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Speaker 1: All start to you want to present Off the Bench

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with Jacob Hester and T bob Abert. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah, Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and T bob.

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Speaker 2: Abert to come off the pitch.

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Speaker 1: Now here's Jacob Hester and T. Bob Abert.

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Speaker 3: Welcome man.

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Speaker 4: Hour number two, Thursday edition of Off the Bench. Taylor

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show up here with the Landra Villarial and Jordan Kitchens,

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who just did a fantastic intro to hour number two. Landra,

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I need your help with something before we get started

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here in hour number two because I'm a little stumped.

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What would you say is super sonny? What classified super sonny?

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Speaker 5: Also, we can't even how do you know it's sonny outside?

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Speaker 3: We can't see.

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Speaker 6: Before the sun.

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Speaker 5: I was like, well, where is this going? It's the

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weather report on Brother Channel. It just said a nice,

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big bright son So I'm envisioning outside a nice bright

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son Yes, we're buck stuff in the world right now.

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Speaker 2: Yah.

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Speaker 3: Because it's say he's super sonny.

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Speaker 5: It feels supercent I feel that I feel the UV

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raised radiating on me right now.

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Speaker 4: You feel raised and maybe the in the darkest room

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and there's ability weaponings.

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Speaker 5: The darkest one of it is not the coldest, not

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the coldest, but it's one of the darkest rooms. I

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will say this, I'm willing to be a betting man,

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and when we walk out of this studio it'll be

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a nice, bright and sunny day outside. Matter of fact, chat,

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let us know right now is the sunny outside? Please

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let me know. Is it sunny outside? I believe it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it probably is.

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Speaker 5: But just like let me know, super super superci you

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gotta be you know, you gotta be positive positivity.

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Speaker 4: I got picked on for about six months in the

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YouTube Jackets. I said thunder showers one.

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Speaker 3: Time, which I stand by.

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Speaker 5: That was the storm to be thundershower.

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Speaker 4: Well, storm to me depends on how hard it's raining. Yes,

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it doesn't necessarily have to be thundering, but it can

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thunder and not storm, so it's a thundershower. I stand

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by it. No, it's a moderate rain with thunder and

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lightning mixed. And take thunders hour.

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Speaker 5: They're choosing to be difficult, all right, we get what

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you know. We know what you mean.

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Speaker 4: Look, Jordan, I have explained this multiple times to T

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Bob and Jake. I am not a professional weather man,

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so appreciate anybody tuning in. But if you were getting

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your daily weather and relying solely on off the bench,

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that's kind of on you.

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Speaker 5: But also like we've been doing this since I before

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I started doing that the intro or whatever, and I

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think it's pointless. I love it, actually kind I think

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it's pointless.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that we need to do it.

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Speaker 6: I know, like I have, like.

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Speaker 5: Nobody tunes into one O four five ESPN.

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Speaker 3: To get a weather report from Taylor.

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Speaker 5: You know what we don't know? That probably does Bob's

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knee and the chat. They probably those are the type

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of guys that get for the Taylor to do that.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, possible transition there. Let's let's dive in

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right now to a little college basketball. Look, March Madness

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is coming up. I just JANELLSU Women's played in the

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SEC Tournament coming up tomorrow night. I think there are

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three teams right now in men's college basketball that stand

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out above the rest. And that's difficult to say because

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all season long, me, you, anybody else who's watched these

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games have said, man, the field is so wide open.

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Yukon has taken a step down. This is anybody's game.

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And while it is to me, there are three teams

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that stand out above the rest. The first team, it's

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the Duke Blue Devils. It's self explanatory. Cooper Flag is

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as good as it gets in college basketball. Just look

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at his numbers. Nineteen point six points per game, seven

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and a half rebounds, four point two assists, one point

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six steals, one point two blocks. Cooper Flag leads Duke

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and points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks per game. Think

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about that for a second. That's a talented basketball team.

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It's also more than just Cooper Flag, though. Kamnippal thirty

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six points or thirteen points six points per game. He

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shoots almost forty percent from three, and he shoots over

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ninety one percent from the free throw line. Similar players,

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from three, forty percent from behind the arc, eleven point

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eight points per game. He's a guy that's been there

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for multiple years. Go, I get it, you had to

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replace coach k you got John Shire now. But this team,

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right now, this might be the best Dupe team they've

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had in five years, really since talent wise, really since RJ. Barrett, Camraddish,

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Zion Williams. That team made it to the Elite eight

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and honestly probably should have went further than that. They

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had the talent to win it all. I think this

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duke team is on par with that one. Maybe not

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top level talent outside of Cooper Flag, but this is

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a deep team. They got like a lot of different

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guys that can hurt you in a lot of different ways.

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The second team I want to highlight is Auburn. In

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my opinion, they are the most complete team in the SEZ.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 4: They just lost the game to Texas A then it

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was a double digit game where Auburn actually never led

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in that ball game. That is a little bit concerning.

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Here's why I'm not super concerned. Jani Broom is this

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offense as good as the other pieces around Jani Broom

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are that we're going to get into in a minute.

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Jani Broom is this offense? He took nine shots, he

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scored eight points. Here's what Jani Broom got into foul trouble,

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so he could not be as aggressive as he normally

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is now. Hes still played thirty two minutes because he

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was able to you know, not foul out, but total

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fouls for each team. Auburn committed nineteen fouls. Texas A

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and M outscored him thirty six to twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: In the paint.

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Speaker 4: Again because Broom and Dylan Cardwell and the big men

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couldn't be as aggressive as they may have liked free throws,

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Auburn was thirteen to fifteen. Texas A and M shot

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twenty five free throws in that ball game. You're at home,

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you have the vanage already, you get the other team

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in foul trouble early on. It's very, very hard to

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win that game because Auburn shot the ball well. Auburn

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actually outshot Texas A and M from the field as

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a whole and from behind the art. Auburn shot fifty

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percent from the court and almost forty one percent from three.

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They shot the ball well enough to win that game.

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They just again couldn't be as aggressive as they wanted

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to be on the defensive end. Really down in the paint,

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foul trouble early on. It is very hard to do

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what you want offensively, Look, Jane I. Broom is a

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complete player. To me, He's what separates this team from

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the rest of the SEC. If anybody watched that Alabama

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versus Auburn game about a month ago, it was a

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one versus two matchup. The reason Auburn was able to

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take care of business there and pull away down the stretch,

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it's because Alabama didn't have anybody that could match.

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Speaker 3: A Jani Brew.

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Speaker 4: Because as good as shooters Auburn is from the three

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point line, which we'll get into in a minute, and

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have a Jani Broom. Download and look, Dylan Cardwell for

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this basketball team is a good post player. But Jani

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Broom can play in the post. He's got a good

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mid range shot, he could step back and hit a

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three when he needs to, He's a good defender. Janni

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and Alabama did not have anybody to match it.

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Speaker 3: That's why he went out there.

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Speaker 4: He scored over twenty points and Auburn was able to

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win that game, and they were actually pretty comfortable in

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the last few minutes of that ballgame. But outside of him,

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Chad Baker Mazara is a problem for other teams. In

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last three games, look, he only had fifteen against Texas

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A and M, but before that back to back games

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of twenty two points. He's averaging about thirteen a game.

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He shoots over forty seven percent. And once again another

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guy that shoots over forty percent from three.

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Speaker 3: Miles Kelly another great shooter.

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Speaker 4: We have seen him get hot time and time again

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this basketball season and just kill opponents with his shooting.

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Dylan Cardwell, who already mentioned in the post to hot Pettiford,

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he's getting better and better.

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Speaker 3: He's the freshman guard.

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Speaker 5: All these guys are old man's Chide Baker guy, he's

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older than me and he's still playing college ball.

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Speaker 4: But the thing that makes them so good and I agree,

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look at you, look at guys. That's why a Villanova,

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A Yukon teams like this always perform. Well, go back

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and look at the previous national champions. They all have

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two things in common. One they all have veteran leaders

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on that team. And two they're all top ten and

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free throws, they're all top ten and free throw percentage.

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All these teams can shoot free throws well. All of

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them have veterans and a guy like to Hod Petiford,

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who I'm mentioned in now. He's a freshman guard, so

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you have that young talent as well. Duke has that,

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and He'sproctor is a guy that's been there for a

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number of years.

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Speaker 5: I'm paying downfall. I just can't respect their game. Can

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Speaker 3: You know what they do it well? This year?

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Speaker 5: You need to win this year. Their issue in the.

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Speaker 4: Past is that they've been such a good shooting team

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that when they have an off shooting night, they have nothing.

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Speaker 3: Else to combat that.

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Speaker 5: Like Houston a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with jan I Broom, with Dylan calrdwell, with these

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guys that can play in the post.

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Speaker 3: They're a more complete team this year than they have

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been in the past.

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Speaker 4: I've been a big Auburn downer in the past as well,

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but this team's a little bit different because of the

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number of guys in the number of ways that they

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can hurt you. Okay, look, we know about Duke, we

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know about all They' pretty much been the top two

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teams all year long. The last team I want to

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highlight is the Houston Cougars led by Kelvin Samson, but

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they have a veteran and LJ.

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Speaker 3: Cryer.

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Speaker 4: He is a fifth year graduate player. Again, it's always

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nice to have veteran leadership when you get into the

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NCAA tournament. They're just a disciplined, well coach basketball team,

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and that's going to happen when you have Kelvin Samson. Also,

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they're a lot more efficient on offense in recent years

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under Samson, we always see this team top ten, top

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five in defensive efficiency. Their offense kind of hovers around

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the thirty thirty five.

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Speaker 3: Mor they're.

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Speaker 4: Fourth in the country in scoring margin per game. This

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offense is efficient, This offense can play. The one issue

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I have with Houston they don't have a ton of height.

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Their tallest guy is Javier Francis. He plays at about

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six to eight. But they're so efficient and they smother

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you on defense, and it really hasn't mattered so far.

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Now we'll see what happens when they play a team

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like Auburn with a Dylan card Well or how they

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handle a Cooper Flag down low. But for the most part,

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their defense has been so good. They've been so well disciplined,

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they don't turn the ball over a ton. They are

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the top team in college basketball in terms of team

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defensive efficiency Number one. They play great defense. They have

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the veteran leader in LJ. Cryer, and yes, they shoot

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really good free throws. Also, they have an established coach

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who's had a lot of success, and it's had a

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lot of success there. You go look at at what

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Kelvin Samson has done there. He's taken them to an

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Elite eight before, he's taken them to a Final four.

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He's been to multiple Sweet sixteens. He's won seventy percent

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of his games as a coach. Kelvin Samson has been there,

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done that, He's been great. He also has a winning

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record in tournaments twenty six and nineteen in the March

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Madness Tournament in his career, so he knows how to

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win these big games. So when you have a big

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time coach with a graduate player at LJ. Cryer, a

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lot of talented, defensive minded pieces around them, and you're

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great when you get to the free throw line, it's

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hard to beat a team like that.

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Speaker 3: And that goes to say with all these teams.

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Speaker 4: Because the reason I wanted to highlight these three Look,

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they're in the spotlight. They're all ranked inside the top ten.

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We all know that these teams are good. They're all

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good in different ways, and they can all beat you

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in multiple ways. Houston more defensive minded. Auburn, they're going

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to shoot you to death. Duke, they just play everything

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off of Cooper Flag. He can kill you down low.

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And if you double team and he can kick it

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out to Kinniple, he can kick it out to Tyrese Proctor,

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he can kick it out to these All of these

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teams are super efficient at what they do, but they

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can all beat you in a number of different ways.

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Now again, I do think this NCAA tournament is wide open.

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I think that any team can get hot at the

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right time, whether a team.

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Speaker 3: Goes on a run.

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Speaker 4: Look Saint John's basketball team right now, it's ranked number

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six in the country because Rick Patino is their head coach.

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That is a mid major that no one's gonna want

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to play when March Madness rolls around. For the most part,

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while I think there's a lot of teams that are

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very even just from what I have viewed this year,

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class by themselves at least right now. All right, look,

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we're going to take a quick time out. When we

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get back, we're gonna get back into more local sports.

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We're gonna mention the New Orleans Saints. They cut a

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fan favorite yesterday and they are now paper thin at

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running back.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that on the other side here and

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Speaker 6: And then right after you.

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Speaker 4: Hey Thursday edition of Off the Bench Taylor Trumper. Whether

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you filling in for Jacob Hester and t Bob aber Hey?

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Right now, I want to get back to the New

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Orleans Saints. It was announced yesterday that the Saints are

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cutting ties with Jamal Williams. Look, this is a guy

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that it was a big signing a couple of years

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ago on paper when he joined the New Orleans Saints.

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He was just never able to catch on. He led

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the NFL and rushing touchdowns with the Lions the year

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before coming to New Orleans two years with the Saints

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at four hundred and seventy one yard rushing and two touchdowns.

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He couldn't stay healthy and when he was on the field,

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he wasn't a super productive guy. But what this move

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does is drastically increase your need for a running back

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because you really just don't have any.

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Speaker 3: Here's your running back room right now.

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Speaker 4: In terms of guys who have actually played Alvin Kamara,

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Kendre Miller, and Jordan Mims is a restricted free agent.

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Speaker 3: That's all you have right now, period.

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Speaker 4: So what I want to know is, Jordan, the other

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day when you were filling in for Alandra, we had

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Nick Underhill on and he said, it's seems like the

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Saints to Mago target Ashton gend in round one and

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you had a pretty brash reaction, and T Bob and

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Jake kind of gave you some crap for it.

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Speaker 3: So I want to know now.

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Speaker 4: I want to know now, with cutting Jamal Williams, you

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really only have two running backs right now, and Kendre

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Miller's been hidden us anyways by some traction, does it

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change your opinion of drafting ash and gent nine overall?

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Speaker 5: Nah, it was still cause of a met I see

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that the words grew Orland, Saints select Aston gent Boise

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standard be like like I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To raise like it's going to be your exact reaction.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Honestly, I might, I might just turn the

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TV off, But like I seen, when I've seen enough, seen.

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Speaker 4: Enough, Well let me tell you why I actually agree

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with you. I've actually come around to this idea. When

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when Gend's name was first brought up. I was like, oh, yeah,

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I'm a good player. Like, do you have bigger needs

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than running back?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Probably, but you kind of need every position. Like you're

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the New Orleans Saints. You've you've drafted bad, You've let

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go of your top players. They are high caliber play

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on other teams. Now you kind of need everything. Yeah,

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here's why I'm with you in there. This is a

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very very deep running back class right now. There's two

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running backs projected to go in the first round, Ashton

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Genty bonafide first round pick, and then a lot of

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people believe a mari And Hampton out of North Carolina

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is also going to be a first round pick. But

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there's so many other guys out there that are just

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frankly under the radar. For example, Traveon Henderson from Ohio

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State is a stud We have seen him multiple times

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in college do whatever he wanted. He's got the size.

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Oh and by the way, he ran a faster forty

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time than Quinn John Judkins at the combine. Tragion Henderson

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ran a four to three seven at the combine at

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his size. We know the college production. That's a guy

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that I mean right now. He's probably gonna go second,

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third round if that. He's a guy that's a little

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bit under the radar. What Caleb Johnson from Iowa. He's

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a hard nosed runner. We know those Iowa offenses love

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to run the football. They ran their offense through Caleb

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Johnson and they were actually pretty effective. At the other day,

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I mentioned winners of the NFL combine, but Shul Tutten

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from Virginia Tech a guy I mentioned twelve hundred yards

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last season, fifteen rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He also ran a four to three to two. He

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had the.

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Speaker 4: Fastest time of any running back in this combine. He's

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a guy that's projected to go like fourth, fifth round

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right now.

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Speaker 3: RJ. Harvey from uc he's a little bit undersized the guys. RJ.

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Speaker 4: Harvey at double digit rushing touchdowns at UCF this year.

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Speaker 3: He fifteen hundred yards rushing and if.

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Speaker 4: You remember, coming into the year, it was supposed to

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be a running back duo between RJ.

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Speaker 3: Harvey and Penny Boone.

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Speaker 4: R J. Harvey took over that backfield and never looked back.

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I mean, he was impressive, to say the least. Look

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the Saints have the first or the ninth pick in

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the first round of this year's NFL Draft. After that,

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they're at pick forty in the second round. All those

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guys I just mentioned will probably be there at pick forty.

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Caleb Johnson will be there. Treveon Henderson will be there.

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Brishard Smith from SMU had a super productive year last year,

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part of the reason SMU was able to make it

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into the College Football Playoff. Dylan Sampson may have been

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the best running back in the SEC.

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Speaker 5: I was waiting on you to say that. I'm like,

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Dylan Samson is out there and he was a dog.

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Speaker 4: Look, there were good running backs in the SEC all

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over the place. Jarq west Hunter was good at Arkansas,

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but Dylan Sampson, to me, stood out over everyone else. Yeah,

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and he did it for two seasons at Tennessee in

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the SEC. He's still a young guy. Look, he's five

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foot eighties two hundred pounds. But that's fine with me

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because at the beginning of his career he's going to

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be nothing more than a change of pace back. To

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give Alvin Camaro below. Anyways, he didn't have to be

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a big six to two bruiser. Jarkquest Hunter another I

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just mentioned five nine, two oh five. It's more than

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just those. Damian Martinez from Miami's six foot's two hundred

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and seventeen pounds.

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Speaker 5: He's a bruiser.

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Speaker 4: He has the size to be an every down running

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back in this league. Corey Kiner, who lsu Vans were mentioned,

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they remember him very well. He's five to ten, he's

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two hundred and ten pounds. Really good at Cincinnati for

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a number of years. Klum a nung guy from Ruggers,

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TODs Brooks from Texas Tech. I mean, these are all

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guys that were every down running backs in college. This

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running back class is so deep people have forgotten that

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Cam Skataboo is a person. Look if I was Skataboo,

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I would have ran the forty at the Combine. If

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Camp'skataboy ran a four or five eight in the forty

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at the Combine, he's a second round pick.

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Speaker 3: His tape speaks for itself.

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Speaker 4: What Cam Skataboo was able to do for Arizona State

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in that game against Texas, who coming into that game

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had a top five defense in all of college football

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told me everything I need to see. I don't need

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to see Campscataboo at the Underwear Olympics and the combine,

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running the three cone drill or catching passes out of

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the backfield. I saw everything I needed to know about

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Campskataboo in that game.

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Speaker 3: He was sick, he was throwing up on the sidelines.

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He came back.

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Speaker 4: He was even better after that than he was before.

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He completed a long pass. He caught a long pass,

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mossing a defender in the process. You could not stop

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him in shortyardage. Everything camp Scataboo wanted to do in

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that game behind an offensive line that was overmatched against

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a really good front in the Texas Long Horns.

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Speaker 3: It told me everything I needed to see.

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Speaker 4: Also, there are a number of free agent running backs

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this year that are available.

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Speaker 5: Well, we broke so we're not really worried about that.

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Speaker 3: I get that, but there look there's affordable option.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, same definite.

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Speaker 4: For example, Javonte Williams from the Broncos is set to

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be an unrestricted free agent. He's about to be twenty

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five years old. His rookie salary was two point two

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million dollars a year, and I don't think he played

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significantly better to command top dollar running back position. Anyways,

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that's a guy you can bring it.

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Speaker 5: I want somebody fresh. You know, I'm a fantasy football guy.

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He never lived up to the.

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Speaker 3: Higher so that's fine, but I mean.

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Speaker 5: It's sour taste. It's like saying, Brandon, how you name

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around me?

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Speaker 4: Alexander Madison's a guy. He's twenty six years old, Taylor.

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Speaker 5: Come on, come on, Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Let me, let me, let me explain something to you

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about how the free agency market works. If these were

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top dollar for Jordan, these guys are twenty five years old,

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how young do you want?

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Speaker 5: No, we can get some fresh guys from college.

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Speaker 4: I understand those guys. But if you don't, there are

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another options as well.

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Speaker 5: Madison, man, he couldn't make it work with the Raiders

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last year. You got bitch who was the guy that

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that benched before?

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Speaker 4: They're not going to do every down, Abdullah. They're not

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going to be here every down running back.

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Speaker 5: Let's like get another Jamal Williams. Like we like, we

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need to get a guy that's solid. Jamal great guy,

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better human than ballplayer, but we all players.

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Speaker 4: All of these guys in recent years have all been

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more productive than Jamal. Not not why as Jamal from

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four years ago, last two or three years. All of

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these guys have been more productive.

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Speaker 5: Jamal the signing never really made since for the beginning

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because Aysom Hill was the short YARDEDT guy.

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Speaker 4: Regardless, a guy that's a guy that's out there. You're

473
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gonna hate him because he's not nineteen years old. But

474
00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:12,880
look aj Dillon from the Backers, He's had a number

475
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,480
of big games in this league. He made He's two

476
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,640
point six million dollars with the Green Bay Packers. He's

477
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,039
a guy that could come in. You need a short

478
00:22:20,079 --> 00:22:22,039
yardage back because Jamal Williams is gone out and to

479
00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,079
Tatom Hill's injured, to all Hill Aluta, he's thirty five

480
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:24,839
years old.

481
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Speaker 3: I love Ashton Genty.

482
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 4: I think if the Saints drafted Ashton Genty, he would

483
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,240
do good things with this organization because he's a good

484
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football player. The bigger problem I have is there are

485
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a lot of options out there.

486
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Speaker 3: And you need a lot more.

487
00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 4: You need a pass catcher, you need a tight end,

488
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,519
you need help on the offensive and defensive lines. You

489
00:22:45,599 --> 00:22:48,640
need safety help desperately. You need running backs. But I

490
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mean you can get a running back at pick forty.

491
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You have the seventy first pick in the third round.

492
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You have the ninety first pick in the third round.

493
00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:59,960
You have, you have seven picks in this year's draft.

494
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Speaker 5: You have, you have a lot of picks, and all

495
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,160
seven have to be guys I need that can play immediately.

496
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,240
That's how bad we are.

497
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Speaker 4: I know you're a big time Saints fan. It don't

498
00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,359
matter who the hell they draft this year. The Saints

499
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,519
are going to be awful next year.

500
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Speaker 5: Starters.

501
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:18,079
Speaker 4: Whoever you draft their running backs is not gonna be

502
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,799
a starter. Alen Kamara is going to be the starter.

503
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,880
The thing is, grab a guy who has the ability

504
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,279
to be in every down back that is on a

505
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,759
rookie contract. If something happens to Kamara, he can side

506
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:31,279
right in. And then when Kamara moves on, because he

507
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,599
doesn't have a lot of years left, you already have

508
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,759
his replacement, Darren waiting. And that guy will only be

509
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,839
twenty four years old, which is a little too old

510
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:38,920
for Jordan. But he'll only be twenty four years old.

511
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Speaker 5: This man said, AJ Dillon, stop it, stop it.

512
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Speaker 3: AJ Dillon is twenty five years old.

513
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Speaker 5: He's wise, bro, He's will it Jordan.

514
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Speaker 3: There's a reason he's a too milly.

515
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Speaker 5: Let me explain. He is wise. I mean bro, he's wise.

516
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,000
I don't everybody on these free agent mar for AJ Dillon.

517
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:55,039
I'm just letting you know he's like the Saints. You

518
00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:56,920
should draft the running back. That's what I'm saying. I

519
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agree we should. Undred we're already clearance shop racking. We

520
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,279
can go get it.

521
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Speaker 4: Like a last say, let's say, let's say, for whatever

522
00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,440
reason after this ain't drafted nine there's a run on

523
00:24:07,519 --> 00:24:10,119
running backs. Let's just say, hypothetically, okay, you would not

524
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,240
sign AJ Dillon for a million and a half dollars

525
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:12,599
a year.

526
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Speaker 5: Maybe I still flay, you should draft the running back

527
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,240
like you just need to get that.

528
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,079
Speaker 3: But the gym's donning Paul perfectly.

529
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Speaker 5: You just named ten running backs that are going to

530
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be there in the later rounds.

531
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Speaker 3: Maybe, and it's why I mentioned them first. They're your first.

532
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,799
Speaker 5: Hey, you want agent, that's fine.

533
00:24:27,839 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: The point is a sign.

534
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Speaker 5: I just don't think AJ Dillon. I don't. I'm sure

535
00:24:31,839 --> 00:24:32,720
that's not moving a needle.

536
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: Anything I said made you think that I like AJ

537
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,359
Dillon over any of those guys draft because.

538
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Speaker 5: You're trying to do like AJ. I'm just don't. I

539
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,319
am not moved by a J Dillon or said I'm

540
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just not moving back.

541
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Speaker 4: Plan is free agency. It means it's not your first option.

542
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,319
You have to draft a running back. Draft running back,

543
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:52,240
but Ken Dre Miller can't give you anything. You still

544
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,279
need another running bafter outside.

545
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Speaker 3: Of the draft.

546
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Speaker 5: I just said draft running back. You have to no

547
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,680
question about it, and we're green on the same thing.

548
00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:00,680
You might need more than one the same thing. We

549
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,599
agree on the same thing. But when need to drop

550
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:04,480
the running back, I'm just a Dillon.

551
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,559
Speaker 3: But I don't know. If you take him first in

552
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:07,359
the first round, you.

553
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,759
Speaker 5: Kill hell no, hell no.

554
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 3: I would go tedor Roald mcmellan. I love him. I

555
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:13,880
would actually deal.

556
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm coming around to Tyler Warren in the first

557
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,039
round because.

558
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:18,319
Speaker 3: He can do a little bit of everything for you.

559
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 4: And look, the reality is Juwan Johnson said to be

560
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,319
a free agent Foster Moros on the last year of

561
00:25:23,319 --> 00:25:26,599
his deal. Yeah, Taysom Hill's not even to tight end

562
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:28,000
to begin, whether he's listed his one, but he's not

563
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,960
a true tight end anyway.

564
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,079
Speaker 5: He's he's he's hurt, so they an't worry about to.

565
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,839
Speaker 4: If you bring in a guy that you think can

566
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make an impact Round one outside of running back.

567
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Speaker 3: There's too many good guys. Whether it's an R. J.

568
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: Harvey, who I love, whether it's look but Schouel, Tutton

569
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,799
awesome at the combine, Dylan Samson awesome at the combine,

570
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,640
Trevion Anderson, Quin, Shawn Judkins, Caleb Johnson. All of these

571
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,160
guys are going to be there when you pick in

572
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,160
rounds two. Most of them are going to be there

573
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,200
in round three when you pick at seventy one. Yeah,

574
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:58,519
there's no reason to draft Ashton gent I like Ashton Gendy.

575
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Speaker 3: I think he's a good player.

576
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,079
Speaker 4: I would really call you the New Orleans States to

577
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,440
stay away from him in round one. All right, going

578
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,119
to take a quick time out. When we get back,

579
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we're gonna be joined by Ross Jackson. He was actually

580
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,880
out there at the combine and our guy drove to

581
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the combine, And first off, I'm gonna find out why

582
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:14,480
he did that. Secondly, we're gonna chop it up with

583
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,119
him about the New Orleans Saints that's coming up.

584
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Speaker 3: Next here on Off the bench, Off the bench.

585
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Speaker 4: To the bench one of four five ESPN sitting in

586
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for Jacob Hester and t Bob Abear. Right now, I

587
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,680
want to go to the phone lines, bring in Rass Jackson.

588
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He hosts Locked on Saints. He also does right ups

589
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for us at Louisiana Sports dot Net.

590
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Speaker 3: Ross, how are you today?

591
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 5: Man?

592
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Speaker 2: What's up? Buddy's doing great, doing great things for having

593
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:37,960
me on?

594
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Ross. I wanted to kind of do a

595
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,400
little combine recap.

596
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 4: But last week Matt Moscona tells me you drove to

597
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,680
the combine in Indianapolis?

598
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: Is that correct?

599
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: I did? Yes, I loved and I love long distance

600
00:26:51,279 --> 00:26:53,720
drive and so that was the longest in Troy.

601
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Speaker 3: Okay, how long did it take? Okay? I was actually

602
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,400
thinking it was gonna be a lot more more than that.

603
00:27:01,079 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's shockingly not bad. It's it's you know,

604
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,200
there's better places you could drive to in eleven hours

605
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:11,200
than Indianapolis. That can be wrong, but alter Indianapolis is awesome.

606
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,240
And so we cut it in half. We drove from

607
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,319
New Orleans to Nashville, uh, and then finished the drive

608
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,559
the next day up in Indianapolis. But it was great.

609
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 4: How how is the food seen in Indianapolis? I hear

610
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,160
it's actually pretty underrated.

611
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,799
Speaker 2: It's pretty underrated.

612
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,559
Speaker 5: It's good.

613
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: It's a lot of steak. I'm not a real meat guy,

614
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:29,839
so I don't get to enjoy it very much. But

615
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:31,400
they have some pretty good seafood and stuff like that

616
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,480
over there too. I don't typically do seafood outside of

617
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,039
New Orleans, but that's one of the cities where I'll

618
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risk it.

619
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Speaker 4: Now, now, Ross, was this your first combine to physically

620
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,000
go to.

621
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: No, this was my oh, I want to say fourth,

622
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,200
It might actually be fifth, but it was one of

623
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,160
them too. It was like a round a handful.

624
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: So okay, kind of give me a little bit of

625
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,480
a background of like the behind the scenes of the combine,

626
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,119
Like what's the coolest part of being there, because like

627
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,960
us at home, you know, we'll turn on the TV

628
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,279
and we'll see guys run a forty yard dash.

629
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 3: There's a little golf club in the background. Like what

630
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,799
do you get to see?

631
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, I love the golf class. Yeah, No, it's funny.

632
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,640
Like I actually typically leave Indianapolis before the combine drills

633
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,599
even get started. For us, it's a lot of going

634
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:20,839
kind of trying to pick up a little bit of

635
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,000
a chit chat and everything like that, like some of

636
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,400
the rumors that are going on, you know, doing some

637
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,160
of the night scene to kind of meet up and

638
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,680
have conversations and things like that, and you try to

639
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,200
like steal some of most conversations as you can. But

640
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,640
also like the way the things do things is really unique.

641
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,960
Like they don't do the podium at the combine like

642
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680
like a lot of other teams do. There's a few

643
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,880
teams that do it this way, but they kind of

644
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,400
do their own thing off the side with local media only,

645
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,200
which is really nice. And so being able to be

646
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,359
there for that, being able to be there for you know,

647
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:52,400
some of the conversations that are going and being able

648
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,000
to pick the brains to people in the know around like, hey,

649
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,519
what what's kind of going on free agent wise across

650
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,359
the NFL. Who's becoming aticle? He's not always those things.

651
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:02,839
So they're trying to pick up kind of all that

652
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,960
information from a bunch of different angles, not just the

653
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,599
New Orleans Saints angle, because you know, markets could become oversaturated,

654
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,920
which impact the way that the Saints play there, you know,

655
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:13,480
version of the markets. You kind of have to know

656
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:16,279
what's going on holistically around the league in order to

657
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,400
really understand how maybe some of the decisions that New

658
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Worlds wants to make, plans to make or would like

659
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,599
to make are are really impacted by the overall landscape

660
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:25,559
of things.

661
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: As far as like the combine itself, like stand out

662
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,640
positive or negative? Is there a guy that like surprised

663
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,279
you in a positive way or like you thought was

664
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,359
going to perform really well who maybe didn't like would

665
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,400
you kind of make of it overall?

666
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I will say this was a

667
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240
unique combine where we saw some you know, I don't

668
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,039
even remember what the number was. We saw a lot

669
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:51,279
of people not participating. So that was one that kind

670
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,400
of changed a bit of what the projection of the

671
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,160
weekend was going to be. But Nicka mounworry. The safety

672
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,160
out of South Carolina was absolutely incredible at the combine.

673
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,440
It really checked a lot of boxes. And my understanding

674
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:07,079
was that, like all of his interviews that he did

675
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:10,440
were really solid. He obviously did well at the podiums

676
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720
and things like that, but like his his testing as

677
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,400
a whole was outstanding for the day, just in terms

678
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of the way that he measured going out there and

679
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,839
running a four to four, going out there and jumping

680
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,839
forty three inches with an eleven foot broad jump, like

681
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000
just amazing performance by him. So he was probably a

682
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,839
guy that really stood out. And I think another one

683
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,359
that stood out that we kind of expected to be

684
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200
the cases Texas A and M defensive end Shamar Stewart.

685
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:40,880
Schwarz Stewart was outstanding in terms of his testing. He

686
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:44,200
just lacks a lot of college collegiate production and mont

687
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,440
Worry does not lack that collegiate production. So for me,

688
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,279
he was the standout.

689
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a guy that you know, an anytime I've

690
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:53,279
heard about positive standouts, em and Warry is kind of

691
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:55,799
the first name out of their mouths. And also he's

692
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,880
six three to twenty at the safety position. That's a

693
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440
guy that's going to come off the board a lot earlier. Nick,

694
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,519
I mean, I'm sorry we had Nick on yesterday. Ross

695
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,079
Jackson joined in a strud Now, as far as the

696
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,440
Saints in Round one, we have seen a variety of

697
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,079
people being mocked to them. I mean, we've seen Tyler Warren,

698
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,720
Ashton Gent, We've seen defensive linemen. In your opinion, where

699
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,000
should the Saints go in Round one?

700
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,599
Speaker 2: My number one prospect for them is Keteralal McMillan, the

701
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:28,319
wide receiver out of out of Arizona. I think he's

702
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:31,640
the one that has the biggest, most immediate impact. The

703
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,359
Saints are clear that they're they're they're intending to compete

704
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,960
here in twenty twenty five. And if you're going to

705
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:38,920
do that, then go and get somebody in that first

706
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,359
round that's immediately going to have an impact for you. Right,

707
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680
you're probably not in the position in that case to

708
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,039
draft somebody that you look feel like you can develop

709
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,039
some kind of project or something like that. You got

710
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,480
to go and get a short fire guy. Keterrold McMillan

711
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:52,799
is a short fire guy. He would be an excellent

712
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,640
compliment to guys like Chris Lave and Rashid Shaheed. So

713
00:31:55,799 --> 00:32:00,480
he's up there. Kind of My one, be like really close.

714
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,359
Number two would be Michigan defensive tackle Mason Graham. Should

715
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,400
he fall, I don't know if he makes it to them,

716
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,640
but I mean, look, the things have work to do

717
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880
on both sides of their trenches. I think the defensive

718
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,400
tackle class is deeper than the wide receiver class is

719
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,400
when it comes to top talent. But you know, if

720
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
a guy like Mason Graham falls, that that's a pretty

721
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,359
easy one to get excited about. And then the last

722
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:21,839
one that I'll mention, I think is the one that

723
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,200
was most mentioned around the New Orland states in Indianapolis

724
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,279
with Penncety tight end Tyler Warren. I'm typically not a

725
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,039
tight end in the first round guy, or a tight

726
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:34,200
end in the top fifteen guy, probably more appropriately, because

727
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,359
it's typically a position that takes a long time, a

728
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,079
couple of years to translate to the NFL. But a

729
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:42,599
guy like Tyler Warren who's already a solid blocker, which

730
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,480
is a lot of the reasons why it's typically tougher

731
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,240
to transition. In college, you're like a pass catcher, right,

732
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:50,079
You're just another wide receiver in AA a lot of times.

733
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:51,680
And then after that when you get to the NFL,

734
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,319
all of a sudden, you have to learn protections and

735
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:54,960
all this stuff. It's all that Warren plays in a

736
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,599
big ten. There's a lot of projection protection that goes

737
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,160
on in the big tent, a lot of blocking that

738
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,160
goes on to the big vent, the punt conference. And

739
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,519
so I think a guy like Tyler Warren maybe can

740
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,799
transition a little bit faster than most tight ends can,

741
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,160
and so he could be a guy that has an

742
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000
immediate impact for New Orleans as well well.

743
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Speaker 4: So that kind of leads me into the next point.

744
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,079
If it's not Tyler Warren in round one, where do

745
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:20,559
you think the tight end position is? Maybe like on

746
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,640
the Saints priority list and like are there any guys

747
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,920
you like maybe second, third round?

748
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I think it's on their priority

749
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,720
list to address a couple of times, and that could

750
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,079
be resigning Juwan Johnson and a new acquisition. It can

751
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,359
be a pair of new acquisitions, like there's there's there's

752
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,359
multiple ways to kind of address the spot for sure,

753
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:39,400
But I think that's the spot that they're looking to address.

754
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,599
Duwan's going into a free agency boss tomorrow, as well

755
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,759
as Tayson milli book coming off of injury. You've got

756
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:49,079
a young guy in Dallan Hulker who's really promising, but

757
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,759
you haven't gotten to feel out of them yet. I

758
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,599
think you've got a couple of guys that are coming through,

759
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:54,960
you know, Trayton Welsh as well as Michael Jacobson that

760
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,400
are coming off with future deals and you know kind

761
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,039
of practice squad years and stuff like that, and so

762
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:02,599
I would absolutely see them addressing that position. I think

763
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:04,559
it's on their priority list. I don't know where it

764
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:06,000
is on their priority list because it's going to depend

765
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,960
on how deep the priority list is. Right, Like, they

766
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,599
got a lot of work to do this offseason on

767
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,199
their roster, but I do know that they want to

768
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,519
address it multiple times, and so I think the draft

769
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:16,480
makes a lot of sense. Tacond and third round guys

770
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,639
that makes sense. Harold Fanning Junior out of Bowling Green,

771
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:20,400
probably the best tight end in the country when it

772
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,280
came to production, outstanding a little bit undersize those maybe

773
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,159
doesn't check the boxes for New Orleans Terns been all

774
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,639
around guy that has worked for Kellen Moore. So one

775
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,159
guy that comes to mind, and I'm probably going to

776
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:31,440
catch a lot of flack for this because he's an

777
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:34,960
LSU Tiger, But Mason Taylor, Man, he makes sense. Look,

778
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,559
I get it. The New Orleantons haven't often invested in

779
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,599
LSU players. The last one is they drafted, if I

780
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,599
remember correctly, it was Will Clapp years ago, so they

781
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:44,639
kind of overdue. They typically do this on a rotation

782
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,639
of like every nine years on average, they end up

783
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,519
stillcting some LGU player. They'll all overdo on it. And

784
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:51,039
I think Mason Taylor is a guy that makes sense,

785
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:53,800
has that thing kind of all around perspective. Ken Block,

786
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,159
can catch, can run routes. I think he would be

787
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:57,559
another guy that I would absolutely want.

788
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: Well Jackson join right now, host of lucked on Saints

789
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,719
and Our Saints writer for Louisianasports dot Net.

790
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: We're all. The good news is the Saints need every position,

791
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,960
so you can't really go wrong.

792
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,559
Speaker 4: The bad news is they pretty much need every position

793
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:15,800
right as far as a late round target, I'm not

794
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,119
even talking like mainly position, but like if there is

795
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:21,400
a guy that falls late round and the Saints are thinking, hey,

796
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,599
maybe best available. If there's a guy out there who's

797
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,119
there in the late rounds, do you want the Saints

798
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:25,400
to grab?

799
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: Is there a guy out there?

800
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: Missouri edge rusher Johnny Walker conor Johnny Walker Junior? To

801
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:33,719
me is the dude that is just like one of

802
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,360
those guys that, to me is going to be the

803
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,599
steal of the draft wherever he goes unless he's skyrockets. Right.

804
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:41,559
If he skyrockets, then obviously things change, but because then

805
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,360
the expectations will be higher. But if he's drafted in

806
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,280
Day three, six foot three, two hundred and fifty undred

807
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,519
and fifty ish pounds, stand up edge rusher was the

808
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:56,039
Cotton Bowl Defensive Player Defensive MVP when when Missouri played

809
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:57,679
in the Cotton Bowl a couple of years ago. Nine

810
00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:00,480
and a half sacks last season, but again two sacks

811
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:04,119
against Alabama and everything to force three fumbles. So he

812
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,159
affects the ball when he gets to the gets to

813
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:09,920
the players as well, and is just a hyper athletic player.

814
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,960
I think in Brandon Staley's defense in particular, where you're

815
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,599
looking for that type of mold, the pass rusher, the

816
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,800
stand up speed pass rusher, the Leonard Floyd type. If

817
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,480
you're able to get a Johnny Walker junior in the fifth, sixth,

818
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:25,119
or seventh round, I don't care you do it. You're

819
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,800
your role that dice. You got to trade up to

820
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,239
the fifth to do it if you've got a state

821
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,719
point and the sixth to do it, whatever it is.

822
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,239
If you're able to get into that day three range,

823
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480
I think he's a guy that's well worth invest again

824
00:36:34,519 --> 00:36:37,400
at that point. And I'll also throw in also one

825
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,239
of my favorite names in the draft, by the way,

826
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Mac McWilliams. Isn't that awesome, dude. Mac McWilliams, the cornerback

827
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,960
out a UCF like great physical build, has a lot

828
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,199
of production, makes a lot of players at the ball,

829
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,559
good scheme, versatility playing, and that that that central Florida defense.

830
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,440
I think he's another one that I would I would

831
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,039
highlight as well.

832
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,039
Speaker 4: Well before we get you out of here, look the

833
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:06,239
Saints since hiring Kellen Moore, They've hired Brandon Staley, a's DC. Youah,

834
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,159
Doug Nlsmeyer's OC. They just announced they're bringing in Scott Lenahan.

835
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,760
You hire Bo Davis away from LSU. What have you

836
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,199
made of the staff that Kellen Morris put together so far?

837
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 7: Yeah?

838
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: I like the structure of the staff. I think there's

839
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,679
two things to highlight. I think there's the hires, which

840
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:25,199
are the individual names of those coaches and with their

841
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,039
backgrounds are and all of those things. I like the

842
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,440
fact that he's got two, you know, former head coaches

843
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:32,440
on his coaching staff. I like the fact that he

844
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:36,239
brought Doug Nutsmeyer back to Louisiana and did it with

845
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,000
a you know, bringing him in as the guy that

846
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:39,800
kind of balances him out a little bit, as he

847
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,000
describes it. But the other piece that I really like

848
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:44,239
is the structure of the coaching staff, particularly open the

849
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,440
defensive side. The things feel like with their hires that

850
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,039
they're going to maybe have like a passing game coordinator,

851
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:54,119
a safety's coach, and a quarnerbacks coach as opposed to

852
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,440
a defensive backs coach, And I like that. I like

853
00:37:56,519 --> 00:38:00,519
being able to translate the game immediately to one position group.

854
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,639
It sounds like, or it looks like they might have

855
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,920
like an inside linebacker versus outside linebacker coach, which kind

856
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,639
of shows you a little bit about what their plans

857
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:09,960
are for their pass rush and changing that. So I

858
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,440
think the structure of the defensive coaching staff, which is

859
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,800
really replicating what Brandon Staley had in twenty twenty with

860
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,639
the Los Angeles Rams, I think shows you exactly what

861
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:20,920
it is that this team is looking to do on

862
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:22,800
the defensive side. So that's the other thing that at

863
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,760
highlight that I think is a plus in terms of

864
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,960
the way they've structured this roster. But the former head

865
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,400
coaches on the coaching staff roster with a first time

866
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,079
head coach, I think is an excellent move by Kellen Moore.

867
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: All right, Roster Jackson our guest right now, Ross, thanks

868
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,920
for hopping on with me today, man Hey.

869
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,639
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, but take care say say thanks much

870
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:41,800
for having me on. I thought to you here soon.

871
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,559
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

872
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: That's Ralsea Jackson with Locked On Saints and our Saints

873
00:38:46,159 --> 00:38:48,880
staff writer here at Luisianasports dot nata.

874
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,039
Speaker 3: Right, we're going to take a quick time out.

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00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:51,639
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902
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we have to hit that hardbreak. What to mention thing

903
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that happened yesterday afternoon right after we got off the air.

904
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,320
The Los Angeles Chargers have released defensive end Joey Bosa.

905
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,320
He was the longest ten yeared player and he was

906
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,280
the last player that was left over from before they

907
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480
were in LA. When they moved to San Diego to

908
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:22,000
LA back in twenty seventeen, he was the last remaining player. Look,

909
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,639
he's a guy that's still just twenty nine years old.

910
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,920
He was a number three pick in the twenty sixteen draft.

911
00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:30,719
Seventy two career sacks that puts him second in franchise

912
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,119
history behind Leslie O'Neil. He was Defensive Rookie of the

913
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:37,159
Year in twenty sixteen ten and a half sacks, seventeen

914
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:40,440
tackles for a loss. They gave him one hundred and

915
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:44,280
thirty five million dollar contract extension in twenty twenty. And

916
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,039
it's one of those things that after you give a

917
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:50,440
guy a lot of money, injuries and whatever else is

918
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:51,880
the case, it's going to keep them off the field.

919
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,360
Keeps him off the field. That's the issue with Joey Bosa.

920
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,960
Bosa was always a really talented player when he was

921
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,039
on the field. I mean, you hear Jacob Pester on

922
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:02,280
this show all the time talk about Joey Bosa. He's

923
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,599
not always available and that was the issue. I mean again,

924
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:07,960
when he was healthy, he remained one of their most

925
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:12,719
effective pass rushers. In the playoff loss of this past

926
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,800
year to the Houston Texans, he had six pressures, he

927
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,719
had a sack on CJ.

928
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 3: Stroud.

929
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: But he's just been in and out of the lineup

930
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,119
so much. They cut him. That saves them almost twenty

931
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:28,440
six million dollars in cap space. Look, Bosa said at

932
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,360
one time he wanted to be a Charger for life,

933
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,320
but look, they cut him. The Chargers now have ninety

934
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,000
point six million dollars in cap space. It'll be interesting

935
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,480
to see what they do here. I'm gonna be really

936
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,679
interested to see where Joey Bosa goes one because he's

937
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:46,960
still relatively young player at twenty nine years old. He's

938
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,559
been a productive player, win healthy, and win on the field.

939
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,559
He's been in and out of the lineup for injuries. Also,

940
00:41:53,159 --> 00:41:57,119
Max Crosby just completely reset the defensive end market yesterday

941
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:01,079
he was He is now the highest paid non quarterback

942
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:05,119
in NFL history. He has a one hundred million dollar contract,

943
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:09,440
you know, eighty five million of it guaranteed. Look, Michael

944
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,360
Parson still needs a new deal. Joey Bosa is going somewhere,

945
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Miles Garrett, if he gets traded somewhere, is his deal

946
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going to be restructured? How are these things going to look?

947
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It's always interesting when one guy gets paid a ton

948
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of money at one position and there's still a lot

949
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of other top talent left to go to be interested

950
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to see where Bosa goes, what kind of money he gets, Parsons, Garrett,

951
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all these guys, all right, Look, we.

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Speaker 3: Have one more hour left. We're gonna a big deal

953
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or no big deal at nine am and then nine

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Speaker 4: To fifteen our Munchie segment with chef Michael Johnson off

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the bench,