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let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in one of

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my favorite guess we got the big man, Brandon Huffman

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of two four to seven Sports.

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Speaker 2: Brandon, how the heck are you, buddy?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Just living the gym out of these days?

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Speaker 4: Ben? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Love it man, appreciate you hopping on. I'm doing fantastic.

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We're in November. College football season is in full effect.

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For getting in the basketball season, high school playoffs and

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state championships are being handed out. We uh, I know

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you took a nice trip out to Salt Lake City

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to get eyes on these local talents, so I want

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to delve into that.

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Speaker 2: But what's this time of the year like for you

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there at two four seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy because you're dealing with a lot of

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the schools that with a crazy coaching carousel. You're dealing

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with a lot of the schools that are, you know,

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getting close to making a new hire, and what does

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that mean for the current commits? What does that mean

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for commits to other schools? Will they circle back? So

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you're tracking that, tracking who's going where. Then the late flips,

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the guys that have been committed to a school for

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the year today, a quarterback from the Bay Area had

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been committed to Vanderbilt for fourteen months, two weeks before

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sunning Day decides to commit and open things up. So

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a lot of flip watches going on right now, as

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well as the coaching carousel watch. And we haven't even

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gotten into the portal which is opening for D two

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and D three right now. We'll be opening in January,

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so we still have that whole crazy part of the

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season to cover.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just saw recently with the James Franklin hire, for instance,

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that all these Penn State recruits and commits are going

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to be taking an official visits to Virginia Tech this

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next weekend.

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Speaker 2: The chaos is already ensuing.

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Speaker 4: You got Virginia Tech who's got one coach on the field,

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the interim head coach is coaching, while the new head

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coach who won't coach a game until next August, is

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recruiting guys and bringing guys in for official visits, and

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he's replacing his good friend and his former DC. I mean,

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if that doesn't kind of speak to where college football

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is at in twenty twenty five, I don't know what does.

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But that's the kind of craziest. I mean, you got

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the whole ole miss situation. If Lane Kifton is gonna stay,

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is he going to go? They may need an answer

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and what does that mean for ole missus recruiting class.

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And so there's so many dominoes in play with the

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coaching changes that are even in addition to the already

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crazy nature of the final weeks until signing day.

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Speaker 2: Crazy times.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the crazy times here at Salt Lake City.

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You got to see some good football and good football players.

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Speaker 2: How was your trip out the SLC oh.

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Speaker 4: It was fantastic. You know, Blairry and Goulah, who I

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work with, had been covering that event for years and

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had been raving about it, and so I was excited

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to get out there. And the weather could not have

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been better. It was perfect. It wasn't too cold, it

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wasn't too hot, it was just like kind of the

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right weather, and then you got to see some great action.

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Speaker 3: You got to see, as I put.

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Speaker 4: It this week on our podcast, the guys that I

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wanted to see really dominate did. And you when you

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go to an event like that and you see six

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games and you see, you know, commit to every power

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for conference and then to the PAC twelve and the

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Big Sky, you want those playmakers to make the plays.

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I went to go watch, they did their thing. But

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then even other guys that maybe weren't as high on

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the radar, they did their thing as well. So that's

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what it was great to have, you know, six games

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over two days and great teams loaded with talent. It

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wasn't like you were just going to watch one guy

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on the team. You know, some of these teams had

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double digit Division one guys and so I definitely got

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my money's worth. I will be back for future semi finals.

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It was everything that Blair had hyped it up to be.

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Speaker 1: And then some who was most impressive to you in

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your trip out here out of the recruit that you

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Speaker 4: I would say obviously Keenan Pula had the play.

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Speaker 3: Of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: But if we're going from the beginning of the game

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to the end of the game, without question, it was

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little Petti Moulwalla. And this is the second time this

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year I got a chance to see him. I had

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seen him earlier in the season in Boising Factor against

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when Orion played Rocky Mountain and he had fifty three

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and a half sacks in that game. He was awesome

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on Thursday and then also had a touchdown catch. But

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what a menace he is going to be for offensive

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linemen in the Big twelve. They're just gonna have a

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hard time figuring out a way to block him because

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he's so crappy's so technically sound. He's got a great motor,

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he's got quickness off the ball, he's got that length.

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Speaker 3: The game to the end of the game and everything

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that he did in between, it.

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Speaker 4: That Lopetti was probably my favorite player last weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: That's a really nice pickup for b Yu. I don't

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think realize how good he is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that you know, he was a

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little bit overshadowed at times by other guys in the

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state that probably had a lot of the early attention.

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the most dramatic recruitment. I think he visited Stanford. I

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want to say he maybe visited cal. I know he

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visited UCLA Utah, but BYU, you know, it's kind of.

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Speaker 3: An unremarkable recruitment in terms of he just didn't bring

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a lot of attention to it.

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Speaker 4: He just went out there and you know, make the plays.

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excitement about Rider Lions committing in the spring, and you know,

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where were they going to stand with some of the

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other top targets that he kind of flipped under the radar.

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But now you look back and you see how he's

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jumped up in the rankings, and you see what he's

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done on the field this year, And now that's one

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that you look at that you could call it a

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sneaky good pickup, but I think it's not sneaky good.

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I think it's an outstanding pickup.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the top ten recruits in the state

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of Utah for two four seven, pretty much all of

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our four star and I think Kenny Poola is like, right,

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there knocking on the door of a four star. He's

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at number ten, behind Mata Ali, Benjamin and Jared, his brother.

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Speaker 4: Yep and Ken just actually moved out to a four

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star in twenty four to SEVENS rankings on Wednesday himself.

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So again, it's a very strong year in state, a

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lot of really good talent and a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of different positions too.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what's probably you know, you and I

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have talked about for years, where it's not just lineman.

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Obviously there are skill position players. There are players everywhere

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outside the trenches that are worth recruiting. But then you

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still got the guys that are in the trenches that

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are worth recruiting. So it's very across the board positionally.

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I think in Utah in this class, when.

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Speaker 1: You look at the commitment, Celessi Moa is at Tennessee

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or he's going to be. He committed to Tennessee, Broadcrris Babma,

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Lutalo to b YU, Trading Bezinger, Iowa, Easton, Tufa, Sson

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Topflexcuse me usc Heleiman Casuga Texas A and m Lopetti

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uh is at b YU and then Jared, Matali and

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Kennon all going to Utah, Tayden right outside the top ten,

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Titan Kaawa, Alabama, then Legend Adam Bywater, Graham Livingston all

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to b Yu Kai Meza Cal A nice mix of

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of of of different teams, different uh, different positions.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty diversified.

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Speaker 4: Well, and that's four different power for conferences, he said,

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you know with Kai going to Cal, that gives him

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the acc You've got the two SEC quarterbacks. I mean,

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when was the last time that the state of Utah

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had two quarter up two players maybe going to the SEC,

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let alone two quarterbacks going to the se see two

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top ten teams. I mean a week ago that was

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the number three and the number four teams in the

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country and their quarterback commits came from Utah. And that

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doesn't even take into account you know, arguably the best

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quarterback in Utah, who's going to Iowa to the big ten.

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So yeah, I mean how often does Iowa dip their

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toes into the water into the state of Utah. And

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so that's what's probably the most impressive thing is that

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the geographical diversity the recruiting classes in the twenty twenty

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sixth class and then you still have Utah and BYU

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getting there the line share of the in state kids,

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and then Utah State there's a couple of kids good

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on that list that Utah States getting that are really

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impressive pickups too. So I think that again just speaks

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to the ability and the talent of the state of

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Utah and the depth of the state as well.

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Speaker 1: Who's the most underrated UH in this class? Do you

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think in twenty twenty six, is there a most underrated

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prospect in this class?

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Speaker 4: Then? You know I have this everybody's properly rated, right,

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nobody's one.

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Speaker 2: Everyone, No, But if.

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Speaker 4: There's a guy that I would say, you know, has

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probably played out played his ranking, it's probably two of

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the kids that are. I mean Kawa Akana and Isa Gailier,

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you know, going to b Yu and Utah respectively. I

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think what they've done in the last two weeks especially,

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I was at the like I said, I was at

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the game against Rocky Mountain and Issa had a kickoff

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return for a touchdown. I think he did that yesterday

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as well in the state championship game. He scored the

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first touchdown for aorum last week. And then Kaway, you know,

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he had some health issues earlier in the season. It

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took him a while to get going, but when he did,

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he had over one hundred yards receiving four orum last week.

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So those are two guys.

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Speaker 3: That I think, you know, definitely could have been in the.

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Speaker 4: Conversation for four stars as well with the double digit

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guys already in the state. And those are two guys

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that I think, you know, b Yu and Utah got

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to be giddy that they're getting, you know, to come

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in and being that they could be rated higher, which

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could make you know, some of those guys in this

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day and age cost them a little bit more. But

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two guys that I think you know have a great

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chance about playing where they're when they get to college.

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Speaker 1: How would you grade by us pickups in the state

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comparative to other schools that are recruiting against them right now?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's fantastic because you can get a

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an atom bywater. I think what was looking like a

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good in stat place because class becomes a great in

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state class, and I think you know, to get those

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to get a pass rusher, everybody's looking for pass rushers.

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tight end. In the modern era, you're seeing the tight

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versatility that Adam Bywater has, you know, that's big with

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a with a kawe. You know, his positional versatility. He

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could be a really good saky, he could be a

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really good receiver. He even kicks. I mean, you're getting

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guys at different positions of needs, and I think that

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that's what you know makes it so well. It's not

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like you're just focusing on one position and you're getting

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all the best linemen in state. You know, you're getting

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a good player at this position, a good player at

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this position. Now you go to the other side of

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the ball, you're getting a good player at that spot,

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a good player at that spot. And that's what you

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Speaker 3: I think that's something.

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Speaker 4: That you know BYU and Utah have done such a

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good job over the last decade of really keeping those

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top kids in state. And yeah, you know you lose

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a kid likes Ce. Let's say to Tennessee, and it's

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understandable you're not going to keep every kid, especially if

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you look at California. How many kids from California lead

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the state altogether. I think Bye in Utah of all

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the states in the western part of the country, do

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the best job of keeping the local kids home when

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the sport's never been more transient than it is right now.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's any flips that could occur?

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December here. Do you think any flips could occur? Any

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of these prospects that are in the top twenty that

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are currently committed to certain schools they flip to an

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in state school here along the loast that front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean PJ Taki Talkie is probably going to

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end up at Utah when it's all said and done.

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He was a to b Yu, so I mean he

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did de commit I S so I wouldn't necessarily call

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him a flip, even though he may end up at Utah.

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I will say that, you know, if you're you're gonna

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see flips, it'll be like the Matadi Benjamins where they're

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committed to a school outside the region and then decide

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at the end of the day, I want to stay

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closer to home. But the one that I would say

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keep an eye on the most right now would be

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Eastern Tasa. And that's mostly because I know, you know,

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he has been pursued by both Uyu and Utah despite

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his commity USC after he had decommitted from Washington. He's

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the one that I still taught all the way up

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until signing day that one's not a done deal for USC.

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I know USC is fighting like tooth and nail to

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hold on to him, But he would be the one

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that I would say circle, just because I know how

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hard BYU and Utah are trying to get him to

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stay in state. And you know, with the success that

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he's had at Corner Canyon the last couple of years,

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and obviously Corner Canyon's had quite a few players that are.

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Speaker 3: Choosing to leave the region.

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Speaker 4: But with Eastern, I could see, you know, the closer

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gets the signing day, the more the the heartstrings could

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help BYU in Utah, but USC is definitely worth the

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you know, putting up a fight to keep him.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of players who are committed elsewhere

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wearing a different schools football gloves like a.

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Speaker 2: Lot it was made of. I don't know if you saw.

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Speaker 4: There's Oh I thought, believe me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jari knet we're online, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Jeri knned Pula, we're wearing BYU gloves. And so look,

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there's been buzz around the Poola twins for a long time.

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And and they were at they were committed to UCLA,

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they decommit, they commit to Utah. Are they are they

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still getting recruited right now? Are they still maybe open

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for business? Is Brett Yormark likes to say.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty five, nothing is done even when the

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papers are signed. You know, we thought last year with

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guys that were committed to a school and signed with

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the school and ultimately ended up the way that it's

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so easy to transfer to get out of it. And

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they're no longer signing national lewners of intent. They're citing

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intent to enrolls. It's so much easier to get out

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of those than the old days. So I've always believed

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the subscribe to the adage, watch what they do, not

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what they say, to let that be an indicator. By

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no means am I saying that people should read into

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the gloves. But it.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 4: They're both committed to Utah, they're playing on the field

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at Utah and they're wearing the arch rivals gloves. You know,

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maybe there is.

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Speaker 1: Did you raise your eyebrowsers will be like oh or

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is that right? Like?

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Speaker 4: Eh, you know, I mean, I'm used to I've been

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doing this long enough where I'm used to guys wearing

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gloves from one school, a you know, a skull cap

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from another school, a talis in the third school, and

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socks from before school. It's never Hey, I'm going to

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be committed to this school and I'm going to wear

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the gloves of their rival while I'm playing on the

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campus of the school I'm going to. That kind of

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added a little extra dimension of spice to it.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Hoffman two four seven Sports a Recruiting Insider covers

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all things on the around the country for two four seven.

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Speaker 2: What have you been writing about?

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Speaker 1: What are some of the features that we can find

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that you've written about over the last week.

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Speaker 3: Granted, yeah, it's actually been kind of fun.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're getting to that time of year where

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you're kind of trying to assess, you know, what is

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recruiting like in twenty twenty five. I just did a

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feature on Air Force and Troy Calhoun and how he's

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recruiting in twenty twenty five at a service academy in

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the era of the transfer portal and nil when they

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don't have that to offer. And then I just did

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a piece yesterday on Callan Stanford how Ron Rivera and

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Andrew luck leave the NFL to go back to their

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alma maters at a time where there's never been more

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of a need for oversight in leadership. Yet they're navigating

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a conference that they didn't play in or coaching when

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they were collegiate players and now see their school on

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the other side of the country and trying to make

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sense of where it's at. While one's trying to hold

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on to his quarterback that everybody in the country's going

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to want, and the other one's trying to hire a

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coach at his alma mater. So you know, we're getting

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to that.

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Speaker 3: Time of year where hey, we're dealing with the transfer.

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Speaker 4: Portal, well, dealing with NIO, We're dealing with guys signing

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and not necessarily signing because that's the best fit for

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what they do from a football standpoint. It's the best

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tit for what they do from a resources standpoint, And

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you know, with guys committing earlier and earlier in the year,

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we're still getting to that crazy season. We're like, hey,

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just because guys committed six months ago does not mean

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at all that they're sticking with that school. So we've

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got two weeks of craziness. We've got signing days, signing

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what four.

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Speaker 3: Days after the regular season.

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Speaker 4: Ends, and then you got the playoffs, So there's still

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plenty of content cranking out these days.

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Speaker 1: Last thing I got for your little rivalry talk as

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we were talking about the pool of twins, as by

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You now officially caught up to Utah. You tied a

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head start of over what thirteen years now in the

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power force. Status is by you officially caught up?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's fair to say that they're pretty

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even in how they're recruiting. And I think that, you know,

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Utah maybe doing a little bit more national recruiting than

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BYU does, just in terms of intentional targeting of guys

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in Texas and guys in Florida, which Utah has been

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doing for some time. But I think, you know, it's

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certainly fair to say that they're pretty even in their recruiting.

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It certainly was a stretch there where Utah just about

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god everybody they wanted in state, and then BYU has

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done a really good jug the last two or three

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classes of kind of turning the table. So I think

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that they're they're certainly on equal footing when it comes

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to recruiting. And I think it's, you know, just adding

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another dimension to a robbery that's so loving and caring

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towards each side.

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Speaker 1: Love it branded best way to support you. How you

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Speaker 1: Love it man, you do fantastic work. Love hearing from you.

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And oh you know what twenty twenty seven, Real quick,

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twenty twenty seven. How's the twenty twenty seven class shaping

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up for BYU?

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Speaker 2: Is it too early to talk? Twenty twenty seven?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you what they had. Getting Utah at

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home this year was great for them. They had a

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huge recruit week. In that weekend they had trading Messenger

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who or sorry, guys, got Buddy Sparrow trading's the quarterback

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to twenty six. But Buddy Sparrow is there. Crew Jones

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who helped his team win a state championship yesterday there

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at Ridgeline. He was there so many of the twenty

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eights in class in the state.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good twenty seven and twenty.

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Speaker 4: Eight class in the state of Utah, and Yu had

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almost every one of those guys at their game against Utah.

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So to get that win against in state foe was

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certainly well. But we'll start to see the twenty sevens

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ramp up here in the next month or two.

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Speaker 1: Love it, Brandon, We salute you, We appreciate you always

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, Ban, We'll talk to you there.

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