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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Update on the President. He is

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to place sanctions on Russia today. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>truth social post this morning where he said he is

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<v Speaker 1>strongly considering large scale banking sanctions, sanctions and tariffs on Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Finding something interesting out about Trump, maybe something new or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something that we always knew about him, but it

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<v Speaker 1>just feels kind of new, the fact that I think

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<v Speaker 1>that he wants or that he's listening to feedback coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next, another example of this where he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>backtracking when it comes to doge and the just move

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<v Speaker 1>fast and break everything kind of mentality that he and

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk have had when it comes to the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government and cutting the bloat.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of backtracking there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's kind of backtracking on his romance with Putin

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sanctions on Russia. Kind of a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a realization that this is a president who does

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the negative things people say and does like

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<v Speaker 1>to be liked. But most importantly we go to Amy King,

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<v Speaker 1>who mans our eglet Desk here at KFI and a

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<v Speaker 1>great piece of information, great breaking news.

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<v Speaker 2>We got yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on my way home when we found out

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<v Speaker 1>about the third egg amy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and if you check out the live feed now on,

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<v Speaker 3>you can find it on our website kfiam six forty

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<v Speaker 3>dot com slash big Bear Mom is or maybe it's Dad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's either Jackie or Shadow feeding the two

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<v Speaker 3>egglts right now. But that gives us prime viewing for

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<v Speaker 3>that third egg which is pipping. There is a big

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<v Speaker 3>old hole in the egg and you can see you

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<v Speaker 3>can see that third egglet trying to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you can also watch the babies who are

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<v Speaker 3>much bigger and fluffier than when they first came out.

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<v Speaker 3>They are vicious, little, vicious little egglets. I guess they're

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<v Speaker 3>not eglets anywhere, they're eglits.

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<v Speaker 4>But and it's what they do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's establishing that pecking order. I mean, that's like a

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<v Speaker 3>literal thing. And they just peck each other and bite

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<v Speaker 3>each other because they want to be the first one

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<v Speaker 3>to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty disgusting what I'm watching right now. Got live

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on either Jackie or Shadow feeding what's left of

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<v Speaker 1>this fish? You've got Jackie, your shadow's two fish Karkai

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<v Speaker 1>carcasses and yeah, I don't know if that's the word,

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<v Speaker 1>but it felt fun. Shack e r shadow is ripping

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<v Speaker 1>the flesh out of what remains of this fish, chewing

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<v Speaker 1>it up and then regurgitating it into the mouths of

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<v Speaker 1>these baby eglets. Listen, this is not for the faint

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<v Speaker 1>of heart. It is nature but beautiful. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>fish and the blood and the guts coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>this fish. This shadow just puts her beacon there and

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<v Speaker 1>just chomp, chomp, chomps, and then bites it up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. The raw flesh of the fish. And those

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<v Speaker 1>little eaglets, they are adorable. They're very furry, they're very fluffy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, the sibling rivalry is there. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the eglets just tried to take a bite out of

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<v Speaker 1>the other eglt's head.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they do that. They do that quite often. And

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<v Speaker 3>then like I said, do you see that egg and

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<v Speaker 3>how much.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the third egle?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>See, because because you know what that eglet that's still

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<v Speaker 1>in the egg with like its little head out. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this this eglet might come out right now, like

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<v Speaker 1>this eglet might be cause it's its fur is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of peeking through that little hole in the egg shell.

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<v Speaker 1>But what that eglet is smelling is the smell, the

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<v Speaker 1>delicious smell, the wafting aroma of the carry on flesh

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<v Speaker 1>of the fish.

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<v Speaker 3>And did you see so yesterday they had that big

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<v Speaker 3>it's like they filled the freezer because Shadow brought this

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<v Speaker 3>ginormous fish and just left it. And so there was

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<v Speaker 3>blood all over the nest and then Jackie got up

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<v Speaker 3>and threw the head off the edge of the of

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<v Speaker 3>the uh of the nest and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just fascinating to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think a lot of you have tuned in

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<v Speaker 3>after listening to and talk about this because there's like

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<v Speaker 3>ninety five thousand people watching this right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It was funny John came in here yesterday before his show,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we've got nineteen television screens up here

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<v Speaker 1>because Gary was high maintenance and asked for them. And

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<v Speaker 1>John comes and he points to the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, what's that? What are they eating? What is

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<v Speaker 2>that bloody thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everyone's fixated on this, this camera, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean part of it is is because it's a feel

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<v Speaker 1>good story.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got babies being born. Everybody loves that.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got that aspect of nature which is just so

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<v Speaker 1>raw and so elemental and wonderful to behold and to

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<v Speaker 1>learn about as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's also the.

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<v Speaker 1>Perverse part of our little lizard brain that's into watching

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<v Speaker 1>animals eat each other, you know, for survival. I think

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things play out. So Jackie and Shat

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<v Speaker 1>are Jackie or Shadow. We don't know which one this is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Shadow, this is Shadow. Shadow is the dad, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is now settled in on He's fed the babies,

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<v Speaker 3>and now he's settled in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's time for a nap.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's mom at? Where's Jackie? She had a facial or something.

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<v Speaker 3>She's getting a little respite from the nest because she

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<v Speaker 3>was with them pretty much all day yesterday during the snowstorm.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't leave the nest much. Wow, Okay, good for her.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's having a little me time, having a little

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<v Speaker 1>meat time. Coming up a little bit later, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be talking about somebody who works on this nest,

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<v Speaker 1>the friends of Big Bear Valley. They have a big

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<v Speaker 1>weekend ahead of them because, as you know, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>more weather coming in and it is a very precarious

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<v Speaker 1>time for these baby eglts. And yes, Jackie in shadow

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<v Speaker 1>are veterans, they are experienced parents. They know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, there are precautions to take

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to keeping these little eaglets safe. So

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<v Speaker 1>we will get into all of that coming up next.

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<v Speaker 1>Doge may not be moving things, moving fast and breaking

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<v Speaker 1>things anymore when it comes to the federal government. The

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<v Speaker 1>president backtracking today when it comes to cutting government blowed

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<v Speaker 1>at least getting a little bit more particular about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems maybe listening to some of the negative feedback.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary will be back Monday. PS. You know where Gary

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<v Speaker 1>has been? Oh man, I was gonna say he's been

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<v Speaker 1>in Big Bear. I thought he was in Big Bear

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. In my mind, he's been in Mammoth.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's public knowledge, but it is now.

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<v Speaker 1>But for a moment there, because they went to Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bear last time, I thought that they were in Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bear and I had this like fan fiction narrative running

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<v Speaker 1>that he and the wife were there because of the

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<v Speaker 1>Eglitz and like they were there with the nest the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time, and then it all got ruined when it

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<v Speaker 1>just dawned on me that they were in Mammoth. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they found some Eglitz there. I don't know, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be back on Monday. Did we get somebody

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Amy and or Eglitz?

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<v Speaker 2>Jacob, he Shannon and Amy.

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<v Speaker 6>Just listening to you guys to leasa here. I've been

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<v Speaker 6>watching these eagles forever and.

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<v Speaker 4>Amy, how do you know which one's shadow and which.

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<v Speaker 2>One's jack Good? Probably so true.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody in my office we have them on off the

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<v Speaker 3>computer screens and the TV.

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<v Speaker 5>This amazing show that.

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<v Speaker 6>They're explaining for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Help us out. Let us know how you guys can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent question, Lisa, Amy, how do you how can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell the difference?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So Jackie is larger than shadow, and Shadow is more.

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<v Speaker 3>His head is flatter. Seriously, the top of his head

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit flatter. And now there's a telltale

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<v Speaker 3>sign that didn't used to be there. But Jackie now

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<v Speaker 3>has a spot above her I believe it's her.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a right eye? Yeah, it's a it's above

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<v Speaker 4>her right eye.

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<v Speaker 3>That they think it's sap or something, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely there, so you you know immediately it's her.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So how quickly before these eagles get back at

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<v Speaker 1>it and make new babies? Like, what's the time frame

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<v Speaker 1>before they start, you know, having their marital bliss times again?

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<v Speaker 3>Jackie and Shadow? Yeah, they do this every year. Every

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<v Speaker 3>year they make babies. They've tried. Remember last year they

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<v Speaker 3>laid three eggs and no babies. Yeah, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>year before and there've been several you know where they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't survived and that kind of stuff. Their chances of

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<v Speaker 3>surviving are fifty percent. Do eaglits just do this until

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<v Speaker 3>they die? Do they just procreate until they die? Or

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<v Speaker 3>does somebody hit the change?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>But they live to be thirty or more years old?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like amy that we realize that you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell the difference between Jackie and Shadow? And then I

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<v Speaker 1>just decided that you know everything about eglitz and eagles

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<v Speaker 1>and everything about how.

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<v Speaker 2>Their bodies work.

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<v Speaker 4>That's okay, I'll pretend to be an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we will stay on top of this again.

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<v Speaker 1>The third egg has a massive hole in it and

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<v Speaker 1>that EGLT is pippin to get out. His appearance is imminent. Yes, imminent,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, imminent. So stay right here. We will do

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<v Speaker 1>live play by play of this birth words. I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought I would say. Okay, So President Trump now has

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<v Speaker 1>directed cabinet secretaries to use a scalpel rather than a

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<v Speaker 1>hatchet to make personnel cuts. This was a shocker to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I've underestimated this president. I thought he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it's my way or the highway, and I'm on a

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<v Speaker 1>one way mind, in one way track in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to whatever it is, I want accomplished.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you listen to his detractors, that's the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of words that they have used, that he's using

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<v Speaker 1>a sledgehammer or a hatchet rather than a scalpel when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to deputizing Elon Musk to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>government bloat that this is the way things work in

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley, move fast, break things, but that when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to government, it can't work that way for a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of reasons. If you're listening, you're not in government.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in government. The reason that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a government job one of the many number one, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>never hire me. But number two, I don't like minutia.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like protocol. I don't like bureaucracy. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been into following all the rules or reading all the emails.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so antithetical to like what I believe in

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<v Speaker 4>I too cannot tell them apart, but I am rooting

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<v Speaker 4>for them and turning it on in our family room

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<v Speaker 4>every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>Shannon, Shannon, I almost drove.

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<v Speaker 2>Off the roads.

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<v Speaker 5>You asked, do the eaglests do it until they die

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fair question because there's been a lot of eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's been like fourteen different eggs. Anyway, what

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<v Speaker 1>have you? We will stay on top of the ag,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Jackie and Shadow. Have you heard about the

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<v Speaker 1>new generation? It already has a name. This is pretty stupid. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>You're thinking, where's the waterfall? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know where, and nobody knows where the hell that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like when all the moms went to work

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<v Speaker 2>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a new generation here and it has arrived

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<v Speaker 1>on January first, and it is called generation Beta. Not

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<v Speaker 1>Yet people have laid in these labels with characterizations because

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<v Speaker 1>None of that's going to mean anything to us. These

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<v Speaker 1>Both of these terms are a broad part of abroad

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's stupid and that's definitely not going to

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<v Speaker 2>Just call them what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Call them, like the Zoom generation, the kids that had

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<v Speaker 1>The latch that all stuff makes sense the alpha beta

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<v Speaker 2>It's like hurricanes. They should have they should have good

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<v Speaker 2>Chilling text messages.

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<v Speaker 1>You have reached the well what has become the law

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<v Speaker 1>of Brad Sigmund will be the first ever by a

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<v Speaker 1>to know someone's evil. Twelve is enough to know better

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<v Speaker 1>than stabbing someone nineteen times in the woods, luring them

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<v Speaker 1>a little girl like that, My God. Anyway, Michael Monks

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<v Speaker 1>desk coming up after Amy's news at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>We all remember this.

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<v Speaker 1>Four University of Idaho students stabbed and killed in a

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<v Speaker 1>who responded was Bethany, and no one called nine to

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<v Speaker 1>one one until more than seven hours later. That was

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<v Speaker 1>always the weird thing, But when you think about a

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<v Speaker 1>college party house everyone admitting there had been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of drinking going on, that can kind of explain away

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<v Speaker 1>that seven hour lack of action. Dylan, who had seen

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<v Speaker 1>this masked figure in the house, told Bethany by text

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<v Speaker 1>that no one is answering when the question came up,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll wear the other roommates. She describes seeing someone wearing

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a ski mask, and Bethany told Dylan run

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<v Speaker 1>downstairs so they can be together. She texted her, it's

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<v Speaker 1>better than being alone. This was a mystery from go

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<v Speaker 1>what were the two surviving roommates doing, And now we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, prosecutors have charged this guy, thirty years old

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<v Speaker 1>now with murdering the four victims. They were found in

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<v Speaker 1>two bedrooms in this college town of Moscow, Idaho. Trial

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<v Speaker 1>is scheduled to start in August. At the time, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy was a PhD student in criminology at Washington State University.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about twenty minutes away from this college town. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>we heard little about the actions of the two surviving roommates,

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<v Speaker 1>but now we know that, according to Dylan's account, she

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<v Speaker 1>heard noises, saw that masked man, and texted around the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Recent court records have offered more detail. Dylan told law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement officers she had been drunk and she was struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to determine what was real and what was a dream.

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<v Speaker 1>That at one point she saw that person in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>She thought that was a firefighter up after seeing him,

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<v Speaker 1>she went to Bethany's room and the two fell asleep.

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<v Speaker 2>These are according to court records.

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<v Speaker 1>After the initial round of texts at ten twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>after she woke up, she sent more messages to her

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs roommates asking if either one of them were awake,

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<v Speaker 1>are you up please answer. Later, one of the friends

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the house and discovers the body of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the victims.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when nine one one was finally called.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone on the call, by the way, reports that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the rooms mates was drunk last night and won't

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<v Speaker 1>wake up. Well, that roommate wasn't just hungover, she was dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Police officers arrive and they find that gruesome scene. Four

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<v Speaker 1>people found dead. They don't know any prior connections still

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<v Speaker 1>between the stabber and the victims. They found that knife

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<v Speaker 1>sheath on the bed next to one of the victims

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<v Speaker 1>that matched the blood. The blood on the sheath matched

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<v Speaker 1>the blood of the guy they've got for this, Brian Coburger. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>his lawyers have tried to say, well, he's got autism

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<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to get the death penalty off the

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<v Speaker 1>table because of it, Like autism makes you stab and

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<v Speaker 1>kill for strangers, give me a break, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, Michael Monks will join us. Why

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<v Speaker 1>is this jury having such a hard time convicting this

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<v Speaker 1>judge from Orange County who all but confessed to shooting

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<v Speaker 1>and killing his wife just moments after Who did he

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<v Speaker 1>tell a vagrant on the street. No, he texted his

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<v Speaker 1>bailiff and his court report instead, I just shot my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't be in tomorrow. What's the problem. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>hang up? Michael Monks will give us all the tails

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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