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Speaker 1: Need to get your football fix on all things Army,

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Navy and Air Force. This is Yarns and Stripes Service

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Academy Football. Now here are your hosts, Pryce Atkinson and

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Steve Carney.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Yards and Stripes Episode sixteen. But more importantly,

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our Army Navy Preview Special, the greatest rivalry in all

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of sports. Dare I say it, but it is true.

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Army Navy Week is upon us and it all goes

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down this Saturday in Baltimore with the Commander in Chief

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Trophy on the line, the Army Black Knights, the Navy

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Midshipman and we will get into everything and more here

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on this episode of Yards and Stripes.

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Speaker 3: I'm Pryce Atkinson.

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Speaker 2: More importantly, he is Stephen Carney, the greatest producer co

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host in the history of podcasting.

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Speaker 3: And we have got a loaded one as.

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Speaker 2: We are part of the College Grider and Coast to

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Coast podcast network and available at last World on sports

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dot Com. Loaded loaded seting the table for the game

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in Baltimore. We got bowl games that bow teams are going.

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We got guest interviews, we got a Travis Meaning Foundation

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Honor Roll segment. Speaking of guests, we got some good

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win Steven, Joe Miller, the play by play voice of

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the Navy Midshipman, and then sal Enter Donado from Black

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Knight Nation, founder editor of that Army website and does

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a great job army beat writer for many many years

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with the Times. Uh that Times here record up in

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uh West Point. So we've got sal Or Donado and

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Joe Miller. Can't wait to bring you those interviews here, Steven,

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But I know it's a Tuesday night without further ado,

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let's got a Killer Pizza Report to kick this baby

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off in style.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the the Killer Pizza Report unfortunately does not have

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as on it.

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Speaker 5: Uh No, we've been, we've been. We've been battling.

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Speaker 4: We've been battling illness here in the Carney household. So

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the Killer Pizza has been mostly chicken soup and and

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the like. So oh no, yeah, no, it's no big deal.

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It's it's this weather that's killing us here in Florida.

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You and I talked about this before we started the

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show here here here in Florida. It has been warm

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the last five or six days, you know, the next

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last week or so, and then all of a sudden,

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I woke up this morning, it was forty eight degrees

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here in Tampa, and I was like, this is for ree,

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Like I felt like I needed to quote a very

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esteemed philosopher I know named doctor Evil saying it's freaking freezing,

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mister Bigglesworth. It was like it was, it was so

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cold this morning, and the way that the weather has

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gone back and forth, it just it's just given us all,

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you know, the mong in the face.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, my wife has been dealing.

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Speaker 4: Uh she she always gets sinus infections when when we

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have this like crazy you know, change of weather, and

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then that usually you know, floats over to me and

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then I it, I get all mungey. And so I've been,

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I've been I've been thankfully working from home the last

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couple of days. So uh, just a you know, dealing

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with dealing with the head feeling like a concrete block.

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Speaker 5: But uh, but we're still good to go.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: There will be pizza this weekend, uh for the Army

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Navy game, that is for sure.

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Speaker 5: There will be.

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Speaker 4: I haven't decided if I'm gonna go with the meat

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massacre or just go straight pepperoni, but uh, but there

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will be plenty of cured meats. Destroyed on on bread

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with cheese and uh sauce for this weekend.

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Speaker 5: That is for sure.

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Speaker 2: Nothing can make that Army Navy game better than some

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killer pizza. And they do not pay us to say that,

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so uh, that is just a ringing endorsement, is all

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that is.

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Speaker 3: Steven.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's without further ado, because we do have a

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loaded lineup here. We've got Joe Miller coming up in

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the next segment, gonna talk Navy football, and then sal Enerdonado.

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You caught up with him over the weekend, so we're

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gonna talk. Gonna bring you both those interviews coming up.

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But let's go ahead and set the table for the

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game because Army six and five taking on the Navy

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and Shipman nine and two. This one going down, of

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course on Saturday at three o'clock M and T Bank

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Stadium in Baltimore. Technically it'll kick off at three ten

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for those scoring at home on CBS, and Navy has

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been installed as a six point favorite over under set

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at thirty seven and a half. And you know, Steve,

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and I saw a headline about this game. I don't

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remember exactly where I saw it, but you know, a

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game that's needed now more than ever, you know, and

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years it's just you know a lot of stuff that's

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happened to college football all at one time. Like it

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seems like we got you know, transfer portal, we've got

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nil we got all kinds of stuff that was happening

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all at one time. And this, you know, kinds of

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brings it back the purity of the game when you

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see the Service academies playing and you know and almost

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like grind it out fair. But the game that we

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all stop, you know, that transcends, you know, families, you

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know graduates, you know some family that was in one

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of the branches of service. So you know a lot

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of times a family member will latch on to one

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of the teams. And that'll be no different when Army

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and number twenty two Navy, you know, match up on

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Saturday at Bank of America Stadium and the one hundred

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and twenty six playing of what you and I would

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agree is the greatest rivalry and all of sports presented

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by USAA at three o'clock on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you know this is not to disrespect Ohio

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State and Michigan or Alabama or Auburn, or USC and

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UCLA or you know, the Red Sox and the Yankees,

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or the Packers and the Bears, whatever, whatever rivalry in

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sports you want to talk about. This is the only

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rivalry where everybody on the field would die for everybody

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in the stands.

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Speaker 5: And I love that.

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Speaker 4: I love of putting that perspective on this game and

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why it's so important for sports. And you mentioned, you know,

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all the things that are going on in college football nowadays,

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you know, with nil the transfer portal, coaches moving, you

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know everywhere in the middle of the season. You know,

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all these buyouts, you know, with whether it's Brian Kelly

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getting fired at LSU or Lane Kiffin and all that

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nonsense going on.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's so much in college football.

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Speaker 4: And then on top of all that, then you get

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the crying programs, the one the ones that go, we're

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not in the college football playoffs, so we don't want

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to go to a bowl game. You know, thanks a lot,

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Notre Dame, Baylor, you know, the all of these, all

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of these, you know, the ones that are five and

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seven and say no, we don't want to go a

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bowl game. Okay, you know, I was fine with Temple.

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I was fine with Florida State saying, nah, we're not

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gonna go to a ball game because honestly, you don't

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deserve to be in a bowl game.

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Speaker 5: But for Notre Dame to go.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna be in the college football playoffs, so

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we don't want to go to a bull game.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're screwing your players over.

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Speaker 4: First off, I feel bad for the players, but you

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know it just you know that that sort of complaining

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and you know, lack of gratitude for being able to

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do what you're gonna do because you could be a

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regular student. You know, how about that why don't you

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pay for your Why don't you pay for your education?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 4: You know it just it just kind of makes me

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laugh that that they don't want they don't want to

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do this, and I and you know, I, you know,

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I I just I just love the fact that, you know,

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these two teams, they're gonna play each other, They're gonna

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play each other as hard as they can, and then afterwards,

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they're gonna sing the Alma maters, they're gonna walk off

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the field and they're gonna get to go to They're

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each gonna get to go to bowl games, and they're

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all going and I love that. I think that's just

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fantastic that we have this. While this is the big game,

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it's not the last game of the year for either

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Army or Navy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get into we'll talk about bowl games here

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just a little bit. But you know, you mentioned this game.

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Speaker 3: It's just different. It is different. It's way different.

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Speaker 2: It's it's different for many many reasons. You know, men

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and women, servicemen and women that are stationed in all

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corners around the world, not just here at home, but

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around the world, listening on you know, on radios, on phones,

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you know, some getting it on the Armed Forces Network,

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getting the you know, the TV feed, and you know

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families you mentioned that, you know got you served in

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both branches in the military that you know latch on.

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This might be the one college football game some of

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them watch all year, you know, but you know, you

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get to the game. There is no other game where

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you've got an entire student body of one school in

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one corner and literally the other school entire student body

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in the other corner. I mean there is I mean

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literally every single student there is no other one that's

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anything like it.

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Speaker 3: And then you throw in the brass and the pomp.

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Speaker 2: This you know everything with the military that it's you know,

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displays outside, you know, the jumpers that bring in the

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game balls, the flyovers. I mean, there's just really nothing

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like it, and you cannot understand it until you go

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for the first time to see what it is, how

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different it is.

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Speaker 3: Because I remember my first one.

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Speaker 2: I think Navy was one in ten, Army was zero

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to eleven, or I might have a vice versa, but

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I didn't know. I was like, what is the big deal?

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I quickly learned what the big deal was quickly.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the best part about this is you mentioned the

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entire student body being in one end zone for one

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school the entire student body being in the other end

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zone for the other school. But you remember that everybody

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in both of those school and both of those schools,

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So everybody in that student body is an athlete at

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these you know.

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Speaker 5: They they are part of the athletics, the part.

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna have the entire Navy basketball team over there,

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You're gonna have the entire Army men's and women's soccer

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teams there. You're gonna have you know, the Navy wrestling

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team you're gonna have, you know, because they've got thirty eight.

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They've got thirty eight programs that they've got to run.

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At Navy, they've got thirty I think it's like thirty

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seven programs, I think is what they have at Army.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: So everybody there is an athlete. Everybody at Army is

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an athlete. Everybody at Navy is an athlete. They are

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all there, They were all they are the student athletes,

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and so I just love the fact that they all

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get to be a part of this. And you know what,

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they may not be football players, but don't tell them

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they they members of Army or Navy's team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Navy leads all time series sixty three to fifty

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five to seven, including last year's thirty one to thirteen

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win in landover Maryland. This will be the seventh time

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the game has been played in Baltimore. Both teams games

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have won three eight, so it sits even steven at

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three and three in the matchups. Ironically, this is gonna

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be the first time the Gay is the game has

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been played in Baltimore since twenty sixteen, a game I

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was at when Army won twenty one to seventeen. If

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you remember that when Stephen, that's the game that broke

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Navy's fourteen game winning streak over the Black Knights, the

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longest winning streak in series history. Navy's last win in Baltimore,

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you got to go all the way back steven to

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two thousand and seven when they beat the Black Knights

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thirty eight to three. So you know, a place that

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you say hasn't been quite as kind and Navy as

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it has certainly has been to Army. But he mentioned

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the Commander in Chief Trophy that is obviously going to

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be front and center on the line, presented annually to

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the winner of the football competition. As we know, between

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the three academies named in honor of the President of

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the United States, Navy has won the CIC seventeen times,

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while Army has won at ten. But what is really surprising,

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at least to me, I just think it's kind of

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wild that this is only going to be the ninth time.

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And I say only because I thought it would be

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more than that. But this is only gonna be the

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ninth time that the CIC Trophy is going.

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Speaker 3: To be on the line for both teams.

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Speaker 2: The last time we remember it was last year, and

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then before that it was twenty seventeen, twenty twelve. You know,

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so I would have thought that, you know, it would

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have happened a lot more than just nine times where

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this game came down to it.

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Speaker 3: But that's what we have, Stevens Saturdays. It's for all

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the marbles.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it has to do with the fact

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that air Force had been you know, a big part

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of the of the CIC Trophy.

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Speaker 5: For all those years.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they'd won it lot, and so you know,

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so this game for many years was okay, if one

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team wins, they win, they win it, and if they lose,

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air Force then retains it. And so you know, so

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they and there, and there are plenty of years where

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when air Force had beaten both Army and Navy. And

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this game wasn't for the for the Commander in Chief

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trophy at all, you know, it was just for pride,

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because the trophy at already taking up residents for another

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year in Colorado Springs. But the fact that the Commander

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in Chief Trophy once again is on the line in

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this game for a second consecutive year, you know, I

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love the fact that there's that little extra onus.

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Speaker 5: There for this team.

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Speaker 4: Not only are you going to be able to say

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that you beat your main rival, but then you can

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turn around and hold that trophy up high and make

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sure that everybody in Colorado Springs can see it too,

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that it's going to be sitting in your trophy case

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for a year.

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Speaker 5: And I love that fact.

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Speaker 4: Of course, we wholly expect the Commander in Chief himself

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to be at this game. I think his first term,

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Donald Trump was there for every for all four of

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those games, you know, from twenty seventeen all the way through.

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he was there for that one. I don't know if

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he did the crossover because they weren't allowing people on

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the field. Although you know, you're the president of the

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United States, I think they would let you on the field.

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Speaker 5: But uh, but I would.

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Speaker 4: I would wholly expect to see the President of the

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United States at this game doing the the turnover at

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the changeover at halftime, which is always you know, people

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always talk about you know, great halftime you know, traditions

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and the ceremonies. You know, whether you get a halftime

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concert like at the Super Bowl or during you know,

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the Cowboys game at four twenty five on Thanksgiving or whatever.

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Speaker 5: You know you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is this is ceremony, Yeah, and ceremony

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of the highest order that you're going to have the

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Commandant of the US Military Academy, the head of the

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United States Naval Academy on the field, you know, conducting

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a change over over and you know, basically relinquishing custody

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of the president from one side to the other so

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we can spend a half on each side. I think

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it's a It's one of those great moments that isn't

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isn't brought up enough. You know, the football game is

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one thing. You know, the the pop and the pageantry

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of the of the march in for both sides is

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talked about when the President is in attendance. That's that's

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one piece that I really, I really take a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I love being able to see it.

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Speaker 4: I love when CBS shows it. Uh you know they

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don't they hardly ever show it live, but uh, but

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showing uh, you know, the sidelines, showing where the president is.

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You know, when it comes to this game, it's always

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it's always fun.

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Speaker 2: I think I've told you that one year I think

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it was one of my last Army Navy games, getting

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trapped on one side of the press box because I

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went over to get food and they said, you better

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go get to food quick because President gets up here.

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It's on lockdown, and I don't think we were able.

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We were out of a lot locked down until you

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know how the quarters to go, They go so quickly.

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I think there was like eight minutes left in the

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third quarter before we were religious and.

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Speaker 3: I could go back to my seat.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if the hot dog was worth

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it that year, but you know, Armies had they even

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had a lot of success lately, Stephen, you know, obviously

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they've struggled a little bit, and it was the shoot

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seems like it's really on the other foot a little bit.

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And Jill Miller kind of talks a little bit about this,

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and I know Sal's going to allude to it. But

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you know, last year, Army was without a doubt the

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favorite going into the game, much like Navy was this year.

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And then it was Army that was really doing the

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hunting or Navy doing the hunting last year, and this

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year it's going to be Army. It's only you know,

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six and five but you know, Black Knights have had

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a lot of success in these CIC games. I mean

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they won the CIC Trophy four out of the lace

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last eight season nine or six out of the last

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nine meetings versus Navy. But Monkin and the Black Knights

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thirteen and five in their last eighteen Service Academy games

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dating back to that Army Navy game in twenty sixteen.

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That's a high rate of success against Army and against

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Navy and Air Force even.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you look at what Army had in

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those games, you know, Army had the you know, for

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the for the last couple of them, they had the

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better quarterback. Uh, you know, obviously Bryson Daily being under centered.

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They don't have Bryson Daily this year. They also had

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the I think the more bruising of the running games.

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that this year, they they are I don't know, if

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you know, I don't want to say that they're they're

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having to play cute, but there this is not the

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wrecking ball that we're used to seeing with the with

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the Black Knights.

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Speaker 5: This year, that wrecking ball is on the other side.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you kind of saw it a little

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bit last year with with Alex Tesca and and what

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they were able to do. And I certainly think that,

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you know, Armies, uh running game took a big hit

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because of the transfer portal, you know obviously with with

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him leaving I I and going to Arizona State, and

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and that that I think is big because they really

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don't have outside of cal Hellms, they don't have someone

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that they can totally wholly depend on to get that

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yard that they need. You know, I really do think that,

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you know, whereas with with Navy, you know, obviously you're

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gonna trust Blake Corvath implicitly, but if you need, if

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you need a bowling ball to get a yard or

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seventy five again South Florida a couple of weeks ago,

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third on third and one, all of a sudden, sixty

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four yards later, he's in the end zone celebrating.

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Speaker 5: You know that's Alex Tesca.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know that. You know, Monkan was trying

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to get it with Kate Helms. You mentioned Kate Hellams

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and trying to get a yard. You remember, was it

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in the Air Force game where they tried to go

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for it on fourth and one, fourth and two. Yeah,

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they couldn't even get that yard. Now, granted it happens,

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but there have been several times this year.

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Speaker 3: I know it.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the stats right in front of me

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to see what army is on fourth down. Usually it's

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very good, but you know, they just don't have that bruiser.

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You know, if you will, it's really dominated. And no,

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nothing against Kate Hellams, but he is not a bright

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He's not Rice and Daily Bryce and Daily was a

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horse of a different color playing quarterback. I mean he

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was an animal playing quarterback. And that's not to take

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anything away from Helms. But you know, Navy, we obviously

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know that the dynamic kind of offense that Drew Chronic

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offensive coordinator is running with, you know, being able to

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throw the football. You know, Eli hedin Wright is such

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a weapon as a slot back slash wide receiver, and

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of course Alex Tesca and then Horvath running the football.

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But you and I always you and I know, and

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many of our listeners know this game comes down to

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several very basic things. Number one, who's gonna protect the football?

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Who who is going to play a turnover free clean game?

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Number one, Number two who can manufacture the yards on

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the ground, and number three at the big plays, because

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when you know each other so well, what is that

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one missed assignment that might allow for a sixty five

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yard you know, touchdown pass down the side, or a

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guy getting you know, loose up the middle on a

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really good trap block and he just bamed nothing but green,

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you know, from linebackers you know, to the to the

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end zone. You know, just those little things you know,

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that can turn into a big play, one little mistake.

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Speaker 3: That's typically what this.

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Speaker 2: Game comes down to oftentimes. So there's no doubt about it.

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When they know each other as well, and the coaches

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whol Minium have coached at both places, they recruited the

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same kids. That's exactly what it's going to come down

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to once again.

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Speaker 5: Stephen asolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And you were mentioning efficiency for the for Army, you know,

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just forty percent on third downs this year, sixty six

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of one hundred and sixty five, which it's it's not

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very good fourth downs, you know, they're up around seventy percent,

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but they had to go for it more than fifty

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times this year on fourth down they only mean thirty

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five of them, so so there were there were you know,

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sixteen times so far this year. That's an average of

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more than one per game that their opponent has gotten

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a short field of some sort. You know, whether it's

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you know, uh, you know, whether it's if that fourth

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down comes in the middle of the field or if

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it comes you know, on fourth and goal from the

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one that they aren't able to to to convert. But

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you know, so they've been able, you know, the opponents

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have been able to get they get get the ball

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back from Army without them, you know, scoring points on

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on sixteen occasions.

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Speaker 5: So more than one a game.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know, you can't wait, I know, I can't wait. Wait. Yeah, man,

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this is just the one that you just circle like.

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I love that.

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Speaker 2: One things I love is that college football stands still

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for this game. I hope that this game always has

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its own Saturday. I hope that never changes. Something tells

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me it will in the maybe not too distant future.

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But I hope this never changes because I love welcoming

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the Big Ten fans, SEC fans. I love you know,

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the people that are part of Alabama, Auburn and Iron Bowl.

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And you know, Florida, Florida state to be able to

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tune in and see football.

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Speaker 3: At its finest form. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know, with all due respect, I've got a

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cousin of mine that you know, he's a Georgia guy,

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and I'm not gonna I'm not going to get into

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too much, but you know, he we talked about Army

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Navy several times and he, you know, calls it the

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most boring game. I said, dude, you're just totally missing

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the point. And he's a massive college football fan, massive,

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but he doesn't get it because he's never been you know,

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he just says, I can't watch you know, boring football

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for you know, two and a half hours like.

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Speaker 3: That just puts me to bed and said, well, you

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just don't appreciate it. So I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't get why people call it boring football just

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because you know, they don't spread the they don't have

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you know, five wide receivers, they're not trying to throw

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the ball every down.

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Speaker 5: It becomes boring. It's strategic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what people don't That's what the people that

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say it's boring, that those people don't understand strategy in

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football and and what what football used to be.

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Speaker 5: It used to be a.

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Speaker 4: Game of of strategy and wearing down your opponent to

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the point where they have to tap out. You know,

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they're they're giving they're giving up, and and people that go, oh, well,

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it's just so boring. All they do is run the football,

479
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look at watch watch how they handle things pre snap,

480
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Watch the movement that comes pre snap, and then even

481
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during you know, after the ball is snapped, you know

482
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some of them, some of the motion that goes on,

483
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you know, and you're going, it's always fun to watch

484
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the camera. And you know, CBS says, cameramen that have

485
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been doing this for thirty, thirty five, forty years, and

486
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even now, you know, thirty years into this, they're they're

487
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they've got the they've got the camera on the guy

488
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that doesn't have the football. And I always find that

489
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fun because they're sneaky. They're sneaky guys out there at

490
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West Point and in Annapolis. So you gotta you gotta

491
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always keep your eyes open. You I have to be

492
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forever vigilant when you're watching Army Navy.

493
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Speaker 2: And I think it's I think the build up too, Steve,

494
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because when when you've got well and what I mean

495
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by the build up is, you know, I mean, it's

496
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it's you know three and out, three and out, three

497
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and out, and it's like it kind of builds because

498
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you're like it's breaking through first right exactly. To me,

499
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that is like I'm on the edge of my seat

500
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the longer that goes, like, I'm like, who is going

501
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to finally bust one?

502
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Speaker 3: Who is gonna make the big play?

503
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Speaker 2: A lot of times we know it's a it's a guy,

504
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an unsung hero kind of guy, you know, like the

505
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overtime stop a few years ago, or like a you know,

506
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somebody coming up out of the blue forcing a fumble

507
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and recovering it.

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Speaker 3: Just I love.

509
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Speaker 2: The unsung heroes where it's not maybe a Blake Cormath

510
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or Bryce and Daily or Eli heyden Wright that we've

511
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talked about so much. It's somebody that totally comes from

512
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off the radar that makes maybe the play that that

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they will walk into an o club forever and never

514
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pay for a drink the rest of their life. You know,

515
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that kind of game changing play because it went on

516
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Army Navy game.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's good stuff. I can't wait. Uh you know,

518
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I'm I'm with you. I hope they keep it separate.

519
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Love having its own Saturday, and you can put the

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Heisman Trophy award after it. I'm I'm okay with that.

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You know, if you want to, if you want to

522
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make some of the other college football awards around the

523
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game so you can keep you know, you know, if

524
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you wanted to have like the the Walter Camp Uh,

525
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you know award or the Maxwell or what or whatever

526
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you want.

527
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Speaker 5: If you want to have a college football.

528
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Speaker 4: Awards ceremony in the in the afternoon leading into it,

529
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and then have the Heisman after after the game, I'm

530
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okay with that. But yeah, let's let's not move this

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game and make it just another game on a rival

532
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arrivalry re weekend. This is a this is a this

533
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is this game is special and it deserves its own Saturday.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

535
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Speaker 2: For those going to the game wondering, you know, you

536
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can usually always see it on television. What if you're

537
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going the Brigadeimen Shipman, they will march on at twelve ten,

538
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and then the core Cadets there march on will be

539
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at twelve forty h The exchange of prisoners that will

540
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be at two forty five.

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Speaker 5: Those it's so much fun.

542
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

543
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Speaker 2: The Elite Frogs and Gold Knights will be at two

544
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forty eight, National Anthem three oh one and the Navy

545
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,440
flyover at three oh five when the Midshipman take the field,

546
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follow by forty five seconds later the Army flyover and

547
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the Black Knights taking the field second and kickoff at

548
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three ten. So it is around the corner Stephen Were's

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days away. Before we get into our guest interviews, want

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to mention the Bowl games because the Bowl matchups were

551
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,559
announced on Sunday, and we did record with with Joe

552
00:27:05,599 --> 00:27:10,279
Miller and Sal before the matchups or the Bowl matchups

553
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,960
were announced on Sunday, So programming note that that we

554
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talked to both our guests before we found out bold

555
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,119
destinations for for Army and Navy. But the Wassabi Fenway Bowl,

556
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it'll be yukon nine and three overall versus Army.

557
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Obviously six and five.

558
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: That the Wassabi Fenway Bowl, of course, will be played

559
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,480
at Finway Pac in Boston on Saturday, December twenty seventh,

560
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,200
two fifteen kickoff A week to me a weird kickoff time,

561
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but two fifteen on Saturday December twenty seventh on ESPN.

562
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I believe Army, well, no I thought I had a

563
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line on that.

564
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Speaker 4: One line yet, okay, because because they were they're gonna

565
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,799
wait yeah after Army Navy to put out that line.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

567
00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:56,559
Speaker 2: So an awesome destination for for Army staying in the

568
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Northeast and what.

569
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Speaker 4: Will be annormation that I wish that Florida had gotten

570
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because I was like, I was like, I would much

571
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rather have gone or had the South Florida Bulls at

572
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fen at Fenway for the Fenway Bowl, and then Army

573
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:12,920
could have played where USF is at the Cure Bowl

574
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:17,200
in Orlando, UH at Camping World Stadium against Old Dominion.

575
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,319
But uh, you know, I'm excited for for Army. It's

576
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,680
a great it's a great Bullet's one of the four

577
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,839
bowl games that the American Conference has to have UH

578
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,279
a member in. So you knew that there was going

579
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to be somebody UH in there and and you know,

580
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:38,000
good on the UH on the Black Nights they're gonna

581
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:40,400
you know, it's good. It's good for the cork deets.

582
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,559
You know, it's an easy it's an easy ride up there.

583
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,319
It's two days after Christmas, so you know, you don't

584
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have to worry about getting back for a for a

585
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,200
class that following Monday yet, so it'll be a good.

586
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Speaker 3: One, all right.

587
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: And then the Navy min shipman they of course are

588
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,880
goaling bowling as well. Mayvy will be heading to Liberty

589
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:04,880
or they'll excuse me Memphis to take to play in

590
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,079
the Liberty Bowl, the AutoZone Liberty Bowl. That is so

591
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,680
going to a familiar place in Memphis, Tennessee. Maybe nine

592
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,599
and two going to be taking on Cincinnati's seven and

593
00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:19,720
five the AutoZone Liberty Bowl, Steven. That's gonna be a Friday,

594
00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:24,279
January the second showdown at four thirty pm on ESPN.

595
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:27,880
So a place where Navy certainly had a big moment

596
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,279
just on Thanksgiving weekend just just recently. They will be

597
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,400
going back there where they played what was in a

598
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,200
thriller against Kansas State that came down to the end.

599
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:37,799
It was one of the best Bowl games of the

600
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,839
entire season just a few short years ago.

601
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:40,519
Speaker 5: Yep.

602
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,039
Speaker 4: And of course, as you mentioned, you know, Navy got

603
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:47,000
a big win over Memphis in that in that very

604
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:49,880
building just a couple of weeks ago, and so now

605
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,880
they go back for seconds. Obviously nobody got enough of

606
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,119
the rendezvous while they were there.

607
00:29:56,279 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: So so it's.

608
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:01,559
Speaker 4: Gonna be ribs for days as they go back on

609
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
right after New Year's you know, to start twenty twenty

610
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,319
six with the Liberty Bowl matchup against that.

611
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 5: He should be a good one.

612
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Speaker 2: All right, Let's pivot to our guests, because coming up next,

613
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,960
Joe Miller, the play by play voice of the Navy

614
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440
Men Shipman, certainly has seen a lot. We talk about

615
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,359
some of the big moments Navies had this year. We

616
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,400
certainly talk about our good friend Pete Medhurst, who, yes,

617
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who lost his battle with cancer at the very beginning

618
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,319
of the season. So we talked with Joe about that

619
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and a whole lot more. Here are on Yards and Stripes,

620
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,599
your home for Service Academy Football is. We're part of

621
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,319
the College Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast network also available

622
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and last we're on sports dot Com. Stephen tell everybody

623
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what else they can find this week and throughout bowl season,

624
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:46,880
playoff season on the College Gridirn Coast to Coast podcast Network.

625
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is very.

626
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: Bowl heavy this week when it comes to the of

627
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,839
the other podcasts, as expected here on College Gridiron Coast

628
00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,039
to Coast. Of course, this week in the ACC, the

629
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,559
guys are definitely talking talking a lot about Dukes win

630
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,440
in the ACC Championship game over Virginia, a five lost

631
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,960
duke team that caused chaos when it came to the

632
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,119
college football playoffs. There are two group of five teams

633
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200
in this year and that is caused every pundit that

634
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,440
I have heard to lose their collective minds. You know,

635
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,240
oh my god, you can't have both Tulane and James

636
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,839
Madison in.

637
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,759
Speaker 5: Where's Notre Dame?

638
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,839
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, you know, So there's there's a

639
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,440
lot of that this week when it comes to this

640
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,960
week in the ACC as they only got one team

641
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,119
in and it wasn't the champion. It was only Miami

642
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,160
that is in for the ACC and the College Football Playoff.

643
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Of course, Get Off My Pylon out West Matt SEMK

644
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,160
talking a lot about Oregon and their turn in the

645
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,319
College Football Playoff as they will actually be playing James

646
00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,240
Madison in that first game of the of the college

647
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:04,960
football Playoffs, so they there's plenty of talk there from

648
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,359
from Get Off My Pylon, Pigskin and Burnt Ends talking

649
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,160
about Texas not getting in to the College Football Playoff,

650
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,920
but of course Texas Tech getting a bye in the

651
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:18,400
in it as well.

652
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,039
Speaker 5: So and Texas A and M as well.

653
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: So you've you've got you've got great Texas football from

654
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,720
Pigskin and Burnt Ends. And then of course the Big

655
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:34,160
twelve sec breakdown with Tyler Jones and Thomas Bridges talking

656
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,880
all about the college football Playoff and Florida Football Insiders

657
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,079
going heavy on Brian Hartline, the Ohio State offensive coordinator

658
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:46,400
who this week was named the new head coach of

659
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,519
the South Florida Bulls. What a get by by USF

660
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,119
to get to get Brian Hartline to come. So there's

661
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,119
plenty of that and more on the College Gridiron Coast

662
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:58,559
to Coast podcast Network this week.

663
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Speaker 2: We got something forever everybody, Steven, we have something for everybody.

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Indeed the producer djore that sets the table for all

665
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,240
the great college football action on the College cur on

666
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,039
Coast podcast Network. But we're going to talk a lot

667
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:14,440
more about Army and number twenty two Navy the one

668
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:19,160
hundred and twenty six meeting of America's Game on us

669
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are but presented by USAA Saturday in Baltimore, M and

670
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T Bank Stadium. We're talking about the navymanshipman. When we

671
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come out with Joe Miller, the Navy Playboy play voice

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here on Yards and Stripes.

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and we have a very special guest. We're gonna talk

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some Navy football as the number twenty three, number twenty

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three ranked Navy midshipman nine and two on the season,

708
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obviously prepping for Army getting ready this obviously this Saturday,

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but we're going to talk with the voice of the

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Navy Midshipman, Joe Miller. Some might have known, and I guess,

711
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going back now, it's probably twenty six years since I

712
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first met him in somewhere around circa two thousand, when

713
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Scott Strasmyer hired me there. So it's been a while, Joe,

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but it's damn good to see your smiling face.

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Speaker 3: Brother. How are you?

716
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,559
Speaker 7: Thank you, Pryce.

717
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 8: It's it it's been a long time that we met.

718
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 7: I mean I was. You know.

719
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 8: It's funny because obviously you know Scott and Stacey they're

720
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,880
still there, and I used to be the young guy

721
00:35:57,079 --> 00:36:04,000
amongst the group. Now I'm right with them as the

722
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,119
veterans of the group. But yes, we had some fun

723
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,199
times back in our early twenties.

724
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: I used to don't lie here, Joe, you're still the

725
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,920
young guy compared to Scotten States.

726
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,559
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, that's why I like that they're still there.

727
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:21,920
I mean, my reference is they get some of the

728
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,760
younger people.

729
00:36:25,159 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: You know, Joe.

730
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,559
Speaker 2: I always I joked with my wife from time to time,

731
00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:29,840
because I met my wife when she was GA at

732
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,519
the Academy.

733
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,599
Speaker 3: I always joke with her.

734
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 2: I said, there's one place I can go ahead and

735
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,000
guarantee I made the best career decision.

736
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: It was.

737
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: Unfortunately it was leaving the Naval Academy. But the reason

738
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,960
I say that is because the three people in the

739
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,639
office that were ahead of me, they're still ahead of me.

740
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,920
They would still be ahead of me if I worked there,

741
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,039
and that was twenty.

742
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: Six years ago.

743
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's just an affirming thing when I

744
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,280
see Justin, Stacey and Scott still running the show, but

745
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,920
you're running the show with the Navy Radio Network obviously

746
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,360
the Playboy play Voice. But let's just go back, just

747
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000
real quick, because we talked a few minutes before we

748
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:07,360
started recording about our good friend Pete Medhurst, one of

749
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,480
your best friends, if not your best friend, somebody I

750
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,960
knew going back twenty six years who obviously tragically passed

751
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,159
away to cancer back in January. And we're not going

752
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,440
to go back and recount the tough times, but I

753
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:25,039
know he was somebody that meant so much to you,

754
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,840
especially in this craft of broadcasting, because you guys would

755
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,840
do podcasts together.

756
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,159
Speaker 3: You guys would do across I mean, you guys would

757
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:32,519
hop in.

758
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: The car and go do a game on any if

759
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,920
they would give you the airtime, you guys would do it.

760
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,880
And that's how close and tight you were, Joe. So

761
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:43,400
I mean, just obviously moving over into that chair he

762
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,480
occupied for so long, I know that's just an incredible

763
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,440
honor for you.

764
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt.

765
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 8: And it's funny because you know, I go back to

766
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,320
the first game this season, and I knew I probably

767
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,599
should have expected it, but it didn't really hit me

768
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,519
until you know, in radio you have the the intro

769
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:03,400
voicers and everything like that, and they introduced me as

770
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,119
the voice of the Midshipman. And honestly, I probably should.

771
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 7: Have known that was coming, but it took me by surprise.

772
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 8: And I actually kind of stumble over the first couple

773
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,519
of words because I was like, oh, snap, I'm actually

774
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,480
am that guy. Because I honestly, even though I did

775
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,840
the games last season after he got sick, I didn't.

776
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,239
I didn't think of myself that way, and I still

777
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,679
to some degree don't think of myself that way. I

778
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:30,159
think of him as the voice of the Midshipman, and

779
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:32,920
and I look like, I like, I know you when

780
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,079
I was, you know, twenty years old. I mean I

781
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,480
I started doing Navy stuff. I was still in college,

782
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960
and I met Pete when I was, you know, nineteen

783
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:43,400
years old.

784
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 7: I you know, it's funny.

785
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,679
Speaker 8: I when I spoke at his funeral, I talked about

786
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,639
how he went to the same high school that I

787
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:51,920
went to, but I was about ten years younger than him.

788
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 7: But you know, I always looked older.

789
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 8: So people like thought we like went to the same

790
00:38:58,119 --> 00:38:59,679
high school and stuff like that. I mean, we went

791
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:01,360
to the same high school but were class buddies and

792
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,360
stuff like that. But actually the first time I ever

793
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:09,159
heard his name, my oldest sister was in his graduating class,

794
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:11,440
and she had a boyfriend at the time that used

795
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,119
to make fun of me because you know, I was,

796
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,920
you know what, eight nine years old, and I was like,

797
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,280
I would do these box scores because I was a

798
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,000
sports fan. I would come home from school and I

799
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,199
would get the box scores from the newspaper and I'd

800
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,679
write my own stats out. And he's like, he would

801
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,760
make fun of me, like you're you think you know

802
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,679
you're you're like that weirdo, Pete Medhurst. And I'm like,

803
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,880
I never even knew who he was until because you know,

804
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,760
he was big into sports and he was, you know,

805
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,719
broadcasting and stuff like I didn't even know who. I

806
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,519
knew the name, but I didn't really know him till

807
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:44,159
I met him one day because we're both from relatively

808
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,119
the same area, and he came into my dad's garage.

809
00:39:47,159 --> 00:39:49,320
My dad used to own a garage and a gas station,

810
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,679
and he introduced myself and honestly, like the next week

811
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,039
I did a radio show with him.

812
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 7: So so it.

813
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,119
Speaker 8: Was a and like you said, we tried to, you know,

814
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,440
both trying to get our ways in the in the broadcasting.

815
00:40:03,519 --> 00:40:05,480
I had no idea what the heck I was doing,

816
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,639
and he helped me along the way. And I like

817
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:10,960
to think I helped him along the way with different

818
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,159
things as well. And yeah, it's it really hit me

819
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:16,960
at the beginning of the season, and I still kind

820
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,880
of I still kind of chuckle every time I hear

821
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,760
the sounder because I still really don't think of myself

822
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,400
that way. And and to me, he will always be there.

823
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,280
I have a little thing in the booth at home

824
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,000
at Abra Marine Corps Memorial Stadium, a little sticker that

825
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:35,760
we got last season when we were down to the

826
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,880
bowl game, they had all these they wore these PM

827
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920
stickers for Pete Mehurst down there, and I had that

828
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,559
in the booth and I think of him every time

829
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,840
I go in there, and I don't know if that's

830
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,119
ever gonna change. So so yeah, it's it's a it's

831
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:55,639
a it's been a great year, but uh, you know,

832
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,840
he got me where I'm at and you know, I'm

833
00:40:59,079 --> 00:41:01,360
I'm forever grateful for that, and he was a great

834
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,000
friend of mine.

835
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:05,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the great year. I

836
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,679
have to ask you, as someone that has known Michael

837
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,559
Kelly for the last seven or eight years, being down

838
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:16,559
here in the Tampa Bay region. Of course he came

839
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,079
to the Naval Academy from the University of South Florida,

840
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:24,119
I just would love to hear your experience in year

841
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:25,480
one under Michael Kelly.

842
00:41:26,199 --> 00:41:29,159
Speaker 8: I'm blown away by how great a person he is.

843
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,000
You know, It's it's interesting, like because of when he

844
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:37,599
was hired, and I do both the men's and women's

845
00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:41,599
soccer for Navy as well and ESPN. Plus you know,

846
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:44,840
I probably got to meet him pretty you know, a

847
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,480
lot sooner than a lot of other people got to

848
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,440
meet him because you know, we were doing you know,

849
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,440
women's soccer games in the middle of August. You know,

850
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,400
they start a little bit earlier than football, so you know,

851
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,360
I got a chance to meet him. Then he was

852
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,119
at every game. It's amazing how many games he gets to.

853
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:06,079
But he is a tremendously nice person, warm, you know,

854
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,599
It's it's one of those things where you never you're

855
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:11,400
meeting somebody for the first time, and obviously he's a

856
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:12,320
he's a big deal.

857
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 7: He's the athletic director. You want to make a good impression.

858
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 8: But he kind of eases any sort of fear that

859
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,559
you have about that the way in the manner in

860
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:24,320
which he communicates. So it's been a it's amazing. It's

861
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,360
been amazing to get to know him. Uh, you know,

862
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,400
he's he's at a tremendous amount of events. Like I said,

863
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,360
so I see him all the time. We do a

864
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
pregame interview each and every week on the on the

865
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,079
radio network. And uh, it's been a joy to work

866
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,000
with so far. And uh, like I said, you couldn't

867
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,239
meet a nicer man.

868
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,679
Speaker 2: As we're talking with Joe Miller, the Playboy play voice

869
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:48,480
of the Navy Midshipman. Here on you archs and stripes,

870
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:52,199
let's go one row or one rung under the totem

871
00:42:52,199 --> 00:42:54,679
pole or down the totem pole there, you know, under

872
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,039
Michael Kelly and that's Brian Newberry. Joe, there's a lot

873
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,960
of handwringing and I'll throw my hand up, you know,

874
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:02,559
as high as it goes.

875
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: You know.

876
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,559
Speaker 2: When Ken Neamatalolo was shown shown the door, and a

877
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:07,079
lot of it was the way he was shown the

878
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:11,039
door by by Chuck Glad Chuck. But you know, obviously

879
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,599
you have a couple of years to let things settle

880
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,519
and see how things are going to go. And I

881
00:43:15,519 --> 00:43:17,800
don't think many Navy fans at this point were probably

882
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,280
bad and I at that decision.

883
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,199
Speaker 3: But what is Brian Newberry? How has he?

884
00:43:22,599 --> 00:43:25,039
Speaker 2: You know, kind of I don't want to say engineer

885
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,519
to turn around, if you will, because Navy football has

886
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,039
never really been far from the top. But you know,

887
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,239
going five and seven, but then ten and three last

888
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,599
year and sitting on the precipice of another, you know,

889
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,199
potential double digit win season. You know, is the head

890
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,320
of the midshipman? How has he done it? What is

891
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,800
different about Brian Newberry?

892
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, they've never won back to back ten

893
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:48,000
games in a in a season, never done that back

894
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:50,239
to back years, which they're on the obviously on the

895
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,840
cusp of doing as you said, you know, Brian is

896
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,280
another He's a tremendous person first and foremost. Again that

897
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,920
I think it starts there, but I think, you know,

898
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,119
I go back to when you were there and Paul

899
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:06,760
Johnson got there, and this this expect to win mentality

900
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,760
that was that needed to be embedded into this football

901
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,199
program and it and I don't think it lost its

902
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,679
way along the way, but I think maybe it just,

903
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,119
you know, things got I hate using the word stale,

904
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,679
because I don't think that's the right word, but I

905
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:29,559
think things just needed an adjustment and an interjection.

906
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 7: Of somebody else.

907
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 8: And and that's taking nothing away from Kenny and the

908
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,840
tremendous job that he did, But I think that what

909
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,760
Brian has brought to the equation is relentless pursuit of winning.

910
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,599
Speaker 7: I mean that there is I think something to be said.

911
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 8: For you know, it's funny because all these guys get hired,

912
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,039
most of them are offensive guys, you know, a defensive

913
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,920
side of the football field. As far as head coaches

914
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
are concerned, I don't give a lot of love a

915
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,559
lot of times.

916
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,639
Speaker 7: Obviously there are a lot of dif and coaches that

917
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:01,320
are head coaches.

918
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 8: But I do think sometimes it brings a different mentality

919
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,119
to the position. And I think he's always been since

920
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:10,280
he got here in twenty nineteen, he was always some

921
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,400
guy that a guy that was on the precipice of attacking.

922
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:15,960
He wanted to put you on your heels defensively, and

923
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,360
I think he has taken that to a team wide

924
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,599
approach this season, not only this season, but in the

925
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:24,639
years past, and I think that's a big part of it.

926
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,119
Speaker 7: And they really do believe in him. There's no doubt

927
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:28,519
about that.

928
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:34,039
Speaker 8: He's built. I mean, the culture was already there, but

929
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:39,079
it is just it really is something special that's going

930
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,159
on here the last couple of years. And I think

931
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:46,559
carrying over the momentum last season, not only the win

932
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:49,480
against Army, but the win against Oklahoma last year in

933
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,960
the bowl game, it carried over this entire offseason and

934
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,559
I think that was at least early on this season

935
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,519
yet a sense of how special this season could be

936
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:03,159
because of what happened last year. And sometimes people will say, well,

937
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,079
you know, it's really momentum go year to year, and

938
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:08,480
I really think it did go year or year with

939
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,639
this team, and I think it's just taken off and

940
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,480
right now they've developed something that's really special. I mean,

941
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,559
it's I know everybody says this about teams, but it

942
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,320
is a team first mentality and that's what he's always

943
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,239
talked about. And you know, he's had a tremendous amount

944
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,280
of success, and you know, I don't see it anytime soon.

945
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,639
Speaker 7: I mean, they've really built something.

946
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 8: Special here with these guys, and I know they have

947
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,079
sort of a historic senior class of offensive talent and

948
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:42,039
Landon Robinson on the defensive side. So it's gonna be

949
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:46,880
tough to replace those guys going forward. But there really

950
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,639
is a strong belief in Brian Newberry and and I

951
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:52,840
think that drives a lot of this.

952
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 5: I'm kind of curious, Joe.

953
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 4: You mentioned Brian's dry of relentless and you know, and

954
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:06,000
of course last year's game where Army came in the

955
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:09,119
huge favorite, you know, Rice and Daily and the show

956
00:47:09,199 --> 00:47:15,679
and winning the American Conference championship before the Army Navy game,

957
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:19,199
and then Navy coming up and punching them in the mouth,

958
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,400
so you know, to probably make it as blunt as possible,

959
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:30,679
I'm curious if they learned something from last year's game

960
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:33,920
that would help them not have that happen to them,

961
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,960
because it almost seems like the shoe is on the

962
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,440
other foot.

963
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 8: Yeh yeah, I think they're I mean, I think the

964
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,239
shoe is on the other foot this year. As far

965
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,400
as like the perception of the game. Like, I think

966
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,880
a lot of people from the Navy perspective going into

967
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,639
last year thought, well, yeah, Armies having a great season,

968
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,559
but we know what that personnel is like, we know

969
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:57,599
what that team is like, and I don't think they

970
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,239
looked at it as oh, we're a big underdog coming

971
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,800
into this game.

972
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 7: And I'm granting.

973
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 8: That Army coming into this year is also having the

974
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,320
same conversations like, we know what this team wants to do,

975
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,199
we know the personnel, We're not going to be surprised

976
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,199
by anything. I think it was the public perception a

977
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,920
little bit more last year than within the two football programs.

978
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,960
But I think there's probably look, they want to win trophies,

979
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,760
they want to win things, There's no doubt about that. So, yes,

980
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,039
they beat Memphis, and we kind of sat around to

981
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:28,320
see what would happen on Friday with Temple and what

982
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,639
would happen with Charlotte on Saturday, and they were certainly

983
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:32,519
ready to play in.

984
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 7: The American Conference Championship game.

985
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 8: But I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that

986
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,920
they're not playing in the championship because of the schedule

987
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,000
with service academies and trying to figure out guys going

988
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:47,719
away for Thanksgiving and all that stuff that would have

989
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,960
been complicating the message coming into this week and then

990
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,119
also have an Army on the back end on the

991
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:55,559
next week. So I think that helps Navy to some

992
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:58,000
regard when it comes to this game. So, yes, they

993
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,519
wanted to play in the American Conference Championship game, but

994
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,719
I think you know, not having to play in that

995
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,679
game is it is certainly going to help them a

996
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,280
little bit coming into the game against Army, But I

997
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,199
think they know what the deal is.

998
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:10,679
Speaker 9: Like.

999
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 7: I don't think anybody goes into this.

1000
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,559
Speaker 8: Game like, uh, you know, wide eyed and not ready

1001
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:19,880
for what's gonna happen on Saturday. So I think they'll

1002
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,760
be ready from that perspective, but it probably does help

1003
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,559
a little bit. It'll be interesting to see what the

1004
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,239
build up for this game is because last year it

1005
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,239
was more on the Navy side of I mean on

1006
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,719
more on the Army side of things.

1007
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 7: It'll be interesting to see how the public perception of

1008
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,760
this game coming in it will be.

1009
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:40,159
Speaker 8: I'm guessing it's going to be more favored on from

1010
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:43,039
the Navy perspective and what their season has, especially coming

1011
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:45,679
off of you know, Thanksgiving Day victory over Memphis. But

1012
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,960
I don't think it's going to change the way they

1013
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,119
prepare or the mentality for this game.

1014
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 2: All right, just we begin wrapping up with Joe Miller. Joe,

1015
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:57,440
it's certainly doesn't happen on this podcast because we're called

1016
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,360
yard and striped Service Academy Football. So Service Academy Football

1017
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,000
does not get.

1018
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,599
Speaker 3: A bad rap here.

1019
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:04,199
Speaker 2: But nationally, you know, you hear the you know the

1020
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,840
ground and pound. You know, it's a one trick pony.

1021
00:50:09,039 --> 00:50:11,800
That's not the case this year for the Navy midshipman,

1022
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,639
especially with a guy named Blake Corvath direct in that offense.

1023
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,719
You've seen a lot of great quarterbacks that have come

1024
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,679
through the academy, especially in recent memory of Malcolm Perry,

1025
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,519
the Keenan Reynolds, and it's so many others. Blake Krvath

1026
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,800
is a horse of a different color. He gives that

1027
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,760
dimension where he has full command of that offense and

1028
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,039
can run the triple option. But this is a guy

1029
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:34,840
that can go back and sling the football, and to me,

1030
00:50:35,079 --> 00:50:38,559
that's a reason why that this Navy team is maybe

1031
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:43,079
more dangerous, just maybe much different, you know, and being

1032
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,440
able to line up and go toe to toe with

1033
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,199
a South Florida or a Memphis like they did and win.

1034
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,440
When you watch this Navy offense operate, how is it different?

1035
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:55,199
Speaker 3: You know, obviously they're.

1036
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: Throwing the ball more, but it just seems like it's

1037
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,440
a more versatile. It's got more weapons, certainly a senior

1038
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,519
led weaponry, and a lot of the different offensive skill positions.

1039
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:07,039
But this just seems like it has just a different

1040
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:10,320
field than almost any Navy offense has had in many years.

1041
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think the thing that is the biggest

1042
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,079
difference in my estimation and being around the team is

1043
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:21,400
there are more there's more adjustments to be made in

1044
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:23,679
case of what a team is doing in the way

1045
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,360
you're attacking them defensively, because I think in years past

1046
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,679
it was very much like let's wait and see how

1047
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,199
the team lines up and make adjustments, Like you know,

1048
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,840
we'll see how they line up, and then we'll make

1049
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,800
adjustments to what they're doing. They make adjustments, and this

1050
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:40,960
team is a little bit more on the front foot,

1051
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,400
if you will, that they want to attack and they

1052
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,400
want to sort of make the defense make their.

1053
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 7: Own adjustments, you know.

1054
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 8: And I think what you've seen is a versatile attack.

1055
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,599
Speaker 7: I mean, you think the thing. You're right.

1056
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 8: I mean, I think there's a lot of times where

1057
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,199
the national perspective is we're like doing this with the know,

1058
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:04,679
smoking mirrors, somehow weird way. Nyve just wins games and

1059
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:06,760
you know, at the end of the day they have

1060
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,320
three hundred yards rushing and you know whatever, it's just

1061
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,840
some weird thing that happens and they win games. But

1062
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,639
they're not tricking anybody with that from that perspective. And look,

1063
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:18,920
the talent is really good on these Elfins's side of

1064
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,239
the football field. I mean, they have a chance. You know,

1065
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,960
it's the numbers need to get there, because I think

1066
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,639
TESCA right now is closing in on eight hundred yards rushing.

1067
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,800
They have a chance as an offense this season to

1068
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,360
have two thousand yard rushers. Four vasts already over that

1069
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,239
at this point that Tesca is, you know, two hundred

1070
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,079
plus yards away. They have a chance to have two

1071
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:46,280
one thousand thousand yard rushers one thousand yard receiver hide

1072
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,360
and right is that eight oh five with two games

1073
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,039
to go. Navy's never had a one thousand yard receiver,

1074
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,360
and I didn't necessarily think I'd see the day when

1075
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,800
they would have an a thousand yard receiver, and they

1076
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,320
could also have possibility of a quarterback that throws for

1077
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,360
fifteen hundred yards. That's probably of the things you know,

1078
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:04,679
Horvass at thirteen ninety right now. So but to say

1079
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,440
that a Service Academy team could have two one thousand

1080
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:11,639
yard rushers, a fifteen hundred yard passer, and a one

1081
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:16,000
thousand yard receiver, I mean, that's really unheard of from

1082
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,199
that perspective. And Eli Heinreich to me, is the difference

1083
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:25,280
maker in all of this to the degree that he

1084
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,599
is a special a really special player, you know. I

1085
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:31,599
think he's a guy that a lot of scouts are

1086
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:33,119
very interested at the next level.

1087
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 7: What happens with that will see.

1088
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,599
Speaker 8: But he has gotten a lot of attention this season,

1089
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,679
and he's a special player unlike a lot of players

1090
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,639
that they've had at Navy, and I think he allows

1091
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,639
them to do some things in the passing game that

1092
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:48,519
maybe they haven't been able to do in the past.

1093
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,519
Speaker 7: But Horrorvask the kind of you know, the straw.

1094
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 8: That stirs the drink from that perspective, and he's been

1095
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,239
very adept this season. Drew Chronic came into this season

1096
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,679
first couple of weeks and said, look, we've given Blake

1097
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,039
a lot more to work with. You know, last year

1098
00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,199
is his first year in the system. This year, we're

1099
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,880
allowing him to make adjustments of the line of scrimmage.

1100
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,159
We're giving Blake a little bit more of a knownus

1101
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:15,280
to take this system on by his own own. And

1102
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,280
I think you've seen that this season from Blake. And look,

1103
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,559
he had a string of I think five hundred yard

1104
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,519
rushing games in a row. He obviously had the huge

1105
00:54:25,559 --> 00:54:29,039
passing day against air Force earlier this season. I thought

1106
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:33,519
you saw the perfect you know, balance last game against Memphis.

1107
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:39,440
So I mean the offense to me is you mentioned

1108
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,840
some of the guys before, like Malcolm Perry and Keenan Reynolds.

1109
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:46,840
You know that was a more run oriented, explosive type

1110
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,039
of offense. They still have that portion, but they've added

1111
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,960
the explosiveness in the passing game. And I think this

1112
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:57,360
is as dangerous a Navy offense is. I think I've

1113
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,559
ever seen from that perspective that they can get you

1114
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:03,800
a couple multiple different ways. And the fact that the

1115
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:09,039
talent level at those skill positions is so high, that's

1116
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:12,079
what kind of separates you know, will Worth had a

1117
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,960
great season individually, slightly better numbers than Blake coming into

1118
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,239
this year. You know, Keenan obviously had unbelievable rushing numbers

1119
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,440
and touchdowns and everything. But they've kind of all put

1120
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,960
it together this year with this group, and I think

1121
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:29,639
that's what kind of separates them from what you've seen

1122
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,719
in the past and Navy offenses.

1123
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 4: As we wrap things up with Joe Miller, the voice

1124
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:38,400
of Navy football here on Yards and Stripes, Joe, I'm

1125
00:55:38,519 --> 00:55:40,280
kind of cure. I was kind of curious, you know,

1126
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,159
being a Navy guy, I was enlisted, so I never

1127
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:46,920
got a chance to be in Annapolis for any of

1128
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,880
these games. You know, sucks to be me, but I'm

1129
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,079
you know, but I remember the was it thirteen or

1130
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:59,800
fourteen straight years that that Navy beat Army in this game,

1131
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,880
and then things have started to swing started to swing

1132
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,480
back the other way. I'm curious as to what you

1133
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,519
think this senior classes legacy is winning this If they

1134
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:10,519
win this game.

1135
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,559
Speaker 8: I mean, if they win this game and they go

1136
00:56:13,679 --> 00:56:16,960
out and obviously get back to back ten win seasons,

1137
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,840
which nobody's ever accomplished, and then it's look, I think

1138
00:56:22,599 --> 00:56:25,519
I was debating this with the with Mike James, who's uh,

1139
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,320
you know, we were talking about this and sort of

1140
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,719
trying to wait till the final numbers come in to

1141
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:35,480
sort of make our grand uh you know, assessments of

1142
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,079
the senior class. But they I think they have an

1143
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,199
outshot shot of being one of the best in the

1144
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,760
history of Navy football if they go out and win

1145
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,760
uh you know, back to back ce ICs, depending on

1146
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,760
what they do in the bowl game. I think there's

1147
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,559
I think you can write that story, you can make

1148
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:56,519
that case that Look, I mean we haven't even talked

1149
00:56:56,519 --> 00:56:58,840
about the defensive I mean it's crazy that Landon Robinson

1150
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,880
won the American Conference of Intive Player of the Year.

1151
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,079
I mean that is that is an unbelievable achievement for

1152
00:57:04,119 --> 00:57:09,079
a Navy football player. And you know, so this this

1153
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:11,920
senior class has a lot of things, a lot of

1154
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,920
feathers in their cap right now, and I think you

1155
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,840
could make a pretty good uh you know, we could

1156
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,119
start that conversation about where they rank amongst great senior

1157
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:27,679
classes in Naval Academy football history. And we got to

1158
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:29,960
wait till the final numbers come in, but I they're

1159
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:30,400
up there.

1160
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 7: There's no doubt about that.

1161
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 8: I mean, you can make a case with these guys,

1162
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,559
and I think I think there will be multiple guys

1163
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,880
from this team, you know, whatever we see what happens

1164
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,480
going forward, that are gonna be guys that that have

1165
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:47,400
good NFL careers and we'll see where that takes them

1166
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:50,880
if they get that opportunity, and like then you could

1167
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,880
make a real Then that's the cherry on the top

1168
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,119
when you talk about this team. But I think they're

1169
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,599
up there and if you if you come away with

1170
00:57:57,639 --> 00:58:01,039
another victory, that's really saying something. And then you look

1171
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,159
at the where they sit in the American Conference right now,

1172
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:06,800
they tie for the conference championship. I know they're not

1173
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,440
technically playing in then they're a regular season champion. That's

1174
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,559
a heck of accomplishment obviously, just like Armies accomplish it

1175
00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,480
to win the championship last year in their championship game

1176
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:21,079
against Tulane, is is an amazing accomplishment. This is right

1177
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:24,880
there with them. And I think if you go back

1178
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,320
to back then you and you do win ten games

1179
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,760
for the first time in a row back to back years,

1180
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,719
that you're talking something special. So I'll wait Steve to

1181
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:37,440
get the final numbers before we make any gulations at

1182
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,360
this point, but they're right up there, that's for sure.

1183
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:41,559
Speaker 3: Joe.

1184
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: Have known you a long time, brother, I really, we

1185
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:45,119
really appreciate this.

1186
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:48,719
Speaker 3: It's been a while. It's been a long while.

1187
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,159
Speaker 2: But I also know that this Saturday, calling this game,

1188
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you did it last year. You've been a part of

1189
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,719
this game for a long time, you know, But calling

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00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,679
this game what it means to service men women Not

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00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,679
here you're just to hear at home, but in all

1192
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:04,719
corners of the globe and all hours of the night morning,

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00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:07,800
you know, and especially the first one that we will

1194
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,599
be without Pete.

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00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:10,559
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a little it's.

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00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 2: Gonna have a little bit of special more specialness to

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00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,880
it on on Saturday, Joe. But we we just, I mean,

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00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,199
we just can't say thank you enough.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: You've been a friend for like I said, a long time.

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00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,119
And just have a great call because I know I

1202
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,639
enjoy listening to you and Rich Rich DeMarco who calls Army.

1203
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:29,880
I listened enjoy listening to y'all's calls, you know all year.

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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,679
You guys are two of the best. But just can't

1205
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:34,880
wait to hear you on the mike again on Saturday.

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00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,039
Speaker 8: Joe, I appreciate it, Price, and I will always remember

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00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:40,599
going into the uh uh.

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00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 7: Picking up andre Ware with you for one.

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 3: Of the.

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00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 8: Pick andre Ware. I don't know why I was there.

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00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,760
I honestly don't even remember why I was there.

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00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: But it's it's crazy that you.

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00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,559
Speaker 2: I told that story literally just five days ago to somebody,

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01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,000
and I will tell it right now. As we went

1215
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:04,239
to I think we it helped me out. We went

1216
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,440
and picked him up at the airport where we were

1217
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,199
going to dinner, and we were going down West Street.

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01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,840
I get lost and we're in my tahoe is me

1219
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,360
and andre were and Joe and I think we're getting

1220
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,840
ready to go to the like the pre you know,

1221
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,400
the dinner we have when the TV guys are in town.

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,639
And I take a wrong turn. I hang a left,

1223
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:23,920
and we are in a not a very good spot,

1224
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,159
let's just put it that way, and andre andre Wear

1225
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:30,360
is in the back seat and he says he starts

1226
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,400
looking around, like well where are we? And I was like, well,

1227
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,239
I'm not exactly sure. And he says, Price, go up

1228
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:38,559
here and do a loop. Let's let's get out of here,

1229
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,039
he said. And I remember him specifically saying Price, if

1230
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,360
anybody comes to the window, let me do the talking.

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01:00:47,039 --> 01:00:49,639
Speaker 5: I figured Andre just hit him with his Heisman trophy.

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: Oh god, Joe would have to bring that special moment

1233
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,039
off and one I never wanted to tell Strass about

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01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:55,360
if we.

1235
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,119
Speaker 3: Had gotten killed.

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01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:02,079
Speaker 5: Oh my god, leave it to.

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01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: Joe Miller to bring that one out. I'll try and

1238
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,280
keep that one quiet. Thanks Joe. All right, Joe, have

1239
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,559
a great call. Brothers. Great to catch up with you. Man.

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01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,239
Speaker 7: All right, Thanks Bryce, I appreciate it.

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,719
Speaker 4: Thanks Steve, and our thanks to Joe Miller for joining

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01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,000
us here the voice of Navy football. Coming up, we've

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got the Travis Manion Foundation on a roll. We'll also

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01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:23,000
give you our picks for the one hundred and twenty

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01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:26,599
sixth Army Navy game. But coming up, we will switch

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01:01:26,679 --> 01:01:29,440
sidelines and take a look at the game from the

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01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:33,199
Army perspective, as sal inter Donado of Black Knight Nation

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,199
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01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:41,159
and Stripes, your home for Service Academy Football tailgate with

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sixth Army Navy game on Saturday, December thirteenth in Baltimore,

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empower veterans and families of the fallen to develop character

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Speaker 1: The latest with Navy, Army and Air Force on Yards

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01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,440
and Stripes Service Academy Football.

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01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:46,639
Speaker 4: It is the one hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy

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01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:50,639
Game Spectacular. Here on Yards and Stripes your home for

1267
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,079
Service Academy Football, and this time we take a look

1268
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:56,599
at the Army.

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01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 5: Black Knights sideline.

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,199
Speaker 4: Of course, Army is now four and four in the

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01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:06,119
American six and five. O'reall as they get ready for

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01:03:06,519 --> 01:03:10,400
their final matchup before going on to a bowl game.

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,880
We don't know what that bowl game is as of

1274
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,440
yet as we're taping this, but definitely want to get

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01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:20,679
the thoughts of our good friend sal Inner Donado, the founder,

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01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,880
the man the Grand puba off Black Knight Nation dot com.

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01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,599
Speaker 5: Sala. First off, it is very good to see you here.

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01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 4: I hope you've had a great holiday so far, and

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01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,599
because we haven't had you on yet here this year,

1280
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:37,920
I want to get your thoughts on the Black Knights

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01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,400
season as a whole so far, because if you look

1282
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,119
at the mainstream college football media, they see Army as

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,079
a team that finished five hundred in the American after

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01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:50,760
winning the conference last year. They see the loss at

1285
01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:54,719
at home to Division one FCS team to start the season.

1286
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,320
They'll point out the loss to Tulsa, who is winless

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01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,840
in the conference up to that point. Later on in

1288
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,360
the season, they'll say it's a step back for the

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01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,800
Black Knights this year. Of Course, those of us that

1290
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,239
pay attention to Service Academy football have to remind those

1291
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,840
folks that the lost to Charleton State. They just went

1292
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,719
eleven to one this year and they got a first

1293
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,920
round by in the FCS football playoffs that are going

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01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,920
on right now. And I personally think Army schedule might

1295
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,119
have been the toughest in the American Conference this year

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01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,199
because if you look at all the other contenders in

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01:04:29,239 --> 01:04:32,920
the conference, North Texas and Tulane did not play each

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01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,599
other until the conference championship game. South Florida and Navy

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01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:41,280
did not play Tulane, and East Carolina and Memphis didn't

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01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,719
play North Texas, whereas Army played both teams in the

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01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,800
regular season and had a chance to win both games,

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,400
including in New Orleans. Love to get your perspective on

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01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:53,320
how the Black Knights handled this schedule.

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01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 9: Well, you almost broke it down for me, Steve. Thanks

1305
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,400
for having me on. You know, it's been an uneven

1306
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,760
season up and down. You look, I have had eight

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01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,639
games decide by one score or less this year, and

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01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:06,239
I did the quick math. Twenty eight points is the

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01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:08,880
difference in those eight games total. So you're looking at

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01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:12,199
three and a half points, basically a field goal. And

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01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,239
you know it didn't really start well for them at

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01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,039
all against Charleston State, and then they're you going on

1313
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:20,639
the road and beat Kansas State game they should probably

1314
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,519
are not shouldn't, shouldn't have win but one, and you

1315
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:26,800
know then they come back and the North Texas game

1316
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,559
is a crazy game. I mean, had a chance to

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01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:31,800
win it at the at the end of the regulation,

1318
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,280
but kicked the field goal instead for overtime and lost

1319
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,000
in overtime. And then they you know, they have to

1320
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:40,440
quick turnover on a Thursday night at East Carolina. Was

1321
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,800
a very favorable schedule there, you know, usually you get

1322
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,400
the week off on those Thursday night games. Sometimes didn't

1323
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,719
get it and lost twenty eight seven twenty six. Gave

1324
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,800
up a lot of points early but kind of settled in,

1325
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,360
but the offense couldn't get going. You know, they're closed.

1326
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,599
I mean you look at it, you're right.

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01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:02,039
Speaker 9: The two teams that played in the championship game, they

1329
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,119
had too lane with less than six minutes left up

1330
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:08,440
by seven, couldn't finish. They had an incredible comeback against

1331
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,480
North Texas at home, just couldn't finish, you know. So

1332
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:15,280
you know it's it's just really this season's kind of been.

1333
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,079
You don't know what you're gonna get for them in

1334
01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:20,320
half of these games. And as long as they play

1335
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,119
sound like offensive football, don't turn the ball over, they

1336
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,559
can stay. They can play against anybody. You know, they

1337
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:30,079
can really play against anybody, I think, and it's just

1338
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:32,760
been you know, yeah, could they be eight? Could they

1339
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:33,599
be eight and three?

1340
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 7: Maybe?

1341
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,119
Speaker 9: You know, could they have gotten a couple more wins here?

1342
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,400
They played good on the road, you know, they played

1343
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:41,119
their four and two on the road this year. You

1344
01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:43,840
know that's this didn't take care home. You know, you're

1345
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,960
two and three at home? Not good and I lose

1346
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,639
to Tulsa and Tarleton State. Granted, Tarleton State, like you said,

1347
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,519
is pretty good, but that Tulsa game is you know, Steve,

1348
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,039
just after that Tulsa game, you're like, they're they're done.

1349
01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:58,800
They're not gonna beat Utsa. You know, you Testa's won

1350
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,280
twenty five games in the row, and what they do

1351
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,079
They beat you Tsa and they found a way. So

1352
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:09,039
this team has found a way in some games, has

1353
01:07:09,159 --> 01:07:11,800
kicked itself in the foot or stumped itself in the

1354
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,679
tow whatever how you want to say it, you know

1355
01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:17,400
hasn't gotten you know what, Steve, This team and you

1356
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,239
watch Service Academy football. The fourth downs, right, they go

1357
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,440
for it probably the most times in the country on

1358
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,800
fourth down, and you know you're not gonna get every one,

1359
01:07:25,159 --> 01:07:28,440
but you hope you're maybe at least above sixty sixty

1360
01:07:28,519 --> 01:07:31,960
seventy even higher in that and sometimes they made decisions

1361
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,840
to go and it hasn't worked out, and that's been

1362
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,280
the deciding factor and why they lost the game in

1363
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,840
my opinion. So I think the players have played their

1364
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,400
tails off this year. I think they deserve better. I

1365
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:45,599
said it against Utsa when they steal the Bowl. I

1366
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:47,920
think sometimes they've been let down. They've been let down

1367
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,119
by the coaches this year. I'm playing simple. I'm just

1368
01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:52,880
gonna say it. They've been let down, and now we'll

1369
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,199
see what happens, uh, you know, Saturday in Baltimore, see

1370
01:07:56,199 --> 01:07:59,079
if they could put all together against a very very,

1371
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:01,360
very very good a team.

1372
01:08:01,519 --> 01:08:01,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1373
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,639
Speaker 4: We we said that about about Army in the after

1374
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:07,119
the Tulane game. We saw we said that about Army

1375
01:08:07,519 --> 01:08:09,960
after the Tulsa game as well.

1376
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: So I certainly know where you're going, uh with that.

1377
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,239
Speaker 4: When it comes to the coaching staff, want to get

1378
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:18,279
into one of the guys that really has had probably

1379
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:20,840
one of the toughest jobs this year, because you never

1380
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,760
want to be the guy that has to follow the guy,

1381
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:26,439
and that's what cale Helems has had to do this year,

1382
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,399
taking the reins under center from Bryce and Daily who

1383
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,279
may have been one of the best Army quarterbacks of

1384
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:33,199
all time.

1385
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:34,399
Speaker 5: Let's let's put it that way.

1386
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,199
Speaker 4: I mean, he's up there when when you think of

1387
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,560
Army football quarterbacks, his name is going to be mentioned.

1388
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,600
So with the regular season done, going into the biggest

1389
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,840
game of the year for the program, how would you

1390
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,079
rate how would you grade the junior from Tumble texas.

1391
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 9: Well real quick, Bryce and Dally. I think among Service

1392
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,319
Academy teams in general, he's one of the best quarterbacks.

1393
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,279
I know, maybe we'll say Keenan Reynolds, fine, but that

1394
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:00,520
year was incredible and to follow your right to follow

1395
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,760
Bryson Daly's hard. But cal Helms wasn't even the guy

1396
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,079
when the season started. He was third string in the

1397
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:10,399
preseason and you know, Ethan Washington, promising sophomore, tears his

1398
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,039
ACL in the first preseason scrimmage.

1399
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 7: He's out.

1400
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,399
Speaker 9: Cal Helms moves up to number two. Dwayne Coleman gets

1401
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:19,920
banged up in the opener against FCS Charlton State, cal

1402
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,119
Helms has to come in. He played a little last year,

1403
01:09:22,119 --> 01:09:23,840
but it was a mop up, you know, when they

1404
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,479
were blowing out teams and at the beginning of the year,

1405
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,279
he got into games and he is he is the

1406
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,720
heartbeat of the offense. You know if he as Helms goes,

1407
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:37,720
you know, Army goes and he's I tell you he's

1408
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,159
not Bryson Daly. He's not as big as Bryson Dally.

1409
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:43,680
But he's a physical runner like Bryson Dally. He takes

1410
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,560
the contact, he gets yards after contact. Can he break

1411
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,920
off the big runs like Bryson could not? Really not

1412
01:09:51,119 --> 01:09:54,199
his game. His game is more moving the sticks and

1413
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:56,439
you know, converting those third and fourth and shorts. And

1414
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,239
you know he's come up clutch in the passing game too.

1415
01:09:59,239 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 3: This year.

1416
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 9: Where thought, okay, here we go. You know, I thought

1417
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,159
against Utsa, I thought noeh Short was going to complete

1418
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:07,359
more passes than cal Helms at the beginning of the game,

1419
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,239
you know, and just the way they were running. And

1420
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:12,560
then he really comes alive on that final drive, completes

1421
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,560
two fourth down passes, keeps the drive going and then

1422
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:20,760
has that touchdown pass Parker Polowski. And you know, he

1423
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,840
he gets it. He's hard on himself. Cal Helms. He

1424
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,319
wants to be the best. He thinks he deserved. He

1425
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,720
thought he deserved to be the starting quarterback. He wasn't

1426
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,680
that field is fire? He and you looked at this

1427
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,279
set his first start against Kansas State, what he did

1428
01:10:34,319 --> 01:10:36,560
in that game, you know, going on the road and

1429
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,840
beating the Pac twelve team. He he We try to

1430
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,119
come up with descript like how you describe cal Helms,

1431
01:10:43,119 --> 01:10:46,399
you know, how would you describe him as a quarterback. Well,

1432
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,800
he's a gamer who is very close to being a winner.

1433
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,439
You know, he won in high school, but he's very

1434
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,000
close to being a winning quarterback most of the time

1435
01:10:56,039 --> 01:10:59,680
in college football. You know, he's this far away sometimes

1436
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,039
from and armies, this far away sometimes from getting those wins.

1437
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:06,439
But I mean, look at the future at that position.

1438
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,600
At the beginning, he thought, great, you know, you gotta

1439
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,199
replace Bryce and Daily. Dwayne Coleman, you know, is a

1440
01:11:11,239 --> 01:11:14,039
senior who waited his turn. Wait, d Wayne's not really

1441
01:11:14,079 --> 01:11:16,079
working out. What are they going to do? They have

1442
01:11:16,199 --> 01:11:19,680
no depth at all, you know, behind Coleman and Helms,

1443
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,239
they have no depth. And Kells made it. You know,

1444
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:25,800
he's you look at like the forty carry games crazy.

1445
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, he has been. He has been.

1446
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 4: He's been really really spectacular in some games and there

1447
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,800
are other games where it's like, Okay, you can understand

1448
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:40,239
that why he was behind, you know, some of these

1449
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:43,000
guys to start the year as well. You know, I've

1450
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,680
had those those times where I'm like, what is he doing?

1451
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 5: You know?

1452
01:11:47,279 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 4: But I mean, I guess, I guess all quarterbacks have that.

1453
01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:52,399
It's just, you know, the really good wins limit the

1454
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,720
times that you're that you're scratching your head when it

1455
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,800
comes to when it comes to his play. All right,

1456
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,520
let's get into the.

1457
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 5: Game at hand. Now you've known this. I've known this.

1458
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,319
Speaker 4: Jeff Monkin has had this date circled on his calendar

1459
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,000
since the moment he walked back into the coach's office

1460
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:13,680
at Northwest Stadium in Landover, Maryland.

1461
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:14,520
Speaker 5: Last year.

1462
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,399
Speaker 4: There was a calendar in his office and he circled

1463
01:12:19,399 --> 01:12:26,239
December thirteenth, twenty twenty five after what happened at Northwest Stadium.

1464
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 5: I don't know about.

1465
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:31,119
Speaker 4: You, This game feels to me almost like it's a

1466
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:34,000
mirror image of last game and that the shoe is

1467
01:12:34,039 --> 01:12:37,600
on the other foot for both of these teams. Sure, players,

1468
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:40,520
you know, if you were to talk to players, they

1469
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,039
will tell you that's absolutely not the case. But do

1470
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:48,119
you see these same similarities between last year's Army team

1471
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,840
and this year's Navy team and vice versa, where Army

1472
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:54,520
is now the team that's looking to go in here

1473
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,479
and punch Navy in the mouth.

1474
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 7: A little bit, a little bit.

1475
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 9: It's a little bit different situation because last year Army

1476
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,800
did maybe he's getting the full two weeks. This year

1477
01:13:04,079 --> 01:13:06,880
Army only had the week after they got They got

1478
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,199
beat up in that two laying game. They won handedly,

1479
01:13:09,359 --> 01:13:11,399
but that was a pretty physical game at the beginning,

1480
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,560
so they were a little banged up in that game,

1481
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,319
no excuses. Navy out played them. And now you look

1482
01:13:16,359 --> 01:13:18,640
at I think Navy's team last year was better than

1483
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,199
this year's Army team, no doubt. You know, the way

1484
01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:23,600
I look at it, I think I think Army's team

1485
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,319
has a lot to prove still, you know, I think

1486
01:13:25,359 --> 01:13:27,119
they're six and five and maybe they have a chip

1487
01:13:27,159 --> 01:13:30,520
on their shoulders saying hey, the players at least do say, hey, man,

1488
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,840
we get there's an we can play. We can win

1489
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,600
the Commander in Chiefs Trophy on Saturday in Baltimore if

1490
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,359
we can pull off. I guess they're they're like a

1491
01:13:37,399 --> 01:13:39,479
four and a half point underdog right now, you know,

1492
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,640
if we can and that's not much considering the seasons

1493
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,479
the two teams have had. You know, that's not that's

1494
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,880
not much Vegas is saying. I think that they come

1495
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,000
in with the mindset, Hey, one of our goals is

1496
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:53,239
our main goals to win the Commander in Chief Trophy,

1497
01:13:53,239 --> 01:13:56,199
and it's there, it's there for us to win on Saturday,

1498
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,640
and they will. I think they will give a very

1499
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,720
you know, their effort will be there at a high

1500
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,199
level as.

1501
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 3: It always is.

1502
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 9: Now is their skill and the way they operate and

1503
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:08,600
you know this this play era free ball, will that

1504
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,079
be there because yeah, last year, I mean they had

1505
01:14:11,239 --> 01:14:13,439
maybe handed it to him, maybe handed to him last

1506
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,359
year and that was maybe got a little bit of

1507
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,439
jump on them, and Army tried to play catch up.

1508
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,279
And if this is the same this year, it's trouble.

1509
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,560
It's Black Knight's team. Really the North Texas game, you're

1510
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,680
down a couple of scores, you know you got you

1511
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,560
got a lot of work to do, So we'll see

1512
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:33,119
it is the scenarios are slightly similar, but I think

1513
01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:35,239
last year's Navy Navy team was much better than.

1514
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:36,039
Speaker 7: This year's Army team.

1515
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll get into the keys for this game

1516
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,920
here in a second. But to follow up on that, Yeah,

1517
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,319
last year, Navy didn't have a bowl that they were

1518
01:14:46,359 --> 01:14:49,720
going to. So last year's Army Navy game, especially for

1519
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,520
the senior class, that was their bowl game.

1520
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,319
Speaker 5: That was it. Those guys were done after after that game.

1521
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,199
Speaker 4: The fact that Army now has a bowl that they

1522
01:15:00,199 --> 01:15:03,840
can look forward to after this game, does that kind

1523
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,760
of change? I know everybody want the Commander in chief too,

1524
01:15:07,079 --> 01:15:10,039
There's no doubt you know that that is that is

1525
01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:13,560
absolutely you know, on the when when you look at

1526
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:19,520
the list of things that they want, you know, that's first, second, third,

1527
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,520
and tied for fifth, with fourth being fourth and fifth

1528
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,079
being beat the tar out of out of the Navy

1529
01:15:26,119 --> 01:15:30,560
players on the field no matter what. But the knowing

1530
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,600
that they have another game after this that they're going

1531
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:38,680
to play in somewhere, does that kind of change the

1532
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:39,720
perspective a little bit?

1533
01:15:40,319 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 7: Not at all.

1534
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:41,399
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1535
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 9: I really don't. I really think this is their game,

1536
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,840
this is their super Bowl. This is almost like their

1537
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,359
bowl game, you know. And in the years before the

1538
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:51,000
twelve last year, the twelve win season, when they were

1539
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:54,279
coming into this Army Navy game and they were fighting

1540
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:56,439
just to get that six and six, you know, be

1541
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,119
six and six at the end of the year.

1542
01:15:59,359 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 7: This is this is this is it for them.

1543
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 9: I mean if this season ended here and they won,

1544
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,399
they beat Navy and brought the Commander in Chiefs Trophy home,

1545
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,840
they'd be happy. I mean, I think that that Bowl

1546
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,199
game is is just for I guess to send the

1547
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:15,720
seniors off pretty you know, and just a cop you know,

1548
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,319
compilation of the whole season. But not nah, I think

1549
01:16:19,359 --> 01:16:22,039
that they're gonna come in. I don't think it changes everything.

1550
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,920
I think they got a good seniors leadership on this team.

1551
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:27,399
I think this team at the beginning of the preseason

1552
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,399
was tested a little bit in camp. I think they

1553
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,640
came out of it, you know, kind of uneven the

1554
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,199
one in three, but they kind of right to ship.

1555
01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:37,239
And that's because of the leadership on the team and

1556
01:16:37,279 --> 01:16:39,840
the seniors who have been here before. You know, Caleb

1557
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,800
Fortner's who had the big play his sophomore year in

1558
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,640
the in the in the Army win.

1559
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: The last year.

1560
01:16:46,079 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 9: You know, Cale, Caleb Fortner and Thomas Starting.

1561
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 7: No, it's short starting.

1562
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,520
Speaker 9: They have a lot of guys who started in this game,

1563
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,239
especially the defensive side has some few guys in there,

1564
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,199
and I think they're gonna take this, you know, sixty minute,

1565
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,319
you know, like they say fight in the phone booth,

1566
01:17:00,359 --> 01:17:02,600
I guess, and that team.

1567
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 4: Is yeah, absolutely so offensively outside of Hellam's who do

1568
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,239
you think has to have a big.

1569
01:17:10,039 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 5: Game in order for Army to have a chance of

1570
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:14,520
victory here?

1571
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 9: Well, I would say Noah's short. But you know, the

1572
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,119
outside other than last game against Utsa hasn't been there

1573
01:17:21,159 --> 01:17:23,319
a lot. So I think they got to get something

1574
01:17:23,359 --> 01:17:26,680
at the full back position, anything at the full back position,

1575
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,039
and it's been a position kind of revolving door, so

1576
01:17:30,199 --> 01:17:30,840
to speak.

1577
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:33,159
Speaker 7: The big thing to me is going to be is

1578
01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:34,119
it can't.

1579
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 9: Briggs Bartash play Brigs Bartash as a sophomore, he has

1580
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,039
some a little bit more game breaking ability than the

1581
01:17:41,119 --> 01:17:43,720
other full backs. If he gets out into the open field.

1582
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,479
He has a seventy five yard touchdown against Utsa. I

1583
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,279
mean he can go. But he's missed the last three games.

1584
01:17:49,279 --> 01:17:51,119
I'm not sure. I think it could be an ankle,

1585
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:54,319
maybe not, but you know, they need something from their

1586
01:17:54,319 --> 01:17:56,560
full backs, and you know they moved Hayden Reed at

1587
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,000
the full back position. They fumbled me a couple times

1588
01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:02,319
that Jeff Munkin didn't like. But I think he's their

1589
01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:05,560
best fullback. But he's playing slot back and only playing

1590
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,640
really the block these days, so you know, they need

1591
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,800
something out of the full back position if they're they're

1592
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,000
gonna win. They do need Paulo generally back to at

1593
01:18:14,079 --> 01:18:14,600
right guard.

1594
01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:16,399
Speaker 7: They needed.

1595
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,319
Speaker 9: He's missed the last two games with an injury. If

1596
01:18:19,319 --> 01:18:21,960
he can come back, even though Brandon Bartash has played well,

1597
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,680
you know generally has the experience playing in these games too,

1598
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,880
and you can't. That's that's hard to you know, you can't.

1599
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:32,399
Can't lose that. So, yeah, that offense, that's that's my thing,

1600
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,520
That's what that's my keys rim on offense.

1601
01:18:35,039 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I I totally agree with you. And and

1602
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,520
having Noah short having having a game like you said,

1603
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:46,640
with with him not having the statistical UH numbers that

1604
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,640
you would have expected out of him, has definitely been

1605
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,239
very strange here this year.

1606
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 5: So let's look to the other side. On defense.

1607
01:18:54,039 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 4: Stopping Blake Corvath obviously is going to be the number

1608
01:18:58,039 --> 01:19:02,640
one thing to do. Stopping you know, Alex Teska is

1609
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,600
gonna be number two, and keeping an eye on number

1610
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:09,720
twenty two UH out out wide is gonna be number three.

1611
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,960
But what else does does Army have to do, uh

1612
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:14,560
to to hold back Navy.

1613
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 9: I honestly think that Ian Heinrich is the key in

1614
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,279
this game. I mean, you gotta you cannot allow the

1615
01:19:20,279 --> 01:19:23,920
big plays. And what Nate wood He will do is

1616
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,479
they're gonna play like kind of a deep You know

1617
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,960
that they're not gonna allow ball throwing over their head.

1618
01:19:29,279 --> 01:19:31,680
But you play that kind of defense, then you gotta

1619
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,159
be pretty good in between the tackles, right, and you've

1620
01:19:34,199 --> 01:19:36,520
got to get a really good performance from Cody Harris

1621
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,560
Miller or nose tackle. Cody's been banged up a little bit.

1622
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,960
He's come back in the last two games and looking

1623
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,960
more like himself. Last year in the Army game Navy game,

1624
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,560
he was he was hurt and that didn't help them

1625
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,920
at all. He's a big player, He's a dose tackle.

1626
01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:53,479
He could be as important to Army's defense as Landon

1627
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,359
Robinson is the Navies. So if they can if he

1628
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,359
can take up a little bit of space inside, it

1629
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,600
allows Thomas and and the Thomas and kill Forton to

1630
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,800
make plays. I'm gonna say the safeties are gonna be

1631
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,680
big in this game. You know, when Colin Madison has

1632
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,359
played very well at elite level, they've won. They won

1633
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:14,319
at Kansas State when he had just an incredible, amazing game.

1634
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,960
They won at UTSA when you know he had four

1635
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:22,039
past breakups in the game. Four that's a lot. He's

1636
01:20:22,079 --> 01:20:24,119
had a couple double digit tackles towards the end of

1637
01:20:24,159 --> 01:20:27,520
the season. Casey Larkin got banged up against UTSA. Coach

1638
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,399
Mounkins said earlier this week that he's gonna he expects

1639
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,600
Casey to play. They need Casey back. They're a senior

1640
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,399
who's been through a lot of really important games. And

1641
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,119
so I think the secondary is big in this game.

1642
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:43,279
And I think that you know, Cody Harris Miller is

1643
01:20:43,319 --> 01:20:45,760
and if they can, they gotta find a way to

1644
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,439
get Navy's offense off the field and get Armies offense on.

1645
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,760
You gotta get some I'm not saying three and outs,

1646
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,680
but you you gotta get Navy to punt the ball

1647
01:20:55,239 --> 01:20:57,359
once or twice in this game if you're gonna have

1648
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:58,680
any chance of winning the game.

1649
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, or if you're able to get those fourth

1650
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,680
down stops like Mike, you and I we we're talking about.

1651
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,119
You know, if you get a fourth down stop that

1652
01:21:08,119 --> 01:21:11,840
that is almost two to one because you get Navy's

1653
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,159
offense off the field and you get a short field,

1654
01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:17,000
a shorter field to work within normally. Uh So, I

1655
01:21:17,319 --> 01:21:21,000
think that's a that could be a certain key as well,

1656
01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:23,319
because you know that much as much as the Black

1657
01:21:23,359 --> 01:21:25,760
Knights go for it on fourth down, you see the

1658
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,720
Midshipman do exactly the same thing as well. All right,

1659
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,039
here's here's the big question. Who wins this game.

1660
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's gonna take a really, it's gonna take Army's

1661
01:21:36,359 --> 01:21:39,439
best effort to beat Navy. You know, I do think

1662
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,800
Navy wins. I hope Army can keep the game closed.

1663
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,319
I guess it's almost the same thing I said in

1664
01:21:45,359 --> 01:21:49,560
the US UTSA game. If the defense can play and

1665
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,319
hold their own and they get points from somewhere other

1666
01:21:52,399 --> 01:21:55,800
than their offense, like Jaden Mays's interception pick six was

1667
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,640
huge for them last game. If they can make a

1668
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,319
big play on defense, even if it's an interception, forth, fumble, anything,

1669
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,119
anything to change up the momentum, they can stay in

1670
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:08,640
the game. But if their offense is slowed down and

1671
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,079
we get into like you know, these long drives that

1672
01:22:12,279 --> 01:22:15,640
net a field goal, or an empty possession. Not good

1673
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,159
for Army.

1674
01:22:16,199 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 3: Not good.

1675
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 9: I think that Navy wins. I would say that Navy

1676
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,640
would probably now normally Nate Woody is pretty good against Navy.

1677
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,520
Last year it wasn't. I mean, Navy's gonna be in

1678
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,439
the twenties, and if Army can get in the twenties,

1679
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,680
it'll be a game, maybe like a twenty four to

1680
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:36,159
seventeen game, maybe somewhere around there. Right now, I say Navy.

1681
01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:39,359
It all depends to me on the guys who are

1682
01:22:39,359 --> 01:22:42,000
gonna play for Army. If Larkin's gonna play, if Bartaje

1683
01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:44,399
is gonna play, if General is gonna play, give him

1684
01:22:44,399 --> 01:22:46,199
a little bit better chance. But right now, I say

1685
01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:47,560
twenty four to seventeen Navy.

1686
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 4: And you can follow sal at Black Knight Nation dot com.

1687
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,039
Everything West Point Athletics you can find up there. I'm

1688
01:22:56,119 --> 01:22:59,239
always on there checking out because I love the fact

1689
01:22:59,319 --> 01:23:01,800
that we can. You can see I think they've got

1690
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:07,560
what thirty eight varsity sports or something like that at

1691
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,119
West Point, and so you love being able to check

1692
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:14,199
out everything going on with the Army Black Knights, not

1693
01:23:14,279 --> 01:23:19,079
just football, but also with basketball and lacrosse and soccer

1694
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:23,720
and wrestling, and everything going on up there in New York.

1695
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,239
So Sal, enjoy the game, have a great holiday, and

1696
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,840
we look to talk to you again soon.

1697
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,159
Speaker 9: Steve, I appreciate you having me on and happy I'll

1698
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:31,680
lay see you too.

1699
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:34,359
Speaker 4: Thanks a lot, our thanks again to Sal inter Donado

1700
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,479
of Black Knight Nation dot com for joining us here

1701
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,239
this week. Still to come, Price and I will give

1702
01:23:40,279 --> 01:23:43,720
you our predictions for the one hundred and twenty sixth

1703
01:23:44,079 --> 01:23:47,600
Army Navy Game. But up next, Price will honor a

1704
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,479
fallen service member with the Travis Manian Foundation Honor Roll

1705
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,760
that is up next here on the one hundred and

1706
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,640
twenty sixth Army Navy Game. Spectacular of Yards and Stripes

1707
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,560
your home for Service Academy Football.

1708
01:24:02,079 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 10: In two thousand and seven, Marine First Lieutenant Travis Mannion

1709
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,000
was killed in Iraq after saving his wooted teammates. Travis's

1710
01:24:08,079 --> 01:24:10,479
legacy lives on through the words he spoke before his

1711
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,239
final deployment. If not me, then who words that today

1712
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:17,399
fuel the spirit of Travis Manion Foundation and through TMF

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these words can live in you too. Show the world

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what you're made of. Because character is invisible until it's not.

1715
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,039
Find out how you can strengthen the character of your

1716
01:24:26,079 --> 01:24:30,159
community alongside empowered veterans, families of the fallen, and inspired

1717
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:32,000
civilians at Travismanion dot org.

1718
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into our Army and Navy preview

1719
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,359
special here on Margin Stripes, your home for service Academy

1720
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:42,079
football and certainly for those who have listened to us,

1721
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:43,960
you know what time it is. It's time for a

1722
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,920
Travismenion Foundation honorable segment. Worry, honor, remember a fallen hero

1723
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,720
one that has given the ultimate sacrifice. And then the

1724
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:51,920
words of Travis.

1725
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:56,039
Speaker 3: Himself that he spoke before deploying, deploying on the final time.

1726
01:24:56,079 --> 01:24:57,039
If not me, then who?

1727
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,520
Speaker 2: And the Travismening Foundation doing work all across the country

1728
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,600
and local communities carrying on the legacy of servicing commitment

1729
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,039
of fallen heroes and loved ones. You can find out

1730
01:25:07,079 --> 01:25:10,279
so much more about Travis Manion Foundation at Travismanion dot org,

1731
01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:14,640
including ways to get your tickets to Saturday's Army Navy

1732
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,600
tailgate sponsored by the Travis Manion Foundation to benefit TMF.

1733
01:25:19,279 --> 01:25:20,199
Speaker 3: But this week on.

1734
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,520
Speaker 2: Our TMF Honor Role, we're going to honor remember a

1735
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:28,520
Gunnery Sergeant David mac McFarland United States Marine Corps Gunnery

1736
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,720
Sergeant Mac McFarland served in the Marine Corps for sixteen years.

1737
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,000
Began his military career in the infantry, but was soon

1738
01:25:35,079 --> 01:25:40,000
selected for counterintelligence school and became a CIA A C

1739
01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:43,720
one agent with tours of duty in Panama, Haiti, Africa, England,

1740
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,960
and more. In two thousand, he became a Credentialed Special

1741
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,439
Agent with the US Naval Criminal Investigative Service otherwise known

1742
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,239
as NCIS. During his time within CIS, Gunny Mac was

1743
01:25:56,279 --> 01:26:01,000
assigned to the Combating Terrorism Dictorate. He worked on task

1744
01:26:01,039 --> 01:26:03,880
forces investigating the events of the bombing of the USS

1745
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,680
Cole and Yemen one and also nine to eleven. Born

1746
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,000
on April the twentieth, nineteen sixty seven and Dundeede and Florida,

1747
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,119
Gunny Mack earned a Bachelor of Science and Strategic Intelligence

1748
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:19,760
from the National Intelligence University. The height of his military career,

1749
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,399
Mack became seriously ill and was forced to retire early

1750
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,880
at the age of thirty five. He lost his battle

1751
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,960
seven years later, on February the twenty first, twenty ten.

1752
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,479
Mack was known for his mission attitude, his larger than

1753
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:38,520
life personality, his love and dedication to his family, especially

1754
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,640
his wife and three sons, and his unwavering faith in God.

1755
01:26:42,199 --> 01:26:46,119
He was survived by his wife, Jennifer and three kids,

1756
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:50,920
and his character strength story is just amazing. If you

1757
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,439
go to Travismannion dot orgon their Fallen Hero section, you

1758
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:58,199
can read all about his character strength story that his

1759
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:02,640
wife Jennifer wrote on there is incredibly moving, incredibly touching.

1760
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,840
It's also pretty long, so I don't want to read

1761
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,760
the whole thing right there, but it really is something

1762
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,239
that will move a lot of people if you take

1763
01:27:10,239 --> 01:27:12,439
a look at it on Travismanion dot org their Fallen

1764
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:19,680
Hero section. For David, I'm tired Gunny Sergeant David mac McFarland,

1765
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,319
United States Marine Corps.

1766
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,399
Speaker 6: Travis Mallon Foundation's Nine to Eleven Heroes Run five K

1767
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,479
race series units communities across the country and around the

1768
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,239
world to honor the sacrifices of September eleventh and the

1769
01:27:30,279 --> 01:27:33,640
war since. Join your community this September and register to run,

1770
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walk or rock by visiting nine to eleven Heroes Run

1771
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dot org.

1772
01:27:40,079 --> 01:27:44,159
Speaker 1: The latest with Navy, Army and Air Force on Yards

1773
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:47,039
and Stripes Service Academy Football.

1774
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 2: Final segment here on Yards and stripes are Army Navy

1775
01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:55,279
Review special again Pryce Atkinson, Stephen Carney, as we appreciate

1776
01:27:55,359 --> 01:27:58,439
Joe Miller and sal Erdonado for joining us this week

1777
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,039
to get ready for the game. Also Travis Manning Foundation

1778
01:28:02,039 --> 01:28:03,840
Honor Roll segment that we just brought to you. There,

1779
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,640
don't forget you can get tickets to the Travis Manning

1780
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,600
Foundation tailgate.

1781
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:08,560
Speaker 3: Just go online.

1782
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,279
Speaker 2: Uh there at travismannon dot org and so get your

1783
01:28:12,359 --> 01:28:14,720
tickets for what will be an awesome tailgate.

1784
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 3: There.

1785
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I'm I'm, I'm I'm still pretty hungry.

1786
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta I gotta see. Uh, we're gonna, We're

1787
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,600
gonna look this up. It isn't that far from me

1788
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,520
to get to Baltimore.

1789
01:28:26,079 --> 01:28:30,119
Speaker 3: So yeah, I might be coming.

1790
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:33,039
Speaker 5: I might be coming, Ryan, Ryan, I might be coming.

1791
01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:37,119
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go real quickly.

1792
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 2: While Steven is looking that up and trying to figure

1793
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,319
out his killer pizza order for Saturday's game. Uh, a

1794
01:28:43,319 --> 01:28:44,760
couple of news and notes pass along.

1795
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:45,359
Speaker 6: Uh.

1796
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,319
Speaker 2: We'll start uh with Army Army center Brady's small name

1797
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:53,119
to the All uh the American All Conference first team

1798
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:57,199
linebacker and Thomas was a second team Honoree. All Defensive

1799
01:28:57,239 --> 01:29:02,479
lineman Jack Bossom was a third team honoree. Navy midshipman

1800
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:07,119
senior nose guard Landon Robinson named the American Conference Defensive

1801
01:29:07,159 --> 01:29:10,000
Player of the Year. Wow, that's something to see. You think,

1802
01:29:10,039 --> 01:29:12,239
if it was going to be a conference Player of

1803
01:29:12,279 --> 01:29:14,960
the Year, you almost can always think it's probably gonna

1804
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,399
be on the offensive side of the ball.

1805
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,119
Speaker 3: Nope, not this year.

1806
01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:22,199
Speaker 2: Landon Robinson the Defensive Player of the Year in the

1807
01:29:22,239 --> 01:29:26,279
American Conference, while junior long snapper Rain Frye was named

1808
01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:28,680
the long Snapper of the Year by the leagu's head coaches.

1809
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,560
So two big awards for the Navy Midshipman. Surprising, they

1810
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,800
were the only two name First Team All American Conference,

1811
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:40,479
but senior guard Yeah senior guard Ben Purvis, and then

1812
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,479
senior Eli Heinreich and senior running back Alex Tesca they

1813
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:49,640
all Garner's second team All American Conference honors. The Air

1814
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,680
Force Falcons, they had four players names to the All

1815
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,840
mount Less Team according to the vote last week. Senior

1816
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,279
offensive lineman Costin Cooley a first team honoree, while senior

1817
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,159
offense of lineman Jack Burnett, senior nose guard Peyton Drake

1818
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,920
and then junior inside the linebacker Blake Fletcher, all earning

1819
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,920
second team All mount West Conference honors. So congratulations to

1820
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:15,800
all those student athletes awarded and recognized by the American

1821
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:17,119
and the Mountain West Conference.

1822
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 5: Stephen, all right, that's congratulations to them.

1823
01:30:20,079 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm they've got the pictures of all

1824
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,800
the food and the festivities on the Travis Banion Foundation

1825
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:33,520
tailgate going on on on Saturday, And yeah, I'm really

1826
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,760
jealous right now. If you're going to this, take pictures,

1827
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,640
send them to us on social media for sure.

1828
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I have been to the TMF tailgate before and

1829
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,479
it is quite festive.

1830
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: I went.

1831
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 2: The one I went to was in Philadelphia, so right

1832
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,760
there in the heart of Manion Country as it was.

1833
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 3: A heck of a party. I can tell you to

1834
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,000
believe it. All right, Steven, we've come to that time.

1835
01:30:57,319 --> 01:30:57,840
You know we can.

1836
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,560
Speaker 2: We can break this thing down a whole lot more

1837
01:31:01,079 --> 01:31:03,199
X factors, injuries.

1838
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 3: You know. Weather. We haven't even talked about weather. Have you.

1839
01:31:08,079 --> 01:31:10,279
Speaker 2: Have we seen a weather report yet? I have not

1840
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,199
looked to see what the weather report is going to be.

1841
01:31:13,359 --> 01:31:16,439
I imagine if it's going to be trending like it has

1842
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,000
been around here. It's going to be a pretty cold day.

1843
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,359
I remember, I think it was my I think it

1844
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,720
was my It was my very first Army Navy game

1845
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,399
in two thousand. It was in Baltimore at M and

1846
01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:31,840
T Bank Stadium. My parents came up from South Carolina,

1847
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,319
and I don't think my mom and dad warmed up.

1848
01:31:34,359 --> 01:31:38,239
Their bones were still chilled sometimes Sunday as they believed

1849
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:43,159
heaving back to South Carolina. So it was eighteen or

1850
01:31:43,239 --> 01:31:45,840
nineteen degrees I think was the high twenty degrees.

1851
01:31:46,039 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 4: It is not going to be that cold at M

1852
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,399
and T Bank Stadium on Saturday. Right now, the forecast

1853
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:58,479
is for clouds but no precipitation and about forty degrees.

1854
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:03,640
It's gonna be it's gonna be brisk, but but it

1855
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,720
is not going to be freezing cold, uh at M

1856
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:08,920
and T Banks team. This is not like you know

1857
01:32:09,359 --> 01:32:11,840
a couple of years ago when when the game was

1858
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,439
in Boston and it was really cold, and then of

1859
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,760
course we all remember was it twenty twenty one the snow,

1860
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,119
the game in the snow, that that was one of

1861
01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:24,720
those wild days, one of those wild games. I don't

1862
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,680
think we're gonna have to worry about that this year.

1863
01:32:27,039 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 2: And then I don't remember if it was one or three,

1864
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,000
but one of those years it was. I think it

1865
01:32:33,039 --> 01:32:35,439
was seventy two degrees in Philadelphia.

1866
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 4: It was hot like that hot, I would bet that

1867
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:43,960
was That was probably sounds like one. I watched the

1868
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,840
the one game on the flight Den or I should

1869
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,680
say the hangar deck of the USS Theodore Roosevelt that year,

1870
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,439
and I remember them talking about how hot it was

1871
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:55,199
in Philadelphia.

1872
01:32:55,239 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 2: I think the game because it was I was dating

1873
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:02,239
my now wife fit the time, and that was our

1874
01:33:02,279 --> 01:33:04,359
first one together, and I remember seeing her like in

1875
01:33:04,399 --> 01:33:07,039
a basically a golf shirt on the field. I was

1876
01:33:07,119 --> 01:33:09,960
like whoa, And I was in a suit, sweating my

1877
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,000
tail off, so almost positive it was oh.

1878
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,600
Speaker 5: One, yeah, I was.

1879
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 4: And people are talking about it being you know, oh,

1880
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,800
it's it's so hot here in Philadelphia at seventy two degrees.

1881
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,039
Speaker 5: I'm like, let me tell you something, son, I'm.

1882
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:26,319
Speaker 4: Off the coast of a Pakistan shooting planes.

1883
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,159
Speaker 5: It's really hot here.

1884
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,199
Speaker 4: Like we were in the we were in the in

1885
01:33:30,199 --> 01:33:32,600
the engine room, it was like one hundred and fifteen degrees.

1886
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,119
Speaker 5: So thanks a lot. Well, we'll take seventy two in

1887
01:33:35,159 --> 01:33:37,039
the kneandroom anytime.

1888
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

1889
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,399
Speaker 2: Well, we're ready to celebrate America's game, the one hundred

1890
01:33:40,399 --> 01:33:42,640
and twenty six playing of the Army Navy Game, presented

1891
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:47,319
by USA on Saturday, Army Verse number twenty two Navy

1892
01:33:47,359 --> 01:33:51,319
Stephen Navy giving six points over under thirty seven and

1893
01:33:51,319 --> 01:33:53,960
a half in this one. Kick off at three ten

1894
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:58,880
in Baltimore on CBS. Let's get to some picks. I'll

1895
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,840
let you fire first. So are we gonna go the

1896
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,880
same way? How gonna be? It seems like you and

1897
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,600
I trend more and more that we, you know, smart

1898
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,640
guys think alike, where we are a lot more similar

1899
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,399
than different than these days. But we'll find out right now.

1900
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,680
So which way can Army pull the upset that Navy

1901
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:17,800
did last year and put the shoe on the other

1902
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:19,960
foot this year? Or do you think Navy continues this

1903
01:34:20,039 --> 01:34:22,800
run and gets to you know, Joe Miller talking about it,

1904
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,039
back to back ten win seasons for history.

1905
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:30,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Navy, Army can do it. I totally

1906
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,119
think that they can. They have to do what Navy

1907
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:37,560
did last year to the Black Knights. They have to

1908
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,640
punch them in the mouth and hope for them to

1909
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:44,479
shrivel up and go away. You know, Navy did that

1910
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,800
last year. I have a feeling that Army will will

1911
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,880
try that, they will try the punch you in the

1912
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:54,000
mouth and watch you shrivel away. It isn't gonna happen, though.

1913
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,960
I have a feeling that that Navy, that Navy can

1914
01:34:58,039 --> 01:35:02,399
take a punch, and we've learned that over the course

1915
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,600
of this season. The Navy can take a punch, and

1916
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:08,319
so I think that they'll be able to take that

1917
01:35:08,399 --> 01:35:10,760
punch and they'll be able to deliver two of their

1918
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:12,239
own to Armies.

1919
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:14,079
Speaker 5: So I have Navy winning this game.

1920
01:35:14,399 --> 01:35:19,199
Speaker 4: I have it twenty eight to twenty. So I give

1921
01:35:19,239 --> 01:35:24,039
me the over as well. So I am going to

1922
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,800
say that history will be made in Baltimore.

1923
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I too, I think that it's going

1924
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,199
to be an over affair. Thirty seven and a half

1925
01:35:39,279 --> 01:35:42,239
being the over under, I think it's going to be

1926
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,720
over for sure. I like very similar to you. I

1927
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:48,960
do like Navy to win the game. You went with

1928
01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:51,640
twenty eight to twenty. I went with Navy twenty four

1929
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,800
to twenty. So we were very very close. And I

1930
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,239
think the reason why Navy wins this year is I

1931
01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:03,439
think the big playability of the guy's nay name Blake Krvath,

1932
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,359
Alex Tesca, and Eli heydright to me, that's the difference.

1933
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,520
Not to say Army doesn't have that ability, but Armies

1934
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,039
had a lot more grinded out drives than you know,

1935
01:36:14,119 --> 01:36:16,960
the big that what they would call them basketball spurt

1936
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,640
ability with that ability to kind of spurt past you

1937
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,640
with like a lot of you know, big plays and

1938
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,279
that can ride that momentum. I think Navy just has

1939
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:30,159
that ability more to generate to pop one. But of

1940
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:32,600
course on on defense, you know, it could be a

1941
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,439
you know, defensive play versus an offensive play, popping the

1942
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,239
ball loose, returning an interception or something like that. So

1943
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:43,239
you know, obviously we talk about it ad nauseum. The

1944
01:36:43,279 --> 01:36:45,840
team that makes the least amount of mistakes, the team

1945
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,279
that can run the football, and then usually the team

1946
01:36:48,319 --> 01:36:50,279
that's gonna come up and make a big play here there.

1947
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:52,000
It's it's who's going to win the game. But we

1948
01:36:52,119 --> 01:36:55,960
know that the turnover battle is just absolutely crucial to

1949
01:36:56,079 --> 01:36:58,760
winner this game. And I think that Navy's big playability

1950
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,279
with all those seniors and playing in their last Army

1951
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:01,840
Navy game.

1952
01:37:02,039 --> 01:37:04,079
Speaker 3: I think that's the difference even yeap.

1953
01:37:04,199 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 4: And then comes the legacy. As we mentioned with Joe Miller.

1954
01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:10,520
You know, they've got they've got a chance with a

1955
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,920
win in Saturday's game, to be one of the greatest

1956
01:37:15,039 --> 01:37:18,319
senior classes in the in the history of Navy football.

1957
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I say upset.

1958
01:37:20,279 --> 01:37:23,039
Speaker 2: I should say this loosely because in a lot of ways,

1959
01:37:23,079 --> 01:37:25,479
while technically people would look at as as an upset,

1960
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,680
I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised

1961
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,840
if Army wins the football game. While I do think

1962
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,680
Navy does win it. We've seen this time and time

1963
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,560
again because the underdog, you know, playing with a chip

1964
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,560
on their shoulder, and this game is filled with kids,

1965
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,800
I say kids, but you know football player student athletes

1966
01:37:42,239 --> 01:37:44,319
that came to the academies in a lot of ways

1967
01:37:44,359 --> 01:37:47,239
with chips on their shoulder because they were undersize. A

1968
01:37:47,319 --> 01:37:49,399
lot of them, they were looked at as maybe too small,

1969
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,800
not as fast to play it a Notre Dame or

1970
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:56,560
a you know, a Tulsa or a South Florida, if

1971
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:58,840
you will, or a meant this, you know, And so

1972
01:37:59,079 --> 01:38:02,199
they play that that kind of chip and thank god

1973
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:04,199
they're gonna be the ones defending our nation, you know,

1974
01:38:04,199 --> 01:38:06,560
on the front lines of freedom as officers in the

1975
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,960
United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps, the

1976
01:38:09,039 --> 01:38:12,399
United States Army because of these guys do having chips

1977
01:38:12,399 --> 01:38:14,119
like that and they're having this kind of edge and

1978
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:17,920
so it's a great display and everybody that watches on

1979
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,720
Saturday should be thankful that about these young men, with

1980
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:22,920
these young men that are gonna be on the field

1981
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,960
playing in this football game's medium for the final time,

1982
01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:28,960
leaving the blood literally on that field.

1983
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be fun, It'll be it'll be a I

1984
01:38:34,079 --> 01:38:39,000
I think it's gonna be a very it's gonna be

1985
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:43,039
an experience that's gonna mold these these young men into

1986
01:38:43,039 --> 01:38:47,279
the into the leaders that they're destined to become. So yeah,

1987
01:38:47,279 --> 01:38:50,880
I'm really looking forward to to Saturday and mentioned let's

1988
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:51,479
get the pizza.

1989
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 5: Let's go ye, all right?

1990
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,039
Speaker 2: Thanks to Joe Miller, Thanks to salth Erdonado. Our guests

1991
01:38:57,039 --> 01:39:00,479
once again appreciate the Travis Man and Foundation loves spotlighting

1992
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:03,239
the work that they're doing, and local communities across the

1993
01:39:03,279 --> 01:39:06,720
country appreciate my man Stephen Carney, the best co host

1994
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,439
producer in the business. Appreciate all our listeners on the

1995
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,239
College Grid are and Coast to Coast podcast Network. Hope

1996
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:14,800
you enjoyed the Army Navy preview special, because we will

1997
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,840
be back because we got to preview some bowl games.

1998
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:18,800
We got to recap this game, Stephen, but we also

1999
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:21,359
got to get ready for the Wasabi Finway Bowl and

2000
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,239
all of his own Liberty Bowl. So good news that

2001
01:39:24,279 --> 01:39:26,199
we've got two out of the three playing in the

2002
01:39:26,199 --> 01:39:28,880
postseason and a lot to talk about as we get

2003
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,039
ready for bowl season. So we will do that here

2004
01:39:31,079 --> 01:39:32,720
in the coming week, Stephen, but we'll get out of here.

2005
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,479
Hope everybody enjoys the games. Go Army, Go Navy. Hope

2006
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,720
everybody enjoys it, and we have a thriller down to

2007
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,479
the end. But we'll talk to you again very very soon.

2008
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,760
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2009
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,520
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2010
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2011
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2012
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2013
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2014
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