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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephelim

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<v Speaker 1>Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, aka the Raven

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<v Speaker 1>us today is Rider Lee back for the second time

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<v Speaker 1>on Neflum Death Squad Rider. For the audience who may

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<v Speaker 1>not be familiar with you, where can they find your

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<v Speaker 1>work and what is it that you focus on.

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<v Speaker 2>I focus on all kinds of different topics, gentlemen, just

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<v Speaker 2>like you guys do. And you can find me on

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<v Speaker 2>Raised by Giants, on YouTube and any and all podcast platforms.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also a documentary, documentary, documentarian, documentarian, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the word.

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<v Speaker 3>You got it, document doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Tarian, tartarian, document tartarian, and I have two films on

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon Prime, jfk X and A Clockwork Shining.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool, awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I'm excited to get into your work today

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a little bit of a special preview something

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<v Speaker 3>you're working on. And I think you realize that our

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<v Speaker 3>little our spiel at some significant overlap and we probably

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of facts wrong. So I'm sure your

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<v Speaker 3>research is much better than ours. Excited to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like Operation Stargate d I A CIA Secret

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<v Speaker 3>Operations MK Ultra.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, what are we getting into?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? What got me has started down this rabbit hole

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<v Speaker 2>was that I was studying the mk Ultra documents, just

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<v Speaker 2>like you guys were. And I realized that.

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<v Speaker 4>There were several.

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<v Speaker 2>Subprojects of mk Ultra. There's one hundred and forty nine subprojects. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the ones that we know of, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because it said that it was said that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them got destroyed, So a lot of the records

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<v Speaker 2>of mk ultra, over half of them all got destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>and burned.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But out of the ones that we know of the

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty nine subprojects, there were five subprojects

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<v Speaker 2>that was dedicated to psychic research and trying to induce

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<v Speaker 2>these types of psychic experiences, you know, intuition, remote viewing, telekinesis.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, huh, that's really interesting because I

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<v Speaker 2>know that the government had a psychic spose remote viewing program,

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<v Speaker 2>So are these two things connected. And then I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to try and get a hold of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>So of the people that are legitimately in the Stargate

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<v Speaker 2>remote viewing program formerly was in the program. Which is

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<v Speaker 2>another thing, because I think that they continued this program,

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<v Speaker 2>they just did it under something completely different. They found

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<v Speaker 2>a different use for it, and then they started doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's probably still going on to this day though

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<v Speaker 2>we have really really no proof and no evidence other

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<v Speaker 2>than there's a lady that was in the Stargate Psychic

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<v Speaker 2>Spy program that is still working within the government. So

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<v Speaker 2>all the people that are on the list that was

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<v Speaker 2>officially in the program, which is less than twenty people,

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<v Speaker 2>has ever been in the Stargate Remote Viewing Unit via

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<v Speaker 2>Army Intelligence Act.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another thing I thought it would be. They're really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of keeping that under wraps.

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<v Speaker 2>It's way smaller, and that's another issue and another problem

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<v Speaker 2>because so many people claim to be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>this Stargate program right when they're not and they never were.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was another program that was kind of running simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of had some overlap, which was the Gateway Program.

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<v Speaker 2>And some people may have been a part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Gateway program and they're getting it confused with the Stargate

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<v Speaker 2>program because they're very similar in name and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, but that was done by Robert Monroe,

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<v Speaker 2>as you guys probably know about the Gateway program, but

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<v Speaker 2>those two names are very similar. So people could go

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<v Speaker 2>to Robert Monroe at the Monroe Institute, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>to try and induce an out of body experience by

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<v Speaker 2>putting the frequencies in your head and you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>put on listen to tapes, and then that was to

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<v Speaker 2>induce an out of body experience. And now the only

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<v Speaker 2>overlap between that is that a few people well from

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<v Speaker 2>the Stargate program ended up going to the Monroe Institute,

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<v Speaker 2>like Joe mcmonagall. He left the Stargate program and started

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<v Speaker 2>up at the Monroe Institute and he's essentially the head

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<v Speaker 2>of the Monroe Institute to this very day. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that have gotten that kind of confuse.

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<v Speaker 2>And you could essentially go to the Monroe Institute back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day and pay them money and then you

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<v Speaker 2>would go through this type of you know, gateway experience

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<v Speaker 2>to try and induce an out of body experience. So

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<v Speaker 2>but those things are not really connected at all. They

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<v Speaker 2>are two separate things. But the only connection that there

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<v Speaker 2>is is that I might be jumping the gun.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit here, But the UH.

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<v Speaker 2>At some point Army Intelligence paid Robert Monroe in the

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<v Speaker 2>Monroe Institute. I think it was like two thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the official documents, around two thousand dollars to

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<v Speaker 2>send their Army intelligence people to go to the Monro

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<v Speaker 2>Institute to do this gateway program because they thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>somehow it would help with you know, what they were doing,

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<v Speaker 2>like to try and see if any of the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is connected as an out of body experience connected to

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<v Speaker 2>having psychic abilities, which I think that it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that out of body experiences and INDE experiences or

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<v Speaker 2>near death experiences are also connected because whenever you have

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<v Speaker 2>an NDE experience, people normally come back different, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>they whenever they leave their body or if they have

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<v Speaker 2>an out of body experience and then they come back

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<v Speaker 2>into their body, they're normally different. They normally want to

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<v Speaker 2>change their lives. And that's another rabbit hole that I

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<v Speaker 2>went down as well. It seems like that they are

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<v Speaker 2>a completely different person whenever they come back. So it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what is coming back into them? Is that a different consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>is that a split consciousness, is that their own consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>is that their own consciousness mixed with some other consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows. No one really knows, but I think that

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<v Speaker 2>more studying have been done into NDEs and these The

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<v Speaker 2>psychic ability is because a lot of the people that

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked to that were that claimed to be psychic,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the people that were a part of

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<v Speaker 2>this official Stargate remote viewing unit by d i A

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<v Speaker 2>and Army Intelligence have had near death experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if many of them have had abduction experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>because there seems to be a big overlap and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of at least the patterns and the storytelling that

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<v Speaker 1>people will come back from abduction experiences or even nd

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<v Speaker 1>near death experiences, things of that nature. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>this is a little bit of of an aside, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention this. I was watching what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is the name of the show Top with the

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<v Speaker 1>autistic people I love on the Spectrum and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to that part where the they mentioned synesthesia and the

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<v Speaker 1>you know the one boyfriend autistic boyfriend, he associates numbers

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<v Speaker 1>with colors. But what I thought was really significant about

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<v Speaker 1>it is later on the girlfriend sings a song. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you get to that part yet, Top where that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I buried my hand the head under the pillow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very cringey moment, But I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good song. Though it is a good song,

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<v Speaker 1>like you could hear it on the radio. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no verses. I mean there was no chorus, right, there

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<v Speaker 1>was no hook. It was just fucking straight lyrics. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she just killed it for three minutes. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>repeat shit. But I was listening to her and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like she has a tremendous voice, but she

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<v Speaker 1>knows exactly like where her pitch should be. And I

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<v Speaker 1>started thinking about that where you were talking about perfect pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>top and I'm looking at this couple and like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so strange because she does have this uncanny ability to

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<v Speaker 1>present the correct pitch. This is a well done pop song.

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<v Speaker 1>If you just reduced it a little bit and added

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<v Speaker 1>a chorus, this could be a banger on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio. But then also his ability to see

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<v Speaker 1>numbers associated with colors, I thought that was very strange.

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<v Speaker 4>Any other guy, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other guy with the hat as well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where this is leading to, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>like a DJ. Autistic dude, that's a DJ. And the

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<v Speaker 3>girl that he was on the date with is naming

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<v Speaker 3>every song and he's telling her the key signature and

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<v Speaker 3>even the time slips within the song just by thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about it. So that's perfect pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>As well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like that's extreme perfect pitch, just thinking of the song,

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<v Speaker 3>not even hearing it.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that I was thinking about that is because

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there is a frequency that is associated

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<v Speaker 1>with disassociation. So much of what we're looking at here,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's near death experiences or out of body experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>astro projecting, remote viewing, you name it. Even the Monroe Institute,

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<v Speaker 1>there's tapes. You could listen to the tapes and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll teach you in some way how to disassociate. And

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<v Speaker 1>then even going back to like the Gates program, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to that and they're trying to find out

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a fit for the gifted and talented, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck ever? It's all frequency base. It's like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>put a headset on you and they go can you

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<v Speaker 1>hear that tone? Can you hear that tone? Can you?

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<v Speaker 1>And they get harder and harder to perceive. But the

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<v Speaker 1>in the Monroe method or whatever it's called, and then

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<v Speaker 1>also in astral projection, there's like a binural beats aspect

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<v Speaker 1>to it. So if you want to astral project, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to disassociate, there's actually and I'm not recommending

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<v Speaker 1>people do this. But there are binural beats, there are

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<v Speaker 1>frequencies that you can listen to that will get your

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<v Speaker 1>your mind in the correct space to then somehow slip

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<v Speaker 1>out of your body. And so basically what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is all of these things are are connected. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>frequency or frequency is at the heart of all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really trust those tapes though, because you have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what people put in there or what people

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<v Speaker 2>actually did with those taps, like they could sneak in

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<v Speaker 2>other different kinds of stuff into the tapes, Like who

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<v Speaker 2>knows what's actually in those types of tapes, So I

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<v Speaker 2>personally don't trust him. But apparently you have to have

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of old school headphones for them to actually work,

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<v Speaker 2>because apparently the types of frequencies that are coming through there,

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<v Speaker 2>like the new headphones don't admit that old style type

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<v Speaker 2>a computer programmer, right, and he was like like computer

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<v Speaker 2>science stuff, and whenever he would sit down to meditate,

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<v Speaker 2>he would see all of the errors in all of

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<v Speaker 1>That's fascinating. I wonder if there's a connection there because

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<v Speaker 1>we're aware of that guy, what is it the surgeon

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rusty Knife or something like that, But in

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<v Speaker 1>various ailments, cutting tumors out, and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Previously he was just a taxi cab driver. But the

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<v Speaker 1>story for that is outright that he was channeling. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even the kids as well. They talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the Akashak records. I don't even know what I think

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<v Speaker 3>about that. I guess it's like this sort of thing

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<v Speaker 3>that's in the etherial realm that can be tapped into

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody knows what that is. They like to throw that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in their Kashak records.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing all the wreckers. I know exactly what's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they have no idea what that means or

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<v Speaker 2>what that even is. It's like the halls of Amente, right,

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<v Speaker 2>They're like a lot of this stuff is metaphorical and worcle.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like a literal place, and it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>literal thing, and that's a really big issue too. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was a place that I was going and I

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<v Speaker 2>Records stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, as in a side that

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<v Speaker 1>our boy Donut made an attempt. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>degree he found any success or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>he made an attempt to listen to the in road

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<v Speaker 1>space and to try to view the Acacak records. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if he had any success with that. He's

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<v Speaker 1>still a podcaster, so I would imagine. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what kind of things you gleamed from fucking the

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<v Speaker 1>Acacak records, but if they're not helping you to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of his grind, then I don't know what worth

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<v Speaker 1>they actually are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So essentially what happened was is I got a

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<v Speaker 2>hold of the people that I knew that were verifiably

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<v Speaker 2>in the Stargate program, A person.

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<v Speaker 1>That you got a hold of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've had a majority of them on my show. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had this one gentleman on that I met

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<v Speaker 2>He worked in the military and everything, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>him on my show. I was like, hey, bro, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what do you know about this remote viewing stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Remote Viewing Army Intelligence d IA program was

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<v Speaker 2>also under the banner of the d D. So essentially

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<v Speaker 2>the DoD runs everything, and there's these like sub people

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<v Speaker 2>that are underneath it, that are that have the name

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<v Speaker 2>that are essentially also running it, but it's all under

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<v Speaker 2>the DoD. The Department of Defense essentially runs every single

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<v Speaker 2>program regardless of it's all under the DoD banner, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, what do you know about

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<v Speaker 2>these remote viewing programs? And he was like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot about them, like I have all of

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<v Speaker 2>the documents on them. And I was like okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>at this time, very few of the documents were available online,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you couldn't just type in Sunstreak remote viewing document

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<v Speaker 2>and the CIA's website pulls up and you can read

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Which is happening now. Yeah, like the Sunstreak

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<v Speaker 2>document where they're talking about the arc of the Covenant

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<v Speaker 2>being remote viewed, which I know exactly who the person was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been on my show that was the person that

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<v Speaker 2>remote view dark at the company.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, so what do you think about that claim?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't exactly gotten his opinion on it yet. But

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<v Speaker 2>I've had all this information for around three years now.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had all of the documents. I've known about this

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<v Speaker 2>for a really long time, and I've kind of just

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<v Speaker 2>been setting on it because I've been wanting to do

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<v Speaker 2>something really big with it, been wanting to put together

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<v Speaker 2>something really big. And it's going to be the basis

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<v Speaker 2>of my newest and latest documentary that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on this stuff. So you guys are getting a really

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<v Speaker 2>big preview right now of the kind of essence and

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<v Speaker 2>the basis of what that documentary is going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>When will it be out? When do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm in the writing phases right now. I'm almost finished,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, completely writing it, and then we'll probably go

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<v Speaker 2>into production at the hopefully middle of summer. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to try and knock out a few interviews in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of summer, so it probably won't be out for

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<v Speaker 2>probably close to the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>So what's rider, Yeah, exactly, I see David's a little

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<v Speaker 3>clockwork and the monkey with the symbols, right though, right

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<v Speaker 3>you're on the we California.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean that's not a problem that's not solvable.

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<v Speaker 1>We are having broken.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, brohe mean Grove is going to be the twentieth

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<v Speaker 3>and the twenty first of June, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, twentieth and the twenty first of June, and a

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<v Speaker 1>end Rider when it come home.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we can we might be able to present you

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<v Speaker 3>a little caveat if we can get you down there.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to have or I mean our plan is

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<v Speaker 3>and we most likely will have a documentary crew that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be working on this, so recording most of

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<v Speaker 3>this event that's going on, at least the conspiracy side,

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily the comedy side, and we were planning on

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<v Speaker 3>doing our own documentary, but maybe we can collaborate or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe there's something to do there if you you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. We'll think about that. Put that in

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<v Speaker 3>a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit open invitation writer, and maybe we'll iron out some

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<v Speaker 1>of those details later on. But yeah, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge amount of overlap between what we're doing and what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. But see your credit, you're actually talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the bugging people that were there. Ye're doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was really important to me because, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was mentioning, for sure, I'm one down with that. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>the shot after the show, for sure, let's get in

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<v Speaker 2>contact with that, because I'm definitely interested. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>really important for me to actually reach out to the

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<v Speaker 2>people that were involved in these programs. And I had

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<v Speaker 2>some of these people on before, a lot of before

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<v Speaker 2>they before freaking not Lex Freeman, what's his name, Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan had them on their show before he started delving

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<v Speaker 2>deep into the remote viewing stuff, Like I had had

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<v Speaker 2>Angela Ford on like three years ago, and then he

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<v Speaker 2>recently just had Angela Ford on his show. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in contact with these people and I know them

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<v Speaker 2>and I consider myself pretty good friends with them, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was important for me to actually talk to them

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<v Speaker 2>because there's a lot of people that are like self

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<v Speaker 2>proclaimed remote viewers, but they're not really remote viewing. And

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<v Speaker 2>these government remote viewers will tell you that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>remote viewing. They're using their imagination. There's a very and

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<v Speaker 2>people can argue with me about this whatever, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can now go on and see the document online. You

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<v Speaker 2>can now go on and see the sun Street document. Okay. So,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where I got the bulk of my information

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<v Speaker 2>because it essentially lays out the entire history of the

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<v Speaker 2>government remote viewing program and their study and their interest

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<v Speaker 2>into it. It's a very sophisticated process. Like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>just sit down and close your eye and uh, remote

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<v Speaker 2>view something. That's not the way the remote viewing works.

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<v Speaker 2>It has never been designed that way. It's a very strenuous,

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<v Speaker 2>sophisticated process. Like you have to have people that assign

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<v Speaker 2>the target, and the person that is assigning the target

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<v Speaker 2>cannot They have to be essentially be trained to assign

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<v Speaker 2>the target. You can't just look at a photo of

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<v Speaker 2>like let's say I have this freaking Antarctica reader's digest

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<v Speaker 2>book here. I can't just look at the cover of

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<v Speaker 2>this freaking Antarctica book and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>remote view Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. That's the way, if you look into it. We

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<v Speaker 1>became aware of the remote viewing phenomenon, obviously peripherally aware forever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been around for so long, but we ended up

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<v Speaker 1>knocking into it content wise when it came to the

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<v Speaker 1>Cliff High predictions in his web boit and Cliff High

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who don't know, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>our audience, so they fucking are they rolling their eyes

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's been long enough. They've probably be long enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, so they're not doing they're doing half an

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<v Speaker 1>eye roll. This guy is that the guy from Cliff

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<v Speaker 1>he's a remote.

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<v Speaker 3>Viewing Dick Algaire. I think his name is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's Dick.

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about him though.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially what happens is Cliff High. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>rudimentary AI bot that scrapes data off the Internet and

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<v Speaker 1>through that data in conjunction with some emotionally charged vocabulary,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit weird. He's able to derive predictions,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least the AI is able to derive predictions

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<v Speaker 1>about the future, and it spits out key phrases and words,

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<v Speaker 1>and it leaves Cliff Uh as the interpreter of these

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<v Speaker 1>key phrases and words. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>it predicted was uh, the Donald Trump and Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>interview on the JRE. That happened. I guess a year

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago? Now was it a year ago?

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<v Speaker 2>How long? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe ryder you could explain to us. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>was about No, that was October. That was when Bohemian

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<v Speaker 3>Grove happened, like a rape or the last and.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just that to flesh out the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>that prediction, he used a remote viewer.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are numbers that he gave him, which I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that all works. He gave him. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like are and then like maybe six numbers and

424
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<v Speaker 3>the guy was able to take those numbers and then

425
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<v Speaker 3>remote view whatever from that and he got.

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<v Speaker 1>To your point, Cliff couldn't tell him details about what

427
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<v Speaker 1>he wanted him to do.

428
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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. It's a it's a blind remote viewing.

429
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<v Speaker 2>If you know the target, you can't remote view the

430
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<v Speaker 2>target because your subconscious mind has already been tricked into

431
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<v Speaker 2>believing what you're going to see.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Dude, that's okay. So sometimes that's.

433
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<v Speaker 2>What people don't understand. That's what they don't get about

434
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<v Speaker 2>this remote viewing stuff. They think that they can just

435
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<v Speaker 2>sit down and look at whatever and then just remote

436
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<v Speaker 2>view it. That's not remote viewing. That's just sitting down

437
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<v Speaker 2>and closing your eyes and using your freaking imagination of

438
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<v Speaker 2>what you think that you're supposed to see. The remote

439
00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:02.039
<v Speaker 2>viewers blind to the target. That's where the person that

440
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.759
<v Speaker 2>is assigning the target comes in. Okay, So the person

441
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<v Speaker 2>that's assigning the target essentially has to So okay, this

442
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<v Speaker 2>this the set of numbers right here. This was basically

443
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<v Speaker 2>invented by Ingo Swan right, it's called coordinate remove viewing.

444
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<v Speaker 2>But the coordinates isn't that They don't mean anything? Really,

445
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<v Speaker 2>the cordinates don't mean anything.

446
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<v Speaker 1>So are they somehow inherently charged with something exactly? Okay?

447
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, in whoa, that's crazy. That's fucking even crazier.

448
00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Dude, that's even crazier. Yeah, because because if they're coordinates,

449
00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.079
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, they've mapped out the astral realm, and

450
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<v Speaker 1>it's like, that's not what's happening here. There is an

451
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<v Speaker 1>intent that's imbued upon that coded you know, series of

452
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<v Speaker 1>numbers and letters, and that's somehow, Uh, that other person,

453
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<v Speaker 1>that remote viewer can tap into the intent that you've

454
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<v Speaker 1>bestowed upon that code.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exact.

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<v Speaker 3>Another thing. So in the upper writing and corner in

457
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<v Speaker 3>the in the middle of the page here he has

458
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<v Speaker 3>like a it's a compass, and we think it's a

459
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<v Speaker 3>spirit compass. Is this something that you've seen as well?

460
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<v Speaker 2>Uh? What part am I looking at a little bit?

461
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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

462
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<v Speaker 3>Circle with the cross?

463
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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is like a sketch and what do they

464
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<v Speaker 2>call it? An idio not an idiogram or there's a

465
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<v Speaker 2>specific word for what they sketch out. So whenever the

466
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<v Speaker 2>remote viewer is doing a remote viewing session, like a

467
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<v Speaker 2>legit remote viewer, like a government remote viewer, people that

468
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<v Speaker 2>have been trained to be able to remove you like,

469
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<v Speaker 2>and some of these people within the Stargate program do

470
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<v Speaker 2>train other people on how to remote view and they

471
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<v Speaker 2>go through the process. So what essentially happens is whenever

472
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<v Speaker 2>they're remote viewing, they sketch out, like all the details.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Like if you were to pull up the well, you

474
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<v Speaker 2>probably can't find it because it's not readily available online.

475
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<v Speaker 2>But if you were to pull up the syndicate document

476
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<v Speaker 2>from SRI from nineteen seventy three, you will see in

477
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<v Speaker 2>the syndicate SRI document all the sketches that Pat Price

478
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<v Speaker 2>and Ingo Swan was doing on the target that was

479
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<v Speaker 2>given to them on the base in West Virginia, on

480
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<v Speaker 2>the military base in West Virginia. So they essentially sketch

481
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<v Speaker 2>everything out and then they write like little details because

482
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<v Speaker 2>if they don't, then you're relying on total recall. You're

483
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<v Speaker 2>relying on them to remember all the information but it's

484
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<v Speaker 2>normally a lot of information coming at them at one time,

485
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<v Speaker 2>so they have to sketch things out, they have to

486
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<v Speaker 2>scratch things down. Like Joe mcmonagall, he got information that

487
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<v Speaker 2>there was this big, huge hangar, this brand new submarine

488
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<v Speaker 2>that was being built, unlike any other submarine that had

489
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<v Speaker 2>ever been seen before, and then he sketched all that

490
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<v Speaker 2>out and how it was, how it operated, what it

491
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<v Speaker 2>looked like, the hangar that it was in, and that's

492
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<v Speaker 2>how they got the information.

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<v Speaker 1>See. I think this is a natural phenomenon, but that

494
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<v Speaker 1>does need to be trained, because I think we all

495
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<v Speaker 1>have something Like my grandmother, interestingly enough, was an alien

496
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<v Speaker 1>abductee victim also wrote hand wrote a lot of paperwork

497
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<v Speaker 1>on remote viewing. Unfortunately, she died when I was a kid,

498
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<v Speaker 1>so like I never got to end ask her these questions.

499
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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine, like why the fuck a woman would

500
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<v Speaker 1>be writing paperwork on the process of remote viewing? Very

501
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>very strange, but I think that, you know, she fancied

502
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<v Speaker 1>herself a clairvoyant too. I think I have some remnant

503
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<v Speaker 1>of that. But what gets in the way every single time,

504
00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 1>and I've like set out to do this, like I've

505
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<v Speaker 1>laid down and be like, let's fucking go baby, because

506
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<v Speaker 1>weird shit does happen. I do go to weird places,

507
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I do see weird things. As soon as I try

508
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<v Speaker 1>to think about what the fuck is happening, everything goes away,

509
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Everything goes away. The second I scrutinize it, and I'm like,

510
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<v Speaker 1>what am I seeing? What is this? What is this?

511
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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I do it, just fucking it all

512
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>fades away and I'm just looking at blackness behind my

513
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 1>eyeballs again. So there's like there's an there's something that

514
00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>is intrinsic to us, like we have it. It's it's

515
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<v Speaker 1>within our nature, or else we wouldn't be able to

516
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.079
<v Speaker 1>train it right. But it seems like there is a process,

517
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<v Speaker 1>because if there wasn't a process, like if it was

518
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>just a natural, like think real hard type of thing,

519
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd have fucking done it already. I used to be homeless,

520
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 1>and I would spend a lot of time in the

521
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 1>dark at night, too sad to sleep, just looking at

522
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the blackness behind my eyeballs. That there is a process,

523
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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that it needs to be trained. And

524
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<v Speaker 1>then and then the question is should it I don't know.

525
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it should, I'm still uh, you know,

526
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 1>waiting around in those in those waters. But but I

527
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<v Speaker 1>do think that there is a natural aspect to this.

528
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what all of them will tell you, is that,

529
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, we all have this ability to do it.

530
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<v Speaker 2>It's just like a muscle that needs to be exercised, right,

531
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<v Speaker 2>Like you don't build muscle by not exercising and sitting

532
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<v Speaker 2>on your count all day. Right, you have to go

533
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.039
<v Speaker 2>to the gym and like work that out, and you

534
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>have to train yourself, and you have to have discipline.

535
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<v Speaker 2>So if you're not flexing that muscle and you're not training,

536
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<v Speaker 2>then it essentially just lays dormant. Yes.

537
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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting.

538
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<v Speaker 2>Now the information that I've gotten into is which is

539
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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the main reason that I'm you know

540
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<v Speaker 2>here today, And it may not seem like it's important

541
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people, but it's really important to me,

542
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 2>right because I think that it's you. You have to

543
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<v Speaker 2>understand how this Army Intelligence psychic spy program you know,

544
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 2>came to be in the history of because it's very convoluted.

545
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>There's several name changes, there's different funding apparatuses, and I've

546
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, so this is like a compilation of the

547
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.240
<v Speaker 2>basis of what's going to be my documentary. And I mean,

548
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.519
<v Speaker 2>obviously it doesn't have all the remote viewers testimony and

549
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 2>exactly what they were doing in there in here, because

550
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<v Speaker 2>this is based off of all of the documents that

551
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<v Speaker 2>I have on remote viewing from official unclassified documents. So really,

552
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<v Speaker 2>in order to like figure out the Stargate remote Viewing

553
00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:36.519
<v Speaker 2>unit for me, first off, you would have to have

554
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<v Speaker 2>a like, in order to be in this program, you

555
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.759
<v Speaker 2>have to have a military record of being in the program, right,

556
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's a military program. So several of the people

557
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>that are claiming to be a part of this program

558
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>are just lying and they're making things up, and that

559
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>seems that is technically like committing stolen valor. Right, They're

560
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<v Speaker 2>claiming things that absolutely cannot be verified and that they

561
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<v Speaker 2>were never a part of, like they're pretending to be

562
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<v Speaker 2>in the military. And that's another thing that people don't

563
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<v Speaker 2>really realize because the CIA is one thing, the military

564
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<v Speaker 2>is a completely different thing. And when people think that

565
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>this was a CIA program, it's easy to say, oh, well,

566
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, you really can't get in trouble for seeing

567
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<v Speaker 2>that you were in some sort of CIA program. There's

568
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<v Speaker 2>not really strict laws.

569
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<v Speaker 4>Around that, but there are more.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Strict laws when it comes to stolen valor and be

571
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<v Speaker 2>saying that you were a part of a military program

572
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<v Speaker 2>when you weren't. So everything that I'm getting ready to mention,

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<v Speaker 2>unless I clarify and say that it's not a part

574
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<v Speaker 2>of the documents and it's my own personal opinion came

575
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<v Speaker 2>from these verified Defense Intelligence Agency unclassified documents. I've read

576
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<v Speaker 2>them times and i even reread them to make sure

577
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<v Speaker 2>that everything that I'm about to say is very accurate.

578
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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, before we do that, then I have

579
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<v Speaker 1>to This is such a perfect time to end this

580
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<v Speaker 1>for people.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at the thirty four minute mark, which means that

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<v Speaker 1>we are now going live exclusively to Patreon dot com

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the live chat. Checking out this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>not an AD or. It's an AD freeviewing experience, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can go and check that out too. Otherwise we

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<v Speaker 1>are out of here. Bye, guys, all right now that

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<v Speaker 1>they are, it's nice. And when somebody brings I read

596
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<v Speaker 1>the documents, I double read the docum, and then I

597
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 1>went back and I verified that I read the documents

598
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<v Speaker 1>the right way. That's really nice. It's refreshing. We don't

599
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>get that on this show. We don't read documents at all. Actually,

600
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 1>we go entirely with our balls, which is why so

601
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<v Speaker 1>very refreshing to hear that somebody has read something and

602
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<v Speaker 1>are now going to present it to two dudes who

603
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<v Speaker 1>can't read. I'm really looking forward to this, So pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up wherever you'd like. Writer.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, apparently a lot of people can't read. It seems

606
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<v Speaker 2>like that. I know that you're joking, but a lot

607
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>of Americans, like a lot of kids nowadays, can't read.

608
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<v Speaker 2>They can't write, they can't spell, they can't tell time.

609
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<v Speaker 2>It's unbelievable, but so pretty much all of the military services,

610
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<v Speaker 2>at one point in time or another has been involved

611
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<v Speaker 2>in psycho energetics. Now, psycho energetics is what is described

612
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>in these documents. They don't come out and really say

613
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<v Speaker 2>remove you, and they refer to it as psycho energetics.

614
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<v Speaker 2>And most of the military services have found it that

615
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 2>it's applications oriented, meaning that they found a use for it. Now,

616
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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean that they all ran their own programs.

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<v Speaker 4>They did not.

618
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<v Speaker 2>But what I mean by that they were involved is

619
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<v Speaker 2>that they would give tasking to Army Intelligence in the DA. Right,

620
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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean that they all ran their own separate programs,

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<v Speaker 2>but the CIA could task Army Intelligence and THEDIA to

622
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<v Speaker 2>on a target. Right, So if we had a missing

623
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<v Speaker 2>down the airplane in Russia or whatever, then the CIA

624
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<v Speaker 2>would contact Army Intelligence and the DA on this target,

625
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<v Speaker 2>and then they would have their remote viewers trying and

626
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<v Speaker 2>remote viewer the missing down airplane.

627
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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way that it works. But people have lumped

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things in together and think that everybody

630
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<v Speaker 2>had their own remote viewing unit. But they didn't. Okay,

631
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<v Speaker 2>So where all this starts is with SRI Stanford Research Institute,

632
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>But the government was also doing studies in parapsychology earlier

633
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>than Sri They did it with Duke University in the thirties,

634
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Parapsychology Foundation in New York in the fifties, Mind Science

635
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Foundation in the sixties, and a bunch of other research

636
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 2>foundations and centers earlier than SRI. But the thing that

637
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 2>kicked it off was SRI in the early seventies, So

638
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 2>it's important to establish a little.

639
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.519
<v Speaker 4>Bit of background on SRI.

640
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>SRI's first research investigation was whether a plant could be

641
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>used as a source of natural rubbers, So from nineteen

642
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>forty two to nineteen forty six that funding to figure

643
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>out if a plant could be used as.

644
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 4>A source of rubber for the war.

645
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>For World War two, that funding got cut, so in

646
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty seven, the Air Force wanted to determine if

647
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:21.719
<v Speaker 2>US aircraft the US aircraft industry had like expansion potential right,

648
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>so after the war they were like, okay, well, how

649
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 2>far can we expand this aircraft industry. SRI found that

650
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>it would take too long to escalate the production and

651
00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 2>an emergency, so in nineteen forty eight, SRI began research

652
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:37.960
<v Speaker 2>and consultation for the Chevron Corporation to develop an artificial

653
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:43.039
<v Speaker 2>substitute for coconut oil and soap products. Right. So the

654
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:46.360
<v Speaker 2>reason for mentioning all that is to establish that SRI

655
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>is a government contractor, and most government contractors are front

656
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>for the intelligence community. And it's also establishing that SRI

657
00:35:56.039 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 2>worked for the Air Force prior, which is very important

658
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 2>thing to remember when we get into things later on.

659
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>So s r I formally separated from Stanford Research, well,

660
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:11.159
<v Speaker 2>Stanford University.

661
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, when when was that study done about the rubber

662
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 3>tree plant? The rubber plant?

663
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.360
<v Speaker 2>The rubber plant was in the nineteen forty.

664
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Two okay, alright. For some reason, I just like they

665
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 3>used to sing with this dumbass song in school. It's

666
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.920
<v Speaker 3>a Frank Sitatra song, Yeah, the rubber tree plan. I

667
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:34.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, I never fucking like, what what are you

668
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 3>talking about here? A rubber tree plant, but like over

669
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:39.920
<v Speaker 3>and over we'd sing it. I just wonder if there's yeah,

670
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the ants, yeah, mo, the rotary plane. It never really

671
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 3>made sense to me, but I was like, yeah, okay,

672
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.519
<v Speaker 3>it's a strange song the series I'm sorry rider.

673
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.840
<v Speaker 2>That was and it was done by srright, bro.

674
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It just triggered our MK ultra programming to shoot up.

675
00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Something has happened with something fucking taken over.

676
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Me so SORI formally split from Stanford University in nineteen

677
00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 2>seventy but it didn't become known as SRI International until

678
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy seven, which is another contention. There's kind of

679
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.119
<v Speaker 2>two separations here going on. So you have SRI, you

680
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 2>have Stanford Research, then you have SRI International, And that

681
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 2>was in Palo Alto, California, which I was just in

682
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and it drove through palow Aelto.

683
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But in nineteen seventy two, the United States Army Surgeon

684
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 2>General through the Medical Intelligence Information Agency, together with the DIA,

685
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 2>published studies of Soviet Bloc work in psycho energetics. And

686
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>also in that same year SRI Stanford Research Institute started

687
00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>research on psycho energetics. So in nineteen seventy two, how

688
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 2>put off in Russell Tard, they did a series of

689
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:09.960
<v Speaker 2>investigations of into the psychic phenomenon and this was funded

690
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 2>by the CIA and had consciousness researchers Ingo Swan, pap Price,

691
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Uri Geller. That's where Uri Geller came out of. But

692
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.639
<v Speaker 2>then they got rid of him because they thought that

693
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>he was some sort of masad infiltrator. But and this

694
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.280
<v Speaker 2>kicked off the Syndicate document that I was mentioning earlier,

695
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 2>where you can read through the Syndicate document and you

696
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 2>can see these the work and the remove viewing that

697
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Ingo Swan and Pat Price was doing on this target

698
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>in West Virginia, and it's really incredible. I really recommend

699
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:51.840
<v Speaker 2>it if people can find it, just to look through it,

700
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>because they're giving like details prob Like it's like impossible

701
00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>for somebody in California to know exactly what's going on

702
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:07.519
<v Speaker 2>in West Virginia, what this facility looks like, what's they had,

703
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:11.280
<v Speaker 2>the wind speed, they knew how windy it was, what

704
00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 2>the temperature was, and all this is recorded in this document.

705
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:19.039
<v Speaker 2>So Syndicate was the SRI project to determine if remote

706
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>viewing psycho energetic phenomenon was real, because if it was possible,

707
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.519
<v Speaker 2>then that the you know, the subjects that SRI were

708
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 2>working with on like the psycho energenetic phenomenon, and if

709
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they could be using psychic powers to collect information, that

710
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 2>could they be getting that information subliminally? How are they

711
00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:45.039
<v Speaker 2>getting this information? So that was SRI's study is to

712
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 2>verify are they really psychics or are they really using

713
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>their psychic abilities.

714
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm thinking about how you would try to dismiss that,

715
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:59.519
<v Speaker 1>because obviously you wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions,

716
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and you'd want to try to, uh, you know, disprove

717
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 1>this if there was any way possible, right, you said, like,

718
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 1>are they subliminally getting Like I can't fucking think if

719
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 1>somebody accurately is describing the wind speed on the other

720
00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 1>side of the country, you know, among many other confirmable details,

721
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know how the fuck I couldn't figure out

722
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>how to reach to dismiss that.

723
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I really I think some things are like, oh, well

724
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 2>are they are they getting it from memory? Like are

725
00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 2>they just making are they just making stuff up?

726
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 1>But right, I mean there is a chance, right, you

727
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:35.039
<v Speaker 1>make up some shit and it ends up being correct.

728
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's gonna be a probability when it

729
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>comes to how often whatever your success ratio is, and

730
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna really shit on on your ability to dismiss that.

731
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that was one of their tests. That's what

732
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>they were doing. They were doing in a series of

733
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:56.119
<v Speaker 2>tests like all back to back and to see how

734
00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>accurate the remove viewers actually were. And this gentleman named uh, well,

735
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.760
<v Speaker 2>it's referred to in the documents as a businessman, but

736
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.039
<v Speaker 2>we now know his name was Pat Price. They just

737
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:13.559
<v Speaker 2>referred to him as Pat in the official documents. So

738
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>when Pat Price got the this coordinate that was given

739
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>to him by how put Off in Russell Targ, he

740
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>remote viewed this area in West Virginia. Now it was

741
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be one of I think that it was

742
00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 2>either how put Off or Russell Targ's like cabin that

743
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 2>was in West Virginia. So whenever they got their coordinate

744
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and Pat Price remote viewed it, he was like he

745
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 2>was describing this facility that had like radar systems, and

746
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a US top secret facility that

747
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.280
<v Speaker 2>well not right over the hill of this guy's cabin,

748
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>just right on the box side of the of the

749
00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>hill from where this cobbon was.

750
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, chances are he doesn't go over the hill. He

751
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 1>goes fucking through it under in some shit.

752
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

753
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>There's a tunnel system. Get at it here, man. Yeah.

754
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say too on this topic of

755
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, you're laying out how this thing was compelling,

756
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 1>but still there's strenuous testing that has to be done

757
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>to confirm whether or not this is an actual phenomenon

758
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.519
<v Speaker 1>or is it just guessing or is it something like that.

759
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>And that's part of the reason that I find the

760
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>whole telepathy tapes thing so underwhelming. It's overwhelming in the

761
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.679
<v Speaker 1>way that it connects to a much bigger picture, and

762
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it's there seems to be some obfuscation that's that's embedded

763
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 1>within the telepathy tapes to paint a narrative in a

764
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 1>certain light. But the reality of the situation is there.

765
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 1>They have these children, they're displaying these things, and then

766
00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, anecdotally it seems to be, you know, working,

767
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 1>but obviously this is groundbreaking and we have to do research.

768
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>It's like, the fucking research already been done, dude, it's all.

769
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 1>It's not groundbreaking. This has been happening for a long

770
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 1>fucking time. A lot of what these kids are describing

771
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 1>in the telepathy tapes is remote viewing, because it's not

772
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>just telepathy. It's interesting they called the telepathy tapes because

773
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>some of these children are describing how they can be

774
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:18.559
<v Speaker 1>any absolutely anywhere they want to fucking be, which is,

775
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's remote viewing in my opinion. Uh, but

776
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just really funny that the way that the public

777
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>is receiving this is it's groundbreaking, it's a new development,

778
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 1>and we got to study this shit asap. But what

779
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you're telling me, writer is that these breakthroughs have been

780
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.599
<v Speaker 1>happening for a long time, and there are governing bodies

781
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and there are intelligence agencies and military operations that have

782
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 1>a vested interest in finding out whether or not this

783
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>phenomenon is real.

784
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 3>We we also had some weird evidence come to us

785
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:48.159
<v Speaker 3>about about these tapes and these children with the idea

786
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 3>of the hill that they're meeting on this hill. That hill, Yeah,

787
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 3>on the other side of as a government agency. Uh,

788
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 3>somebody just said that they're they're nonverbal autistic kid. I

789
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 3>guess was They were watching the episode our episode with

790
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:05.440
<v Speaker 3>this woman named Fringe who's an abductee, and we kind

791
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 3>of touched on this, and a listener's nonverbal autistic kid

792
00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:14.239
<v Speaker 3>reported to her that her kid then told her that, yeah,

793
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 3>he's been to the hill, and she says, where is

794
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>it and the kid just said, utah.

795
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. So so she's listening to our episode. She

796
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>turns to her own autistic child and says, have you

797
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 1>ever been to the hill? And the kid goes, yeah,

798
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and then she goes where is it? And this kid

799
00:44:28.840 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>just is fucking Utah. And Utah is fascinating to me

800
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 1>because of all the like electromagnetic disturbances there. I think

801
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that plays with frequencies in a huge way that suggests

802
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that there's something in the geography of Utah specifically that

803
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is like thinning the veil frequencies and entities are coming

804
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 1>in and out and of all places for his Hidinwalker Ranch, yeah,

805
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Skinwalker Ranch.

806
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Things like that. So I don't know where to put that.

807
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 3>It's just something that we've gottene.

808
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>It's fascinating. And of course if you look into Utah

809
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.559
<v Speaker 1>there are two major military bases. I forget what they are,

810
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's like there's military bases, there's national forests in

811
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 1>their Skinwalker Ranch. So there's plenty of places, you know,

812
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in Utah where this could be happening. But yeah, just

813
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a strange aside is all well.

814
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Also, Utah was one of the first states to do

815
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:21.039
<v Speaker 2>these like wilderness retreats for like troubled teens.

816
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, that's fucking nefarious. Troubled teens. Wilderness getaways for

817
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 1>troubled teens. Man, I wonder how many of those trouble

818
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:32.360
<v Speaker 1>teens fucking went m I.

819
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:36.800
<v Speaker 2>A yeah, that's a uh. That was a really big

820
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.119
<v Speaker 2>issue with Utah, and they're still doing them to this

821
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:45.119
<v Speaker 2>very day. Like there's still things like the behavioral treatment

822
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 2>of like troubled teens is like a huge industry.

823
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, because those troubled teens have pestered and set

824
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>their parents to no end. If they went missing, some

825
00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:58.519
<v Speaker 1>of those parents would fucking breathe a sigh of release.

826
00:45:58.599 --> 00:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>They said.

827
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 3>It started in this sixties, the starting with initiatives like

828
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.559
<v Speaker 3>those at the Brigham Young University in the nineteen sixties.

829
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 3>The Mormon connection is also.

830
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Fascinating, white shady, Yeah, interesting stuff, Mormons. What do you

831
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>what are you Mormons up to out there?

832
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:18.679
<v Speaker 2>And then that turned into like facilities right like after

833
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>it became like this wilderness retreat thing where they would

834
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.280
<v Speaker 2>have these kids, these trouble teens hiking for the entire

835
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>summer in the mountains of Utah. Then it turned into

836
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 2>like a like a facility where they would be abducted

837
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night, like their parents would

838
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 2>pay this company to come to their house in the

839
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:42.639
<v Speaker 2>middle of the night.

840
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

841
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.719
<v Speaker 2>And then put them in, put them in a blocked

842
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 2>out van, and drive them to this freaking facility.

843
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Imagine that. Imagine and some of those kids, I'm sure

844
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:56.280
<v Speaker 1>they experimented on. So imagine never knowing like you thought

845
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 1>it was you were going to do to your kid.

846
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.920
<v Speaker 1>You're going to show them what it's like, you know,

847
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.519
<v Speaker 1>have these motherfuckers showup in the middle of the night

848
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you you effectively just trafficked your child. I

849
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>was I was watching I was watching A Stranger Thing

850
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 1>season one again. It's honestly a tremendous show and it's

851
00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.440
<v Speaker 1>really great, man, especially that first season, and it had

852
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 1>been so long since I watched it. I was fucking

853
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 1>floored with how transparent they are in that in that

854
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 1>first season where they're like, they're telling you is mk ultra,

855
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, trauma based fucking disassociative disorders, like all this

856
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 1>crazy crap. They're just saying it. That's they're telling you,

857
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 1>that's where Elevin comes from. Is a m K ULTRA

858
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 1>breakaway branch essentially, And you know that her father, Yes,

859
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 1>that's always that's that's honestly. I made a tweet the

860
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>other day. It fell on deaf ears wasn't the banger

861
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 1>that I thought it was. But I just said, yeah,

862
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, it happens constantly. I said, disassociation by way

863
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.079
<v Speaker 1>of sensory deprivation. That's kind of how you can summarize

864
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. And that sensory deprivation manifests multiple things,

865
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:10.559
<v Speaker 1>right because in stranger Things, eleven is creating a float tank,

866
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, so that's a sensory deprivation tank. But then

867
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of it, another form of sensory

868
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:21.079
<v Speaker 1>deprivation is where you deprive children of their own autonomy

869
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and connection to their physical body, you know, by way

870
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>of inoculation or some shit like that. And then even

871
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>even in the the let's say, the the UFO phenomenon,

872
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I think there is a huge motivation to disassociate when

873
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're taken or perceivably taken by entities,

874
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.119
<v Speaker 1>it causes it splits the mind, you know, because you're

875
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:46.639
<v Speaker 1>dealing with what's up?

876
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Check this out? This is a what's going on in

877
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 3>doctor Phil's wrench?

878
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 1>No, doctor Phil, by the way, did that to catch

879
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>me outside girl?

880
00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Right now?

881
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.320
<v Speaker 1>This is whisked her away and took her to a

882
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.280
<v Speaker 1>fucking facilit where they abused her and she she actually

883
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:03.199
<v Speaker 1>took arms again.

884
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Turn about ranch in Utah. It's a facility that we're

885
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 3>talking about trouble, Yeah, and shit. So they're claiming physical, emotional,

886
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 3>and sexual abuse at the ranch. Yeah, seem like he

887
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 3>just said that he's negligent of like knowing. And then

888
00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 3>there was a murder in twenty sixteen as well. Damn man,

889
00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 3>this is this is sixteen.

890
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 1>That's what that fucking what's that girl's name? To catch

891
00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>me outside? Girl?

892
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 3>What that baby?

893
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Right?

894
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 1>That baby? That's right? That kid. Nobody listens to her

895
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>because she's fucking out of her mind, you know, because

896
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>she thinks she's black or whatever the case is. But uh,

897
00:49:33.519 --> 00:49:36.599
<v Speaker 1>she got taken to that facility, and then when she

898
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>came out, she dedicated a lot of time and resources

899
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 1>to like effectively whistleblowing on that facility and saying that

900
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>there was all kinds of abuse and that she was

901
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 1>abused there, and that they're just doing this, that it's

902
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>a rotating.

903
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Perpetual thing. Yeah, Parasol went through the same exact thing.

904
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's going on in Utah. Some shit is

905
00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 1>going on in Utah. That's fucking fascinating.

906
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Because if the Canyon bro that's where Paris Sultan went

907
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to was Provo Canyon, is that in Utah teen behavioral facility?

908
00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I think the Provo canyons in it might be in Arizona.

909
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:17.719
<v Speaker 2>It's either in Arizona.

910
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Or but that's like very much the same place.

911
00:50:20.239 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the but it's the exact same type of

912
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:26.480
<v Speaker 2>facility right next.

913
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 1>To each other, right, Arizona and Utah. I'm geographically retarded,

914
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.599
<v Speaker 1>but I'm pretty sure I drove through both of them

915
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>when I went to Vegas. So right there schools going

916
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>on in Utah.

917
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I like these episodes where we start to connect dots,

918
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 3>like I.

919
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Rl so dumb and then with somehow though everyone's a while,

920
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 1>we're like this makes sense. Oh that's so cool man.

921
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 1>So as these kids are getting molested, it's super cool.

922
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>God man, But it doesn't it doesn't help them. And

923
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like and the problem is is that the parents

924
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>send these kids to these teen behavioral places. A lot

925
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 2>of them are not bad kids.

926
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.360
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, that's that's the issue.

927
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>That's the problem with the whole thing. Like any parent

928
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:20.039
<v Speaker 2>that sends their their kid to one of these facilities

929
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:25.519
<v Speaker 2>full damn well knowing exactly what it is. Like they're

930
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 2>not they're probably not that bad of a kid, and

931
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.639
<v Speaker 2>that's the and whenever they get in there, dude, they're

932
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 2>freaking hit with all this like mind control programming, Like

933
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.119
<v Speaker 2>they're taught to be a certain way, they all have

934
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:42.119
<v Speaker 2>to dress the same, they all wear a uniform. They're

935
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.719
<v Speaker 2>trying to break you, they're trying to literally break you down,

936
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and but it never works. It just makes them one

937
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:54.559
<v Speaker 2>hundred times worse. And Paris Hilton was lucky because her

938
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, her family owns all the Hilton Hotel, so

939
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>she was already rich and she was like already famous,

940
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:03.880
<v Speaker 2>so she was able to escape that. But many of

941
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:09.599
<v Speaker 2>them that have been through these programs, their lives do

942
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:14.840
<v Speaker 2>not get better. They often get worse. And I think

943
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:19.719
<v Speaker 2>that these types of facilities are what some of the

944
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Secret Space program people have been through. And they've covered

945
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:27.039
<v Speaker 2>up that trauma of going through one of these team

946
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 2>health facilities by thinking that they that they were in

947
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:34.880
<v Speaker 2>some sort of top secret government which it was. It

948
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 2>was a government funded facility. Normally a lot of these

949
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:43.880
<v Speaker 2>are government funded facilities, right, and and they've replaced that

950
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 2>trauma with some fantasy.

951
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:51.199
<v Speaker 3>M Yeah, yeah, that's that's actually kind of natural to do.

952
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 3>Create some kind of a story to block out this

953
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 3>time frame. Yeah, that's dark, dude.

954
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look in the WASP programs. That's that's what they want.

955
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:05.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like this curriculum that a lot of these behavioral

956
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 2>teen health facilities are, it's called WASP programs. But I

957
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>actually ran into a girl that went to one of

958
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.519
<v Speaker 2>these in Utah, but I was not familiar with it

959
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.199
<v Speaker 2>at the time. I worked in a behavioral health alcohol

960
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:24.039
<v Speaker 2>and drug treatment center for around five years and I

961
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>had ran into her. She was like really young, she

962
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 2>had just like turned eighteen, and she was showing me

963
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:34.280
<v Speaker 2>photos of this facility that she was at in Utah

964
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:34.800
<v Speaker 2>like this.

965
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 4>She was all.

966
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>She was like telling me all the stuff. And it

967
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.199
<v Speaker 2>wasn't registering with me at the time because and when

968
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with people that are, you know, drugging alcohol,

969
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.119
<v Speaker 2>people like you don't know exactly what is true, what's

970
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 2>not true? Are they just making stuff up? But she

971
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:53.800
<v Speaker 2>was showing me the photos of her in this facility

972
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and all the things that she was that they were

973
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:00.639
<v Speaker 2>doing to her, and what were they do I didn't

974
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 2>even think of that until I had gone down this

975
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.000
<v Speaker 2>huge rabbit hole and then I watched a few documentaries

976
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>on it. There's a documentary on Netflix called Camp Hell,

977
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 2>which is all about the Utaheen behavioral stuff.

978
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't didn't is that the one that that catch

979
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 1>me outside girl had something to do with or no.

980
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:26.679
<v Speaker 2>She was walking like twenty ten, I think documentary.

981
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many of these treatment centers are

982
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:30.679
<v Speaker 1>in Utah.

983
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, right, I'm glad that you actually

984
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.079
<v Speaker 3>worked in the field, because you know, it's come to

985
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:38.480
<v Speaker 3>my attention that you have to actually visit a place

986
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:40.719
<v Speaker 3>to be able to even talk about it, so like that,

987
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:44.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that you've, you know, hands on experience. Otherwise,

988
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 3>how the fuck would we know anything?

989
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, right exactly?

990
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:51.400
<v Speaker 2>You just can't talk about things in places that you've

991
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 2>never been.

992
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm getting at least six here, and I don't

993
00:54:57.239 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 1>know if that's a lot, but we have Sunrise Treatment Center,

994
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Youth Care Treatment Center, Elevation's RTC, new Haven Residential Treatment Center,

995
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Embark Behavioral Health, Solstice West, and Copper Hills Youth Center.

996
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 1>Those are all, uh, it looks like they're all in Utah.

997
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:16.400
<v Speaker 3>We're getting a little off off subject.

998
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, I just like you know how it is

999
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>we step in something faint.

1000
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Fluctuating wildly from whatever you were saying.

1001
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So where was I with the oh, the

1002
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Ingo Swan and the Pow Price document? So Pop Price

1003
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 2>got this coordinator for the base, Well, wasn't the base,

1004
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>it was the cabin and then he removed viewed the

1005
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 2>base and no one knew about this base. It was

1006
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:44.199
<v Speaker 2>a top secret base. So then that coordinator was also

1007
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 2>given the Ingo Swan for him to verify Pop Prices

1008
00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>remote viewing of this top secret military base in West Virginia.

1009
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So how put off and Russell Targa asked him to

1010
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:57.320
<v Speaker 2>view this location again to see if they can get

1011
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:02.320
<v Speaker 2>in inside look for or documents to try and obtain

1012
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.719
<v Speaker 2>code word information right with his psychic abilities, with his mind. Okay,

1013
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>so Pat Price went back to the facility. He remove

1014
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.239
<v Speaker 2>viewed the facility again. And this is the mind blowing

1015
00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.480
<v Speaker 2>thing of this entire thing. This document is literally insane,

1016
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 2>which is also talked about on Psychic Spies, the documentary

1017
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:25.719
<v Speaker 2>by Russell targ on remote viewing. But it's just so fascinating.

1018
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So pot Price remote viewed the location again. He literally

1019
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:35.480
<v Speaker 2>got inside of the facility with his mind and was

1020
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:41.079
<v Speaker 2>looking around and he saw a dusk that had top

1021
00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>secret information papers on the desk, and he could read

1022
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:49.559
<v Speaker 2>the words that was on the paper. It was words

1023
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 2>like a fly trap, mine run. There was a foul

1024
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 2>cobinet on the wall that was labeled Operation Pool. Folders

1025
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>on the inside of the cabinet labeled c ball fourteen ball.

1026
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:07.800
<v Speaker 2>It was rock up like it was all code words

1027
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 2>that was based on the game Pool. Okay, And he

1028
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 2>said that the psyche the site resembled a name vaguely

1029
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.519
<v Speaker 2>like hay Fork or Haystock, which is the code name

1030
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.920
<v Speaker 2>for the facility. He even got the names of the

1031
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:34.679
<v Speaker 2>generals at the facility, Colonel RJ. Hamlin, Major George R. Nash,

1032
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.360
<v Speaker 2>like all these people. And this got the attention of

1033
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.119
<v Speaker 2>the de IA in Army Intelligence, right, like this dude

1034
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 2>is using psychic abilities to get all this top secret

1035
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:47.159
<v Speaker 2>information that nobody is supposed to know about, right, And

1036
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 2>this got all of the intelligence people, all the military

1037
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>community community all really interested in this phenomenon. I'm sure

1038
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 2>scared the shut out of them, right, I personally believe,

1039
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, because if someone can get access to top

1040
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 2>secret military information, like classified information with their minds. Okay,

1041
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 2>then could our enemies do that exact same thing?

1042
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Jig is up right. Well, that's what's kind of fascinating

1043
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.719
<v Speaker 1>to me is that we built all this apparatus of

1044
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:21.320
<v Speaker 1>secrecy and government buildings and facilities, and you know, the

1045
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon houses so many national security secrets and things like that.

1046
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>But this psychic phenomenon, I still do think is one

1047
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that is natural to a degree and then can be

1048
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 1>trained even further. And I don't know, it's like, how

1049
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>long have we existed on this planet. It almost feels

1050
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:42.760
<v Speaker 1>like this should have been something that we knew we

1051
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.239
<v Speaker 1>were capable of. And if we've always known that, like

1052
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.400
<v Speaker 1>let's say, as a race, we just always knew like, yeah,

1053
00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:49.679
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers are gonna pop in and you know, kind of

1054
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.719
<v Speaker 1>flip through your secret cabinet with their brain, then we

1055
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:56.760
<v Speaker 1>would have gone about a totally different way of maintaining secrets,

1056
00:58:56.800 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a totally different way of housing information. You know, we

1057
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't have drawers and file cabinets, or at least

1058
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 1>we fucking they wouldn't have glass on them, you know

1059
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Like it's just it's it's fascinating that

1060
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>this thing seems to have so much veracity. It seems

1061
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.599
<v Speaker 1>very real to me, and I think that.

1062
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>They've done that. I think that they have well, I

1063
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 2>mean it's been reported. It's not in any official documentation,

1064
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 2>but it's been reported that there are buildings that the

1065
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 2>government has that they've blocked.

1066
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 1>All over everything. Yeah, I laying blankets and ship over

1067
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.159
<v Speaker 1>all my death. I wonder if that's what they've done, because,

1068
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like I said.

1069
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.400
<v Speaker 2>They've made some sort of special wall apparently.

1070
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's interesting, and they can't see through like a cage.

1071
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting, some sort of something.

1072
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's that's just it's been reported that that's what's

1073
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:52.480
<v Speaker 2>going on.

1074
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if would work because I often think about

1075
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 1>when people are remote viewing, if you could perceive them,

1076
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 1>what would you p them as some people are like

1077
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you might see them as orbs like ghost hunters and

1078
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 1>shit like that. But it seems to me like we

1079
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 1>would we would exist as frequency, Like the best way

1080
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you could detect if somebody was viewing you, you would

1081
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:13.639
<v Speaker 1>have a better shot of detecting a frequency that was you.

1082
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember the material that Fringe said she put

1083
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:20.239
<v Speaker 3>she put a helmet over her head when she was

1084
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:22.960
<v Speaker 3>going to sleep, because these abductions were happening so frequently

1085
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:27.320
<v Speaker 3>to her, uh, not just abductions, but like weird visitations,

1086
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 3>and she got a sense that they were physical, like

1087
01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:30.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot.

1088
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.039
<v Speaker 1>More physical than she said it was. But she puts

1089
01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:33.599
<v Speaker 1>some sort.

1090
01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Of helmet on like this, like a magneto helmet, and

1091
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 3>it's made of this like a I kind of want

1092
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:41.679
<v Speaker 3>to say that it's like that ship that Uh it's not,

1093
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.000
<v Speaker 3>though Ian Crosson's always talking about.

1094
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh like a damn, what the hell is he always

1095
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:47.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about?

1096
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

1097
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Effectively, Yeah, but Ian Crossland is constantly obsessed with uh.

1098
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:57.599
<v Speaker 3>This this type of material is like it's like a rubber,

1099
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:00.000
<v Speaker 3>but it does specialize in kind of like weird electric

1100
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:05.079
<v Speaker 3>magnetic signals. She had it on, she actually realized that

1101
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 3>she woke up with it tampered because it was put

1102
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:12.239
<v Speaker 3>back on her head totally different ye, backwards. So I

1103
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.639
<v Speaker 3>just want to wonder if they're using that a similar

1104
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 3>technology where she would even get the inclination to use

1105
01:01:17.360 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing to stop I.

1106
01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Don't know, but it would be fascinating to find out

1107
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that the way that they're blocking remote viewers from seeing

1108
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.840
<v Speaker 1>their room is by covering it in like Faraday material

1109
01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:28.960
<v Speaker 1>or some shit like that. That would be like really

1110
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>big confirmation. Just once again in the in the frequency

1111
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.800
<v Speaker 1>energetic division of this conversation.

1112
01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you look at the X Men, you just

1113
01:01:38.039 --> 01:01:40.400
<v Speaker 2>brought up magneto, I mean that was this whole thing, right,

1114
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:42.800
<v Speaker 2>You would put the helmet on to keep Professor Xavier

1115
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.480
<v Speaker 2>from getting inside of his head and influencing him to

1116
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 2>do stuff.

1117
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep.

1118
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Well she is the known remote viewing technique.

1119
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, people, and then if you get into.

1120
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 2>People's heads and influence them to do things that they

1121
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 2>would otherwise never do, that's what which is crazy. Russia

1122
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 2>was doing. Russia had the very first program. Now this

1123
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:10.000
<v Speaker 2>isn't in official documents either. This is something completely different

1124
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 2>now Lin Buchanan, which is verified, and it was in

1125
01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the Stargate program. He was one of the top remove

1126
01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.920
<v Speaker 2>viewers in the Stargate program. He's the one that the

1127
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.159
<v Speaker 2>entire movie The Men Who Starre at Goats is based

1128
01:02:23.159 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 2>off of. H Yeah, Lim Buchanan, Okay, he was the

1129
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 2>last time that he was on my show, we were

1130
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.599
<v Speaker 2>talking about remote influencing and uh, you know this perfect

1131
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 2>side integration where the bilocation aspect where you can remove

1132
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:39.719
<v Speaker 2>you and influence theore environment, which sounds like what these

1133
01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.119
<v Speaker 2>kids are doing in the telepathy tapes. They're doing the

1134
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 2>form of bilocation, right, which is called perfect side integration,

1135
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:50.559
<v Speaker 2>which is a like really advanced form of removeviing created

1136
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:55.840
<v Speaker 2>by Ingo Swan. So Linn was telling me that the

1137
01:02:55.920 --> 01:03:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Russians were the first to create a remote influencing.

1138
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Program, so they would.

1139
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Essentially get into targets heads, yeah, plant thoughts, plant ideas

1140
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.480
<v Speaker 2>to try and influence them to do something that they

1141
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 2>normally wouldn't.

1142
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Do, which is what we've been saying these entities are

1143
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 1>doing for the longest time, right, And and we're not

1144
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 1>just saying that. We always go back to the muse

1145
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of a narrative where it's like great works that

1146
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 1>came out of Greece were often attributed to the muses

1147
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, great works of art or things like that,

1148
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and people still maintain that the inspiration for their you know,

1149
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.559
<v Speaker 1>their works. Oh, it came to me in a dream.

1150
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:39.920
<v Speaker 1>It came to me in a fugue state. It came

1151
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to me in a state when I was, you know,

1152
01:03:42.519 --> 01:03:45.840
<v Speaker 1>under the influence of this drug or that drug. So

1153
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it seems like we're just taking a play out of

1154
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 1>the book of these spiritual entities who who nudge us

1155
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.000
<v Speaker 1>this way in that way, you know, because we talk

1156
01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 1>about it on the show. It's like, so many of

1157
01:03:56.400 --> 01:03:59.400
<v Speaker 1>your ideas aren't your own. They seem to be intrusive.

1158
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 1>They pop up in your head, especially the ones that

1159
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you would call inspired. So something else outside of you

1160
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:08.440
<v Speaker 1>is potentially funneling these these thoughts and ideas into your head.

1161
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:10.679
<v Speaker 1>And it feels like some part of our government was like, Oh,

1162
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:11.880
<v Speaker 1>we could do that shit too, baby.

1163
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh. The material is called vellostat velos yeah or link

1164
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:20.880
<v Speaker 3>links that l I n q st a T. It's

1165
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 3>a conductive plastic material.

1166
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

1167
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I wonder the reason I was thinking of

1168
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:32.639
<v Speaker 3>what they said here graphine oxide is it's infused with

1169
01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.320
<v Speaker 3>carbon black, and I guess it gives it this kind

1170
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:37.639
<v Speaker 3>of like black sheen look to it. But she was

1171
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:40.360
<v Speaker 3>using it as like a weird helmet.

1172
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's probably what gives it its conductivity because plastic

1173
01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 1>not is really kind of an insulator right at a conductor.

1174
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:47.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting a hybrid there. I wanted to ask

1175
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you writer before you go any further. You've communicated with

1176
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:52.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these people, and you've looked into their stories.

1177
01:04:52.280 --> 01:04:58.719
<v Speaker 1>These remote viewers in particular, we find that pretty often

1178
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.519
<v Speaker 1>if you find some buddy who is involved in this

1179
01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:06.480
<v Speaker 1>situation and they are communing with different you know, let's

1180
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:11.360
<v Speaker 1>just call them frequencies for now, for this conversation. Every

1181
01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:14.320
<v Speaker 1>once in a while you'll find and in their old age,

1182
01:05:14.400 --> 01:05:17.960
<v Speaker 1>they lost their fucking mind and became schizophrenic. How how

1183
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.800
<v Speaker 1>are these people faring, the the remote viewers that you've

1184
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 1>looked into, Are they just like crushing now and they're

1185
01:05:22.960 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 1>they're having a good life. They're retired and everything's all good.

1186
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Are they are some of them? Have they lost their minds?

1187
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:33.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question. All of them are doing great?

1188
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:35.320
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

1189
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Several of them also teach remote youing courses. They

1190
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:46.440
<v Speaker 2>train people on how to remove you and a few

1191
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:50.639
<v Speaker 2>of them, I'm not going to say who, but I

1192
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:58.440
<v Speaker 2>know personally the government comes to yeah to remove you

1193
01:05:58.559 --> 01:06:01.480
<v Speaker 2>stuff for them on the side, like an they're essentially

1194
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:04.000
<v Speaker 2>exactly Yeah, huh.

1195
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.440
<v Speaker 1>That is fascinating. That is fascinating. The reason that I

1196
01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:13.840
<v Speaker 1>asked is because I am wondering of the morality of this.

1197
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 1>It seems to be a natural phenomenon. It seems to

1198
01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:21.360
<v Speaker 1>be something that you can train. It seems to be dangerous,

1199
01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but no more dangerous or or less dangerous than just

1200
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.199
<v Speaker 1>going into any uncharted territory that you're not familiar with,

1201
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:32.159
<v Speaker 1>you know what, what exists here or what doesn't. And

1202
01:06:32.199 --> 01:06:34.119
<v Speaker 1>to me, it would be a tremendous red flag. If

1203
01:06:34.159 --> 01:06:38.159
<v Speaker 1>all of them were fucking, you know, drooling and full

1204
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:43.480
<v Speaker 1>of dementia and you know, uh, plagued by disembodied voices,

1205
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.519
<v Speaker 1>I would go, Okay, well, that's a good indicator not

1206
01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.199
<v Speaker 1>to fucking do this. But it doesn't seem to be

1207
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:48.599
<v Speaker 1>the case.

1208
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:53.519
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not the case. They're all highly successful. One

1209
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.559
<v Speaker 2>of them is still a contractor for the government and

1210
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.760
<v Speaker 2>runs his own business it completely separate from remote viewing.

1211
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:06.440
<v Speaker 2>He does things for the army, yes, like a medical

1212
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:11.760
<v Speaker 2>supply for the military, like on his own like supper thing.

1213
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:17.760
<v Speaker 2>So they're all highly successful. They all do their own thing. So,

1214
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 2>but I think that that's like a thing for people

1215
01:07:21.599 --> 01:07:26.159
<v Speaker 2>that like just like already have like problems and like issues,

1216
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and then they think that they're remote viewing and then

1217
01:07:28.360 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 2>they're not really remote viewing. So then they kind of

1218
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:34.159
<v Speaker 2>lose their mind within that a little bit.

1219
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I think also if you if you started a bad

1220
01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:41.079
<v Speaker 1>place and you're susceptible to that sort of thing. So

1221
01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I do maintain I believe that there are entities that

1222
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.400
<v Speaker 1>inhabit these spiritual realms, and the negative ones they feed

1223
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 1>off of us like an energetic exchange. They seem to

1224
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.760
<v Speaker 1>eat negative energy. So I suppose it might be reasonable

1225
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to assume if you went into that realm as a

1226
01:07:56.000 --> 01:08:01.039
<v Speaker 1>beacon of anger, depression, sadness, anxiety, all that shit, then

1227
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 1>you might attract something.

1228
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.960
<v Speaker 3>But these people are not. They're not going into another realm.

1229
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.800
<v Speaker 3>But like astral projection and remote viewing are.

1230
01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, those are two different things, right. A projecting is

1231
01:08:11.119 --> 01:08:14.119
<v Speaker 1>an astral realm. Remote viewing is viewing this realm or

1232
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.720
<v Speaker 1>apparently fucking Mars. I don't know which, I guess is

1233
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:19.800
<v Speaker 1>this realm. But we had just had that that news

1234
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:21.720
<v Speaker 1>article come out from like the New York Times, where

1235
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times is like, oh, fucking you know,

1236
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they use remote viewers to remote view the surface of Mars.

1237
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Seems that there was what what do they say, like

1238
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:30.279
<v Speaker 1>there was a war there or there and it was

1239
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like Why what am I supposed to do with this

1240
01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.439
<v Speaker 1>New York Times? How fucking dare you.

1241
01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:38.600
<v Speaker 2>So there is a nuclear war or whatever you wipe

1242
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:40.119
<v Speaker 2>not the civilization on Mars.

1243
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that makes me. I want to

1244
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.520
<v Speaker 1>go fuck you New York Times, because in the mondanity

1245
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.239
<v Speaker 1>of everything, they're like, you know, uh, Donald Trump dictator

1246
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:52.119
<v Speaker 1>or or you know friend or foe, and and and

1247
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:54.720
<v Speaker 1>then as an aside, they're like, by the way, we

1248
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.039
<v Speaker 1>fucking remote viewed the surface of Mars, seems there was

1249
01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 1>a nuclear war anyway, back to fucking know the stock markets,

1250
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, what, how fucking dare you back.

1251
01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:06.600
<v Speaker 2>To the tariffs, bro, we got to talk about them tariffs.

1252
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just think it because it's like, I'm not

1253
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.760
<v Speaker 1>the absorber of the New York Times, but you just

1254
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.479
<v Speaker 1>gave normies the weirdest ship in the world. Like that's

1255
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking really, that's a really strange article to give to

1256
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.720
<v Speaker 1>normal people. And then to just go anyway and then

1257
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 1>move on from it very straight. What do you think

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01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:26.439
<v Speaker 1>that they were they remote viewed the surface of Mars?

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01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd like to know who remote.

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01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.560
<v Speaker 4>View of the surface of Mars. But there were.

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01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:37.479
<v Speaker 2>People within the Stargate program, which we haven't even got

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01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:40.800
<v Speaker 2>into all the name changes. We've barely even got into

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01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:45.399
<v Speaker 2>exactly what's going on here. But there was a gentlemen

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01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:51.720
<v Speaker 2>uh skip out water that was within the program that

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01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:55.760
<v Speaker 2>would have some of the remote viewers like remote viewing,

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01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:03.199
<v Speaker 2>like random stuff like the Moon Mars pattern, like all

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01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:07.319
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. But a lot of the remote viewers within

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01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the program don't put any credence in those remote viewings

1269
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:19.239
<v Speaker 2>because they can't be verified, Like you can't verify what

1270
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you've seen on Mars because you can't go to Mars. Okay,

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01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:28.119
<v Speaker 2>So they kind of just like throw that stuff out.

1272
01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.840
<v Speaker 2>They're like, okay, well, yeah, maybe who knows, but is

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01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>a verifiable No, it's not interesting.

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01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:37.479
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:45.279
<v Speaker 2>So in nineteen seventy six, the Missile Intelligence Agency they

1276
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:51.479
<v Speaker 2>started expressing interest in the US is like replication of

1277
01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:57.000
<v Speaker 2>like what the Soviet was, the Soviet psycho energetic experience experiments, right,

1278
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:03.680
<v Speaker 2>because this is another way that they use this as

1279
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:07.319
<v Speaker 2>an excuse to start up their own program. So they're like, okay, well,

1280
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.800
<v Speaker 2>if this is real, we know that it's real because

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01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 2>we've had these subjects at SRI that is being able

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01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:18.399
<v Speaker 2>to repeat this several times. We believe that the Soviets

1283
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:23.319
<v Speaker 2>are also doing this, so we have to start up

1284
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:28.159
<v Speaker 2>our own program. And during that same time, the Army

1285
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 2>was involved in the investigation of remote viewing concepts with

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01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 2>SRI as well. So the funding is coming from several

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01:11:37.359 --> 01:11:40.600
<v Speaker 2>different locations. Is coming from the CIA, is coming from

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01:11:40.640 --> 01:11:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the Army, is coming from the Air Force. Air Force

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01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>picked up where the CIA left off. The CIA stopped

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01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.640
<v Speaker 2>funding and seventy five then the Air Force came in

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01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:53.479
<v Speaker 2>started funding SRI as well, and then the CIA came

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01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:57.359
<v Speaker 2>back and started funding the SRI again. It's the funding

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01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:00.399
<v Speaker 2>is coming from all over the place. So in nineteen seven,

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01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:07.960
<v Speaker 2>US Army Intelligence established a project under the Assistant Deputy

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01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Chief of Staff for Human Intelligence and then implemented a

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01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 2>program named Gondola Wish. Gondola Wish this was the first

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01:12:19.079 --> 01:12:24.920
<v Speaker 2>name of this program. But if you got on wikipeda, well,

1298
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:28.560
<v Speaker 2>it's even difficult to find anything online about this stuff

1299
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:32.119
<v Speaker 2>because now whenever you type in stargate program, you're going

1300
01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.479
<v Speaker 2>to get Trump's AI stargate program.

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01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Right, which could well also be part of like you know,

1302
01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:40.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of muddying the waters.

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01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the Gondola Wish program was started in nineteen

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01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:49.239
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven, and by nineteen seventy eight, Army intelligence concluded

1305
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:55.560
<v Speaker 2>that there was sufficient evidence to warrant an official program.

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01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.199
<v Speaker 2>So this was like a research program to explore the

1307
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:03.960
<v Speaker 2>intelligence collection of psycho energetics. The Army then canceled the

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01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Gondol Wish program. They placed a complete security envelope over

1309
01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:15.199
<v Speaker 2>the entire Army's interest in psycho energetics, and then they

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01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:22.119
<v Speaker 2>implemented a new program directed at intelligence collection on foreign

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01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:25.520
<v Speaker 2>assets using remote viewing, and that project was called grill

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01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Flame to use these psycho energetic phenomenon as a data

1313
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:37.239
<v Speaker 2>collection for intelligence information. Right, So by nineteen seventy eight INSCOM,

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01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:42.119
<v Speaker 2>the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command, had the

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01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:46.279
<v Speaker 2>personnel that they wanted in this program, and the training

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01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:50.960
<v Speaker 2>was initiated and the person to train those Army personnel

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01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:57.479
<v Speaker 2>that was Ingo Swan from SRI trained the Army personnel.

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01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.239
<v Speaker 4>On how to remove you. Now there's a.

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01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Lot of discrepancy between if SRI ever walked into.

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01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 4>The doors at Fort Mead or.

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01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:13.079
<v Speaker 2>If the Army personnel went to SRI to train. Some

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01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:18.760
<v Speaker 2>people say that Russell targ how put off nobody. None

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01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:22.720
<v Speaker 2>of the remove your subjects from SRI ever walked through

1324
01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:26.640
<v Speaker 2>the doors at Fort Meat, So that would mean that

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01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.720
<v Speaker 2>they had to have gone to SRI International and Palo

1326
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Alto to be trained by Ingo Swann.

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01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:34.720
<v Speaker 1>This was seventy seven, you said.

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01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:41.840
<v Speaker 2>This was seventy eight. Seventy after they had shut down

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01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:45.119
<v Speaker 2>the Gondola Wish program, they opened up this other one

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01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:46.479
<v Speaker 2>called Girl Flame.

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01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 1>It seems like a lot of it is. I mean,

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01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's intentional or not, but it's

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01:14:51.479 --> 01:14:54.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just like shutting one door, opening another one, moving

1334
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.479
<v Speaker 1>from one program to the next, but the through line

1335
01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:59.039
<v Speaker 1>is the same study. But what it does is it

1336
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:04.520
<v Speaker 1>gives us this almost like fog of war situation where

1337
01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:06.520
<v Speaker 1>it's so confusing, Like if somebody can say, oh, no,

1338
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:09.159
<v Speaker 1>well they stopped that program, uh you know back in

1339
01:15:09.199 --> 01:15:11.199
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven, and you go like, oh, yeah, technically they

1340
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:12.840
<v Speaker 1>did stop that program, but if you didn't know that,

1341
01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:16.079
<v Speaker 1>they just started up another one of a very similar nature,

1342
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:18.680
<v Speaker 1>pursuing the same shit and just called it something different,

1343
01:15:18.680 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 1>and they did it the fucking the next year. It's like, yeah,

1344
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:24.960
<v Speaker 1>it never stopped plausible, Yeah, pleasbed exactly.

1345
01:15:25.359 --> 01:15:28.079
<v Speaker 2>And the issue that they ran into was would the

1346
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:32.880
<v Speaker 2>information obtained from the remote viewing psychics, would it be

1347
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:36.159
<v Speaker 2>accurate and would it be reasonable? And would the intelligence

1348
01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:41.319
<v Speaker 2>community accept the information? So I'm on September fourth, nineteen

1349
01:15:41.399 --> 01:15:47.159
<v Speaker 2>seventy nine, or Army ACSI tossed Inscom Army Intelligence to

1350
01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:51.960
<v Speaker 2>locate a missing Navy aircraft. This was the first operational

1351
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:59.239
<v Speaker 2>grill flame remote viewing session and the remote viewer located

1352
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:03.520
<v Speaker 2>the missingft within fifteen miles of where it was down

1353
01:16:04.640 --> 01:16:08.760
<v Speaker 2>and based off of those results, Inscom was then tasked

1354
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:11.439
<v Speaker 2>to work on additional targets and this forced the hand

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01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.960
<v Speaker 2>of ACSI to head into full swing operations and skip

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01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.399
<v Speaker 2>over a lot of the training phrases of the unit

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01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:20.720
<v Speaker 2>from Ingo Swan, so they were essentially just like, Okay,

1358
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:22.560
<v Speaker 2>well you made it to phase two or phase three

1359
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:25.239
<v Speaker 2>of this program. You're on your own now, when there's

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01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:28.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of there's a lot more levels to this.

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01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:33.439
<v Speaker 2>But this was also there's contention with this one as well,

1362
01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:37.119
<v Speaker 2>because some people say that it was Gary Langford at

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01:16:37.279 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 2>SRI that located the missing down the airplane and then

1364
01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Dell Graff which had a remote viewing unit at I

1365
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:52.039
<v Speaker 2>think it was Fort Dietrich. Fort Dietrich Maryland that by

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01:16:52.079 --> 01:16:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a lady named Rosemary Smith that's supposedly found the missing aircraft.

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01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:04.760
<v Speaker 2>You have a three ways, Well, she was a remove,

1368
01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you're a grolinger, was also a remove viewer, and then

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01:17:07.319 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 2>they also had this remov viewing operation. Believed that it

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01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:19.000
<v Speaker 2>was Rosemary Smith that found the airplane, but they had

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01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:22.159
<v Speaker 2>to say that it was this grill flame unit that

1372
01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:24.880
<v Speaker 2>found the airplane to continue to get funded to keep

1373
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:29.560
<v Speaker 2>the program afloat, because if they didn't have any actionable

1374
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.439
<v Speaker 2>data that nobody got anything right, then they're gonna have

1375
01:17:32.479 --> 01:17:36.159
<v Speaker 2>to shut down the entire program because it's it's useless.

1376
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:42.000
<v Speaker 2>So they took the information from Rosemary Smith with Dell

1377
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Graff small Remove Viewing air Force unit, and then they

1378
01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:51.319
<v Speaker 2>took credit for it. Army Intelligence took credit for finding

1379
01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the down missing airplane. Now this correlates with what Jimmy

1380
01:17:56.119 --> 01:18:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Carter was saying in in but she said it earlier

1381
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:05.239
<v Speaker 2>than that as well. But the really the only one

1382
01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:09.279
<v Speaker 2>that you can find is from nineteen ninety five where

1383
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:14.199
<v Speaker 2>he's doing like an interview and he's talking about how

1384
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:24.439
<v Speaker 2>they found a down Russian airplane that that a psychic

1385
01:18:24.520 --> 01:18:26.479
<v Speaker 2>from California found a hold on let me see if

1386
01:18:26.520 --> 01:18:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I can actually find this cliff, because I tried to

1387
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:33.319
<v Speaker 2>look for it before and I can't find it now.

1388
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:38.840
<v Speaker 2>But I made a short of it on my YouTube channel.

1389
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.720
<v Speaker 2>But I think that it's important to hear him talk

1390
01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 2>about it because it's it's really fascinating. I tried to

1391
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:49.920
<v Speaker 2>because I was doing another short on it because I

1392
01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:56.359
<v Speaker 2>just had Dell graph back on my channel recently, and

1393
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to look for it again and I

1394
01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>could not find it on line anywhere, and so then

1395
01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I just had to rip down the other short and

1396
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:12.800
<v Speaker 2>then overlay the audio onto a new video writer.

1397
01:19:12.920 --> 01:19:16.239
<v Speaker 1>When you talk to these people, have I have to

1398
01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:19.960
<v Speaker 1>imagine you've asked, have they ever explained in any detail

1399
01:19:20.560 --> 01:19:23.039
<v Speaker 1>what the process is like, what it what it looks like,

1400
01:19:23.119 --> 01:19:26.079
<v Speaker 1>what it feels like to U to remote view with thing.

1401
01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they all say that there they get the information,

1402
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:34.479
<v Speaker 2>like the information just comes to them, like it comes

1403
01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:36.479
<v Speaker 2>to them in their mind and then they like write

1404
01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it down like I don't think it's like a it's

1405
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it's even like a visual thing. It's like based off

1406
01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of feeling interesting.

1407
01:19:45.119 --> 01:19:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I say that a lot whenever it comes into

1408
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:51.319
<v Speaker 1>like things that are unexplainable. You might call them like

1409
01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:55.840
<v Speaker 1>supernatural or spiritual. That your impression, It counts for a

1410
01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:58.640
<v Speaker 1>lot in these in these encounters, in these experiences. So

1411
01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that's fascinating to hear that. It sounds like that's primarily

1412
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:03.439
<v Speaker 1>what they're using his impressions.

1413
01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got the let's do that, okay. So this

1414
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:14.479
<v Speaker 2>is Jimmy Carter talking about the psychics being used to

1415
01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:16.079
<v Speaker 2>find the missing down their plane.

1416
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:22.199
<v Speaker 5>The only strange and inexplicable event that has been discussed

1417
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:25.640
<v Speaker 5>publicly is that one time we had a small plane

1418
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:29.239
<v Speaker 5>go down somewhere in Africa. We needed very much to

1419
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:33.079
<v Speaker 5>find out where that plane had crashed, and we were

1420
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:37.159
<v Speaker 5>not able to find it by surveillance from our satellites.

1421
01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:40.960
<v Speaker 5>So the director of the CIA, he was also director

1422
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:46.079
<v Speaker 5>of all the intelligence agencies, heard about a woman in

1423
01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:51.479
<v Speaker 5>California that was a medium, and he contacted her and

1424
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:58.960
<v Speaker 5>she gave him the latitude and longitude of the plane's whereabouts,

1425
01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:02.159
<v Speaker 5>and the next time one of our space satellites went

1426
01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:04.880
<v Speaker 5>over that area relocated the plane where she said.

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01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:09.399
<v Speaker 2>It was Wow, and that wasn't. But he got a

1428
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:11.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of things wrong within that it wasn't in Africa.

1429
01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:14.600
<v Speaker 2>It was Russian. It wasn't a lady from California. It

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01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.239
<v Speaker 2>was a remove your name, Rosemary Smith.

1431
01:21:17.760 --> 01:21:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter just like me.

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01:21:20.119 --> 01:21:20.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1433
01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did a lot of misdirection with that is

1434
01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>to not reveal because this was in ninety five, so

1435
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.279
<v Speaker 2>it was like right around the time that the documents

1436
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:34.199
<v Speaker 2>were actually starting to be well, they hadn't been released yet.

1437
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that they were released until two thousand

1438
01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:40.479
<v Speaker 2>and three, but ninety five is when the program completely ended,

1439
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:44.760
<v Speaker 2>so it was still a top secret, classified program that

1440
01:21:45.039 --> 01:21:47.680
<v Speaker 2>very few people knew about. I mean even the people

1441
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:50.760
<v Speaker 2>on the base at Fort Mead didn't really even know

1442
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>exactly what was going on.

1443
01:21:53.479 --> 01:21:56.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, So, did you know that Jimmy Carter was a

1444
01:21:56.359 --> 01:21:57.039
<v Speaker 3>peanut farmer?

1445
01:21:59.399 --> 01:21:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter?

1446
01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Back, row back, Jimmy Carter, Shut out Carter.

1447
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:08.920
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that, baby, You didn't know that.

1448
01:22:08.960 --> 01:22:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Jimmy Carter.

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01:22:12.239 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that we did an episode with Elijah Schaeffer and

1450
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:18.880
<v Speaker 3>in his studio and uh, I guess it was like

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01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Carter Day or something. I was just hitting him

1452
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.079
<v Speaker 3>every like three minutes with Jimmy Carter fact and he's like.

1453
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Carterfactimy didn't Jimmy Carter have a UFO story as well?

1454
01:22:28.119 --> 01:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>He did, Pretty sure it does. Yeah, weird Enkodner, very strange,

1455
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.920
<v Speaker 1>very strange. But outside I mean, you hear that when

1456
01:22:35.960 --> 01:22:38.359
<v Speaker 1>it comes like the FBI or unsolved murder cases, things

1457
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. Uh, sometimes in desperation they will, you know,

1458
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:45.439
<v Speaker 1>refer to a claravoyant, a psychic, and I don't know,

1459
01:22:45.840 --> 01:22:48.880
<v Speaker 1>if it's sensationalized how much the success ratio of that

1460
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:53.239
<v Speaker 1>actually is. There are I imagine, some psychics that are

1461
01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:54.880
<v Speaker 1>used more than others, you know, if they if they

1462
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.880
<v Speaker 1>display some sort of competency or success ratio, But I

1463
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It always is a little frustrating to me

1464
01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:06.399
<v Speaker 1>when you see how dismissed this phenomenon is of like

1465
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:09.239
<v Speaker 1>clairvoyance or remote viewing or any of these things. And

1466
01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:12.680
<v Speaker 1>then you find out that at the highest levels they

1467
01:23:12.720 --> 01:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>will often end up using these people. And while we

1468
01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>gravel down here in the trash and we go it's

1469
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:21.840
<v Speaker 1>not real, that shit's not real. That's a con man,

1470
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:23.439
<v Speaker 1>this and that, and I'm like, maybe, I'm sure there's

1471
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of con people. But then there are stories

1472
01:23:26.479 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 1>like that that you just go, well, what do you

1473
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>do with that, dummy, I don't know what to do

1474
01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:30.279
<v Speaker 1>with that. Feels pretty reach Now.

1475
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:33.399
<v Speaker 2>I've gotten in the several arguments with the people that

1476
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>have no idea what they're talking about because they haven't

1477
01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:38.039
<v Speaker 2>read all this stuff and they haven't talked with the

1478
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:41.479
<v Speaker 2>actual you know, people that were involved in these programs,

1479
01:23:41.479 --> 01:23:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and whenever you talk with them, you've done all this

1480
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.840
<v Speaker 2>research and you've read the documents, you have no other

1481
01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:50.399
<v Speaker 2>conclusion to come to then that this is real.

1482
01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like if if yeah, unless they're lying that

1483
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:58.319
<v Speaker 1>the information that I'm looking at here, if this is real,

1484
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:01.319
<v Speaker 1>then it seems to be that this phenomenon is real. Writer,

1485
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Have you fucking tried it? Have you tried it? Tell

1486
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:03.680
<v Speaker 1>me the truth?

1487
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:05.279
<v Speaker 4>Writer, No, I have not tried it.

1488
01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Why haven't you tried it?

1489
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Because it's a like I said, it's like it's a

1490
01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:12.479
<v Speaker 2>very sophisticated thing, and like you can't just give yourself

1491
01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:15.880
<v Speaker 2>your own target, So what would I even really be doing.

1492
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:20.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you it if I don't know what for you,

1493
01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>but I'll find a target for you, dude. One of

1494
01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:27.479
<v Speaker 1>us has to tell somebody has to try it, all right,

1495
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.199
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Look, if you're I wouldn't recommend

1496
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it to any of the fans because I just don't

1497
01:24:31.720 --> 01:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing. But if you're gonna do it anyway,

1498
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>reach out to me. I'll give you a target. I

1499
01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do that, but we'll figure it

1500
01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:39.079
<v Speaker 1>out and we'll have to do something. Actually, if you

1501
01:24:39.119 --> 01:24:41.039
<v Speaker 1>sign up for the thirty three dollars tier on Patreon,

1502
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.119
<v Speaker 1>you get telepathy, so uh, that comes with it, and

1503
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:46.279
<v Speaker 1>apparently you know, just do it that way and it'll

1504
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.239
<v Speaker 1>be fine. I find that fascinating though, because I'm the

1505
01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>same way you're doing it, because you're like, I have

1506
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it legitimately and I don't know if I

1507
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>can find a legitimate source of it. I'm not doing

1508
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it because I'm like, I don't know the implications of it,

1509
01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and I would hate to. As somebody who's been inundated

1510
01:25:02.560 --> 01:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of my life with fucking weird things,

1511
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:09.079
<v Speaker 1>just weird weird things, entities and fucking sleep paralysis and

1512
01:25:09.079 --> 01:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>stupid shit, I don't really want to open up that

1513
01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>door because I don't know where these things that I

1514
01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>see every once in a while live. They might live there,

1515
01:25:18.439 --> 01:25:20.199
<v Speaker 1>and if I do that, then am I gonna see

1516
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:23.359
<v Speaker 1>them more because I don't like them. They're pretty exhausting

1517
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and I hope they stay away. So we just need somebody.

1518
01:25:26.680 --> 01:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Top would probably be a good candidate to

1519
01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:31.359
<v Speaker 1>start practicing remote viewing, and then we can give them

1520
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>targets and then Top could go and he can go

1521
01:25:33.640 --> 01:25:35.199
<v Speaker 1>and see things. You know, he can go back to

1522
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:37.439
<v Speaker 1>the city, or he can go to Utah, maybe see

1523
01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Utah. Maybe that's what we have

1524
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to do. We're never gonna figure it out. We're never

1525
01:25:41.479 --> 01:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>going to raise the funds to have an NDS trip

1526
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to Utah to go and bust one of these facilities.

1527
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>We just have to we have to learn how to

1528
01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:50.760
<v Speaker 1>remote view. We got to go to Utah. We got

1529
01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>to see what's going on? Is that are we? Are

1530
01:25:53.239 --> 01:25:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you okay with that? Top?

1531
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Long way to plan, Let's do that. I'm behind that.

1532
01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

1533
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure that's why they have like those cryptos

1534
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:04.880
<v Speaker 3>around these government facilities. Due're guarding telepathically psychically. I'm not

1535
01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.840
<v Speaker 3>trying to run into like a dog man or some like.

1536
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Well, that's something with the dolphin head.

1537
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard that writer that some people will

1538
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>go into this like remote viewing or actual projection, and

1539
01:26:14.119 --> 01:26:16.199
<v Speaker 1>there will there seems to be operatives in that realm

1540
01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:19.039
<v Speaker 1>that are like, no, no, no, fucking don't come here.

1541
01:26:19.239 --> 01:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard those stories?

1542
01:26:21.359 --> 01:26:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I've heard that.

1543
01:26:22.199 --> 01:26:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much truth there is that, because

1544
01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.920
<v Speaker 2>that could be just people making stuff up so that

1545
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>they don't have to because they really didn't do anything. Yeah,

1546
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>so they don't have the information, so they can't give

1547
01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:39.960
<v Speaker 2>out the information. So then they make the excuse that

1548
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>there were these psychic agents there that was blocking them

1549
01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:43.800
<v Speaker 2>from the information.

1550
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but but it's.

1551
01:26:45.560 --> 01:26:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Not out of the realm of the possibility. I mean,

1552
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>if they got freaking rooms and entire buildings that are

1553
01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:56.039
<v Speaker 2>essentially remote viewing proof, like why wouldn't you have some

1554
01:26:56.159 --> 01:27:01.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of other kind of psychic defense from it? But

1555
01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much, Like are we really not

1556
01:27:06.399 --> 01:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>worried about remote viewers?

1557
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Like doing we should be, Like it seems like if

1558
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>this is fucking real, we should be really, really really afraid.

1559
01:27:15.520 --> 01:27:17.279
<v Speaker 1>You know what it is too, It's like it's the government.

1560
01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>So if there is uh, well, government jobs usually pretty

1561
01:27:20.920 --> 01:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty well. But if there is a Department of fucking

1562
01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:26.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, astral security. They probably get paid like thirteen

1563
01:27:26.119 --> 01:27:28.039
<v Speaker 1>dollars an hour, and then I just be like, this

1564
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:33.479
<v Speaker 1>is not worth it. I gotta work real to try

1565
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:37.800
<v Speaker 1>to make ends meet and ship that's actually really good around.

1566
01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>They can't prove that you're doing anything. You could just

1567
01:27:41.520 --> 01:27:43.039
<v Speaker 2>like not even doing anything.

1568
01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where these fucking checks keep coming from.

1569
01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:46.800
<v Speaker 1>All I know is you go in the bedroom and

1570
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:49.279
<v Speaker 1>you lock yourself in the bedroom for for a twelve

1571
01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:51.239
<v Speaker 1>hour shift, and then all of a sudden check shows up.

1572
01:27:51.279 --> 01:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe you. I don't believe you at all.

1573
01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.479
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a really hard gig to maintain. But

1574
01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that if, if, if there's this much evidence,

1575
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't even call it anecdotal evidence because it's not anecdotal.

1576
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're talking about government documents, and I don't

1577
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:10.079
<v Speaker 1>know how much more official someone needs the evidence to

1578
01:28:10.079 --> 01:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>be in order to entertain this line of thought. But

1579
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I imagine that foreign governments very much the same way that,

1580
01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Like we were in a race with Russia and China

1581
01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to get to the moon, and then people speculate that

1582
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why we have faked footage. It was like, as

1583
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a contingency if we didn't make it to the moon

1584
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>before Russia did, we could at least premiere this faked

1585
01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>footage and be like, yeah, we did funk you, and

1586
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, do what you want with that information. I

1587
01:28:33.159 --> 01:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know how I feel about that, but I can

1588
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>get behind the sentiment at least that there would be

1589
01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a big, a big competition between US and other major

1590
01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:46.479
<v Speaker 1>world players. So if China and Russia caught wind that

1591
01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>we were employing, to whatever degree of success, remote viewers,

1592
01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I would be damn sure they would fucking they would

1593
01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 1>do all the same shit. So if we have it now,

1594
01:28:56.479 --> 01:28:59.359
<v Speaker 1>like China's got it, Russia's got it, you know, you

1595
01:28:59.479 --> 01:29:02.319
<v Speaker 1>name them, They've got remote viewers, why wouldn't you. I

1596
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>just can't say. I can't see looking at this and

1597
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>then not doing that.

1598
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Uh. In the United States has always been at odds

1599
01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:13.039
<v Speaker 2>with Russia, like since after World War Two, Like Russia

1600
01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>has always kind of been that silent enemy of the

1601
01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:21.079
<v Speaker 2>United States. But Russia, actually, I don't want to get

1602
01:29:21.079 --> 01:29:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you far off topic, but Russia actually got more Nazis

1603
01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:29.479
<v Speaker 2>after World War Two than the United States got.

1604
01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

1605
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Interesting. That's interesting.

1606
01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:38.239
<v Speaker 2>And there was a Russian equivalent of Project paper Clip

1607
01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:41.479
<v Speaker 2>that the United States got and Russia got like double

1608
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>the amount.

1609
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:44.439
<v Speaker 1>This seems like it all comes from the Nazis too,

1610
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>because I was listening to something and they were talking

1611
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:52.239
<v Speaker 1>about the psychic connection between twins. I forgot why that

1612
01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:53.720
<v Speaker 1>came up, but they was listening to an episode of

1613
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Tenfoil Hat yesterday and that came up. Might have been

1614
01:29:55.920 --> 01:30:00.039
<v Speaker 1>that or the Confessionals, but either way, this notion of

1615
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:03.399
<v Speaker 1>of the psychic connection between twins came up, and it

1616
01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:08.199
<v Speaker 1>reminded me of Mangela's obsession with twins, you know, during

1617
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the height of the Nazi regime. And I know that

1618
01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of our data that created the MK ulture

1619
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:21.079
<v Speaker 1>program came out of Nazi Germany, and I just it

1620
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:25.439
<v Speaker 1>all feels like it's it all comes from them. Like

1621
01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever Hitler was doing, seemed like he really discovered

1622
01:30:28.920 --> 01:30:31.359
<v Speaker 1>some shit, like some real serious shit in the way

1623
01:30:31.399 --> 01:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>of like psychic phenomenon and that birth it was like

1624
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:39.279
<v Speaker 1>planting a seed in our own culture and it blew

1625
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.439
<v Speaker 1>up into something massive that we're now seeing today at

1626
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:43.800
<v Speaker 1>this huge scale.

1627
01:30:44.039 --> 01:30:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is the Russian version of Project paper Clip,

1628
01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:53.399
<v Speaker 2>the secret Soviet operation which more than twenty five hundred

1629
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:58.079
<v Speaker 2>German specialties scientists, engineers, and technician who worked in several

1630
01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:01.479
<v Speaker 2>areas from companies and institution rob led to military and

1631
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:06.520
<v Speaker 2>economic policy in the Soviet occupation zone of Germany and Berlin,

1632
01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>as well as.

1633
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.279
<v Speaker 4>Around four thousand more.

1634
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Family members totally. In six thousand people were taken from

1635
01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:21.760
<v Speaker 2>former Nazi Germany as war reparations to the Soviet Union.

1636
01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Now that's a lot of folks. Damn. I wonder how

1637
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>much we got.

1638
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't the numbers, well, the official numbers, which we

1639
01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:38.439
<v Speaker 2>don't really know. People claim that we got upwards of

1640
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:42.039
<v Speaker 2>like twenty thousand, but official numbers is like much lower.

1641
01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I think that it was like fifteen hundred. Was the

1642
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Project Paper Club, Yeah it was sixteen hundred. Sorry I

1643
01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:58.119
<v Speaker 2>was off by one hundred, So it was sixteen hundred

1644
01:31:58.119 --> 01:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>German scientists, engineers and technicians.

1645
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's ways.

1646
01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:05.239
<v Speaker 2>So we Russia officially, now this is official. Now this

1647
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:08.560
<v Speaker 2>is just like we don't know all the other stuff.

1648
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>But officially Russia got well officially double the amount of yeah, engineer,

1649
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:20.239
<v Speaker 2>scientists and technicians.

1650
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I would say that they may have gotten volume, but

1651
01:32:22.680 --> 01:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we got quality because our Nazi scientists that we stole

1652
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:28.079
<v Speaker 1>were the best Nazi scientists, because we have a better

1653
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>propaganda machine, we have a better space program. We had

1654
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the best Nazis, our mk Ultra program much more effective

1655
01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:37.479
<v Speaker 1>than the Russians. I would say that we are we

1656
01:32:37.520 --> 01:32:41.439
<v Speaker 1>are as a as a people better propagandized than the

1657
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Russian people. So in your fucking face, Russia, it's called

1658
01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:47.239
<v Speaker 1>quantity over quality, or rather the other way around, quality

1659
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>over quantity.

1660
01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I want to rush through this, this last park.

1661
01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:55.479
<v Speaker 1>As I'm I'm going to try not to derail you.

1662
01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I got a show in fifteen minutes on my channel,

1663
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:01.840
<v Speaker 2>So got run through this bad boy real quick. So

1664
01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:07.439
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty the Perry Memorandum came about, which cut

1665
01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the funding for psycho energetics activities that didn't include intelligence

1666
01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:18.079
<v Speaker 2>applications efforts. So in nineteen eighty one, a few months later,

1667
01:33:18.199 --> 01:33:23.239
<v Speaker 2>ACSI transferred Project grow Flame to INSCOM, which is the

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01:33:23.319 --> 01:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>United States Army Intelligence and Security Command. They combined their

1669
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:32.199
<v Speaker 2>efforts and this is another name switch name change. They

1670
01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:35.439
<v Speaker 2>and this wasn't the only time the unit had been

1671
01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:39.479
<v Speaker 2>transferred or combined. So the DA and Army Intelligence signed

1672
01:33:39.520 --> 01:33:43.359
<v Speaker 2>a joint grow Flame to implement a three year long program.

1673
01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:48.159
<v Speaker 2>So thedia's role in the joint operation was threat analysis

1674
01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:56.159
<v Speaker 2>countermeasures using established psychics through contracts with SRI, because they'd

1675
01:33:56.159 --> 01:34:03.279
<v Speaker 2>been working with SRI since seventy three. So Armies the

1676
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Army's inscommon role was to apply the remote viewing program,

1677
01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:13.520
<v Speaker 2>use as signed personnel, and to enhance capability. Now remember

1678
01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:15.520
<v Speaker 2>in the beginning of this whenever I said that everyone

1679
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>had their hands in the pot of this. Well, this

1680
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:23.119
<v Speaker 2>merging of the DA and Army Intelligence into one program

1681
01:34:23.920 --> 01:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>also created this merging of two other groups. It formalized

1682
01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:33.439
<v Speaker 2>the cooperations among the Secretary of the Army, the Army

1683
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>General Council and the Assistant Surgeon General for Medical R

1684
01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and D, and the Vice Chief of Staff of the Army,

1685
01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:45.359
<v Speaker 2>n SACIA and the Navy, But they were giving tasking

1686
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to Army Intelligence, right. So until nineteen eighty two the

1687
01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:53.720
<v Speaker 2>budget was cut to the program. They cut the funding

1688
01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:56.359
<v Speaker 2>to Grill Flame because they thought that the project had

1689
01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>been double funded. It had been double budgeted because they

1690
01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:03.680
<v Speaker 2>were doing this this co operation between DIA and Army Intelligence,

1691
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:08.479
<v Speaker 2>and they thought that the funding was coming from both

1692
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:11.600
<v Speaker 2>of them, right, and one was coming from Army Intelligence.

1693
01:35:11.640 --> 01:35:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Another was coming from DIA when they were just both

1694
01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:17.840
<v Speaker 2>working together on it, but they let the DIA complete

1695
01:35:17.880 --> 01:35:21.399
<v Speaker 2>their third year. So at the end of nineteen eighty two,

1696
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Inscom Army Intelligence terminated their former involvement with grill Flame

1697
01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:31.479
<v Speaker 2>and the DIA, So the Army splits from the DIA

1698
01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:35.319
<v Speaker 2>and the Army opens up another program. See this gets

1699
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>so crazy and so convoluted. It's going to be really

1700
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:40.880
<v Speaker 2>great in documentary style format because you'll be able to

1701
01:35:41.079 --> 01:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>see the documents and get all the information and understand

1702
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it right. But Army Intelligence opened up another special access

1703
01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:54.760
<v Speaker 2>program called Center Lane. So in nineteen eighty three, doctor

1704
01:35:54.840 --> 01:36:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Richard what is this, doctor Richard Rollinger Rullinger or something

1705
01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>like that, he signed a memorandum allowing the resources to

1706
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:08.720
<v Speaker 2>be used to maintain the support of Army Center Lane program.

1707
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:11.760
<v Speaker 2>So he revised the PERI memorandum to cut the funding

1708
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.560
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty with the funding by the Security and

1709
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Investigative Activity. So in nineteen eighty three, the Army Remote

1710
01:36:18.880 --> 01:36:23.359
<v Speaker 2>Viewing Special Access program Center Lane was decided again that

1711
01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>it should be combined with DiiA. So in nineteen eighty

1712
01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:31.119
<v Speaker 2>four was decided that the Center Lane Special Access program

1713
01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:35.239
<v Speaker 2>ran by the Army should be combined with DIA's grow

1714
01:36:35.279 --> 01:36:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Flame unit again. So by nineteen eighty five the transfer

1715
01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>from the Army Center Lane project, the Special Access Center

1716
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Lane program was then combined with DIA's Growth Flame program

1717
01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and it became known as a DoD Special Access Program,

1718
01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and the funding was restored because it was a pure

1719
01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:57.199
<v Speaker 2>intelligence and data collection program. And then we got another

1720
01:36:57.279 --> 01:37:03.199
<v Speaker 2>name change. So that name what's called Sunstreak. That's where

1721
01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:06.479
<v Speaker 2>this document is talking about. That's out there now on

1722
01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:10.800
<v Speaker 2>the CIA's website Operations Sunstreak. And if you read through

1723
01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that document, you'll see that everything that I'm seeing up

1724
01:37:14.039 --> 01:37:20.720
<v Speaker 2>until this point is one real and legitimate. So Sunstreak

1725
01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:24.960
<v Speaker 2>was to undertake operational intelligence application using a aspect of

1726
01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:28.159
<v Speaker 2>psycho energetics known as remote viewing. Now it also states

1727
01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:32.560
<v Speaker 2>in this document not only the Soviet threat, like I

1728
01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>stated earlier, but that we need to collect intelligence data

1729
01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:42.640
<v Speaker 2>on foreign targets. So the program ran under Sunstreak until

1730
01:37:42.720 --> 01:37:45.279
<v Speaker 2>ninety one, and then it was changed to Stargate by

1731
01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Dell Graph, which I've had on my show several names.

1732
01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Several times. He changed the name out of his own

1733
01:37:51.479 --> 01:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>words because it felt like that Stargate described what they

1734
01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>were doing better with like the human potential aspect of

1735
01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>what they were doing. Ninety five, the program was then

1736
01:38:02.239 --> 01:38:06.159
<v Speaker 2>to be transferred to the CIA from the DoD UH

1737
01:38:06.199 --> 01:38:09.399
<v Speaker 2>and d IA. CIA got their hands on it. They

1738
01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Speaker 2>said that no intelligence data had ever been collected from

1739
01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:16.000
<v Speaker 2>the program and they shut it down, which obviously isn't

1740
01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the case. If you if you read through these documents,

1741
01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:22.720
<v Speaker 2>you would know that that is one not factual. That

1742
01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:26.840
<v Speaker 2>they did get highly good intelligence data out of the

1743
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:29.960
<v Speaker 2>program and they turned out to be very accurate. But

1744
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:32.479
<v Speaker 2>they shut it down anyway.

1745
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's just that they thought that it was fruitless.

1746
01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>That's why they allegedly shut it down.

1747
01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I I have a different theory on the

1748
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:47.319
<v Speaker 2>reason why they shut it down. I think that they

1749
01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>shut it down because again we're out of the realm

1750
01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>of documents now the documents are over. This is my

1751
01:38:52.920 --> 01:38:55.720
<v Speaker 2>personal opinion and my personal thoughts. I think that they

1752
01:38:56.199 --> 01:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>the CIA terminated the Stargate pro because they already had

1753
01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>they either already had a program that they were working with,

1754
01:39:06.079 --> 01:39:08.479
<v Speaker 2>or somebody else had a program, or they were going

1755
01:39:08.520 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>to start up a new program. They're going to do

1756
01:39:11.239 --> 01:39:14.199
<v Speaker 2>something different. They found a different application for the remote viewing.

1757
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:18.560
<v Speaker 2>It's not just collecting intelligence data anymore. Is something way

1758
01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>more nefarious, and they they can't take the people that

1759
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>was a part of the Stargate program into a new program.

1760
01:39:28.920 --> 01:39:31.800
<v Speaker 3>What do you think about the new Stargate program? Is

1761
01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>there any overlap or like why even name it the

1762
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:38.159
<v Speaker 3>same thing? It's I mean, most of these names don't

1763
01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:40.600
<v Speaker 3>really correlate to the projects that they're actually doing. But

1764
01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:42.359
<v Speaker 3>I just found a weird.

1765
01:39:42.119 --> 01:39:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Grill something real flame, real flame, Like, how does that

1766
01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:48.920
<v Speaker 1>even apply? Yeah, it seems like they just pick random

1767
01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:51.479
<v Speaker 1>names sometimes. But I don't know what about this one,

1768
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:53.079
<v Speaker 1>this new project Stargate.

1769
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the it's interesting with the name. I

1770
01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>mean I think that it's some kind of off your scale,

1771
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:04.359
<v Speaker 2>like they're trying to off skate like for people trying

1772
01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:08.199
<v Speaker 2>to like look into the Stargate remote viewing program. So

1773
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:11.159
<v Speaker 2>they just named this Stargate, I mean Stargate. It became

1774
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>like super popular. You know, you have the Stargate TV show,

1775
01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:20.399
<v Speaker 2>you have Stargate SG one like things like that, and

1776
01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:25.479
<v Speaker 2>it's impossible for Dell Graph was just talking about this

1777
01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the last time that I had him on He was like,

1778
01:40:28.680 --> 01:40:34.079
<v Speaker 2>it was impossible for these people to know about this

1779
01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:37.319
<v Speaker 2>program when all these TV shows and all these all

1780
01:40:37.359 --> 01:40:39.079
<v Speaker 2>this stuff was, you know, coming out.

1781
01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:40.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's the same thing. If you want to try

1782
01:40:40.920 --> 01:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to find if Walt Disney is cryogenically frozen, all you're

1783
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:46.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna get is Disney's frozen, you know what I mean.

1784
01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Like whether or not that's true, I don't know, But

1785
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I look at proct.

1786
01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Try and look up looking glass technology too. You're gonna

1787
01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:54.920
<v Speaker 2>get Alice in Wonderland through the lookings.

1788
01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>It seems like there might be a connection, just because

1789
01:40:58.640 --> 01:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>through all of this research that is really parallel to yours, writer,

1790
01:41:02.479 --> 01:41:05.039
<v Speaker 1>we found that there is an implant aspect to it.

1791
01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Whether it's a dental implant or maybe uh you know,

1792
01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:11.439
<v Speaker 1>metal that settles in the brain through inoculations, but it

1793
01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>seems to help, uh, the victim in this case tune

1794
01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>into these frequencies. And if you look into Project Stargate,

1795
01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it's this unholy union of m rn A technology and

1796
01:41:23.239 --> 01:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>UH and AI and who's leading the whole AI charge?

1797
01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:30.479
<v Speaker 1>But elon, who wants to put something in your head?

1798
01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:34.079
<v Speaker 1>It's an implant, right, And so I should watch.

1799
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:37.560
<v Speaker 2>The you guys should watch the new episode the first

1800
01:41:37.600 --> 01:41:40.479
<v Speaker 2>episode of the new season of Black Mirror.

1801
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I heard that that came out. That's an interesting

1802
01:41:43.960 --> 01:41:44.399
<v Speaker 1>thing to say.

1803
01:41:44.439 --> 01:41:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Why why have you guys seen Have you guys seen sovereigns?

1804
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:48.199
<v Speaker 4>No?

1805
01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I heard it was I haven't seen Wild Wild.

1806
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.119
<v Speaker 2>But the first episode of the new season of Black

1807
01:41:55.199 --> 01:41:59.279
<v Speaker 2>Mirror is essentially it has to do with like bees

1808
01:41:59.680 --> 01:42:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and like this woman is a teacher. She's like teaching

1809
01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:05.479
<v Speaker 2>grade schoolers. She's talking about bees and how all the

1810
01:42:05.520 --> 01:42:11.720
<v Speaker 2>bees were replaced with like artificial robot bees, and then

1811
01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:14.479
<v Speaker 2>she would get these headaches and stuff, and then she

1812
01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:17.600
<v Speaker 2>got like a tumor or whatever, and then she went

1813
01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:21.279
<v Speaker 2>into a coma. And this doctor shows up at the

1814
01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:25.640
<v Speaker 2>hospital and is telling her husband that there's this new

1815
01:42:26.560 --> 01:42:29.159
<v Speaker 2>there's this new program out there to where we can

1816
01:42:29.159 --> 01:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>put a chip inside of her brain and it'll give

1817
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>her the ability to like be, but she's going to

1818
01:42:35.319 --> 01:42:38.479
<v Speaker 2>be connected to the servers, right, and the servers are

1819
01:42:38.520 --> 01:42:42.239
<v Speaker 2>only in this specific area, so she goes out of

1820
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:45.079
<v Speaker 2>bounds of this specific area, then she's going to slip

1821
01:42:45.079 --> 01:42:49.319
<v Speaker 2>back into the coma. So it's essentially like an Internet thing,

1822
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh, well, it's only three hundred dollars

1823
01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>a month. Right, so he signs her up for it.

1824
01:42:55.319 --> 01:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>She's okay, and she's super tired and super sleepy, right

1825
01:42:59.720 --> 01:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the man, I don't want to ruin it all.

1826
01:43:02.840 --> 01:43:03.000
<v Speaker 4>Bit.

1827
01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>But she essentially starts speaking ads like she just starts

1828
01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:13.159
<v Speaker 2>ship showing out ads. She's like, oh, yeah, get your

1829
01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:17.039
<v Speaker 2>lube from uh the loub Center. There's one hundred times

1830
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:20.199
<v Speaker 2>better than any other lube, like like all this crazy shit.

1831
01:43:20.640 --> 01:43:22.359
<v Speaker 2>And then they go to the lady and was like,

1832
01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>what is going on? Like she's just spitting out ads

1833
01:43:24.920 --> 01:43:27.439
<v Speaker 2>like every like twenty thirty minutes and then she's then

1834
01:43:27.479 --> 01:43:30.319
<v Speaker 2>the lady's like, oh, well you're on the base here.

1835
01:43:30.800 --> 01:43:32.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, amazing.

1836
01:43:32.840 --> 01:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, dude, what if there's a free version of Neurolink

1837
01:43:35.479 --> 01:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, yeah, it's free, you can get it

1838
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:38.760
<v Speaker 1>for free. But that's what's gonna happen to you. You're

1839
01:43:38.760 --> 01:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna be running ads that Israel. Have you tried manscape

1840
01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:45.279
<v Speaker 1>running ads for the.

1841
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:49.239
<v Speaker 2>For the patriots my patriots?

1842
01:43:50.520 --> 01:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit? Well look look I know you got to

1843
01:43:53.479 --> 01:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>fly rider. It's refreshing to have somebody who actually has

1844
01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>their handle on the information we've spoken to these people

1845
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:03.439
<v Speaker 1>who has access to the documents, UH confirm a lot

1846
01:44:03.479 --> 01:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of you know what we've suspected but refused to do

1847
01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:07.079
<v Speaker 1>any meaningful research on.

1848
01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:07.720
<v Speaker 2>UH.

1849
01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:09.720
<v Speaker 1>So it's nice to have It's nice to have you

1850
01:44:10.600 --> 01:44:13.279
<v Speaker 1>on our show and to share this, but I know

1851
01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:15.199
<v Speaker 1>you got to fly, so let's bring this in for

1852
01:44:15.239 --> 01:44:18.039
<v Speaker 1>a landing writer. Where can everybody find your work, including

1853
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:18.840
<v Speaker 1>your documentaries?

1854
01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me on, gentlemen, really appreciate it. It

1855
01:44:22.079 --> 01:44:24.760
<v Speaker 2>was a wonderful conversation. I always love talking about the

1856
01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>subject that's very near and dear to my heart. And

1857
01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:31.760
<v Speaker 2>because I've looked into it, I've talked to the people

1858
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:34.560
<v Speaker 2>like you were mentioned, You've read the documents, so it's uh.

1859
01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:37.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's really important to get the details

1860
01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>of it and the history of the program and how

1861
01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:41.600
<v Speaker 2>it worked and all the name changes and all the

1862
01:44:41.640 --> 01:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>different things and the.

1863
01:44:42.479 --> 01:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>World changes were huge because that you run into that often.

1864
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh MK, Ultra stopped, you know, whatever year it's supposedly stopped.

1865
01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like none of it stops. It just changes. They

1866
01:44:51.960 --> 01:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>get rid of the old crew, they bring in a

1867
01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:57.359
<v Speaker 1>new crew. It's compartmentalized. The change it's a shell. Yeah,

1868
01:44:57.399 --> 01:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>it's all of it is just obfuscation. That's that's really

1869
01:44:59.840 --> 01:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>what happening here at the end of the day, and

1870
01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so that was a hugely important I think.

1871
01:45:05.399 --> 01:45:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys very much. You can find me on

1872
01:45:07.199 --> 01:45:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Raised by Giants on YouTube. I'm getting ready to go

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<v Speaker 2>live here in like five minutes on my channel and

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<v Speaker 2>any and all podcast platforms, and yeah, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Trump's tariffs today because freaking everyone's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's tariffs. So I'm during a little round table and

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's tariffs, Baby, we're gonna talk about it. But thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for having me on. Guys. People like to reach out

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<v Speaker 2>tomately personally. You can find me on Twitter at Raised

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<v Speaker 2>by Giants and Instagram at Raised by Giants pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah, man, all right, thank you again for coming on,

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<v Speaker 3>and good luck with your next show. I hope you

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<v Speaker 3>break some new ground with the Trump taris. All right, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see you next time. And in the meantime, pray

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<v Speaker 3>for Xerox. He's having a hard time out there. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know all of the yeah, all of the Xeroxes,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, obasim it comply. We'll see you guys later.