WEBVTT 1 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:41.159 Welcome back, Midnight Viewers to Father Malone's weekly round up. 2 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:43.719 I am Father Malone. In with me as always is 3 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:48.640 the delightful Miss ripley g. That is right. We're back 4 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.840 and we're rested, and we're full of VIM and vigor 5 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:55.119 this time, not just VIM, which is useless on its own. 6 00:00:55.439 --> 00:00:57.880 This episode is more of an easing into the boiling 7 00:00:57.880 --> 00:01:01.039 tub of podcasting bubble bath. I'm taking it's slow, taking 8 00:01:01.039 --> 00:01:03.600 it gently. Things have been a bit cuckoo here at 9 00:01:03.640 --> 00:01:07.879 the kab Lighthouse. I mentioned some shakeups and those are forthcoming. 10 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.319 Nothing too monumental, nothing you can't handle. But to that end, 11 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:13.400 I'm going to have Mike White from the Projection Booth 12 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.680 and from Midnight Viewing joining us to talk about this 13 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:18.840 week's topic, The Running Man. Mike is one of two 14 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.799 permanent hosts here on Midnight Viewing, the other being film 15 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:25.640 Fest in Noise Junkie, Mister HP, you understand yet, maybe 16 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.680 maybe not, but something you definitely need to understand is 17 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:31.799 that you should be watching Pluribus that is breaking bad 18 00:01:31.799 --> 00:01:34.400 in Better Call Saul and former X Files writer Vince 19 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.760 Gilligan's news show The X Files has some bearing on 20 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:39.680 one of his solo series for the first time, as 21 00:01:39.719 --> 00:01:42.719 it concerns an alien invasion that turns all but a 22 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.519 handful of humans into a hive mind where they're all 23 00:01:45.599 --> 00:01:51.359 so nice, like really accommodating and respectful. Remember Invasion of 24 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.359 the Body Snatchers. The fear there wasn't necessarily joining a 25 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.159 collective or losing your identity. Those movies were about the 26 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.959 fear of becoming dull and shabby. Are anything but, And 27 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.159 it brings up a lot of crazy and interesting questions. 28 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:06.239 And if I say one word more, I'm going to 29 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:09.319 be spoiling everything. And the show is delighting me on 30 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:11.240 the regular basis, so I'm not gonna say anything else. 31 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:15.080 Watch that show. Pluribus terrible title. I guess I kind 32 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.159 of like this title. Honestly, I seem to be in 33 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:20.479 the minority there. What else has happened since last week? Spoke, 34 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.639 I'll tell you what's been happening, Klingons, I am Nick 35 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.960 deep in gach in Tales of Honor. That's right. Star 36 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:29.280 trek Fest has officially begun with the release of our 37 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:33.360 episode on Star Trek. The Motion Picture Patreon subscribers already 38 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.759 have a wrath of Khan, and we'll soon have search 39 00:02:35.879 --> 00:02:38.520 for spot. But like I said, I am now too 40 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.599 fucking far gone into the twenty third century and all 41 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.439 it's gondamned optimism. I think maybe I'd blocked out how 42 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.560 deep my nerdiness ran when it came to trick. But 43 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.680 Jesus Christ, it's back. This is like, I don't know, 44 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.520 It's like putting on a suit of clothes from your 45 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.560 youth and finding new and interesting ways to wear them. 46 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:57.080 That is a terrible analogy. Let me just say I'm 47 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.000 pulling a lot of interesting observations out of my latest 48 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.520 go around in this universe with Kirk and company. I'm 49 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:04.479 actually having kind of a good time. In addition to 50 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.680 early trek Fest, patrons have access to my crossover show 51 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:11.319 with a Year and Horrors Paul Waller. That's our werewolf extravaganza. 52 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:15.120 Little Old Lady got mutilated late last night, never gets old, 53 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.319 saying that we've got three episodes down now, Wolfman Frankenstein 54 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:22.360 Meets the Wolfman and Curse of the wolf Man. That's 55 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.800 the one with Oliver Reed, a man who had the 56 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.639 talents of an eagle tattooed on the head of his penis, 57 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:32.560 which makes him officially the hardest Englishman who has ever lived. 58 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:34.719 I don't think we talked about mister Reid's penis on 59 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.639 the show, so that's an exclusive for you here, Patreon, 60 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:41.800 be damned. Also, I've been reading Charles Groden's book How 61 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.800 I Get Through Life, A Wise and Witty Guide. It's 62 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:48.840 pretty remarkable. That guy was immensely talented. If you only 63 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.759 know him from those Beethoven movies, do yourself a favor 64 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.520 and go back and check out some of his early work, 65 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:57.080 classics like The Great mupp With Caper. Should we do 66 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.840 a Charles Groden fest? Is that something anyone be interested in? 67 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.400 He did do Midnight Run, which is the perfect buddy film. 68 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.280 But he's also in The Heartbreak Kid, in Catch twenty two, 69 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:12.240 Rosemary's Baby, that fucking Dino de Larentis, King Kong, the 70 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:15.039 Incredible Shrinking Woman. God damn it, I'm talking myself into this, 71 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.800 The Lonely Guy. Oh man. If even one of you 72 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:20.360 writes in that that's a good idea, then twenty twenty 73 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.759 six is going to be a slow burn of derision 74 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.639 with the films of Charles Grodin. You know, as a 75 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:27.680 kid he was in twenty Thousand Leagues under the Sea, 76 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:31.319 he's uncredited, but he's a drummer boy in that movie. Rip, 77 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.800 you got to pick This week, Rip has discovered sitting 78 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:37.079 in my lap. Now that winter has descended on the 79 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:41.600 desert and we're getting into those absolutely abysmal temperatures like 80 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:45.680 fifty eight degrees, she is like velcrow all of a sudden. 81 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:47.560 If I sit for more than five seconds, she just 82 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:51.079 appears like magic. It wouldn't be a problem, except anytime 83 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.879 I put her down, my lab is immediately filled with 84 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:57.879 miss Foxy Brown, which makes Ripley jealous, and the cycle continues. 85 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:00.279 Are there any cute women out there you want to 86 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:04.199 sit on my lap? I will work you into the schedule. Okay, 87 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:07.279 that is enough of my nonsense. Let's get to running 88 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:11.879 The running Man, The running Man, The running Man. I 89 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:14.759 keep hearing different pronunciations of it. It's really weird anyway. 90 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.959 Released two days ago, November fourteenth, twenty twenty five, it 91 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:20.560 was directed by Edgar Wright from a screenplay by Edgar 92 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:23.480 Wright and Michael McCall, based on the novel by Stephen King, 93 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:25.959 even though it should say based on a novel by 94 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:30.079 Richard Blachman. It stars Glenn Powell, Lee Pace, Michael Sarah, 95 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.319 Katie O'Brien, Jamie Lawson, William H. Macy, and Abelia Jones. 96 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:35.439 Here's the trailer. 97 00:05:37.600 --> 00:05:40.600 You know, I've been thinking about the show for the 98 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:41.560 next thirty days. 99 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.720 Everyone in the country is trying to murder me. 100 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:59.959 And that's crazy, right, people on these games never come back. 101 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.439 We have no choice. We need money for a doctor. 102 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.759 Now, Welcome to The Running Man. 103 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:12.040 Contestants will be hunting for thirty days. How anyone can 104 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:12.560 kill you? 105 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.199 So by and you will walk away with a billion dollars. 106 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.480 I always thought this was fake. 107 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.120 I'm pretty real now. 108 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:39.800 I need weapons and ID handed disguise. Holy shit, is 109 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:49.160 that C four that's done for sale? Don't you get it? 110 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:50.439 This game is rick. 111 00:06:54.959 --> 00:07:03.759 Very name beck at you. 112 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:04.120 Everything? 113 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:05.000 Okay, mister spirit. 114 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:16.079 You know why they cheer for you down there. If 115 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:21.759 you could survive against those codes, so can that. I'm 116 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:23.759 just trying to get back to my family. 117 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:25.839 There. 118 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:47.600 Yes, I'll be honest with you. I can't just let 119 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:48.319 you win this game. 120 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:56.560 What is happening? 121 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:07.120 Welcome to The Running Man. Welcome to a special episode 122 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.560 of The Projection Booth at Midnight Viewing. I'm your host, 123 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:11.800 Bike Whitcho and me of course, is father Malone. 124 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:13.560 Oh hey, I'm running. 125 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:16.560 He's definitely running. He's running in place this whole time. 126 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.120 If he sounds a little winded at the end of 127 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:19.680 the recording, Now know why. 128 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:21.959 I got one of those standing discs. 129 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:25.519 It's like those weirdos that did a screening of this 130 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:29.040 in a gym with all these treadmills and stuff. 131 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.160 That was the long walk at that was the long run. 132 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.320 They should have done a running Man. If they walked 133 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.679 for the long Walk, they should have ran for the 134 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:36.240 Running Man. 135 00:08:36.440 --> 00:08:38.279 That's right. It should have been an indoor court that 136 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:40.159 they had to keep running around while watching the movie 137 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:41.679 and then answering key questions. 138 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:44.679 On this episode, we're going to be discussing Edgar Wrights's 139 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.240 The Running Man, the twenty twenty five adaptation of Stephen 140 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.600 King's dystopian thriller. We will be discussing Wright's kinetic style, 141 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.080 the film's political edge, and Glenn powell S Cinema's Knew 142 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:59.919 Everyman from a spectacle as entertainment to the Eerie from 143 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:03.759 familiarity of its media circus. We will be spoiling the film, 144 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:06.759 the book, and of course the nineteen eighty seven film 145 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:09.879 while we're at it. So fatherm alone. Can't ask you 146 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:11.519 when was the first time you saw it, because it 147 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:13.919 was probably this weekend. What did you think of The 148 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:14.799 Running Man. 149 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.240 Two days ago? I? Look, I'm a long time Stephen 150 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.759 King person. Obviously, I read the Bachman book when it 151 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.919 came out, and I saw the Schwarzenegger movie in the 152 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:26.799 theater and I've seen it a couple of times since. 153 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.000 Then saw this movie two days ago. Now as a 154 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:33.120 fan of sort of the book, first, I think this 155 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:39.879 is a much more layered and true version or adaptation 156 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.720 of that novel, and much more just the spirit of it, 157 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.320 never mind the sort of plot and everything. And I 158 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.759 think it was overall really enjoyable. And I thought, oh, 159 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.799 this is a step above the Schwarzenegger movie finally, because 160 00:09:51.840 --> 00:09:53.879 I was never that big a fan of that movie 161 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.320 as an adaptation. And I end up I don't want 162 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:00.240 to bury the Leader or anything, but I liked this 163 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.559 movie plenty. But I think the last twenty minutes of 164 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.840 this movie ruined the whole thing for me. So I 165 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.120 can't even if someone were to ask me, would I 166 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.320 recommend the movie. I probably wouldn't based on the end, 167 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:11.480 but liked it. 168 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.960 Yeah, Yeah, I think that's about my take as well. 169 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.679 I really like the original running Man from nineteen eighty seven. 170 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:23.440 We talked about it gosh all the way back in 171 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:28.759 twenty seventeen. Simpler times twenty seventeen, less dystopia. I don't 172 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.279 know if Edgar Wright was the right person to direct this, 173 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.679 just because I think he gets so caught up in 174 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:40.720 the neon slickness of things that the dystopia part really 175 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:45.000 takes a back seat. Sometimes. I've wanted this to be 176 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:49.240 set more in a Children of Men type of world 177 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:54.120 rather than Everything seems to be pretty umpart with where 178 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.799 we're at today. It doesn't seem to be as desperate 179 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:58.360 as the book. 180 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:00.759 I didn't mean the bear Head. This movie came out 181 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.720 a year ago, you would have felt this was a 182 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:04.279 dystopian view of America. 183 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:07.519 I think you're right. I think you're right, especially now 184 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.279 with God the whole idea, and it's so funny that 185 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.159 they even were doing this back in eighty seven, the 186 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:18.240 idea of the deep fakes and recasting things when it 187 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:22.480 came to showing us how awful Ben Richards is. Now 188 00:11:22.519 --> 00:11:25.720 it's just people make AI videos of other people all 189 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.879 the time and have them do absolutely awful things. And 190 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:32.720 so now you're watching this on television, the television of 191 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:36.080 twenty twenty five The Running Man, and you're like, oh, yeah, 192 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.399 I can see that. Of course, that's probably not very 193 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.159 difficult for them to do it all. And there's one 194 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:43.720 point where Glenn Powell's Ben Richards even says, why didn't 195 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.559 you fake the whole thing? And yeah, I don't know. 196 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:50.080 I guess we do find out the answer about Richard's family, 197 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.759 but back that we don't know in the book, and 198 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.879 that the book that ending is just it tears the 199 00:11:57.159 --> 00:12:03.519 heart out of you. It's amazingly just dire. And I yeah, 200 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.879 the way that they have to double back on that 201 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:11.200 with this and suddenly becomes a conspiracy theory type of thing. 202 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:14.200 And my god, is somebody who just saw Bougonia two 203 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.879 weeks ago. I'm like, can we quit making conspiracy theorists 204 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.600 the hero of these films because it's not really a 205 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:22.320 good thing. 206 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:25.279 You know. Last night I watched the first three episodes 207 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:29.080 of the of Vince Gueligan's new series Pluribus, and that's 208 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.759 about an alien invasion, but it's a viral thing, and 209 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:35.279 early in the pilot of the series are lead characters 210 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.320 looking up and she sees contrails all through the night 211 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.799 sky like patterns of them, and she's, wow, that's interesting, 212 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.080 and that's how they're spreading it. Had the same exact thought, like, yeah, 213 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:51.240 that's clever and fun to confirm conspiracy theorists as correct. Nevertheless, 214 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.000 stop doing it, because apparently we're all doing it and 215 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:57.159 we're actually legitimizing it, so knock it off. 216 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:00.480 I was at breakfast this morning and there was a 217 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:04.039 guy sitting across for me that had a QAnon shirt on, 218 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:07.080 and I'm like, that's okay, you just wear your mental 219 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.559 illness on your shirt these days. I guess that's how 220 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:12.159 we're doing it. And when I watch these characters, like 221 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.279 because they don't go too into the QAnon or the 222 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.000 conspiracy theory type thing. And we're supposed to be all 223 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.360 appreciative of these guys who are making these like zines 224 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:29.639 or basically YouTube videos or maybe TikTok type videos. It's 225 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:32.200 all right, guys, they're the ones who know the truth 226 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.000 and this is how they're trying to get the truth out. 227 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.600 It just feels so wrong in twenty twenty five to 228 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:40.720 see these videos where you're like, this is what's really 229 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.799 going on. I'm like, all right, whenever anybody tries to 230 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:46.519 tell you that they're just one hundred percent full of shit. 231 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.799 Yeah, And it's like a lazy way to add a 232 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:54.600 narrator nowadays, to have the conspiracy nut. That's it's the 233 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:58.440 same as the tabloid reporter or something like the modern 234 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:02.039 day equivalent, and it's it's unnerving at best. As to 235 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.679 that powerhouse ending from the book, the one that you 236 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:07.799 can't make into a film anymore since the year two 237 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:11.519 thousand and one, it speaks to the problem with both films, 238 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.679 which is the book is about a guy who gets 239 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.919 onto a game show because he is completely desperate because 240 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.039 his daughter is ill and he can't get work anywhere 241 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:25.159 because he's basically been blacklisted for one event that happened 242 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:31.600 early in his life. And so he goes up against 243 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:35.639 this sort of corporation that is running everything. Like you said, 244 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.919 they're controlling the narrative with deep fakes and everything. And 245 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:42.600 in the book, at the end, he effectively crashes a 246 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:48.159 plane into the network building, potentially starting the creating the 247 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.279 spark that will ignite a rebellion against the corporations that 248 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.679 are oppressing everybody. That's the idea the movies want to 249 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:59.639 have both stories playing out simultaneously. They want the guy 250 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:02.720 on the run again with everyone against him, and they 251 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:06.799 want him to be sparking the revolution. It's you can't 252 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:10.799 have it either it ends with a spark or or 253 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:14.759 don't include it because they want the fucking revolution to 254 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.039 happen and then end they like want a triumph, they 255 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:18.960 want the government to come down and it is so 256 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.600 it's where we are suspending our disbelief so fucking hard 257 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.320 already for this dystopian world and then to dismiss it away. 258 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.200 It's almost like a fairy tale ending like both films. 259 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:33.000 Oh absolutely, yeah. 260 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:33.279 Yeah. 261 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:36.240 It's funny because I kept seeing headlines about this movie 262 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:40.000 going Edgar rates film is great until it stumbles, and 263 00:15:40.039 --> 00:15:43.039 I'm like, oh boy, what where's the stumble going to happen? 264 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:46.440 So I knew going in that something bad was going 265 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.960 to happen, And at the same time, I don't necessarily 266 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:52.440 believe headlines because it's like what you consider a stumble 267 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:54.559 in a movie. I might consider the greatest twist of 268 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:57.480 all times. Watching this, I just can say, Okay, what's 269 00:15:57.480 --> 00:15:59.960 it gonna be? What's gonna be? When Michael Sarah Show 270 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.759 up and he's playing this character who in the book 271 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:08.240 was basically had no discerning personality all. He was fat, 272 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.679 and we know that Stephen King does not like fat 273 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:15.399 people whatever, so just hey, this guy's fat and his 274 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.720 mom's crazy. His mom calls the cops and they are 275 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:21.440 on the run and getting this big car wreck, and 276 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:25.240 this guy drives off as he's like bleeding out and 277 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.720 coughing up black blood and bile and all this stuff. 278 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.200 And I'm like, Okay, is it that Michael Sarah is 279 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:35.120 again the conspiracy theorist and that he's got the zine 280 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:38.159 making stuff and that he's got all of these traps 281 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:40.519 in his house? Is that the twist that they're talking about? 282 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:45.360 Because up until that point it's a fairly good adaptation. 283 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.399 It stays pretty true, and even after that point they 284 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.039 get back to it a little bit more, and I 285 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:52.480 was like, all right, Yeah, this isn't too bad. What 286 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:54.639 are they talking about? What's the stumbling block? Because I 287 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:59.440 just see so much of this being such a good adaptation. Again, 288 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:01.759 I would have liked it to have been a little 289 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.759 bit more dire. We're selling tickets here, I understand if 290 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:06.640 you're not going to make this a gut punch every 291 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:11.599 single way around. But then I saw where the real 292 00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:15.920 twists came in, and that was Lee Pace playing this 293 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:18.799 mass killer and not being Kevin Durant. Why wasn't it 294 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:20.720 Kevin Durant? That was the whole movie for me. It 295 00:17:20.839 --> 00:17:22.359 just got ruined at that point. 296 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.680 I tally should have been the moment that the movie 297 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:29.440 veered literally off course, is when he gets into the 298 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.480 car with Amelia or Emily or Amelia or whatever her 299 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:34.960 name is at the end, as soon as that character 300 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:37.480 opens her mouth, as soon as it becomes a polemic 301 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.160 about the haves and the have nots, Who fucking cares? 302 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.960 At this point you are on the run and she's oh, 303 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:50.160 oh my god. It was so clumsy and stumbling, whereas 304 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.279 everything seemed really fleet of foot and kind of economical. 305 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:57.880 Didn't notice time passing, was actually interested in these characters, 306 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.599 was interested in the world they had created, and then 307 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:04.519 in one scene it just completely dissembled it. And then 308 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.559 it does. It continues to stumble along like I can't 309 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:11.119 believe how far it falls when it gets there. 310 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:14.640 Oh god, yeah, yeah. When she showed up, I was like, oh, yeah, 311 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:17.599 she isn't the story. I do remember her but she's 312 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:21.400 no Maria can Cheata Alonzo. I just was not following her. 313 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.279 And like, I like the Maria and Chidah Alonzo character 314 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:30.079 a lot because she is the what she writes the 315 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:33.640 music for the network. So she's like in that pocket. 316 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:37.559 And then she's got ooh, illegal music and illegal clothes 317 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.680 and all these things contraband she's everybody does it, and 318 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:43.759 it's okay, yeah, that's true. Everybody does do this, but 319 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.200 eventually you're gonna get punished for it and you're gonna 320 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.960 be made an example of. I like her way better 321 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.400 than this other character. It just make her more vapid, 322 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.440 make her because they get what ten minutes with this 323 00:18:57.559 --> 00:19:02.359 character if that, and they just she switches like nobody's business. 324 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:04.240 It's oh my god, I have this murderer in my 325 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.599 car too. Oh sure, I'll help you out. And it's 326 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.640 within just a few moments. I was like, that doesn't 327 00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:12.799 ring true at all. And I know you can stretch 328 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.079 it out longer in a book, but it just does 329 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:17.480 not ring true to me. 330 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:23.039 Remember they live where Rowdy Rodny Piper kidnaps Meg Foster 331 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.240 and he gets her from the parking lot all the 332 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:29.000 way to her house and she's playing along the entire 333 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.920 time before she clocks him of the bottle and he 334 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.759 goes out the window like that would be the mindset 335 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.720 of anyone being kidnapped by anyone, particularly a character who's 336 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:41.559 basically like she's a rich person in this movie, there 337 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.000 are haves and have nots, and she's basically poor people 338 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.960 are a piece of shit. And then he says three 339 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:48.279 things my daughter was sick, and she's Oh my god, 340 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:51.440 my entire worldview is incorrect. I'm gonna help you win 341 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.079 this game. What the fuck? 342 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:59.960 Edgar? Yeah, yeah, you see that scarf costs more than 343 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:04.079 my daughter's welfare. So okay, what. 344 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.039 Was that terrible Joel Schumacher movie with Matthew McConaughey. It 345 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.839 was like a John Grisham novel where his big it 346 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:13.920 was like a case where Samuel Jackson was on trial 347 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:20.079 and Matthew McConaughey's big closing statement was and now imagine 348 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.240 they were white in the Jersey, Oh my god, we'll 349 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.359 let this man free for wantonly killing these people? 350 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:28.359 Is that the yes? 351 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:28.720 I did? 352 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.599 And I hope they burn in hell? Was that one? 353 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:31.599 That's the one? Yeah? 354 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:34.599 Okay, yeah, I don't remember the name of it unless 355 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:37.240 it was like the Client List or something. I don't 356 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:40.480 even there were a bunch of those in the especially 357 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.279 in the early nineties. We just were like loving Grisham adaptations. 358 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.519 The Stenographer, is that what it was? 359 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:52.039 No, the court Bailiff, Time to Kill is the name 360 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:52.319 of it. 361 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:57.119 Yeah, Oh that's what it was. Oh man, Okay, here's 362 00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.960 something I did because, as I said, we're i'm folks, 363 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.079 I'm so mad, and that the movie's so fresh in 364 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:04.799 my mind at that ending that it painted over a 365 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:06.400 lot that I liked about the movie, and I did 366 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:10.359 a great a great portion of it, including Glenn Powell, 367 00:21:10.880 --> 00:21:13.359 who it's the second time we've gotten in a shot 368 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.839 at Ben Richards as a character, and the second time 369 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:18.279 they've gotten it completely wrong. As far as the guy's 370 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:24.039 physique and outlook. He's beaten, broken down, described as near tubercular. 371 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:27.240 I read the book again yesterday. He's as near tubercular. 372 00:21:27.480 --> 00:21:30.519 And here we've got this another buff guy. But they 373 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.799 leaned into the anger portion of it, which I really liked. 374 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:37.920 And except it's one of these things where they did 375 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.680 this in the first film too. Now I thought this 376 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.279 was just a facet of eighties action movies where they 377 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:44.759 needed the hero to be an anti hero, like they 378 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.680 had to have the Breaking out of Prison or something like. 379 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:50.440 There were so many characters, but of course, like the 380 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:53.319 A Team, they were all wrongly convicted, just like Ben 381 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:55.640 Richards in the first film. So they repeat that here 382 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.559 where his temper has gotten him kicked off of jobs, 383 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.160 but it's because he's protecting the downtrod in every single time, 384 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:05.519 it's basically a frame for a crime he didn't commit. 385 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:09.680 Having said that, I liked I thought that in the 386 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.599 moments where they were displaying the anger, that's when Edgar 387 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.839 Wright came alive as a filmmaker and the film came alive. 388 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.680 So for some reason, anger in the first portion of 389 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.079 this movie really clicked with me. Oh yeah. 390 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:26.079 Owl is an interesting choice for me because I think 391 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.759 I've critiqued most Schwartzenegger films, especially when it comes to 392 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.720 something like a total recall as far as what if 393 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:35.680 a different person were playing this. What if somebody who 394 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:38.640 you wouldn't expect to look like a secret agent was 395 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:42.240 playing a secret agent Like Arnold. You look at this 396 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:46.240 guy and he's not human. He looks like an uber human. 397 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:49.480 He doesn't look like a regular just John and Mary 398 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.440 Jane walking down the street type of person and you 399 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.079 get howl and I'm like, Okay, that kind of makes sense. 400 00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:57.200 Like I agree with you that he's very jacked in 401 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.440