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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>All right, here we go five o'clock hour here on

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for hanging out with us.

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<v Speaker 2>It is coffee and company and we are fueled by

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but even if they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>right now you can get three Monster Indergy drinks for

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<v Speaker 2>just seven bucks. But how about this, This has got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a newer promotion unless I just haven't paid

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<v Speaker 2>attention to it. I'm not a big red Bull guy

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<v Speaker 2>like red Bull, but red Bull often reminds me of

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<v Speaker 2>bad nights drinking alcohol where red Bull was mixed and

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<v Speaker 2>ended up mixed in a drink with another drink it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like, and it just you know, paid for it

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<v Speaker 2>the next day. So do you have any is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that that's non out alcoholic Austin for you

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<v Speaker 2>that make reminds you of a bad night drinking that

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<v Speaker 2>you just kind of stay away from.

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<v Speaker 4>No, But for for me, it's if anything, it's vodka,

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<v Speaker 4>like just a taste of vodka.

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>The boost for me is tequila.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to mixing, which I now know

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't drink much liquor, but the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you drink something that is of high quality and

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it with just water, or you do

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<v Speaker 2>it like by itself and you slowly sip. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more potent clearly, and it'll put you on

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<v Speaker 2>your ear end if you're not sure monitoring how much

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<v Speaker 2>you're drinking. But it is a much smoother experience, like

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<v Speaker 2>all the sugar with like coke, Like I remember one time,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I realized, like bourbon, if you get a

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<v Speaker 2>good one and you know you're in a bourbon mood

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<v Speaker 2>and you can you can monitor the intake level and

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<v Speaker 2>you do mixing water as well, or you just have

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<v Speaker 2>like a big like I've seen people with like the

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<v Speaker 2>humongous balls of.

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<v Speaker 3>Ice that they just put in a cup and those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and over time, you know, your your bourbon becomes

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit watery, but that takes a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so what it's supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And also you know you're not mixing in that sugary

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<v Speaker 2>soda that can make it to where you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>feeling it even worse the next day.

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<v Speaker 4>Ginger Ale is always a good throw win for that

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<v Speaker 4>little old Forester and ginger Ale. That was my young

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<v Speaker 4>young twenty twenty three to like twenty. It's not a

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<v Speaker 4>bad mix right there. No, that's old Forester and ginger Ale.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the constant going out drink.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, red Bull, I mean vodka and Red Bull. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good like And I don't, gosh, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>think the last time I had a vodka Red Bull

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<v Speaker 2>was that was in Vegas, which was at least three

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<v Speaker 2>four weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Appropriate place to have that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, we've just been hanging out and had enough

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<v Speaker 2>beer and I just wanted to mix it up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. And vodka in Red Bull for me is

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate not really knowing what I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 2>of like, you know, a little bit of a buzz,

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<v Speaker 2>or if I'm going to be tipsy, but also feeling

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<v Speaker 2>like I can go run a marathon. It gives me

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<v Speaker 2>like a you know, a real jolt at times. And

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<v Speaker 2>then sometimes I've had multiple vodka Red Bulls at night

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<v Speaker 3>Why did you mix?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you why did you go to liquor after

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<v Speaker 2>drinking beer? And then other times I wake up as

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<v Speaker 2>if I didn't even realize that I drink the night

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<v Speaker 2>before so I really never know what I'm gonna give.

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<v Speaker 2>But because of how bad it can be on the

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<v Speaker 2>other end, it's it's uh, I usually stay away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, the reason I bring up Red Bull is

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<v Speaker 2>because right now you can do buy two, get one

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<v Speaker 2>free of the twelve Mounts Red Bulls. And they also

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<v Speaker 2>have a five dollars combo. You can get a wild

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<v Speaker 2>berry doughnut in a wild Berry Red Bull combo five bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a creative breakfast for you. So again

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<v Speaker 2>we are philbuth Thornton's certainly appreciate appreciate them all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we've been all over the place today. I'll mention

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<v Speaker 2>the O takea away watch once more, just because as

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<v Speaker 2>we start the five o'clock hour, unless I have missed

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<v Speaker 2>it during the break, it doesn't appear that we have

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<v Speaker 2>received any information just yet. I don't say we like

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<v Speaker 2>me and this show. I just mean, okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like it is now. Yeah, I did miss it.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened before we went to break.

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<v Speaker 5>In the uh.

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<v Speaker 2>In the four o'clock hour, he has decided that he

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<v Speaker 2>will return to Kentucky for his senior season, which was

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<v Speaker 2>the obvious right decision, and I would imagine it was

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<v Speaker 2>what he was going to do all along.

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<v Speaker 3>But who knows, maybe he did. Maybe he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a real last minute, you know, change of heart

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to go and then he decided to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe he just didn't know and he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>utilize every every hour of every day to actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>consider the situation. Or here's another factor that I doubt

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<v Speaker 2>this is the case, but it really wouldn't surprise me.

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<v Speaker 2>These kind of things give you a real big opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>for marketing and branding, not just for you as an

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<v Speaker 2>individual as a player, but also for your program because

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<v Speaker 2>Otegoway coming back solidifies where everybody probably has Kentucky viewed

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<v Speaker 2>next year as far as preseason rankings. So the content

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<v Speaker 2>that goes into this, I don't know if. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen any of the actual social media stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but if there's like a video that somebody put together

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<v Speaker 2>mind just in case, you know, I mean, I bet

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<v Speaker 2>there's been plenty of creatives that work for these universities

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<v Speaker 2>that have two different scenarios created, right, I guess maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you actually you wouldn't create.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't create.

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<v Speaker 2>Something if it's a you know, for example, if he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go pro, I don't think Kentucky would have celebrated

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<v Speaker 2>with some big, special social media content. But even if

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, even if there was a ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>chance that he does stay in the draft, you would

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<v Speaker 2>still probably have something available just because you know you

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<v Speaker 2>could take advantage of it. So I don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>what led to it, but he did work out for

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<v Speaker 2>the Nets today, and he wouldn't have been able to

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of that workout had he announced last week or.

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<v Speaker 3>Two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably so good, there's a good chance he just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to soak up every bit that you can from this

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<v Speaker 2>process of getting feedback from the NBA and just going

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<v Speaker 2>through the experience working out with other NBA hopefuls, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there is real value there. But he looks

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<v Speaker 2>as if he's got his Instagram post he wrote I'm

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<v Speaker 2>back better now. I assume that's an indication that he

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<v Speaker 2>got better throughout this process, which if he did, it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't shock me. I'm sure he's competing against really good

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<v Speaker 2>players as it's a competitive thing to make it in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, and he will make a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky and he may never make it in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>And had he not decided to come back to Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>he wouldn't have had all that money, and he still

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<v Speaker 2>may have never made it in the NBA. So this

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<v Speaker 2>was the right decision for him and clearly the one

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<v Speaker 2>that Kentucky fans were expecting and hoping. So right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a good chance that we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to beat down to as far as players that you realize,

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<v Speaker 2>if they do decide to come back, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>make the team that they play for a lot better

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<v Speaker 2>than they would be without them. Or it's guys who

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<v Speaker 2>were in the portal, and when they decide to come back,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot of competition because they're

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<v Speaker 2>that good. I don't really know who I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know who else is even I mean r J.

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<v Speaker 3>Luise.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks as if and you never know what to

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<v Speaker 2>believe anymore, because I'm looking right here and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a Twitter account called Johnny Thunderbird, and it's a Saint

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<v Speaker 2>John's basketball fan account that put out an hour ago

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<v Speaker 2>that he's keeping his name in the NBA draft, And look,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he is, but like I just now see things

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<v Speaker 2>from outlets like that and just you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>assume that it's fake, but I don't really know if

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<v Speaker 2>I should trust it. But it wouldn't shock me if

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<v Speaker 2>he does decide to stay, because and it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>that is in fact what he's decided to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's two different things here.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got you've got a report that he's staying, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if you can call something that's

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<v Speaker 2>on ex Twitter or report because you know, you can

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<v Speaker 2>pay for the blue check mark and just claim your

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<v Speaker 2>whatever and just mess with people, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people do that, by the way. So I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>anything certain as far as what he ends up doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he does come back to college and he

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<v Speaker 2>ends up available, he'll have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of suitors because he's that good of a player.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, now, let me see if we got anything

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<v Speaker 2>here the latest from the one and only Jeff Goodman,

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<v Speaker 2>who I feel like is pretty pretty ahead of the

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<v Speaker 2>game when it comes to covering and reporting on things

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<v Speaker 2>like this. But yeah, it doesn't look you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>did just share the Kentucky news with OA on the

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<v Speaker 2>field of sixty eight Twitter account but nothing on R. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Luise.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, people all around here probably don't care anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>because I wouldn't imagine that any of the local schools

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<v Speaker 2>would be in play for him if he does come

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<v Speaker 2>back to school or not. But anyways, that's the big news.

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<v Speaker 2>So take Oway is coming back to Kentucky as expected,

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<v Speaker 2>and now you don't have to worry about what you

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<v Speaker 2>would do if he didn't, because there really wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>I think a scenario where you could, even with all

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<v Speaker 2>the money you have, I don't know how you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>Also, we got some news on the UL basketball scheduling front.

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<v Speaker 2>The ACC announced the full schedule today. It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have we don't have dates and tip time anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we now know which teams Louisville is gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>once on the road in conference play, once at home

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<v Speaker 2>in conference play, and who they will play twice in

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<v Speaker 2>conference play. We knew it was SMU as the I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not calling them a rival regardless what the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>annual opponent that you're gonna get twice. Everybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>ACC has one of those. Louisvill's was SMU, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it just played out because both of you are transplants,

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<v Speaker 2>although Loisl's been there a lot longer and there I

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<v Speaker 2>guess really was no natural fit anywhere else, so they

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<v Speaker 2>just lump those two together. So Louis will play SMU

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<v Speaker 2>every year basketball home and away, and then they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to rotate a different team every year as a two

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<v Speaker 2>time opponent. And this year you get Duke, which it

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<v Speaker 2>is wild. I think this is really telling in regards to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just where the ACC has fallen in recent years,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're celebrating at the fact that you get Duke twice,

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are you know, Duke and then teams that

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<v Speaker 3>You just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do believe the ACC is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>better and take a step forward. I just as I

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<v Speaker 2>get there. I mean, I don't know this for certain,

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<v Speaker 2>believe it'll shake out. I think you will have teams

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<v Speaker 2>in lee play? And where that really gets determined, I

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<v Speaker 2>think is what you do in the non conference portion

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<v Speaker 2>of your schedule. Therefore, I think competing well outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the conference is going to be huge for the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>as far as getting any kind of benefit of the

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<v Speaker 2>doubt when it comes to how conference play shapes up.

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<v Speaker 2>And the SEC we know is the best league in

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<v Speaker 2>basketball after last season and wouldn't be shocked if it

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<v Speaker 2>once again is the best league in basketball. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you can be competitive in the ACC SEC challenge and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple maybe three ACC teams end up beating the

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<v Speaker 2>a long way on selection Sunday. Easier said than done,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't even know the matchups just yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>that is something I think will be a huge factor.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just it's usually the ACC is just so

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<v Speaker 2>good that you know you're going to get opportunities to

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<v Speaker 2>get valuable wins. You could you could finish with, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>three games above five hundred conference play in previous year

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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC, and you're still safely in with maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even a decent seed. Louisville went eighteen and two and

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<v Speaker 2>got an eight seed last year. I mean, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the league is. So Louisville schedule right now. In

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<v Speaker 2>the non conference, you've got Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana, Cincinnati, Memphis,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever you get in the ACC SEC Challenge, and then

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<v Speaker 2>now you get Duke twice. So with those opportunities, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can take advantage and win some of those games, heck,

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<v Speaker 2>win a lot of them. I don't know if that's doable,

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<v Speaker 2>but you should be able to. I mean, Cincinnati and Memphis,

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, aren't. I mean, Indiana, Cincinnati and Memphis

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<v Speaker 2>aren't teams that really Louisville should be thinking Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a tall, tall task here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hope they're good and louisvill can beat them,

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<v Speaker 2>because again that's best, that's the best case scenario. But

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<v Speaker 2>if those teams are solid to good and you can

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<v Speaker 2>win your fair share of them and then do what

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to do the rest of the way, like

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<v Speaker 2>beating up on the bad teams in your league, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course doing what you're supposed to do against

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<v Speaker 2>the lower level teams that are going to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, like the Winthrops or maybe the Bellermans, then that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that gives you a much better chance of

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<v Speaker 2>avoiding the eight line like you did last year. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the college football playoff argument, that's really the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to describe it, right, And I'm I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Technically it's fans arguing. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>we're actually getting arguments with the acc SEC, Big ten

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<v Speaker 2>and Big twelve commissioners, but clearly they're they're speaking on

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<v Speaker 2>behalf of their league, and they're also operating as if

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing whatever they can to you know, make.

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<v Speaker 3>The most of doing whatever they can to help their league,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's their job.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not their fault, so not having somebody overseeing the

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<v Speaker 2>entire situation that is not a representative of one league,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not employed by a specific league, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you need, And I just I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's actually gonna ever happen. But the format that

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<v Speaker 2>I think makes the most sense at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the champs.

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<v Speaker 2>Get automatic bids from the four Power fours, but.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't get any automatic spot. They just they're in.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, if you're the champ in the Big twelve and

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<v Speaker 2>it's that down of a year, you might get seated

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<v Speaker 2>at thirteen, and then you should have a conference champion

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<v Speaker 2>from one of the other leagues, the G six as

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<v Speaker 2>they call it, and whichever team is best in the

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<v Speaker 2>College Football Playoff rankings from that group should also get

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<v Speaker 2>an automatic bid, and then the rest it's just up

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<v Speaker 2>for grabs and it goes to the best teams, regardless

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<v Speaker 2>of what conference they're in.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that makes the most sense. Or you could

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<v Speaker 3>give nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>A automatic bid and just pick the sixteen best teams.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you did that, I really wouldn't have any

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<v Speaker 3>issue with it either. But at that point you would

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<v Speaker 3>have to ask yourself, okay, what's the point of conference

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<v Speaker 3>championship games. That's what they run risk of here is

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't have any incentive as far as seeding

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<v Speaker 3>or even a bid to win your conference championship game,

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<v Speaker 3>why play it?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess you're almost going to be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>want you don't want you if you find yourself avoiding

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<v Speaker 2>the conference championship game unintentionally it's because you lost. But

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<v Speaker 2>also late in the year, you could be thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we only played twelve games, we only have one loss,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of how our league shaped up, that removed

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<v Speaker 2>us from having the chance to compete in the conference championship.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's okay, because we probably would lose in the

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<v Speaker 2>conference championship game, which would give us two losses, and

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<v Speaker 2>that would make it tough for us to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>So I still think you have to have some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of incentive to get into the You have some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of incentive for the college football or sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>conference championship games, because they become really pointless outside of

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, big money for TV, which really that's

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<v Speaker 2>what the college football playoff is. But at least a

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<v Speaker 2>lie to us and act like you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>because of that. So you know, the SEC meetings are

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and there's all kinds of things being said

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<v Speaker 2>right now by different coaches that some I think are newsworthy,

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<v Speaker 2>some not so much. But this is something that Kirby

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<v Speaker 2>Smart said that I mean, I'm not gonna assume he's lying.

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<v Speaker 2>It really doesn't shock me. It's first I've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, the top level of college football is insanely

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<v Speaker 2>competitive to where you're gonna do whatever you can to

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<v Speaker 2>get an advantage and just constantly be trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to get an edge over your opponent and

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<v Speaker 2>be it a better situation. The Kirby Smart says that

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<v Speaker 2>collectives are now striking deals with high school recruits to

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<v Speaker 2>keep and also gain their commitments. Smart says, some of

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<v Speaker 2>these guys, these kids, I should say, are getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>as much as twenty thousand dollars a month in the

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<v Speaker 2>unregulated market. If they decommit, they're being asked to return

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<v Speaker 2>the compensation, he says, but clearly they could not do that,

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<v Speaker 2>So that would that would help me understand why there's

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<v Speaker 2>such a big push to get rid of the third

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<v Speaker 2>party collectives because of this kind of stuff. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just to the point now where there's always going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a way to get people paid. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>before nil was a thing, people were still getting paid

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<v Speaker 2>to an extent. We know that, right, Like, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big shock. You don't clutch your pearls and think,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness, Like before this there were still people

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<v Speaker 2>getting handshake deals and getting vehicles for their family or

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<v Speaker 2>a job or their dad or something like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff's been going on forever. So if in fact

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<v Speaker 2>what Kirby smart is happening and it's unregulated and they

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<v Speaker 2>can't regulate it, I just chalk that up as okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's now the new way of bending the rules, because

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what, even if you do open up and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, a lot of things are now opened

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<v Speaker 2>up to where I mean it's a free market. You

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<v Speaker 2>can pay for players, you can leave any time you

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<v Speaker 2>want as a player and go play wherever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>And some guys are playing college sports for six or

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<v Speaker 2>seven years.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be even more lawless, and it could be

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<v Speaker 2>even more chaotic, and even more so the wild wild West.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll still be people trying to find a way to

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<v Speaker 2>ben rules and not break them or ben rules, break

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<v Speaker 2>them and not get caught, because that's really just human

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<v Speaker 2>nature for a lot of people. I hate to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>but the old saying has some truth to it. You cheat,

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't trying, right. I mean, that's I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I necessarily believe that wholeheartedly, but like I know

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<v Speaker 2>why people say it. All right, quick break, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give you my top three I'm sorry, top four Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>football players by certain positions. Next, and this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a great teast for a five o'clock drivetime sports radio show,

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody's requested it, and I want to have fun

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm I'm running on fumes here.

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<v Speaker 3>The tank is almost empty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the rest of this show and then tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>and Friday and then that's all she wrote.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be out of here and on my way.

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<v Speaker 2>To to eight forty whas. So hang out. Please don't

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<v Speaker 2>leave me lonely while I'm wrapping this up. That'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a sad way to go out. So please, I beg

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<v Speaker 2>of you. Keep a lock right here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get right into it. I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing that I did last week with the basketball players,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning I'm not basing it on my exact lifetime at

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<v Speaker 2>this point because I was born in nineteen eighty eight,

425
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<v Speaker 2>so therefore my memory of watching U of L basketball

426
00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and football really starts in the It's more so basketball

427
00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:57.519
<v Speaker 2>in the mid nineties. Football late nineties is what I remember.

428
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<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember, I mean, I remember for certain players,

429
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<v Speaker 2>certain things about football, but just not as as much

430
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<v Speaker 2>as I do basketball.

431
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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna go.

432
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<v Speaker 2>With top four quarterbacks, and I'm gonna give you mine here,

433
00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:17.400
<v Speaker 2>and I want I'm gonna get I'm gonna see Austin here.

434
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<v Speaker 2>If you like, you don't have to tell me right now,

435
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<v Speaker 2>but after I give you my four, tell me if

436
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<v Speaker 2>there's any surprises, maybe not as.

437
00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.039
<v Speaker 3>Far as order, but as far as.

438
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<v Speaker 2>You know anybody that you were surprised that was there

439
00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:31.519
<v Speaker 2>or that was that was left off. I mean, the

440
00:21:31.519 --> 00:21:33.319
<v Speaker 2>first two are so obvious. I mean, and I think

441
00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.480
<v Speaker 2>you could really unless you live to watch Johnny Unitas play.

442
00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>And even if you did, he was a better quarterback

443
00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:42.000
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL than he wasn't. Louisville didn't do much

444
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.640
<v Speaker 2>at quarterback at Ul as far as throwing the ball

445
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<v Speaker 2>because it.

446
00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Was a different world.

447
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:46.480
<v Speaker 5>A statue though, that's right.

448
00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:48.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's a legend, but again his his his

449
00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.759
<v Speaker 2>legend really became bigger in the pros than it was

450
00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.200
<v Speaker 2>around here. But still we embrace to touch that statue on. Yeah,

451
00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.720
<v Speaker 2>we embrace him, and he's great. But when it comes

452
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<v Speaker 2>to the top two, I mean it's it's Lamar and

453
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<v Speaker 2>tent right, I mean.

454
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:03.559
<v Speaker 5>We're talking about quarterbacks.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yes, I mean Lamar is number one

456
00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.279
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think that'll ever be disputed by anybody.

457
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.160
<v Speaker 2>And I think I go Teddy just because he was

458
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<v Speaker 2>really good for multiple years and the numbers show that

459
00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:20.240
<v Speaker 2>his statistics as well as the wins. And then after that,

460
00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I just as a fan, I

461
00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:26.240
<v Speaker 2>can't remember a quarterback that I felt like we had

462
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<v Speaker 2>a chance to beat anybody when he was on the field.

463
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was just something about seeing Teddy march out

464
00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:31.119
<v Speaker 4>there and you knew.

465
00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>That and look, Lamar, Lamar did things that look that

466
00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:36.079
<v Speaker 2>clearly looked as if, you know, only somebody created.

467
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<v Speaker 3>In a video game could do.

468
00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:40.079
<v Speaker 2>But with Teddy, I just kind of feel like the

469
00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:43.079
<v Speaker 2>moments that And look, Teddy had bigger moments, bigger wins, right,

470
00:22:43.119 --> 00:22:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Lamar had a great career here, and Louisville

471
00:22:45.680 --> 00:22:48.759
<v Speaker 2>had some special wins along that along.

472
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<v Speaker 5>The way as Heisman year.

473
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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, I mean the Florida State win was monumental.

474
00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:55.759
<v Speaker 2>It's an all time memory, will always be for a

475
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<v Speaker 2>lot of people.

476
00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Not just me, sarahcuse jump, that's true.

477
00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:01.799
<v Speaker 2>And then but I mean, I still believe that the

478
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<v Speaker 2>best Louisville football win ever, certainly in my lifetime, is

479
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:08.799
<v Speaker 2>the win over Florida and the Sugar Bowl. And Teddy

480
00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.279
<v Speaker 2>put Teddy put himself on the map more so than

481
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:14.079
<v Speaker 2>he already was that year, and obviously that was I mean,

482
00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.160
<v Speaker 2>that was a big statement by louisvill football at that time,

483
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.319
<v Speaker 2>one of the forgotten things at least maybe it's not

484
00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:22.640
<v Speaker 2>forgotten people that just don't mention it anymore. But we

485
00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.599
<v Speaker 2>hated Kirk Herbstreet after that because he gave us no

486
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.960
<v Speaker 2>chance to win and and and you know, dismissed us.

487
00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:31.079
<v Speaker 2>And then when we won, I say, we like I'm

488
00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>on the team. And whenever Louisville won, he acted as if, well,

489
00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 2>it's only because Florida wasn't interested, and I think Herbie

490
00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 2>learned at that time that we may not be a big,

491
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.839
<v Speaker 2>big brand in college football, but we are active online

492
00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:47.759
<v Speaker 2>and we're petty and we don't forget.

493
00:23:48.160 --> 00:23:50.839
<v Speaker 3>That's what he learned. So those are the top.

494
00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Two m again, right, yeah, yeah, he's fine. And then

495
00:23:55.319 --> 00:24:02.240
<v Speaker 2>for me when it comes to three and four, I mean,

496
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go Brian Brown, of course, but I actually

497
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.440
<v Speaker 2>think Lafor's in the twenty twenty the two thousand and

498
00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.519
<v Speaker 2>four season was I mean, I think outside of Lamar

499
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.039
<v Speaker 2>and the Heisman, and Lamar in his in his junior year,

500
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Lafour's he was insane. I mean he had thirty five

501
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>hundred plus yards in the twenty two thousand and four season,

502
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty total touchdowns. I still think that was a Louisville

503
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:30.759
<v Speaker 2>team that despite the schedule, I mean, I can't, there's

504
00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:32.039
<v Speaker 2>no way to prove it, but I think that was

505
00:24:32.079 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the best level football team from top to bottom that

506
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 2>I watched. Because not only did you have a you know,

507
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 2>team that went I mean again you lost, so you

508
00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:42.359
<v Speaker 2>don't get credit for it, but the one time they

509
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>played a really really good team outside of that Boise

510
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 2>State team in that in that Bowl game was Miami,

511
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:48.559
<v Speaker 2>and we all know how that played out, and that

512
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>still pains me to this day to know that they

513
00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, they couldn't they couldn't win that game. But

514
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>not only was that team eight to zero in the

515
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>comp ANDSA, they were eleven in one overall. They finished

516
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>number six in the BCS rankings, which just got to

517
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.720
<v Speaker 2>be the highest we've ever finished, to be honest with you.

518
00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>And then the only loss was against number three Miami.

519
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>That happened to have every I mean think every player

520
00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>who started on that team was drafted in the NFL.

521
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's accurate. I don't think it is.

522
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm exaggerating, but they were loaded. But also so was Louisville.

523
00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.440
<v Speaker 2>If you go back and look at that team, they

524
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.160
<v Speaker 2>didn't just have the guy, you know, they didn't just

525
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>have the the you know, Lafor's. They had dudes who

526
00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:28.839
<v Speaker 2>played in the NFL for a long time. And that

527
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>coaching stab was loaded. Jeff was the QB coach. You

528
00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>had Tony Levine who went on to be a pretty

529
00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:39.400
<v Speaker 2>successful coach elsewhere as a head coach, Mike Summers on

530
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the O line, I mean, Paul Petrino was still a

531
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:45.240
<v Speaker 2>madman here at that time.

532
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>So I'm going to go.

533
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:50.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go Brahm three, Lafour's four, And I

534
00:25:51.160 --> 00:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>feel bad leaving off Redmond because Revand was really really good,

535
00:25:53.519 --> 00:25:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's one of those guys that didn't have any

536
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 2>accomplishment as well. I shouldn't say he had a lot

537
00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:59.519
<v Speaker 2>of the complishments, but he didn't have a team that

538
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>really did anything crazy memorable, at least not that I'm

539
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:06.039
<v Speaker 2>aware of. As far as milestones for LOISVLL football, though,

540
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 2>we feel like are really rare, So you know, I

541
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:10.160
<v Speaker 2>think maybe that's why it just doesn't. He doesn't come

542
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>up as much. But I remember how big of a

543
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>deal it wasn't he came to Louisville before it was

544
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:17.279
<v Speaker 2>the cool thing to do before guys like Brian Did

545
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.279
<v Speaker 2>and Mike Bush. So I'm gonna go that's my four.

546
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>If if I was going five, I would go Redmond.

547
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.759
<v Speaker 2>But the running backs, no, by the way, real quick,

548
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>did Is there anybody that I left off that you

549
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:28.519
<v Speaker 2>felt like was now?

550
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.920
<v Speaker 5>No, that's you was all in in.

551
00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>It was pretty easy and my taste too. Yeah, all right,

552
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>so with running backs, this one's easy at the top.

553
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>It's Mike Bush.

554
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, twenty five hundred yards, thirty nine touchdowns. Imagine

555
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.160
<v Speaker 2>what would have been had he never got hurt. I mean,

556
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that's the It's one of the many, but it might

557
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>be one of the top all time Louisville what ifs right,

558
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.440
<v Speaker 2>just because of how how great that team was, and

559
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, he goes down proven at the time he

560
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>was a phenomenal player, one of the best running backs

561
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>in the country. And then you know, you end up

562
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>getting Kobe Smith and Anthony Allen to step in and

563
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 2>those guys were great.

564
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 5>That's true.

565
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 4>You want to know a weird little side tidbit, as

566
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 4>I when I was living in Arizona at that time,

567
00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 4>my grandma would always send the would always send us

568
00:27:13.200 --> 00:27:16.359
<v Speaker 4>a Courier Journal articles and sweet and.

569
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great that's well, that's a grandma that

570
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that that you know, she knows that you would love that.

571
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

572
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember if it was the front page or

573
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:26.599
<v Speaker 4>if it was just it had to be on because

574
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 4>there were different subjects almost sports. One was entertainment, but

575
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.440
<v Speaker 4>on the same thing where it shows that Michael Bush

576
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 4>is laying there and it says Heisman candidate out for season.

577
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.599
<v Speaker 4>There's a sub bottom of the corner that was like

578
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 4>the same time that Steve Ir when the Crocodile Hunter died.

579
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 4>And remember I always remembered seeing Michael Bush laying there

580
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 4>and then just hearing it's just see because that's how

581
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 4>the news broke.

582
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:49.799
<v Speaker 5>We didn't have phones.

583
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, And it's another reminder that like now, when you

584
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>get your information, it's just something you pull up on

585
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 2>your own device, on your jockett or a TV screen

586
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.119
<v Speaker 2>or your or your you know, your computer, whatever it

587
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 2>may be. But now you know back then, but physically

588
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>you'd have it. And then if it just sits around

589
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 2>somewhere for a long time, you see it enough when

590
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>you walk past it and you remember those kind of things.

591
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of times where I think of that

592
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Michael Bush, that face, you think of the crocodile.

593
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 5>And I think of the Crocodile Hunter.

594
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:14.079
<v Speaker 3>I love the randomness of this.

595
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.759
<v Speaker 4>That's just uh so I guess do with that what

596
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 4>you think the universe thinks of us as you will?

597
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I uh, I gotta go Bush one. And

598
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:25.200
<v Speaker 2>then after that it's really competitive, to be honest with you.

599
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I I think I think blow pal just

600
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 2>because of how good he was in that one season

601
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:35.400
<v Speaker 2>with Charlie. Also forgot about him and Blow. I mean

602
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 2>that team wasn't great, but man, we felt like we

603
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>were in heaven because we went through Cragthorpe and then

604
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 2>Charlie comes in and we start. You know, defense was

605
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>clearly upgraded in a major way. They were competitive and

606
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:47.839
<v Speaker 2>you could just tell there was new energy, new life

607
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:50.480
<v Speaker 2>in the program. And again we weren't great, but man,

608
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 2>that beef old Brady's Bowl and Saint Pete felt great.

609
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Didn't it.

610
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 5>I meant everything.

611
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>And the reason I put Blow there is because early

612
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 2>in his career before you know, he got cracked like

613
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other people, to where it just you know,

614
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:03.519
<v Speaker 2>things were it was, the program was in a bad way.

615
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 2>He'd kind of slacked off, stopped working out as much,

616
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>and I don't even think he had grades that he

617
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.359
<v Speaker 2>needed to be eligible whenever Charlie first got here. But

618
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Charlie uplifted him and basically, you know, made him the

619
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 2>face if you remember that, that's way back in the

620
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>day he made because Charlie would have a face.

621
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Of the program. I don't think he wanted it to

622
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 3>be an annual thing.

623
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 2>But when it was blow early on, a lot of

624
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>fans every year would ask, you know, who's that guy?

625
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Then we realized, oh yeah, it's Teddy bridge Water. But anyways,

626
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.039
<v Speaker 3>that team.

627
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 2>No offense to those guys at all because they played

628
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 2>hard and they helped bring us back in that era

629
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>that was the Charlie Strong air at the louis of

630
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>football was really special. But I'm not sure that team

631
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>wins four games without him, or maybe even three. I mean,

632
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 2>the offense was not loaded. You didn't have many good

633
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.559
<v Speaker 2>receivers at all, and your quarterback play wasn't great by

634
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 2>any means, and you had an offensive line that did

635
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>their part. But blat of Powell is the reason you

636
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.359
<v Speaker 2>were able to win games. You had a good defense,

637
00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>but he was the offense. And I mean he had

638
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<v Speaker 2>one thousand, four hundred and five yard cards in twenty

639
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<v Speaker 2>ten alone.

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<v Speaker 4>When I think of those years, I think of possibly

641
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<v Speaker 4>the ugliest uniforms that Louisville's had, you know, with like

642
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<v Speaker 4>the stripe kind Oh yes, you know exactly what one

643
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>you're talking about. It made it look like a tank.

644
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know it it's the top.

645
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So forget I'm going These are running backs that I

646
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:16.920
<v Speaker 2>watched play at Louisville that I remember as far as

647
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<v Speaker 2>the best. And then after that, I gotta be honest

648
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:21.359
<v Speaker 2>with you, it gets there's a lot of guys that

649
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>are that are solid, but I don't, you know, it

650
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>just sounds kind of off putting them in the all

651
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>time great. But again, this is an all time great.

652
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>This is Nick's twenty year window roughly or twenty five

653
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 2>year window, whatever it may be. And and this one,

654
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I swear to you, this guy I think will go

655
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<v Speaker 2>down as one of the most easily forgotten electrifying players

656
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.599
<v Speaker 2>that we had at Louisville. And because of circumstance and

657
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 2>because of it all not working out for him, it

658
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>easy easy to forget. And that's Javian Hawkins.

659
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<v Speaker 5>Oh wow, who would you?

660
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Who are you thinking?

661
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.240
<v Speaker 5>I want to thinking of Victor Anderson.

662
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, Vic had a good run passed up by

663
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean he and he and Blau were the same

664
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<v Speaker 2>year and Vic was Freshman of the Year in the

665
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Big East and then kind of tailed off. And he

666
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 2>was productive and did certainly play a role for Charlie

667
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>in that last year, but it was hard for him

668
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>to really stand out because Blao Powe was just I mean,

669
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>b palet over fourteen hundred yards in one season. I

670
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.279
<v Speaker 2>mean that's pretty special. But do you remember Javian Hawkins, Yes,

671
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>I do, so he was a freshman All American in

672
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, SAT's first year where Louisville ended up going

673
00:31:28.400 --> 00:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>eight and five and won the Music City Bowl against

674
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State. And even the next year when Louisville stunk

675
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.319
<v Speaker 2>it was the COVID year he opted out. If you remember,

676
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 2>he left and signed with Rosenhaus was that his name

677
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.519
<v Speaker 2>of the agent? Yes, and ended up going pro. But

678
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.119
<v Speaker 2>never I mean, he had a brief stint with the

679
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Falcons and the Rams and that's all.

680
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.839
<v Speaker 3>She wrote. He was really really.

681
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Good, and I mean in two seasons he had two

682
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty five yards and sixteen touchdowns. And

683
00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I say two seasons because I mean it's not really

684
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>two seasons, right, I mean, he he played a normal

685
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:11.119
<v Speaker 2>season as a freshman and as a sophomore. He ended up,

686
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:12.839
<v Speaker 2>I guess as a red shirt freshman. But that as

687
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>a sophomore, you know, he played and they but they

688
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.359
<v Speaker 2>only I don't even know how many games they had

689
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>on the schedule that year because again, you only played

690
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.119
<v Speaker 2>a con he could played a nine game schedule I

691
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>think it was, and he he opted out after maybe

692
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>not even halfway through the season. And I mean, really

693
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>he was so easy to forget about him after that

694
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>because you'd really never heard anything about him.

695
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.759
<v Speaker 3>But when he was here, he was good.

696
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:33.640
<v Speaker 5>Like he was.

697
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>He was of all of the running backs of the

698
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Louisvells had, like the two guys I just mentioned, they're

699
00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>really great, productive, they didn't have a boot burst of

700
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>speed like he did.

701
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was. He was really good.

702
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>And then at four, it really is tough because I

703
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>guess I'm just gonna go I'm just gonna go longevity here,

704
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.160
<v Speaker 2>because the numbers are impressive over a four year career,

705
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.759
<v Speaker 2>and he was productive every year. He was to an extent,

706
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 2>and he played for some really good teams that had

707
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of success from going Brandon Radcliffe, oh yes,

708
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty three hundred yards in his career, twenty six touchdowns.

709
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 2>So again that tells you how good Javid Hawkins was

710
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>in a brief amount of time. He had twenty three

711
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards in less than two seasons. Whereas Radcliffe, who

712
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 2>again I believe is good, he was much less productive

713
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>just because he shared the you know, he wasn't a

714
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 2>feature back and he didn't have many plays where he

715
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 2>was getting you know, eighty yard touchdowns.

716
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 4>So what I quick question dad, onto that list on

717
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 4>that problem with it? Where would we throw someone like

718
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 4>Brock Bowland? Will we call that a running back?

719
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>No, he's more of a full back. And I love

720
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 2>that you mentioned Brock Bowland.

721
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Because I mean love, I loved Brock, But he wasn't

722
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:44.920
<v Speaker 3>like that.

723
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean like he didn't have really any I mean,

724
00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>he's just a guy you remember who was on a

725
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>good team, like a kid.

726
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 3>He just kind of he's like my bozx Smith and basketball.

727
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 5>Didn't they use them a lot? Didn't they use them

728
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:54.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot of a senior year.

729
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was effective, he was a weapon. He just

730
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, he would be tough to include him because

731
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 2>he was a situational guy where he's not just out

732
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 2>there to continuously move the change for you, you know, right.

733
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 2>But now I got to look this up because I'm

734
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fool for just not being able to move

735
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>on past it. But yeah, Jamie Hawkins, he had twenty

736
00:34:13.719 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>three hundred yards and he only played in twenty one games.

737
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's impressive. That's impressive. So that's why I

738
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.719
<v Speaker 2>have him there. But again he is right, he's so

739
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>easy to forget. Yeah, all right, so there you got

740
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.719
<v Speaker 2>have it. We're gonna do receivers and defensive players tomorrow

741
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.119
<v Speaker 2>because again I ramble and can't manage the clock. Quick

742
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 2>time out will come back. Wrap it up on the

743
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.360
<v Speaker 2>other side right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

744
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on

745
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

746
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<v Speaker 3>So if you are joining us late, you're really late.

747
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>But the big news today here locally is otego Away

748
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.400
<v Speaker 2>has decided to come back for his final season.

749
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Actually is it his final season. I'm not sure.

750
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how long he's played college sports, but

751
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 2>nonetheless he's back, and that's was the expectation. But he

752
00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 2>certainly waited late until making it public. But he'll be

753
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest factor for Kentucky being a preseason

754
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>team that is ranked probably in the top ten, certainly fifteen.

755
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Just about everywhere that you look.

756
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>But the other news that I guess it's probably not

757
00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 2>really irrelevant, but as far as all the guys that

758
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.679
<v Speaker 2>were waiting at the last minute, to make a decision

759
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and make it public. Oway was the biggest I think

760
00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 2>college player that is coming back as far as the

761
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 2>decisions that were made today. Because r J luis he

762
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.039
<v Speaker 2>is going to stay in the draft. His father tells

763
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the field of sixty eight that he's going to remain

764
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:36.679
<v Speaker 2>in the draft, and here's a quote. He says, there'll

765
00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>be no change of heart. RJ's excited about the future.

766
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.039
<v Speaker 2>He's appreciative of Saint John's coach Patino and the fans.

767
00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:46.960
<v Speaker 2>He wants to leave college as a Johnny. So if

768
00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>you remember he hit the portal but never ended up

769
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>transferring because he's now going pro. But what a weird

770
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 2>way for your college career to come to an end.

771
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>You're an All American. You were the man for a

772
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.000
<v Speaker 2>team that was one of the best teams in the

773
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 2>country all season, and the team was a storyline because

774
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Rick Patino, of all people, as the guy that's back

775
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 2>in New York City bringing the Johnnies back to life.

776
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>They were relevant and successful in a way they hadn't

777
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.239
<v Speaker 2>been in a long time. And then they get in

778
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 2>the second round against Arkansas.

779
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>R J.

780
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 3>Lewise is having an off night.

781
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Patino benches him and I don't remember if Rick really

782
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 2>went out of his way. I think he was probably asked.

783
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 2>But Rick will clearly tell you if he wants to.

784
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he didn't shy away from acknowledging why R J.

785
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Louise didn't play, and you know, he was letting his

786
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 2>think he said something. He was letting his misshots and

787
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 2>poor offensive play hurt him on the other end.

788
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 3>So no more r J. Luise in college hoops.

789
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>So really, I guess by now, and it's probably been

790
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.519
<v Speaker 2>that way already, but I was gonna say by now,

791
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.599
<v Speaker 2>you probably have you know, you can look at these

792
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.199
<v Speaker 2>early rankings and know that not much of anything is

793
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>going to change, because you know, I mean, there's not

794
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 2>all I mean, there's still certainly some moves that could

795
00:36:57.880 --> 00:36:59.280
<v Speaker 2>be made. There's still some guys I guess they could

796
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>join your team from a receives I don't even know

797
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 2>if graduates have the ability to hit the portal even

798
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>though the portal's closed. But for the most part, I'd

799
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 2>say the dust is settled, and we now know what

800
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 2>college basketball teams next year are going to look like.

801
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>And I would imagine that both fan bases around here

802
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>probably feel pretty good about where they are now with Louisville,

803
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it's definitely going to come down to I mean, the

804
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 2>excitement is going to be there regardless, but figuring out

805
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>what happens with Ali Khalif is going.

806
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:24.760
<v Speaker 3>To be huge.

807
00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 2>And I'm still just operating with the belief that common

808
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 2>sense will prevail and they'll look at his waiver and

809
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>realize that he, of all people, should be entitled to

810
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>get a to get a fourth year of playing college basketball,

811
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know, because he sorry about that, because he's

812
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.000
<v Speaker 2>only played three seasons and he got injured.

813
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 3>Like it just to me, it's it's a no brainer.

814
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.639
<v Speaker 2>But then again, the NAA has at times made the

815
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:56.079
<v Speaker 2>wrong decision on what seems to be no brainer decisions.

816
00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 3>So we're out of time, you guys, enjoy the evening.

817
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<v Speaker 2>We're back at it tomorrow right here on ward, Stock

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety