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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome.
Speaker 2: Thanks for getting your pot on. Thanks for telling a friend.
We're happy because the Bills. I don't know if they
had a better team that they were facing the fid
of I don't know. It was a shaky start in
my mind. We'll have a lot of talk this week
about it, but they won forty to nine in the end.
Today I've invited my son Jamison in, and I wanted
to talk because Jamison's got Jamison. He gets upset with
me when I say these things, but I think he
is one of the funniest people I know, and I
think he is super super creative. And one of the
things Jamison really likes to do, and I always say, like,
the more you do it, the better you get, and
he's getting better and better at it is write rap
songs and I thought it would be an interesting thing
to just talk to you about, not just the rap music,
but basketball, being a kid, all this stuff. But let
me ask you this your creative process when you're writing
a rap song, Where do the ideas come from? How
do you choose your beats? And kind of what is
the inspiration for you in all things? We'll start, I
guess with your creative spot process. Where do the ideas
come from?
Speaker 1: It depend on like a situation going on in my life,
so they're almost autobiographical.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or mental health recently, But other songs, like my
aggressive songs, probably stem from anger or problems I.
Speaker 1: Have with people. Or it's a great way to get
it out my past. Yeah. Does it feel good when
you get it out? Is it sort of cathartic? Yeah?
I like listening to it after it, so you do.
That's something that motivates me to finish it too, because
I'm like, I don't want to listen to this later.
So do do you share it with friends? Do you
put it anywhere?
Speaker 4: To the people are my close friends? But you kind
of I publish it, but I'm working on something right now.
I don't what do you mean I'm working on, Like
an album, okay, but.
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Like you seem to keep this I'll use the term
close to the vest right. You seem to kind of
keep it quiet. Do a lot of your friends? Are
they aware?
Speaker 3: And know?
Speaker 1: Everybody in my school knows, Like people in my classes
sing my lyrics and call me JASO.
Speaker 2: That's gonna feel fa like all the time. That's got
to feel pretty good. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I know some really popular rappers from Rochester who are
some popular rappers because I do K.
Speaker 4: Nephew, RX Poppy, Little Perko, rich Baby North, you know future. Yeah,
rich Baby North has signed a future. Little Perko signed
a little Dirk, you know Little Dirk, whether if you
don't remember or not. RX K Nephews just made a
bunch of popular tiktoks on say, with RX Poppy, what else.
Speaker 1: Do we have?
Speaker 4: Slump Success is really popular, really used to be really
popular in the underground, like really crazy popular, like innovated
a lot of rap and he's only like nineteen.
Speaker 1: When when you say innovative a lot of raps.
Speaker 4: Like underground, he made his whole own genre, like what
it's called rage. It's crazy, but it's not like Crin's
it's some really good music. It's from Grease. He went
to Odyssey, but someone I knew threw like a water
bottle at him one time and he got knocked out.
Speaker 1: The person that threw it, Yeah, no, him Swamp the Rapper.
Speaker 4: So like anytime he talks tough on the internet, I
always just remember, I'm like, bro, you got beat up
by my friend one time.
Speaker 1: Who is your friend? It doesn't matter. I think it's
my friend e j or Jordan. Okay, Well, why what so?
Speaker 4: This is kids getting into fights sometimes, dude, it's not bad.
Everybody has gotten into a fight. You've gotten into fights before.
Speaker 1: When you were younger. I know you have. What do
you mean you've never gotten into a fight when you
were younger?
Speaker 5: Ever?
Speaker 1: Once? That's a lie. Always a gentleman, okay, always a gentleman.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I know people in the audience have probably
gotten into fights when they were younger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, may probably recently grown men. That happens and women.
Speaker 2: I don't like the you worry about fights today because
you don't know who's holding what else?
Speaker 1: Why do you roll your eyes because it's like it's
not gonna happen in school? Maybe in Greece but would
you like to play any of any of your music?
That's up to you. When I have with my friend
e J. What do you mean your friend J? My
friend J. I have a song you collaborated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so he's at the beginning and I'm at that.
It's okay, you turn it up playing yep, I can
turn it up right.
Speaker 1: Here there it is. Remember all the first part is
not me. I'm not saying as childe bass right. Yeah,
you girling in bad as like a clown, you.
Speaker 5: Man, because we got your base and she ticket photos,
gives you post on the grounds and me and my bros.
Speaker 1: Has around like we don't want her. Yeah, all we
want is arning seeing David. Is that that's all we understand.
You down to make them, dude, those that's my that's me. Yeah,
I didn't know about around with you put my make
all the dress left the bank and the sting. I
just loves old. I was riding with the beans on
the bank though, riding with.
Speaker 5: My band when my wodies in the cut and they're
gonna show it if I say something know nothing about always.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna bring it down a little bit. Okay,
Well I do you're right, I get concerned because if
there's talk of violence in the Yeah, yeah, I mean
what why.
Speaker 4: Because there's this stuff I used to be around, not
by like force to be around. It was definitely my choice.
I had no business doing that stuff, but it was
I don't know, I just would hang around those people
cause was mad at the world. So I was like,
I need to figure out a way to just channel
it out and just take all my anger out on
just not one person, but just almost an entity, like
just just everything around me. I just want to be
mad at like just almost hit that. I don't know
how to explain it, like the universe. I just want
to punch it with every decision I make.
Speaker 1: So back then, I'll just make every decision I make.
Was was when was this all? Right? A couple of
years ago, like two three years ago, three four years ago?
So this was it all started when I was like ten,
But you were living down south then, No, I was
in the city, right. But then when you're saying two
three years ago you were in two three four years ago?
Speaker 2: You were in the South, Yeah, yeah, And you were
saying there you were hanging out with Yeah, okay, we'll.
Speaker 1: Leave it there. But I I think there's a we
can do.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, instead of my regular close out song,
we'll close out with one of yours.
Speaker 1: How's that? Does that sound good? Yeah? Sounds cool? All right?
I can't give them a little taste, like just a
short of my unreleased music, of.
Speaker 2: Your unreleased music? Is there one that you think would
be appropriate and not too offensive to anybody or anything?
And I'm not trying to Yeah, if there is one,
give a little taste right here, it's gone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm seven, Km'm in the rock. I'm in
its subid think you know your baby, I'm not feeling
a lot this time. My first I'm thinking of you
love with thinking that you're throwing mix things, shoving me
so crazy.
Speaker 1: As we're talking this week day. And if not, will
you be my lady talking to you through the phone.
It hurt me because you're so far away. I want
to book us tickets, think us just.
Speaker 2: Go fly away or you can come to rock I
get the whipping, which is right away?
Speaker 1: Are you playing my face? Baby? Okay? Who's that about this? Girls?
Speaker 2: Bro to just just in general or it sounds like
someone specific, just in general, because it sounds like someone
that doesn't live here, and that you're gonna you want
her to come here and you want her to fly away.
Speaker 1: Or okay, all right, well I just heard the lyrics.
I just heard them. Basketball. I saw Fitch today at work,
you did, I talked to him, Coach Fitche and what
are you saying?
Speaker 4: I wait to see my Kobe's and then I'm welcome
to the workouts right now, Like I'm in engineering all
of my music by myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you love it? Yeah, I love doing it. Yeah.
I learned how to do it just on your own. Yeah,
isn't that fun?
Speaker 2: That's the technology stuff that I'm talking about that didn't
exist now, not for me, And I don't know that
it was really around when Jackson and Jordan came through.
Speaker 1: I could show you.
Speaker 4: Wait, let me show you how much better I've gotten, guys,
let me show you my way old account, Like this
isn't even my oldest account. Okay, Like, look how young
I look in the profile picture fresh off the plane?
Speaker 1: A voice. Two. You'll hear the change of my voice.
Speaker 4: You probably haven't even noticed, like because I've just grown
with you. That's how I've noticed from my friends, Like
I've grown with my friends too much. I don't even
remember what made like they've always done like this, but
I haven't yell it's a lot already.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that you? That's you? Yeah? I got this
from all right. You sound like Justin Bieber, like young
when you were saying you do like that's all I'll
show you. I can't show them my oldest song ever. Yes,
you can show the oldest song. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Al Right, here's where my oldest like my old band lab.
I'm gonna show them my oldest song and my oldest
band lab song. So when I really this was made
on a PlayStation party.
Speaker 1: Right now the made back smoke, this is boy, and
put your stuff back.
Speaker 4: I've been talking about the same stuff since I was ten,
So this isn't like just me trying to be someone
who I'm not.
Speaker 1: This is I've been like this some ten all right,
So this is my oldest said so funny. This is
literally my oldest band lap song ever.
Speaker 4: Probably get writing with my dad.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Like I've came a long way.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, and I agree me. Uh, I want
to give you a little quiz. Maybe you can help
people out. We hear slang words from people your age.
All right, can you explain what does it mean when
someone says something is.
Speaker 1: Riz like game?
Speaker 4: We don't even say that anymore. You don't say rizy.
Speaker 1: See. I always thought riz was like charisma. That's where
it stems from. And you didn't think that. Yeah, I
did found that out. It's on No, no, no, no,
I always thought it was charisma. Let me see the
paper right here, there's just questions. No, come here, what
is it? Is it questions or does it have the answers? No,
it doesn't have the answers. You didn't look it up.
What I always thought charisma meant riz like meant charisma.
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just trying to interpret. Tell me, uh,
if a friend says that is fire or that's oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fire like, that's tough. But in Rochester we
say that's flock like, that's flock.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you don't say fire. We say fire and
we say flock. That's a New York term. Flock. Okay,
that's flock. That's how about? What does it mean to cap? Captain?
You're lying, bro okay, cap? And what's something that's no
cap no cap, no lies, no bap okay, no cap
so truth yeah, or like where to my mother? Or
like where to my mom's? Where to bro? Oh god?
How about low key low key? Everybody knows that low key?
Like I don't. I don't want to do that, like
quietly secretly low key.
Speaker 4: That's tough, bro Like, that's slick, tough, like I ain't
gonna lie like I'm basically means like I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Slide into d m s. Anybody say that in your world?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess yeah, yeah, I mean it just means
to kind of get into someone's private messages, right, yeah,
yeah took an.
Speaker 1: Ol take an now you took it out? You lost? Yeah,
you lost? What does it mean when a song or
a moment is called a banger?
Speaker 4: A banger that's fire like the same thing as fire, Like,
that's fire, that's good, that's tough, amazing great. The fact
that I use the definition of a banger as fire,
it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay. How about if someone says sheesh, I won't say
that anymore.
Speaker 4: You don't know that wasn't that's not even lingo Okay,
nobody says that. Alright, I'm just gonna give you. I'm
next time, I'm going to give you lingo.
Speaker 1: All right, how about mid.
Speaker 4: Mid everybody knows that's just that's not even slang mid
like it's mid average average.
Speaker 1: Great, all right, I want to give you ones from
the eighties and nineties. I'm gonna know what these means,
you think? So? Yeah? All right? Rad People still say
rad like it's fire. That's nowadays we turn that into
fire good. Uh what does it mean when someone used
to say psych psych? We still say psych? You do really? Yes?
Like just kidding, tricking. I don't even know how to
use the definition, just like psych. Everybody knows what that means. Psych.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Here's one that I don't think you've ever heard. You
can figure it out. I think it was more of
a nineties term. All that and a bag of chips.
We still say all that in a bag of chips.
That's a Southern term now, like that's a not to
be that guy. You don't think I'm racist. That's a
that's kind of black people term too?
Speaker 1: Is it urban? A little bit? Just a little bit,
don't Okay, okay, okay, nobody's getting on nobody's getting on you.
Nobody's getting on you Bogart.
Speaker 4: Sadian, What does it mean to bogart something like amp
it up more than it really is?
Speaker 1: No, this is good.
Speaker 2: It means to hog it to like take all of it, okay,
don't put a real term. Yes, I always think that
you are extremely funny when you want.
Speaker 1: To be okay, you may someone die laughing the network.
You did tell me about that. Do you mind? You
work at Wegmans. So this lady who was like, obviously
had some money. Yes, she was done buying.
Speaker 4: And today we're doing a if you're going to Wegmans,
please go donate or round up or donate your own
specific amount to check Out for Hunger. One hundred percent
of the donations go to check Out for Hunger and
it just is you know.
Speaker 1: What sounds like, it's that's great. So you also get
a bingo table, so.
Speaker 4: Like you check out the amounts and you'll get a
prize after for getting donations for Checkout for Hunger. So
this lady was like, no, I'm fine, And before she left,
I was like, I hope you remember that when you
go to sleep at night, and she was dying and
she said thank you.
Speaker 1: For the laugh, and I was it. She said no
to check out for hunger, And I was like, hope
you remember that when you go to sleep tonight. Why
would you say that? And I was trying to make
her laugh laugh, What did you say in a funny way? No?
I was like, I hope you remember that when you
go to sleep at night. And she just laughed. Yeah,
she knows I was joking.
Speaker 2: She knew you were joking. Okay, do you you interact
with the customers pretty if I feel like it? Yeah,
if you feel like it. Are there some that you
just like some.
Speaker 1: Days I just don't talk to anybody. I'm just trying
to get through.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Uh let me give you some scenarios.
Can we do some scenarios because I'm thinking, like, since
you've been there, like you've had to have some funny things,
funny things that have happened with customers.
Speaker 4: Like things I've seen, bro, Like what do you what
have you seen? I've seen someone come in not on
Halloween and no wizard's outfit okay, not even like he
was a magician, just came in with a cloak. Thousands
of south would be a whole different story.
Speaker 2: Someone shows up with a great big binder of coupons,
asking if each one is still valid from two thousand.
Speaker 1: My manager over and she's gonna then they're gonna go
fix her. But I'm not dealing, all right, But you wouldn't.
You wouldn't. You wouldn't try to You're not doing it,
not dealing with that, okay. But they come with a
bunch of coupons and I'm just gonna scan with my
skang and that's not a problem. Okay, Yeah, that's not
a case. It passes the.
Speaker 4: Time to like it makes it longer, so I'm just
able to shift goes by faster.
Speaker 1: The customer holds up a strange fruit or vegetable, I
go to the produce chart, or I call my manager over,
okay and says to you, what even is this? That's
what they say? Yeah, can I eat it raw? What
do you? What do you say to them? What the
fuck are you gonna do? Cook it? Like? I don't know,
go I'm gonna call my manager over. You are, Yeah,
you wouldn't make up a funny story like oh.
Speaker 4: My god, I probably would that I've done that before, okay,
Like what like someone gave me their ID for alcohol
and be my brother, this is a fake I can't
take it go believe.
Speaker 1: They're like what. I'm like, I'm just trying. I've done
so many times you have yeah. Or I'll be like
we have the same birthday and they're like really, I'm like, no, okay,
but what about oh my god, we have the same name. Really,
I've done that. I've been like, you see how you
got happy though. I know you were a little upset
and coming in here, but how do you think we
did here? We did good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't you close it out with one of
your songs that you want to play and we'll wrap
it up. And I appreciate you giving me some some
of this time, and uh, we'll we'll continue to try
to grow together, play my my.
Speaker 1: Song after Like, I don't know how long was it
June to September? How many months is that? June to
September is about four four month break for music? Okay,
it's just.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, it's not mom my phone
and says she missing, and she prouded me. I'll young
myself inside of my room to fix my craft and
melodies on the breakway when I think of us and
fight back remedies and the code to get his greening.
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