Speaker 1: As anyone who's watched or listening to the program knows,
I become an absolute geek for healthcare. Always, always love
the pursuit of science, and I'm just endlessly fascinated with
the change in healthcare, going back to healthcare, Stop making medicine,
go back to healthcare. I've been blessed to get to
know a guy who is the managing director of the
clinic I go to in Mexico, Renewed Healthcare, and I
wanted to check in with Steve. We've had a ton
of podcast family members head down there. I wanted to
check with them. We're going to talk with some of them.
You'll see some footage from some of them. And I
wanted to get an update from him on the clinic.
But also I just wanted to talk about what got
into the head of a mathematician and entrepreneur to say, Okay,
I'm going to leave what I'm doing and go start
this business. We'll talk with Steve Anderson on The Todd
Herman Show. With the help of God Almighty.
Speaker 2: The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by
big pharma technocrats, and it's everywhere now from the high
mountains of Free America. Here's the Emerald City Exile God
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Speaker 1: Today is a day the Lord has made, and these
are the times s which God has decided we shall live,
and they are fascinating times, particularly if you love the
actual application of scientific rigor. Steve Anderson's with us. Steve,
so good to see you again, Welcome back to the
Todd Herman Show.
Speaker 3: God, great to be with you.
Speaker 1: As always wanted to ask you. I had an opportunity
to meet with you, and we're gonna have some of
these doctors on laters. John Figler, as a legendary hematologist,
been on every humatology board that matters. Richard Jacobe, author
of Sugar Crush, got to meet with those guys. You
and I talked in the lobby with them for a
couple of hours, and we all agreed the American medical
system is broken anyways. But you saw this as an entrepreneur,
So what did you see as an entrepreneur but also
as a mathematician and investor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know a lot of your listeners
probably know that about twelve years ago I got diagnosed
with an awful degenerative disease that had found itself to
my lumbar area, and I was lucky enough to get
into a FDA approved stem cell trial in the United States.
And when I came out of the r and I
met with the surgeon who had done the procedure, which
today we would consider to be incredibly old technology. But
he said, you know, next time, because there is the
next time for me. I'm just in remission and there'll
be an X time. And when that next time happens,
he said, let's do this in my office in Dubai.
And I questioned him about it over you know, about
an hour recefter and talked with each other, and I
found out that we could use donor cells outside the
United States, but not inside the United States. And that
really really was difficult for me to understand because at
that time I really thought that nobody outside the US
and Canada knew anything about healthcare. Only the people inside
the states, in the provinces in Canada knew anything about healthcare.
And then how could that possibly be true? And that
led me, honest, as you know, well, a journey that
led me to longevity and to really see the real
underbelly of the US healthcare system and how corrupt and unfortunately,
how not very helpful it is to patients these days.
Speaker 1: And it is, and there's so many causes when visiting
with your friends and some of the people who now
they're actually getting treatment. And that was huge to me
that you got guys like doctor Figler going down to
get treatment and people like Richard Jacobe down there. And
I mean, these people know what they're doing with bodies.
They're pretty renowned physicians. There's a lot we've done to
beat our bodies up. I want to talk about that inflammation.
Some of the things they talked about were sugar and
the effects sugar have baking you from the inside out
and such an education. Talk to me about the math,
and this is what I mean is you guys have
had to do this out of a separate country, Mexico,
and you've do it in a very nice place, port
of Arta. But mathematically you're talking about infrastructure and movement
of people down there and investing in things like making
your own oxygen and having this huge hyperbaric chamber. And
yet you don't go out and charge people through the
roof for this. I mean, the treatments you'd get there
are comparable to not even comparable to they're less that
you would pay for a year of some drugs less
than you'd pay for half a year or some drugs.
So the math works in your favor, I guess. But
what did you see as a mathematician?
Speaker 3: Well, I think well, first of all, it was a
forced right, right, you couldn't do it inside the so
we had we had to pick a jurisdiction. We looked
at a bunch the Bahamas, you know, Panama, Columbia, we
looked at you know, all kinds of jurisdictions. Mexico had
some good regulatory infrastructure in place that we thought would
be would be great. Again, we're we're running towards that
regulatory infrastructure. We want the regulators watching us and looking
at us. We're not doing anything anybody can't watch, so
we're not running from them in any way. And Mexico
had some good regulatory environment and it was pretty close.
I mean, if you're gonna have to leave the States
to get treated, you know, we're a two hour flight
from Phoenix. There's forty eight non stops a day from
North America to porta Orta, and it's beautiful and we
really latched onto as you know, this idea of a
location you know, people can come down, we get treated,
and they can enjoy you know, a beach vacation as
as they go along. So but you're right, it's it's uh,
it's it is difficult. You know, we're not asking people
to jump in their car and drive an hour across
town and be treated and then drive back to their home.
You know, we're asking them to get a passports in
some cases, get on a plane, come see us, and
really invest in their health versus you know what they've
been doing. Right, We all traded our to generate wealth.
Once we finally do get a little wealth, we're willing
to make that trade back the other way as we
get older, and so we're just trying to help accommodate that.
Speaker 1: Yep, well said. And we'll continue to chat with this
a second. You gave me some discussion. I know we
can't use names, but a patient you saw that had
a catastrophic thing happened. There's those the patients you've met
that are family members of this podcast. I want to
go through and talk about some of these successes you've
seen because you get giddy, dude. I've been to dinner
with you and a bunch of times on your check,
and I said, next time I'm buying, So of course
I'm not. I'm not coming down for a little while. No,
next time I'm buying. But I've seen you get giddies
you talk about these things, so I want to get
some updates from you in this Our bodies are our
container for the Holy Spirit. I mean, if we are
those who've given our lives to Christ, and our bodies
contain the Kingdom of Heaven, that is a phenomenal, phenomenal thing.
If you think about it. You are walking around with
the peace of Heaven inside you, if you've given your
life to the Lord Jesus. It's for this reason that
we are encouraged to keep the temple as pure as possible.
And look, I'm not sitting here telling you that I'm missed. Good,
good guy in this thing. I try my best, particularly
on the topic of physical health. But I can tell
you something. This morning, as I was going through my
protocol to get ready to come here, I realized me
I spend a lot of time on the flesh, so
I probably leaned over into the other arena. But if
you are ignoring the flesh, particularly if you are having
tremendous pain, things like neuropathy that's not just numbness and tingling,
that can get into pain where you can't sleep, you
can't stand. You probably had doctors say here's your choice
a radical surgery where we cut into your spinal cord
and do some scraping of some things, or here's some
pills to numb it. Same thing with carpal tunnel like
syndromes where you can't hold anything anymore. You can get
that in your ankles you can't stand anymore. Or perhaps
you're head into surgery already, or you're recovering some surgery.
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can or they can't. You and I were visiting about
a case. It's sort of an edge case for you.
It's not in your wheelhouse. But there was a woman
who had a really bad thing happened to her, and effectively,
you guys stepped in because the US healthcare system wouldn't
step in, couldn't wouldn't do what was necessary. Can you
talk a little about this lady who got slammed by a.
Speaker 3: Car novel case. We became aware of it about a
week and a half ago. When she actually is a
girlfriend of a friend of mine that I hadn't seen
for several months, and fifty five year old female was
crossing an intersection early in the morning car blue of
red light and ran her down at fifty miles an hour.
They estimate by the tracks of the of the skin
marks broke seventeen bones, had a tv I or traumatic
brain injury. Laid in the median for about thirty minutes.
Finally had a Mexican National stop and had a landscape
truck and got out and went over to the media
and held her for about twenty minutes till the EMS arrived.
It's an awful story, but has since that was in February,
really worked hard to get in the US healthcare system
and try to find somebody to help her figure out
what was happening. Lots of imaging done, nobody really could
figure it out. She continued from a cognitive perspective to
really slide in a real negative way. And so when
I became aware of it, I said, hey, you guys
got to come and we'll get you in front of specialist.
So in the first three days she saw six specialists,
including a really top flight neurologist. Doctor Gais is really
a skilled young man who's on our staff, and we
did three MRIs and he said, this is not complicated.
He said, she is leaking spinal fluid from right around
that L five S one area and then it was
included up near in the top of her circle. And
he said, hey, we got we got to go in
and we got to plug these holes. This pressure is
not going to come down in the brain and so
losing her sight, lots of really negative things happening, losing
kind of spatial awareness as to where she is. And
so we went in. Let's see, would have been Monday
morning or no, I'm sorry, it would have been a
Friday morning. We went in and she was supposed to
be the r three hours. At eight hours and twenty minutes,
he texted me and said that they just finished. So
it was a very difficult case just based on architectural
strung sure of her, but plugged the holes. She spent
one night in the hospital. She came back to her
hotel on Saturday afternoon. I'm really pleased, Yeah, that she's
only by God's grace is she She is recovering and
the headaches have gone away. That we're debilitating and the
cognitive gap is closing, she started to get some spatial
awareness back and so really exciting stuff to be able
to help her. And then we'll be there, of course
to support her recovery as she goes home on Wednesday
back to the US, and then she'll be back a
month later and be with us for about two or
three weeks as we help her.
Speaker 1: This is one of the issues here as there are
so many people who seek that help. I can't tell you.
In our little tiny clinic on which I'm on the
nonprofit board, we have people show up who no other
doctor will listen, and they'll say things, for instance, after
I got the COVID injections and then the hands go
well no, no, stop, wait, nope, nope, no, nothing happened.
You have forgot this injections. Nothing, nothing's wrong. Or you'll
get people coming in and saying, I cannot feel my
right hand. I cannot, but there's nothing wrong with you.
There's nothing wrong, and they don't want to dig into this.
In this case, this lady had something catastrophic happen. You
guys have people coming down there who are being told
drugs surgery in Richard Jacoby, this guy we'll talk to
eventually from wrote the book Sugar Crush. Brilliant man. He
has tracked inflammation from the body coming from this huge
amount of sugar about eighty pounds. I think them afagure.
American needs refined sugar. Let's just refined sugar. It doesn't
count incidental sugars. They're being told, you know what, we've
got to scrape your tendons. And he used to do
that as a surgeon, right helping people. He was trained
to do this. You guys are attacking things that in
America either doctors won't touch or they will go and
say the only option is to open up your arms
scrape attendant. So, like even neuropathy, these diseases that are
annoying to some people but debilitating to others. Talk about
the difference in approach that you have with the stem
cells versus this scraping the way of tendons for things
like carpal ton or neuropathy. And this is the subtext
of the question, Steve, is this stuff not a lot
up here because there's so much money made scraping tendons
versus what you guys do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, you've got to go back to the basis
of the healthcare system and you know, like everything else
is follow the money, right. So the system is, unfortunately,
is architected in the US for these physicians based on
the way that the financial model works, have to see
a lot of patients. The problem with that is that
these difficult cases get missed, get dropped, don't get get
the full inspection that they should. If you take this
fifty five year old woman with the traumatic brain injury,
nobody slowed down the long enough to really understand the case,
to figure out what the problem really was, even though
they had the same images that we had. Nobody ever,
you know, said hey, I need to send this to
an interventional neurologist who can take a quick look at
these images with me, with our neurologists and say, hey,
what are you thinking here? They just they don't they
don't talk to each other. Everybody's in a silo in
the United States, and the financial model is just unfortunately.
You know, in the US, the healthcare system just treat symptoms.
And we all know that, right, I mean, that's and
that's the part that shocking is even now patients know that.
I mean, my gosh, if even when I have to
enter the US healthcare system, which I do, I'm having
an issue with my kidney and and so I'm you know,
I've lived in Arizona and in Portabayanta, and so I'm
trying to get with us doctors as well as the
doctors that we have in Mexico. And even I'm on
the inside of this system, I understand outwork, and I
am having a difficult time accessing and getting somebody to
pay attention long enough to help me. So I think
if you go back, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You're a man with resources, and this is
this speaks to the brokenness of the model. I am
headed down to Sealfit, you know this. And when I
get down there, I'm gonna be around a group of
guys and we're going to be in a team. And
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constantly moving, and I'm going to come back with a
garbage bag full of clothes. This is gonna be the
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You're a man with resources. You're in not an insider,
but you know the system so well. And you were
saying you go back to being of the model. You
follow the money, this model of stacking these patients up,
seeing as many as possible that can't possibly be sustainable.
So then they start limiting the amount of time they
spend with people so they do not get to the
core of the issue. Where what I've seen with you
guys is you are so careful with the cat scans
before you go get stem cells to make sure there's
no cancer growth. Nothing. Cancer is going to cost you
the amount of time you spend with patients. I mean
that model, that math, and you still are spending less
than a year of certain meds. That blows my mind, Steve,
that you can do that and get those results.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have you taken in the case that you presented,
which is an neuropathy case? Right? I mean there's several
reasons for a neuropathy, right, I mean that's the first
thing that we should say. Not every neuropathy is the same,
but let's just take out just a standard case. You know,
you're talking about roughly forty eight one hundred to five
thousand dollars to address that issue. And neuropathy is one
of those what we would call high efficacy treatments, meaning
that I know for a lot of listeners that are
out there, I know I hear it every day from patients.
We treat a lot of neuropathy. You know, when you
get in bed, you take those covers across your toes
and it feels like somebody's jam on a knife in
your foot.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: I know, it seems daunting, like there's never going to
be a fix to this. The drugs aren't working, the
therapies aren't working. But I'm telling you there's relief out there.
We see it every day with patients, and you can
given the right understanding of how you got it, how
it sustained itself, and how it presents itself. It's a
relatively easy one of the what we would call low
hanging fruit opportunities for people to feel better.
Speaker 1: And the low hanging fruit opportunity I want to talk
about this is this role of inflammation. This was what
blew my mind is hearing John Figler, who comes at
this as a hematologist. He's a blood doctor. He sees everything,
blood goes everywhere. In the nineteen seventies, I think he
was involved in the first ever stem cells transplant. He
comes at this from a h hematology direction. The inner
workings of the body the most key thing. I mean,
there's a reason that we are washed in the blood
of Christ. Blood is life. Then you have a pediatrist,
and that's misunderstanding. People say a foot doctor. Oh yeah.
Also a guy who's one of the most specialized in
advanced nerve surgeons in the country. When I was down
to Steve's clinic in Mexico, had a conversation with two
doctors down there, and doctor Figler and I were talking
before and after his treatment, and doctor Jacoby and I
got to talk on the van and the way over.
In fact, so did doctor Figler and I in separate rides.
I had breakfast with Richard and talked about sugar. This
is his expertise. He's written a book called Sugar Crush.
He makes the case that with the eighty to eighty
five pounds of refined sugar that Americans eat every year,
with the help of our government, by the way in
the food pyramid, we are baking our bodies from the
inside out and in fact causing a lot of these
diseases with their tendons. Doctor Figler talked about inflammation that
he sees at a blood level causing all sorts of
mayhem within our bodies. We all talked about the brokenness
of the healthcare system.
Speaker 3: Steve.
Speaker 1: One of the first things I noticed about the treatments
I got from you guys, and this was nuts. It
still blows my mind. I was down there, I think,
nine days after my last surgery, and I still hurt.
My arm still hurt. I said the sling. I got
the stem cells in the hyperbaric chamber treatment. And in
the morning I woke up and I was rolling over
and I forgot which arm was operated on. So for
just a second I had to stop in bed, go wait, wait, wait,
don't push off with a surgery arm. And I had
to wake up and go that's right, right arm, right
arm because I had the left arm. Talk about the
role of inflammation and how you see that help, and
then let's bring into this some of the cases you've
had with some of our podcast family members who've been
down to see you and what you be able to
do with them. And I know that we're going to
run some some videos of these little later, but start
start for someone that information that inflammation front with the
stem cells, do there?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure? So the the Wharton's jelly derived so they're
technically called day zero Wharton's jelly derived and Mazankamal stem
cells are the stem cells that we use. They come
from donors. They have been screened their their donors that
have not been vaccinated. That's a requirement. And they have
basically three properties that are associated with them, really four,
but the top three are they're in your body to
fight inflammation. That's why they're there.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Remember when you were a kid and you fell down
and scraped your arm. Two three days later, it was
it was gone, you know, didn't it look like nothing? Happened.
That was that that was taking down the inflammation. And
then the second the property is this kind of regenitive
nature of it. So they assign themselves when they go
to the site of whatever that injury is. In your
particular case with your shoulder surgery, that they went and
they started to take that inflammation down that was caused
by the disruption or the manual fix in your shoulder
where they're physically cutting and splicing together you know, the
areas of your shoulder that were injured, and so that's
a huge red alarm. All the stem cells raised there.
Obviously we strategically position them with our orthopedic surgeon to
put them directly at the sight of the repair. First
thing you did was take that inflammation down. Inflammation and
pain our cohorts together. Right when you have inflammation, it hurt,
and so that's why you saw kind of a reduction
of the pain itself. And then over some period of
time generally kind of two to six months, you start
to see this regenitive nature of it where they go
in and they start to really assign themselves is either
cartilage cells or to sign themselves a soft tissue and
really start to repair those areas where in your case
they put the fix together. They went in and cemented
that fixed together. The great news is that the hyperbear
chamber is great and speeding up recovery. We do a
lot of what you did, which is called it's post
surgery recovery protocols, where people come down. We just had
another big podcaster like you, Nico Verazza. It used to
be a professional ultra marathon or so they ground one
hundred miles in a race in the desert or whatever
that is. And so same thing had his fifth surgery
to Deadman clinic, came down about the same roughly same
timeframe as you. We again support it by injecting it
at the same time, and he's doing incredibly well, just
like you did. Right. You add that hyperbaric oxygen to
the which generates in your system and then we do
that with the stem cells and you're off and running.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the recovery has been and I've talked to
this in the program with the labor but it's been
it's worlds apart. It was a little bit of a
different injury. My left shoulder completely blew up. This was
a surgery choice. I just want to be fair there.
But I had my push ups back in twelve weeks.
I had my pull ups back in twelve weeks. I
didn't get push ups or pull ups for thirty two
to thirty six weeks with the other with the other arm,
just utterly, utterly, side by side, insane. And I want
you to address quick Steve. We're going to show some
videos here. These are some patient testimonials. These are from
renew these are Healthcare. These people are podcast family members,
and we're going to show these now neonimal run days,
and I want you to see some of the work
they've done. And then we come back. Steve, I want
to talk about what you would do if you wanted
to fix the US healthcare system. And you you're an American,
I mean you live here, you had the problems trying
to access it. What you would do for that. Take
a look at some of the work that he's done
with some of our podcast family members.
Speaker 4: He brought he brought it up.
Speaker 5: Well, my name is Brent Wyman, and we came down.
We found out about this place. This from a person
that I listened to on podcast, Todd Herman.
Speaker 3: That's it. That's the like, No, that's everything. That's it.
That's it. Wait, what did I just get? I just
got the PRP I need to result. I was it.
W that's the census too, the whole thing. Well, look
this in some video. That's it.
Speaker 5: And he talks about it a lot. And I know
that he had been down here recently and he'd had
some work done on his shoulder and ankle, and he
raved about the results and how much faster he healed
than a you know, traditional medicine in the US, and
I have arthritis and colitis, and I was looking for
something and I tried a lot of medications and had
problems with the side effects of those medications. So we thought,
you know, we would give this an opportunity to see
you know, if you know, I'll work for us, and
you know, the care it's been spectacular.
Speaker 3: I mean from from the minute we.
Speaker 5: Got picked up at the airport and everywhere in between,
it's been first class all the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've had a really good experience. It's been great,
and you know it's just you know, you can come
down and relax and take a little vacation while you're
doing it, and you know, there's nothing more important than
your health and us being fifty five. You know, if
we're doing that now, it's it's going to improve our
later age, you know. So that was kind of like
we could spend it on you know, toys or things,
but what a better way than to spend it on
your health.
Speaker 1: Incredible? Incredible And the fact that people will respond to
me word of mouth sending people to Mexico. I take
that as a huge voticonfidence, Steve. It's a mind blower
that people do that. I'm so thankful for that. We
talked with the doctors, Jacoby and Fiegler. We talked about
some of the fixes, and you know what, they've made
their own fixes. Both these guys now operate outside the
insurance roll up. They now do direct patient care. What
do you think is the key to correcting healthcare in America?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's relatively simple. You know, you've got
to fix the financial market, you know, the way in
which the model is built. This you know, this idea
that we're kind of pushing toward a single payer, which
we're hearing from from some folks and running for office
is kind of the absolute worst case scenario, right if
private insurance goes away, you know, you go the way
of Canada. For instance, about forty percent of the patients
that we treat come from Canada, primarily because in a
single pair system like they have, they can't get access.
It might take them to see a neurologist, could take
six or eight months, it could take four months to
get an MRI. It's really a difficult structure. And so
for us, they can come down and they're absolutely shocked.
Time they'll call and say, hey, how long will it
take us to get in? You know, do I need
a plan? You know, can I get an image and
you know I get an MRI or CT? And I said, well,
you could come tomorrow. We could get you a CEEC
tomorrow or an MRI tomorrow. And they're absolutely blown away
by this. They can't imagine how that's even physically possible,
yeah to do that. So I think that the fix
is is that you've got to figure out how to
get physicians to stop focusing on treating symptoms and start
focusing on treating the core issue. Now, functional medicine physicians
have really made a lot of progress in that area.
But again, you know, functional medicine is one of those
things that falls outside of this kind of big pharma funded.
You know, big pharma funds, medical schools, the FDA, the
nih you know, it's as you well know, it's a
very very corrupt system where you you know, you would
say to yourself, there's conflicts of interest everywhere you look
in the system.
Speaker 6: You know, think about they hold what eight, as I understand,
eight out of ten of the top media spots on
nightly TV selling a product on TV that you can't
directly buy from them on TV you have to go
through an intermediary or a physician.
Speaker 3: I mean that is a clear attempt to control the
narrative of big media. I mean, you know, I can't
write bad things about people that pay my bills, and
I really think that's a conflict of conflict of interest.
There are several along the chain, but I don't think
until the amount of money the big pharma spends to
fund medical schools, where if you look at the number
of courses that a physician has about how to write
prescriptions and how to versus nutritional classes, where you can
take this kind of big agriculture out of the system.
Speaker 1: And here's my thing, Steve, it is about the money,
and here's where the money needs to go. It needs
to go back into the hands of people. It matters
to me that on this program we made a promise
on day one that we would take inventory and we
would always leave slots open for companies like Alan Soaps.
Alan Soaps in all in all reality couldn't afford to
be on our national radio programs. They couldn't afford to
be here. We are honored to work with them because
the company means more than soap. Now Number one, the
soap is amazing. It's made in America, it's all natural.
It's made by a family with three generations of soap
making expertise, and young Allan creates many of the fragrances.
Speaker 2: You know this.
Speaker 1: He's thirteen. He's been through about eighteen operations. He's so
high up on the autism spectrum that he's effectively nonverbal.
It doesn't mean he's not a brilliant kid. When we
started this together almost three years ago, Alan was the
sole employee. His dad John runs the company. Allan's a
chief soap officer. Because of you purchasing soap, Ian now
works there. And there's Ian's Blend, which is a liquid soap.
Great to put in your businesses, great way to share
all lives matter with business people, associates, and customers. Now
there's a third employee because of the success of the
soap company. Go to Alan Soaps dot com slash todd,
get temper sent off all your purchases there, it's Allen
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that to you. All lives do matter. So I'm a big,
big fan of this model of it's not single payer.
It is tax write offs for using our money wisely.
In regard to healthcare, there's an HSA. You know, you
have the health spending accounts again, all of this stuff,
But what about just a tax write off for core
healthcare needs, doctor visits, for welcare, child visits, fixing broken bones,
core needs like this, graduating up into when you have
a real catastrophe, being able to choose a doctor based
upon the fact you know you're going to get your
money back on taxes. We're already giving money to people
who don't have enough income for this. That's not going
to stop Medicare, Medicaid that's there. I would also take
that money and apportion to the individual because this is
the studies that I've seen when you know, you're paying
the bill, and the doctor comes into the and you're
in the hospital saying, and they bring you aspirin, You're
gonna say, wait a minute, how much does the hospital
aspirin cost? And this is where the costs are so interesting. Oh,
the hospital aspirin, it's ten dollars per pill. Nope, I
brought my own. I'll use my own. Thanks. The studies
show that when people are controlling their own money, they
ask questions like, wait a minute, am I paying for
that sock you're putting on me? Truly, when I had
my last surgery, they were putting a nylon on my arm.
I said, wait a minute, am I paying for that nylon?
I'll bring one next time. So if we were to
do that, I think that would be a monumental shift.
And if there's an insurance model, let them compete, but
let the individual people actually shop for caret last thing
is this, in direct patient care models, they publish prices,
which is to be illegal. You couldn't publish the price
range of a surgery. Force them to do that. I think, Steve,
those are the big economic changes that could change healthcare
for the better in the United States.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right. You know. So in the
US system, you know, insurance is very difficult to get.
It's you know, it's expensive. And what I have found
in my understanding because I'm a little bit on the inside,
I understand how the system works. I understand the difference
between a hospital aspert and a regular aspirt. But if
you just pay cash, it is surprising how inexpensive so
many items. See. Yes, it's telling me because the first
thing I say is can I have your insurance card?
And even though I have insurance, I say no, No.
For this doctor's I want to pay cash, and it's
shocking how inexpensive it is in some cases to do that.
Or I want to get an MRI. Remember when MRIs
what fifteen one hundred and seventeen hundred dollars? I just
I just sent one somebody to get a lumbar MRI
here in Phoenix to a big provider, and it was
two hundred and fifty dollars cash.
Speaker 1: Right right, they find out your cash. I did the
same thing for time's sake, when I was coming down
to see you and I got an MRI, I needed
to hurry it along and before I couldn't see you
couldn't help me with the left shoulder. You said come
down afterwards, but you couldn't help me prior. And so
when we were going through that, I needed to hurry
and get that done. And I went in and oh,
we'll need insurance approval. I said, no, I'll pay cash
and insurance. In Idaho it was nine hundred bucks. They
came back to me one hundred and fifty bucks and oh,
if you're going to pay cash. If people understood this
more and understood that insurance is simply a big way
for big companies to make more money because they're all
in on this, and I think things would change. I'm
so blessed to have you as a partner and a friend,
and I look forward to seeing you. I'm planning on
coming down sometime in November to see you guys and
hang out and get some more stuff done. And thank
you for the testimonis. Thank you for by the way,
Thank you for you do this with everybody. It's not
because they're podcast family members, but thank thank you and
James and your whole team for spending time with human beings. Man,
that's a big deal that you guys do that. Thank
you for treating our podcast family member.
Speaker 3: So well, yeah, I know, happy to do it. It's it's,
as you rightly point out, it is a labor of love.
It's you know, how do we help people get better
with the higher quality of life, which is really important.
Speaker 1: Yep, appreciate it. Thank you, Steve God, thank you for
the miracle of stem cells. Thank you for people who
will wisely steward the resources you've given them, including intelligence.
This is the Todd Herman Shaw. Please go, be well,
be strong, be kind, Please make every effort to walk
in the light of Christ.