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Baton Rouge, Jake Flynn, a Laundr and Tayte here with you.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if Tata and Elandra.
Speaker 3: Were gonna show up to work today after being big
Netflix stars. I'm watching last night, I get told to
turn on episode four of this new sec series and
they are the producers, Elandra and Tatan just Netflix Stars.
Was the original Tripod before this old Rusty Janki leg
of the Tripod joined us.
Speaker 5: So when do you'll get you all some checks in
the mail from the.
Speaker 2: Individuals he was looking for it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Had like it was pretty cool, Like that is cool.
Speaker 3: I didn't know, and somebody's like, hey, you need turnal
episode four? Squads in there. I'm like, of what of
this new Netflix show.
Speaker 2: All right, cool?
Speaker 3: Uh, so Katie gets her remote, she's turning it on.
We're kind of going through it. We find ourselves watching
it a little bit. What weeks was the star of
this episode and you know we love wit and so
sitting there watch and then we're giving a I think
it was a Garrett Meyer take and then Tatane Landra
there they go, stars of the show.
Speaker 5: Had a speaking role.
Speaker 2: He did, he did. He gets an extra couple of
dollars on that check bo.
Speaker 6: Like when he made that statement, is talking about that
nobody's better. You can't find anybody better than Garrett Smier.
Like the bass drop, it was like a.
Speaker 7: Great line from tATu and it went straight into like
you said, like a hype and that was awesome.
Speaker 2: I thought it was well done.
Speaker 8: Thanks, not that I watched it, but it happened twice.
Speaker 3: He did at the at the end after that, Yeah,
at the end, what we were talking about, same thing.
Speaker 2: Coming back?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it with him coming back like they had mad. Yeah,
I heard.
Speaker 2: Hunt, heard, I heard Hunt. I heard Matt Well.
Speaker 9: The cool thing about they used his voice over a
lot at the beginning because they took him from pre game,
Like you could tell the was football.
Speaker 7: I watched the first episode, so I didn't make it
to the one where we I didn't.
Speaker 2: Watch that, and I just went to when somebody told.
Speaker 7: Me good episode, Danielle our Hr, she texted me too,
and then you texted us that like right after, so
I guess everybody was watching it at the same time.
But you were in it from the call, like because
they were putting Chris Blair in it to so like
you doing color was in it.
Speaker 2: Also more O TV.
Speaker 10: Was in O TV was what a win for the
seventh ranks?
Speaker 3: That's right, Market Morning. I didn't hear although I didn't
watch Cole and Greg.
Speaker 10: I didn't either, and hear them.
Speaker 2: There are those fellas in there.
Speaker 7: I have it on like in the background and maybe
the Victoria They're like, this is making the cunt floor.
Speaker 9: Because you pop up right before me and Victoria season
she goes win was that? And I backed it up
and Paul that I was like Christmas backgrounds.
Speaker 5: On the TV.
Speaker 3: That's how I knew it too. Yeah, you had the
OTB snowflakes in the background.
Speaker 7: Like begging me to do Christmas opens. Yeah, it seem
like I was a gridge. Yeah, yeah, not t Bob Bob,
not the one that starts all the rumors about me.
Speaker 2: Very cool though, very cool for the show, very cool
for the station.
Speaker 5: So you but you didn't watch the show, you didn't
watched the documentary.
Speaker 2: Yet, just episode four.
Speaker 5: So is this the one that they previews? Yeah, we rised, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we got big boyed by the producer. He
was supposed to come onto the.
Speaker 6: Show that I think the night one of SEC Media.
They were previewing episode one and they're like, y'all should come.
It's at seven to eight pm. This episode is very
LSU heavy, and so we were like, all right, we'll
do it. We'll go well, like the end of day
one at seven pm, it felt like it had in
ninety hours already, and it was like, we're hungry. We
haven't eaten any food. They haven't fed us.
Speaker 2: There's no.
Speaker 5: Beers deleted. I were like, we're gonna go get some food.
Speaker 2: Yeah we did.
Speaker 5: So we missed out.
Speaker 3: And then the next day we were supposed to have
the creator, the producer executive producer on the show, and
he returned the face. He returned the favorite, but he
wasn't angry like we were. So I don't know what
his excuse was it was early in the morning.
Speaker 5: He had no excuse that that day was rough. Though.
Speaker 6: That's when like, that's when Taylor texted us after the
show and they're like, hey, y'all need to like have
a guest on y'all.
Speaker 2: Does well that day? To be fair to everybody in
that room.
Speaker 3: I've done SEC media days, I think fully every year
since twenty nineteen, but even in seventeen and eighteen, I
went and did a day or two. I have never
seen a room that dead at an SEC Media day.
Speaker 2: And it was like Tuesday, it was like the biggest.
It was big teams.
Speaker 3: It was like Texas and Georgia and like some of
these massive teams, and man, there wasn't a soul up
there when we were doing morning radio.
Speaker 2: Not a team, not a coach, not anybody.
Speaker 10: Interesting, and you're an hour an hour.
Speaker 2: It was it was wild and I was like, is
it just us?
Speaker 3: And then everybody that you talked to that day they
were like, man, that was brutal.
Speaker 5: There was every everybody but Cole.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I made Cole on Netflix.
Speaker 5: Though Cole was.
Speaker 2: Raking yeah for for a two man show.
Speaker 3: Was working a lot of a lot of so Cole
would go up there and he would just he like
record a ton just by, like for his show. He's
got a podcast, and like he would just grab like
if me and Matt were sitting there after our show,
like he was gonna grab one of us and like, hey,
you got seven minutes for me.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't seven minutes. He grabbed you for about
a thirty minute interview.
Speaker 2: It was forty two, was it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he I came on there for like the last
twelve thirteen. Yeah, a grinder man grind he was. I
think he launched two or three new shows or your channels.
Speaker 2: He did. He he was trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6: A man has about seventy five media gigs. He sideline reports,
and we've recently found out he's also oh yeah, he
just does live breaks of sports cards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's like fanatics is the worst that breaks
the cards on fanatics live, Like telling you to bid, Yeah,
telling you get in with that a dollar, get in
all day, all day.
Speaker 2: That's cold. Yeah, you think he owes the mob money.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He might just asking the questions.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: He might be like a Bradley Deal Peveto type. He
only gets two to three hours sleep a day and
needs to be doing something. Yeah, because he's got that
much energy.
Speaker 5: I mean it felt like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. AnyWho Oh, Bradley dough shout out brother though.
Speaker 5: Shout out to TV.
Speaker 7: What you speak volumes about the entire show, because I
didn't see any other producers on.
Speaker 2: There to say, let's go. I didn't see Bob on
there either, barstool.
Speaker 9: Now they have, They couldn't, They could afford to have
him on anymore.
Speaker 5: You know, there might be actually something to do that let's.
Speaker 10: Cut the trader.
Speaker 5: They would have had to go, They would have had
to get permission from Guarantee to put those voices in
like likeness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but Bob. Any content that Bob had here
is still Guarantees. That's not barstools.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: If anybody in here can tell me where Bradley Dale
Pivoto is currently coaching coffee on me or energy drink
for ta.
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know it.
Speaker 10: NFL or college college.
Speaker 2: Bradley Dale's vibe do you work in the NFL?
Speaker 3: Those thirty two years have been like hey, hey, hey, hey,
my guy, you gotta settled down all right?
Speaker 5: No idea, I have three guesses.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus, you want a lifeline as well, because
it could be all over the place.
Speaker 6: Okay, I could see him at a top tier person.
I'm gonna say Texas A and m Sam, Houston State,
Mary Hard and Baylor.
Speaker 3: Okay, no, but you're you're in the right world. You're close.
No state, Texas State.
Speaker 8: Why did we booty?
Speaker 2: Well done?
Speaker 5: Friends, That's why they're on Netflix. That's it right right there.
Speaker 8: That was That was weird.
Speaker 5: It was weird.
Speaker 3: They were looking at me, not each other. That was weird.
Y'all are becoming one.
Speaker 8: We texted each other. We were like, hey on.
Speaker 3: Three Pivoto coffee on me, well done, well done.
Speaker 5: Hey, I was pretty close. Shout out of the door.
Speaker 2: You mean you got it?
Speaker 6: Guided you what a team effort you got them there? Wait,
credit to myself on that one.
Speaker 2: Guys, a great job we all got there.
Speaker 7: But credit to me thought we all share a single
brain cell.
Speaker 2: We are well that's all we got left.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: But watching that last night, all jokes aside, it was
very cool to see the team in there, very very
proud of our producers. They deserve to be on there.
But it got me, It got me fired up. It
got me like even more so ready like for football
season because I'm sitting there and they were highlighting the
the Alabama and the A and M game, and Katie's like,
are you getting mad all over again?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 2: I said, yes, I am. I was like, man, they
were they were.
Speaker 3: They were so good last year, like they had some
big like going to South Carolina and finding a way
to win that game and beating Old Miss in overtime
when really you didn't control any narrative in that game
until you needed to, like your first lead was in overtime.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like and they were.
Speaker 3: Now you could say, okay, well they were a couple
of plays away from losing those games too. I get that,
but that's what a season is. And they found a
way to win. I'm like, if they win that.
Speaker 2: A and M game, what's it? What's it ended up being?
You're going to well covering covering that game?
Speaker 3: Why so going from the booth, I'm going to go
find some coffee. By the way, they had no coffee
in the Texas A and M press box, which I
thought was wild.
Speaker 8: A team.
Speaker 2: Well, so listen, they had like.
Speaker 3: A coffee mate, Like I went and I'm like, I'm
opening up like all the kitchen, the little area that
they got because I'm like, I'm not trying to be mean,
but I need coffee during this call. So like they
had like a coffee mate underneath this this sink, and
so I grabbed that thing.
Speaker 2: I go find a filter and I'm making some coffee.
Speaker 3: And as I'm sitting there, like all the textags, guys
come up to me and they're like, well, looks like
you're going to go get another SEC championship.
Speaker 2: Well it looks like Smeyer might be in New York.
I mean they are.
Speaker 3: They're doing this game over, and I'm kind of like,
I'm letting myself allow the thought process of the game
being over.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't the press.
Speaker 3: It's over, I mean just the wave of change at
halftime in that game. And if you win that one,
look you end up losing Alabama too in Florida. Like
I know all that, but at the time, if you
win that game, what does your season look like?
Speaker 7: So the first episode they focused on the South Carolina
LSU games. They followed l s U and South Carolina,
and South Carolina fully thought that they.
Speaker 8: Were going to win that game too.
Speaker 7: And like seventeen zero at home, like in the second quarter,
that's crazy, great, great venue by the Yeah, and I
was gonna I always liked him, but Chane Beamer is
just very likely.
Speaker 9: That was a better episode than four watched one episode.
One's the best episode. That was really in the.
Speaker 7: Second it was like about Graham Mertz and then when
he gets hurt and yeah, I did too, started.
Speaker 3: On us on Floridas like I'm the only Gator that
I'm like, I just say for doing yeah for anybody else.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The L s U, A and M game was also
made my evening terrible last fall because I was at
a Taylor Swift concert at the time and I was
watching it. I was gonna say if you if you
missed the It was one of these things that I
committed to. I thought it was gonna be a day game.
I committed to like a couple of months before my
wife and I went.
Speaker 2: An M and L s U. It was going to
be a day game.
Speaker 6: It was two years ago. I thought there was at
the very end of the season. Anyway, I didn't know
that it was going to be like all the.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, so I go and so I wanted I.
Speaker 6: Wanted to have the experience. Everybody's been talking about it.
Why not, why not go? So we go and I'm
sitting there. We got really good seats, and all these
people are screaming I can't have money. So like I'm
sitting there and the entire time I'm sitting there watching
the game on my iPhone, I'm not even watching the concert.
Like I'm completely a waste of a ticket. It was
a disrespect to all these swifties out there. And I
get it, It's fine, and I was just watching. I
was I was having a good time because I'd be
watching a touchdown it was shut were winning, blah blah blah.
You know, I'd get I'd shake it off. Whatever ruined
my whole night. I like left the concert. I went down.
I just like sat there by myself and I just
you know, had deleted a couple of beers down there.
I heard the music in the background. It was a
waste of a waste of a ticket because I felt bad.
Speaker 2: Angry, such a weird game.
Speaker 3: And me and c Be are sitting there calling We're
just looking like as it's unfolding, like looking at each other,
like you know, mouth.
Speaker 7: And like yeah for some reason. I don't remember why,
but I was out the Monday following the Texas.
Speaker 10: A and M game and then.
Speaker 9: I to celebrating with her Texas folks.
Speaker 10: I came back and t BO was like, Bop was like,
do you want to talk about.
Speaker 7: The Texas A and M gown Like absolutely not.
Speaker 10: I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 7: Like it was so painful, probably the worst loss of
the season to me, because of how you felt the
first half and then how you felt the second half,
and then just to lose to the Agus is never good.
Speaker 3: I don't like them. No staytaste people. And on that note,
we'll take a break. Here, got a lot to get
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Speaker 3: One part all right, Welcome Back Again, O TV one,
O four five ESPN Henry Uh the NFL has bands
smelling salts boo. I am not very happy about it.
When I played, it was part of the pregame ritual.
You'd crack one, three, maybe four or five, put them
in a bottle, shake it up, take a hit, flip
the switch. It didn't really matter what was sore. It
didn't really matter what was hurting. Smelling salt was always
going to be the remedy for whatever you needed.
Speaker 5: It was a cure for a lot of things.
Speaker 2: A lot of things.
Speaker 3: It was, like I say it all the time, mean, nasty, tough,
locked in and that was thanks to the smelling salt. Look,
they're not performance enhancers, their mindset enhancers. They got you
juiced and ready to go. How many pictures do we
see of your favorite athletes hitting AsSalt?
Speaker 6: Lots a lot. And it's not just a pregame ritual.
I mean during game a lot of people say it's
a pre every dry thing. George Kittle, he did it
before every single drive he went out on the field of.
Speaker 2: That guy, and now they're banned. Why optics?
Speaker 6: We gotta think on this one. You gotta look a
little deeper. You gotta blame the FDA on this one.
Speaker 2: No NFL, Yeah, NFL.
Speaker 3: Oh another player safety, Yeah, y'all really care about that.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about steroids.
Speaker 3: We're not talking about tortle, which got one of those
before every game.
Speaker 2: They didn't really care about that.
Speaker 3: We're just talking about a little smelling salt. Just another
piece of the game that I know, the game that
I love, the identity of that game being taken away
by the NFL.
Speaker 2: Sad.
Speaker 3: In fact, in twenty nineteen the LSU run, any person
that was on the travel trip for LSU probably had
three or four salts in their I ain't talking about
players only, I'm talking about everybody. I was a driving
force behind the greatest college football team of all time.
Sure they had Burrow and Chase and Jefferson and Clyde
and Derek Stingley and Grant Delpit and Patrick Queen, But
it was really the smelling salts.
Speaker 5: NFL the late great Kevin green.
Speaker 6: Kevin greens Man, who was are fortunate enough to spend
a couple of years with him.
Speaker 5: He was linebacker coach in Green Bay.
Speaker 2: Oh was he really?
Speaker 6: When I was there in thirteen and fourteen. I can't
I don't know if he book ended that any more years.
But he would constantly and consistently carry a cup yep.
It was a gatorad cup, little green wax ones, and
it had probably ten to fifteen of them in there
at all times. And you would just see him on
the sideline and you could just watch him from a
distance and you could just see him coaching and just
living and he would walk up and.
Speaker 5: He'd be like, you want to hit this?
Speaker 2: And he would absolutely do you have to ask?
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget that because it was amazing and
everybody benefited from it from a mentality standpoint. I mean,
you are about to run full speed into another gentleman
who was very big and strong and fast, and he's
going to be running full speed, you know. Every now
and then you got a sniff a little vinegar and
it's okay. They wearing salt. We call him smelling salts ammonia.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what it is?
Speaker 6: How else do you think Billy Bob woke up from
when he got concussed Smelling salt?
Speaker 5: Smelling salts. It's an institution, it's a tradition and they
have stripped it from US.
Speaker 6: I hope the NCAA does not follow. I'm trying to
figure out why, And of course it comes down.
Speaker 5: To the FDA.
Speaker 2: What the FDA do.
Speaker 6: The FDA has stated that there is a lack of
evidence supporting the safety and efficacy of ammonia inhalence parentheses
smelling salts when marketed for purposes like improving mental alertness
or boosting energy. These products are considered unapproved drugs when used.
Speaker 5: For these purposes.
Speaker 6: Positive potential, negative health effects potential well no, but coughing,
airway constriction, I knows, and throat irritation.
Speaker 8: He said, there's a lack of.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Also hitting your head against another man, there's possible. Yeah,
there's possible health effects to that. I think we all
know it, and we make a decision.
Speaker 9: If you say there's no evidence that this helps you,
wouldn't there be no evidence that it hurts you either?
Speaker 5: Would that what.
Speaker 6: They're saying, we don't know if I don't know or
hurt you.
Speaker 5: We just don't like it. Yeah, we got it. We
have an idea.
Speaker 10: Stay hot, typical government over each typical.
Speaker 6: I'm okay if you come for our artificial dies colors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take the red skill away. Okay, yeah, I still
got the purple like.
Speaker 5: You could take things and it's great. I get it.
We're trying to improve the health of our youth, the
health of.
Speaker 6: Our nation, who's you know, famously around the world a
little bit unhealthy.
Speaker 5: We get it.
Speaker 6: But smelling salts away from our salts. Stay away, smelling salts.
Speaker 3: It's just take it, yeah, George Kittles, smelling salt.
Speaker 2: All they're gonna do is just hit it in the
locker room. I mean, you might ban them.
Speaker 3: They're gonna get them, which they're actually hard now to get,
but they're gonna get some off Amazon and they're gonna
tape up a water bottle so you can't see what's
in there, and they're going to put a bunch in
there and they're just gonna.
Speaker 9: Hit it in the locker room, or do liquid ammonia,
which yeah, that's put it in the bottle because like
when I was in high school, we do the smell insalts,
but we had the liquid ammonia work.
Speaker 6: They're gonna find a way around it. Like NFL football
players that have like they're they're there for, they have
to perform, so if they believe something helps their performance.
They will pay fines whatever it is to still maintain
that performance. Like if they have if wearing a certain
cleat or a sock or a wristband that has not
approved apparel for the NFL, but it makes them feel
better than they think they play better, they will take
the fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah all day.
Speaker 3: I think I think it was our guy Chipper Jones
that if in Major League Baseball, if you got caught
with a dip in your mouth, it was like a
certain fine.
Speaker 2: This is at least the legend that I've always heard.
Speaker 3: I need to just ask them, you would get a fine,
Like I don't know what the fine was, but you
know baseball players certainly wan dip like that's like a.
Speaker 2: Comfort for them.
Speaker 3: I don't know that I ever saw Gary Sheffield up
to bat where he didn't have a full can in
his lap.
Speaker 2: Sure, it's just you.
Speaker 3: Know what he was that Chipper would pay whatever the
fine was, Like he would total one hundred and sixty
two games and just times to fine and give MLB
the check before the season. Yeah, here you go, because
I'm not not going to go out there without a
turk in yep.
Speaker 6: And it's a it's a little. It's a it's a
sign of protest as well. We had guys like that too.
We had defensive linemen there, like I'm not going to
make weight.
Speaker 5: Here is.
Speaker 6: Twenty or thirty thousand dollars check at the beginning of
the year. Yep, I'm not making it, so don't waigh
me in. Yeah, because if you're underweight.
Speaker 2: Too, that's a fine found that one out told that story.
See he sucks, all.
Speaker 3: Right, so sorry, we'll get to the training game stuff.
But that came across the wire. And there was not
a game that I played in from high school all
the way until twenty fourteen where I did not hit
a smell salt before a game. There was a couple
of years covering football that I didn't hit a smelling
salt before I went on air.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right. It was a part of who I was.
And now they're the NFL is taking them away from the.
Speaker 6: Especially when in the NFL most of the games are
played at noon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, yeah, we didn't come from the Big ten
yet ready to play at noon.
Speaker 5: Like for night games, okay, yeah, you need a little
bit less as a quarterback. I didn't do them a
whole lot.
Speaker 6: I didn't do the smelling salts a lot because that
position you just can't get like two hyped up makes
I remember like.
Speaker 5: Listening like when I was in high school, I learned
that lesson I was.
Speaker 6: I was listening to like hardcore music, like the same
music that the linebackers alignment, and I was like, ah,
I was like so fired up. Well I overthrew like
my first five passes of the game. Yeah, I was
just too hyped, right, So I didn't do the smelling
salts too much. But I understand if I'm playing fullback, yeah,
gotta go hit t Kio spikes right, try.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Or if you're an R five on kickoff and it's
before NFL changed the rules and there can be four
offensive linemen in the wedge, I need.
Speaker 5: As salt and give me your cup.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, we'll step away.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll get into some storylines from
LSU training camp, and we'll do it right here on
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don't know this one, Let's go gab Nathan Scott.
Speaker 5: Gaving a Girl is still playing randomly at just beaches.
Speaker 7: He does, he does, Wait, this is like a perfect
beach artist.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Flynn knows this. I've told this
story on the air before we were in the Payinghanda
for his Pensacole of Panama City when I was in
high school, and this before Gavin de Graul was was big.
I think he made it pretty close. After that, there
was this guy who had an acoustic guitar was playing
on the beach and as you can imagine, he was popular.
Ye say that it was popular on the beach that day.
It was actually like kind of nighttime, we're just walking
the beach. Turns out that was Gavin.
Speaker 6: D gral Boom before he got big on the beach.
Speaker 3: Me and my boys like when he he made it big,
like we were like, you know how it is like
everybody's like, oh my god, that guy on the beach.
Speaker 6: I feel like every three to five years I see
a random social media video a new one of his.
Speaker 7: I think, because whenever I think of him in this song,
I think about dudes wearing flip flops with jeans, and.
Speaker 10: That just feels like a bad luck. Can I be honest,
do you like it?
Speaker 7: I don't hate it as much as a lot of
other people do.
Speaker 10: It's it's not great, but there's worse.
Speaker 2: Looks I did it in college, for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it was. That's the two thousands.
Speaker 10: Look, yeah, it's very two thousands, all right.
Speaker 5: I guess it's fair. Skinny jeans, I guess might be better.
Speaker 10: No, you gotta do it with like a book cut. No,
you gotta do it with like a boot cut or
like a flare jean.
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Speaker 3: I want to get into something a little bit because
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Speaker 6: On and hold on saying let me let me cut
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Speaker 5: Yeah, choking down, darl livery. Did y'all catch that? Heard that?
So I went there.
Speaker 6: I was like going, I'm going, I'm going to check
it out. And so I got like the vitamin shot
had like all the fight of the season. The vitamin
like a d shot in the arm. Lac was like
last night, She's like, you got so much energy right now.
I was like, Yep, feel great.
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Speaker 2: If you're here, you can come defend yourself. It's fine.
And it's just a clip that I saw.
Speaker 3: But he's not the only one that I've I've seen
this from talking about not being able to run the
football for l s U. And look, the deepensive line
has looked good. The day we went out there, there
was a couple of past rush moves from the interier.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, that's different.
Speaker 3: They didn't have that a year ago, and I just
I think Kyle Williams is going to do a hell
of a job with that group. But y'all know my
pet peeve in the run game, and there's a lot
of people that say this. It's not just who that
just it drives me crazy. It's like, I couldn't run
the ball today. I couldn't do it, couldn't do it.
I'm like, what every day that I've been to practice,
Kayden Durham, are a back has hit a forty to
fifty yard run and they're like, yeah, but outside of that,
there's no outside of that. You can't take that away.
It's not when a quarterback throws for three hundred yards. Yeah,
but if he didn't hit that seventy yard er. The
thing is that seventy yarder was part of what he did.
You want the receiver to fall down at thirty like
in the running game. One of the things that you
continue to do. And that's why you have to establish
a run game. It's why you have to stay consistent
with the run game. There's gonna be a lot of
two and three yard carries and you lean on the defense.
You see where the openings are going to be. You
stay with it and guess what pops a forty, a fifty,
a sixty. The two days I've been out there, Kayden
Durham is hit at least a forty yard run. Now, look,
is the defense doing a great job, Yeah, for sure,
But the off offensive line is going to be a
continued working progress throughout camp. But I'm not going to
sit there and act like they're not opening up running
lanes when you have big hitters, and I think Tata
you said the practice you went to there was like
three big run It.
Speaker 9: Was about a fifty five and a forty five, almost
back to back.
Speaker 3: That's what the running game is. It's not going to
be seven yards of pop over and over and over again.
If it is, that's troublesome for the LSU defense. No,
a good running game is going to make sure that
they stay within the system, don't try to do things
they can't get done, which we've talked about that in
the past. And eventually the three yards turned into thirty yards,
the five yards turned into fifty yards. Every single day
the LSU run game has hit a big one. And
so I actually go back and I watch some of
the tape and I'm like, all right, they are coming
along at the pace that they need to. And also
the defensive line is better. That's why you don't see
seven yards every single run. So it's always a bit
a pet peeve of mine. Yeah, this guy had a
one hundred and thirty yards rushing, but if you take
the eighty yard out of there, you only had fifty.
The thing about football is that eighty yard run counts,
and that eighty yard run is a part of the story,
and that eighty yard run leads to whatever happens the
rest of the game. And so how do you get
that out there?
Speaker 5: There's an evolution in the running game.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like when you do let's just ok
a picture in the passing game, Like you run a
bubble screen, bubble screen, bubble screen. It's getting it a
couple of yards, getting in a couple of yards, and
you keep running it. Well, all of a sudden, the
defense starts teeing off on it, and you run a
fake bubble screen and you hit a deep shot down
the sideline. It kind of running plays are kind of
like that. There's a lot of times where it's two
yards in a cloud of dust. There's a lot of
times that's a tackle for a no game for.
Speaker 2: Three yards class, there's a my yard.
Speaker 5: Two to three not bad, but you're right.
Speaker 6: You cannot take anything anything like that away. But that's
the dangers, I guess of training camp. And of course
we have to go out there. We got to make evaluations.
We got to see what's like, who's looking good, who's
looking bad. But when a receiver makes a great catch,
the dB looks bad. Yep, when the safety makes an interception,
the quarterback looks bad. Like somebody's gonna look good, somebody's
gonna look bad. And hopefully if you have a good team,
everybody looks bad at certain points during the day, right,
certain points during a practice, But you are absolutely right,
Like Kate Durham has popped off big runs multiple multiple times.
And I would like to say, like, like the defense
when we went there, did look good, Hunters hunters right
on that, Like the defense look good. At times they
looked like they were stopping the run and the pass equally.
But then Garrett hit a good pass, Kate would break
off a big run.
Speaker 5: And that's that's the evolution of practice.
Speaker 6: That's the evolution of Okay, what's the what down and
distance are we working this period? Is it more likely
run situations? Okay, the defensive linement's gonna have a little
bit more run technique, like gets a little bit harder.
It's a little bit chalenting, more challenging. And I kind
of asked you this like to kind of argue against
you a little bit at the break. If you say
you can't take a big run away, and you absolutely can't,
because the lineman earned that, the running back earn it
like a big run, and what you do leading up
to that point kind of sets that up. If you're
running inside zone, inside zone, inside zone, you're setting it up,
and then obviously you pop it outside zone and.
Speaker 5: You catch them or whatever it is.
Speaker 6: But what like, what's your what about you feel the
same if first play the game, we pop a seventy
yard run for a touchdown, defense makes some adjustments and
stops them for stops them from under one hundred the
rest of the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that look, that still counts. The seventy yard run
still counts. It's still a narrative, is still part of
the game. But that is a difference to situation because
you can't take that away but credit on the defense
for making whatever that adjustment was.
Speaker 2: I am more talking about throughout the game.
Speaker 3: And look, it's not like you're only hitting three yard
runs two yard runs, like you're hitting Hey, here's a seven, Hey,
here's a two, here's a three, here's an eleven.
Speaker 2: Hey, here's a two. Here's a one, here's a no gain,
here's a fourteen. Like.
Speaker 3: Part of that is a part of the run game.
That's why you have to stay with us, why you
can't get away from it. How many times have you
seen a game plan where the run's not hitting at
the very beginning of the game and they're like, a,
hell with it, we gotta throw the ball and you
end up throwing the ball forty seven times. That's troublesome.
Like within the run game, you have to stay committed
to it. And I'm not saying just hit your head
against a brick wall like we used two at times
when we were playing. But if you can see the
signs and look these coaches all have because I sit
right next to the LSU coaches. Our radio booth is here,
the offensive coaches right next to us. After every play,
they see the play right back in front of them,
right so they have film in front of them so
they know what's about to pop. They got end zone
copies they can see, Okay, well, man, gosh, if that
back just hits that a gap a little bit quicker,
we've got something there. And it's staying consistent in the
run game, not bailing on the run game too soon.
And so for me it's exciting to see as a
play caller, you're not just running inside zone, right, You're
being creative now in.
Speaker 2: The run game.
Speaker 3: We saw a bunch of duo the day we went
out there. That's something that's a little bit new. And
they realized that there was a problem last year. And
kateen Dorm had a great year individually, they did not
have a great running attack a year ago. That's the
easy thing to say because it was factual. So they're
changing things up this year. And I do think it's
going to be a run game that they have to
stick with because you're eventually going to lean on the
defensive line long enough to hit a fifty yarder.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and this happened.
Speaker 6: You know, when the like I believe that there's going
to be more under center, They're going to throw in
a little bit of that this year at least they
should and we saw a little bit to send it
in some special situations. So I don't know, we'll see
what happens in that, but I I the positive takeaways
I had was, all right, we're running different schemes, do
a powder counter zone. They're like, we're mixing it all in.
But then you look at man the defense are they
Are they better than we were thought they would be.
It's a big question mark right now defensive line, interior
defensive line. These guys look really well coached given a
lot of efforts.
Speaker 2: Completely Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then so if you you want it to look
good right now because you have question marks young guys
at offensive line that you want them to be going
against guys with really good effort, high effort and really
quality technique from a hand standpoint and footwork standpoint and
hitting their marks and uh gap integrity. You want all
that right now, like you want to be practicing against that.
Speaker 5: So I think it's a positive thing.
Speaker 6: You want everybody to look good in camp, and you
want everyone to look bad a couple of times because
that means the guy they're facing is doing something well.
Speaker 5: And that's training camp, folks. I mean that's that's the
way it is.
Speaker 6: You cannot look good the running game cannot look good
every play, and us feel good as a whole about
the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the things that you'll notice immediately. And
I'd like to get taate Stalaltsons. He's been in practice
as well. You've got a couple of defensive tackles that
are set up for monster years and that group looks
like they're going to get interior pressure that you were
certainly missing from a year ago. So we'll have that
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTV here on this Wednesday
morning talking LSU training camp. Where we left off was
talking defensive tackles, Dominic McKinley and my bro Bernard Good
and certainly somebody that is flash. It's good to see
Jacob and Gillery out there as well. But it's going
to be a different look defensive line. We talked about
it three four days ago. Kyle Williams is going to
have a different body type I think in there more
times than not. It's not going to be your three
hundred and thirty pound two gap run stuff or he
is going to you know, look, you're gonna have those
guys for those situations, but it is going to be
a more lean, mean pass rushing on a machine type situation.
Speaker 5: Nice.
Speaker 3: And I think and we talked about it, what Monday
or maybe it was Friday. Uh, benar Goodin is flashing
and he had he had a move when Flinn and
I went to practice on Saturday. But Taty, you've been
able to go out a couple of times. It seems
like it's not just a one day situation, like it's
kind of been the theme of camp.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, it's every day.
Speaker 9: And I mean, he's a guy you look at the roster,
what seventy two seventy five playing the interior Like he's
not the biggest guy out there by any means, but
he just knows how to do it. And everybody's gonna say, Okay, well,
Josh Thompson's struggling with him, sure, but Josh Thompson's un
struggling against anybody else. And then when they move Brenard
Gooden on the other side.
Speaker 8: He beats a d J.
Speaker 9: Chester Chester's not struggling with a whole lot of guys.
Goodin's been great. The thing I look at though, like
I put it in the dock, Patrick Payton, Jacoby and
Gillaria Modbro and Jamari Butler. I would take that D
line all day. That was the second team D line yesterday, right.
The depth of this group is what I'm looking at.
Like Gooden's great in pro there's a translate, we'll see,
but the depth of this group. They got seven or
eight guys last you had three.
Speaker 3: I think they have to they got they have to
get pressure from the edge rushers.
Speaker 2: That's the obvious thing. And I want to see that group.
Speaker 3: You got guys coming from Florida, Florida State, Nebraska. So
that group, we don't really know the whole story yet.
Gabe Reliford is somebody I'm intrigued with. We'll see what
that group does. But that's the obvious thing. Interior pressure,
which we can get to a little bit later on
in the show. That to me is the most troublesome
thing as an offense that the defense can give you.
And I'll have Flynn kind of break it down because
he's the guy that's trying to run away from it.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like what we're describing for a defensive line sets
up really well for our season this year. I've especially
Game one Kate club Nick is going to try to
move around, get out of the pocket and move around.
Speaker 5: So like lean mean defensive line machine.
Speaker 2: You almost got there.
Speaker 3: We'll get there and we'll be back our number two
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