Speaker 1: He'll be don't be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy.
Speaker 2: Let's do this for August twenty eighth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: For the next hour or so, let me help you
Speaker 2: sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings
Speaker 2: Live with me Jeff Grubb. Today is the new is
Speaker 2: the new activision under Microsoft, still dragging its feet about unions,
Speaker 2: Astrobot won't get ported to VR, and consoles may get
Speaker 2: even more expensive here pretty soon. But first please join
Speaker 2: me and welcome in today's co host to Game Mess Mornings.
Speaker 1: It's lex Luddie. Everybody, Lexie, how are you doing?
Speaker 3: You know, having just done a bunch of travel this summer,
Speaker 3: I was just thinking things are getting way too cheap,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's the too flush with cash, well mostly coins,
Speaker 2: pennies mostly, but hey, yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 1: Do something with that stuff. Might as well give it to.
Speaker 2: A corporation, is what I always say. You were at
Speaker 2: games Com. Sounds like it was a good time, sounds
Speaker 2: like it was a busy time, and you were just
Speaker 2: telling me you got you have like seventeen things you
Speaker 2: have to you still have to ride or have you
Speaker 2: have you crossed.
Speaker 1: Any awful list? Yet have you made progress on that progress?
Speaker 3: I currently have like two pieces posted. You can go
Speaker 3: read my Monster Hunter impressions and you can go read
Speaker 3: my Phantom Blade zero impressions. All right, and push the
Speaker 3: Layer and Shock News respectively.
Speaker 1: It's a Fantom Blade zero, the next game that's going
Speaker 1: to destroy the woke.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, because it's not really a video
Speaker 3: game yet. It's like, okay, fine, it's like, hey, here's
Speaker 3: three combat and encounters we made. By the way, this
Speaker 3: game is coming out in twenty twenty six at the earliest. Anyway, Okay, gotcha, Okay,
Speaker 3: very cool. But it plays great, it feels fantastic, It's interesting.
Speaker 3: I'm curious about it. I've played it twice now, both
Speaker 3: at Summer Games First and Games Calm, and then I've
Speaker 3: like submitted like three or four other pieces, and then
Speaker 3: I just have a load of fucking interviews to transcribe.
Speaker 3: I met Suda fifty one and Shinji mccamie. I can
Speaker 3: say that and have some interesting stuff from that that
Speaker 3: I might get a new story out of, so I'll
Speaker 3: be cool. And obviously I met my very good friend,
Speaker 3: my excellent friend.
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's a great and did he really start, Oh,
Speaker 2: that's right, because you had the ticket under the seat,
Speaker 2: you won the golden ticket.
Speaker 1: I want to.
Speaker 4: Know what happened for any podcast listeners.
Speaker 3: I just held up a four x three of Jeff
Speaker 3: Keeley's face back from when he hosted the Spike Video
Speaker 3: Game Awards. By the looks of this picture, which is
Speaker 3: signed in like block letters, which is okay. So yeah,
Speaker 3: basically what happened was at Opening Night Live. A couple
Speaker 3: of friends of mine went to dev Calm, which is
Speaker 3: kind of like the dev show before Games Calm, and
Speaker 3: so they were at the clone messer before everyone else
Speaker 3: and they were like, hey, do you want to come
Speaker 3: up to the top of the line because you're going
Speaker 3: to Opening Night Live and I was like yeah, sure,
Speaker 3: and they started handing out these like tickets and people
Speaker 3: were like, what's going on up here? And people there
Speaker 3: was mainly Germans there, and the tickets were in English,
Speaker 3: so they were like what do they say? And then
Speaker 3: they were like, oh, it's to meet Jeff. And they
Speaker 3: were like do you want some, and the other journalists
Speaker 3: with me were like no, not really, and I was
Speaker 3: like that ship is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 4: Give me one right now.
Speaker 3: And so I got it and then we were We
Speaker 3: got in early and just to run through all of
Speaker 3: Opening Night Live because it was wild. We sat down
Speaker 3: near the front and there were like reserve seats right
Speaker 3: next to me, and there were like four reserve seats
Speaker 3: at the age of each row. And as we're going by,
Speaker 3: someone tries to sit in one of the seats and
Speaker 3: like a bodyguard looking guy says, no, no, no, you
Speaker 3: can't sit there. Microsoft people are sitting there and I go, oh, God,
Speaker 3: I know what's coming next. And so we're sat there
Speaker 3: and then like five minutes later, Sarah Bond and Phil
Speaker 3: Spencer and their cohorter people show up and.
Speaker 4: Sit next to us, and we're.
Speaker 3: Oh, so I'm holding my fucking golden tickish like an
Speaker 3: absolute idiosh, being like I'm so excited to meet my
Speaker 3: best friend Jeff. And anyway, that tweet went viral. Let's
Speaker 3: not talk about that because I heard it.
Speaker 1: It made its.
Speaker 4: Rounds internally, so that was fun.
Speaker 3: But after the show, they're like, oh, you're gonna do
Speaker 3: your Mesi and greet with Jeff. The fifty people who
Speaker 3: they handed these golden tickets too, are going to do
Speaker 3: the Mesian greet with Jeff Keeley and Sharks. Let me
Speaker 3: tell you one. The German people, they're way more excited
Speaker 3: about Sharks and hell yeah yeah. And so there was
Speaker 3: an after party after Opening Night Live. And the way
Speaker 3: it worked was it was in one of the convention
Speaker 3: halls and it was in the same convention hall as
Speaker 3: Opening Night Live. These big black cursions that separated the
Speaker 3: after party zone from the Opening Night Live zone. The
Speaker 3: lights come up and everyone who's invited to the after
Speaker 3: party goes to the after party area, which is still
Speaker 3: like the lights are down and they have like mood
Speaker 3: lighting or whatever. So I walk back there with the
Speaker 3: golden ticket because they tell us it's at the back
Speaker 3: of the hall.
Speaker 4: I walk up there with the chicken and they're like.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're with
Speaker 3: the gamers. You are not in the VIP area.
Speaker 4: You're with the gamers. And so they.
Speaker 1: Said citizens like always. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They send me back halfway up the hall to before
Speaker 3: the cursion, where it's like a blightly lisch area, right yeah,
Speaker 3: as if to make sure that we are all in
Speaker 3: view and sight. It is blightly listed. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 3: there's a two by four or a step in repete. Sorry,
Speaker 3: there's a Steven with pem with like Opening Night Live
Speaker 3: stuff on it. And because I got onto the VIP
Speaker 3: area first, I was like the last to get there,
Speaker 3: and so I joined the end of the que and
Speaker 3: the guy in front of me goes, you can go
Speaker 3: in front, and I.
Speaker 4: Was like no, no, no, your grand and he goes
Speaker 4: in like really a.
Speaker 3: Strong German accent. No, I want to be the last
Speaker 3: one to eat Jeff. And I was like, holy shit, is.
Speaker 4: This guy gonna murder Jeff Chili boy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just how German show affection.
Speaker 3: And so after about twenty minutes awaiting Jeff and shop
Speaker 3: shop and then another twenty minutes of like going through it,
Speaker 3: we get to it and I get to the top
Speaker 3: of the line and like there's only like two people
Speaker 3: behind me at this point because another person joined lash
Speaker 3: and the guy again said I want to go last
Speaker 3: and put them in front. And so we're there and
Speaker 3: I walk up to Jeff and I'm like, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: a freelance journalist. I've worked with like Giant barm and
Speaker 3: I've helped out with you know, other places, and he
Speaker 3: was like, oh, you had summer games first. I was like,
Speaker 3: yeah it was, and he was like, did you enjoy it?
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, it's actually pretty well set
Speaker 3: up for like for you know, journals, and you can
Speaker 3: get around the place and you can see things.
Speaker 4: And then he's like, oh, do you want a picture?
Speaker 3: And my original idea was I thought would be really
Speaker 3: funny if I just no sold it, if I just
Speaker 3: had like the blankest expression on in the world. But
Speaker 3: as soon as they like took my phone to take
Speaker 3: the picture and I was standing in between this esportswoman
Speaker 3: who I'd only heard of that earlier that day and
Speaker 3: Jeff Keeley, and everything dawned on me and I just.
Speaker 4: Started like laughing to myself.
Speaker 3: So now the picture that I have is me like smiling, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I look like I'm demented smiling yeah, and like I'm
Speaker 3: way intoish. And then they handed me a four by
Speaker 3: three with their signatures on it, and I'm going to
Speaker 3: keep that in my wallet.
Speaker 2: So it was like pre signed it was it was
Speaker 2: just like already good to go, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I do think he would assigned stuff if you had
Speaker 3: asked him or whatever, but also I don't think anyone
Speaker 3: was asking, right, So yeah.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a good time. It sounds like you, uh,
Speaker 2: but you won a special treat and yeah, you had
Speaker 2: a good time with that as well. You know, it
Speaker 2: sounds like a successful opening night live and then games come.
Speaker 4: It was great because I got no food that nice.
Speaker 3: And then I arrived back over where everyone's like getting
Speaker 3: drinks and stuff at like eleven o'clock.
Speaker 1: You can't feed the gamers, you just can't.
Speaker 4: Actually it was like quarters to twelve.
Speaker 3: It was almost midnight by time I got into the
Speaker 3: city center again and people.
Speaker 4: Are like, oh, where were you all niche.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I was in the Kili line.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well either way, glad that it was a good time.
Speaker 2: Hopefully the traveling's done for a little bit or you
Speaker 2: you got anything else lined up.
Speaker 1: It is that time of year. It's that time of
Speaker 1: year for us. We were like doing stuff back to
Speaker 1: back here.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm happy I didn't go to Germany because
Speaker 2: I'm going to pass this weekend and then I have
Speaker 2: another thing like immediately after that, so it's just nonstopping
Speaker 2: it right now.
Speaker 3: And out with the GB folks was super lovely and
Speaker 3: some of the other fandom folks and that really like
Speaker 3: ground into me. Of like, I want to go to
Speaker 3: a PAX and like, go to a show where I'm
Speaker 3: not constantly working and.
Speaker 4: I can just hang out with people.
Speaker 3: You know for sure, when I was hanging out with you,
Speaker 3: you know at Summer Games first, everyone was running a
Speaker 3: live show and actually it's stressful, yes, so you can't
Speaker 3: really sit down and have a chat with anyone. And
Speaker 3: so I was like, yeah, I'd love to get over
Speaker 3: to a PAX. I might be going to eg X,
Speaker 3: which is in September, but after combining it with London
Speaker 3: Karmic Con, which will be a fucking nightmare. So I'm
Speaker 3: way less into that idea now. And then I'm planning
Speaker 3: on taking a short holiday to Japan in the winter
Speaker 3: at some point. I have some friends that live there.
Speaker 3: I think it would be a nice time to visish
Speaker 3: and it's when the rugby season starts, so I can
Speaker 3: go watch some rugby there.
Speaker 1: Excellent, Well, I hope you enjoy that.
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Speaker 1: Hello YouTube.
Speaker 2: All right, we have a lot to get into, so
Speaker 2: let's start the morning mess with unionized staff at Call
Speaker 2: of Duty Studio Raven Software says Activision is stalling over
Speaker 2: contract talks.
Speaker 1: This is from Jordan Midler at VEGC.
Speaker 2: Unionized staff at Call of Duty Studio Raven Software have
Speaker 2: filed a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board after
Speaker 2: claims that Activision and Microsoft are stalling over contract negotiations.
Speaker 2: The complaint, as reported by game File, alleges that Activision
Speaker 2: Microsoft are guilty of refusal to bargain slash bad faith bargaining.
Speaker 2: After Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blaszard and this is a quote.
Speaker 2: Our members were optimistic that they would progress quickly to
Speaker 2: a first contract at Raven Software. CWA president Claude Cummings
Speaker 2: Junior told game File. Unfortunately that has not happened. We
Speaker 2: encourage Microsoft to address the concerns raised in the unfair
Speaker 2: labor practice charge and make reaching a fair agreement a priority.
Speaker 2: A Microsoft spokesperson told Game File, we are committed to
Speaker 2: negotiating in good faith, which is what they've said publicly.
Speaker 2: And does I mean I don't know. I guess My
Speaker 2: position on this, Lexi was always can't be as bad
Speaker 2: as Activision was under Bobby Kottick, and this still doesn't
Speaker 2: sound quite as bad as that, but it's still like, well, no,
Speaker 2: you said you were going to just like recognize everything,
Speaker 2: come to the bargaining table, do everything in obvious good faith.
Speaker 2: There will never be any issues like this. That's how
Speaker 2: you positioned this as Microsoft when this deal was going through.
Speaker 2: So any sort of like hesitation on your part is
Speaker 2: going to be very noticeable. And this seems very noticeable.
Speaker 2: But are you surprised, Lexi that we're here with a
Speaker 2: Microsoft owned app division dragging its feet with the union.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure if you watched it. Liam Robertson
Speaker 3: put up that video. You talked about the news stories
Speaker 3: that came out of it, about the Crash Spiral crossover
Speaker 3: game that was canceled and the development of crash team
Speaker 3: rumble and the picture that he painted towards the end
Speaker 3: of that of a post Bobby Cottick Microsoft owned Activision
Speaker 3: was very interesting from the point of view of it
Speaker 3: seemed very it seemed like it was in disarray. One
Speaker 3: of the stories that he told was someone who was
Speaker 3: meant to go out to GDC or something for Activision
Speaker 3: was then let go during all of the layoffs and
Speaker 3: then they were like, Hey, I paid for this flight
Speaker 3: and these GDC tickets. Can I get these reimbursed because
Speaker 3: I'm not going anymore. And the person at Activision basically
Speaker 3: said like, yeah, that's a problem for the travel department,
Speaker 3: and we laid them all off.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And so they just they had nowhere to put that complaint.
Speaker 3: And I think that that was super telling from the
Speaker 3: point of view of like, I think that we it
Speaker 3: will only be in the coming years that we will
Speaker 3: understand how messy this entire thing has been. And also,
Speaker 3: if you remember, during the court case, I listened into
Speaker 3: all of those and something that was made very clear
Speaker 3: was Microsoft would allow Activision to run as its own company,
Speaker 3: as its own corporate enter h Yes, it.
Speaker 1: Does that with a lot of these acquisitions that's right, Bush.
Speaker 3: The counterpoint to that was when Microsoft made all these
Speaker 3: layoffs Activision, or when Activision had all these layoffs, the
Speaker 3: reasoning behind it was was, well, these areas overlap with Microsoft. Yes,
Speaker 3: which those two ideas can't really the corporate word for that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: yes they were. They these people were literally made redundant.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: The idea that allowing that company to run like it's
Speaker 3: a very thought because if you say anything about this,
Speaker 3: then you are basically saying, well, did Phil Spencer lie
Speaker 3: under oath?
Speaker 4: Is the next question?
Speaker 3: And what technically is allowing a company to run on
Speaker 3: its own within another corporate structure. It's very gray and
Speaker 3: it's very hazy, all.
Speaker 2: Open to interpretation by lawyers, and that's what they would arguing,
Speaker 2: and I think they have already argued that for a
Speaker 2: couple of these issues that have come up, were Phil
Speaker 2: talked under oath and had to sort of explain away
Speaker 2: a decision that looked like it was countered there.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, when you have this case
Speaker 3: when Microsoft says, hey, we're not gonna stop anyone from unionizing,
Speaker 3: not coming to the table, or rescheduling meetings or doing this,
Speaker 3: and that you know things coming up. Sorry, man, it's
Speaker 3: just out of my hands. That in their eyes, that's
Speaker 3: not you know, that's not you know, not coming to
Speaker 3: the table. That's our life happens, guys. We're just so busy.
Speaker 3: We have like Carl of Judy coming out. You know,
Speaker 3: what's going on, you everything, you know, we will catch
Speaker 3: up next month. And so that that's obviously what they're
Speaker 3: going to say. And I think from the worker's point
Speaker 3: of view, they're going to be like, no, you said
Speaker 3: you would actually meet us at the table.
Speaker 2: And this is this is a priority to us, and
Speaker 2: and that that you have to acknowledge X that would
Speaker 2: be arguing in good faith in our opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's and that's the key thing is
Speaker 3: that it's both both of it's the opinion of the
Speaker 3: workers and then it's the opinion of a bunch of
Speaker 3: lawyers and the corporate entergy, and the corporate entity is like, well,
Speaker 3: in all opinion, we're doing as much as we can
Speaker 3: to support all workers. And it's like you're a fucking
Speaker 3: corporation and you don't have an opinion. You just do
Speaker 3: things or you don't do things. So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it's it's a super tart thing. I think it's super
Speaker 3: shitty that they're holding this up and that they're then
Speaker 3: also trying to play the card of like, well, we're
Speaker 3: doing everything we can. If they were actually committed to this,
Speaker 3: they would just facilitate it. As someone who like my dad,
Speaker 3: has worked in management for a long long time, and
Speaker 3: you know, seeing you see managers like here, and you
Speaker 3: see managers that don't, and when you see someone who
Speaker 3: like actually wants to be part of the thing and
Speaker 3: make things better for people, you see how they can
Speaker 3: make those things better. And then when you see you
Speaker 3: see like you can see right through this basically. Is
Speaker 3: what I'm saying is that like this is Microsoft saying like, hey,
Speaker 3: we did agree to this, and you know, we we
Speaker 3: agreed to a lot of things, but hey, Indiana Jones
Speaker 3: is now coming to PlayStation five, and also you know,
Speaker 3: and also and also and also, and I think that's
Speaker 3: the feeling around a lot of Microsoft at the moment
Speaker 3: is nobody really knows what is certain anymore.
Speaker 4: Within Microsoft.
Speaker 3: You talk to people who work at Microsoft studios and
Speaker 3: they don't quite know what Microsoft is guaranteeing them anymore,
Speaker 3: or what their goals are, or what is like the
Speaker 3: safety threshold for sales and things like that.
Speaker 2: They seem distracted at Microsoft for a bunch of reasons,
Speaker 2: which is like, well, a lot of the strategies haven't worked,
Speaker 2: so they seem to be actively building a new track
Speaker 2: under the train that is completely different than a many
Speaker 2: of the tracks they had previously built, and that seems
Speaker 2: to be taking up a lot of the mental resources
Speaker 2: at that company. So something like unions, which is in
Speaker 2: the moment when they're talking to the FTC, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we kind of think maybe would be best if we
Speaker 2: just recognize it and do what we're supposed to do
Speaker 2: in those situations. Sure, And then once they're faced with
Speaker 2: and Satia's called me and saying make more money, suddenly
Speaker 2: the union thing just goes out of their brain. I
Speaker 2: think it's probably that. But so what you said that
Speaker 2: you would do these things under oath, you kind of
Speaker 2: have to live up to that alongside all these other
Speaker 2: problems you're trying to solve, and and really that's no
Speaker 2: one's problem but yours. And suddenly I think the union
Speaker 2: taking this to the National Labor Relations Board uh and
Speaker 2: make it a point of it is going to sting
Speaker 2: a little bit and it's going to be the kind
Speaker 2: of thing where I won't I won't be surprised if
Speaker 2: we get comments from many of the senators and the
Speaker 2: FTC themselves about, Hey, this is we said this would happen.
Speaker 2: We said Microsoft wouldn't didn't really mean this, and Microsoft
Speaker 2: doesn't need that. They're trying to avoid that where possible.
Speaker 2: So the best thing they could do here is actually
Speaker 2: address this, and that's you know, the the union leveraging
Speaker 2: what what what, you know what it can to get
Speaker 2: the work done here, and good for them for doing that,
Speaker 2: you know it the end of the day, I still
Speaker 2: think this is better than what would have happened under
Speaker 2: Bobby Kottick.
Speaker 1: Is that good enough? No, it's it's just not.
Speaker 2: It's like they could, like the Microsoft said they were
Speaker 2: going to do something, they could still do better. They
Speaker 2: need to do better, and if they don't, they deserve
Speaker 2: to be raked over the.
Speaker 1: Coals in a lot of ways for this. All right.
Speaker 2: Microsoft is apparently working on getting Capcom Fighting Collection two
Speaker 2: on Xbox, speaking of a lot of problems for that company,
Speaker 2: a lot just frequently a lot of third party games
Speaker 2: skipping the Xbox, especially from Capcom. But on Twitter Xbox
Speaker 2: fan account Clobrial noted that the newly announced Capcom Fighting
Speaker 2: Collection two is coming to everything except for Xbox, and
Speaker 2: in response to that, Jazz Cordin from Windows Central said
Speaker 2: they're working on it. Jazz is a kind of an
Speaker 2: insider over there for Microsoft information. This is likely a
Speaker 2: reference to the challenges Capcom is faced reporting its older
Speaker 2: MT framework games to Xbox. Something it might it might
Speaker 2: have deprecated as it moved on to the RI engine.
Speaker 2: We don't know exactly what the story is there. This
Speaker 2: has been the speculation seems to line up in a
Speaker 2: lot of ways where there's a lot of games that
Speaker 2: came to like PS four and they run on PS
Speaker 2: five because of that, and that's because they kept updating
Speaker 2: MPT framework for that console and didn't do it quite
Speaker 2: as much for Xbox. And now as they continue to
Speaker 2: work on these games that don't necessarily use the RI engine,
Speaker 2: they are finding themselves being like, oh, we can't make
Speaker 2: this work on Xbox with that doing a lot of
Speaker 2: extra work, and we don't want to do that extra work.
Speaker 2: So what do you think that means? Do you think
Speaker 2: Microsoft has engineers on the ground helping Capcom? It's probably
Speaker 2: their only option, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a weird position because when you
Speaker 3: think back to the start of the console generation, Microsoft's
Speaker 3: whole thing with bringing games to the Xbox if they
Speaker 3: were running on you know, the Xbox One or whatever,
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, just fucking works, dude, It just it.
Speaker 3: You know, the cloud does you know sinks all your saves.
Speaker 3: It's it's very easy.
Speaker 4: And you know, it just kind of works.
Speaker 3: And now you're having people, you know, as they issuate
Speaker 3: on the engines because the Xbox One and the series
Speaker 3: consoles just aren't shipping as many games are like, well,
Speaker 3: is it really worth it as much for us to
Speaker 3: keep up the engine maintenance on this thing? And when
Speaker 3: that starts happened, that's a real problem, especially if there
Speaker 3: are games. If any game takes off that is running
Speaker 3: on that engine and it's that game isn't there because
Speaker 3: of that, then that's a huge problem for Microsoft. And
Speaker 3: I think, like you know, for some of the games
Speaker 3: that haven't come, you can sort of say like, well,
Speaker 3: they're pretty they're fighting games that people really wanted, but
Speaker 3: they're going to sell to the fighting game audience, and
Speaker 3: the fighting game audience has largely landed on PlayStation and Xbox.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: You look at the Fighting collection too though, and it
Speaker 3: has stuff like Powerstone, which is more of an arcady
Speaker 3: thing that you.
Speaker 2: Can have a lot of Dreamcast legacy games, and a
Speaker 2: lot of your Dreamcast fans did go to Xbox back
Speaker 2: in the day.
Speaker 1: How many have continued that process?
Speaker 2: Who knows, but but like there's reasons this game should
Speaker 2: still be on Xbox despite everything you just said, which
Speaker 2: is true. Play you know, PlayStation is fighting games now
Speaker 2: they body Evo. That's that's where that that community more
Speaker 2: mostly is. And then when they're not, they're on PC
Speaker 2: because PC is open. But it's like a death spiral
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, Like a game doesn't come
Speaker 2: to yet to Xbox because they're you know, it's not
Speaker 2: worth the squeeze, and then fewer people are looking to
Speaker 2: buy games on Xbox, and so there's less of a
Speaker 2: reason to put these games on Xbox, and then becomes.
Speaker 1: Even less worth the effort.
Speaker 2: Uh So Microsoft has has to figure something out here,
Speaker 2: and uh, I don't necessarily know what that looks like
Speaker 2: because they can't do this in every circumstance. Uh And
Speaker 2: and even when they do send ambassadors from Xbox to
Speaker 2: go help engineers at different companies figure out how to
Speaker 2: get these games on that platform in a way that
Speaker 2: is affordable and responsible. The games are they're going to
Speaker 2: come out, and is like the result going to be there,
Speaker 2: Like is anyone actually gonna end up buying these games
Speaker 2: on Xbox? And the answer is like, well, yeah, but
Speaker 2: a lot less than on other platforms.
Speaker 1: That's just been the case for many of these kinds
Speaker 1: of games.
Speaker 3: And it is like it is ultimately a little bit
Speaker 3: like embarrassing in many ways because Xbox is still making
Speaker 3: deals to get Capcom games on game.
Speaker 1: Pass right to be happy with at yeah.
Speaker 3: And they can't even get them to bring all their
Speaker 3: games to the console. Like it's a bad look ultimately, yep.
Speaker 2: I That's why it's like it makes sense that it's
Speaker 2: technology because Capcom seems completely fine with where Xbox is at,
Speaker 2: especially when an Xbox shows up with the checks for
Speaker 2: for game Pass. But yeah, this is the kind of
Speaker 2: thing where but in two years it's gonna feel if
Speaker 2: it feels super normal for things to be skipping Xbox,
Speaker 2: that is a major problem for that platform. And it's
Speaker 2: already kind of a problem and sort of an annoyance
Speaker 2: at this point, at this moment, but could blow up
Speaker 2: into something really huge for this for the for this platform.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like that was kind of the vibe
Speaker 3: around the opening night Live. Like the second biggest pop
Speaker 3: that anything got was Indiana Jones coming.
Speaker 1: To PS five yep.
Speaker 4: And that's in Europe.
Speaker 3: That's in a place where like xboxes sell pretty well,
Speaker 3: and that's not like that's wild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i mean, PlayStation does dominate Europe for the most part.
Speaker 3: Laystation like feels way better, but like it's not like
Speaker 3: the three sixty wasn't a phenomenon as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: So it's it's wild that like that was outside of
Speaker 3: like Tim Miller having his moment, which was a lovely
Speaker 3: moment in person, and that was like.
Speaker 1: It makes him weak.
Speaker 4: Sorry, you're right, you're right, he's less of a man
Speaker 4: because of it. We were all saying it in the.
Speaker 1: Crowd, of course. Everyone.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's why.
Speaker 3: We were crying. That's why he was crying. He like
Speaker 3: started to get a little bit.
Speaker 4: Choked up, and then we were like, you're not.
Speaker 2: A real man exactly, so you're very mean and appropriately
Speaker 2: so he deserved it.
Speaker 4: You directed reshoots on borderlandes What's.
Speaker 1: Wrong with yeah, you you messed up bad. He made
Speaker 1: it worse. Somehow we got we got a borderland story
Speaker 1: to everybody, don't don't you worry.
Speaker 2: Don't you worry at all. Yeah, he probably was sunglasses
Speaker 2: for his weak guys. You're right, Purple people leader, that's
Speaker 2: exactly right. Uh, all right, let's keep moving here. As
Speaker 2: Robot director rules out VR version, says he wants to
Speaker 2: hear from fans about a PC port, though this is
Speaker 2: from Jordan Miller at VGC. The creative director of Astrobot
Speaker 2: has ruled out the possibility of a PlayStation VR two version,
Speaker 2: but has kept hopes alive for.
Speaker 1: A PC port. Which got it? They better? I mean
Speaker 1: everything else gets one, but not this. Come on.
Speaker 2: Speaking to Men Max, host Ben Hanson asked creative director
Speaker 2: Nicholas Dussett. Duss if there was any interest in a
Speaker 2: VR version of Astrobot, No chance, Dust replied, it's designed
Speaker 2: for a different medium. When pressed by Hanson if there
Speaker 2: was a zero percent chance, du set reiterated that if
Speaker 2: the game was to be brought to VR, it would
Speaker 2: be a different game. Later in the interview, the possibility
Speaker 2: of a PC version was brought up with dus as
Speaker 2: with you say, asking whether he had a message for
Speaker 2: PC players keen to play the game, or saying he
Speaker 2: did have one. Well, we want to hear from you
Speaker 2: to say, replied absolutely, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Elsewhere.
Speaker 2: On the interview, how it was asked how many references
Speaker 2: Temo Sovie was not allowed to include in the game.
Speaker 1: Well, do say.
Speaker 2: It was coy about giving a specific answer. When Hanson
Speaker 2: suggested that it could could somewhere between Could it be
Speaker 2: somewhere between five or ten? He replied about that much.
Speaker 2: Astrobat will be released on September sixth. An Astrobot themed
Speaker 2: dual Sense will be released next week alongside the game
Speaker 2: I Got.
Speaker 4: You Get Your You got Yours?
Speaker 1: Got my pre order and also I said yes to
Speaker 1: Sony when they asked me about.
Speaker 2: What once I got two coming, Well, I'm very excited
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: The day those went on pre order, I was like
Speaker 3: getting a three hour bus up to Sish a deferred
Speaker 3: exam and like I was fucked, But I bought one
Speaker 3: as soon as it went live. And then when I
Speaker 3: got out of the exam, people were like, oh, this
Speaker 3: sold out here, the sold out here, and I checked
Speaker 3: like the Irish retailer and there was still in and
Speaker 3: I bought another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm like, but I got too comming.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what if I just had all four like
Speaker 2: dual sense speed astrobot controller. We did get some like
Speaker 2: first images of people get getting their hands on. I
Speaker 2: don't know where this is from, uh, but it looks
Speaker 2: real good? Is this from games? Colm the look at?
Speaker 2: Do they have the controller there? Did you get a
Speaker 2: chance to see it?
Speaker 3: I know, I don't think Sony were there in any
Speaker 3: official capacity, Like shoe Hay was running around the show
Speaker 3: doing shoe Hay stuff, but I don't think they were
Speaker 3: they were showing anything. I'm I'm curious what Chap thinks
Speaker 3: the games that they weren't allowed to reference were, or
Speaker 3: what the things that they weren't allowed to reference.
Speaker 2: The next story we have is like when they were
Speaker 2: allowed to reference, which is a little bit surprising. So yeah,
Speaker 2: well it's weird they were.
Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet that it was mainly I recently
Speaker 3: rewatched the two thousand and six press conference, and if
Speaker 3: they had, I'm willing to bet that like games totally
Speaker 3: fine real world things where like it was in embarrassing
Speaker 3: moments for Sony No No.
Speaker 2: Nine to eleven astrobot. Sure, yeah, that's listen, that's censorship.
Speaker 2: They should be allowed to reference whatever they want.
Speaker 3: But like I can imagine them being like actually made
Speaker 3: you don't mention giant enemy crabs or ridge race rember.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there's just the numbers five ninety nine just
Speaker 2: floating around there or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently this is is whoever posts this to Twitter
Speaker 2: hashtago with Sony condo trip. Maybe this is in Japan somewhere,
Speaker 2: but this is a very shiny look at the dual
Speaker 2: Sense astrobot controller, very glossy. It looks fantastic. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this thing. Cannot wait to get
Speaker 2: my hands on it. I was thinking camera, thank you Jan.
Speaker 3: And see those clasps holding onto the controller? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: I wonder if you can like buy those from anywhere
Speaker 3: because that would just be really fun to fuck with people.
Speaker 2: That I bet you could probably like secondhand Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 3: You see loads of them at like game events, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, where do you where do these? Who makes these?
Speaker 3: Where do they come from?
Speaker 2: There is a Dreamcast kiosk for sale on my Facebook
Speaker 2: mark place near me, and I want that thing real bad,
Speaker 2: but it's way too expensive.
Speaker 1: There's no way I could ever justify it. But I
Speaker 1: want one of those kiosks.
Speaker 2: I think ideally it would be the Toys r Us
Speaker 2: in sixty four launch kiosk with like the bubble that
Speaker 2: the in sixty four was in. Listen, Sean, if you
Speaker 2: want to go half season on it with me, he says,
Speaker 2: even he says, I'm going half season as I'm saying it,
Speaker 2: and he says, that's like twenty dollars.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 3: When the PS five was first coming out and they
Speaker 3: did send some of those kiosks out to places, I
Speaker 3: went to a local Smiths in Galway and for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: the only demo that they downloaded on that kiosk was
Speaker 3: Balan Wonder World.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was just someone at the store
Speaker 3: wanting to fuck with.
Speaker 2: P Yes, that's the only way that happened. Or maybe
Speaker 2: you Suzuki or Ujinaka went in there and.
Speaker 1: Just did it himself. I'm sorry to use Suzuki for
Speaker 1: implying that he was responsible for that.
Speaker 2: Different pod games don't exactly all right, Astro Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Crash Bandicoot will cameo in Astrobot despite Microsoft's Activision acquisition.
Speaker 2: This is from Jordan Miller at VGC Crash. Bandicoot will
Speaker 2: cameo as a vip bot in Astrobot despite Microsoft now
Speaker 2: owning Activision Blizzard, according to a new interview on the
Speaker 2: PlayStation blog Crash, alongside other characters with cartoony features such
Speaker 2: as the Eightes from eight Escape, will wear masks over
Speaker 2: their heads as the robot style head of astro didn't
Speaker 2: work in terms of design. Yeah, I can imagine it's
Speaker 2: like hard to make the robot look exactly like those things?
Speaker 4: Did them?
Speaker 3: Did you go back and get the helo ones that
Speaker 3: you have to like solve the victules foot.
Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of that.
Speaker 2: My kids usually like want to play that every once
Speaker 2: in a while, and that I told them there was
Speaker 2: new stuff in there. So they were searching and then
Speaker 2: they came across a couple of them and then they
Speaker 2: needed my help to actually do it. So I've done
Speaker 2: a couple can't remember who.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think they might have found the bloodborne one and
Speaker 2: they were like, what is this or shit? I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: one day you'll know one day you'll understand.
Speaker 4: What Ridge Racer one is devious.
Speaker 3: That's some proper fucking destiny like style Stantio and shooting
Speaker 3: the ground five times to trigger a thing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I like that.
Speaker 2: That's fine, Okay, I'm gonna I'm god, what a good
Speaker 2: game Astros Playroom is.
Speaker 1: I want to get back in there and find all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Marino says there's still one unreleased, so.
Speaker 3: Yes, they were doing one every month, so they'll do
Speaker 3: one probably FIRSTUS September.
Speaker 2: I like it's such a cool idea to update a
Speaker 2: game as as new stuff is coming out.
Speaker 1: Beyond Good and Evil.
Speaker 2: That remaster apparently has a small references to Beyond Good
Speaker 2: and Evil too, which is a prequel, so it makes
Speaker 2: sense story wise. Yeah, it's I like this sort of
Speaker 2: thing neat Crash Bandicoot in there.
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: That was probably planned ahead of time. Actition probably said yes.
Speaker 2: I think Microsoft would have said yes as well. They
Speaker 2: don't care keep keep Crash relevant uh and and acknowledge
Speaker 2: its history there. I don't think Microsoft would be too
Speaker 2: precious about it. They kind of can't afford to be
Speaker 2: too precious about it, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that also came up in the Liam
Speaker 3: Robertson video when they would doing.
Speaker 4: Back.
Speaker 3: I think it was sometime around twenty twenty, but after
Speaker 3: the announcement of Microsoft wants to buy Activision first came around.
Speaker 3: Boys for Bob did a cinematic that we created that
Speaker 3: scene and on Charged where Elena and Nache play Crash Bandacoosh,
Speaker 3: except it was Crash and Crash's sister playing on Charhood. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they are willing to have those back and forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of fun. That's very cool.
Speaker 2: All right, lots more headlines to come before we get
Speaker 2: to Themough, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Take a quick break, be right back after this.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're getting right back into it. Let's scrub mcgrubb
Speaker 2: just post. Is this from today?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: August twenty eighth PlayStation plus monthly games for September Quiddach Champions. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's gonna be okay interesting. I got invited to the
Speaker 2: playtest for that and it was in DA so I'm like,
Speaker 2: what am I going to do with this?
Speaker 1: I never even touched.
Speaker 2: It, but I this one where it's like, oh, it
Speaker 2: didn't seem like it was going to be too hot,
Speaker 2: and comes out and it's already in PlayStation plus whatever not.
Speaker 4: Gonna like glub.
Speaker 3: I looked at this lineup on my first thought was
Speaker 3: all the stars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, MLB, the show twenty four huge baseball fan, right Lexi?
Speaker 2: And then Little Nightmares too. People like those little Nightmare names.
Speaker 2: Probably again I've never this is not not my thing.
Speaker 2: I leave those tobaccol backl Oar handles that for me.
Speaker 2: All right, So let's get into the ones I have
Speaker 2: written down here. TSMC, the Taiwanese semiconductor manufacturing company, may
Speaker 2: increase wafer pricing by ten percent for twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: according to a report. Don't worry, everybody will walk you
Speaker 2: through what that means. The wafers are just like these
Speaker 2: big little wafer circles where all the chips, the processors
Speaker 2: that go inside most of your electronics are all built
Speaker 2: in these wafers. And these companies buy these processors by
Speaker 2: the wafer.
Speaker 1: So let's get into it.
Speaker 2: This is from Anton Shilov Shalov at Tom's Hardware. Due
Speaker 2: to the high demand for advanced processors in consumer electronics
Speaker 2: and high performance computing, TSMC is looking to hike its
Speaker 2: waighter pricing for all types of customers in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five According to a Morgan Stanley note to clients cited
Speaker 2: by Eric Johnson, who is an investor, apparently the world's
Speaker 2: largest contract contract maker of chips plans to hike its
Speaker 2: prices by up to around ten percent next year. Keep
Speaker 2: in mind that the information comes from an unofficial source,
Speaker 2: though so applied the required amount of skepticism negotiations with
Speaker 2: AI and HPC customers such as Nvidia, suggests these clients
Speaker 2: can tolerate approximately ten percent price hikes for four nanimeter
Speaker 2: class wafers, which is like not quite the newest round
Speaker 2: of processors from TSMC. They have different processes where they
Speaker 2: draw like the lithography, they actually draw the printed circuit board,
Speaker 2: and the smaller the process, the more efficient, the more
Speaker 2: powerful it is. They have three and animeter. Now four
Speaker 2: an animeter though, is probably where most of these coment
Speaker 2: manufacturers are recuse. I think they most recently put out
Speaker 2: five animeter versions. That's like the revised PlayStation Slim I
Speaker 2: think uses five nanimeter. So the next time Sony and
Speaker 2: Microsoft go back to this company and say, hey, we
Speaker 2: want to revise our systems, they're probably going to go
Speaker 2: to go four an animeter and Nintendo switch to could
Speaker 2: easily end up going with TSMC depending on what Nvidia does,
Speaker 2: and they could also use Samsung, but TSMCS by far
Speaker 2: the largest manufacturer of chips under contract. So the four
Speaker 2: and nanimeter class wafers again just a big disc that
Speaker 2: has all the processors in it like that, that's how
Speaker 2: it gets printed. It previously costed around it had a
Speaker 2: cost of eighteen thousand dollars per wafer. Next year they're
Speaker 2: going to up that to twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Dollars per wafer. As a result, the four and.
Speaker 2: Animeter and five animeter nodes primarily used by companies like
Speaker 2: AMD and Nvidia, are expected to see an eleven percent
Speaker 2: blended average selling price. This means that prices for IN
Speaker 2: four and IN five wafers may increase by approximately twenty
Speaker 2: five percent since Q one twenty twenty one, at least
Speaker 2: for some customers. And you got to keep in mind
Speaker 2: the price gets passed on d AMD, then AMD passes
Speaker 2: the price onto Microsoft and Sony, and then yes, Sony
Speaker 2: and Microsoft are very likely going to pass those price
Speaker 2: increases on to all of us. Now, maybe some of
Speaker 2: the recent price increases that they've done around the world
Speaker 2: is in anticipation of this, but likely not. I think
Speaker 2: it's that has to do with the reality on the
Speaker 2: ground in the moment. And if these prices go up
Speaker 2: next year, uh, it's it's going to it's you, We're
Speaker 2: all going to feel it. So uh, if price decreases,
Speaker 2: we're off the table already, LEXI. What's gonna happen now
Speaker 2: when these things come out? When these wafers go up
Speaker 2: in price and these companies are looking like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: now we're losing money on a console again that is
Speaker 2: in the sixth year of its life cycle or whatever
Speaker 2: fifth sixth year of its life cycle, They're gonna bulk
Speaker 2: at that and probably find more ways to charge us
Speaker 2: more money for this hardware.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean, Bob, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: As soon as you started talking, all I could think was, boy,
Speaker 3: you should kind of take about a game speed.
Speaker 4: But you can't take game speed out of go oh.
Speaker 1: That's right, this is this my shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I do think that. Yeah, that like
Speaker 3: Topps five Pro is totally going to be like six
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It's going to be real thinned.
Speaker 2: I think it's like it'd be very surprising if it
Speaker 2: was anything below six fifty. I think six Getting that
Speaker 2: thing for six hundred dollars feels like it would be a.
Speaker 1: Big win, honestly.
Speaker 2: So uh, and these companies just don't seem to be
Speaker 2: in the mood of leaving that money on the table.
Speaker 2: I think both Microsoft and Sony regret the chicken game
Speaker 2: that they played leading up to the launch of the
Speaker 2: PS five and the Xbox Series X, where they're like
Speaker 2: they lay waited till the very last minute to announce
Speaker 2: the price on those things. And people always have this
Speaker 2: idea of a thing costs this much. They know how
Speaker 2: much they're going to charge us, and that's just not
Speaker 2: how it works. It always works as they charge what
Speaker 2: they can get away with. And when they had a
Speaker 2: direct competitor, when these two companies are looking at one another,
Speaker 2: they are very worried that the other one's going to
Speaker 2: undercut them. That's the thing keeping the price down. And
Speaker 2: so it seemed like they both blinked at the same
Speaker 2: time and said, okay.
Speaker 1: Five hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: And then as soon as they got a month into
Speaker 2: the console generation and they saw how the things were
Speaker 2: selling and how people were freaking out, and then the
Speaker 2: pandemic really amplified that.
Speaker 1: Both companies I think are like, we should have at
Speaker 1: least charged charged to.
Speaker 2: Six hundred dollars for these things, and maybe even seven hundred,
Speaker 2: I think is what they were thinking. So with that
Speaker 2: lesson very fresh in their minds and the cost of
Speaker 2: components going up, the factors are ripe for them to
Speaker 2: come out with new Like obviously a PS five pro
Speaker 2: going to be announced any minute now, and then PS
Speaker 2: six and a new Xbox are not going to be
Speaker 2: that far behind that prices seem like they are. I mean,
Speaker 2: just anything below five hundred seems impossible. Now six hundred
Speaker 2: and above seems like the range they're going to be in,
Speaker 2: and I think they will try to get away with
Speaker 2: as much as they can. And the reality is Xbox
Speaker 2: might be like saying, hey, going ahead to head and
Speaker 2: competing with PlayStation doesn't make sense for us anymore. Maybe
Speaker 2: we should have something that feels different, feels me even
Speaker 2: more premium in a lot of ways, so we could
Speaker 2: charge even more. And then that sort of causes both
Speaker 2: companies and be like, there is no direct comparison competitor anymore,
Speaker 2: we should charge what we think we can get away
Speaker 2: with because we're not worried about being undercut anymore. So
Speaker 2: I just it feels like higher prices are coming our way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like this has the potential to go
Speaker 3: really ugly real quick when the PS five Pro does
Speaker 3: get announced from the point of view of people don't
Speaker 3: have a.
Speaker 4: Lot of money right now, and trying to.
Speaker 3: Position a PS five Pro to anyone is way less
Speaker 3: easy than it was with the PS four Pro because
Speaker 3: the what they're selling is in something that I can
Speaker 3: just explain in a sentence. It's not something I can
Speaker 3: be like, oh, you know how or TV is ten ADP,
Speaker 3: Well this is going to be the next step up,
Speaker 3: you know, and that that's all that like someone needs
Speaker 3: to hear and then be like, okay, sure we'll get that.
Speaker 3: Instead I'm like, yeah, well, like it's rasterizing some shit,
Speaker 3: and like the fucking ray tracing is gonna be like
Speaker 3: twenty five percent better, And then they're gonna be like,
Speaker 3: what's ray tracing? And I'm gonna be like, so have
Speaker 3: you played Minecraft? And it's gonna be a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I think that what they it is
Speaker 3: reality that those things are getting more expensive. That's just reality.
Speaker 3: But it's also reality that people have less money to
Speaker 3: spend on these things, and they're less willing to spend ish.
Speaker 3: That's why people are only spending money on the games
Speaker 3: that they've been playing for six years now, because they
Speaker 3: have all this stuff built up up in ISH and
Speaker 3: they know Fortnite's skin prices aren't gonna go up because
Speaker 3: they can't put them up. And like, I don't think
Speaker 3: that the adoption rate of a PS five pro is
Speaker 3: gonna be what they wanted to be like that, those
Speaker 3: adoption rates are usually pretty low anyway, for the PS
Speaker 3: five or for the PS four pro.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like.
Speaker 1: Dupahaly the standard vanilla system.
Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, but I think that like if this
Speaker 3: could if this goes badly, they wind up with a
Speaker 3: shitload of stuck again like the PSV or two, and
Speaker 3: I don't think they are maybe quite aware of how
Speaker 3: likely it is for that to be the outcome. And
Speaker 3: then when you go into the next generation, you have
Speaker 3: to wonder, well, what's the approach then, Is it, well,
Speaker 3: people aren't spending money, so we make these consoles cheaper
Speaker 3: and we make them less powerful, or is it. Okay,
Speaker 3: we turn these into boutique isisims and that's kind of
Speaker 3: the two directions that we'll be able to go in.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's going to be a very weird thing.
Speaker 3: Like I'm at the point where if this thing is
Speaker 3: like six fifty seven hundred, like you're that seven hundred dollars,
Speaker 3: then I'll be like eight hundred yeo, And then like
Speaker 3: fucking I'm not what are you on about?
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, it's it's a weird time because you're
Speaker 2: right people, I mean, I think you laid out perfectly.
Speaker 2: People are more price sensitive than they've been in a
Speaker 2: long time, and it's like that's a lesson that took
Speaker 2: a few years to really kind of get beaten into Americans, specifically,
Speaker 2: where consumer spending remained abnormally high even though all the
Speaker 2: indicators are like people should be saving more, they're not.
Speaker 2: And I think now it's like even Americans are looking
Speaker 2: around being like, I want to save some money. I
Speaker 2: want I'm gonna skip a couple purchases that normally I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought twice about. And at the same time,
Speaker 2: everything is telling these companies to raise prices.
Speaker 3: So John, what it is is that the pandemic ended
Speaker 3: and people remembered like, hey, it's nice to.
Speaker 1: Go on holiday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and so suddenly people are like, maybe we
Speaker 3: should save for that during the pandemic. Why would you
Speaker 3: save for a fucking holiday down the East coast or
Speaker 3: to another country when you know you're not allowed leave
Speaker 3: your fucking stage, Like why? So like, yeah, I think
Speaker 3: people realize that, like, oh shit, there are things to
Speaker 3: say for. They people forgot that there were things to
Speaker 3: save for because every day felt the exact fucking same,
Speaker 3: so you may as well get something new today to
Speaker 3: make it feel slightly different. And now like, yeah, it's biging,
Speaker 3: it's biting a lot of these companies in the asses.
Speaker 2: Yep, and it's and what's even happening now is like
Speaker 2: our V sales were sky high right after the pandemic
Speaker 2: and then the recreational vehicles and then they have dropped
Speaker 2: off obscenely, like it's just completely crashed. And I think
Speaker 2: that's an indication of like, Okay, yeah, people had the money,
Speaker 2: they went out and spend it to have an experience,
Speaker 2: and now things that were turning to normal. But then
Speaker 2: that cash that they were spending on all those other
Speaker 2: versions of entertainment and adventures and experiences is not suddenly
Speaker 2: flooding back into games. It's actually people cutting back for real,
Speaker 2: and now here we are.
Speaker 3: With that like idea in mind, something that I was
Speaker 3: thinking a lot about games. Colm was looking at two
Speaker 3: K slash. They have borderlines for they have GGA six,
Speaker 3: and they have Civilization Devin, all ostensibly coming within the
Speaker 3: next fiscal year or so. They have a situation similar
Speaker 3: to like pandemic growth, where they have such an abnormal
Speaker 3: year of massive growth and sales that when things go
Speaker 3: back down to normal, things get really messy for them potentially.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, the good news for them
Speaker 2: is if they do hit well with whatever GT Online
Speaker 2: two is, or however they follow that up, the next
Speaker 2: year could be just as big or bigger, and frankly
Speaker 2: they'll find ways to you know, because they'll they'll release
Speaker 2: it on PC, they'll do a PC port, and then
Speaker 2: very soon after that there will be some new console
Speaker 2: to take advantage of and they'll release it again. So
Speaker 2: that's GTA that will help them get through that. There's
Speaker 2: a chance though, that some of that stuff misses right,
Speaker 2: so and then it'll be a very tough comparison. But
Speaker 2: that is, like, you know, for a company, that's future
Speaker 2: companies problem. Right now, we can have our best year ever.
Speaker 2: That is is what investors want to hear, and that's
Speaker 2: what we want, what we want to tell investors, so
Speaker 2: they don't care.
Speaker 1: They're not worried about that yet. All right, let's see here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I could talk about yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, real quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, now it's time to talk about the real news.
Speaker 3: Because I looked at the next news story. It's it's
Speaker 3: the real news. Like it's it's important. Yep, this is
Speaker 3: what's important.
Speaker 1: This is what's important.
Speaker 2: The Borderlands movie is getting a digital release just three
Speaker 2: weeks after its cinema release. Here it is everybody from
Speaker 2: Chris going at VGC. The border Lands movie is gonna
Speaker 2: be at home. The film will be available to buy
Speaker 2: or rent on streaming platforms like Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV,
Speaker 2: and Google Play starting on Friday, August thirty. If that's right,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make everyone at Pax West watch this with me.
Speaker 2: I will no longer have to suffer alone. It will
Speaker 2: cost twenty five dollars to purchase twenty dollars to rent.
Speaker 2: Given that the movie's theatric release was August ninth. That
Speaker 2: means the film has gone from cinema to digital in
Speaker 2: just three weeks, which, oh boy, I mean honestly sounds
Speaker 2: about right for what this game is done.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So someone who like actually likes the Borderlands franchise mainly
Speaker 3: because of like when I played it, but also genuinely
Speaker 3: thinks there's some good things in there. This whole movie
Speaker 3: experience has been fucking incredible. It's been so much, it's
Speaker 3: been so funny. So the day I went to sit
Speaker 3: that exam and I bought those two controllers, I was
Speaker 3: also like, right, I'm done college. How do I celebrate?
Speaker 3: And I have a friend in Galway who is also
Speaker 3: a games journalist, who Anna and Bevan. She works at
Speaker 3: the Gamer. I was like, Hey, Rhannon, do you want
Speaker 3: to go see the Borderlands movie?
Speaker 4: And she was like not really, let's go.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
Speaker 3: When we went together and in a theater that sat
Speaker 3: maybe like fifteen twenty people, there was like maybe ten
Speaker 3: people there.
Speaker 4: This was opening nighte it was in the smallest theater
Speaker 4: in the cinema.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And during the entire runtime there was maybe one
Speaker 3: person that left out her huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not very good and not funny boy.
Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where it's like very much
Speaker 2: like Balan's Wonder World, where when I hear people kind
Speaker 2: of like gently defend it, I'm like, we don't.
Speaker 1: Need to do this.
Speaker 2: If you want to say people worked hard on it
Speaker 2: and you feel for them, I let's let's have that conversation.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 2: But the idea that like there is some joy to
Speaker 2: be had from this movie or it's not as bad
Speaker 2: as some other movies, so maybe people are overreacting.
Speaker 1: That's just wrong. I saw it. I know what I
Speaker 1: experienced and felt, and it was pain.
Speaker 3: It is going to be a really interesting bell Weather
Speaker 3: because I think it was someone who worked at Larry
Speaker 3: and their marketing person who.
Speaker 4: Brought it up.
Speaker 3: But like Google gives priority to movies over games when
Speaker 3: you search word right, and so if you now just
Speaker 3: search Borderlands, the first thing that comes up isn't the
Speaker 3: game franchise, isn't the first game.
Speaker 4: It is the nine percent or on ordered.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're gonna be able to ever undo that,
Speaker 2: and I know, well, I don't know. I have a
Speaker 2: hunch that Randy Pittrid is someone who like pays attention
Speaker 2: to that sort of thing. When Jordy Miller was on here,
Speaker 2: we always talk about how we each of our sites.
Speaker 2: I gamed back when I was a games beating him
Speaker 2: at VGC had a Randy Pittord story that just always
Speaker 2: seems to do some traffic and we're like, is he
Speaker 2: just like paying to get that on out kick or
Speaker 2: some bullshit? And I think that's exactly what he's still in.
Speaker 3: So yeah, So, like I feel bad for everyone working
Speaker 3: on Borderlands four because like genuinely the sentiment around the
Speaker 3: Boardlands community for that game is, hey, guys, Randy was
Speaker 3: in Hollywood. Maybe this one will be better than three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, maybe it will be. People wanted to be good,
Speaker 1: so yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to be good. I would love a
Speaker 3: good Borderlands game. I thought Tiny Teeners Wonderlands was like
Speaker 3: way better than I had any right to be and
Speaker 3: like actually somewhat compelling, and they fucked it in a
Speaker 3: few places, but they always fucking in a few places.
Speaker 3: But like, boy, that series has so much baggage now
Speaker 3: that even people who like ish are like don't feel
Speaker 3: good about it.
Speaker 2: So yep, all right, I got a couple of sneaky headlines.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put in here. It's mostly for Shan who's
Speaker 2: doing headlines.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Retroid Pocket five has been teased, and it looks really sleek,
Speaker 2: looks really good. They you know, it's a tease. They
Speaker 2: have not told us much about it, but they have.
Speaker 2: They did recently also announce the Retroid Retroid Pocket Mini,
Speaker 2: and they've now said that thing is gonna have a
Speaker 2: snap Dragon processor, so they might have some very powerful
Speaker 2: hardware in these things going forward. For people that aren't
Speaker 2: aware or haven't paid too much attention to this, Retroid
Speaker 2: has done a lot of Android gaming handhelds that people
Speaker 2: used to play a lot of emulators. It's not like
Speaker 2: it necessarily an amberdick that's just gonna come with a
Speaker 2: bunch of games pre installed or something like that. Retroids
Speaker 2: is a little bit more above board, but it you know,
Speaker 2: it uses it has an Android interface, so it has
Speaker 2: all the emulators you can get on your phone, but
Speaker 2: usually have pretty good screens and they have. I really
Speaker 2: like the way that the controls feel on these things,
Speaker 2: and this thing, yeah, just again looks really sleek. So
Speaker 2: I am at a point where it's like, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't need too many more of these handhelds. But now
Speaker 2: that they're doing handhelds with bigger screens and more power, again,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, maybe it's time to start paying attention.
Speaker 2: And again this one looks like maybe it could be
Speaker 2: the one for me. Where are you at with these handhelds?
Speaker 3: Has anyone told Greg Miller that they're still making PSVs?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I think if I just handed this tuom
Speaker 2: and said here's a new psveta, he wouldn't know. He's
Speaker 2: just a sweet little console baby. We'll go at Greg
Speaker 2: in a second, because there's another story here.
Speaker 1: Actually, let's just do that now. Let's see here. Star
Speaker 1: Wars out Okay, yeah, I'm all accept your cookies.
Speaker 2: Star Wars Outlaws PS five players ask to start all
Speaker 2: new saved to avoid progression blocking bugs.
Speaker 1: This is what you get with consoles.
Speaker 2: You can't edit your saves, you can't go download mods
Speaker 2: to fix these things.
Speaker 1: You're at the whim of Sony.
Speaker 2: It's like you're playing bumper bowling and you damn little
Speaker 2: sweet little idiots can't handle this, So just restart the
Speaker 2: game because we don't. We have no other solution for you.
Speaker 2: Good luck with that bucket dweebs console nerds. That's why
Speaker 2: we're not going to game Spot so I can say
Speaker 2: the F word more often. Fucking loser, Greg Miller, restart
Speaker 2: your game. Actually, he doesn't even like the game, so
Speaker 2: he's not gonna restart it. Yeah, whatever, all right, we'll
Speaker 2: get back on to it. Kroc Legends of the Gobos
Speaker 2: remaster announced for consoles PC alongside Argonaut Argonaut Games is revival.
Speaker 1: Let's see here.
Speaker 2: This is from Salramano at Gamatsu. Argonaut Games, a British
Speaker 2: game developer founded in nineteen eighty two by Jazz San
Speaker 2: and closed down in October two thousand and four, has
Speaker 2: announced its revival alongside a remastered version of Kroc Legend
Speaker 2: of the Gobos do out for all the.
Speaker 1: Current consoles and PC in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Known for titles like Star Glider, Star Glider two, Starfox,
Speaker 2: Kroc Legends of the Gobos and Kroc two, Argonaut Games
Speaker 2: released its last game in two thousand and four, and
Speaker 2: it's down making a comeback as a boutique publisher with
Speaker 2: a planned to slate of classic Argonaut Games, intellectual properties
Speaker 2: and exciting new titles for both current and retro game
Speaker 2: platforms Its first title is the remaster version of Kroc
Speaker 2: Legend of the Gobos, which first launched for the original
Speaker 2: PlayStation in September nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Were you ever a Kroc person in your entire life?
Speaker 3: I was not, But I sent this to one of
Speaker 3: my friends, Mollie Pritchard, who's a guide rider over your gamer,
Speaker 3: and she is very excited as someone who really liked
Speaker 3: that cow Ko the Kangaroo game that.
Speaker 1: Lea Ko Ko the Kangaroo.
Speaker 4: Yes, Grub.
Speaker 3: I have two questions to you about Argonage One. Do
Speaker 3: you know what their final game released was?
Speaker 1: Okay, the final game from Argonaut? I don't I so technically.
Speaker 3: Technically, Argonaut's most recently released game is South Fox two
Speaker 3: that came.
Speaker 4: Out in twenty thirty.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3: But the final game they released before being showed down
Speaker 3: was Catwoman the game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, a future black club game for sure?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Also, do you want to know what this means? Do
Speaker 3: you want to know what we have now unlocked the
Speaker 3: possibility of achieving in a future.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a buck Bumble remaster.
Speaker 4: Buck Bumble.
Speaker 1: Argonaut Games did make buck Bumble.
Speaker 2: I know this because I just got it loaded up,
Speaker 2: and I saw the Argonaut thing the the splash screen,
Speaker 2: and then I saw the story and I'm like, where
Speaker 2: did I just see Argonaut?
Speaker 1: Why was that in my head? And then I put
Speaker 1: two and two together.
Speaker 4: Bee Week?
Speaker 1: It's Bee Week. Everybody they saved this news from B week.
Speaker 1: Buck Bumble is back. Maybe actually maybe not.
Speaker 2: It's back on this side at least, so everybody, briggity
Speaker 2: buck Bumble.
Speaker 1: I never played Crack. I don't know. Maybe I like
Speaker 1: rented it at some point.
Speaker 2: Maybe I did play it at some point, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember playing it. Is it like Chad? Is it
Speaker 2: something a game that people think is any good? I
Speaker 2: look at it and it looks kind of fun in
Speaker 2: this trailer. I'll try to bring that up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was, Yeah, Marino mentioned it in chat.
Speaker 3: The one Argonaut game I have played is that Bionical game,
Speaker 3: which is pretty okay.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, it's yeah.
Speaker 2: And these these, for you guys, look very rare coded.
Speaker 2: They got the big Google eyes. Oh yeah, all this stuff,
Speaker 2: so it looks it's britt It's a British, right, That's
Speaker 2: what this is. It's this is a British art style.
Speaker 3: Man, this is a British art style. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just weird. How much, Yeah, it's weird. How much
Speaker 3: this looks like ukulele even now?
Speaker 2: Right exactly they had they had one art artist and
Speaker 2: in all of the of the Britain, and they shared
Speaker 2: them among among all the studios making platformers back then.
Speaker 1: It looks like, uh, yeah, wasn't it tank controls?
Speaker 2: They're probably going to update that, although I don't hate
Speaker 2: tank controls, although maybe for a platformer I do. So
Speaker 2: we'll see, U I'll play this. I have a fondness
Speaker 2: for that era of three D platformer. So shout outs
Speaker 2: to Argonaut Games for the revival.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see, we're gonna skip this last story,
Speaker 1: but we'll just say it real quick.
Speaker 2: Blue Protocol, that game that Amazon Games was going to
Speaker 2: port from Japan and release everywhere is actually getting shut
Speaker 2: down in Japan and won't come out worldwide. Oh, some
Speaker 2: onely gonna bring it up to be like I think
Speaker 2: Amazon Games is talking about switch to because stuff like
Speaker 2: this was not gonna work for them, so they're like,
Speaker 2: maybe we'll make some real games for real consoles instead
Speaker 2: of just trying to make a game from another country
Speaker 2: work here because the game wasn't even gonna work in
Speaker 2: that country.
Speaker 3: So the Amazon Games continues to be one of the
Speaker 3: like wildest endeavors to try to track down, like, hey.
Speaker 4: What do you actually eat?
Speaker 3: What are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because like you're making two MMOs right now that look
Speaker 3: the exact fucking same. They're making New World and they're
Speaker 3: making something called like Sword and Blade or something, and
Speaker 3: it's basically the same, right And I have no idea
Speaker 3: what they're anyway.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's it's a weird, weird thing. I don't know
Speaker 1: what else.
Speaker 2: They can have a lot of money, though, so if
Speaker 2: they want to publish some other kinds of games that like,
Speaker 2: if they're they're gonna look at like Wukong and stuff
Speaker 2: like that and be like maybe we should be like
Speaker 2: looking for a Chinese developer and bring their game worldwide
Speaker 2: and yeah, whatever, go for that. I don't care, all right,
Speaker 2: Poll question, let's get to that real quick.
Speaker 1: I have that over here. I mean refresh and vote
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, refresh, there we go.
Speaker 1: Are you going to play Star Wars Outlaws?
Speaker 2: Eighteen percent said yes, forty five percent said I'll wait
Speaker 2: for a sale, and thirty.
Speaker 1: Seven percent said no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that sounds about right, Honestly, nearly twenty percent
Speaker 2: one in five saying yes. It's a pretty high number
Speaker 2: for any new game that has like a review score
Speaker 2: below eighty, where it's like that makes it like people
Speaker 2: could just go, well, yeah, I want to try that
Speaker 2: because it's a good game. When it's like maybe it's
Speaker 2: a good game, or maybe it'll be good for me. Still,
Speaker 2: having one in five of four point five thousand votes,
Speaker 2: that's a pretty good number.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say something.
Speaker 3: Lexi, I've been trying to get review code for that.
Speaker 3: It's been It's been fun. I've been trying to get
Speaker 3: review code for a couple of things, and boy, being
Speaker 3: a small outlet or running a small outlet and being
Speaker 3: a freelancer was fun. The thing I was gonna say was,
Speaker 3: do you think one of the things that that they
Speaker 3: weren't allowed to putting Astrobot was what's his name?
Speaker 4: The guy who did all the ads for them for someone.
Speaker 1: Kevin Butler?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken, Yeah, they were totally gonna have a Kevin
Speaker 3: Butler fucking.
Speaker 2: They as they did, they sue him for doing ads
Speaker 2: for someone else.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did ads for someone else and they sued.
Speaker 3: Him No, it was like something really fucking obscure.
Speaker 1: It was weird.
Speaker 3: Why are you, like, yeah, why are you doing ads
Speaker 3: for a local business as Kevin Butler?
Speaker 1: Right, it was really strange.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, fair enough, You're probably not Kevin Butler.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 2: They should get over it because I love Kevin Butler.
Speaker 2: That was a fun advertising campaign.
Speaker 4: It was Bridgestone.
Speaker 2: It was Bridgetone Tires. Okay, bring back Kevin Butler Bridge, don't.
Speaker 2: The gate was overblown. I have a new pool question.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that here in a second. Before we
Speaker 2: do that, though, Lex tell people where they can find
Speaker 2: you on the internet, what you have going on, all
Speaker 2: that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I'm very busy at the moment. I finally
Speaker 3: got my computer back from repairs.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Asis.
Speaker 3: Your fucking repair system fucking sucks, Bush.
Speaker 4: I will be streaming tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stream some of that new Castlevania game that
Speaker 3: is within the Castlevania Dominus collection. I played about fifteen
Speaker 3: minutes of it and it's fucking awesome. It's really cool.
Speaker 3: They've basically just made they just made a new Castlevania
Speaker 3: in the style of like the nes Castlevanias.
Speaker 4: It's great it's so cool.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And then I have a bunch of pieces
Speaker 3: going up across Shack News and Push Square. I will
Speaker 3: be in the next issue of Play Magazine. I am
Speaker 3: in the current issue of Play Magazine and you can
Speaker 3: see you. I also run start Menu, which is a
Speaker 3: website for young people trying to break into the games
Speaker 3: and especially as journalists. That website was kind of on
Speaker 3: ice a little bit, as I didn't have access to
Speaker 3: anything that could upload pieces, which was deeply frustrating.
Speaker 4: But it is back now.
Speaker 3: We are going to get things running again and we're
Speaker 3: looking at the future at that site now that I
Speaker 3: am fully finished college and I'm done my last exam,
Speaker 3: and whether there's any way that I can set up
Speaker 3: Patreon or if I can find a future for it,
Speaker 3: and what that looks like. So if you're interested in that,
Speaker 3: let me know and you can find that ash v
Speaker 3: start Menu on Twitter and then you can find me
Speaker 3: and basically LEXI both spelled with eyes at the end
Speaker 3: on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Sorry, you guys heard a Kevin Butler there for a second.
Speaker 2: I'm playing the Bridge Stone ad in the background now
Speaker 2: so people can see it. Apparently he was They were
Speaker 2: given away a Wii, so their Nintendo was involved. There
Speaker 2: was a bridgetone ad and that's why it was like
Speaker 2: such a weird thing. Yeah, fair enough, Kevin Butler, you
Speaker 2: do your thing. Yeah, hey, Lexi, whenever you figure out
Speaker 2: what's going on with all that stuff and let us know.
Speaker 1: But come on the show. We'll let you kind of
Speaker 1: talk about it. Here. Get more people like checking that
Speaker 1: stuff out because it's it's good work.
Speaker 2: I appreciate any time people that are trying to break
Speaker 2: in the industry have anywhere they can get their voice started.
Speaker 1: So good work you're doing over there.
Speaker 2: All right, let's see here new poll question. Do you
Speaker 2: wish Astrobot would have a VR mode?
Speaker 1: Yes or no?
Speaker 2: Just interested to see if, like, you know, it's you know,
Speaker 2: the one of the like Mount Rushmore PSVR games for sure,
Speaker 2: that Astrobot Rescue Mission and so is any of that
Speaker 2: like lingering to people like still say, well that's the
Speaker 2: VR game I love so much. I wish that would
Speaker 2: just come back, or is it like no, I don't,
Speaker 2: I don't care at all. I'm gonna be interested to
Speaker 2: see the results on that. Speaking of those results, we'll
Speaker 2: get it on Games Mornings on Giant Bomb tomorrow, speaking
Speaker 2: of Giant Bomb later today, it is a B light club.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do that around that's nine to forty five ish,
Speaker 2: uh Pacific time. That'll be like ten twelve forty five
Speaker 2: ish Eastern. So hearing about forty five minutes, Jan's gonna
Speaker 2: get started with that. I'll be hanging out, We'll get
Speaker 2: some stuff going. Should be a good time. We're gon
Speaker 2: we're gonna just do a bunch of different B related games.
Speaker 2: And then the reason we're doing that at that time
Speaker 2: is because we do think blight clubs should be back today.
Speaker 1: Now the issue is.
Speaker 4: It's still today.
Speaker 2: Well, Dad's still having some some problems with having energy
Speaker 2: come to his home. It sounds like a real nightmare.
Speaker 2: It's been out for a very long time. And uh
Speaker 2: any like listen, anytime powers out for like more than
Speaker 2: like four or five hours, it becomes like just exponentially worse.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you can't do anything. Everything's breaking. Uh.
Speaker 2: So he's trying to find a way to get into
Speaker 2: a some sort of studio somewhere. I thought, I'm like
Speaker 2: try the public library or something. It's like he wasn't
Speaker 2: able to book a conference room for long enough, so
Speaker 2: he's looking for some solution. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: could find one, we will, we will do it. I'm
Speaker 2: telling him we can call an audible, but he really
Speaker 2: wants to do it. So that's why we're actually trying,
Speaker 2: still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, well, but I know why he really
Speaker 4: wants to do it.
Speaker 1: I know he yeah.
Speaker 4: We I got home.
Speaker 3: I got back to my airbnb at like one in
Speaker 3: the morning the night he told me, and I was like,
Speaker 3: I have to find some gameplayer this and one. Finding
Speaker 3: gay player that game really fucking hard. Yep, like finding
Speaker 3: documented video footage of it. You can find a couple
Speaker 3: of trailers, but finding video footage. When I finally did, oh.
Speaker 2: Boy, yeah, oooh boy, you have to like go like
Speaker 2: find a YouTuber specifically making a video about that version
Speaker 2: of that game.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. I just can't wait. It's uh
Speaker 2: it for us. It feels targeted from orbit to hit
Speaker 2: Mike Manatti right in the spot he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be hit, which is we waggle weird controls. So really
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I hope we can make it
Speaker 2: happen today. If we can't, honestly, might be an issue
Speaker 2: to do it next week too, well, no, and next
Speaker 2: week should be fine, so it'll be the week after
Speaker 2: that that could be a problem.
Speaker 1: So either this week or.
Speaker 2: Next week we should be back with Blake Club's first
Speaker 2: episode of the new season. You're not gonna want to
Speaker 2: miss it because Mike will have to. You'll find out
Speaker 2: with Mike what his game's gonna be. So really looking
Speaker 2: forward to that. In addition, there will be a Yes
Speaker 2: Pax Swest is coming up on Friday. Will be there,
Speaker 2: many of us will be there. We have a panel
Speaker 2: on Saturday, panel on Sunday. Some of those details are
Speaker 2: out there as far as I understand, it's like twelve
Speaker 2: thirty ish on each day we will have. On the
Speaker 2: first day, I think we're going to be doing the
Speaker 2: BombCast Reventions episode, and then on Sunday, I think we're
Speaker 2: doing Blake Club, but those things could still change last
Speaker 2: minute is what we've been hearing, so we'll see how
Speaker 2: it's all going to go down on and then Voicemail
Speaker 2: Dump Truck on Thursday, we turned to the biggest be
Speaker 2: we know, Ben Pack is going to be there everybody,
Speaker 2: so you want to listen to that. The original driver
Speaker 2: of the dump truck and then yeah, on Friday, Jan
Speaker 2: and crew probably probably some of the GB kids will.
Speaker 1: Be hanging out to do some upf and things like that,
Speaker 1: so gonna be a fun week.
Speaker 2: Still plenty more to come for B week, so look
Speaker 2: out for all of that. It was a good BombCast
Speaker 2: yesterday GMM from earlier this week as well. All right, LEXI,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for hanging out with me today
Speaker 2: and talking about video games. I really appreciate.
Speaker 4: It anytime, GUB anytime.
Speaker 2: And thank you all for listening. Thank you all for watching.
Speaker 2: You're the best audience in gaming. Love doing the show,
Speaker 2: and we're doing it. We've been doing it a while now.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of episodes of this show, and every
Speaker 2: day I still wake up and I can't wait to
Speaker 2: do it because of you all. So let's keep it going.
Speaker 2: Hopefully see all at packs East. Until then, have a
Speaker 2: good one, take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: Goodbye,