WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:01.600 Today, I want to tell you about a journey that 2 00:00:01.600 --> 00:00:03.879 I've been on for most of my life. Ever since 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:05.799 I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and 4 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:08.320 wild men while spending time with my friends and family. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.439 As I grew older and read more about the paranormal, 6 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:14.679 my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened. 7 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:17.160 That's why I'm so excited to share with you what 8 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:21.640 I've personally become involved with the Untold Radio Network. The 9 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.280 Untold Radio Network is a live streaming podcast network that 10 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:29.359 airs a new show every day across all podcast platforms, YouTube, 11 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:32.119 and more. 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It's free to subscribe. 21 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 So what are you waiting for visit www dot untold 22 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.560 radionetwork dot com today. 23 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:09.680 Now, what are your reporting? I got a string going 24 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.120 on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to 25 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.280 kill your dog, my dog. We're flying through there, over 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:20.079 the tree. I don't know how it did it? Okay, Damn, 27 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:22.640 I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming 28 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.480 over the fence, and name was dead once you hit 29 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:26.560 the grill. I didn't see any cars. All I saw 30 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:45.120 was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what are 31 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:49.959 you reporting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 32 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:58.640 out here? Did you see what it was? It was 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.480 enough out here. Look, I'm new to window now and 34 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:08.759 I don't need anything. I don't want to go outside. Hello, 35 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.120 hit the buddy out here, quin On Alter, I thought 36 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:15.960 of a bitch about tech for nine. I don't know you. 37 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:16.680 I am Alter. 38 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:18.240 Yeah, I'm walking right heady. 39 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.639 Welcome our guest to the show. It is my friend 40 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:24.680 Gwen from Pennsylvania. Welcome to the show. 41 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.240 Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here. 42 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.960 I have been waiting with baited breath all day to 43 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:33.439 talk to you. We talk all the time, but not 44 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:34.240 on the shows. 45 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:35.599 I feel like this is the big time. 46 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:37.840 Now you have made it to the big time. I 47 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.599 am a legend in my own mind when it comes 48 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.680 for a legends, when it comes to the podcasting world, 49 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:46.319 I am a legend in my own mind. But in 50 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:49.199 all seriousness, we are friends. We have had a blast 51 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:51.520 hanging out together in the UK A couple of months ago. 52 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:53.479 We both spoke at the conference over there and I 53 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.000 got to hang out with you and your amazing husband Mike. 54 00:02:56.639 --> 00:02:58.759 You guys chauffeured me around. You put up with me 55 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.639 and Daniel for what was it like four days or so. 56 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:03.840 It seemed like forever We've known each other. 57 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:04.599 But here we are. 58 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.560 You're on the show. Let's start with a couple of things. 59 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.439 I want to start number one first and foremost with 60 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:12.719 what gat you interested in Bigfoot? 61 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:14.599 To begin with, I will. 62 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:18.520 Tell you that prior to Bigfoot, I was a paranormal 63 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:23.000 investigator and Bigfoot was nowhere on my radar whatsoever. Honestly, 64 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:26.479 if you would have asked me four years ago about Bigfoot, 65 00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:28.680 I would have been like, yes, if they find it, whatever, 66 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:32.080 if they don't, whatever. Been one day in February twenty 67 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:34.479 twenty one, he walked into my life. 68 00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:37.719 We'll definitely get there. That was a teaser, for sure. 69 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.240 We'll definitely get to that. Let's talk a little bit 70 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:43.680 about your paranormal stuff. What gat you interested in the paranormal. 71 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:45.680 Did you have experiences as a kid, Because I grew 72 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:47.719 up in some haunted houses and had some weird ass 73 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:49.879 things happened to me as a child, and I've always 74 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.479 been interested in the paranormal. Ghost I've done my own 75 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.039 little ghost hunts in the past. I've caught some EVPs 76 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.439 and interesting things, but Bigfoot, buy and large has always 77 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:01.479 been number one for me. Talk a little bit about 78 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:04.319 some of the experiences you had in the paranormal realm 79 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:07.159 and what got you interested in doing those kind of investigations. 80 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:10.560 One of the earliest memories I have is of a 81 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.479 guy standing in our living room and he never had 82 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:16.920 a face. He was always dressed in black, like a suit, 83 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:20.560 and he had a hat on. Infamous hat man, if 84 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:23.360 that's what you want to call him. But he always 85 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:25.439 stood in our living room, but at different times. He 86 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:27.360 would be here one time, and then the next time 87 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:29.600 he'd be over here. But all he did was just 88 00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:33.319 stand there. I remember it like it was yesterday, and 89 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.759 I never thought to say anything, because I just assumed 90 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:38.959 everybody saw the guy standing in the living room. It 91 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:41.240 wasn't until recently that my mom was like, why didn't 92 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:43.079 you ever tell me about that? And like, oh, I 93 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.399 was like four or five years old. There was just 94 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.439 some weird guys in the living room. Everywhere I've lived, 95 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:53.399 I've had some kind of experience with an entity. I've 96 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:56.120 seen a full body operation of a woman in a 97 00:04:56.160 --> 00:04:58.959 house that an X and I bought on a foreclosure. 98 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.519 He liked to scare the shit out of me, and 99 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:05.160 she did a really night. She was a little creepy. 100 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.480 I don't know if they follow me from house to 101 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:12.680 house or if I'm just extra sensitive to what's in 102 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.680 a house, but every house I've lived in has had 103 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:21.639 something happen. Currently, we live in a house with four ghosts. 104 00:05:21.879 --> 00:05:24.560 There's one in our garage. She's not very nice. She's 105 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.480 pushed me down the stairs multiple times. I moved my 106 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.920 office inside the house. I don't have to deal with 107 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:30.639 her very often. 108 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:31.720 I can definitely relate. 109 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:33.800 When I first got into Bigfoot and started doing the 110 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:35.720 show and I was interviewing people, I used to say 111 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.319 all the time that I can handle somebody have in 112 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.480 a Bigfoot experience. But when you talk to people and 113 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.759 they've had every kind of experience, you say, oh, have 114 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:44.040 you ever had a paranormal experience? 115 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:44.160 Oh? 116 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.279 Yeah, see ghosts all the time. What about UFOs? Oh yeah, 117 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.040 I've been abducted by aliens? What about Bigfoot? 118 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:50.360 Yeah? 119 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:53.240 See Bigfoot quite often. I've had four experience And I'm like, 120 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:56.680 that's a little out there for me. You say, how 121 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.800 can anybody have all of those experiences? And it dawned 122 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:02.040 on me recently. I was having a conversation. I think 123 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:05.399 I was a guest on another podcast. I had this epiphany, 124 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.120 I am that guy because I've had experiences with ghosts 125 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.800 and poultry geist activity, demonic possession I believe, and demonic 126 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.600 entities in our house that we lived in when I 127 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:19.279 was a kid. I've had multiple UFO experiences. Never been 128 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.199 abducted that I know of. Still looking for the probes. 129 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.279 If there's any probes in there, I'll let you guys know. 130 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.560 But I'm not thinking I've been abducted. But I've had 131 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:30.439 multiple experiences where I've seen these things. Now, I've had 132 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.680 multiple experiences with Bigfoot, and we have weird shit going 133 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.879 on here on the property all the time with lights 134 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.319 and weird things happening outside of the bigfoot stuff. I'm 135 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.439 right there with you. This is a conversation I've had 136 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.519 with people recently. People have asked me, do I think 137 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.240 that people who have an experience like you did when 138 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:51.959 you were younger, does that make you more susceptible experiences 139 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:56.519 with other things later in life? Does it make you marked? 140 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.079 Are you marked as a person to have those experiences? 141 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.319 To that was I think that would mean there was 142 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.079 something more woo and high strangeness that would connect all 143 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:09.199 of that From me. I think if you have those 144 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.879 kind of experiences, whether it's early on or just multiple 145 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:14.600 experiences over the course of your life, you tend to 146 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:19.000 be more open to acknowledging those experiences and then. 147 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:19.839 Looking for stuff. 148 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:21.920 I literally tell people all the time I've had the 149 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:26.000 UFO experiences I've had because I was looking up. Had 150 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:28.680 been looking up, I wouldn't have seen any of the 151 00:07:28.759 --> 00:07:31.720 UFOs that I've seen in my lifetime. Most people aren't. 152 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.879 If I'm not driving down the road, if I'm riding 153 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.439 in a car, I'm typically looking up in the sky 154 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:38.839 just because that's something to do. So I've had those 155 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:42.160 experiences because I'm looking for those things. Same thing with Bigfoot. 156 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:43.959 I go out in the woods and I look for 157 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.600 sign absolutely, and then you have experiences because of that. 158 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:50.920 Do you think it's more of a high strangeness connection 159 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:54.120 that pulls all this together and everything is somehow connected, 160 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:56.439 or do you think it's just happenstance and you just 161 00:07:56.480 --> 00:07:59.079 happen to be more in tune with your surroundings because 162 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.879 you've had those kind of before in life. 163 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.879 Before Bigbut I would have said that, I'm just I 164 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.240 don't know. I think I'm like you paying attention. For example, 165 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:12.120 I moved in with Mike back in twenty seventeen. Things 166 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:15.279 started happening almost as soon as I walked in the house. 167 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.560 He'd be like, I never noticed anything like that before 168 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:21.120 you moved in. He's made those comment, I never noticed 169 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.639 anything before you moved in, And I'm like, is it 170 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:27.240 because he wasn't looking? Were things happening and he just 171 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.680 wasn't tuned into it? And I am, I don't know. 172 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:34.919 Somebody was on Facebook kind of trashing Ron moorehead and 173 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:37.840 if I really sit down and think about, okay, quantum 174 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.720 theory stuff is like above a lot of people's heads 175 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:44.879 and it's a lot to digest. But at the same token, 176 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.120 if you can believe that a ghost or a spirit 177 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:50.960 can come in and out of a room, could see 178 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.600 an apparition here one second and the next second she's gone. 179 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.000 Where did she go? If you have that belief and 180 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:00.000 the paranormal, it's really not that far of a stress 181 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:04.120 to be like, Okay, I don't know how ghosts do 182 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.559 what they do. Is it a dimensional thing? Are they 183 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:11.080 interacting with our realms so to speak? Are they overlapping 184 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.159 somehow happened. I don't know how that works. So but 185 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:18.840 ron beyond something. Absolutely, we don't know how these things happen. 186 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:22.120 Are we just two planes living at the same spot 187 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.360 at the same time and they come in So I 188 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.799 don't know. I would like to think they're not connected, 189 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.879 but they could be. I don't know. When I see 190 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:33.360 Bigfoot walk out of a spaceship, I'll be like, yep, okay, 191 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:35.720 I'm on board with that theory. I just don't know, 192 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:39.240 And until I see it for myself, I just try 193 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:42.120 to stay open minded, go where the evidence takes me. 194 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:43.360 I'm not sure. 195 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.279 Let's get into the Bigfoot stuff. Obviously, you said the 196 00:09:46.279 --> 00:09:49.320 big guy walked into your life. Let's talk about your 197 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.080 first experience with these things. Was it deciding? Was it 198 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:54.240 other experiences. Take us back to where you were, what 199 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:55.720 you were doing, and tell us what happened to you. 200 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:59.159 Oh my gosh, I'll be eighty with dementia and still 201 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:03.320 remember this. It was just maybe a thousand beat from 202 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.240 our house. It was across the road in a cornfield. 203 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:08.960 We pulled up to the stop sign. You can either 204 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.120 go left or right. I'm usually on my phone. I'm 205 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.720 really not paying a whole live attention. Mike's driving, so 206 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.279 I'm trying to stay focused on something else and i 207 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:19.960 just look up and I'm like, oh, there's somebody walking 208 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:22.799 across the field, was my first thought. The farmer that 209 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.519 owns the field does not live close by, so even 210 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:29.039 whence he comes on a tractor, and I don't see 211 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:32.840 a tractor anywhere, and I'm like, that's weird. Who would 212 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:35.519 that be. But I'm looking at this thing and I'm thinking, 213 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:39.399 holy crap, that's awful. Big. Will you see a hunter 214 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.519 come out of the woods over there? They look like ants. 215 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:45.360 This thing was huge. He was black from head to toe. 216 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.519 It wasn't wearing any clothes. Phone in my hand, never 217 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:52.759 thought not a damn photo. But literally, Mike's turning the 218 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:56.480 quarter and I'm breaking my neck to continue watching this thing. 219 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.399 And it's walking on a diagonal away from us. So 220 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:04.679 I'm just and this thing cleared this cornfield in mere seconds. 221 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.120 I'm sitting in the car and I'm super quiet, trying 222 00:11:08.120 --> 00:11:10.919 to figure this out. I've hunted in this area my 223 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:14.320 whole life. I have never seen anything like this. Now. 224 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:18.200 I've seen bear coyote boxes, cooling skunks in the whole 225 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:21.039 nine yards. This is nothing I've ever seen. This is 226 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:24.600 not a bear walking across the cornfield. Bear have short 227 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.000 little legs. When they stand up on their hind legs, 228 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:30.039 they take smaller steps. This thing's walking like you and 229 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:34.440 I are long strides. It cleared this cornfield. I'm not 230 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.919 even kidding when I say it was literally seconds. I'm like, 231 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.320 this can't be happening. That can't be what it is. 232 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:44.200 I'm on my phone all day looking for reports from 233 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.919 this area. Honest to god, I thought I'm losing my mind. 234 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.039 I'm not gonna find anything. There's gonna be no explanation 235 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.600 for what the hell this thing was. Right, I start 236 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.759 looking and I'm pulling up bigfoot reports for our area 237 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:01.799 from like the nineteen seventies, and I'm completely blown away. 238 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.399 And what I saw is what people have described back 239 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.799 in the seventies, and I'm like trying to wrap my 240 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.960 head around this. Is this what I really saw? It's 241 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:12.480 got to be something else because we don't have bigfoot here. 242 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:14.559 At the end of the day, Mike is I don't 243 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:16.759 know what's wrong with you, but what's going on because 244 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.200 you're not talking today, and that's that's totally unlike me. 245 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:22.799 I'm like, you're going to think I'm crazy when I 246 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.000 say this, but did you see that thing crossing the cornfield? 247 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:27.919 I think I saw a bigfoot. If you went you're 248 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.279 crazy And I'm like, no, I'm serious. I'm pulling up 249 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.200 reports on my phone. Look at these reports. They're drunk 250 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.519 coal miners from the nineteen seventies. They did not see 251 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:41.279 a bigfoot crossing the railroad tracks and crossing here. I'm like, 252 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.799 I don't know, Mike. I'm telling you, I've been trying 253 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:47.559 to rationalize this all day. I'm telling you that it 254 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.960 can't be anything. But that's the only explanation. I have 255 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.440 eliminated everything, and this is all I'm left with. And 256 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.519 it's been full on seventies a week, three sixty five. 257 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:01.559 I think about is big. But I drive down the 258 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.679 road and I'm like, he could be watching us right now. 259 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.120 That bluffing in a curse, I call it. 260 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.200 It's definitely that for all of us. I think it 261 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.159 does one or two things to people who haven't experience 262 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.720 like that. Fortunately for you, it was from a safe 263 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:14.519 enough distance. 264 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:15.200 I know. 265 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.360 The answer for you was you went down the rabbit 266 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.480 hole and you've been there ever since. But a lot 267 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.600 of people they have those experiences. If it's a little 268 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.799 bit more up close and personal, some people turn and 269 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:27.600 run from it. They don't want anything else to do 270 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.360 with it. They run from the subject. That was it 271 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.360 for them. But for you, that's not the case. At 272 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:36.320 what point, once you had that initial siding, did you 273 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:40.840 go into going out into the woods and doing investigations. 274 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:42.919 If so, were you having experiences when you were out 275 00:13:42.919 --> 00:13:44.120 looking for these things? 276 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:46.879 I did not go immediately into the woods. But what 277 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.480 I did was is I started ordering books Amazon, big 278 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:53.519 butt books, and I just started ordering I've masked quite 279 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.399 the life repeach of books. I add to it all 280 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.840 the time. I started watching I know this is terrible 281 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:01.840 and everybody will hate what I'm about to say. But 282 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.919 I started watching all the shows right and I'm gonna 283 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.120 be honest. I could only watch two episodes of Finding Bigfoot, 284 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:10.360 and I was like, I can't do it. I had 285 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:13.679 to find something else. That's when I found Seth Breenblof's 286 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:17.679 movies and I found dunk Hijack's staff. I started watching 287 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:21.759 these little documentaries, listening to what they were experiencing in 288 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:24.600 the woods, the wood knocks, the rocks being thrown. I 289 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:27.879 have not been lucky enough to hear any samurai chatter. 290 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:33.840 I just started immersing myself and everything I did find Bigfoot. 291 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.879 And then in September of the same year, over my birthday, 292 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:43.240 I came across the BFIRO having an expedition four hours 293 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.000 away from us in the Alligating National Forest. I was like, 294 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:49.600 I'm going, it's my birthday and signing up. Mike was like, 295 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:53.399 you're insane paying to go look for Bigfoot. 296 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.919 And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see right 297 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:02.600 back after these messages, it. 298 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:06.919 Was an expensive price tag for camping. I went. I 299 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:09.879 learned so much. There was probably twenty of us in 300 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.399 this expedition, so I wasn't the only crazy person who 301 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:15.679 spent that kind of money. The guy that hosted the expedition. 302 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:19.600 We're still friends today. We still communicate. Some of the 303 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.519 people that were on the expedition with me have become 304 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:27.200 investigators with me, and we still maintain contact even to today. 305 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:29.720 So with work the money, in my opinion, and then 306 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:33.080 coming home and having experiences here at the house. When 307 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.279 you're out in the yard net rockets thrown, you're like, uh, 308 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.879 I saw this on a show somewhere or a bird 309 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:42.120 people talk about it in their books. So I started 310 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.320 piecing things together and being like, Okay, this could be 311 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:47.759 potential because I did see this thing not even a 312 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:48.679 thousand feet. 313 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:49.080 From my health. 314 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:52.639 It's nerving, to say the least. 315 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.799 I know that's not the only time that you've had 316 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.480 experiences with these things, So why don't you take us 317 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:01.120 to where the next experience was? 318 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.080 What was it? Where were you and what were you doing? 319 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:06.559 I've only had two sightings of big butt. The next 320 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.879 one within Salt Fork State Park in Ohio. I went 321 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.799 there on a group camp out. I went by myself, 322 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:15.279 so I slept in the back of my bronco because 323 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.679 I always do them by myself. Oh jeez, it was 324 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.600 the weirdest thing. Friday night, I'm sleeping in my Bronco, 325 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.200 get up in the morning. We decide we're going to 326 00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.399 go down this dirt road. We're going to check a 327 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.240 place that we're going to go to that night researching. 328 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:32.960 When we got back to camp, I get out of 329 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.120 my car and I walk around the back and I'm like, 330 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:40.399 what the hell is that? There is a gigantic handprint 331 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.480 on the back of my car. Now, I would not 332 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:47.679 have thought anything of it, except for everywhere where I 333 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:52.120 touched on the car was not dusted, just this one handprint. 334 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.399 I have big hands for a girl, but I really 335 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:57.399 have to stretch my fingers apart to even remotely match 336 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.200 this thing. It's a nice print. Like, oh my gosh, 337 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.079 that's insane. I've heard people say how their skin can 338 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:06.720 be pretty oily, and we're down that dirt road, so 339 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:10.200 it just dusted the prints. This is crazy. And then 340 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:14.119 Saturday night, I'm weeping in my Bronco. I had a 341 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:16.440 power pack that I had a fan hooked up to. 342 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:20.160 I must have drained the power pack dry. The fans 343 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.279 shut off and it starts to get warm in my car. 344 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:24.960 I'm like, oh my gosh, it's getting warm. I wake up. 345 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.480 I look at my phone. It's four twenty in the morning. 346 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.279 I look out the back window of my Bronco and 347 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:35.279 something standing there. Now I'm parked. I'm pulled into the 348 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:38.880 woodline I would have had to drive through whenever was 349 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:41.960 standing there the park where I was parked, so I 350 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.240 know it wasn't there before. This is insane. So I'm 351 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.680 like looking out the side windows. Everybody's asleep, nobody's up, 352 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:51.599 the fires are all out. I started a panic. I'm 353 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.039 a tough girl. I run in when other people are 354 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.240 running out, and I'm not afraid of a whole lot 355 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.279 of things. I'm going to tell you I lost my 356 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.440 mind because I was like, oh my god, I don't 357 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:03.880 want to move too much because what if it freaks 358 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.519 out and then busts out my window, rips me out 359 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:09.400 of the car. Worst case scenario, I'm gonna get murdered. Right, 360 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.559 I'm just gonna lay here. I'm gonna listen see if 361 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:16.039 it walks away. I don't hear a thing, and look 362 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.160 back up a couple of minutes later it's gone. Then 363 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:21.440 I have some friends that are detectives who are also 364 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:25.200 bigfoot researchers. I start going to the detective mode. Okay, 365 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:29.279 my broncos roughly five and a half feet from the 366 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.079 ground to the top of my truck. All I saw 367 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.000 was a midsection. There was no head, there was no shoulders. 368 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:40.559 So this thing is at least seven seven and a 369 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.240 half eight foot tall. The weird thing was in the morning. 370 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:47.359 I packed my shit so fast I didn't even say 371 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.759 goodbye to people. I was out of there. I left. 372 00:18:50.119 --> 00:18:52.160 On the way home. I call Mike and I'm like, 373 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.119 you are not gonna believe what freaking happened last night. 374 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.680 I tell him all about it. You gotta call Bill 375 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:00.960 and tell vill. Okay, I call Bill. He goes, I'm 376 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.640 going to call you back. I'm like, really, I just 377 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:07.720 told you that potentially there was a big butt staying 378 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.160 behind my truck in the middle of the night. You're like, 379 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:13.359 I'll call you back. So he called me back and 380 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.079 he says that the lady that was camping across from me, 381 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.880 she was in a tent. She got out of her 382 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:22.720 tent around the same time and saw something standing there, 383 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.119 so she scoped it with her FUMML camera, which is 384 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.920 an older model. It didn't take pictures. I could just die. 385 00:19:30.640 --> 00:19:33.400 There was something standing there. And on the way home, 386 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:36.279 I still have this handprint on the back of my 387 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.279 car because at that point I did not have anything 388 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:43.279 to lift prints in my gear bag. A drop of 389 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:46.079 rain hit my window and I'm literally in the car 390 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:51.160 went no ring flag. At home it cleared up. I 391 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.200 made Mike move the car out of the garage so 392 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:56.160 I could park in the garage because I didn't want 393 00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:58.920 anything to happen to this freaking handprint. As soon as 394 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.720 I got home, I got my cricket transfer tape out 395 00:20:02.319 --> 00:20:03.960 and list of the prints off the back of my 396 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:04.839 cart was in thing. 397 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:08.759 Isn't it funny though, that you go out in search 398 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:13.240 of these things you don't expect to react the way 399 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.160 that you react, or maybe you did. Was it like 400 00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:18.680 that for you in hindsight? You look back and go, man, 401 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:21.880