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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Are get off our show, idiot, the kids are playing

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<v Speaker 3>or turn off.

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<v Speaker 1>The countries are screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 1>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's one of those days where I can say that

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<v Speaker 2>we've got, you know, a ton to get into. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do we start? And sometimes I say that and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a reach to try to keep

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<v Speaker 2>you here with us for three consecutive hours because there's

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<v Speaker 2>just so many interesting things that we need to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to discuss, and you know we're all dying

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it today. I really mean it when

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<v Speaker 2>I say it, because it's a heck of a Monday

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<v Speaker 2>here Columbus Day. Shout out to those who celebrate, and

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<v Speaker 2>we got a lot to discuss. I mean, Louisville football

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<v Speaker 2>bounces back in a game where you just needed to win,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did exactly that. And I really don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>much different about them as I did last week or

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<v Speaker 2>the week before, because it's not like I've watched this

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<v Speaker 2>team from a personnel standpoint and felt like, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're just not any good. I mean, technically, when you

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<v Speaker 2>lose two straight games, even though it's against good teams,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're evaluated on winning and losing, and they were losing.

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<v Speaker 2>They were making losing plays that really impacted the ultimate result,

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<v Speaker 2>which again is winning or losing a game. So they

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<v Speaker 2>still made I think a lot of crucial mistakes against Virginia,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean not as much late in the game, and

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<v Speaker 2>certainly they made the plays necessary to hold on and win.

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<v Speaker 2>But they also played Virginia, who is better that I

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<v Speaker 2>think anybody really thought they were going to be this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But still they're not SMU, They're not a Notre dame

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<v Speaker 2>at their place. So the ultimate goal here was to

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<v Speaker 2>just avoid a three game losing streak as you're set

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<v Speaker 2>to host Miami in what is easily the biggest game

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<v Speaker 2>for you on your home schedule this year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot of competition as far as home

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<v Speaker 2>games this year for Louisville, but this one is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest one, and I wish that things were a little

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<v Speaker 2>different for Louisville, but hey, having this take place coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of a win is certainly better than coming off

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<v Speaker 2>of a loss, and the opportunities there. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>win here, I mean, it's not going to erase the

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<v Speaker 2>two losses you had earlier this year, but it could

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<v Speaker 2>put you back in a spot where you can look at,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess bigger picture potential goals and at least know that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we've proven with a win that we can go take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of a huge opportunity weeks later when we play Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>who knew it, but the team that really killed you

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<v Speaker 2>last year because that was your lone loss in acc

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<v Speaker 2>play and they stunk. Well, now they're undefeated and ranked

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure how good they are, but either way,

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<v Speaker 2>there's opportunity there. So it's a big I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a big It's a huge game, and I've never felt

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<v Speaker 2>like louisvill wouldn't be able to win this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a game because the opponent they're playing is just too good. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>with that said, maybe that ends up playing out to

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<v Speaker 2>be what happens. Maybe Louisville comes out and does play

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<v Speaker 2>their best game of the season, and they don't make

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<v Speaker 2>crucial mistakes, they don't hurt themselves, they're not sloppy. But

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<v Speaker 2>yet you just lost to Miami because Miami's better. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that may happen, and that would be that would be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, better than getting blown out right, But it'll

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<v Speaker 2>also make me even more angry to know that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you should have been able to burn one here. This

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<v Speaker 2>should have been the game that you burned, meaning damn,

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<v Speaker 2>you played really good against the team that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people think is really good, and you came up ashore.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not a loss that necessarily is going to

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<v Speaker 2>kill you. Well now, to kill you, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that is still holding out hope that you

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<v Speaker 2>could potentially find yourself in Charlotte, still you got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of work to do. It's insanely improbable at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I'm gonna get probably I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get it out of my system today and I probably shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, continue to emphasize all the things that

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<v Speaker 2>this team has done for the last you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>all season that just you know, are surprising and disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>as far as just you know, not making smart plays,

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<v Speaker 2>not being disciplined at times. And you know they won

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday and that was great, better than losing. And yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big week with this big opportunity. But still,

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<v Speaker 2>I just i'd be a liar to tell you right

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<v Speaker 2>now that I think they're gonna come out and be

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<v Speaker 2>a team that we haven't seen all year, which is

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<v Speaker 2>one that avoids critical mistakes and doesn't commit silly penalties.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll get it out of my system today and

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<v Speaker 2>by tomorrow i'll probably be you know, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>lie to you and say, hey, over in twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hours time, I'm now fully convinced louis is gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope that they do, but I just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't lie to myself, So why would

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<v Speaker 2>I lie to you and tell you that, Like, I

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<v Speaker 2>have great confidence that they're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>pull off what would be an upset. Now it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a huge upset. They're only at this I think right

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<v Speaker 2>now I can do a quick I know it opened

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<v Speaker 2>up at four or four and a half, as you

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<v Speaker 2>could expect Louisville underdogs against Miami, but I think now

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<v Speaker 2>it's down to three we double check here on first

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<v Speaker 2>one that comes up for me is DraftKings. So according

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<v Speaker 2>to the DraftKings right now, Louisville Miami, it is Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>plus four. So I mean that tells you that odds

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<v Speaker 2>makers think that this game is, you know, should be competitive,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hope that it is because it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a huge I mean, this is really the game that

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<v Speaker 2>could send you in a different direction at a high

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<v Speaker 2>rate of speed. Beating Virginia, it avoided you from going

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<v Speaker 2>I think, in the wrong direction at a high rate

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<v Speaker 2>of speed because I think everybody you know, collectively and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean fans and whatnot, people like me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this team, if they somehow messed around and

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<v Speaker 2>made another crucial mistake, laid, they don't get that Jamal

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<v Speaker 2>ray Johnson touchdown and they lose. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're humans, they know that they had At that point,

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<v Speaker 2>They're halfway through the year, and really at that point

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<v Speaker 2>everything's kind of shot. I mean, yeah, you can still think, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have six games left and we can

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<v Speaker 2>beat all these teams. Yeah, but like nobody's gonna believe

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<v Speaker 2>it if you don't at least start to show that

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<v Speaker 2>you're even close to getting there as far as a

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<v Speaker 2>team that plays winning football and takes advantage of opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>like the one that's coming up this week. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is huge. It's just it's huge because you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't lose. It's not because it meant a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not because it you know, I still think they

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<v Speaker 2>played relatively the same way they've played in previous weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly better, communication was better on defense. They moved run

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<v Speaker 2>English down to the sideline, and that clearly helped a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But you are at a point now where

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<v Speaker 2>I think, what do we have four or five straight

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<v Speaker 2>weeks or the opponent has known quite literally, here's what

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<v Speaker 2>we know. They're not good at. They're not good at

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<v Speaker 2>stopping quarterbacks. They can run, and sure enough, with everybody

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<v Speaker 2>being aware of that, teams can. Teams have still been

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<v Speaker 2>able to expose Louisville in that way. So like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's a potential fix they could implement, But

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<v Speaker 2>don't you feel like they would have already done that

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<v Speaker 2>if that was going to happen. I mean, Calandria, he

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<v Speaker 2>was the leading rusher on the ground. He had let's see,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four yards I mean that's I mean, that's not great.

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<v Speaker 2>So again they win twenty four to twenty and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably not talk much more about Virginia after, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the first hour and a half or so, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you move on now. You get a big opportunity. But

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest takeaway for me from a positive perspective is

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<v Speaker 2>that you avoided a three game losing streak, and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's something.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Coffee. That's me the company man, Mister John Alden

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<v Speaker 2>is alongside as we take you up until six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>So today is a federal holiday. I had to look

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<v Speaker 2>it up because usually on federal holidays we get the

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<v Speaker 2>option to take the day or work it and then

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<v Speaker 2>get a bonus vacation day. We call those comp days

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<v Speaker 2>around here. John and myself big fans of comp days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but we didn't get one today, which I would have

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<v Speaker 2>gladly taken one because I was clearly going to come

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<v Speaker 2>to work. But I just looked it up on the

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Commerce dot gov. It is the it

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<v Speaker 2>is it mentions all the holidays that are federal government

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<v Speaker 2>holidays where they recognize them, and there's eleven of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure this is the only one we don't get.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't get a comp day. New Year's of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is a holiday. Martin Luther King Day, President's Day, Memorial Day,

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<v Speaker 2>Juneteenth Independence Day, that's fourth of July, Labor Day, Columbus Day,

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<v Speaker 2>which is today, Veterans Day will be next month.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I don't think I don't think we get Veterans

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<v Speaker 3>Day either. You sure, I'm almost possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Then maybe it's those two because all the other ones

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<v Speaker 2>I know we've gotten.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like there's not one in November that

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<v Speaker 2>we get the option because I feel like by the

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<v Speaker 2>time we hit all But really, it seems like September

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<v Speaker 2>is usually the day, Like September is when we know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no more holidays we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Get until we get to think giving. That's kind of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, uh, you know, there was no school today,

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<v Speaker 2>at least there wasn't in Bullet County where my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>goes to school. My wife, she works for a bank

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<v Speaker 2>credit union, so she didn't work today. So actually ended

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<v Speaker 2>up having a you know, and this is just probably

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<v Speaker 2>not something I should have been on my radio show

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<v Speaker 2>to make myself and my wife even looks stupid, which

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<v Speaker 2>you know, probably shouldn't do that, But here I am

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to do it. We were at my mom's

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<v Speaker 2>the family and my mom, who you know, she's not

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<v Speaker 2>had anybody in the school system since I graduated, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was in two thousand and six. But she was

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<v Speaker 2>aware that the holiday meant that we didn't have school,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like, well, I guess we would have

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<v Speaker 2>woke up today. My wife would have probably gone to work.

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<v Speaker 2>I probably would have gotten the kids ready, taken tried

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<v Speaker 2>to take I mean, I would have showed up at school,

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<v Speaker 2>only for you know it to realize it was closed.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was kind of like a last minute surprise

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<v Speaker 2>that the kids and my wife had a day off.

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<v Speaker 2>So we ended up going to the zoo earlier today.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it was it was clearly what everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was fun. But it was cold outside and it made

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<v Speaker 2>me very happy today. There are many people I am

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<v Speaker 2>sure that walked outside and it made them sad because

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<v Speaker 2>like they realized, oh, like yeah, the warm weather, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it may get warmer later, the sun may come out,

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<v Speaker 2>but like today, I think in this region Kentucky and

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<v Speaker 2>you were hit with a brisk, cool temperature that made

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<v Speaker 2>it quite clear that your summer days are over.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, we haven't felt this since probably late March

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<v Speaker 3>early April.

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<v Speaker 2>We absolutely because it wasn't just like you know, kind

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<v Speaker 2>sixty or fifty nine. Yeah, So in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of feels like we're starting the fall right now,

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<v Speaker 2>which hasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Been halfway through the football season, at least college football

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<v Speaker 3>season that is ye back half usually filled with colder

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<v Speaker 3>weather or not too far from basketball now.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim Pom came out last.

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<v Speaker 2>Night, that's right, kim Pom came out the preseason. Ap

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<v Speaker 2>Pole came out earlier this afternoon. So basketball season is

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's not here if you're somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>real game. But like all the things that lead up

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<v Speaker 2>Louisll is playing an exhibition game, so I mean we're here, folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow is the loisll of Basketball media Day, so basketball

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<v Speaker 2>season will be here soon, and that's exciting, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm choosing to go into the current, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming season, the debut season for Pat Kelsey, and yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be expectation. I'm not just gonna say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're better than they were under Kenny Payne, then hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing okay. But like I also am going to

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<v Speaker 2>probably find myself enjoying things that I used to take

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<v Speaker 2>for granted. And that's like, you know, beating your exhibition opponents.

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville didn't have a winning record against exhibition opponents in

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<v Speaker 2>the Kenny Payne era. Clearly that's not gonna happen with

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Key, at least I hope it doesn't. But I

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<v Speaker 2>am I'm kind of usually I can, I can, I

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<v Speaker 2>can get a feel for myself as far as how

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<v Speaker 2>I would react to this happening or that happening, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's certain things that you really don't know until it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And I kind of feel like with louisvill basketball this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to be me because it's just unusual to

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<v Speaker 2>be in this situation where you're coming off of two,

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<v Speaker 2>really three consecutive seasons of just misery, and yet now

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<v Speaker 2>you have a team that one is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more fun to watch. They're clearly going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot better, but you know how much better

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<v Speaker 2>that remains to be seen. And I'm okay with just

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of like one thing you hear me say

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<v Speaker 2>all the time, especially in football season, because you only

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<v Speaker 2>get twelve games. So when I play two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I say, I like, I'm out there playing.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Louisville, my team that I love and care about,

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<v Speaker 2>when they play two of them against teams that nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>heard of, to me, that's a waste and I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I've been robbed, like I didn't even get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to learn if we play, like, did we do

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<v Speaker 2>anything of note today?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>We won buy a lot of points, but that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to do whenever you're playing those kind of teams,

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<v Speaker 2>so you won't really Like, I'm not sure how much

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna learn about Louisvill when they play some of

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<v Speaker 2>these games against whoever. But I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna, you know, probably find myself more excited

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<v Speaker 2>about it than I probably should be. And it's because

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<v Speaker 2>of the recent trauma that we've gone through as fans

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, the previous you know regime and even

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<v Speaker 2>the end of you know, the mac era and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're also gonna be huge op Like Louisville is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna play Tennessee in Pat Kelsey's second career game as

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<v Speaker 2>the coach here, they're preseason number twelve in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>so like it's not gonna be all cupcakes, it's there's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be. Really, there's not a stretch of play for

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville this year in basketball where you go like two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half three weeks where you play nobody, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, sprinkled in, there's gonna be again. Tennessee's your

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<v Speaker 2>second game. Before long, you're gonna be in the Bahamas

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<v Speaker 2>in the Battle for Atlantis, which is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a very very competitive and challenging experience for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they come back, they get Ole Miss, another team

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<v Speaker 2>that's in the preseason top twenty five. When they get

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<v Speaker 2>to December, they play Duke in Kentucky in that month

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, I guess some other mid major kind

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<v Speaker 2>of programs. So hoop seasons here in the ap pole

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<v Speaker 2>coming out again. It's the preseason poll. You quickly forget

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<v Speaker 2>about it once you get a few weeks in and

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<v Speaker 2>you see you know, teams moving around. But I will

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<v Speaker 2>say it's always one of the reminders for me that

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<v Speaker 2>it's here, and that's exciting. So one thing we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>brought up here in the first fifteen minutes of the

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<v Speaker 2>show is what happened in Lexington this weekend. Patino did

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<v Speaker 2>what I thought he was going to do once we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking through it last week John about how he

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<v Speaker 2>had confirmed his plans to go to Lexington for the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky game. I mean, it made too much sense for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I started, I think it was live on the air,

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<v Speaker 2>like five o'clock hour. We were talking about it on

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<v Speaker 2>like Wednesday, and I'm thinking to myself, Yeah, there's no scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Lexington and he's not with Mark Polpe at

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<v Speaker 2>Blue Blue Madness, and he was, and he was wearing

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<v Speaker 2>his Kentucky blue. He got a big ovation from the crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>He cried, he took a jab at Louisville. He went

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<v Speaker 2>on the radio with Matt Jones. Which of all things

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<v Speaker 2>that took place this weekend, I'm not kidding you, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I still cannot believe happened. Can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe it at all. Find myself thinking about it every

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<v Speaker 2>now and then, and I'm thinking, no way that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and it did. Hey, it's Rick's choice, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do that. I'm you know, I'm friends

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<v Speaker 2>with Matt. I don't mean that made Matt look great.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Matt with KSR and obviously others that have

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<v Speaker 2>worked and helped KSR become what it is today is

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<v Speaker 2>super successful media entity, a rare media entity that I

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<v Speaker 2>really can't even think of a comparison, just because Kentucky fans.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a billion of them, it seems, across the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt is big blue Jesus to them. So one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that really helped them kind of explode

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<v Speaker 2>and gave him, I think a few of their biggest booms.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning the KSR world was making fun of Rupertino. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Rick gave him plenty of content and material. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you kidd me. Karen Seifer that whole thing, the Katina

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<v Speaker 2>pal stuff. I mean, like, you know, it wasn't as

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<v Speaker 2>if they had to go work for it, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was things. It was things that happened, and they took

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of it and made a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hilarious content in the eyes of their fans. But like

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<v Speaker 2>they built a huge part of what they have now

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<v Speaker 2>on making fun of Rick Patino in like a personal way.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet he goes back to Lexington and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't care, he doesn't know, and then he went

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<v Speaker 2>on and I haven't heard any of it and I

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<v Speaker 2>probably won't listen to it, but like that was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge win. It was a dub for the KSR crew.

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<v Speaker 2>And what Rick got out of it, I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, we all knew it was going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen someday, and again he warned us. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>knew last week he was going to be going to

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<v Speaker 2>the football game. But then to see him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>out there crying, like the visual really did kind of

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<v Speaker 2>take me back a little bit. Not because I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>heartbroken and I went and cried myself to sleep on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday when I saw it wasn't anything like that because

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<v Speaker 2>I've always known that Rick loved Kentucky more than he

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<v Speaker 2>loved Louisville. I always knew everybody know, and Rick Patino

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even really hide it from us when he was here.

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<v Speaker 2>That the worst mistake he made, and I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't word it that way, but like, yeah, if he

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<v Speaker 2>could go back, he would have never left Kentucky. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody, even if you're a Louisville fan,

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<v Speaker 2>would would say that that's the wrong thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what he could have built and what could have

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<v Speaker 2>happened for him had he never left. So like we

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<v Speaker 2>knew that, but then to see it play out, clearly

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fans bothered by it. And here I

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<v Speaker 2>want to defend the younger fan base. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>say younger, I don't mean like little kids. But this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing with Rick has reminded me that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>that young anymore. Like there are people who are probably

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm thirty six. You could be thirty one,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two years old, and your only memory and you're

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<v Speaker 2>only not your only knowledge of Louisville basketball until it ended,

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<v Speaker 2>was Rick Betino, meaning like until he left that it's

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<v Speaker 2>all you knew it. So like you knew he coached Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't. You didn't experience that, you didn't watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't you didn't understand. I was a young kid

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<v Speaker 2>when Rick was there, but I knew how good they were.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew he was a rock star. Like, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably different than a lot of people because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with this since since I can remember. Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>something I mean, I didn't I wasn't old enough to

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<v Speaker 2>watch Griff and those guys in the eighties, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like my religion as a kid, Like I knew

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<v Speaker 2>all about that era, and you know it because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm I'm a lunatic. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>act like I'm better than anybody, but like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something I've been obsessed with my whole life, Louisville basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>So even because I had that experience as a kid

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of know that, hey, yeah, he's our guy

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<v Speaker 2>now and he's more grateful for him because he was

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<v Speaker 2>a hell of a coacher for a long time. He

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<v Speaker 2>brought a lot of scandal and clearly Louisville still dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with that as far as just the stain and the

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassment of what went on when he was leading the program. However,

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<v Speaker 2>I also knew that like Kentucky had him first, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was very successful there and he loved his time there.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, like I can, I can. I can

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<v Speaker 2>understand it, even though it's like it's not something I love.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. If you're somebody that didn't experience it

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<v Speaker 2>because you're a little bit younger, or you're a lot younger,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet it broke your heart to see ri Patina

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<v Speaker 2>wearing UK blue, I mean it like I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I tried my best this weekend to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how I was going to discuss this, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to act as if like who gives a damn

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<v Speaker 2>what Rick does? Because at this point you should have

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<v Speaker 2>that mindset, but it's not easy to do. Let's put

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<v Speaker 2>it this way. If you are somebody that is the

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<v Speaker 2>younger generation, you know, even younger than me, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I say even younger, mean like I'm super young.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only really great moments that you know of

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville basketball are with him, and now he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making it quite clear that his allegiance lies with blue

418
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<v Speaker 2>and not red, and it really isn't that big of

419
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<v Speaker 2>a shocker if you knew the true history of everything.

420
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<v Speaker 2>And I think also again, I think experiencing it made

421
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<v Speaker 2>a difference for me. Like I remember whenever I was

422
00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:58.440
<v Speaker 2>in the car with my dad going to basketball practice,

423
00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:00.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever year it was that Rick got the job, like

424
00:20:00.920 --> 00:20:03.119
<v Speaker 2>two thousand, two thousand and one, whatever it was, and

425
00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:06.279
<v Speaker 2>I remember listening to has I mean, I wasn't listening

426
00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:08.799
<v Speaker 2>to it who my dad was. And I remember, you know,

427
00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.200
<v Speaker 2>him telling me about it a couple days beforehand, like

428
00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.240
<v Speaker 2>they might be hiring Ripertino. And then I guess that

429
00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:14.759
<v Speaker 2>day when we were in the car going to practice,

430
00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been the day where like

431
00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:17.759
<v Speaker 2>there was live coverage of it happening, like he's here,

432
00:20:17.799 --> 00:20:19.599
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be the coach. And I remember asking my

433
00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.160
<v Speaker 2>dad like this is good, Like how do we feel

434
00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:24.160
<v Speaker 2>about this because I knew this guy used to coach Kentucky,

435
00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.160
<v Speaker 2>like this this is odd? Like what do we think Dad?

436
00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And he just, you know, with no hesitation, told me

437
00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:32.440
<v Speaker 2>this was awesome because he's a hell of a coach.

438
00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:36.079
<v Speaker 2>And sure enough he came in and the timing of

439
00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.480
<v Speaker 2>him getting the job and what he did in his

440
00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:42.680
<v Speaker 2>time here, until the scandal started happening was needed in

441
00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.680
<v Speaker 2>a major way. Like Denny built this thing. Denny's why

442
00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Louis of Basketball is what it is. But even though

443
00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he's clearly bitter about how it ended here and he's

444
00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.880
<v Speaker 2>always gonna choose blue over red, I can't be a

445
00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.119
<v Speaker 2>phony and tell you that I don't appreciate his tenure here.

446
00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:01.039
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be Louisvillat. I mean maybe if they hired

447
00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>somebody else then things would have been even better. I

448
00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:06.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I do know that he gave them irrelevant.

449
00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:08.559
<v Speaker 2>He gave the program some relevance at a time where

450
00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.839
<v Speaker 2>it was desperately needed. So, you know, I just wanted

451
00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:13.200
<v Speaker 2>to say that because I think there are like, if

452
00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:16.200
<v Speaker 2>you're somebody that's older, you're still unhappy about it, and

453
00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.039
<v Speaker 2>you probably are thinking to yourself, well you Rick and

454
00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:22.240
<v Speaker 2>go to hell, because here we are still dealing with

455
00:21:22.839 --> 00:21:26.119
<v Speaker 2>things that happen on your watch and these people who

456
00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:30.599
<v Speaker 2>we defended you two relentlessly because we I mean, Louisville

457
00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.559
<v Speaker 2>fans heard it NonStop about the Katina pal To, the

458
00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:37.799
<v Speaker 2>ceiling lines and Karen Seife for fifteen seconds, and like

459
00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.559
<v Speaker 2>no college basketball fans should be in a position where

460
00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.079
<v Speaker 2>they're defending their coach to the rival fan base talking

461
00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.319
<v Speaker 2>about how long he lasted on an Italian at an

462
00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Italian restaurant on the table. But we were there because

463
00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of you, so to know that, like you're always defending

464
00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:59.440
<v Speaker 2>him during his time, because they were relentless, and Rick

465
00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:02.079
<v Speaker 2>him himself did a lot of things that gave them

466
00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the ammunition to where we just never heard the end

467
00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.240
<v Speaker 2>of the Katina pal jokes, right, and yet to see

468
00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that he just went you know, it's not like he

469
00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.039
<v Speaker 2>was like Rick. Rick doesn't relate to fans. Like. That's

470
00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:13.039
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I tried to articulate as best I can.

471
00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Rick's not thinking about fans when he's doing anything, because

472
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.519
<v Speaker 2>Rick is one one of the most unrelatable people you'll

473
00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.519
<v Speaker 2>ever meet. But like Joe and Shively, is not somebody

474
00:22:22.599 --> 00:22:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Rick Patino's thinking about when he's out hanging out at

475
00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Bigmou Madness. And that's not to defend him, it's just

476
00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.319
<v Speaker 2>the truth. So you know, that's why whenever he was

477
00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:34.400
<v Speaker 2>asked on Saturday at the Kentucky football game about you know,

478
00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:37.160
<v Speaker 2>the night before, he made it clear that he loves

479
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.039
<v Speaker 2>his players and he loves the fans here. He just

480
00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:42.519
<v Speaker 2>wishes he got like an apology or whatever. So like

481
00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't necessarily match the anger or frustration or just sadness,

482
00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:54.039
<v Speaker 2>because like it's hard for me to be sad or

483
00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:58.039
<v Speaker 2>disappointed about something that I quite literally always knew, Like

484
00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I always knew that he would would face them over us.

485
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.759
<v Speaker 2>When when when it came to this time, whenever Cal's

486
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:06.759
<v Speaker 2>not in Lexington anymore, and you know, he's not at

487
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Loville anymore, and he's bitter about how it ended, like

488
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 2>it was all it was always the case. He even

489
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.160
<v Speaker 2>told us that at times when he was here, but

490
00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 2>we didn't, you know, we never you know, it's not

491
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:15.519
<v Speaker 2>something you think about in the moment, like hmmm, let

492
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 2>me let me, let me be upset about something that

493
00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:19.720
<v Speaker 2>may happen in twenty years. Like it's just not something

494
00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you think about. So I understand why fans, certain fans

495
00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:27.920
<v Speaker 2>feel the way they feel. It's just I, you know,

496
00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not at all surprised that Rick did that. And

497
00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a part of me that says, well, you know what,

498
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Rick and I have said this on the show, John,

499
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:36.720
<v Speaker 2>you can back me up for those who don't listen, regularly,

500
00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.519
<v Speaker 2>like from day one. I said, Yeah, I kind of

501
00:23:38.519 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>get it. That's a special thing for a player that

502
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:43.440
<v Speaker 2>won a national championship for you at Kentucky when you

503
00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:46.799
<v Speaker 2>were kind of making your name as a coach. He's

504
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:49.319
<v Speaker 2>now coaching that program, Like I can, I think that

505
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>would be a special thing for him.

506
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was. It was probably weird for

507
00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.759
<v Speaker 3>you at first, but once the connection was made.

508
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like it made sense.

509
00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it did make sense.

510
00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>But then again, like I'm giving too much credit when

511
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>I say that, because Rick Patino has always been really

512
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:10.519
<v Speaker 2>great it making something about him always we know this guy.

513
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't mean like we know him personally, but I

514
00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:13.799
<v Speaker 2>don't even know who really does because I don't. He's

515
00:24:13.839 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 2>not really to me. He's not really a human. He's

516
00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:20.160
<v Speaker 2>a robot and he's unrelatable and he's Rick Patino. So

517
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 2>not to sound cynical, but like, I think he wanted

518
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.799
<v Speaker 2>to make that moment about him. He wanted to make

519
00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.640
<v Speaker 2>the big Blue Madness, as Mark Pope did it for

520
00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the first time as the Kentucky coach. He made it

521
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:36.400
<v Speaker 2>about Rick, did he not? He did? Like he absolutely did,

522
00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>and real quick, and I'll let you go into saying,

523
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:41.559
<v Speaker 2>but I just want to throw this in there because

524
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:45.519
<v Speaker 2>this is really important, and I will stand corrected if

525
00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I am If this is not true. Rick was going

526
00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>to go to the football game and then it worked

527
00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:53.440
<v Speaker 2>out with Big Blue Madness, like he did this, he

528
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 2>put this in motion. I don't think it was like

529
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Mark Pope and his first ever Bigmu Madness is going

530
00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>to make sure Patino's out there to be honored. It

531
00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:01.400
<v Speaker 2>worked out, and I'm sure everybody had a good time

532
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>with it. But like I'm sure he is happy for Pope.

533
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I believe that, genuinely, I do. But I also know

534
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Rick is gonna take advantage of an like it wasn't

535
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:10.720
<v Speaker 2>just him wanting to be all guys, I just want

536
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:12.519
<v Speaker 2>to be around you don't bring the attention to me,

537
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Like Rick wanted to make that a Rick event, and

538
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 2>he did it and it worked perfectly. It actually, more

539
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>than anything, confirmed what I've already known. The guy's a

540
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:22.599
<v Speaker 2>master at all this. He can he can say whatever,

541
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:25.319
<v Speaker 2>he can do whatever, and we're all gonna like we're

542
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.119
<v Speaker 2>the fact that we're still talking about Rick Patino in

543
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four as much as we are is really

544
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>it speaks to him he moves the needle. You know,

545
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you play it. It's Rick Patino, for better or for worse,

546
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.799
<v Speaker 2>regardless if it's winning a big game or banging a

547
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:41.880
<v Speaker 2>chick at a restaurant, He's gonna move the needle and

548
00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:42.720
<v Speaker 2>people are gonna.

549
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Talk about it.

550
00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.799
<v Speaker 2>And he knew that, and here he is coming back

551
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 2>this past weekend and it worked out. Kentucky lost to Andy.

552
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>March Stoop's lost to Andy. That's not being talked about

553
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.599
<v Speaker 2>as much. Rick Patino coming back at least. I don't

554
00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 2>think it is sorry to cut you off.

555
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:57.640
<v Speaker 1>No, you had to get that out.

556
00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 3>You have way more better things to say on it

557
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:01.359
<v Speaker 3>than I do. But he could definitely get away with

558
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:04.039
<v Speaker 3>this with with Mark Pope, just because it seems like

559
00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:07.160
<v Speaker 3>that stands in Mark's Pope. Mark Pope's nature to just

560
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 3>not that he's a pushover, but he's kind of like,

561
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, hey, Rick, this is about you, don't make

562
00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:13.359
<v Speaker 3>it about me. He could get There's not many other

563
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky basketball coaches that would let Rick have that moment.

564
00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you said that, and I mean this as

565
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>a sincere comment or maybe compliment. If you think it's

566
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:27.160
<v Speaker 2>that in fact, you may just said it better than

567
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say it. Pope's not a me guy.

568
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Pope is not somebody that I think is cal Or

569
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>Patino as far as like it's got to be about them,

570
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and I don't You're right, I don't even if there

571
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 2>could be, there could have been other other players who

572
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>played for Rick that somehow ended up in the same

573
00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 2>spot where they're coaching now, and they probably wouldn't have

574
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>been cool with that. They would have like, all right, Rick,

575
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 2>we'll we'll, we'll make this happen at some point, but

576
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 2>not now, you know what I mean. And I think

577
00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Pope's fine with it not being about him, and that's

578
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is a compliment. Now in a way,

579
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:00.319
<v Speaker 2>you kind of gotta make it a being like it's

580
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>a larger than life position, so like you got to

581
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>be comfortable. And I'm not saying he's uncomfortable, but like,

582
00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he felt any way about like, well,

583
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I wanted it to be about me

584
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and not about Rick. I don't think he cares. And

585
00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>that's again, that's I think that speaks to his humility.

586
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>But our quick break, we're way too late for our

587
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<v Speaker 2>first break. I apologize if you guys want to join

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of talking about Patino's return to Lexington, and

612
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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say it, Louisville fans needed Kentucky to lose

613
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<v Speaker 2>to Vandy in a major way. I mean, to see

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<v Speaker 2>them meeting the Kentucky fans just sad and you know,

615
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<v Speaker 2>really beside themselves in regards to, you know, their football program.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice to see because you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>great to see what happened on Friday, although I don't

618
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<v Speaker 2>really know like what I mean, it was kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm and when I say, you know, it's

620
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<v Speaker 2>not like I'm going door to door polling people and

621
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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing a real deep dive study as far

622
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>as how fans feel about Rick going back to Lexington,

623
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<v Speaker 2>meeting both Louisville and Kentucky fans. So like I'm basing

624
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<v Speaker 2>it off of what you see on faceboo book and

625
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 2>on Twitter and that kind of stuff, and just people

626
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:03.680
<v Speaker 2>that you talk to. And you know, I've got friends

627
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that are that are fans of Kentucky and they were

628
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 2>just stunned to like see that that happened. But you know,

629
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 2>people around my age, I'm they loved Rick Pattino when

630
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>he was there, because you know, if you were, if

631
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you're my age, Rick, he had a run there in

632
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.759
<v Speaker 2>the mid to late nineties. That I mean, I think

633
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you saw some of the best college teams ever. And

634
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>if you're somebody around my age, you're probably just old

635
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>enough to remember that, and it was special. And then

636
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of course he became the enemy, the villain because he

637
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.720
<v Speaker 2>coached Louisville. So I'm sure there are many fans on

638
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the Kentucky said they don't really know how to feel

639
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.240
<v Speaker 2>about it, And then there were some that are really

640
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>happy about it because they loved that era in the nineties.

641
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>And then there's some that are probably in fact, I

642
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 2>could think of a couple people I know that are

643
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>still like, we should have never let that guy back in.

644
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>He went to Louisville, he flipped us off whenever he

645
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 2>was at the last time he coached it against us

646
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>in this arena. So I think you got a mixed

647
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>bag as far as how people feel. But I also

648
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.640
<v Speaker 2>think that there are some people on the Kentucky side

649
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 2>some fans that just love believing that it makes Louisville

650
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>fans sad, Like their satisfaction is that they don't really

651
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.119
<v Speaker 2>have any like they don't have any emotion about Rick

652
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and maybe they know, like, man, I should go scrub

653
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.839
<v Speaker 2>my Twitter account because I've just been making jokes about

654
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.799
<v Speaker 2>Karen Cipher and Katina Pale for years. Like hard for

655
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>me to embrace this guy now whenever I've just been

656
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 2>making fun of him. But you know what, here's where

657
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll find the satisfaction is that, Hey, if it's something

658
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that makes my rival sad, then I'm going to embrace

659
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.599
<v Speaker 2>it and rub it in their face. And that sounds,

660
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:36.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty sick and twisted, but that's what this

661
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>rivalry is. It's pretty sick and twisted, especially on the internet.

662
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>You kidding me, like it's a toxic wasteland. So you know,

663
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 2>I try my best to explain as far as like

664
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.279
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't like I didn't love it, like seeing it,

665
00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>but it also didn't bring me any like sadness or

666
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:57.440
<v Speaker 2>anger because I'm not surprised by it, and you know,

667
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I always knew like and somebody meant this on the

668
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:02.440
<v Speaker 2>text line I think they're right when it comes to

669
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.759
<v Speaker 2>experiencing Rick as the Kentucky coach. Regardless, if you are

670
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>on the blue side of the red side, I think

671
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:12.119
<v Speaker 2>you have an ability to view it and see it

672
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>differently than those who did not remember it and weren't

673
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 2>weren't old enough. But as far as him ever coming

674
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 2>back here, that's that's that's one of the texts that

675
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>came in on the Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line,

676
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>is there ever going to be a day where he'll

677
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>be honored here? There should be, I think, but not

678
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>anytime soon, like, not for a long long time, because

679
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's still it's still too soon, honestly, And

680
00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 2>he may not you know, he may not ever want

681
00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>to come back like he I mean, I could see

682
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Rick making it a big deal. If he did get invited,

683
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:47.720
<v Speaker 2>he'd he'd have a very public I wouldn't sho be

684
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:49.799
<v Speaker 2>shocked to be at a public Uh, you know, he

685
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:51.599
<v Speaker 2>turned it down publicly and made it a big deal

686
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>because that's what Rick does. So And by the way,

687
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 2>the text was not saying that we should we should

688
00:31:57.559 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>have him come back. In fact, it was the opposite,

689
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 2>people saying that we should ever honor this guy, which, hey,

690
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>if you feel that way, I you know, given the

691
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>recency of what you know just happened and whatnot, then

692
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. I mean, I get why you feel that way.

693
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I really do. Are this tex, says Nick. Now that

694
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you've seen Kentucky lose to South Carolina and Vandy, are

695
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.559
<v Speaker 2>you still as worried as I am about playing them

696
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the year. I mean it's a

697
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 2>weird game. Like I'm not looking at this game like

698
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>any normal matchup, meaning, I'm not like looking at personnel

699
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 2>and thinking, oh, what are we going to do when

700
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky imposes their will on the defensive line, or how

701
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>are we going to stop Barry and Brown? Like all

702
00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 2>those things are true. They've got really talented receivers, Barrian

703
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Brown being one of them, and of course defensively upfront

704
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 2>they're really really good. But one, I'm not thinking about

705
00:32:47.359 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 2>that a whole lot, because Lowell's gonna have to show

706
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 2>me something this weekend for me to have any real

707
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 2>belief that they're going to finish the season strong. Now,

708
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 2>losing to Miami doesn't mean that you're terrible. I mean

709
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Miami's a top ten team, undefeated probably shouldn't be undefeated,

710
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 2>but they are. But like, if they look good and

711
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a step in the right direction when it comes

712
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 2>to cleaning things up and just playing better football and

713
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 2>not hurting themselves, then yeah, that'll be encouraging. But I'm

714
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 2>to the point now where I got to see you

715
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>before I believe it. And with that, as I wait

716
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>to see something, I'm not thinking about the Kentucky matchup

717
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:25.799
<v Speaker 2>at all. So it answered your question. You know, last

718
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>year has nothing to do with this year at all.

719
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And I'm usually somebody that like mocks those who bring

720
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>up trends from previous years because I'm thinking, like, what

721
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>would that have to do with this at all? Different teams,

722
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>sometimes different coaches at times, but last year was the ultimate, Like,

723
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>if we were gonna beat them, we should have done

724
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 2>it then, and we didn't. So now I'm just like, yeah,

725
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>who knows if it ever happens again. I hate to

726
00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 2>be so defeated because you know it's your rival and

727
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>you want to be able to You want to be

728
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 2>able to have confidence and at least if you do lose,

729
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you can have some fun beforehand, getting yourself excited like

730
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.400
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna pull off victory, but like, I just can't

731
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>do that right now. Maybe by the time we get

732
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 2>closer to it, it's different. But that's that's kind of

733
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 2>where I'm at, And be fair, it's not just about

734
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 2>like thinking, hey, if we were gonna do it, we

735
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>would have already done it.

736
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't meant to be.

737
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I still think Kentucky has good players, like they like

738
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 2>their fan base. When it comes to their frustration with

739
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>mark stubs, I mean, I get it, Like I don't

740
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 2>think they're elite, but they shouldn't. They shouldn't have two

741
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 2>of the losses they have. I mean, they got blown

742
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 2>out by South Carolina, and maybe that loss doesn't look

743
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 2>as bad now because South Carolina, I mean, I guess

744
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:40.039
<v Speaker 2>they're still not very good. They were right there and

745
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 2>had a chance to beat Bama, couldn't hold on. They

746
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>lost to LSU in a close game, so I mean,

747
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe you know, you chalk that up as hey, it's

748
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 2>just an SEC game and it happens. But like they

749
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have lost to Vandy. I mean, I know Vandy's

750
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>playing better football and they're clearly in a better spot

751
00:34:57.800 --> 00:34:59.440
<v Speaker 2>now than they've been in a long time with their

752
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>with their co coach and just I mean, they're coming

753
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>off with two straight SEC wins. He I mean, when's

754
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.039
<v Speaker 2>the last time Vandy won consecutive SEC games? I bet

755
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:07.840
<v Speaker 2>it's been a long time. Not kidding, like, I bet

756
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. I have no clue, but I'm just thinking

757
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 2>out loud here, I wouldn't be shocked to learn that

758
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Vandy won consecutive league games for the first time in

759
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a decade. I mean, it's bandy and they're not that Vandy,

760
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>but still, like Kentucky is better and has better players,

761
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and yet they underwhelm like and with and beating Ole Miss.

762
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.280
<v Speaker 2>That law or that win doesn't look as good now

763
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.760
<v Speaker 2>as it did because Ole Miss. You know, they they

764
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.920
<v Speaker 2>crap the bed and lost to LSU, which doesn't mean

765
00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 2>that win doesn't matter, but you know, like it doesn't

766
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>look as good as it did when it happened, but

767
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>it's still valuable and it still showed that, like this

768
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky team can beat good teams. And then they turn

769
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 2>around off of a bye and lose to lose to Andy.

770
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I wish I could tell you they stink, They're embarrassing.

771
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get blown out the rest of the season,

772
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 2>and when we come into Commonwealth Stadium, we're gonna bend

773
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 2>them over to Like I wish I could say that

774
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and believe it, but I don't. Like, even if they

775
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.840
<v Speaker 2>end up losing the majority of the games the rest

776
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of the way, because they still have to play Texas,

777
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>they still have to play I guess, really, Texas is

778
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the only real Missouri's Is Missouri on their schedule or

779
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 2>did I dream that?

780
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know?

781
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>For such, I think Kentuck. I mean I know Kentucky

782
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>or sorry, I know Texas is still on their schedule.

783
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>And they've got Auburn, who isn't very good of Tennessee.

784
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee's the other team that is still highly ranked that

785
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:26.880
<v Speaker 2>they feel like, you know, they're gonna have a tough

786
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>So like, let's say they get blown out by Tennessee

787
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>and they get blown out by Texas and they split,

788
00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and let's say they end up losing to Florida in

789
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.280
<v Speaker 2>the swamp, but then they beat Auburn at home the

790
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>next week, Like at that point they'll have Murray State,

791
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.960
<v Speaker 2>so like they'll be limping in not feeling great about

792
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>their season. But I will still sit here and tell

793
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>you that, like from a talent perspective as far as

794
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 2>their personnel, like, they're gonna be tough for a lot

795
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>of teams if they play well meaning Kentucky like defensively

796
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.840
<v Speaker 2>they are loaded, they're humongous, and they're productive, like their

797
00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:59.760
<v Speaker 2>defense is not a huge problem for them. But offensively,

798
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 2>they're disciplined, they're sloppy, and they're kind of like Louisville

799
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>in a way as far as just they're not playing

800
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>clean football. They're not like, they're making mistakes that literally

801
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.800
<v Speaker 2>will cost you games in crucial times. And as a

802
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Louisville fan who's got a team that has done that

803
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.239
<v Speaker 2>some this year and just done things, you know, made

804
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>mistakes and put themselves in a position they shouldn't be in.

805
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Rather that be coaches making bad decisions, or the coach

806
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 2>is not having them ready, lack of communication, or just

807
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.800
<v Speaker 2>guys making bad plays like that, that's a really frustrating

808
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:32.880
<v Speaker 2>place to be because again, the silver lining is that

809
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't feel like talent is why you have these

810
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 2>losses and why you've played the way you've played. But

811
00:37:38.039 --> 00:37:40.079
<v Speaker 2>you get so far in the year that no longer

812
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>is a silver lining because you've played enough football and

813
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 2>you've maintained the identity that you've established, and that's what's

814
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>got me with Louisville is I just think to expect

815
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.679
<v Speaker 2>them to come out and clean things up and be

816
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>sharp and make winning plays and beat Miami. It's not

817
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>an insane thing to see happening. It's just you're just

818
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of I think it's kind of

819
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 2>blind faith blind because they played six games and they

820
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 2>haven't done that yet. Why would you think they'll do

821
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:07.119
<v Speaker 2>it now? Maybe it's the magical moment that Brom has

822
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>every now and then when he's got a big opportunity

823
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 2>to beat a team that's highly ranked. He's shown that

824
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>he did it last year. I mean, the last time

825
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Louisville was a home underdog was when Brom took it

826
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 2>to Notre Dame, who was a top ten team, and

827
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>that was a monster moment. So I mean he's shown

828
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the ability to do that at both schools Perdue and

829
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Louisville even But like this year, you played six games

830
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 2>and you have an identity, and I think despite the

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<v Speaker 2>win on Saturday, I didn't really see you shed some

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<v Speaker 2>layers that I think form up the identity that has

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<v Speaker 2>me concerned about this team not being close to as

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<v Speaker 2>good as they should be. But hey, they've got opportunities,

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<v Speaker 2>right you got Clemson, you got Miami, you got Kentucky,

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00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 2>and then pitt I mean, I don't look at Pitt

837
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<v Speaker 2>as like this big, big opportunity, but right now they're

838
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<v Speaker 2>unbeaten in their rank, so it is an opportunity. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>quick break will come back on the other side, keep

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<v Speaker 2>it rolling along. It's coffee and company. Fiel about Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, five

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<v Speaker 2>two five seven one seventy nine. One hundred is the number.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to give us a call, you can

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<v Speaker 2>text in on the llen N Federal Credit Union text line.

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<v Speaker 2>If five O two six five three zero seven ninety

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<v Speaker 2>this test. This text says, Nick, I typically agree with

847
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<v Speaker 2>you when it comes to being real and at times

848
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 2>seemingly pessimistic, but I am surprised you're not more excited

849
00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>as Louisville. Finally, avoid Finally, you might be doing talk

850
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<v Speaker 2>to text here because I'm I'm going down and it

851
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 2>starts to make less sense. But I think what you're

852
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:33.320
<v Speaker 2>saying is that you thought I'd be more pleased with Saturday,

853
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and I'm happy that they won. Trust me, I am,

854
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know that's a start. And even whenever they

855
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>were losing to teams like Notre Dame in SMU, I mean,

856
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not as if I haven't been able to find,

857
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, bright spots. But I think when you're losing

858
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<v Speaker 2>and yet you're highlighting things that are good, doesn't that

859
00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe you know everybody's different. I'm sure you

860
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<v Speaker 2>guys are, you know, not as twisted up there in

861
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<v Speaker 2>the head as I am. But when I know that

862
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<v Speaker 2>we have a quarterback that is only here one year

863
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<v Speaker 2>and I think he's really good. I think he's special.

864
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.719
<v Speaker 2>And we've got a freshman in Isaac Brown who is

865
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<v Speaker 2>one of the best freshmen in the country, one of

866
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:14.320
<v Speaker 2>the best running backs in the ACC, and he's a

867
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<v Speaker 2>true freshman. I mean Jacory Brooks, that guy's been great.

868
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Jamari Johnson, I mean game winning touchdown, and I hope

869
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<v Speaker 2>they target him more. He's special, you know, stan Kwan

870
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Clark on defense, I think the guy's are really good.

871
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Ashton Jelatti finally got loose and made some big plays.

872
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<v Speaker 2>So I guess where I may be different than you,

873
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 2>is that to feel you know that good about this

874
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<v Speaker 2>team when it comes to some of the players they

875
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<v Speaker 2>have and some of the ability this team should have,

876
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and yet to see them still making silly mistakes and

877
00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:50.480
<v Speaker 2>not being a you know, a super you know, polished

878
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>team like you know that, that frustrates me. So I'm

879
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 2>happy that they won, and I'd rather than be four

880
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 2>and two than three and three heading into this big game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm not going to at least now. Maybe

882
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<v Speaker 2>maybe I find some mojo and things are different in

883
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 2>a couple of days, but I just think right now,

884
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<v Speaker 2>for me, I just I'm not gonna lie to myself

885
00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 2>for a lot of you and say that I know

886
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.880
<v Speaker 2>that for sure they're going to come out and automatically

887
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:18.519
<v Speaker 2>just start eliminating some of the silly mistakes that they've made.

888
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>And look, some of it's been bad officiating here and

889
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>there and that, but that happens. And I think the

890
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<v Speaker 2>reason we found ourselves talking so much about officiating is

891
00:41:26.920 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 2>not because there haven't been bad calls, but it's because

892
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 2>there's been some big calls and crucial moments that didn't

893
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 2>go our way. And you feel as if that was

894
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.199
<v Speaker 2>a big factor and why you lost and you're not

895
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<v Speaker 2>wrong necessarily, but I think Louisville, if you just go

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<v Speaker 2>back and watch, I think, you know, if you're honest

897
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.599
<v Speaker 2>with yourself, Louisvill's made some big mistakes and just played

898
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 2>poorly at times in certain areas that if they didn't

899
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.519
<v Speaker 2>do that, then we wouldn't have to worry about a

900
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.599
<v Speaker 2>crucial call here there that you know, kind of seems

901
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.280
<v Speaker 2>like it dictated if you if you want or lost.

902
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.079
<v Speaker 2>So I'm hopeful that they'll that they'll, you know, they'll

903
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 2>come out ready to play. And you know, there's no

904
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 2>better time to to kind of really tighten some things

905
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 2>up and play clean football and not make crucial mistakes

906
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and crucial moments because you can, you can eliminate it

907
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 2>all and still loose because you're playing a team that

908
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<v Speaker 2>is as good as Miami. I mean, cam Ward is

909
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 2>the real deal, and uh, it will be a big

910
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>challenge on Saturday, no doubt. Or before we get to

911
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<v Speaker 2>the top of the hour, let's go to the phone lines.

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<v Speaker 2>FABO two five, seven, nine hundred is the number if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to give us a call, and we will

914
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<v Speaker 2>go to to Michael who's joining us here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety's up.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael, and Hey, Nick, I'm good about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Not too bad.

918
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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm you know, I'm happy we won this weekend.

919
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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy that, you know, we faced adversity, we came

920
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.800
<v Speaker 4>back and got took back the lead and won the game.

921
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<v Speaker 4>You know, shows the offense has some fight defense. You

922
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 4>don't even need to touch on it because we've said

923
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 4>it a memory of times. There's issues, But the one

924
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 4>thing I'm really kind of irritating is with is kind

925
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<v Speaker 4>of the same base itself. Okay, guy, we you know

926
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.800
<v Speaker 4>out watched part of Big Blue Madness also because I

927
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 4>wanted to see Rick Patino as that drama was. You know,

928
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 4>it's said that you know, went to Louisvilive. It was

929
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 4>a fun time, but it's nothing compared to Big Blue Madness.

930
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<v Speaker 2>And if you know, we want to be on that

931
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>and and it never and it never I'm here to

932
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:17.760
<v Speaker 2>tell you it never will be, never will be.

933
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<v Speaker 4>And that needs to change though, man, Like why though

934
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<v Speaker 4>you mean.

935
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<v Speaker 2>You mean like more people, like more people there is

936
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<v Speaker 2>that what you think needs to be different?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, well, both like we need to invest the funding

938
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 4>to make that more of just a big event, not

939
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<v Speaker 4>just oh here's something on a Friday night, you know,

940
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 4>throw it together. You know, I love seeing the glass

941
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.719
<v Speaker 4>floor that they had. That's really freaking cool.

942
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, I'll admit it, that is cool

943
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.440
<v Speaker 2>as hell. I think they're the only college program that

944
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.559
<v Speaker 2>has one. So maybe others will get it at some point,

945
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I don't. Kentucky's Big Blue Madness is

946
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.960
<v Speaker 2>probably a bigger deal than any program as far as

947
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:58.800
<v Speaker 2>what they do, and you know, I think it's always

948
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 2>been that way Louisville's been. There's been moments in my

949
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 2>lifetime where louis of basketball was in a better spot

950
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:06.199
<v Speaker 2>than Kentucky, and Kentucky still had a better event to

951
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.199
<v Speaker 2>start their season because that's just kind of what they do.

952
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I appreciate the call. We're up against it

953
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<v Speaker 2>here at the top of the hour, and I don't

954
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<v Speaker 2>really want to spend a whole lot of time on

955
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville Live comparing to Big Blue Madness, because I'm just

956
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 2>not somebody that if you want to eventually have Louisville's

957
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>basketball program being the ultimate event, that, like everybody in

958
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.559
<v Speaker 2>the country knows, they'll never be as good as what

959
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 2>they do. Like, I just don't think that's realistic, and

960
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't really think it's needed. And I think they

961
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 2>did a lot with Louisville Live as far as resources

962
00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and making it look really, really awesome. Now that it

963
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 2>looks as good as Kentucky's, that's up to each individual

964
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>person who experienced both. But I think they, you know,

965
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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, I don't know what to tell you.

966
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's big Blue madness whenever they hire a new coach

967
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and Rick Patino comes back and it's not a paid event,

968
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.679
<v Speaker 2>like you just get a ticket for free, I believe,

969
00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not surprised. It was a raucous atmosphere and

970
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 2>probably always will be. All right, quick break, we'll come

971
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:03.559
<v Speaker 2>back on the other side. Two more hours to go

972
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<v Speaker 2>right here on sports Stock seven ninety
