Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. When
it comes to Brian Cohberger and the murders in Moscow,
one of the biggest pieces of evidence that the police
have in their possession, most certainly is his vehicle. Considering
how gruesome the crime scene is or was, you would
have to think that Brian Colberger had blood on him
or some sort of DNA on him. If he's the
man the government's telling us he is when he got
into that vehicle, and if he did and there was
any DNA on him whatsoever, they're gonna be able to
find it in that vehicle. They're gonna pull everything apart,
like we saw in the warrants. They pulled out the cushions,
they pulled out the visors, everything, they're ripping it apart,
and they're testing all of that material that they pull out.
And if there's even one little speck of DNA on that,
Brian Colberger is as good as cooked. And I would
be shocked at this point if it comes out later
on that they didn't find any DNA in that car,
If they didn't find anything in that car, that might
be something that goes as a check mark towards Coburger right,
as far as the jury's concerned. Anyway, his attorney can
get up there and say, look, there wasn't any DNA
in this car. You mean to tell me that this
dude went in there and killed four people and didn't
bring any DNA with him back to his vehicle. That'll
be the argument if they can't find any DNA here.
So it's gonna be interesting to see what they pull
from this car when all is said and done. Today
we have an article talking about this from Newsweek headline
why Brian Coberger's car could be a key to the case,
according to a former CIA officer. This article was authored
by Kalita Rockman. Brian Coberger's HONDEI Lantra will be the
key to the case against him, according to a former
CIA officer. I agree with that. I think that this
car is gonna pay off in spades when all is
said and done. And I think that literally, it's a
rolling crime scene. And unless he had plastic everywhere in
the car, you know, over the seats, everywhere, I mean everywhere,
chances are these investigators are going to find some DNA. Coburger,
twenty eight, is accused of breaking into a rental home
in Moscow, Idaho, in the early hours of November thirteenth,
and fatally stabbing Kaylee Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and
Ethan Chapin. The four were students at the University of Idaho,
and at the time of the slayings, Coburger was a
PhD student at Washington State University in nearby Pullman. He
has not yet entered a plea to four counts of
first degree murder and one count of burglary, but a
previous lawyer said he was eager to be exonerated. A
preliminary hearing is scheduled for late June, and we know
that he is going to plead not guilty. At this point,
there's no way that he's going to get up there
in June and say, yup, you know what I did it.
I'm willing to take my punishment, especially now that we
have heard that the governor has signed into law death
by firing squad. Pretty sure Brian Coberger doesn't want to
deal with that. Police searched Coburger's Hondai a Lantra as
well as his family's home following his arrest. At his
family's home in all Brightsville, Pennsylvania, and we went through
that warrant, and in that warrant it told us what
they took out of that car. A whole bunch of stuff.
I mean a shovel, tire, iron, the visor, seat cushions,
the door handle, all kinds of stuff, and all of
that stuff is going to be run through the ringer
and tested for the DNA of the Moscow four. They
took a door panel, seat cushions, headrests, a seat belt advisor,
and breaking gas pedals from the car, according to court
documents unsealed earlier this month, police also seized hiking boots,
a shovel, goggles, gloves, floor mats, a band aid, maps, documents,
and other items from the vehicle. So he had that
shovel in there, those hiking boots. My guess is this, folks,
And this is what I've said from the beginning. After
Brian Koberger allegedly murdered the Moscow for he took that
long route home so that he could get rid of
all of this shit, have a burn pit, dig a hole,
whatever it was. And that's where the shovel came into play.
As far as the hiking boots. Who knows. Living out
in Idaho, Washington, you know, Pullmon area, hiking is a
big activity for people, and I don't find it that
strange that he had hiking boots in his car. In fact,
I keep a fully stocked bag in my car just
in case I ever want to go climb or go
on a hike. So I understand that part of it.
But when you look at it in the totality of
what happened here, or what the government tells us what
happened anyway, there's no other reason for him to go
home the long way like he did unless he's trying
to get rid of some kind of evidence. That evidence
will be crucial to the prosecution's case. Tracy Walder, a
former CIA officer and FBI agent, told News Nation, I've
always felt that the car was the key to this case,
and I've said that really all along, she said, and
she has been pretty consistent with that commentary. And once
we found out about the car, I knew that eventually
when they found it, it would be a treasure trove
for the investigators because there's no way that he hid
all of that DNA if he had it on him
when he got in that car, some of it got somewhere,
and with as crazy as the forensic teams go looking
for this stuff once it's in their possession, I find
it hard to believe that they're not going to come
away with something and something significant. They did say that
in the warrant that became unsealed that the car really
had been disassembled completely by law enforcement, and that's what
you'll see a lot in cases like this drug cases.
The cobs will pull your car apart until it's nothing
but bolts. She said. Investigators would be searching for any
biological evidence that might have been left in the nooks
and crannies of the car, and checking if the vehicle
had been tampered with in an attempt to cover up
any crime. And what they'll do there is they'll look
for any kind of excessive cleaning, any kind of you know,
substances used that shouldn't be used in a car, you know, bleach,
stuff like that, and all of that sounds insignificant, but
when it's added to the totality of what we already
know and brought before the jurors, it's going to weigh
very large and heavy. Experts have previously told Newsweek how
prosecutors could use Coburger's vehicle to make the case against Coburger.
If investigators have identified blood or any other trace evidence
from the victims in Coburger's vehicle, that would be huge.
Joseph Gaclone, adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice,
is said, if they can uncover evidence of trying to
get rid of evidence, such as bleach, that will also
be damaging for the defense. Absolutely. You know, all of
these little mundane things, they don't seem like they are
important or like they matter, But in the grand scheme
of things, when we're talking about the totality of the
case and presenting the evidence as a grand sum to
the jury, all of that stuff is super important because
they're all ties that bind, and when you weave a
web like this, all of these ties end up connecting
to each other, and that's what gives you, as a prosecutor,
a winning case. Investigators honed in on Coburger as the
suspect in the killings after searching for a white sedan
that was seen near the home at the time of
the killings. According to the probable cause affidavid, investigators narrowed
the vehicle down to the twenty eleven through twenty sixteen
white HONDEI a Lantra and told regional law enforce Horse
meant to be on the lookout for a vehicle matching
that description. And when they first came out, remember, they
weren't willing to say if he was a person of
interest or just somebody who had critical knowledge of the murders.
And a lot of that was gamesmanship on behalf of
the prosecution. On November twenty ninth, a Washington State University
officer found the twenty fifteen Hondai A Lantra registered to Coburger.
Another officer that day saw Coburger's vehicle in a parking lot,
looked up his name, and noted he had switched his
car registration from Pennsylvania to Washington on November eighteenth, five
days after the murders, completely suspect, even though it was
due to be changed. When you're somebody who committed a
murder or murderers, like they say Brian Coberger did, the
last thing you want to do is get on their
radar at all. He should have got rid of this
car right away. Hell, he should have never used this
car in the first to commit these murders. Talk about
world's dumbest criminals. The affidavit said investigators looked at Coburger's
history and saw he had given a deputy a cell
phone number during an August traffic stop. They used surveillance
footage and cell phone data to sketch out a possible
travel route on the night of the killings. FBI agents
later surveilled Coburger as he made a cross country drive
with his father in the Elantra to his parents' home
in Pennsylvania in mid December. So this guy knew that
everybody was looking for this Lantra and he still had
the audacity to drive it across country with his dad.
Imagine having that kind of hubris and at all points
to him being a narcissist. He was arrested after DNA
recovered from the trash discarded from the family's home was
connected to DNA found on a knife sheath found at
the crime scene. Look, folks, there's no doubt that the
car is going to prove crucial here. And the question
obviously is have they found anything in that car, And
we just don't know yet. What we do know for
sure is that those warrants were executed, and we know
that those items were taken from the car and they're
now being tested or have been tested, and if it
comes back when those results are in that there's any
DNA from any of these victims in that car, well, folks,
you can line Brian Coohberger up right against the wall,
all right, everybody that's gonna do it for this one.
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