WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:14.240 He'll be don't be bad. It's the Internet. You're busy. 2 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.199 Let's do this for August twenty eighth, twenty twenty four. 3 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.160 For the next hour or so, let me help you 4 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:22.000 sort through the world of gaming on Game Mess Mornings 5 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:25.120 Live with me Jeff Grubb. Today is the new is 6 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:28.120 the new activision under Microsoft, still dragging its feet about unions, 7 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:31.839 Astrobot won't get ported to VR, and consoles may get 8 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.719 even more expensive here pretty soon. But first please join 9 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:38.679 me and welcome in today's co host to Game Mess Mornings. 10 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.759 It's lex Luddie. Everybody, Lexie, how are you doing? 11 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:45.079 You know, having just done a bunch of travel this summer, 12 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.079 I was just thinking things are getting way too cheap, 13 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:47.640 you know. 14 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:53.759 Yeah right, it's the too flush with cash, well mostly coins, 15 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:57.280 pennies mostly, but hey, yeah, I gotta. 16 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:58.880 Do something with that stuff. Might as well give it to. 17 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:03.479 A corporation, is what I always say. You were at 18 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.159 games Com. Sounds like it was a good time, sounds 19 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:09.439 like it was a busy time, and you were just 20 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.719 telling me you got you have like seventeen things you 21 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:13.239 have to you still have to ride or have you 22 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:14.439 have you crossed. 23 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:17.200 Any awful list? Yet have you made progress on that progress? 24 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:20.599 I currently have like two pieces posted. You can go 25 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.000 read my Monster Hunter impressions and you can go read 26 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.359 my Phantom Blade zero impressions. All right, and push the 27 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.480 Layer and Shock News respectively. 28 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:29.920 It's a Fantom Blade zero, the next game that's going 29 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:30.760 to destroy the woke. 30 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:35.159 I don't think so, because it's not really a video 31 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:39.200 game yet. It's like, okay, fine, it's like, hey, here's 32 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:41.560 three combat and encounters we made. By the way, this 33 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:45.519 game is coming out in twenty twenty six at the earliest. Anyway, Okay, gotcha, Okay, 34 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:50.560 very cool. But it plays great, it feels fantastic, It's interesting. 35 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.439 I'm curious about it. I've played it twice now, both 36 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:57.359 at Summer Games First and Games Calm, and then I've 37 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.680 like submitted like three or four other pieces, and then 38 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.359 I just have a load of fucking interviews to transcribe. 39 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:06.319 I met Suda fifty one and Shinji mccamie. I can 40 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:09.680 say that and have some interesting stuff from that that 41 00:02:09.759 --> 00:02:11.960 I might get a new story out of, so I'll 42 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:16.919 be cool. And obviously I met my very good friend, 43 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:18.960 my excellent friend. 44 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.120 Oh that's that's a great and did he really start, Oh, 45 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.759 that's right, because you had the ticket under the seat, 46 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:28.560 you won the golden ticket. 47 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:29.800 I want to. 48 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:32.800 Know what happened for any podcast listeners. 49 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.719 I just held up a four x three of Jeff 50 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:39.280 Keeley's face back from when he hosted the Spike Video 51 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.000 Game Awards. By the looks of this picture, which is 52 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:48.639 signed in like block letters, which is okay. So yeah, 53 00:02:48.719 --> 00:02:54.479 basically what happened was at Opening Night Live. A couple 54 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:56.280 of friends of mine went to dev Calm, which is 55 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.280 kind of like the dev show before Games Calm, and 56 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:01.759 so they were at the clone messer before everyone else 57 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:02.800 and they were like, hey, do you want to come 58 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:04.319 up to the top of the line because you're going 59 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:05.840 to Opening Night Live and I was like yeah, sure, 60 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:09.680 and they started handing out these like tickets and people 61 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.520 were like, what's going on up here? And people there 62 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:14.520 was mainly Germans there, and the tickets were in English, 63 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:16.680 so they were like what do they say? And then 64 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:20.400 they were like, oh, it's to meet Jeff. And they 65 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.360 were like do you want some, and the other journalists 66 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:24.719 with me were like no, not really, and I was 67 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.400 like that ship is fucking hilarious. 68 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:28.719 Give me one right now. 69 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:33.039 And so I got it and then we were We 70 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.639 got in early and just to run through all of 71 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:39.120 Opening Night Live because it was wild. We sat down 72 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:43.759 near the front and there were like reserve seats right 73 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.479 next to me, and there were like four reserve seats 74 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.599 at the age of each row. And as we're going by, 75 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:52.319 someone tries to sit in one of the seats and 76 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:56.240 like a bodyguard looking guy says, no, no, no, you 77 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:59.719 can't sit there. Microsoft people are sitting there and I go, oh, God, 78 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.919 I know what's coming next. And so we're sat there 79 00:04:05.159 --> 00:04:08.159 and then like five minutes later, Sarah Bond and Phil 80 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:12.080 Spencer and their cohorter people show up and. 81 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.319 Sit next to us, and we're. 82 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:21.639 Oh, so I'm holding my fucking golden tickish like an 83 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:26.360 absolute idiosh, being like I'm so excited to meet my 84 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:31.519 best friend Jeff. And anyway, that tweet went viral. Let's 85 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.319 not talk about that because I heard it. 86 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:34.160 It made its. 87 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:37.399 Rounds internally, so that was fun. 88 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.680 But after the show, they're like, oh, you're gonna do 89 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.519 your Mesi and greet with Jeff. The fifty people who 90 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.439 they handed these golden tickets too, are going to do 91 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:51.160 the Mesian greet with Jeff Keeley and Sharks. Let me 92 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.079 tell you one. The German people, they're way more excited 93 00:04:54.120 --> 00:05:01.639 about Sharks and hell yeah yeah. And so there was 94 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:04.519 an after party after Opening Night Live. And the way 95 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.079 it worked was it was in one of the convention 96 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:08.920 halls and it was in the same convention hall as 97 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.120 Opening Night Live. These big black cursions that separated the 98 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:16.000 after party zone from the Opening Night Live zone. The 99 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.199 lights come up and everyone who's invited to the after 100 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.399 party goes to the after party area, which is still 101 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:23.079 like the lights are down and they have like mood 102 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.839 lighting or whatever. So I walk back there with the 103 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:27.839 golden ticket because they tell us it's at the back 104 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:28.279 of the hall. 105 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.720 I walk up there with the chicken and they're like. 106 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.560 Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're with 107 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:36.040 the gamers. You are not in the VIP area. 108 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:38.720 You're with the gamers. And so they. 109 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:41.720 Said citizens like always. Yeah. 110 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:45.000 They send me back halfway up the hall to before 111 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:50.399 the cursion, where it's like a blightly lisch area, right yeah, 112 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:52.519 as if to make sure that we are all in 113 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:58.319 view and sight. It is blightly listed. Yeah, yeah, And 114 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:01.519 there's a two by four or a step in repete. Sorry, 115 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.360 there's a Steven with pem with like Opening Night Live 116 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:07.040 stuff on it. And because I got onto the VIP 117 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.439 area first, I was like the last to get there, 118 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.639 and so I joined the end of the que and 119 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:14.639 the guy in front of me goes, you can go 120 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:15.480 in front, and I. 121 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.000 Was like no, no, no, your grand and he goes 122 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:18.720 in like really a. 123 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:21.399 Strong German accent. No, I want to be the last 124 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:27.160 one to eat Jeff. And I was like, holy shit, is. 125 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:29.560 This guy gonna murder Jeff Chili boy? 126 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:32.639 Yeah, that's just how German show affection. 127 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.720 And so after about twenty minutes awaiting Jeff and shop 128 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.040 shop and then another twenty minutes of like going through it, 129 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.319 we get to it and I get to the top 130 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:45.279 of the line and like there's only like two people 131 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.720 behind me at this point because another person joined lash 132 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.759 and the guy again said I want to go last 133 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.920 and put them in front. And so we're there and 134 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.040 I walk up to Jeff and I'm like, hey, I'm 135 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.360 a freelance journalist. I've worked with like Giant barm and 136 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:00.680 I've helped out with you know, other places, and he 137 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:02.240 was like, oh, you had summer games first. I was like, 138 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:05.199 yeah it was, and he was like, did you enjoy it? 139 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:06.680 And I was like, yeah, it's actually pretty well set 140 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.319 up for like for you know, journals, and you can 141 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:11.959 get around the place and you can see things. 142 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.240 And then he's like, oh, do you want a picture? 143 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.560 And my original idea was I thought would be really 144 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:18.319 funny if I just no sold it, if I just 145 00:07:18.360 --> 00:07:21.199 had like the blankest expression on in the world. But 146 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.560 as soon as they like took my phone to take 147 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:27.240 the picture and I was standing in between this esportswoman 148 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:29.800 who I'd only heard of that earlier that day and 149 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.959 Jeff Keeley, and everything dawned on me and I just. 150 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.720 Started like laughing to myself. 151 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:41.240 So now the picture that I have is me like smiling, Yeah, 152 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.279 I look like I'm demented smiling yeah, and like I'm 153 00:07:45.319 --> 00:07:48.519 way intoish. And then they handed me a four by 154 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:50.560 three with their signatures on it, and I'm going to 155 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:51.759 keep that in my wallet. 156 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:53.519 So it was like pre signed it was it was 157 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:56.959 just like already good to go, Like, yeah. 158 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:58.879 I do think he would assigned stuff if you had 159 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.439 asked him or whatever, but also I don't think anyone 160 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.560 was asking, right, So yeah. 161 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:08.040 It sounds like a good time. It sounds like you, uh, 162 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:11.680 but you won a special treat and yeah, you had 163 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:13.079 a good time with that as well. You know, it 164 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.279 sounds like a successful opening night live and then games come. 165 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.120 It was great because I got no food that nice. 166 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.519 And then I arrived back over where everyone's like getting 167 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:23.279 drinks and stuff at like eleven o'clock. 168 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:26.000 You can't feed the gamers, you just can't. 169 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:27.600 Actually it was like quarters to twelve. 170 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:29.519 It was almost midnight by time I got into the 171 00:08:29.519 --> 00:08:31.279 city center again and people. 172 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.440 Are like, oh, where were you all niche. 173 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.519 I was like, well, I was in the Kili line. 174 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:38.759 Yeah. 175 00:08:38.879 --> 00:08:41.639 Yeah, Well either way, glad that it was a good time. 176 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:44.960 Hopefully the traveling's done for a little bit or you 177 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:46.279 you got anything else lined up. 178 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:48.840 It is that time of year. It's that time of 179 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:50.440 year for us. We were like doing stuff back to 180 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:50.879 back here. 181 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.559 I'm like, I'm happy I didn't go to Germany because 182 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:54.960 I'm going to pass this weekend and then I have 183 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.159 another thing like immediately after that, so it's just nonstopping 184 00:08:58.200 --> 00:08:58.759 it right now. 185 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.960 And out with the GB folks was super lovely and 186 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.720 some of the other fandom folks and that really like 187 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:08.159 ground into me. Of like, I want to go to 188 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:09.759 a PAX and like, go to a show where I'm 189 00:09:09.799 --> 00:09:11.159 not constantly working and. 190 00:09:11.120 --> 00:09:12.320 I can just hang out with people. 191 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.720 You know for sure, when I was hanging out with you, 192 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.639 you know at Summer Games first, everyone was running a 193 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:21.960 live show and actually it's stressful, yes, so you can't 194 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.039 really sit down and have a chat with anyone. And 195 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:27.240 so I was like, yeah, I'd love to get over 196 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:29.240 to a PAX. I might be going to eg X, 197 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.360 which is in September, but after combining it with London 198 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:37.440 Karmic Con, which will be a fucking nightmare. So I'm 199 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.320 way less into that idea now. And then I'm planning 200 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.240 on taking a short holiday to Japan in the winter 201 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.759 at some point. I have some friends that live there. 202 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.360 I think it would be a nice time to visish 203 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.440 and it's when the rugby season starts, so I can 204 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:52.559 go watch some rugby there. 205 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.799 Excellent, Well, I hope you enjoy that. 206 00:09:56.840 --> 00:09:59.279 We should get into the show. Let's explain what we 207 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.000 do here most weekdays. I Jeff Graub, will help piece 208 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.919 your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news and 209 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.639 maybe even some of our own original reporting for all 210 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:09.320 these topics. I'll get the input of a bona fide 211 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.720 expert who will make me look smart. 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You can also 215 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:24.000 catch the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. 216 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:26.279 Hello YouTube. 217 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:28.039 All right, we have a lot to get into, so 218 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.320 let's start the morning mess with unionized staff at Call 219 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:35.000 of Duty Studio Raven Software says Activision is stalling over 220 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:36.080 contract talks. 221 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:37.840 This is from Jordan Midler at VEGC. 222 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.279 Unionized staff at Call of Duty Studio Raven Software have 223 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:45.720 filed a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board after 224 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.759 claims that Activision and Microsoft are stalling over contract negotiations. 225 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:53.840 The complaint, as reported by game File, alleges that Activision 226 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:57.720 Microsoft are guilty of refusal to bargain slash bad faith bargaining. 227 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.200 After Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blaszard and this is a quote. 228 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.039 Our members were optimistic that they would progress quickly to 229 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.799 a first contract at Raven Software. CWA president Claude Cummings 230 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.200 Junior told game File. Unfortunately that has not happened. We 231 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:14.240 encourage Microsoft to address the concerns raised in the unfair 232 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:18.440 labor practice charge and make reaching a fair agreement a priority. 233 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.320 A Microsoft spokesperson told Game File, we are committed to 234 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.840 negotiating in good faith, which is what they've said publicly. 235 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:29.960 And does I mean I don't know. I guess My 236 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.440 position on this, Lexi was always can't be as bad 237 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:35.320 as Activision was under Bobby Kottick, and this still doesn't 238 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:37.879 sound quite as bad as that, but it's still like, well, no, 239 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:40.000 you said you were going to just like recognize everything, 240 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:43.320 come to the bargaining table, do everything in obvious good faith. 241 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:45.960 There will never be any issues like this. That's how 242 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:49.480 you positioned this as Microsoft when this deal was going through. 243 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.840 So any sort of like hesitation on your part is 244 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:55.840 going to be very noticeable. And this seems very noticeable. 245 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:59.120 But are you surprised, Lexi that we're here with a 246 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.240 Microsoft owned app division dragging its feet with the union. 247 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.840 Yeah, I'm not sure if you watched it. Liam Robertson 248 00:12:06.879 --> 00:12:08.799 put up that video. You talked about the news stories 249 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.600 that came out of it, about the Crash Spiral crossover 250 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:14.840 game that was canceled and the development of crash team 251 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:19.039 rumble and the picture that he painted towards the end 252 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:26.120 of that of a post Bobby Cottick Microsoft owned Activision 253 00:12:26.919 --> 00:12:30.159 was very interesting from the point of view of it 254 00:12:30.279 --> 00:12:34.480 seemed very it seemed like it was in disarray. One 255 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:37.399 of the stories that he told was someone who was 256 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:41.159 meant to go out to GDC or something for Activision 257 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.720 was then let go during all of the layoffs and 258 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.120 then they were like, Hey, I paid for this flight 259 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.480 and these GDC tickets. Can I get these reimbursed because 260 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:53.559 I'm not going anymore. And the person at Activision basically 261 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.200 said like, yeah, that's a problem for the travel department, 262 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:57.320 and we laid them all off. 263 00:12:57.759 --> 00:12:58.320 Oh my god. 264 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.120 And so they just they had nowhere to put that complaint. 265 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.919 And I think that that was super telling from the 266 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:09.919 point of view of like, I think that we it 267 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:11.960 will only be in the coming years that we will 268 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:17.120 understand how messy this entire thing has been. And also, 269 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:21.639 if you remember, during the court case, I listened into 270 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.000 all of those and something that was made very clear 271 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:29.600 was Microsoft would allow Activision to run as its own company, 272 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:31.200 as its own corporate enter h Yes, it. 273 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:34.919 Does that with a lot of these acquisitions that's right, Bush. 274 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.840 The counterpoint to that was when Microsoft made all these 275 00:13:38.879 --> 00:13:42.000 layoffs Activision, or when Activision had all these layoffs, the 276 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:47.080 reasoning behind it was was, well, these areas overlap with Microsoft. Yes, 277 00:13:47.879 --> 00:13:52.759 which those two ideas can't really the corporate word for that, Yeah, 278 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:56.320 yes they were. They these people were literally made redundant. 279 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:57.480 And so. 280 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:04.480 The idea that allowing that company to run like it's 281 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:06.919 a very thought because if you say anything about this, 282 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.480 then you are basically saying, well, did Phil Spencer lie 283 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:10.159 under oath? 284 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:11.399 Is the next question? 285 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:16.960 And what technically is allowing a company to run on 286 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:21.120 its own within another corporate structure. It's very gray and 287 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:22.320 it's very hazy, all. 288 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.639 Open to interpretation by lawyers, and that's what they would arguing, 289 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:27.440 and I think they have already argued that for a 290 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:29.360 couple of these issues that have come up, were Phil 291 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:31.759 talked under oath and had to sort of explain away 292 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:33.639 a decision that looked like it was countered there. 293 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.799 And on top of that, when you have this case 294 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:42.480 when Microsoft says, hey, we're not gonna stop anyone from unionizing, 295 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.879 not coming to the table, or rescheduling meetings or doing this, 296 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.240 and that you know things coming up. Sorry, man, it's 297 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:53.519 just out of my hands. That in their eyes, that's 298 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.639 not you know, that's not you know, not coming to 299 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.159 the table. That's our life happens, guys. We're just so busy. 300 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.320 We have like Carl of Judy coming out. You know, 301 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:06.200 what's going on, you everything, you know, we will catch 302 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.879 up next month. And so that that's obviously what they're 303 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.000 going to say. And I think from the worker's point 304 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:14.799 of view, they're going to be like, no, you said 305 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:16.519 you would actually meet us at the table. 306 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.320 And this is this is a priority to us, and 307 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:21.919 and that that you have to acknowledge X that would 308 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:23.639 be arguing in good faith in our opinion. 309 00:15:23.720 --> 00:15:27.120 Yeah, yeah, and that's and that's the key thing is 310 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:30.919 that it's both both of it's the opinion of the 311 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.200 workers and then it's the opinion of a bunch of 312 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:38.080 lawyers and the corporate entergy, and the corporate entity is like, well, 313 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:41.519 in all opinion, we're doing as much as we can 314 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:43.919 to support all workers. And it's like you're a fucking 315 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.879 corporation and you don't have an opinion. You just do 316 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:51.840 things or you don't do things. So yeah, I think 317 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.360 it's it's a super tart thing. I think it's super 318 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.559 shitty that they're holding this up and that they're then 319 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.799 also trying to play the card of like, well, we're 320 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:02.919 doing everything we can. If they were actually committed to this, 321 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:08.120 they would just facilitate it. As someone who like my dad, 322 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.519 has worked in management for a long long time, and 323 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.399 you know, seeing you see managers like here, and you 324 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.279 see managers that don't, and when you see someone who 325 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:21.399 like actually wants to be part of the thing and 326 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.799 make things better for people, you see how they can 327 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.639 make those things better. And then when you see you 328 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.799 see like you can see right through this basically. Is 329 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.799 what I'm saying is that like this is Microsoft saying like, hey, 330 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.919 we did agree to this, and you know, we we 331 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.639 agreed to a lot of things, but hey, Indiana Jones 332 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.720 is now coming to PlayStation five, and also you know, 333 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:45.840 and also and also and also, and I think that's 334 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:47.840 the feeling around a lot of Microsoft at the moment 335 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.600 is nobody really knows what is certain anymore. 336 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:53.000 Within Microsoft. 337 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:56.480 You talk to people who work at Microsoft studios and 338 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:01.320 they don't quite know what Microsoft is guaranteeing them anymore, 339 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:04.559 or what their goals are, or what is like the 340 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.240 safety threshold for sales and things like that. 341 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:10.559 They seem distracted at Microsoft for a bunch of reasons, 342 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:13.000 which is like, well, a lot of the strategies haven't worked, 343 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:17.279 so they seem to be actively building a new track 344 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:19.759 under the train that is completely different than a many 345 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.400 of the tracks they had previously built, and that seems 346 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:24.480 to be taking up a lot of the mental resources 347 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:30.400 at that company. So something like unions, which is in 348 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:33.519 the moment when they're talking to the FTC, they're like, yeah, 349 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.640 we kind of think maybe would be best if we 350 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:37.720 just recognize it and do what we're supposed to do 351 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:41.039 in those situations. Sure, And then once they're faced with 352 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.599 and Satia's called me and saying make more money, suddenly 353 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:46.160 the union thing just goes out of their brain. I 354 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:51.839 think it's probably that. But so what you said that 355 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:55.079 you would do these things under oath, you kind of 356 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:58.039 have to live up to that alongside all these other 357 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.200 problems you're trying to solve, and and really that's no 358 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:05.759 one's problem but yours. And suddenly I think the union 359 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:08.799 taking this to the National Labor Relations Board uh and 360 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.640 make it a point of it is going to sting 361 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:13.079 a little bit and it's going to be the kind 362 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.720 of thing where I won't I won't be surprised if 363 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:18.960 we get comments from many of the senators and the 364 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:22.559 FTC themselves about, Hey, this is we said this would happen. 365 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:25.640 We said Microsoft wouldn't didn't really mean this, and Microsoft 366 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.319 doesn't need that. They're trying to avoid that where possible. 367 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.200 So the best thing they could do here is actually 368 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:35.519 address this, and that's you know, the the union leveraging 369 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.480 what what what, you know what it can to get 370 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.880 the work done here, and good for them for doing that, 371 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.160 you know it the end of the day, I still 372 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:45.799 think this is better than what would have happened under 373 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:46.480 Bobby Kottick. 374 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:50.039 Is that good enough? No, it's it's just not. 375 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:52.640 It's like they could, like the Microsoft said they were 376 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:54.240 going to do something, they could still do better. They 377 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.839 need to do better, and if they don't, they deserve 378 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:57.720 to be raked over the. 379 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:01.200 Coals in a lot of ways for this. All right. 380 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.839 Microsoft is apparently working on getting Capcom Fighting Collection two 381 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:08.960 on Xbox, speaking of a lot of problems for that company, 382 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.559 a lot just frequently a lot of third party games 383 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.200 skipping the Xbox, especially from Capcom. But on Twitter Xbox 384 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.079 fan account Clobrial noted that the newly announced Capcom Fighting 385 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.240 Collection two is coming to everything except for Xbox, and 386 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.119 in response to that, Jazz Cordin from Windows Central said 387 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.279 they're working on it. Jazz is a kind of an 388 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:30.319 insider over there for Microsoft information. This is likely a 389 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.079 reference to the challenges Capcom is faced reporting its older 390 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.559 MT framework games to Xbox. Something it might it might 391 00:19:36.559 --> 00:19:38.880 have deprecated as it moved on to the RI engine. 392 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.039 We don't know exactly what the story is there. This 393 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:43.759 has been the speculation seems to line up in a 394 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:45.279 lot of ways where there's a lot of games that 395 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:48.799 came to like PS four and they run on PS 396 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:52.200 five because of that, and that's because they kept updating 397 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:54.559 MPT framework for that console and didn't do it quite 398 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:56.759 as much for Xbox. And now as they continue to 399 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:01.839 work on these games that don't necessarily use the RI engine, 400 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:05.000 they are finding themselves being like, oh, we can't make 401 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:06.599