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Speaker 1: We do this on Friday where you record.
Speaker 2: A question you got under fifteen seconds and I will
Speaker 2: answer any question you have. And there's some embarrassing ones
Speaker 2: that unfortunately I answered, and there was one or.
Speaker 3: Two that were absolutely disgusting that I answered.
Speaker 2: And well, it's let me put this way, ask handle
Speaker 2: almost everything or anything. So you go to the iHeart app.
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Speaker 2: Go to the microphone and the other top right hand corner,
Speaker 2: tap it, and you then have fifteen seconds to record
Speaker 2: a question that Neil and Ann will go through and
Speaker 2: I will answer those. On Friday, Neil and Ann will
Speaker 2: select a few, usually embarrassing for me, to make me
Speaker 2: look like an ass, and I usually succeed beyond your
Speaker 2: wildest dreams. Now going to unfortunately the fire, the airport
Speaker 2: fire that burned over twenty three thousand acres, and it
Speaker 2: started with Orange County Public Works crew, a crew moving
Speaker 2: boulders with heavy machinery, and they sparked a fire, the
Speaker 2: fire and it caught with the vegetation, and you've got
Speaker 2: folks that have lost their homes, one hundred and sixty structures,
Speaker 2: twenty two people injured, thousands were forced to flee. And
Speaker 2: usually there's a lawsuit that's going to be filed, and
Speaker 2: usually those don't work. The fire department didn't do enough,
Speaker 2: You didn't rescue me. You could have burned, you could
Speaker 2: have saved my home. Yeah, and there was usually go
Speaker 2: no place. This one a little bit different. Why because
Speaker 2: there are emails and chat messages that have made available
Speaker 2: by a public records request in which the anxiety level
Speaker 2: of the department.
Speaker 1: In the early stages of the fire.
Speaker 2: You can see they they not only caused the fire,
Speaker 2: they could have put it out and they didn't because
Speaker 2: they didn't bring one of those water trucks, which as
Speaker 2: a secondary description of what they do, is that all
Speaker 2: those thousands of gallons of water could be used to
Speaker 2: put out the fire.
Speaker 1: And they didn't have one.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, they should have had one, And one
Speaker 2: of the managers of the crews said, nah, turned it down.
Speaker 1: Wow. They were there to put boulders.
Speaker 2: Along the roadway to block off road vehicles from going
Speaker 2: into private property. It was triple heat, triple digit heat
Speaker 2: that day. The fire rating was high. One the crew
Speaker 2: noticed smoke coming from the basket of one of.
Speaker 1: These construction loaders.
Speaker 2: The machine operator and a supervisor there tried unsuccessfully to
Speaker 2: douse the planes with They have fire extinguishers, and they
Speaker 2: called on nine to one one. They didn't have that
Speaker 2: water truck, which it was supposed to be there, and
Speaker 2: the department did not follow best practices right there in
Speaker 2: the procedures manual and man While this was going on,
Speaker 2: you've got a chat with the deputy director of construction
Speaker 2: talking to the manager saying, I'm going to talk about that.
Speaker 3: We effing started a fire and it's bad.
Speaker 2: The deputy director says, we yeah, and we have a
Speaker 2: guy name redacted, and he adds t tyl lol tlculator
Speaker 2: laugh out loud, and the reply is crap, except it's
Speaker 2: spelled out what happened. I was trying not to put
Speaker 2: it on teams. I didn't want this to go on
Speaker 2: the chat. I didn't want to really admit this. Someone
Speaker 2: didn't follow.
Speaker 1: Directives straight out, straight out.
Speaker 2: They didn't use best practices for the maintenance guidelines. The
Speaker 2: messaging between officials indicates the crew was aware the fire
Speaker 2: danger was high on the day it ignited the blaze.
Speaker 2: The fire is lit, it begins, the work continues as
Speaker 2: the fire grew. Now they're getting upset. One of the
Speaker 2: managers or with the manager that was there, said it's
Speaker 2: growing so fast. Later a project manager writes, holy crap.
Speaker 1: It's growing faster and faster.
Speaker 2: And then there is one line on that chat when
Speaker 2: it became clear the fire was getting out of hand
Speaker 2: in a message, I wish that guy had listened.
Speaker 3: To his directives. Do you think there's a lawsuit there?
Speaker 2: Twenty two homes gone now, twenty two injuries, one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty homes, and thousands of people evacuated. Now, Orange
Speaker 2: County has already gone bankrupt once. I know very few
Speaker 2: people remember that this was a couple of decades ago.
Speaker 2: Orange County went bankrupt because the financial manager was investing
Speaker 2: in these crazy investments on behalf of the county that
Speaker 2: all went south. They had to go bankrupt. I think
Speaker 2: this is going to be number two. I do believes
Speaker 2: number two. If that is in the hell of a lawsuit,
Speaker 2: I don't know what is. I told you earlier today,
Speaker 2: I am going to euthanize. We are going to useonize
Speaker 2: our dog. We're putting down our dog and it's a mess.
Speaker 2: It had it was eaten by a coyote, attacked by
Speaker 2: a coyote, and an infection set in and it's uncontrolled
Speaker 2: and we can't save the dog. So if that came
Speaker 2: over yesterday to put down the dog and the dog
Speaker 2: was a mess, the vet walked in the room, dog
Speaker 2: gets up, goes to the vet, does circus tricks, and
Speaker 2: I'm saying, how do we put down? How do we
Speaker 2: put down this dog? And the vet agreed with me.
Speaker 2: Lindsey on the other hand, said, I've done this a bunch.
Speaker 2: I've put down five dogs over the years, and this happens.
Speaker 2: It's a rally just before they die. And she's absolutely
Speaker 2: right because Gucci, the dog has spent the last three
Speaker 2: weeks in bed, will not get up out of bed
Speaker 2: except when the vet showed up. And the dog has
Speaker 2: literally been in bed and won't get out of bed,
Speaker 2: and pee's in bed and it's in pain. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you have a dog that's in bed that much,
Speaker 2: you know something's wrong. Neil pointed out this morning. He said, Bill,
Speaker 2: I suggest you never sleep in because you're gonna have
Speaker 2: a big problem on your hands.
Speaker 4: Your fiance kills dogs. She's forty years old. She has
Speaker 4: killed five dogs in her life.
Speaker 1: She's not forty, she's older than that.
Speaker 4: She's killed five dogs, and you're gonna be next.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dogs don't even have bank accounts and they were killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going down, Bob, Yeah, I know, I know. He
Speaker 1: is the black widow. I know.
Speaker 2: And it was a shelter dog. Gucci was a sheelter dog.
Speaker 2: As we have adopted shelter dogs, and they're tough, they
Speaker 2: have all kinds of problems and we'll talk about that,
Speaker 2: because I think I'm gonna get another dog, or we
Speaker 2: are gonna get another dog. And this connects to a
Speaker 2: story that was the Only Times yesterday. The number of
Speaker 2: dogs euthanized by animal shelters run by the city has
Speaker 2: increased by seventy two percent since last year. And wow,
Speaker 2: the animal the protective people, all of us. I mean,
Speaker 2: who really wants to see a dog that shouldn't be euthanized? Now,
Speaker 2: if a dog is hurting, if a dog has such
Speaker 2: behavioral issues that it can't deal with anybody, I can
Speaker 2: understand that. But you've got healthy dogs, You've got friendly
Speaker 2: dogs that are being euthanized because the shelters can't deal
Speaker 2: with them. And here's where there's never enough money.
Speaker 1: What do you do.
Speaker 2: You got the homeless problem that is insane, that's growing
Speaker 2: like beyond belief, and you've got these shelters. And there
Speaker 2: was a photo of dogs, a couple of dogs who
Speaker 2: were on the euthanasia list, and their paws were through
Speaker 2: the cage and you could see their faces begging to
Speaker 2: be adopted and they're probably going to be put down.
Speaker 2: It is absolutely heartbreaking, And there just aren't enough shelters,
Speaker 2: there are not enough staff and the management, according to.
Speaker 1: One of the.
Speaker 2: One of the animal rights groups, and it's report by
Speaker 2: Best Friends Animal site, it's a rescue group, says the
Speaker 2: management of the shelters is horrible. The senior management is horrible. Well,
Speaker 2: for one thing, the policy of euthanasia has changed five
Speaker 2: times this year and the people who work in the
Speaker 2: shelters don't know why. Now is there any good news
Speaker 2: about this? Well, it used to be that the vast number,
Speaker 2: the majority of animals brought into a shelter were euthanized.
Speaker 2: Right now, it is ninety one percent of dogs are
Speaker 2: adopted out, cats in the eighty percent range. Getting an
Speaker 2: animal from a shelter, Getting a dog or a cat
Speaker 2: from a shelter is now considered something to do.
Speaker 3: It's a good thing, and people do it and it's
Speaker 3: considered the right thing.
Speaker 2: It used to be that the only people that went
Speaker 2: to shelters to adopt these animals were animal rights and
Speaker 2: rescue people, and they were very rare, and the majority
Speaker 2: of animals were euthanized. Not so much anymore. I mean
Speaker 2: we're talking from January September twelve hundred and twenty four
Speaker 2: dogs were euthanized at the city six shelters, but that
Speaker 2: is a seventy two percent increase with the same period
Speaker 2: a year ago. And the number of dogs entering the
Speaker 2: shelters has increased since twenty twenty two, and the number
Speaker 2: put to.
Speaker 1: Death has outpaced the population.
Speaker 2: Gain that's going in. We're not doing enough. Where does
Speaker 2: the money go? And frankly, seeing a dog that's begging
Speaker 2: to be rescued through a cage really hits you far
Speaker 2: more than a guy standing on the corner with a
Speaker 2: sign that says.
Speaker 1: Will work for food.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 3: You know, usually I don't get this emotional.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't care. But you know, I'm putting
Speaker 2: down Gucci today and I go in there and she's
Speaker 2: in bed, and I look at Gucci and I pet her,
Speaker 2: and she looks at me in the and you can
Speaker 2: see what she is saying in through her pain.
Speaker 1: Please don't kill me, please.
Speaker 4: Okay, saying don't leave me in the room with Lindsey
Speaker 4: is what she's saying. Ye, he's got five notches on
Speaker 4: her belt. And all right, what the belt is made of?
Speaker 4: I think it's dog number one?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: It is time for do they have a case with
Speaker 2: Wayne Resnik, and we're not going to.
Speaker 1: Do the first segment.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do.
Speaker 1: Do they have a case?
Speaker 2: I want to ask you in your wheelhouse, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Hunter Biden was pardoned by the president, which of course
Speaker 2: a president's allowed to do.
Speaker 1: He gave an.
Speaker 2: Unconditional pardon, and he came up with all the reasons.
Speaker 2: And Biden is a complete hypocrite. I wish he would
Speaker 2: just be honest about it. He said that Hunter Biden
Speaker 2: was prosecuted for political reasons. Trump said the same thing,
Speaker 2: but Trump was prosecuted by a democratic administration. And there
Speaker 2: was a firewall that Joe Biden totally upheld where a
Speaker 2: special prosecutor independent prosecutor. Biden said it was a political
Speaker 2: attack on his son and said, and this is what
Speaker 2: I want to ask you anybody else in that same circumstance.
Speaker 1: Convicted of a.
Speaker 2: Gun violation because he put on the form I do
Speaker 2: not use drugs, and it was proved that he did,
Speaker 2: and he did that for eleven days and the gun
Speaker 2: wasn't used. And tax evasion one point nine counts one
Speaker 2: point four million dollars in taxes he didn't pay, which
Speaker 2: he did pay back, and he was looking at some
Speaker 2: jail time.
Speaker 1: Now, the argument that Biden says.
Speaker 2: Someone in similar circumstances wouldn't have been nailed by the
Speaker 2: Justice Department, what say you?
Speaker 1: The argument is he did what with the Justice Department?
Speaker 5: That well, the Justice Department that he basically interfered or
Speaker 5: you certain?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, he let them know, no, no,
Speaker 2: he let the Juste Department.
Speaker 1: Do his thing. He did. He agreed to the firewall.
Speaker 2: But he is saying that the reason his son was
Speaker 2: prosecuted was for political reasons by his own administration, which
Speaker 2: is a croc and except there was a special prosecutor,
Speaker 2: so okay, and so that's completely independent. And Hunter Biden,
Speaker 2: if he was not the son of a press would not.
Speaker 1: Have gone through this.
Speaker 2: That anybody in the same circumstances, not a president's son,
Speaker 2: would not have been prosecuted.
Speaker 5: Well, I can't speak to people's motivations, but I can
Speaker 5: tell you someone else in Hunter Biden's situation would have
Speaker 5: been treated the way that Hunter Biden was treated the
Speaker 5: first time around, which is to say, he was offered
Speaker 5: a very lenient plea arrangement to make it all go
Speaker 5: away and not go to prison, and then something happened
Speaker 5: at that plea hearing where there was a misunderstanding about
Speaker 5: what it meant or didn't mean, or whether or not
Speaker 5: he could be prosecuted for other tax crimes. And the
Speaker 5: government said, yes, he can be prosecuted for other tax crimes,
Speaker 5: and the defense said, that's not our understanding, and the
Speaker 5: plea deal blew up, and so he found himself facing
Speaker 5: these full charges. And also so the first thing is
Speaker 5: he was treated differently at first, which is to say,
Speaker 5: the way someone in his position would have been treated,
Speaker 5: someone who had a lot of personal problems and drug
Speaker 5: addictions and was in a state.
Speaker 1: Of his life unlike most of the rest of his life.
Speaker 5: The lawyers, it sounds like, caused a commotion, and then
Speaker 5: they had a choice veer even further into leniency. Look,
Speaker 5: we don't want this guy. We don't really want this
Speaker 5: guy to go to jail. We don't even really need
Speaker 5: convictions on all of this stuff. That's not going to
Speaker 5: happen now. We can either veer left and drop.
Speaker 1: Some charges or.
Speaker 5: Straight ahead, which is full trial, full convictions.
Speaker 1: And that's the choice that they made.
Speaker 5: And did they make that choice because of who he was, Yes,
Speaker 5: but they kind of had to because there was no
Speaker 5: way they were going to survive veering the other way
Speaker 5: and saying our lenient plea deal didn't work out. So
Speaker 5: we're gonna wash our hands of the whole case and
Speaker 5: you can walk away a free man that never would
Speaker 5: have stood in the court of public opinion.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the argument that he was treated differently because
Speaker 2: he's Hunter Biden really is not the case. Starting out,
Speaker 2: he was given the deal that anybody else would have
Speaker 2: been given in the same circumstance, effectively, and something blew
Speaker 2: up in trial or in the plea, in the plea agreement,
Speaker 2: which is aberrational, and that's not normally what happens. So
Speaker 2: the argument is that Joe Biden is not only wrong,
Speaker 2: but he is a hypocrite, and he's saying this was
Speaker 2: political and I wish god, I wish she was honest
Speaker 2: about this and just say, you know, I'm pardoning him
Speaker 2: because he's my son.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Next question, and this is what happened with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 2: When remember the son of Fabio Nunez who is convicted
Speaker 2: and did seven years, or was convicted and was given
Speaker 2: seven years for stabbing someone, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was
Speaker 2: friends with Fabio Nunez, who was an assemblyman Speaker of
Speaker 2: the Assembly. He simply said, this is Arnold Schwarzenegger. When
Speaker 2: he commuted it down to two years.
Speaker 3: He said, the reason I'm doing this is Fabio is
Speaker 3: a friend.
Speaker 1: That's it. We thank you very much. Next, questionly allowable, right,
Speaker 1: they have that power.
Speaker 5: Can I ask you something about this Joe Biden pardoning
Speaker 5: his son. He always said he would never interfere, he
Speaker 5: would not disrupt or interfere with the Department Justice.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this did is this?
Speaker 5: Is this a loophole in that he can say I
Speaker 5: didn't stop them from charging him, from demaking him. I
Speaker 5: am going to stop them though, I am going to
Speaker 5: stop them from sentencing him.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and that's it.
Speaker 5: But is it a loophole or in fact, has he interfered?
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't think he's interfered.
Speaker 2: Well, he's interfering, he will Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1: I was saying about this morning, and I was I
Speaker 1: was on your side.
Speaker 5: I was saying, well, he didn't really didn't technically interfere,
Speaker 5: but it's kind of a loophole.
Speaker 1: But now I'm thinking he did interfere.
Speaker 5: Because he didn't let the case go all the way
Speaker 5: to its conclusion. That's looking what sentence was imposed. We
Speaker 5: then make a decision about whether he.
Speaker 1: Will buy that pardon.
Speaker 3: But then how does he do that when he is
Speaker 3: out of the presidency.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, the sentencing was gonna be in like a
Speaker 1: week and a half. Well he was going to go
Speaker 1: to trial. Uh oh, okay, so he will You're right.
Speaker 5: No, he because it was convicted by a jury on
Speaker 5: the gun charge and he ended up pleading guilty to
Speaker 5: the tax stuff.
Speaker 1: All right, we're done.
Speaker 2: I just wanted your view on that because this is
Speaker 2: in Wayne's wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna come back. Did interfere? That's great?
Speaker 2: Okay, do they have a case with Wayne? As we
Speaker 2: on the show, and you know the rules, Wayne, let's do.
Speaker 5: It, all right, So getting the time machine with me, Bill,
Speaker 5: I'm flying coach, you're flying business class because food chain
Speaker 5: and we go back to nineteen seventy and we passed
Speaker 5: the Controlled Substances Act and Nixon signs it, and it
Speaker 5: creates the current regime of outlining a lot a lot
Speaker 5: of drugs and the schedule one, two, three, four five
Speaker 5: system that we have. Now we fast forward to twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two and the Great State of Mississippi passes a
Speaker 5: Medical Cannabis Act authorizing the sale and use of marijuana
Speaker 5: for certain medicinal purposes. And in this law is a
Speaker 5: provision that says you will be limited in when, where
Speaker 5: and how you can advertise your legal in Mississippi medical
Speaker 5: marijuana business. You can have a sign on your actual dispensary.
Speaker 1: Of course, you can be listed in a business.
Speaker 5: Directory like the phone book, medical publications, that kind of thing.
Speaker 5: But you can't just like, for example, you can't take
Speaker 5: out an ad in the newspaper, you can't run an
Speaker 5: ad on the radio, you can't post on social media.
Speaker 5: So here comes the owner of a medical marijuana dispensary
Speaker 5: and he says, you're violating my First Amendment rights. And
Speaker 5: the state says, well, hold up, buddy, you're talking about
Speaker 5: commercial speech here, the advertising of a business, and you
Speaker 5: have less rights with commercial speech as you might with
Speaker 5: political speech, for example, and so we can regulate your speech.
Speaker 5: And he says, listen, the first men protects stuff that's legal.
Speaker 1: This is legal in Mississippi.
Speaker 5: What I'm doing is legal, And they say, yes, it
Speaker 5: is one hundred percent legal. Therefore, not letting me advertise
Speaker 5: my legal behavior is a violation. And they say, no,
Speaker 5: it's not because and this is really the decision you
Speaker 5: got to make. What you're doing is legal in Mississippi,
Speaker 5: but what you're doing isn't legal because it's still illegal
Speaker 5: at the federal level. Ooh, and therefore you don't have
Speaker 5: any First Amendment protections for commercial speech for illegal behavior.
Speaker 5: And he says, Ah, if the Feds wanted to outlaw
Speaker 5: medical marijuana advertising, they could do it because they're the
Speaker 5: ones for whom it is illegal, but for you, it's legal,
Speaker 5: and therefore you cannot regulate it. And they say it
Speaker 5: doesn't matter. It doesn't have to match up that way.
Speaker 5: It is illegal, therefore it can be regulated. It doesn't
Speaker 5: matter who made it illegal. It doesn't matter who's regulating.
Speaker 5: So does he have a case or no?
Speaker 3: I think he does.
Speaker 2: I think all the medical marijuana laws in the country,
Speaker 2: recreational medical marijuana, I think, are illegal, and the only
Speaker 2: reason they're allowed is because the Feds aren't enforcing that's it,
Speaker 2: and so federal law. A matter of fact, I would
Speaker 2: even go to the point where even having the dispensary
Speaker 2: itself is illegal and so their argument that it's the
Speaker 2: First Amendment right to I don't think any of that works.
Speaker 2: And the judges could go either way. If I were
Speaker 2: a jud I'd say, you don't have an argument, and
Speaker 2: the city doesn't have an argument, and the state doesn't
Speaker 2: have an argument, So let's flip a coint and the
Speaker 2: Feds could shut you down tomorrow. And I think that
Speaker 2: argument fails on its face because federal law supersedes any
Speaker 2: state or local law and is simply a question of enforcement,
Speaker 2: which they don't want to do.
Speaker 3: So I don't even care which way they go. Which
Speaker 3: way do they go?
Speaker 1: Well, the dispensary owner.
Speaker 5: And the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals says, you have
Speaker 5: no case. It doesn't matter that it's legal in Mississippi.
Speaker 5: We can still prevent you from advertising it because it's
Speaker 5: illegal federally.
Speaker 1: Okay, that end of your case, sir, could have gone.
Speaker 2: That way, and I think they went through the federal
Speaker 2: supremacy concept that federal law controls everything. Okay, we're done,
Speaker 2: Thank you way, We'll see you next Monday, and thanks to.
Speaker 3: Any kill us is always good.
Speaker 2: All Right, we're done, guys, We're back again tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2: Wake up call with Amy, I come aboard with Neil
Speaker 2: at six and of course kno and are always with
Speaker 2: us sort of hanging out.
Speaker 3: And where are we going to be tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Thank you very much for bringing that
Speaker 1: up again.
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