a better place.
Speaker 2: All great, great points. Look, you also have I noticed
Speaker 2: on your website you have something called the Contrarians Checklist,
Speaker 2: and you offer this to people. They can get this
Speaker 2: framework to evaluate your big ideas. So if they go
Speaker 2: to your website, they can find the book. The website
Speaker 2: is the name of the book, Creative Insecurity dot com.
Speaker 2: That's a great easy website to remember. They can order
Speaker 2: a copy. I assume it's available Amazon and all the
Speaker 2: regular places. But again they should go down to the
Speaker 2: bottom and says get this framework to evaluate your big ideas,
Speaker 2: the Contrarians Checklist. I'm a bit of a contrarian myself,
Speaker 2: by the way, So I'm going to try to get
Speaker 2: the Contrarians Checklist and you send that out to people
Speaker 2: for free. They just have to give you an email
Speaker 2: address and their first name, and you'll send this to
Speaker 2: them for free, as I understand it. Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 6: Yes, The Innovative checklist is a guideline that I believe
Speaker 6: will help you and others examine what their idea and
Speaker 6: go through the checklist, and it will help you address
Speaker 6: all of the issues that I believe you need to
Speaker 6: take your business to make it a success. I don't
Speaker 6: mean to be statypical when I tell you this, Robert.
Speaker 6: Of the fifteen companies that I've started, I haven't had
Speaker 6: one fail. I've never had a down rounds in financing
Speaker 6: because I under promise and over deliver. And these are
Speaker 6: all things that are a part of the Contrarians checklist
Speaker 6: that I believe can help people like you and me
Speaker 6: who are contrarians who want to be old a company
Speaker 6: and want to build a business, can go for that
Speaker 6: checklist and greatly improve their odds of success.
Speaker 2: Well, that's great, really nice to talk with you. Know.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I like to stay I
Speaker 2: like to avoid people. I know, if you've heard the
Speaker 2: phrase often mistaken, never in doubt. I like to be
Speaker 2: the opposite of that. I doubt, yeah, right, but I
Speaker 2: like to be the opposite of that. And if you
Speaker 2: say to me, is the sun going to rise tomorrow
Speaker 2: in the east. I will tell you the sun is
Speaker 2: highly likely to rive, but he can never be one
Speaker 2: hundred percent sure about anything because it might just not
Speaker 2: rise in the east tomorrow morning, although it has a
Speaker 2: very good track record. So again I think a little
Speaker 2: insecurity in the way you think and the way you
Speaker 2: approach ideas is valuable, even on something as certain as
Speaker 2: the sun rising in the east. Jim Sweeney, I really
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Anybuddy of mine who used to play for
Speaker 2: the Padres who was a Sweeney, Mark Sweeney, great baseball
Speaker 2: player for many years with the San Diego Padres. So
Speaker 2: you've got a great last name, that's for sure. Thanks Jim.
Speaker 2: Great to talk with you. Good night, good night time.
Speaker 6: And I really appreciate enjoyed talking with you as well.
Speaker 5: Rob.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Thanks very much. Dan. Rob's my producer. But that's
Speaker 2: okay again, we all make mistakes, Thanks Jim. We come back.
Speaker 2: But to talk with a woman who has a really
Speaker 2: tough cautionary tale, Patricia Bonus. She has written a book
Speaker 2: called Jetta Bride. Way do you hear this story coming up? Particularly? Well,
Speaker 2: it's a frightening story. I will explain it right after
Speaker 2: the break here on night Side.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. The next guest that we're going
Speaker 2: to talk to tells a story. He has written a book.
Speaker 2: Her name is Patricia Bonus. I hope I'm pronouncing it correctly.
Speaker 2: Is a bonus of Bonnis, Patricia, it's Bonus Bonus. Okay, Well, welcome,
Speaker 2: welcome to Night's Side. You're a wealthy college graduate and
Speaker 2: spent obviously a lot of time in Boston, and you
Speaker 2: fell in love with a gentleman from a far away country,
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, and you have a tale to tell in
Speaker 2: this book, which is an incredible story, and it's also
Speaker 2: an incredible cautionary tale. It's gonna we cannot cover it
Speaker 2: in the few minutes that we have, but if you can't,
Speaker 2: just outline for us. This is a wild tale of
Speaker 2: a world win romance with the son of a wealthy
Speaker 2: Saudi family and how you were separated from your children
Speaker 2: for over fourteen years after he kidnapped your children. It's frightening.
Speaker 2: It's frightening what you went through. So just tell us,
Speaker 2: give us a little sense of the story, if you'd
Speaker 2: be so kind.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, Dan, thank you for giving me this
Speaker 4: opportunity to speak about Jeddah Bride my book. Yes, I
Speaker 4: was at Wellesley and he was at Boston University School
Speaker 4: of Management, and we met. And at the time, in
Speaker 4: the late seventies early eighties, there was a huge I
Speaker 4: don't know if there still is now, but there was
Speaker 4: a huge international crowd of students from every country. Boston
Speaker 4: and it probably still is now was a magnet for
Speaker 4: all of these international students, and so we really, you know,
Speaker 4: it was great fun and everything was so exciting, and
Speaker 4: I fell in love and he wanted to marry me,
Speaker 4: and I did, and so I went to Saudi Arabia
Speaker 4: in like nineteen eighty as his wife. And it was
Speaker 4: quite horrifying to you know. It was nothing I really expected,
Speaker 4: no matter how much you would describe it. It was
Speaker 4: like stepping into the Bible, like two thousand years ago,
Speaker 4: and it was extraordinary. Things happened to me when I
Speaker 4: was there that were terrifying. I witnessed things with my
Speaker 4: own eyes that were terrifying. I heard stories that were
Speaker 4: even more terrifying from other ladies that lived there and
Speaker 4: other people they.
Speaker 2: Well, there were I don't know if there's still going on,
Speaker 2: but there were public executions at that time.
Speaker 4: And I witness won myself when I was just walking
Speaker 4: from my car to a store and I turned around.
Speaker 4: I heard all these people screaming, and I looked and
Speaker 4: there was a lady getting stoned, and they actually killed
Speaker 4: her in front of me.
Speaker 2: Right. And when they say stoned in Saudi Arabia, they're
Speaker 2: not talking about marijuana. They're talking about stony. Literally, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm serious. Look, I want you to know, Patricia, I
Speaker 2: might have crossed paths with you. I'm probably from that
Speaker 2: I'm from that same generation. I was at Boston University
Speaker 2: law school back in the nineteen seventies and.
Speaker 4: They probably there at the same time.
Speaker 2: And there were many of the clubs that you probably frequented,
Speaker 2: were clubs that you go to Jason's on Clarendon Street
Speaker 2: back in the day. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know so,
Speaker 2: I mean those were all the hotspots around Boston. So
Speaker 2: this guy, he went so far not only to try
Speaker 2: to control you in a different culture, but then you
Speaker 2: were able to get your two children out of there,
Speaker 2: but he kidnapped them here in America and our law
Speaker 2: enforcement and our state department, they really weren't able to
Speaker 2: help you.
Speaker 4: No, they weren't. And you know it's still that way.
Speaker 4: People don't realize that I'm involved with an organization called
Speaker 4: Find my Parent and this is going on all the time.
Speaker 4: There is a Hague Convention that many countries find and
Speaker 4: it controls international child abduction and custody issues. Saudi Arabia
Speaker 4: has not sign that still not and you really have
Speaker 4: no I mean, you can't fight it. You cannot fight it.
Speaker 4: When you're in that country, they'll just throw you in
Speaker 4: jail and kill you. I mean, it just happens like that.
Speaker 4: You'll disappear and nobody'll be able to find you and
Speaker 4: that'll be the end of you. So I wasn't about to.
Speaker 4: I will never step one in that country again.
Speaker 2: And how long how long were you were you married
Speaker 2: to this guy?
Speaker 4: Well, let's see, like probably nine years, nine years? And
Speaker 4: I did I waited to have children. You know, we
Speaker 4: kept having these issues and I kept thing, should I shouldn't,
Speaker 4: should I shouldn't? And then I did and then I
Speaker 4: had two children and that was really you know, had
Speaker 4: I not had the children, had they not been kidnapped.
Speaker 4: I could have told this story a long time ago,
Speaker 4: my hair raising marriage to a Saudie, But once my
Speaker 4: children were kidnapped, there was no way I was going
Speaker 4: to make waves and make it worse.
Speaker 2: You've been able to re establish I guess through a
Speaker 2: stroke of luck. You found out you were living in
Speaker 2: New Jersey. But you found out that your son was
Speaker 2: going to prep school here in New England.
Speaker 4: And yes, can you imagine? Yes, no, my son, Kareem
Speaker 4: was in Culver Military Academy. It's a boarding school in Indiana.
Speaker 4: I think Indiana, I don't think. I think that was
Speaker 4: probably chosen because it was so kind of off the grid.
Speaker 4: But I do know a lot of people whose kids
Speaker 4: went there. But I didn't know this, and I until
Speaker 4: someone called me mysteriously in my office and told me,
Speaker 4: your son is in the United States playing polo at
Speaker 4: boarding school. And I looked up all the boarding schools
Speaker 4: that had polo, and then I found a listen. Then
Speaker 4: I gave it to a private investigator and they found
Speaker 4: him and he was a graduating senior at that time.
Speaker 4: And I could have driven, I could have jumped in
Speaker 4: my car and run to Indiana that day, but I thought,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, waitmen, this is a military school. Who
Speaker 4: knows what's happening, who knows if he'll even't accept to
Speaker 4: see me? I thought, okay, let me wait. They found
Speaker 4: he was going to go to Boston in the fall.
Speaker 4: He was living in Fenway Park. He rented an apartment,
Speaker 4: and I thought, that's a much better way to approach him.
Speaker 2: Not in Fenway Park, but living and living in living
Speaker 2: in what we call the Fenway area.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well Peterborough, Peterborough.
Speaker 2: Peterborough Street. Sure, that's that's very close to the ballpark.
Speaker 2: So you went unannounced, knocked on the door, and he asked,
Speaker 2: who are you?
Speaker 6: Who told you?
Speaker 4: That's right? He was so shocked, he was really shocked.
Speaker 2: You have a good relationship with him. Is he still
Speaker 2: in the States or has he gone back?
Speaker 4: No, he's gone back. He runs his family company. And
Speaker 4: I can't say that I blame him. He's doing very
Speaker 4: well and he's, you know, he's happy with his life.
Speaker 4: My daughter, the younger one of the two, she lived
Speaker 4: in the United States. Now, she actually came here and
Speaker 4: she went to Wellesley of her own volition because her
Speaker 4: mom had gone.
Speaker 3: There, I guess.
Speaker 4: And they accepted her. Actually, when she was sending in
Speaker 4: her application, she told me, and I wrote a letter
Speaker 4: to Wellesley and I don't know if it affected her admissions,
Speaker 4: but I begged them. I said, this is my daughter.
Speaker 4: I was a student at Wellesley and she's kidnapped. I
Speaker 4: haven't seen her since she was two years old. I
Speaker 4: hope you accept her. And they did accept her, and
Speaker 4: she did graduate from Wellesley and I saw her at
Speaker 4: least once a month for the whole entire time that
Speaker 4: she was a student there. So that was aing.
Speaker 2: And she's resettled or settled in the US and not
Speaker 2: likely to go back to Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 4: I hope not likely. No, she's very happy here. Yes,
Speaker 4: So it's a happy ending. Only the middle part is sad.
Speaker 4: The first part was exciting, shocking, daring. The second part
Speaker 4: was tragic. For fourteen years I was I didn't even know.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even think.
Speaker 2: I was what year did you reunite with you? So
Speaker 2: if I could ask, I'm just trying to put it on.
Speaker 4: It was the year after nine to eleven, so what
Speaker 4: would that be.
Speaker 2: Two thousand, two thousand and.
Speaker 4: Two to two thousand and one. It was September nine,
Speaker 4: to eleven have happened a year ago, right now? Whatever
Speaker 4: nine eleven was, yeah, and nine eleven nine.
Speaker 2: Eleven two, Well, nine to eleven was nine eleven two
Speaker 2: thousand and one because it was the first year in
Speaker 2: the Bush administration, so you would have united in September
Speaker 2: of two thousand and two. But you're still in contact.
Speaker 2: Are you still in contact with good?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: What What is what is the caution? What is the
Speaker 2: cautionary the caution that you would give to other young
Speaker 2: American women who are thinking about doing what you did,
Speaker 2: falling in love with someone from a country that whose
Speaker 2: culture is so significantly different than ours?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What would be your your message?
Speaker 4: My message is my method is probably don't do it.
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to be that harsh. It's a
Speaker 4: very difficult thing to do. It's very difficult in so
Speaker 4: many ways. You have to give up so much of
Speaker 4: what your expectations are and what you might have dreamt
Speaker 4: for yourself. It's difficult with raising children, there's so many
Speaker 4: different approaches to it. Their way, our way, and especially
Speaker 4: with the girls in some of these repressive countries.
Speaker 5: I would have had to fight.
Speaker 4: I mean, even if I had raised them. It never ends.
Speaker 4: They don't want they don't want them to. You know,
Speaker 4: a Muslim girl cannot marry anything but a Muslim man.
Speaker 4: She could never be If my daughter married a Christian
Speaker 4: man right now, she could never go back to Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 4: They could cut her head off if she wants to.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand. I see so many young
Speaker 2: so called progressives in the streets demonstrating against Israel, and
Speaker 2: uh uh And I'm a huge supporter of Israel, the
Speaker 2: one beacon of hope in the Middle East that is
Speaker 2: actually in the twenty first century. So I hope people
Speaker 2: buy your book and read your book and learn whatever
Speaker 2: lessons Jetta Bride j E. D. D A. H. Bride.
Speaker 2: It's available everywhere. Patricia. So nice to talk with you.
Speaker 2: You sound like an awfully wonderful woman. Uh And I
Speaker 2: wish you all the best of success in life and
Speaker 2: with this book. And I maybe somebody that can be
Speaker 2: back and we could we could take some phone calls
Speaker 2: from my listeners. We do our second one. Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: have my producer get back in touch with you. Okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love I love talking to people answering questions. It
Speaker 4: really It really clears a lot of things. People have
Speaker 4: a lot of those great options.
Speaker 2: Patricia Author My Pleasure, author of Jedabride. Congratulations and having
Speaker 2: the courage in the backbone to accomplish what you've accomplished.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome. What a story. When we get
Speaker 2: back right after the nine o'clock news, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about the concept of congestion pricing. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: It is coming to a downtown area near you. And
Speaker 2: why do you hear? I think one of the dumbest
Speaker 2: governors in America, Kathy Hokeel, talk about congestion pricing. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Stay with us.