WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.919 So what is the deal with this territory? How did 2 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:10.679 to say the least right, I would like to know 3 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:13.400 what the deal is with this territory for sure. How 4 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:18.399 did Terry Boulder discoverer Ron Fuller and Company come into ownership? Well, 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.719 in fall of nineteen seventy four, as Ron stud talked 6 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:23.000 about in that clip, he left the Florida territory and 7 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.800 bought in to Knoxville which was on the market. He 8 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.800 was only twenty six at the time. Knoxville County and no, no, 9 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.640 that would be Knox County, Oh, Knox County. Sorry, be 10 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:35.920 a much different racket for another pro wrestler. But coming 11 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:38.159 from the family, he thought he could own a territory 12 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.359 at just twenty six years old. I mean, think about that, 13 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:43.719 he's buying that's insane. He admits he knew nothing about 14 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.320 owning a business at the time and he was kind 15 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:49.039 of struggling up until seventy four. There was a promoter 16 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:50.920 by the name of John Cazanna who would run the 17 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:53.960 office in Knoxville, and he had an alliance with Nick Gulis, 18 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.399 who was sort of the predecessor promoter in Memphis to 19 00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:00.439 Jerry Jarrett and had a tremendous reputation for under paying. 20 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.000 I say tremendous with tongue from your cheek. Yes, And 21 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:06.480 when he decided to sell the territory, Fuller stepped in 22 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:10.400 and brought his own talent aboard. At the same time, 23 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:12.439 a promoter by the name of Lee Fields was looking 24 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:15.719 to sell his Gulf Coast Championship Wrestling in Alabama and 25 00:01:16.079 --> 00:01:20.120 the Florida Panhandle, and so Fuller purchased that territory as well, 26 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:23.640 and all of a sudden, what we consider Southeastern were 27 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:26.920 two separate territories but owned by the same wet behind 28 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:31.719 the ears, but bright eyed and entrepreneurial pro wrestler, Ron Fuller. 29 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:35.920 And so that's absurd, yes, And there was no overlap 30 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:37.959 in terms of like the TV. So you're running two 31 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:42.799 separate circuits with different storylines, with different talent, shooting different interviews, 32 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:46.239 two brands. I understand that he started that, shitten, I 33 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:50.680 understand that. I appreciate that. I exploit that, right. I'm 34 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.599 a brand exploitationist. So just you wait, there's gonna be 35 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:55.599 a ton coming down the pike for you to exploit. 36 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:59.959 Vince here on the complete hull of cogin femininit well 37 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:05.280 exploitation of the loins of individuals. Exploitation of the lowins 38 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:09.000 is a shirt. What does the east stand for? After all? 39 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:18.199 In w worldwide exploitations? You kids, stop brings worldwide exploitation. Yeah, well, 40 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.000 I like to definitely add of the loins, so we 41 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:27.000 know exactly what our prime focal point is loinage, right 42 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.000 and so right before buying the territory, Jerry Jarrett in 43 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.759 early seventies taken over Memphis, taking the reins from Goole 44 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:36.639 lissen Herb Welch, who was obviously I think a grandfather 45 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.960 to Ron Fuller or a great uncle or something like that. 46 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.159 And that territory covered Louisville and Evanston and Lexington as well. 47 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:45.479 Could he not decide what do you mean whether he 48 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.360 was a grandfather or an uncle. I just didn't care 49 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:49.439 to look it up. Oh okay, yeah, no, I wasn't 50 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.680 putting those words in his mouth. Certainly he knows all 51 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.360 the Welches are related. That's all you have to know. 52 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:02.080 Great Rawberry, BlackBerry. They were nowhere nearest prominent though, as 53 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:10.039 the Nebraska area promoters, the Smuckers and that sound like 54 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:15.520 a wrestling promoter, Na Herbs Smucker or Gerald Smucker. Jerald 55 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:17.680 Smucker was not paying talent on the up and up. 56 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:22.479 Jerald Smucker was skimming off the gate. Okay, nor was 57 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:24.159 his product. Product was also not. 58 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:24.759 On the up and up. 59 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:30.199 So Jerry Jaredson controls. You got two really young promoters 60 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.800 who were from wrestling families, who were young in the 61 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.159 business in terms of even wrestling themselves, starting on the 62 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.400 administrative side, running things, booking talent, and look being plugged 63 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.000 into pop culture. You'd have to think more than you know, 64 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:45.159 the forty and fifty year old promoters were. It makes 65 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:47.879 some sense that someone as young as Ryan relatively speaking, 66 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:50.759 would be under what would be hip to the fact that, 67 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:52.639 you know, Incredible Hulk is one of the hottest things 68 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.520 on television for instance. I'd like to think that makes sense. 69 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:59.599 And so yeah, I can't imagine the older guys watching 70 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:01.960 that kind of stuff. In a case it becomes relevant. 71 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.719 Don't forget. Jerry Jarrett's territory as he took over also 72 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.319 included Louisville, Kentucky, Evansville, Indiana, and Lexington, Kentucky. And in 73 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:10.439 nineteen seventy seven, Jerry Jarrett, of course, the father of 74 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.039 Jeff Jarrett, went into business for himself and took the 75 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.639 northern loop of what was considered the Memphis territory from 76 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:20.759 Nicholas and Roy Welch. And so one day Ron Fuller 77 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.560 gets a call from Jerry Jarrett. He was similar in 78 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.040 terms of being a young motor and also kind of 79 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:28.319 struggling to get his footing early in a territory that look, 80 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:29.800 it was for sale for a reason, right, and he 81 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:31.680 was able to buy it because it wasn't doing that well. 82 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.439 And Jerry Jarrett said to Ron Fuller, come to Memphis. 83 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:36.399 We're gonna put the belt on you. You could work Memphis, 84 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.800 only not a whole territory. This is, of course, before 85 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:42.079 Ron bought his own territory, to be clear, But this 86 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.240 establishes the relationship between Jerry Jarrett and Ron Fuller because 87 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.839 Jerry got started a little bit earlier in terms of 88 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:48.720 ownership than Ron. 89 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:49.439 And so. 90 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.800 How much Ron asks thousand dollars every Memphis show plus 91 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.839 plane on airfare, So much for guaranteed money not existing 92 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:01.480 to the Monday Night Wars. Yeah, right, guaranteed money has 93 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:04.439 always existed in Now The question is how many dates 94 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:06.519 did he actually work? I didn't count them all, but 95 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:08.399 quite a bit he had a okay, had a several 96 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.360 year run, Yeah for sure, because you know, one thousand 97 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:15.279 dollars a shot sounds great until you're only working one 98 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.600 shot a year. Well on a thousand dollars a shot sounds 99 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:25.759 great until you're Rick Flair and the fucking ICU. So 100 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:27.639 you know, Ron Fuller's thinking ahead. He's like, you know, 101 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:29.879 it won't hurt if I have promotional aspirations in my 102 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:31.720 own right to create a relationship with this guy who's 103 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.199 also running a territory and we could share talent, and 104 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.279 Memphis had great talent as far as Ron Fuller was 105 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.279 concerned at the time. So generally twenty second nineteen seventy 106 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.199 nine the onset of the year of Terry Bolea arriving 107 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:43.959 in this territory. But you know, a couple of months 108 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.639 before he showed up, he showed up in March was 109 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.519 the first night that Rob Fuller, the brother of Ron Fuller, 110 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.959 Colonel Robert Parker ended up in Memphis as part of 111 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:55.399 this exchange that's going on, and a lot of the 112 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.319 guys ended up going there from the Southeast territory, and 113 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:00.480 suddenly there was this very clear linkage thanks to the 114 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:03.439 alliance between Ron Fuller, Rob Fuller and Jerry Jarrett and 115 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:06.160 of course Jerry Lawler as well, who was Jerry Jared's 116 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:08.839 business partner, sharing a lot of talent between Memphis and 117 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.920 Southeast Gulf Coast, a lot of groups of guys going 118 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:15.759 back and forth to help each other out. Sure, Ron 119 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.519 Fuller counted as many as seven Southeastern stars on one 120 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.399 of the first cards of nineteen seventy nine in Memphis, 121 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.079 and Rob brought in for a second there, I thought 122 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.600 you said that Rob Fuller counted as was counted as 123 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:31.759 seven talent or something. That's seven grand right, that's right. 124 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.839 Sounds like I'll tell you I could be seven people 125 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.639 watch put enough looking simon, Oh my god, you know 126 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.120 that's what I do. That turns out to just be 127 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:47.439 him doing you know, the Colonel Parker from Elvis Days, 128 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:50.720 not how they sound at all, which is tremendous stuff. 129 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.800 So February there was a coward. That's the only way 130 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.279 he sounds. No, of course, well laps fans know this 131 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.480 laps fans of okay on that, yes, right, that's very true. 132 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:04.600 February of seventy nine there was a Memphis card with 133 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:07.680 eleven stars from Ron Fuller Southeastern territory. March twenty six 134 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.399 of that year, there were eight Southeastern stars on the card, 135 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:12.600 and by March twenty oh, here we're talking about five 136 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:16.160 stars being the limit. No, I know, well, no, we're 137 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:19.680 breaking the scale here. This is Ocada Omega. This is 138 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.040 the Ocada Omega of stars being shared in nineteen seventy 139 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:28.199 nine between Memphis and Southeastern as that were oh good. 140 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:30.319 By March twenty six of that year, just two months 141 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:33.879 after those first departures from Southeastern to Memphis began, there 142 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.959 are a total of ten wrestlers, including Ron Fuller's brother, 143 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.600 Robert the Booker, as well as wrestler there permanently in Memphis, 144 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:42.519 or at least, you know, without a definitive end date. 145 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.120 And I mean it's kind of tough because the way 146 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:50.680 Ron Fuller puts it on his podcast is not really 147 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:52.000 like he had a whole hell of a lot of 148 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:54.040 choice in how many or who he lost. It seemed 149 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:56.560 to be like shortly after kind of working this out, 150 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.439 he kind of lost control of Memphis, ability to call 151 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.600 on people. And he considers that these wrestlers that went 152 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:04.759 to Memphis is kind of losses for him, losing eight 153 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:07.480 of what he considered his top guys in two months 154 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.199 because you know, Memphis was hurting and part of the 155 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.360 reason they you know, his brother is up there booking. 156 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:15.240 He wants to help his brother, so he sends him 157 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.680 Mongolian Stomper, he sends him Toro Tanaka. Yes, that Toro Tanaka. 158 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:22.360 He said, wow, Don Carson, Tony Charles, Jimmy Golden, the Future, 159 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:25.480 Bunk house Buck, the Assassin, Randy Colly, buzz Sawyer of course, 160 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:30.000 an absolute legend in the making. Who you know, petered 161 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.600 out as a star of the drug problems, uh account 162 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:34.840 by the name of Gorgeous George Junior. No relation to 163 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.279 the original Gorgeous George, of course, I'm sorry. What no 164 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:42.840 relation to the w CW Gorgeous George either, I'm I'm sorry. 165 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:46.639 Somebody actually had the balls to book a gorgeous George Junior. 166 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:47.039 Oh yeah. 167 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.240 He was a pretty overheel in that part of the country. 168 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:52.320 Oh yeah, all right, yep, I'm not saying it was here. 169 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:55.360 This was the great Shikes, but oh yeah, the mainstay 170 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:56.879 heel look kind of looked like him, you know, kind 171 00:08:56.879 --> 00:08:59.679 of had the blonde locks and everything. Mike Stallings, Rip 172 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:01.759 Smith and his and his brother Rob did he look 173 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:05.600 like the one in uh In Uh Maestro Uh. Now 174 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.039 the the fucking off of that awful movie, the one 175 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:12.000 we just saw the woman wrestler, Queen of the Ring. 176 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:17.879 They play back gorgeous George. Probably it's probably closer, right, Yeah, 177 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.200 probably right. I mean not only towards Naka Boss. Mister 178 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:23.440 Fuji was in Southeastern Coast when Hogan was. So he's 179 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.399 running in Owens, He's running into everyone that would form 180 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.720 kind of the heart of the mid to late seventies 181 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.480 w WWF territory, kind of like the last years of 182 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.039 Vince Senior's rule, and so crowds are dropping dramatically to 183 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.440 hear Ron Fuller tell it, in his territory after sending 184 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:41.360 all of that star power up to Memphis to help out. 185 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.159 And in Memphis, according to Ron, of course, was was 186 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:47.679 doing quite well and so a drastic jump with a 187 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:49.519 lot of these guys coming up there. You also have 188 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.279 Jerry Lawler and Buildundi in the territory, and he remembers 189 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:54.679 talking to his brother Rob a heck of a lot 190 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.679 during this whole time frame. You know, one of the 191 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.519 houses house business. It's so refreshing to hear the guy 192 00:09:59.559 --> 00:10:04.440 talk about like attendance and keeping particular notes on gate. 193 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:07.440 It's like sometimes we as wrestling fans think like, why 194 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.320 do we talk about numbers. Why don't we talk about ratings, 195 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.120 Why do we talk about money? Why do we care 196 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.960 about gates? And it's like, because the people who run 197 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.279 the business cared about nothing else besides what they could 198 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.360 pencil in their little books. Because because I'll tell you 199 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.440 what that what that means to me, that that dictates 200 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.679 something because what it always numbers are so fucking important 201 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:31.000 because what they do is they tell you what was 202 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.919 actually working right and what wasn't working at the time 203 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:36.039 in the business where you had no choice right to 204 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:38.840 lean into what was working. You couldn't pretend that something 205 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.559 was working that wasn't because the money was guaranteed, right, 206 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.399 I mean, and even then, I mean it's like, you know, right, 207 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.519 but the still even even without the you know, the 208 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:52.639 the financial part of it, but looking at the numbers, 209 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.720 like looking at who's watching it, it's like you also know, yes, okay, obviously, 210 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.960 like now you get guaranteed money through all these different 211 00:11:00.279 --> 00:11:05.759 these different uh pay yours for WWE. But it's like 212 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.600 who's watching it and you watch you hear about the 213 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.399 dwindling audiences on Netflix and whatever, and it's like that 214 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:16.360 that that matters, and it matters here too, like it 215 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.840 the money matters, but also who's coming to see your shows? 216 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:21.720 How many people are seeing your shows? Is the audience full? 217 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.440 Is it half full? Is nobody there? These are all 218 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.879 incredibly important things, so we can know exactly what was 219 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.200 working when and at what time and where. I find 220 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.080 it fascinating. Anyone who does it's a fucking idiot. Well, 221 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:38.879 I mean it's almost like even if you try to 222 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.279 enjoy wrestling without any of that context, you're going to 223 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.639 be so frustrated because you're not going to understand why 224 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.559 things happen the way they happen. You can enjoy wrestling 225 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.039 without without with you know, it's all the people in 226 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:51.559 these tickets like it. You can enjoy it without knowing 227 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:53.720 the numbers. You can enjoy with knowing the numbers. But 228 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.720 as as a as as someone who wants to understand 229 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:02.120 it on a deeper level than just watching the correct 230 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.399 the matches and the stories and whatever, you have to 231 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:08.600 this is this is this is the business. I've always said, like, 232 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.519 this is it. They have they becount their lucky start 233 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:13.159 that you complain about the Internet fans and at rest 234 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:17.080 of they think they're fucking God above that. Wrestling fans 235 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:19.480 get this interested in how it really works behind the scenes, 236 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:21.639 because if they did exactly, they would be done by 237 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:23.759 the time they're twelve years old, because they're not fucking 238 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:29.759 you know, they're not impressionable children with even underdeveloped prefrontal cortex. 239 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:32.399 It's going to be interesting to see, you know, our 240 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:35.720 generation's kids, you know, because like, what's going to happen, 241 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:40.039 are you know, our generation and and the those born 242 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.519 you know, probably in two thousand, yes, you know, after 243 00:12:44.600 --> 00:12:49.639 these after these generations die off, after we die off, 244 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:52.240 what's going to be the fate of the business, Given 245 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.159 that our kids are the ones who watched it for 246 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.080 five seconds and then quit and got enough of it, 247 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.639 and we're like, I'm done, I don't want to watch 248 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:04.120 it ever again. Who knows how many how many kids 249 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:07.080 are getting hooked these days? Well, here's the thing. You 250 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.519 can't get hooked these days without also, I don't think 251 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.200 becoming aware of all of the business industry information. Right, 252 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:15.440 it was the last generation that could enjoy a distance 253 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.519 from that. We had to seek it out. It didn't 254 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:19.440 smack us in the face because we followed ww on 255 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.200 Twitter and then it's over. Exactly. That's what. You're absolutely 256 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:25.240 bombarded with content farming around like this kind of stuff. 257 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.000 And I guess my whole point is this is not 258 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:31.080 some new school like nerd modern fan obsession. What we do. 259 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.120 This is actually the most time hotter tradition in the 260 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:34.799 business of boiling it all down to the house. 261 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:35.039 Now. 262 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:36.960 The difference, of course at the time is for Ron Fuller, 263 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.480 he's playing the same buildings every week, pretty much the 264 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:42.399 same day every week, and he's working to the same audience. 265 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.960 He's broadcasting his television in the same way. And you 266 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:46.960 can tell when you have that kind of format who 267 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.200 is drawing and who is it. There's no fucking argument, 268 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.080 of course, you know, and you're talking seven eight thousand 269 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:56.080 seat buildings, four thousand seat buildings. Someone who you know 270 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.399 does two thousand more people than the last week is 271 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.639 a fucking superhero to you a fuck exactly. He You 272 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.120 don't have to fill stadiums, okay, but when Terry Boulder 273 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:06.600 comes along all of a sudden for the first time 274 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:08.399 in the history of this promotion, you better believe their 275 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.519 book in a football stadium for the Harley Race match, 276 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.480 which we're gonna get to. Wow, but was it a 277 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:15.600 high school football stadium? 278 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:15.799 Yes? 279 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:18.480 It was all right, there we go. Yeah, they didn't 280 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:24.200 exactly have a pro college football stadium in Dothan. So 281 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:27.279 Dothan sounds like a character in fucking ten Commandments. I 282 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:29.200 gotta go now by the time I'm done with this, 283 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:31.519 I gotta go to Dothan. So tell me what the 284 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.840 best restaurant is. I'm coming. I want the best ribs. 285 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:36.960 I'm gonna I'm gonnay. It's probably one of those gas 286 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:40.000 station restaurant. Yeah, low and slow exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Like 287 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:43.679 the guy's name is like Smiley or something that just 288 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:45.480 he doesn't have a name, He just has a nickname, 289 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:50.080 right right, smiles barbecue. Right. So Ron Floorer says, you know, 290 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:51.240 I felt young and dumb and I thought I was 291 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:53.360 bulletproof until the business rolled over on me. And so 292 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.200 you have Southeastern Knoxville and Southeastern Gulf Coast running at 293 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:00.240 the same time. Rolling Brother get that. Well, he needs 294 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:01.960 a booker for Knoxville because he's spending most of his 295 00:15:02.039 --> 00:15:06.200 time in and round Dothan, where that first acquisition of 296 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.039 his was based. And so he needs a booker for Knoxville, 297 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:11.799 so he taps who Bob Roup. Bob Roup, of course, 298 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:13.879 of course I'm gonna know very well kind of the 299 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:17.440 enforcer policeman in the championshiprest from Florida Territory when Eddie 300 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:19.600 Graham was running the show and someone that hul Kegan 301 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.240 became acquainted with not only playing a raw rold band 302 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.279 at the Imperial Room, but once he's got into the 303 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:27.360 Sportatorium and started learning the ropes after they hear Matsud initiation, 304 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:28.679 he did work out a bit with Bob Roup and 305 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:30.480 got to know Bob well, and Bob got to know 306 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:32.720 him about well, but got to know him, and all 307 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:34.519 of a sudden, Bob Rup has got the book in 308 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:37.200 the territory that Terry Boullay is heading for. This is 309 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:39.840 in seventy eight, the year before Bolly arrived in this 310 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.679 part of the country. Bob Rroup got the book in 311 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.919 Knoxville to help out Ron Fuller. And this will be 312 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:47.639 extremely important later because Bob Roup is going to be 313 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:51.399 the guy that I I don't think it's uncharitable about 314 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:53.120 it this way, that's going to try to fuck Ron 315 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:54.720 Fuller in the ass and take it all from him 316 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.600 take it off. Yes, Bob Roup wants ownership, baby, but 317 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.279 Ron Fuller didn't know. Why shouldn't is before why shouldn't 318 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.080 he exactly because this is the wrestling business. But Ron 319 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.080 Fuller did not know and found out later, is that 320 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:09.639 Bob Group came to him after being essentially banished from 321 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:12.759 San Francisco where he tried to take over the existing 322 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.360 territory and we'll pull the rug out from under the 323 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:17.559 existing promoter's feet as well a power play to try 324 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:19.639 to take over the city and have it all to himself. 325 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:21.000 So there's a lot of money there if you can 326 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:26.000 pull it off, you know. So that's Ron's next. But 327 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:27.960 he knew Ron Fuller from Florida. Did Bob Roup when 328 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.559 Ron Fuller was working there in the early seventies, Freddy Graham. 329 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.320 They knew each other well and worked together and he 330 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:35.960 fell to good trust him and he felt like, you know, 331 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:37.320 he was a guy that knew the business well enough 332 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:39.440 to book the territory down the Gulf Coast. He picked, 333 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:41.799 of course Louis Tillett, who we've already talked about to 334 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:44.000 book that part of the territory. You know that in 335 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:48.159 did you know that in November in Dothan. They have 336 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.639 an annual National Peanut Festivals. So what you're saying is 337 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:57.360 I'm gonna go in November. Fucking right. And also, oh 338 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.159 they are also home here we go. You know we're 339 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.440 talking about it. How about this. Dothan is also home 340 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:09.119 to two professional barbecue competition I knew it. So what 341 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:12.039 are the state tri State Barbecue Festivals held in the 342 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.720 second weekend in April and is sanctioned by the Florida 343 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:21.680 Barbeq Association. There is a Florida Barbecue, the fbbb A, 344 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:28.839 the Oklahoma BBA sponsors j R. And then there is 345 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:33.400 the where's the other one? The oh, oh my god, 346 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:46.400 oh god almighty. In October they have porktober Q, october 347 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:50.680 Fest and october Fest and Kansas City Barbecue Society sanctioned event. 348 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:56.839 There is a Kansas City Barbecue Society. No funk that 349 00:17:57.079 --> 00:18:00.000 I'm going to the Dothan barbecue event in Kansas City. 350 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.440 I'm not going to the Kansas City want to go? 351 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:09.880 I wonder Harley Race was involved? Yeah, right, exactly. Wow. 352 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:12.160 Bob Armstrong, of course was a centerpiece star in that 353 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:13.799 part of the country. But by the time Ron Fuller 354 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:16.000 took the book. As he said in his podcast, Bob Armstrong, 355 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.160 he wasn't a big fan of him. Well, Bob Armstrong 356 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.279 wasn't a big fan of the selection of Bob Roup 357 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:24.440 in particular to book the Knoxville part of the territory, 358 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.039 and wasn't not the only one, according to Ron Fuller, 359 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:29.400 so Ron's kind of laying the groundwork for Bob Roup 360 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:31.559 to be the ultimate snake in this whole scenario. They 361 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.039 were dealing with some small houses in Knoxville, according to Ron, 362 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:36.680 and he started to feel after a while that Bob 363 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.119 Roup was intentionally booking weak cards. Almost the kind of 364 00:18:40.119 --> 00:18:42.079 thing you do to be able to build a case 365 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:44.160 to the boys that you know how to fucking ditch 366 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:48.680 this guy. I don't know, just I don't know this 367 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:50.799 guy's not doing you know, wait, wh they're trying to 368 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.240 kick who out Bob Rupert Ron Fuller, because I don't 369 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:56.799 know this guy, this Fuller guy, I'll tell you what, 370 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.720 he's full of shit, he ask me. I finished that. Yeah, 371 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:09.039 and here's too, ye. I'm gonna kick this guy on 372 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:12.400 the curb and then stomp his brains out because looks 373 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.039 filling shit. It was extremely simple, say what you will 374 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.200 about guaranteed payoffs. Percentage of the house went to the talent. 375 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.799 That's how it worked. So if you did ten thousand 376 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:23.839 dollars at the gate, twenty percent of that was split 377 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:26.079 amongst the boys, and everyone had their little games they 378 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:27.559 played to get a bigger cut. Of course, the main 379 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:31.240 event got the most. If the house was thirty thousand dollars, 380 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.880 everyone made three times the ten thousand. It was really, 381 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.599 like so easy to manipulate the situation because if you 382 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:40.240 booked cards to not do well, then the pie that 383 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:42.720 the talent got for payoffs was shrunk, and they're and 384 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.640 they're taking home less money, and pretty soon they're grumbling, 385 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:47.759 and pretty soon someone's got the bright idea of what 386 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:51.720 we could run this whole thing better than this absentee landlord. Motherfucker. Right, 387 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.559 And that's how you that's how you stage a coup 388 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.480 in the wrestling business, of course, and wrestler payoffs were 389 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.720 going down, according to Ron, And and there came a 390 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:01.559 point Bob Rupe stood up and said, you know what, 391 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.640 someone's stealing box office receipts. I know somebody that's your 392 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.599 sort of a I don't know you're Emissary Ron Fuller 393 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:10.200 that's down here. You know, the fucking Arnold Scoland or 394 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:14.319 whatever whoever you got handling the gate receipts. They should 395 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.400 be a lot higher than what we're being told they were. 396 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:22.480 And let the games begin, Let the games be so again. 397 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.880 I love I love that. It's so absolutely love that 398 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.839 best part of wrestling to me is the games these 399 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:31.960 guys play when they try to put on a suit 400 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.599 and tie and be real human beings as opposed well, right, 401 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:39.400 and it's like, it's this, it's this, it's this constant 402 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.920 I'm always fascinated with, Like I always want to know 403 00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:46.720 where that where's the threshold? Right where what is the 404 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:49.759 point where Bob Rup who comes in and is doing 405 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:51.559 his job, he decides, you know what, I can do 406 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:53.440 this better than he can. And I'm gonna fucking do 407 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:55.359 it better than he can. So I'm gonna stab this 408 00:20:55.400 --> 00:20:59.039 motherfucker in the back and the territory. So no matter 409 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.200 what happens, you're going to build the case that you 410 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:02.839 can do it better and that this guy's looking up. 411 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.599 You have no chance if you run full or to 412 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:07.319 satisfy this guy, I know, And that's why I'm like, 413 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:09.759 it's just it's amazing it's an amazing thing. And I 414 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:13.119 want to know where that ultimate decision is made. Right, 415 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:15.839 where's that decision made? When did Rupe say, you know what, 416 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:18.039 this is going to be mine and I'm going to 417 00:21:18.119 --> 00:21:20.480 take it. They know, they know pretext well in the 418 00:21:20.519 --> 00:21:25.119 wrestling business. Yeah, so yeah, indeed, so punk Rock. Wayne 419 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:27.680 Ferris comes in for Louis to Lette. He brings in 420 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:31.960 David Schultz was that was already there and some reflections here. 421 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:37.440 Uh this is from doctor D's book, Don't call Me Fake, which, 422 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.480 of course, uh well why not, right, I mean, so 423 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:43.640 John Stossel, could you're not you're not You're not a doctor. 424 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:49.920 I know exactly, don't call me a fake doctor. But 425 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:52.160 he remembered, you know, he remembered Sterling Golden. He wrote 426 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:54.279 in his book Sterling Golden was a six five musician, 427 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:56.119 a giant of a man with a long blonde hair 428 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:58.240 and a handlebar mustache who had a great physique and 429 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:00.440 a lot of potential. Sterling was spot by some of 430 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:02.240 the boys playing bass in a bar band, and they 431 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.640 invited him to give wrestling a try. On his first 432 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.720 day of training, Hero Matsuda snapped his leg, broke it 433 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:08.680 and told him if he still wanted to be a wrestler, 434 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:10.200 to go home, heal it up and come back. God, 435 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:11.920 we got to really fill space in your book with 436 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.079 Hulk Hogan story, Like how many people have done this? 437 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:14.319 Well? 438 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:16.599 You got to know that half of his book are 439 00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:18.519 stories of him being a bounty hunter and how he 440 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.680 almost got a television series out of it. And he's 441 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.960 telling like a bunch of stories way after his wrestling 442 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.920 career is over about chasing down criminals. And it's colorful stuff, 443 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:28.880 but it's a classic, like people are going to care 444 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:32.039 about more than what I did in pro wrestling bullshit. 445 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:32.319 You know. 446 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:35.759 So on his first day of training Gay he goes 447 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:38.920 over it all. That's kind of a different that's kind 448 00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:42.240 of a different take on it. This idea that he 449 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:45.279 told he told him to come back and start over, 450 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:47.279 and you know that Matsuita just told him go home 451 00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.519 and heal up. That was a that's a little part 452 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:51.880 of it that you never hear from anybody else, right, 453 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:55.000 that Mairo told him that, uh, we'll look forward to 454 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.079 seeing you again. I thought the whole point of breaking 455 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:00.240 the poor guy's leg was they wanted him out of there. Uh, 456 00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:02.920 but a little pat on the back, according to Dave Schultz, 457 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.839 as we continue that fucking rasham on that story. Oh 458 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:08.759 it really, I mean it's seriously, that is it is 459 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:13.359 a ramon. I mean honestly, it's like, honestly for this, 460 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.200 I know, seriously, just for all this bullshit, multiple perspectives, 461 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.960 multiple truths. That's right. Sterling was determined to succeed Schultz. Right, 462 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:26.680 and he came back and started a push brother. Maybe. 463 00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:29.440 I mean, that's not too far from Matt Suita, right. 464 00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:32.640 Sterling and I connected the day we met Schultz right, 465 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:34.519 and we became the best of friends. We had a 466 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:36.519 lot in common, and his iron sharpens iron. We brought 467 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:38.079 out the best in each other. He taught me a 468 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.880 great deal about working out. We sure did, and the 469 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:43.799 two of us pushed each other to become better. He 470 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:45.799 stayed in our home when he needed a place to crash. 471 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:47.759 He became a close friend of the family. He was 472 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:49.880 over at the house all the time. My daughter Jessica 473 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:51.759 adored him and loved to hear him play the guitar. 474 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:54.759 I want you to picture Terry Blea looking like he 475 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.599 did in seventy nine playing guitar for David Schultz's little daughter. 476 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.359 In Alabama. I can't I fucking cannot have and all that. 477 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.880 The picture in his book two of him with David 478 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.920 Schult's daughter, it's just to imagine Hulk being this kind 479 00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:09.119 of couch surfing yep, you know, like nobody you know, 480 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:14.240 to David Schultz is tremendous. I want to savor the 481 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.240 I want to savor every little morsel we get of 482 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:20.000 Terry Boleya before he's whole coast. I mean, I honestly, 483 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:23.519 this is like, these are the last little morsels of 484 00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.799 him being a human being, absolutely right. This is the 485 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.160 last morsels of him having to win people over, instead 486 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:30.440 of everyone trying to win him over. 487 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:30.880 M hm. 488 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.759 We said, what, no one's winning those going over, brother, 489 00:24:35.799 --> 00:24:41.920 I'm going over. That's true. No one whatever win over him, 490 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.359 not at all. We said goodbye. Schultz writes to Sterling Golden, 491 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.400 when my time was up in Florida. Uh, he means 492 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:50.839 by Florida, the Pensacola part of Gulf Coast. I packed 493 00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:53.599 the family up to head north of the border to Canada. Sterling, Yeah, 494 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:55.920 he went to work for for Stu Hart. After this, 495 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.440 did David Schultz. And Brett Hart loves David Schultz because 496 00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:02.279 of that love was the guy and in fact, when 497 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:05.720 so weird, the vice guys, the dark side guys, details 498 00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:07.960 from the territories. There was a lot of back and 499 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:10.880 forth about like who makes sense for Stampede it's still 500 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:13.519 alive and because it was such, it was a territory 501 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:16.920 with so many guys that had passed on and Dave 502 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:20.680 Schultz Brett Hart's gonna love having Dave Schultz there, and 503 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.039 that's crazy. He was the last guy you'd expect because 504 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.559 he has nothing Canadian about him, but he had great 505 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.400 stories from from being out there Tennessee boy right in 506 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:35.079 the in the the western Canadian winters. Bizarre. He said 507 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.039 goodbye is Sterling Golden. When my family my time was 508 00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:38.680 up in Florida, I packed the family up to head 509 00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:41.000 north of the border to Canada. Stirling would be moving 510 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.400 on himself to better opportunities. Our paths would converge again 511 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.599 in Minnesota and the two of us would battle our 512 00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.000 way to the very top of the business. But that's 513 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:50.960 still to come, isn't it? On the complete hol of Cogan, 514 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:53.720 Oh yes it is. And wait to get to many 515 00:25:55.279 --> 00:26:04.240 so Billy Spears, Billy Spears, who the answer to the 516 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:10.960 trivia question, who was Terry Blays first ever manager in 517 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:16.519 pro wrestling. Wow. Billy Spears is the heel manager with 518 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.880 the family stable that every territory had, be it a 519 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:24.799 Jimmy Hart's family, Bobby Heenan's family, Loue Albano's family, Every 520 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.359 territory had a version of this for the most part. 521 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.279 Kevin Sullivan had his tribe of He was a wrestler too, 522 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.240 who not quite an exclusively manager, but had his tribe 523 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.680 of weirdos following him around and to the Southeastern Gulf 524 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:39.200 Coast territory and nowhere else. Far as I can tell, 525 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:45.880 Billy Spears was that shit talking, power grabbing, muney grubbing 526 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.400 heel manager. He was the guy you put with your 527 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:53.839 next big superheel threat to talk for him. And there's 528 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.559 almost nothing that survives on this guy as far as videotape, 529 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.359 because he really didn't, as far as I can tell, 530 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:01.799 spread his wings at all past This territory, which is 531 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:05.240 we've discussed already, was very limited in its exposure and 532 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.799 definitely limited in terms of how much tape survives, So 533 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:09.880 I can't give you a great kind of flavor or 534 00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:13.240 sense or feeling on like how Billy Spears was as 535 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.599 a performer or or what it is he how he 536 00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:19.200 came across, like what his essence was. I can't tell 537 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:23.279 if he was more Heenan than he was I don't know, heart, 538 00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:26.440 or if he was more jeez, I don't know. I mean, 539 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:29.880 you go down the list you talk about like RedBerry 540 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.279 and some of these other managers. Just I'm just looking 541 00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:34.440 at pictures of him right now, and it's like in 542 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:39.079 in one picture he looks like Nick Bockwinkle. In another 543 00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:44.240 picture he looks like fucking looks a little bit of 544 00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:47.599 like Pat Patterson. Huh. And another one I can't he 545 00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.279 looks like he's got the face from from No Mercy, 546 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.720 like a face that was like copied and pasted for 547 00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:56.240 No Mercy. Like he's got like it's very interesting, Like 548 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.400 I don't know, like, yeah, this guy's fascinating just to 549 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.480 look out and heard of him, but he's fascinating to 550 00:28:01.480 --> 00:28:03.119 look at it. If you've ever heard of him and 551 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:04.920 you didn't grow up watching wrestling in this part of 552 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:09.720 the country, it's probably because when the footage did surface 553 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.599 of Hulk Hogan having the arm wrestling contest with Andre 554 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.519 the Giant in Gulf coast and attacking him with the 555 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.799 table afterwards and really shooting the first angle ever between 556 00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:22.279 these two. There's a guy with a top hat down 557 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.880 on the floor at ringside barking orders to Terry the 558 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:28.640 up Boulder. That's wow, Billy Spears. And you hear a 559 00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.759 TV commentator Tarvelie Platt make reference to Billy Spears and 560 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.799 just listening to studcasts, this guy was all over the place. 561 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.319 I mean, Billy Spears was like the heart of the 562 00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.960 television like he'd come over to the announced position, the 563 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.079 Gordon Solely position and just run his mouth love it. 564 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.000 He was like a Jim Cornette. He was a MoMA's boy. 565 00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:45.839 He always used to talk about his mama and how 566 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.359 his mama was unhappy and how he you know, he 567 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.799 longed for his mama. So they played that up big 568 00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:53.279 time too. So he had a lot of Cornette in him. 569 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.240 It sounds like, wouldn't surprise me if Cornett even took 570 00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.119 a little bit from some of the things that he 571 00:28:57.119 --> 00:29:00.160 would say and riff about. So Billy Spears is is 572 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:03.480 the guy that would manage Terry the Hulk Boulder and 573 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.200 bring him into the foreground. Now it's interesting, and we'll 574 00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.519 get to this as we go to hear Ron Fuller talent, 575 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.960 even though to me there's a noticeable dearth of actual 576 00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:18.599 published information that shows Terry Bolea being called Sterling Golden 577 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.640 in Gulf Coast as opposed to Yeah before he goes 578 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:24.240 to Georgia later that year. According to Ron Fuller, the 579 00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:27.599 big thing was that Billy Spears on television always wanted 580 00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:32.000 to call Terry Sterling Golden, and he got sick of 581 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.119 that name, but Billy Spears refused to stop calling him that, 582 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.559 and he'd say, no, I'm Terry the Hulk Boulder, I'm 583 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.599 Terry the Hupe Boulder, and that actually led, according to 584 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:42.960 Ron Fuller's recollection, that actually led to Terry's face turn 585 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.680 because he got so fed up with his heel manager 586 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.119 Billy Spears not using the proper name for him, that 587 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.079 he freaked out on him and basically turned on him. 588 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.319 So that's going to be a really curious thing to me, 589 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.799 because whenever other people talk about it, including Hulk himself, 590 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.839 he never seems to talk about being Sterling Golden, and 591 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:02.160 certainly the hype limited footage that exists from Terry in 592 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.680 this part of the country, he's not called Stirling Golden 593 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.559 at all. He's always called Terry the Holpe Boulder. Did 594 00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:11.279 you find the match between Dick Slater and Billy Spears 595 00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:14.680 the match? No, I didn't know. I just found working 596 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.920 at them on YouTube. Yep, okay, good to check that one. 597 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:18.759 Check that one out. I was looking for promos. I'm 598 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:20.720 gonna get an idea of his voice. Oh sure, sure, 599 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.920 for sure. That was very limited. This is what I 600 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.319 could find And this isn't this seems to be If 601 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:27.319 I was reading the context right, it seems like Billy 602 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.079 Spears had actually turned face here, so he's not doing 603 00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.279 the whole cowardly heel stick. But this is at least 604 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:34.000 what he sounded like. 605 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.759 Welcome to personality, bay Wow, I said, But the Vistern 606 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.119 Television Wrestling my guest today Billy Spears and the members 607 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:43.960 of his family of the Salviason Tag being champions, the 608 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.559 Alabama State Heavyweights champions, and once we're going to be 609 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:50.680 This thing is in partially an interative. It took place, 610 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.000 It's started here on television last weeks. Mister Spears, Tommy 611 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.079 Gilbert was injured at the hands of the rat Are 612 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:01.720 so trying to protect you through Frank rib Yeah, we're 613 00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.279 trying to protect made you see, y'all saw what happened 614 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:05.480 last week there on TV. 615 00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:08.160 You know why Tommy Gilwer did what he did. My 616 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.000 mother is really grateful for Tommy to do what he did. Man, 617 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:12.640 he went out there and saved me. 618 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.480 If I'm possible, it's mendous injury and then return. 619 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.200 And he was the one that got injured. 620 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.559 See, he's grateful. And then they watched the footage and 621 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.359 he's not really calling anybody names or anything. So he 622 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.319 was kind of died enough in the wold that he 623 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:29.960 eventually apparently turned babyface. But that's kind of what he 624 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.440 sounded like. And that was the voice track to the 625 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.000 whole Billy Spears part of the show. And what they 626 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:37.480 would do, and this is just so great. You know, 627 00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.599 you'd have the studio show that would broadcast out live 628 00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:42.319 on a Saturday, I think it was in the afternoon 629 00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.079 or late afternoon, and they'd push tonight's show wherever it 630 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.680 was right and the different markets might get a different 631 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.799 style television show based on what town they were in 632 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:51.640 that night, and you would go to the matches as 633 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:53.759 soon as the TV was over, and so they're pushing 634 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:55.319 and what they would do is they'd film the matches 635 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.680 with like one hardcam and then the next week every 636 00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.720 territory did this for the most part. Then the next 637 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.200 week you go over and visit with Charlie Platt at 638 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.440 the desk and they sit there and they watch the 639 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.000 footage of what happened last week at the arena. So 640 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.240 you felt like you missed out on something, but you 641 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:12.359 only got clips of it. You never saw the whole 642 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.319 thing almost never. And next time, if you want to 643 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:18.799 feel that in person excitement as opposed to the studio excitement, 644 00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.480 you better buy a ticket. That was kind of I 645 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:23.880 think the feeling that would wash over viewers of wrestling 646 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:26.480 such as it was constituted at the time, particularly this territory. 647 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.599 So yeah, they would sit at the desk and review 648 00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.599 the footage, and so you can imagine how agonizing it 649 00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.920 is boss to hear Ron Fuller describe the amount of 650 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.440 times and Terry Boulder and Billy Spears went to the 651 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.119 desk to rewatch what happened last time we were in 652 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:45.200 the arena with Hulk in the ring, wrestling guys like 653 00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.839 Ox Baker, Austin Eidel, Harley Race, Andre the Giant, and 654 00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:53.079 we don't get to see it. Where's the footage? Where's 655 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.559 the footage? Ron, the homie Matt put it. Well, oh 656 00:32:57.640 --> 00:32:58.480 that's all really nice. 657 00:32:58.599 --> 00:32:58.799 Ron. 658 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:00.599 Where's the footage? 659 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:01.319 Yes? 660 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:07.559 Why can't I see it? You don't deserve where's the footage? 661 00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:12.880 You don't deserve it, except that there's no fan in 662 00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.799 the audience that brought a camera like like happened in Charlotte, 663 00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:18.720 that miraculous discovery of all that seventy stuff. Oh my god, 664 00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:23.480 that the Middletlantic documentary makers found. Come on, folks, this 665 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:30.519 is hulk Hogan. No, where's the footage? Nope? None, there 666 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.400 was why boss? 667 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:33.319 It was on TV. 668 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.680 It wasn't. No, it wasn't it was live. It was live. 669 00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:41.759 No one taped anything. That's the problem. That's true. No 670 00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.079 one did. I mean, yeah, I don't know. If I'm 671 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.400 going to take a guess of which state got VCR's last, 672 00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:51.240 as far as like most households, it's probably Alabama, Mississippi, Okay, 673 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.920 that that part of the country. Yeah, I would imagine 674 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:57.559 they were the last to be clued in on VCRs. 675 00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.640 I mean, a lot of the Georgia survives not only 676 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.200 because a TBS product, and TBS was actually you know, 677 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.519 a substantial satellite based cable innovating operation. But also because 678 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.599 everyone got TBS, it beamed out to anyone who had cable, 679 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.679 And yes, they're gonna be crs. But when you're talking 680 00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:15.280 three cities in Alabama saw this television show. I mean, 681 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.599 it would be one thing if there was none. But 682 00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:20.239 we have the Hogan Andre fight, we have a Hogan 683 00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:25.000 squash match. Where's the footage? Where did that come from? 684 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.559 And why isn't there more from wherever that came from? 685 00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:30.800 Why would that be the only thing that survived? It's 686 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:35.000 it's it's all phony. I mean, do we have to 687 00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.079 go and knock on the door of whatever TV studio 688 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.280 they used to shoot this in in Dothan or Web, Alabama? 689 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.480 Do we have to go visit them and say, show 690 00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.000 me your archives and show me where to put a 691 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.079 number on a blank check? 692 00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:48.000 What? 693 00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.840 What do you wrestling? Another Jim Crock moment. I know, 694 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.639 I don't think we ever did the wrestling in here. 695 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:57.719 I think you might have a wrong station that's up 696 00:34:57.800 --> 00:34:59.360 in New York, isn't it. It's like when we went 697 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.039 into brookefield House or Allow. This used to be a 698 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.760 really historic wrestling building and the women running a fucking 699 00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.719 stamp collection show, damn. Whatever it was. It was like, 700 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:13.320 you know, this is okay, okay, you know that we're 701 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:19.519 we're selling something else. It was like some weird sticker thing. 702 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:25.920 A lot a lot of women, a lot of old 703 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.280 women with turtlenecks enter their sweaters. Okay, oh yes shirts, 704 00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:32.559 I should say, yes very much. And they're like, okay, 705 00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:34.840 so you think I give a fuck that they used 706 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.400 to have pro wrestling here in the seventies. Well maybe 707 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.199 they did, but they don't anymore. A reality check that was, man, 708 00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.559 thank god for that. We're going to pay admission and 709 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.639 walk around. We're not going to buy know my god, No, 710 00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.519 We're going to pay a mission and just walk around 711 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.480 the exactly see if we can find ship that like 712 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:57.760 you know that that that that maybe the entryway where 713 00:35:57.760 --> 00:35:59.400 the wrestlers came. It was a swinging to miss like 714 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.480 calhoon right there. Yes, we had to pay for it, 715 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:06.320 so that's Billy Spears. He had tremendous We paid for it. 716 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.039 So you know, let's get a taste. Go go to 717 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.199 your Alabama folder boss and actually jump forward if you 718 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:18.559 could to nineteen seventy nine. April twelfth is the clipping. 719 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.519 This is also from the News Herald in Panama City, Florida. 720 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.199 And thank god for the News Harold. As far as 721 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:25.840 like the heart of the cities that they were in, 722 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:28.719 there is not a lot of newspaper. Fuck is that? 723 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:34.119 Oh my god? Looks he kind of looks like Jimmy 724 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.320 Valley in a little bit, he does. I mean, he 725 00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.519 kind of looks like Hogan in a way. He does 726 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.239 big top hat, you know. Yeah, he looks like he 727 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.920 could have been Hogan's manager in Rocky three. This is April. 728 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:47.840 This is like three weeks after he arrives. And this 729 00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.480 is how they're they're framing Billy Spears new Monster to 730 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:54.960 the readers of the of the News Herald in Panama City, Florida. 731 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:02.880 Hulk teams with Gladiator, two rough husky wrestlers. We'll try 732 00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.000 to batter up battle batter a pair of chicken thighs 733 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:11.320 local favors into submission in my main event. Now what 734 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.920 chicken thighs our local favorites down there? I can confirm. 735 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.480 There we go, There we go. All right. I'm sure 736 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:19.360 they love him battered as well in a submission in 737 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.519 the main event of tonight's professional wrestling card. At Bowl 738 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:27.000 Air Wrestling Arena. The Hulk, who weighs three hundred and 739 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:32.559 sevens like Andre Wayne eight seventy I know Jesus Christ 740 00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:36.920 three hundred and seventy five pounds and he's seven feet tall. 741 00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:42.679 No wonder he fucking developed the uh oh, my god condition, 742 00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.760 the mania that he has. We'll team up with the 743 00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.400 Masked Gladiator and a tag team scrap against Ron Fuller 744 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.880 and roy Lee Welch. Fuller has proved he can wrestle 745 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:56.960 either clean or rough, and we'll get a chance to 746 00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.239 prove it tonight. Another main event the equal equally rough 747 00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:09.679 David doctor Schultz. Yeah, doctor D, Doctor Schultz, Doctor D 748 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.159 doctor Shult. Doctor Schultz sounds like uh, I mean that 749 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.800 sounds like my pediatrician somewhere it does. Yeah. We'll go 750 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.960 against Norvell Austin, who has become a fan favorite with 751 00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:26.159 local with Loca fans. Billy Spears will manage the Gladiator 752 00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:28.559 and the Hulk in their battle and will also be 753 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:32.079 on well. Owls be on hand to give advice to Schultz. 754 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.239 There will be three other matches on the card starting 755 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.960 at eight pm, so there and then mad As results 756 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.519 from April eighteens right next to it, Yes, Gladiator Hawk win. 757 00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:44.880 The Hawk and the Gladiator won their tag team match. 758 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.760 The Hawk, by the way, called the Hawk Hawk, not 759 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:53.599 the Hawk? The Hawk? Who who wrestled the Gladiator? The Hawk? 760 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.280 The Hawk? Who the fuck is the Hawk? 761 00:38:57.960 --> 00:38:58.000 What? 762 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:03.880 All right? Find the Hawk? Love it man? The Hawk? 763 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:09.360 About the animal exactly? What about the draws? Well, I 764 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.800 guess they did draw. The Hawk and the Gladiator won 765 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.519 their tag team wrestling battle with Roy Lee Welch and 766 00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.480 Ron Fuller at the Bowl There Wrestling Arena, despite the 767 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.239 Hawk being battered all over the place. Brother, right, why 768 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:30.719 don't you snelders? Well, I'm listening to not so. I 769 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:32.440 said I'd come out there and wrestle. I'm sound get 770 00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.760 beer battered. It's like it is the Alabama version of 771 00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:42.320 Tartan feathered get battered. Many fans claimed that Billy Spears, 772 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:50.639 manager of the Hawk and Gladiator, gave illegal aid. So, yeah, 773 00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:56.840 did so? Yeah, Hulk was dealing Billy Spears was the 774 00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:58.159 legal aid? 775 00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:58.400 Yeah? 776 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:03.800 Okay, I'm the right. Norville Austin beat David Doctor d 777 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.920 Schultz and a chicken wire match. The ring was enclosed 778 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.559 with wire so neither wrestler could get out. The wrestling 779 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:14.400 Pro Austin and others will be featured in a five 780 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.400 match card next Thursday night at Bowl Air Wrestling Arena. 781 00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.360 I mean excitement all around. I have to say, unbelievable. 782 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:23.239 Let's get a further taste if you can jump back 783 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.800 to April fifth of seventy nine. Here's another mention of 784 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.800 Hulk even before that one. But I jumped ahead to 785 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:32.239 that one because there was just a photo of Billy Spears. 786 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:35.119 We couldn't pass up. Oh yeah, no question. But Lucas 787 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.800 and Shoals to wrestle. According to the News Herald, Lucas 788 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:44.360 Schultz to wrestle more Ken Ken Lucas, a long a 789 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:48.280 local favorite with wrestling fans, will challenge Doc David Doctor 790 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:55.360 D Schultz for the latter's Southeastern Championship Southeastern Championship Wrestlings South. 791 00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.360 The words are never organized in that fashion, but it 792 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:00.960 just goes to show how little they cared about the 793 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.079 wrestling stuff in these in these fucking newspapers. The Southeastern 794 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.239 Championship Wrestling Belt next Thursday night at Bowl Air Wrestling Arena. 795 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.199 Sheltz is known here as one of the most rugged 796 00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:16.000 grapplers to enter the squared circle. Lucas returning here last 797 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:21.000 week after a long absence, showed he has lost none 798 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:24.920 of his old skill. In a special challenge match, Roy 799 00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:29.239 Welch will face the Gladiator rough masked wrestler. They have 800 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:34.199 a feud going. A five thousand dollars bounty match has 801 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:38.480 been scheduled, pitting Rip Tyler not can confuse Rip Taylor 802 00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:43.199 and Eddie Sullivan and who are managed by Billy Spears, 803 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:56.000 against Ricky Fields and Terry lathamused with tost Mama Spears 804 00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:02.880 that Mama's sorrows. I guess the maternal influence in the 805 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.519 family has offered a five thousand dollars bounty to Sullivan 806 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:10.039 and Tyler if their opponents Field and Latham are seriously hurt. 807 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:13.400 Next Thursday night, pretty Boy Wayne Harris will wrestle Norvell 808 00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:18.800 Awayne Harris. Huh does it say Wayne Harris, Wayne Ferris? 809 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:26.360 Damn it? I'm sorry, good one. Oh look you think 810 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:29.159 of a honkey talk right now and picture of being 811 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:35.480 named Wayne Harris works at the fucking gas down the street. 812 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.599 That's what they call him. The call. Hey it's pretty 813 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:42.400 Boy Wayne Harris. Oh look he's working today, babes. 814 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:42.840 Look at that. 815 00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.679 Wayne Ferri's honey talk man. He still works at the 816 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:54.320 gas station. Hey ladies, Oh that's good. There's potential there. 817 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.000 You get me some car to fill up with gasoline. 818 00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:02.320 I don't care how big it is. It's coming over 819 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.400 with that fucking with that shit eating T Diddy smile 820 00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:10.760 that he has. I think you would call his fill 821 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.400 station the honk of honk Hong. You have to honk 822 00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:22.280 to get someone to come out the the the honk 823 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:26.519 of honk of leaded fuel, something like that, the petrol 824 00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:32.599 up honk honk of petrol. Look, I don't understand why 825 00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:36.480 it took us twelve years to envision what if Honky 826 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.280 tunk Man owned a gas station. Honk a honk a 827 00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:46.519 honky petrol. That's it right there, pretty boy, Wayne Ferris Wheel, 828 00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:58.760 Wayne Ferris Wheel, I'm here with the honky tunk Man, 829 00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:00.920 the legend. He's a Do I have this right, Siry? 830 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:06.079 Your real name is Wayne Ferris Wheel? Right? What a 831 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.400 podcast is this? You got that? Right? 832 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:09.559 Uh? 833 00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:18.039 Well, pretty boy, Wayne Ferris Wheel wrestle or wheel and 834 00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:24.199 and uh hull seventy five pounds. He lost one hundred 835 00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.119 pounds and wait a minute, gained it. He gained one 836 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.800 hundred pounds and six inches, Terry reads this article is 837 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.360 a nope. Get that editor phone. You gotta go up 838 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:35.599 to four hundred. Next week. 839 00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:37.559 Four hundred. 840 00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:41.880 We'll face Ben Alexander. Everyone an event anywhere in the country. 841 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:47.719 How we never got w W World Champion Ben Alexander? 842 00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:51.079 I'll never know? And where are you Ben? I need 843 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.360 to know wrestling Terry Boulder, Yes, I need to know. 844 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:56.840 Do you remember that no the Hulk or do you 845 00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.920 have brain about those early matches? 846 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:00.360 Oh? 847 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.719 I want to know more about Ben Alexander? All right, 848 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:09.360 Next up there, Lucas will wrestle This is four days 849 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:14.519 after the article you just read. Lucas will wrestle Ken. 850 00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:20.440 Lucas another fucking main event name. Lucas will wrestle Ken 851 00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:25.239 and George, the Lucas brothers. We'll make a movie in 852 00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.760 the ring. Popular wrestler in these parts for a long time. 853 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:32.119 Will challenge David doctor d Schultz for the Latters the 854 00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.679 same fucking thing. Southeastern Heavyweight Championship is a feature of 855 00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:42.840 tonight's professional card. Not a professional wrestling card, just a 856 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:44.119 professional card. 857 00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.360 So that. 858 00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:54.960 Bowl Air Wrestling Arena just can't fucking handle this. Lucas, 859 00:45:55.000 --> 00:46:06.320 the French Prince of oh god Schultz is naturally not 860 00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.800 anxious to lose the belt with all of the glamour 861 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.480 that goes with it, so tonight's scrap should be interesting. 862 00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.880 Roy Welsch will meet the gladiator rough masked man. Why 863 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:20.239 do they fucking why don't the kid? They say? Roy 864 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:22.679 Welsh will meet the gladiator a rough mass man? Why 865 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:26.880 is it? We'll meet the gladiator Comma rough masked man 866 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:30.800 in a special challenge match that has been demanded by 867 00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.920 both men. That eator was Dick steinborn long time? Well, 868 00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.480 what's what? What's the fucking what's what's the challenge? You 869 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:41.239 have to find out? Apparently they've they've demanded a challenge 870 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.800 match where we don't know what the challenge is. There 871 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.840 will be a five thousand dollars bounty tag team battle 872 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.760 in which Rip Tyler and Eddie Sullivan, managed by Billy Spears, 873 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:54.559 will tangle with Rick Rickey Fields and Terry Latham. Mama Spears, 874 00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:57.119 Billy's mother, has offered the five thousand dollars bounty to 875 00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.920 Tyler and Sullivan if Latham and Fields are seriously injured. 876 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.920 Ken Alexander, So wait is it Ben or is it Ken? 877 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.119 It's Ken? Absolutely? Oh no, it's Ben because an Lucas. 878 00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:12.519 It's Ben Alexander with Ben Alexander or Ken Alexander because 879 00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:16.480 we got both here, another brother. We'll do it. We'll 880 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.639 face the Hulk two hundred and seventy five pound, six 881 00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.280 foot six wrestler. Action will start at eight PM. So 882 00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.559 I guess there was just a typo. That's the same. 883 00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:28.760 That was the same article where they called him hawk, 884 00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:33.280 but but not to say but is he seven foot? Now, yeah, 885 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.559 that's true. That was hard. That's true. Yeah, I mean 886 00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.960 I mentioned Hulk Hogan in nineteen seventy nine was four 887 00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.440 hundred pounds of muscle. I mean, could you imagine how 888 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.599 like imagine the cheeks, imagine the cheeks on that motherfucker. 889 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.000 It's like a guy who created no mercy and just 890 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:52.239 dial everything up to ten, you know, like exactly exactly, 891 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.920 still doing moves all like just round, like you know, 892 00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:59.360 the skin of a fucking balloon. Next, we haven't had 893 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.159 here for Southeastern Wrestling, romoted by Dick Steinborn. What do 894 00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:04.199 you know? Dick Steinborn the promoter also in the main 895 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.280 event as the Gladiator uh managed by Billy Spears his 896 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:10.639 partner The Halt who's you're listed at sixty four and 897 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.920 three hundred pounds to take on. So he's so he's shrunk. Now, 898 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.119 he's shrunk, that's correct, and they're taking on with this 899 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:19.239 main event already. I mean, the guy's in the territory 900 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.119 a week or week and a half and he's main 901 00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:26.880 eventing here at the Montgomery Montgomery, Alabama Civic Center. Tickets 902 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.360 four dollars for ringside if you're wondering, Well, see he's 903 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:34.039 see he's he's six four in Montgomery and in Panama. 904 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.079 He's uh, he's six six. Gonna make quite a few 905 00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.119 stops at that all you can eat they talked about 906 00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.079 in brutuses, that's right. Uh, they're they're facing Ron Fuller 907 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.559 and roy Lee Welch. Ron Fuller of course, uh, the 908 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.719 Tennessee stud the owner of the territory and a big 909 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:48.599 star in his own right down there in Royley Welch 910 00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:53.559 his his cousin, who was a well known name kind 911 00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:55.639 of the generation before but was still hanging around, was 912 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:58.599 like a grizzled veteran in the area. So that's big 913 00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.559 that he's already in that position. You see the picture 914 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.880 of the mass man, that's actually Gladiator Dick steinborn under 915 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.480 the hood. They are not picturing the Hulk quite yet. Next, 916 00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:08.480 this is from the Selma Times Journal on April eighth, 917 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.239 seventy nine, just to match card at the Selma National 918 00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:15.039 Guard Armory, also promoted by Dick Steinborn. It's time it's 919 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.280 Ron Fuller vers David Schultz in the main event. And 920 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.000 further down the card we get a look at our Hulk. 921 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:23.719 He's taking on Ben Alexander, listed simply as the Hulk. Okay, 922 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.760 I can't stress this enough. He's called the Hulk from 923 00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.039 the very beginning. It doesn't say Terry Bolea, it doesn't 924 00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.880 see Sterling Golden, it doesn't say Terry Boulder, doesn't say anything, 925 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:35.960 but the Hulk. That's what he's called. There's no fucking 926 00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.280 way that he got that name after being in a 927 00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.039 television studio with Lou for Rigno the week he shows 928 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:44.039 up in the territory. According to all records we have, 929 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:46.800 he's already been called the Hulk and nothing more. Okay, 930 00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.559 case closed, No, not possible closed. We already looked at 931 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.039 that one. Here's a card from also promote to Dick 932 00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:57.039 Steinborn at the monkoin Re Civic Center. And where do 933 00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:59.480 you see let's see where do we see him here? 934 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.679 This is kind of hard for me to read. Oh yeah, 935 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.199 the Hulk verse Fuller. There it is again further down Yep, 936 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:08.639 the Hulk. Okay, how about uh the Hulk. This is 937 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:14.039 from April twenty third, nineteen seventy nine. This time it's 938 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:17.639 not Roy Lee Welch. Let's see where does he fact 939 00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.360 the Hulk? The Hulk? Ron Fuller pounds versus Ron Fuller 940 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.199 My goodness, next April twenty six to seventy nine, Boss 941 00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.159 give it to him. From the aforementioned Panama City News 942 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:35.000 Herald Fuller Schultz clash Tonight. Ron Fuller and Dave Schultz 943 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:39.719 will clash in a Southeastern Championship Wrestling match tonight. I 944 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:42.960 mean is that the name of the organization southeastre Championship Wrestling? 945 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:44.039 Is he? 946 00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.320 Is it for the belt or what do we know? Oh, 947 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:47.920 he is putting up the belt. Shelves is putting up 948 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.199 the belt, and Fuller says he intends to get it. 949 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.119 A quote bull rope unquote. Match is also scheduled, with 950 00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:59.000 Roy Lee Welch checking on the Gladiator. Welch will be 951 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:04.519 seconded by his father, Lester Welch. Roy and Lester Welch. 952 00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.920 Oh yeah, well well known in his wrestling days. Here 953 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.320 and Billy Spears will manage the gladiator. Both men will 954 00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:13.159 be tied together with a bull rope, and to win 955 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.320 the match, one of the wrestlers must either pin his 956 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.280 opponent for account of four or drag him all the 957 00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.840 way around the ring. I've never heard the four count 958 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:26.920 before ever in my life. I kind of need it, though. 959 00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.719 You imagine, like, how how fucking confusing could that be 960 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:36.760 for wrestling fans, Like, like, how can you not be conditioned? 961 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:41.039 I know to like cheer at three, but no, you 962 00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:45.960 need four. Imagine if when ae W started all right 963 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.360 twenty nineteen, Tony Kahn steps up at the press conference 964 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.320 and says, all right, we're excited. We're not a couple 965 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.079 of things that we think make aw different. We will 966 00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:56.119 have seven counts. 967 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:08.880 One, two, three, four, five, Six goes and tells me 968 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:14.400 people still won't kick out till six, even though two 969 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:15.559 did just fine forever. 970 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:22.199 Oh my god, seven count Look, if we ever get 971 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.760 the book anywhere, that's the first thing I'm implementing. Absolutely, 972 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.199 we are a seven count promotion. We're proud of either 973 00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.199 that or either that, Either that or I might go 974 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:32.800 old school and have it just be a single a 975 00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:35.320 single count. But yeah, one slap of the shoulder, one 976 00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:37.039 slap of the shoulder. You could do a lot. You 977 00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:38.920 could have a lot of fun with that, Actually, you could. 978 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.440 You could change the whole dynamic of the matches for sure. 979 00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:43.239 These guys wouldn't know fuck all how to do that, 980 00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:45.880 but they'd have to learn. You could also do count outs. 981 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:55.199 Forty counts. I would do a minute. The way you 982 00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:57.119 can get counted out in our promotion is if you 983 00:52:57.199 --> 00:52:59.840 get bludgeons so badly you can't move for a full 984 00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:10.840 in it. Yeah, Hogan would still insist on losing Olivia 985 00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.000 count now exactly, fucking right, fucking that's the only place 986 00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.480 he would sell. He's just laying out there outside the ring. 987 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.760 They'll ref kind of to you heard it. Where's any 988 00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:22.559 financial backers out there? They want to get this off there. 989 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:23.960 We're going to call it, that's what we're doing. We're 990 00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:29.519 gonna call it the Real Wrestling Association, the Not Fake 991 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:34.199 Wrestling Association, No, the Not Fake Wrestling League. There it is, 992 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:39.760 that's right, the n f n f w L no foul. 993 00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:47.320 You could call it the no Fake League. I won't 994 00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.880 get us in any trouble. All right, fine, we can't 995 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.199 call it the No the No Fake League. We're gonna 996 00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:58.320 call it the No Bullshit Association. Here's another fucking cease 997 00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:06.159 and desist. Well, we just call it major League Bullshit. 998 00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:10.519 So much for the No Bullshit. We just go and 999 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:14.639 call it major league bullshit. We went for two names 1000 00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.760 that say that this isn't bullshit, just well admitting it's bullshit. 1001 00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.800 But Bush, you have to come up with a third name. 1002 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.280 We're already frustrated. I can't remember did you finish this 1003 00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:25.239 wonderful article or not? 1004 00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:27.960 You didn't even know why? 1005 00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.639 Because this you're about to hit on something that is historic. 1006 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:35.719 Go ahead, Oh yes, The Samoans, a colorful tag team, 1007 00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:39.960 will meet Arman Hussein and Norvelle Austin in a tag 1008 00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:44.159 team match. Eddie Sullivan will wrestle Rickey Field and Ben 1009 00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:50.679 Alexander will wrestle Larry Mills The Hulk. The Hulk giant 1010 00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:55.440 grappler who will meet another big man, Andre the Giant 1011 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.559 here soon will give a demonstration of his strength and wrestling. 1012 00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.599 A Billy te action starts at eight pm. That's buried 1013 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.239 as the last paragraph of this thing. 1014 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:04.480 Yep. 1015 00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:08.760 That's insane. Okay, they're already promoting that Andre's coming. Terry 1016 00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.039 has been there for a month, a little over a month, 1017 00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:16.079 and it's already in the papers that Andre's coming for 1018 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.159 the Hulk. I mean that is just huge. How do 1019 00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:24.199 we get there? Throw Hulk of the wrestlant worldly in 1020 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:28.440 the throw Giant all the restlant world, not the houlk. 1021 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:37.280 Headed to Alabama? Roll come down for Alabama. A lot 1022 00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:41.039 of the thrown a hunk, don't prove them Iron the 1023 00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:42.000 only giant. 1024 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:49.599 How wasn't he can rob for? I called for you next? 1025 00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:55.519 And then the Hunk? He's fired up about this program. 1026 00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:58.199 He really wants us to work. He really loves his 1027 00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:00.679 boy Louis to let his fucking month you all homeboy? 1028 00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:03.960 How was How was Andre not considered for the loof 1029 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:08.119 for Rigno role? Well? I couldn't move? Well, I guess 1030 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.360 he could. He could he move back? Then it's before Princess. 1031 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.639 He can move enough. Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah, 1032 00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:15.519 he could have made it and make it fake it. Yeah, 1033 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.199 well you know because he's not he's not muscular though, right, 1034 00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.679 the Holt's gonna be muscular. Yeah, you need the definition 1035 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:25.960 more than anything. Yeah, great point. So yeah, as established, 1036 00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:29.840 Rob Fuller's up there booking in Memphis and uh, and 1037 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:36.119 a special arrangement was made, according to Ron Fuller, between Rob, 1038 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.840 his brother and his father, Herb Welch, and Jerry Jarrett, 1039 00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:42.800 that if Rob's gonna go over there in book Memphis, 1040 00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:46.320 Rob had the right to decide each wrestler's payoff every night. 1041 00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:49.920 He wanted control as a booker over what the guy's 1042 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:51.719 got paid, because if you don't have control, you're not 1043 00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:53.599 the boss. If you don't have control a verb much 1044 00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:56.039 people get paid, you're not the boss, right yep. And 1045 00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:58.480 so according to Ron Fuller, what they agree on is 1046 00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.360 that every night in the Memphis territory of Rob is 1047 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.000 going to book, it's going to be twenty eight percent 1048 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:03.599 of the gross house is going to get paid out 1049 00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.039 to the wrestlers. Twenty eight percent was the magic number. 1050 00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.239 Ron Fuller said. Twenty eight percent is what he always 1051 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:11.480 used in his territories to figure payoffs, and he said 1052 00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:14.599 that actually was significantly more than most territories paid their wrestlers. 1053 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.079 The crowds are bad in Memphis. When Rob arrived in 1054 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.320 January seventy nine, Ron said, and they grew quite a bit. 1055 00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.119 So by the time you get to May, according to 1056 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.519 Ron Fuller, that twenty eight percent is starting to make 1057 00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.800 Jerry Jarrett feel like he's getting screwed. You know how 1058 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.840 that goes? Oh boy, when the money starts rolling in, 1059 00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:35.039 all of a sudden, the people who get paid the 1060 00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.079 most feel underpaid. You know how that goes. And so 1061 00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.960 all of a sudden, according to Ron, Jerry comes to 1062 00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.039 Rob and says, actually, coming, we're going to lower the 1063 00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.559 percentage from twenty eight percent to twenty two percent to 1064 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:48.000 the talent. Now, if they're bringing in that much more 1065 00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:51.320 at the gate, you know, the wrestlers might not notice 1066 00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:55.559 that big of a difference in their check. Yeah, but 1067 00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:57.320 it actually was quite a bit because he goes through 1068 00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.920 the math a little while for a little bit, and 1069 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:04.320 you know, it's a couple hundred dollars less every week 1070 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.039 take home at a time when that accounted for a 1071 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:11.920 lot inflation adjusted. So it actually quickly sours the Fuller 1072 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.960 Jarrett alliance in Memphis. And this will be important because 1073 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:17.440 where is Terry Bullya and Ed Bulder. 1074 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:17.519 Going to go. 1075 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:20.559 They're gonna go to Memphis as well. And suddenly it's 1076 00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:23.679 not a cooperative situation, but a competitive situation because things 1077 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.719 are already starting to sour up there visa VI the Fullers, 1078 00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:30.480 and according to Ron, his brother Rob told Jerry Jarrett, 1079 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.440 if you're gonna do this and cut the percentage the boys, 1080 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:35.440 I have no choice. I'm leaving as booker. So that 1081 00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:39.480 is going. Wow, Really, that is going to That's a 1082 00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:42.960 seed that's going to sprout as we go. But here's 1083 00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:49.320 Ron remembering. At the wtv Y Studios Dothan, Alabama, run 1084 00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:53.239 March eleventh or so of nineteen seventy nine, the Hulk 1085 00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.159 appears on television for the first time. 1086 00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:02.360 Wow, he was definitely on that TV Dave, and it 1087 00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.000 was the first time either Louis, who was the new 1088 00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.039 booker down there, or I, either one of us saw it. 1089 00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:11.280 And you know, we needed to meet him and we 1090 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:14.559 needed to talk to him about our plans for him, 1091 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.679 but most of all, we needed to see how capable 1092 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:21.960 he was in the ring. We didn't know anything about him, 1093 00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:24.800 not even what he looked like. And while you know, 1094 00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:27.119 he was pretty impressive when you first get a look 1095 00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.320 at him, and these first TV matches that he was 1096 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:33.159 going to be in down there were critical man in 1097 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.440 getting him over, especially since he had very little experience. 1098 00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:41.599 And as always with everything, just about the first impression 1099 00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:45.760 is so important, and especially with wrestling fans, it's was critical. 1100 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:48.760 This TV show got a lot of surprise. And the 1101 00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:51.719 next one was this huge wressler that no one had 1102 00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:55.119 ever seen before, six feet nine inches tall and three 1103 00:59:55.239 --> 01:00:01.079 hundred pounds. And when he came addressing there was a 1104 01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:04.840 little you know, people in the then the features in 1105 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.679 the studio were, you know, they're always talking a little bit. 1106 01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:12.159 As soon as he came out, it went to silence 1107 01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.199 in the studio, it was like. And then when he 1108 01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:17.960 got in the ring, fans didn't know whether he was 1109 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.199 a heel or a baby face. They had never seen 1110 01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.920 him before. And uh and he was introduced as Terry 1111 01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:27.440 the Hug Boulder and in less than about two minutes, 1112 01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:32.599 Uh it took you for him throwing this little opponent around, 1113 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.599 looked like he was resting a baby, you know, throwing 1114 01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:37.480 him all over the ring. And then he got him 1115 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.119 in the bare hug and he submitted, and uh so 1116 01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:44.000 it was still silence in the studio when he got 1117 01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:47.239 out of the ring, you know, and then they started 1118 01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:51.639 carrying his opponent out. You know, the studio had just 1119 01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:57.320 sat there. They were mouths open, like, wow, who is this? 1120 01:00:57.679 --> 01:00:59.079 What is this all about? 1121 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:04.360 Didn't he start his Southeastern career as a heel? Was 1122 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:05.719 there any indication of that? 1123 01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.119 Oh? Well, I wasn't. In that first match, obviously he didn't. 1124 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.239 You know, he didn't really heal. He just basically bumped 1125 01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.559 the guy around a little bit and then put him 1126 01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:17.599 in the barre huge and it was over with us 1127 01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.840 all he had to do. Yeah, so yeah, but yes, 1128 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:22.480 he was a heel when he came. 1129 01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.480 Can you imagine being in that studio, no idea, what's coming? 1130 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.880 Not He walks out as the Halt and he's like 1131 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.119 the biggest person anyone in that town has ever seen, 1132 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:35.800 including in a wrestling ring besides onr that you of course, 1133 01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.480 and he and I love what he describes that people 1134 01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:43.719 just don't know what to say. There's like a pregnant silence, 1135 01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:47.280 like look at this fucking guy, you know, and it's 1136 01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:49.440 not like we're gonna say anything. You got to remember 1137 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.519 how intimate and small these studio wrestling settings are, like 1138 01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:55.079 every little peep you make, the wrestler can hear, you know, 1139 01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:58.679 and you're you're kind of sitting there kind of you know, 1140 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:00.480 with your hands folded a little bit. It kind of 1141 01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:04.880 studio yep. So it's like, uh, it's it's pretty. I mean, 1142 01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.599 just imagine Boss as he describes that. What are you picturing? 1143 01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:13.119 I mean, I mean, I you know, I think of 1144 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.440 a I think of a small I mean, I you know, 1145 01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:20.119 you say studio wrestling. I always think of I always 1146 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:24.559 think of of the old w CW. You know, the 1147 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:29.639 the World Championship Wrestling yep. You know layout, So you have, 1148 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.840 you know that kind of a small group in there, 1149 01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.719 and you know, in a weird way, it's like there's 1150 01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.719 I can picture Hogan coming out with you know, whenever 1151 01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.960 you whenever you have a studio something like that, there 1152 01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:49.320 is always a lack of spectacle because they you know, 1153 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:52.320 you come out as if you're coming out in front 1154 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.239 of thousands of people, but you're not. You're coming out 1155 01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:59.320 in front of like hundreds of people. And so even 1156 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.119 though you've got this this whole grand thing, you got 1157 01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:03.599 a costume and everything, it just always feels a little 1158 01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:05.519 bit out of place. And I can picture Hogan being 1159 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.320 in that situation. Well he doesn't know what, you know, 1160 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.960 like just of course, I mean we saw how reticent 1161 01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:14.639 and strange he looked in those brief training clips from 1162 01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:18.159 Florida in seventy seven, just kind of like lumbering around 1163 01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.639 and like, you know, kind of looking unsure of himself. 1164 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.599 And now while he's jacked like a motherfucker by now, 1165 01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:27.039 he's still like run Fullert's scrib he doesn't know what 1166 01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:29.280 to do. He's like, he's just going out there and 1167 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:31.000 he's got three moves he's got to do. He's gonna 1168 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.360 squash these little guys because it's right off to the 1169 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:36.519 racist like they're going with this guy right away, and 1170 01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.000 so he is going to have to learn to swim 1171 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.880 after being thrown into the pool. So we mentioned the 1172 01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.519 Ben Alexander match on March twenty second, nineteen seventy nine, 1173 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.760 is generally regarded as Terry Boley his first match in 1174 01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:49.360 the territory. He worked the Wrestling Pro in Panama City 1175 01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:53.559 and some others, and after after a while, it becomes 1176 01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:56.000 very clear that they're going to really accelerate the push 1177 01:03:56.199 --> 01:03:59.840 for this guy after he has that sort of that strange, 1178 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:03.599 subdued reaction in his first appearance in the television studio 1179 01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.079 and here Ron Fuller on a YouTube series he does 1180 01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.519 called short Ride talks about Louis Tillette coming to him 1181 01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.679 and saying, this guy has potential. You need to come 1182 01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:14.480 see him. This is kind of jumping back a little 1183 01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.360 bit in the timeline, but he tells it in a 1184 01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:17.360 little more richer detail. 1185 01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.239 Louis Tillett called me up. 1186 01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:23.840 He had had a hulk in the territory for about 1187 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:27.440 four or five weeks and and he says, and he 1188 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:31.320 had his finch ex and he says, Romna, this guy's 1189 01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:35.719 got tremendous potential. You know he needs he needs a 1190 01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:39.000 big guy to wrestle with. He needs a We don't 1191 01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:42.000 have anybody your size. And and uh, and I think 1192 01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.880 he's ready. You need to come and take a look 1193 01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:47.639 at him. And and I want you to work with him. 1194 01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:52.280 So I go to Dothan, Alabama, first time I ever 1195 01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:57.800 see the hulk Terry Terry Terry Boulder is what his 1196 01:04:57.960 --> 01:04:59.920 name was, Terry the hog Bolder. 1197 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.760 You know, that's what we called him anyway. And uh so, uh, 1198 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:06.199 I went to the ring, got to the ring first. 1199 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:10.800 He's obviously and uh and I see him come out 1200 01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:13.960 of the dressing room and he doesn't look anything like 1201 01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:14.719 the hull Cooke. 1202 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:18.159 And people remember or people know. Most people know. 1203 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:19.079 Uh. 1204 01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:22.559 He had black hair on his body. His upper body 1205 01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:25.719 was the all black hair. His hair was black. He 1206 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.280 didn't have the blonde hair. He had shaved his chest 1207 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:32.119 down into the shape of a diamond, down to where 1208 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:38.480 his trunks were. He was the most hard looking guy ever. 1209 01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:42.840 But once he got to the ring, and he got 1210 01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:45.719 in the ring, and I stood facing him and next 1211 01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.119 to him and really got to look at him. I 1212 01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:51.599 could see what Louis to Let saw in him and uh, 1213 01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:55.599 and I could see that he had tremendous potential. Obviously 1214 01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.239 he wasn't a very good wrestler. 1215 01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:57.719 Uh. 1216 01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:00.360 We had a great match, but I had to lead 1217 01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:04.119 him and did the best I could. He was in 1218 01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:09.719 the process of learning. But it was unbelievable love for 1219 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.239 us to Louis to find him and to bring him 1220 01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:17.159 there and to develop him into being a star, and 1221 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:19.519 where his career went from there. 1222 01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:20.039 It was just. 1223 01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.719 Out of sight, unbelievable. But we started him out. 1224 01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.199 Yeah, let's not forget that Ron Fuller himself is like six'. 1225 01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:31.719 Nine he's a tall. Motherfucker if you ever see him 1226 01:06:31.719 --> 01:06:33.559 in the, Ring, WOW i didn't know. That, ye he 1227 01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:35.840 towers over. Everybody he, wrestles and he was like a, 1228 01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:38.400 long almost a career long babyface in terms of like 1229 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.559 the territories where he sunk in the. Most he had heel, 1230 01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:43.960 runs of, course but he had to figure out a 1231 01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.159 way to be a babyface as a, big tall. Motherfucker 1232 01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:50.480 AND i think that that's kind of related to looking 1233 01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:53.320 At Terry bullay and seeing this guy not as some 1234 01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:56.320 guy with tremendous limitations because he's so much bigger than everybody. 1235 01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.480 Else how's everybody else going to work with? Him but 1236 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:00.239 seeing a guy, like of course you can go with 1237 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.159 the guy this, Tall i'm that tall and remain invented 1238 01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:06.239 In florida and elsewhere for. Years this is the opposite 1239 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:08.840 of the problem they had In, florida where you, know 1240 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.679 the promoters and the owners are kind of short of. 1241 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:14.320 Stature Mike graham in, particular what Did Brian blair, Say 1242 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:18.840 terry call them the main event? Midget, yes, right they're 1243 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:20.760 being as big As terry is a problem that you 1244 01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:23.880 have to. Overcome but here In Gulf, coast you're you're 1245 01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.119 working for a guy who ride tons of money in 1246 01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.199 the business being. Massive you know what what what what 1247 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:33.400 really it comes down to Is it always depends on 1248 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:38.039 who runs the territories because obviously the one who runs 1249 01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:40.039 the territory is going to want people who look like. 1250 01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:42.679 Them that's. Right they're gonna be able to see who resemble, 1251 01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:44.960 them you. Know and it's, like, well wait a, MINUTE 1252 01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:47.599 i can draw IF i step foot in this ring right, 1253 01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:49.559 NOW i can, Draw but how AM i going to 1254 01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:53.920 draw with this fucking clown who's like a? Tree you're absolutely, 1255 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:58.559 right it's what it. Is is it's another it's another prime. 1256 01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.639 Example AND i, mean, honestly we're seeing it even with 1257 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.599 the stuff with when we do the live, calls the 1258 01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:10.719 narrow the the the narrowed viewpoint of the people in. 1259 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:15.440 Charge they can't see past themselves really Because TRIPLE H 1260 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:18.079 Shawn michael's doing the same thing. ABSOLUTELY i, Mean Johnny 1261 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:22.960 gargano And Tomasso champa basically costume themselves to resemble them 1262 01:08:23.039 --> 01:08:26.279 in so many. Ways it gets that. Gratuitous and maybe 1263 01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:27.640 you don't have to look like, them but you better 1264 01:08:27.720 --> 01:08:30.800 do the, spinebuster you better kip up and you're doing 1265 01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:32.880 and they're doing the same. Story but but my point 1266 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.039 is that they're doing the same stories though stories, too 1267 01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:38.720 like they're Doing diesel the Diesel Shawn michael's, dynamic you, 1268 01:08:38.760 --> 01:08:42.680 know and and it's like you really can't get past 1269 01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:45.600 LIKE i don't know if IT'S i don't know if 1270 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:48.039 it's if it's it's a narrow, mindedness or if it's 1271 01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:53.600 a choice or. What but it's like it is a 1272 01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:57.439 very it's a it's a problem honestly in the business 1273 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:03.239 that that you have so many people who can't and 1274 01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:05.199 in a weird, Way vince Sick man no, different always 1275 01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:08.600 looking for New Hulk cogan, totally you, Know and here's 1276 01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.439 the same type of. Thing and this is why it's 1277 01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.000 so money what you're. Saying hulk brings with him the 1278 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.319 experience of what got him over and all of these 1279 01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:19.479 other territories despite having ritle to know experience To vince's 1280 01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:22.680 doorstep and gets so much power When Vince junior takes 1281 01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.319 over and they're essentially co CEOs OF wwf in a 1282 01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:27.079 lot of, ways every decision has been run By. Hulk 1283 01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:29.560 they'll live together In connecticut at the office every. Day 1284 01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:32.000 you better Believe hulk is putting on the table some 1285 01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:33.479 of the things that work for him when he came 1286 01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:35.319 up in the. Business of, course and you take a 1287 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:37.119 closer look and all this stuff That vince gets all 1288 01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:38.880 his credit for being a. Genius for, you, like, actually No, 1289 01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:42.479 Hogan Terry, boulder whatever did a version of. That if 1290 01:09:42.479 --> 01:09:45.680 you closely examine the territories he worked in, beforehand be At, 1291 01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:48.399 memphis be At, georgia be it At alabama Or japan 1292 01:09:49.760 --> 01:09:53.520 or Even, Montreal a's will talk about. Unbelievable he had 1293 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:55.359 all these ideas and he had all these opponents to 1294 01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:58.920 work with and, everything AND i don't, know it's just 1295 01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:04.600 extremely fascinating that his limitations that That terry was narrow 1296 01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:06.760 minded to but because it was so new to so 1297 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.720 many people when he became a national, star it was 1298 01:10:08.760 --> 01:10:11.640 all new, angles but they really weren't, new and the 1299 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.119 presentation really wasn't new in terms of how many wrestlers 1300 01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:16.680 he borrowed from and the look and. Feel and, yeah 1301 01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:18.439 you know, again not being able to see past your 1302 01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:22.319 own success is a huge problem for wrestling. Bookers SO 1303 01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:25.239 i don't know if you Heard Ron fuller describe the 1304 01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:28.000 black hair, there but someone recently hit us On twitter 1305 01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:31.359 with this picture and it was so deeply. Alarming this 1306 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:33.279 is him laying on a bed In japan with The Stan. 1307 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:36.720 Hansen don't know IF i want to see, this this 1308 01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.680 is this is going to Be this is gonna be 1309 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.000 like like some some frank silver, shit isn't. 1310 01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:44.119 It let me? 1311 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:47.239 See? Oh what is? That what it looks Like Sean 1312 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:49.640 connery and he really does with the jet black. Hair 1313 01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:51.359 is that his natural hair in? COLOR i don't think. 1314 01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.680 SO i MEAN i. Must he's got blondish hair and 1315 01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.079 all the although all the pictures are black and white 1316 01:10:57.079 --> 01:10:58.680 from when he was In little, league in high school 1317 01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:00.479 and when he was In. Ruckus but he may very 1318 01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.960 well have been dying it by the. Time but he 1319 01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:05.720 could also have. BEEN i, mean you know so, many 1320 01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:08.279 so many people with blonde hair end up their hair 1321 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:09.920 ends up getting. DARK i, MEAN i don't Think i've 1322 01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:13.039 ever seen like jet black like. That, right there's a 1323 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:17.520 blonde but it's mostly. Black, yes but it makes. SENSE i, 1324 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:19.880 mean his chest hair is. Black when we see the you, 1325 01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:22.760 know the pictures of him when he had the mushroom 1326 01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:25.319 cloud of chest hair shaved onto his his his his 1327 01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.039 chest and stomach that Run fuller was talking about it 1328 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.640 is jet. Black he's An italian. GUY i, mean look at. 1329 01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.680 Him look at how it's so weird to See Hulk 1330 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:36.079 cogan with jet black hair like. THAT i, mean he 1331 01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:43.239 looks like a porn. Star He and also what's amazing 1332 01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:46.560 IS i guess who's not? TAN i, KNOW i know 1333 01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:50.000 he's got pretty much uh white skin, there like, yep, 1334 01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:55.640 wow look how fucking puffy he. Is it's a. Riot 1335 01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:58.359 how fucking puffy he? Was oh, YEAH i, mean, well 1336 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:02.079 when you roid like that without any counterbalancing cutting drugs 1337 01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:04.560 you know that allow you to do to maintain lean muscle, 1338 01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:06.439 mass you're just gonna bloat with the water weight like. 1339 01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:11.880 Crazy but he's, experimenting AND i guess you, know we 1340 01:12:11.960 --> 01:12:14.920 talked about the name. Confusion why does it seem like 1341 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:16.960 he was Called Sterling golden In Gulf coast as well 1342 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.000 As Terry boulder as well as just The. HULK i 1343 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:20.640 mean we just read the. Articles he was called The 1344 01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:22.880 hulk and nothing else when he first. 1345 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:23.039 He was. 1346 01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:29.479 Being promoted as a h legal reason maybe Brother Ron 1347 01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.720 fuller said in another, podcast we initially called Him Sterling 1348 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:33.960 golden and Says Billy spears called Him Sterling. Golden is, 1349 01:12:34.039 --> 01:12:37.039 mentioned But terry wanted to be Called, boulder but primarily 1350 01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:39.560 we called him The, hulk he, Said louis till that told, 1351 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:41.479 ME i want to call this guy The. Hulk and, 1352 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.079 yes back in those, Days Ron fuller said The hulk 1353 01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:47.039 was a big, thing And louis, said let's just call 1354 01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.600 him The. Hulk and later, on, Oh, louis can we 1355 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:55.399 can we Give louie. Credit, absolutely we can Give louie 1356 01:12:55.439 --> 01:13:00.560 credit for Calling Terry boulet The. HULK i mean that's, 1357 01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:05.439 big that's, huge full of, remembers you, know after you're 1358 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:07.399 laying eyes on him and working with, him also making 1359 01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:10.760 a trip To tampa at one point to get a 1360 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:12.199 look At ballet and see what he looked like and 1361 01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:14.199 offer him the opportunity to come work for them and 1362 01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:17.000 make a star out of. Him and here in the 1363 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.800 studcast this is a Classic ron like did you meet 1364 01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:21.640 him or? Not did you lay eyes on him the 1365 01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:23.239 first time going to work against, him or did you 1366 01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:25.159 lay eyes on? HIM i went to fucking recruit. Him 1367 01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.239 can we please figure this? Out apparently, Not, no you. 1368 01:13:28.359 --> 01:13:30.960 Can't Here's ron on the pod talking about this whole, 1369 01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:32.760 thing And Louis tillette to. 1370 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:36.680 Him sometimes as just Simply Hawk and why is? That 1371 01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:39.279 is there a leg legal reason for that or what's 1372 01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:39.840 why Just. 1373 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:40.239 Hulk. 1374 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:44.880 NO i, mean you, know he started for. Us we're 1375 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:48.920 the first wrestling, Company southeastern that he ever wrestled. For 1376 01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:53.399 and you, know WHEN i first saw him And louis 1377 01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:57.640 first saw, Him louis told Me ron he, GOES i 1378 01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:00.880 want to call this guy The. Hulk and back in those, 1379 01:14:01.039 --> 01:14:05.920 days The hulk was a pretty big feature in. Television 1380 01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:09.119 there it is the Actual, hulk the. Bodybuilder, yeah The, 1381 01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:15.479 hulk you, know and Obviously hogan that, big, big great body. 1382 01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:19.159 Too so, uh you, Know luis, said let's just call 1383 01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:22.640 him The. Hulk The hulk. Wow so that's where he 1384 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:26.800 got That. Hulk from later, on probably in his third 1385 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.800 or fourth territory that he worked in was For Vince 1386 01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.239 senior and w W f before it became W w 1387 01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:39.000 even and he got that. NAME i think that's where 1388 01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:41.720 he got That hogan tied on to the end Of. 1389 01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:45.079 Hulk, So louis To, lett your, booker is the one 1390 01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:50.000 who first used the Word hulk in association with who 1391 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:54.520 was eventually to Become Superstar Hulk hogan as we know him. 1392 01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:55.600 Today that's. 1393 01:14:55.720 --> 01:15:00.199 Great it's where he got the Names superstar l part 1394 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:03.840 of his name that he was so famous for came 1395 01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:06.159 From louis To let In southeastern. 1396 01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:08.720 Wrestling there it is nail it. 1397 01:15:08.760 --> 01:15:10.279 DOWN i don't know who THIS i don't know who 1398 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.399 this fucking a superstar is the superstar with a gram 1399 01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:16.840 of course he meant the Superstar hulk coviin, yes but 1400 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:19.600 there it is nail it, Down. BABY i feel like 1401 01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:22.119 we found All we're gonna find about who was the 1402 01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:24.439 first person to lay eyes On Terry bole and say 1403 01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:28.359 you are The. Hulk LOUIS Toi lett and there's a. 1404 01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:32.680 Guy there's a guy in the territory Named Herb. Calvert 1405 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:35.159 this was like an old, shooter guy that had the 1406 01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:37.119 respect of the fans in that part of the, country 1407 01:15:37.479 --> 01:15:39.640 a guy that they kind of considered like a, mainstay 1408 01:15:39.760 --> 01:15:41.760 not not a not a world, beater not a, superstar 1409 01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:44.159 but a guy that was deeply. Respected he would actually 1410 01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:46.119 do the challenges of fans out of the. Audience he 1411 01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.840 was like the the territory shooter in that. Regard and 1412 01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:55.439 and you better believe at a at a certain, point 1413 01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:01.239 The hulk gets interested in This Herb calval. Challenge, okay 1414 01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:06.520 gets very interested and here in a clip from the, 1415 01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:11.720 saidcast we get a further development of The hulk On Alabama. 1416 01:16:11.800 --> 01:16:14.960 Television calvert took care of, business and he showed the, 1417 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:19.840 ringer the arena, fans and then and then the, challengers 1418 01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:23.319 and they were in the. Ring the five, five one 1419 01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.720 hundred dollar bills that he had here was his. Money 1420 01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.560 he gave the money to the, referee as he had always, 1421 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:30.880 done because you can't wrestle where you're gonna put the 1422 01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:33.640 five hundred. Dollars he gave it the referee to hang on. 1423 01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:38.600 To so immediately after he beats the second challenger from the. 1424 01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:42.199 Audience you, know this Is hulk's first. Night bear in, 1425 01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:44.880 mind it's the first time people have ever seen him, live, 1426 01:16:45.079 --> 01:16:48.199 right so you, know he stands, there he watches this. 1427 01:16:48.439 --> 01:16:52.920 Deal and then immediately After calvert wins the second, match you, 1428 01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:55.800 know And calvert reaches, down he picks the guy up 1429 01:16:55.960 --> 01:16:58.600 that he beat quote boats in the ring man he 1430 01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:01.880 Nailed calvert from, behind and he shoved the fan down 1431 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.880 and put him with his, foot booted him out of 1432 01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:07.720 the ring into the. Floor and then he picked Up 1433 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:09.880 calvert and he put him in a bear, hood, uh 1434 01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:15.520 and he started swinging him. Around you, know the match 1435 01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:19.039 had the second match hadn't been officially, said it was 1436 01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:22.079 done and The hawks already got calvered up in a bear, 1437 01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:24.479 hug and the referee tried to stop him as best he, 1438 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:27.319 could you. Know and then when he couldn't stop, it 1439 01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:30.640 he signaled the timekeeper and they started ringing the bell 1440 01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:34.760 to stop the, match a match that had never officially 1441 01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.399 won as a matter of, fact you. Know so when 1442 01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:42.600 The Harvard calvert's arms went limp, hok just dropped him 1443 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:45.720 like a bad. HABIT i hate, them and you, know 1444 01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:47.800 he'd done what he wanted to. Do and then he 1445 01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:51.000 grabbed a referee and he turned him upside down and 1446 01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:54.199 he held him with one hand around the, ankle and 1447 01:17:54.319 --> 01:17:57.199 he reached in there and Got calverts five hundred dollars 1448 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:59.399 out of the rod spogger and he left the. 1449 01:17:59.520 --> 01:18:03.159 Ring, wow that is what a way to get started for, 1450 01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:06.199 real all. Right so that had to be some real 1451 01:18:06.319 --> 01:18:09.600 heat on the first night he was ever in the. 1452 01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:14.439 City, yeah so let's just say you got you say 1453 01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:16.880 you got everybody's, ATTENTION i can tell you. That and, 1454 01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:20.680 then and like most times in mobile with, heat you, 1455 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:23.359 know and people were jumping up out of their seats 1456 01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.560 and getting in the aisles to try to stop. You 1457 01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:27.920 nobody tried to stop him on his way to the. 1458 01:18:28.039 --> 01:18:33.159 Dresser they showed him a lot of. Respect luis, said 1459 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:36.640 they kind of let everybody just sit there, like, wow 1460 01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.760 we don't like. It BUT i no one messed with. 1461 01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.439 That, yeah no one messed with. THAT i, mean just 1462 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.640 to to picture like the Future Hulk hogan running out 1463 01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:49.880 there and just beating up a fan for heat and 1464 01:18:51.479 --> 01:18:54.000 taking down Herb calvert and bear hugging the guy that 1465 01:18:54.199 --> 01:18:57.319 was like The Territory, shooter the guy nobody could. Touch, 1466 01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:01.319 like nobody knows this stuff about what he was doing 1467 01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:03.880 In South coast until this podcast came. Out, yea unless 1468 01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.640 unless you watch the Tell Crazy. Time and So i'm 1469 01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:11.000 just sitting there riveted because we're getting actual testimonials of 1470 01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:13.520 what it was like to watch the television without having the. 1471 01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:15.600 Video it's got to be the next best. Thing it's 1472 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.920 way better than just even reading it on. Paper oh for. 1473 01:19:19.039 --> 01:19:22.279 SURE i, mean you, know hearing him say it is is. 1474 01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.840 INCREDIBLE i mean, yeah the next thing you'd need is 1475 01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:26.399 really to be able to watch. It and it's a 1476 01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:29.279 shame we can't watch, it but well there's a young 1477 01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:31.159 man Named John kirk who couldn't watch it as. Well 1478 01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:33.000 this is kind of just off to the. Side MAYBE 1479 01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:35.399 i don't, know maybe Young John kirk was so terrified 1480 01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:36.760 of this New hulk that it had led to, this, 1481 01:19:37.039 --> 01:19:40.560 boss why don't you hit us with what appears in 1482 01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:43.319 nineteen seventy Nine april twenty seventh and The Dothan eagle 1483 01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:50.199 Actually april. Thirty the clipping is entitled nineteen seventy nine 1484 01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:58.920 four twenty, Seven oh for, Twenties okay The Dothan. Eagle, 1485 01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:06.880 ooh youth dies Here. Friday John, kirk sixteen year old 1486 01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:09.680 son of mister And Missus Arnold, kirk was pronounced dead 1487 01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.319 on arrival at The Southeast Medical Center friday night following 1488 01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:16.800 a series of. Seizures kirk was attending the wrestling matches 1489 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.199 at The Farm center when his friends noticed he was 1490 01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:24.000 quote acting. Funny kirk then went into something comparable to 1491 01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:26.560 seizures and was taking to the medical. Center according to 1492 01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:30.960 Corner Jack, still an autopsy showed That kirk died from 1493 01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:35.439 a brain. Hemorrhage very, SAD i very. MUCH i. Understand 1494 01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:38.680 Terry bolea looked out into the audience and saw him 1495 01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:42.000 and reached out for him before he passed, away and 1496 01:20:42.039 --> 01:20:46.720 later wrote a song about. It rest in, Peace John? 1497 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:53.560 Carter what was? It what's the? SONG i haven't needed another. 1498 01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:55.279 Needed a? 1499 01:20:55.920 --> 01:21:01.439 Maniac how Many olka maniacs are? Dead, LIKE i, mean 1500 01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:04.039 what's it? CALLED i can't think of the name of 1501 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.880 the Fucking let me find it. Here, YEAH i Know 1502 01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:09.760 i've got the weve got the whole album has to 1503 01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:11.720 be where he got the idea. Here it has to. Be, 1504 01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:17.760 Oh hulkster In. Heaven that's. Right it makes it sound 1505 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:25.520 like he's in heaven he, died, Right. NOTMANIA i know you're, 1506 01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:30.840 right that's, right it's Not holkamaniac can have. IT i 1507 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:34.279 never even noticed. That that's like fucking. Weird so, like 1508 01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:38.800 why would you call It hulkster In? Heaven it just 1509 01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.800 makes no. Sense so we go forward here to the 1510 01:21:42.399 --> 01:21:45.159 seventy Nine april. Thirtieth here's a clipping from The Alabama. 1511 01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:48.119 Journal this Is Southeastern wrestling. Again it come, on we're. 1512 01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:50.680 Moving we're getting this. Here oh you're bringing it. Up, 1513 01:21:50.680 --> 01:21:51.159 OKAY i got. 1514 01:21:51.239 --> 01:22:05.039 IT i was TELLING i read in the, PAPERS. 1515 01:22:05.800 --> 01:22:06.640 I saw it ON. 1516 01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:11.800 TV i guess you'll be an empty seat WHEN i. 1517 01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:12.880 Wrestled it will be. 1518 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:18.199 LEAVE i used to tear my, shirt but now you 1519 01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:22.319 tore my. HEART i knew you were a healthy maniac 1520 01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:28.239 right from the very. Start from, YOU. 1521 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:34.560 I see you. 1522 01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:37.279 As you see. 1523 01:22:37.359 --> 01:22:41.159 Him now when comes to. 1524 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:47.560 Kind out, again. 1525 01:22:48.840 --> 01:22:49.199 We are. 1526 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:03.319 Brought his friend to the. END i think that kid 1527 01:23:03.439 --> 01:23:09.880 was a bolder. Maniac, actually, oh actually would. Be you 1528 01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:16.439 could have been all he could have been a hulk, 1529 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:21.000 maniac as we know about the king Of. Hulkmania, michael 1530 01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:26.119 thank you for. That so uh, wow thirty seventy, nine 1531 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:32.199 here he is. Lost another hulk. Maniac that's just greats just, 1532 01:23:32.279 --> 01:23:34.520 so there's so much a rhythm to, it you, know so. 1533 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:40.560 Harmonious like what was he fucking? Thinking, honestly he was, 1534 01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:43.439 thinking there's A uk that's gonna pay me to do an. 1535 01:23:43.439 --> 01:23:45.520 Album that's what he's. Thinking but it's, like you, know 1536 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:47.880 it's like he's he's trying to Be Eric clapton writing 1537 01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:51.279 that song about you know Is, yeah it's just, Dude, 1538 01:23:51.399 --> 01:24:00.319 no all, right you can't holkster in heaven And i'll 1539 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:09.000 see you. Again another, hulk a. MEDIAC i know what 1540 01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:12.079 music we're going to play at his? Vigil oh, god 1541 01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:12.840 you know damn. 1542 01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:13.079 Well. 1543 01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:16.960 Yeah But april, thirtieth here he is in the, paper 1544 01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.439 The hulk versus The wrestling pro and the main event 1545 01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:21.720 at every top of the. Bill look at his face 1546 01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:23.920 there you can see. Him it's blonde, hair but the 1547 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:29.359 mustache is. Black that's. Alarming, yeah, listen his his his 1548 01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:35.520 inability to decide what he looks. Like he's a real fucking. 1549 01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:40.800 Problem all. Right he needs to. Choose you need to. 1550 01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:44.239 Choose it's a, really really well put. Point how about, This, 1551 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.960 april pardon? Me it also looks like he looks like 1552 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:49.840 A i don't, know it looks like the photo you 1553 01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:52.439 have when YOU'RE i don't. Know have you seen this? 1554 01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:56.079 Man absolutely it does what that looks? Like Milk Carton 1555 01:24:57.279 --> 01:24:59.960 about The may, third seventy nine clipping Here giants color 1556 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:05.760 in wrestling from The Panama City News. Herald, yes One 1557 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:08.319 giant and one Super giant will be in the local 1558 01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:12.000 wrestling ring tonight when seven foot four Inch andre The 1559 01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:14.479 giant teams up with Roy Lee welch in a tag 1560 01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:18.399 team match with The hulk six Foot they're saying that 1561 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.720 Hul cogan is taller than under The. Giant. Correct, oh, 1562 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:23.520 no he said seven Foot, No i'm, sorry they said 1563 01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:25.199 seven foot. FOUR i might have said six foot. Four 1564 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:28.119 they said seven foot. Four he is six foot, six my, 1565 01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:37.680 bad and, wait hold, on excuse, me hold, On, OKAY 1566 01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:40.279 i JUST i NEEDED i needed to sit up for 1567 01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:43.079 a moment and like just lean in here to see 1568 01:25:43.079 --> 01:25:47.439 IF i got this. Right, okay in a tag team, 1569 01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:50.840 MATCH i go at the beginning, here One giant and 1570 01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:53.159 one Super giant will be in the local wrestling ring 1571 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.800 tonight when seven foot four Inch under The giant teams 1572 01:25:55.880 --> 01:25:58.479 up with Roy Lee welch in a tag team match 1573 01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:08.239 against The hulk six foot six and weighing six hundred. 1574 01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:13.600 Pounds that is. Six that must. Be that must mean 1575 01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:17.760 the combination two and the no no he's because look 1576 01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:20.359 it says The hulk six foot six and weighing six 1577 01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:24.920 hundred pounds and The. Gladiator so they're Saying Hulk hogan 1578 01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:27.199 weighs because here's and is the best part here at 1579 01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:30.000 bowl Rescum, andre who was a headline attraction throughout the, 1580 01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:33.359 country weighs four hundred and eighty four. Pounds so they're 1581 01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:38.319 saying That Hulk hogan weighs more Than under The, giant 1582 01:26:38.359 --> 01:26:40.880 one hundred and twenty pounds more Than under The. Giant 1583 01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:44.399 did you know That Terry boley when he was In 1584 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:49.119 Gulf coast weighed six hundred pounds hundred, pounds yet somehow 1585 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:56.399 did not look like. YOKOZUNA i can't be. That that's 1586 01:26:57.119 --> 01:27:01.479 like the pure laziness of the of these typos is 1587 01:27:01.680 --> 01:27:06.159 really it's it's really. Bad six hundred pounds all, right 1588 01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:10.399 whatever you, Say wait six for, six six hundred, pounds 1589 01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:12.279 so you got a six six six is the fucking 1590 01:27:12.319 --> 01:27:14.439 devil rights, Right it's a, level that's. 1591 01:27:14.439 --> 01:27:14.600 All that. 1592 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:16.880 Was the guy taking dictation just heard six to six 1593 01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:19.960 and then heard another six put out of the weight as. Well, 1594 01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:23.520 UH i, mean so here he, IS i mean being 1595 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:27.159 listed and the same breath is under the. Giant that's 1596 01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:29.880 on the day of nineteen seventy. Nine and to hear, 1597 01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.640 a you, know run fuller tell. It it's not Like 1598 01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:36.760 Terry bulea was full of all kinds of confidence getting 1599 01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:40.279 this kind of attention and push this. Early he was 1600 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:42.760 kind of terrified about doing something wrong out. There AND 1601 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:45.119 i think we get quite a bit of a glimpse 1602 01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:49.680 into how Quickly terry had to learn to find comfort and. 1603 01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.479 Discomfort then the second match had the same rnswer in, 1604 01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:56.960 it you, know that had shocked the studio audience a week, 1605 01:27:57.079 --> 01:28:00.640 before and this time it was no. Different the studio 1606 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:03.239 crowd went silent as soon as they saw him come 1607 01:28:03.319 --> 01:28:07.840 around the dressing room the door at the television. Station 1608 01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:11.159 And Charlie platt told me later he was surprised that 1609 01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:14.359 the crowd had to guts the pooh of the hook at, 1610 01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:18.239 all even a little, bit he. Said and he, said 1611 01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:22.199 because this was his SECOND tv, match they now knew 1612 01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:24.560 he was a. Heel so a few of them did, 1613 01:28:24.640 --> 01:28:27.279 booing you, Know and they said the others were so 1614 01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:32.359 intimidated by him that they didn't even didn't react much 1615 01:28:32.479 --> 01:28:35.680 to his. Match and the problem was they didn't get 1616 01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:38.000 to see him but about half as much in the 1617 01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:40.560 SECOND tv match as they did in the first, one 1618 01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:43.800 because when the bell, Rang us just reached over and 1619 01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:47.520 grabbed his opponent by the hair the back of his 1620 01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.920 head and he ran him face first across the ring 1621 01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:53.680 and into the turnbuckle so hard it knocked him. Out 1622 01:28:54.279 --> 01:28:57.720 the guy went down on his, face didn't, move so 1623 01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:01.079 then hopefully you know what's he going to do, then 1624 01:29:01.199 --> 01:29:04.039 so you, Know huk just snatched him, up put him 1625 01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:07.000 in the bear. Hug, anyway he just slung him around 1626 01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.800 the guy's arms were just flying in the air and 1627 01:29:10.279 --> 01:29:14.399 flailing around, wildly and the referee finally he gets the 1628 01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:18.560 match stopped and rings the bell raises Hawk can in. 1629 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:22.680 SILENCE i, mean they don't even boo this, time you, 1630 01:29:22.760 --> 01:29:25.640 know they're just the fans didn't know how to accept. 1631 01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:28.840 Him he was such a he had such an impact on, 1632 01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.039 fans and tag a little more impact for the first 1633 01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:35.720 time in this. Match The hunk faced the cameras and 1634 01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:39.279 he gave that very impressive trap shot that he was 1635 01:29:39.319 --> 01:29:42.079 going to become so famous for in the. Future you, 1636 01:29:42.159 --> 01:29:45.119 know he cranked those shoulders and arms out there and 1637 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:48.560 popped his traps up. There And charlie, said as soon 1638 01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:51.399 as The huk disappeared in the dress, room the studio 1639 01:29:51.479 --> 01:29:54.840 crowd started buzzing and probably had those people home did as. 1640 01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:55.640 Well Wow. 1641 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.199 Wow so do you think The hulk came up with 1642 01:29:58.239 --> 01:29:59.119 the trap shot on his? 1643 01:29:59.239 --> 01:29:59.760 Own was that His? 1644 01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.279 NO i got to feel the men that just went 1645 01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:08.039 back to the booker, again To, louis To Leett terry 1646 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:12.159 was so young and so. Green he was terrified about 1647 01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.199 maybe doing something. Wrong he was so concerned he was 1648 01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:19.760 going to do something that we didn't want to, happen And. 1649 01:30:20.399 --> 01:30:24.680 Wow and so it being That green was no, doubt you, 1650 01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.800 know he was getting the fastest push any wrestler in 1651 01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:32.039 history ever had in his first few. Matches it was 1652 01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:35.840 unheard of to be winning your first matches in the 1653 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:39.359 ring ON. TV i, mean that just didn't happen anywhere 1654 01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.000 in the. World it only happened because of his size 1655 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:42.720 of what he looked. 1656 01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:46.399 Like see that really fascinats me because the studios that 1657 01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:52.840 he was filmed. In, originally THIS tv Show Pardon, me 1658 01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:57.720 was originated In, Dothan. Alabama so and that SAME tv 1659 01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:00.680 show Correct me on, this it was also seen In, 1660 01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:03.319 Montgomery mobile anyplace. 1661 01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:07.119 Else, well later, on it's going to be seen In, Birmingham, 1662 01:31:07.239 --> 01:31:11.199 Alabama it's going to be seen In, Mississippi it'll be 1663 01:31:11.399 --> 01:31:14.600 seen back In. Tennessee, WOW i mean. It you know 1664 01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.520 that it all emanates out of that SMALL wtv weis 1665 01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.359 studio In, Bothan. Alabama. 1666 01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:23.520 Yeah and so that's amazing THAT i was sitting there 1667 01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.279 watching it that day when this, guy The hulk as 1668 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:30.520 we're calling him, now came on the. Scene and it's 1669 01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:33.560 amazing to me to hear you talk about how green 1670 01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:36.199 he was and he was afraid that he was going 1671 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.680 to mess something up because he was new to this. 1672 01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:42.039 Business and then when you look at, him, well obviously 1673 01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:47.079 during his, career just the word confidence is never. Doubted 1674 01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:51.600 this guy just ruled everything that every ring he ever stepped. 1675 01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:52.560 Into that's. 1676 01:31:52.600 --> 01:31:53.000 Amazing. 1677 01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:55.600 LISTEN i saw quite a few of those EARLY tv 1678 01:31:55.720 --> 01:31:58.199 matches in those, days but the ones that really got 1679 01:31:58.239 --> 01:32:02.079 my attention was when he put the bear hug on 1680 01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.520 some of them and this is. 1681 01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.680 Weird they would start bleeding from the. 1682 01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:09.159 Mouth, yeah. 1683 01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:14.560 It, was so he was so, Green. Dave in order 1684 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:16.840 to really get him, over whether it was ON tv 1685 01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:20.159 or in the, buildings we had to focus on just 1686 01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:23.399 one move for him because he didn't do a whole 1687 01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:26.600 lot of rustling, moves and that one move that he 1688 01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:30.560 could do very well was the bear, hug, right you. 1689 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:34.600 Know and so when these wrestlers started bleeding from their, 1690 01:32:34.720 --> 01:32:38.720 mouth that's when his persona really took. Off you, know 1691 01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:41.359 people saw him put the barrel hug on him and 1692 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.680 the guys give, Up but when he squeezed them to 1693 01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:48.640 the point that they bled from their, mouth that's what 1694 01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:53.039 really made a. Difference then then that he became something 1695 01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:57.680 more than just this, big huge. Guy he became somewhat 1696 01:32:57.720 --> 01:33:01.880 a monster at that, point you, know and it not 1697 01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:04.840 only did his persona take, off but so did The 1698 01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:08.399 southeastern houses down, there you, know in that part of the. 1699 01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:12.800 Country business just went. Crazy oh because. 1700 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:16.079 We saw him ON tv and he was like looking 1701 01:33:16.119 --> 01:33:16.720 At andre The. 1702 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:19.880 Giant we'd never seen anything like that ON tv before 1703 01:33:20.119 --> 01:33:22.880 as far as wrestling. Goes of, Course andrea was the 1704 01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:25.479 Eighth wonder of the. World and then This hawk guy 1705 01:33:25.640 --> 01:33:28.039 was like have you people were calling people on the, 1706 01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:30.479 phone have you seen this? Guy and so then, oh 1707 01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:31.920 he's going to be at a farm. Center he's going 1708 01:33:31.960 --> 01:33:34.479 to Be holy. Cow so The hawk stuff is really 1709 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:39.039 amazing seeing how fast you guys made a monster out of. 1710 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:42.880 Him so that's that's really. Cool so, yeah the, blood you, 1711 01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:45.680 know he's, squeezing, guys and the bleeding from the, mouth that's. 1712 01:33:45.800 --> 01:33:50.239 Crazy that's. Crazy he's Just i'm okay with. That the 1713 01:33:50.279 --> 01:33:52.359 guy put it, well like he owned every ring he 1714 01:33:52.479 --> 01:33:55.079 was ever, In, like you got to work really hard 1715 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.399 to Make Terry belaya not seem like he's the brightest 1716 01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:00.479 star in the. Room, yeah and what he doesn't know 1717 01:34:00.479 --> 01:34:02.359 what the fuck he's doing in the, ring and that, 1718 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:04.680 uh or you gotta be The briscoes. Right, well to 1719 01:34:04.760 --> 01:34:06.239 my way of, thinking that's why he was run out 1720 01:34:06.239 --> 01:34:08.720 of town on a rail from From florida was because 1721 01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:12.600 you Know dusty and having that it's a bit, better 1722 01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:15.119 better to get him out of. Here but just man 1723 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:16.600 to be able to watch that, stuff as the co 1724 01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:19.800 host clearly. Did what a fucking, Privilege what a privilege 1725 01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:22.520 in retrospect it really is to be in that part 1726 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:26.439 of the country and to see to see him just 1727 01:34:26.840 --> 01:34:30.760 finding his way. Around AND i love to this description of, 1728 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:35.239 like it's not just That hulk himself was, huge it 1729 01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:39.760 was that he matched up With andre, physically and like 1730 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:42.720 you never you never thought of, That like you never 1731 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:45.800 thought of somebody right that would stand next To andrea 1732 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:49.680 and Make andre seem normal. Sized. Yep and it just 1733 01:34:49.760 --> 01:34:53.640 it endlessly fascinates me that from the absolute very, Beginning, 1734 01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:58.119 Yep terry Had andre The giant to thank for coming 1735 01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:02.279 across as larger than. Life, yes from the first month 1736 01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:05.960 in the, business because of the way circumstances turned, out 1737 01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:09.000 and the fact That montreal Man Louis tilt had the 1738 01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:14.399 Book good Knew andre well unbelievable set of circumstances, HERE i, mean, 1739 01:35:14.720 --> 01:35:17.479 honestly you talk about laps there and seraen w you 1740 01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:20.880 talk about the stars. LINING i, mean that's that's what happened. 1741 01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:23.520 Here you, know that's this is this is The these 1742 01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:27.680 are the, things the the intangibles that are happening to 1743 01:35:27.760 --> 01:35:32.159 help make Hul cogan into Hul covid timing, elements you know. 1744 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:38.640 Exactly and what's so fascinating is that you read Both hulk's, 1745 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.960 books you Read andre's, books the books that have written About. 1746 01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:44.800 Andrea you listen all the Interviews hulk did about coming 1747 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:46.960 up in the world and how much respect and deference 1748 01:35:46.960 --> 01:35:48.680 he has For andre and how much he owes. Him, 1749 01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:52.680 ever do they talk about this part of. Things, Nope 1750 01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:55.159 hulk does, talk as we've, read about being in The 1751 01:35:55.159 --> 01:35:58.000 Gulf coast territory and breaking in For Ron. Fuller does 1752 01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:01.479 he once mention that he paths With andre The giant 1753 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:05.399 for the first time In? Alabama nary a. Mention why is? 1754 01:36:05.479 --> 01:36:09.199 THAT i have to land on the explanation that they 1755 01:36:09.319 --> 01:36:14.119 got so bought in to the idea that the McMahon's 1756 01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:17.880 discovered the money dynamic between Putting Hulk cogan And andrea 1757 01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:20.119 The giant in the ring together And New york was 1758 01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:22.439 a big man's, territory and blah blah blah blah blah 1759 01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:26.800 that this just doesn't fit in the. Narrative it's just 1760 01:36:27.479 --> 01:36:29.680 it doesn't have a. Place, well it's kind of funny 1761 01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:35.159 because in, reality it really could have thought they could 1762 01:36:35.159 --> 01:36:37.479 have easily made it. WORK i, mean how would you play? 1763 01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:40.560 IT i mean just the, idea, like, like you, know 1764 01:36:41.279 --> 01:36:45.520 how how great would it have been If andre cutting 1765 01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:48.720 promos On hogan being again To WrestleMania, three SAYS i 1766 01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:55.479 remember you you don't like to talk about, it but you, 1767 01:36:55.560 --> 01:36:57.760 know like going into that, Ship, LIKE i think that 1768 01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:00.560 would have been. CRAZY i think it would have added 1769 01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:02.840 so much more depth to. It nothing they not the 1770 01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:06.199 obviously look like they they sold out the fucking Silver 1771 01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:10.039 master storytelling no, problem, Masterful but, LIKE i think adding 1772 01:37:10.119 --> 01:37:13.960 that stuff just makes it even more. Legendary, YEAH i. 1773 01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:17.119 Agree can you, imagine, Though Vince, junior in the frame 1774 01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:19.600 of mind he had about himself and his position in the, 1775 01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:24.039 world Having andrea acknowledged the existence of the state In, 1776 01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:26.840 alabama let alone it was wrestling. TERRITORY i know he 1777 01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.600 wouldn't Have he wouldn't even acknowledge that these two wrestled 1778 01:37:30.640 --> 01:37:34.760 in nineteen eighty and Fucking chase stating in the same company's. Dad, yeah, 1779 01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:40.800 amazing and so in the lore Of Hogan, andre it 1780 01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:43.199 has to start in nineteen eighty it can't start any. 1781 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:46.319 Earlier and they went kicking and screaming to acknowledging that 1782 01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:49.880 they had wrestled. Before as anybody who was watching eighty 1783 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:52.359 seven knows that one of the huge parts of the 1784 01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:55.520 presentation Was andrea was never defeated ever in, wrestling and 1785 01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:57.600 he never Faced Hulk, hogan and now it's going to, 1786 01:37:57.640 --> 01:38:01.039 happen and it's like. Bullshit he didn't Fa he is 1787 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:04.560 the first goddamn guy he ever. Saw, yep, exactly but 1788 01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:07.680 he didn't. Know he's asked from The holy. GROUND i 1789 01:38:07.840 --> 01:38:11.039 cannot believe that it worked out this way For Darry. 1790 01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:14.119 Boley it's fucking. Amazing but the fact that it's radio 1791 01:38:14.239 --> 01:38:16.520 silence about this ever, happening and the only reason we 1792 01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:19.960 know about it is that for some reason that This 1793 01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:23.119 Wrestling gold vhs that got released found the footage of 1794 01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:25.880 the Arm Wrestling angle and distributed it in stores to 1795 01:38:25.920 --> 01:38:29.079 try to sell. Tapes that's like the only reason it's. 1796 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:32.520 Unbelievable it REALLY i just can't say it to myself 1797 01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:36.279 enough and come to terms with. IT i just can't accept. 1798 01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:40.840 That we Get hogan figuring out that he's money With 1799 01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.119 andrea in his first month back in the. Business so 1800 01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:48.159 here's a bit more tantalizing and frustrating descriptions of what 1801 01:38:48.279 --> 01:38:51.319 this television looked and felt. Like here is from the 1802 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.159 Studcast Ron fuller Describing Billy, spears the manager To Hulk, 1803 01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:57.119 hogan and what they called the personality profile, segment which is, 1804 01:38:57.159 --> 01:38:59.359 basically let's go to the desk and do an interview 1805 01:38:59.399 --> 01:39:01.239 instead of go to the ring and watch a. Match 1806 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:04.760 And hulk is introduced to the studio audience And. Dolphin 1807 01:39:05.319 --> 01:39:08.079 he is accompanied by two other charges Of Billy, spears 1808 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:11.439 the tag team champions of The, Territory Rip tyler And Eddie. 1809 01:39:11.720 --> 01:39:13.479 Sullivan so folks are going to start to get to 1810 01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:17.119 know The hulk as a presence and as a protegee 1811 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:19.199 as a client Of Billy. 1812 01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:22.880 Spears spears sat down With. Charlie he had his two 1813 01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:26.439 tag champions behind, him they had their belts, on and 1814 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:31.239 then he had his mask gladiator standing with them and 1815 01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:35.359 they bragged about his, men you, know the guys that 1816 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:40.199 he already had standing behind him his two champions and 1817 01:39:40.359 --> 01:39:43.039 his gladiator that was soon going to be a champion. 1818 01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:48.079 Himself and then out of, nowhere he hadn't been doing thirty. 1819 01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:52.640 Seconds he just changed the subject, entirely and he basically 1820 01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:55.800 said the three of, Them he, said, oge thank you 1821 01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:58.640 guys for coming out with, me and goes for this 1822 01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:03.359 triumph a, moment but, uh you, know basically insulted all 1823 01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:06.720 three of them, then but he, says young going back 1824 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:09.479 to the dressing, room he, says Because i'm about to 1825 01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:14.960 introduce my lady's. Acquisition so the three wrestlers they looked 1826 01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:19.239 at each. Other, man they had no, idea, like what's 1827 01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:19.600 going on? 1828 01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:20.439 Here who is? 1829 01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:23.840 There what are you talking? About and then so and 1830 01:40:24.039 --> 01:40:27.319 then you know they probably knowing spears. Though they just 1831 01:40:27.680 --> 01:40:28.760 went on to the dressing. 1832 01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:29.319 Room and. 1833 01:40:31.039 --> 01:40:34.000 Then billy got out of his, chair you, know and 1834 01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:36.960 he dug down deep in his pants pocket, man and 1835 01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.439 he pulled out a lot of. Money. Man you, know 1836 01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:43.439 he didn't say what it, was but it, was you, 1837 01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:45.680 know it was a handful of this, time and it 1838 01:40:45.800 --> 01:40:49.439 was far beyond what he'd ever given the other, guys you, 1839 01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:52.239 know and he'd given away some pretty decent money to 1840 01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:56.399 his tag team. Guys so then it was you, know 1841 01:40:57.399 --> 01:41:00.000 then he was acting like he was The master's ceremony 1842 01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.560 and he's had a at a circus, man and he 1843 01:41:02.720 --> 01:41:06.880 was going to introduce the almighty himself. Man and he 1844 01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:10.000 raised his voice up and he, SAYS i have found 1845 01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:13.880 the greatest rastro on the planet and the man that's 1846 01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:17.039 going to take me to the Promised land WHEN i 1847 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:22.640 become the manager of the next world Heavyweight. Champion what you. 1848 01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:23.039 Know so. 1849 01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:27.159 Wow they looked around at the two sets of bleachers 1850 01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:30.359 next to they were full of, fans and he, said 1851 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:35.039 get up to, them stand up to honor this. Moment 1852 01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:40.600 obviously they just, booed, right nobody got. Up they just 1853 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:44.399 started to boo. Him and then he introduced his so 1854 01:41:44.680 --> 01:41:52.840 called next world Evyweight, Champion Sterling, golden The Sterling, Golden Sterling, 1855 01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:57.239 Golden sterling. Golden and you know he that was the 1856 01:41:57.319 --> 01:42:00.279 word the first time anybody heard of him is Earning. 1857 01:42:00.399 --> 01:42:03.680 Golden SO hk came out of the dressing room door 1858 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:07.399 on the far side of the. Studio obviously there's a 1859 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:09.760 monitor back, there and when he gets, it when he 1860 01:42:09.960 --> 01:42:13.920 Sees billy dig into his pants and bring out that 1861 01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:17.479 wad of. Money, Boy and so it comes out of 1862 01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:21.119 the studio the dressing. Room he's smiling from here to. 1863 01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:24.880 Here Man and while the booze, intensified he comes over 1864 01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:27.720 and he grabs A billy and he gives him a big, 1865 01:42:27.880 --> 01:42:31.319 hug you, Know and and Then billy starts to sit. 1866 01:42:31.439 --> 01:42:34.000 Down The cooch's going to walk around to stand behind 1867 01:42:34.079 --> 01:42:36.880 him like the other guy's, work but the huk stops. 1868 01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:40.359 Him he grabs him by his jacket there, right and 1869 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:43.560 he spends him around and he sticks out his. Head 1870 01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:46.560 billy still got the, money and he's. 1871 01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:46.760 Head. 1872 01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:50.479 Oh billy, goes oh, yeah. Yeah he puts a handful 1873 01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:54.399 of money in the oaks and the oak's hand and you, 1874 01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:58.960 know and that's not everything about this relationship between those, two, 1875 01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:03.840 obviously this says all about. Money, well Then charlie's first 1876 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:07.520 question was where did you come? Up where did you 1877 01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.680 come up with that? Name Sterling goldan From? Billy you, 1878 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:15.279 KNOW i never heard anybody call him. Dad and he, 1879 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:18.079 says you, know, well he, Says, charlie because because this 1880 01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:22.279 man is pure silver and, Gold sterling for the silver 1881 01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:26.920 and obviously golden for the. Gold oh my, god he, 1882 01:43:27.079 --> 01:43:31.079 said he, said he, said this man is going to change, 1883 01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:35.920 everything especially you, know and he, said he, says And 1884 01:43:36.159 --> 01:43:39.359 i'm going to change. Him he, goes especially his sweet 1885 01:43:39.439 --> 01:43:42.760 attitude in the. Ring he, goes he needs to be a. 1886 01:43:42.920 --> 01:43:45.920 Monster he, Goes i'm going to make a monster sensation 1887 01:43:46.079 --> 01:43:48.479 out of. Him i'm going to lead this guy to 1888 01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:52.920 The World Resting championship And i'm going to take that. 1889 01:43:53.119 --> 01:43:56.680 Trip it's going to start today right here in THIS 1890 01:43:56.960 --> 01:44:00.359 Tv STUDIOS. 1891 01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:32.680 A wife call wrestling, podcast the wrestling podcast that knows 1892 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:50.520 the boys need their. Candy it's The Lapsed. Fan sick 1893 01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:53.199 of the. Ads sign up for ad free shows and 1894 01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:57.119 even more content at patreon dot Com slash The Lapsed. 1895 01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:19.039 Fan he's An Lapsed fan wrestling podcast With jack N, 1896 01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:21.119 seo M jp Soorro. 1897 01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:25.760 So Now hulk is A gun For. Hire ye the 1898 01:45:25.800 --> 01:45:28.319 Way Ron fuller was describing in his very first in studio, 1899 01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:31.439 Appearances Terry, boleo while running someone over like a destructive, 1900 01:45:31.439 --> 01:45:33.079 heel was not doing it in a way where he 1901 01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:35.039 was playing up the fact that he was like this 1902 01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:38.039 monster and this bad. Guy you couldn't really tell was 1903 01:45:38.119 --> 01:45:39.720 he doing this for good or was he doing this for? 1904 01:45:39.800 --> 01:45:41.880 Evil he was, dominating so there was kind of a, 1905 01:45:41.960 --> 01:45:44.079 silence a hush that fell over the. Crowd but here 1906 01:45:44.159 --> 01:45:46.520 When Billy spears digs into his pocket on an episode Of, 1907 01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:49.920 southeastern pulls out the Big wad And Terry boulder Or 1908 01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:52.720 sterling The Hulk. Golden in case you weren't confused, enough 1909 01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:55.399 he was also apparently Called sterling The Hulk. Golden yeah 1910 01:45:55.520 --> 01:45:56.880 THAT i. KNOW i, MEAN i knew that with that 1911 01:45:56.960 --> 01:46:00.439 from the from the NEWSPAPERS i. Researched, yep he comes 1912 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:02.720 out and accepts the. MONEY i. KNOW i always thought 1913 01:46:02.760 --> 01:46:06.159 it's either The, Hulk Terry boulder Or Sterling, golden Not 1914 01:46:06.359 --> 01:46:09.199 sterling The Hulk, golden or just The hulk for that, 1915 01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:12.279 matter or just The. Hulk So Billy spears has paid him, 1916 01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:14.520 off and he said the, words he allowed himself to 1917 01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:17.600 utter the Words the next heavyweight champion of the, World 1918 01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.840 Terry boleya is back in the business for a, month 1919 01:46:22.119 --> 01:46:24.560 and the top manager In southeastern is on television saying 1920 01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:29.359 he's a future world heavyweight. Champion, yep you're not ready to. 1921 01:46:29.520 --> 01:46:33.479 Accept how Early Terry boleya was portrayed to the wrestling, 1922 01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:36.760 fans even in the limited reach Of Gulf coast as 1923 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.840 a massive. Deal there was no period where he was 1924 01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:43.239 just such a, greenhorn wet behind the, ears flailing, around 1925 01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:45.039 no idea what he's doing the way The florida guys 1926 01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:46.880 want you to think about. It, no, no, no no. 1927 01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:52.720 No he was money money from the. Beginning. DEAL i 1928 01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:55.600 mean it just shs to show you too like, that you. 1929 01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:59.880 KNOW i mean sometimes a look can really open that 1930 01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:03.640 door for. You, Absolutely sometimes a lot of the time 1931 01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:05.359 it always opens. It it's a question of tenu to 1932 01:47:05.399 --> 01:47:08.119 do something with. It, yeah and he had the. Instincts 1933 01:47:08.640 --> 01:47:11.079 he sure. Did he was showman for the. Music from 1934 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:14.199 a lifetime of watching pro, wrestling from observing these, guys 1935 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:19.039 from figuring out all, Right Superstar, Graham Dusty. RHODES i 1936 01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:21.840 can see what makes, them you, know, COOK i can 1937 01:47:21.880 --> 01:47:24.800 see what makes them stand. Out it's all. There so 1938 01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:28.079 he wrestles later on that, show Does terry Roy lee 1939 01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.319 Welch this was a cousin Of Ron fuller kind of 1940 01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:33.000 felt like he wanted to give this hulk a better. 1941 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:36.000 Opponent remembers this has been kind of the third time 1942 01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:39.479 on television For Terry. Bulan he won with a bear. 1943 01:47:39.560 --> 01:47:41.560 Hug it gets a little confusing BECAUSE i think sometimes 1944 01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.039 they taped multiple televisions in one, day so it's like 1945 01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:47.920 the same, day but it's his second and third and FOURTH. 1946 01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:54.000 Tv so, afterwards here's how that post match situation played. 1947 01:47:54.039 --> 01:47:57.560 Out, then the last match on THIS tv was going 1948 01:47:57.640 --> 01:48:03.720 to change, everything So Southeastern rustling And Southeastern Gulf coast as. Well, 1949 01:48:03.880 --> 01:48:09.159 Man So Sterling golden was up against my Cousin Roy 1950 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.439 Lee welch And, louis AND i wanted to give The 1951 01:48:12.520 --> 01:48:15.039 huk a much better opponent than he'd been. Having this 1952 01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:18.600 was only his third time ON tv and he had 1953 01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:22.640 won two matches with his Bird. Hug but it was 1954 01:48:22.840 --> 01:48:27.359 very obvious the personality profile has done his, Job, man 1955 01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:30.199 because when The hulk came out With Billy spears out 1956 01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:32.720 of the dressing room for this last match and edit 1957 01:48:32.840 --> 01:48:36.199 for the, ring there was no doubt anymore about the 1958 01:48:36.319 --> 01:48:39.840 fans from the fans, anyway about who The huk was 1959 01:48:39.920 --> 01:48:42.359 and what he was all. About and you could have 1960 01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:45.640 heard that crowd in the studio Booing Man Downtown, DOTHAN 1961 01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:49.399 i maan while they were really all of a, sudden 1962 01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:52.720 The huk is a heel and there ain't no doubt about. It, 1963 01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:55.760 wow so for the first time in A huk, match 1964 01:48:56.439 --> 01:49:00.479 he actually showed signs of being almost. HUMAN i, Mean 1965 01:49:01.479 --> 01:49:05.119 roy actually threw a couple of punches and he he 1966 01:49:05.279 --> 01:49:09.439 almost got him, staggering. Right, so but it was the 1967 01:49:09.640 --> 01:49:12.600 end of the match man that left everybody in that 1968 01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.960 studio and all of them at home, Too i'm, sure 1969 01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:19.840 and All hulk was finally able to Get roy in 1970 01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:23.239 his barehood and and he got him to give, up 1971 01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:26.520 just like he had the first two. Opponents and then 1972 01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:28.960 when he got the, victory he Dropped roy to the 1973 01:49:29.039 --> 01:49:31.880 mat and he just started to leave the ring like 1974 01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:35.199 he had done. Before But billy jumps up in the 1975 01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:38.800 ring and he stops him when he gets the ropes 1976 01:49:38.840 --> 01:49:43.880 and he, says, no go get him, finishing get him, 1977 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:47.319 again put him in it. Again and so The hulk, 1978 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:51.920 hesitated you. Know but his new, manager he's got a 1979 01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:56.039 handful of money, already you, know so he so he went. 1980 01:49:56.159 --> 01:49:58.479 Back he picked Up Roy royce laying on the, Mat 1981 01:49:58.560 --> 01:50:01.119 he picked him, up he put him in back into 1982 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:04.159 the bare hud went and the boy put that vice 1983 01:50:04.239 --> 01:50:08.239 grip on him and uh and he started squeezing him. Again, 1984 01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:11.399 well the referee tried to stop him with spears and 1985 01:50:11.479 --> 01:50:13.920 nay on the ref from. Behind he knocked him down 1986 01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.720 and kicked him till he went out onto the. Floor and, 1987 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:19.319 uh and then he just went right in The hawk's 1988 01:50:19.399 --> 01:50:22.880 face and squeezing. Harder he was really he was really 1989 01:50:23.079 --> 01:50:26.600 really pushing, it and the studio crowd was, screaming man 1990 01:50:26.800 --> 01:50:29.960 for somebody to come in and Help. Roy. Uh, So 1991 01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:33.720 roy's head at this point was hanging over The hawk's. Shoulder, 1992 01:50:33.840 --> 01:50:36.800 man his arms were dangling down by his. Side he 1993 01:50:36.960 --> 01:50:37.880 was basically out of. 1994 01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:38.239 Him he was. 1995 01:50:38.359 --> 01:50:41.640 Unconscious and then all of a, sudden, man blood started 1996 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:45.159 streaming From boy's mouth and it ran down The hulk's. 1997 01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:48.560 BACK tv got a close up of it with blood 1998 01:50:48.600 --> 01:50:50.960 coming out of his mouth and was running down The 1999 01:50:51.039 --> 01:50:54.920 hawk's back and instead of that crowd they were going crazy, 2000 01:50:55.039 --> 01:50:59.279 booing and they went dead. Silent and uh it was 2001 01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:02.880 a sign, man and that basically things had gone too. Far, 2002 01:51:03.199 --> 01:51:08.159 yeah yeah maybe, so So i'm. There you, Know roy's my. 2003 01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:11.000 Cousin SO i was the first guy to hit the, 2004 01:51:11.119 --> 01:51:14.840 ring AND i hadn't been seen In dothan for almost 2005 01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:18.680 six weeks since the world title defense Against Harley, race 2006 01:51:18.720 --> 01:51:22.199 which is about six weeks. Earlier nobody KNEW i was, 2007 01:51:22.319 --> 01:51:25.119 there you, know and the studio. Exploded as soon AS 2008 01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:27.920 i could hit the, Ring holk, Drop roy and Hen 2009 01:51:28.039 --> 01:51:31.159 spears headed for the dressing. Room they didn't make any 2010 01:51:31.199 --> 01:51:35.279 attempt to do anything to, me but you, know it 2011 01:51:35.439 --> 01:51:38.880 was it. Was it was pretty pretty heavy duty deal. 2012 01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:42.000 Heavy, duty. INDEED i mean you got the top baby 2013 01:51:42.079 --> 01:51:45.720 face run to Save hulk and to Save roy From. 2014 01:51:45.800 --> 01:51:47.880 Hulk and the way they used to do it was 2015 01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.840 they grabbed a, syringe drew some blood from the, arm 2016 01:51:51.239 --> 01:51:53.279 put it into a condom so you could bite down 2017 01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:56.079 on it When hulk put, you so that you could 2018 01:51:56.079 --> 01:51:59.640 start running real. Blood not that's so, gross that's what he. 2019 01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:02.880 Said that is. VILE i, Mean i've heard of the. 2020 01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:05.640 Condom i've never heard of drawing the blood from someone's actual. 2021 01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:10.319 Veins that's so fucking beyond. Them what we're gonna. Do 2022 01:52:10.399 --> 01:52:12.680 we're gonna we're gonna draw blood from this guy over. 2023 01:52:12.680 --> 01:52:14.079 Here we're gonna put in the, Cold we're gonna put 2024 01:52:14.119 --> 01:52:15.920 in your. MOUTH i guess this is pre, ades, huh 2025 01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:17.399 like holy? 2026 01:52:17.560 --> 01:52:18.439 Ship, YES. 2027 01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:21.560 I want you to bathe in the two for that. 2028 01:52:21.680 --> 01:52:25.960 Matter we're gonna we're gonna draw a, bath and he 2029 01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:30.279 would blood draw, blood, bath draw your, blood draw some, 2030 01:52:30.359 --> 01:52:34.159 money draw, bath draw a. House instead of taking months 2031 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:36.800 to Bill halt to draw, money they had to do this. 2032 01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:39.079 Quickly so they're putting him in there with the cousin 2033 01:52:39.119 --> 01:52:41.800 Of Ron, fuller bear hugging him till he's, bloody And 2034 01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:44.199 Ron fuller, HIMSELF i mean this is A it's, like you, 2035 01:52:44.239 --> 01:52:46.359 Know i'm not gonna Say Ron fuller was the biggest 2036 01:52:46.359 --> 01:52:48.800 stupor star in the, world but like for like it's 2037 01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:50.840 kind of Like Bruno San martino running in to, say, 2038 01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:54.319 HEY i mean, Right i'm gonna say this is this 2039 01:52:54.600 --> 01:52:57.399 is uh, uh you, know he's the big star of 2040 01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:00.640 the of the of the of the. Territory so it's 2041 01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:02.640 a big. Deal and as he, mentioned he was coming 2042 01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:06.720 Off Ron fuller was a, legit you, know sellout world 2043 01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:09.399 title match Against Harley. Race of course was nwable to 2044 01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:12.560 do you a, champion so he was being h the 2045 01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:14.359 last time they had Seen Ron, fuller he was going 2046 01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:16.560 for the glory Of, alabama no question about. It so 2047 01:53:16.640 --> 01:53:19.359 he is he is that. Guy and then the next, 2048 01:53:19.399 --> 01:53:23.119 Match terry has is again with the Aforementioned Herb, calvert 2049 01:53:23.359 --> 01:53:26.079 the The shooter and the veteran of the of the. 2050 01:53:26.479 --> 01:53:29.039 Circuit and here is the description how that went. 2051 01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:31.239 Down. Lewis he later told me that when The hook 2052 01:53:31.319 --> 01:53:34.359 And Billy spears went to the, ring he, said didn't 2053 01:53:34.439 --> 01:53:36.960 just happen To, mobile but it happened in every city 2054 01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:40.119 ron that had seen THIS, tv he, said if they 2055 01:53:40.239 --> 01:53:43.039 saw THE, tv he, said when they went to the, 2056 01:53:43.199 --> 01:53:47.000 ring he, said the crowds went. Crazy, man they'd seen 2057 01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:49.640 them standing in booing. Them he. Said they heat was 2058 01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:55.840 unbelievable from that one television. Experience and he also said 2059 01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:59.439 when they left the ring In mobile After, SPEARS i 2060 01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:03.279 got in the match and hog Beat Curb calvert with 2061 01:54:03.479 --> 01:54:05.920 his bear hood again like he had done the week. 2062 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:09.159 Before H louis said that all the policemen in the 2063 01:54:09.199 --> 01:54:12.239 building had to escort him back to the dressing, room 2064 01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:15.840 even though it was just the third match on the 2065 01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:18.560 card and it was only the second time The hulk 2066 01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:21.960 had been in that. Building, no so that kind of 2067 01:54:22.039 --> 01:54:26.119 heat that fast was extremely. Rare man for a third 2068 01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:29.560 match on a six match, card for fans to react that, 2069 01:54:29.720 --> 01:54:33.279 way maybe That sterling golden name was going to come. 2070 01:54:33.359 --> 01:54:36.640 True, yeah he'd be, golden all, Right, yeah you're damn. Right, 2071 01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:39.680 YEAH i mean To Bloody Royley welch like. That the 2072 01:54:39.760 --> 01:54:44.079 next time he comes to the, arena they're they're. Rioting turn's. 2073 01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:48.199 Crazy they want his fucking. Scalp, tremendous. Tremendous that's how 2074 01:54:48.239 --> 01:54:50.399 you do. Business that's how you, say all, right we're 2075 01:54:50.439 --> 01:54:52.960 not gonna pussy foot around. Here this guy could be. 2076 01:54:53.079 --> 01:54:54.600 It let's give it our all and see if it, 2077 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:57.479 works instead of sitting around try to figure out reasons 2078 01:54:57.560 --> 01:54:59.840 not to, try which is precisely what happened In. FLORIDA 2079 01:55:00.079 --> 01:55:02.479 i have. Decided and so, yeah the next time he 2080 01:55:02.479 --> 01:55:05.479 gets out, there the heat is. Undeniable this guy's catching 2081 01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:08.680 on as somebody that the fans are going to really 2082 01:55:08.760 --> 01:55:10.960 want to see get his and so now we're starting 2083 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:14.199 to get some. Magic now it's starting to come. Together Come, 2084 01:55:14.439 --> 01:55:17.399 April halt's moving up the card And Ron fuller himself 2085 01:55:17.479 --> 01:55:20.439 is going to be Facing hulk for the first. Time and, 2086 01:55:20.520 --> 01:55:22.960 again his legacy in the area goes back so, Far 2087 01:55:23.359 --> 01:55:26.000 Gulf coast, area back to the, fifties The welch, family 2088 01:55:26.600 --> 01:55:30.520 and he went onto the, set Did Ron, fuller and 2089 01:55:30.600 --> 01:55:33.479 he's talking With Charlie platt about representing the family against 2090 01:55:33.479 --> 01:55:35.239 this hulk because they watched the tape of his, Cousin 2091 01:55:35.359 --> 01:55:38.199 Royley welch gets squeezed to death and he was in 2092 01:55:38.279 --> 01:55:44.920 tears practically witnessing this scene and they didn't they actually 2093 01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:48.560 didn't Say, interestingly he makes this. Point Royley welch was 2094 01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:51.600 presented as like a, friend somebody That Ron fuller, respected 2095 01:55:51.680 --> 01:55:54.720 But Ron fuller didn't use his real last, Name welch 2096 01:55:54.960 --> 01:55:57.279 On Gulf coast tell, right so they did not acknowledge 2097 01:55:57.279 --> 01:55:59.359 that they were family at this point in. Time it's so. Weird, 2098 01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:03.199 yeah was kind of. Weird but the sensitivity was if 2099 01:56:03.239 --> 01:56:05.399 everyone knew that his name Was Roten, welch they would, 2100 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:08.720 know based on government, records that he was the owner 2101 01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:10.680 of the, territory and that was a big no. No 2102 01:56:10.960 --> 01:56:12.920 if you're gonna be the big, babyface you did not 2103 01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:15.000 want the fans to know that you actually owned and 2104 01:56:15.079 --> 01:56:18.800 operated the whole thing and were you, know puppeteering. Everything 2105 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:21.319 you didn't want that you, Want, yeah because the babyface 2106 01:56:21.359 --> 01:56:23.960 has to be someone who overcomes, circumstances you, know someone 2107 01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:27.199 who has to lobby and fight for opportunity and prove, 2108 01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:29.720 himself not someone who can hand himself opportunity because he 2109 01:56:29.800 --> 01:56:33.319 runs the. Organization so that was always always a problem 2110 01:56:33.520 --> 01:56:36.159 when you had wrestlers owning the. Territories as they had to, 2111 01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:39.199 go they had to put the promotion in somebody else's 2112 01:56:39.279 --> 01:56:42.359 name often is often how it, worked so that nobody 2113 01:56:42.399 --> 01:56:45.760 would know that they actually owned the whole. Thing and 2114 01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:48.399 you certainly can't go on television and, say that's the 2115 01:56:48.479 --> 01:56:51.600 guy with the last Name welch is my family. Member all. 2116 01:56:51.640 --> 01:56:56.319 Right so Here's Ron stud talking about about the Fallow 2117 01:56:58.399 --> 01:57:02.560 ron The Tennessee Stud. Fuller yes it's, Confused, Yes tennessee. 2118 01:57:02.560 --> 01:57:04.720 Stutters His Midnight rider is like the masked version of, 2119 01:57:04.720 --> 01:57:08.199 them oh for. Sure and here he was talking about 2120 01:57:08.199 --> 01:57:09.720 all the fallout from The Roy welch thing and how 2121 01:57:09.760 --> 01:57:12.000 he addressed it on television and got the. Fans really 2122 01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:14.800 is how you hook people in those. Days man invested 2123 01:57:15.079 --> 01:57:17.319 in this emotional story of how he's got to avenge 2124 01:57:17.359 --> 01:57:18.600 what happened To Roy. 2125 01:57:18.720 --> 01:57:21.159 Lee man's got a big pop from the. Crowd man 2126 01:57:21.880 --> 01:57:25.199 before it even, STARTED i hadn't wrestled on THE tv 2127 01:57:25.399 --> 01:57:28.520 there in, months AND i was certainly not expected to 2128 01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:31.439 be in the. Ring so for the first time ever 2129 01:57:31.640 --> 01:57:34.359 on the upcoming, cards. TOO i was in the main 2130 01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:37.600 event and all three of those major cities against The, 2131 01:57:37.680 --> 01:57:40.720 hope and there wasn't much time left in the show 2132 01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:42.920 at this, point AND i was trying to get a 2133 01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:46.319 quick victory before the show. Ended AND i dropped kicked 2134 01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:48.720 The guide AND i jerked him up and threw him 2135 01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:51.079 over my, shoulder ran across the ring and gave him 2136 01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:54.279 a power, slam and referee was about to start to 2137 01:57:54.359 --> 01:57:56.640 count him, out and all of a, sudden here comes 2138 01:57:56.680 --> 01:57:59.479 To Hopkins pears into the. Ring Now i'm on the 2139 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:02.239 top of the. GUY i don't even see him until 2140 01:58:02.279 --> 01:58:06.800 they're in the, ring and so the studio, exploded and you, 2141 01:58:06.840 --> 01:58:09.000 Know huk stamped me in the. Back he picked me 2142 01:58:09.119 --> 01:58:11.640 up and he got me in a full, nelson And 2143 01:58:11.800 --> 01:58:14.680 Billy spears took a wild swing at my head AND 2144 01:58:14.800 --> 01:58:18.399 i bent forward and he hit The huk, Instead so 2145 01:58:19.279 --> 01:58:23.119 So hunk went. Down he wasn't Expecting spears to hit. 2146 01:58:23.239 --> 01:58:26.319 Him and THEN i got my hands around spears, throat 2147 01:58:26.840 --> 01:58:29.760 and all of a, sudden The, gladiator now another guy 2148 01:58:29.920 --> 01:58:33.000 comes into the, ring and SO i Dropped. SPEARS i 2149 01:58:33.079 --> 01:58:35.920 see the gladiator coming AND i nail him AND i 2150 01:58:36.039 --> 01:58:39.319 go down on him, Man i'm trying to put his lights. 2151 01:58:39.359 --> 01:58:41.760 OUT i was getting him with some good shots and, 2152 01:58:42.439 --> 01:58:44.760 down you, KNOW i got two guys behind my. BACK 2153 01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:47.760 i don't see Either hok or the other Or, spears 2154 01:58:47.800 --> 01:58:49.760 And hope kicks me in the back and he picked 2155 01:58:49.800 --> 01:58:52.159 me up and he put me in his bare. Hut 2156 01:58:52.279 --> 01:58:56.760 man studio was going wild at this, point and thene 2157 01:58:56.840 --> 01:58:59.319 of all people that came into the ring Was. Lester 2158 01:59:00.319 --> 01:59:03.039 and you, know when he hit the, ring he went 2159 01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:04.920 straight to The hulk and he hit him in the 2160 01:59:05.039 --> 01:59:07.960 back and the hug dropped me and he turned around 2161 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:11.199 and he Grabbed lester in the bare. Hug so then 2162 01:59:11.279 --> 01:59:14.479 The gladiator And, spears, uh they both got. 2163 01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:15.000 Me you. 2164 01:59:15.119 --> 01:59:20.199 Know you know the cook was. Strong, wow he's unbelievably, 2165 01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:23.720 Strong so you know when he dropped, me they had 2166 01:59:23.800 --> 01:59:26.039 plenty times then to start putting the boots on. Me 2167 01:59:26.960 --> 01:59:30.399 lester was still in the bear hug from the, hug 2168 01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:34.279 and for the second time in two, weeks, man somebody 2169 01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:37.479 was bleeding from the mouth and there was another welch, 2170 01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:40.600 wow and the blood started running From lester's mouth and 2171 01:59:40.720 --> 01:59:44.199 it ran down The huk's. Back SO i kind of 2172 01:59:44.239 --> 01:59:46.359 felt my weight to my feet and the spears and. 2173 01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:50.800 Gladiator they took off quick as they, could Nailed hulk 2174 01:59:50.880 --> 01:59:52.840 in the. Back he Dropped lester and he headed for 2175 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:56.159 the dressing. Room AND i had just Sent leicester upright 2176 01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:58.960 because he was starting to Choke man to keep him from. 2177 01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:02.239 Choking bud was still running out of his. Mouth The 2178 02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:07.479 Novelle Riggy, Fields Terry, Lakeam Herb, calvert all those guys 2179 02:00:07.600 --> 02:00:09.720 came to ring to kind of help me get lesser 2180 02:00:09.800 --> 02:00:10.000 out of. 2181 02:00:10.039 --> 02:00:14.159 Her So hulk is now bear hugged the grand old 2182 02:00:14.239 --> 02:00:16.680 man of the. Territory, okay this would be like Putting 2183 02:00:16.760 --> 02:00:19.239 jess McMahon in the bear hug in the. Garden it's 2184 02:00:19.279 --> 02:00:22.520 just WHAT i don't. Understand what do you THINK i, 2185 02:00:22.600 --> 02:00:24.560 mean as long as they're pushing them. Hard oh my, 2186 02:00:24.640 --> 02:00:27.159 god you, know it's just a it's a little you, 2187 02:00:27.199 --> 02:00:31.159 know Fucking jabron coming, in going all the way right, 2188 02:00:31.239 --> 02:00:33.439 away And Ron fuller is going to bring it home 2189 02:00:33.479 --> 02:00:35.560 on the. Stick he walks over To Charlie platt's area 2190 02:00:35.640 --> 02:00:35.800 for the. 2191 02:00:35.840 --> 02:00:38.760 PROMO i said With charlie the time was running out 2192 02:00:38.840 --> 02:00:41.920 on the show AND i wanted to say something about all, 2193 02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:45.039 this SO i verbally tore himTo spears and his, men 2194 02:00:45.600 --> 02:00:48.239 especially The, Hulk and uh you, KNOW i, said you, 2195 02:00:48.319 --> 02:00:50.199 know this big son of a, GUN i, said he's 2196 02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:53.640 been running a rough shot over wrestler's ear ever since he. 2197 02:00:53.760 --> 02:00:56.479 Came and, uh you, KNOW i said that, now, man 2198 02:00:56.880 --> 02:00:59.600 he's going to be for the first, time looking eye to, 2199 02:00:59.760 --> 02:01:03.760 eye had his opponent Because i'm his, Size i'm his, 2200 02:01:03.960 --> 02:01:07.279 height And i'm down there his, size and you, know 2201 02:01:07.760 --> 02:01:10.760 AND i, said he may be an opponent that's famous 2202 02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:13.920 for squeezing the blood out of wrestler's But i'm famous 2203 02:01:14.000 --> 02:01:17.800 for breaking their. Legs so the, studio you, know they 2204 02:01:17.880 --> 02:01:21.439 had stopped screaming it's a whole conspirasht the, ring and 2205 02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:24.880 by this point they were louder than. Ever. Man so 2206 02:01:25.079 --> 02:01:29.079 the show closed out with me screaming To charlie the 2207 02:01:29.399 --> 02:01:32.840 spears of the whole you better get you some crutches 2208 02:01:33.079 --> 02:01:34.159 because he's going to need. 2209 02:01:34.239 --> 02:01:36.800 Them why CAN'T i hear the? Promo why CAN'T i 2210 02:01:36.800 --> 02:01:40.560 see the? Promo this Is Ron fuller Making hulkogan a 2211 02:01:40.640 --> 02:01:45.159 superstar on traditional territorial wrestling, television AND i can't hear 2212 02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:47.840 it and feel it in experience because it didn't. Happen fucking, 2213 02:01:47.920 --> 02:01:51.159 hell it didn't. Happen what do you mean it didn't? Happen, 2214 02:01:51.920 --> 02:01:54.840 well how do we want? Happen we have to trust 2215 02:01:54.880 --> 02:02:03.479 this guy's fucking. Stories who says he's? Reliable, hm you 2216 02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:05.439 know we're taking this guy for his. WORD i don't 2217 02:02:05.439 --> 02:02:09.359 know his. WORD i don't know who he. Is as 2218 02:02:09.399 --> 02:02:11.640 far AS i, know Hul cogan was created By vin 2219 02:02:11.720 --> 02:02:15.000 Sick man and they. Ain't no one else can prove 2220 02:02:15.039 --> 02:02:22.520 otherwise each. Boss so, There Ron fuller Ship, WOW i said. 2221 02:02:22.560 --> 02:02:24.439 It he went ahead and said. It folks on the 2222 02:02:24.439 --> 02:02:34.560 Complete Hulk Hogan Ron fuller Ship wow mobile out with the. 2223 02:02:34.640 --> 02:02:38.279 Files show me the fucking. Files, okay well release the, 2224 02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:44.119 release release The alabama. Files you will release THE bam 2225 02:02:44.439 --> 02:02:47.960 release THE bama. Files you. Won't that's. Right i'm, On? 2226 02:02:48.079 --> 02:02:53.439 Ron where are the? Tapes don't? Exist never, Happened? Ron, 2227 02:02:53.520 --> 02:02:54.279 never it's not Even. 2228 02:02:54.359 --> 02:02:55.079 Ron how do we know? 2229 02:02:55.199 --> 02:02:57.039 That how do we know It's Ron? Fuller? Oh hulk 2230 02:02:57.119 --> 02:02:58.760 never talked about any of this. Stuff you find me 2231 02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:02.279 one instance Where hulks talking about exactly putting the squeeze 2232 02:03:02.279 --> 02:03:05.399 on On Lester welch to get over On alabama television 2233 02:03:06.760 --> 02:03:09.760 when talking about using the bear HUG i, said we, 2234 02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:15.239 start why should He after that fiery. Promo five nights, 2235 02:03:15.319 --> 02:03:18.520 Later Mobile, alabama It's Ron fuller versus The, hulk and my, 2236 02:03:18.640 --> 02:03:21.600 god does he nail. It, finally The hulk's going to 2237 02:03:21.640 --> 02:03:25.159 face someone he sees eye to eyeways leveraging the, height 2238 02:03:25.479 --> 02:03:28.079 which is. Key you're bringing a big guy like, That 2239 02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:29.960 the key is to find someone else big to oppose. 2240 02:03:30.039 --> 02:03:32.399 Him that's who the money. Is and now we have, 2241 02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:34.439 it and we have the first glimpse of what happens 2242 02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:36.720 when a giant Faces. Hulk people want to see. It 2243 02:03:38.239 --> 02:03:41.960 and only his fourth match Run fuller faces The. 2244 02:03:42.039 --> 02:03:45.760 Hulk after we're, watching after the fans And mobile watching 2245 02:03:45.880 --> 02:03:51.039 THAT tv, Show That mobile crowd was. Electric, wow and 2246 02:03:51.119 --> 02:03:55.000 didn't didn't they? Did they were already fired up before 2247 02:03:55.039 --> 02:03:57.840 they rang the bell for the. Match so THEN I 2248 02:03:57.880 --> 02:04:02.000 hope and the. Spears they had tremendous. Heat, man after 2249 02:04:02.119 --> 02:04:04.439 Both lester And roy had been bleeding from the mouth 2250 02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:08.319 two straight TVs in a, row this match was so, Easy. 2251 02:04:08.680 --> 02:04:11.720 Gosh the crowd was on its feet for every bit of. 2252 02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:15.000 It and it didn't last long BEFORE i got my 2253 02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:18.720 toe hold on, Him man on The, hulk and well 2254 02:04:18.800 --> 02:04:22.720 the roof came off the Old expo hall and spears 2255 02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:26.960 charged man into the ring too intentionally get his man, 2256 02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:30.079 disqualified but he also wanted to get me off his 2257 02:04:30.239 --> 02:04:32.920 leg BEFORE i could do some real damage to. Him 2258 02:04:33.840 --> 02:04:38.039 SO i got back up and AND i Backed billy 2259 02:04:38.239 --> 02:04:41.239 into a corner AND i started to work on his. Butt, 2260 02:04:41.359 --> 02:04:44.800 man and here comes the gladiator kind of like ON. 2261 02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:47.920 TV i don't know where, again and then the og 2262 02:04:48.199 --> 02:04:52.439 nails me from behind and they all three started working on, 2263 02:04:52.560 --> 02:04:57.600 me so as mobile crowds. Did man when something like this, 2264 02:04:57.800 --> 02:05:01.760 happened all of a, sudden the sitting in their, seats 2265 02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:04.640 and they seemed, like all of a, sudden you couldn't 2266 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:07.319 step out of the. Ring the whole crowd came to 2267 02:05:07.439 --> 02:05:12.760 the ring AND uh AND i and then thank, GOODNESS 2268 02:05:13.279 --> 02:05:16.359 i don't know, where here Comes Roy. LEE. Uh And 2269 02:05:16.560 --> 02:05:18.880 Roy lee had been in the dressing room all, night 2270 02:05:19.039 --> 02:05:21.960 nobody was knew he was even in the. Building and 2271 02:05:22.319 --> 02:05:24.520 while when he got in the ring and he started 2272 02:05:24.920 --> 02:05:27.279 to help me out with his total mayhem at that, 2273 02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:30.439 point SO i fought my way up with the roy 2274 02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:33.399 AND uh and the. Heels all three of those guys 2275 02:05:33.520 --> 02:05:37.319 hit the. FLOOR uh and the boy the police were so. 2276 02:05:37.560 --> 02:05:40.640 Good they were so accustomed to what the problems we 2277 02:05:40.760 --> 02:05:43.439 had In mobile that as soon as these guys hit the, 2278 02:05:43.479 --> 02:05:46.960 floor they surrounded them and they fought their way as 2279 02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:48.439 usual back to the dressing. 2280 02:05:48.520 --> 02:05:54.319 Room, wow absolute. Mayhem the people want to See hulk 2281 02:05:54.399 --> 02:05:57.399 get his And Billy spears get his five weeks in 2282 02:05:57.439 --> 02:06:00.760 a Row ron stud works With Hulk. Helgen they needed 2283 02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:03.119 to make the, guy that's the. Thing they didn't have a, 2284 02:06:03.239 --> 02:06:04.920 choice Right AND i. 2285 02:06:05.039 --> 02:06:08.279 Was, wrestling obviously against The hulk and just about every 2286 02:06:08.359 --> 02:06:11.279 one of these five weeks For, cards about five weeks 2287 02:06:11.319 --> 02:06:14.199 in a row and spending almost all of my time 2288 02:06:14.319 --> 02:06:18.199 down there in The Gulf Coast territory trying to basically 2289 02:06:18.960 --> 02:06:23.039 help The hulk improve as a wrestler as fast as 2290 02:06:23.159 --> 02:06:27.359 possible because he was getting over so. Good we were 2291 02:06:27.399 --> 02:06:29.880 going to push him as much as we, could and 2292 02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:33.680 obviously if he got over, good that's going to help 2293 02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:37.039 the territory to start growing. Again you, know we were 2294 02:06:37.159 --> 02:06:39.520 kind of down. Here we lost all those guys To, 2295 02:06:39.640 --> 02:06:45.600 memphis and The hulk single handedly with me and some 2296 02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:47.840 really good workers are going to be able to try 2297 02:06:47.880 --> 02:06:51.079 to bring this. Back in all of our early, matches 2298 02:06:51.279 --> 02:06:54.600 meaning the ONES i had against. HIM i led. HIM 2299 02:06:55.159 --> 02:06:59.159 i called the. SPOTS i led the matches like the heel. 2300 02:06:59.199 --> 02:07:02.079 Would but even THOUGH i was the baby, face AND 2301 02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:06.840 i called the spots to make him look good WHENEVER i, 2302 02:07:06.960 --> 02:07:10.920 could to give him an idea and uh and basically 2303 02:07:11.039 --> 02:07:13.920 some on the job training about what to, do how to, 2304 02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:16.920 do how to do it AND u and when to do, 2305 02:07:17.039 --> 02:07:19.800 it which is even maybe more important than how to do. 2306 02:07:19.960 --> 02:07:23.600 It so the ind the ring training was followed up 2307 02:07:23.720 --> 02:07:26.960 basically every night in the dressing. Room after the, match 2308 02:07:27.920 --> 02:07:29.920 we sat, down the two of, us and we had 2309 02:07:29.960 --> 02:07:37.439 these long sessions of continued repetition about you, know this and, that, 2310 02:07:38.199 --> 02:07:41.600 uh the critiquing of the. Match we talked about you, 2311 02:07:41.680 --> 02:07:46.439 know we talked about making sure that the mistakes that 2312 02:07:46.560 --> 02:07:50.720 he made were discussed and, uh and that he learned 2313 02:07:50.760 --> 02:07:53.000 how to cure, them what to do to cure, them 2314 02:07:53.560 --> 02:07:57.039 and along with, that what could we have done better 2315 02:07:57.199 --> 02:07:58.279 to have an even better? 2316 02:07:58.399 --> 02:07:58.640 Match? 2317 02:07:59.439 --> 02:08:01.960 Uh and and at this point in his, CAREER i 2318 02:08:02.159 --> 02:08:05.399 Found terry to be a very good student of the. 2319 02:08:05.439 --> 02:08:10.119 SPORT i, MEAN, uh had a great. Attitude and after he, 2320 02:08:10.279 --> 02:08:13.960 left you, know, uh as time went, BY i, mean 2321 02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:16.880 after he moved on to other territories and later on 2322 02:08:17.119 --> 02:08:20.800 when he went to w W f and, uh you 2323 02:08:20.880 --> 02:08:25.399 know the other, territories big Territorys. Uh he was. Smart 2324 02:08:25.640 --> 02:08:29.000 he created a lot of unique ways to get himself. 2325 02:08:29.079 --> 02:08:30.479 Over yeah he. 2326 02:08:30.520 --> 02:08:35.319 DID MM i CAN i can't deal with. This it's 2327 02:08:36.199 --> 02:08:45.239 it really. Is it's IT'S i don't know how to describe. 2328 02:08:45.279 --> 02:08:50.920 IT i didn't have room in my head for this preamble. Career, no, no, 2329 02:08:51.680 --> 02:08:55.199 no he Does rocky And vern runs with. It that's. Right, 2330 02:08:56.119 --> 02:09:01.359 no a whole fucking, career walks them through a series 2331 02:09:01.399 --> 02:09:04.000 of matches and sits down with it afterwards and breaks 2332 02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:06.159 down where he can improve and realizes that guy actually 2333 02:09:06.239 --> 02:09:08.399 has quite a bit of spark and an understanding of 2334 02:09:08.680 --> 02:09:10.720 innateally how to get himself over and what he brings 2335 02:09:10.760 --> 02:09:15.039 to the. Table, buller what it brings it out of? 2336 02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:18.640 Him who's? Talking? Who we're about to find? Out you're 2337 02:09:18.840 --> 02:09:20.720 talking to? You you're gonna be talking To Charlie. Platt 2338 02:09:20.760 --> 02:09:23.159 on the set In, dothan they're watching the match Back 2339 02:09:23.279 --> 02:09:26.800 Ron fuller versus The, hulk and they show The hulk 2340 02:09:26.840 --> 02:09:29.199 And Billy spears and The gladiators all Jumping Ron fuller 2341 02:09:29.279 --> 02:09:31.800 And Roy welch makes the save and there's a tag 2342 02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:35.199 Against hulkin the gladiator managed By, spears And platt Says 2343 02:09:35.600 --> 02:09:37.880 we're never going to show that footage again of Poor 2344 02:09:38.000 --> 02:09:41.319 Lester welch bleeding from the mouth and the clutches Of 2345 02:09:41.640 --> 02:09:44.880 Terry Boulders Bear huck And spears on the plat set 2346 02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:46.720 With hulk behind. Him you got to picture, THIS i, 2347 02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:48.720 mean this is like every giant, ever. Right you got 2348 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:50.840 the manager in the foreground screaming into the, mic and 2349 02:09:50.920 --> 02:09:53.920 behind him The hulk is so big and wide that 2350 02:09:54.000 --> 02:09:58.640 he almost Subsumes Billy spears an entire profile behind, him glide, wide, 2351 02:09:58.680 --> 02:10:00.760 glide like he's blocking the, sun you, know like he's 2352 02:10:00.800 --> 02:10:04.640 blocking the. Sun and Again Billy spears refers To hulk 2353 02:10:04.760 --> 02:10:08.880 His hulk as future NW wa. Champion, yes, yes And 2354 02:10:08.960 --> 02:10:11.239 Billy spears boss has added two new guys to his. 2355 02:10:11.319 --> 02:10:17.119 Stable welcome to the. Territory The samoans unfucking. Believable only 2356 02:10:17.159 --> 02:10:19.680 did they work the road. Together hulk was In billy 2357 02:10:19.720 --> 02:10:25.359 Spears heel stable with The samoans in nineteen seventy nine Versus, 2358 02:10:25.359 --> 02:10:29.239 smoans as mentioned living In. Pensacola later, on there's a 2359 02:10:29.279 --> 02:10:31.520 double as qualification as The hul team With gladiator And 2360 02:10:31.560 --> 02:10:35.880 Billy spears and thought that the dressing room Against welch 2361 02:10:36.359 --> 02:10:41.680 And Roy Ron fuller And Royy. Welch at this, Point 2362 02:10:41.760 --> 02:10:43.760 hulk was all wrestling fans in that part of the 2363 02:10:43.800 --> 02:10:46.840 country talked. About according To Ron, fuller all they talked 2364 02:10:46.840 --> 02:10:50.119 about was The, hulk and they didn't, know they didn't 2365 02:10:50.119 --> 02:10:53.199 know what they were. Watching can you imagine going to 2366 02:10:53.279 --> 02:10:55.039 the building and there's all this buzz in just your 2367 02:10:55.119 --> 02:10:59.119 little area about This hulk Guy, no and it's, like, 2368 02:11:00.199 --> 02:11:04.079 yeh my, god it's like six years before everyone in 2369 02:11:04.159 --> 02:11:07.680 the country is. Talking it's like that That. Hulk can 2370 02:11:08.079 --> 02:11:10.600 imagine being one of those fans from those three cities 2371 02:11:11.199 --> 02:11:14.119 there are. There there's the only a handful that knew him. 2372 02:11:14.840 --> 02:11:18.359 Before and, AGAIN i want TO i want to talk 2373 02:11:18.399 --> 02:11:22.800 to them if they're still. Alive must. Know maybe the 2374 02:11:22.880 --> 02:11:24.720 best we can do is if you go back into 2375 02:11:24.720 --> 02:11:30.079 Your alabama, Folder, boss to take a good look at 2376 02:11:30.199 --> 02:11:33.680 the nineteen seventy nine dash oh, five dash oh. Four 2377 02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:37.119 so these are a couple OF us screen grabs From 2378 02:11:37.159 --> 02:11:39.960 facebook courtesy of the home he, met where people From 2379 02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:44.960 alabama were commenting on threads About hulk's days As, Wow 2380 02:11:45.199 --> 02:11:47.560 harry The Hulk boulder in that part of the. Country 2381 02:11:49.239 --> 02:11:52.960 they're they're an article written About hogan's beginnings In dothan 2382 02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:56.159 after his, passing and, yeah here are fans saying things 2383 02:11:56.239 --> 02:11:58.479 LIKE i believe he. WAS i believe he was tearing 2384 02:11:58.520 --> 02:12:01.520 A Hulk boulder when he wrestled here in Oath, Well. 2385 02:12:01.640 --> 02:12:04.000 DAVY i could be, wrong BUT i think he was 2386 02:12:04.159 --> 02:12:10.159 Just Terry boulder back. Then now he was he, WAS 2387 02:12:10.319 --> 02:12:14.359 i ref he, WAS i. REF i don't know his 2388 02:12:14.520 --> 02:12:18.079 first match was In. Dothan, oh you, know, well this 2389 02:12:18.479 --> 02:12:21.399 is really. Cool do you happen to remember anyone he 2390 02:12:21.520 --> 02:12:24.800 might have wrestled during that time In dothan beside his 2391 02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:28.039 famous matches With andre Against andre And? Harley thanks so. 2392 02:12:28.319 --> 02:12:33.079 MUCH i Remembered terry The Hawk boulder when from him 2393 02:12:33.119 --> 02:12:37.039 wrestling In Dothan Farm center and In New. Brockton he 2394 02:12:37.159 --> 02:12:40.079 actually asked me, out but of COURSE i decline SINCE 2395 02:12:40.119 --> 02:12:45.439 i was already. Married Bro one, date, dude, brother you 2396 02:12:45.520 --> 02:12:48.079 want to go to? Date, DUDE i live in a. Van, 2397 02:12:48.239 --> 02:12:51.479 dude want to come see my? VAN i live ON 2398 02:12:51.640 --> 02:12:56.439 i live in a mobile. Van, sorry, MEN i live 2399 02:12:56.600 --> 02:13:03.960 in a van in MOBILE i canna drive around beach to. Beach, 2400 02:13:04.319 --> 02:13:08.119 well you know your house stationary. Brother you, Know hope was. 2401 02:13:08.159 --> 02:13:12.079 Poor but you have to say technically when he when 2402 02:13:12.079 --> 02:13:13.920 he stayed With David, schultz he was the first guy 2403 02:13:13.960 --> 02:13:19.199 to have a mobile phone in the. Business good. Point so, 2404 02:13:19.359 --> 02:13:21.760 yeah of course he's asking women out in the. Area 2405 02:13:22.319 --> 02:13:27.439 of course he Is Bill Bill cappel that he wished Back, 2406 02:13:27.640 --> 02:13:31.399 Alabama Gallon. Satla you know you know he damn well 2407 02:13:31.479 --> 02:13:33.840 did he want instead of an L a? Girl he 2408 02:13:33.920 --> 02:13:37.159 wanted an A l. Girl now that's a Cool, now 2409 02:13:37.239 --> 02:13:39.279 that is a cool. Story do you remember anyone Met 2410 02:13:39.359 --> 02:13:42.079 terry The Huk Boulder Wrestling dothan Or New. Brock's guy's 2411 02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:45.680 fucking going crazy for this. Ship he was somebody to 2412 02:13:45.760 --> 02:13:50.600 turn this guy into the. Studcast stat's like he won't get. Me, 2413 02:13:50.720 --> 02:13:53.640 GODDAMN i didn't know who he. Wrestled sounds like sounds 2414 02:13:53.680 --> 02:13:56.359 like us cannone tell me who he? 2415 02:13:56.399 --> 02:13:58.159 Wrestled And New, brockton. 2416 02:13:58.920 --> 02:14:01.359 Goddamn and enough of what we shout outside of The 2417 02:14:01.399 --> 02:14:06.079 dothan studio into any open window we can. Find and 2418 02:14:06.199 --> 02:14:08.760 his autobiography he, states and not, QUOTE i wrested all 2419 02:14:08.800 --> 02:14:11.239 over the world And the one place that always weirded 2420 02:14:11.319 --> 02:14:14.319 me out was doath In. ALABAMA i, mean he's not. 2421 02:14:14.439 --> 02:14:19.079 Wrong oh, fuck when your locals don't take, offense that's 2422 02:14:19.399 --> 02:14:26.119 exactly exactly. Hyah he did Rastionlate Houston County Farm center washed. 2423 02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:31.720 Him hold, On oh My, god washed. Him Hold andrew 2424 02:14:31.800 --> 02:14:34.720 The giant enter up off the. Mat he fucking, right 2425 02:14:34.800 --> 02:14:39.000 the sixty Pound andrew The giant watched. Him Hold andrew 2426 02:14:39.079 --> 02:14:41.479 The giant up the matt and a bear. Hug can 2427 02:14:41.560 --> 02:14:45.000 we take a? Second can we take a? Second, Ye 2428 02:14:47.560 --> 02:14:51.520 andrew The, giant The. Giant how has that one never? 2429 02:14:51.640 --> 02:14:54.600 HAPPENED i don't even know. How we've never fucking said 2430 02:14:54.640 --> 02:15:00.159 that through the. Charms it's like, work does? It it's 2431 02:15:00.319 --> 02:15:02.680 not at. All something tells me the Eighth wonder of 2432 02:15:02.760 --> 02:15:08.079 The world is not Named Andrew Andy andy The giant 2433 02:15:08.359 --> 02:15:18.039 and The giant first Saw i'm AT hcfc WHEN i 2434 02:15:18.239 --> 02:15:21.119 used to take my grandma to watch wrestling. There he 2435 02:15:21.399 --> 02:15:24.279 was a very nice. Guy my grandma had her picture 2436 02:15:24.359 --> 02:15:29.159 taking with. Him he actually wrestled my daddy back in the. Seventies. 2437 02:15:29.520 --> 02:15:34.960 Lol It's britney Mack. Mills here we, Go here we. 2438 02:15:35.079 --> 02:15:39.159 Go hold on a, Second Bill. Capple that's really interesting 2439 02:15:39.239 --> 02:15:41.279 to see who wrestled whule kviing in the early. Days 2440 02:15:41.439 --> 02:15:43.239 if you don't mind me, asking what was your dad's 2441 02:15:43.319 --> 02:15:48.600 ring name back? Then thanks so, Much jared did he 2442 02:15:48.600 --> 02:15:51.479 even sat with his cool dude with his cool dude 2443 02:15:51.479 --> 02:15:56.079 at the waffle house WHEN i was about, six must. Fantastically, 2444 02:15:56.920 --> 02:16:01.000 YEAH i. WAS i was at The dose The doathan, 2445 02:16:01.079 --> 02:16:04.760 match SAYS. R. A. YATES i was at The dothan. 2446 02:16:04.920 --> 02:16:08.720 Match we arrived very. Early it sold out and people 2447 02:16:08.800 --> 02:16:11.680 try to watch through the glass. DOORS i stood near 2448 02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:13.520 a dressing room at the end of the. Bleachers he 2449 02:16:14.079 --> 02:16:16.479 walked right by me and as he walked to the 2450 02:16:16.560 --> 02:16:20.760 ring a big. Man W Tv why wrestling was was 2451 02:16:20.840 --> 02:16:25.039 a special time with The, Freebirds Jimmy, Fuller Norville austin 2452 02:16:25.119 --> 02:16:27.960 And international Heart Throb Austin. IDOL i didn't mention the 2453 02:16:27.960 --> 02:16:31.359 Free birds started there. Too let's, Yeah Terry, GORDY i 2454 02:16:31.560 --> 02:16:35.120 Remember terry The. HULK i would go down Doath And 2455 02:16:35.280 --> 02:16:38.920 Farm saturday For Friday, night been to W Tv why 2456 02:16:39.040 --> 02:16:46.159 On saturday afternoon for The shadowagne and then to the 2457 02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:50.079 New Brockton Farm center On saturday. Night that's when wrestling 2458 02:16:50.159 --> 02:16:53.639 was more of a spot with some show. Boating, yeah, 2459 02:16:53.680 --> 02:16:59.799 okay Than marie Uh terry what the plays Called gary's 2460 02:17:00.680 --> 02:17:04.360 On Hartford highway And. DOTHAN i used to spot for, 2461 02:17:04.520 --> 02:17:08.840 him biggest, MAN i have us. ALL i feel like he's, 2462 02:17:08.879 --> 02:17:11.600 missing you know. RIGHT i feel like it's a FUCKING 2463 02:17:11.840 --> 02:17:13.600 i feel like it's like a lawn order episode and 2464 02:17:13.639 --> 02:17:16.440 people are fucking like asking questions around these people doing 2465 02:17:17.000 --> 02:17:19.680 doing dockwork and stuff, like oh, Yeah terror was out 2466 02:17:19.719 --> 02:17:24.639 of now terrible Place gary's, Gym well spot him a 2467 02:17:24.680 --> 02:17:27.000 couple of, times could be doing dock working about a, 2468 02:17:27.079 --> 02:17:32.639 year that's. Right and they sometimes stopped The Jim steakhouse 2469 02:17:32.719 --> 02:17:37.319 And marianna back. Things it Is Jim, steaks all, right all, 2470 02:17:37.399 --> 02:17:42.959 Right Gem's steakhouse the gym he worked out. In, YEP 2471 02:17:44.399 --> 02:17:47.319 i guess we have to go back To. Alabama, wow 2472 02:17:48.200 --> 02:17:51.559 good stuff there steak. House and there's. More BUT i, 2473 02:17:52.200 --> 02:17:53.799 OKAY i thought that was the last. One, NO i 2474 02:17:53.879 --> 02:17:55.840 NEED i just need to find out. This let's bring 2475 02:17:55.879 --> 02:17:58.159 the whole thing to a screeching halt until we see 2476 02:17:58.159 --> 02:18:01.959 the potatoes all. Grotten all, right all, right this is 2477 02:18:02.200 --> 02:18:05.719 oh it's a oh, yes this is it's a gym's 2478 02:18:05.760 --> 02:18:12.719 buffet and. Grill, NOW i guess In, Marianna, Florida. Florida, yeah, yeah, 2479 02:18:12.840 --> 02:18:18.280 yeah let's see they give Me is there a? Menu? Please? 2480 02:18:18.799 --> 02:18:19.360 Ah here we. 2481 02:18:19.440 --> 02:18:19.479 Go. 2482 02:18:19.680 --> 02:18:24.120 Menu what do we? Got what do we? Got let's. See, 2483 02:18:24.239 --> 02:18:32.159 oh they have beef, dinners the fourteen ounce ribbi uh 2484 02:18:32.440 --> 02:18:36.799 tens twenty ounce no ten Ounce rabbi seafood, Dinners Happy 2485 02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.280 meal for the, family which is a nine piece chicken, 2486 02:18:39.319 --> 02:18:45.920 meal six piece pork chopped, meal six piece country fry beef. 2487 02:18:46.079 --> 02:18:51.120 Steak of course a country fry beef. Cake but that 2488 02:18:51.200 --> 02:19:01.399 would be. Different that was really. STUPID i saw him. 2489 02:19:01.399 --> 02:19:04.440 Again It's Harley Race, austin not a interfere by taking 2490 02:19:04.479 --> 02:19:10.239 a picture with flash cube with Flash Cube coston Costing 2491 02:19:10.360 --> 02:19:14.440 bowld the. Match what's flash cube to? That trust? Me 2492 02:19:14.719 --> 02:19:17.959 what's a flash? Cube get? There you know? What it's 2493 02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:20.120 a real thing at Flash cube called it. 2494 02:19:20.200 --> 02:19:20.520 That BUT. 2495 02:19:22.719 --> 02:19:28.399 I remember Him Thoughtingma John Farm, Center Washington Wrestle Harley 2496 02:19:28.520 --> 02:19:33.920 race to the world title at Rip Hugh. Stadium we 2497 02:19:34.079 --> 02:19:36.760 took my husband's daddy to see you and went and 2498 02:19:36.879 --> 02:19:42.239 for the very first show In, Dothan, alabama daddy's husband's 2499 02:19:42.319 --> 02:19:45.959 daddy to see him for the very first show In, Dothan, 2500 02:19:46.000 --> 02:19:50.760 alabama Show Pulk wrestler. Exactly so we want to talk 2501 02:19:50.799 --> 02:19:54.559 To Tammy hilms. Here we gotta get her on the 2502 02:19:54.600 --> 02:19:57.680 fucking horn. Boy saw him back in the day at 2503 02:19:57.760 --> 02:20:01.360 The New Brocton Farm, center saw him In New. Brockton 2504 02:20:03.479 --> 02:20:07.360 that's it. Unreal they're out there and they're taking A 2505 02:20:07.399 --> 02:20:10.920 facebook to. Reflect oh, wait, sorry well there's this. One 2506 02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:13.600 this is. Yet oh, okay this is the next one 2507 02:20:13.639 --> 02:20:16.239 you're looking. At, yeah, yeah, yeah we'll get that, right 2508 02:20:17.559 --> 02:20:18.079 because we're. 2509 02:20:17.959 --> 02:20:18.200 Not to The. 2510 02:20:18.239 --> 02:20:20.559 Hulk we're not to The andre match. Yet hulk was 2511 02:20:20.600 --> 02:20:23.639 still working Against Ron fuller and they had a match 2512 02:20:23.680 --> 02:20:26.760 where to, Win hulk had to use his Bear hug 2513 02:20:26.959 --> 02:20:28.719 And fuller had to use the figure four leg, lock 2514 02:20:28.840 --> 02:20:30.159 or he didn't call it the figure, four it was 2515 02:20:30.200 --> 02:20:33.159 just a light. Lock. Yeah they do a personality profile 2516 02:20:33.200 --> 02:20:36.680 on television where it's like tell us About hulk and wrestling, 2517 02:20:36.760 --> 02:20:38.719 him And Ron fuller talks about how strong The hulk 2518 02:20:38.879 --> 02:20:40.840 is and how the bear hug could crush your bones 2519 02:20:41.360 --> 02:20:43.799 and how rare these types of submission matches, are like 2520 02:20:43.879 --> 02:20:46.399 we're having the one coming. Up, Hey, Brett Brett austin. 2521 02:20:46.479 --> 02:20:48.920 MUCH i, mean, yeah, right you have to use your hold. 2522 02:20:48.959 --> 02:20:50.879 Though that's the. Thing it's not submit by any. Means 2523 02:20:50.959 --> 02:20:53.639 you had to submit him with, wow your. Hold hulk 2524 02:20:53.760 --> 02:20:56.079 been wrestling ON tv every week and so people are 2525 02:20:56.079 --> 02:20:58.920 getting accustomed to his offensive, arsenal in particular the bear. 2526 02:20:59.200 --> 02:21:02.639 Hug and then suddenly there's there's a hint of a 2527 02:21:02.719 --> 02:21:05.399 bit of a dispute with the, Manager Billy, spears and 2528 02:21:05.520 --> 02:21:09.319 the story begins to take some, well let's, say pardon 2529 02:21:09.440 --> 02:21:12.479 upun some fuller. Shape here's The tennessee. 2530 02:21:12.079 --> 02:21:15.440 Stud so The hook was back ON tv, again and 2531 02:21:16.120 --> 02:21:19.079 and he'd been wrestling on EVERY tv show since he 2532 02:21:19.239 --> 02:21:23.079 got there except for the very last. Week and for 2533 02:21:23.239 --> 02:21:27.520 this time he did something that was really different that 2534 02:21:27.680 --> 02:21:30.680 he had never done. Before he had a little dispute 2535 02:21:30.799 --> 02:21:34.760 with his, Manager Billy, spears you know. Who billy had 2536 02:21:34.879 --> 02:21:41.120 him announced As Sterling, golden but the Big, man and you, 2537 02:21:41.239 --> 02:21:43.879 know he went straight over the announcer and he told 2538 02:21:44.000 --> 02:21:46.840 him to call Me terry the Hug. Boat. 2539 02:21:47.280 --> 02:21:47.520 Wow. 2540 02:21:48.399 --> 02:21:52.760 Wow, okay, basically there's this big guy man who has 2541 02:21:52.959 --> 02:21:56.799 just been following everybody's suggestion and keeping his mouth. Shut 2542 02:21:57.159 --> 02:21:59.559 for the first time in his, career he did something 2543 02:21:59.639 --> 02:22:02.680 on his. Own you, know nobody told him do. That 2544 02:22:02.840 --> 02:22:05.079 he just went over and, Said, hey that's not WHO 2545 02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:07.399 i want to be, called call Me. Terry the whole boat. 2546 02:22:07.600 --> 02:22:10.959 Wow the guy introduced, him the natural introduced him. Again 2547 02:22:11.079 --> 02:22:14.000 SO i was pretty, UH i was pretty impressed by. 2548 02:22:14.040 --> 02:22:16.280 THAT i, said you, know this kid's got a, son 2549 02:22:16.399 --> 02:22:20.399 he's got some ump to. Him So spears obviously was 2550 02:22:20.440 --> 02:22:22.479 a little bit upset by, it but he didn't push 2551 02:22:22.559 --> 02:22:25.280 it too, far you, Know AND i think that A 2552 02:22:25.479 --> 02:22:28.440 hoak made a gesture to him to like get out 2553 02:22:28.520 --> 02:22:32.799 on the, floor, right get out of the. Ring oh you, 2554 02:22:32.879 --> 02:22:36.239 know there's a little thuming going on now Between oak And. 2555 02:22:36.360 --> 02:22:39.639 Spears so Then hoak made his opponent give up in 2556 02:22:39.719 --> 02:22:43.639 the barreug and when he, did he dropped him. Immediately 2557 02:22:43.799 --> 02:22:46.760 he wasn't going to hurt. Him and Then spears jumped 2558 02:22:46.799 --> 02:22:48.840 back up in the ring and he made him pick 2559 02:22:48.959 --> 02:22:50.680 up the guy and put him in the bar ug 2560 02:22:50.799 --> 02:22:54.600 again after he'd already beat him right, Right so you, 2561 02:22:54.680 --> 02:22:58.239 know and obviously it looked Like spears Wanted oak to 2562 02:22:59.000 --> 02:23:01.600 make him bleed from the wow like he had Done 2563 02:23:02.159 --> 02:23:05.520 roy And, leicester both The, welches you, Know and SO 2564 02:23:05.879 --> 02:23:07.719 i wasn't going to allow. THAT i ran in the 2565 02:23:07.879 --> 02:23:10.479 ring And terry And spears they headed for the dressing. 2566 02:23:10.600 --> 02:23:12.639 Room the Lap Fan. 2567 02:23:12.639 --> 02:23:46.440 Wrestling, podcast the wrestling podcast that knows the boys need their. 2568 02:23:46.520 --> 02:24:04.520 Candy it's The Lapsed. Fan sick of the. Ads sign 2569 02:24:04.639 --> 02:24:07.360 up for ad free shows and even more content at 2570 02:24:07.440 --> 02:24:29.280 patreon dot Com slash The Lapsed. Fan he's A Lapsed 2571 02:24:29.360 --> 02:24:33.360 fan wrestling podcast With jack mjp. 2572 02:24:33.559 --> 02:24:37.440 Soo so we have the first hint of a potential, babyface, 2573 02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:41.479 yes And Terry. Bowler he's taking a stand Against Billy. 2574 02:24:41.520 --> 02:24:43.760 Spears and that's a time tested pro wrestling, angle right 2575 02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:47.760 where the heel that's managed by the overbearing heel manager eventually. 2576 02:24:48.879 --> 02:24:52.479 Right andre did this with With heenan AND wwf. Yep 2577 02:24:52.600 --> 02:24:55.479 so it's starting to build and they're starting to already 2578 02:24:55.879 --> 02:24:58.440 even just like a month, in start kicking. Around what 2579 02:24:58.520 --> 02:25:02.559 it looks like at this guy is actually. Babyface so 2580 02:25:02.760 --> 02:25:06.680 we continue. Forward he has these three on one handicap 2581 02:25:06.840 --> 02:25:10.680 matches and the such and so before we get to 2582 02:25:11.959 --> 02:25:13.920 The andre, STUFF i want to skip ahead a little bit. 2583 02:25:14.000 --> 02:25:16.159 Now this match that we're about to. Watch if you 2584 02:25:16.239 --> 02:25:22.000 can configure your your folder, there we're gonna jump. Forward 2585 02:25:22.399 --> 02:25:25.360 this actually does take place after The andre. Things you're 2586 02:25:25.399 --> 02:25:27.840 gonna see The andre, thing but you keep you keep it, 2587 02:25:27.959 --> 02:25:34.879 moving and we're gonna. Go we're gonna go to let 2588 02:25:34.959 --> 02:25:38.680 me see how far in it? Is is it a? 2589 02:25:38.760 --> 02:25:42.879 Tag is it a? Wait is it five seventy? Nine 2590 02:25:44.319 --> 02:25:47.120 so at some point A vhs comes out Called Tag 2591 02:25:47.200 --> 02:25:50.520 Team Title, wave but it has Hal cochin wrestling in 2592 02:25:50.600 --> 02:25:53.479 a non tag team match In Gulf. Coast BUT i 2593 02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:55.440 get the tape is mostly made up Of Gulf coast 2594 02:25:55.520 --> 02:25:58.159 AND i think some unreleased In memphis as. Well and 2595 02:25:58.319 --> 02:26:00.920 so here is, uh here's our first glimpse you're gonna 2596 02:26:00.920 --> 02:26:02.159 get you get to feel, it and if you want 2597 02:26:02.159 --> 02:26:04.360 to find it on, YouTube it's easy to, find ye 2598 02:26:05.040 --> 02:26:07.719 of What Terry boley looked like in the ring in 2599 02:26:07.840 --> 02:26:12.600 this territory and uh in a classic sort of example 2600 02:26:12.680 --> 02:26:15.559 of you, know the muscleman style that he was. Doing 2601 02:26:16.239 --> 02:26:19.440 so are we? Ready? Yes start from the? Beginning oh 2602 02:26:19.520 --> 02:26:26.719 yeah on my one, okay three two one voting playing 2603 02:26:27.520 --> 02:26:43.079 play get ready? Folks oh that's crackling, Hum oh, yeah it's. 2604 02:26:43.120 --> 02:26:46.239 There it. 2605 02:26:46.600 --> 02:26:51.920 Is in, fact There's Parker films three g home video 2606 02:26:55.559 --> 02:26:58.879 there he is flexing those huge biceps with a blue 2607 02:26:58.959 --> 02:27:02.879 singlet's still In Terry. 2608 02:27:02.959 --> 02:27:07.440 Bolea, Oh welcome to another edition of The World's Greatest wrestling. 2609 02:27:07.559 --> 02:27:12.239 Series on this, series we featured a madness some of 2610 02:27:12.280 --> 02:27:16.600 the most awesome and punishing wrestling actions you've ever. Witnessed 2611 02:27:16.959 --> 02:27:20.040 Randy Macho, Man savage, Ravishing Rick, rude the. 2612 02:27:20.159 --> 02:27:22.799 Anvil they're rock and roll. Expressions sell as much as 2613 02:27:22.799 --> 02:27:23.399 they can off the. 2614 02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:28.360 Guys fuss just uncovered from the vaults of private. Collectors 2615 02:27:28.639 --> 02:27:34.280 private collectors of carry The Hulk. Boulder that's, Right Hulk 2616 02:27:34.440 --> 02:27:35.680 holgan against The. 2617 02:27:35.799 --> 02:27:40.239 Outlaw let's go with the private. Collection where's that private? 2618 02:27:40.440 --> 02:27:43.520 Look oh, shit all that WAS i just FUCKING i 2619 02:27:43.600 --> 02:27:45.799 hit the wrong damn. Button, here pause for a. Second 2620 02:27:46.520 --> 02:27:48.920 what's your time? Code go back to one. Eleven, actually 2621 02:27:48.959 --> 02:27:52.159 let's start. THERE i want people to observe and listen 2622 02:27:52.200 --> 02:27:54.079 to the transition when he actually goes to the ring 2623 02:27:54.719 --> 02:27:57.600 and you hear you just see how big he is 2624 02:27:58.440 --> 02:28:00.840 and how he's. Introduced are you? Ready all? Right? Yeah? 2625 02:28:00.879 --> 02:28:02.680 Three two? One play against The. 2626 02:28:02.799 --> 02:28:04.440 Outlaw let's go right to the. 2627 02:28:04.559 --> 02:28:09.559 Action look At Holy ship. 2628 02:28:09.399 --> 02:28:10.639 Five pounds From, Tampa. 2629 02:28:10.760 --> 02:28:12.200 Florida terry The Hawk. 2630 02:28:12.319 --> 02:28:17.479 Boader wow started getting. Cheers the, hair the hair is, parted. 2631 02:28:18.399 --> 02:28:21.840 Golden he's blue, pads blue sing. Up it's sterling as. 2632 02:28:21.879 --> 02:28:25.040 Well someone said this might be the sizes fucking. CLOWN 2633 02:28:25.360 --> 02:28:27.079 i don't think it's, telebitch the. 2634 02:28:27.360 --> 02:28:29.319 Uncrowned did you hear that? 2635 02:28:30.680 --> 02:28:34.959 Uncrowned we're gonna find out they need of his colored? Elbow, gone, 2636 02:28:35.959 --> 02:28:38.079 oh look at, that just fucking tosses him down like a. 2637 02:28:38.159 --> 02:28:39.399 Bitch push you weight by. 2638 02:28:39.520 --> 02:28:42.079 Bowler i'll say one thing About Jerry. 2639 02:28:42.159 --> 02:28:44.760 Boulder he broke all attendant records and both In alabama 2640 02:28:44.799 --> 02:28:47.920 a few weeks ago and he broke all. ATTENDANCE i 2641 02:28:47.920 --> 02:28:49.879 don't know is? That is that a real impressive? Thing 2642 02:28:51.520 --> 02:28:56.680 breaking records and do thirty seven? Seconds he held that 2643 02:28:56.799 --> 02:29:01.479 title talking About wow for the deep. Slam hogan's, going, no, 2644 02:29:02.479 --> 02:29:04.360 no you're not gonna slam this guy. 2645 02:29:06.479 --> 02:29:10.319 Wow questioning about his. 2646 02:29:10.399 --> 02:29:16.000 Slam look at. Him the hair is really fluffy. Too 2647 02:29:16.040 --> 02:29:19.760 it's not. Thin it is now thinning on the. Top but, 2648 02:29:20.000 --> 02:29:23.280 yes it looks on the sides like he would make 2649 02:29:23.360 --> 02:29:24.239 it very soft. 2650 02:29:24.319 --> 02:29:24.520 Hair. 2651 02:29:26.479 --> 02:29:34.000 Wow looksty thing really was? This is he's much more 2652 02:29:35.440 --> 02:29:38.120 advanced that he was in fucking in That florida training. 2653 02:29:38.120 --> 02:29:42.600 Footage he's, like he looks probably some of his most 2654 02:29:42.639 --> 02:29:46.399 intensive over seeing big whip and there's the bear. Hut, 2655 02:29:46.760 --> 02:29:53.200 whoa look at that he's got. That that's. Right charlie's 2656 02:29:53.200 --> 02:29:57.399 got a bag left to right Like marlene In. China, right, yeah. 2657 02:30:02.280 --> 02:30:02.399 He's. 2658 02:30:02.479 --> 02:30:07.840 Dead oh my, god look at the. FANS i, mean 2659 02:30:07.920 --> 02:30:11.159 that was. It that's. Wild what just go, ahead, impressions 2660 02:30:11.559 --> 02:30:14.399 you've seen. Them it's just it's it's seeing him in 2661 02:30:14.479 --> 02:30:19.440 THE i don't Think i've ever seen him that early, 2662 02:30:19.559 --> 02:30:24.719 on and he looks he looks. Phenomenal, honestly he's in great, 2663 02:30:24.799 --> 02:30:28.840 shape and he looks he looks, tough he looks. Threatening, 2664 02:30:29.000 --> 02:30:31.600 right that's. KEY i can't you, KNOW i can't think 2665 02:30:31.639 --> 02:30:35.239 of a, time you, know it's certainly not in my, 2666 02:30:35.920 --> 02:30:39.319 uh sweet and warm and fuzzy period where he felt. 2667 02:30:39.360 --> 02:30:44.920 Threatening and that's and AND i mean like physically aggressively, 2668 02:30:45.520 --> 02:30:50.600 threatening not just not like this guy. Alive, yeah. Exactly it's. 2669 02:30:50.719 --> 02:30:53.120 Wild it's quite a way to get introduced to this 2670 02:30:53.159 --> 02:30:54.840 guy instead of the way we got introduced to him 2671 02:30:54.840 --> 02:30:57.239 as young hul comaniacs after the whole the cake had been. 2672 02:30:57.280 --> 02:31:00.719 Baked you, know those those those twenty people in THAT 2673 02:31:00.760 --> 02:31:04.879 tv studio cheering him on or oh yeah at the absolute. 2674 02:31:04.959 --> 02:31:09.559 Vanguard So fuller continues to work With Terry, boulder including 2675 02:31:09.600 --> 02:31:11.639 The april twenty third show In. Montgomery this is the 2676 02:31:11.680 --> 02:31:14.520 one where you could win by submission. Only Ron fuller 2677 02:31:14.559 --> 02:31:16.559 recalls it being a great match with people into, it 2678 02:31:16.879 --> 02:31:20.040 And terry still a, heel kept leaving the ring Whenever 2679 02:31:20.200 --> 02:31:22.360 Ron fuller would go for his leg lock because uh 2680 02:31:22.719 --> 02:31:26.600 uh oh some trauma, there boss, right, yes, exactly And 2681 02:31:27.040 --> 02:31:28.840 i'm trying to not get caught in the hold. Brother, 2682 02:31:29.360 --> 02:31:32.319 Finally Terry boulder collides with the ref And fuller gets 2683 02:31:32.360 --> 02:31:34.479 the toe hold on in the. Middle Billy spears hits 2684 02:31:34.520 --> 02:31:36.639 the ring with the referee down And fuller on his 2685 02:31:36.760 --> 02:31:39.000 back and The hulk screaming that he was giving, up 2686 02:31:39.040 --> 02:31:41.399 but there's no referee to hear. Him Billy spears had 2687 02:31:41.440 --> 02:31:43.840 a loaded fist and Knock Ron fuller. Out he got 2688 02:31:43.879 --> 02:31:46.559 The hulk, Up hulk put the bear hug, On spears 2689 02:31:46.639 --> 02:31:49.879 left the, Ring referee, recovered Raised fuller's arm three, times 2690 02:31:50.079 --> 02:31:53.000 ring the. Bell terry The Huke boulder Squeezes Ron fuller to. 2691 02:31:53.120 --> 02:31:56.559 Death he raises his hand in. Victory spears And hulk 2692 02:31:56.760 --> 02:31:58.719 had to fight their way via police to the back 2693 02:31:58.760 --> 02:32:01.159 to the dressing, room and they came back with a 2694 02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:04.719 lumberjack match this, time the idea being That hulk can't 2695 02:32:04.799 --> 02:32:07.280 run out of the ring like he did When Ron 2696 02:32:07.319 --> 02:32:09.479 fuller was threatening with the leg lock and keep you. 2697 02:32:09.840 --> 02:32:13.719 Out he showed, something Run fuller, says by doing something 2698 02:32:13.760 --> 02:32:17.040 he wasn't told to. Do uh in the, match he 2699 02:32:17.079 --> 02:32:19.159 had good sensibilities and a good feeling for the, sport 2700 02:32:19.239 --> 02:32:21.040 AND i knew right, away Run fuller, said this guy 2701 02:32:21.159 --> 02:32:24.120 is going to be big time by the end Of. 2702 02:32:24.159 --> 02:32:28.440 April he's Working montgomery against The wrestling pro and the 2703 02:32:28.559 --> 02:32:32.079 territory brings in IN Wa World Heavyweight Champion Harley race 2704 02:32:32.200 --> 02:32:35.200 for the first time Since Terry bolea arrived in The 2705 02:32:35.200 --> 02:32:38.159 Gulf coast. Territory so that's going to make for an interesting, 2706 02:32:38.280 --> 02:32:41.079 mix oh for, sure and lead to comments like we 2707 02:32:41.239 --> 02:32:43.280 just heard about How Terry boleya was referred to On 2708 02:32:43.360 --> 02:32:48.000 Gulf Coast Television Southeastern television as the Uncrowned World Heavyweight 2709 02:32:48.079 --> 02:32:51.120 champion in his first fucking two months three months in the. 2710 02:32:51.479 --> 02:32:59.639 Business and here Comes Andre, insane here Comes, Andres As 2711 02:32:59.719 --> 02:33:03.040 hulk said to a book that ww came out with 2712 02:33:03.479 --> 02:33:06.840 About andre The, giant including commentary from people that wrestled 2713 02:33:06.879 --> 02:33:08.319 them from all over the. World hulk, said WHEN i 2714 02:33:08.319 --> 02:33:10.159 first got into the, business in my, MIND i THOUGHT 2715 02:33:10.159 --> 02:33:12.000 i could get as big As. Andre, yeah he even 2716 02:33:12.000 --> 02:33:15.040 told the newspapers he was. Right, apparently apparently he can 2717 02:33:15.120 --> 02:33:17.520 weigh more Than. ANDRE i wasn't. STUPID i KNEW i 2718 02:33:17.600 --> 02:33:19.719 could never be seven foot. FOUR i just thought that 2719 02:33:19.799 --> 02:33:21.600 in the wrestling BUSINESS i could be so big people 2720 02:33:21.639 --> 02:33:24.200 would just believe, Everything, like even if you Beat, andre 2721 02:33:24.399 --> 02:33:26.559 nobody really believe that he was so. Big so that 2722 02:33:26.680 --> 02:33:28.840 was my goal to be the, biggest STRONGEST i could, 2723 02:33:28.879 --> 02:33:31.639 be and hopefully be more impressive Than. Andre and along 2724 02:33:31.719 --> 02:33:33.600 with that came my, verbiage and that was a direct 2725 02:33:33.680 --> 02:33:37.559 threat To. Andre, yeah as far As ron stud could, 2726 02:33:37.600 --> 02:33:40.040 assess he knew what he. Needed he knew what he. 2727 02:33:40.120 --> 02:33:45.000 Needed he needed a guy that was. Big because If 2728 02:33:45.079 --> 02:33:48.239 hull could now destroyed, him the tallest guy in the 2729 02:33:48.319 --> 02:33:50.639 territory and really the biggest guy in the, territory not 2730 02:33:50.719 --> 02:33:54.120 from a star buyer, perspective but a literal height and mass, 2731 02:33:54.200 --> 02:33:58.479 perspective where do you go from? There if he's already 2732 02:33:58.479 --> 02:34:02.719 Squashed Ron, fuller where are you going to turn To 2733 02:34:02.840 --> 02:34:05.520 boss to find someone that can match the stature of 2734 02:34:05.600 --> 02:34:10.319 This terry The Hulk. Boulder, well who's the man for the? 2735 02:34:10.440 --> 02:34:12.239 Job all one of? 2736 02:34:12.399 --> 02:34:12.520 Us? 2737 02:34:12.559 --> 02:34:16.680 Are are you all down? 2738 02:34:16.760 --> 02:34:16.920 There? 2739 02:34:19.239 --> 02:34:19.360 Are? 2740 02:34:20.280 --> 02:34:31.600 MEG i come the golf, Coast, oh the golf coast 2741 02:34:32.200 --> 02:34:37.159 of The. STROLL i know we've been doing a lot 2742 02:34:37.200 --> 02:34:39.479 of COMPLETE i know we, have but can you believe 2743 02:34:39.520 --> 02:34:42.959 we're already talking About Hulk cogan Versus andre The? Giant? No, 2744 02:34:44.639 --> 02:34:47.159 NO I i figured we had another couple of months 2745 02:34:47.200 --> 02:34:50.799 before we got. There and here's, Why Ron fuller speaking to. 2746 02:34:50.879 --> 02:34:53.879 It, Well Louis man and Both louie AND i were 2747 02:34:53.959 --> 02:34:57.239 pleased with with His star Of. Recruit that's What i'll call, 2748 02:34:57.319 --> 02:35:00.920 HIM i guess so was the name we'd given. Him 2749 02:35:01.840 --> 02:35:05.600 And terry had a great, Attitude he had a great 2750 02:35:05.680 --> 02:35:09.200 desire to learn as fast as, possible and Both low 2751 02:35:09.239 --> 02:35:12.639 AND i recognized early on That terry's height and his 2752 02:35:12.879 --> 02:35:16.000 huge body was going to make it difficult for him 2753 02:35:16.079 --> 02:35:21.520 to wrestle just any you, know anybody, basically and certainly 2754 02:35:22.159 --> 02:35:25.719 for smaller, guys so other than me at six feet, 2755 02:35:25.879 --> 02:35:28.959 nine he was going to be looking down at almost every. 2756 02:35:29.040 --> 02:35:32.399 Opponent he is about six, Eight so In may in 2757 02:35:32.520 --> 02:35:35.399 nineteen seventy, nine he was about as far as long 2758 02:35:35.559 --> 02:35:37.280 AS i was going to be able to take. HIM 2759 02:35:37.639 --> 02:35:40.079 i couldn't keep wrestling him every. Week that's What i've 2760 02:35:40.120 --> 02:35:43.600 been doing now for about four, weeks and the upcoming 2761 02:35:43.719 --> 02:35:46.680 card that we'll be talking about later was the fourth 2762 02:35:46.719 --> 02:35:49.760 straight week That i'd wrestle against. Him so he was 2763 02:35:49.840 --> 02:35:52.760 going to need someone else his size soon to work, 2764 02:35:52.840 --> 02:35:56.120 with and we'd already begun to discuss who in the 2765 02:35:56.239 --> 02:36:00.000 sport was close to his size and available as soon as. 2766 02:36:00.239 --> 02:36:04.440 Possible somebody had to replace, me and one name we 2767 02:36:04.639 --> 02:36:08.959 both liked Was Ox, baker but he wasn't available soon 2768 02:36:09.159 --> 02:36:11.360 enough for. Us it was going to be a little 2769 02:36:11.440 --> 02:36:15.040 wild Before ox could get. There so the person that 2770 02:36:15.239 --> 02:36:18.959 we discussed Was Perfect, man and he was a wrestler 2771 02:36:19.040 --> 02:36:22.680 that also needed someonet closer to his size to have 2772 02:36:22.799 --> 02:36:27.520 a competitive. Match So lewis was From, Montreal, canada and 2773 02:36:27.680 --> 02:36:31.239 they had a close relationship with the most recognized wrestler 2774 02:36:31.280 --> 02:36:34.680 in the world back in those days and maybe still, 2775 02:36:34.760 --> 02:36:38.239 Today andre The, giant and they ad met years earlier 2776 02:36:38.280 --> 02:36:42.520 In montreal When andrea arrived there From. France so due 2777 02:36:42.559 --> 02:36:48.120 to that, connection Now andre was somewhat. Available he was 2778 02:36:48.239 --> 02:36:51.840 going to be easy for us to think get down 2779 02:36:51.920 --> 02:36:55.000 there into The Gulf. Coast SO i also had a 2780 02:36:55.120 --> 02:36:58.799 very good relationship With. Andre he'd been in the territory 2781 02:37:00.120 --> 02:37:04.040 match since four years. Earlier he had been in Both 2782 02:37:04.159 --> 02:37:08.399 southeastern territories at this. Point and but just as, IMPORTANT 2783 02:37:08.440 --> 02:37:10.920 i also had a good relationship with the guy that 2784 02:37:11.120 --> 02:37:14.760 booked him, man and that Was, vincement the owner of 2785 02:37:14.840 --> 02:37:15.760 THE wwf. 2786 02:37:15.959 --> 02:37:18.520 Territory He'd Ron fuller had wrestled For Vince senior IN 2787 02:37:18.639 --> 02:37:22.600 wwwf in nineteen seventy, three And vince was back on 2788 02:37:22.680 --> 02:37:25.719 HIS nwa good graces at that point in, time so 2789 02:37:25.799 --> 02:37:28.879 he'd See Vince senior at THE nwa. Convention you, know 2790 02:37:28.920 --> 02:37:31.799 it wasn't rare to have guys like A Rick flair 2791 02:37:31.920 --> 02:37:34.040 Or ted De biassi who were working for other N 2792 02:37:34.159 --> 02:37:36.959 wa territories to work In Madison Square garden here or. 2793 02:37:36.959 --> 02:37:40.000 There that's. Right we know this this is around the 2794 02:37:40.040 --> 02:37:41.920 time we played it earlier in the Complete Hulic coogan 2795 02:37:41.959 --> 02:37:44.479 that they did The Superstar Billy graham Versus Harley Race 2796 02:37:44.600 --> 02:37:47.600 champion Versus champion Super bowl match at The Orange. Bowl 2797 02:37:47.959 --> 02:37:50.600 so there's a lot of co, promotion a lot of cooperation. Going, 2798 02:37:50.760 --> 02:37:53.719 Yeah super Super bowl of all the, leagues all the 2799 02:37:53.799 --> 02:37:56.879 leagues been a fan of that other version of That Super. 2800 02:37:56.920 --> 02:37:59.719 Bowl we needed a big. Guy and how about that 2801 02:37:59.799 --> 02:38:02.440 if Ox baker was, available maybe we wouldn't have gotten this. Early, 2802 02:38:02.559 --> 02:38:06.520 WOW i, know right Proto Hogan andre. Action but the 2803 02:38:06.559 --> 02:38:09.639 pieces were, there the connections were, right And, louis to let, 2804 02:38:09.719 --> 02:38:12.639 it already talked To andrea About hogan being a perfect 2805 02:38:12.680 --> 02:38:13.840 fit for him and a perfect. 2806 02:38:14.200 --> 02:38:17.840 Opponent So andre The giant and the Future hug were 2807 02:38:17.879 --> 02:38:21.840 an obvious natural fit for each. Other louis had already 2808 02:38:21.920 --> 02:38:24.360 talked To andrea about his new talent that we had 2809 02:38:24.920 --> 02:38:28.440 and that he was huge Like andrea and a perfect 2810 02:38:28.520 --> 02:38:31.520 fit for him as an. Opponent And i'd also talked 2811 02:38:31.520 --> 02:38:34.559 To Vince senior at this point about someone knew THAT 2812 02:38:34.680 --> 02:38:37.600 i had in my territory there was a perfect fit For. 2813 02:38:37.760 --> 02:38:41.680 Andre so basically a deal was made between me And. 2814 02:38:41.920 --> 02:38:44.600 Vince Obviously andre was going to be a part of, 2815 02:38:44.680 --> 02:38:47.799 it and it was going to Put andre In, Dothan, 2816 02:38:47.879 --> 02:38:51.959 alabama On friday, Night may the, fourth nineteen seventy nine 2817 02:38:52.559 --> 02:38:56.040 for a three day. Stay and That may the, fourth 2818 02:38:56.159 --> 02:39:01.000 nineteen seventy nine, Afternoon terry The Huge boat Or Sterling 2819 02:39:01.120 --> 02:39:04.760 golden or you, know whatever name he, wanted and they 2820 02:39:04.920 --> 02:39:07.040 had a bunch of them at this, point you, know 2821 02:39:08.239 --> 02:39:11.479 they wanted to you, know The terry rode with me 2822 02:39:11.680 --> 02:39:16.319 over To Louis tilled's home In, dothan And andre was waiting. 2823 02:39:16.440 --> 02:39:16.600 There. 2824 02:39:16.959 --> 02:39:20.639 Wow, Yes so it was In Southeastern resting on The 2825 02:39:20.920 --> 02:39:24.159 may the, fourth nineteen seventy nine that for the first, 2826 02:39:24.239 --> 02:39:28.159 Time andre To johan And Huk hogan laid eyes on each. 2827 02:39:28.200 --> 02:39:32.959 Other, huh that's wild face to. Face you think of 2828 02:39:33.000 --> 02:39:35.959 The WrestleMania three video jacket cover With hulk And andrea 2829 02:39:36.040 --> 02:39:39.680 and that iconic face. Off quite a different story in 2830 02:39:40.319 --> 02:39:43.559 the spring of seventy nine In, alabama Where terry The 2831 02:39:43.639 --> 02:39:47.159 Hulk Boulder greeness can Be. Greeness The hulk himself walks 2832 02:39:47.200 --> 02:39:50.360 into a room and first makes eye contact with the 2833 02:39:50.440 --> 02:39:52.959 guy that he would draw the most money with and 2834 02:39:53.239 --> 02:39:56.120 just take the business to a higher level than anyone 2835 02:39:56.159 --> 02:39:58.879 ever thought possible with That pontiac silver domin eighty, Seven 2836 02:39:59.319 --> 02:40:02.399 let the echo of eighty, Seven let the echoes of 2837 02:40:02.440 --> 02:40:05.840 our pilgrimage to The Pontiac silver. Nomes, yes, indeed begin 2838 02:40:06.040 --> 02:40:08.479 let us go to the. Route the next, time on 2839 02:40:08.600 --> 02:40:11.840 the Complete Hull, cogan we go to the very First 2840 02:40:12.159 --> 02:40:17.719 Hull cogan Versus andre The giant. Match this anouncement as. 2841 02:40:17.600 --> 02:40:20.840 A T J DeSantis, production its contents is intended for 2842 02:40:20.959 --> 02:40:21.600 private use. 2843 02:40:21.680 --> 02:40:21.920 Only