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Speaker 1: As anyone who's watched or listening to the program knows,

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I become an absolute geek for healthcare. Always, always love

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the pursuit of science, and I'm just endlessly fascinated with

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the change in healthcare, going back to healthcare, Stop making medicine,

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go back to healthcare. I've been blessed to get to

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know a guy who is the managing director of the

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clinic I go to in Mexico, Renewed Healthcare, and I

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wanted to check in with Steve. We've had a ton

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of podcast family members head down there. I wanted to

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check with them. We're going to talk with some of them.

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You'll see some footage from some of them. And I

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wanted to get an update from him on the clinic.

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But also I just wanted to talk about what got

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into the head of a mathematician and entrepreneur to say, Okay,

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I'm going to leave what I'm doing and go start

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this business. We'll talk with Steve Anderson on The Todd

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Herman Show. With the help of God Almighty.

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Speaker 2: The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by

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big pharma technocrats, and it's everywhere now from the high

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mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald City Exile God

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her Man.

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Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made, and these

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are the times s which God has decided we shall live,

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and they are fascinating times, particularly if you love the

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actual application of scientific rigor. Steve Anderson's with us. Steve,

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so good to see you again, Welcome back to the

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Todd Herman Show.

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Speaker 3: God, great to be with you.

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Speaker 1: As always wanted to ask you. I had an opportunity

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to meet with you, and we're gonna have some of

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these doctors on laters. John Figler, as a legendary hematologist,

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been on every humatology board that matters. Richard Jacobe, author

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of Sugar Crush, got to meet with those guys. You

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and I talked in the lobby with them for a

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couple of hours, and we all agreed the American medical

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system is broken anyways. But you saw this as an entrepreneur,

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So what did you see as an entrepreneur but also

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as a mathematician and investor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know a lot of your listeners

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probably know that about twelve years ago I got diagnosed

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with an awful degenerative disease that had found itself to

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my lumbar area, and I was lucky enough to get

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into a FDA approved stem cell trial in the United States.

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met with the surgeon who had done the procedure, which

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today we would consider to be incredibly old technology. But

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he said, you know, next time, because there is the

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next time for me. I'm just in remission and there'll

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be an X time. And when that next time happens,

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he said, let's do this in my office in Dubai.

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And I questioned him about it over you know, about

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an hour recefter and talked with each other, and I

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found out that we could use donor cells outside the

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United States, but not inside the United States. And that

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really really was difficult for me to understand because at

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that time I really thought that nobody outside the US

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and Canada knew anything about healthcare. Only the people inside

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the states, in the provinces in Canada knew anything about healthcare.

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And then how could that possibly be true? And that

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led me, honest, as you know, well, a journey that

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led me to longevity and to really see the real

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underbelly of the US healthcare system and how corrupt and unfortunately,

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how not very helpful it is to patients these days.

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Speaker 1: And it is, and there's so many causes when visiting

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with your friends and some of the people who now

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they're actually getting treatment. And that was huge to me

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that you got guys like doctor Figler going down to

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get treatment and people like Richard Jacobe down there. And

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I mean, these people know what they're doing with bodies.

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They're pretty renowned physicians. There's a lot we've done to

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beat our bodies up. I want to talk about that inflammation.

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Some of the things they talked about were sugar and

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the effects sugar have baking you from the inside out

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and such an education. Talk to me about the math,

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and this is what I mean is you guys have

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had to do this out of a separate country, Mexico,

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and you've do it in a very nice place, port

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of Arta. But mathematically you're talking about infrastructure and movement

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of people down there and investing in things like making

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your own oxygen and having this huge hyperbaric chamber. And

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yet you don't go out and charge people through the

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roof for this. I mean, the treatments you'd get there

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are comparable to not even comparable to they're less that

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you would pay for a year of some drugs less

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than you'd pay for half a year or some drugs.

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what did you see as a mathematician?

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forced right, right, you couldn't do it inside the so

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looked at you know, all kinds of jurisdictions. Mexico had

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some good regulatory infrastructure in place that we thought would

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be would be great. Again, we're we're running towards that

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regulatory infrastructure. We want the regulators watching us and looking

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at us. We're not doing anything anybody can't watch, so

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we're not running from them in any way. And Mexico

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to get treated, you know, we're a two hour flight

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from Phoenix. There's forty eight non stops a day from

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North America to porta Orta, and it's beautiful and we

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location you know, people can come down, we get treated,

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and they can enjoy you know, a beach vacation as

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as they go along. So but you're right, it's it's uh,

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it's it is difficult. You know, we're not asking people

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to jump in their car and drive an hour across

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town and be treated and then drive back to their home.

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some cases, get on a plane, come see us, and

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really invest in their health versus you know what they've

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been doing. Right, We all traded our to generate wealth.

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to make that trade back the other way as we

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get older, and so we're just trying to help accommodate that.

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Speaker 1: Yep, well said. And we'll continue to chat with this

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a second. You gave me some discussion. I know we

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can't use names, but a patient you saw that had

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a catastrophic thing happened. There's those the patients you've met

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that are family members of this podcast. I want to

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go through and talk about some of these successes you've

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seen because you get giddy, dude. I've been to dinner

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with you and a bunch of times on your check,

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and I said, next time I'm buying, So of course

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I'm not. I'm not coming down for a little while. No,

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next time I'm buying. But I've seen you get giddies

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you talk about these things, so I want to get

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some updates from you in this Our bodies are our

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container for the Holy Spirit. I mean, if we are

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those who've given our lives to Christ, and our bodies

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contain the Kingdom of Heaven, that is a phenomenal, phenomenal thing.

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If you think about it. You are walking around with

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the peace of Heaven inside you, if you've given your

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life to the Lord Jesus. It's for this reason that

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we are encouraged to keep the temple as pure as possible.

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And look, I'm not sitting here telling you that I'm missed. Good,

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good guy in this thing. I try my best, particularly

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on the topic of physical health. But I can tell

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you something. This morning, as I was going through my

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protocol to get ready to come here, I realized me

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I spend a lot of time on the flesh, so

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I probably leaned over into the other arena. But if

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you are ignoring the flesh, particularly if you are having

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tremendous pain, things like neuropathy that's not just numbness and tingling,

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that can get into pain where you can't sleep, you

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can't stand. You probably had doctors say here's your choice

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a radical surgery where we cut into your spinal cord

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and do some scraping of some things, or here's some

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pills to numb it. Same thing with carpal tunnel like

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syndromes where you can't hold anything anymore. You can get

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that in your ankles you can't stand anymore. Or perhaps

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you're head into surgery already, or you're recovering some surgery.

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I can tell you something by experience. The ethically gathered

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stem cells at renew dot Healthcare will accelerate your recovery

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from surgery in my case, probably by four hundred percent,

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and I can detail that it can keep you out

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of surgery you may not need the surgery. When I

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say ethically gathered stem cells, it's not just because they

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come only from umbilical cords and placentas absolutely nothing to

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do with abortion. It's because renew is a fully ethical company.

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They pay for the entire birthing process of all the

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mothers from whom they get these stem cells. Even if

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they reject the stem cells themselves because they only accept

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the best stem cells, and they track the results of

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the birth to make sure mother and baby are healthy.

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Then they culture the stem cells. So it's not just

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sixty thousand they'd put in my shoulder like my surgeon

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did on my shoulder surgeries. How about forty two million.

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Those stem cells rebuild anything muscle, tendon, cartilage, and they

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instantly fight inflammation. Stop where you're at prior to surgery,

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prior to more pills. Good to renew dot healthcare, that's

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r E n U E dot healthcare, and ask them

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if they can help you. They'll tell you if they

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can or they can't. You and I were visiting about

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a case. It's sort of an edge case for you.

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who had a really bad thing happened to her, and effectively,

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you guys stepped in because the US healthcare system wouldn't

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step in, couldn't wouldn't do what was necessary. Can you

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talk a little about this lady who got slammed by a.

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Speaker 3: Car novel case. We became aware of it about a

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week and a half ago. When she actually is a

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girlfriend of a friend of mine that I hadn't seen

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for several months, and fifty five year old female was

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crossing an intersection early in the morning car blue of

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red light and ran her down at fifty miles an hour.

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marks broke seventeen bones, had a tv I or traumatic

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brain injury. Laid in the median for about thirty minutes.

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truck and got out and went over to the media

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and held her for about twenty minutes till the EMS arrived.

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and try to find somebody to help her figure out

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what was happening. Lots of imaging done, nobody really could

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figure it out. She continued from a cognitive perspective to

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really slide in a real negative way. And so when

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including a really top flight neurologist. Doctor Gais is really

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did three MRIs and he said, this is not complicated.

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he said, hey, we got we got to go in

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losing her sight, lots of really negative things happening, losing

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kind of spatial awareness as to where she is. And

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morning or no, I'm sorry, it would have been a

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be the r three hours. At eight hours and twenty minutes,

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he texted me and said that they just finished. So

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it was a very difficult case just based on architectural

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strung sure of her, but plugged the holes. She spent

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one night in the hospital. She came back to her

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hotel on Saturday afternoon. I'm really pleased, Yeah, that she's

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only by God's grace is she She is recovering and

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the headaches have gone away. That we're debilitating and the

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cognitive gap is closing, she started to get some spatial

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awareness back and so really exciting stuff to be able

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to help her. And then we'll be there, of course

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to support her recovery as she goes home on Wednesday

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back to the US, and then she'll be back a

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nonprofit board, we have people show up who no other

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doctor will listen, and they'll say things, for instance, after

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I got the COVID injections and then the hands go

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get people coming in and saying, I cannot feel my

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right hand. I cannot, but there's nothing wrong with you.

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There's nothing wrong, and they don't want to dig into this.

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In this case, this lady had something catastrophic happen. You

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guys have people coming down there who are being told

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drugs surgery in Richard Jacoby, this guy we'll talk to

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eventually from wrote the book Sugar Crush. Brilliant man. He

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has tracked inflammation from the body coming from this huge

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amount of sugar about eighty pounds. I think them afagure.

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American needs refined sugar. Let's just refined sugar. It doesn't

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count incidental sugars. They're being told, you know what, we've

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got to scrape your tendons. And he used to do

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that as a surgeon, right helping people. He was trained

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to do this. You guys are attacking things that in

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America either doctors won't touch or they will go and

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say the only option is to open up your arms

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scrape attendant. So, like even neuropathy, these diseases that are

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annoying to some people but debilitating to others. Talk about

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the difference in approach that you have with the stem

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cells versus this scraping the way of tendons for things

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like carpal ton or neuropathy. And this is the subtext

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of the question, Steve, is this stuff not a lot

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up here because there's so much money made scraping tendons

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versus what you guys do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really, you've got to go back to the basis

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of the healthcare system and you know, like everything else

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is follow the money, right. So the system is, unfortunately,

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is architected in the US for these physicians based on

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the way that the financial model works, have to see

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a lot of patients. The problem with that is that

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these difficult cases get missed, get dropped, don't get get

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the full inspection that they should. If you take this

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fifty five year old woman with the traumatic brain injury,

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nobody slowed down the long enough to really understand the case,

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to figure out what the problem really was, even though

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they had the same images that we had. Nobody ever,

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you know, said hey, I need to send this to

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an interventional neurologist who can take a quick look at

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these images with me, with our neurologists and say, hey,

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what are you thinking here? They just they don't they

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don't talk to each other. Everybody's in a silo in

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the United States, and the financial model is just unfortunately.

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that's the part that shocking is even now patients know that.

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I mean, my gosh, if even when I have to

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enter the US healthcare system, which I do, I'm having

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an issue with my kidney and and so I'm you know,

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I've lived in Arizona and in Portabayanta, and so I'm

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trying to get with us doctors as well as the

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doctors that we have in Mexico. And even I'm on

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the inside of this system, I understand outwork, and I

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am having a difficult time accessing and getting somebody to

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pay attention long enough to help me. So I think

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if you go back, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You're a man with resources, and this is

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this speaks to the brokenness of the model. I am

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headed down to Sealfit, you know this. And when I

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get down there, I'm gonna be around a group of

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guys and we're going to be in a team. And

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if God willing, I make it through that first twelve hours,

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or rather when I do, that's my mindset. We're going

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to spend forty eight, no fifty hours together, constantly exercising,

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constantly moving, and I'm going to come back with a

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garbage bag full of clothes. This is gonna be the

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stinkiest worst clothes that have ever existed. And people sometimes

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burn their clothes after seal fit. I'm not doing that. Man,

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I'm going to keep this stuff forever. After I thrive

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in this and get to hear Mark Devine hopefully, Coach

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Devine say you are secure and celebrate with these guys

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and go eat ten thousand calories since we're going to

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burn a thousand calories an hour. I'm going to take

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that garbage bag and I'm going to bring in here

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and I will show you my sealfit clothes so you

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can see what they look like. And of course it's

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going to stink to high heaven in hair, except it won't.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm going to turn off the Eden Pure

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let that stuff marinate overnight so when we come in

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we can absolutely smell it. And then we'll turn on

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the Eden Pure oxy Leaf two and see how quickly

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it destroys the scent. It does that by producing ozone

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in the air. Those ozone molecules ower three molecules bond

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with the bad smell, in this case, the unspeakable smell

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of fifty hours of exercise and mud and sweat, et cetera. Blood,

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and we'll see how quickly it all dissipates. Because when

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it bonds to the molecules that produce the bad smell.

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You're a man with resources. You're in not an insider,

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but you know the system so well. And you were

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saying you go back to being of the model. You

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follow the money, this model of stacking these patients up,

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seeing as many as possible that can't possibly be sustainable.

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So then they start limiting the amount of time they

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spend with people so they do not get to the

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core of the issue. Where what I've seen with you

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guys is you are so careful with the cat scans

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before you go get stem cells to make sure there's

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no cancer growth. Nothing. Cancer is going to cost you

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the amount of time you spend with patients. I mean

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that model, that math, and you still are spending less

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than a year of certain meds. That blows my mind, Steve,

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that you can do that and get those results.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you taken in the case that you presented,

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which is an neuropathy case? Right? I mean there's several

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reasons for a neuropathy, right, I mean that's the first

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thing that we should say. Not every neuropathy is the same,

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but let's just take out just a standard case. You know,

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you're talking about roughly forty eight one hundred to five

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thousand dollars to address that issue. And neuropathy is one

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of those what we would call high efficacy treatments, meaning

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that I know for a lot of listeners that are

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out there, I know I hear it every day from patients.

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We treat a lot of neuropathy. You know, when you

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get in bed, you take those covers across your toes

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and it feels like somebody's jam on a knife in

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your foot.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I know, it seems daunting, like there's never going to

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be a fix to this. The drugs aren't working, the

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therapies aren't working. But I'm telling you there's relief out there.

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We see it every day with patients, and you can

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given the right understanding of how you got it, how

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it sustained itself, and how it presents itself. It's a

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relatively easy one of the what we would call low

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hanging fruit opportunities for people to feel better.

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Speaker 1: And the low hanging fruit opportunity I want to talk

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about this is this role of inflammation. This was what

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blew my mind is hearing John Figler, who comes at

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this as a hematologist. He's a blood doctor. He sees everything,

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blood goes everywhere. In the nineteen seventies, I think he

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was involved in the first ever stem cells transplant. He

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comes at this from a h hematology direction. The inner

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workings of the body the most key thing. I mean,

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there's a reason that we are washed in the blood

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of Christ. Blood is life. Then you have a pediatrist,

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and that's misunderstanding. People say a foot doctor. Oh yeah.

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Also a guy who's one of the most specialized in

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advanced nerve surgeons in the country. When I was down

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to Steve's clinic in Mexico, had a conversation with two

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doctors down there, and doctor Figler and I were talking

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before and after his treatment, and doctor Jacoby and I

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got to talk on the van and the way over.

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In fact, so did doctor Figler and I in separate rides.

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I had breakfast with Richard and talked about sugar. This

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is his expertise. He's written a book called Sugar Crush.

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He makes the case that with the eighty to eighty

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five pounds of refined sugar that Americans eat every year,

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with the help of our government, by the way in

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the food pyramid, we are baking our bodies from the

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inside out and in fact causing a lot of these

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diseases with their tendons. Doctor Figler talked about inflammation that

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he sees at a blood level causing all sorts of

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mayhem within our bodies. We all talked about the brokenness

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of the healthcare system.

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Speaker 3: Steve.

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Speaker 1: One of the first things I noticed about the treatments

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I got from you guys, and this was nuts. It

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still blows my mind. I was down there, I think,

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nine days after my last surgery, and I still hurt.

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My arm still hurt. I said the sling. I got

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the stem cells in the hyperbaric chamber treatment. And in

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the morning I woke up and I was rolling over

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and I forgot which arm was operated on. So for

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just a second I had to stop in bed, go wait, wait, wait,

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don't push off with a surgery arm. And I had

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to wake up and go that's right, right arm, right

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arm because I had the left arm. Talk about the

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role of inflammation and how you see that help, and

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then let's bring into this some of the cases you've

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had with some of our podcast family members who've been

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down to see you and what you be able to

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do with them. And I know that we're going to

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run some some videos of these little later, but start

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start for someone that information that inflammation front with the

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stem cells, do there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure? So the the Wharton's jelly derived so they're

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technically called day zero Wharton's jelly derived and Mazankamal stem

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cells are the stem cells that we use. They come

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from donors. They have been screened their their donors that

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have not been vaccinated. That's a requirement. And they have

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basically three properties that are associated with them, really four,

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but the top three are they're in your body to

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fight inflammation. That's why they're there.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: Remember when you were a kid and you fell down

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and scraped your arm. Two three days later, it was

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it was gone, you know, didn't it look like nothing? Happened.

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That was that that was taking down the inflammation. And

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then the second the property is this kind of regenitive

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nature of it. So they assign themselves when they go

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to the site of whatever that injury is. In your

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particular case with your shoulder surgery, that they went and

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they started to take that inflammation down that was caused

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by the disruption or the manual fix in your shoulder

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where they're physically cutting and splicing together you know, the

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areas of your shoulder that were injured, and so that's

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a huge red alarm. All the stem cells raised there.

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Obviously we strategically position them with our orthopedic surgeon to

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put them directly at the sight of the repair. First

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thing you did was take that inflammation down. Inflammation and

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pain our cohorts together. Right when you have inflammation, it hurt,

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and so that's why you saw kind of a reduction

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of the pain itself. And then over some period of

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time generally kind of two to six months, you start

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to see this regenitive nature of it where they go

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in and they start to really assign themselves is either

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cartilage cells or to sign themselves a soft tissue and

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really start to repair those areas where in your case

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they put the fix together. They went in and cemented

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that fixed together. The great news is that the hyperbear

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chamber is great and speeding up recovery. We do a

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lot of what you did, which is called it's post

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surgery recovery protocols, where people come down. We just had

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another big podcaster like you, Nico Verazza. It used to

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be a professional ultra marathon or so they ground one

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hundred miles in a race in the desert or whatever

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that is. And so same thing had his fifth surgery

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to Deadman clinic, came down about the same roughly same

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timeframe as you. We again support it by injecting it

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at the same time, and he's doing incredibly well, just

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like you did. Right. You add that hyperbaric oxygen to

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the which generates in your system and then we do

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that with the stem cells and you're off and running.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the recovery has been and I've talked to

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this in the program with the labor but it's been

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it's worlds apart. It was a little bit of a

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different injury. My left shoulder completely blew up. This was

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a surgery choice. I just want to be fair there.

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But I had my push ups back in twelve weeks.

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I had my pull ups back in twelve weeks. I

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didn't get push ups or pull ups for thirty two

478
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to thirty six weeks with the other with the other arm,

479
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just utterly, utterly, side by side, insane. And I want

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you to address quick Steve. We're going to show some

481
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videos here. These are some patient testimonials. These are from

482
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renew these are Healthcare. These people are podcast family members,

483
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and we're going to show these now neonimal run days,

484
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and I want you to see some of the work

485
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they've done. And then we come back. Steve, I want

486
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to talk about what you would do if you wanted

487
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to fix the US healthcare system. And you you're an American,

488
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I mean you live here, you had the problems trying

489
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to access it. What you would do for that. Take

490
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a look at some of the work that he's done

491
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with some of our podcast family members.

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Speaker 4: He brought he brought it up.

493
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Speaker 5: Well, my name is Brent Wyman, and we came down.

494
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We found out about this place. This from a person

495
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that I listened to on podcast, Todd Herman.

496
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Speaker 3: That's it. That's the like, No, that's everything. That's it.

497
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That's it. Wait, what did I just get? I just

498
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got the PRP I need to result. I was it.

499
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W that's the census too, the whole thing. Well, look

500
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this in some video. That's it.

501
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Speaker 5: And he talks about it a lot. And I know

502
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that he had been down here recently and he'd had

503
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some work done on his shoulder and ankle, and he

504
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raved about the results and how much faster he healed

505
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than a you know, traditional medicine in the US, and

506
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I have arthritis and colitis, and I was looking for

507
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something and I tried a lot of medications and had

508
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problems with the side effects of those medications. So we thought,

509
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you know, we would give this an opportunity to see

510
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you know, if you know, I'll work for us, and

511
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you know, the care it's been spectacular.

512
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Speaker 3: I mean from from the minute we.

513
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Speaker 5: Got picked up at the airport and everywhere in between,

514
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it's been first class all the way.

515
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've had a really good experience. It's been great,

516
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and you know it's just you know, you can come

517
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down and relax and take a little vacation while you're

518
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doing it, and you know, there's nothing more important than

519
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:44,559
your health and us being fifty five. You know, if

520
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we're doing that now, it's it's going to improve our

521
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later age, you know. So that was kind of like

522
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we could spend it on you know, toys or things,

523
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but what a better way than to spend it on

524
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your health.

525
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Speaker 1: Incredible? Incredible And the fact that people will respond to

526
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me word of mouth sending people to Mexico. I take

527
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that as a huge voticonfidence, Steve. It's a mind blower

528
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that people do that. I'm so thankful for that. We

529
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talked with the doctors, Jacoby and Fiegler. We talked about

530
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some of the fixes, and you know what, they've made

531
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their own fixes. Both these guys now operate outside the

532
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insurance roll up. They now do direct patient care. What

533
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do you think is the key to correcting healthcare in America?

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's relatively simple. You know, you've got

535
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to fix the financial market, you know, the way in

536
00:28:54,519 --> 00:29:00,279
which the model is built. This you know, this idea

537
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that we're kind of pushing toward a single payer, which

538
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we're hearing from from some folks and running for office

539
00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:12,039
is kind of the absolute worst case scenario, right if

540
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,960
private insurance goes away, you know, you go the way

541
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of Canada. For instance, about forty percent of the patients

542
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that we treat come from Canada, primarily because in a

543
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single pair system like they have, they can't get access.

544
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It might take them to see a neurologist, could take

545
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six or eight months, it could take four months to

546
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get an MRI. It's really a difficult structure. And so

547
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for us, they can come down and they're absolutely shocked.

548
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Time they'll call and say, hey, how long will it

549
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take us to get in? You know, do I need

550
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a plan? You know, can I get an image and

551
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you know I get an MRI or CT? And I said, well,

552
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you could come tomorrow. We could get you a CEEC

553
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tomorrow or an MRI tomorrow. And they're absolutely blown away

554
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by this. They can't imagine how that's even physically possible,

555
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yeah to do that. So I think that the fix

556
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is is that you've got to figure out how to

557
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get physicians to stop focusing on treating symptoms and start

558
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focusing on treating the core issue. Now, functional medicine physicians

559
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have really made a lot of progress in that area.

560
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But again, you know, functional medicine is one of those

561
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things that falls outside of this kind of big pharma funded.

562
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You know, big pharma funds, medical schools, the FDA, the

563
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nih you know, it's as you well know, it's a

564
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very very corrupt system where you you know, you would

565
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say to yourself, there's conflicts of interest everywhere you look

566
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in the system.

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Speaker 6: You know, think about they hold what eight, as I understand,

568
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eight out of ten of the top media spots on

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nightly TV selling a product on TV that you can't

570
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directly buy from them on TV you have to go

571
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through an intermediary or a physician.

572
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Speaker 3: I mean that is a clear attempt to control the

573
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narrative of big media. I mean, you know, I can't

574
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write bad things about people that pay my bills, and

575
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I really think that's a conflict of conflict of interest.

576
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There are several along the chain, but I don't think

577
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until the amount of money the big pharma spends to

578
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fund medical schools, where if you look at the number

579
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of courses that a physician has about how to write

580
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prescriptions and how to versus nutritional classes, where you can

581
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take this kind of big agriculture out of the system.

582
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Speaker 1: And here's my thing, Steve, it is about the money,

583
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and here's where the money needs to go. It needs

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to go back into the hands of people. It matters

585
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to me that on this program we made a promise

586
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on day one that we would take inventory and we

587
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would always leave slots open for companies like Alan Soaps.

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Alan Soaps in all in all reality couldn't afford to

589
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be on our national radio programs. They couldn't afford to

590
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be here. We are honored to work with them because

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Speaker 2: You know this.

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Speaker 1: He's thirteen. He's been through about eighteen operations. He's so

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high up on the autism spectrum that he's effectively nonverbal.

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It doesn't mean he's not a brilliant kid. When we

599
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started this together almost three years ago, Alan was the

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sole employee. His dad John runs the company. Allan's a

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chief soap officer. Because of you purchasing soap, Ian now

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that to you. All lives do matter. So I'm a big,

610
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big fan of this model of it's not single payer.

611
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It is tax write offs for using our money wisely.

612
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In regard to healthcare, there's an HSA. You know, you

613
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have the health spending accounts again, all of this stuff,

614
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But what about just a tax write off for core

615
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healthcare needs, doctor visits, for welcare, child visits, fixing broken bones,

616
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,279
core needs like this, graduating up into when you have

617
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a real catastrophe, being able to choose a doctor based

618
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upon the fact you know you're going to get your

619
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money back on taxes. We're already giving money to people

620
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who don't have enough income for this. That's not going

621
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to stop Medicare, Medicaid that's there. I would also take

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that money and apportion to the individual because this is

623
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the studies that I've seen when you know, you're paying

624
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the bill, and the doctor comes into the and you're

625
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,559
in the hospital saying, and they bring you aspirin, You're

626
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:12,880
gonna say, wait a minute, how much does the hospital

627
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aspirin cost? And this is where the costs are so interesting. Oh,

628
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,719
the hospital aspirin, it's ten dollars per pill. Nope, I

629
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brought my own. I'll use my own. Thanks. The studies

630
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,519
show that when people are controlling their own money, they

631
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:28,639
ask questions like, wait a minute, am I paying for

632
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,440
that sock you're putting on me? Truly, when I had

633
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,480
my last surgery, they were putting a nylon on my arm.

634
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,159
I said, wait a minute, am I paying for that nylon?

635
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,960
I'll bring one next time. So if we were to

636
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do that, I think that would be a monumental shift.

637
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And if there's an insurance model, let them compete, but

638
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,039
let the individual people actually shop for caret last thing

639
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,159
is this, in direct patient care models, they publish prices,

640
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,000
which is to be illegal. You couldn't publish the price

641
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,559
range of a surgery. Force them to do that. I think, Steve,

642
00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:58,920
those are the big economic changes that could change healthcare

643
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for the better in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. You know. So in the

645
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,079
US system, you know, insurance is very difficult to get.

646
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It's you know, it's expensive. And what I have found

647
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in my understanding because I'm a little bit on the inside,

648
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,320
I understand how the system works. I understand the difference

649
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between a hospital aspert and a regular aspirt. But if

650
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,039
you just pay cash, it is surprising how inexpensive so

651
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:33,159
many items. See. Yes, it's telling me because the first

652
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:34,760
thing I say is can I have your insurance card?

653
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,280
And even though I have insurance, I say no, No.

654
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,760
For this doctor's I want to pay cash, and it's

655
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,480
shocking how inexpensive it is in some cases to do that.

656
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,639
Or I want to get an MRI. Remember when MRIs

657
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:50,079
what fifteen one hundred and seventeen hundred dollars? I just

658
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,679
I just sent one somebody to get a lumbar MRI

659
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,440
here in Phoenix to a big provider, and it was

660
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two hundred and fifty dollars cash.

661
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Speaker 1: Right right, they find out your cash. I did the

662
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same thing for time's sake, when I was coming down

663
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to see you and I got an MRI, I needed

664
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to hurry it along and before I couldn't see you

665
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,719
couldn't help me with the left shoulder. You said come

666
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,159
down afterwards, but you couldn't help me prior. And so

667
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,119
when we were going through that, I needed to hurry

668
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:21,480
and get that done. And I went in and oh,

669
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we'll need insurance approval. I said, no, I'll pay cash

670
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and insurance. In Idaho it was nine hundred bucks. They

671
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,519
came back to me one hundred and fifty bucks and oh,

672
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if you're going to pay cash. If people understood this

673
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,559
more and understood that insurance is simply a big way

674
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,599
for big companies to make more money because they're all

675
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in on this, and I think things would change. I'm

676
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so blessed to have you as a partner and a friend,

677
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and I look forward to seeing you. I'm planning on

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coming down sometime in November to see you guys and

679
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hang out and get some more stuff done. And thank

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you for the testimonis. Thank you for by the way,

681
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Thank you for you do this with everybody. It's not

682
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because they're podcast family members, but thank thank you and

683
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,519
James and your whole team for spending time with human beings. Man,

684
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:05,599
that's a big deal that you guys do that. Thank

685
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:07,119
you for treating our podcast family member.

686
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Speaker 3: So well, yeah, I know, happy to do it. It's it's,

687
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as you rightly point out, it is a labor of love.

688
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It's you know, how do we help people get better

689
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with the higher quality of life, which is really important.

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Speaker 1: Yep, appreciate it. Thank you, Steve God, thank you for

691
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the miracle of stem cells. Thank you for people who

692
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will wisely steward the resources you've given them, including intelligence.

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This is the Todd Herman Shaw. Please go, be well,

694
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be strong, be kind, Please make every effort to walk

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in the light of Christ.