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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. We are on part two of our

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comparison of Footloose and Purple Rain, and we are not

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going to waste any time. Let's dance.

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Speaker 2: This is the sixth episode that we've done so far

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on our summer of nineteen eighty four. It's been amazing

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to go through and just concentrate on one summer.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you saw either one

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of these movies?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw Footloose in the theater.

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Speaker 1: I saw Footloose in the theater.

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Speaker 2: And I think I saw Purple Rain on HBO when

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I didn't have permission to do so.

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Speaker 1: Right, I can remember vividly seeing I didn't see all

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of Purple Rain. But my brother was in high school

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at the time, and he goes over to this friend's

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house that a bunch of high school kids are going

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to watch the VHS copy of this thing, and her

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little brother and I are banished to the upstairs and like, you,

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you know, you guys are too young, you can't watch this.

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And so of course we go upstairs for about seven

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minutes and they're like, let's go sneak downstairs, and so

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we sneak downstairs. We crawl in the dark on our

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hands and knees under the chair that everybody's sitting on.

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You know that somebody's sitting on there in the movie room.

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We sneak up. We see the TV and it is

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the Lake Mini Tanka scene. Well, for starters, you have

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to purify yourself in the water. Is a lake in

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the time, and we get to see Appollonia's boobies and

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we're like, our work here is done. We did not

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watch the rest of the movie. We're just like, let's

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get out of here before we're caught. We've We've gotten

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everything we needed to get for our dar movie.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I'm out of here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jason. Before we get started, we have to acknowledg

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our executive producer. Today we have a new Patreon subscriber

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and he is our executive producer. That is mister Travis Laslie.

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Speaker 2: Travis, thank you so much, man, We really really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys who's communicated to us over

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and over again on Facebook. We love having the conversations

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that we have with our Facebook members. Please, if you

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haven't signed up already, be sure and follow We're like

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our Facebook page so that we can have fun with

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you two minutes speak happy family.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Okay, we got another executive producer this time

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is mister Cameron Eckert, one of my college roommates, Cameron.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. When Cameron was in Egypt's you know, I

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bet you never get tired of hearing that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's heard it before. Cam, Thanks, buddy, appreciate you.

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He and I talk regularly, We go over the episodes

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and he gives me input. Okay, and so I think

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that makes Cameron our first Canadian executive producer who Canadian.

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Speaker 1: A thank you, dear listener. If you want to be

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an executive producer of one of our episodes, all you

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have to do is come to our Patreon page, which

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is patreon dot com slash Shirley Podcast, and you can

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sign up for as little as a cup of coffee,

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probably less than a cup of coffee these days than

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you're staying in Canada.

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Speaker 2: Alright, ey, hey boozer, let's talk about production on these movies.

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So I mean, we might as well jump into the

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Lake Minnetaca scene. Okay, yeah, let's back up just a second. Okay,

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So filming started on purple rain Halloween of nineteen eighty three. Okay,

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the first scene in the movie is actually Prince and

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Apollonia riding around on the motorcycle and you have the

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fall foliage of Minnesota. Funny part about that it snowed

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the next day.

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Speaker 1: Right right. Hearing Apollonia talk about this in various parts,

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the severity of what happened is different, but basically her

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jumping in that water two or three times. Afterwards, like

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she started to black out and the nurse believed she

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was going into hype bathermia. And then apparently she was

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sick for some time and stayed at Prince's house and

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he like made her soup and took care of her

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while she got over the cold or flu or whatever

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pneumonia probably that she had from jumping in this ice

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cold water.

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Speaker 2: The Lake Minnetaka scene if you don't remember, Prince says

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that he won't help her professionally because she couldn't pass initiation,

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and she's like, what are you talking about. He's like,

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you got to purify yourself in the lake Manataka, So

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she strips down and jumps in. Now that was shot

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in Minneapolis. Yes, they realized that they needed some close

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ups and some dialogue that they then later shot in

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La Yes, not so cold over there, a little bit warmer.

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The interesting thing when she stayed at Prince's house, Uh huh,

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she says, Yeah, I slept in his bed and he

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was a perfect gentleman.

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Speaker 1: Nothing happened, which Prince every time?

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Speaker 3: What okay?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, So during the production of Purple Rain, Yes, one

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of the things Prince did to get everybody ready for

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this is he gave everybody had show up and do

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dance lessons in acting class and acting classes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Part of it was to get them better for the movie,

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and part of it was to get everybody in shape.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: But there's one person that constantly skipped.

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Speaker 1: It's who you would expect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He was also high during the filming of this movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Morris, mister Morris day at the time.

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Speaker 1: He's got one of the funniest bits. Like he and

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Jerome have a lot of funny bits. But they do

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this bit that's a very apt and Costello who's on first.

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That's good. I enjoy that bit. They are the comic

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relief of this movie that could be a very heavy

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movie without their comedy In it, but one of the

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important parts of the movie was what are the songs

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that we're going to use? Right? Sure, Prince gives Albert

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Magnoli this huge catalog of music and he's like, okay, well,

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which of these do you want me to use? He

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goes you pick. He's like, oh wow, okay, and so

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he's going through trying to find songs, and then they

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have this event that is now famous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is the first.

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Speaker 1: Time that Wendy Melvoy plays with the Revolution. She starts

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the song and there are three songs from this live

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performance that end up in the album. But one of

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those songs is the song Purple Rain.

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Speaker 2: That concert happened August third, nineteen eighty three. People don't

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realize this. I didn't realize it until I started researching this.

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The recordings of I Would Die for You Baby, I'm

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a Star and Purple Rain are taken from that concert

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in nineteen eighty three. Now they produced them up. They

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add some strings and some things, but those are the

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live recordings from that concert.

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Speaker 1: It was the first time they had ever performed Purple

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Rain live, and it is the version you hear on

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the album. And one of the people in the crowd

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was Albert mcnoley, and he comes to Prince afterward and

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he says, I think that song Purple Rain is the

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key to our movie, and Princess, okay, can we call

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the movie Purple Rain? He says, sure, that sounds Let's

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do it. Not only is it Wendy's first performance with

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the band, but it is the moment that the name

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of the movie and of course the name of the

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album are inspired. I think that that moment was they

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caught lightning in a model as you like to say,

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it was magic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was magic, and it makes for a great

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climactic part of the movie.

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most moving part of the movie is when Prince gives

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homage to his dad and you have the big climax

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of the Purple Rant end of the movie, you actually

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have Purple Rain. And then he goes backstage and the

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crowd is just chanting and Jill is crying, and they

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bring him back and he does I would die for you,

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and Baby, I'm a star.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the interesting thing about this. Okay, Throughout

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the course of Purple Rain, they did such a great

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job of pacing. There is not any ten minute span

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where there is not at least one song except for

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one part. There is a gap of ten minutes and

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in the middle of that there's a sexy all right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the original storyline as Prince had done it. As

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I mentioned before, mom and dad are already dead in

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this murder suicide, and the end of his script ends

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with his suicide, like he dies at the end of

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his storyline, and so that obviously has changed. I think

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largely because of our first time director here, who's like,

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this is not the right story. What you have is

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a guy who wonders, will I turn out like my dad?

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they're critical to the movie because he's realizing that he

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is becoming his dad. He is becoming this violent, abusive boyfriend, right,

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and he doesn't want to. He saves himself from becoming that,

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and that unlocks another key, which is the fact that

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he's this kind of domineering. Your music doesn't matter, Wendy

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and Lisa, Nobody cares about you. I'm the star, I'm

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the key. Well say what you will about Prince and

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his abilities. He did a great job acting in this movie. Yeah,

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he really really did a great job. And from what

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watch it over and over again figure out what his

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mistakes were. And they said, like his improvement was obvious

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from beginning to end on his acting abilities. But then

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he's got this moment that he's got to go crazy

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and tear this stuff up. And that's when he comes

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across his father's music. This is the part that you're

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talking about. Before his dad's were like that. His dad

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you got to write your stuff down. I've got online

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right here. Well then he finds out, well, no, his

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dad has been writing stuff down, and that's he marries

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that with this song that Lisa and Wendy have been

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working on the whole movie, and that is the song

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that we're led to believe, his Purple Rang.

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Speaker 2: It's a great story arc the building of the song

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that the clim access to at the end.

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Speaker 1: So here's the interesting thing that scene where he's talking

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difference between you and me, and You've got to write

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he realizes he's kind of walked into something, so he

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hides behind what he thinks is like safe place just

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so he can listen, and he hears the scene that

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he knows is a conversation that he and his son

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have had. And then when the scene is over, Prince

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is obviously emotional and he walks around the corner right

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into his dad and they have this moment of Wow,

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our life just became a scene in a movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for real, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's really cool.

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The interesting thing about his father and the suicide, the

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studio wasn't comfortable with a murder suicide, or really even

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a suicide. Yeah, and so Albert Magnoly is like, no problem,

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he won't die, right, And I'm like, guy, I mean,

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he stuck a gun to his head and he didn't die.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is that better?

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Speaker 1: He missed?

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Speaker 2: He's allows you shot, Harry, You're alive and you're a

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terrible shot. Okay, did you know that there is another

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sex scene in Purple Rain that has been deleted. Yeah,

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it's the Purple Rain sex scene. Like, you actually got

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some purple rain. It was not at the halftime show

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at the Super Bowl, right right. You have the illusion

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of the rain in the background and maybe some lights

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or something that makes it look purple. But apparently the

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scene was even more awkward and they just it just

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didn't really work. But you can see it at the

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beginning of the Windows Cry video. There's actually a clip

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Speaker 1: Talk about real quick.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the sex scene between Prince and Apollonia. Yes, so

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they shot that scene three different ways. They shot a

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TV version, a PG version, and an R version. We

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get the R version, but it's odd. It's just an

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Speaker 1: Well. I even texted you right after that scene. As

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remember the V grab that happens in this scene.

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Speaker 2: The hands wonder for sure. Yeah, but there's no nudity.

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Speaker 1: Nope, although you can pretty well see through her paintings.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I've got a couple of little interesting tidbits

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on production Purple Range. Okay, so Prince and his good

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buddy Morris Day high school friends and bandmates.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: According to one of the guys in the Time, mister

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Jellybean Johnson, they got in a fistfight on the set

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of Purple Range. Oh so, as you said before, Morris

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Day had a substance abuse problem. He would show up late,

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he would show up not at all, he would not

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go to dance lessons, and just generally be a huge

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pain in the butt to everyone. Prince had enough of

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it one day, and apparently they got into it pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So the scene where the Time is doing jungle Love,

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this is this really a memorable part where the guys

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are dancing like they're up on the balcony and you've

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got them all dancing synchronicity together. Yes. So that dance

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group was known as Game Boys, and they later like

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three of those group of the group members Tony Moseley,

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Kirk Johnson, and Damon Dixon became members of Prince's band,

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The New Power Generation. They're also background dancers on Graffiti Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, not a big, not a big, not so much.

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Morris Day says a total of thirteen words to the kid.

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Yeah you know how many the words the kid says

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to Morris Day, that would be a Goose eggainst zero

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Speaker 1: One More Thing yep.

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Speaker 2: During the production, Albert Magnola comes to Prince and he says, listen,

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I've got this music montage, and I want a song

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that kind of encapsulates all of the drama from the movie,

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just kind of carries us through all the emotions that

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the kid is going through. Right, you got problems with mom,

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You've got problems with dad, You've got problems with your girlfriend,

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you got problems with your band. Can you come up

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with something? So Prince is like, yeah, I think I

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can come up with something. The next Day comes back

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two songs. One of them when does cry.

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Speaker 1: Wow you forgot the bass. We'll get into that when

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we go track by track, So one more thing yep.

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Just before Prince plays beautiful ones when Morris Day is

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trying to pick up Apolonia, remember he leaves the girls

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and he goes and sits down at the table that

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Apollonia is at. Yes, all of his pickup lines are

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paraphrase lines from the Times songs. So Chili saus comes

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from ice Cream, Castle comes from Jungle Love, and the

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bird What time is it? Yeah? That's actually yeah, the

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title of their second album.

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Speaker 2: I heard that Albert Magnoli sat down with Morris Day

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and Jerome and said, all right, guys, here's what the

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script says. Uh huh, Now, how would you say it right?

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And they would say, well, I would say this, you know,

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I would say that that line, how's the family? That's

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More's Day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, let's jump back over to Footloose. You know,

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we talked about casting already, but let's talk about who

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gave the best performance, right, yeah, okay, So we've got

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a lot of incredible actors. So you think Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Bacon good, but I wouldn't say he's the best. John

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Letcott again excellent, but not the best performance.

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Speaker 1: Lori singer, No what who do you have?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: They all did a great job, including Chris Bean, sarahj

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Justica Parker, Dian Weist. They all did a great job.

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But the person who gave the greatest performance in Footlers

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is the kid who falls asleep in church at the

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very beginning. When his dad wakes him up, he looks

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like he wishes he were dead.

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Speaker 1: That was a memorable There's not a better performance. That

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was for real, real stuff.

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Speaker 2: Look I've been in church a lot of times, and

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I guarantee I've looked like that a lot of times too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's let's talk a little bit about

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prep work that these guys did for their acting performances. Okay.

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So Kevin Bacon was twenty four at the time that

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he was going to do this performance, and so he's like,

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am I still in touch with what high schoolers are doing? Right?

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And so he hit up the principle of a local

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high school and said, Hey, I'd like to come, you know,

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check out your high school. And he had this plan that,

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like he was going to be like John Travolta in

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Saturday Night Fever, trying to strut through the place and

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be cool and stuff, and he ended up having an

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experience that was completely different than they expected.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he walked in like mister tough guy and realized

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pretty quickly this is very uncomfortable. So he lowered his eyes,

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lowered his head, tried not to be noticed, and felt

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very alone, isolated, even scared.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was wearing a tie, like a skinny tie

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and literally got made fun of for the skinny tie,

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like the line of the movie hey nice tie. It

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came from that experience, and so it's really truly interesting

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because I think that frames up a much better movie

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if you've got a character who's like kind of happen

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to duck his head and he wants to be cool,

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but he's struggling. I mean, he's struggling throughout the beginning

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of this thing because he's unsure of himself, which would

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make sense. I mean, living with your mom to this

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new place where nobody knows you, and you're getting hassled.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you think you're cool, but nobody else thinks

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you're cool.

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Speaker 1: Right, You're doing the stuff that was cool where you

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were from, but everybody here seems to think that that's

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the devil's music. I know, hey, you know what that

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reminds me too.

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Speaker 2: When they first explained to him that dancing is illegal. Yeah,

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he's like jump back, jump back. That was a term

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that Kevin Bacon actually brought to the script, right, and

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they thought, all right, that's cool enough to leave in.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, okay. So it's interesting because John Lithcow kind

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of did the same thing on his own. So he

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wasn't raised in like a Christian household, It wasn't a

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part of his upbringing, so he wanted to know what

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it was like, and so he called a local minister

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there in the town that they were filming at and

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posed as someone who was having spiritual difficulties and you know,

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I've got questions, can you help me out? And the

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guy was like, oh, of course, and met with him

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and talked with him for hours, and he said, I

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felt like a total snake in the grass because this

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was just the nicest guy, really persuasive about Jesus and

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his love, and it was just like I felt lower

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than low. But again, that's the perfect thing to inform

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his performance for this movie.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that's awesome. That's super fascinating that both

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of those actors would probably have taken their role in

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a different direction had they not done those two things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, so. I can remember as a kid, I

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thought John Lefga's character was just this awful, you know,

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tyrannical human being. But watching as an adult, I'm like, no,

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this guy is the guy who's like, he's trying to

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do his best. He's trying hard to make things right

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and protect his flock because he's lost one of them,

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and the one that he lost was his own kid. Yeah,

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that's a huge that's a huge deal. And so when

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I go back and I look and I'm like, who's

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the hero? Well, you got two. You have two heroes

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in here, two guys who make character shifts. And so

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that Kevin Bacon, going from the guy who's insecure and

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trying his best to you know, be a part of something,

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finds this thing to latch onto, this cause to latch onto,

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and then he gets to stand up and talk in

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front of the entire town. And it's not something you

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can tell, it's not something that he enjoys. As a

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matter of fact, that Kevin Bacon, the actor said, I

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really don't like public speaking, Like it was difficult for

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me to do that scene because I'm not used to

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talking in front of a large group of people like that.

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Speaker 2: He brokes that in hives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I means kind of weird. I mean, he's a

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Broadway actor before this, but I guess, you know, the

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lights are down, you don't see people, you just in

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the moment. But with this one, he's trying to talk

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to an entire crowd of people. And as for a

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lot of folks, it's really intimidating. But he it's because

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of that he gets that character shift where he's like

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he finally gets to pound the table and say this

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is wrong and he stands up for something where he's

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been kind of beat down through the beginning of the episode.

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And then you got John Lithgow who sees, you know,

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he's doing all he can to protect people. He's trying

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to stop what he sees as this menacing thing. But

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then he starts to realize at the book burning right

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after he has this horrible encounter with his daughter in

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the church, he goes because they're burning books in front

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of the library and he sees that his flock has

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taken it too far right. It's like he's like, oh no,

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this is you know, what I meant for good has

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turned into something evil and I've got to I got

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to change my perspective.

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Speaker 2: As that's really interesting that you say that. So for me,

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when you say give me a movie that you had

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one perspective as a young person and that perspective has

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changed over the years. Phillis is my number one example.

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Speaker 2: As a young person, I'm like, let the kids dance, man, absolutely,

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and I still like let the kids dance. But let's

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not forget the pastor. He lost his son in an accident. Yeah,

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and he's lost and he's hurting, and he doesn't want

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to lose his daughter as well. And he's got the

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responsibility of his flock, like you said, and so it's

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complex and he's trying to do the right thing for everyone, right.

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And Ariel is a little bit off the rails and

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she's standing on two racing cars going towards a semi.

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As a father, I would brown upon that behavior, yeah,

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of course.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my daughter will tell you like that because her

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parents were too restrictive.

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Speaker 2: Well, and we all have something to learn.

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Speaker 1: And I mean I can identify with that as how

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I felt when I was a kid too, you know,

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like this is too much. I'm gonna go out and

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I'm gonna do things that are crazy just because I

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need to live life a little bit. Yep.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the scene where Wren goes in front

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of the school board. Yeah, no, it's the public. It's

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the town council.

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Speaker 1: It's the town council, real life, real life Elmore City

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was the school board. By the way, Arla mentioned that

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Larry Current that preacher actually looks like John Witkow.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, that's going to meet that guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Dean Pitchford I listened to the commentary, Dean

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Pitchford said that that scene was originally written as a

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more pound the table type of thing, let us dance,

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this is our moment, we need this, but Kevin Bacon

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pulled back and it gave more gravitas and it was

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more like you could hear a pin drop type of thing.

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And he said that was the right thing, that was

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the right choice for that character.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, the insecurity that you can see and having to

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overcome that made it more compelling.

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Speaker 2: And absolutely and as a church going person, when you

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pull out scripture to aid you in your argument against

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a pastor, it's a little disarming.

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Speaker 1: This powerful moment, A powerful moment, okay. And I want

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to say one of the things is when I hadn't

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brought Arlen up. So just a couple of other little stories.

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He says he can remember there were some guys who

474
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,119
were trying to break dance behind the school and cop

475
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,200
came and told him if they didn't stop that they'd

476
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,480
get arrested. Now keep in mind he's younger, like he's

477
00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:41,319
he graduated in the late eighties, but this law was

478
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,000
still a law up until nineteen ninety two in Elmore City. Wow,

479
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:49,759
I mean that's twelve years after they have their first prom.

480
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,640
Finally they changed the law to allow for public dancing.

481
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,240
He said. It was actually the second time that those

482
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,839
guys had gotten caught. The first time they got caught

483
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,559
was by the shop teacher and he just wailed on

484
00:23:58,599 --> 00:24:01,640
him with a paddle old school.

485
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:07,319
Speaker 2: Which again, right, that's awesome. Hey, you guys, break it up,

486
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,119
no more breakdancing. Back here and get the paddle out,

487
00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:13,519
grab your ankles. So Kevin Bacon had to do some dancing.

488
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,480
He had to do some gymnastics. He actually said that

489
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:18,759
during the rage dance. Okay, let's let's talk about the

490
00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:29,640
rage dance for a second. So Ren finally gets tired

491
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,279
of it. He's had enough, so he goes to this

492
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,720
warehouse and he rage dances right, and he smokes and

493
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,519
he drinks and he dances right. This is the Rebellious Act.

494
00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,279
And it's a little bit it's I mean, it's a

495
00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:40,039
lot corny.

496
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: And so like cheet, but the music is great and

497
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,359
so we go along with absolutely.

498
00:24:44,559 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: But during that scene, I think there were five total

499
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,079
people involved, including Kevin Bacon. So you have a gymnast,

500
00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,079
you have like a ballet dancer, you have Kevin Bacon,

501
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,119
you have a dance and so there's five people involved

502
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,799
in that scene. And Kevin Bacon wanted to do it

503
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:04,200
all himself, and they had to kind of say, Nick

504
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,000
and Kevin.

505
00:25:05,079 --> 00:25:07,079
Speaker 1: You're pretty good at a bunch.

506
00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,599
Speaker 2: Of things, but this isn't what we want.

507
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,079
Speaker 1: So let's go someplace dark and put your face in

508
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:14,880
the shadow. That's it, and by your face with me.

509
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: The other guy, one of the guys was Chuck Gaylord,

510
00:25:19,599 --> 00:25:22,799
who is Mitch Gaylord's brother, Mitch Gaylord being the Olympic

511
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,799
like nineteen eighty four Olympic gymnasts starred in the movie

512
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,799
American Anthem nineteen eighty six.

513
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,759
Speaker 1: Wow looking shoot with your knowledge that boom.

514
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,319
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the tractor scene.

515
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:53,039
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, you have read on a tractor.

516
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: He has no idea how to drive a tractor, and

517
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,440
they give him the crash course of like, okay, here's

518
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,400
the clatcher's steering.

519
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,079
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great scene where Chris pen keeps repeating

520
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,279
everything that the other guy is saying. It's hysterical.

521
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:05,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a clutch.

522
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a clutch.

523
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

524
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: And his shoelace gets caught on the accelerator.

525
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 3: Right.

526
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this movie is rebel without a cause, except

527
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,960
that he has a cause now right. It is a

528
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,960
throwback to the old James Dean thing. And of course,

529
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,359
just like the old James Dean thing, they've they've got

530
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,920
a race, a chicken race, right, and so you've got

531
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,200
this awesome moment where it's if anybody studied game theory,

532
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,119
this is a really interesting kind of dynamic that you

533
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,640
got to look at because somebody's got to give. Somebody

534
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,839
has to give in this game, and it turns out

535
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,839
Rin is the one that gives.

536
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: Rain tries to give about ten dimes.

537
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gives like ten seconds in. Yeah, okay, that

538
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:45,720
guy's like one hundred feet from me. So I'm gonna

539
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,279
go ahead and oh shoot my footstock. Yeah, my shoelace

540
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:49,880
is stuck.

541
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: Around the acceler and then he finally is like, okay,

542
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,440
here it comes.

543
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: I can't get off, and so now my only option

544
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,599
is to just keep going forward and not like go

545
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,440
off the end of the ditch. And I wondered because,

546
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,079
like before when I had watched it, him, like how

547
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,000
does he get a shoelace off so easily? Afterwards, when

548
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,799
he finally stops and it starts again, and it stops again,

549
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,640
you can see him yank his foot really hard. I

550
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,079
can give that up as he's just finally like I'm

551
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,079
ripping this thing off, and then he starts cheering like

552
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,640
he's the hero and didn't Yeah, holding out.

553
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:24,759
Speaker 2: For the Hero, And you overlay it with the great

554
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:26,599
Bonnie Tyler song holding Out for a Hero.

555
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: It is a great scene.

556
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: It's funny, it's entertaining, and it's thrilling.

557
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:50,319
Speaker 1: Totally, totally great scene, one of the best of the movie.

558
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,799
Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know if we talked about this.

559
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,079
All this was filmed in Utah.

560
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to Kevin Bacon went to a high

561
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:58,920
school in Utah. John Lyndgusov preacher in Utah, and the

562
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,720
tractor race was in Utah.

563
00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Utah County, Utah. It's like the heart of Utah.

564
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,279
And when they talked to Herbert Ross, Dean Pitchford was like, well,

565
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,279
I was kind of thinking like the wheat fields of Oklahoma,

566
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,359
and Herbert Ross is like, listen, trust me. When there's

567
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,480
nothing on the screen, but there's mountains in the background,

568
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,880
it's more interesting to look out. Just just go with

569
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,720
me on this. And they're like, okay, yeah.

570
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:24,599
Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot beat the wheat fields in northern Oklahoma.

571
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:28,599
Whenever it's June harvest time, it's wonderful. It's like golden

572
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,680
oceans out there. But that's only for about a month

573
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,119
out of the year. Yeah, so not a good time

574
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,759
to try to do that.

575
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: One more thing, I wanted to talk about the dance

576
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:51,480
montage with Kevin Bacon and Chris Penn where he's teaching

577
00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:54,960
him how to dance. So there's this whole dance montage

578
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,319
set to Let's Hear It for the Boy by the

579
00:28:57,359 --> 00:29:00,920
Denise Williams, and Kevin Bacon is taking Crispin under his

580
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,720
wing and he's teaching him how to dance in preparation

581
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,359
for the prom It's interesting because they scattered around and

582
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,599
it's it's in the gym, it's at farm, it's in

583
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,359
the fields, it's at the football field.

584
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: It's all over the cars.

585
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:15,039
Speaker 5: Right.

586
00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: So what they did was while they were filming it,

587
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,559
the last scene of every day on the shooting schedule

588
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:36,759
was the dance scene, and so Kevin Bacon and Crispan

589
00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,000
would dance. Here's the interesting thing. The song that they

590
00:29:40,079 --> 00:29:42,880
had was not Let's Hear It for the Boy. It

591
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,680
was one of the original songs that they have, which

592
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200
we'll talk about when we go track by track next week.

593
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,400
But when they would do their dancing the last scene

594
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680
of every day, and then they cobbled this montage together.

595
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:56,039
And that's why it's really cool to see a ton

596
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:57,839
of different locations and they're dancing.

597
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,119
Speaker 1: Sounds great. Okay, let's jump back over to the performances

598
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:11,960
in Purple Range. Okay, we talked before all of the

599
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:14,960
characters were pretty much I mean they were based on

600
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,799
their real life counterparts, right right. But you've got one

601
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,519
critical character that is an actor that came from the

602
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,960
mod squad, Clarence Williams the third He is a guy

603
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,279
who is a driving force through this whole movie, right right,

604
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:35,079
So it's not a complicated script, right, it's boy meets girl,

605
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:40,200
Boy loses girl, Boy realizes that he's enacting the abusive

606
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,079
behavior of his father and mother and realizes he should change,

607
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,640
and then also realizes that he's got this commonality with

608
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,880
his father. Boy gets girl back, Boy.

609
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: Plays amazing song. Win's girl back. That's right, right.

610
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,759
Speaker 1: So at that point, you know the scene where he's

611
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:00,240
talking to Prince and he's at he talked to the

612
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,079
kid and he's at the end of his rope and

613
00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:05,400
he asked him about having a girlfriend. Yeah, and he's

614
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,079
like lover. He's like, you know, I don't know yet, right,

615
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,039
and he's like, don't ever get married. Was so powerful

616
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,119
that Albert Magnoli said they wept as they watched them

617
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:20,160
perform the scene. Strong, strong performance. And then again, the

618
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,000
reason I say he's the driving force is because of

619
00:31:23,119 --> 00:31:26,119
that change that has to occur in the kid like

620
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,039
he's doesn't want to be like his father, he doesn't

621
00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:31,319
want to be like his mother. But then he as

622
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:35,079
time goes on, he sees himself becoming them, which I

623
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,920
think was the idea from the beginning, when Prince first

624
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,240
wrote these words down on notebook paper. That was the

625
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,559
whole notion, was that he had become his mother and

626
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,680
had become his father, and that's why he wanted to

627
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,960
play those parts himself in flashback scenes. But obviously the

628
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,559
way they did it was much better than that idea.

629
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,200
But he's got to make that change. Did I tell

630
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,720
you that like the end of the movie that Prince wrote,

631
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,839
he commits suicide, Like that's the end of that movie,

632
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,240
Like he puts in his mom's ear rings and he

633
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,000
goes ahead and commits suicide. So thank goodness that they

634
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,920
didn't do it that way. This was not this could

635
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,640
not be a downer movie with the music that you have.

636
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,079
Speaker 2: No, no, they thank you for not making that choice.

637
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: Right.

638
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,559
Speaker 2: By the way, that advice don't ever get married, Yeah,

639
00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:22,559
that's actual advice from Prince's dad to Prince as a

640
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:23,079
young man.

641
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,839
Speaker 1: It is very biographical this movie. Yep. Yeah.

642
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,359
Speaker 2: By the way. I don't know if you know this,

643
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,559
and I don't want to get too much into music.

644
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:34,680
We're talking pretty strictly about movie. But when Prince and

645
00:32:34,759 --> 00:32:38,319
Albert Magnoli were working on Purple Rain, Prince gave him

646
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,240
one hundred songs to choose. From one of those songs

647
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,599
that was not in that hundred Purple Rain, right, another

648
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:44,759
one win dubscry right.

649
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,039
Speaker 1: All of I mean, those two and one other that

650
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,240
made it onto the soundtrack all came through the live

651
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,640
performance in nineteen eighty three. It went third nineteen eighty three,

652
00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:57,599
Wendy Melvoin's first performance. It was, like I said, last time.

653
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:00,400
Albert was in the crowd when they did that performs

654
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,960
and when he heard Purple Rain, that was what made

655
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,920
him go to him and say, I would really like

656
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,079
to make this the key song in the movie. It's

657
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,960
so powerful, And Prince said, can we name the movie

658
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Purple Rain? Sounds great, Let's do it, And what a

659
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,839
great name. It's great, that's great.

660
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: The scene where Prince's dad is playing the piano, yep,

661
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,200
and he they're having this discussion about that's the difference

662
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,079
between you and me. I don't have to write my

663
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,079
songs down that piano piece of piano music, it's actually

664
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,319
being played by Prince.

665
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,079
Speaker 1: Right, and it ends up in one of Prince's songs.

666
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:32,759
Speaker 2: It's like it's on computer blue.

667
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: It's so hard not to talk about the music on

668
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,440
the movie is all about the music.

669
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:38,359
Speaker 2: I know, I know. Did you know that Purple Rain

670
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,160
was selected for preservation in the National Film Registry by

671
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,640
the Library of Congress.

672
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,039
Speaker 1: Well, it's an incredible move.

673
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: We will get into that. We will get into that.

674
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,240
You know who the only guy who doesn't speak in

675
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:53,400
the movie from the Revolution?

676
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,519
Speaker 1: Is it Mark Brown? Mark Brown Brown Mark.

677
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: What an unfortunate nickname.

678
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrible.

679
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: So let's move on to the reception and the success

680
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:05,039
of these movies.

681
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,519
Speaker 1: Right, So both of these movies, the album came out

682
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:10,000
before the movie, right.

683
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: And that's huge, particularly in Purple Rain's instance.

684
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,679
Speaker 1: I would say it's huge in Footloose's instance as well, Okay,

685
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:20,800
because I mean, if you don't know those songs already,

686
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,159
there are new songs when you're watching a movie and

687
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,320
they're not as impactful.

688
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,079
Speaker 2: Well, that's true Footloose.

689
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,599
Speaker 1: The album did so well that people would buy the

690
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,719
album having never seen the movie before the fact that

691
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,719
it was getting played on the radio had a huge imbo.

692
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,559
I mean, just like we talked about with Huey Lewis,

693
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,519
Power of Love was the number one song the week

694
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,239
that Back to the Future came out. The very first

695
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,239
cool scene that we see is him skateboarding behind the

696
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,000
cars and that music is what's playing in the background.

697
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,639
And so it's perfect that the album comes out before

698
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,639
and everybody's familiar with these and they are dancing along

699
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:55,320
with those guys.

700
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the original ending of Phittlos before we

701
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,000
oh yeah, okay, we kind of this goes a long

702
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:02,119
with what you were talking about this success. The original

703
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,159
ending was they got the council to agree to let

704
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,559
them have a dance. Yes, And the director, his quote was,

705
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,199
if you spin the whole movie trying to get the car,

706
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,320
when they give you the keys to the car, you

707
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,360
actually possess the car, right, and that's the end of

708
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,000
the story. So they screened it with basically they arrive

709
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,639
at the prom and that's the end, right.

710
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,079
Speaker 1: Yeah.

711
00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: So Dean Pitchford says, guys, I think we need to

712
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,519
add a song here and let them dance and let

713
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:33,599
the audience participate in the dance absolutely, And so when

714
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:36,639
they originally screened it with the just arriving at the

715
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:39,280
prom and that's the end of the movie, audiences did

716
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,559
not like the movie. But you throw in the Kenny

717
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:45,199
Loggins go Crazy footloose song, and you have the break dancers,

718
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,880
and you have Kevin Bacon come in, Let's dance and

719
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,559
they dance, and you have the credits and all that stuff.

720
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:59,519
A little bit, but it went from a movie that

721
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:02,480
was this liked to a movie that was a huge

722
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960
smash because the audience wanted to party with the cast.

723
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:07,679
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you said, if you're spinning the

724
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:09,559
whole movie trying to get the car and you end

725
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,760
with them getting the keys, the audience is like going

726
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,719
to be what, where's the car?

727
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: I want to see the car. I want in the car.

728
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of the whole movie. And you

729
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,639
also had to have some sort of resolution with the bullies, right.

730
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trick's boyfriend.

731
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: You had to have some sort of resolution, and they

732
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,880
chose to have a parking lot brawl out of it.

733
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880
I think that's great. Let's kick a little, but let's

734
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,639
get these guys out of here. Let's do a big

735
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,000
karate kick to the face and then let's go dance.

736
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:43,880
That's it, Let's dance. Side note. Elmore city first prom

737
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,719
theme was Stairway to Heaven.

738
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,199
Speaker 2: Nice.

739
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any break dancing going on.

740
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,239
I don't think breakdancing was a thing yet in nineteen eighty.

741
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,480
I think it was like eighty two that breakdancing really started.

742
00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: That's the type of information you get here at the Shirley.

743
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,679
Can't be serious there you go nowhere else will you

744
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,840
find that information? Yes, all right, let's flip back to

745
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,679
Purple rainka reception. Here is where the match hits the

746
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,199
fuse of the megaton bomb that becomes purple Rain, so

747
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,719
you have win. Doves Cry is released as a single

748
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,360
and a video May sixteenth and nineteen eighty four, and

749
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
I can tell you from experience it was the song

750
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,280
of the Summer of eighty four. The album drops a

751
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,840
month and a half later June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty four,

752
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,199
and then on July sixteenth, nineteen eighty four, Wind Doves

753
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,239
Cry is the number one song in the country. That's

754
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,920
when they released Let's Go Crazy July sixteen, and then

755
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,519
the movie drops July twenty seventh, nineteen eighty two.

756
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Then they have the Hollywood premiere of the movie. Everyone

757
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:38,239
shows up.

758
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,039
Speaker 2: It's crazy, like it's a.

759
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: Red carpet event. You've got Eddie Murphy, You've got Prince

760
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:50,639
and all his purple wonderfulness. It is a huge, huge event.

761
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: It is it is. Let me back up a second.

762
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,519
I got a little bit ahead of myself.

763
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

764
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: So when they finished the movie, they screened it for

765
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,519
Warner Brothers. They showed it after the first screening, everybody

766
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,000
thought it was a dud zoinks what So Magnoli said, listen,

767
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:11,159
this movie's going to do forty million dollars. Don't kill

768
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,920
this movie. If you do, it will be a travesty

769
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,920
against art. Let this movie live. And he kind of

770
00:38:17,039 --> 00:38:19,199
had that pounding thing. He said, here's what you do.

771
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,400
Here's your marketing campaign. You put an ad in every

772
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,800
paper saying Warner Brothers presents prints in his first motion picture,

773
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,280
Purple Rain, in every major city that has a black community.

774
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,199
They test it in Culver City, California. The numbers were

775
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,840
so far through the roof that they accused the producer

776
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,639
of stacking the deck. They're like, this is bogus, this

777
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,360
is bull You called all your friends. So what we're

778
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,559
going to do is we're going to screen it two

779
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,159
other places, and we're not going to tell you where

780
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:46,599
we're going to do it. So they screened it in

781
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:50,280
Denver and in San Diego, and the same thing happened.

782
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,559
Speaker 1: Numbers through the roof.

783
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: They had to show up multiple times because people would

784
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,079
come back and want to watch it again. Yeah, and

785
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:58,440
so they were like, well, this is crazy, we don't

786
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,159
get it, but it's it's on fire, right. So that's

787
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,480
when they decided. One of brothers decided to put on

788
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:07,360
nine hundred screens worldwide and it made close to seventy

789
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,599
million dollars that summer.

790
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,639
Speaker 1: That's awesome, by.

791
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,599
Speaker 2: The way, if you get a chance to go back

792
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:15,039
and look at that MTV premiere, yeah, it's super cool.

793
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,599
Speaker 1: All right. So normally this is the point where we

794
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:19,480
would go into the soundtracks of the movie.

795
00:39:19,559 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Man.

796
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,559
Speaker 2: I'm ready to talk music.

797
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: Next week. No, these two albums are too big to

798
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,559
make a single part of some other show. You've got

799
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:39,400
to come back. We will talk Footloose next week. We

800
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,320
will talk Purple Rain the album the week after that,

801
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,639
and then we will give you our final judgment. What's

802
00:39:44,679 --> 00:39:46,360
the best movie, what's the best out.

803
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing.

804
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna go track by track. You're gonna learn things

805
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,440
about these songs that you never knew.

806
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: Come back next.

807
00:39:52,079 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 5: Week, mister, do you like what you pass back? I

808
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:05,440
got no mone

