Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Update on the President. He is
Speaker 1: threatening to place sanctions on Russia today. It was a
Speaker 1: truth social post this morning where he said he is
Speaker 1: strongly considering large scale banking sanctions, sanctions and tariffs on Russia.
Speaker 1: Finding something interesting out about Trump, maybe something new or
Speaker 1: maybe something that we always knew about him, but it
Speaker 1: just feels kind of new, the fact that I think
Speaker 1: that he wants or that he's listening to feedback coming
Speaker 1: up next, another example of this where he's kind of
Speaker 1: backtracking when it comes to doge and the just move
Speaker 1: fast and break everything kind of mentality that he and
Speaker 1: Elon Musk have had when it comes to the federal
Speaker 1: government and cutting the bloat.
Speaker 2: Kind of backtracking there.
Speaker 1: Now he's kind of backtracking on his romance with Putin
Speaker 1: talking about sanctions on Russia. Kind of a little bit
Speaker 1: of a realization that this is a president who does
Speaker 1: listen to the negative things people say and does like
Speaker 1: to be liked. But most importantly we go to Amy King,
Speaker 1: who mans our eglet Desk here at KFI and a
Speaker 1: great piece of information, great breaking news.
Speaker 2: We got yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was on my way home when we found out
Speaker 1: about the third egg amy.
Speaker 3: Yes, and if you check out the live feed now on,
Speaker 3: you can find it on our website kfiam six forty
Speaker 3: dot com slash big Bear Mom is or maybe it's Dad.
Speaker 3: I think it's either Jackie or Shadow feeding the two
Speaker 3: egglts right now. But that gives us prime viewing for
Speaker 3: that third egg which is pipping. There is a big
Speaker 3: old hole in the egg and you can see you
Speaker 3: can see that third egglet trying to get out.
Speaker 4: It's so cool.
Speaker 3: And then you can also watch the babies who are
Speaker 3: much bigger and fluffier than when they first came out.
Speaker 3: They are vicious, little, vicious little egglets. I guess they're
Speaker 3: not eglets anywhere, they're eglits.
Speaker 4: But and it's what they do.
Speaker 3: It's establishing that pecking order. I mean, that's like a
Speaker 3: literal thing. And they just peck each other and bite
Speaker 3: each other because they want to be the first one
Speaker 3: to eat.
Speaker 1: It's pretty disgusting what I'm watching right now. Got live
Speaker 1: eyes on either Jackie or Shadow feeding what's left of
Speaker 1: this fish? You've got Jackie, your shadow's two fish Karkai
Speaker 1: carcasses and yeah, I don't know if that's the word,
Speaker 1: but it felt fun. Shack e r shadow is ripping
Speaker 1: the flesh out of what remains of this fish, chewing
Speaker 1: it up and then regurgitating it into the mouths of
Speaker 1: these baby eglets. Listen, this is not for the faint
Speaker 1: of heart. It is nature but beautiful. I mean the
Speaker 1: fish and the blood and the guts coming out of
Speaker 1: this fish. This shadow just puts her beacon there and
Speaker 1: just chomp, chomp, chomps, and then bites it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. The raw flesh of the fish. And those
Speaker 1: little eaglets, they are adorable. They're very furry, they're very fluffy.
Speaker 1: And you're right, the sibling rivalry is there. One of
Speaker 1: the eglets just tried to take a bite out of
Speaker 1: the other eglt's head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do that. They do that quite often. And
Speaker 3: then like I said, do you see that egg and
Speaker 3: how much.
Speaker 4: Of the third egle?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: See, because because you know what that eglet that's still
Speaker 1: in the egg with like its little head out. I
Speaker 1: mean this this eglet might come out right now, like
Speaker 1: this eglet might be cause it's its fur is kind
Speaker 1: of peeking through that little hole in the egg shell.
Speaker 1: But what that eglet is smelling is the smell, the
Speaker 1: delicious smell, the wafting aroma of the carry on flesh
Speaker 1: of the fish.
Speaker 3: And did you see so yesterday they had that big
Speaker 3: you know, we had a lot of snow and so
Speaker 3: it's like they filled the freezer because Shadow brought this
Speaker 3: ginormous fish and just left it. And so there was
Speaker 3: blood all over the nest and then Jackie got up
Speaker 3: and threw the head off the edge of the of
Speaker 3: the uh of the nest and stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just fascinating to watch.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of you have tuned in
Speaker 3: after listening to and talk about this because there's like
Speaker 3: ninety five thousand people watching this right now.
Speaker 1: It was funny John came in here yesterday before his show,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've got nineteen television screens up here
Speaker 1: because Gary was high maintenance and asked for them. And
Speaker 1: John comes and he points to the screen.
Speaker 2: He's like, what's that? What are they eating? What is
Speaker 2: that bloody thing?
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone's fixated on this, this camera, and I
Speaker 1: mean part of it is is because it's a feel
Speaker 1: good story.
Speaker 2: You've got babies being born. Everybody loves that.
Speaker 1: You've got that aspect of nature which is just so
Speaker 1: raw and so elemental and wonderful to behold and to
Speaker 1: learn about as well.
Speaker 2: And then there's also the.
Speaker 1: Perverse part of our little lizard brain that's into watching
Speaker 1: animals eat each other, you know, for survival. I think
Speaker 1: all of those things play out. So Jackie and Shat
Speaker 1: are Jackie or Shadow. We don't know which one this is.
Speaker 1: This is Shadow, this is Shadow. Shadow is the dad, Okay.
Speaker 3: And he is now settled in on He's fed the babies,
Speaker 3: and now he's settled in.
Speaker 4: It's time for a nap.
Speaker 2: Where's mom at? Where's Jackie? She had a facial or something.
Speaker 3: She's getting a little respite from the nest because she
Speaker 3: was with them pretty much all day yesterday during the snowstorm.
Speaker 1: She didn't leave the nest much. Wow, Okay, good for her.
Speaker 1: So she's having a little me time, having a little
Speaker 1: meat time. Coming up a little bit later, we're going
Speaker 1: to be talking about somebody who works on this nest,
Speaker 1: the friends of Big Bear Valley. They have a big
Speaker 1: weekend ahead of them because, as you know, we've got
Speaker 1: more weather coming in and it is a very precarious
Speaker 1: time for these baby eglts. And yes, Jackie in shadow
Speaker 1: are veterans, they are experienced parents. They know what to do.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are precautions to take
Speaker 1: when it comes to keeping these little eaglets safe. So
Speaker 1: we will get into all of that coming up next.
Speaker 1: Doge may not be moving things, moving fast and breaking
Speaker 1: things anymore when it comes to the federal government. The
Speaker 1: president backtracking today when it comes to cutting government blowed
Speaker 1: at least getting a little bit more particular about it.
Speaker 1: It seems maybe listening to some of the negative feedback.
Speaker 6: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 6: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Gary will be back Monday. PS. You know where Gary
Speaker 1: has been? Oh man, I was gonna say he's been
Speaker 1: in Big Bear. I thought he was in Big Bear
Speaker 1: for a minute. In my mind, he's been in Mammoth.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's public knowledge, but it is now.
Speaker 1: But for a moment there, because they went to Big
Speaker 1: Bear last time, I thought that they were in Big
Speaker 1: Bear and I had this like fan fiction narrative running
Speaker 1: that he and the wife were there because of the
Speaker 1: Eglitz and like they were there with the nest the
Speaker 1: whole time, and then it all got ruined when it
Speaker 1: just dawned on me that they were in Mammoth. But
Speaker 1: maybe they found some Eglitz there. I don't know, but anyway,
Speaker 1: he will be back on Monday. Did we get somebody
Speaker 1: talking about Amy and or Eglitz?
Speaker 2: Jacob, he Shannon and Amy.
Speaker 6: Just listening to you guys to leasa here. I've been
Speaker 6: watching these eagles forever and.
Speaker 4: Amy, how do you know which one's shadow and which.
Speaker 2: One's jack Good? Probably so true.
Speaker 3: Everybody in my office we have them on off the
Speaker 3: computer screens and the TV.
Speaker 5: This amazing show that.
Speaker 6: They're explaining for us.
Speaker 4: Help us out. Let us know how you guys can tell.
Speaker 1: Excellent question, Lisa, Amy, how do you how can you
Speaker 1: tell the difference?
Speaker 3: Okay, So Jackie is larger than shadow, and Shadow is more.
Speaker 3: His head is flatter. Seriously, the top of his head
Speaker 3: is a little bit flatter. And now there's a telltale
Speaker 3: sign that didn't used to be there. But Jackie now
Speaker 3: has a spot above her I believe it's her.
Speaker 4: Is it a right eye? Yeah, it's a it's above
Speaker 4: her right eye.
Speaker 3: That they think it's sap or something, but it's it's
Speaker 3: definitely there, so you you know immediately it's her.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So how quickly before these eagles get back at
Speaker 1: it and make new babies? Like, what's the time frame
Speaker 1: before they start, you know, having their marital bliss times again?
Speaker 3: Jackie and Shadow? Yeah, they do this every year. Every
Speaker 3: year they make babies. They've tried. Remember last year they
Speaker 3: laid three eggs and no babies. Yeah, and then the
Speaker 3: year before and there've been several you know where they
Speaker 3: haven't survived and that kind of stuff. Their chances of
Speaker 3: surviving are fifty percent. Do eaglits just do this until
Speaker 3: they die? Do they just procreate until they die? Or
Speaker 3: does somebody hit the change?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But they live to be thirty or more years old?
Speaker 1: Do you like amy that we realize that you can
Speaker 1: tell the difference between Jackie and Shadow? And then I
Speaker 1: just decided that you know everything about eglitz and eagles
Speaker 1: and everything about how.
Speaker 2: Their bodies work.
Speaker 4: That's okay, I'll pretend to be an expert.
Speaker 1: All right, so we will stay on top of this again.
Speaker 1: The third egg has a massive hole in it and
Speaker 1: that EGLT is pippin to get out. His appearance is imminent. Yes, imminent,
Speaker 1: you guys, imminent. So stay right here. We will do
Speaker 1: live play by play of this birth words. I never
Speaker 1: thought I would say. Okay, So President Trump now has
Speaker 1: directed cabinet secretaries to use a scalpel rather than a
Speaker 1: hatchet to make personnel cuts. This was a shocker to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe I've underestimated this president. I thought he kind of
Speaker 1: it's my way or the highway, and I'm on a
Speaker 1: one way mind, in one way track in my mind.
Speaker 1: When it comes to whatever it is, I want accomplished.
Speaker 1: But if you listen to his detractors, that's the same
Speaker 1: kind of words that they have used, that he's using
Speaker 1: a sledgehammer or a hatchet rather than a scalpel when
Speaker 1: it comes to deputizing Elon Musk to get rid of
Speaker 1: government bloat that this is the way things work in
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, move fast, break things, but that when it
Speaker 1: comes to government, it can't work that way for a
Speaker 1: variety of reasons. If you're listening, you're not in government.
Speaker 1: I'm not in government. The reason that I don't have
Speaker 1: a government job one of the many number one, they'd
Speaker 1: never hire me. But number two, I don't like minutia.
Speaker 1: I don't like protocol. I don't like bureaucracy. I've never
Speaker 1: been into following all the rules or reading all the emails.
Speaker 1: It's just so antithetical to like what I believe in
Speaker 1: in how I can operate. I am a mess and
Speaker 1: I like things that are messy. Government is not that way.
Speaker 1: In Silicon Valley, it's that way the rules go out
Speaker 1: of the window, just get it done right. But in
Speaker 1: government you kind of have to have protocol. You know,
Speaker 1: managers know this. You have to kind of do things
Speaker 1: by the book for a number of reasons. And it
Speaker 1: seems like now the administration is kind of listening to
Speaker 1: the detractors and saying, all right, well, I mean.
Speaker 2: In their own way, they're giving it.
Speaker 1: He is giving it to the members of the Cabinet,
Speaker 1: which are of course the figureheads of the government agencies,
Speaker 1: and saying that it will be the cabinet secretaries to
Speaker 1: use a scalpel rather than the hatchet of Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: There has been a lot of blowback after waves of
Speaker 1: job cuts have gone into the federal work force. So
Speaker 1: Trump said on a social media post I've instructed the
Speaker 1: secretaries and leadership to work with DOGE on cost cutting
Speaker 1: measures and staffing. He says, as the secretaries learn about
Speaker 1: and understand the people working for the various departments, they
Speaker 1: can be very precise as to who will remain and
Speaker 1: who will go. Now, going back to what Trump said
Speaker 1: before Congress, you hate him, you hate him. He could
Speaker 1: cure cancer, he could do wonderful things, and you would
Speaker 1: not give him credit for it. And Okay, but I'm
Speaker 1: kind of in the camp of I'm going to give
Speaker 1: people credit for good things or good thoughts, no matter
Speaker 1: where they land politically.
Speaker 2: And when he said this, I gave him a point.
Speaker 2: He said, it's very important that.
Speaker 1: We cut levels down to where they should be, but
Speaker 1: it's also important to keep the best and most productive people.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, can't we all agree to that.
Speaker 1: I know it's terri if you work in the federal
Speaker 1: government and you feel like they're just using a hatchet
Speaker 1: willy nilly to get rid of jobs. And there is
Speaker 1: some you know, there's some redundancy. Any job you work in,
Speaker 1: you know there's redundancy. Do you want to see people's
Speaker 1: lives changed and them get fired and it changed the
Speaker 1: course of their families and things that no nobody wants that.
Speaker 1: But if you want a leaner, more efficient government, there's
Speaker 1: going to be pain had. But this backtracking a little
Speaker 1: bit and kind of taking a more nuanced approach, I
Speaker 1: think is a good thing.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: We'll get into more of that coming up and swamp
Speaker 1: watch how that will play off. Also, the tariffs today
Speaker 1: the President kind of threatening Russia with bank sanctions. We'll
Speaker 1: get into that as well. But coming up next. Remember
Speaker 1: that horrific murder in Idaho on the college campus or
Speaker 1: on the college campus housing. That guy who burst into
Speaker 1: that party house and killed fatally, stabbed, stabbed and killed
Speaker 1: four students. Well, there were two survivors, and we've heard
Speaker 1: very little about the survivors, but now we're getting text
Speaker 1: messages the two sent each other inside that house while
Speaker 1: their friends were getting murdered.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about that when we come back.
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Speaker 6: AM six forty.
Speaker 4: I too cannot tell them apart, but I am rooting
Speaker 4: for them and turning it on in our family room
Speaker 4: every single day.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: Shannon, Shannon, I almost drove.
Speaker 2: Off the roads.
Speaker 5: You asked, do the eaglests do it until they die
Speaker 5: or until the change? The change?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Too funny, too funny. This is yet another reason why
Speaker 5: I love you. I love love love KFI. I love
Speaker 5: you guys, we love you too.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a fair question because there's been a lot of eggs.
Speaker 1: I think there's been like fourteen different eggs. Anyway, what
Speaker 1: have you? We will stay on top of the ag,
Speaker 1: just like Jackie and Shadow. Have you heard about the
Speaker 1: new generation? It already has a name. This is pretty stupid. Actually,
Speaker 1: why did generations have names? You know, I can understand
Speaker 1: when the names make sense. It's kind of like naming wildfires.
Speaker 1: You know, they used to name, or they may still
Speaker 1: name wildfires based on ignition points. So if a fire
Speaker 1: was ignited on Waterfall Lane and it's up in, let's
Speaker 1: just say Sierra Madre on Waterfall Lane and they call
Speaker 1: it the waterfall fire, and you're thinking to yourself, the
Speaker 1: waterfall fire.
Speaker 2: You're thinking, where's the waterfall? Right?
Speaker 1: You know where, and nobody knows where the hell that is.
Speaker 1: But if you say the fire in Sierra Madre, it
Speaker 1: was a Chris Little rule. Our news director here for
Speaker 1: a very long time. He had a rule of just say,
Speaker 1: just call the fire of where it is, so we
Speaker 1: know where the hell the fire is. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like generations. When you come up with these generations X
Speaker 1: or Y. What the hell does that mean? How are
Speaker 1: you supposed to know what generation you're talking about when
Speaker 1: you say things like the latch key generation.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: That was like when all the moms went to work
Speaker 1: in the eighties and the kids came home and they
Speaker 1: had the latch key and you were by yourself for
Speaker 1: a few hours.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: But there's a new generation here and it has arrived
Speaker 1: on January first, and it is called generation Beta. Not
Speaker 1: going to go over well because beta these days means
Speaker 1: weak and a bunch of words I can't say on
Speaker 1: the radio, Woosie, I guess is the old school term
Speaker 1: beta just means like this weak stream type dude, I
Speaker 1: think in twenty twenty five, So calling the new generation
Speaker 1: beta probably not going to go well. They say that
Speaker 1: this is a successor to Generation Alpha. Did I miss
Speaker 1: that whole thing? I don't remember generation Alpha. Obviously, it's
Speaker 1: following the conventions of the Greek alpha bet The man
Speaker 1: responsible for this moniker for this whole thing as a
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Mark McCrindle, a social researcher
Speaker 1: and demographer who coined jen alpha. They say his use
Speaker 1: of Greek letters was meant to be systematic and scientific,
Speaker 1: not descriptive or suspicious.
Speaker 2: He said, the terms have no inherent meeting.
Speaker 1: Yet people have laid in these labels with characterizations because
Speaker 1: that's what we do, Mark alpha and beta and sigma.
Speaker 1: None of that's going to mean anything to us. These
Speaker 1: are people in the new generation beta, mostly under the
Speaker 1: age of fourteen, they say. Walk through in elementary or
Speaker 1: middle school, you'll hear jen alpha throwing around beta as
Speaker 1: an insult and sigma as a compliment.
Speaker 2: He says.
Speaker 1: Both of these terms are a broad part of abroad
Speaker 1: and evolving lexicon known as brain rot.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we need to name these things.
Speaker 1: I think it's stupid and that's definitely not going to
Speaker 1: take hold, right, who's gonna who's gonna remember Generation beta
Speaker 1: or what have you?
Speaker 2: Just call them what they are.
Speaker 1: Call them, like the Zoom generation, the kids that had
Speaker 1: to go to school on zoom right, or what have you.
Speaker 1: The latch that all stuff makes sense the alpha beta
Speaker 1: thing makes no sense.
Speaker 2: It's like hurricanes. They should have they should have good
Speaker 2: names for them, not just the letters of the alphabet.
Speaker 2: And that's no fun. All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we will get to the story out of
Speaker 1: Colorado about those text messages between the surviving kids when
Speaker 1: it came to that quadruple murder there at the University
Speaker 1: of Idaho.
Speaker 2: Chilling text messages.
Speaker 6: Really, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
Speaker 6: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: You have reached the well what has become the law
Speaker 1: and order update of your day. South Carolina inmate will
Speaker 1: be put to death today unless it's stopped by the
Speaker 1: Governor Harry McMaster there in South Carolina. This evening's execution
Speaker 1: of Brad Sigmund will be the first ever by a
Speaker 1: firing squad in South Carolina in modern history. First time
Speaker 1: it's been done in fifteen years anywhere. He was found
Speaker 1: guilty of beating his ex girlfriend's parents to death with
Speaker 1: a baseball bat in twenty tw thousand and one because
Speaker 1: she wouldn't go back to him. He has asked for
Speaker 1: the firing squad. He prefers it to lethal injection. There
Speaker 1: also of note in the law and order world. A
Speaker 1: judge says a woman who stabbed her friend years ago
Speaker 1: in an effort to summon the fictional Slenderman can be
Speaker 1: released from a mental institution. We all remember this story
Speaker 1: very troubling. Two little girls now. Woman Morgan Geyser was
Speaker 1: twelve when she and another friend lured a fellow twelve
Speaker 1: year old Peyton into the Wisconsin woods in twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: and stabbed her nineteen times. Peyton survived, and this woman, Morgan,
Speaker 1: now twenty two, was sent to an institution.
Speaker 2: A judge that she can be released.
Speaker 1: They had a hearing on a petition that aimed to
Speaker 1: keep her committed. Three doctors testified that she's well enough
Speaker 1: to let go, to be let go. Now, call me crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't care how old you are. Twelve is enough
Speaker 1: to know better. Twelve is enough to know that you
Speaker 1: to know someone's evil. Twelve is enough to know better
Speaker 1: than stabbing someone nineteen times in the woods, luring them
Speaker 1: there and then stabbing them nineteen times.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you explain that away as childhood's stuff,
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell label they're going to put on that.
Speaker 1: I mean, keeping her inside forever seems severe, but just
Speaker 1: letting her out and about nineteen times a little stabbing
Speaker 1: a little girl like that, My God. Anyway, Michael Monks
Speaker 1: will be joining us for our local law and order
Speaker 1: desk coming up after Amy's news at the top of
Speaker 1: the hour. Jurors still can't make up their mind with
Speaker 1: that Orange County judge who's shot and killed his wife
Speaker 1: after the family went out to dinner. He has a
Speaker 1: couple pops, shoots and kills her, and now the jury
Speaker 1: is very perplexed about what to do. Jury and Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: so we'll get to that as well. But now we're
Speaker 1: hearing from the surviving members of that quadruple stabbing murder
Speaker 1: spree that happened at the University of Idaho.
Speaker 2: We all remember this.
Speaker 1: Four University of Idaho students stabbed and killed in a
Speaker 1: house near the campus. Now we knew there were two survivors,
Speaker 1: two roommates, and now we know that they began urgently
Speaker 1: texting each other after one of them saw a masked
Speaker 1: man moving through the house. One of the girls, Dylan,
Speaker 1: texts her friend upstairs and says, what's going on. The
Speaker 1: friend did not answer, but Dylan was able to make
Speaker 1: contact with a downstairs roommate, Bethany. Bethany texted back, I'm
Speaker 1: freaking out. Bethany and Dylan were the only survivors of
Speaker 1: that stabbing spree, and they began texting back and forth
Speaker 1: shortly before the four thirty am.
Speaker 2: This was just after.
Speaker 1: Dylan saw that masked man walking in the hallway outside
Speaker 1: her bedroom door. This all went down November thirteenth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two, and they believe that these texts are now
Speaker 1: giving new insight into the confusion and the fright of
Speaker 1: the surviving roommates. Apparently they hunkered down in Bethany's room
Speaker 1: until later that morning. As we mentioned, Dylan called or
Speaker 1: texted each of the victims at the same time about
Speaker 1: four thirty am, but received no response. The only one
Speaker 1: who responded was Bethany, and no one called nine to
Speaker 1: one one until more than seven hours later. That was
Speaker 1: always the weird thing, But when you think about a
Speaker 1: college party house everyone admitting there had been a lot
Speaker 1: of drinking going on, that can kind of explain away
Speaker 1: that seven hour lack of action. Dylan, who had seen
Speaker 1: this masked figure in the house, told Bethany by text
Speaker 1: that no one is answering when the question came up,
Speaker 1: we'll wear the other roommates. She describes seeing someone wearing
Speaker 1: almost like a ski mask, and Bethany told Dylan run
Speaker 1: downstairs so they can be together. She texted her, it's
Speaker 1: better than being alone. This was a mystery from go
Speaker 1: what were the two surviving roommates doing, And now we know.
Speaker 1: Of course, prosecutors have charged this guy, thirty years old
Speaker 1: now with murdering the four victims. They were found in
Speaker 1: two bedrooms in this college town of Moscow, Idaho. Trial
Speaker 1: is scheduled to start in August. At the time, this
Speaker 1: guy was a PhD student in criminology at Washington State University.
Speaker 1: This is about twenty minutes away from this college town. Again,
Speaker 1: we heard little about the actions of the two surviving roommates,
Speaker 1: but now we know that, according to Dylan's account, she
Speaker 1: heard noises, saw that masked man, and texted around the house.
Speaker 1: Recent court records have offered more detail. Dylan told law
Speaker 1: enforcement officers she had been drunk and she was struggling
Speaker 1: to determine what was real and what was a dream.
Speaker 1: That at one point she saw that person in the hallway.
Speaker 1: She thought that was a firefighter up after seeing him,
Speaker 1: she went to Bethany's room and the two fell asleep.
Speaker 2: These are according to court records.
Speaker 1: After the initial round of texts at ten twenty three,
Speaker 1: after she woke up, she sent more messages to her
Speaker 1: upstairs roommates asking if either one of them were awake,
Speaker 1: are you up please answer. Later, one of the friends
Speaker 1: comes to the house and discovers the body of one
Speaker 1: of the victims.
Speaker 2: That's when nine one one was finally called.
Speaker 1: Someone on the call, by the way, reports that one
Speaker 1: of the rooms mates was drunk last night and won't
Speaker 1: wake up. Well, that roommate wasn't just hungover, she was dead.
Speaker 1: Police officers arrive and they find that gruesome scene. Four
Speaker 1: people found dead. They don't know any prior connections still
Speaker 1: between the stabber and the victims. They found that knife
Speaker 1: sheath on the bed next to one of the victims
Speaker 1: that matched the blood. The blood on the sheath matched
Speaker 1: the blood of the guy they've got for this, Brian Coburger. Recently,
Speaker 1: his lawyers have tried to say, well, he's got autism
Speaker 1: and they're trying to get the death penalty off the
Speaker 1: table because of it, Like autism makes you stab and
Speaker 1: kill for strangers, give me a break, all right, So
Speaker 1: when we come back, Michael Monks will join us. Why
Speaker 1: is this jury having such a hard time convicting this
Speaker 1: judge from Orange County who all but confessed to shooting
Speaker 1: and killing his wife just moments after Who did he
Speaker 1: tell a vagrant on the street. No, he texted his
Speaker 1: bailiff and his court report instead, I just shot my wife.
Speaker 1: I won't be in tomorrow. What's the problem. What's the
Speaker 1: hang up? Michael Monks will give us all the tails
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