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Speaker 3: When you're out there in the heat, the body's trying
Speaker 3: to dissipate the heat, and that's why you sweat when
Speaker 3: the humidity is up. And when you combine the heat
Speaker 3: and the humidity, it forms the heat index. And I
Speaker 3: mean you can have kind of serious days even when
Speaker 3: the temperatures are in the upper eighties. If the humidity
Speaker 3: is very high, that can raise the heat index to
Speaker 3: levels that can be somewhat dangerous. And what happens is
Speaker 3: the higher the heat index goes, the tougher it is
Speaker 3: for that sweat to evaporate. And when the sweat evaporates,
Speaker 3: that's when the body kind of cools itself. So because
Speaker 3: that can't happen efficiently, the internal body temperature starts to
Speaker 3: go up. And that's when you get into stuff like
Speaker 3: I say, the heat cramps, and at some point you
Speaker 3: may even stop sweating because the mechanism's shutting down and
Speaker 3: you don't want to even get to that point. And
Speaker 3: that's why it's important to make sure that you start
Speaker 3: drinking early and drink often throughout the round.
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Speaker 1: Green Hey, Before we get into our interview with Bob
Speaker 1: Forman on how to increase your focus through better hydration,
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Speaker 1: Golf Smarter Podcast, Bob.
Speaker 3: Thanks Fred.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well and love to talk about fitness. Golf
Speaker 1: fitness seems to be one of those one of those
Speaker 1: items in the golfer's bag that gets forgotten about on
Speaker 1: a regular basis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, And it's definitely a spoke on the golf
Speaker 3: development wheel that a lot of people don't really think about,
Speaker 3: don't realize, aren't aware, but it's a significant spoke to
Speaker 3: help them better their games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that analogy of that metaphor of using it
Speaker 1: as a spoke, because you know, part of the wheel
Speaker 1: is going to break down if you don't have everything
Speaker 1: strong exactly.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, with the skill piece, you know,
Speaker 3: the lessons that golfers take, the equipment piece, I mean,
Speaker 3: those are all important. Those of all especially the equipment
Speaker 3: has gotten better over the years. But you know, I
Speaker 3: usually correlate that to somebody who goes out and buys
Speaker 3: a used car and the car does run all that well,
Speaker 3: and goes out and spends a lot of money to
Speaker 3: put four new tires on it, thinking it's going to
Speaker 3: make the car run better, But you're still stuck with
Speaker 3: that mechanism that's driving a car, and that's the engine.
Speaker 3: In this case, it's the golfer himself. And most golfers
Speaker 3: don't realize that it's their own bodies that are holding
Speaker 3: them back from better golf.
Speaker 1: So let's not assume that people are going to start
Speaker 1: losing weight and go on diets just so they can
Speaker 1: improve their golf. But you don't have to have the
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods type of body, the Olympic style body specimen
Speaker 1: to be an efficient golfer, do you.
Speaker 3: Oh, No, definitely not. And I think a lot of people,
Speaker 3: you know, are kind of reluctant to get into golf
Speaker 3: fitness programs because they feel that, you know, geezo, I
Speaker 3: got to run a five K do I have to
Speaker 3: lift my body weight? And it's really not about that,
Speaker 3: and it's really yeah, I mean, it's really about kind
Speaker 3: of identifying where the deficiencies are the anatomical deficiencies, the
Speaker 3: muscle tightness, the muscle weakness, and the muscle imbalance. And
Speaker 3: then once you identify those to target an exercise program
Speaker 3: to correct those. And when you do that, you're going
Speaker 3: to allow the golfer to move more efficiently and therefore
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to swing the better golf club.
Speaker 1: So that was my next question is what will the
Speaker 1: golfer notice once they start correcting those inefficiencies.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean within a relatively short period of time,
Speaker 3: within six weeks, four to six weeks. Really, it really
Speaker 3: depends on how consistent they are with the program. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 3: if they're not going to do it, they're not going
Speaker 3: to see results. I mean, you've got to put a
Speaker 3: little effort into this. You know, in the society that
Speaker 3: we're in where everybody wants it yesterday, you know, it
Speaker 3: takes a little effort. But if they stay pretty consistent
Speaker 3: with their programs, like I say, in a relatively short
Speaker 3: period of time, they're going to feel more flexibility, they're
Speaker 3: going to have more range of motion, they're going to
Speaker 3: be making better ball contact distance and we all know
Speaker 3: distance is still king in golf. They're going to be
Speaker 3: able to get down the fairway another ten to fifteen
Speaker 3: twenty yards. I mean, even some of the eighty year
Speaker 3: olds that I'm working with in a relatively short period
Speaker 3: of time, they come back all exciting the fact that
Speaker 3: they're now, you know, starting to drive the ball past
Speaker 3: their other golfing buddies. So I mean, you're going to
Speaker 3: find these results fairly quickly, and it really all depends
Speaker 3: on your compliance with the exercise.
Speaker 1: Program, right right. I don't want to correct anything you're saying.
Speaker 1: But here at Golf Smarter, we're more focused. We're not
Speaker 1: focused on distance. We're focused more on accuracy. Like we
Speaker 1: like to say, I would much rather have ten feet
Speaker 1: closer than ten yards farther any day, you know so,
Speaker 1: But so it's beyond that. I didn't want to say, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody loves distance, but come on, folks, get
Speaker 1: over it.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, the other thing is if
Speaker 3: you have deficiencies, and if you combine those with poor
Speaker 3: swing mechanics. In a lot of instances, the anatomical deficiencies
Speaker 3: are causing those poor swing mechanics. In some cases it's
Speaker 3: just bad habits. But when you combine those two, the
Speaker 3: inconsistency of which you're swinging the golf club is not
Speaker 3: going to afford you the accuracy that you talk about
Speaker 3: and or the distance. So once you get into a
Speaker 3: program in you start correcting those deficiencies, your ball contact
Speaker 3: is going to improve tremendously.
Speaker 1: And I want to establish that you don't come to
Speaker 1: this as a PGA certified instructor. You give us a
Speaker 1: little of your history so we can establish your credibility
Speaker 1: on why we're talking about fitness with you.
Speaker 3: Well, I have a master's degree in exercise physiology, which
Speaker 3: means I studied the effects of exercise on the body.
Speaker 3: And I've been in the fitness field for just over
Speaker 3: thirty years, a lot with people with low back issues,
Speaker 3: and I mean with golf gosh, I mean, that's number
Speaker 3: one in terms of injury. So that's helped me work
Speaker 3: with a lot of golfers to get them back out
Speaker 3: on the golf course. And then back in two thousand
Speaker 3: and six went down to the World Golf Fitness Summit
Speaker 3: that was presented by the titleist performance folks Greig Rose
Speaker 3: and Dave Phillips, and the three day workshop was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was one of those wow moments. And
Speaker 3: I think Golf Week magazine even said this now has
Speaker 3: become golf's new obsession, and it basically changed the game overnight,
Speaker 3: and you know, it introduced a whole new spoke of
Speaker 3: the wheels we talked about. And so I came back
Speaker 3: and I run a medical fitness center in North Carolina
Speaker 3: and started a little golf fitness academy and putting some
Speaker 3: of those the things that we learned to practice, and
Speaker 3: I was seeing that these people that were coming through
Speaker 3: the program were coming back with some real positive feedback.
Speaker 3: So I went back and got certified with TPI, and
Speaker 3: I've also have gotten certifications through Flexor, which is a
Speaker 3: neuromuscular type program for golf brain body type connection. And
Speaker 3: then I've also studied a lot of Gary Gray stuff,
Speaker 3: who has now affiliated himself with Nike, and Gary does
Speaker 3: movement science, sees up I believe in Michigan does a
Speaker 3: lot with biomechanics and phenomenal stuff. So I mean, it's
Speaker 3: real good stuff. I love it my passion and I
Speaker 3: just love to see golfers improve. And my biggest thrill
Speaker 3: is getting people back out on the golf course who
Speaker 3: have been injured.
Speaker 1: You brought up lower back issues, and I've talked about that.
Speaker 1: We've talked about TPI a lot. I've actually had many
Speaker 1: TPI instructors from all over the United States on the
Speaker 1: Golf Smarter podcast and just fascinated by what they bring
Speaker 1: to the table. But when you talk about lower back issues,
Speaker 1: I'm someone who has suffered from that and have tried
Speaker 1: to do pilates and yoga, and I do yoga on
Speaker 1: a regular basis. But what I've found personally is that
Speaker 1: my biggest issues are sitting because I basically sit at
Speaker 1: my desk doing computer work all day and sleeping, and
Speaker 1: I have more pain in the morning when I wake
Speaker 1: up before I do my stretching exercises than I do
Speaker 1: it any other time. And also I've noticed that after
Speaker 1: I finished a round of golf, I feel better. It's
Speaker 1: to me, it's it's not golf that's wiping out my back.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not the the left to right lateral
Speaker 1: movement that that's hurting me. It's the you know, the
Speaker 1: bad position in bed and on my chair. And I've
Speaker 1: even spent a lot of money on chairs.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, I mean there's two
Speaker 3: things that general lead up to discomfort or injury, and
Speaker 3: low back is very prevalent obviously across the board. I
Speaker 3: mean with all types of golfers, amateurs, professionals alike, men
Speaker 3: and women, And I mean physically, there are specific deficiencies
Speaker 3: in the muscle groups. Like mostly in guys, it deals
Speaker 3: with tight hamstrings. You know, can you touch your toes
Speaker 3: and if you can't, it means your hamstrings are tight.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the biggest factories that lead up
Speaker 3: to bad backs because of the relationship that the hamstrings
Speaker 3: have to the hip bone, and then how it pulls
Speaker 3: the hip bone out of balance and that causes a
Speaker 3: straightening of the lumbar spine and that puts more pressure
Speaker 3: on the disks and so on and so on and
Speaker 3: so on. And women we tend to see more tightness
Speaker 3: in the hip flexors, which are muscles in the front
Speaker 3: part of the hip, and that kind of does the reverse.
Speaker 3: It pulls the hip forward and causes more arching of
Speaker 3: the lower back. And you see a lot of s
Speaker 3: posture type address positions in women when they're standing over
Speaker 3: the ball. It's more prevalent in women. Those two can
Speaker 3: physically cause problems with the lower back. Now, When you
Speaker 3: combine that with swing faults like reverse spine, like early extension,
Speaker 3: where the hips are moving towards the ball, like s posture,
Speaker 3: as we talked about, that's a perfect storm for back issues.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of interesting how you talked about sitting.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I wrote a whole article and I've got
Speaker 3: this whole workshop about the anatomy of a sitter and
Speaker 3: how sitting impacts your golf game because when you sit,
Speaker 3: the body adapts to the positions that you place it
Speaker 3: in most of the time. And we're seeing a lot
Speaker 3: of sea posture these days, even in younger golfers. I mean,
Speaker 3: it used to be kind of an old golfers disease.
Speaker 3: You know, as you got older, you just tended to
Speaker 3: kind of lose your posture and you got a little
Speaker 3: more bode in the upper back, and so you would
Speaker 3: kind of hunch over the ball. But we're seeing that
Speaker 3: now a lot with younger golfers because of the computer
Speaker 3: and being over the computer all day and when you
Speaker 3: sit over a computer, and the same thing with dentists.
Speaker 3: I mean, all my dentists have ce posture because they're
Speaker 3: hunched over their patients. So what happens there is you
Speaker 3: tighten the muscles in the front part of the body,
Speaker 3: in the chest area. You elongate the muscles in the
Speaker 3: upper back. And when you shorten muscles, you tighten, and
Speaker 3: when you elongate, you weaken, So you start to get
Speaker 3: that rounded shoulder posture and you take that out on
Speaker 3: the golf course. In the lower body, when you sit,
Speaker 3: you basically shorten your hamstrings and you shorten your hip flexers,
Speaker 3: So there's the dynamic two. You also elongate your gluts,
Speaker 3: which are your butt muscles, and that's really where you
Speaker 3: get a lot of power from in the golf swing,
Speaker 3: and you shorten the quad muscles in the front part
Speaker 3: of your thigh. So the fact that you're tightening your
Speaker 3: hip flexers and your and your hamstrings are going to
Speaker 3: set you up anatomically for back issues. And then when
Speaker 3: you go out there and start swinging the golf club,
Speaker 3: you know, in many cases that can add too. In
Speaker 3: your case, it's probably loosening you up. So you're feeling
Speaker 3: a little bit better after the after the golf game,
Speaker 3: but at some point that may come back to bite you.
Speaker 1: Oh it does, it's not. At some point. It's a
Speaker 1: regular thing. I also have noticed that when I remember
Speaker 1: to lower no, to quiet my lower body on my swing,
Speaker 1: because I've I've had an issue with the sway left
Speaker 1: and right sway on my swing. But when I remember
Speaker 1: to quiet my lower body those rounds, I feel much
Speaker 1: better as well than in my back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, talking about Gary Gray, he has
Speaker 3: this thing. A lot of times. We find tightness in
Speaker 3: the mid back and the thoracic spot and the same
Speaker 3: thing again because a lot of people sit and they're
Speaker 3: hunched over stuff or just from inactivity, and when you're
Speaker 3: tight in the mid back, and again I see this
Speaker 3: a lot. What happens is rotation in the upper body
Speaker 3: is supposed to come mainly from the thoracic spine the
Speaker 3: mid back, not the lower back. A lot of people
Speaker 3: think that their rotation is going to come from their
Speaker 3: lower back, and the lower back really is geared more
Speaker 3: for flextion front to back, and it's more geared for stability,
Speaker 3: not mobility. So when your mid back is tight and
Speaker 3: you're bringing the club back, it's only going to go
Speaker 3: back so far. In order for you to get the
Speaker 3: club back further, you're going to have to recruit the
Speaker 3: lower back and again, the lower back just doesn't like that.
Speaker 3: So over time, that's just going to put stress to
Speaker 3: the lower back and that's going to add to the
Speaker 3: issues as well. So that's still a whole nother component
Speaker 3: that you have to consider.
Speaker 1: Sure, very interesting. You tell me about you You said
Speaker 1: articles you you have articles online that you've written about
Speaker 1: these topics.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've put together a kind of an educational golf
Speaker 3: fitness website. So there's a bunch of articles on there,
Speaker 3: again based on my experiences working in the fitness field,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, just the stuff that I've learned
Speaker 3: through TPI and through Gary Gray and through the Flexor program.
Speaker 3: And it's at can I mention the website?
Speaker 1: No, no, don't do that, all right now you can.
Speaker 3: It's the w w W.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. There's no doubt. You don't need that anymore.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Oh you know, yeah, you really don't.
Speaker 3: Golf golffit Carolina dot com. There's one F and one T,
Speaker 3: so it's like golf it Carolina.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm glad you you clarified that. Golfit Carolina le
Speaker 1: f I T Carolina dot com. Okay, golf it Carolina
Speaker 1: dot com. And I will definitely put links in our
Speaker 1: show notes as well, so that people just get into
Speaker 1: golf Smarter dot com and they go right to it,
Speaker 1: or go ahead, go to golf a Carolina dot com.
Speaker 1: Just make sure you say golf it. So the article
Speaker 1: that you wrote that I read that, I just like,
Speaker 1: of course, why aren't we talking about this is about hydration,
Speaker 1: is about making sure that when it's hot outside and
Speaker 1: you're playing, that you take care of yourself. Let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about that for a minute.
Speaker 3: M Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, with the summer here,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the things that a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't think about is the heat and the humidity
Speaker 3: and being down south there. And actually just kind of
Speaker 3: you know, with the PGA event that just took place
Speaker 3: at Kiwa, you know, made me think about what the
Speaker 3: golfers were going to face out there, especially being a
Speaker 3: little further south and you know, in the environment, and
Speaker 3: how much it can take a toll out of your
Speaker 3: game if you're not really prepared to play in that environment.
Speaker 3: So you know, that kind of led me to write
Speaker 3: the article. But it's really key to get yourself to
Speaker 3: acclimate to the weather conditions, whether it be the heat
Speaker 3: and humanity or the cold so that your body can
Speaker 3: function more efficiently, but especially I think in more of
Speaker 3: the warmer environments where it really kind of takes a
Speaker 3: toll and and your golf game can suffer if you
Speaker 3: if you're not prepared to play in those conditions, or
Speaker 3: if you don't kind of plan for you know, keeping
Speaker 3: hydrated and stuff like that. And like I say, you'll suffer,
Speaker 3: not fun.
Speaker 1: No describe suffer. I mean what are we talking about
Speaker 1: here that you're not going to make it through your round?
Speaker 1: Or when you say suffer, what are you thinking of?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean getting into things like you know, heat
Speaker 3: cramps and heat exhaustion and heat stroke. Not fun stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean hydration is key, and even small percentages of
Speaker 3: dehydration can really have an impact on the way you function,
Speaker 3: the muscle contractions, the brain, body nerve pathway and the
Speaker 3: function you know, the way that functions. Uh So, I
Speaker 3: mean hydration is vital when you're out there, especially when
Speaker 3: you're trying to perform an activity, because that what happens
Speaker 3: is it kind of takes the fluid out of the blood,
Speaker 3: and your blood becomes very discussed and then that causes
Speaker 3: your heart to work harder and that can lead to
Speaker 3: some you know, more serious stuff that you don't want
Speaker 3: to have to happen. So it's important to make sure
Speaker 3: that you're drinking water. And really that's that's the best
Speaker 3: thing that you can that you can drink while you're
Speaker 3: outside in an activity is just plain old water. If
Speaker 3: you tend to sweat a lot, you know, that's the
Speaker 3: time to maybe start reaching for an electrolyte replacement drink
Speaker 3: to help get some of the minerals the potassium and
Speaker 3: the magnesium, the calcium and other essential minerals back into
Speaker 3: your system that you're going to lose through your sweat.
Speaker 3: But it can really make or break your game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that for me when I've
Speaker 1: I've had the situation where the wheels fall off the wagon.
Speaker 1: You know, you get to the fifteen sixteenth hole and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, nothing is working and you're starting
Speaker 1: to ache and everything is bad. I've found that when
Speaker 1: I hydrate throughout my round that that happens a lot less.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, you know, when you're out there in
Speaker 3: the heat, the body's trying to dissipate the heat, and
Speaker 3: that's why you sweat. When the humidity is up, and
Speaker 3: when you combine the heat and the humidity, it forms
Speaker 3: the heat index. And I mean you can have kind
Speaker 3: of serious days even when the temperatures are in the
Speaker 3: upper eighties. If the humidity is very high, that can
Speaker 3: raise the heat index to levels that can be somewhat dangerous.
Speaker 3: And what happens is the higher the heat index goes,
Speaker 3: the tougher it is for that sweat to evaporate. And
Speaker 3: when the sweat evaporates, that's when the body kind of
Speaker 3: cools itself. So because that can't happen efficiently, the internal
Speaker 3: body temperature starts to go up, and that's when you
Speaker 3: get into stuff like I say, the heat cramps. And
Speaker 3: at some point, you know, you may even stop sweating
Speaker 3: because the mechanism is shutting down, and you know you can.
Speaker 3: You don't want to even get to that point, and
Speaker 3: that's why it's important to make sure that you start
Speaker 3: drinking early and drink often throughout the round. I mean.
Speaker 3: The other thing that you can also do to prepare
Speaker 3: yourself is nowadays, you know, with the sweat wicking materials
Speaker 3: that are coming out, you know, polyester's making a comeback
Speaker 3: through the sweat wicking apparel, and that helps draw that
Speaker 3: moisture away from the body and helps to dissipate it
Speaker 3: into the environment so that it can keep you cooler
Speaker 3: while you're playing around the golf. So that's definitely an
Speaker 3: advantage that we have nowadays that you know, is popular
Speaker 3: and will probably continue to gain popularity as the science
Speaker 3: gets better in that regards.
Speaker 1: So, even if you do sweat a lot, having the
Speaker 1: sweat stay on your body is bad as opposed to
Speaker 1: it dissipating through the wicking material.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason you sweat is that you want to
Speaker 3: be able to have that sweat evaporate, and when it does,
Speaker 3: it cools the body. Okay, So it does that through
Speaker 3: various processes. You know, the wind. If there's a wind
Speaker 3: that's whipping around, that helps draw heat away from the body.
Speaker 3: The sweat that rating helps draw heat away from the body.
Speaker 3: So if that heat index, especially when the humidity goes
Speaker 3: up and the moisture in the air is higher than
Speaker 3: the moisture on your skin, then the evaporation rate decreases,
Speaker 3: so the sweat basically just stays on your skin instead
Speaker 3: of getting evaporated, and that's when the cooling mechanism tends
Speaker 3: to become compromised to the point where you can get
Speaker 3: into those those heat disorders.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw out a couple words here and
Speaker 1: I'll let you riff on them. Right, I'll just toss
Speaker 1: these out and you give me assessment. Good bad, don't
Speaker 1: do that, try that enhance that. Okay, So you talked
Speaker 1: about water. Okay, yeah, room temperature or iceed.
Speaker 3: They say that the colder the better because it tends
Speaker 3: to get absorbed faster into the gut.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, the electrolyte drinks your favorite.
Speaker 3: I like the electrolyte replacement tablets. There's one out there
Speaker 3: called Noon and Uun. The reason being is that you know,
Speaker 3: the electrolyte drinks are getting better and cutting back on
Speaker 3: the sugar and the calories, but you just don't know
Speaker 3: which ones are. Which the electrolyte tablets are. You buy
Speaker 3: them in a tube and basically they're like alcacelsor you
Speaker 3: buy a sixteen ounce bottle of water and you kind
Speaker 3: of PLoP the tablet into the bottle and it fizzes,
Speaker 3: and they come in different flavors and it gives you
Speaker 3: the electrolyte replacements that the other sports drinks offer, but
Speaker 3: there's only six six or seven calories per tablet, so
Speaker 3: per bottle and no sugar.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great tip, thank you. And you said they
Speaker 1: are flavored. But if you get non flavored because just
Speaker 1: prefer water, do they have them to just don't have
Speaker 1: any impact on the taste.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll find that out. So we're going to google,
Speaker 1: and you you n while you answer my next question.
Speaker 1: And now I'm just throwing softballs at you because I
Speaker 1: have a feeling I know where this one's gonna go. Beer.
Speaker 3: Well, beer is a diuretic, so I mean it's gonna
Speaker 3: help to draw water out of your system. So I mean, again,
Speaker 3: you want to avoid becoming dehydrated. So not a good
Speaker 3: thing to have out in the golf course on a hot,
Speaker 3: humid dig you know, or at least not in excess,
Speaker 3: let's put it that way. But after around they go
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 1: And if you are going to have a beer with
Speaker 1: your buddies while you're playing, mix it up with water,
Speaker 1: do you know one after the other or just try
Speaker 1: to avoid it.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, like if they say everything
Speaker 3: in moderation, uh, you know, some of these guys out
Speaker 3: there that are pounding the beers, especially on the hot,
Speaker 3: humid days. It's probably not a good idea.
Speaker 1: Okay. By the way, uh noon noon, n U U
Speaker 1: N Optimal Hydration their websites down right now, but it
Speaker 1: is at n U U N dot com if anybody
Speaker 1: wants to look, and they have it available at Amazon
Speaker 1: and drugstore dot com. It's all over the place, So
Speaker 1: definitely look into that.
Speaker 3: H Cyclist started that stuff, or I should say it
Speaker 3: started in the cyclists bike bikers now and then then
Speaker 3: it got into runners, and now they're really pushing it
Speaker 3: to golfers. And uh, i'd say, I sweat a lot,
Speaker 3: and so you know, I've tried it, and you know,
Speaker 3: I've felt it really helps, especially like you say, in
Speaker 3: the back nine when when normally you start dragging. Uh,
Speaker 3: it's really helped me stay, you know, in the game.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 3: Nice to come out now with one that also has
Speaker 3: vitamins in it as well. Okay, vitamin waters and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yeah, all right, I'm gonna throw another one. Coffee.
Speaker 3: Coffee also is diuretic, so again it's kind of kind
Speaker 3: of draw water out of the system, so you gotta
Speaker 3: be careful with that I would put that with the
Speaker 3: beer category, you know, in moderation, don't go too crazy
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And and caffeine, I mean, even if you're drinking
Speaker 1: decaf or caffeine. But how about you know, like caffeinated
Speaker 1: sodas coke?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean they're not you know, soda
Speaker 3: is in general, I don't really provide much in terms
Speaker 3: of minerals or vitamins or anything like that. And if
Speaker 3: you enjoy the taste, go for it. You know, there's
Speaker 3: not as much caffeine in those things, so you know,
Speaker 3: if that's what you prefer that.
Speaker 1: And and what about caffeine in it during a round
Speaker 1: of golf? I mean, is it gonna fire you up,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get you going, or is like just no
Speaker 1: impact at all?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Fred, that really depends upon the individual.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: You know some people can can down a gallon of
Speaker 3: coffee and go to sleep, while some people, you know,
Speaker 3: can have a cup of coffee and they'd be up
Speaker 3: all night.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, if I have a cup of coffee
Speaker 1: after ten am, I cannot. I can't go to sleep
Speaker 1: at night. Yeah, I mean I'm a decatch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's gonna it's gonna get the system going.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna get the heart rate up a
Speaker 3: little bit possibly again. And that affects people differently. I
Speaker 3: get heart palpitations if I have too much caffeine, So
Speaker 3: I mean, it does impact people differently. And you just
Speaker 3: got to kind of gauge for yourself, you know, how
Speaker 3: you react to stuff, like, you know, caffeine and beer
Speaker 3: and all that.
Speaker 1: And since we're talking about sweating and oversweating and whatnot,
Speaker 1: I have to throw this one out. I was watching
Speaker 1: the PGA Championship this year online. I was listening to
Speaker 1: their announcers. I wasn't doing it on television, and they
Speaker 1: brought up a tip that I'd never heard and I
Speaker 1: thought was absolutely wonderful and I wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that I share it. And that was towel maintenance during
Speaker 1: your round of golf. Towel towel maintenance. And what they
Speaker 1: were saying is make sure that you use one end
Speaker 1: of the towel for cleaning the ball in your club
Speaker 1: faces and the other end of the towel for wiping
Speaker 1: off your face in your hands.
Speaker 3: That's probably a good idea.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that's so simple. I've
Speaker 1: never even thought about that, and I have many times
Speaker 1: wiped my face with the muddy end of a towel.
Speaker 3: Well, if you're on national TV and you get money
Speaker 3: on your face, that probably wouldn't be too good.
Speaker 1: Big disgrace played all over the place. We will rock
Speaker 1: you mud on your I'm sorry, fascinating stuff. I appreciate
Speaker 1: your time, Bob, and again tell everyone to I will
Speaker 1: do this. Go to golfit Carolina dot com and if
Speaker 1: someone wants to come and see you, where are you specifically?
Speaker 3: I am in Greensboro, North Carolina or high Point, North Carolina,
Speaker 3: and I'm also down in North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
Speaker 3: And I enjoy offering golf fitness seminars to clubs and
Speaker 3: organizations that don't charge anything for him.
Speaker 1: So, oh, it's nice of you.
Speaker 3: If anybody would like to offer.
Speaker 1: Then why am I paying so much to have you
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't know, Just kidding, Bob. I've
Speaker 1: really enjoyed speaking with you, and I've gotten a lot
Speaker 1: of really valuable information. Hopefully someone else has as well.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being on Golf Smarter.
Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate the opportunity anytime.
Speaker 1: Ooh hey, new music. That's right, because in just a
Speaker 1: moment we will bring on Terry Taylor in our inaugural
Speaker 1: score Zone Short Game Academy. But first and now, without
Speaker 1: further ado, i'd like to bring back Terry Taylor, CEO
Speaker 1: of score Golf and known on his blog as the
Speaker 1: Wedge Guy. Welcome to the Short Game Academy, Terry. It
Speaker 1: is great to have you back and to get this
Speaker 1: program started.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 5: It's always fun you're actually addressing a real question from
Speaker 5: a real reader or listener. I write my blog twice
Speaker 5: a week, and sometime quite often I'm making up topics
Speaker 5: just what I think is interesting today. But this is
Speaker 5: fun when somebody has an issue that I can hopefully
Speaker 5: help them through, and then everybody else can learn something too,
Speaker 5: hopefully well.
Speaker 1: And I won't take that personally that my questions aren't
Speaker 1: good enough in the podcast, but that's okay. I like
Speaker 1: get other questions as well because it gives me a
Speaker 1: completely different perspective and I like to hear what people
Speaker 1: are saying. So, just to help set this up and
Speaker 1: let everybody know, if you click on the score Short
Speaker 1: Game Academy button at golfsmarter dot com. You'll be able
Speaker 1: to submit your question to Terry, and then every question
Speaker 1: that comes in I forward to Terry. Terry reviews every question.
Speaker 1: He'll respond to your questions, and if he thinks it's
Speaker 1: appropriate that it's a question that everybody will get something from,
Speaker 1: he'll pick one or two and we'll do them here
Speaker 1: on the Short Game Academy. And if Terry chooses your question,
Speaker 1: and I really have nothing to do with what he's choosing,
Speaker 1: I send them all. If he picks your question, you
Speaker 1: will receive a free I don't want to call it
Speaker 1: a wedge, a scoring club from a score forty one
Speaker 1: to sixty one that'll be customized to your fit. And
Speaker 1: also you'll get a divit tool from golf Smarter so
Speaker 1: that when you more greens, you'll be able to fix
Speaker 1: your marks and become a better golf citizen. So let's
Speaker 1: get right to it and go to our first question
Speaker 1: that you've selected. This one's from John Shields of Davis, California,
Speaker 1: and he says, Terry, I'm a big fan of what
Speaker 1: you're doing over at score and he also comment said
Speaker 1: he's a longtime golf Smarter listener. Thank you, very much, John.
Speaker 1: His question is about the fifty to sixty yard approach shot,
Speaker 1: which is the bane of my existence as well. He says,
Speaker 1: for some reason, this in between distance results in undue
Speaker 1: trepidation for me. Any shorter and I can easily pitch
Speaker 1: or bump up a shot, and longer is an easy
Speaker 1: three quarter wedge, but cannot figure out what the most
Speaker 1: reliable play is from fifty to sixty yards.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a shot that gives everybody a lot of trouble, John,
Speaker 5: That half wedge, the dreaded half wedge, as we call it.
Speaker 5: But there's a way to get around this, and it's
Speaker 5: learning a good technique. You indicated the three quarter wedge
Speaker 5: you're more comfortable with. Golfers should learn is how to
Speaker 5: make a reliable half swing. When I say a half swing,
Speaker 5: what I mean is where your backswing position puts your
Speaker 5: hands roughly about opposite of your of your right armpit,
Speaker 5: so your your left arm is about parallel with the ground.
Speaker 5: It's not further back than that. And your hint, your
Speaker 5: hands do not hinge a lot, just a little bit.
Speaker 5: One of the things I think I mentioned in earlier
Speaker 5: broadcast is really go watch Steve Stricker going on YouTube
Speaker 5: and find videos as Steve Stricker and watch how simple
Speaker 5: his swing is. But your your hands are halfway back
Speaker 5: to halfway through, so your follow through is again your
Speaker 5: hands end up about shoulder high, complete body turn. Take
Speaker 5: your take your sand wedge or your lob wedge, your
Speaker 5: gap wedge, and go out and just practice this half
Speaker 5: swing uh until you get it really grooved. Hit a
Speaker 5: lot of golf balls with this. You can go to
Speaker 5: a ball field or a vacant lot and with your
Speaker 5: own shag bag and do this, But you gotta hit
Speaker 5: a lot of shots to get the feel for this
Speaker 5: half swing where you can rep implicate this reliably. Then
Speaker 5: go through the high loft clubs in your set and
Speaker 5: see what happens with the sixty degree with this half swing,
Speaker 5: what happens with the fifty six or fifty four, you know,
Speaker 5: whatever high loft clubs you're carrying. See what happens and
Speaker 5: how far the ball carries with each of these swings.
Speaker 5: Then you can go out on the golf course. You
Speaker 5: can find out how far it's going to roll out
Speaker 5: with each of these swings, and with three or four
Speaker 5: of your high loft golf clubs and this one swing,
Speaker 5: you'll end up with five or six different shots you
Speaker 5: can hit with reliability and repeatability because you've practiced it
Speaker 5: and you know what that half swing feels like. You
Speaker 5: can even dissect that further if you want, in these
Speaker 5: half swings by gripping down on the club a little further,
Speaker 5: which I talk about in my book The Score Method,
Speaker 5: which is available on score golf dot com for a
Speaker 5: free download of our book called The Score Method, and
Speaker 5: it really dives into the details of using your hand
Speaker 5: position on the grip to change how far the ball
Speaker 5: all will fly. So with your full swing and these
Speaker 5: different hand positions and four or five clubs, you've got
Speaker 5: ten or twelve yardages. With your new half swing that
Speaker 5: you're learning and four or five clubs a couple of
Speaker 5: hand positions, you've got another eight or ten yards, and
Speaker 5: you'll find that you can dissect everything inside full swing,
Speaker 5: pitching wedge down to the grip down half sixty maybe
Speaker 5: a forty yard shot, and you can really dissect the
Speaker 5: golf course. So practice that half swing, learn it, learn it,
Speaker 5: and just memorize it, and then use your different clubs
Speaker 5: with that half swing to get the different yardages you're
Speaker 5: after and.
Speaker 1: Always try to remember too to avoid that opportunity, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, like for me the chess match in golf,
Speaker 1: of playing from the pin backwards, I try to position
Speaker 1: myself so I don't put myself in a fifty to
Speaker 1: sixty yard shot. I really try to avoid that, which
Speaker 1: means don't hit a driver. Fight need to if I
Speaker 1: can get myself, especially with the confidence that I've I've
Speaker 1: gotten using the score forty one sixty one wedges man,
Speaker 1: you put that forty six degree in my hands from
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten yards and I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: going to hit the stick. So especially on a par five,
Speaker 1: if I'm two hundred and fifty out, I know I
Speaker 1: want to go one hundred and forty. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hit it, you know, So I'm fifty yards out
Speaker 1: from the green, I don't want to take a long club.
Speaker 5: That's a very smart strategy for all golfers. If you
Speaker 5: find and I call it the go to shot, and
Speaker 5: it may be that you just have great confidence in
Speaker 5: your gap wedge, or you have great confidence in your
Speaker 5: peak club, but you'll find a yardage that you just
Speaker 5: know poat eighty nine or ninety four or one hundred
Speaker 5: and two or one hundred and ten. This is the
Speaker 5: yardage I feel really confident in. Don't always try to
Speaker 5: hit the ball as close to the green as possible.
Speaker 5: And I mean even a good lesson from the US
Speaker 5: Amateur the other day, and the kid that won hit
Speaker 5: a six iron off the tee on this par four
Speaker 5: on the playoff hole. The other kid hit a driver
Speaker 5: over the green. That was the whole Arnold Palmer drove
Speaker 5: when he won his open there but at Cherry Heels.
Speaker 5: But this kid hit a six iron off the tee
Speaker 5: to like seventy eight yards and he knew that my
Speaker 5: sixty degree wedge and my three quarter swing I'm going
Speaker 5: to be somewhere around the hole, and he hit it
Speaker 5: fifteen feet behind the whole nestles. He had a two
Speaker 5: putt to win, nestled down. Turned out the ball went
Speaker 5: in for birdie. But that's playing smart, that's playing two
Speaker 5: a yard ad. You know, I always tell the story
Speaker 5: about Zach Johnson. He did that at the Masters when
Speaker 5: he won. He played the par fives better than anybody
Speaker 5: and never went for one of them.
Speaker 4: In two.
Speaker 5: Know your game, have your go to shot, and learn
Speaker 5: that halfwage you're going to have that sometime. But if
Speaker 5: that three quarter wedge is a shot, you have a
Speaker 5: lot of confidence in will hit one less club on
Speaker 5: those par fives and leave it back at three quarter range.
Speaker 1: Absolutely interesting. I mentioned my playing with my nephew last
Speaker 1: week a little bit earlier in the show, and he
Speaker 1: is a big hitter. He's been playing all his life
Speaker 1: and is a low double digit handicap and easily can
Speaker 1: drive the ball close to three hundred yards. So we
Speaker 1: had one. But on the way to the golf course,
Speaker 1: he was telling me how how miserable he's become on
Speaker 1: his short short game, the thirty forty yard shots. He
Speaker 1: just he's he has no confidence in it, and so
Speaker 1: he gets all freaked out and he just can't do it.
Speaker 1: And any time he lost his cool that day was
Speaker 1: on a short shot that he screwed up. It's the
Speaker 1: only time he lost it. And at one point there
Speaker 1: was a hole that was three hundred and three yards,
Speaker 1: so he took out his driver. I took out my
Speaker 1: three wood okay, and he put it within fifteen yards
Speaker 1: of the green. He drove it really close. His second
Speaker 1: shot went ten yards and he still wasn't on the
Speaker 1: green because he just and I'm like, so, I said
Speaker 1: to myself, So I don't get it. Why would you
Speaker 1: put yourself in that position? He says, Wait, you gotta
Speaker 1: go for it, don't you. I'm like, okay, never mind.
Speaker 5: I won't get on that soapbucks about the way the
Speaker 5: kids play golf these days, but I see it all
Speaker 5: the time.
Speaker 4: They hit it a mile and shoot eighty five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so this sixty year old man just grills
Speaker 5: them by from forty yards behind him off the tee.
Speaker 5: They don't know how to hit golf shots. But we
Speaker 5: won't go there. We got a question, yeah, answer.
Speaker 1: Right, and we call that golf smarter. We call that
Speaker 1: golf smarter. Okay, that's right, all right. Second question, another
Speaker 1: one from California. Strangely enough that you did that. Did
Speaker 1: you know that you picked two questions from California?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: I didn't until I was just going through all the
Speaker 5: questions and trying to find two that I really thought
Speaker 5: we could really help some the most people with. And
Speaker 5: these two came out. And then I'm looking at him
Speaker 5: and saw, oh, another one from California.
Speaker 1: So well, see how we are here in California.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, we're all troubled, and so I'm trying to help.
Speaker 1: We're troubled here in California. That's what it is. You're
Speaker 1: absolutely right. This one's from Paul Matsuda in Mill Valley,
Speaker 1: and it says more times than I care to remember,
Speaker 1: I've had a good round going and end up in
Speaker 1: a sand trap in less than optimal conditions. Three or
Speaker 1: four strokes later, I'm out of the trap and on
Speaker 1: the green or not. My question is what is the
Speaker 1: best way to play out of wet sand or in
Speaker 1: the case of a course that I play occasionally sand
Speaker 1: that is the consistency of fine gravel, or my worst nightmare,
Speaker 1: a combination of the two. I've tried several techniques, but
Speaker 1: obviously have not stumbled about the right combination. Maybe you
Speaker 1: have his answer.
Speaker 5: Well, Paul, let's start with what we were just talking
Speaker 5: with John. John's question about this half wedge. You've got
Speaker 5: to learn a half wedged swing, and you've got to
Speaker 5: know how to put that club halfway back and how
Speaker 5: to rotate your body and bring it halfway through sand, traps, bunkers, whatever.
Speaker 5: For most of us are much more troublesome. The tour
Speaker 5: player never runs into what you're talking about because their
Speaker 5: bunkers are all held to PGA Tour standards and that's
Speaker 5: why they get to hit those fabulous shots out of
Speaker 5: the bunkers. But the rest of us, you know, the
Speaker 5: sand texture can change from hole to whole, course to course,
Speaker 5: even from one place to another in the bunker, and
Speaker 5: that's the golf that we all plays recreational players. So
Speaker 5: to me, there's there's several keys. When you walk into
Speaker 5: a bunker. The first thing you want to do as
Speaker 5: you walk in with your feet, size up the firmness
Speaker 5: the resistance of that sand. Is this sand gonna gonna
Speaker 5: really kind of eat the golf club a little bit?
Speaker 5: Or is this sand going to play like, you know,
Speaker 5: almost like hardpan. Is it going to play you know,
Speaker 5: much more firm. So the first thing you want to
Speaker 5: do is feel that and get a feel for how
Speaker 5: much resistance that that sand is going to give to
Speaker 5: the golf club in a firm, wet sand situation. I
Speaker 5: like to play that shot almost like it's a little
Speaker 5: pitch out of the hard pan, just you know, don't
Speaker 5: worry about hitting behind the ball a lot, Just hit
Speaker 5: you a nice little soft pitch shot with your highest
Speaker 5: lofted club, the ball is going to come out a
Speaker 5: little hotter as it would off of a tight lie,
Speaker 5: and and you know, just aim for a point a
Speaker 5: little past the flag to allow that this sand, the
Speaker 5: heavier sand, is going to slow your club down a
Speaker 5: little bit. If you get into the fluff of your
Speaker 5: sand or the or the gravel, the fine gravel. A
Speaker 5: lot of times your feet will just really move into
Speaker 5: that gravel and you'll find that there's not a lot
Speaker 5: of resistance here to the golf club. So when that
Speaker 5: club makes contact with the sand on the way down,
Speaker 5: that sand is is not going to reject that club,
Speaker 5: for example, as much as the as the firm sand will.
Speaker 5: So there it's just a bunker shot. It's you know,
Speaker 5: lay the club open, so you increase the bounce of
Speaker 5: the golf club, pick a spot about two inches behind
Speaker 5: the ball, make that half wedge swing, and just float
Speaker 5: the ball out of the bunker. If you are not
Speaker 5: a low single digit or if you are not a
Speaker 5: self proclaimed sand expert, then understand that bunkers are hazards.
Speaker 5: You know, you're not a tour player. The tour players
Speaker 5: get up and down out of bunkers. But bear in mind,
Speaker 5: they spend more time per day in the practice bunker,
Speaker 5: the most recreational golfer spending a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't they also in many cases, don't the tour
Speaker 1: players aim for bunkers to because they're more confident there
Speaker 1: and and it's less trouble for them.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, I mean you know that I don't know
Speaker 5: what's going to happen around the bunker, and you know
Speaker 5: they'll they'll pull the driver on the sharp poar forward
Speaker 5: because they're up and down percentages or I think that
Speaker 5: the last time I looked, if you were a fifty
Speaker 5: percent up and down player out of the bunker, you
Speaker 5: were like ranked one hundred and thirtieth on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 5: So you know, but it's interesting if you go on
Speaker 5: the Buy dot Com Tour. Now, you go to that
Speaker 5: tour and fifty percent up and down percentage ranks you
Speaker 5: about thirtieth. So I mean a real difference between the
Speaker 5: Big Tour and the little tours. It's the quality of
Speaker 5: short game performance. Guys all can hit the ball, but
Speaker 5: you know, when you go into a bunker, Paul, size
Speaker 5: it up and determine what your standards, what your goal
Speaker 5: needs to be. If this is going to be a
Speaker 5: tough bunker shot. Then anywhere on the green is a
Speaker 5: good shot. Forget the flag, play to the safe side
Speaker 5: of the hole, and you know, leave yourself a good
Speaker 5: two put If if you're a good bunker player, you
Speaker 5: got a nice clean line and sand that makes you
Speaker 5: feel confident, then go ahead and take it a little
Speaker 5: more aggressive line to the flag. But you understand, for
Speaker 5: most of us as recreational golfers, I mean, you take
Speaker 5: the average twelve handicap, and I don't ask what any
Speaker 5: of y'all's handicaps are, but a twelve handicapper, if you
Speaker 5: think about it, there are six par holes on the
Speaker 5: golf course and twelve bogie holes, and you just beat
Speaker 5: your handicap. So you know, you don't have to go
Speaker 5: out and make a bunch of pars to shoot eighty
Speaker 5: two or eighty five. Just have to make a handful
Speaker 5: and then not have any blow ups and these three
Speaker 5: or four stroke later things. So if you hit the
Speaker 5: drive in the fairway, back to the program, is golf smarter.
Speaker 5: If you hit the drive in the fairway and hit
Speaker 5: a good approach on the green, this is now a
Speaker 5: par hole, maybe even a birdie. But if you hit
Speaker 5: the drive in the rough, this hole is starting to
Speaker 5: be a Bogie's going to be a good score. If
Speaker 5: you hit the second shot into the bunker, bogie's not
Speaker 5: going to be a bad score at all. So you know,
Speaker 5: adjust your standards as you move from the tee toward
Speaker 5: the hole. Adjust your goals as to what this ought
Speaker 5: to be. I mean, you may be on the shortest
Speaker 5: par five on the golf course, but you know, if
Speaker 5: you hit your drive behind a tree and have to
Speaker 5: pitch out sideways, this complexion of the soul just changed
Speaker 5: a lot. It's now a hard hole because you know
Speaker 5: you've you've had to sacrifice a shot, So all the
Speaker 5: holes are equally difficult. If you hit two really good shots,
Speaker 5: they all play easy, and if you hit two really
Speaker 5: bad shots, they all play hard. It really doesn't matter
Speaker 5: what the handicap ranking on the card is.
Speaker 1: Wait, tell me that one more time. Twelve handicap, six
Speaker 1: par six bogies.
Speaker 5: That's twelve handicaps, six bars and twelve bogies. You know
Speaker 5: that gives you an eighty four and you're hit twelve handicaps,
Speaker 5: going to start moving downward to nine or ten. You
Speaker 5: shoot a bunch of eighty fours. So bear in mind that,
Speaker 5: you know, I mean I talked to a lot of golfers.
Speaker 5: I'd like, you know, I'm a ninety shooter, I'm a
Speaker 5: ninety five shooter. Well, then there are no paroles on
Speaker 5: the golf course for you. I mean, if you make
Speaker 5: a part just like, wow, I stole one. It's kind
Speaker 5: of like the scratch guy making a birdie. You stole
Speaker 5: one there, and you know, but but be realistic about
Speaker 5: your expectations. This is a very hard game. And what
Speaker 5: is it like five percent of the golfers can break
Speaker 5: ninety regularly. So you know, I hear people all the
Speaker 5: times say why I'm not a very good golfer I
Speaker 5: shoot in the eighties? Really, because shooting in the eighties
Speaker 5: is a very good golfer.
Speaker 1: Well, it depends where you're looking from, right, haven't we
Speaker 1: talked about this consistantly.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you used to be a scratch and
Speaker 5: now you're shooting in the eighties, you need to go
Speaker 5: see your golf or your doctor. But you know you
Speaker 5: are your shrink. But you know, I wrote my blog
Speaker 5: this morning about getting the yips and dealing with them,
Speaker 5: so you know it appens to everybody. But I mean
Speaker 5: it's a hard game. I mean, you know, you think
Speaker 5: about it. I mean, Robin Williams gets one of my favorites.
Speaker 5: But yeah, okay, So there's a FOURD a quarter inch
Speaker 5: hole a quarter of a mile down there across the country,
Speaker 5: and I've got this little round white ball and an
Speaker 5: implement poorly suited for striking it, and I'm going to
Speaker 5: put it in that.
Speaker 4: Hole and forward for wax. It's really absurd, but we
Speaker 4: can do it.
Speaker 1: Well. We're not going to quote Robin on that one
Speaker 1: unless you wanted me to bleep it out. I have
Speaker 1: no problem.
Speaker 4: Rob Williams definition take off.
Speaker 1: See this is what the Short Game Academy is all about.
Speaker 1: I love these answers. You know, we talked to PGA
Speaker 1: professionals teaching professionals a lot, and to me, those are
Speaker 1: guys that played golf really well as a kid and
Speaker 1: they wanted to continue to play golf. But you come
Speaker 1: from a different place. You are a club designer. You
Speaker 1: are looking at how am I going to make other
Speaker 1: people better from this design? And so you see things
Speaker 1: like bunker shot and short shots very differently than just
Speaker 1: a teaching pro. And I love your perspective on this,
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm so excited about the Short
Speaker 1: Game Academy.
Speaker 4: Well, and I like it too.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've been writing a blog under the moniker
Speaker 5: the Wedge Guy for five years, anchors five hundred some
Speaker 5: odd articles out there now, and I mean there's a
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of things out there that you
Speaker 5: that your listeners can go dive into. And I like
Speaker 5: sharing my knowledge. Somebody asked me why I gave away
Speaker 5: all this knowledge for free us and because that's the
Speaker 5: way I got everything. I know, somebody was willing to
Speaker 5: give it to me, so, you know, and I boiled
Speaker 5: it around in my head and came out with my
Speaker 5: own take. But we're very focused at score golf. On
Speaker 5: the short game. We're very focused on scoring because very
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, golf is difficult game, but good
Speaker 5: scores are very gratifying, and very few people come off
Speaker 5: the golf course really happy that I hit a lot
Speaker 5: of good shots. I scored miserably, but I'm delighted. I mean,
Speaker 5: we kind of boil it down to the numerical gratification at.
Speaker 4: The end of the day. Was that a number that
Speaker 4: made me happy? You know?
Speaker 5: You see guys in the locker room all times that god,
Speaker 5: I struggled all day to David Man, I can't get
Speaker 5: together and shot in seventy eight or eighty eight or
Speaker 5: ninety eight, whatever your number is. And you look at
Speaker 5: the tour players and you know, you see some of
Speaker 5: those guys that can just band aid it together. They're
Speaker 5: not hitting it well, but they can salvage their round
Speaker 5: because they're good with their scoring clubs. And you know,
Speaker 5: we are very focused on that at score Golf, and
Speaker 5: we know we can help any golfer, regardless of their
Speaker 5: skill level, regardless of their physical strength attributes. We can
Speaker 5: help any golfer become better inside nine iron range. And
Speaker 5: if you can be really good inside nine iron range,
Speaker 5: you can play anybody's golf course. You can score better
Speaker 5: than you ever have because that's where the game is played.
Speaker 1: Bottom line.
Speaker 5: No, I mean it was like never a year ago.
Speaker 5: He hits at three hundred and can't score. He's shooting
Speaker 5: in the mid eighties. If you're hitting at three hundred,
Speaker 5: you ought to be able to just you know, tear
Speaker 5: the golf course apart not shooting the mid eighties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know we talk about being shooting in
Speaker 1: the mid eighties is kind of like being in your sixties.
Speaker 1: To bad golfers, you're really good. And to good golfers, yeah,
Speaker 1: in your eighties you're big. Not that good, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're in your sixties. To old people, you're young.
Speaker 4: Yep, exact people.
Speaker 5: Year old sixty is not years old as it used
Speaker 5: to be, by the way, looking at it from this
Speaker 5: side of sixty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now that we're both in the back nine
Speaker 1: here in our lives.
Speaker 4: You have But thirty six is the new eighteen. Don't
Speaker 4: forget that.
Speaker 1: Oh right, you mean scoring wise or a whole amount
Speaker 1: of holes you play in a day.
Speaker 5: Anyway, big blase is the new okay. So sixty is
Speaker 5: the new forty and age okay, thirty six is the
Speaker 5: new eighteen in golf, and fifty nine is the new
Speaker 5: sixty and scoring clubs.
Speaker 1: There you go, We're all done. That works, hey, John
Speaker 1: and Paul congratulating not of McCartney and Lennon, but congratulations
Speaker 1: John Shields and Paul Matsuda, because you guys have both
Speaker 1: earned the opportunity to get a free score. Not an opportunity,
Speaker 1: you have gotten a score forty one sixty one wedge
Speaker 1: of your choice, customized for you scoring club. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna call a wedge.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna learn it's a scoring bitches. Wedges go in
Speaker 4: the bargain. Been with their Simmon woods.
Speaker 5: There are relics of a bygone era, and I will
Speaker 5: tell y'all all about that if y'all want to read
Speaker 5: about
Speaker 1: All right, wedgesdges