Speaker 1: Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back the second ever
Travis and Taylor told You. My name is Tres now
Clomperance Podcast, and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: My favorite customer, Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: My favorite customer. What is that from?
Speaker 2: Isn't that uh you.
Speaker 1: Know Carl Weathers my favorite man? No, it was my
favorite Mandalorian.
Speaker 2: By the week, I thought we joked and turned into
like customer or something like that.
Speaker 1: Well kind of it's like the what is it the
turbo man, like don't forget one customer? So yes, but yeah,
the story of this is so funny enough. I would
have like perfect, Trest told you is live Monday and Wednesdays,
twelve thirty pm PSD. That might change the next couple
of weeks because uh also this week could change, and
then next week for Smashing Machine as well, might do
the Friday, because I'll probably see the on the Thursday.
But funny enough, men weren't dropped the Monday. It's like, oh, perfect,
Obviously lots of stuff happened. I'll talk about that probably
on to Moorre's episode. Trust told you of just some
delays and whatnot. But so either way, if I was
doing trastol your money would have just done it. But
before or after I was like, well, if I do
do it, at some point, I would like to make
sure that mister Field is around, because you know, mister
star Wars himself probably has a few things to say.
And now we're just doing a miniso here because I
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I got lots of Spider Man rumors. They cast Tombstone today,
so check out. That's a little preview for that. And yeah,
the reason this is happening as well too. We thought
jen V was gonna be lieve for us, but I
guess I've changed it to midnight our time, so we'll
be reviewing that tomorrow along with the Marvel Zombies, so
look out for that. But yeah, no usually do. But
I've talked with this a few times. Truss told you
said just had some breathing issues, so she had to
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aneumonia again. So I'll do the long form of it
tomorrow if I got some time. But everything's all right,
She's okay, she's got an hailer that she fucking hates now,
but you know that is like and luckily she's doing okay.
So that's why I got some stuff built up to talk.
And then yeah, we just did Alien Earth? What is that?
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did he did he do right? He did it? He
did do it right. Okay, well we'll see the description though.
Did he do that right? He did do that right? Okay,
so he figured it out. But yeah, Alien Earth is there,
gen v, Marvel Zombies, Peacemaker, all the reviews we got
going on, we got side Quest, we got trust told you,
Like I said, I'll probably be reviewing one bat after
another and Smashing Machine next couple episodes. And yeah, lots
of just good stuff. Retros, lots of exclusive retros. Tron
retros are for the Patron producers right now, but soon
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We got h Christmas, we got tons of stuff happening.
But yes, mister Field, what did you think? I feel
like this is a very much like everything was Star Wars.
Everything you know is down below, but much of everything
that starts. I feel like there's two things that kind
of surprise about this before we bring on the trailers.
One not surprising, I guess. The one that didn't surprise
me is I feel like it's divided. I feel like
there's people like say for it, and a lot of
people that are like, oh man, this is not this
is not great, not a great introduction. I guess I'll
share some of my thoughts later, like more in depth.
But the other thing I will say that I was
not surprised about, but now I feel better about my
pizza bed And maybe you're definitely more of the positive
side of me. But I don't know if you can
feel it or where your groups are. Maybe you'll tell
me otherwise, but I feel like there's like a lack
of hype for this trailer when it came out. I
feel like the way when I think about all the
other movies, even when we had Solo and that had
a Super Bowl spot like that, those felt so big
and it felt like an event. All the stars movie
cast is going good morning America. It's we had a
Super Bowl to be celebration. It felt like a big
deal and this just dropped being randly obviously there's some
other news that like probably that's probably why they dropped it,
but I'll say that they should have still held on
because I'll say the role this felt very anti Clement
and just gonna be like, oh here it is like
this feels like if we were getting another season, the
show would make sense because it's for a movie, the
first Star Wars movie in six or seven years at
that point, I just feel like there's just kind of
like alright, And I Don'm not saying that's about Star
Wars per se, because I bet I hopefully with Starfighter
that'll be a bigger hoopla, but I just feel like
Star Wars probably deserves a little bit more. So what
do you What have you felt since the release of
this before we actually talk about said trailer?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for me, the uh, the release has
just been it's been hype. There's been a lot of
things in here that rumors and whatnot that's been drawing
me in and had me really really excited certain things.
And I think that's because I'm a little bit biased
and I'm a little bit more particular when it comes
to certain Clone Wars things. So when we get into
this trailer and it just kind of feels like it's
got a lot of that, there's a lot of other
things in here that I don't recognize, and I was googling.
I was thinking, okay, like what, what exactly is all
this stuff? And people are like, oh, this is from
like a Legends thing. This is from something else that's
like you know, Canon or whatever. It's like, okay, so
there's a few other things can apparently because I would google,
it'd be like, oh, this alien that I've never seen before.
It's like, oh, this is apparently a race that's apparently
from like like you to Pow for Revenge of the
Sith and all these other things. Like holy shit. Okay,
So there's there's some deep cuts in here, even that
stuff that I'm not familiar with as a Star Wars fan.
But that's being said, yes, there are some real world
implications right now that is held put Disney up at
the chopping block, and it's preemptively made them announce some things,
including you know, this trailer, And I I was kind
of hoping that we get trailer a long time ago,
because I remember it was a while ago that a
preview leaked and then we got the trailer.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, sorry, wrong thing.
Speaker 2: We got another one that I felt like they showed it, yeah,
because it leaked, and I felt like there were two
instances where they showed it. They showed it once and
then they showed it again at Star Wars celebration.
Speaker 1: So they have shown a version of this trailer. This
is a apparently feel that saw that even igent te
this trailer is not even in a million views. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are probably just not
like it's just because yeah, it came out of nowhere,
like a trailer like this, you want to drop it
with something. Every other Star Wars trailer has come out
during a major event, I would say, right, that's well.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying there's usually some build up to it.
But yeah, I'd still say if tomorrow they dropped the
Avengers Doomsday trailer, that things breaking a million. I gn
you know, like.
Speaker 2: I would say yes for Star Wars though all the
all these other Star Wars trailers. I remember, even like
when Rogue one was about to be dropping the trailer,
I remember all that whole weekend, it was like, oh,
Monday incoming the Star Wars trailer for a while, it's like,
oh shit, so they preemptively set that build up for this. No,
there was nothing. It was just rumors they could.
Speaker 1: Have done that. Though they could have, they could have,
like if it was rumors and whispers that it wasn't
like the stuff that because like supposedly like it's not
even get political. But supposedly they came out last week
that hey, when all the Jimmy's Camel stuff went down,
they're gonna drop a bunch of news. They dropped Muppet
Show news, they dropped Daredevil, and then there's rumors, Oh,
we're gonna drop Jimmy Kimmel, but or no, they did
drop him for a week. Then we're gonna drop Mandalorian.
But the thing was when that happened, we didn't get
it for that week, and then that was, oh, it's
gonna go on Monday. So it's like if they thought
about it, like, hey, we're dropping on the Monday. Why not,
Like they got Star Wars Twitter accounts, why not just Friday, Saturday,
Sunday you posed a screenshot from the trailer and that
just builds up a little more hype. Just something to
you don't even have to officially statesman lawien trip, but
just have people guessing what's happening, like it, That's what
I mean. Like that just felt like I did a
million times more promotion for you know, check out Extra
Life November eighth. I gotta make sure that day is.
I got to start printing that out now we will
all start this week. I should on Alien Earth. Uh yeah,
November eight, there's Extual Life And even for Geefer's day,
I feel like I did more promotion than what this
trailer got. And we're not a billion dollar corporation tailor.
Speaker 2: We're just a no And that's true, Like it's you
you make your own content, right, Like that's what they're doing.
They're in they're creative content creators and all that kind
of stuff. So why they didn't just pump up their
content and get everyone like stoked for it, I don't know.
It's just it seems very redundant. It's a missed opportunity,
because yeah, it's it's those are low hits for for
a trailer viewing, that's for damn sure. But I don't
think it's gonna Well, we broke it down. The discord,
go join the Discord check it out, and I can
realistically probably like realistically, would see it as what we
discussed that Jurassic World rebirth, that eight hundred million mark.
I want to believe it'll hit a billion. But when
you talk about movie ticket prices in the family and
all that kind of stuff, there's a lot of realistic
kind of perspective. And added to that because movie tickets
are expensive, I do think kids are going to absolutely push, uh,
you know, the parents to go see this. I think
that's a big thing because like, especially when the parents
see like, oh, you got Grogu, we're a little little
baby Yoda and you got Man, You're like, oh, the
kids are gonna love this kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: I say a huge cell No, you know what they'll say.
They'll say, hey, give me that Ramon hit the Disney
plus bun boom, here you go.
Speaker 2: Because my kids, that works on the little kids, that
works than the little kids. But when kid is like
eight years old, nine years old, they know it's a
new movie. They know and they're gonna be fucking screaming
and pushing for.
Speaker 1: That if that's what they want to see the most.
Like we brought up, I brought with you that because
I think you and Sam Green, who just joined uh
Patreon and Discords, thinking Sam Green one of our producers here,
I think, to me, it's the thing of there's a
lot of kids stuff out next year, right, like, well.
Speaker 2: How do you defer and define that that kid mentality
where this kid's like, okay, toy story or you're going
to see Manduin Grogu? Because I feel like those yes,
they're both like kids for sure, can see both, but
I feel like one is much more the cool, older
kind of kid and one's like more the tother young
little kid.
Speaker 1: I think unfortunately Star Wars is not the cool er
kid thing anymore. I think it's kind of like what
we talked about with Superman and a Fantastic four versus
Jurassic World. That's more kid oriented. But still the end
of the day, what are kids are gonna choose?
Speaker 2: More?
Speaker 1: They chose to see dinosaurs, Like I love dinosaurs, I
don't because to me.
Speaker 2: This Star Wars is that it's like, oh, they're gonna
see aliens and the cool guy with like the armor. Right.
Speaker 1: No, Star Wars is not cool right now, you got Mandalorian.
Speaker 2: For you, But I know kids are into it.
Speaker 1: But that's what you're Okay. No, now you're saying, like,
what are you defining as age of kids? Because you
were talking about like eight to ten?
Speaker 2: To me that eight ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's where I don't think this is cool.
I think this is cool on the three to eight spectrum,
but the problem is in the three day spectrum. I
think there's more people that like this is this is
what the craziest thing was. We saw Revenge of the
Sith and we've been watched the other ones. When I
showed Logan this trailer yesterday, she shows, oh, I don't want
to see that. Well, you like the other Star Wars.
I say, yeah, I know. She's like, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: You're probably manipulating a little bit. This looks terrible.
Speaker 1: I say nothing, same thing. My kids think I liked Minecraft,
Oh yeah, that was tons of fun. I don't. I
don't want them to think negatively about stuff. And then
Logan's like, well, mom won't see that. I'm like, what
do you mean. She's like, oh, she hates Star Wars.
I'm like, mom's watching. No. It was some weird Logan
narrative because I'm like, Mum's watching all the stars stuff
with us. Right now. Sure we're being Star Wars for Halloween.
She's like, I don't know, like it didn't in thall
like intrigue her as much. And that's like she's uh
six now, so I the same thing to me, that's
the thing. Where for the let's say eight, because what
is a pre thirteen? So i'd say a preteen let's
say is eight to twelve. I don't think Star Wars
is the cool thing. I think it is something like
whatever minecraft it is. I don't know what that is.
That's a we'd have to look on the calendar. So
for me, then if you're going from like the five
to eight, I think they're gonna pick Mario for sure
over that. I think they're gonna pick toy story because
toy story is something that doesn't matter that for us,
like for as met that runs again that they're always
doing Disney plus shorts and like they they keep fuel
and toy story for multiple generations. There was some other
let me see. The other thing is I think this
is still younger demographic, but like, uh, minions is gonna
be picked over like I think if I showed maybe
not Gwen because Gwen now is she's ran the cut.
So she's eight, So that's where like she might pick that,
but she's starting to let more adults up at the
same things. Like I think if you were to put it, like, hey,
would you rather go see That's like there's another one Mulwana.
If I say, hey, do you want to see live
action Mauana or the grogu ONEm Wana's gonna get it.
I'm not saying man Lurian is going to be a
bomb or any think that, but I do think now
it's gonna be a little lower with the lack of
hype and how many family movies there are out next
year because people got to save money. That's the thing
that happened this year. Certain family movies just like did
really well and some did all right, Like a snow
right right where the snow white isn't that same boat
where it's just not cool anymore. It's not for a
certain demo. Maybe I'm wrong, but I I don't know
if Star Wars is cool right now. I don't think
it is.
Speaker 2: But I have to. I wonder if there's some way
to like figure that out, do like all.
Speaker 1: Next year or see how it does. But you know,
you in the discord is it, you know, like, I
don't know how you'd word that, but step Mike says,
it feels like Lucasfilm is already ready to move on
to Starfire, their big hope. This is like an afterthought,
That's why it feels. And again, don't forget this is
like Moana too, this was supposed to be on Disney. Plus,
this is just the episodes chopped up, put into a movie,
and it feels like that we'ring in that visually. It
feels like that to me where Matt Laurens still times
looks really good for a TV show, don't get me wrong,
But then we talk about multiple times and misses that
cinematic thing like I'd put almost any of the Disney
I have not seen Solo more than one and a half,
so I can't speak to that. But the sequel trilogy,
gorgeous movies, Rogue One, gorgeous movies, So like those movies,
like the Disney Plasu shows hold nothing to that. So
that's where it's tough. But yeah, we'll we'll find out,
like next year it's gonna be the thing. But yeah,
I feel like you feel less confident on you and
Dylan's pizza bet right, as far as it making a
billion now.
Speaker 2: I still feel like there's a there's a good chance.
And again, like you have, you got a lot of
Disney plus content, you really really do. But the big
kicker at the end of the day here is Star
Wars hasn't been on the big screen for seven years.
By the time that movie comes out, that's uh six ers, but.
Speaker 1: I'll be seven, it'll be seven when this comes out. Yeah,
and that could help. Or if this doesn't do well,
then to me, it's gonna go that you should have
not led with this because the first movie back is
very important. Like I said, we're gonna find out too
just people that I just feel like there's tons of
people that will choose to just wait for streaming because
they're already conditioned to watch Man or Mandalorian and Grogu
at home. Do they Yeah, I'll wait till home. I'll
watch it there because there's tons of stuff. Right, there's
sons of people that did that with that.
Speaker 2: Four is but you've got a lot of people did
that with that four.
Speaker 1: Really, you had your friend when we saw Superman, remember
you're talking about Fantastic four, and he was like, Eh,
I'll see it streaming right Like, that's what I mean,
like there's more people now, especially with.
Speaker 2: Streaming, Yes, and that's not because of them right now,
that's you can't watch that home right now. But I
don't see that as being like the movie being like
a downer in itself. I think it's just this state
of the world that they've they've created for the past
few films like Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1: You could say the same thing with with Star Wars,
Boba fed the last season with the shows.
Speaker 2: With the shows, absolutely, but again.
Speaker 1: You can't say that Rice Skywalker, Last Jedi, you can't
say there's a bunch of people that watch them went
fuck these.
Speaker 2: You can't. But still billion dollar movies, right So, especially
after Last Jedi, still a billion dollar movie.
Speaker 1: Whereas is this the last Extinction moment where Rice Skywalker
came out and last year and then people man Warre
and Grogu comes up, And I don't know, Like I
said before, the conjuring thing surprised me. That deems like
like there's tons of surprises. I still don't think this.
I think I I'm on the seven hundred million mark
because I when Mike said, you thought of it more
like Souperman. I was like, you know what I could
see that they thought Jurassic World. We don't know what
foreign's gonna be because lots of movies have done well
on the foreign and well, actually know, most of the
big ones have not done as well. Jurrassic World did,
but tons of the other ones, like Superman bombed there.
So the same thing of like when this comes out
in foreign markets, are they like yay Star Wars say like, eh,
we got our own space stuff. We don't need to
see this. And that's what we can't predict either the
fore markets is obviously we don't live there, so we
have no idea how they're reacting.
Speaker 2: To this type of stuff, right rightse of Skywalker made
five hundred and sixty one point eight million internationally. That's
pretty good. Yeah, I know it's super COVID and all that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but like look a look at what Aucaman
one made international and look at what a Cooman two
made international. Like the problem is the international, like box office,
they're getting their own movies. Now, they have their own
own movies that we don't need to wait for Hollywood
defeat this stuff they're making like they got fucking Niza
too biggest movie of the year. That's a I think
movie from China or Japan, one of the others. You know,
So I supposiz it does. But does it? Not being
afore sorry, but does it? Not being on the big
screen for so long says that people just think it's
small screen franchise, and that could be it because we
got so much that definitely hurt Marvel, right, the show
is having so many on there A lot of people
like I don't even see it, so that's anything that
they did so much. I think it does help that.
I don't think they're putting out I don't count on
animation animation. I don't think Ahsoka two is gonna be
out before this. I don't do you, And I think
they'd be smarter not to put it out. I feel
like it'd be smarter to wait.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna get any Star Wars aside
from Vision season three before this movie, and.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, or like they've got other tails cooking some well, no,
remember there's Darth Maul still, they got that going on.
Speaker 2: Darth Mall show's not coming out before Mendo movie though.
I think that's coming out after for sure.
Speaker 1: And to me the same time, I know people might
not let me say this. I don't think the animation matters.
I think the people that look at the lots of people, oh,
that's the kids thing, and they don't think that affects
the movie, So I don't think it would matter. So
Mic says, also, don't forget your banking on the audience
limited to those who made it through all three seasons
of Manuel. And that could be the other thing, right,
if there's people that dropped out after season two, not
because they disliked it, just because they haven't seen it.
If it's the homework thing, there's two things either, And
this could be helpful. If the Manduarre movie is close
and we start to see those seasons spike, that could
work and that could do well the same way like
Peacemaker season one spiked and then season two happen. I
don't know what the numbers are for two are, but
the premiere and whatnot we're big, so that I think
will be a big indicator as well, Mike, where maybe
people go, oh, yeah, I should catch up on the
show I liked it, or if it is like, eh,
that's too much for me. I'm not gonna go that route, right,
and that's what we'll see because there's very few, like
it's very limited the amount of TVs to movies. And
I think some been successful, some haven't so but I
can't remember the biggest one since we've been podcast asking
that was a TV show into a movie, Like I
know there's like Downton Abbey, but they have like they
make those like very cheap or like peaky blinders, like
cheap stuff, you know, not cheap, but just like smaller budgets,
you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well I just had some basic math. This
is it's not even good. So, uh, Mandalorian season three
and I'm this is very loose information. I for the
ease of access and the speed and expedited results here,
I had AI help me out the finale attracting five
point three nine million viewers for the Mendo season three.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a big awsom, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: Big drop? Big drop? So if you were to take
five million viewers and times that I say fifteen dollars
a ticket, you're sitting on eighty million. So it's looking
rough right now. For this isn't the proper I don't
think they based their projections on this kind of mapp Can.
Speaker 1: You imagine it just makes eighty million? Sorry Kathy Kennedy
and fucking Foloni would on the next book. Yeah no,
And again you gotta think about that too. That's where
substance always work because like when I watched any of
that stuff, there's also like three other people in the household, right,
so if I because me and the girls will go
see this. I know. I don't know why Logan had
that take, because she likes Star Wars. She there's some
she likes more than other. But I was just surprised.
I guess she just wasn't an amb like they like
Rogue with us. And then I guess, And that's where
we can pull up this trailer. I just think. I
think that's the problem is the trailer. Hopefully the next
one will have something because it says official trailer, not teaser.
The next one needs like a hook. And again I
worry because supposedly the plot of this is just like
a remake of that Clone Wars episode where like Road
to the Hut gets kidnapped and they'll get them back, which.
Speaker 2: You know, in defense of this, the story that's very
obscure and not a lot of people like I saw
that in theaters and the theater was dead empty. But
hardly anyone, I think, because.
Speaker 1: History history hardly his time.
Speaker 2: Hardly anyone knows about who the Road to the Highlands
and so it's new for that.
Speaker 1: I agree. No, no, I agree with that. I mean
that is not an intriguing story in general, that pitch
of something like that. I know it's completely off the bandwagon, right,
but something like Weapons where when Weapons has that thing
of it, it has all the viral marketing. It's like at
you know whatever five am kids went missing. That's how
that movie made so much money because I had a
great hook, right, like, oh man, like what happened these kids?
If the hook of this is Jab of the huts,
son is kidnapped and man has to save them.
Speaker 2: The movie, that's I think that's a hook. I think
it's a hook.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. I'm telling you that's not a hook.
That's that is not a hook whatsoever.
Speaker 2: People auld be like what Java had a son? Oh man,
we're gonna go in this Manualorian adventure where like the
Empires involved. Oh this is cool.
Speaker 1: No to me again, opposite Rogue, one fantastic hook. Oh
you know those death start plans, so they destroyed it. Uh,
this is a movie about highly got those plans. That's like, oh,
that's a fantastic hook. Absolutely tailor you destroying the death.
So that's a billion dollar movie.
Speaker 2: I'm back to the bill. Yeah yeah, but you I
feel like you crapped a that movie and and whatnot.
I've never heard you preach all.
Speaker 1: First of all, everyone can go and listen to the
first review. I gave that movie an eight at ten,
So say I crapped on it just because I did
not love it, Like you think it's best. It's not.
You're going off over score. It is overrated. But secondary
the hook is just the promotion. It's just the trailers,
and that to me is a good hook. We're solo
just had Hey you want to see Young Han and
everyone's like, no, not really. So that's why I just
feel like with it's like, hey, you want to see
Java song? Not really like and I know they're showing
Sangourney Weaver. I just don't think the hook is like
they need And that's why I worry is they need
something juicy to get people back where I don't think
this like, I don't think they have it. And then
I don't think that's gonna like I don't know how
you show that off like that, Like if that's the
hook that's done, even the hook of to me Starfighter,
if that's the plot, which sounds like it is, is
kid is for sensitive, we got to get him from
to and from That is a hook. I'm not saying
that's an amazing hook, but at LISTA it's like, oh, okay,
and ads Ryan Gossling, right, it's like, okay, it's you're
trying to get your four sensitive nephew to Ray whoever?
Right like that that's a hook right there, everyone could
have met. We've never seen that perspective, right of we
always see the Jedi taking the kid. What if it's
the person that isn't the family and the kid has
to go? We get that for like small amounts, that's
the hook, the hook of Okay, you know in this
trailer there's no hook. It's just like look at Star
Wars stuff and at the next one is we got
to get Rhoda's son, you know, or or Java's son.
I don't think that does much. I I don't know,
like that's the thing. And but again maybe there's just
people that I miss Star Wars. There's so much that's
gonna be answered in May, and luckily Avengers is gone.
I just wanted to do a quick look of what's
in May now. But yeah, Avengers being gone helps a
big time in May because before I was like, they
gotta move, let's see that's around there.
Speaker 3: So May.
Speaker 1: World Combat too, They're fine. Devilware's proud of to They're fine.
Wortal Combat too, or I said that end Animal Friends.
So May they got nothing's they got a lot of
room to make a bunch of money because they got
The Mummy in April seventeenth and then which is a
different audience, and same thing they got Michael April twenty fourth,
but that's a different audience. So really people would be
saving up till then. June's tough because you got Masters
in the Universe, Spielberg movie, Pixar or Toy Story and Supergirl.
So if and that's the only thing I will say
you should worry about everyone wants to be a hit
is Toy Story five because I could see a few
families if they can only pick one movie to see
and it is like a family of four to five
like mine, which I don't cause I just go see
every fucking thing, and luckily I'm in the position. Also
we can write stuff off for the business. But if
people are looking at a poster of within three weeks
it's Mandalorian or Toy Story, I think more people go
with the Toy Story route in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bigger families would, But I could see a
lot of just like, oh, the one parent takes the
one kid to go and see Star Wars. Maybe maybe not,
that's tricky, that's a.
Speaker 1: Pulpos actual trailer. See I pulled up because.
Speaker 2: What did what did Toy Story four make? It was
a billion and Toy Story three was a billion billion?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then obviously it's different. But light Year ate
it right, But you could argue that was because the
gang wasn't there. You could argue there was also COVID
movie right like around like just after COVID, So that
was that time, remember where Disney was doing all their
movies like Day one. Yeah, and then that's where I
think a lot of families were like, oh, I'll just
wait for on Disney Plus. So I think that one's
that's a tough thing to gauge. It's like when people
will bring up James Guns Suicide Squad of like, well,
we can't really gauge if that was a hit or
not because it came out of time. But yeah, the
last two, so the metrical like non COVID times both
billion dollar movies.
Speaker 2: Well it's interesting because then when you look at like, yeah,
Last Jedi, Redis Scotwalker both billion and Toy Story three
and four both billions, So it's yeah, that's a tricky
one to look at.
Speaker 1: And you could say light Year and Solo are kind
of equivalent, right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you do you think both franchises, well,
let's just say Star Wars definitely, there's some content. There's
some contention about it being fatigue or the franchise dating
Toy Story. You could have that kind of franchise fatigue.
Speaker 1: No, because the Disney plus stuff they get is only
like a couple of shorts. I think a lot of
people people just wrote light Year off and they weren't
like me, who always wanted that movie and I enjoyed
it for it was wasn't like an all timer, but
a lot of people, you know, were's Adventures of Star Command.
I want that too, But no, I think because it's
like the drastic World thing. There's a lot of Drastic
world movies, but they come in a very like delayed,
not delayed, but a finite and not a finite. I'm
saying every wrong word. There's not as many drastic dinal
movies as there is Superheroes movies. Right, So the same
thing as Toy Story. You have what you have already
eleven Star Wars movies and then you got pelted with
a bunch of shows after COVID right, Actlight, Skeleton Crew, Mandalorian,
Bubba Fett, what else ahsokah obi wan And that's not
on the animated stuff, right, So I think that's why
there's way more Star Wars stuff than Toy Story. Like
I said, all this stuff like ask for ky a
question that's like a five minute thing all together, you know,
Like I don't think people watch ask a for Like, oh,
it's too much Toy story going on. Do you know
what ask a Forky is? Is that what you're searching
out right now? No?
Speaker 2: That was the short, right the toys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were just like ten like forty second shorts
of Forky being like this is how money works, this
is how a stapler works, like that type of stuff,
you know, right, And they have those other shorts on there,
which are really have you ever watched all those shorts
o there? Like the Luel Party and now I.
Speaker 2: Should have no interest in no, So the.
Speaker 1: One, the one you should watch is the Halloween one,
the Toy Story tearor one or whatnot. I think they would
probably be safe for seteen too. That's like, that's a
fun like there's some black and white stuff. You should
watch that one. The rest of them are like cute enough,
but that one's actually good. It's like a twenty two
minute episode, like it's it's good. So but here we go,
let's get this trailer. That shot looking good. I like
that one. This shot looking like the fucking Volume all
over the place.
Speaker 2: It just looks so this looks like the Volume. I
feel like it's like they're actually on a beach here.
Speaker 1: Then it's all the color grading, though, is what I mean?
Like it just doesn't look like that in front of
them should be. I'm talking about the very background.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the back it looks to me
it looks like it's actual beach. I think it's color grading.
Speaker 1: It's some monocolous.
Speaker 2: It feels remdicentce of the first trailer two from bend
of season one.
Speaker 1: Babble Freak and Go Boost. They're definitely trying to hit
up those kids and toys and everything. This these shots
are here sin morning. This is not looking Why is
it so bright everywhere? Why is so bright everywhere? This
is what I mean? Like, this is where it just
looks cinematically as well. In my opinion, it's just donet know,
but she's playing somebody, so you know, any ideas.
Speaker 2: Oh, some new Republic officer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's grow group.
Speaker 2: Do you think we could see a Leya in here?
Do you think they dare do h Because I mean
they mentioned her in Ahsoka that she's kicking around. She
couldn't appear at Harrison Doula's court summons or whatever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna say no because I don't think
they're ready to do that yet. I do think there
is a future in the next five years where the
characters get recast so they can tell stories without like
an Ai Young Luke, and I think people might stand.
I think, yeah, I want I want some Bastian, I'm
not sure who for Leah. I don't want Alden back
for Solo. I think that would be a big mistake.
I think they should go somewhere else with that, but
I'll say no to Leya. I don't think they're gonna
do that. What was that thing right there?
Speaker 2: That thing I can't remember the name of it, but
that's something from we've seen before in Star Wars. I
think he was in just Revenge of the Sith that
that species. But yeah, there you go. Guy's razor pressed again,
which has some nice colors themes on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, zeb is again another character
of people thought they were lost for Soka, gonna be
lost again there. So there's a whole family of Bob
who freaks.
Speaker 2: But yeah, which we saw in Mando, right, and yeah,
you're right, that's where shopping.
Speaker 1: Rod. Yeah, I guess he's gonna get kidnapped and they're
gonna go see how's this guy getting kidnapped? This guy's
looking like Banks.
Speaker 2: You know what? He reminds me of played the scene
here again of him, go back, go back like a second.
Speaker 3: Fucking roday perk Roda's grobly in some bowform.
Speaker 2: Now those things do you recognize what those are?
Speaker 1: No? They look cool? I like that.
Speaker 2: Do you remember in Mendo season three below mandalor that
like weird like robotic guy with like the Okay, I'll
find a picture. Remember he was like harvesting the juice
out of Mando and both town came and saved him
underground under mandalor.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, don't remember this?
Speaker 2: Okay, hang on.
Speaker 1: I probably will try to rewatch because I like season
one and then I loved season two. Season three was
very uneven. But maybe I'll watch What the Kids again too,
trying to get them affiliate with it again. But no,
I like the look of that, and that's where you know,
hopefully some big fun adventures can happen. I will say
while Taylor's gone, because I'll go to this, the font,
to the title, everything, and I know you were on
the opposite out side. That poster's awful.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that poster. It just feels one hundred
percent just like a sixties seventies kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I love how it feels like a bad I like
the vibe. It feels like someone did bad photoshop to
get that. I've seen them. I've seen Star Wars and
even episodes of Mandalorian do that better? This felt like
again a thrown together, like oh fuck, we can Jimmy
Kimmel people are man, let's good trail there. Here's the poster.
That poster is not good. I'm surprised as a graphic
designer you like that one because that I.
Speaker 2: Love how old it feels. That vintage just feels like
that classic Mandalorian vibe.
Speaker 1: Last thing to me it does and it looks like
a new old, like a new thing trying to be old,
where other times they've had actually look old. So I
just it's not saying that. But yeah, we're still waiting
for So here's the I'm gonna you're gonna have to
kill my trailer, aren't.
Speaker 2: You remove wow ad, So remember this guy? No you
don't remember this, fucking I don't.
Speaker 1: Mandalorian Season three is men.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you don't remember this dude with the one eye.
Here is a better shot. He was in the big
robot thing fighting Boca Tan underground.
Speaker 1: Nice cool a little a little now.
Speaker 2: And then after like after he like harvested Mando underneath
and he was like going back to his dead and
after his machine broke down, he was like he's got
his eye here. He was like sucking the juice out
of Mando Anyways, he's looking mighty similar to the little
group here. These guys look very very similar. I could
be totally wrong, could be totally wrong, but they very
much look like it. And I wouldn't be surprised if,
like we're gonna be on mandalor after the fallout of
season three. We know Mandalorians have taken it back. So
maybe Mando's going around underground doing some purging and eliminating
all these bad guys. Uh so, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Remember when they did this whole storyline that Mandalora was
supposed to wake up from, like realizing he was in
a cult, but then he just decided to rejoin the
cult episode.
Speaker 2: This is the way.
Speaker 1: That's Revenge of Seth.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you who. Yeah, your favorite scene coming
up here?
Speaker 1: You gotta Once I showed you the images, you you
knew what I was putting down because something this just
looks good.
Speaker 2: I like how it looks. Lieuls the view count? Did
you say that view count?
Speaker 1: Just shoot up?
Speaker 2: Holy shit?
Speaker 1: That's on Star Wars not okay, I looked at it
for fucking rise. Skywalker last time was fifty seven million,
so eight million, fifty seven million? No, man, that does that?
This looks like I said before, and we'll go out.
This looks like those apps when they're like you can
put anything on your phonoto moving.
Speaker 2: It looks like good. I liked.
Speaker 1: I can't they were biases in here with the poster
with this, I can't trust you with this.
Speaker 2: This looks good. And the way they camouflage this heavy
amount of CGI too, by using the snow, the dirt
and the like the they camouflage and this is what
you want to do. It's like with Jurassic Park you
got the tx CG, you got a camouflage looking up.
Speaker 1: This is literally like you want to be in sto
our wars, get our app and you put at eighties there.
Speaker 2: I think they I think it looks there's so much detail,
like when they're walking, can see the like poofstuff their feets.
There's just a lot of nice little detail. And there
even this logo. I love the logo too.
Speaker 1: Just something's awful about it.
Speaker 2: It feels like fan generally that's the worst CGI in
the whole trailer. Is this rat creature?
Speaker 1: No, it's stilly eighty eighties. No, you know that one's
better than that. But yeah, we'll see then, how's Lugwig
the wrong thing then, as Lugwig is gonna come back
because he didn't score season three, so I'm excited by that.
So yeah, I Luckily for me, I'm gonna just go
buy a bunch of big, you know, bags of corn
for me and the girls. We're gonna watch us have
a good time. I think from that perspective, it's gonna
be a fun time. Maybe not Logan. Maybe Logan's gonna
be sass, but I think she'll she'll end up liking it,
maybe not as much as Superman. She fucking loves Superman,
but we're gonna enjoy that. So I know I'll have
a time. But as an actual movie, I don't know.
I'm expecting, Like I'm being generous by saying seven, but
I think I'm really expecting like a six. I don't
know that's what I'm expecting there. But yeah, I can't
wait to see box office and how it does. But yeah,
that trailer did nothing for me. With a fanfare the posters,
this trailer, it didn't get me more excited. Hopefully the
next trail it does, but clearly got you more excited.
Speaker 2: Got me more excited. I just love the idea of
just a big adventure on the big screen of Mando
just doing what he does. He's on the hunt for
imperial warlords working for the New Republic.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you got the dynamic
of him looking for Road of the Hut involved in
there too. So it's just that's that's all I want
right now is to get Star Wars on the big
screen and I get to enjoy Mando, which I already love,
and I get to see Grogu. And if there's any
kind of takeaway here, it's that most people aren't, you know,
if they haven't caught up with the show and they
haven't followed all the episodes. But maybe they watched that
season they really liked it, but they haven't gotten around
to watching the other stuff. They don't know all the
in depth intricacies about uh Grogu leaving and then coming back.
Speaker 1: So probably most of them don't, but that can't might
not care. Maybe they did. Maybe those people. Maybe that's
why season three went away, I don't know. Maybe maybe
maybe people are like, oh, he's back already, so we'll
see so uh yeah. And then the two other traps
we had here, just the throwing quickly because we will
be reviewing this show. Is it Welcomed to Dairy? And
then I just threwned The Bride because, like I said,
I got enough news for trast anymore that I don't
need it. But I also want your opinion because obviously
you're a big monster movie guy. They're having big comebacks.
You know, we had nos Frotts last year and lots
of vampire stuff going on. We got uh were Wolf
coming out with Robert Eggers, but there's you Got the
Mummy next year. So obviously this is Frankenstein Fringston's Monster
and the Bride, but a very different like visually, and
just the time period looks like it's somewhat more Monday.
You got the a musing guns and then you also
got to it Welcome. There was our first full trailer.
So yeah, how you feel about these two horror ones.
It premieres October twenty six, which, again I'll say, stupid date.
I understand that they probably want the first episode of
a week of Halloween. To me, all of October is
like Halloween ish, like I just because the end to me,
even though it's like in Halloween, maybe people bingebunch episoce
I don't know. I would love to ask them their
strategy of not dropping on in early October, but it
is dropping October twenty six, and then it ends in Christmas,
so yeah, and then The Bride's not out till March.
But obviously stat Cash directed by Maggie Jillenhall, but Jake
Jollenholl's in there, uh Buckley Bail. There's somebody else too,
But yeah, what are you feeling about these two trailers
on the horror side? In this spooky season? You watching
spooky movies yet I wanted to watch.
Speaker 2: Monster House with Madison thinks it's a little too adult
for seteen, So.
Speaker 1: Well, I think so for what you guys watched. Emily's
not gonna let me put on goosebumps while with Pumpkin Carve,
So you guys are lucky. We're gonna put on like very.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we'll all I'll vote her. She won't have
a say no.
Speaker 1: She's like if she can't even watch this Ronald, So
it's gonna be like fucking Wing of the Pooh and stuff.
Speaker 2: But that's okay, how music but ah, but not scary movie.
But I think The Bride, you know, when it comes
to these these fantastic co uh freaky halloweeny monsters. Frankenstein
was never really like up there for me, Like, I
like the stories, but he's not really my guy. I
am were wolves, vampires, zombies, ghoul description Bail playing them now,
which was you know, seeing him rock at the big
forehead and just and all that is like this is
this is something you know. I I'm very interested.
Speaker 1: I like that Jesse Buckley is playing the bride and
she's like, gotta smudge some weird makeup in the big wig,
but she's still just looking like a good looking woman
like you wouldn't know. I'm sure her skin's very like
I'm sure there's differences, right, but.
Speaker 2: You're not doing a double take of her, but you
are with Bail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might just think, ah, she like works funk
and she's still like a good looking woman. Bail, You're like,
he's standing out like a sore thumb, the bill beforehead,
the nose, the stitches, like he ain't hiding you know.
Speaker 2: No, So yeah, that's I Bail doesn't disappoint. It doesn't disappoint.
So I think he's probably had a lot of fun
doing a role like this, And I am interested like
my My favorite Frankenstein story is probably the one from
Van Hall saying with you Jacquelin, when he's just like
he's a good guy and jacque was trying to capture
him and use him his life source to power. I
like birth all of his vampire babies and whatnot.
Speaker 1: So Monster remembers Frankstin's Monster.
Speaker 2: Don't make the mistake, right, I always just call him Frankenstein.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he might be the good guy, you know,
he might be the good guy.
Speaker 2: Oh what the hell? Uh? There was an old young Frankenstein.
I remember my mom rented that because she always yeah, yeah, yeah,
the family is younger.
Speaker 1: But I should give it another shot and see what
it's like, because I think it's a I think it's
mel Brooks.
Speaker 2: I think, why am I reading Jacob Alordi? What does
Jacob Elordi have to do with this?
Speaker 1: Well, he's in the right. I forgot. We got that
the Germo de Toro one. He's playing freaking Siens monster
in that one.
Speaker 2: Oh, from Boris Karloff to Jacob Alordi. Oh, I was
reading it weird, Okay, I see.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's you did Taylor the Bear not be lying?
He did confirm he would see that if we got
in the he'd review it. If we got in theaters.
I have it on the calendar too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, unless the baby is born that day,
I should I should be there.
Speaker 1: I would, I would hope, I would hope. Not. That's
that's very that's very early. So yeah, with October. It's
mid October.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I mean, I I am interested. I
am interested, but not a.
Speaker 1: For sure theater watch yet. I bet with this one.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think one Frankenstein. I'm okay with
one Frankenstein at a time. We'll space it out like
it's just again, it's not a story I'm running to.
I think once you see it once then it's kind
of like adapted in other ways. But it's just The.
Speaker 1: Bride comes out March six, so it's the week before,
or it's two weeks before Project Hill Mary in the
same day as Pixar's Hoppers. But oh the Bride. I
don't think they're gonna share the same audience, So I
think they're okay.
Speaker 2: Project Hill Mary, Now that's a fucking movie I want
to see.
Speaker 1: We'll be there, I got on the calendar.
Speaker 2: I'll be there too, So and it uh it this
this trailer was really really awesome. It felt a lot
more just story based, like you just totally forget that
there's even like penny Wise is the clown involved at
all in this trailer till the very last little bit,
and it just feels dark. It feels like our heroes
are gonna lose in this. It does not feel like
it's gonna go well for anyone. And I'm really really
I'm just I'm so happy that they got Scars Guard
back as penny Wise. It's just I am so so happy.
Like that's that's always on our rotation every Halloween. Is
it chapter one, chapter two? Like we we it's hit
or miss. We'll put it on sometimes maybe we won't.
You know, it is what it is, but that first
one is so good. It's just an absolute stable, which
funny enough, that's actually when you guys first mat Madison,
when we're doing the we saw it in the theaters
and we did the review. That was first movie. I
took her to the geek first crew. But yeah, so
when it comes to this show, like I'm fucking sold.
I just can't wait. And like I said, with the trailer,
you don't get the gist, the feeling that it is
penny Wise related. You get the feeling that it's tackling
racism and just the like the times and what this
family to do, Yeah, what this family is going to
be dealing with. And that's just you know, there's there's
the the jewalness of that involved in the actual movie
at chapter one, but it's much more or lesser. But
it's just that kind of aesthetic is just what penny Wise,
just as a villain, he leeches and lashes onto and
just like siphons that dark kind of negativity and it
feeds off of it and just grows and so that
and you get like a brief little scene of it
looks like his like comet thing crashing down on earth.
Speaker 1: So I was, yeah, how far I imagine. I don't
know if there's gonna be a segment or I wonder
if they'll be I don't think they'd behold that episode
dedicated to it, but it just like looks like the
origins of it.
Speaker 2: Which I'm stowd. I I can't wait to see that.
I think that's gonna be super cool. And then even
then when it shows like the military like asking questions
about like twenty five missing kids, Like, okay, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: You see, like, no, James Ramar, it looks like he's
a part of the military. He looks that trailer hair
rais there, so oh I did. Yes, hopefully they tied together.
And uh if w B does get bought by Paramount,
they're gonna have Dexter fight penny Wise on the kill table.
Speaker 2: Here go holy shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. I think the good thing is
with because the original series didn't do that, like the
book does a lot, but the original series with John
ritterd did not and Tim Craid did not do that
that much. And then the movies hinted about like, well,
the town's like Rawten too, kind of almost like like
penny Wise is in the sewer, he's at the core
of a city or town and almost like like uh
per per perviates throughout where he is, right, So it's
almost like that gets Rawden because he's there. So I
think with this they're gonna explore that a lot more
because I don't know how much Scarguard is in this.
Between the teaser and this trailer and the poster, we've
only seen him three times, so I don't know if
it's gonna be something that he's used sparingly in each episode,
or if it's gonna be somewhere there's gonna be like, uh,
he's gonna be like in one episode of like a
lot and it's just building up to him. I really
don't know. So I think that's smart what they're showing.
A lots of different creatures and things of their imagination,
but the idea of the town, something's wrong with the town.
I think that's a smart move to do when I
don't think they can use Bill as much. And yeah,
it's interesting to be another time period. I think there's
some stuff that, Yeah, it looks a little TV wise,
I'm not sure effects wise how it's gonna hold up.
But I am excited for this because I am somebody
that I really love the original series as well. I
loved how long it takes, so to me, this is
like inkling back to that where you can meet these
kids and really take time with them and do some stuff,
you know. So but yeah, them showing the asteroid hit,
I say, Okay, I know how long they're gonna dive
into the origin. But the fact that, dude at all
I think is I think it's kind of fun because
they did that already in it one by showing all
these clippings from years and decades and decades ago of
him always being there, right, So yeah, I think there's
some potential there. So I'm everything I'm seeing with this
looks it looks good, looks like it'll be a fun
Austin could be a bit tougher because it's like a series,
so it's not like an easy watch. But I'm somebody
that every couple like. I tried, like I was almost
watched it again. Uh last night I didn't. I put
on a brown choke with Dracula. But I looked at
my letterbox and I just watched it a year ago,
so I agree it to my rotation. I'm trying to
hold off a little bit because I'm trying to try
to watch the movie I haven't seen a while, or
some horror movies I haven't seen. Because usual what happens
is I watch all my usual suspects and then I
don't watch anything new or anything I haven't seen. Ah,
I'm like, oh, so I'm trying this here to watch
some newer stuff. But yeah, and then the ride. I'm
really excited for this. I for me, this is gonna
be I think I'll see this in theaters unless it's
very very terribly reviewed or life gets in the way.
But I love the visual style. I thpe they're going
here and at least this is like you know, don't
get me wrong, I love No Speratu, but that was
you sit down, you know, like Edgar says he's gonna
tackle or adapt the book very well. When you sit down,
nos Ferrato, you didn't know how Bill Scarscar was gonna play,
and you didn't know the visuals everything. But she kind
of knew the story from point to point B how
it's gonna go, right if you know the story of
nos Rock to Drackla all that stuffhere go Okay, we
know how this is gonna end. We know the certain
beats where this looks like it's definitely just taking the
concept of Okay, it's Frank scis Monster the Bride. They
wake her up in there together, but they look like
they're kind of like doing like a Bonnie and Clyde
thing going on. They're run around beating people up. So yeah,
I think visually, like even at the end, I love
the throwback where she's like her head in like a
some water bowl and it looks like it's like a
classic Monsters movie. So my only thing is I hope
that the movie is as stylized as the trailer, like,
not exactly, because the movie should still be not just
like a trailer, like it should have some obviously story,
you know, through points. Shouldn't be like what Suicide Squad
was in twenty sixteen, where it just feels like a
movie version of a trailer. But yeah, I am, I'm
there for Bail. I still think I have a Yeah,
I think it's my number one. Bail is still to
be the greatest actor of all time, and even this
looks like he's doing something different he hasn't done before.
So I like Jesse Buckley and I don't know if
they're gonna have any scenes together, but I said this
in the discord, I don't think Jake Jillenhall and Christian
Bale have ever been in a movie together. So that's
gonna intriguing duo. And uh yeah, it's fun time it
all back together. Like Maggie jillen Hall and Bail did
The Dark Knight together and now she's directing a movie
and he's in that, so uh yeah, I will very
likely be there, and uh say, I do think they
maybe should have put this in the fall. I know
it's not gonna probably be like a traditional horror movie,
but putting in March is kind of odd to me.
I don't know what it's gonna do there. So yeah,
we'll see you and go from there. But anything else
here you want to mention that you haven't mmmm.
Speaker 2: I thought I had something earlier, but now it's gone.
It's eluded me.
Speaker 1: Well there you go. Well sir, thank you for joining
me on this ketchup episode. But like I said, I
want you there pick some Mandalorian because I trust told
you of course as just my thoughts, but I won
the the other side. It was a big train. So yeah,
we'll be back for you know. News will be like this,
but it's un tresto. You're sporadic and yeah, lots of
cast come throughout the weekend. I promise you. It'll love
be warn