Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the final Jurassic
Park slash Jurassic World retrospective. I am the Camouflaged trast
now and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By the blue Katzer.
Speaker 3: I enjoy that you're wearing a blue shirt for that too,
Thank you. I don't know if that was planned, but
just throwing it.
Speaker 4: Out there, Sure it wasn't, but the name was chosen
around the shirt, I'd say perfect.
Speaker 3: I am the Raptor Tamer, Jessica.
Speaker 5: I am the archrenan momus, you should see hear how
you sound trying to pronounce that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, when he says that, like, did did she pronounce
it wrong? Taylor?
Speaker 5: What do you mean pronounce it wrong?
Speaker 4: Like in the movie when she's in the movie. Yeah,
it's like you should try to hear a kid say that.
Speaker 7: No, because that's like, that's the term they gave it.
Our ark is the fucking word, ourchrenan miimas.
Speaker 1: But it's just so weird when she goes he says that,
and then she's like, oh, like you should hear a
kid try to pronounce that, And then Owen's like, we
should hear you try to pronounce it.
Speaker 4: But he's just yeah, I think so, I got a lot.
It's like a weird, weird word that she's saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, this is the last one. I'm not
sure exactly when this is releasing for the public. That's
why you always head over the Patreon plugging that early
because you can get this the day it's recorded on
your feeds. But, uh, Jurassic World is just a less
I can at least say this. It's less than a
week away. When this one opens up. The Minanteo is
very excited, so that's gonna be a good time with that.
And then yeah, after this, we're gonna re release The
Fallen Kingdom, the infamous Fallen Kingdom review. I have to
maybe listen to you see there's any tensions on there,
but I think me and Taylor were pretty We got
it online by carry gonna review this movie. But we'll
re release that and then the movie is gonna be there.
But this week is packed because you'll have an Obi
one episode four, you have the first episode of Miss Marvel,
You'll have the Boys the first three episodes. So it's
just a crazy week. Uh tear Field, where can they
find that?
Speaker 7: All ladies tell me you can find us with your interconnection
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One's a Colon show and yeah, lots of good stuff.
Strikers is a week away, The Gauntlet Retaliation Events is
gonna drop, the team title match with Kirkland and Sara's
versus Me and Taylor, the Striker's Cup. So just tons
of stuff, So go follow the social media feeds. Kirk Batzer,
I'm gonna start off with you. You know you got
your blue shirt there the name is blue. What did
you Well, I guess because so this one came out,
like I said last I guess week or night when
we were recorded a dress Park three. But this came
out like a few maybe just even a month, because
well this came out I think June of the year
it happened. And gee, first It recorded its first episode
in July, but all like August is kind of the
time it launched because it's a weird thing.
Speaker 6: Ra Apple had to approve it.
Speaker 1: But I remember it was like just on the precipice
of our very first topic for Geek Firsts was you're
gonna go around and we're gonna name one thing that
we've loved in the year so far and then one
thing we didn't like. And the reason we did that
is or we were disappointed, and the reason we did
that is because like, okay, Apple has to prove this
episode and everything like that. So I remember, Taylor, that
was the thing you like. I think we're really close
to it. But Kirka Patz or did you see this
in theaters? What were your thoughts when you first saw it?
Speaker 6: And what are your thoughts now?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 6: This came out in twenty fifteen, so god, seven years later.
Speaker 2: My god, yeah, I'm pretty sure I did see this
one in theaters.
Speaker 4: This definitely would have been around the time when uh
oh no, actually, I was gonna say this is before
I was even with Shae. Yeah, because I was gonna
say I would have just been getting free movies all
the time. But no, this is pretty she Era actually,
and I do remember seeing in theaters, but like before Shae,
I never really went to theaters unless it was like
it was really random, like I would only really go
to like the cheap theater like on the West Side here.
So I want to say, one of you fuckers probably
took me to this one.
Speaker 5: Actually wasn't me.
Speaker 6: I thought we did see it, like, well, I don't.
Speaker 1: I know I saw this with Kyle, and I know
Liam was there, but I don't know if we saw
it in like a group, because I think Dale might
have been there too, so it might have been you know,
back in the day when we all used to be
friends and actually movies together and now we don't we all.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was something use I don't know
who I would have gone to see this movie with
other than you guys, so because I definitely do remember
seeing in theaters. But nonetheless I remember really really liking it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's uh, it was along those lines of like I
think people were kind of comparing it to like Force Awakens,
how it was pretty similar to like what the first
movie was, whether it was that one a new hope
this one is Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: But still I.
Speaker 4: Did a good job in my opinion, to just build
upon that and like separate it from the sequels to
the Jurassic Park movies.
Speaker 2: Like it it.
Speaker 4: I think the scale of this movie really fits the
name of Jassic World. Like there's so many sections of
like like we just did Jurassic Park three, so like
Dress for three, like a big threat in there is
the terodactyls, and like there's terodactyls in this one, along
with every other threat that we faced like throughout the
Jassic parks. So I think it it fits that, like
that name is fitting.
Speaker 2: Really like it.
Speaker 4: It does feel like a world there's never been so
many like like civilians that are like basically casualties, but
also just like in in in Danger really like all
the other ones, it's basically like a skeleton crew working
in the park or maybe maybe the exception when the dinos.
Speaker 2: Go to the mainland.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, but still, like I think this one
just put the amount of people on Durssic World, Like
the scale of it is just so much bigger than
when any of those other Dress Park movies did. And
Chris Patrolly charming. I think Bryce Tell's Howard. I think
I liked her a lot more initially nowadays, like now
on this viewing, it's just like, oh, she's just kind
of she's kind of like a bad, bad guardian for
these kids and just just really like wrapped up in
her in her in her work life, and I think
some of her motiv motivations and the switches to her
character kind of seem a little unnatural, like a little
unbelievable in certain moments. But I think she's again, she's
charming enough to like make it fun. The relationship between
her and Chris Pratt is really fun, and all in all,
like I think this is a solid movie. It definitely
borders on the lines of like this is getting a
little too wacky with like the gene splicing and like
like Fallen Kingdom, it just takes that and like runs
away with it. I think that's why I really don't
like that movie, because there's a couple of things, specifically
with the Indominus Rex. Where I watch this movie, it's
just like I rally, Whereas like if I compare to
the first Drastic Park, like I think that movie is
just kind of timeless because they're not like making these
these thermal recognizing like dinos that like are literally made
to kill, Like it's just dinos and like this is
a zoo to go watch dinos that you know, I
won't even get into Fallen Kingdom.
Speaker 2: That's for another episode that I won't be a part of.
Speaker 6: We're not recording that episode we just saw you see.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just said that I won't be a
part of.
Speaker 6: Said no, that's such bullshit because.
Speaker 1: For breaking the fourth wall in our group chat today,
You're like, oh, are we recording Drastic Fallen Kingdom or
just World? And then I respond a little bit later
because as at work and they had like clarified and stuff,
and You're like, no, I already know, like you dumped
me Gift, Like, well I know that already. Here you
are again being like, well, I'm not gonna be on
an episode. There is no episode. There is no episode,
no exactly.
Speaker 4: And that's the whole controversy because I was so fucking
pissed when I the.
Speaker 2: Only reason, you know, the only reason.
Speaker 4: Why Sophoe and Kingdom was to review it, and then
all of a sudden, everybody's hating on it. And then
Taylor's like, no, I'm not reviewing if everybody's gonna shoot
on it. And I remember that was like the first
one of the podcast where I was like actually pissed
off that something happened like behind the scenes, so I
couldn't like just just give my angry thoughts on this movie.
But nonetheless, it's all coming out now and I'm not,
like I said, I'm not even gonna be on that episode,
so I'm not mad.
Speaker 2: I don't have to rewatch it.
Speaker 6: No, I just feel like you still you keep thinking
there is gonna be a rat show and something.
Speaker 2: No, I just got I got leftover salt for that
whole I was just if we.
Speaker 1: Had to just because next week so busy I did
plan ust to rewatch and even just re review it.
Speaker 6: But no, we were just soad.
Speaker 4: I mean I might because Shane and I have and
watching like all these up like all these movies already
leading up to it, so it's like one more I
can't stop now exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm definitely watching it too, like even though we're
not doing an episode, I'm gonna rewatch it and get.
Speaker 4: It's a cliffanger technically for like leading into the third
one right with how it ends, like watching.
Speaker 3: Everyone's watching it all I'm saying, we can just hop on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, time is the essence and stuff like that. So
Kirk on your final thoughts.
Speaker 2: My final thoughts. Yeah know, I think this is a
solid movie.
Speaker 4: I I feel like I don't know exactly where where
it lands on like my overall ratings as of right now,
Like I have a general idea. I know it's above
above two right now, but you know, by the end
of this episode, I'll have a solid rating. But oh no,
I think it is definitely solid. Lesser than the first movie,
but I think I think having someone like Chris Bratt
really helped this movie though, Like having like a really
Charismo type dude, Like this is the same same kind
of era of Guardians one, right, like twenty fourteen years
Guardians one. Yeah, so yeah, no, it really really helped.
I think having him in there, because there was a
lot of moments that maybe I would have not been
falling in love with the movie, but he was on
screen and just making making it more enjoyable. The kids
are fucking annoying for trying was like bringing that up
maybe like after we first watched it. I didn't really
think of it at the time, but now watching it,
it's like, oh my god, these kids are just there's
something else I love of this. Like the older ones
just always like schmoozing other chicks. Like he's not faithful
to this girlfriend that he has.
Speaker 1: Is such a weird plot to like a weird plot
line to put in this movie, like we're gonna have
this like little sister kid who was like she not
his girlfriend at home, But it's just like nothing really
comes of it. It's just he's just always like they
should just made him single, they should just made him single.
So he's just like flirting all It's just like it's
very strange.
Speaker 6: It's very strange.
Speaker 1: But you know what now, once I saw a fallen kingdom,
these kids are like fucking Christian Bale compared to like
Jessic Smith and everything. So that's like, honestly, I've lessened
on these kids I have.
Speaker 6: Like I don't think I hate No, I never hate them.
I don't think I'm as annoyed as I was.
Speaker 1: Maybe it helps that now I'm just at home and
if I get if I don't like it, I just
like put the take the phone out.
Speaker 6: And everything like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you said it's at least above a two.
I thought you're talking like a number rating. It's like fog.
This is pretty low for kirk it's at least above two.
Speaker 6: Too, Yeah, which still scares me because you're not saying
at least about three as well.
Speaker 2: But the other part three more. I like three more
than number two.
Speaker 6: No, I know, but it still scares me that you
still might put three above this, like, don't spoit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a final rankings after Drastic World dominion.
But still like scary times we live in. But another
person that loved Drastic Park three misguidedly was Jessica. Jessica,
what do you think of Jurassic World the semi you know,
reboot sequel, legacy sequel that happened two thousand and three,
So what he had about twelve years after Jurassic Park three.
Speaker 3: I had a fun time rewatching this. I don't remember
the OG watch. I don't know if I was on
that review. I don't remember if I saw this in theaters.
Speaker 1: I just said that this happened before the podcast. You're like, Kirkling,
you're half listened to me. There's there would be that.
Speaker 3: We recorded it or watched it as a group.
Speaker 1: No, we went around the room and we said what
was everyone's favorite thing in the year, And I remember
Taylor's favorite thing was dressed.
Speaker 7: I can't confirm, though, Travis, that I think I know.
I'm pretty sure I know you and me did see
this together in some shape or form, and I will
defer it to an example my evidence when I go.
Speaker 6: What the fuck does that?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 5: I remember, Travis though, for a specific reason.
Speaker 3: But did you guys hang out like pre podcast outside
of Target?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well you we you did as well. I had two
house parties you came to. That was all.
Speaker 6: That was all pre podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Richard wasn't invited, but.
Speaker 6: I don't know both. Richard actually showed up, but I
didn't let him. That's a that's the original story. We'll
get into that.
Speaker 1: We'll get into the Target party where some guy tried
to invite himself to my party and I was not
having anything.
Speaker 5: I remember people freaking out about that, but.
Speaker 6: When I shut that ship down real quickly. Any way, So, no,
we did not review this movie because gee, first was
didn't even exist yet. We're he couldn't want me to podcast.
Speaker 3: I thoroughly enjoyed this movie upon rewatch. As I said
with three. You know, I like all the dinosaurs, I
like all the action, and you know, that was what
I said kind of about one of my problems with
the first one was that there is just a lot
of story building and a lot of talking. And for me,
you know, I have a funner time watching all the
dinosaurs and watching all the action. So for me, I
really enjoyed this. It's nice that the animation the CGI
was starting to get quite a bit better, you know,
compared to three. You know, obviously a little bit of
a time jump. Chris Pratt of course obviously helps. Uh. Yeah,
Kirklan mentioned he was kind of already up and at
that time.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I said he was up and coming.
I just feel like you said, this.
Speaker 1: First movie, I have to look at the filming of
it because I really want to know, because Guardians came
out to twenty fourteen and they had to be filming
this before, so it's like either way he was going
to have a hit on his hands. It's almost like
they just got really lucky that Guardians bloket and I
could be wrong, and there probably was people at Marvel
being like, yeah, this guy's really good.
Speaker 6: But I want to look back.
Speaker 1: I should have before this podcast to see when they
both started filming and if it was just he got
two good gigs, or if they kind of if it
fit like it definitely because Guardians came out August of
twenty fourteen, This came out in June, it would have
definitely been filming that point. So again, they probably wouldn't
have known Chris Patt was going to be this big star,
so they just got really lucky. I think Guardian's help
because it did get people like I didn't watch Community
that he was on, Like, I had no idea who
Chris Parks was or Parks, I thank you they go.
Speaker 6: I didn't watch you that either.
Speaker 1: So like I had no idea who this guy was.
I think I saw him and wanted was that before
after this though?
Speaker 6: What year was that?
Speaker 2: That must have been after?
Speaker 6: I think it's after Lego movie?
Speaker 2: Right, Lego movie?
Speaker 3: Okay, so before Guardians.
Speaker 1: Actually Chris Pratt, he's got a good Agian Chris Bran,
you know, Zach Efron's like, what the fuck happened?
Speaker 6: Look look at look at this guy Chris.
Speaker 1: Pratt, who's just on Parks and Wreck and he's and
everything now he's married daughter. Yeah, I go watch fires
Starter on Peacock if I can make worse than me
the year but oh boy, yes.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so the other person, Bryce Howard or Dallas, Yeah,
I don't. I'm sure I know what else she's been in,
but off the top of my head, I have no
idea what else she's been in. And yeah, I think
this is a fun concept. I know you guys don't
necessarily like the genes plicing, but for me, I, you know,
find it kind of interesting. And then looking at it
from the prospect of where they're taking these other genomes
in to fill in spaces, and then how it kind
of turns and it takes different pieces of these genes.
I think it's a fun concept. I do think Fallen Kingdom,
you know, goes too far with it. I think this
is a good start to it. I do have some
problems with kind of how everything falls to pieces, but overall,
I think it is a fun concept.
Speaker 6: Yeah, feels like there's a butt.
Speaker 3: Pause, though you know, there's obviously some kind of weird
things that happen, you know, just off the top of
my head. One that really bothered me is the Timidon
or whatever it was called isn't indicates.
Speaker 6: You? But you had a problem with them camouflaging.
Speaker 3: No, well, he's in the he's in the cage, and they're,
oh my gosh, there's no heat signals, and so she's like,
I got to go to the control room and then
they have no confirmation where this dinosaur is and they're like,
let's go walk into this cage and go look around,
and yeah, not smart, just you know, things that are
just so stupid. There's no at least, you know, power
going down, and then the fence is an electric you know,
that's somewhat plausible, But I really feel like going into
this genetically modified dinosaur cage is super Like anyone with
some kind of street sense would be like, this is
not a good idea.
Speaker 7: You don't think the scratches in the walls were an
extra like kick kicker for them thinking like, oh, like
it looks like it definitely clawed its way up.
Speaker 1: So but like here's here's the thing. And like also,
so got my overall in your overall tailor. But like
you're telling me this this thing got under or over
the wall, no one would have noticed, Like, no one
would have noticed this massive t rex like figure walking
through the park. Like that's the problem where it's just
like if it was when the raptors, be like, okay, yeah,
maybe that got out and maybe we can't find that.
But like this huge the thing that's called the Adominus
rex is out there and no one saw it leave.
That's where it's just yeah, I agree, where it's like
what the fuck are we doing in the cage here.
There's a couple of moments where it's just set up
for like action or set up for like, oh we
got to have this big scene or you know.
Speaker 3: The claw marks don't look like it climbed out either.
It looks like it went to the wall and like
scraped one spot and then walked away. It's not like
all the way up the wall like climbing.
Speaker 6: Can you confirm to.
Speaker 5: It wrote its name and then I mean I'm not
I'm not there. Rex critter can't do so that's fair.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Instead, so we didn't get much time to study it.
You know, it's only a live for so long.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I'll leave it at that for now and
chime in when the time is necessary.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll go next that.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because we talk about at least I
always bring with Jurassic Park that of course it was
a big hit, big movie this, so they're gonna make sequels, right,
But I feel like if you watch Durrassic Park, that
is a solo story, with the character development where we are,
there should be no reason for a sequel. They try
in two and three define reasons, but it's just still
even two, which I.
Speaker 6: Like more than three.
Speaker 1: It's like, eh, it's kind of a stretch, just kind
of stretch.
Speaker 6: These things are happening, But I go with it.
Speaker 1: I like dinosaurs, I like the I think this is
kind of the exception to the rule. And it's funny
because when this movie ended, I had the exact same
feeling as Drassic Park.
Speaker 3: Run.
Speaker 1: You know what, They don't need to do another one.
This is like a perfect send off, what a great
kind of coming home. And now here we are, we're
going to a trilogy and we'll probably get like six
more movies. But I thought, man, this is a perfect
another end point if you were gonna do a sequel,
is this movie perfect?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But the story of I love the gimmick of when
I heard it or saw try however, I heard about
the idea of okay, the Drassic Park for Drastic.
Speaker 6: World yet da da.
Speaker 1: But when you hear the pitch of oh, this movie's out,
what if the park actually worked, and that's was like, oh, okay,
that's really cool, and especially you would believe it. That's
nineteen ninety three, this is over, you know, twenty years
later you'd think, okay, maybe we could pull it off
at this point. So that's where it's like, if there
was gonna be a sequel, to me, this was the
only logical type of thing. So that's where just the
plot point wise it has over the other sequels for me.
I like the cast. I feel like I like Chris Pratt.
I know a lot of people don't like him. I
go back and forth him in this movie because I
like him being Chris Pratt. But there's also he's just
some of the line readings he has. He's very wooden,
and I know that the type of character, but he
feels very much like a exposition machine, and just the
way he talks does not feel natural at all.
Speaker 6: And sometimes that's the point. Sometimes that's not. But I
like him.
Speaker 1: He's a charismatic guy, he has some good one liners.
He can lead a movie. So I like Chris Patt.
I really like Bryce Style's hard. I think she's actually
the best one in the whole movie. From a comedic
standpoint to an emotional standpoint, she just delivers on all
the beats. And I was happy for this was a
big break up because yeah, tell you mentioned she's a
Twilight and yeah she's an inspierman. But always felt like
she was never.
Speaker 6: The main one.
Speaker 1: And you know, she did Black mean and a few
years ago. Now she's directing. She's a great director. Hopefully
she does a Star Wars movie soon because she does
Banger episode.
Speaker 6: So overall, I quite enjoy the movie.
Speaker 1: I think when I first saw the movie, I was
at like a high high and then I've definitely come
down from there, but not like so down where I
disliked the movie or anything like that. I think it's
probably I don't know. I guess I won't say that.
I wait to the rankings, but it would rank high
in the rankings. I'll say that because of how clever
some of the things are. I don't actually have a
problem with the gene spicing or all that DNA stuff
in this movie.
Speaker 6: I really don't. I think this is fine.
Speaker 1: Of they talk about the themes, and that's why I
like this one more because this feels like again we're
talking about Drastic Park three and I compared to the
Top Gun sequel, this feels like the Top Gun sequel
of that, like Summer where it was like that you know,
fist pump and raw ra blockbuster crowd pleaser that was this.
But the good thing is it still had some backbone
to it. And there's multiple moments when they're kind of
talking about animal cruelty or talking about society where oh,
you know, a t rex isn't good enough anymore, Raptor's
not good enough anymore. We got to go bigger, and
you know, a company's gonna buy and name it after.
So that's why the DNA stuff I actually bought and
liked in this movie, because like I would find that plausible.
Of Okay, this park has been open for years, people
are not caring with the dinosaurs anymore. What more can
you do? And like they already established it. Yeah, these
are dinosaurs, but they're not really. They're just created out
of a test tube, you know, like they're not naturally
created dinosaurs, so they're not real. Even beady wongs like
you told me to take things out to make them
look more like a marketable and stuff. So I think
they actually not as much as the original drastic work,
but hit on some really good themes. Any cons I have,
I think, yeah, there's some moments like Jessica brought up.
I think that happens throughout where they just set up
moments for for something to happen, just some action, and
you know, some are better.
Speaker 6: Some aren't. H Yeah, the kids they're they're there, right,
They're fine.
Speaker 1: I think most stuff it's like little details, like I
don't mind there being a romantic slant, but I think
that's kind of mishandled. I think like when the kiss happens,
it's really early. I don't really like that they had
some sort of dating relationship before. Chris Pratt has some
like jokes that they're not like sexist, they're just like
not well written, like they're just like the lowest common
denominator of Like this is a sixth grader making these
jokes about girls and stuff like, I don't know, it's
like they're trying to go for that hansol a Laya thing,
but it's not exactly there. But it's it's a great
spectacle movie. I do really enjoy it. I always like
rewatching it. There's some good side characters, just like we
talked about in uh I guess it's public now Jimmy
Smith's and stars, but also Kenobi, Vincent Danofie or Dona
Frio is one of just the best underrated actors.
Speaker 6: You believe.
Speaker 1: He's just this piece of shit guy who wants these
raptors like he does not feel like VINCENTOFFI.
Speaker 6: You look at this guy.
Speaker 1: He does this, he has kingpin, he does you know
that villain and men in black Like. He's such a
talented actor that's not get enough credit. So he's really
good when that role could be very just kind of
boring for me, I like it because I think the
actor brings a lot to it. So yeah, I'm excited
to hit on some certain points, but I still enjoy
the movie quite a bit.
Speaker 6: So, Taya Field, before your overalls, I want you to
share this theater story. Why is it such a memorable
theater experience? Well, I remember do you remember me?
Speaker 7: I remember you because I remember there is a specific
scene where they're just like, okay, we need to start
evacuating people, and the gyrosphere the dude is like enjoy
the ride.
Speaker 5: He's just like just staging and then hating his life.
And then the phone call comes in and.
Speaker 7: He uh, He's like what really, and then he pulls
out his little manual and he's like reading off and
he's like like everyone like the ride's closed, can you
all just please go to the monorail?
Speaker 5: And they're all people are freaking out.
Speaker 7: He's like, I just work here, and I remember Travis
like actually like like vocally laughing at them.
Speaker 1: You'll be happy to know that I vocally laughed a
lot last night. I did not remember that from the theater.
But when he hits that line like I just work.
Speaker 6: Here, people like I still laughed my ass off last night.
It's a great line.
Speaker 1: That actor is great in those mini roles, So you
can be happy that that jokes.
Speaker 6: It still gets me, you know.
Speaker 2: So, oh I definitely illlled.
Speaker 4: I feel like I forgot about that character then when
I saw him, I just figured that he'd be playing
He's like that type of character actor every time I
see that actor and thinks he's pretty much the same guy.
Speaker 2: But he did it.
Speaker 4: Very well, and yeah, just enjoy the rod ro just
like no enthusiasm doing the bare minimum. He's got this
summer job and now everybody's just hating on him because
he has to fucking Tello that the riots canceled.
Speaker 2: Jesus.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah. This movie.
Speaker 7: Upon rewatching it many many times, it always have a
special place in my heart because yes, this was this
was Drastic Park, Drastic.
Speaker 5: World coming back.
Speaker 7: I'm getting my dinosaurs, getting this whole world again, and
I'm so thankful for that. But it's I don't want
to say it's a movie that decreases upon rewatching every time,
because it's it's probably a movie that just it doesn't
go up and it doesn't go down. I watched it
that one time and it was great, and every time
I watch it it's still really great. But I notice things,
But these things don't deter from in my enjoyment level
with the movie. I think there's moments where it feels
like there's a sense of overacting by certain not main characters,
but certain side characters, and the way their movements are, like,
for example, ease of a day and they're able to
release the raptors, and this one raptor wrangler guy that
killed he's just like the camera pants to him. He's
got this look of like I'm a badass and you
like full motions like oh, hits the switch. I think
this is just overacting.
Speaker 1: I don't have I have that in my notes. Yeah,
that that character, Emily and I are like, what the
fuck is that? Like why did they leave that take
in there? That guy just hitting that bunch of like
and he was scared shitless like less than an hour
ago in this movie.
Speaker 6: But no, i'llgree with you. There's a lot of the
side characters. They're a little questionable, a little questionable.
Speaker 7: They are, But overall, like, this movie did things. And
I really really like considering what the original script like
script ideas were for Jurassic Park four. Oh god, and
again like genetics was a big thing in that too,
because if you look at the concept arts getting like
human velociraptor t rex hybrid on human soldiers four, that
was the Big four And I'm glad we didn't get that.
I'm glad that they like shelved it and now here
we are, right Charles, this is just one of the
most logical, like good successor sequel routes to do. It's like, hey,
what if the Park succeeded and here we go, we
got it twenty years later, and the magic just really
really kicked in for me when that original John Williams
theme plays off. But again it's Michael Giacchino just going
full Hamsies into this, and I loved what he did
with it, and getting the mosesesor was a big kicker
all these different things, which is super super good. A
con when I watched Jurassic Park three and I watched
this back to back looking at the CGI, I really
don't feel like, at at least to me, I don't
see like the most greatest improvements, Like you can see
there's like obviously it's better CGI to a degree, but
I just feel like it's just you can tell it's CGI.
It's blatantly obvious, like, Okay, this is CGI. And there
was such a less amount of practical effects. You had
the uh, maybe it's a diplo dicuss or definitely would
a diplodocus.
Speaker 3: U.
Speaker 5: The long neck basically long neck.
Speaker 7: I think that was like the one at least apparent
to me practical effects scene where they were actually like
touching the dinosaur. Fallen Kingdom had so many more, which
is great but to me, coming from three movies that
really emphasized on using these animatronics for their dinosaurs with
CGI sprinkled in, it's just kind of a shocker getting
into this movie where now, hey, we're heavily relying on CGI,
it's daytime for the majority of this movie. Dinosaurs are
all CGI in this and that was definitely a takeaway.
I wish the Dominus Rex had a lot more practical
effects used or animatronics used about it like they did
with the t Rex. The t Rex in this I
don't think it all was animatronic. I'm pretty sure it
was just entirely CGI was, which is again a takeaway
for me.
Speaker 5: But I get I get my dinosaurs. Uh so I'm
not complaining.
Speaker 4: I think I'll agree with you, like just to an
extent with the CGI because I I didn't think that
it was like necessarily on the same level as like
the Jurassic Park and like I mean that in the
sense that like it's better than the Drassic Park movies.
But I find a lot of the times too with
these types of movies that like, if I see it
in theaters, I'm just like blown away and totally engaged.
I'm like oh my god, the CG I looks phenomenal,
and then maybe watched it like at my home, it's
just like, Okay, I can really kind of maybe notice
certain things that make it more noticeable for like a
CGI character, because there was a lot of moments that
I had that feeling of like, Okay, they didn't even
put in the effort to like try and make this animatronic.
And then when they're actually like the diners are doing
action sequences, they see GI it there. So I can
definitely see where you're coming from there, because yeah, I
think a movie that came out twenty fifteen, this one
was like you would think that would be a day
and night difference from like Jassic Park three, right, But
I think there is some comparable like CGI scale.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get some pushback there, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I I think I see what you're coming from, though,
Taylor is like I had a better like I had
it looking better in my head and then rewatch it.
Now it's just like, oh okay, it's it's a little bit.
But again twenty fifteen, like like that was yesterday, Like
it's crazy to think like how long ago that already is.
Maybe I'm just too used to this twenty twenty two
CGI graphics.
Speaker 2: Right, But.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they'll look pretty the same. I don't know,
I can't remember. I think like in Fallen Kingdom and
I don't know if.
Speaker 2: They made real dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we got the actors. Oh, I'm not looking
forward to this one. But they getting paid lots of money,
you know. I can't remember if they use practical and
fall and Kingdom or whatnot, but I feel like they
just use them and they do.
Speaker 7: A Raptor had a lot of it. Blue had scenes
with that. Yeah, they really dive into it a lot more.
And the t Rex too, and in the back of
the trailer.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6: Well, uh, let's take our first ad break and then
we'll get more into this film. So we'll be right back.
And we're back. So where do we want to Actually,
I want to say one thing before I do forget that. Yeah, Tay,
you're talking about the score.
Speaker 1: And I do really like the score because it plays
on the classic stuff. I think they get some some
actual good original stuff in it too, so that's always
hard to pull off. And I like his score here
better than I like to Star Wars stuff. So I
feel like he can pull up those classic themes, but
I just want to say, because it's not of my notes,
and I would forget about it.
Speaker 6: So where do we want to go here with? You know,
do you want to start off with? Owen? You want
to start off with?
Speaker 1: I don't even remember Bryce styles Howard's characters, Claire.
Speaker 6: I just got there.
Speaker 1: I got there and then all these three Russian and
come on now, but yeah, the kids and everything like that.
I shally'll start with this because this is the first
thing I thought about, and I asked Emily, and I
wanted to ask everybody, but I just thought about taylor Field. So, dah,
let's say this park has been open for a year,
no problems. Are you going to this park.
Speaker 5: It's been open for a year and no problems?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how long it's been open here,
but let's say it's been open. However, it's been open
in Jurassic World time a year, a couple of years.
It's taylor Field gonna go there, even though he's seen
all these.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I I need to see a dinosaur like that's
that's just a given. I need to see a dynas.
Speaker 6: It's it's just it.
Speaker 5: It has to happen.
Speaker 7: And if it's been open for a year and there's
been no deaths or anything like that, again, I would
take into mine. Okay, Like the park didn't open initially
twenty years ago in the nineties, and they obviously had
some problems, but I would just tell myself, Hey, they
didn't have the technology back then, same dinosaur's new technology.
Speaker 5: I would go out there and I would fucking absorb everything.
I'd go with you guys, it'd be great.
Speaker 6: Well I wouldn't be going, so you'd be going alone.
I'm not going. You wouldn't go. No, I've seen enough movies,
you know.
Speaker 7: I want to see a dinosaur in real life, though, Like,
just think about that sixty.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you guys are there.
Speaker 4: I take another first commercial flight to the Moon. I
got priorities.
Speaker 3: Honestly, i'd want to go.
Speaker 5: Hell, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: You know, I definitely I feel like there. You know,
it's like skydiving. You know, there's a chance that you
could die, but you do it anyway because it's just
once in a lifetime experience.
Speaker 6: I feel like the dinosaurs has a great chance than
the sky diving.
Speaker 3: You know, Well, it's like chance that something goes wrong
on these.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and like their their evacuation plan was terrible.
They just put all these humans in one spot and
I don't even know at the end of the movie
where did they all go to humans?
Speaker 5: They just the boats boats to come back to Costa Rica.
Speaker 6: They just like they they got off for the finale. Hey,
no one was left behind.
Speaker 1: They made like everybody was clear. But still they're they're
they're all like I guess it was Bipro was there.
Speaker 6: They were the whole day in like this.
Speaker 1: Huge group, but he never really saw the group lesson
they got attacked by dinosaurs and then the next time
we kind of go back there, everyone's just gone, you know.
Speaker 7: So there are definitely people that were left behind on
the island, but that's another hmm camp Cretaceous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, god, oh they're like, yeah, I'll have to check
out me with the kids once and get into it.
But kirkh are you going you're making us a three
versus one scenario?
Speaker 4: Like I said, it's it's I feel like it's dependent
on certain certain life situations.
Speaker 2: Time. I don't know, like if I what does that mean?
Speaker 6: That's very cage.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to Disneyland.
Speaker 4: Like at the same time, it's like, uh, do I
do I go choose for the dinos or do I
choose that.
Speaker 6: I'm not asking that. I don't ask you if you're going
dinosaur I'm just saying, do you go to the park? No? No, no.
Cagy situations just depends on a lot of things. Right,
you get handed a ticket they say you can go
to this park?
Speaker 2: Is the just one ticket?
Speaker 6: If I'm going alone, now, sure you can bring shade
to die.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what I feel like, if it's the
scenario I'm going with Taylor, I think, Okay, yes, I
think I do go. I feel like, just like his
passion for the dinosaurs, he would know all the names,
so yeah, probably probably I would even if like, if
that's how I go, Like, how many people could say
that they've seen a dinosaur like in their lifetime?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 6: Yeah, but then how many people that died? And then
you're you're gonna be smaller, even smaller.
Speaker 5: I'll cure.
Speaker 4: I can help you evade with Jimmy fallon on the screen,
I think why.
Speaker 6: I just think that's such a sad way.
Speaker 1: Your parents have to have a funeral for you to
but yeah, he died because he went to Jurassic World.
Speaker 6: Told him not.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's worse ways to go, for sure. I mean, like, yeah,
he was ripped to shreds by genetically modified.
Speaker 6: It's a volunteer to go there. You know, you volunteered
to die.
Speaker 4: Not necessarily depends what's in like my my, my my
room like package, Like am I am I getting like
a SPA day too? Like what other perks is encompassing
this Drassic Park ticket?
Speaker 1: I don't feel you're getting a spaw day unless you're
paying like the big money.
Speaker 6: That's definitely.
Speaker 2: Do I get a VIP risk from Pristyle.
Speaker 6: No, you don't. You got to be in the lines.
Speaker 5: I'm friends with Mazarani.
Speaker 6: No, we're I'm a helicopter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not gonna get a situation.
Speaker 4: Let's just figure out the whole dinosaurs bringing them back
to life and then ask me about this.
Speaker 2: That's the hard challenge.
Speaker 3: But I mean there was an entire year that nothing
went wrong, but people got to see things.
Speaker 6: So you know, just gonna day that day went wrong
and then look what it led to two other movies.
These fucking dinosaurs are everywhere now, you know.
Speaker 2: But watching this movie today too.
Speaker 4: I just don't don't know how it just hit me now,
but I was like, my biggest issue with these Drives
Park movies is like, there's no fucking possible way that
there'd be the dinosaurs could even live at that time
because the only reason why they're that big and we're
able to stick around is because the oxygen levels and
Earth sixty five million years ago were so much higher
than what they are now, Like that is why they're
so big, So like they would literally just suffocate. Like
these movies don't make any sense. But again, I guess
I give it the sci fi wave just not pay.
Speaker 1: But they can also say they fix that on the
cloning process, right, Yeah, that's like fucking the adamous Rex
can do anything.
Speaker 6: I was expecting at one point to be like it
could flo shoulder.
Speaker 2: Cannon like the Predators shoulder cannon.
Speaker 1: Like it's all right, but I've definitely I remember I
think Liam was the first one to bring that up
to me as far as like, yeah, watch that movie
again and just anything the plot needs a dinosaur to
du you can just like, oh it has a raptor,
Oh it has a total Oh it has cuttlefish.
Speaker 6: Oh, it has it. It's just like it. It's really yeah,
it kids, it does though.
Speaker 1: It literally has cuttlefish in it, like it's it gets
really eye rolling. It's just he's a plot armor character
pretty much, just like anything we need this thing to do,
it's gonna do.
Speaker 6: I like it enough is like I think just having
a t rex mix mix.
Speaker 1: With a raptor is good enough. I don't think they
needed to do more than that. I think that was
like a fun kind of combo. I like the idea
of creating a new dinosaur. It's scary we'll get into
the owner of the park because I have so many
questions about him, like he's such a mixed character. But
I was gonna say, Jessica, you're sharing these photos in
the chat of like them comparing that doesn't do drastic
world and on any favors, you know, because it looks
like shit compared to the original.
Speaker 3: That that first picture realized we should share that because it, Yeah,
comparing them, it looks terrible.
Speaker 6: It's just too glossy.
Speaker 1: It looks like what the first picture because of what
it is, the side by side of the t Rex
in the car scene and the the t Rex and
Jurassic World scene when you save in the day. The
first one looks like a real t Rex. The second
one looks like a t Rex toy that has like
the plastic wrap still on it that you have to
take off. And yeah, no it doesn't. It doesn't look
too good.
Speaker 5: Is it like super fucking tiny for you guys like hard? Fuck,
I can't I can't see the ship.
Speaker 6: Did you click on it?
Speaker 3: I find the I can.
Speaker 5: Oh, you're on your phone. I'm talking desktop.
Speaker 6: Who the fuck uses the desktop anymore? You losers like stream.
Speaker 2: Doing this podcast?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: That's why I keeping That's why I keep dropping.
Speaker 2: Wi Fi is always dropping.
Speaker 6: I'm like Batman in the Dark Night? Where is he loss?
But yeah, so these kids they get sent off to
Aunt Claire because their parents are getting a divorce. Again.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I need the storyline, but like, okay,
you're adding some layers into these kids are kind of
going through a situation. So they're going there. They're gonna
see Aunt Claire. She gives no fucks about these kids
because she's so busy. What you laughing about, Kirkland?
Speaker 4: Just the fu Like the kids when they're on the
tram and we have like, douchebag boyfriend just hitting on
these girls behind him, like you guys come here often.
His little brothers having like a mental breakdown, his parents
having a divorce.
Speaker 6: Shut up, stop that.
Speaker 1: The older one just wants to get his fucking rocks off.
He's like, dude, I'm about to lose my v car tonight. Like,
shut the fuck up, dude, you keep crying these girls
look and he does. He's a massive colock blocker. His brother,
you know, he like every time he tries to say something,
and uh, he's.
Speaker 5: Not wrong because he's like, what do you think is
gonna happen? If you just keep staring at them? That's
all he does. Like he finally told that's how it works.
They're next to him. You just stare at women Like.
Speaker 6: What I did? Not Now, I just stare at myself
in the mirror and said.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 2: They're in their closet. That's what I do?
Speaker 6: What are you? Michael Miler's Kurt, I meet a lot
of women. I meet a lot of women. But and
then yeah, so they are the meet Aunt Claire. She
sends them off with the nanny.
Speaker 1: He looks like she's from a bunch of different porns,
and then you also have own Grady was training these
raptors and that those are kind of our meaning characters.
So yeah, what do you guys we talking about little bit?
What do you think about the setup of the world
of our main characters. We got the pitch of Okay
Park's open, it's running. John Hammond, I guess left all
his money and everything to this random guy we've never
heard of her met before and uh, we're off to
the races.
Speaker 6: So but you're what are you kicking him about again?
Speaker 4: Kircum thinking about that character and like how fucking random
it is. Like there's so many things that get brought
up in this movie that I didn't really think of him,
like the first viewing.
Speaker 6: No, he's in the first movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I've seen it a couple of times,
but like I never really thought about just this random
person that we have no idea who he is, and
like we don't really dive into like his his like
him running the park. Really he's just so obsessed with
like being the new top gun Maverick. He's just like, Oh,
my trainer's not here.
Speaker 6: I don't care.
Speaker 4: We don't need another pilot. What happens he fucking dies well.
Speaker 6: And like my favorite thing is like I know they
kind of do this.
Speaker 1: They lamp shade it a joke where they're gonna go
to they're gonna go find that doms rexs are gonna
shoot up, right, and that one female worker is.
Speaker 6: Like, there's no one else on this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, can fly this plane and he's like no,
they just brought in this high tech like swat team
that he has these guns from I don't know, Star Wars,
Phantom Menace, and you're telling me none of these fuckers
know how to fly a helicopter, like, none of them.
Speaker 6: And I guess with that boss, I like that actor
rip to him. He was a really good actor.
Speaker 1: But he it's weird because when we meet him with Claire,
they set up Claire to be the really uptight, all
about business, you know, it's not personal, just business.
Speaker 6: Looks at dinosaurs is money, yeah, yeah yeah, And then
we meet him he's all like, you gotta enjoy life,
the park, it's about magic and all these things. But
then when they land and with the Adaminis Rex, he's
like getting a heart on time about how much it's
gonna scare the kids and parents, and he's just like
then we find out later on he's sending emails to
people being like you need to make them big or scary.
So I feel like every scene, one scene, he's like
the carrying guy who's like, no, I these dinosaurs existed,
but I want to try and find a way to
make their life better and just try to We gotta
deal with the situation, right, if we're not gonna kill them,
how can we make their lives better? And that's what
the park's for because it gives us money to feed them.
Speaker 1: But later on he's just like the show business guy
who's about pressing it. And then when he dies he's
back to being like the brave guy. So I really don't.
I like the actors, so I think that's a good thing,
but the character, he's all over the fucking map. He
makes no sense to me. And again, yeah, John Hammond,
I guess gave him everything. Why And even then like that,
that's been one thing. Jurassic World does that as well,
because the sequel I hate that when they're like, oh,
there's also this other guy that helped John Hammond like
clone these things, and it's like all right, so yeah,
I was I can't say I'm not a fan of
a boss. It's just he's very When you look at
John Hammond, who's such a well ridden character, and then
you meet this guy very just like nonchalant, just kind
of he's just a plot point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you brought up a lot of good points with him,
of like thank you. Like I I think in the
first introduction to him, like you have this feeling like,
oh he's he's a cut from different cloth of like
who you would think to just be running this of
like it's.
Speaker 6: All he's not Hammond.
Speaker 4: It's all about profits, it's all about like you got
it just but yeah, no, he isn't Hammond, and he's
just like the Initially the biggest or the most important
thing for him is just like how are how are
the kids?
Speaker 2: Like how is everybody?
Speaker 4: Like enjoyment of the park, and then that's instantly thrown
away like in a previous scene like like oh is
that good that we made this scary?
Speaker 2: He's like it's fantastic and he's just like totally like
having a hard.
Speaker 4: And then like later on when it escapes, like he's stressing,
like we can't just kill it. It's twenty seven million
dollar asset.
Speaker 2: We got it.
Speaker 4: We got to preserve it here. Meanwhile, like people are
absolutely getting marked left, right, and center.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It is a really I think, poorly written character, but
as you mentioned, like I really like his performance, and
like I think there is some funny moments with him,
like driving the helicopter. Maybe maybe initially because he's kind
of freaking out that person that's with him. I guess
that's Claire at the time, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that one pilot has no line, so I
don't know. He must be somebody's friend because he just
sits there and look grumpy the whole time, you know,
like that's Kathleen Kennedy's brother or something. So what about
you guys, you got anything to Adams on the Boss?
I thought you can bring up a new topic.
Speaker 3: I didn't necessarily notice any of this, but I wasn't
necessarily looking for it. I feel like it's been so
long since I've watched this that it was just kind
of retaking everything in. But I'm just gonna throw out
this that I found just kind of all I've been proven.
Did you guys catch that? Is it Wong or no,
it's wu It's the same scientists from Park Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Did you catch that one, Taylor, He's the only only
character Definitely I latched onto that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he definitely. He's a character that takes a big
spring too. And the first one we just meet him
and he's just like a nice scientist dude. And now
he's doctor Jackal like.
Speaker 4: Making deals, weird deals behind the two and that.
Speaker 1: Scene like and this is why I don't understand it.
So he has the scene with the scene is just
fucking wild. When the owner goes to meet with him
because it opens up, He's like, what's in the dinosaur?
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm not libertally tell you. This guy owns
the fucking park. He doesn't get to know what's in
the dinosaurs?
Speaker 5: Like he doesn't and I like it.
Speaker 3: A million for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like it goes, it goes.
Speaker 7: Like he he he has a hand in this, but
at the same time, he doesn't even know all the
different companies that work, like the Umbrella company that that
is a part of mes Ronnie, like when he got
a hold of everything that John Hammond from him, Like
Engen is a large part of this. And yes, Mazaranni
can keep certain things at bay with Engen, but at
the end of the day, like there's a lot of
other shady things going on with this, and again the
capt Crotaceous explores this, there's so many other companies that
are kicking around, like it's just such a political dilemma
that's involved here.
Speaker 1: So for this movie that doesn't give us any of
that information that you gave us Taylor doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7: So you do it does with Engen, Yeah, because he's
trying to figure it out and Engen's just literally taken
over the show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but here's the thing it does.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I think goes against that
where Vinzitdoppha all the time, he's just like fucking creaming
his jeans to release these rapt big. All he wants
to do is release these raptors, but he can't until
that boss dies. And the second that boss I is like, okay,
let's do it. They he tries to do that and
the Boss and Chris Pratt shut him down like multiplimes
like no, it's not happening, Like the boss is like,
you're not releasing live raptors in my park. It's absolutely
not happening. And then he dies. It feels like the
power shift goes away. So that's where For me, the movie,
the way it sets it up, you have this guy
and then you have engine that's me working with them,
but they are still below him. And every other time
it's he's the owner, it's his call. So for me,
the way the movie set it up, it made no
sense for why he wouldn't be allowed to find what's
in these dinosaurs? That makes no sense. I'd be like
me getting you guys record a podcast and I say,
what do you guys like, can I listen to you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not try. You can't listen to it. It's like,
but I'm a part of Geek first, I'm an owner. No,
he can't listen to It's like, what the fuck? Does
that even me? And it's different because like our percentages
forth while are broken.
Speaker 6: I don't think this Like this guy's probably the majority
owner and he can't he can't listen to his own podcast.
He doesn't know what's in this dinosaur.
Speaker 1: And then bed Wong is just like he's being so evil,
he's being so over the top like mustache TWIRLI and
everything like that, and it's it's just a weird scene.
It's a weird scene, you know. I like BD Wong
as an actor. So again I like these actors just
on the weird things they have them do.
Speaker 7: But for me, mister Mizzerannie, I liked his character in
this actually a lot, because he's just portraying this this
character or this owner that has no real connection to
what's really going on the park. He thinks he does.
He says like, oh, how are the animals like the
animals okay? Or the guests having fun? All that kind
of jazz, but he has no real connection to it.
And it starts to really unfold when shit hits the fan,
and I think, what again, I don't want I don't
mean this like it's a mean way. But like the
leading up to his death, like I like this scene
because you really see a click when the bird cage
breaks apart and the one like tranned on jabs it's
like his buddy and the shotgun seat and then the
guy behind gets killed and he realizes like he doesn't
take his glasses off, but he like his expression changes,
he realized like, wow, I fucked up.
Speaker 2: Should have brought my trainer.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and this whole time, which is a very really
poor timing line from Vincent Donofrio when he's like looks
like the hand got into the the dog got into
the henhouse or whatever.
Speaker 5: He says. This is such a who's saying this? This
guy's about to die? This is a really rough things
pretty cool.
Speaker 6: Because my favorite thing is when he comes back in
the room. He's like, Oh, what's the boss's name?
Speaker 5: Taylor Masseranie?
Speaker 6: That's Ronnie, so Misserani, and then what what what's Beaty
Wong's characters him again?
Speaker 2: Henry Wu Henri Wo.
Speaker 6: Okay, it's just okay, thank you, so miss I'm not
going here.
Speaker 1: Yeah for Venz Ronnie, he's just like, oh, miss Ronnie's death,
what's a tragedy?
Speaker 6: And now let's get these fucking raptors going like. He
moves so like but it's like, and that's a pro
for me because I think Vince don don hike. Now
you make me want to call him Donald freeo vincit's
an off Sells. It's so good that he's this piece
of shit that I just thought that, yeah, you're all excused,
here go like I can, let's get to business. So
I love that line. He just comes in, Oh yeah,
it's so sad we lost him, but he gives two
ships and I gotta bring up this is my last point.
Speaker 1: So I know we're all over the place, but we're
talking about some while ship here. So he wants to
get these raptors right, and what is it. It's his program.
He brought Chris Pratt in to work with these raptors.
Then once he sees he's in controlling he has a
like super generic plot right of oh, machines, aren't the
future dinosaurs he's.
Speaker 6: Talking about, I can control the da DA and it's
genetics scept But again, because it's him, I like it all.
I think he sells it. Well. There's at one point
where it's when he's talking to what's old Grady's friend Taylor.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, so either way, anyways, the other trainer
they have them when they're all dealt and they're all Barry.
Speaker 6: His name is Barry. Yeah, okay, So Barry has them
all locked up and everything like that, and he's I
don't actually know, I guess just because we're having these
other names, just Barry. But that's fine, Perry. It is.
Speaker 1: So they have them all locked up and he's talking
about these raptors and the connection, and then he tells
the story this fucking weird ass story that Barry bad
I ever go watch, Barry does not ask him about
He's like, so, when I was, you know, twenty years
thirty years ago, I was hunting and I found this
injured wolf cub and what I do took it back.
Speaker 6: I got back to health and we had an unbreakable bond.
And he's like, so when my wife came at me
with a knife, this wolf took a chunk out of
her arm. Now two things.
Speaker 1: One, Barry does not proceed to ask, like what the
fuck is that story? Like why is your why was
your wife coming at you with a knife? And two,
when he's like, oh, you put it down, he's like, no,
I got a divorce. And it's just like, again, why
aren't you asking for more specifics about the story? This
is a weird story, like you could have made it
anything but the fact that I don't know. To me,
it's just the writers had a really weird this is
gonna work, This thing works right here. My wife is
my wife came at me with a knife?
Speaker 6: What is that? What is it? Even if someone brought
that up in the story, I'd be like, you're fucked up, dude,
Like what's going on in your situation here, Like that's
the thing is he say? But like.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to put across is he tells this
story about his wife coming at him with a knife,
like it's anything, Like he could have just said his
wife raised her voice at him, but he just talks
about like this happens in all relationships, and Barry does
not miss a beat. He doesn't ask him about it
at all, And it was just such a weird story.
Speaker 6: I was looking at him, I like, can you believe
what he's saying right now? Like I never noticed this?
Speaker 5: Believe it?
Speaker 6: Yeah he did? But yeah, like the.
Speaker 4: First thing you should have asked is like where's your
wife now? Because like I don't think he does ask
them like if he got a divorce or anything like that.
It's just end of the story, Like is she's still alive?
Like did she recover from Basically he did say.
Speaker 6: Just took a chunk out of her. But no, he
did imply that they were divorced. Just I don't think
he said divorce, but he said something because remember when
Barry says, oh, so you put the wolf down, and
they says, no, I kept her.
Speaker 2: So like Eric got rid of bond, are you kidding me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I honestly took the stories just bullshit. I
felt like he was just trying to, like, okay, you know,
stoke the fire a little bit with Barry to try
and get someone on his side for the Raptors. And
he was just even the term like we didn't shake
up a bond. He was just pitching and feed into
the choir what they wanted to hear in terms of
what they have with the Raptors.
Speaker 5: So I took it as him kind of bullshitting the
theirraive to gain their trust.
Speaker 6: A little bit, but put a bullshit if your bullshit
story is my wife give a knife and that's supposed
to gain my trust, Like, no, dude, I don't think.
I don't think I'm gonna be part of your operation here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're they're training all these dinosaurs, and you know,
he gets the classic like Jurassic Park World, shitty bad
guy death, which is good, like you always want them
to die in bad ways, which is very strange for me.
And that that's I even remember the first time watching
it being like, man, why do they have that babysitter
have such a brutal death?
Speaker 6: It makes no sense.
Speaker 4: Liker that was like probably the most brutal death in
the movie, I would say, because it was long, like
she was getting fucked up by the pterodactyl's for.
Speaker 1: Three separate dinosaurs. Yeah yeah, and then what are you
pulling up here?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, and that's what I it's weird because like,
if they're gonna do this, they should have went another
way to just make her like a lot more shitty
then because she's not. And like sure she like takes
her eyes off the kid at one point, but they
are also little ships that are like sneaking away and everything.
Speaker 1: For it's really it's it's one of the thing that
is a connect for me with this film where they
had that's where I think first half is spectacle but
is trying to aching back to Jurassic Park where okay,
it's not as low key as that, but we're still trying.
The second half that's when it gets fantastical and just
gets crazy, and when they take out the babysitter like that,
that's when it's like, okay, you're just making you know.
Speaker 6: It's when the older or the newer.
Speaker 1: Horror movies like Michael Myers and Jason and Freddie Win,
Oh you didn't like the people, the kids. You just
want to see them get killed. And that's what I
was like with this babysitter where it's like she sure
it's a fun spectacle thing, but give that to some
shitty character. Why are you making this like innocent babysitter
die in this terror terrible way.
Speaker 7: And she was stressing out trying to find those kids too,
So I definitely I do feel bad for her because
like her main goal, like you see, she cares when
she found them, like she cares and she's like thank God,
like they're alive and everything like that.
Speaker 5: Did you see.
Speaker 3: This this scene in the movie with this babysitter in here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know why you act as like that
way too, Like we all watch the movie, like did
you see this?
Speaker 7: A lot of people actually miss this, like the babysitters
hair in the Moses Sore's mouth.
Speaker 5: I don't know a lot of people miss it. I
see people coming like, well they're hands in the mouth,
holy crap, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, like made it like the full screen picture.
Speaker 6: You just we don't need to see it. We know,
get rid of this. We saw the movie. We know
she's in there.
Speaker 5: That's a that's a whole Reddit page about Sarah's that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, other people are triggered about it.
Speaker 7: But yeah, Sarah the Assistance death and dressing wall is
stuck with me for a long time.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, well go read that article.
Speaker 1: Then oh let's take an ad break and then we'll
get back on track. So we'll be read back and
we're back. So, Jessica, you were going for a little
bit there. Where do you want to take us? What
do you want to say? We talked, We talked about
the Army guy a little bit in his story, and
we talked about like the set up there. We finished
off with the boss. But if there's anything more you
want to say, So we're kind of jumping back and
forth between those two topics.
Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna add in on megalodon.
Speaker 5: That would be the.
Speaker 7: Large great white equivalent. This is the Mosasaurce it's a megalodon.
Speaker 3: Okay, So whatever that is. At the end, you know,
we see it jump out and eat the babysitter, and
then in the end it's what jumps out And you know,
my question is, if it was capable of just jumping
up and eating things, why did it never jump up
and eat people.
Speaker 5: It's because when they the fencing was smashed, the TX
through the dominance rex like past the fencing right up
against the edge of the tank, so.
Speaker 1: It couldn't lean over the tank. But so what he's
saying is the people were over the tank. The dominance
was inside the tank, like its head was sticking in there.
Speaker 6: That's why it was.
Speaker 7: It was thrown like right up against it within range
like the danger zone where the molsesor could actually jump
on a grab.
Speaker 5: It like you see.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll trust you on that one. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I what part of easily new blar are we going
to Jessica.
Speaker 6: It's not or whatever Billy says. I.
Speaker 3: I feel like I was just kind of thrown into this.
I'm not prepared. I Yeah. So, you guys kind of
we touched upon the over arching piece about Chris Pratt
being like a raptor tamer. Yet have we talked about
that kind of being the let's do it? So? I
guess I don't know. It's kind of a weird concept
to me that you know, this human can be the alpha.
You know, I know it's supposed to be. He raised
them from babies and trained them in this and that
but you know, not only that, but when you get
this huge mega indominus rex and it can talk and
communicate with them, you know, Still, how does a human
be like, yo, I'm your your alpha, not this massive
thing that's fucking killed everyone on this island. We'll started off.
Speaker 6: There, do they?
Speaker 1: I don't think they meet the massive thing on the
island right until like later on and then just like
the raptor blood and they start talking and everything like that.
And I guess I like, I buy it enough because
you have people that are in the wild and they're
fucking running around the lions and like rolling around with them,
and you know, playing with.
Speaker 5: Tortoise, Travis roll around with the lions.
Speaker 6: No, this, I don't think I want to.
Speaker 4: Roll around in you who Carrie in you?
Speaker 6: You know Carrie okay.
Speaker 2: Best player or best character?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, when you said Carrie, I jumped to Stephen King's carry.
So that's it. No, any animal that's gonna just could
turn and eat me.
Speaker 1: It's just no, it's just like a I respect the animal,
but it's just it's just too scary, you know.
Speaker 6: But there are people that they build that ball and
he does make.
Speaker 1: Sure he imprints on them. And stuff, and they set
that up, so I think I believe it enough. Does
it get a little fantastical when they're riding on the
bike together and they're like it's cool, like it's all
cool action stuff, Like it definitely is. I'm not saying
that's like I'm happy we get there. But one of
my favorite modes too is at that point when they're
they go see the Domas Rex, the Domas Rex talks
and then they all go away, right and they start
walking up to the domost RECs with their guns and
they're just like, watch out, raptors are on your six.
But they say no so nonchalantly and they just keep
going like they're not fucking raptors.
Speaker 5: Got a new alpha watch your six?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but it's like, I know, you can't just
watch your six with a raptor. It's like there's no
combatants here. But yeah, I think I liked it enough.
It was a fun enough spin for.
Speaker 2: Me, so yeah, I guess, yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 4: He's basically just like a really good dog trainer, like
when he's got like the clicker and everything, and like,
I I liked that play on, like him being the
alpha and just like like pushing that authority on these
raptors and like basically command you respect. Like that's that's
a fun dynamic in the movie. Enough and man like
poor fucking raptors though, like when they're not like just
in their pens, are they just like in that fucking
like cannibal lecter like cage like constantly where they can't
even move, Like I feel like that is enough to
draw raptor insane. Like the second that they undo that,
there's gonna be like I can't listen to orders because
I've been basically in like isolation or no what's it called, Oh,
what's it called in jail?
Speaker 2: When you get solitary.
Speaker 4: Solitary it's like that, but you like can't move like
at like they can't move their head because like it
seemed like anytime that they went to them when they
weren't like doing their training activities, like they were in
that hold, like why not give them like a little
pen to kind of just chill in.
Speaker 6: I don't know if those I feel like they might affect.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just in those for when they're not transporting
them but gonna do certain things. But I don't know,
I could be wrong about that, Tia, do you have
a like a confirmation if the.
Speaker 7: I don't know what the fuck those things are for,
to be honest, it was just their using practical effects.
Speaker 6: I guess, so it definitely hold No, it holds them though.
I feel like because they could like like if one
has a face injury, they can get a close up
or look at it like it can also put the
tracking around its head right, so like, yeah, there's multiple
things that they do with the head guard.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 7: I mean, if you need to do anything like injury,
I guess you would just put a sedation sedative into
it and then just treat it that way. I don't
know why you need to have this like strict access
of just the head where like freaking force bars, like well, you.
Speaker 6: Know, sometimes there's some surgeries you need to be awake for. Mean,
the raptor's gotta be awake. You know, their asked does
it hurt here and stuff? You know.
Speaker 4: I feel like they would just stress out the the
quote unquote animals though, like it did.
Speaker 7: Because when Vincent Donofrio was like going up or Donna
Frio was going up to uh to blue.
Speaker 5: I think it was blue or maybe it was Delta.
Speaker 7: I think it was Delta, but the Raptor like clearly
was like sizing up Dona Frio and it was like
freaking the fuck out, like start panting and huffling more,
and Barry was like, so one thing I want to mention,
just in response to the Alpha changing over to the
adominance Rex. I really like that scene again, the whole
sequens building up, Like I wish I was on that
motorbike because that was super fucking cool, but.
Speaker 5: You wish I wish I was on the motorbike. That
was super fucking sweet.
Speaker 7: And when the Indominous Rex talks to the Raptors, that
gives me goosebumps.
Speaker 5: But I like it.
Speaker 7: Because the Raptors, yes, they were playing this like hide
and seek game or whatever, and they had their Alpha,
but I think again the head pieces and just having
all these other people around it was just a first
for them and it really compromised them. So I don't
think it was difficult to see this Alpha come in
and kind of like reassert its dominance over them, And
particularly when that scene shows the cameras all sizing out
Chris Pratt out of like twenty humans, but they're all
looking at Chris Pratt. I really like that scene. That
was really like chilling and goosebumps and again.
Speaker 3: That poor going right before it goes with Delta, right
and he's looking at me. Yeah, he stares only looks
at things you want.
Speaker 7: To eat exactly, just you know exactly this the sequels too,
like it delivers because the people don't they don't know
how to fight fucking velociraptors. But like when you see
the camera perspectives, I like it be and this is
a great reference to how they hunt the raptors attacks
like they're coming from the sides and everything like that.
It's just it's so uh, it's so well done. And
that one fucking raptor that got nuked with the RPG, oh,
I really felt bad. That's like, that's really sad. That's
really really sad because for Chris Prat to see, because
it's like if you had like a dog or a
cat you're imprinted on, or like a bird or something
you've been with since it's a baby, and you're just
sitting there and fucking Joe blow with the fucking Noube
tube just fucking careers this fucking rocket at your fucking
ease or after and then boom, he's fucking gone.
Speaker 6: I just want to put on the record.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a quick death. I also just want to
put on the record. I just don't like the word imprint.
It's very I don't know, it feels very ichy.
Speaker 6: You know. I don't like it. But Twilight, No, it
doesn't act it does now. Yeah, I's wrong with imprinting.
Just sounds weird. It's just like you're taking.
Speaker 4: Not a load on the dime, the sore when it
was little and now you know he obeys me.
Speaker 6: I hope not.
Speaker 5: That's not the details intimate intimidator sours or whatever.
Speaker 3: Watch, but I think on the wrong website, kirk.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you watch the wrong drastic world.
Speaker 4: What they need in that scene is Billy just to
fly in and with his little resonator chamber.
Speaker 2: He's just communicate, guys. I got this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I bought Kirby here. He he's a new investor
and everything.
Speaker 3: But I think the version, the version that you watched
was Risen Kingdom.
Speaker 6: Risen Kingdom, Rising Kingdom, you mean.
Speaker 2: Lost.
Speaker 6: I think she's talking about like a boner. Yeah, yeah,
so you.
Speaker 3: Can ejaculate, apparently ejaculating on them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, moved on. But yeah, no, I like that scene.
I think it's a good scene. Is for like most
of the Dominis Reccines.
Speaker 1: I like like for the most probably because I don't
like the reasoning behind them that she's like, okay, he
can do anything. But there's some fun tension there the
first time, like that's why it's my name. But when
it is camouflage's like camoflage and like the guy I
said this is curriculum before where he gots like hit,
he gets like stamped on and gets Biden.
Speaker 6: That guy has a terrible death. And at that point,
though I guess it's maybe like a my.
Speaker 1: Nitpick or con is just they don't go to def
Con five right away like Bryce do House higher in
the crew. They're still kind of like, okay, how could
we like fix this? How do we gotta like evacuate?
And that's one of the scenes that I don't actually
like Chris practice. I get this is his character to
being the instructor, but he's just like you raise this
dinosaur in this tube.
Speaker 6: In this case, she's been here for this long with
nothing to do. She wants to feed you. He feels
like he's on like a Safari Game Show.
Speaker 1: He doesn't feel like an actual person in this moment,
and that's where I feel like it kind of happens
a few times in this movie where he doesn't feel
like a like an actual living human being.
Speaker 6: He's just an action hero.
Speaker 1: And that's where like the I forgot that the kiss
happened at the moment where they save the kids, and
so funny the first time I watched this movie, and
neither that bug like didn't bug Me's like, okay, yeah,
they kiss, but this time, I just like.
Speaker 6: It didn't feel really warranted at all.
Speaker 1: And even at the end when he's like, oh, it
looks like we got to stick together for survival, I
don't feel they have that, Like they have chemistry together,
but I don't feel like they go in such a
jury together where they should be in love or stuff
like that. So when they kissed, I was actually kind
of caught off guard because I thought when it was
gonna happen, it was gonna be lay in the movie
where I'd feel a lot more.
Speaker 6: For it, and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't really, But you know, they're they're they're a
couple now hopefully they're not broken up again in Dominion
because I hate that. In Fon Kingdom we meet them again,
it's exact same thing where they're broken up, and it's
just they.
Speaker 6: Do the same movie where they're like, oh, we gotta
we gotta find a way to love each other.
Speaker 4: And whatnot, and like the last like or what one
of the last lines I have with each other at
the end of the movie, it's like, so what do now?
I guess we stick together. I guess they don't fucking
known what happens.
Speaker 6: For survival purposes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't even hold hand, and it's just
like it's I don't know, it's a weird relationship.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't buy into it completely other than
you know, they're two good looking, charismatic people so that
they make it work enough, you know.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I feel where you want to go next?
Speaker 1: Hmmm, well the kids? You expressed anything with the kids?
Where are you only kids? I know you're big Justice
Smith defender.
Speaker 5: So I'm a big Justice defender.
Speaker 7: I don't really have many problems with the kids. I
thought they were they were funny and quirky, but when
they started working on the jeep, like I really enjoyed
that sequence and everything that was pretty good. I will
say actually my actually probably one of my most favorite
scenes out of this movie.
Speaker 3: Was with You.
Speaker 5: It's when they mouvie when they stumbled into the old
visitors center from the First Park. Yeah, and that's that just.
Speaker 7: Slow melody of that original score just trickles in and
they're just walking through and it just it just felt
like magic when they're just taking it in, and I
felt like I was brought back to that first moment
of those that first park, and.
Speaker 5: I really liked how those kids got to do that.
Speaker 7: I think that was a great tie between this next
generation and what we experienced in the past.
Speaker 5: And I feel like kids will see that and be like, oh,
what is this.
Speaker 7: Maybe they'll be curious what this place is, like oh
this jeep and stuff, and like parents that like these
movies and be like, oh, you know what, there's a
movie about this, Like, let's go watch it. And it's
just kind of a fun little introduction I guess abridging
you could.
Speaker 6: Send yeah, and then they watch like this movie looks
fucking old, like what's happened?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: But no, I do like and that's where it's like
the kids I think are needed because when the park's
actually open, if you just had the movie about adults,
you don't get to see the rides or all that
type of fun stuff, like when they go to the
museum and learn all this stuff. So I think having
kids is essential to this movie. I don't think it's
essential to the I guess one character is essential, but
most probably don't think it is. So this one, it
works well enough. Yeah, you know, they make it out.
They have a lot of close calls with death. You know,
a pack saves that kid again, or actually she does
the reverse. It doesn't save him, it almost kills him.
But the brother I packs and everything like that. But yeah,
you know, they make it the end, their parents are reunited.
That must have been as scary fucking twenty four hours.
Your kids are in just this park with dinosaurs loose
and you can't get a hold of them at all.
Speaker 6: Not good, you know, not good at all.
Speaker 4: That'd be pretty freaky. Yeah, it'll be Taylor and I
his parents.
Speaker 2: When we're on our dress.
Speaker 6: I'll get to I'll get to what is it benefit
on your guy's death? When I get to go.
Speaker 1: It's so sad, it's so tragic what happened to them,
you know, But tune in this Friday for the memorial
of Taylor and Kirkland.
Speaker 2: Patty, We'll be good.
Speaker 4: We'll have our resonators with the TV stamp on them,
the Chambers Chers.
Speaker 5: Kirkland's death was a tragedy.
Speaker 6: But here's a replacement. Here's Chris. Uh. Let's see.
Speaker 1: And the only thing I actually really have to show
it is I think the best see in the movie
actually is the moment where they have this big chase
scene they're looking for the kids, right they run in
the water, like they go back to the original jeep
and he's you know, they're doing the thing where you
don't move and stuff like that, come failing through the roof,
and then eventually they get to the point where they
get the open field and they find like all the
long necks like taking hoverything. Not just because it's practical,
a bit more practical, but I love in that one
because again I actually feel like, unlike some of these
other movies, like Claire's actually having a character development moment
and she's changing throughout and that thing where she's slowly
becoming like you know, keeps saying these things are not
just numbers on a spread seat. She and even if
they're creating a lab, there's still animals, there's still living beans.
Speaker 6: You gotta treat in that way. And she says that,
but it's very disingenuous the way she says that.
Speaker 1: So when she gets this field like one, they take
a good time with his dinosas, so we're actually dying
in her arms. And then when they look up and
she's like, all these dinosaur as slaughtered and he's, Oh,
he's just killing for sport.
Speaker 6: I really liked everything about that scene.
Speaker 1: And again, that was kind of I think maybe the
last scene we get as far as the more emotional
stakes going on. But really really like that saying I
think Bryce Style's Howard just kills it in that because
you kind of see her going from like strong to
just like breaking down.
Speaker 6: And yeah, that's my favorite scene of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really like that's So, what are you say?
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, you don't think her biggest
character development plot is when she like rips open her
shirt and pushes her sleeves up.
Speaker 1: No, that was Kirkland's rising plot, you know, that's what
that was happening there. No, that that's and that's where
it's like, yeah, they kind of do, like she has
got to treat as like an early two thousand type
of female character that you and Chris brad It's like,
oh yeah, like this dinosaur likes to hunt, feed and
do other things, and you can relate to one of them.
Speaker 6: Right, It's like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 2: Like this was such a great line. What are you talking?
I loved it.
Speaker 1: Now people think I'm the dude bro on gig first,
that dude bro that is such at got to sleep
can relate to least one of those things.
Speaker 6: No, he didn't say sleep, He just did he is.
And it's just.
Speaker 4: Because like the whole point is she's so like stuck
up and like doesn't have a like any opportunity to
have fun. I don't think that's a dated line like whatsoever.
It's not just because it appearance or anything like to me,
like maybe that's early two thousand.
Speaker 1: To me, it's insinuating that like a woman of power
that can be no, no, no, not at all travel a
woman of top power, Like she can't be like slinging
on the side. What if she goes back and she's
just getting banged, like a drum every night by some
guy named Hugo.
Speaker 4: They weren't able to make it out in their own
relationship because she was just so caught like caught up
in her own professional working.
Speaker 1: My thing is, as I'm watched The Stranger Things, it
feels like a line that like a sixteen year old
would say.
Speaker 6: This is a grown.
Speaker 1: Dude saying this stuff, and it just it comes off
as very like high school is.
Speaker 7: And it's like, I'm not gonna limit it to specifically
just like Claire being a female, but like people from
all walks of life genuinely are like this this character
Clay Claire Dearing whisper traying where they are so just
uptight in their work and they don't have time for
anything else, and so I might be leaning more onto
your side this.
Speaker 3: What were the other two? There was there was this
and just hunt.
Speaker 6: It was eating and like hunting eating hunting, and it's
like and it's like for.
Speaker 3: Me, I don't I think that as her being promiscuous
is why they broke up, Like she cheated. That's what
I took that as.
Speaker 6: They didn't say that, no the yougo.
Speaker 3: It was never said, But why say you know you wouldn't.
I think it means she relates to the fucking.
Speaker 6: But you know, oh no, I didn't get that.
Speaker 2: All she relates to the eating, like you gotta eat,
you eat, no promotion.
Speaker 1: No, I just think it's just him trying to say,
do you attached any of those because he says the
reason they they didn't work is because she just said
they weren't compatible. She said there was no attraction there
and stuff like that. He does say that that they
she said that it just wasn't going to work.
Speaker 3: She too, because she was being promiscuous non tracked to an.
Speaker 6: Hugo and stuff like that. You know. But yeah, you know,
but she she does that toppling and everything.
Speaker 1: But she still keeps the heels on the whole movie,
which I know is a classic thing in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 5: Fucking crazy.
Speaker 7: I still don't know how she managed to gets through
everything in heels.
Speaker 5: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's where it's just like it's may get
some shoes. There has to be some shoes a fucking
Jurassic World somewhere in this hotel, you know.
Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure that Bryce Dallas Howard actually requested
to be in heels the whole time because she thought
it kept her character looking specifically you know, business, I guess.
Speaker 6: But at the point where she's running away from the
tea like that doms Rex and she I'm not thinking
about her as a businesswoman.
Speaker 7: And even the t Rex like when she had that
opened up, like you get the shot of her her
feet and she's running those fucking heels.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, her feet must have been dead. The next day,
she was not walking anywhere. It was over for her feet.
Speaker 2: It's over for you set her shoes the next ding.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not putting me back on. But yeah, hunting
for sports team. That was my That was my last point.
I got nothing else.
Speaker 4: What was I gonna go in there? Oh yeah, just
on that scene with the long necks there. Don't burn
me for not having their actual name, but.
Speaker 6: Three horns, the three the three horned ones earlier again.
Speaker 2: So like I I did really like that scene.
Speaker 4: I I I liked how it plays on again just
like the human instinct of like trying to look out
for like other like living things, trying to you know,
just like from Chris Bratt's perspective there, like he sees
them as animals that are kind of like they're not
harming anyone like they they they don't deserve to just
be like murdered this way. So there's a lot of
like emotion that scene. And I really liked it. And
it's interesting because I remember watching Fallen Kingdom and I
actually had like quite a lot of issues with them,
just like forcing down my throat of like you gotta
feel bad for this, for this long deck here that's
just dying on this flaming island, and I attachment to its,
attachment to that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like Kirklin's an anti wok er, he's fucking you know,
like he didn't care about that.
Speaker 2: I'm eating long neck burgers.
Speaker 1: I don't even like Durastic World Kingdom, but I that
scene hits. You know, that long neck scene is great shot.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 2: I haven't revisited that movie.
Speaker 4: I might, I don't know if I I don't really
want to, but I remember like in that scene, like
it was a long, drawn out, cgi long neck that's
just like dying in front of me. I'm like, I
don't fucking care about this animal whatsoever. Like they've been
dead for sixty pim millions. Maybe I'm more than Vincent
dunnafre you uh, you know, camp there maybe, but because
I like, like that being said, I still like felt
it in this scene. I think maybe in the next
movie it was just so much more so because there's
not that much of it, Like it's pretty much just
Chris Brad's character like obviously feeling a connection with the
Raptors and then in that scene in particular, and then
other than that, there's not that much like else other
than that, maybe some lines that when he's talking to Claire,
like because she's just referring to them like assets and
like like a property basically, and he's like, like they're animals,
like they're living, breathing things. So like, I think it
just had a healthier balance than it did in the
second movie. But again I can't speak too much on
that regard because I don't even really remember much of
the second movie. It's just I watched it didn't have
a good time, so I kind of just blocked down
my memory.
Speaker 1: But Taylor, what would be worse someone crying and dress
real fun Kingdom and Kirkling yelling shut the fuck up,
or the moment when or the moment in Durassic World
when that old guy's about to get smothered with a
pillow and I'm laughing in the background.
Speaker 6: In retrospect, I do kind of laugh at that Bill
shot so weirdly shot, and then he just like has
a pillow and he's coming over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, he's like fucking Dylan watching Star Wars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible. I was right next to that guy.
Speaker 4: I was like tearing up and Dylan is laughing his
ass off that she was, and then he like was
complaining when she comes back later.
Speaker 6: Can somebody like remove this guy.
Speaker 2: From the theater right now? He's ruining my experience.
Speaker 7: But for me, I'll sign it again with you guys,
that sequence where the score just kicks in and they're
both just looking at this long neck just dying, and
it's just it's it is really sad and so much
more for me when I how I interpret this moment again,
like in Fallen Kingdom with that long neck, these animals
were brought back for our entertainment, and now they're just
brutally suffering because of our stupidity and our mistakes that
we made, and so that all resonates in this singular
moment where this thing is dying and you have this
one on one with it, and it really just will
always hit home. These are moments where they're exploring this
aspect of these dinosaurs and these animals more so than
we ever seen before in the original trilogy, and I
think that it's definitely something that works for these new movies.
You get it multiple times in Fallen Kingdom again, where
Blue is like removing the bullet wound and it's just
suffering and you just it hits home for me.
Speaker 6: So there you go, Kirka and Jessica, anything's go ahead
of Jexica's like you're gonna shut some out.
Speaker 3: Well that was that long neck was animatronic.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah, like the one laying on the ground.
Speaker 6: I would imagine all of them we need Yeah, they
don't need to move, they just gotta look real good dead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's one thing usually when movies tryings CG
I like petting, it's always so awkward. But that was
actually like, oh, it actually looks like you're touching something.
So appreciated that detail. One of the other notes I
had is when we did the last one, I talked
about how they should have rubbed shit on themselves so
they didn't smell like anything. So I was super happy,
was super happy when Pratt pulled out the gas and
dumped it all over himself to cover a smell, because
I'm like, thank you, someone gets it.
Speaker 4: So he just had that on him like the entire movie,
Like when he's macing with uh Claire at one point, she.
Speaker 5: Just keeps gasoline.
Speaker 4: That sounds like like there's no evidence that he has
had any gas on him whatsoever. He's looking clean, his
clothes are all nice and dry here.
Speaker 6: But I also, I gotta look.
Speaker 1: It up on an urban dictionary because I feel like
you and I have argued about what macking means before,
so I need. Yeah, I feel like, let me put
in macking is flirting to attract members of.
Speaker 6: The opposite sex. So see, so gay people you're not,
you can't mac.
Speaker 1: Apparently if you're it's just the opposite sex macking when
you're spitting game on the super Fine Girl.
Speaker 6: So we're kind of both wrong. Macing is not fucking
or kissing.
Speaker 1: It's just like like Doris at the beginning, you doing
this literally fucking beetlejuice over here.
Speaker 3: It's just staring at women at a train platform.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 6: But then what so the third result though in urban
Dictionary is to hardcore makeout. That's like you and I.
I'd say, yeah, it's top gun sexy number one, you
know with all those times. Thing a mac is a
man who can woo a female.
Speaker 1: The opposite sex with his adductive actions or dominating mac bro.
As a tribute to his skills, the woman will often
do whatever he likes. This includes actions such as paying
for meals and even rand Holy fuck, we just need
an Urban Dictionary episode of the originals we're paying.
Speaker 6: We should do that.
Speaker 5: Just put a bunch of terms. That's genius.
Speaker 6: Put it in a chili rainbow. So who comes up
to the chili rainbow? Ye, there you go. He can
if he wants. But I don't know if he's gonna
want to do that. But while he's looking for.
Speaker 3: That, what is it?
Speaker 6: Tell me?
Speaker 5: I will save that for I don't want to, I
don't wanna know.
Speaker 3: I want to know.
Speaker 5: There, I'll read this context. There's an example here. Rachel
had done crazy Ship before, but nothing like the Chili
rainbow Martin had planned.
Speaker 2: So I remember, kayle don't fully understand.
Speaker 1: But I my last point, but we get on track
and end this thing is we did a game of
Mafia one time at Dylan's place and when I was
the whatever, the leader, so I was like doing the
whole like oh, and you wake up and someone's dead,
and I was using all these very sexual like porn
terms and stuff like that, like oh, he died from
a chili rainbow, and no one had any idea what
the fuck I was talking about. But I was laughing
and having a good time because I was thrown all
these and no one I think everyone was looking at
me like no one's getting this, like stop it, but
like no, I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 6: And people I think I gave them something to go
home and look about. But Kirk and you're gonna say
something there. Uh yeah.
Speaker 4: Just to get back on track here, the t rec
scene when Claire goes and retrieves you know, we need
more teeth and on that. On that note, what was
this kid's like obsession with like numbers and like you
just constantly like I don't know, he's more just like
a mathematician. Yeah, we need more teeth here, and he's
like just doing these quick number of things. I thought
it was gonna have a bigger significance later on the movie,
but it was just just led to the line like
we just need more teeth, and I didn't think it
was fully nestard. But anyways, when Claire goes to received
the twar actually as the the ian Malcolm Flair, you know,
like great callback to the original movie. Fuck you guys,
I'm not laughing at you, Kurt, I know I heard
the notification. Yeah, exactly what's going on?
Speaker 6: Laughing at Kirkland's analysis. He thinks this is like Jurassic
Park one. But you know, it's a good tribute. It's
a good it's a good part. I like what they're
going with.
Speaker 4: But like like in that moment, like she waited so
long for the t Rex like right in front of her,
Like yeah, I feel like it's a high chance. And
he was not making it too. She's not making it
to the clash with the adominance at that moment because.
Speaker 5: It's thirty miles per hour. So John Hammon says they
clocked the t Rex out.
Speaker 4: Right, so and like he was basically right there. And
then it's like, Okay, here's a meal I haven't eaten
in a while. Like there's no real reason from his
perspective to just like see where she's going with this,
Like oh, there's a meal right here. It was just
strange to me huge balls on her behalf to just like,
first of all, go to do that. I'd been like, hey,
open open the paddock and I'll just I don't know,
eate some firecrackers, hopefully draw it over closer to the adominous.
Speaker 1: But I was just she was bold cause think she
goes to good aim because I man, she would have
thrown that fucking flare like into her own.
Speaker 6: All and the tearx just head dies in there.
Speaker 1: But we talked about in the trailer that there's that
moment where Bryce Alice Howard Yell's run and I will
give it to her anytime we get to that moment
when we were she just has that blood.
Speaker 6: Curdling yell of run. One of the best deliveries of
the word run. She sells it.
Speaker 1: She looks so scared for those kids and this semi boyfriend.
Yeah yeah, but uh semi boyfriend, which I like think
some of the kids jokes they're like, oh, your boyfriend's
are so cool and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: That's kind of fun. Yeah, some fun back and see.
Speaker 2: Your kind of face clow up in those moments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when they're like oh, we're gonna stay with
you and she's like, yeah, of course, I'm never gonna
leave you. And then he's like nohamn not you Like
fuck that that stuff worked for me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Kirkland said that he didn't like the kids
spitting facts, but I feel like that's definitely a kid
type personality trait, you know. Just it was also the.
Speaker 4: Numbers thing with that one kid. He was just like
again I can't rattle it off. I don't remember specifically
what he said, but like he's just getting that like
the size of the island he's obsessed with, and then
he's just like constantly obsessed with the number of teeth.
Speaker 3: It was just yeah, it was just dinosaurs.
Speaker 6: Fish kid didn't like.
Speaker 5: His intelligence kids smart for his own good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know where were you like that as
a kid? Was dinosaurs Like you're get spit off all
these random things.
Speaker 7: Uh, dinosaurs, no cars, truck stiggers, no bonacles.
Speaker 5: I could fucking go all day. Let me tell you, METRONI,
I could read it out.
Speaker 2: Beautiful. Last thing I'll say on Jurassic World.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 4: I gotta actually have like a sequence with the Ankleosaurus,
like like doing something like showing off his his Hey,
don't get there yet, Taylor, Like, you know, he's showing
off his his range of abilities. And then unfortunately they
have the fucking super Rex just coming here and murder
my boy and flip them.
Speaker 3: Up on his back.
Speaker 5: Was that your long neck moment? But my long neck
moment for you? You tear up at that.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I didn't really remember the outcome of
that scene. I like hyped. I was just hyped what you.
Speaker 6: Thought I was gonna take down to the dominant Rex.
Speaker 2: And that you thought he was gonna bat around the
gyrosphere in that moment.
Speaker 4: I didn't know he was actually gonna clash with the
but he he was put up a fight with the
with the Dominus.
Speaker 5: Little his buddies just fucking bailed on.
Speaker 6: They read that room quick.
Speaker 2: Like Travis, we play war Zone. The team alive for
the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are going to talk lately, I feel like,
But no, I like the Giantsphere scene too.
Speaker 6: It's fun like that would be a fun ride. But
I like the way the dansa. I love the whole
mouth on it.
Speaker 1: And they think they're almost out of the woods, and
then of course Claire fucking phones them.
Speaker 6: So all I like every pretty much everything that's scene.
It all works pretty.
Speaker 2: Well about Jimmy Fallon making appearance, being a goof on
the screen.
Speaker 6: That's what I like.
Speaker 1: I don't dislike Jimmy Fallon now, but that's when I
like Jimmy Fallon. I guess I used to watch almost
every late night talk shogar. I was a huge late
night talk show guy. That's probably one of the jobs
i'd like want to do in the future and stuff.
But now I just don't because cable and Yeah, but yeah,
I used to like Jimmy Fallon enough.
Speaker 6: I know people really hate them. I don't love them anymore,
but you know.
Speaker 3: I don't know at the time for sure. Oh an
exciting kind of cameo Kirk saying you love them?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love them.
Speaker 4: I like, I haven't really fallen out of love with
him again, Like I don't watch those shows really anymore.
It used to be like when I was living, like
way back in the day, when he just said cable
like growing up like it would be. I think when
he first took over the show, we were watching a
little bit more. But like I think, I just it's
times you've probably seen this. Have you seen Taxi with
Queen Latifa and Jimmy Fallon.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. That was like a
rotation movie for me as a kid. I fucking loved it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what a movie I know, so so random,
but I also just really love seeing like his best
of snls, Like I really just grew to like the actor,
and I feel like it was because of that movie Taxi,
which is it's probably like one of those ten percent
raw tomato movies, but I have fond memories of it.
Speaker 1: I didn't think Taxi be coming up tonight, but it did.
I should have thought about, like it's Jimmy Fallon, but
anything else to shout out lady and gentleman.
Speaker 3: So I got one more thing, okay, do it? So
another kind of problem that I have with it escaping
is so one. Why would they give this random security
guard the power to open and close the gate to
the most powerful dinosaur that cost twenty seven million dollars.
Speaker 4: And reviser that he wasn't just random guy, he was
the supervisors.
Speaker 3: It's not enough power to get the key to open
that gate. It's all fair. You know, he has a
mental break and he's just like, screw this island. You know,
It's just it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: He had a really weird look when he died too,
Like when Chris Pratt was looking at him, he was
like he wasn't scared at all.
Speaker 6: It was a weird take.
Speaker 3: So and then the other part is when they're stuck
inside and he does go to open the gate, I
feel like the main control would just be like no
and just stop. That be like sacrifice too for the many.
Wouldn't be like, yeah, let's wait for it to open,
wait for Chris Pratt to run to the door. It
would just kind of be like, well, sucks to suck.
You know. Guys should have waited till I told you
where the freaking massive dinosaur was instead of just walking
in to go look at the scrape marks.
Speaker 5: I I'm on board with that.
Speaker 7: My I employed this actual strategy and dress cod evolution,
where you have your initial fence for your paddock, and
then in case the gate is open and something wants
to sneak out, you have a additional semiperimeter fence to
contain it. Like, obviously, this is not a viewing observatory
for the Dominus rex is a containment area for now,
so they should have they should have had more contingencies
on top of their contingencies.
Speaker 1: Well, you two their in Jurassic worlth Have you ever
had to make that decision, you know, sacrifice two for
the many?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'll just blatantly sacrifice my guests.
Speaker 6: Just to see latently, Oh my god, what the fuck
is this? You're the worst owner out of them all.
Speaker 7: I'm definitely no John Hammond, I can tell you that,
and he wasn't a good owner to begin with.
Speaker 6: So well, foul thoughts ratings will go first.
Speaker 1: I think I've said everything like it again. It's it
doesn't have the depth of the first Jurassic Park. Doesn't
have the characters that I like Claire and Owen Grady,
but they're not nowhere near the original three, and even
some of the other characters, like John Hammond, still would
rate them like lower than that.
Speaker 6: But it's an enjoyable time. I like them enough.
Speaker 1: I like some of the set pieces of the spectacularness
of it. I said I I think it gets a
little weaker as it goes on, but I do think
the third act is good. Like with the t Rex,
with the raptor like Blue Team you up to take
it out. Like I think that part is good, it's
just more it gets fantastical and very kind of unbelievable.
That's definitely the world that we get into with these
drastic world movies. They definitely are jumping even further than
the other ones. That's where you kind of got to
sit and go, Okay, this is what we're doing now.
You know, I'm fine with it. Let's go and yeah,
I like it. I still enjoy it. I would give
this a seven out of ten. That's where I am
with it. I think before I used to be like
an eight to or eight point five, but I'd definitely
gone down because I remember the first time I saw it,
I had like the drive in a couple of weeks
after I fell asleep because it was one of those
where when Kirkham was talking about, oh, when you watch
on the small screen, you know you see more of
the maybe the CGI. And one that's because like I think,
just as a screen small, your eyes more focused on
it all that posed like the big theater. But two,
I think this was definitely a movie where it's like, Okay,
this is much better as a theater experience. You know,
this is much better being surrounded by people, are having
that loud sound where once you get at home. Okay,
there's still some you know, uh, some pros too, There's
still something I enjoy. I said, I would watch this
movie not just because of the retro you know, I
would enjoy watching it. But it's one of these that Okay,
once it was opening night and the first time, it
did lose a little bit of its luster for me.
So I seven out of ten though, still enjoy it.
Still movie I go back to and watch so Crook
and Batser very nice.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I you know, I was picking up or
picking off some specifics of things I have issues with,
but overall, like it's still it's still a fantastic movie.
I think it just brings you back to that Dino world.
And as I said, uh, like in the early section
early overall thoughts, like I think they really executed the
scale of having the Jurassic World, Like it really does
feel bigger than just having a Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: So I think that's really important. And yeah, like all
in all, it was it was a good time.
Speaker 4: Like I said, like, I think Chris Pratt's are such
a good like, like, pick for this new what does
it even call it? Like when it's not a new
like franchise, but it's just like a new.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah.
Speaker 6: Cool, but yeah nowadays it's like the legacy sequels what
they're calling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like to have him as like leading it.
Speaker 4: I think that's such a great pick for them and
obviously worked out because he's just a superstar actor. After
Guardians and everything else he's done now, so it's it's
fantastic having him just still a part of it. And
I think there was a lot of fun like Dino moments.
I I forgot to show out the scene when they're
in the gyro sphere and like they're I think it's uh,
I don't even know the kid's name, Gray Grayson, I
imagine is his name. They kept calling him gray. It's
like that's a weird name. But they're like counting the
ankles sources and then he's like, no, there's like five
Dinos and then you can see the indominance like in
the reflection that was That was a great scene from
where it lies though my rating, I I think I'm
gonna give it an eight out of ten, which is
the exact same thing I gave dress Park three.
Speaker 2: So how you will? I think that you will, Travis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll take it all right, But yeah, I
know it's it's it's it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 4: I think it kind of maybe some excitement around watching
it has definitely tapered off, like since that initial viewing,
but it's it's still great.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I'll leave it there, Jessica.
Speaker 3: So I will not be seeing the next one in theaters,
so I'll go ahead and well, if I do, I
won't be on the review because I won't be able
to see it a sap, So go ahead and throw
this out that you know, I probably like it the
same as three, which means I like it more than
one and then two being the least appreciated in my books.
And I know that's a hot take, but I'm putting
it out there anyway. I yes, there is definitely some
weird kind of plot things, some weird line things, but
I enjoy all the action of it. I enjoy all
the dinosaurs. I like the gene splicing. I think it's
a fun kind of take. I don't know that it's
a fun ride for me. I probably will not watch
it again. In the next you know, ten years however
long maybe when my kids get into dinosaurs, if that
ever happens. But yeah, it's the same with the other ones.
I don't watch rest of Park one, two, or three,
so you know, it's no different there. Overall, it was
a fun ride.
Speaker 5: I like it, do you, Phil Well?
Speaker 7: For me, this movie again has a lot of nostalgia
that's just swooping in because it's just been so long
and hey, we got this new sequel refreshing the franchise,
and now we're here and after we watching this original movie.
It it definitely will always hold a special place in
my heart. And I think because of certain things that
they changed up from the previous trilogy and certain new
things that they pulled off, which I do quite enjoy.
I'm it's no way in any shape or form original
Jurassic Park, but I am going to probably rank it
at an eight ten and I would probably put Drassic
Park three over this if I had to, like pick
the movies, I will do rankings, but like I would
pick Drastic Park three to watch over this, just because
I do enjoy that adventure more than this adventure.
Speaker 6: That's why.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, fucking I'm shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling Dominion Dominion is gonna rank high for
Taylor Phil I could see that.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's gonna be number one.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I like, it's hard to hold that down. It's gonna
be fucking crawling.
Speaker 6: I don't think it will be lower than number two
in my opinion for him.
Speaker 1: That's that's my prediction right now. When we see that movie,
it'll at least be two or higher. That's what I
think Dominion will be.
Speaker 7: If you want an honest review, like we should not
do the Dispoiser of You til a year later after
I've settled, but like doing it right after, it's gonna
be I'm sorry, it's gonna be biased and be fucking loved.
Speaker 6: I was wondering where you're going. I was like, man,
does he just take down Geek first? And he's like,
if you want an honest review, So I'm like, what
are you saying this entire I don't even anything honest? No,
I just mean like in terms of it's not even
I don't even like Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: You just we needed a positive guy on the podcast,
so we sit tayl there, You're gonna play the positive guy.
Speaker 7: I just mean when when we do that review, I'm
just gonna be like on Cloud Night, unless like they
do do things lately. Yeah, five minutes in and they
do do things that I really fucking hate that just
ruin everything. Then I'm gonna be as blunt as possible.
But I can tell like, I'm just gonna go in
and just be.
Speaker 6: In love with it. So they could it could be
your last ship.
Speaker 3: And the dinosaurs are living, breathing our current error and
not dying off immediately.
Speaker 5: Oh that's what I've been.
Speaker 6: That's that's an F out of That's an F out
of ten for combats zero ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, welle like audible in the theater. They shouldn't even
be able to breathe right now.
Speaker 6: Shut the funk up, my kids trying to wash I
don't care about your dinosaur.
Speaker 2: Bruce is impossible.
Speaker 3: This isn't real.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when Sam Neil get old, he's just sitting on everything.
Why is he twenty years older than Ellie? Yeah? Uh
but well there we go.
Speaker 3: We did it.
Speaker 6: Uh. Yeah, we'll be back to the lot of time
when we with dominion.
Speaker 1: You'll get their Jurassic Park falling, Kingdom World, whatever, fall
and Keen when we did a couple of days ago,
and yeah, thank you very much for tuning in the
next one that met Kirk Taylor gonna be doing his Predator.
We're finally gonna be doing that because Prayer or what
the fuck is that Gonne coming out? Pray, Yeah, that's
coming out.
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, I'll be the next retro and then
after that there'll be some breaks, but the patrons there
will not be.
Speaker 1: You can get those things early and see what we're
cooking up. So until then, brons you will, I'll be
born by