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<v Speaker 1>Golf Smarter number four hundred and fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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<v Speaker 2>insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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<v Speaker 2>Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets old. Our

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<v Speaker 2>interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations

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<v Speaker 2>like this that are no longer available in any podcast app.

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<v Speaker 3>So the favor of the slicer, why do they slice?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to get a difference of opinion? Some

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<v Speaker 3>people would say, well, I'm hitting across the ball, that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to slice. Well, in reality, the face of the

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<v Speaker 3>golf club, if it's open to the swing pack, the

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<v Speaker 3>ball will fade. You are actually hitting at a glance

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<v Speaker 3>in blow. So that's what causes a slide.

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<v Speaker 4>People don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you. The ball slice is when the

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<v Speaker 3>space is owned. So just get your mind wrapped around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the club plase.

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<v Speaker 4>So if the face is open, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Will align your arms and your shoulders to the left

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<v Speaker 3>to compensate fall out slide. When you align your arms

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<v Speaker 3>and shoulders to the left, you will produce an outside

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<v Speaker 3>in swing. So it's like walk came to the chicken

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<v Speaker 3>of the egg. Well, on day one you hit with

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<v Speaker 3>the face open the balf slide. So you learn over

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<v Speaker 3>a period of time one year, two years, fifty years

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<v Speaker 3>to line your arms and shoulders to the left, and

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<v Speaker 3>now you've groove an outside in.

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<v Speaker 5>Swing golf simplified with Director of Instruction for the Boulders,

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Crawley, this is Golf Smarter. Welcome to the Golf

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<v Speaker 5>Smarter podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Donald, Hey, Fred, how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing well. Thank you for joining me on the

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<v Speaker 5>show today.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to be leaders right.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me you're down.

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<v Speaker 5>At the Boulders in one of my favorite not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite cities, but my favorite name for city, Carefree Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great place, just right at the very north

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<v Speaker 3>end of Scottsdale, forty minutes from the Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're in Arizona. It's in what we call the

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<v Speaker 3>desert foothills, twenty three feet elevation, breeze blowing through, always sunshine.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great place.

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<v Speaker 1>Scottsdale is golf mecca.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy, We've got so many golf courses at one time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the last count is one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 3>eight golf courses in this what we'll call it our

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<v Speaker 3>county in a very very small area, so there's lots

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<v Speaker 3>of golf to be had.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of golf to be had.

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<v Speaker 5>And I have played at a number of the courses,

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<v Speaker 5>not all of them down in the Scottsdale area, and

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<v Speaker 5>was down at the Boulders are in the spring this

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<v Speaker 5>year and just loved playing there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fun track.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've got two golf courses in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>four and nineteen eighty five. J Morrish designed, who was

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<v Speaker 3>the old partner with Tom Wistoff, designed golf courses together.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good desert golf, target golf they call it. But

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<v Speaker 3>the North Coast places quite differently than the South Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>The South Coast gets all the publicity because it's all

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<v Speaker 3>the beautiful three million year old boulders and you're hitting

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<v Speaker 3>off of cheese elevation and it's really quite pretty. The

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<v Speaker 3>North Coast is challenging in a different way, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of dog legs and middle elevation change, so it's really

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<v Speaker 3>quite fun. I enjoy both courses.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a chance to play the South course and

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<v Speaker 5>I was just on fire. It was the third round

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<v Speaker 5>in three days that my friends and I had played,

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<v Speaker 5>and we came out to the you know, we came

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<v Speaker 5>out to the South course. We warmed up early in

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<v Speaker 5>the morning and I just lit it up. I had

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<v Speaker 5>a great round. I broke eighty, which is at the time,

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<v Speaker 5>well it still is. It's rare for me to.

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<v Speaker 3>Break haiti, But yeah, that's a good start a golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>The South course is a little shorter.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's narrow.

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<v Speaker 3>You must go straight here to break eadya out of there.

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<v Speaker 5>I was that day, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was that day.

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<v Speaker 5>But the views of the course, it's unlike other courses

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<v Speaker 5>in the Phoenix Scottsdale area because you are up in

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<v Speaker 5>the foothills. These boulders that surround the course are really

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<v Speaker 5>dramatic and kind of distracting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite amazing. I've had a couple of funny comments.

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<v Speaker 3>People says, well, how did you how did you truck

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<v Speaker 3>in those boulders?

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<v Speaker 4>And I just laughed.

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<v Speaker 3>They were half serious. I says, no, I said, believe

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<v Speaker 3>it or not. The geologists tell you it's like thirty

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<v Speaker 3>million years ago. This was the bottom of an ocean

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<v Speaker 3>and these granite rock croppings are just from the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of the floor of the ocean, and of course all

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<v Speaker 3>the sand around it's got washed away, which has left

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<v Speaker 3>this sandy Dooney kind of golf calls around these dramatic boulders.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you'd wonder why, because you know, golf course architects

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<v Speaker 5>are notorious for moving things around and changing things, but

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<v Speaker 5>this one, seriously, Mourrish definitely had to work around the

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<v Speaker 5>topography that was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you play through some rocks and definitely down

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<v Speaker 3>some ravines and around particular number one. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>you remember, the first soil is dramatic. It's a very

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<v Speaker 3>very narrow t shot and you hit to a plateau

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<v Speaker 3>and then you're going downhill to a very narrow shoot

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<v Speaker 3>and then one of the boulders rock crop and it's

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<v Speaker 3>sitting right behind the first green, and then people just

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<v Speaker 3>stop and hold up play and start taking photos. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's really it's spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for reminding me.

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<v Speaker 5>I do remember that first haul, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>because we started early. I didn't want to take out

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<v Speaker 5>the driver and I hit my forward right in the

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<v Speaker 5>middle of the fairway and was just so that downhill

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<v Speaker 5>shot I bogied the whole because of a three putt.

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<v Speaker 5>I made it under the green.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you did it into a very wise thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to drive the ball straight out. The first thing a

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<v Speaker 3>what I call.

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<v Speaker 4>A weekend golfer.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a traveling recreational golfer can do is to hit

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<v Speaker 3>a wood with mall loft. So what you did, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you did it consciously or subconsciously, or you weren't warmed up,

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<v Speaker 3>when you take that forward with about eighteen twenty degrees

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<v Speaker 3>of loft, you've given yourself a better chance of driving

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<v Speaker 3>the ball in the fairway. And that's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>strategic points that the amateur recreational golfer should consider, unless

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<v Speaker 3>they're a very straight driver of the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Why is it so much easier to hit the ball

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<v Speaker 5>straight with the forward than with the driver.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say a driver and average is ten point five

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<v Speaker 3>degrees of loft, so your contact point on the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Of a golf ball is pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>On the equator, meaning a ten degree driver is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be hitting right in the back of the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>which minimizes the backspin. That's one reason drivers are going

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<v Speaker 3>farther because we want the trajectory to be high that

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<v Speaker 3>have no spin on the ball, rather like a knuckleball

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<v Speaker 3>from baseball. But if the face is open or clothes,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to impart side spin on the ball and

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<v Speaker 3>the ball's going to slice our hook dramatically. But when

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<v Speaker 3>you use a twenty degree lofted club, you're hitting underneath

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<v Speaker 3>the equator. You're getting a little bit more backspin, which

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<v Speaker 3>counteracts the side spin, which is why even the great

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<v Speaker 3>players like Tiger Woods will sometimes drive with his five wood,

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<v Speaker 3>hit what you call his.

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<v Speaker 4>Stinger, and he hits the thing much straighter.

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<v Speaker 3>Phil Nicholson is driving with a thirteen degree club. He's

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<v Speaker 3>driving with more loss so that you can hit it straighter.

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<v Speaker 5>So interesting, and I just, yeah, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 5>just because of the amount of the power of the

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<v Speaker 5>swing that I would put behind it or something, but

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<v Speaker 5>it really is. The smaller club face allows you to

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<v Speaker 5>get below the equator.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's two with lost. So the short answer is

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<v Speaker 3>with mall loft, you're going to hit the ball straighter,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the backspin is counteracting the side spin. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why you hit your nine irons straighter and you can

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<v Speaker 3>hit your five iron mall. It's more forgiving, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a big part of golf strategy. Chat Nicholas was terrific.

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<v Speaker 3>People didn't realize as strong as long as Jack was,

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<v Speaker 3>he drove with a free wood most of his career.

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<v Speaker 3>People just didn't know it. You know, he just smashed

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<v Speaker 3>it a mile and of course it could is the

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<v Speaker 3>off line.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't go as far off line. We went through

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<v Speaker 4>an era.

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<v Speaker 3>Where they were making drivers with seven and eight degrees

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<v Speaker 3>loft was It was crazy because people just they can

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<v Speaker 3>get the ball in the air and b when they

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<v Speaker 3>did it when sideways. But now you'll see it's become

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<v Speaker 3>more progressive, more and more loft on the driver to

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<v Speaker 3>hit a higher launch angle with less backspin, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>the key. That's why the ball goes further now.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, also the materials are a lot different now that

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<v Speaker 5>they're making the club heads.

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<v Speaker 3>With well, no question, the material too, with the tetanic

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<v Speaker 3>shafts and the titanium faces and the gold you know

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<v Speaker 3>covered golf balls. All of that helps for sure. But

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<v Speaker 3>you've done a great job with the technology in if

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<v Speaker 3>you've ever have you ever hit fred ever hit golf

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<v Speaker 3>balls on a machine that that measures your impact? The

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<v Speaker 3>famous one at the moment is either track man or

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<v Speaker 3>flight scope. Have you ever had the opportunity to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty exciting because what it does it really

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<v Speaker 3>measures the impact and it tells you to launch angle,

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<v Speaker 3>the spin rate and your plud face as well as

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<v Speaker 3>your angle of attack. These are all things that I

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<v Speaker 3>call what I call the impact factors that effect how

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<v Speaker 3>the ball performs. And golf is a gain to control

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<v Speaker 3>the golf ball. So back to our start where we

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<v Speaker 3>started the story, or on number one, it's a type

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<v Speaker 3>fair way, he says, I don't if I can hit

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<v Speaker 3>my driver and squeeze it through that bottleneck, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the bowl of south courses, a lot of driving holes

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<v Speaker 3>that you hit a forward, a little bit more offt

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more spin. You gave up two yards

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<v Speaker 3>of distance and gained a lot of avacacy, so you

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<v Speaker 3>improved your impact. Made a great strategic decision on that

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<v Speaker 1>Well thank you, But.

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<v Speaker 5>Why is it you just said I get two yards difference?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, come on, people are all excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the driver is going to go like

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<v Speaker 3>thirty yards different. Well, it often doesn't because of this

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<v Speaker 3>side skin factor. So just think some simple numbers. You

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<v Speaker 3>could drive the ball two hundred yards that you're hitting

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<v Speaker 3>with your face two degrees open. That's two hundred yards

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty four yards of slice. So the end result

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<v Speaker 3>isn't over two hundred yards is spinning sideways as well

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<v Speaker 3>as going forward. You make the same mistake with a

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<v Speaker 3>three wood that say, sixteen degrees a block, You're only

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<v Speaker 3>going to be giving up eight yards of distance from

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<v Speaker 3>And the answer is no, Maybe seven or eight yards

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<v Speaker 3>is about all it ends up for. Again, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>So what I do when I teach.

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<v Speaker 3>If I can get the club to hit the ball better,

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<v Speaker 3>then the result is better. I did not just blow

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it just because we like it?

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<v Speaker 5>Or does it we just like to see things fly

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, typically, I mean when I say you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>guys in particular, men in particular, but even women say,

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<v Speaker 3>shot perfect. So that's not consistent. That's perfection and you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to achieve it. So okay, so let's move

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<v Speaker 3>on from consistency. What you really mean is I want

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<v Speaker 3>to hit more good shots and less bad shots. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>how do I do that? Well, that's probably on the

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<v Speaker 3>swing mechanics. But let's tie in the game of golf

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<v Speaker 3>and the strategy of hitting a little bit more loft

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<v Speaker 3>than you thought necessary in order to keep the ball

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<v Speaker 3>in play. So when we talk about this desert golf,

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<v Speaker 3>this target golf, you've got to get what we call

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<v Speaker 3>the white on green. That's the white ball on the

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<v Speaker 3>hit the forward off the tee and to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>you're driving it in the fairway. So you give in

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<v Speaker 3>up back to my little story, seven or eight yards

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<v Speaker 3>rather than chopping it out of the desert scrub.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, not being a teacher, but by getting the

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<v Speaker 5>how to improve my game was this quest for consistency.

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<v Speaker 5>I think needs to be there needs to be a

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<v Speaker 5>mindset shift on how do you deal with adversity because

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<v Speaker 5>nobody and with anyone who watches the tour, consistency is

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<v Speaker 4>And oh, you're absolutely right, and you're.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to get yourself in trouble more often than not.

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<v Speaker 5>The key is how do you deal with that trouble?

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<v Speaker 3>Great thing, I think the quote I used that I

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<v Speaker 3>just gither day and the lesson is the consistency story.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Sutherland Champions Tour player shot sixty nine on the

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<v Speaker 3>Senior Tour sometime this year and his first round is

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<v Speaker 3>shot fifty nine. You're always shot in his second round

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five, all that's fifteen strokes worse in one round.

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<v Speaker 3>That we're talking a world past player.

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<v Speaker 1>On the same golf course, on the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Golf course, the same guy one day later, with more experience,

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<v Speaker 3>and you still fifteen stross worse. So that I think

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<v Speaker 3>is a good story. Al always remembers, you know, can't

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<v Speaker 3>always be consistent. But but you're right back. What can

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<v Speaker 3>you do to handle adversity? Adversity is really learning to

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<v Speaker 3>control your mishits, and that's a physical thing and an

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<v Speaker 3>emotional thing. So for example, I go out and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>whack it out of bounds.

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<v Speaker 4>I here this premise shot. Okay. So now there's a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of choices. I've got one.

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<v Speaker 3>I could get mad, I could get frustrated or worse,

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<v Speaker 3>which a lot of people listening to this would be

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<v Speaker 3>doing this would start to beat themselves up. Oh I'm

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<v Speaker 3>such a terrible driver, I am halpless. I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm no good again to this. Now it is self talk,

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<v Speaker 3>and before you know it, you dig yourself a big

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<v Speaker 3>hole and you fall in it. Where the champion mind

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<v Speaker 3>is to say, don it, just houte it. Never mind,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to reap to it, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>drive this one down the fairway, knock it on the green,

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<v Speaker 3>make a burden with my second ball, and end up

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<v Speaker 3>on in end up making a bogie. So as a

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<v Speaker 3>mindset involved in how you play the game very important.

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<v Speaker 5>And when you're out on the course with some of

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<v Speaker 5>your students and you do a playing lesson, which I

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<v Speaker 5>think is so incredibly valuable as opposed to just working

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<v Speaker 5>on somebody's swing. Are these the kind of things that

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<v Speaker 5>you try to walk them through. Is how to handle

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<v Speaker 5>mishits no question.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I'm doing more and more of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean lesson that's mechanical lessons and more and more

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<v Speaker 3>on the golf cost. And you have to have a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good handle of your own mechanics. So it's important

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<v Speaker 3>that perhaps you can't fix everything. But one thing I

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<v Speaker 3>stress is I want everyone to know is what is

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<v Speaker 3>your natural tendency. So I'd use myself as an example.

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to swing a little flat. I tend to

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<v Speaker 3>hook the ball. I know that, so I work on

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<v Speaker 3>trying to control how much I hook it.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I.

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<v Speaker 3>Get on the golf course, if I do hook it,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to know what can I do, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>to fix everything, but to at least give myself a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to get around the golf cost. So thread you

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<v Speaker 3>and I haven't played the golf together yet, hopefully on

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<v Speaker 3>your next visit to the ball as we'll get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to do that that I would look at you

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<v Speaker 3>and say, here's your tendency.

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<v Speaker 4>So you tend to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do da da da da dad. Therefore, this is what

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<v Speaker 3>where I want you to aim on.

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<v Speaker 4>The golf course.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's say you tend to fade ball, which nine

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<v Speaker 3>golfers tend to fade the driver. So the first thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do is don't aim.

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<v Speaker 4>It down the fairway.

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<v Speaker 3>Aim it down the left side, because if you if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't fade it, you've just got a little pull

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<v Speaker 3>in a semi rough on the left side of the fairway.

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<v Speaker 3>If you do fade it, you're in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the fairway. So a lot of people who faded the

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<v Speaker 3>ball don't haven't fixed the fad. But they can't telling me, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to I've been working on a closed stance.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, why on earth if you fade the ball,

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<v Speaker 3>would you aim to the right.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they want to be able to want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to draw the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you see, that's absolutely niche. Closing your stands has

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<v Speaker 3>no influence on the golf ball whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the absolute big smith.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what that comes from closing your stands?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I was going to ask you then why would

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<v Speaker 5>they possibly do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So here's it's all the golfers listen to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you golfs for listening to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is Donald Crawley. I'm a brit I grew

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<v Speaker 3>up playing golf in Britain, so and I studied under

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<v Speaker 3>some of these old krusty golf prowls from way back length.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's just go back one hundred years ago. One

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<v Speaker 3>hundred years ago were the great players. There were all

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<v Speaker 3>these Scottish guys, you know, Harry Varden, Braid, J. H. Taylor,

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<v Speaker 3>then this and then bringing Bobby Jones this era. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So they played with hickory shafted golf clubs. They played

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<v Speaker 3>with a rock used to be called a good percher

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<v Speaker 3>ball or the feathery terrible old golf balls. They couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get that thing to go one hundred and fifty yards.

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<v Speaker 3>So between the conditions, windy Sandy golf courses, crappy equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>They had to stand closed, have a very strong grip,

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<v Speaker 3>swim flat around the body, used their risks a lot

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<v Speaker 3>and turn over to make the ball hit these low

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<v Speaker 3>running hooks. That's what they did, and they shot probably

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<v Speaker 3>a great player in those years with the conditions and

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<v Speaker 4>If they shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty, they were a world champion. Okay, so now fast forward.

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<v Speaker 3>That gets passed down. So Tommy Ama, whatever, Bobby Jones

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<v Speaker 3>in particular, let's close the stance and look how Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>hits this beautiful draw from a close stance. Okay, Now

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<v Speaker 3>they've worked the swing coming way from the inside, fast

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<v Speaker 3>forward a hundred years. You don't need to close your

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<v Speaker 3>stands and start the ball out to the right and

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<v Speaker 3>hit a low hook to come around. With the equipment

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<v Speaker 3>you have now you can get the ball up in

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<v Speaker 3>there and hit it over one hundred and fifty yards anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's just try this in Why doesn't the close

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<v Speaker 3>stance work in.

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<v Speaker 4>The modern golfer.

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<v Speaker 3>Fred's going to go ahead and just close closes stands

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<v Speaker 3>and not let the closing of the stands influence the

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<v Speaker 3>swing path and allow the golf club to hit from

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<v Speaker 3>the inside and close the face. All Fred does is

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<v Speaker 3>closest stands and goes ahead, swinging outside and hitting a

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<v Speaker 3>pull face.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let's make sure that we understand what you mean

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<v Speaker 5>by closing the stands.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that your front foot is.

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<v Speaker 5>Forward forward right, your back foot, the back foot, the

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<v Speaker 5>one away from the target, is pulled back versus. An

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<v Speaker 5>open stance is opening your body to the target.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's your feet, and that's the thing people

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<v Speaker 3>close the stands. So typically we'll talk about the right

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<v Speaker 3>handed golfers. So forgi'sk for right handed golfers and left

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<v Speaker 3>it's really smart. You can flip it over. Right handed

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<v Speaker 3>golfer is going to pull the right foot back. That's

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<v Speaker 3>called the closed stance. But typically your feet are just

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<v Speaker 3>aimed really off to the right. Now, And what you

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<v Speaker 3>and most golfers don't understand is your upper body, which

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<v Speaker 3>is your alignment of your arms and your shoulders, is

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<v Speaker 3>what influences the swing path more than your feet. So

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<v Speaker 3>even though you've closed your stands.

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<v Speaker 4>That's your feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Your upper body is typically left open. Open is to

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<v Speaker 3>the left, So you can close your stance all you want,

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<v Speaker 3>But if your upper body is lined up to the left,

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<v Speaker 3>you will swing to the left. The influence of an

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<v Speaker 3>out to in our golf swing.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to the left open the face, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball slices, which is why people come from me

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<v Speaker 3>say normal and close the most stones and still slicing.

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<v Speaker 3>And the answer and the answer is your feet have

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<v Speaker 3>got nothing to do with it. Let's close your upper body,

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<v Speaker 3>let's close your arms and your shoulders. Then you're on

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<v Speaker 3>the right. Tractor in influences swing path, which will influence

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<v Speaker 3>the club face, which will end result give you a

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<v Speaker 4>Draw the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Lots of times someone will go, you know your feet

429
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<v Speaker 5>where you know your ball went way right? And do

430
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<v Speaker 5>you realize your feet were pointing exactly in the direction

431
00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:24.559
<v Speaker 5>where your ball went And they're trying to compensate that

432
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<v Speaker 5>with opening their shoulders. Is that what they think they're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>So actually, so let's go back. Let's go back to

435
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<v Speaker 3>the fade of the slicer. So the fad of the slicer,

436
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<v Speaker 3>why do they slice? Now you're going to get a

437
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<v Speaker 3>difference of opinion. Some people would say, well, I'm hitting

438
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<v Speaker 3>across the ball that's going to slice. Well, in reality,

439
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<v Speaker 3>the face of the golf club if it's open to

440
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<v Speaker 3>the swing path, the ball will fade. You're actually hitting

441
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<v Speaker 3>at a glance in blow. Okay, So that's what is

442
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<v Speaker 3>a slice. People don't even understand that golf crot. In fact,

443
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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing a seminar for golf pros on September twenty

444
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<v Speaker 3>second Hit of the Boulders, and I'm going to have

445
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<v Speaker 3>fifty young golf professionals and they're going to not realize

446
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<v Speaker 3>what actually causes a slice. They just don't know.

447
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<v Speaker 4>They just don't get it. Well, let me tell you.

448
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<v Speaker 3>The ball slices when the face is opened, So just

449
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<v Speaker 3>get your mind wrapped around.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about the club face.

451
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<v Speaker 3>So if the face is open, you will align your

452
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<v Speaker 3>arms and your shoulders to the left to compensate.

453
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<v Speaker 4>For that slice.

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<v Speaker 3>When you align your arms and shoulders to the left,

455
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<v Speaker 3>you will produce an outside in swing. So it's like

456
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<v Speaker 3>what came first, the chicken of the egg. Well, on

457
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<v Speaker 3>day one you hit with the face open, the ball sliced.

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<v Speaker 3>So you learn over a period of time, one year,

459
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<v Speaker 3>two years, fifty years, to line you up some shoulders

460
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<v Speaker 3>to the left, and now you've groove an outside in

461
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<v Speaker 3>the swing. Then you come along and says yeah. But

462
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<v Speaker 3>if I close my stands, if I drop my right

463
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<v Speaker 3>foot back, I'm going to stop my slice wrong. And

464
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<v Speaker 3>that's why it doesn't work. And I'm kind of glad

465
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<v Speaker 3>for that, because a lot of people will have to

466
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<v Speaker 3>keep coming to Donald Crawley and asking, oh God, my slice.

467
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<v Speaker 3>And I promise you that closing your stands isn't the answer.

468
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Wow, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the answer is the true answer is and

470
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<v Speaker 3>I do. I hope I don't sound flippant. I've got

471
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<v Speaker 3>a dry sense of humor.

472
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<v Speaker 4>I'm a gritzer.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember that you're a great Wait a minute, I thought

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<v Speaker 5>that accent was right from Arizona.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's very brother long lady.

476
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<v Speaker 1>He didn't sound like a local.

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<v Speaker 3>So all the slices, okay, lifting up slices. If you're

478
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<v Speaker 3>slicing the ball, go and get some help, for someone

479
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<v Speaker 3>to teach you how to close the club face. Not

480
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 3>your stamps, close your club face and you'll get rid

481
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<v Speaker 3>of your slides.

482
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<v Speaker 5>So then it doesn't matter if we're playing a resort

483
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<v Speaker 5>course that has wide open fairways or the local or

484
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 5>your country club, which the fairways are much narrower. And

485
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:27.039
<v Speaker 5>that's mainly the difference right between country club and resort courses.

486
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<v Speaker 1>Is how wide the fairways are, I.

487
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<v Speaker 3>Would think, and I think I think it depends where

488
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<v Speaker 3>you go. But I hear what you're saying. I think,

489
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<v Speaker 3>as a rule of thumb, if you're playing a narrow

490
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<v Speaker 3>golf call so or here the boulders the south coast

491
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 3>is narrower in the North coast. I do not hit

492
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<v Speaker 3>a driver on the South coast until whole number eight.

493
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<v Speaker 3>And the reason is number one is narrow fredited.

494
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<v Speaker 4>A wide thing.

495
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<v Speaker 3>As I mentioned, you hit a forward, I hit a

496
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<v Speaker 3>fair way, would off the first two get it in

497
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 3>the fairway. Hole number two is a part three. Hole

498
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.079
<v Speaker 3>number three is a bog lean to the right. If

499
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I hit my driver, i'd drive it through the fairway.

500
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 3>So again, I hit a fairway wood whole number four,

501
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I could should hit driver. So I'm sort of on

502
00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 3>the fence between driver and fairway wood. Number five is

503
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.200
<v Speaker 3>a split fairway. You can take the gamble and hit

504
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 3>the driver, or you could hit the fairry wood hybrid

505
00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 3>on the right side of the fairway. It's like we

506
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<v Speaker 3>call a split fairway. Number six is a short power four.

507
00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 3>You don't need a driver. Number seven is the part three,

508
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 3>and then number eight is the first one where the

509
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:43.400
<v Speaker 3>fairways opens up and it's a long power four. I

510
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>need to hit driver so I can get home into

511
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<v Speaker 3>So the strategy of the golf or the strategy of

512
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 3>the game fits into what the golf course is given me.

513
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<v Speaker 1>So interesting.

514
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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if I see if that and

515
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.400
<v Speaker 3>listeners here because I've never played the card. I hope

516
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.319
<v Speaker 3>you get to come out here and play it. I

517
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>hope I get a chance to help you with your

518
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 3>golf game. What I do a lot is what I

519
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 3>call a quick fix before you play golf. So if

520
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 3>I see Fred and says, look, I don't have time

521
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 3>to work on my game. You know I'm a busy guy.

522
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<v Speaker 3>That help me, then I'll give you a quick what

523
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.000
<v Speaker 3>I call a quick fix or an allo lesson to say, Fred,

524
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.839
<v Speaker 3>here's your tendencies here. This is one of two things

525
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.480
<v Speaker 3>you could do right now without having to reinvent the wheel.

526
00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 3>And you can control your golf ball better, so I

527
00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 3>improve the impact, I improve your ballflight without.

528
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 4>Having to wrap your head around too many things.

529
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 3>So that's the first step. Let's give you a quick

530
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 3>fix on your mechanics. But then when we play golf.

531
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<v Speaker 3>I want you thinking correctly, and I want you making

532
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 3>good decisions, good strategic decisions, playing the percentage game, meaning

533
00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:02.480
<v Speaker 3>give yourself a chance to succeed. Don't try and thread

534
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 3>that ball through a two inch hole through the trees

535
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:08.880
<v Speaker 3>when you could be pitching it over the trees and

536
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 3>on the green, saying yourself the.

537
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<v Speaker 5>Scope, Well, we have our number one rule here. Never

538
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<v Speaker 5>follow a bad shot with a stupid shot.

539
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 3>That's so true, or an angry shot, which is usually

540
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<v Speaker 3>an angry hole.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I definitely want to be able to play the

543
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 5>Boulders again, because I did succeed in the South course.

544
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.480
<v Speaker 5>I had a good round, but it was the first time,

545
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 5>and I want to now that I kind of have

546
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.519
<v Speaker 5>a sense of how to play that course, I want

547
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 5>to go back and try it again.

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00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly. And then you know, one of the things

549
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<v Speaker 3>that I stress is then I'll get a plug in here,

550
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and my website is called Golf Simplified.

551
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I wasn't going to let.

552
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.480
<v Speaker 5>You leave without discussing Golf Simplified. I wanted to go

553
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 5>there next.

554
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

555
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<v Speaker 3>Good, okay, good, let's let's move in there, because that's

556
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 3>that's what I teach the here the boulders with the

557
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.839
<v Speaker 3>its for Golf Symplified. I'm doing a seminar for PGA professionals.

558
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.240
<v Speaker 4>Golf Symplify. Now that's my.

559
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Little title to it. That's a way to describe it.

560
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:16.279
<v Speaker 3>That by for myself included, I'm ready to play a

561
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 3>PGA tournament. I've got to simplify my thought process so

562
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.319
<v Speaker 3>that I give myself a chance to succeed.

563
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 4>And play better.

564
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Not a matter of how much you think about it.

565
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a matter of what you think about and the

566
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 3>correct thoughts.

567
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<v Speaker 5>So then golf Simplified for you to kind of summarize that.

568
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 5>But that is the name of your school. That is

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<v Speaker 5>the name of your website, correct, Golfsimplified dot com.

570
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<v Speaker 4>Golfsimplified dot com.

571
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Excellent.

572
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 5>All right, Well, we'll send people there and so you

573
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 5>give lessons beyond just what you offer on the website.

574
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<v Speaker 5>If people want to come down and visit you and

575
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:59.759
<v Speaker 5>care Free Arizona, you should definitely. If you're going down there,

576
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:02.680
<v Speaker 5>I highly recommend. It is a bit of a drive

577
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 5>from you from the central Scottsdale area, you're going far north,

578
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.079
<v Speaker 5>but it's worth the drive. It's a beautiful drive, and

579
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 5>the course is rather breathtaking compared to a lot of

580
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 5>the other desert courses.

581
00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 1>It's very different than other desert courses.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is one of the things when I've been

583
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<v Speaker 3>out in this what we call the Phoenix Valley since

584
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty two and me on they had two or

585
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 3>three golf courses then, and then when all the resort

586
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>courses were built in the mid eighties. The Boulders is

587
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 3>built with enough space that the houses don't encroach the

588
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 3>golf course. What you'll find is the other golf courses

589
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 3>in this area that have a good reputation. When they

590
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.319
<v Speaker 3>were first designed, they were beautiful because it was just

591
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 3>a golf course and desert landscape all around you. But now,

592
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:02.119
<v Speaker 3>of course the real estate they've got track homes built

593
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 3>up right next to the fairway, I mean a wich.

594
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 3>I've got to bias opinion about the Boulders. It's one

595
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>of the prettiest golf courses, both of them all, because

596
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>you're out there and looking up foothills and you've got

597
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>a house that's one hundred yards off the fairway, not

598
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:21.400
<v Speaker 3>something right up against you. You know, the left side

599
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 3>of your drive and aiming points.

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<v Speaker 5>If you like to take photographs when you're traveling going

601
00:32:33.400 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 5>to golf courses.

602
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I like to do that.

603
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 5>I like to take pictures of golf courses. Some of

604
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.880
<v Speaker 5>the courses in Arizona. You know, it's mostly sky. It's

605
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 5>it's very flat. You know, there's not a lot of

606
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.200
<v Speaker 5>excitement except of a couple of swarow cactus. But the photographs,

607
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 5>and I'm going to put a couple of mine up.

608
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:53.920
<v Speaker 5>The photographs from the from the Boulders South Course are

609
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 5>so dramatic. I think one of my favorite ones was

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<v Speaker 5>the giant swarrow cactus right in the center of a bunker.

611
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that'll be numbers whole number seven. Yeah right, Yeah,

612
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.759
<v Speaker 3>you've got this beautiful. Actually, that hole is probably the

613
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 3>most photograph because you've got a massive whole boulder where

614
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've played what piece did you

615
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 3>play for You played the white teeth.

616
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>We played the white copper combo.

617
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 4>O the white coup comb up there, which is one hundred.

618
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.279
<v Speaker 5>And twenty five slope, So the heart the back teams

619
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 5>were about one hundred and forty slope. That was about

620
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 5>one hundred and twenty five. That's more of where our

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00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 5>game is.

622
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, which is good. I mean, you know, the

623
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:34.000
<v Speaker 3>whole national push t play the tee for would makes sense.

624
00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 3>So you play a golf course. It doesn't matter which

625
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:39.720
<v Speaker 3>teas as long as you enjoy it. Whereas my mind

626
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.839
<v Speaker 3>was going on that whole you were referring to the

627
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 3>blue teeth is elevated, which gives you an incredible view.

628
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<v Speaker 3>It just made the whole heart of its elevated. And

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<v Speaker 3>you stood on the top of the big boulders you know,

630
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 3>i'd say millions of years old that all the sandy

631
00:33:55.880 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 3>is washed around from them. It looks like it's going

632
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 3>to tipple over. And you play from that key to

633
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>the whole. We all referrence to the green and then

634
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 3>on the right side in the bunker there's this massive

635
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 3>sorrel cactusy in that which is it. It's a beautiful view.

636
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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately I keep getting by ball behind itself. I'm not

637
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 3>sure I like it too well.

638
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>It's the only hole I double bogie that day.

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<v Speaker 4>There you go.

640
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<v Speaker 3>Why you remember the cactus.

641
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly.

642
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 5>But I also want to mention that, you know, you

643
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.639
<v Speaker 5>you talked about the homes in the residential area that

644
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 5>was built up, but there's a magnificent resort at the

645
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 5>Boulders as well. It's not it's a great destination place

646
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 5>that you can get away, get some you know, some

647
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.679
<v Speaker 5>great rest, but also two rounds of golf right there

648
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:45.599
<v Speaker 5>on the property. Yeah.

649
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 3>It's there's one hundred and sixty two caroceeders, which is

650
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 3>it's not a high rise of hotel than a block.

651
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's these casitas that are scattered around actually on

652
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 3>the south course, so you get like your own middle

653
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 3>apartment and they just they're real wonderful because they're so unobtrusive.

654
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 4>And then you can.

655
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Walk right from the casino, you know, down to the

656
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 3>back first go out to the golf course. It's in fact,

657
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I found this place years ago and I played it.

658
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I says, well, it's a beautiful place. And then I

659
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.519
<v Speaker 3>came on my adversary before I started working here eleven

660
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and so and I it just had a

661
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 3>real weekend what we call it a staycation, and we

662
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 3>just came, you know, an hour drive away and stayed

663
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 3>here for a couple of nights.

664
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:33.320
<v Speaker 4>And it's beautiful.

665
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.880
<v Speaker 3>And I'm a golf course or it's like usually I

666
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 3>don't go vacationing on golf results, but it really is.

667
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.599
<v Speaker 3>It's fabulous. It's a great place to stay. It's a

668
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>one stop shop. You don't have to jump into into

669
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.519
<v Speaker 3>cars and drive to the golf course. You just jump

670
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 3>on a golf cart and get a shuttle away to

671
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the first tea and.

672
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:52.519
<v Speaker 4>Off you go.

673
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a very nice testimony for a golf professional

674
00:35:57.760 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 5>who's like, yeah, I'm going to stay at a golf course.

675
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:07.199
<v Speaker 5>That's pretty rare. Well, I also want to congratulate you. You've

676
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 5>received some great accolation on your golf instruction. You've been

677
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:16.079
<v Speaker 5>named PGA Teacher of the Year by various magazines and

678
00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 5>in Arizona. That's also a testimony to what a great

679
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 5>teacher you are.

680
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, thank you, very kind of you. I

681
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>generally say that, fortunately for me in my business, if

682
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:33.840
<v Speaker 3>you get results, if you help people, then those kind

683
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.760
<v Speaker 3>of awards seem to follow. And I've been fortunate that

684
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 3>I've been on the national Top one hundred teacher list

685
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 3>for twenty years and then I've had PGA Teacher the

686
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Year twice and some other little accolades, And it's all

687
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 3>based on me helping you. If Fred comes to play

688
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 3>golf and I help you a little bit, whether I

689
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 3>just help you thought process your routine, get rid of

690
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a fade, or more importantly, get

691
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.039
<v Speaker 3>you to shoot a rower number because we work on

692
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 3>your show game and Fred remembers me and then sends

693
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 3>in a nice note on trip Advisor whatever, and suddenly

694
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.800
<v Speaker 3>that the powers to be say, you know, you must

695
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 3>know what you're doing, and to give me a nice award.

696
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>So it's very rewarding and it keeps me honest and

697
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 3>working hard to try and help people improve the game.

698
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm still a golf not so I still trying to

699
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 3>get better. So as long as you express that, then

700
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:29.480
<v Speaker 3>those kind of trophies follow.

701
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 1>And golf simplified to me is very similar to golf

702
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>smarter in that my sense, what you're trying to teach

703
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 1>is that it's not at all about your mechanics, that

704
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a way to get lower scores, and there's a

705
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.880
<v Speaker 1>simple way for you to teach how to lower scores

706
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that's not just focusing on banging balls all day.

707
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly right. Golf smarter. You've got it right, Fred,

708
00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 3>because it is is being smarter, and he's thinking, as

709
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:02.440
<v Speaker 3>they say, golf is about a routine, making sure you're

710
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.800
<v Speaker 3>in a consistent routine, which will help improve your consistency.

711
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 3>So even if your mechanics aren't perfect, you can still

712
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.719
<v Speaker 3>control your golf ball and you can still keep your

713
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.199
<v Speaker 3>ball in play. But once you get within fifty yards,

714
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 3>that's where the rubber really meets the role. You've got

715
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 3>to be able to chip and put it well in

716
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 3>order to score. When I do articles and I write.

717
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:31.840
<v Speaker 4>About who's won what, and we think it's because.

718
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 3>They drive the ball three hundred and twenty yards, here's

719
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 3>a quick thing about scoring. Bubba Watson, who's a I

720
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 3>can't say as a friend that Elisia, so I see indication. Anyway,

721
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Bubba hits the ball three hundred and fifty yards and

722
00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:49.639
<v Speaker 3>it's ridiculous how far Pubber can hit it. What people

723
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:55.480
<v Speaker 3>don't realize is Bubber is the best long what we

724
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 3>call a lag padder on tour this year, which means

725
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 3>is Bubba Watson has had the least amount of three

726
00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:08.559
<v Speaker 3>putts of anyone else. But we don't remember that. We

727
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 3>remember Brother eighty three fifty, the Butther, the heck of

728
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 3>a Tutter, Tiger Woods, Tom Watson, Jack Nicholas. They're great players.

729
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 3>They were the best tutters ever walks on the face

730
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:20.599
<v Speaker 3>of the earth.

731
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 5>I got a good one for you, and I think

732
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.199
<v Speaker 5>I know you have to run. You have a lesson

733
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:30.480
<v Speaker 5>coming up. But Tiger Woods is needing a coach. If

734
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 5>Tiger Woods were to reach out to you, it's like, hey,

735
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 5>you know, Bubba told me that you teach over there,

736
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.639
<v Speaker 5>and I'm heading out. I'm visiting Bubba hanging out, and

737
00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.679
<v Speaker 5>he was interested in looking for coach. He's looking to

738
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.599
<v Speaker 5>hire somebody. And he called you, what would you tell

739
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.800
<v Speaker 5>me you thought his issue was and how you would

740
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 5>help him.

741
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been quoted saying this, the Fosso all quoted

742
00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:56.000
<v Speaker 3>again online and Tiger will probably black blacklist and if

743
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 3>he hears this, oh.

744
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Tiger is going to listen to this show.

745
00:39:58.679 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Right. It's amazing he's got He's got a hold camp that.

746
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Finds out this stuff.

747
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:09.599
<v Speaker 3>And Tiger my opinion, my young opinion, is Tiger's mechanics

748
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 3>plant the issue. I tell you what, He's had good

749
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 3>instructors his whole life, his father, he's had the gentleman

750
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 3>that the guy from California told him during I forgotten

751
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:25.840
<v Speaker 3>his name then. But Butcher's a close personal friend is

752
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:28.840
<v Speaker 3>a terrific teacher, did a great job. Hank Haney is

753
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 3>a close friend. Hank did a terrific job with him.

754
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Sean Foley has done his thing in the last two

755
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:40.280
<v Speaker 3>or three years. But Tiger's mechanics, it's Tiger's body. The

756
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>question is can Tiger's body, you know, hang on it

757
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:47.519
<v Speaker 3>and you're not going he handle it?

758
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.119
<v Speaker 4>Because Tiger can.

759
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Do whatever he wants to do. He's so talented. If

760
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 3>he wants to swing flattener around his body with the

761
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:59.280
<v Speaker 3>closed face, he's still with Lady Championships. If he wants

762
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.480
<v Speaker 3>to steep and it playing a little bit and start

763
00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 3>aiming like and trying to cut the ball and do that,

764
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 3>you can know every once.

765
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:07.679
<v Speaker 4>It's so talented.

766
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 3>But will his body hold up to it? Will his

767
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.679
<v Speaker 3>knee allow him to rotate through? Now he's got back

768
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.280
<v Speaker 3>and knee issues with fault. I really have emphasis of

769
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 3>people with back, knee and his issues because you've got

770
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:25.719
<v Speaker 3>those joints that take a lot of stress. So if

771
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Tiger called me as a Tiger, we need to get

772
00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 3>your body in as good as shape as possible, not

773
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>a matter of change in your swing playing.

774
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but this is a guy who has you know,

775
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:41.679
<v Speaker 5>he's very dedicated to his workouts. He has you know,

776
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 5>he's changed the style of body for a golfer. What

777
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 5>specifically would you have him work on? What would you

778
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 5>tell him?

779
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not about mechanics, it's not about his play

780
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.400
<v Speaker 3>and stuff. I mean, you know, because Butch had one thing.

781
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 4>But then Butch.

782
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 3>Basically shortened his golf swing because Tiger's swing used to

783
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.960
<v Speaker 3>be too much across the line with the face closed Tiger,

784
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:05.679
<v Speaker 3>and but shortened him up and that helped. But then

785
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 3>hank can I agree one hundred percent? He actually had

786
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the face closed and the swing was too inside and up,

787
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 3>and so he rounded it, flattened it with the face

788
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>all open, which helped. And then Sean Folly felt that

789
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>he was too much around and open, so then he

790
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.440
<v Speaker 3>bent him over all and steeped in the plane, particularly

791
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 3>with the plane of his shoulder tents. So they've been

792
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:32.719
<v Speaker 3>changing some mechanics. The Tiger needs to get healthy and

793
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 3>b get his tuter back to where it used to be.

794
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 3>And both Butch and Hanker told me he would spend

795
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>hours upon hours working on chipping and Paddy he's had

796
00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 3>the greatest shot game since seven ballastra. So Tiger, what

797
00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 3>we're going to do, get you healthy and let's get

798
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 3>that short game ranked up.

799
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Now.

800
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:56.960
<v Speaker 3>The one thing I would say with the mechanics is

801
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.559
<v Speaker 3>his big fear still is a driver.

802
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 4>And I'd have a.

803
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Feeling about the driver. The way he's going about it.

804
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.519
<v Speaker 3>There's one mechanical thing i'd have him trying to do

805
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:12.280
<v Speaker 3>with his driver.

806
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:21.360
<v Speaker 5>Do you sense that he's not confident with his driver

807
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:22.320
<v Speaker 5>when he steps up with it?

808
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

809
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I no, he's not confident with his driver. No,

810
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 3>he's fearful.

811
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 4>We all have.

812
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 3>We all fear and miss. I thought Hanks that everyone

813
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 3>might do. But hanged a good book of called The

814
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Big Miss. And of course it depends on how you

815
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 3>interpret it. I thought it was very good. I thought

816
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 3>it was it was on his opinion of what he

817
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.719
<v Speaker 3>experienced with six years with Tiger. But the Big Miss

818
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 3>was right. Tiger is trying to put what we call

819
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 3>double crossly, which is to pull hook it. So if

820
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:51.320
<v Speaker 3>you set up down the left side to hit a

821
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.760
<v Speaker 3>fade and then you hit a hook, you are royally

822
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 3>screwed for the rest.

823
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Of the day. Yes, you are.

824
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 3>You are so fearful of the left side and I

825
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.119
<v Speaker 3>believe that Tiger is fearful of that miss and then

826
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:11.159
<v Speaker 3>compensates because he's human. It's what I'd like to do

827
00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.360
<v Speaker 3>with something a little different with his with his driver

828
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.400
<v Speaker 3>and get him drive any better. But you know you

829
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 3>have to get into his cany body hold up what

830
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.039
<v Speaker 3>he really wants to do, and maybe he can't, and

831
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 3>maybe the only time.

832
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:24.519
<v Speaker 4>To knows that.

833
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.400
<v Speaker 3>So I suppose I'll never get the privilege to find

834
00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 3>out what he physically can and can't do until you

835
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 3>work with him one on one, when you know there's

836
00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 3>no cameras and recordings around him.

837
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.119
<v Speaker 5>So would you advise him to try to be a

838
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.800
<v Speaker 5>little more patient about his recovery of his injuries? Is

839
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.920
<v Speaker 5>that what you're talking about his body? Is that just

840
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 5>just take some more time off. You're not fully healed

841
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 5>yet right.

842
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh now, it's been off looking in the last three years.

843
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 3>He's hardly played, what between his personal issues and then injury,

844
00:44:56.840 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 3>he's hardly played the last three years. But I don't

845
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.400
<v Speaker 3>think he can came back too soon. But I'm not

846
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.079
<v Speaker 3>sure that whatever surgery has had or with therapy has

847
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 3>had that is recovered. But I don't think Tiger is

848
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.440
<v Speaker 3>particular issues or plenty of time to rest. But I

849
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:13.119
<v Speaker 3>wish I could go back and quote at the top

850
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:13.519
<v Speaker 3>of my head.

851
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 4>But it's like, how.

852
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 3>Many weeks is he played? He was offered us eight

853
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<v Speaker 3>months and then back for two months, and then off

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<v Speaker 3>for three months, and no, I think the guy needs

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<v Speaker 3>to play. And Tiger what used to do? He used

856
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<v Speaker 3>to play himself into a tournament. He would practice thirty

857
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<v Speaker 3>six holes a day on the week before the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>He would play himself into shape, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>terrific because he shows he wasn't working on his mechanics

860
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<v Speaker 3>and fiddling with his face path and angle and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>He was just out there playing the game as he

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<v Speaker 3>knows it, which I think is terrific. And there's a

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<v Speaker 3>testimony for you and I talking about golf smarter, golf, simplified.

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<v Speaker 3>Tiger Woods is the ultimate smartest guy. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>about the simplest, the smartest guy, just like John Nicholas was.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they were major tournaments, fascinating. They learned to

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<v Speaker 3>they learned to play the game. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>telling Tiger patients would work. I don't think we can

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<v Speaker 3>fire you in the first second if you said Tiger

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<v Speaker 3>the patient.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think i'd get the conversation far enough into

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<v Speaker 5>it to allow him to fire me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the next time I bump into Tiger, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell him to call Fred Green and golf smarter and

875
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<v Speaker 3>he'll probably he'll probably rut on the front.

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<v Speaker 5>You right, Yeah, he'll keep walking right by you anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>Well if you're headed there.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, I was just thinking, okay, So so Fred says,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been a wonderful conversation. I'm teaching a young golf

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<v Speaker 3>professional from Mexico City. He is a wonderful golfer and

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<v Speaker 3>he is one shot away for as interviewing him on

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<v Speaker 3>our next podcast, because he's going to be out there.

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<v Speaker 4>On the mainstream.

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<v Speaker 3>He's currently playing the PGA Latin American Tour, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the feeding to the web dot Com, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>feeding the PGA Tour. So he is getting ready to

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<v Speaker 3>go and play the second half of the Latin American Tour,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've got to get in shave about one stroke

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<v Speaker 3>off around and then that way he'll be on web

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<v Speaker 3>dot Com next year. Then they'll be on PGA Tour

891
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<v Speaker 3>the next year. So in two years, I can take

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<v Speaker 3>my golf simplified on the road on the tour, traveling

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<v Speaker 3>with my young friend JD Fernandez.

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<v Speaker 1>So uhh, that's what I was going to Jd for

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<v Speaker 1>looking up.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a young man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a terrific guy. I've been working with him for

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<v Speaker 3>four years. He keeps putting up with me. His golf

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<v Speaker 3>swing is terrific and you see him swaying and people

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<v Speaker 3>think it's Rolly mckelwroy. So I sent his video to

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of my friends, like Butch and Hank, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, take a look at me, give me a

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<v Speaker 3>second opinion of my You know, what do you see here?

904
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<v Speaker 3>And he said he teaching Rory. I said, no, I wish,

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<v Speaker 3>but he does look like him and he swings like

906
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<v Speaker 3>him too, so we've got to get him. He's a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of strokes away from Rory is a game, but

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<v Speaker 3>only one stroke away from being out there at least

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<v Speaker 3>competing on a on the on the big platform.

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<v Speaker 1>So I, oh, well, good luck with him. That sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll definitely keep an.

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<v Speaker 4>Eye on him, as you can tell.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I love this guy and he's working hard.

914
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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Work with him today. He'll jump on a plane and

916
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<v Speaker 3>then he'll be down in South America for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>three weeks at a time, and they come home for a

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<v Speaker 3>week and he's doing ees on top. You know. Then

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<v Speaker 3>you know I'm rude him for him, you know, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm his coach. But this is a good kid, So

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<v Speaker 3>I hope he makes it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got the ability.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope you will come back on the show sometime.

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<v Speaker 5>I've really enjoyed, I've learned a tremendous amount and enjoyed

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<v Speaker 5>speaking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you come back sometimes?

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<v Speaker 3>I sure that it would be my pleasure. Fred, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for having me and golf. Everyone listening golf, Smarter golf.

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<v Speaker 4>Since this alright, come and visit me at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Boulders and keep listening into Stress podcast. It's good stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope I got another opportunity to chatch a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more
