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Speaker 4: Good evening, gentlemen. As always happy to be on with you,
guys talking all things ACC.
Speaker 3: We're happy to have you back. We're happy to have
you back. Man.
Speaker 2: So tell us tell us about yourself, Ethan, if there's
anything that you'd like to play, you know, anything that
you want to tell us about yourself, our listeners, anything
that you want to plug. Hey give you a pretty
long rundown here at the beginning of the show. But
if there's any special features that you're working on on
the show, anything any new content coming for basketball season,
let us know the four is yours.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks guys. Yeah, So Louisville basketball season kicks off
in earnest or tips off rather tomorrow night at nine
o'clock on the ACC network. I will have the first
official game postgame show at about midnight Tuesday morning after
that game goes final as the Cards host South Carolina State.
So looking forward to that. And again, like you said, now,
our show, Louisville Sports Live, is the city's longest running
all UFL sports talk show in Louisville, and we're on
most of the time. We're on at seven, but during
the basketball and football seasons at times we might be
moved to eight o'clock because a lot of the times
the Jeff Bram Show is It's seven o'clock. So I
believe this week we'll be on it eight again because
the Coach Bromshow will be on It's seven this Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Awesome. Awesome. So let's get right to it, man, which
ACC football team was the most disappointing team in week ten?
By which which ACC team was the most impressive team? Slip?
Speaker 4: It's okay, So I mean I can give you both.
I mean, the most disappointing team in the ACC has
to be Clemson, right, I mean, they're three and five,
they're flirting with a losing record overall. You gave up
forty forty six points to Duke, and Duke looks to
be a solid team, but they're nothing great and they
go into Death Valley and just score at will on them.
I mean, I think certainly. Now I saw on social
media that that infamous Debo press conference is being played
at nauseum talking about you know, y'all get tired of
win and you can run me out of here. And
they're not doing a lot of winning this year three
and five, like I mentioned earlier, certainly out of the
ACC race. They played Florida State guys this weekend, you know,
and we'll find out if Clemson is quit. It kind
of looks like they have to be honest with you,
it looks like they have quit. But we'll see what
happens there. The most disappointing team has to be it
has to be Clemson, and the most impressive team I'm
gonna go with SMU. I mean, when they suffered the
first two early losses against Big twelve teams, a lot
of us rode them off, myself included, certainly. Don't think
they are as good as they were last year. But certainly,
you know, coming from my Louisville Cardinals background, I have
that game on November twenty second. I mean that's going
to be a huge game potentially for Charlotte, for Louisville,
and potentially maybe SMU, So that could be an elimination game.
So I think SMU was certainly the team that would
be the most celebrated as they knocked off number ten Miami.
They stormed the field, tore down the goalpost, and it
looks like Kevin Jennings and company are starting to get
things rolling just at the right time.
Speaker 3: Excellent takes. Excellent take, excellent takes. Yeah, you're up brand.
Speaker 1: All right, Ethan. As we look ahead to next week,
what ACC football game games are you looking forward to
the most in this upcoming week?
Speaker 4: Man, you know, guys, you already know. I have to
go with my with my squad. California comes to town
seven o'clock kickoff on ESPN two. Lowell's now number fourteen
in the nation. The Golden Bears lost, you know, a
close game to Virginia, and man, they I think Virginia
must be the, if not the luckiest, one of the
luckiest teams in the nation, just with everything they flirt
with losses. Of course, they stunned my Louisville Cardinals a
few weeks ago. You know, it's a three point game.
Cal had the ball, uh you know, driving they throw
a throw an interception and not only was it an
interception to steal the game, uh uva ran it in
and had a lot of people, including me lose their
Cal Plus plus money bets. So Plus points me in
their bets there, but Louisville Cal. Again, Louisville has to
win every single game remanding on their schedule if they
want to make it to Charlotte. Certainly they look to
they should be able to take care of business against
the Golden Bears. I do think that jet lag is real.
Even though the game is at you know, four o'clock
Pacific time. Still, all that travel has to be taxing
on your body, even if you are a top flight
Power Conference athlete. I still think there there is something
to say to get over that hunt Cal is not
the same team on the road as they are at home.
This game would this game would scare me, kind of
like the Virginia Tech game scared me going in last night.
But this game is at home, so I'm confident that
the Cards are going to be able to pull it
out and improve the eight and one, and again, just
just if they can win and take care of business,
Charlotte would be a possibility.
Speaker 1: All right, Very good Ethan, Which acc team could be
on upset alert in week eleven if they're looking ahead
to a game on their schedule or otherwise just sleepwalking
on the field.
Speaker 4: Man, that's such a good question. I'm going to I'm
going to go back to Clemson. I mentioned it earlier.
Florida State travels to Death Valley. It's going to be
a night game, and you know, we'll find out if
Clemson has given up on the season. Of course, Florida
State got a nice win overweight Forest by Way at
forty two to seven. Looks like Florida State has not
quit on their coach. You saw Dabbo getting in his
d and listen, his defense deserved a tongue lashing. They
were terrible. I mean they were like a sieve, giving
up so many points. It was embarrassing. So they deserved
the tongue lashing they got from their coach. But we'll
find out if they've if they've given up. There's not
a whole lot to play for. I mean, Clemson was,
you know, a consensus pick to win the ACC and
to go back to the playoff, And like I said earlier,
now there's question if they're going to get going to
have a winning season. So I think that they're certainly
on upset alert. You know, if Duke can go in
there and be Clemson Florida State camp, perhaps perhaps maybe
Florida State thinks now that they got a nice win
against Wake Forest, that they could salvage their season by
winning out. Florida State. Schedule is pretty manageable. You know,
if you can beat Alabama, you pretty much can beat
the rest of your remaining opponents on your slates. So
perhaps maybe they're weren't going to use this as a
springboard to finish their season off on a five game
win streak. So Clemson, for me, guys would be that
team on upset alert for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, even let's step out of the ACC for
a bit here. Which National FBS game or FCS game
are you looking forward to the most in Week eleven?
And we're wide open with this question. This can be
a power for G five game. You can even have
an FCS matchup and again give us the winner of
that game or two that's caught your eye nationally.
Speaker 4: So on Friday night it is going to be Tulane
traveling to Houston. I'm sorry to Memphis, excuse me. And
I think you know, when you talk about I think
if you talk about the group of five potentially making
a playoff, it's going to come more than likely from
the American unless there's chaos and Susan JM. You continue
used to win out. But Tulane at Memphis. For me,
Memphis is favored by six and a half. Certainly, if
Tulane loses a game that they're out, it looks like
they're on the outside looking in already. But that could
be a you know, a final dagger for Tulane. And
then also too, Texas A and M travels to Missouri.
Number three aggies up against the number nineteen Missouri Tigers.
That's at Missouri. Texas A and M certainly looks like
a challenger for the national championship. But they also have,
you know, they have a stern test in Colombia, and
that's again that's like most teams, you know, this is
anything crazy, but playing at home, Missouri is a much
better team than on the road. And then while Texas
A and M has certainly showed themselves to be a
very very good team, chaousin sews would be I would
be stunned if A and M runs through their s
SEC slate undefeated.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm also you know, looking at b YU and
Texas Tech top ten match. Yeah yeah, I mean that's
you know, in a in a week that at the
beginning of the year had you know, Indiana going to
Penn State and uh, you know LSU playing in Alabama,
two games that aren't even on anyone's radar because of
you know, Penn State and LSU firing their coaches. You know,
that's one of the definite top games of the weekend
with major playoff implications, you know, not only for them,
but you could end up with a one loss b
YU team and a one lost Texas Tech team and
how that that could even affect you know, some of
the ACC teams that are instill in playoff contention. So
that's going to be a fun one and one I
think Texas Tech is going to take care of business
against b Yu's gonna be a guy.
Speaker 4: Guys. I don't even know how I missed that game.
The get in price for this one four hundred and
sixty five dollars, So that is a must have ticket
down there and love it ridiculous.
Speaker 3: I I I act, guys, I actually think Wake is
going to be a tricky opponent at U b A.
Speaker 4: I do too.
Speaker 3: I mean it's they've been playing much better the last
few weeks. The last few weeks, they seem like they
seem like they've been more disciplined every week. And you
wonder how much longer a way do you walk and
can get you know, like you said, like you said,
you think can be it can charm aba. They seem
you know, so it'll be. It'll be interesting interesting for
me to see how how how that one plays out,
how that one plays out, because what Wakes has sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Demon Deacons really turned it around. I thought
after they had beat Kennessall State by one point, I
thought Wake Forrest was headed to like a two to
ten type of season. That's not the case. That's not
the case. As a coach, Dickert, I believe he's done
a really good job. Man. He looks like Wake is
probably gonna make a bowl game and they could play spoiler.
I don't disagree with you at all, right there. I
certainly think that, you know, Virginia again has been flirting
with a loss for weeks. Credit to them though, they're
making the plays and finding a way to win. But
I do think they're gonna slip up here soon, you know.
I think I feel like it would be on the
road more so than it would be at home. But
you never know. But yeah, I wouldn't be I wouldn't
be sad at all. The Demon Deacons find a way
to win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I lay on this. I think if
the game I kind of agree with even I think
if the game was in Winston Salem, I would feel
like an upset was more likely. Virginia actually showed me
a lot by going out west and knocking off California,
and I thought that was a prime upset spot. I
feel like they'll be able to handle wake forces and
I'm you know, this is getting a week ahead. But
that game at Duke, I think it is going to
be an extremely dangerous one for Virginia. That offense, and
and you know we've already Anthan's already mentioned. You know
they went into to Clemson, and Clemson, you know they've
got talent on that defense that they might be terribly
coached at the moment, but I mean there's talent on
that defense. And uh, you know that that offense with
with the deep ball at Dari and Mensa, it's shredded
Clemson's defense to pieces. And you know, player for player,
we know there's NFL players on on Clemson squad. I mean,
Duke looked just as fast at most positions.
Speaker 3: Daf as they're not looking ahead. They had a bad
they've had a bad series of games with Duke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a really that's a really good
that's a really good point. I mean, I mean they
could be looking at Duke, you know as as that
game that they're they're really iron on, especially wake Forest
had had been playing well and really got thumped down
in Tallahassee. But I mean, Duke, that that offense is
one of the most explosive in the A c C.
It might be the most you know explosive one, you
know in the conference over the last four or five uh,
over the last four five weeks. And yeah, if Virginia
can get by wake Forest, man, that that's that one's
gonna feel like an upset. Upset especially and of course
it's the rivalry game. And we all know about the
Commonwealth Cup record with Virginia Tech and Virginia. So yeah,
Virginia right now, you know they're taking care of business
getting the wins. Uh, but they still got a lot
going up ahead of them that before we can put
them in, before we can put them in Charlotte. All right, Ethan.
Our last two segments of the podcast are open mic segments.
The first one here is just for you. Whatever you
want to talk about, whatever's on your mind, whether it
be something with Louisville, the ACC or national, We'll let
you go whenever you're ready.
Speaker 4: Guys, it's got to be for me. The ridiculous buyouts
that these fired coaches are getting. I don't know how
we're going to stop this, but it needs to be stopped.
I don't know if there has if there can be
like a universal understanding, some legislation from the nc DOUBLEA, whatever,
that's that's pie in the sky. Wish we're thinking if
the NCAA does anything meaningful. But you know, you have
forty thirty fifty million dollar buyouts for being fired for
not doing your job well enough. I mean, I'm not
saying even like the day you fire them, they don't
get his penny. I'm not even saying that. Perhaps you
pay them throughout the end of the calendar year or
the end of the fiscal year or something, but you
do not need to pay these coaches two, three, four,
five years down the road when they're not even working.
Like I don't know, I mean, I don't know how
this is how this had all started to begin with.
But it is totally out of control, you know. And
again I don't feel sorry for any coach that gets
fired because they're going to be you know, they're making
generational wealth by not working. So it is a high stakes,
high rewards job. Certainly there's a lot of pressure. Certainly
you should be compensated well, but if you're fired, you
should not be getting years upon years after the fact
when you were dismissed, maybe to the maybe to December
thirty first, maybe to June thirty of the following year,
but that should be it.
Speaker 1: And no kidding Ethan, these buyouts are insane. And another
coach got fired today, You Freeze, and they're ruthless in
the in the sec though, I think you know, you
Freeze was really struggling there at Auburn and that kind
of that proud program is really a mess right now.
But man, across the country that there is like a
hatchet man going across major college footballs and mail and
coaches one after the other and coordinators and uh, you know,
if you're not getting the head coach, the coordinators are
getting it. This has been a this has been a
blood bath this this October with coaches getting fired.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, and I understand, like listen, it's
win now and there is no like we need a
three or four year plan. No, not with it, not
in the age of the portal, not in the age
of nil. You need to win, and you need to
win now. And if you don't, it's like the NFL,
except it's going to be earlier in the season. I mean,
you know, coach Private Virginia take what was that after
week three? But yeah, if you're not winning, see you.
But just because you got fired again, you should you
should not get everything owed to you as if you
were working there. You got fired because you didn't do
you didn't do your job up to the expectation when
you were first brought in. If they gave Priye his
salary to the end of the Year December thirty. First, Okay,
like that is you could argue that would be reasonable.
And again, because it's such a high stakes, high stress job.
Sure you're well compensated for the job that you do,
and you're well compensated if you get if you get removed,
like if you get some put a severance, But the
vast majority of employers out here, if you get fired,
you're not getting your salary, you know, two weeks, two
months after the fact, let alone years. So we've kind
of been able to rein that in. But again too,
it's like, well, why would you do that? If other
schools are willing to do that, then that's not going
to help you in negotiating a new contract for a
new coach.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, absolutely all right, Matthew, I'm going to turn
it over to you for a final segment in the podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm going to use my open microphone segment to ask
a question, so you're actually going to have two open
my two open microphones here, Ethan Moore. My first question
then for you, or my only question is is Mario
Crystal Wall Is he somebody who does less with more
than any body in the ACC. I bring that to you.
Speaker 4: Ethan, that's a great question, and it's it's an easily
answered one, yes, without a doubt. And we're talking about
coaches buyouts and nil Carson Beck was what making a
report of four million dollars a year? Are you kidding me?
I mean he's I mean the amount of interceptions that
he's thrown over the last three weeks, I mean, that
is that is ridiculous, and I'm sure the Miami's donors
aren't aren't very happy with that. I mean, listen, he
should be well compensated because he agreed to play there
for X amount, But if you were, you know, being
loose with the ball and turning it over at the
rate that he is, I mean, his talary's got to
get checked as well, because he's not earning that four
million dollar mark. Yeah. And then Mario Christapal, I mean,
he's a good coach, but like once again, you know,
you had the great win over Notre Dame, had a
very impressive win over South Florida. You beat Florida soundly,
and then you know, Louisville laid out the blueprint on
and how to win. They played a fantastic game down
there in Coral Gables, a few weeks ago, flustered Carson
Beck and now he hasn't really been able to get
out of his own way. He had a better game
against Stanford, but I mean most people do against the Cardinal,
but then you know, I had that just brutal turnover
and overtime that interception there, and when you get paid,
just like a coach, Guys, if you're a player, now
you're a professional athlete in college at the Power conference level,
you're expected to perform. And if you're making seven figures,
well into the seven figures, you know, if you don't,
you're gonna get criticism. I mean, if that continues, I mean,
you can make the argument that christ of ball should
go with somebody else, but I think that's kind of
like it's kind of like a sample of his team.
He's a good coach. Miami has been good. But when
you when you when you talk about the payroll that
they have good should be great, and they're not.
Speaker 3: This is what I want to hear. Okay, I'm gonna
turn you over. If you have another open if you
have another open micropunt segment, since.
Speaker 4: You have, well I can tell you, I can tell
you this as well. We're gonna have to get We're
gonna have to get ahold of these coaches buyouts, and
we're gonna have to have again I don't know how
you do, but we're gonna have to really reel in
to a degree, like how how these student athletes make money?
Because you still have the collectives, which I like, the
five O two circle at u of L has been fantastic.
They're innovative, they're they're cutting edge on things. Now you
have the revenue share. But then you know, our our rival,
the team up the road in basketball, their salary for
their roster is twenty two million. I mean again, I
want these I want these young men and young women
to certainly make money that you know, the NCAA has
not done them justice for decades prior to this, but
like twenty two million for eight months collectively, Like, I mean,
you know, what are we doing here? Again? I can listen,
I can hear both sides of the argument. If the
school is willing to pay them and the market demands that, sure,
but like, if this is not going to be sustainable,
I mean it's simply not. You're not going to be
able to ask at the vast majority of para conference schools.
You're not going to be able to ask your big
time donors for years after years after years. Can we,
you know, can we get another seven figure donation, especially
like if you're missing the mark. Now, if you're doing
that and you're making the college football playoff and you're
making a Final four, Okay, that's a little different, but
that's twelve teams out of one hundred and thirty six
and that's four teams out of three hundred and sixty five.
So you know, that's a very small percentage of teams,
you know, being that successful. So you know, is is
the genie out of the bottle? Yes? But to what
degree can both of these you know, line items be limited,
because I think if they can be, you're going to
have even more parody. And again I'm not saying you
have to, you know, really extremely decrease it. Now. I
think you should for the coach's salaries in the buyouts,
but in terms of nil for the players, let's streamline
it a little bit. Let's that's kind of let's have
a little bit more contractual language in these and these
interactions to whereas you know, if you're going to sign
in an IO deal, can it be two years. You
know what I mean? Are you bound by this? Do
you have to do X, Y and z? Is it
statistics related? You know things like that. I think, you know,
the more streamlined that can be, the better, the better.
But you know, as it stands right now, I mean,
you know, these college basketball college football rosters, I mean
the percentage with which they are growing from year to year,
it's just not going to be sustainable for much longer.
Speaker 3: Amen, brother, Amen, Jap you're.
Speaker 1: Guys. College basketball starts tomorrow, there's a slew of ACC games.
You got Duke playing Texas on Tuesday night. So I
know Matthew and I have talked about this. We consider
this the best time of the year with when you
got the college football and college basketball going on at
the at the same time. Yeah, it should be a
wild month of November. You know. In the a c C.
I think there's you got Virginia undefeated in the league,
and then five other teams if I'm not mistaken, with
one one loss. Let me pull that up right now.
We'll go through who has the one loss and still
has a chance to get to to Charlotte. Here, you
got Georgia Tech, uh five and one in the league
after that upset against NC State last night where you know,
you know that one, that one hurt me. But you know, big, big,
big respect to to NC State in that one. You know,
down justin Jolly and Hollywood's mothers, their top two offensive
players and just coming out with a great grilling plan
on Georgia Tech as defense just just shredded it to
pieces the entire night. C. J. Bailey look like, you know,
look like you looked like Lamar Jackson from and you
know in that one. That's that's how well he played
and and how poorly Georgia Tech's defense played. But they're
still in the thick of the A C C race.
You got Pittsburgh five and one in league, really playing
well lately in Georgia Tech and played Georgia Tech, and
Pittsburgh played later in the year Louisville four and one,
of course, right in the mix s m U four
and one after knocking off uh Miami Duke four and one.
After that, you know, heart stop and win down at
down at Clemson and going for two on that final
two point conversion in Miami. You know, maybe they're not
mathematically out as two and two, but they're definitely on
the outside looking in, and I mean that that's that's
a lot of teams who still have a lot to
play for in November. So you know, between that and
college football starting, it's it's gonna be a great November.
Speaker 3: Amen, brother.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think too. If you're talking guys
about the ACC football product overall, I mean it might
not be as you know, eye popping and eye catching
as the sec of their Big ten, but you talk
about in terms of drama and storylines. I mean, all
those teams you mentioned with one loss, or you know,
Virginia who is undefeated but kind of not really in
the ACC. That makes for great television, great drama at
the end of this month. I mean, you have a
wide open race outside right now if u v A,
if uv A loses a game, I mean, look out,
you're you're going to have I mean you very well
could be with that third weekend in November and we
still might not have the ACC matchup set. I mean
that this is what this is all about. I mean,
talk about high stakes games, high stakes you know, drama
going on before you find out who makes it to Charlotte.
I mean, it's it's it's all great. It's it's going
to be much much wash TV, even if it's not
the traditional powers like in the SEC or the Big Ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're absolutely right, Ethan. I mean those those games,
you know they're going to have you know, national implications
because someone or maybe a second ACC team is going
to get into the playoffs. So I mean that's a
lot of teams who still have a chance to not
only get to Charlotte, but find themselves, you know, in
a position to to be in the College Football Playoff.
You know, I think this is this is great for
college football, it's great for the ACC. For so many
teams to still have a chance doesn't mean I think
the the playoff should expand any further than what it is.
That might be a topic for another day. And I
definitely not in favor. And that brings it to one
more point. I'm definitely still not in favor of AQ bids,
you know, at max, I think when all is said
and done, we'll see how it turns out. But you
know this, this does not mean the ACC deserves you know,
four AQ bids or anything like that. You know, that's
proposal Big Ten. You know, they keep just throwing things
out there. And seeing if they're stick. I think one
of them, the last one was four four and four
and they had their four AQ bids. You know where
they kept pushing and I mean, you look at the
Big Ten this year and you know Indiana, Ohio State
for sure, Oregon. Yeah, at this point, but if they
take a second loss, I mean, that's not necessarily a
playoff team. I mean you look at their resume. They
have a I would say not very high quality win,
which is their best one at Penn State after we've
seen them, and then they lost it home to Indiana,
So you know, all of this AQ bid, I mean,
I'm in favor just leaving it as it is, but
we'll never go back to the bowl system. And I
think again, the season's proving it out. I'd like to
see it stay the same.
Speaker 3: Ethan one question before we go. Yes, I feel that
ACC men's basketball is going to be much better than
it was last year. And I don't want to quite
say this yet, but I feel that we're getting close
to a point where if you get a five hundred
record in conference, you're going to be pretty much in
the picture for an NCAA bid. I feel like we're
getting back to that level. And I say that, I
mean everybody knew that. I think everybody knew at the
start of the season that Louibll, you know, Virginia and
Duke would be pretty good. But it's these latter two, right,
Virginia and Virginia Tech the CommonWell schools are getting better
right here in this state and that and that had
to happen for ACC basketball to get better. I think
we knew that the Carolina schools, we knew NC State
would get. We knew North Carolina probably begin we do
do it would be good. But you had to have
had had to have other schools that part of part
of that package to be better. The fact that Virginia
Tech actually has a lottery pick on its team is
nothing sort of remarkable for me. Are we are we
on the same page because I'm feeling as I'm feeling
a sort of enthusiasm. I haven't.
Speaker 4: No, I certainly think you're onto something. Again. The ACC
last year had just four teams in the tournament. That's pathetic.
And you know, I think the league office has done
as much as they can with the eighteen game schedule
and to encourage you know, higher, higher profile non conference
games that's exactly what Louisville has done this year. I mean, guys,
we play our the team up the road on November eleventh,
We've got a neutral psyche game with Cincinnati. It's in Cincinnati,
been not on their home floor. In February we play
Baylor at a neutral site and Dicky's Arena. It's in
Fort Worth, I believe. And then of course we've got Arkansas, Tennessee,
Indiana as well Memphis. So Louisville certainly on their side,
is scheduling much tougher. And then too, I do think Miami,
certainly Virginia. I really like the coaching high that they
made there as well. And I think you're gonna have
teams on the fringe like like a Virginia Tech. They
can make some noise. I think we're going to be
closer to that. I wouldn't be stunned off the ACC
got seven or eight teams in the Big Dance this year.
Speaker 3: Amen. Amen, that's a good note to close Ethan.
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Speaker 4: Facts sands like I'm playing guys. I appreciate it as well.
You'll have a good week.
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