Speaker 1: Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. If you don't
Speaker 1: make mistakes, you won't learn. With your host, Corey Winfield.
Speaker 2: You know there was a reason why that didn't work out,
Speaker 2: and you can look back at it and go, yep,
Speaker 2: I'm glad that didn't work out how I wanted it,
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't have been fourrible. Got your ass. It
Speaker 2: is the eighteenth of February twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: My name's Corey Winfield.
Speaker 3: My name's Corey Smolker.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we just missed two seventeen. I wouldn't say
Speaker 2: missed it. Kind of busy, but yeah, I was wanting
Speaker 2: to do one yesterday. But hey, we're here doing it
Speaker 2: today and I have an idea. We're going to get
Speaker 2: to that in just a second and involve some AI today.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, it should be fun. It will be fun.
Speaker 3: Actually, we're going to make this fun.
Speaker 1: It will be.
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to talk about Recovery Stories Message
Speaker 2: of Hope, Part A, which is coming up tomorrow Grand
Speaker 2: Trevis's Event Center in Trever's City, Michigan.
Speaker 1: So if you're around Trever City.
Speaker 2: Michigan, you want to come an cool doors open at
Speaker 2: four thirty, food starts at five and pizza tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and pizza, pizza and caesar salad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it'll be good.
Speaker 2: And we were going to do pizza at the very
Speaker 2: beginning because that was my favorite meal of all time.
Speaker 2: And we were like, no, let's do let's work harder,
Speaker 2: let's make spaghetti, let's make salad, let's do all this ourselves.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what we were thinking, but.
Speaker 4: Well, it sounds easier like a spaghetti dinner. It sounds
Speaker 4: easier than realizing what work really goes into it.
Speaker 3: We realized that, yeah.
Speaker 2: It was hard, and yeah, we have funding you know
Speaker 2: to do that with the pay two funds, So like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's do that and let's put on a nice meal
Speaker 2: for the recovery community. And that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: And the recovery community in Trever's City is so amazing.
Speaker 2: They come out and they support each other so well,
Speaker 2: like you could do anything and they would they would
Speaker 2: support you, you know, because they support each other. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing. People are like, oh, two seventies. I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 2: this is two seventeen. This is the recovery community doing it,
Speaker 2: you know, Like we applied for the funding and we
Speaker 2: call the places and get the food there. But like, no,
Speaker 2: it's it's the recovery community coming together. And that's what
Speaker 2: makes it so cool around here in this area about it.
Speaker 4: And it is nice to see like all aspects of
Speaker 4: the recoveries groups and people coming together one night and
Speaker 4: listening to different speakers from the different multiple pathways and
Speaker 4: then you know, having some fun and intergrading and connecting
Speaker 4: along and then you know, Dakowski guys being there and
Speaker 4: seeing that this is this is what it is and
Speaker 4: how you connect and yeah, network.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it's about breaking a bottle. This way
Speaker 2: it works meets you around the back, like, hey, you
Speaker 2: don't drink anywhere. What do you know that bottle now?
Speaker 2: But you're right, you know, and the people come in too,
Speaker 2: because it's not about it's whatever whatever pathway can get
Speaker 2: you there. Man.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it.
Speaker 2: And again I've said a billion times podcasting, I would
Speaker 2: say that that was one of the tools I used
Speaker 2: talking about my.
Speaker 1: Recovery every day and or every other day, four days
Speaker 1: a week. It was a lot. But the speakers tomorrow
Speaker 1: are gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2: Sally S, you know, John g and Percy and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be fun, put together a little fun promo.
Speaker 1: But see, I'm not a good voice guy.
Speaker 3: Oh I think it is good.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I don't I don't have.
Speaker 2: That like Saturday that the trucks, you know, like Monster
Speaker 2: trus Ra and I guess not that I was trying
Speaker 2: for that, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it was good your promo video and like
Speaker 4: your radio voice, it's clear, it's understandable.
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe just because it doesn't sound like me,
Speaker 2: because it's like I'm doing an announcer guy, you know,
Speaker 2: reading a commercial. You know, we're just like I'm talking
Speaker 2: with you right now. It's totally different voice than if
Speaker 2: I was just going to be.
Speaker 4: Like no, But I think it sounds good when you
Speaker 4: do it, and you know, your other little videos and
Speaker 4: when you talk like it's just clear and crisp and understandable.
Speaker 4: I mean me, you know, when I talk, it's just unpredictable.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. I'm not even going to hit.
Speaker 3: The drop, so we don't need to. We just we know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then with the video I put out on Facebook,
Speaker 2: I uploaded it through Facebook because if you don't they
Speaker 2: won't show with anybody. So I did that, and I
Speaker 2: did the edited version because I showed it to you
Speaker 2: and Marty, and you guys are both like whoa like
Speaker 2: first like oh, that's cool, and then I let it
Speaker 2: go keep playing the extended version, and Marny's reaction went
Speaker 2: from like oh my god, that's great to like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's okay.
Speaker 4: I think because she pa she had a pot I
Speaker 4: think I think you did pause too long.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, because you think it's.
Speaker 2: Over and then it's not, and then you're hit with
Speaker 2: like something that something to say is creepy. But I
Speaker 2: thought it was like cinematics, so I was like all.
Speaker 3: Right, or like suspenseal, like oh okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was like showing one of the signs
Speaker 2: that I actually made for. I think I made it
Speaker 2: for Justin at one point when he was here, and
Speaker 2: it was about it's about your goals and are you
Speaker 2: doing enough to reach your goals or are you doing
Speaker 2: enough just to get by? Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I always had to make sure put.
Speaker 1: That by his office door, and I told him that's
Speaker 1: for you, Justin. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think one time I had to set it on
Speaker 3: his desk.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, sometimes it's a little well that's not
Speaker 2: a gentle reminder, but yeah, sometimes you just need it.
Speaker 2: But like, but that's true and sometimes you need to
Speaker 2: hear that, and so yeah, I thought it was cool
Speaker 2: and I just was filming it. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: this is kind of cool to add to the end
Speaker 2: a little creepy sound, and I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: So that one is available you can go to if
Speaker 2: you want to jump on our YouTube channel, you can
Speaker 2: see it there, go to the Recovery Story's.
Speaker 1: Channel and it's on that.
Speaker 2: But what I want to do now though, is I
Speaker 2: thought it would be wonderful. I was updating my page
Speaker 2: at two seventeen recovery dot com. Still waiting for you
Speaker 2: and Marnie to give me those photos so I can
Speaker 2: update your guys is oh yeah, yeah, it's been a
Speaker 2: couple of months, not weeks, but I don't know. So
Speaker 2: I updated my page. It looks way better. Check it
Speaker 2: out to seventeen recovery dot com. Corey with E check
Speaker 2: out my page and then uh, I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: write this bio to it doesn't look stupid. And I
Speaker 2: realized something that reading my bio, it's just and you've
Speaker 2: probably already gone through this, ugh, Like I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was there, I did that, done that, But like
Speaker 2: it's so back in the past that I want to
Speaker 2: more highlight this is what I'm doing now or these
Speaker 2: are my dreams today, you know. Like and I think
Speaker 2: that's why I was getting kind of taken back by
Speaker 2: the bio because I was like, what what am I
Speaker 2: supposed to write on here if I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be stuck? So I kind of broke it up into
Speaker 2: three sections of like, hey, this is this is what
Speaker 2: I'm doing kind of working on and this is what
Speaker 2: got us there kind of thing. But then I was like, man,
Speaker 2: what if I had like question answers. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: if I should just had somebody answer me or ask
Speaker 2: me some questions? And I thought what about using AI?
Speaker 2: So I jumped on the claud Ai and I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: ask me some questions. It could be about anything, it
Speaker 2: could be about recovery, it could be about whatever. And
Speaker 2: it was like, all right, cool, like your idea, so
Speaker 2: throughout ten questions and so I want.
Speaker 3: You to ask you these questions.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it said that I should like really draw
Speaker 2: it out, like hey, I got these questions and make
Speaker 2: it like a week long like thing. But I don't
Speaker 2: know when we're going to do a podcast again, so
Speaker 2: I think we should just run through some of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so these are ten questions from AI.
Speaker 3: Did you already study these for your No?
Speaker 2: I looked at the first one. I can't remember. It
Speaker 2: was about a license plate or something. Maybe not okay, okay?
Speaker 4: Question one? All right, what's the one thing people misunderstand
Speaker 4: most about being in recovery?
Speaker 1: That you can't have fun anymore?
Speaker 3: Yeah? That was me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, if I can't drink, gonna I'm gonna watch football?
Speaker 2: How am I gonna do longer? How'm gonna do anything?
Speaker 2: How am I gonna go to a concert? But I
Speaker 2: have to smoke weed on the way. I gotta get drunk.
Speaker 1: On the way.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you know those beers are like fifteen bucks.
Speaker 2: We gotta like hit it before, Like, how would I
Speaker 2: do that without drinking?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: But then you realize that it's way more fun without drinking,
Speaker 2: way cheaper. I think it's just yeah, all across the board.
Speaker 3: Yes, someone told me I had to redescribe my definition
Speaker 3: of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then think about, wait, when's the last time
Speaker 2: I had fun when I was drinking.
Speaker 3: When did I remember having that fun?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: Question two, you started a podcast from a sober house.
Speaker 4: What did you know then that you didn't know you knew?
Speaker 1: What did I know then that I didn't? Wait?
Speaker 4: What what did you know then that you didn't.
Speaker 3: Know you knew?
Speaker 1: What did I know then that I didn't know I knew? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's saying, hey, I had like them hard questions,
Speaker 2: So they want to know what I knew then that
Speaker 2: I knew that. Maybe I thought I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Right. Like looking back, I'm like.
Speaker 3: All right, you didn't know that you knew?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So like looking back at it, you knew it,
Speaker 4: but then you didn't think you knew it.
Speaker 2: With starting the podcast, I would say that my co
Speaker 2: hosts would change over the years, but I would still
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 4: I think also, too, I don't think you realized how
Speaker 4: much of an I think you knew it was an
Speaker 4: outlet for you. But I think now you really appre
Speaker 4: appreciate that that was your outlet for you.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, like.
Speaker 4: You are, you knew it then, but I don't think
Speaker 4: you knew it as well as now when you like
Speaker 4: you look back at it and.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah, I would say that is correct. Good,
Speaker 2: thanks for answering the quest. No, but that is that's yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean because that's what I hear from, like in
Speaker 4: our different conversations and like when you talk to people
Speaker 4: and stuff. And then also too, we just been you know,
Speaker 4: running the wheels on the cart ear with three wheels,
Speaker 4: and so we're not doing the podcast as much. And
Speaker 4: how much I think you realize you miss maybe some
Speaker 4: of that outlet, Yeah I do, okay. Number three all right,
Speaker 4: I'm excited to hear this one. If two seventeen Recovery
Speaker 4: had a tombstone, what would it say?
Speaker 2: I would just hope I had like a little date
Speaker 2: like born twenty nineteen dash and then just.
Speaker 3: Nothing had fun and recovery bad mother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know just the date.
Speaker 3: I guess, just the date. What does a bad day
Speaker 3: look like for you now?
Speaker 4: And how is it different from a bad day an
Speaker 4: active addiction.
Speaker 1: I would say a bad day.
Speaker 2: Is I get behind a school bus on the way
Speaker 2: and I don't know, like sober people problems. This is
Speaker 2: something I say all the time to people, you know,
Speaker 2: like is even when I'm taking my car into the
Speaker 2: shop or we're doing something else. You know, it's just like, ah,
Speaker 2: that's something that's gone my way. And I go, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I know that I'm complaining about this, but
Speaker 2: this is still way better than the life I used
Speaker 2: to have. And you know, these are sober people problems
Speaker 2: what we call, you know, it's nice to have those.
Speaker 1: The bad day on the other end of it.
Speaker 2: And oh, I was just talking to my friend John
Speaker 2: and I was complaining to him about this software that
Speaker 2: I'm using called fade in. And I used to love
Speaker 2: the software. It's like eighty bucks. It was great, and
Speaker 2: he used it to write films and scripts and stuff. Well,
Speaker 2: I upgraded it and now it doesn't work. So I'm
Speaker 2: like I on the phone with John and I'm mentioning
Speaker 2: him about it, and He's just like, what are you
Speaker 2: even talking about? And I'm like, I know, dude, these
Speaker 2: are so people problems. I remember a day when I
Speaker 2: was I was like, I don't know when my electro
Speaker 2: is going to get turned back on, and I don't
Speaker 2: think I have the gas to drive to my mom's
Speaker 2: house to ask her because she want to answer the phone. Great,
Speaker 2: this is wonderful, Like those are the problems I had
Speaker 2: before and so, yeah, going to complain about my car
Speaker 2: not getting as clean as it was supposed to do,
Speaker 2: or I don't know, whatever you wanted to complain about,
Speaker 2: you know, like this red light's taking too long.
Speaker 4: That's just patience, all right. Number five? You're a filmmaker,
Speaker 4: a broadcaster, a nonprofit under in, a podcaster?
Speaker 3: Which one are you? When nobody is watching?
Speaker 2: I would say I'm stressed out? The guy that's trying
Speaker 2: to play doctor, but not the good kind, the guy
Speaker 2: that's kind of the guy that's trying to.
Speaker 1: Figure out what's going on with my body and what
Speaker 1: is really going on? And how can I just pull
Speaker 1: my stuff together?
Speaker 4: What's a story from northern Michigan that the world needs
Speaker 4: to hear but hasn't.
Speaker 2: It's not a bear trap. I don't know which way
Speaker 2: do you want to go with it? You know, do
Speaker 2: you want to go like what people would be like
Speaker 2: upset if they knew about or like.
Speaker 1: A good story.
Speaker 2: Of like a guy who's you know, putting in the
Speaker 2: work and getting things done, because Kim Hopkins Walker is
Speaker 2: a great.
Speaker 1: Story of that. A very own cheers.
Speaker 2: You know, somebody who's come through left treatment, went back home.
Speaker 2: Because you're going to do it whatever, and then realized, Nope,
Speaker 2: I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Came back.
Speaker 2: You know, some would say with egg on your face,
Speaker 2: you know like that, it's harder to get back up
Speaker 2: the second and third time. Sometimes, you know, in the
Speaker 2: fourth and fifth it's harder. Every time it gets harder.
Speaker 2: It's not easier just because you know the ropes. It's harder.
Speaker 2: So come back and then do it and in the
Speaker 2: face and do recovery. So we're living in a place
Speaker 2: that you don't even know like and then to get
Speaker 2: your own play. I mean, I don't know, she's she's
Speaker 2: a success story.
Speaker 1: I would say, so there you go that story, then
Speaker 1: keep it positive. I like it.
Speaker 4: If you could go back and sit with yourself in
Speaker 4: the hospital bed in January of twenty and fifteen, what
Speaker 4: do you say.
Speaker 2: I'll probably just cry like you just even thinking about it, it's
Speaker 2: making me cheer up a little bit.
Speaker 3: What would you say to yourself?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know. I don't know. Just thinking
Speaker 1: about it makes me tear up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think i'd tell as if anything, glad
Speaker 2: we weren't roaming video on that one.
Speaker 1: Jeez, that's right.
Speaker 4: What do you believe about God that you couldn't have
Speaker 4: said out loud five years ago, five years ago, Man,
Speaker 4: these are some deep they just get deep AI.
Speaker 1: What the hell? Man? I wish I had fans. They
Speaker 1: could write me letters.
Speaker 2: Ask me questions, But you gotta use AI when you
Speaker 2: don't read the question what do.
Speaker 3: You believe about God? That you couldn't have said out
Speaker 3: loud five years ago?
Speaker 2: I guess that your relationship with God can can get better.
Speaker 2: You know, like when you have like two years clean
Speaker 2: and you're like, man, things are going great, and people like, oh,
Speaker 2: it gets better and you're like okay, and then two
Speaker 2: years later it gets better and you're like, oh my God,
Speaker 2: this good.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like that, yeah, or it's like even
Speaker 4: in the beginning, right, you don't it's almost like this,
Speaker 4: I had this like conformed thing about God and like
Speaker 4: you just don't never know where you can talk about
Speaker 4: it or what it is. And you know now today
Speaker 4: like to I'm free out loud to say that I
Speaker 4: believe in God or my my own power of my
Speaker 4: understanding and what He does for me. But I mean
Speaker 4: for me if you would ask me this almost eleven
Speaker 4: years ago, I would sometimes question if.
Speaker 3: God had the best interest for me? All right?
Speaker 4: Number nine, what's the most dangerous lie the recovery industry
Speaker 4: tells people.
Speaker 1: Boxing's not addictive, can get high on it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true? Okay.
Speaker 4: Number ten, Claude AI is asking you these questions. Does
Speaker 4: that feel strange and what does it say about where
Speaker 4: we are headed?
Speaker 2: Well, no, it doesn't feel strange because I asked it
Speaker 2: to and it means that I don't have any fans.
Speaker 1: I guess I have a couple of friends, but I
Speaker 1: guess fans.
Speaker 4: I mean, you never gave me an assignment. I've come
Speaker 4: up with some questions. Ask you.
Speaker 1: You're busy right now?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think this is cool, though I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of deep in some spots. But
Speaker 3: that's where I mean. That's why we're here though, right
Speaker 3: is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Anyways, I went from hey, this will be a fun
Speaker 2: little thing to like, I'm crying and tear up stupid.
Speaker 1: I'll never do that again. I'm glad we didn't video
Speaker 1: tape for that. That's horrible.
Speaker 3: Glad this wasn't my idea.
Speaker 4: Don't share this one stop, but please do share it
Speaker 4: because Recovery Stories Message of pop Part eight is tomorrow
Speaker 4: and we would love to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I did get an email from a guy, not
Speaker 2: that he's a fan, but it was on Facebook to
Speaker 2: two seventeen and he was talking about recovery stories and
Speaker 2: he was like, hey, can I share it. I was like, no, Like,
Speaker 2: we're pretty structured on time and how we do it
Speaker 2: and we got to get out of there by a
Speaker 2: certain time, you know, And I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: we we can kick it and I can talk to you,
Speaker 2: get to know your story, you know, like you can't
Speaker 2: just throw people on stage.
Speaker 1: Sure, buddy, get up there, you know, and they start
Speaker 1: selling knife or something.
Speaker 2: Hey, for nine ninety nine, you're gonna wait, what what's
Speaker 2: happening right now?
Speaker 1: My luck, yes, that would happened.
Speaker 2: But but no, So that was kind of cool that,
Speaker 2: you know, he said his brother shared it with them,
Speaker 2: I believe, and it's like, all right, cool, Like that's
Speaker 2: that's awesome, you know.
Speaker 4: So what's awesome is that means that's that it the
Speaker 4: word is getting passed around or shared in the community.
Speaker 4: And also or maybe even they've seen the flyers somewhere
Speaker 4: up you know, and so that's that's awesome. That means
Speaker 4: words getting out there, and I think also too, you know,
Speaker 4: more people as I hear when people come in, what
Speaker 4: are you doing your.
Speaker 3: Next recovery stories? You know, and.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's hard to remember who all says that to
Speaker 4: make sure either flyers they get the memo.
Speaker 2: And then every time we're like, we're going to email
Speaker 2: everybody next time, uh huh, and we don't.
Speaker 3: Sorry, we're trying the best.
Speaker 1: One day we're going to spam people. I mean one day,
Speaker 1: We're going to do.
Speaker 2: It one day, one day, one day, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be real good too. Trust me, when we send
Speaker 2: an email, it'll be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will one day. Just keep waiting.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and hopefully this was someone entertaining and yeah,
Speaker 2: well we'll recap recovery stories nictually get into some good
Speaker 2: recovery talk because there's a a lot of stuff going
Speaker 2: on right now in all of our lives really and
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of moving parts. But maybe we'll
Speaker 2: do an episode from the road coming up in a
Speaker 2: week or so, but that'd be cool. Yeah, So then
Speaker 2: check out to seventeen recovery dot com and our YouTube
Speaker 2: channel for updates.
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