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Speaker 1: Tonight's yes, Marie du Monta, looking.

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Speaker 2: Back on the life that you leaving, then rested.

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Speaker 3: Home in the crowd, stick around through the create the

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feeling for the fire you dancing around and we hear

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is the sound of the treeing and no one cares

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where he's coming from. My ears are still ring and feeding.

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I guess we all knew from the start.

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Speaker 2: The days not gos no, you know, one of these

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days will be the world.

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Speaker 4: Look at the lancer, What a sast.

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Speaker 5: He's tat my.

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Speaker 3: Coasta, My coasta.

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Speaker 2: Leading the fuse of the ashes, the spirits that ever.

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Speaker 6: Looking down the house.

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Speaker 4: We're life from the Untold Radio Network. It's Untold Radio

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Am with Monster Quest producer host Doug Hicheck and co

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host Jeff Parrella JR. Untold Radio Am is going live.

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Speaker 1: Woll Now, this show is for entertainment purposes only. Yep,

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that's the ticket. Now Here are your Untold Radio Am posts.

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Doug high Check and Jeff Corella Junior.

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Speaker 7: What hello, Roger, Pattie, how y'all doing good?

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Speaker 3: Eight? By the way, you do not look like Jeff

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at all.

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Speaker 7: I can't sound like you'm either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not even a little bit.

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Speaker 7: I'll try.

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Speaker 3: Anyhow, Hello Antolians, and welcome to the Home of Unverified Crap.

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Oh no, I'm not testing you.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he look at it.

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Speaker 3: Good job, all right, good job, good job.

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Speaker 7: He said, I had four point eight seconds to get

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that up after you said that.

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Speaker 3: That's tonight. It's tonight. We have a little bit of

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a different show because Jeff is on vacation. He'll be

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back next Sunday. So Roger was kind enough to co

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host tonight with me, and then we've got another guest

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co host tonight, David Dominique. But our guests are none

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other than Marie Dumont and Ray Harwood.

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Speaker 7: So you want me to bring who do you want

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me to be?

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Speaker 3: You know, I know Roger. Roger said he was nervous,

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and I'm like, why are you nervous? You do this

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and squatch and all her every week. He just said

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he was Oh gosh, no, you're your bigger time. But anyhow,

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so Ray has a BA in archaeology and Marie is

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a very well known skunk ape researcher down in Florida,

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And so we're gonna kind of combine the two and

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go all sorts of crazy directions.

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Speaker 7: Sounds good.

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Speaker 3: The topic we might even get into some God knows

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what we're going to get into, especially when you bring

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David into the mix. You know, you know I have

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try to We'll try to keep us on track. We

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might be talking about the origins of the universe by

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the end of the night. But anyhow, but get ready

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to hear a chilling ride tonight. I definitely would be

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a strange little learning on the way. Me and Roger

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gonna learn right along with you, right.

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Speaker 7: Roger, Yes, sir, I'll try.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a good conversation. But but you know you

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don't want to dimmer lights, grab that comfy chair, kick

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the dog off off your chair? Does your dog steal

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your chair?

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Speaker 7: I have the door shut because you know how trigger

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is anytime he hears your voice, he's like he comes

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right to the room.

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Speaker 3: No I'm not talking here but at home, just during

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normal course. Yeah, yeah, your dog steals your chair. Yeah, absolutely,

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So what you're gonna want to do tonight is steal

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your dog's chair. Comfy, you get a cup of coffee,

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dem the lights and we'll get we'll get going here.

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So let's let's bring on David first. Heyd Well, we

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can't hear you David, you gotta turn your mic on

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or you have crazy lights on. You might want to

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dim your lights a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Holy moly.

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Speaker 3: So just to go, We'll just give David some privacy there, Roger.

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And then okay, let's introduce Marie Dumont. Hi, Marie. Hey,

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it's been a while. Wait a while.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Roger, you were cracking me up backstage.

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Speaker 7: It's not on purpose, I promise. I'm trying my bad.

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Speaker 3: Look look, look look at Roger. He's got he's he's

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literally clutching his chest. I know, Like, are you okay, Roger?

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Come on? We talk? Yeah, I mean you talk almost

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every day, don't we.

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Speaker 7: I know that's right. But it's a little different. Well,

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it's not you. It's not you, Doug. I got a

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I got big shoes to feel. Jeff does such a

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, take our heads off to Jeff. We'll

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be back next Sunday. You'll live through this, Roger, I

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promise you. And any Marie is like probably, I guess

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everybody used to be Dave Sheeley. Right now, we all

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think of Dave Sheeley and Marie Dumont when we think

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of Florida's councaps. Yeah, he's still I know he's he's

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the og of it all. You got to get him

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on our show. I haven't gotten him on Someday. We

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got to get you and Davon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that'd be awesome. But he has really crappy service.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, really know why.

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Speaker 6: Standing out in the parking lot somewhere to try and

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do a show. It turns out well, but I could

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ask him for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he can always drive somewhere too. Yeah, you

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know the Everglades. Everything's within a hundred miles.

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Speaker 7: I did a show for McDonald's parking lot one time,

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did you.

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Speaker 6: I think I did at a post office once off

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parking lot.

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Speaker 3: Well, the funniest thing I read happens. I had a

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guest on Marie and the gentleman drove off during he

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was in his car doing the podcast. No, he was

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in his house or a studio. Then he got in

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his car, drove off and kept doing the podcast.

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I thought. Okay, only only in twenty twenty six, Yeah,

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it's crazy anyhow. Okay, so then the person that's going

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to join is Ray Harwood and Ray is got a

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b a. In archaeology. He's brilliant on many many levels.

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And he's now clean shaven Ray. I have not met

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clean shaven Ray Harwood yet.

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Speaker 8: That's because this summertime.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, anyhow, but this is Ray Harwood.

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And Ray is working with Marie and they are working

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on they've already they're on their second book. Now, right,

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you didn't you guys do it.

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Speaker 9: But we've done a bunch of stuff together on we did.

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Speaker 8: We started with magazines, the Skuncate magazine. Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 3: Oh cool.

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Speaker 8: And she got me, you know, together with Dave Sheely

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and I got yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, meet him

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and do all this.

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Speaker 9: And then Jave Sheely had the video that he recorded

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Speaker 9: It was in the it was in the park there

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in the Everglades, the two thousand film. And then Marie's

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Marie and her group UH did a reconstruction of the

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h of that event and of that encounter, uh and

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a scientific exploration of the whole thing. And UH that

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was very interesting and I'm sure she'll want a deep

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dive on that. And then yeah, other than this Gate magazine,

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we did like I think we did like six of these,

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and then Dave Sheeley had it for sale for a

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while at the Skunky Headquarters, which I believe now is

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the world's most the world's most popular roads side attraction

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according to the World Records.

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Speaker 3: That's so cool.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's pretty neat.

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Speaker 9: And then uh, yeah, so and then we did uh

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the Skunk Ape and of where she was her and

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David Sheeley were the focus, being from the research community.

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to get something together where we did something that's Her

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or so, and then she heard vocalizations in the Everglades

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and whatnot and that got her interested in Sasquatch and

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now she's like huge in the community, and so I

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thought it would be interesting to do.

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Speaker 8: To do a book called.

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Speaker 9: Like Strange Encounters type of scenario and have all her

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encounters from all her paranormal research blending into her sasquatch

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research and have like, you know, her take on all

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these encounters and what we could do backgrounds and investigate

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it and then you know, and.

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Speaker 8: Do all those types of things.

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Speaker 9: So I thought that'd be really interesting and then maybe

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try to get that into some kind of documentary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. Take a breath, Ray, Yeah, you're making

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Speaker 6: You're making Roger nervous.

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Speaker 8: Come on, what did you get it all out there? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You did do it. One breath. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Well, you told him we might go off the rails.

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Speaker 9: I was talking to Dave before the show and we

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were talking about linguistics and stuff, and so I was

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just kind of given an example of the sasquatch last

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vocalization type morehead zerru sounds all right?

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Speaker 3: All right? Anyhow, Marie, So are you still like doing

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the same type of research down in Florida? Yeah, same

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same stuff, same old.

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Speaker 6: Just we're the same old, same Well you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean? Are you are you trying anything new? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Dave, you're on.

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Speaker 7: You're you're on, dude, can't you see don't you see us?

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Speaker 3: You're on? If you can see yourself.

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Speaker 6: You're on so that Jeff send you the pictures I

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Speaker 3: No, Jeff is gone, he's on vacation. He didn't send anything.

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Speaker 6: I sent him a whole photos I wanted you to

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Speaker 6: Oh there we go all the weavings, the weaving pictures

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Speaker 3: Sim Well, if you have like one or two emails,

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maybe maybe Roger can get them up. Maybe not. I'm

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Speaker 7: All right, it's a miracle that I've got what's on here? Yeah, yeah, Marina,

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she said, yeah, I know, it was a miracle.

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Speaker 9: I got said anything. I said anything. My computer was

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crashing out Skinwalk, Skinwalker Ranch mode everything, Yeah, wrong and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: That happens, that happens anyhow. So Sore, are you still

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researching with Mike Marine? Okay, So we had Mike on

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the other day, and I know he's got a little

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group he started with his family and stuff, which is

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kind of cool. So who who are you researching with?

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Just kind of give us an update of anything that's

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Speaker 6: So, you know, I have a a small team. Now,

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you know I have a team member, Bob, I have Ruby,

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Joe Brew, I have Darren Williams, and I have a

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Speaker 3: Okay, So.

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Speaker 6: I go out every weekend. You know, today I was

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in the green swamp, you know, with the mosquitoes and everything.

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single weekend, just about yeah, and I have been for

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almost seven years, so it's it's really interesting. But there

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we've found some really weird stuff about six months ago,

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and I really wanted you to see those.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, over three quarters of our audience

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go in there. I've been really wanting to go and

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so tim member Bob wanted to hang up an orange

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in the tree. Right. So I have never had good

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luck with citrus, you know, gifting with citrus here in Florida,

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and so he wanted to stick an orange up in

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the tree. I'm like okay. So he took pair of cord,

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he wrapped it like ten times, double knotted the thing.

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probably at least eight feet high. Right, okay, what's hanging down?

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So he just wanted to see what would happen, and

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so we went back a couple of weeks later, the

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orange with the pair of cord was taking off the ranch.

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I'm tied, and then the pair of cord was coiled

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up like a garden hose on the ground. And it's like, okay,

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it's a little odd. That's really odd because this thing

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is up like eight feet Yeah, it took a hiking

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stick for us to stick for him to stick it

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up there. So it's really odd that something took it down,

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untied it, and coiled it up on the ground like

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a garden hose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's obviously wasn't a wasn't a group of raccoons.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Don't you hate Okay, but here's the problem we're all facing.

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We all experienced things that basically couldn't be anything else.

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Rock throw correct, what you're just describing gifting. Yes, but

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yet we haven't seen it do it. So the scientists go, well,

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that's you know, it's b s. It's yes, doesn't even

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that evidence doesn't even exist.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you have five other things to tell you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and until you've experienced even one, yes, how do

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you you know? It's just crazy? So keep going. That

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first one was crazy.

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Speaker 6: Crazy thing number one. Crazy thing Number two was Bob

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experienced mind speak. Two things were said to him when

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he was out in the spot this area. One was

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he always carries a knife on at least one of

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these weapons kind of guys, you know. So something told

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him and he's never experienced this before, and he didn't

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tell me about it until a lot later on because

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he was like in my phone crazy. So it said

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to something said to him, why do you carry a knife?

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And so he was like what was that, you know?

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And then he answered in his head, to protect my self?

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And then like thirty seconds later, it said, put the

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knife in your pocket. Okay, so he did that. Nothing

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else happened, but that.

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Speaker 3: Did He describe this as like audio that he kind

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of heard inside his head. Yes, yes, as if it's

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like uh, like when you have headphones on.

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Speaker 6: Yes, mm hmm, yeah, he said he just he just

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heard this voice saying and it's like, yeah, like I said,

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he's all about weapons, so he's never gonna question it

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himself while he's carrying a knife, right, yeah, exactly, you

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know that's what he does. So then we found a hair.

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We found a ten and a half inch long hair

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that was not too far from the gifting area. From

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that were that orange bus. There was a dead tree

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that fell. It wasn't on the ground. I think it

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was like it was like three and a half feet

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off the ground, but there was a section of it

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that the bark was ripped off. It looks like something

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has been going over it, right, passing over it. So

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Bob decided to take a look at this bare spot.

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He found this hair that was underneath the bark and

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on the edge of the bark. He pulls this thing out, like, whoa,

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it's ten and a half inches long.

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Speaker 3: That's long? Yes, how high?

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Speaker 6: Help was it three and a half feet Whereas it

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looked like something was walking over the log. Now the

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thing is the dead tree. If it was a human,

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all you had to do was walk ten feet over

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to the left. Or right, and you would have been

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around the tree.

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Speaker 3: Can you kind of describe the did you look at it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's very thin, wispy.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I had it analyzed by a friend of ours

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in Oklahoma, Brian Terrell with red dirt cryptids. He looks

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at hairs, you know, that's his like niche thing that

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he's getting into. So he's a friend of ours and

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I sent it to him and he immediately looked at it. No, medulla,

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it's blotchy. It's reddish, oh red color, but noda, okay?

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Speaker 3: Is it tabored at the end.

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Speaker 6: I would imagine it was like broken. The end of

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the hair was broken. It was not cut like a

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human's hair, right, would have a straight edge on it, right,

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but this was jagged. It was just all jagged.

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Speaker 3: And well, let me put this out to everybody here

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that's in the in our group. One other animal that

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lives in the wild or domestic would have a hair

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like that.

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Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, not here in Florida.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we know this. We know it's not we

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know it's not alligator hair.

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Speaker 6: It's not alligator hair. It's not hair, it's not but

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it could very well be bigfoot skunk ape hair right

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back around the lower region, like if you're stepping over

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three and a half foot tall that tree, we couldn't

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step over it.

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Speaker 3: Well, just the just the length, Marie, is kind of important.

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And now Ray here owns horses. Ray could that possibly

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be part of a horse tail or maine at ten

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and a half inches if it's wispy and thin.

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Speaker 8: Well, horse horse hair is pretty gray.

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Speaker 9: But it does get pretty long, you know, on the

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on the main and on the tail. Yeah, but I

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wouldn't describe it as whisky whispy. It's pretty, it's pretty out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because when I go horseback riding, I'm often instructed

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don't use the rain, just you know, grab their you know,

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gently grab their hair on the back of their neck

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to steer them and so on. Correct, right, So you're right.

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Speaker 8: At this age, I'll do whatever it takes anyhow.

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Speaker 3: But I you know, as I remember, it's quite thick

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the hair, even on.

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Speaker 8: The main robust.

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Speaker 3: It's robust.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And Marie is describing a very wispy then yeah, dinner

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diameter yep. That sounds sounds like bigfoot hair.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And that sounds like the lower part of the leg

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has long hair. And part of the arm, correct the

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under earth, the forearm.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and like I said, if it was a human hair,

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we couldn't step on a log. But like I said,

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you could just walk ten feet around the lot, right,

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So what if human try to do that and then

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have their hair on the tree. No, it doesn't make

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any sense.

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Speaker 3: No, David would, David, you would, right, Dave's muted. He don't.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: You're muted.

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Speaker 8: To hit the mute button.

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Speaker 3: It's at the bottom of the the button. We're Dave's

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having trouble here, I know.

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Speaker 6: So then found weavings.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay.

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Speaker 6: So found at least thirteen weavings and trees where it

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was either made with long grass that was pulled all

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of the ground and hung up in the tree about

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five and a half six feet high, or ferns that

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were broken off the ground and stuck up in trees.

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Clusters of these things. Some of them are actually like

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tied together with pieces of the ferns. It's craziness. I've

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never seen anything like that. And the people I show

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they're like, I don't even know what this is.

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Speaker 7: Marie. Is that the picture you showed us? Yes? And yeah,

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doug what it reminded me of back in the seventies.

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My uncle he grew tobacco and before they come out

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with a new style when we would take the tobacco

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leaves off and you would tie them in a bundle.

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It's an old style. I haven't seen that then, and

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but you have to have thumbs to do that, So, yes,

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it was odd.

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Speaker 6: I wish I could show you the picture right of

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the pictures and it's it's incredible because it's definitely tied.

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Something tied it to these trees.

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Speaker 3: Did you examine that, rain?

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen that, but I do recall in the

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seventies a bigfoot encounter that they reported it was a

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Class A sighting, so you know, it was a visual sighting,

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and the Sasquatch apparently had a bundle, you know, like

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you know the Native Americans have medicine bundles. It was

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sort of a medicine bundle, but it was made out

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of leaves with some sort of I guess you call

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cordage made from another plant a plant fibrous cordage from

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another plant. And that was an encounter I remember someone

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telling me about in the seventies. Yeah, so and like

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I say that the Native American tradition of the medicine

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bundle goes back, you know, far into into oral history.

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Speaker 3: Very cool, very cool. I was gonna mention just before

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we go on, Dave, just click out of out of

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your your software and then reboot your computer and come

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back on. I guarantee your audio work great. We can't

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hear you, David, he's mine speaking. We can't hear you.

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Speaker 7: It did just take a while to get to us.

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Speaker 9: One comment I like to make on the mind speak thing.

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I was never like a fan of any of that

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sort of thing, but I started doing some heavy research

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into the linguistics uh Ron Moorehead, Scott and Nelson, you know,

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that genre of research. And when I started breaking down

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the all the the the sections of the of the

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video from Ron Moorehead and whatnot, and running him through

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all different AI programs and things like this. And I'm

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not the only one that's that's instigated that side of research,

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but I did do pretty deep dive in that, and

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some of the words came up as like athabascan type

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UH phonemes and things like that, and the and the

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uh and the timing and things of of the of

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the speak was like the Athabascan area, like northwest. Uh

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oh yeah, that is interesting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's like a medicine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see it really good.

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Speaker 8: And you know where you see that.

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Speaker 6: If you go to around the street.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if you go to an Indian pow wow and

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you see the white sage Bundy, they look a lot

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like that as well. Anyway, I started doing the linguistics

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and then I noticed that the the Sasquatch was speaking

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to Ron Moore hit. When it spoke to each other,

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it was real rapid like I was talking. And then

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when they talked to humans and went really slow, like

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when someone's to speak English to a Spanish speaker, they

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go real slow. They you know, it doesn't make them

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so you understand the words, but just the body language

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and stuff you pick up on. But in the Ron

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Warhead recordings, the Sasquatch when they're directing the verbalizations at

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the humans, they do that they slow, They start talking

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very slow and methodically. It's like one word sentences bam

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bam bam. So the basically what I came up with

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is Sasquatch is multi lingual and in hunter gather societies

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where you have where you have trading uh or and

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you meet other hunter gathered groups in rendezvous. You know,

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in the old days they had rendezvous where all the

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hunter gatherer types and trappers would get together at these

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rendezvous and everyone either spoke Indian sign or you were

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multi lingual or bilingual thing. And when you analyze the

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Sasquatch verbal verbal as and stuff in and sounds in

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the Sierra sounds, it's multi lingual, and it's almost like

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he's trying to talk to the people in the camp

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there and like testing it with different languages, like it

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it'll speak a little bit of Athabaskan, then it goes

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to some ancient language, then it comes back and there's

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a couple.

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Speaker 8: Of words in English, and then there's a couple.

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Speaker 9: Of times when they're not speaking, and it's almost like

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it's like are they trying to get use their telepathic skills?

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Because when you hunt, and you're hunting without advanced weaponry,

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you depend on each other in the group in a

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group hunt and so you can't speak, so you use

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either sign language like you know, there's a deer over there,

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you know, or whatever, or you have body language like

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you know whatever, you you know, like facial expressions and

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h telepath telepithic, you can exude telepathic type communication. When

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hunters do that for ten thousand years without without changing

472
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,799
there they don't go to farming, they don't go to

473
00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:24,400
the walmart. They're relying on hunting. And after years and

474
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,480
years and decades and millennia of hunting together in these groups,

475
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:36,279
they develop really close communications that don't necessarily involve.

476
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 8: Like traditional languages.

477
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,559
Speaker 9: Versus hunting of mammoth, because those sasquatch would have been

478
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,400
hunting mammoth, buying vaper tooth cats and things like that,

479
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,359
because they were around you know, in the palaeo, you know,

480
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,119
in the Plasta senior in the.

481
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,559
Speaker 8: Clovis era and stuff like that.

482
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,759
Speaker 9: So they were hunting big megafauna and then they they graduate,

483
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:03,799
they stayed the same while other humans went to hunting

484
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,240
smaller game like deer and moose and things like that

485
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:13,880
and bison. The megafauna hunters, like I think Sasquatch was,

486
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:16,079
has carried that ever since.

487
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 8: So you have millennia of hunting.

488
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:22,559
Speaker 9: In these groups without being able to speak, so I

489
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,440
think that something developed along those lines.

490
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: So you're one of the people that believe that they

491
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,920
can actually speak words and language, and or at least

492
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,519
it like English even for example.

493
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,799
Speaker 9: I'm not sure how quite deep it goes because I've

494
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:45,759
never studied teleopathy, but I have studied hunter gathered societies

495
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,440
a lot. And I notice, you know, if you go

496
00:31:48,839 --> 00:31:55,079
watch old videos, you know, anthropological ethnographic videos of the bushmen,

497
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680
like in Africa, they do some clicks here.

498
00:31:58,519 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 8: And there, you know, tongue and whatnot.

499
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 9: But usually when they're hunting, especially like an elephant or

500
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,759
something like that, there's no there's no verbal communication, but

501
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,599
they still communicate. A lot of that is body language,

502
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,400
sign language. But I think there's an element of mind communication,

503
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:18,799
but I don't know.

504
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all on verified crap, right, Marie sounded like language?

505
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:35,759
Speaker 6: Oh have I Yeah, Yes, I've heard hey. I've heard

506
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,319
that word being said at least three times in the swamps,

507
00:32:41,759 --> 00:32:46,880
which is really weird. I've had someone else also here

508
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:50,240
down around Mayaca, which is you.

509
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,359
Speaker 8: Know where the photo was taken.

510
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 6: Ye, and so somebody heard hey there. I've heard hey

511
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:05,160
three times in the green Swamp. Also heard in the

512
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,720
ever Blades. I heard the gibberish and it wasn't bart Ow's.

513
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
It was off in the distance on a trail that

514
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:14,680
I was, and it sounded like there were just two

515
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:20,119
people talking. It was way off. Yeah, it sounded like mandarin, right,

516
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,119
what they say.

517
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:25,319
Speaker 8: So Samurai chattered gray?

518
00:33:25,559 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: Is that you that's got your notifications on? It keeps

519
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,359
dinging and dinging and ding and can you turn off notifications?

520
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,960
I don't know. Somebody's getting a lot of messages.

521
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 8: I don't think it's me.

522
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:37,799
Speaker 6: I don't think it's me.

523
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 8: I don't have anybody you, Roger, it's not me.

524
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: I know it's not you.

525
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:49,279
Speaker 7: I've never heard anything other than one was mad one

526
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,319
time and pasting in a circle, a little mumbling, but

527
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000
my son freaked out. We've had several things happened to us.

528
00:33:56,039 --> 00:33:58,359
Just one piece of property and he was about to

529
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,160
take a dough and some started beating, either beating the

530
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,759
ground or a chest and he could feel it. He

531
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,000
was laying on the ground, and he said a thought

532
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,599
came into his head all of a sudden, said I'm here,

533
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,840
don't shoot. And that scared him worse than anything we'd experienced,

534
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,519
because he's like, it wasn't me.

535
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,679
Speaker 6: But you know, yeah, same thing, yep.

536
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, So there was auditory.

537
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: Or or he said it was in his head, and

538
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,079
that scared him because he's a He's not like me.

539
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,519
I have an open mind to a lot of things

540
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,079
and try to test it or whatever learn about it.

541
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,159
He's never experienced anything too weird, like paranormal. I didn't

542
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,039
tell Marie, but I grew up in the house and

543
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,239
so I've heard things and seen things that he hasn't,

544
00:34:48,559 --> 00:34:51,159
and that I think it scared him because it wasn't

545
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,400
somebody speaking and he heard it with his ears. It

546
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,360
was in his head, and it was the fact that

547
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,760
it said I'm here, don't shoot.

548
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,599
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's really interesting.

549
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I have never experienced anything like that.

550
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,840
But of certainly, you know, we have the talking at

551
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,719
snow Grove which sounded I don't know if it's English,

552
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,760
but it sounds like some kind of language. And then

553
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,559
of course you have all of the anecdotal evidence from

554
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:25,159
so many people, you know, including Ron moorehead of course,

555
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:30,400
of course, and he recorded it all. It's so strange.

556
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,079
And then the mind speak people will say, well, it

557
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:36,559
spoke perfect English, ye, And it's such a weird, you know.

558
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,840
And I don't want to poo poo anybody that claims

559
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,440
that because there was one time I heard what I

560
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,360
swear was mine speak many many years ago, when I

561
00:35:47,559 --> 00:35:51,239
was driving in the city and I heard a man's

562
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,119
voice in the back seat when I thought it had

563
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:55,440
to be in the back seat because it wasn't in

564
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,719
the front seat, but it sounded like it went right

565
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,480
into my head and bullets, and I was I was

566
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,760
thinking to myself about how well my TV career was

567
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,400
working out. This is many years back in the eighties,

568
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,719
and I heard a voice say, somebody, you'll understand that

569
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,559
was it, and I I did the bull you know,

570
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:20,880
the bullet, turned around and looked at the behind me,

571
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,519
thinking there was some dude in my back seat. And

572
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:26,519
it was right when I was going under a little

573
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:29,760
dark bridge and in through a kind of a tunnel,

574
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,559
and it was just the whole thing was creepy. But

575
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,280
I've never had that happen since. But I will never

576
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,960
poo poo anybody that's had that happen because of that,

577
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:43,559
because I swear whatever happened to me was real. You know,

578
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,639
I'm standing by it. So anyhow, have you ever experienced

579
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,159
mind speaking of any type anywhere?

580
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,199
Speaker 8: Ray Let's see, I wasn't at Woodstock.

581
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: But I'm not talking about while you're while you're smoking,

582
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,400
gone during I'm talking about regular life.

583
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:11,159
Speaker 8: Okay, I mean I don't think I think of I

584
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:14,159
don't know I was. I think I think I heard

585
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:15,840
a ghost once actually.

586
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: But okay, well what did you hear? Go ahead and

587
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,280
tell it.

588
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 9: Out here in Idaho, there's a big it's called the

589
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Ohio Machtick Company, and it's a giant paper in it

590
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:28,960
and it's.

591
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:29,599
Speaker 8: A paper company.

592
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 9: So it's timber, yeah, and it's massive. It goes from

593
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,599
north Idaho and through like Canada and along the border there.

594
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:40,679
And uh, if you go to this certain store, you

595
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,280
can get a little permit and they'll let you go

596
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
and do pretty much whatever you want on the timber

597
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,760
property there.

598
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

599
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,119
Speaker 8: So I was.

600
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 9: I was deer hunting there and I was with another

601
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,760
guy hunting and he he did sign language.

602
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 8: He was he was this death guy. And the day

603
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,559
before we got chased by this big moose.

604
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 6: Right.

605
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,199
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I heard something and I thought it was

606
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,320
him trying to warm me about this. So it was

607
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,320
a river bed with with a stream coming through it.

608
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:18,000
So I I had a bow and an arrows and

609
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:23,840
I was coming around this this curve and the sound

610
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,199
of the wind and the and the water trickling in

611
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,880
the river. When they combined, it sounded just like the

612
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Native Americans drum at a pow wow. And it got

613
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,760
real loud, and and then instead of two sounds, it

614
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:48,000
was one. And so I thought, of someone's over there

615
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:51,519
with a tape recorder, you know, playing like pow wow music,

616
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:54,599
you know. So I kept going around the round and

617
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:56,920
round the thing, and there was there was nobody there,

618
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,280
but I mean, it was really loud, and it wasn't like,

619
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:02,559
what is that sound?

620
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 8: So I think it was like a ghost.

621
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,039
Speaker 3: Now, things like that tend to open our minds.

622
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 7: I have a quick story just that goes along with

623
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,800
what we're talking about. So I have a friend's death.

624
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,800
He's he's been death since birth. He's a little older

625
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,079
than me, went to school with us, never heard a

626
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,000
human voice in his life. We did sign language, we

627
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,519
wrote on a pad and all. He was over here

628
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:31,840
helping me with my yard, and he was telling me

629
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,599
about going to an old house they were going to sell.

630
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,119
So he was doing the same thing there and he

631
00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:40,599
walked in and that he said it was dark. He said,

632
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,360
there's no lights, And all of a sudden he started

633
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,559
doing this and I'm like, what is that? And he

634
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,679
put voices and I'm like, what did they say? And

635
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:53,000
he said get out and he said it was multiple

636
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,960
different voices, and I'm like, my mind is blown. I'm like,

637
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,599
hold up, Mike, how did you know there were voices?

638
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,280
He's like they were talking looking to me. And I'm like,

639
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,079
so somebody has never heard a human voice in their life? Yeah,

640
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,280
as mine speak, whether it's ghost or whatever. That floored me.

641
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,239
I just I still don't know what to think about it.

642
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 8: When a deaf person dreams, can they hear in their dreams?

643
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: I wonder?

644
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,199
Speaker 7: Right right, I don't know.

645
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 6: That's really especially since he has never heard.

646
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:25,199
Speaker 3: A voice before exactly.

647
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,679
Speaker 8: I'm not saying he was asleep then.

648
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 7: I was just yeah, yeah, I understand. I don't understand

649
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,800
totally what you're saying that. That was just no, that

650
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:40,440
was a good point that blew my mind too. Thank you, Ray,

651
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,800
We love you, Ray you Okay, So.

652
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,039
Speaker 3: All right, so let's just quickly talk about this new

653
00:40:50,079 --> 00:40:52,519
idea that you guys are thinking on putting in a book.

654
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,440
What are you planning on covering?

655
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 9: All right, Ray, go ahead, Well I was thinking sort

656
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,119
of like just what we're talking about now because of

657
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:05,920
her background in paranormal and then her you know, her

658
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,320
life experiences in that realm in that genre of research,

659
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:16,679
and then and then after each like she could tell

660
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,039
her story of you know, what she experienced when when

661
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,280
she was ghost hunting and whatnot, and then we could

662
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,159
do research on that, backing it up like background of it, okay,

663
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,440
and then do some research like if it was a

664
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,719
haunted house, we could do research on who lived in

665
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,760
the house and and you.

666
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,519
Speaker 8: Know, do do that sort of research.

667
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:36,679
Speaker 3: So it's a departure from the skunky.

668
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, we'll get to but actually getting to the skunky

669
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,280
because it would be her encounter, her strange encounters from

670
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:49,079
paranormal to her strange encounters with you know.

671
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 8: The skunk skunky.

672
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 9: Research and then just kind of just blend it all together,

673
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:57,840
but like do a deep dive on each one.

674
00:41:58,199 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 8: So I thought that would be kind of interesting.

675
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it would be. Do you do you think

676
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:13,599
there's one thing Marie that's like absolutely without a doubt

677
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,440
it is something they do or you've experienced that you

678
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,559
absolutely know what they are. And then what is the

679
00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:24,760
one thing too, the second part that puts doubt in

680
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,960
your mind that these things are flesh and blood.

681
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 6: I got too many questions.

682
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm so, what's the one, Yeah, what's the one like

683
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,920
piece of evidence that you've seen that you've personally experienced.

684
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,559
Speaker 6: Well, my car, my experience in my car with the bigfoot,

685
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,639
Well tell us, yeah, that was in Jacksonville two years ago,

686
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,039
Jacksonville floor Jennings State Forests, and that's where I found

687
00:42:54,519 --> 00:43:00,039
a quarter mile trackway of footprints and they had a

688
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:05,280
fifty four inch step length between each and they were

689
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,719
sixteen inches long. So after I found that trackway, it

690
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,039
was late at night, we couldn't see too much more.

691
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,280
I found three prints, and we knew there were more,

692
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,400
but we couldn't see, you know, it's just dark. So

693
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,119
we go back to the campground and I'm in my

694
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:30,440
car car camping, and Ruby's and her car car camping.

695
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:32,920
But we're like our cars are like fifteen feet away

696
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,599
from each other. And so probably around three four in

697
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:38,800
the morning, I had shades up in my car. I'm

698
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,519
trying to sleep. I cannot sleep. I'm in the hatchback

699
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,360
of my snuber rou right, So I'm trying to sleep,

700
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,639
can't do it, And all of a sudden, I start

701
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:54,599
hearing boom boom boom alongside my car, walking back and forth,

702
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,599
back and forth, like six times alongside the driver's side

703
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:03,719
of the car, and I'm like, what is that? I

704
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,639
already knew what it was, but I'm trying to debunk.

705
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,480
That's what I do, this field researcher. I'm always trying

706
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:15,360
to debunk. Could it possibly be Ruby? Okay, Well, I

707
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,480
didn't hear her get out of the car. She would

708
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,159
not be walking that loud, and she would not be

709
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,679
walking that close to my car. So I'm thinking all

710
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:31,119
this stuff and I'm just listening to this thing walking

711
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,159
alongside my car. My car was unlocked, it could have

712
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,280
opened the door if it wanted to. And at the

713
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,800
very end, it pushed the hatchback where I was at,

714
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,199
and I was like, whoa, holy crap. Interesting. The thing is,

715
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,039
I did not hear it walk away. It made a

716
00:44:51,079 --> 00:44:56,480
lot of noise making sure, I don't know, like making

717
00:44:56,519 --> 00:45:00,159
sure I knew it was there. I don't know. It

718
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,000
was just boom boom boom, back and forth, but I

719
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:07,400
did not hear it walk away, And.

720
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: So that's extremely scary.

721
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, didn't didn't, Bill Hewittt that was in your group?

722
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,440
Fine fingerprints on his vehicle.

723
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 6: Yes, Simon, Yes, that was down in Lake Okeechobee, South Florida,

724
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,760
where the skunk apes are. He's had multiple experiences with

725
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:35,039
skunkye there. We found fingerprints on Bob's windows of his

726
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:39,679
van in O'kalla National Forest and he woke up. He

727
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,199
was sleeping in his van. He woke up. He looks

728
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,840
up and he has a light hanging from inside his

729
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,000
van and it's swinging back and forth, and he's like,

730
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:53,719
that's odd. Why is mine? Why is that light moving? Well,

731
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,920
something will come up. Something probably pushed his van or something.

732
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,639
And there were fingerprints, like some thing was looking in

733
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,599
this windows. Their tenant all his windows. My car was

734
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,440
next to his, not a single finger fingerprint. My door

735
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:15,719
wasn't locked. If it was a human snooping around, they

736
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,039
could have gotten in my car, stole by stuff.

737
00:46:18,119 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

738
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,199
Speaker 6: Didn't it messed with his van because he was in it.

739
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:27,719
It wasn't me, It wasn't Ray, so it had to be.

740
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:31,559
Speaker 7: I've got a question I want to throw out to

741
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,960
y'all all of it. So I got laughed at because

742
00:46:36,039 --> 00:46:40,360
I asked this question one time. But out in nature,

743
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,960
how many things possibly could bigfoot? See its reflection in

744
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:49,480
and we have a ton of car visits and van visits. Yes,

745
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:54,000
and sometimes I think it's probably what you're saying, they're

746
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:56,880
coming and observing seeing what you're doing. But if you

747
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,599
think about it too, some of these cars and vehicles

748
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:03,440
are so shiny. Yes, maybe they see theirselves for the

749
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:03,960
first time.

750
00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 6: I don't know that very well, because you're talking tinted windows, right,

751
00:47:08,519 --> 00:47:12,280
that is going to be to be reflective.

752
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: Like a mirror, especially in the evening.

753
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 9: Right, Has anyone as a research project set a mirror

754
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,719
like out in a in a high density area of

755
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,920
encounters and then maybe.

756
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:27,679
Speaker 8: Set like some some.

757
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 9: Some you know, foot traps or or game cameras just

758
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,599
to see if it would come up to the mirror.

759
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,079
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think it might handle the mirror.

760
00:47:36,159 --> 00:47:38,719
But no, I don't know of anybody that's actually done

761
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,880
like a full length mirror out in the woods.

762
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 6: I have I've heard of some people who have done that.

763
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:48,000
They put one of those full length mirrors out there.

764
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,920
What happened to a tree? The only thing I know

765
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,719
of was like a bear came along and you know,

766
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,519
freaked out because it's a reflection in the mirror.

767
00:48:00,039 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 3: Stuff.

768
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,679
Speaker 6: But as far as bigfoot stuff, not that I know of,

769
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,239
you know, but it's possible, right, it's a good experiment

770
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,639
to do.

771
00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 7: Yeap, my wheels are turning a doug if you use

772
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,480
multiple multiple mirrors. Could you have a camera?

773
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of mirrors, so we were. I did my

774
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,119
tech breakdown last week on me like using a forty

775
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:31,000
five degree mirror and then having your camera aim at

776
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:34,320
the forty five degrees and then it collects light from

777
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,159
me there like the outside of the house or whatever.

778
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,920
So it's basically a periscope or reverse periscope. And I

779
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,760
did the tech breakdown, got done in mic goes He goes, well,

780
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,400
I had a dream once where a bigfoot came to

781
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,760
me and said, if you want us, if you want

782
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,039
to see us, use a mirror. Interesting, and I thought, well,

783
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:59,239
and he swore on it's like his kid's life that

784
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,760
he had that dream. And I'm like, well, it's kind

785
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,599
of a coincidence. And I was talking about that, and

786
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:08,239
then you brought up your dream. And so we actually

787
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,599
have a live camera right now that I can get

788
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:16,280
on my cell phone that's using a mirror, and the

789
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,280
camera's aimed at a mirror. It's actually outside but it's

790
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,360
the camera's not aimed at the ground or anywhere. It's

791
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:23,280
aimed at a mirror.

792
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,159
Speaker 6: How long have you had out there?

793
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 3: Two days? Two days? Now it'll be out hopefully, you know,

794
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:36,039
the whole summer. What size mirror, I don't know exactly.

795
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,000
I told them to get a twelve by twelve and

796
00:49:38,039 --> 00:49:42,079
maybe cut it in half, so twelve by six just

797
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:45,320
big enough to cover the camera's you know, field of

798
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,440
view doesn't matter. But you can get a twelve x

799
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:51,480
twelve mirror that the hardware store used to They used

800
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:54,199
to be about a buck. You know, remember in the

801
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,000
old days, people would put mirror tiles up all over

802
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:02,519
the wall, like in their base mounter, under the behind

803
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,519
their bar. Well they still sell those, there's not much

804
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:09,599
of a market form anymore, and they're they're kind of

805
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:12,880
giving them away. So yeah, it wouldn't hurt to have one.

806
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,039
You know, you can wrap the edges with tape, you know,

807
00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:19,400
cut yourself and you.

808
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,639
Speaker 7: Know we're gonna talk dug into extra car and putting

809
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:24,679
cameras inside of it.

810
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many things that could be done

811
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,639
that have not been tried, or that have only been

812
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:36,000
tried once. That's meaningless. You need to do it for

813
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:39,480
a long time. Multi you can never like give up

814
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:43,519
on a new idea. If the idea seems rock hard,

815
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:46,280
just keep trying it, because you.

816
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,119
Speaker 7: Know, one of the most dangerous things for animal if

817
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:53,360
somebody's hunting them has used their curiosity against them. So

818
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:57,039
you know, we're gathering all this information and things have happened.

819
00:50:57,519 --> 00:51:00,800
I love having conversations like this because be other people

820
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,719
thinking about it, but I just haven't. I've never thought

821
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:04,800
about it.

822
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,039
Speaker 3: So oh, but it's a mirror mirror. Well it's really

823
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:11,679
cool too. Is now you can get mounts and Amazon

824
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,840
you can get wise cameras and they'll notify you with

825
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,400
AI of any activity and you could mount one. Like

826
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,639
if you're live in a cabin or you have a

827
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:25,960
summer home and you're having bigfoot activity occasionally or constantly

828
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,639
and you don't know what it is, put a camera

829
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,239
in the on the window, but use a mirror and

830
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:38,000
a forty five undercut, so it's getting the light from

831
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,639
the outside's hitting the mirror and then into the camera.

832
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,960
So you know, then you can't use that argument that, oh,

833
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,360
they're afraid of the lens, right, because they're not going

834
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,079
to see the lens.

835
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 9: Well, also, we were talking about possibly a sausquatch being

836
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,719
multi lingual.

837
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 8: I was doing research on that.

838
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 3: Okay, stop for a second. How do we go from

839
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,079
mirrors the multi Well, I just wanted I love you,

840
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,639
I love you.

841
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,079
Speaker 9: No cameras and you're talking about mirrors. There is a

842
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:14,880
chance you could understand what you're talking about. I was

843
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,440
reading about dogs and some dogs can they know up

844
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,480
to like over one thousand English words. So if a

845
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:29,400
dog understands a thousand words, how much more would like, yeah,

846
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,840
you know, a sasquatch. No, So I mean it is possible,

847
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,559
like you're talking about, and we're gonna go put up

848
00:52:35,559 --> 00:52:36,480
these mirrors and these things.

849
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:38,679
Speaker 8: It can you could hear you and maybe understand what

850
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,760
you're doing. Just a thought.

851
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:44,519
Speaker 3: Good. Well, you know, my biggest weird thing that ever

852
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:46,559
happened to me that just kind of made you go

853
00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:49,400
is we took these little tiny cameras and we were

854
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,800
in the deep wilderness of a snow and we hit

855
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,719
them and put them all low. And we'd spent the

856
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,239
day camouflaging each little tiny camera with moss and you know,

857
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,440
using hot glue, and we decorated them and then hit

858
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,760
them along. I mean, nobody could. We couldn't find them again.

859
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,400
And so then in the middle of the you know,

860
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,639
it's getting towards their their witching hour, something goes and

861
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,880
throws a rock at one I was just looking at

862
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,039
the footage again yesterday throws a rock, and a camera

863
00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:24,840
vibrates and throws a rock in another one, and another

864
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,440
one and another one, and it knew it literally was saying, fu,

865
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,760
I know where all of those cameras are. You're not

866
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,639
fooling us. And then it spoke into one of the

867
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:41,760
cameras and it had to be really close, and it

868
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,079
was loud, and it was clear we all heard it live,

869
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,119
and it said like, well, like, you know if you've

870
00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:50,079
heard it, haven't you Marie?

871
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: I'm not sure, Ray, have you heard this?

872
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 3: I have it right here. I can play it and

873
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,079
it sounds it's short, it's not long, but it's definitely words.

874
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,440
Hold on here, I'll grab it and i'll play it. Roger,

875
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,119
you've heard it.

876
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,679
Speaker 7: I don't know if I have.

877
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:08,159
Speaker 3: Oh cut it out?

878
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 7: Oh yes, I have. I forgot.

879
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,519
Speaker 3: How old are you? Roger?

880
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 7: Yeah?

881
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: I forgot.

882
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,159
Speaker 7: I was supposed to agree with everything.

883
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.

884
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 6: Well Number one here we go with that's.

885
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 10: Right, let me put my volume up. All right, we're

886
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:38,599
laughing now, folks. So I'm just you know, playing it.

887
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:39,119
Speaker 3: And then.

888
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 8: Sounds like he wants chocolate.

889
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and everybody has a new thing. Some people

890
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,079
say it sounds like like Ivette hears it and she

891
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:54,199
thinks it's saying, I want to saucewitch you. And then

892
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,159
I hear it. I hear I want to talk with you,

893
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,039
and then other people hear it and they hear like

894
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:02,840
Ray said about chocolate.

895
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 7: I heard. I think flat Rockland put it in my

896
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:11,480
mind first. And then what I saw him fishing.

897
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,599
Speaker 3: Oh god, are you serious? No, that isn't okay. Let

898
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:15,599
me do it one more time.

899
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,599
Speaker 7: I saw something, Yeah, I saw something.

900
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 3: I saw Yeah, that's when. And I don't hear that

901
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:27,000
at all.

902
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 8: I'm still on the chocolate thing.

903
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,119
Speaker 3: So you get this this audio Pierdoilia and it's and

904
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:38,480
it's confusing. I'm sure you've all seen the experiment where

905
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,159
it's green needle and then that other saying and whatever

906
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:45,519
you're reading is what you hear, and it's kind of

907
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,880
it's kind of a screw up, but anyhow, but you

908
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,840
can imagine it's alterning white in that cabin are you know,

909
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,480
World's and they're listening to this stuff live and then

910
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:59,119
we hear that and it's like whoa, So.

911
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,159
Speaker 6: You didn't hear You're just.

912
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:07,639
Speaker 3: You're alive live. We were monitoring, we were monitoring all

913
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:12,119
the cameras live because we brought up Starlink Morgan.

914
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 9: Well, you guys might know more about this. What I

915
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,239
know you do about the ghost boxes?

916
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tested, we had one of those. They had

917
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:22,679
wanted to do anything the ghost box.

918
00:56:23,639 --> 00:56:25,639
Speaker 6: Yeah. I've had some vps out there.

919
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's an e VP because of

920
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:32,440
the rocks that were just thrown at the camera. Yeah.

921
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I've heard my name out in the swamp before.

922
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,119
Speaker 7: I've heard something my name that's not good.

923
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 3: It's like like it mimicked, like mimicked you were Roger.

924
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,079
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I'm just I'm up here in the apple.

925
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:50,519
That's not good up here.

926
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

927
00:56:53,519 --> 00:56:57,559
Speaker 7: But it is interesting though. Uh, we know they watches

928
00:56:57,679 --> 00:57:00,519
that they you know, they're around. We don't the round,

929
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:03,400
so they may hear us say things. You know, and

930
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,639
if you go in the area enough, it may learn

931
00:57:06,679 --> 00:57:08,480
your name, or it may know your name before you

932
00:57:08,519 --> 00:57:10,960
get in there. I don't know, I got pelted.

933
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 9: But you know those those type of mushrooms that grow

934
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,079
kind of like a little it looks like a little

935
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:18,519
shelf that grows on the side.

936
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 6: Of the tree, like turkey tailor.

937
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,239
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I got pelted by one of those ones.

938
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,960
I mean, really really heavy duty hit me.

939
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,679
Speaker 8: Right in the neck.

940
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:29,599
Speaker 7: Wow.

941
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:30,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was on it.

942
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,119
Speaker 9: I was going down the like the side of a mountain,

943
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:39,119
like you know, horizontally on a trail, and and just

944
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,360
out of nowhere am and it was a big heavy one.

945
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:45,039
You know, you think they look like styrofoam, but they're

946
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:47,960
they're pretty heavy. And I got pelted right here. So

947
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:52,079
I tried to figure out where it came from because

948
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:54,400
I was the only one in this valley. But it

949
00:57:54,519 --> 00:57:57,440
is a valley that I've heard tree knocks when I

950
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,519
first entered it before.

951
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 8: But I, I mean, it hurt.

952
00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:04,599
Speaker 9: So I ran back up, well, didn't really run, but

953
00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:08,159
I mosied back up this hill and uh, I didn't

954
00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:13,199
find any any evidence of anything, but it definitely.

955
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 8: Was was heaved. I mean it was. It came in

956
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,960
on an angle. It wasn't down.

957
00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:21,519
Speaker 3: Well. In that same trip, all of the guys except

958
00:58:21,599 --> 00:58:23,679
me and Joe because we had we had to leave

959
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:27,000
one day early. We had to fly out early. They

960
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,840
all they got pilted with punny cones and they were

961
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,480
coming from you know, quite a distance horizontally, so they

962
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,960
were being thrown. Yeah, these things are weird. And then

963
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:43,159
that same trip, Oh my god. So we we went

964
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,719
and the pilot goes, would you mind if we flew

965
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:49,119
a hundred miles to east and picked up another two?

966
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:52,920
Got two guys that want to leave early. Pilot goes,

967
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,239
would you mind if Miles David you gotta get take

968
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:04,199
David offer. Yeah, he's got a lot of tech issues. David,

969
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:05,960
you gotta work out your tech issues.

970
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 7: So that was the trip that Bud was there. Maybe

971
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,199
he said I saw Bud fishing.

972
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:10,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be.

973
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 8: But anyhow, so we listen to the story.

974
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the show has gone so okay. All right,

975
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,559
So the pilot picked me and Jo up a daily

976
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:27,960
and then said, would you mind if we fly one

977
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,239
hundred miles out of the way. We got to go

978
00:59:30,239 --> 00:59:32,599
pick up two guys that want to come out early.

979
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:36,280
So we went and picked them up and the floatplane landed.

980
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,000
The floatplane they climbed in and the first thing one

981
00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:41,519
of the guys said to me, he just walks in

982
00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:44,840
and he goes, what the heck slams into the side

983
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,639
of a cabin every night, And I go, uh, sit,

984
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,719
I'll tell you because we had just experienced that a

985
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,320
hundred you know, one hundred and some miles away at Snell,

986
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:01,440
and so that's you know, it's not that it's not

987
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:06,039
that uncommon. Well these things are you know, people think

988
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:10,639
they're really uncommon. They're not. And do you find I

989
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,119
don't know how much actual research you do, Ray, but Marie,

990
01:00:14,159 --> 01:00:17,760
when you go different like different spots, do you often

991
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,880
have activity? And do you ever wonder like, why did

992
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,920
I have activity here? And then I went twenty miles

993
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,079
over here and I had activity again? Did you ever

994
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:27,360
ask yourself? Why?

995
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:28,199
Speaker 10: No?

996
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 6: I don't always have activity? No? Okay, good, you know,

997
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:37,679
I mean, you know, I don't have bigfoot on the brain, right. So,

998
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,000
but I'll go to places that I'm attracted to for

999
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:45,840
some reason I pulled towards it. You know, I'll go

1000
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:49,679
out there and I'll find out why. I'll usually find

1001
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,719
some cool structures or something, and it's like, Okay, that's

1002
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:57,920
why I was feeling the need for that. But I

1003
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,880
don't always find, you know, stuff, there's not always activity.

1004
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,519
It's it's difficult here in Florida. You know, we've got

1005
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,639
it's hot. It's hot and buggy, so you don't want

1006
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:14,880
to be out that much that long. But it's it's

1007
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:18,679
it's just very difficult. So no, you don't. I don't

1008
01:01:18,719 --> 01:01:20,559
always have activity.

1009
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: When we go out, right.

1010
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,639
Speaker 6: We filmed a few years ago, like you said, some

1011
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,239
pine cones being thrown horizontally. This was a stick. At

1012
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,320
first we thought it was a bone. We didn't even

1013
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,159
know something got thrown at us until we saw the

1014
01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:41,079
footage and you see something flying right across the screen

1015
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:46,880
looked like a bone or a stick. And so I

1016
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,920
went back a week later trying to find what it was,

1017
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:54,039
and I found this little stick and it's perfect. It

1018
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:57,400
makes the exact same noise because it actually flew across

1019
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,320
the camera. It hit a backpack and fill on the ground,

1020
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,719
so you could hear it thump, thump, And I experimenting

1021
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,039
with the little stick I found I did the exact

1022
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:11,480
same thing and it made the exact same noise. So

1023
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:14,800
I know that's what But how it's only like what

1024
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:18,360
four inches? How close do you have to be to

1025
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,840
throw a four inch stick.

1026
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little weird.

1027
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:29,599
Speaker 6: Like we had we had thermals. Nothing was picked up. No,

1028
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:31,679
But the only.

1029
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,199
Speaker 9: Thing I'd say on that is if you see like

1030
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:39,079
you've seen like martial artists throw ninja stars and something

1031
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:44,920
like that. So there's different if you've been hunting, like

1032
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,719
for generations of a species, like thousands of generations, you

1033
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:55,559
come up with different methodologies of putting out projectiles and whatnot.

1034
01:02:55,639 --> 01:02:59,719
Just you know, I've seen people I saw Native American

1035
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:03,039
girl once throw a little pebble and kill a quail

1036
01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:06,440
at ten feet, you know, and I would never be

1037
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,480
able to do that, So I mean it could be just.

1038
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:13,599
Speaker 8: A long time of repetitive.

1039
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 9: And and you know this has passed down through generation

1040
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:23,840
and generation. I've seen you know, people hunting monkeys in

1041
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,880
South America with a blowgun that like the distance is

1042
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,760
pretty far and it's just a little stick. So it

1043
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,159
could be just the methodology they're using.

1044
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a thought.

1045
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,679
Speaker 6: Anything on the cameras. Yeah, yes, we were all we

1046
01:03:39,679 --> 01:03:43,000
were sitting in we were all facing a different direction,

1047
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:48,000
and every single one of us had something night vision thermal, so.

1048
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 8: You would even see and if it was up in

1049
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,639
the tree. Yeah, yeah, yeah far away.

1050
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,079
Speaker 6: That then, no, it had to be pretty close, but

1051
01:03:55,199 --> 01:03:57,719
yet it flew across the camera.

1052
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,199
Speaker 3: So well, I'm pretty sure we can all agree weird

1053
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:04,679
things happen when you're doing big red researches. Just don't

1054
01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:08,280
know why. I can't tell you why. I'm not going

1055
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,719
to come to any conclusion, but I do know it does.

1056
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,320
Weird things do happen. Yes, you know, we were at

1057
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,519
the cabin and I think it was last time that

1058
01:04:17,639 --> 01:04:21,920
I was there with ChRI Chris Ryan Hart and and

1059
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:29,280
Bud hal Fines and Adam Colt and Joe. They saw

1060
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:32,800
a little guy me. I had my back to the

1061
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,119
window and they're like they're jaws drop and they go,

1062
01:04:36,639 --> 01:04:40,239
you don't even want to know what just happened to

1063
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,400
behind your back? And I'm like, now, what happened? They go,

1064
01:04:43,519 --> 01:04:47,360
there were two red orbs that flew right by the window.

1065
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,639
And you know there are no red lights up in

1066
01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:52,440
the deep forest, you know what I mean?

1067
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 7: So God, that seems to be a common color in

1068
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,960
the weirdness that we've we've seen. Yeah, is the red

1069
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,280
one or the red ones? I didn't think i'd be

1070
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,800
talking about this stuff y'all, you know, one thirty years ago. Well,

1071
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,760
because some of it sounds weird, but when you get

1072
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,639
out there, like Marie, you know, you get out there, Doug,

1073
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,719
y'all been out there and you're looking for one thing

1074
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,000
and then these orbs show up and they're dashing around.

1075
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,880
You're like, what and what is going on?

1076
01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1077
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 6: I've had two ORB experiences down south around like mm

1078
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:34,239
hmm two did.

1079
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:39,519
Speaker 8: Are they always around bodies of water? No?

1080
01:05:40,519 --> 01:05:45,239
Speaker 6: No, not necessarily. The second one was in a swampy area,

1081
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,760
but the first one was not. It's not at all.

1082
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 3: So they seem to be within so many feet of

1083
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:56,239
water or swamp or a creek. It doesn't have to

1084
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:57,519
a lot of the time it could be a body

1085
01:05:57,519 --> 01:05:59,719
of water you're not even aware of a little tiny

1086
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:04,960
water for a white creek or a spring. But generally, yeah,

1087
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:08,800
they are near you know, they're the time they're near

1088
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,480
water within five hundred yards.

1089
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,519
Speaker 8: You're talking about orbs or sauce squad no bigfoots. Bigfoots okay,

1090
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:15,320
And as.

1091
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 3: Far as orbs go, yeah, they're often seen around water too.

1092
01:06:21,679 --> 01:06:23,239
I don't know.

1093
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 9: The question you've put it is like how often do

1094
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,679
I have like experiences?

1095
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 8: Or whatever or see something. It's really rare actually for me.

1096
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the population densities, Uh to my west

1097
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,719
in Washington, in Washington State, Uh, they have a pretty

1098
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:41,679
good dense population I think, you know, up along the coast.

1099
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,440
So anyway, So but where I'm at in North Idaho,

1100
01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:50,679
in and into Montanas where I usually am, I think

1101
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:55,599
it's a it's a I think it's more sparse, but

1102
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:58,280
you still see see stuff usually in the same type

1103
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:58,840
of areas.

1104
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 6: Uh.

1105
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to be a geographic problem.

1106
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:08,079
Speaker 9: Yeah, usually around water, like you said, or around some

1107
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:11,960
kind of food, like in huckleberry season when the huckleberries

1108
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:12,519
get ripe.

1109
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 8: If you go to the huckleberry.

1110
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 9: You know the berry patches, Uh, you'll you'll see prints sometimes.

1111
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,519
And then there's one fellow out in Montana that has

1112
01:07:26,599 --> 01:07:33,760
a huckleberry store. So he employs the flat flat Flathead

1113
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:38,960
Indians and the Blackfoot Indian tribal people too to pick

1114
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:42,800
the the huckleberries because it's a wild it's not a

1115
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,880
domesticated plant. They'll pick the berries and then bring him

1116
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,880
to him and then he makes jelly and sells him

1117
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:48,360
in his store.

1118
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,199
Speaker 8: So he gives them extra money if they can get.

1119
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 9: Photographs of sasquatch because they're picking it at the height

1120
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,039
of the season and they're you know, they're there all

1121
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:03,440
day every day, and you know, and then they a

1122
01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:05,280
lot of times camp out and.

1123
01:08:05,079 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 8: They've actually he's actually have a he has a really

1124
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,039
good collection of photographs that these.

1125
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:17,520
Speaker 9: That these pickers have taken for him. Okay, other words,

1126
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,159
in other words, yeah, when I go to areas where

1127
01:08:20,199 --> 01:08:21,319
you'd expect to see.

1128
01:08:21,159 --> 01:08:28,199
Speaker 3: Them, well, that's definitely unverified. Yeah, there we go.

1129
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, verified crafts, unverified, berries.

1130
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 8: Verified.

1131
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,239
Speaker 11: Can you guys hear me now? Yeah, yeah, you can

1132
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:41,520
hear me. This is.

1133
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 8: Hi, Hi everyone.

1134
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,159
Speaker 11: I lost two USB hubs. I had to reconfigure them

1135
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:51,159
and reboot twice. It's like the episode where where Doug

1136
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:53,359
liked his microphone diets crazy.

1137
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:59,079
Speaker 3: No, no, no, my microphone actually exploded. I've never had

1138
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:03,000
that one happen and I got zapped. I got it exploded.

1139
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,199
Speaker 6: Wow.

1140
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 3: It should makes no sense because they're what five vaults

1141
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:11,920
by point four volts. It doesn't make any sense. I

1142
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:17,439
don't know. And yeah, it is a little weird sometimes.

1143
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,039
Speaker 5: That's where that shouldn't happened.

1144
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 3: But we're happy to have you. But the last time

1145
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,079
you came on, David, you have this huge echo like

1146
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:27,800
it was delayed by like a minute. It was not

1147
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,399
only an echo, but it was a minute delayed echo

1148
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,159
was horrible.

1149
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,119
Speaker 5: That's crazy. I can't explain it.

1150
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 8: But so Roger.

1151
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,359
Speaker 3: If he has any more technical problems, give him the

1152
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,680
damn hook.

1153
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:41,279
Speaker 7: What if it.

1154
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 3: Made well, then give yourself the hook?

1155
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 7: All right, just look him.

1156
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 3: He only gets one last chance. This is it anyhow, David,

1157
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:58,640
I don't you haven't missed much except except stories. We

1158
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,680
were talking about, orbs. We've been talking about, you know,

1159
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:07,520
Bigfoot's talking, whether they have language, mind speak. We've covered

1160
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:13,000
We've covered geographic locations of swamp apes and so my,

1161
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,720
my one question, do you breathe all the places in

1162
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,479
the world. Florida is kind of the opposite of the

1163
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,680
Pacific Northwest, you know, it's like the opposite hot and humid.

1164
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,840
It's warm all ye're well to be described that way,

1165
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,239
and especially in the summer. So why do you think

1166
01:10:33,279 --> 01:10:36,920
they're there? Even why wouldn't they migrate into Ohio or

1167
01:10:37,119 --> 01:10:41,239
Tennessee or somewhere more mild? But what are your thoughts?

1168
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:46,359
Speaker 6: I have really no idea about that. But you know,

1169
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,720
back when Florida. You know, Florida back in the day

1170
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:54,520
was wild, you know, a thick vegetation. There weren't that

1171
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,600
many people here. It's swamped, lots of water right swamp,

1172
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,800
there's the wildlife and stuff. Well, now I think we're

1173
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,840
getting more sightings because there's more development going on here.

1174
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:12,439
There's people moving here there. You know, these developers are

1175
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,159
mowing down all the habitats of all these animals, the

1176
01:11:16,319 --> 01:11:20,880
spellcapes and bigfoots and stuff like that, so it's harder

1177
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,159
for them to get around. So they probably were noticeable, right.

1178
01:11:25,079 --> 01:11:30,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, do they have laws that protect

1179
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:31,039
wetlands in.

1180
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 6: Florida supposed to, but it seems like the developers get

1181
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,880
away with anything they want.

1182
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, here's okay. So I got to tell this

1183
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,840
just quick story. I was looking at an office building

1184
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,640
and yet I needed more parking spots. They don't want

1185
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,399
to buy it because I needed more parking spots. And

1186
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,159
I and I went to the city and I said,

1187
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:55,520
I need to add like four more parking spots. And

1188
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,720
it kind of we would have to put a culvert

1189
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:02,079
in a ditch. Like it's a ditch, not a wetlands,

1190
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:04,600
it's a ditch. You can call it a wetlands that

1191
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,800
you want, but it's a man may ditch. And they

1192
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,880
turned me down. I had to meet before all these

1193
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:13,039
powerful people, and they turned me down. And yet I

1194
01:12:13,119 --> 01:12:17,760
see them mowing down wetlands by the mile and mile. Now, yes,

1195
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:20,520
and it's like, how corrupt.

1196
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:21,279
Speaker 6: Yes.

1197
01:12:22,119 --> 01:12:25,159
Speaker 3: And I even offered to buy an acre of wetlands

1198
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:29,039
and preserve it in exchange for my little six foot

1199
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,960
variants on a ditch. I mean, I did everything I

1200
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,079
could because I really wanted this building. It was this

1201
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:38,560
amazing deal and I needed the room and we needed

1202
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,760
to move, you know, on told radio. And so my

1203
01:12:43,079 --> 01:12:46,199
my my thing is is I would imagine it's a

1204
01:12:46,319 --> 01:12:49,119
nightmare in Florida with all the wetlands and the building

1205
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,119
and the draining and the pumping.

1206
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 6: Yes, it's terrible. It's just terrible. We got so many

1207
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,880
people coming here. We've got an extreme drought going on,

1208
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,399
which is why right now it's good for research because

1209
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,399
we can get back in these swamp areas that you've

1210
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,479
never been able to get through before, you know. So

1211
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,399
that's the benefit as a researcher for the drought. But

1212
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,199
it's not good and the developers get away with murder.

1213
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:20,760
They're just plowing down the stuff. You know, tortoise gopher

1214
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:26,199
tortoises are supposed to be protected and they just bowled

1215
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:31,119
them over, just bury them. They just they just destroy everything.

1216
01:13:31,159 --> 01:13:36,159
They get away with it. Now was I'm a realtor, okay, so, oh,

1217
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,560
residential realtor. You know, if you were trying to buy land,

1218
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,680
like what you said, if you were trying to build

1219
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,880
a house, Oh no, it has to be your house

1220
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,079
has to be one hundred feet away from the wetland,

1221
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:55,600
the line of delineation or whatever. It's bull crap because

1222
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,359
the developers get away with their.

1223
01:13:57,279 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah ribes who it's all about the

1224
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,319
bribe and the corruption, and it's just it irks me though,

1225
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,800
it really does.

1226
01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:10,239
Speaker 6: Drawing everything.

1227
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, David, you just got back from Florida.

1228
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,159
Speaker 5: I did, and you.

1229
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:17,079
Speaker 3: Watched the Artemis launch.

1230
01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:19,319
Speaker 5: I believe it was amazing.

1231
01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:21,239
Speaker 11: I feel my son's down to watch it with me

1232
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,239
and it's something they'll tell their grandchildren.

1233
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 5: It was. It was great.

1234
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,039
Speaker 6: Launches are really cool.

1235
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 3: Could you could you see the Artemis launch?

1236
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,119
Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, I think that's the one that was like

1237
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:39,439
a month ago, right, David. I think it was like yeah,

1238
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,840
I could see it from my house. I'm I'm in

1239
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,600
Tampa on the west coast. Okay, you could see it

1240
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,880
going up because it was I think it was a

1241
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,680
night time like seven o'clock, six o'clock launch or something.

1242
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was six pm and we were on the

1243
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,279
A one A I think it's called. Yeah, we had

1244
01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:02,119
we had a a great It was really amazing.

1245
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 6: It's something to see, that's for sure.

1246
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, So the West coast of Florida is very,

1247
01:15:10,359 --> 01:15:14,000
very a lot of limestone, beautiful clean water that come

1248
01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:16,720
up in the out of all the like the wiki

1249
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,840
Watchy River that almost uh, there's the Crystal River. I

1250
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:26,479
can name one. People have never seen it. They're just

1251
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,920
shocked because when I say crystal clear, it's crystal clear.

1252
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:35,199
And it's so different than.

1253
01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:39,199
Speaker 6: In the Midwest. Because of course, you know, the bigfoots

1254
01:15:39,279 --> 01:15:42,600
and skuncakes, they need to cool off, you know, So

1255
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,920
they're probably sitting in those springs, they're sitting in the swamps,

1256
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,520
they're sitting in creeks and stuff like that keep cool.

1257
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,840
They're probably covering themselves in mud to keep the mosquitoes

1258
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,760
bugs off of them. Probably so.

1259
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 3: But my question, you do you have you ever done research.

1260
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:02,720
Are one of those spring fed rivers.

1261
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 6: Been all over the place? Probably? I have not.

1262
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 8: I have not.

1263
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 3: I just wonder if around some of those areas there

1264
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,760
would be a bigger population. I don't know. I mean

1265
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,119
just brain diarrhea.

1266
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 6: Here, right.

1267
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 9: I think one of the reasons you asked why they

1268
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:28,640
stay in that environment with a hot humidity and whatnot,

1269
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,960
with all that hair on them and stuff. I think

1270
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,000
they over time they've developed a symbiotic relationship with the environment.

1271
01:16:35,399 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 8: So they developed certain.

1272
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 9: Foods that they that they can expedite and favor. Right,

1273
01:16:43,399 --> 01:16:46,199
So I think it's like the symbiosis thing. They become

1274
01:16:46,279 --> 01:16:50,239
part of the environment, and so you know, they feel

1275
01:16:50,319 --> 01:16:52,640
comfortable in that environment and they're part of it. So

1276
01:16:53,399 --> 01:16:55,079
they know where to get their fish, They know to

1277
01:16:55,119 --> 01:16:59,239
get their alligator eggs or their swamp apples and whatnot.

1278
01:17:00,079 --> 01:17:02,840
They know where they're nesting, they have nesting areas, they

1279
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,520
know the seasonal foods.

1280
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:11,239
Speaker 6: And various you know, that's a great point. I saw

1281
01:17:11,359 --> 01:17:15,479
palmetto berries is a it seems to be a favorite

1282
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:20,119
food of beers and stuff like that. But also skun capes.

1283
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,119
They've been seen in areas where there's saw pument.

1284
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 3: I didn't even know there was such a thing where.

1285
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, what the heck? Yeah you know what that's

1286
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,279
used for? Right? No, saw palmetal berries for prospect.

1287
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh I've seen you know, I've heard about Yeah,

1288
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,319
I saw palmetal. But that's where what you're.

1289
01:17:40,199 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 6: Using they grow them?

1290
01:17:43,079 --> 01:17:48,159
Speaker 3: Roger, can you buy me a bottle of the Amazon?

1291
01:17:48,279 --> 01:17:51,119
Speaker 7: I have a delivery?

1292
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:52,279
Speaker 3: I'm joking.

1293
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,039
Speaker 11: Oh god, thank god, Marie. I have a question for you.

1294
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:04,600
I'm really wondering central Florida. Tell me about the caves

1295
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,560
and how you think they tie in with skun cape

1296
01:18:09,239 --> 01:18:17,279
and the sightings, not only the sightings but like habitat Well.

1297
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 6: First of all, I'm one to believe that we have both.

1298
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,520
We have bigfoots and skunk capes of Florida. And I

1299
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,039
say that is because the reports are very different from

1300
01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:32,279
one another and the region. Right, So, anything south of

1301
01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:36,520
Tampa seems to be skunk capes where they're four toes

1302
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:41,720
and they're shorter, they're shorter, they're skinnier four toes versus

1303
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:46,279
five toes, and then are on Tampa up north on

1304
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,880
Tampa and up north is the typical bigfoot seems to

1305
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,079
be five toes six to nine feet tall, hairy, big

1306
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:02,319
you know, so the reports are here different in the areas,

1307
01:19:03,279 --> 01:19:08,680
so we do I think we're dealing with two different

1308
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:16,399
kinds of beings going on out there. I'm sorry, Dave,

1309
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:18,439
what was the question. I've very said that.

1310
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm messing with Rogers, Sorry, Marie.

1311
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:30,159
Speaker 6: Caves. So I don't think the skun caves deal with caves, okay,

1312
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:34,399
but I think the bigfoot stew and it's the coolest

1313
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:38,960
place to be in Florida is in a cave where

1314
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:44,039
it's at least ten degrees cooler, if more, you can

1315
01:19:44,159 --> 01:19:48,199
hide from people. There's water. There's usually water in a

1316
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:51,960
lot of those caves, and like I said, it's cooler.

1317
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,159
Speaker 11: A lot of people don't even they don't even realize

1318
01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,359
that there's caves in Florida. But you know, when I

1319
01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:00,560
found that out, it's really interesting.

1320
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: Well, there's so much cars. They're limestone. That makes incredible games.

1321
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 9: The photo Dave Dave Chili film and they and the

1322
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:18,319
Miyaka skuncape photograph. They do they compare? Are they comparable?

1323
01:20:18,359 --> 01:20:19,479
I mean, do they look like the same?

1324
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,359
Speaker 3: I think that Mayaka that's one of the the worst

1325
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,479
things I've ever seen. It's a joke.

1326
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 8: So that's like a hoax.

1327
01:20:27,319 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 3: Well, I've I've heard it matches exactly the Ripley Believe

1328
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,399
It Museum. There's a display that matches exact.

1329
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 9: I mean, lest Concape was at the Ripley's Museum that day.

1330
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 6: You know what the problem is with that Maaca story

1331
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:46,800
for me is they talked. The lady says that, oh,

1332
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,039
it was stealing apples off her back porch. Right, that's

1333
01:20:50,039 --> 01:20:57,880
the story. We don't have apples in Florida where yeahs

1334
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,239
of apples and keeping on.

1335
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,159
Speaker 3: Doesn't it looks like somebody took palmetto and glued it

1336
01:21:04,199 --> 01:21:07,439
to its lips because I don't I don't think any

1337
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:13,000
animals actually eat the sa Pual meadow. Why would it

1338
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:17,520
eat beatings because it's pretty much cellulose, it's non nutritious.

1339
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,359
Speaker 9: A lot of those photos I animated to see what

1340
01:21:20,399 --> 01:21:23,119
the AI would do with them, and on that one

1341
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:24,199
it turned real weird.

1342
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,359
Speaker 8: You know, look like a giant.

1343
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 9: Teddy bear stuffed animal things. Yeah, but some of them,

1344
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,920
some of them would like turn and then walk away

1345
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,199
and it would be a bear. So it's it's kind

1346
01:21:34,199 --> 01:21:37,600
of interesting to animate the photo. Those famous all the

1347
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,880
different famous it's not.

1348
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 3: A bad idea, although AI is changing so quick and

1349
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:44,520
so fast.

1350
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, Dave, I have a little bit of a insight

1351
01:21:48,399 --> 01:21:49,000
for you.

1352
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:49,359
Speaker 3: Sure.

1353
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 7: Up here, up here, we have a ton of caves

1354
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:56,479
like uh TKB just posted about Tennessee. That's where I'm at.

1355
01:21:57,079 --> 01:21:59,439
And when it gets you know, one hundred degrees during

1356
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,399
the day nine eight percent humidity august our, our activity

1357
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,600
goes down, way down. But we still go because you know,

1358
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,239
you have to go, even if you don't think. But

1359
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,520
I've confirmed it in our area that hardly anything happens.

1360
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,399
And we have caves. There's one cave that goes under

1361
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:22,279
the property that we have access to that goes under

1362
01:22:23,279 --> 01:22:26,600
multiple farms, probably two miles to a river, and you

1363
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,239
can put a boat in so and there's all kinds

1364
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:33,079
of different accesses to that with crevice's and you know,

1365
01:22:33,159 --> 01:22:35,520
we have all that limestone and all. But I have

1366
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,439
noticed that in the past three or four years that

1367
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,239
if we go on a very human muggy night, we

1368
01:22:42,239 --> 01:22:43,319
were wasting our time.

1369
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Well here that leads me into two questions. One

1370
01:22:49,159 --> 01:22:51,920
Loretta asked, do you think they have different type of hair,

1371
01:22:52,039 --> 01:22:56,520
like thinner hair or less of it? And then mister

1372
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,000
Robinson asked, do you think Bergmann's law play down there?

1373
01:23:01,239 --> 01:23:04,079
You know, they're the animals are smaller in the South.

1374
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:10,279
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, that would work, assuming it was the same species, right,

1375
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:15,600
if one's more ape like and one's more right robust,

1376
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:16,359
cave man like.

1377
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1378
01:23:17,279 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: Well, go ahead and answer that question, Marie if you can.

1379
01:23:20,039 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Bourbon's law, you know, you take large animals.

1380
01:23:25,039 --> 01:23:28,880
The further the closer you get to the equator. There

1381
01:23:29,039 --> 01:23:33,000
they get smaller in size, right, because it's hotter, right,

1382
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,960
and something you know, like in the Pacific Northwest could

1383
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,720
not survive here in Florida because they have so much hair,

1384
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,159
they got so much muscle. They need a lot of protein,

1385
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:47,319
a lot of calories, and in Florida you're not going

1386
01:23:47,399 --> 01:23:50,920
to find that, so they're gonna be a little more scrawnier, skinnier.

1387
01:23:53,439 --> 01:24:00,479
So it's it's just really interesting how different the stories are.

1388
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:11,279
Speaker 11: That's a great point, Marie. Also with time, you know,

1389
01:24:11,359 --> 01:24:14,079
you think about the younger Dryest twelve eight hundred years

1390
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:17,239
ago when the Laurentid ice sheet melted and all of

1391
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:21,319
the megafauna in North America got killed off. Basically everything

1392
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:26,319
before that time was much larger, like the giant ground slows.

1393
01:24:26,359 --> 01:24:30,880
They had huge armadillos, they had everything was huge, and

1394
01:24:31,119 --> 01:24:35,960
I think after that event it came down to survival,

1395
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,000
came down to calories, and that's why a lot of

1396
01:24:38,039 --> 01:24:42,279
the larger species couldn't survive and why we're left with

1397
01:24:42,399 --> 01:24:44,199
smaller species nowadays.

1398
01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:45,279
Speaker 5: What do you think about that ray?

1399
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that has a lot to do with it.

1400
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,199
I think it was over hunting too.

1401
01:24:53,359 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 9: Clovis developed the Clovis technology, which is an anlysle on

1402
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,239
a dart, you know, a spear thrower in the Clovis point,

1403
01:25:01,239 --> 01:25:04,920
which is highly sharp, and they there, they their group

1404
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,920
hunting methodologies were really highly advanced. So I think it

1405
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,760
was like, like you said, the food, the food resources

1406
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:17,039
went down, and the of course at the same time

1407
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,800
the ice sheets melting, You're you're being you're being offered

1408
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,399
a lot more vegetation than you were when the ice

1409
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:23,920
was there.

1410
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 8: True, got that too, but.

1411
01:25:28,279 --> 01:25:32,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, like like like the mammoth, uh, you know, tons

1412
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,760
and tons of vegetation a day. With the melting glaciation,

1413
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:42,479
you'd get more food. So I don't know it's it.

1414
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:46,199
I'm sure it plays a part, but I I personally

1415
01:25:46,199 --> 01:25:51,079
think the megafauna was over hunted with the competition between

1416
01:25:51,119 --> 01:25:56,239
Clovis Man and possibly even a big game hunters like Sasquatch.

1417
01:25:57,279 --> 01:25:59,840
And we were talking about before the show, the Solutrean,

1418
01:26:00,399 --> 01:26:04,479
the Solutarian hypothesis, which is actually Europeans coming up through

1419
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,560
the South through Florida on an ice sheet and and

1420
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:11,720
and doing like massive hunting as well.

1421
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 8: So I don't know, and.

1422
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,359
Speaker 11: We didn't We didn't even know about the Denisovans until

1423
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,960
like just a few years ago. So I think it

1424
01:26:20,039 --> 01:26:24,359
stands to reason that there might likely be yet another

1425
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,319
unknown hominid, or probably a few unknown homids yeah, in

1426
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:32,640
the world yet to be discovered, and maybe they were here.

1427
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, like we were talking about before, in South America,

1428
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:41,159
they're still discovering tribes that haven't been seen by like

1429
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:43,199
Westerners exactly.

1430
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 6: So like Bergman's rule, going back to that, let's talk

1431
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:51,560
about deer in Florida. Okay, North Florida. You're gonna have big,

1432
01:26:52,239 --> 01:26:54,920
you know, meal deer, whatever decent size.

1433
01:26:55,399 --> 01:26:56,319
Speaker 3: You go on to the.

1434
01:26:56,359 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 6: Keys and they're called key deer, and they're the size

1435
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,159
of a dog. They're tiny, they're just a little bit

1436
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:08,079
higher than your knee right, they're teeny tiny. So that's

1437
01:27:08,079 --> 01:27:09,359
a perfect example of.

1438
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: Even even Minnesota's way bigger way tills in Texas.

1439
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 5: Does right exactly.

1440
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,039
Speaker 9: That makes sense with the food and the environment and

1441
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,119
and the space and stuff too, because like on Catalina

1442
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:26,199
Island in California, they had mastodon that were mammoths that

1443
01:27:26,319 --> 01:27:30,560
were that were tiny. They were like dwarf mastadonts because

1444
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:31,920
they had the island effect.

1445
01:27:32,319 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

1446
01:27:33,159 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 9: And then they say the what what's the the small

1447
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:43,199
hommeted called the shoot I can't remember what Meldrum called them, hobbit.

1448
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:52,399
The hobbit like their their their environment. Uh, they're isolated

1449
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,359
and become small or things like that.

1450
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:05,319
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're had mentioned bigfoots and skunk games you

1451
01:28:05,319 --> 01:28:08,000
think are different. Can you kind of expound on them?

1452
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:15,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, I briefly talked about it. But so they're like

1453
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,800
the reports I said, are very different from South Florida

1454
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,600
and North Florida and everything south of Tampa seems to

1455
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:28,439
be more skunk ape related because they are. You'll find

1456
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:34,359
people will find four toed prints versus five prince and

1457
01:28:34,399 --> 01:28:40,000
they describe them as being the skunk apes being skinnier scrawny,

1458
01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:45,119
less hair, they're shorter, they're like five six feet tall,

1459
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,600
and they stink obviously, But the biggest difference is four

1460
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,960
toes versus five toes, and they're long toes and they're

1461
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,960
probably they're probably long because they're climbing trees.

1462
01:28:58,399 --> 01:29:02,079
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, okay, Well let's backtrack for a minute to

1463
01:29:02,079 --> 01:29:04,760
get this through. Get everybody's light bulb to go off.

1464
01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:09,800
You're saying, skullcapes have four toes, yes, and longer toes. Yes,

1465
01:29:10,199 --> 01:29:12,920
that's kind of a key point I've never heard before. Yes,

1466
01:29:13,159 --> 01:29:16,640
why I have never heard that? What's wrong with me?

1467
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 6: I don't know what's wrong.

1468
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 11: With So what do you think about the idea perfect.

1469
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 6: For climbing a tree? So down in the everglades, everything's water, right,

1470
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:30,520
where are you going to sleep?

1471
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 3: Back?

1472
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 7: And interaction attraction in the mud also, yeah, traction.

1473
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 6: In the mud. You have to be able to climb

1474
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:39,760
a tree in order to get us dry spotsy to

1475
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,079
sleep at night unless you find a hammock, a little

1476
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:47,199
island with dry land that you could sleep. But every

1477
01:29:47,239 --> 01:29:50,520
other animal is there too, so most likely they're probably

1478
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,640
sleeping up in a tree. And a few years ago

1479
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,880
I found this tree that looked like it had a

1480
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:04,279
giant hammock. It was vines, thousands of vines, and it

1481
01:30:04,359 --> 01:30:08,279
was the least really wide about eight feet very cool,

1482
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,119
ten feet long, eight feet wide.

1483
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 3: I've never heard any of this kind of stuff.

1484
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I videoed it and everything, like.

1485
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 7: Doug, if you watch Squatch and Holler when Marie DeMont,

1486
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:27,199
you'll see the pictures. I'm sorry, Roger.

1487
01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 6: Rogers got pictures, Doug.

1488
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,800
Speaker 3: Oh, but but I'm being honest. Somehow this is what

1489
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:40,039
right over me. And what wasn't to consider it.

1490
01:30:41,039 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 7: What was interesting was she she showed the picture and

1491
01:30:46,279 --> 01:30:48,800
she was on the trail side, and it looked like

1492
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:53,239
something had it leaned so it could escape away from

1493
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:58,199
the trail. That's what I saw. And and it looked like,

1494
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:01,560
like you said, thousands of vines intertwined and it didn't

1495
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,920
look natural at all.

1496
01:31:04,199 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 6: It looked like a hammock, right, like a growing No.

1497
01:31:08,079 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 3: No, no, it's the well, what what were the vines

1498
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,000
made out of? You know?

1499
01:31:13,399 --> 01:31:16,199
Speaker 6: Vines? Vines? Here one vine?

1500
01:31:16,399 --> 01:31:19,399
Speaker 3: These are like Tarzan, like the old Tarzan vines right,

1501
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,840
the tars would just swing on.

1502
01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:23,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're all.

1503
01:31:26,079 --> 01:31:28,119
Speaker 3: I want to know what kind of vine grows thick

1504
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:29,520
and tarzan swing on.

1505
01:31:30,039 --> 01:31:33,039
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we are in these areas. We do. We

1506
01:31:33,159 --> 01:31:36,800
have these thick vines and you can if you want

1507
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:39,760
to try it, you can hang on them and swing around.

1508
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:40,399
But not me.

1509
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I've heard of like three toe drags that

1510
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,479
are occasionally found, but I've never heard a theory that

1511
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,800
skunk gaps have four. I've never heard that theory.

1512
01:31:52,079 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 9: Maybe maybe the maybe the big toe or the thumb

1513
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,079
is is subdominant or something.

1514
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,039
Speaker 3: Right, even if you ever heard that before that skull

1515
01:32:02,079 --> 01:32:08,000
games had four toes and big quotes said five no longer, Doug, Yeah,

1516
01:32:08,279 --> 01:32:08,760
I have.

1517
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 11: My question though technical problems, I will, I will, But Marie,

1518
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,920
my question is if their toes are longer, do you

1519
01:32:23,119 --> 01:32:25,720
think this helps them somehow to be aquatic as well?

1520
01:32:27,119 --> 01:32:27,319
Speaker 3: Ah?

1521
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 6: Who could be? Could very well be thinking about the

1522
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:41,600
areas they're mostly swamp swamp areas, not much unless they're

1523
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:47,880
trying to cross a lake or something. But yeah, like

1524
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,840
Roger said, digging in the mud and helps give you

1525
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:55,039
traction while you're probably going through the bumps and stuff.

1526
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,399
But definitely, I think climbing trees, they got to get

1527
01:32:59,399 --> 01:33:02,560
out of the water, they got to sleep somewhere.

1528
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. And by the way, we need to re explain

1529
01:33:05,199 --> 01:33:07,880
Bergman's law. Here's why people are thinking, well, there's no

1530
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,359
big animals. No, no, no, that's not what we mean.

1531
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:15,920
If the same species lives south and that same species

1532
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:21,119
lives north, the ones in the south are generally smaller.

1533
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:25,439
Now we're talking it could be five pounds. You know.

1534
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,279
We're not talking about something like, oh my god, we're

1535
01:33:28,319 --> 01:33:30,600
just saying, like a white tail is a great example.

1536
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:34,239
They're smaller down south, bigger as you get farther north,

1537
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,439
until you finally run out of the range. It's kind

1538
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:40,640
of the same with black beards. It's the same with

1539
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,399
a lot of animals as a general rule, you.

1540
01:33:44,359 --> 01:33:47,520
Speaker 9: Know, bears, not so much humans. Like if you go

1541
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,039
to Africa and you look at the dispersion of height.

1542
01:33:52,039 --> 01:33:55,239
You know what I'm saying, really tall, you bangy.

1543
01:33:57,159 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 3: Referring to animals, Well, it doesn't work for you, but

1544
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,319
it is obviously, Yes, Africa would have elephants. We don't

1545
01:34:04,319 --> 01:34:05,920
have it. No, I don't mean that.

1546
01:34:06,359 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 7: And the thing here in the late sixties they moved in, well,

1547
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,039
the white tails were wiped out, and they brought in

1548
01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:16,479
some from you know, up in the Michigan area and

1549
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:18,840
other places. I can tell the difference in them by

1550
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:22,520
their the facial the skull shape. But they get the

1551
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,720
same size here, but they're not as big as they

1552
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,640
would be in Michigan. And it's the same the same animal.

1553
01:34:28,119 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, every law has exceptions too, and so I don't

1554
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,359
want to confuse people of law.

1555
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,239
Speaker 11: I used I used to grow BUNSI trees, and it's

1556
01:34:40,279 --> 01:34:42,600
basically a big tree. But what keeps it small? As

1557
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,319
you put it in a small pot and you never

1558
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,680
increase the size of the pot. So maybe you know

1559
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,560
there's I don't know, maybe it's just nature.

1560
01:34:52,279 --> 01:34:55,239
Speaker 3: Well, it's the whole thing is that a larger animal

1561
01:34:55,479 --> 01:35:00,760
can hold more heat in and survive. So is that

1562
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:05,039
species propagates up north? They bigger to hold more heat,

1563
01:35:05,079 --> 01:35:09,000
and it's it's in their survival. That's the only reason.

1564
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,119
Speaker 5: For it that makes sense.

1565
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 3: It's just heat heat conservation.

1566
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 9: Yes, But it is kind of interesting that that sasquatch

1567
01:35:18,239 --> 01:35:21,800
and bear both fit into the Bergman's law. I mean,

1568
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,840
if if was real species, it wouldn't fit into the law.

1569
01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I hear what you're saying. In other words,

1570
01:35:28,319 --> 01:35:29,840
it would be bigger in Alaska.

1571
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 8: Well, if it was a mythology.

1572
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,560
Speaker 3: It wouldn't follow law, right exactly. Yeah, it's a good argument.

1573
01:35:37,199 --> 01:35:38,000
Is a good argument.

1574
01:35:39,159 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 7: I learned something tonight, thank you.

1575
01:35:41,079 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 6: It's even our black bears here out in the wild,

1576
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:48,119
if you're in the woods or whatever. They're skinny, Yeah, skinny.

1577
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:53,239
They're not these big, you know, chunky animals unless they're

1578
01:35:53,359 --> 01:35:54,600
rating people's you know.

1579
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't need to be big and heavy. To

1580
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:07,199
hibernate is long and survived cold and oh so so okay,

1581
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,199
I love the toe thing's never heard that the length

1582
01:36:10,199 --> 01:36:14,119
of the does how much longer? To get specific, do

1583
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:17,039
you think they might be Marie and put up the

1584
01:36:17,159 --> 01:36:24,359
unverified This is all unverified. Yeah, this is still a developed.

1585
01:36:24,079 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 6: You have a cast of a four ton French.

1586
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,279
Speaker 3: Oh you do have one. But how much longer do

1587
01:36:34,319 --> 01:36:37,640
you think the toes are than all?

1588
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 6: Toes seem to be like a human, like a humans toes, right,

1589
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,359
but skunky toes seem to be like three four inches long?

1590
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 3: Wow? That long, everybody?

1591
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,520
Speaker 6: And like there's a story about this down on the

1592
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:05,399
similar reservation around Lego Bunchobee down south where this lady's driving,

1593
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,760
this Indian woman's driving down the road and a young

1594
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:12,119
skunk ape falls out of the tree in front of

1595
01:37:12,119 --> 01:37:14,119
her and lands in front of her car. She had

1596
01:37:14,119 --> 01:37:17,119
to slam on her brakes, but she said the expression

1597
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:20,079
on the skunk ape was it was like a juvenile

1598
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:25,319
you know, it was like like like oops, like it

1599
01:37:25,319 --> 01:37:27,600
it got caught, it didn't you know, I didn't know

1600
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:30,279
the branch was going to break and it fell right

1601
01:37:30,319 --> 01:37:31,199
in front of her car.

1602
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 11: So did she give a description of its face? Didn't

1603
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:38,079
that look more human or more primate? How did she

1604
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:38,760
describe it?

1605
01:37:39,159 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 6: Probably more primate, that's what the skunk caapes can be,

1606
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:49,640
more primate looking than those bigfoots. Most people described them

1607
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:55,039
as being having more human face, right, like kind of knows,

1608
01:37:55,079 --> 01:37:59,079
not the flat, you know, primate thing, but probably down

1609
01:37:59,119 --> 01:38:03,720
there it be more primate. It seems to be every

1610
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:08,000
the behaviors. They don't seem to build structures. You don't

1611
01:38:08,079 --> 01:38:11,439
find the same stuff when you do research down south

1612
01:38:12,119 --> 01:38:15,159
and then you do here. You know, it's very hard.

1613
01:38:15,319 --> 01:38:18,199
You're hoping to find the footprint, but typically you're not

1614
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:22,600
going to find a structure. You're not going to find

1615
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,199
too much. You just got to be in the right

1616
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:25,199
place at the right time.

1617
01:38:26,119 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 7: Marie, if there's a difference in the feet. Are there

1618
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,600
a difference in the hands? Also, have y'all I do.

1619
01:38:33,359 --> 01:38:35,359
Speaker 6: I haven't heard of anyone in the hands.

1620
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:39,359
Speaker 3: That's a great question. A that's really a good question.

1621
01:38:41,359 --> 01:38:44,199
Speaker 6: But I haven't heard anybody who has just talked about

1622
01:38:44,239 --> 01:38:44,800
their hands.

1623
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 7: But that's just it. That statement though, just it's I've

1624
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,680
got questions racing. I'm trying to be quiet, but I'm

1625
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,800
curious because we have a friend that found some hand

1626
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:03,159
prints and in South Alabama, and the thumb looks like

1627
01:39:03,199 --> 01:39:07,239
it's further back, yeah than you know, so and and

1628
01:39:07,239 --> 01:39:10,439
and some friends down there say they have an overlap

1629
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:15,319
sometimes where mostly bigfoot, but every now and then they

1630
01:39:15,359 --> 01:39:18,600
see something that's smaller with one of my friends said

1631
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:21,680
it had the hair down over its eyes. It was

1632
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:23,800
watching him in a tree stand and he said it

1633
01:39:24,279 --> 01:39:27,560
looked more skunk capish what he would think, rather than

1634
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,199
the bigger one. So I would say, I would say

1635
01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:35,119
there's possibly every now and then, one may venture, you know,

1636
01:39:35,399 --> 01:39:37,279
into South Alabama or whatever, and.

1637
01:39:37,279 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, well there's skunk caper. They seem to like the water.

1638
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,840
They hang around the water area, so you're talking the Everglades.

1639
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:52,399
They seem to be spotted around along the coast, east coast,

1640
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:59,239
west coast, all the way around Florida, the Panhandle, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana,

1641
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:04,359
where wherever they're swampy areas close to the coast, they

1642
01:40:04,399 --> 01:40:08,640
do seem to be found there.

1643
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 5: Do they do?

1644
01:40:09,279 --> 01:40:10,520
Speaker 8: They do the wood knocking too?

1645
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:14,319
Speaker 6: Or just the squad we heard what not the last

1646
01:40:14,359 --> 01:40:15,760
time we were in the Everglades.

1647
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:18,119
Speaker 3: But you don't know if they're bigfoots.

1648
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:25,520
Speaker 6: I don't know. I've never seen one, but the reports

1649
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:26,319
are different.

1650
01:40:26,359 --> 01:40:32,680
Speaker 3: They're skinny, so skotcapes are smaller, skinnier. Do they have

1651
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,359
auburn colored hair like in Iran?

1652
01:40:37,039 --> 01:40:41,159
Speaker 6: Usually reddish descriptions are usually about the same. They're reddish

1653
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:43,840
brown or maybe black, depending.

1654
01:40:44,399 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 3: Look, if I see a skinny little ape in the

1655
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:50,000
Florida Everglades with foreign stills, I'm running.

1656
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 7: Not as fast as he can.

1657
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 3: Probably, Yeah, that.

1658
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,399
Speaker 11: You only have to be the slowest person right the way.

1659
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:07,199
Speaker 3: I was mine speaking. That was mine speaking. All you

1660
01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:15,079
see mine speak works. So there's a there's a gentleman

1661
01:41:15,159 --> 01:41:21,159
who wrote a very very intelligent can't comment about Bergmann's lawn.

1662
01:41:21,279 --> 01:41:25,199
I thought we should read it outlawed because our audio

1663
01:41:25,239 --> 01:41:29,760
listeners cannot read chat these posts, Roger, can you find

1664
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:34,199
that it's from d Man? It was back a little ways.

1665
01:41:35,279 --> 01:41:37,199
I had it up for a second.

1666
01:41:41,279 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 11: I'm looking forward, so Steamboat, you're right. The government does

1667
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,560
tied a lot. They do have a lot of secrets,

1668
01:41:49,079 --> 01:41:50,800
things that would terrify the public.

1669
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:52,119
Speaker 3: Here it is.

1670
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,199
Speaker 7: Found it the same time you do put oh, there

1671
01:41:56,279 --> 01:41:59,680
is read it, Roger, if you can rule is is

1672
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,039
a u full framework for understanding size variations in relation

1673
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:06,520
to climate, but it is essential to consider the exceptions

1674
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:13,279
and additional factors that may influence these patternss.

1675
01:42:13,399 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 3: Right, Well, just you know, there's always that one guy

1676
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:21,560
that gets to seven foot tall. You know, I have

1677
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,159
friends that are short. I just had a friend over

1678
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:26,000
here the other day. It's got to be like five

1679
01:42:26,039 --> 01:42:29,159
to one. I got other friends that are seven foot

1680
01:42:29,359 --> 01:42:34,399
So those are the the you know, the genetic differences

1681
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,600
between us and I would imagine there's a ton of

1682
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:41,920
genetic differences. Is there anybody that's like most confirmed though,

1683
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,119
that's concapes are different? Is there like, has there been

1684
01:42:45,239 --> 01:42:51,600
anybody that's actually gathered all the reports, like Scott from

1685
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,800
the mapping the Bigfoot mapping project. I wonder and if

1686
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,079
anybody's out there. This is a great challenge to do that,

1687
01:42:59,239 --> 01:43:03,199
to see if they're you know, the reports are consistent

1688
01:43:03,359 --> 01:43:13,640
of these skunky Oh my god. All right, well, David,

1689
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:19,880
for some reason besides besides your good looks.

1690
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,359
Speaker 9: Like I like a bunch of pages of all the

1691
01:43:24,359 --> 01:43:28,159
B F R O and other saucequatch, and then I

1692
01:43:28,239 --> 01:43:31,359
have it broken down into columns for what time of

1693
01:43:31,359 --> 01:43:33,039
the month it was seen?

1694
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 8: Uh, where it was it? Was it residential or was

1695
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,479
it rural? Morning? The evening night?

1696
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,079
Speaker 6: Uh? Male?

1697
01:43:42,319 --> 01:43:43,520
Speaker 8: Female saucequatch?

1698
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 3: Are there more sightings in the summer or less in

1699
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,680
the summer because of the hot weather?

1700
01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 6: Less?

1701
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 9: I could just do a quick one that there still

1702
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,840
are that there's there's some in July a road crossing,

1703
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,720
but it was in the morning five point fifteen, so

1704
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:03,960
it probably didn't get hot yet.

1705
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1706
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 9: All the summer ones seem to be at dawn or dusk,

1707
01:44:12,359 --> 01:44:15,039
and then the winter ones could be at any time.

1708
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

1709
01:44:18,199 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 9: Even it looks like it looks like they're of course,

1710
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:26,359
humans are out mostly not past nine o'clock, but the

1711
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:30,560
latest I see him. I never saw anything that indicates

1712
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:35,199
they're nocturnal, though, so, but people learnt out at night

1713
01:44:35,279 --> 01:44:37,800
that much looking, so that's why there's not as many counters.

1714
01:44:38,039 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, David Chili's skunk ape sighting daytime July eighth, that's

1715
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:48,600
like the time of the year, right, And it was

1716
01:44:49,159 --> 01:44:52,880
at eight o'clock, seven seven, eight o'clock in the evening,

1717
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:56,319
which is still hot. It's still you know, full sun

1718
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,760
and everything. That's when he's had his sighting. Yeah, July,

1719
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,279
that's the hottest time of the year.

1720
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:06,279
Speaker 9: And he could the animal where the subject could have

1721
01:45:06,319 --> 01:45:08,640
been honkered down in the water, and he got spooked up.

1722
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:13,399
Speaker 6: Well, he had. He was originally spotted over by a

1723
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:14,840
hammock area, which.

1724
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,239
Speaker 8: Is a dry area.

1725
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was walking along there and then he started

1726
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:24,439
going through the sawgrass and David said, the heat. Before

1727
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:27,840
he saw the skunk, he saw a deer running through there,

1728
01:45:28,399 --> 01:45:30,880
so it may have gone going. It may have been

1729
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,920
trying to chase after the deer, And which makes sense

1730
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,920
because when you watch the video, it's like it takes off,

1731
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,520
it starts off walking and it just takes off running.

1732
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:47,079
But if that was a human in a suit number one,

1733
01:45:48,079 --> 01:45:50,640
oh yeah, heat die of heat stroke in a suit,

1734
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:54,640
because I did a three month research study on this

1735
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,479
whole David Chiley sighting thing.

1736
01:45:58,239 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 3: Well, can we talk about that a little, did you

1737
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:06,039
on the results of the reenactment, because wasn't that filmed

1738
01:46:06,199 --> 01:46:08,520
running through saw grass in the Everglas.

1739
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 6: Yes, and yes, we did two reenactments. I had two

1740
01:46:15,039 --> 01:46:20,720
team members try it during the wintertime when there's not

1741
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:24,720
much water out there, so it wasn't in July. This

1742
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:30,399
was like January, and they couldn't do it. They couldn't

1743
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,880
do it. They were totally beat. The saw grass cuts

1744
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:38,600
you up. There's holes, there's logs, there's gators, there's snakes,

1745
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,800
there's the saw grass itself. When it dies, it creates

1746
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:47,680
a bed of just dried grass and your feet get

1747
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,359
caught up in there. And when you're out there, you're

1748
01:46:50,399 --> 01:46:53,319
looking for the path. A human is looking for the

1749
01:46:53,359 --> 01:46:57,159
path of least resistance to get through there. They're trying

1750
01:46:57,159 --> 01:46:59,239
to figure out where they could take the next step

1751
01:46:59,279 --> 01:47:03,079
back where the skun gape. He's just going, he's going straight.

1752
01:47:03,159 --> 01:47:05,760
He's not even looking down to see what's in front

1753
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,920
of him, if he's going to trip and fall. No,

1754
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:12,520
he's just going. Never even looks down.

1755
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 7: Would that explain, Marie? I watched that film years ago

1756
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,319
when and I noticed that even though it's moving, it

1757
01:47:20,319 --> 01:47:23,720
looks erratic, but it's kind of keeping its feet off

1758
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:26,079
the ground as much as possible. But I noticed its

1759
01:47:26,159 --> 01:47:29,880
head almost stays, Yeah, stay level.

1760
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,560
Speaker 6: Totally level. A human head would have been doing that.

1761
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:36,319
Speaker 7: It's running, because when it's jumping, it's actually calling its

1762
01:47:36,359 --> 01:47:39,520
body up but keeping the head in the same spot.

1763
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 6: It's like he's lighting. Right. People describe even when they

1764
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,199
see a bigfoot running, they'll say that it just looks

1765
01:47:47,239 --> 01:47:50,479
like it's gliding, you know, And that's exactly what he's doing,

1766
01:47:51,159 --> 01:47:54,439
totally gliding. His head's not bopping it at all. He's

1767
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:58,000
not even looking down. He's just going straight. And a

1768
01:47:58,079 --> 01:48:02,560
human in a suit would be down out there. It

1769
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:07,279
was I can't I calculated it out. It was. The

1770
01:48:07,359 --> 01:48:09,600
feel like temperature was one hundred and nine and a

1771
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:14,119
half degrees at the time that happened. The water was

1772
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:16,119
at least two to two and a half feet that

1773
01:48:16,199 --> 01:48:20,079
he was going through, So anybody in a suit, that

1774
01:48:20,159 --> 01:48:21,880
water's going to drag, right.

1775
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 3: That's gonna The average depth of the water in the Everglades.

1776
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's usually between one and a half two and

1777
01:48:29,279 --> 01:48:34,000
a half feet, depending on where you're at around that

1778
01:48:34,119 --> 01:48:37,960
area and the Cypress Creek. Uh, Cypress Preserve. Excuse me,

1779
01:48:38,239 --> 01:48:42,479
big Cypress, excuse me. It's usually around two two and

1780
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:45,359
a half feet in the summertime. If that war, there's

1781
01:48:45,399 --> 01:48:51,079
sharp there's sharks, there's steam rays, there's Yeah, the sharks

1782
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:53,720
come up out of the Gulf and they make their

1783
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,520
way into the Everglades because they're chasing baitfish.

1784
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 3: Right, was that mainly bull sharks? Yeah, yeah, because the

1785
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,359
Everglades are kind of brackish, I guess near the ocean.

1786
01:49:08,399 --> 01:49:11,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the Everglades is totally clear. It's the first

1787
01:49:12,279 --> 01:49:14,840
that there is. It's totally clear, and it's called the

1788
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:18,119
River of Grass. They just think it's, you know, a swamp,

1789
01:49:18,119 --> 01:49:21,600
but it's not. It's one giant river, is what it is.

1790
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,760
So the second re enactment we did, I brought in

1791
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:29,239
a trail runner, a marathon trail runner who's.

1792
01:49:29,079 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 3: Used to and that's kind of like legimeat science.

1793
01:49:33,319 --> 01:49:34,359
Speaker 7: I think I saw that.

1794
01:49:36,039 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 6: So I brought out a trail runner, someone who's highly

1795
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:42,560
experienced the running in dirt.

1796
01:49:42,279 --> 01:49:46,560
Speaker 3: And water and all that idea brought him there.

1797
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,880
Speaker 6: He couldn't do it either, he said his feet when

1798
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:52,960
he was trying to move his feet were getting caught

1799
01:49:53,039 --> 01:49:56,600
up in the bed of the dried dead.

1800
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:04,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's all like overlaid and.

1801
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 6: You're sinking in it and you're you're slowing down, and

1802
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,960
so he had to figure out a different way to

1803
01:50:09,119 --> 01:50:12,039
run through it. He had to do kind of like

1804
01:50:12,079 --> 01:50:13,000
a kicking motion.

1805
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken Marie watching that video, Uh, I

1806
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,439
used to train football players and stuff like that and

1807
01:50:22,159 --> 01:50:26,760
and watch their movements for well, no, no, I'm not

1808
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,800
I'm not not that big, but I didn't notice that. Yeah,

1809
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,520
there you go in the video. I noticed animals use

1810
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:38,359
like the mountain lion will use its tail. I've seen

1811
01:50:38,359 --> 01:50:41,720
it to change directions to whip the tail around and whatever.

1812
01:50:42,159 --> 01:50:45,079
This this thing in this video you're talking about, to

1813
01:50:45,199 --> 01:50:49,199
me looked like it was throwing its arms up to

1814
01:50:49,239 --> 01:50:51,760
have momentum going up and it would hop as it

1815
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,600
threw its arm up, and that's just helping the motion.

1816
01:50:56,039 --> 01:50:59,159
And I just couldn't see a person in a suit

1817
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:00,479
pulling that hall.

1818
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:07,079
Speaker 3: Well, how did how did the results come about? Did

1819
01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:10,279
you do an overlay of the two films? And yeah,

1820
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:12,199
and who was way slower?

1821
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,399
Speaker 6: Who is way slower.

1822
01:51:18,119 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 3: Or who was quicker, the skunk gaper, your runner, the well.

1823
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 6: It's hard to tell because like I said, they got

1824
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,600
caught up and stuff.

1825
01:51:26,399 --> 01:51:27,520
Speaker 3: They couldn't even do it.

1826
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:31,039
Speaker 6: They couldn't do it in the winter. Fine, they couldn't

1827
01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:31,760
even do it.

1828
01:51:32,119 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 3: So it was it was basically the skunk gabe did

1829
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:40,560
it in The runner couldn't do that period. Just couldn't

1830
01:51:41,239 --> 01:51:44,600
suit three runners do it, whether like.

1831
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 8: Six foot two or something like that. I mean he

1832
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,920
was a big person. The runner.

1833
01:51:50,279 --> 01:51:54,319
Speaker 6: Oh, the runner, Yeah, my last runner, the trail runner.

1834
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:59,960
He's about six two six three. So if he couldn't

1835
01:52:00,119 --> 01:52:01,119
do it, you should have.

1836
01:52:01,359 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 3: You should have phoned a runner that had four inch

1837
01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:09,960
toeses removed.

1838
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:18,399
Speaker 7: Are you involved in the process or are you committed? Buddy,

1839
01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,880
I'll give it back to you. I do have a question.

1840
01:52:23,079 --> 01:52:27,560
So the reports from around the cave areas versus the

1841
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:31,000
swampy areas with no caves are the size. Is there

1842
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:35,479
a size difference versus where the caves are versus not?

1843
01:52:37,119 --> 01:52:41,119
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so, m No, not at all.

1844
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:44,840
There was. We had a hurricane a couple of years ago,

1845
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:49,439
Hurricane Milton, that really Tampa was supposed to get a

1846
01:52:49,439 --> 01:52:53,640
direct hit and we did not, thank god. But the

1847
01:52:53,720 --> 01:53:01,520
reports were of people were seeing bigfoots around Brooks which

1848
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:03,800
is a very which is like one of the highest

1849
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:08,960
points in Florida, right, so it knew a hurricane, they

1850
01:53:09,039 --> 01:53:11,920
knew hurricanes were coming. It wanted to get to the

1851
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,439
highest ground. That's also where the caves are, so they

1852
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,880
probably went down into the caves to get out of

1853
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:22,039
the weather that was coming, you know. But that was

1854
01:53:22,079 --> 01:53:24,880
an interesting thing that there was a bunch of sightings

1855
01:53:25,119 --> 01:53:28,279
like the day before, a couple of days before the

1856
01:53:28,359 --> 01:53:29,359
hurricane was coming.

1857
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 3: So so I'm sorry, I got a really quick question.

1858
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,159
There's no difference between a swamp eat a swamp. Did

1859
01:53:37,199 --> 01:53:44,119
I say beep swamp where skunk deep? Just the term Yeah,

1860
01:53:44,319 --> 01:53:45,720
okay answer.

1861
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,840
Speaker 9: Do you ever find areas where it looks like they've

1862
01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:52,479
been feeding with seashell debris or dead snakes or dead

1863
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:55,920
egg gators or gator eggs or anything like that.

1864
01:53:58,239 --> 01:54:01,600
Speaker 6: We find that stuff when we're out researching. But you

1865
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,920
don't know if it was a big foot or not.

1866
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:09,600
It could be anything, could be Florida panthers, could be pythons,

1867
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:16,479
could be you know, bears, whatever else foxes there. So

1868
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:22,319
unless you see them, or like with the orange, you know,

1869
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:26,840
in context. Yeah, but like the orange, you know, it

1870
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:31,359
did something specific that really made it stand out and

1871
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,000
separate itself from a normal animal.

1872
01:54:34,279 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 3: You know why Marie used an orange, don't don't you all?

1873
01:54:37,119 --> 01:54:39,960
Because oranges are really rare in Florida.

1874
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:44,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, they won't take oranges up here, they'll take.

1875
01:54:44,239 --> 01:54:47,279
Speaker 3: The app or because it's not natural. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1876
01:54:47,439 --> 01:54:50,119
well and that was why Marie used it, because it's

1877
01:54:50,119 --> 01:54:51,159
a natural.

1878
01:54:52,439 --> 01:54:56,359
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, And normally we don't get good results from

1879
01:54:56,439 --> 01:55:00,560
using citrus. There was a report doctor Bill's Hewett who

1880
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,640
was talking about doctor Bill hewittt. Somebody was I was

1881
01:55:04,319 --> 01:55:09,920
fingerprint and ca okay, so he had what was I

1882
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:17,800
going to say? I just forgot, dang it, food. I

1883
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:19,079
forgot what we were just.

1884
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 8: Talking about, like oranges and oh okay.

1885
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 6: So they were out in I think the Green Swamp area,

1886
01:55:27,119 --> 01:55:31,039
and they came across a wild grapefruit tree, and they're

1887
01:55:31,079 --> 01:55:34,479
like cool, that's very rare to find, but you can

1888
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,680
in the green Swamp you can find some wild orange

1889
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:41,479
trees grapefruit trees. So they're like cool. So they picked

1890
01:55:41,479 --> 01:55:44,119
a couple of grapefruits and they put it in their

1891
01:55:44,159 --> 01:55:47,439
backpack and they took it back to the camp right,

1892
01:55:48,199 --> 01:55:55,399
so that night, something comes through starts ransacking. They're cooler,

1893
01:55:56,479 --> 01:56:03,079
opening it up, stealing stuff, closing it, walking around. There

1894
01:56:03,159 --> 01:56:05,479
was also a bunch of crazy stuff that went on.

1895
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:09,880
It stole hamburgers and it would take you know, the

1896
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:13,439
hamburgers have like that piece of paper that separates them,

1897
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:17,840
so it would eat hamburger drop paper, eat a hamburger

1898
01:56:18,039 --> 01:56:20,840
drop paper. So it left a trail of all these.

1899
01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 3: Square were talking about raw.

1900
01:56:24,199 --> 01:56:28,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was eating raw hamburger. But what they noticed

1901
01:56:28,560 --> 01:56:33,399
was they went to grab the backpack. The next morning,

1902
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:40,640
the grapefruits were gone. So something unzipped the backpack, took

1903
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:45,600
the grapefruits out, and zipped the backpack back closed.

1904
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was definitely raccoons, no joking.

1905
01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:58,039
Speaker 6: So obviously something saw them take their grapefruits and came

1906
01:56:58,079 --> 01:57:02,600
back to get them, follow them to the campground and

1907
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:06,960
took them back and it unzip and reasoned.

1908
01:57:08,359 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 3: Okay, so a lot of people have experienced that. Even

1909
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:14,079
Jeff Meltram had that happen to him. Yeah, he took

1910
01:57:14,119 --> 01:57:17,399
a bunch of oatmeal packs out of his backpack and

1911
01:57:17,439 --> 01:57:22,720
then zipped it back up. M uh and yeah, they

1912
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:27,159
heard something rustling through their their camp and that's all

1913
01:57:27,279 --> 01:57:31,359
his whole meal was gone. It was scaring. Yeah, that's

1914
01:57:31,399 --> 01:57:35,840
kind of weird. Uh. Oh the hum. Everybody keeps asking

1915
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:39,319
have you ever heard the hum? And maybe you don't

1916
01:57:39,359 --> 01:57:41,479
even know what the hell we're talking about. It's kind

1917
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:45,239
of like you have no idea. Okay, So it's like

1918
01:57:45,399 --> 01:57:50,199
kind of a like hummingbird wings, Like you'll hear this

1919
01:57:51,279 --> 01:57:55,000
kind of a wing beat pattern, but you'll hear it

1920
01:57:55,079 --> 01:57:59,479
like in your ear and might itch or it sounds like,

1921
01:57:59,319 --> 01:58:02,359
you don't know, like a bug is just flown by you,

1922
01:58:02,399 --> 01:58:04,039
but no bugs are around you. Do you know what

1923
01:58:04,039 --> 01:58:04,760
I'm talking about?

1924
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:08,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've experienced something like that before, but I just

1925
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:12,560
kind of you blew it off, right, We're thinking there's

1926
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:13,279
something wrong with me.

1927
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you have heard something like.

1928
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 6: That, Yeah, but I haven't. I never thought twice about.

1929
01:58:20,279 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 3: It, which is what we're here. Let me let me

1930
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,119
play one for you.

1931
01:58:26,239 --> 01:58:30,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, why is that a big thing? Oh?

1932
01:58:30,199 --> 01:58:30,600
Speaker 3: Hold on?

1933
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 8: Was just in my head?

1934
01:58:39,079 --> 01:58:44,960
Speaker 3: Hm hmm. And Carl, So we recollected and I think

1935
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:49,600
we're getting close to like ninety now from different researchers

1936
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:53,359
that have recorded it, but they didn't think much of

1937
01:58:53,399 --> 01:58:57,920
it at the time, but much of it is is.

1938
01:59:00,039 --> 01:59:03,039
It's even in history, which is interesting because there's even

1939
01:59:03,119 --> 01:59:05,800
writings about the giants and the old days they talked

1940
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:10,319
with a hum and they called it the zim Zum language.

1941
01:59:10,439 --> 01:59:14,039
And we just keep uncovering more and David Ellis found

1942
01:59:14,079 --> 01:59:16,960
an article from nineteen thirty four of a woman washing

1943
01:59:17,479 --> 01:59:20,840
clothes down at the creek and cheers as Hammond expects

1944
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,439
to see a homingbird. She looks up and it's a

1945
01:59:24,439 --> 01:59:30,199
bigfoot holding an infant. So there's historical records of this

1946
01:59:30,279 --> 01:59:33,720
kind of thing. And it was Tristan or Cayu that

1947
01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:38,840
actually he had a recording of one a tape recorder

1948
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,760
that was put up by him and his mom is

1949
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:45,920
a research project, and it was eating this food they

1950
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:50,079
had left out, and there was this weird hommet almost

1951
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:54,000
like overpowers of the microphone, and I went, whoa, whoa,

1952
01:59:54,079 --> 01:59:58,079
well that's something, I mean, that thing made that sound.

1953
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,920
And then I ended up with Adam and Chris and

1954
02:00:02,039 --> 02:00:06,479
Bud we recorded like hours of it of its Snellgrove

1955
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:09,279
at night, you know, like what.

1956
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 6: And it's only where there where the microphone.

1957
02:00:12,359 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 3: Is no, no, no, this there's I've talked to researchers

1958
02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,039
that they clear they couldn't even see anything, but this

1959
02:00:18,199 --> 02:00:20,960
hum was happening in the woods, but it was making

1960
02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:26,479
their earage like it was really kind of this powerful thing,

1961
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:31,319
and then they felt it and then uh they Adam

1962
02:00:31,399 --> 02:00:36,000
and Chris and Todd just got back from a trip

1963
02:00:36,039 --> 02:00:40,279
where Adam's like, did you hear that talking? And then

1964
02:00:40,319 --> 02:00:42,560
when when they listened to the recording, it was just

1965
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,760
the hum. And so we just got another one from

1966
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,640
those guys. But they're all real similar. But Carl supp

1967
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:53,359
has the loudest and the best one that was recorded

1968
02:00:53,399 --> 02:00:58,359
by at the sales ranch where they were getting VHS

1969
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:03,199
recording of bigfoots, several recordings of bigfoots, and he didn't

1970
02:01:03,359 --> 02:01:05,640
totally was oblivious. He had no idea what was on there.

1971
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:08,680
And when he's on our show, he's playing this VHS

1972
02:01:08,960 --> 02:01:12,079
audio and all of a sudden, there's this that hum,

1973
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,920
and I went, whoa. He had never even took notice

1974
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,479
of it. But it's really loud. So keep your ears

1975
02:01:21,479 --> 02:01:24,319
open for the hum. It may not be a ho

1976
02:01:24,439 --> 02:01:25,279
mean burden.

1977
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 7: And Marie, I'll tell you this from experience sometimes you'll

1978
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:34,000
dismiss it because you will think it's like a motorcycle

1979
02:01:34,039 --> 02:01:36,880
off in the distance or some motor and I had

1980
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:40,119
it happen to me, and that's actually what I thought

1981
02:01:40,119 --> 02:01:42,800
it was. But my son and my wife was like, no,

1982
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:46,199
that's right beside you, and it's really close to the truck.

1983
02:01:46,399 --> 02:01:50,680
So I've heard it, and but I'm harder of hearing,

1984
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:54,119
so I assumed it was something I barely could hear

1985
02:01:54,199 --> 02:01:56,039
way off in the distance and they're like, no, that's

1986
02:01:56,079 --> 02:01:58,880
right beside you. I'm like, okay, so we didn't. We

1987
02:01:58,880 --> 02:02:02,359
weren't recording, so I had forgotten about that till Doug

1988
02:02:02,439 --> 02:02:04,079
showed me some of these tapes.

1989
02:02:04,399 --> 02:02:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think here, and people ask, well,

1990
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:12,720
what other animals per well, one gorillas, do they create

1991
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:17,399
that similar sound? But yeah, I mean, you know, it's

1992
02:02:17,439 --> 02:02:20,479
all this is all unverified, but we're looking for more

1993
02:02:21,039 --> 02:02:24,560
feedback from researchers, so at this point, yeah, it's a

1994
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:28,800
bunch of unverified crap. There you go. Thanks Roger, You're

1995
02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:33,800
right on cue. But it's something to watch for. But

1996
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:37,760
Matt Langford just got back from a thing where he

1997
02:02:38,119 --> 02:02:41,760
played the hum Because I'm hoping people will go out

1998
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:45,239
in the field and play it, and I'm going to

1999
02:02:45,279 --> 02:02:47,960
provide him a longer recording. I'm happy to give you

2000
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,000
one more if you want to try it somewhere. But

2001
02:02:50,079 --> 02:02:55,520
he had action tonight, literally tonight, using it cool. Yeah,

2002
02:02:56,279 --> 02:02:58,159
I hate to say that word action, but you know

2003
02:02:58,199 --> 02:03:01,840
what I mean. Activity he got hit with. I think

2004
02:03:02,439 --> 02:03:08,000
you know that futuresine smell. Have you smelt that before, Maria.

2005
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 6: I've only smelt something once and that was in the

2006
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:21,159
O'calla National Forest. We were investigating a hidden lake area

2007
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:27,239
that was given this guy the creeps, so he wanted

2008
02:03:27,319 --> 02:03:30,560
us to go out there, and it definitely was one

2009
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:33,840
of the strangest places I've been to because you could

2010
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:40,199
hear stuff around us, like moving or falling or whatever,

2011
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:42,640
and there was nothing going on, but it was just

2012
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:49,840
continuously stuff happening around us. So we found some prince

2013
02:03:50,239 --> 02:03:54,840
so we were casting them, so Me, Bob and Ruby.

2014
02:03:56,079 --> 02:03:59,199
It's right by a lake, so somebody left a kayak

2015
02:03:59,239 --> 02:04:02,479
out there and canoe, so we're just sitting on top

2016
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:04,800
of the kayak. We're waiting for the cast, you know,

2017
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:11,039
the plaster to dry, right, and so actually I think

2018
02:04:11,039 --> 02:04:16,039
it was Ruby, Bob and I Ruby smelled it first,

2019
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:20,880
and then Noah's me. It was Ruby, me and Bob.

2020
02:04:21,239 --> 02:04:26,640
So she smelt it, and then a few seconds later

2021
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:30,720
I smelt it. Bob never smelt it, but it just

2022
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:34,039
seemed like it went past us. We've been sitting there

2023
02:04:34,039 --> 02:04:36,880
for forty five minutes. There was no kind of stinky

2024
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:41,760
smell at all, and all of a sudden, she catches

2025
02:04:42,199 --> 02:04:45,000
a whiff of it. I do smell like something dead,

2026
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:48,159
is what it smelt like. And then it was just gone.

2027
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:54,119
It was just there for like three seconds, five seconds tops.

2028
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:58,840
So if there's something dead, you're gonna smell dead right

2029
02:04:58,960 --> 02:05:01,439
the whole time. You're not just going to get a

2030
02:05:01,439 --> 02:05:05,800
little whiff of something dead going walking past you or

2031
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:09,399
you know, being near you. So that was really a

2032
02:05:09,479 --> 02:05:13,479
strange thing that we experience. That's the long time I've

2033
02:05:13,520 --> 02:05:17,880
really smelled anything out there exactly.

2034
02:05:18,159 --> 02:05:21,119
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you've releast smelled it. I've smelled it

2035
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:26,079
quite a few times. My first encounter was mainly with

2036
02:05:26,159 --> 02:05:30,560
a stink and then a chest beating. Wow, have you

2037
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:31,640
ever smelled anything ry?

2038
02:05:32,479 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2039
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, my nephew and I were

2040
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,880
hiking in an area not too far from where I live,

2041
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:44,760
and there was a ravine with a creek going down,

2042
02:05:45,119 --> 02:05:47,399
and then there was deciduous trees with you know, the

2043
02:05:47,479 --> 02:05:51,359
leaves starting to fall. Yeah, and there was this really

2044
02:05:51,479 --> 02:05:52,560
sweet kind of.

2045
02:05:53,279 --> 02:05:55,880
Speaker 3: By the way, right, thanks for adding the word deciduous

2046
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:56,640
for everybody.

2047
02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:01,279
Speaker 9: Oh well, you know it wasn't. Mostly it's pine trees

2048
02:06:01,279 --> 02:06:02,079
out here, you know that.

2049
02:06:02,279 --> 02:06:04,119
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I'm just giving you crap.

2050
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:08,600
Speaker 9: Anyway, crap, this is the home of crap pines.

2051
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 8: And then in the in down by the creek, it

2052
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:12,239
was like, you.

2053
02:06:12,119 --> 02:06:17,720
Speaker 9: Know, willows and deciduous, like maple and stuff. I thought

2054
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:20,640
the smell was because we went from pine into deciduous

2055
02:06:20,680 --> 02:06:23,399
and there was some kind of smell fallen or something,

2056
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:25,039
and it was really kind of sweet.

2057
02:06:25,119 --> 02:06:28,640
Speaker 8: But it was everywhere in the dirt, everywhere, and it.

2058
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:32,239
Speaker 9: Started getting into our clothes. And I heard something in

2059
02:06:32,319 --> 02:06:35,920
the in the creek bottom and I remember sip from

2060
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:39,199
finding Bigfoot in your shows and stuff about the smell.

2061
02:06:39,319 --> 02:06:42,479
So I thought, you know, we probably better exit stage

2062
02:06:42,560 --> 02:06:45,800
left out of this place. So we left. And the

2063
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:51,039
smell was so bad that my nephew's mom.

2064
02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:51,960
Speaker 8: Threw away his clothes.

2065
02:06:52,399 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 9: What yeah, I'm not kidding, and it was so so strong.

2066
02:06:57,159 --> 02:07:02,199
And then I had I had a like a baseball hat,

2067
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,560
so I put it in a premetically sealed it so

2068
02:07:05,600 --> 02:07:09,520
I could keep the smell. And then when when I

2069
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,159
went out looking in an area that had a fairly

2070
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:14,800
a lot of you know, I looked at BFRO and

2071
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:17,319
they had a lot of sightings recorded for that area

2072
02:07:17,319 --> 02:07:20,119
and whatnot, and it was an area with with berries

2073
02:07:20,119 --> 02:07:23,159
and stuff. So I took the I finally broke the

2074
02:07:23,199 --> 02:07:26,159
seal on the fremetically sealed hat and gave it to

2075
02:07:26,199 --> 02:07:29,880
my dogs to smell, and then you know, send them

2076
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:32,399
out on the scent. And sure enough they found a

2077
02:07:32,439 --> 02:07:38,880
structure structure and it apparently had the same scent as

2078
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:39,359
the hat.

2079
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:43,279
Speaker 3: Was it a sickly sweet smell or just pleasant?

2080
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 9: No, it wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't I describe it

2081
02:07:46,960 --> 02:07:50,560
as like sweet, but not in a pleasant way.

2082
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,239
Speaker 8: But but it.

2083
02:07:52,079 --> 02:07:54,960
Speaker 9: Was like a like At first, I didn't think anything

2084
02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:56,720
of it because it was you know, you know, all

2085
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:57,960
the different plants and stuff.

2086
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 8: You thought. But it was then I started noticing it

2087
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:01,319
was in the soil.

2088
02:08:01,439 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 9: You know, when a dog kicks after it goes we

2089
02:08:04,279 --> 02:08:05,680
it kicked the grass up.

2090
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,880
Speaker 8: Well, what it's doing is spreading its scent, you know.

2091
02:08:08,920 --> 02:08:11,039
And if these big foot's got big sweat.

2092
02:08:11,159 --> 02:08:14,680
Speaker 9: Big scent glands, they could they could unleash shavoc on

2093
02:08:14,720 --> 02:08:15,239
your nose.

2094
02:08:17,359 --> 02:08:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my fault. I'm sorry.

2095
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 9: It was gruesome enough where his mom threw away the clothes,

2096
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:28,560
but there was enough of the set left over with

2097
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:33,760
the dogs actually found a structure which I got I

2098
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:35,880
got a video of them actually doing.

2099
02:08:37,720 --> 02:08:40,479
Speaker 11: What kind of structure and how big was it? Was

2100
02:08:40,520 --> 02:08:42,479
it something that something could crawl into?

2101
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 8: Or oh yeah, yeah, it was pretty big. In fact,

2102
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:50,239
it was. There's several kinds of structures that I've seen.

2103
02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:56,680
Speaker 9: One is the branches leaned up against a tree, and

2104
02:08:56,720 --> 02:09:00,479
it's like the teepee post, the center post, and then

2105
02:09:00,479 --> 02:09:02,319
the other branches are set against it.

2106
02:09:03,159 --> 02:09:04,520
Speaker 8: And then there's another kind.

2107
02:09:04,359 --> 02:09:07,119
Speaker 9: That's that's a brush structure that's like a wiki up,

2108
02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:10,239
like a Native American wikiup, where the sticks are stacked

2109
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:10,960
against each other.

2110
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:13,439
Speaker 8: And then there's actually a third time, which is a

2111
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,239
that's just brush stacked up with a hole in it.

2112
02:09:17,279 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 9: And this this was like the wiki up style, branches

2113
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:22,640
stuck stacked up against each other.

2114
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:29,079
Speaker 7: Sorry to do that said something, And.

2115
02:09:30,399 --> 02:09:34,159
Speaker 3: Where are we? Where are we? Acting slap happy? Turned

2116
02:09:34,199 --> 02:09:36,000
into a twelve year old all of a sudden.

2117
02:09:38,079 --> 02:09:42,159
Speaker 9: Oh but I did actually find a big foot turd

2118
02:09:42,199 --> 02:09:42,840
that way too.

2119
02:09:45,279 --> 02:09:49,079
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, it's just this was in.

2120
02:09:52,319 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 3: Roger.

2121
02:09:56,199 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 9: This is this is ung verified crap, but it was

2122
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:04,439
really crap, verified crap, but it was unverified. But the

2123
02:10:04,439 --> 02:10:07,279
thing is is I it was actually the only time

2124
02:10:07,319 --> 02:10:09,880
I ever found a trackway and it was and it

2125
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:13,680
was in Yosemite Valley, in one of the side canyons

2126
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:18,119
in Yosemite Valley called I think a lookout pass.

2127
02:10:17,960 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 8: Or something like that.

2128
02:10:19,159 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 9: Anyway, I went down to the stream and there was

2129
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:25,279
one of those Native American grinding wall rocks where they

2130
02:10:25,319 --> 02:10:28,199
put the mortar and pescos in, and.

2131
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:30,479
Speaker 8: I was looking at the.

2132
02:10:30,399 --> 02:10:32,720
Speaker 9: Mortar and pesco and looked down off the rock and

2133
02:10:32,760 --> 02:10:36,319
there was two big foot prints like this, And underneath

2134
02:10:36,359 --> 02:10:38,560
the two big footprints, right where the heels are, was

2135
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:39,039
a turd.

2136
02:10:39,880 --> 02:10:40,279
Speaker 6: Wow.

2137
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:43,680
Speaker 9: So I would say that was pretty verified, as in

2138
02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:48,520
a turd in context with prints where dropped.

2139
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 3: How do you spell it?

2140
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:52,720
Speaker 8: I didn't hear the grunt, but.

2141
02:10:53,359 --> 02:10:55,479
Speaker 3: Great do you spell it t u r D or

2142
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:56,520
t e r.

2143
02:10:56,560 --> 02:11:01,000
Speaker 6: D whatever your okay?

2144
02:11:01,159 --> 02:11:05,479
Speaker 8: So you did do.

2145
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:07,359
Speaker 6: With the turd, That's why I want to know.

2146
02:11:07,479 --> 02:11:11,159
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was waiting at tempted to bag it up.

2147
02:11:11,159 --> 02:11:13,479
Speaker 9: But it was the first time I'd ever seen any

2148
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:17,359
sasquatch evidence in my life. I never seen anything. This

2149
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:21,079
was like in the nineties or eighties anyway, a long

2150
02:11:21,119 --> 02:11:24,600
time ago, but anyway, it was like the footprints were

2151
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:29,439
like going down a dry stream bed that had granitic sand,

2152
02:11:29,479 --> 02:11:32,760
you know, the sand coming out, and then uh, next

2153
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,319
to that were granite boulders that had the Indian grinding

2154
02:11:35,319 --> 02:11:38,920
stones in it. And then someone had taken one of

2155
02:11:38,960 --> 02:11:41,439
the pestles and put it in the hole in the mortar,

2156
02:11:42,039 --> 02:11:44,800
and I thought that's strange. So I went up and looked,

2157
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:47,199
and someone had been grinding something in it.

2158
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:49,119
Speaker 8: And then I looked down.

2159
02:11:48,960 --> 02:11:52,680
Speaker 9: From there and I'd seen your show and finding bigfoots,

2160
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:56,479
so I thought, no, wait, these look like bigfootprints. And

2161
02:11:56,520 --> 02:11:59,079
then right where the two prints were, right underneath it.

2162
02:11:59,399 --> 02:12:02,840
Speaker 3: Turn now that's.

2163
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 9: Where he took his business man, right there, and his

2164
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:07,000
footprints were there. The only thing is is I really

2165
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:10,319
didn't know much about it, but and and phones didn't

2166
02:12:10,319 --> 02:12:12,840
have cameras on him back then. So I went it

2167
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:17,159
back later with a video camera and videoed it, and

2168
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:19,520
I tried to make a cast, but I didn't know

2169
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:23,119
you used plaster, so I used cement, and so the

2170
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:29,399
substrate was damp. Because the substrate was damp, that they

2171
02:12:29,560 --> 02:12:32,000
footprints eroding or they'd be worth us.

2172
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:35,239
Speaker 8: I could be selling the copies of those.

2173
02:12:35,399 --> 02:12:37,359
Speaker 5: That's awesome, that's awesome things.

2174
02:12:37,680 --> 02:12:39,239
Speaker 9: But I mean it was you could see the whole

2175
02:12:39,279 --> 02:12:42,159
track week going into the brush, and then you could

2176
02:12:42,159 --> 02:12:44,960
see it coming around the grinding rock and right where

2177
02:12:44,960 --> 02:12:47,520
he he almost like went behind the rock to do

2178
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:50,560
his business, like he was shy about, you know, loafing

2179
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:51,279
out or whatever.

2180
02:12:52,239 --> 02:12:55,319
Speaker 7: So so he he definitely stopped. He just didn't keep

2181
02:12:55,359 --> 02:12:56,119
walking into it.

2182
02:12:56,159 --> 02:12:59,760
Speaker 9: No, it wasn't a walking, one stop, walking, squat and

2183
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:00,760
d scenario.

2184
02:13:01,800 --> 02:13:04,560
Speaker 11: And my question is did that give you any kind

2185
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:07,840
of indication of it it's diet.

2186
02:13:09,119 --> 02:13:12,159
Speaker 8: Yeah, actually it really did. Come to think of it.

2187
02:13:12,359 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 9: You know how when you see a bear at certain

2188
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:17,680
times of the year, they'll have all those seeds from

2189
02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:19,359
berries in it.

2190
02:13:19,359 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 8: It had the same type of seeds from berries.

2191
02:13:22,079 --> 02:13:25,000
Speaker 9: And it also had like when you see a coyotes cat,

2192
02:13:25,319 --> 02:13:29,640
it has the hair shape like the turd, right and

2193
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:33,960
so it had it had hair like like like you

2194
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:36,239
would see in a coyote turd, but it also had

2195
02:13:36,279 --> 02:13:38,079
the berries like you'd seeing a bear turd.

2196
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:43,000
Speaker 8: And it was dark like it had consumed like blood meal.

2197
02:13:43,159 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 3: What in what shape was it like? Human shape?

2198
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:48,760
Speaker 8: There were logs, but.

2199
02:13:50,199 --> 02:13:51,560
Speaker 3: Logs bears.

2200
02:13:54,439 --> 02:13:57,359
Speaker 9: They were kind of fattish logs but short log like,

2201
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:04,159
but no, they weren't the same area did have bearscat,

2202
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:08,479
but this was different, and the princes were definitely there

2203
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:11,359
was bear prints there too in that area because it's Yosemite.

2204
02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 3: Well, but there is one time of year that bears

2205
02:14:15,039 --> 02:14:18,239
will like black bears will prey on like fawns in

2206
02:14:18,279 --> 02:14:21,279
the spring, right right, But other than that, they're pretty

2207
02:14:21,359 --> 02:14:22,479
much just you know, bugs.

2208
02:14:22,479 --> 02:14:24,319
Speaker 9: And well, if I wouldn't have found it in context

2209
02:14:24,399 --> 02:14:26,840
with the prince, because I didn't even think bigfoot existed

2210
02:14:26,880 --> 02:14:29,600
until I saw those prints, I would have thought they

2211
02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:32,520
were bear prints. But there was no nails. They were bigger,

2212
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:33,640
they were wider.

2213
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:36,359
Speaker 8: They were longer. I mean, I'd seen your Guys.

2214
02:14:36,199 --> 02:14:39,319
Speaker 9: Shows, so I thought, wow, that's just like those shows,

2215
02:14:40,479 --> 02:14:42,720
because I before that, I just thought it thought it

2216
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:43,079
was like.

2217
02:14:43,039 --> 02:14:45,520
Speaker 8: The Native American mythology.

2218
02:14:46,079 --> 02:14:49,079
Speaker 9: And then I saw the prince and, like Daniel Perez says,

2219
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:56,600
mythology doesn't leave footprints. Mythical beasts don't leave footprints. And

2220
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:58,880
so that's when I thought, oh, my gosh, you know,

2221
02:14:59,239 --> 02:15:01,920
it's like the bub gimlin uh moment.

2222
02:15:02,199 --> 02:15:02,840
Speaker 3: Oh, they do.

2223
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:07,880
Speaker 8: Exist, you know, Yeah, But I didn't. I didn't.

2224
02:15:08,319 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 9: I'm aside from the TV shows, I didn't know anybody

2225
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:14,720
was actually, you know, actually active looking for these.

2226
02:15:15,640 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 3: But after that, so we have to backtrack just for

2227
02:15:18,680 --> 02:15:22,279
a second. How did you cement casting workout for you? Right?

2228
02:15:22,840 --> 02:15:28,039
Speaker 9: Not well, because that was Plaster will actually dry in

2229
02:15:28,119 --> 02:15:30,520
a wet in a damp environment.

2230
02:15:30,039 --> 02:15:33,560
Speaker 8: But cement won't, at least not the cement I had.

2231
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:37,920
Speaker 9: Oh, So I sat and wait, didn't wait it for

2232
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:40,760
it to dry, and it just wouldn't. I went to

2233
02:15:41,159 --> 02:15:44,680
a place called View Lodge that's outside of Yosemite, and

2234
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,520
I went in and they had a barn where they

2235
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:49,239
had like shovels and stuff, and I thought, there's got

2236
02:15:49,239 --> 02:15:51,720
to be something here to cast it with. So I

2237
02:15:51,760 --> 02:15:54,880
stole their bag a cement. So that's basically how I

2238
02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:57,079
got that. But I figured it worked the same as plaster,

2239
02:15:57,199 --> 02:15:57,920
but it didn't.

2240
02:15:58,119 --> 02:15:59,079
Speaker 8: It didn't work at all.

2241
02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 9: I wish it would have because you know, well, thank you.

2242
02:16:05,399 --> 02:16:08,199
Speaker 3: Thank you Rave for all that, because all my stomach hurts.

2243
02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:19,199
Roger still hasn't gathered any composure, have you, Roger? Are

2244
02:16:19,199 --> 02:16:20,479
you composed? Well?

2245
02:16:21,199 --> 02:16:24,359
Speaker 7: I was all right until you started laughing, and I'm.

2246
02:16:24,239 --> 02:16:27,039
Speaker 3: Sorry, Oh my god, I just I don't know. Sometimes

2247
02:16:27,039 --> 02:16:27,920
that just happens.

2248
02:16:28,119 --> 02:16:32,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't really eating, he said, no, no, no, no,

2249
02:16:32,040 --> 02:16:32,440
it wasn't.

2250
02:16:32,479 --> 02:16:34,239
Speaker 3: We just turned into twelve year olds.

2251
02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 8: Oh it's okay. My brain hasn't advanced.

2252
02:16:40,760 --> 02:16:43,280
Speaker 9: I look in the mirror and that old man because

2253
02:16:43,319 --> 02:16:44,280
I still think I'm.

2254
02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:45,120
Speaker 8: Like twelve or thirteen.

2255
02:16:45,799 --> 02:16:48,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, up here, I understand that.

2256
02:16:49,840 --> 02:16:53,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So David, why don't you ask some intelligent questions

2257
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:56,559
since it seemed to be twelve years old?

2258
02:16:57,520 --> 02:17:01,959
Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, yeah, getting even for me throwing you

2259
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:03,120
under the bus earlier.

2260
02:17:03,520 --> 02:17:14,600
Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, So Ray, in terms of America's prehistory, could

2261
02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:22,239
you discuss your theories of species that may have existed

2262
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:25,200
or could have existed, or even still exist, like.

2263
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:27,520
Speaker 5: In terms of.

2264
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:36,200
Speaker 11: Hominids that might have gone feral and they might be

2265
02:17:36,239 --> 02:17:39,239
living in the woods in America. What are your thoughts

2266
02:17:39,239 --> 02:17:43,719
on that? What's the possibility of that hack actually occurring.

2267
02:17:44,280 --> 02:17:45,879
Speaker 3: I just keep your answer under an.

2268
02:17:45,760 --> 02:17:53,440
Speaker 9: Okay reader's digest reader's digest virgin version. Okay, so my

2269
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:58,600
my hypothesis is is that there's there's a Neolithic, which

2270
02:17:58,639 --> 02:18:01,559
is New Stone Age, very advanced looking stone tools like

2271
02:18:01,600 --> 02:18:05,239
bows and arrows, you know, throwing sticks out of little

2272
02:18:05,360 --> 02:18:09,840
darts with finally finally made project doll points.

2273
02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:15,079
Speaker 8: Okay, that's Neolithic. That was Clovis early Native Americans, big

2274
02:18:15,079 --> 02:18:16,159
game hunters.

2275
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:21,280
Speaker 9: But then there was another group that was Paleolithic, which

2276
02:18:21,319 --> 02:18:27,360
means very what we consider crude hand as bulky, you know,

2277
02:18:27,520 --> 02:18:32,200
bulbous type, not as modified stone tools.

2278
02:18:32,239 --> 02:18:33,000
Speaker 8: But they're both.

2279
02:18:33,319 --> 02:18:39,399
Speaker 9: These groups were big game hunters, the big game lifestyle.

2280
02:18:40,680 --> 02:18:45,719
They're mobile, they don't own things, they're constantly following game.

2281
02:18:46,840 --> 02:18:49,120
But they meet up in trade. And this is where

2282
02:18:49,159 --> 02:18:53,879
the Native American oral tradition comes in, where they say

2283
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:58,680
they used to trade with Sasquatch. That is a Neolithic group,

2284
02:18:58,760 --> 02:19:02,680
the Native American, the New Stone Age, the highly developed

2285
02:19:02,680 --> 02:19:07,520
Stone Age, trading with a Paleolithic culture, which is this

2286
02:19:08,079 --> 02:19:12,879
now we call Sasquatch. And like we discussed before, I

2287
02:19:12,879 --> 02:19:18,239
think what happened is the Sasquatch like people came up

2288
02:19:19,639 --> 02:19:24,280
from Europe through what they call the Solutrean hypothesis, which

2289
02:19:24,319 --> 02:19:28,719
means they came up from the Atlantic and went north,

2290
02:19:29,239 --> 02:19:36,239
while the Clovis people or the human Native Americans came

2291
02:19:36,280 --> 02:19:40,639
down from the north from Beringia down the land Bridge

2292
02:19:40,680 --> 02:19:44,319
down through Alaska down along the coast of ice free

2293
02:19:44,399 --> 02:19:49,399
zones during the Paleolithic or during the you know the icy.

2294
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:51,399
Speaker 5: Way, right.

2295
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:53,920
Speaker 9: So I think there was there's probably more than like

2296
02:19:53,959 --> 02:19:56,159
you were saying before, more than two migrations. But I

2297
02:19:56,200 --> 02:20:00,760
think the Paleolithic migration came up this way. The Neolithic

2298
02:20:00,920 --> 02:20:04,280
came down this way into the New World, and they

2299
02:20:04,360 --> 02:20:08,000
hunted all this big game in the ice free zones

2300
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:12,159
and even on the ice and I think that they

2301
02:20:12,200 --> 02:20:13,200
both still exist.

2302
02:20:14,319 --> 02:20:15,879
Speaker 8: And I think that it's like.

2303
02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:19,559
Speaker 9: South America where you're always coming up upon these tribes, right,

2304
02:20:20,079 --> 02:20:22,120
they just discovered Western civilization.

2305
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:23,440
Speaker 8: Just describe it.

2306
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:27,120
Speaker 9: And what I think about the Sasquatch and why they're

2307
02:20:27,920 --> 02:20:31,799
very robust and they have thick hair. And we were

2308
02:20:31,879 --> 02:20:36,760
talking about before the show, the Mongolian mutation thirty thousand

2309
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:42,120
years ago which created modern Asians. You've got thicker black hair,

2310
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:47,079
you've got a very different facial structure. Instead of our

2311
02:20:47,079 --> 02:20:51,239
big long face, we got a a less pronounced face,

2312
02:20:51,879 --> 02:20:55,440
and that was the Mongolian mutation thirty thousand years ago. Well,

2313
02:20:55,479 --> 02:20:59,399
I think there was another mutation that was perfectly adapted

2314
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:06,040
to the ice age. Robust body, anatomy, thick really thick,

2315
02:21:06,159 --> 02:21:10,959
nice hair for the cold, huge jaw, and a saginal

2316
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:13,440
crest for giant muscles in the jaw.

2317
02:21:14,159 --> 02:21:19,360
Speaker 8: But most of these things are in our genetics. It's

2318
02:21:19,479 --> 02:21:19,920
just there.

2319
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:25,239
Speaker 9: They're recessive, and with the sasquatch, they're the same genetics,

2320
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:29,959
but they're dominant. So you got dominant genetics and recessive genes.

2321
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:34,520
Dominant genes, recessive genes. When it was cold and they

2322
02:21:34,600 --> 02:21:39,280
had the megafauna, the mammoth, the giant sloths and stuff,

2323
02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:43,239
we also had giant humans in my opinion, that had

2324
02:21:43,239 --> 02:21:46,520
these dominant traits with us here today we have the

2325
02:21:46,559 --> 02:21:47,639
subdominant traits.

2326
02:21:48,559 --> 02:21:51,399
Speaker 8: You know, we're.

2327
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:53,959
Speaker 9: Smaller, we got lighter hair, we got less hair, we

2328
02:21:54,079 --> 02:22:01,239
got longer legs, shorter arms. But the adaptive strategy that

2329
02:22:01,399 --> 02:22:05,719
nature chose through this mutation, which is it's not a

2330
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:12,239
complete mutation, it's the pulling out of dominant traits for

2331
02:22:12,239 --> 02:22:17,559
for the environment, and that's a second Mongoloid, a second Mongolian,

2332
02:22:18,239 --> 02:22:19,440
A second Mongolian.

2333
02:22:24,159 --> 02:22:25,639
Speaker 8: What were we talking about before.

2334
02:22:25,719 --> 02:22:29,840
Speaker 9: A second mongol A second Mongolian mutation that led to

2335
02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:35,040
a spontaneous evolution, and that it was an adaptation to

2336
02:22:35,079 --> 02:22:38,079
those cold environments. And that's why, and it's partly to

2337
02:22:38,120 --> 02:22:43,559
do with Bergman's law. Uh, these people, these people grew robust,

2338
02:22:44,479 --> 02:22:47,120
you know, like you think a big Neanderthal buff guy.

2339
02:22:48,399 --> 02:22:52,200
Speaker 8: Uh, you know versus the pee wee Herman guy. And

2340
02:22:53,360 --> 02:22:55,319
this is unverified crap. I gotta tell you.

2341
02:22:57,760 --> 02:23:01,520
Speaker 9: The thing about it is is that I thought both

2342
02:23:01,719 --> 02:23:03,319
both these groups still exist.

2343
02:23:04,159 --> 02:23:05,799
Speaker 8: Like the Native American.

2344
02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:08,680
Speaker 9: Would come from Rogers, you think that the fos squatch

2345
02:23:08,719 --> 02:23:11,399
would come from the Paleolithic, from the what they call

2346
02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:14,120
the solutory and hypothesis. And if you look at the

2347
02:23:14,159 --> 02:23:21,040
stone tools, uh from the Solutorian era in France, Uh,

2348
02:23:21,239 --> 02:23:24,959
they match here too. So the the Europeans definitely migrated here,

2349
02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:27,440
maybe even before the Native Americans.

2350
02:23:27,639 --> 02:23:31,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think everyone was here, to be honest with you,

2351
02:23:31,680 --> 02:23:36,239
in our prehistory. But you know, I've looked at some

2352
02:23:36,280 --> 02:23:39,239
of the artifacts you've collected, and I have to say

2353
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:40,120
they are compelling.

2354
02:23:41,559 --> 02:23:42,040
Speaker 5: You know in.

2355
02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:52,639
Speaker 11: Terms of the Julius, Yeah, do you think that what

2356
02:23:52,680 --> 02:23:55,360
do you think that some catastrophe had happened where they

2357
02:23:56,399 --> 02:24:02,239
somehow lost their their civilization, their culture, their language, because obviously,

2358
02:24:02,280 --> 02:24:06,239
you know you had like you have Neanderthals and then

2359
02:24:06,239 --> 02:24:09,440
you have Denisovans. In their brain cases were larger than ours.

2360
02:24:09,680 --> 02:24:13,360
They were intelligent. If you look in Denisova Cave, the

2361
02:24:13,399 --> 02:24:19,680
green bracelet found there definitely shows that they hadzation. Do

2362
02:24:19,760 --> 02:24:22,799
you think that they lost their civilization and maybe even

2363
02:24:22,840 --> 02:24:26,680
lost the ability to make fire, even lost the ability

2364
02:24:27,719 --> 02:24:29,079
even lost their language.

2365
02:24:29,879 --> 02:24:30,639
Speaker 5: What's your opinion?

2366
02:24:32,639 --> 02:24:33,200
Speaker 8: Personally?

2367
02:24:33,239 --> 02:24:39,040
Speaker 9: What I think on that same topic is that Sasquatch

2368
02:24:39,079 --> 02:24:44,040
is the same now as they were ten thousand years ago.

2369
02:24:44,479 --> 02:24:49,559
They've retained all the same hunting technologies, the same mobile

2370
02:24:49,600 --> 02:24:53,760
lifestyle where they follow the fruit sources and they don't

2371
02:24:53,760 --> 02:24:57,000
have any desire. And I talked to Thomas Swett about that.

2372
02:24:57,159 --> 02:25:01,280
Who's the Native American from Vancouver Island. He says, it's

2373
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:05,239
pretty much the same thing. These are hunter gatherers society.

2374
02:25:07,399 --> 02:25:10,840
They the Native Americans split and they got you know,

2375
02:25:10,879 --> 02:25:13,559
they with the arrival of the European horse, they got

2376
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:18,079
the great planes culture and then you have the Sasquatch.

2377
02:25:18,079 --> 02:25:21,760
You retained the paleolithic lifestyle and he's still a hunter

2378
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:24,920
gather and he's and he's still good at hiding because

2379
02:25:24,959 --> 02:25:26,159
he had to develop.

2380
02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:28,920
Speaker 8: Those those traits to hide from.

2381
02:25:28,879 --> 02:25:32,280
Speaker 9: Megafauna and hunt them like the sabertooth cat and whatnot

2382
02:25:32,319 --> 02:25:36,040
and the dire wolf. And they're using that same mentality

2383
02:25:36,079 --> 02:25:39,760
to hide from us, which would be you know, well

2384
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:41,879
learned over thousands of years. And when you go to

2385
02:25:42,280 --> 02:25:44,719
in the military, if you're going to be a sniper

2386
02:25:44,799 --> 02:25:47,799
or something, you loud, you learn those traits. Once you

2387
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:50,760
go to sniper school, you have to to pass. You

2388
02:25:50,799 --> 02:25:56,200
have to sneak up to professional you know, viewers within

2389
02:25:56,239 --> 02:25:59,200
a few feet to just graduate. Even so if they

2390
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:02,159
can do it in a they can learn that technology

2391
02:26:02,159 --> 02:26:04,920
in a couple of months to sneak up on someone

2392
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:09,159
like that, how about thousands of years. So I think

2393
02:26:09,159 --> 02:26:12,079
they're still there and they're still living the same lifestyle and.

2394
02:26:14,079 --> 02:26:15,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, and they've had and.

2395
02:26:15,159 --> 02:26:20,879
Speaker 9: They've developed a multi language adaptations. That's that's my perspective

2396
02:26:20,959 --> 02:26:21,280
of it.

2397
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:22,520
Speaker 5: Interesting, Thank you.

2398
02:26:25,959 --> 02:26:28,760
Speaker 3: What what are what are the main natives that live

2399
02:26:28,840 --> 02:26:38,520
in Florida, Marie, do you know Seminole Indians, Indians. Have

2400
02:26:38,600 --> 02:26:42,440
you ever ran into any Seminole people? Then asked him

2401
02:26:42,479 --> 02:26:43,760
about the skuntcapers and.

2402
02:26:46,520 --> 02:26:50,120
Speaker 6: Response, A lot of the time they don't want to

2403
02:26:50,159 --> 02:26:54,680
talk about it because it's taboo, right, taboo. But I

2404
02:26:54,840 --> 02:27:02,360
have heard stories before. So Betty Alciola, she's you know,

2405
02:27:02,440 --> 02:27:07,840
she's Mikasuki. She's an activist for water for the Everglades,

2406
02:27:07,959 --> 02:27:12,360
water and the wildlife and everything. And I didn't know

2407
02:27:12,520 --> 02:27:15,760
she ever had a skunkke story, but she did. She

2408
02:27:15,799 --> 02:27:19,079
had a skunk cape encounter where she was out in

2409
02:27:19,120 --> 02:27:22,799
the Everglades and in this area where there's nothing but

2410
02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:26,840
these palmetto palms everywhere. And so what the Seminoles of

2411
02:27:26,920 --> 02:27:30,959
Makasuki do is they cut the p the palmetto frogs

2412
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:34,920
off and they make they use it for their roofs

2413
02:27:35,120 --> 02:27:39,200
of their cheeky huts, right, So that's what they use.

2414
02:27:39,840 --> 02:27:45,120
And so here she's chopping these, you know, palm frogs,

2415
02:27:45,879 --> 02:27:48,680
and there's a skunkke right on the other side of

2416
02:27:48,719 --> 02:27:53,159
the one she's chopping. Wow, So she just stopped and

2417
02:27:53,319 --> 02:27:57,200
she's looking at it, and it looked at her, and

2418
02:27:57,239 --> 02:27:59,319
then it just walked away.

2419
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:03,760
Speaker 9: They call it stap khaki or something like that, something

2420
02:28:03,840 --> 02:28:05,159
like that, mity kap khaki.

2421
02:28:05,399 --> 02:28:07,159
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't. I don't know how to pronounce it.

2422
02:28:07,440 --> 02:28:08,319
Speaker 8: I wonder what that means.

2423
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:11,879
Speaker 6: It means tall, hairy, giant.

2424
02:28:14,239 --> 02:28:19,200
Speaker 3: Coincidence, right, Yeah, it's just coincidence, unverified coincidence.

2425
02:28:19,319 --> 02:28:27,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the Seminoles, there's been some of the Seminole elders,

2426
02:28:27,319 --> 02:28:31,799
the medicine people and medicinemen that have seen They have

2427
02:28:31,920 --> 02:28:37,319
a reservation that's around the Green Swamp also, and it's

2428
02:28:37,319 --> 02:28:43,280
a beautiful sub beautiful reservation, beautiful houses and stuff. And

2429
02:28:43,399 --> 02:28:47,440
so when they were building it, it's right on the

2430
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:50,639
edge of the green swamp. They're driving around in their

2431
02:28:50,719 --> 02:28:53,680
little golf carts to watch, you know, to look at

2432
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:57,360
the construction progress and stuff. And they had a tree

2433
02:28:57,440 --> 02:29:00,479
come flying out and land right in front of their

2434
02:29:00,479 --> 02:29:06,319
golf carts out of the woods of the swamp. What

2435
02:29:06,360 --> 02:29:11,360
does that? What throws a tree at you? So there

2436
02:29:11,399 --> 02:29:14,479
are stories, they do have stories, but you have to really,

2437
02:29:16,399 --> 02:29:19,479
they have to really trust you. Yeah, yeah, because they

2438
02:29:19,719 --> 02:29:22,559
they're very taboo. They don't talk, they don't want to

2439
02:29:22,600 --> 02:29:26,000
talk about it. They see it as super being superstitious.

2440
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:29,000
They're very superstitious people. And they think it's bad luck

2441
02:29:29,440 --> 02:29:32,760
to talk about them, right, so they normally won't, but

2442
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:36,879
once you get to know them, then they'll start opening up.

2443
02:29:36,959 --> 02:29:41,360
Speaker 3: Because any of them just clearly stated that this creature

2444
02:29:41,479 --> 02:29:43,719
is part of their oral history.

2445
02:29:44,319 --> 02:29:48,319
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely is the oral history. It

2446
02:29:48,319 --> 02:29:54,680
goes back forever. They always talk about them Thanksgiving two

2447
02:29:54,719 --> 02:29:59,600
years ago. The natives and a lot of spiritual people,

2448
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:03,000
but the na natives especially, like when they're making a meal,

2449
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:06,319
they'll make a plate, an extra plate, and they'll put

2450
02:30:06,360 --> 02:30:09,399
it out in the woods right for the for the

2451
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:12,680
forest people, for the spirits, for the animals or whatever.

2452
02:30:13,520 --> 02:30:18,200
So just think of Thanksgiving on their reservation. All these

2453
02:30:18,959 --> 02:30:23,000
natives are putting their lift over Thanksgiving dinner and stuff

2454
02:30:23,239 --> 02:30:27,399
out behind their house. So as Seminole that I know,

2455
02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:31,159
he went outside to go around the back to get

2456
02:30:31,159 --> 02:30:34,040
a shovel because he needed it for the next day,

2457
02:30:34,879 --> 02:30:41,479
and he spooked a bigfoot. He was eating the plate

2458
02:30:41,520 --> 02:30:45,680
of food that was behind their house, and he spooked

2459
02:30:45,719 --> 02:30:51,239
and scared him and it took off running. But you know,

2460
02:30:51,360 --> 02:30:52,760
they do have their stories.

2461
02:30:54,239 --> 02:30:56,760
Speaker 3: Speaking of native stories, we're talking about the home. I

2462
02:30:56,799 --> 02:31:01,280
forgot to mention, so we had natives that had mentioned

2463
02:31:01,319 --> 02:31:05,440
that they would hear the hum and then they would

2464
02:31:05,479 --> 02:31:08,280
put food out they knew they were coming, really, they

2465
02:31:08,319 --> 02:31:12,920
would put food out. Yeah, I'm like, well he was that.

2466
02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:16,959
We had a guest on Marie that he was a

2467
02:31:17,079 --> 02:31:21,719
kid and he would hear this hum and then he

2468
02:31:21,799 --> 02:31:24,360
always knew that this bigfoot would come to his window

2469
02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:29,120
at night and look in and his dog never reacted bad,

2470
02:31:29,360 --> 02:31:33,360
like his dog just was totally at peace, and this

2471
02:31:33,719 --> 02:31:36,600
thing would just look through his window and it would

2472
02:31:36,600 --> 02:31:40,799
happen night after night, and his parents thought he was crazy,

2473
02:31:40,799 --> 02:31:43,120
you know, they didn't believe him. And he would hear

2474
02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:45,559
always a hum before this thing would approach.

2475
02:31:46,680 --> 02:31:50,719
Speaker 13: Yeah, you did if it was a juvenile or a

2476
02:31:50,760 --> 02:31:54,440
younger one that looked like a female that was looking

2477
02:31:54,479 --> 02:31:59,600
through his window and had feminine characteristics in its face.

2478
02:32:01,200 --> 02:32:04,159
Speaker 3: So I've just asked. Such an interesting story we had

2479
02:32:04,239 --> 02:32:08,719
them on. It was like, I can't remember how long ago.

2480
02:32:08,959 --> 02:32:13,399
It was probably about only six episodes back, so you

2481
02:32:13,399 --> 02:32:18,680
can check for that. It's an amazing story. Yeah, I

2482
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:20,879
don't know. I don't know where all you guys are

2483
02:32:20,920 --> 02:32:24,079
at with time. It's nine. We should probably wrap it up,

2484
02:32:25,360 --> 02:32:29,360
unless you guys have things you want to talk about

2485
02:32:29,440 --> 02:32:32,600
And Marie, do you want to tell us where people

2486
02:32:32,639 --> 02:32:35,319
can get a hold of you or view your research.

2487
02:32:36,079 --> 02:32:42,280
Speaker 6: Sure. I'm the founder and lead investigator on the Mid

2488
02:32:42,319 --> 02:32:46,079
Florida Bigfoot Research Group. I have over twelve thousand people

2489
02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:50,760
in my group. Wow, and probably sixty seventy percent of

2490
02:32:50,799 --> 02:32:54,440
that are all Floridians. And that's what I wanted. I

2491
02:32:54,520 --> 02:32:58,399
wanted a group of Florida researchers because I want to

2492
02:32:58,440 --> 02:33:01,520
see what everybody's finding, and I want to tell everybody

2493
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:05,239
what I'm finding, you know, because people don't think we

2494
02:33:05,319 --> 02:33:09,479
have bigfoots in Florida even nowadays. They still just think

2495
02:33:09,520 --> 02:33:12,959
and they're in the Pacific Northwest and that's it, and

2496
02:33:13,000 --> 02:33:16,159
they think Florida is just a giant beach with Disney World.

2497
02:33:16,479 --> 02:33:20,000
You know. It's like, no, we do have forests. Fifty

2498
02:33:20,600 --> 02:33:24,520
of our state is covered in forests, so we do

2499
02:33:24,600 --> 02:33:26,559
have plenty of places for them to hide.

2500
02:33:26,799 --> 02:33:30,360
Speaker 3: Oh god, yes, yeah, and so much your forest is

2501
02:33:31,280 --> 02:33:33,280
like so thick you can't even get through it.

2502
02:33:33,639 --> 02:33:37,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. But so Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group

2503
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:42,079
on Facebook, on Instagram, and I have a YouTube channel

2504
02:33:42,639 --> 02:33:46,760
and I have a website, Mid Florida mid Florida Bigfoot

2505
02:33:46,799 --> 02:33:47,639
dot Com.

2506
02:33:48,079 --> 02:33:52,600
Speaker 3: I heard my first woodknock in Florida. What in swamp?

2507
02:33:52,639 --> 02:33:59,280
I was with Matt Moneymaker, Oh, North Florida. Yeah, it

2508
02:33:59,319 --> 02:34:03,159
was the Penicola area and that's where I heard my

2509
02:34:03,479 --> 02:34:07,799
first clear would not get three in the morning. Yeah,

2510
02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:10,120
in response to one that we had made. You know,

2511
02:34:10,239 --> 02:34:13,360
Matt's got that little stick thing he's got and it

2512
02:34:13,520 --> 02:34:14,440
kind of echoes.

2513
02:34:14,879 --> 02:34:15,079
Speaker 6: Yeh.

2514
02:34:15,399 --> 02:34:17,719
Speaker 3: He had that with him and he banged it and

2515
02:34:17,799 --> 02:34:21,360
we got a response from quite a ways away, but

2516
02:34:21,479 --> 02:34:24,559
it was loud and ever sound. It was my first

2517
02:34:24,559 --> 02:34:25,520
wood knock ever heard.

2518
02:34:25,959 --> 02:34:30,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was camping. I was with team member Bob.

2519
02:34:30,840 --> 02:34:34,680
We were camping in this little tiny campground in the

2520
02:34:34,719 --> 02:34:40,040
green swamp. Set out some recorders and sure enough there

2521
02:34:40,040 --> 02:34:45,479
were nine recordings and you could hear something walking through.

2522
02:34:46,440 --> 02:34:49,120
The first couple kind of sounds like a deer, like

2523
02:34:49,200 --> 02:34:53,280
something goes up to the recorder and sniffs it, you know.

2524
02:34:55,120 --> 02:34:58,000
But there were a couple of recordings that it sounded

2525
02:34:58,360 --> 02:35:03,040
more bipedal, something thing walking through. We heard wood knocks.

2526
02:35:03,280 --> 02:35:09,239
We captured wood knocks on the recorder and we had

2527
02:35:09,600 --> 02:35:14,719
another orange sitting on a log behind our tent and

2528
02:35:14,760 --> 02:35:19,799
it was taken and we couldn't find any remnants of

2529
02:35:19,840 --> 02:35:22,760
the orange, like maybe a raccoon took it and you know,

2530
02:35:23,120 --> 02:35:26,639
went off from the bushes and tore it apart. No, gone,

2531
02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:29,120
but it was another orange. I was on a log.

2532
02:35:30,280 --> 02:35:35,719
But recordings are cool. They're extremely clear and loud. You know,

2533
02:35:35,799 --> 02:35:37,879
it's not like you have to stream to hear them.

2534
02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:42,159
So it turned out really good. But that clear knock bam,

2535
02:35:42,639 --> 02:35:44,879
you know, right near where the recorder was.

2536
02:35:45,280 --> 02:35:47,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, Maria, would you write Jeff

2537
02:35:47,600 --> 02:35:52,399
a nasty letter and yell at them we're not giving

2538
02:35:52,440 --> 02:35:54,719
me your pictures?

2539
02:35:54,760 --> 02:35:58,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, dang it, I'm gonna Yeah, there's some

2540
02:35:58,200 --> 02:36:00,840
good pictures there. I wanted to show you all those

2541
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:03,920
weavings and the grass.

2542
02:36:03,959 --> 02:36:07,120
Speaker 3: Well, we'll just have to have you back and we'll

2543
02:36:07,239 --> 02:36:11,440
do that and we'll have the whole slide show and

2544
02:36:11,559 --> 02:36:13,799
you will give me the show all to yourself, and

2545
02:36:13,879 --> 02:36:16,319
we'll just look at all your cool evidence.

2546
02:36:16,479 --> 02:36:20,639
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but I apologize structures and yeah, all kinds

2547
02:36:20,719 --> 02:36:22,680
of the standing square structures.

2548
02:36:23,239 --> 02:36:29,559
Speaker 3: Yeah. So do you find those structures near trails like

2549
02:36:29,639 --> 02:36:33,959
by footpaths or like deer trails which one stand any

2550
02:36:34,040 --> 02:36:36,600
kind of structures in Florida. I often find them here

2551
02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:38,280
in Minnesota buy deer trails.

2552
02:36:40,000 --> 02:36:49,239
Speaker 6: Well, the weavings, those thirteen weavings, there's also I've never

2553
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:53,360
seen so many deer rubs before in that area. Also,

2554
02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:59,440
they're like very they're close to them, and I felt

2555
02:36:59,559 --> 02:37:05,639
So there's thirteen weavings so far, we found eighteen rubs

2556
02:37:05,639 --> 02:37:08,360
deer rubs. That's a lot. And we're only talking like

2557
02:37:09,440 --> 02:37:12,959
a quarter of a mile, you know, not that big

2558
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:17,520
of an area. But it does create a path. I

2559
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:22,159
GPS I marked every single one of those weavings to

2560
02:37:22,280 --> 02:37:26,200
see if there was a trail, and sure enough it did.

2561
02:37:27,040 --> 02:37:31,239
But right next to all those our deer rubs.

2562
02:37:32,280 --> 02:37:37,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, those those things must

2563
02:37:37,479 --> 02:37:41,040
have some purpose. I always think they're like blinds or

2564
02:37:41,079 --> 02:37:41,840
deer blinds.

2565
02:37:42,159 --> 02:37:47,920
Speaker 6: I remember, this is an area that's typically underwater. Oh right,

2566
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:52,040
because it's a dried up swamp. Oh it's full of water.

2567
02:37:52,479 --> 02:37:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they I mean, this is our current structures

2568
02:37:55,479 --> 02:37:56,559
that they just put up.

2569
02:37:56,600 --> 02:38:01,440
Speaker 6: Then, yes, we started finding them and uh October.

2570
02:38:03,559 --> 02:38:07,559
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I want to ask question from Kyue says,

2571
02:38:08,440 --> 02:38:13,399
does Marie thinks swamp apes live underground in caverns or

2572
02:38:13,440 --> 02:38:14,040
in the water.

2573
02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:18,959
Speaker 6: Well, David Chili believes that they do. I don't. I

2574
02:38:19,040 --> 02:38:22,760
think they're up in trees, okay, which could be, you know,

2575
02:38:23,520 --> 02:38:29,360
but gators also make holes. There's gator holes right at

2576
02:38:29,360 --> 02:38:34,040
the water line, whole caves that they'll go into. So

2577
02:38:34,079 --> 02:38:36,360
it could be a perfect place if it's a big

2578
02:38:36,479 --> 02:38:41,799
enough area, oh, that they can easily get in there.

2579
02:38:42,200 --> 02:38:44,000
They could be in the shade, they could be in

2580
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:47,639
the cool water, and they can just still sit there

2581
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:52,239
and you know, just cool off and watch what's going on.

2582
02:38:54,280 --> 02:38:58,239
So David Chili believes that he thinks that that's what

2583
02:38:58,280 --> 02:38:58,680
they do.

2584
02:38:59,000 --> 02:39:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we don't know.

2585
02:39:01,440 --> 02:39:03,479
Speaker 6: We don't know.

2586
02:39:02,959 --> 02:39:07,120
Speaker 3: We don't know what. We don't even know. Roger doesn't

2587
02:39:07,159 --> 02:39:08,959
know what. We don't know. I don't know what we

2588
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:12,440
don't know. David doesn't know, we don't know. And definitely

2589
02:39:12,559 --> 02:39:18,319
Ray doesn't know anything about cement plaster. He does now,

2590
02:39:18,879 --> 02:39:24,040
Yeah right, I'm joking. Thank you so much, Ray, You're

2591
02:39:24,079 --> 02:39:27,000
always you always have really interesting observations.

2592
02:39:29,159 --> 02:39:31,680
Speaker 8: I'm definitely putting out some chocolate after hearing your.

2593
02:39:33,520 --> 02:39:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good idea. Oh my god, I'll send

2594
02:39:40,440 --> 02:39:41,719
you that recording. Ray.

2595
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:42,959
Speaker 8: That's pretty cool.

2596
02:39:43,159 --> 02:39:46,479
Speaker 3: I'll send it to you and then you can you

2597
02:39:46,520 --> 02:39:51,799
can see if you can change it in your mind down. Yeah,

2598
02:39:51,920 --> 02:39:54,079
David Ellis has done a ton of work on it,

2599
02:39:55,000 --> 02:40:00,639
and it gets more and more interesting because he and

2600
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:06,319
almost sounds like there's two things talking too, creatures. Really Yeah,

2601
02:40:06,360 --> 02:40:09,559
when you slow it down, you know, they talk so

2602
02:40:09,799 --> 02:40:14,000
quick and they can do amazing you know, high frequency,

2603
02:40:14,159 --> 02:40:16,879
low frequency, so quick and yeah, and he's kind of

2604
02:40:17,360 --> 02:40:18,840
thinking that's two of them.

2605
02:40:19,680 --> 02:40:25,280
Speaker 9: Because Jeff Meldrum said I talked to him at the

2606
02:40:25,319 --> 02:40:27,120
Yakama thing and he said he thought they might have

2607
02:40:27,159 --> 02:40:28,159
two voice boxes.

2608
02:40:31,440 --> 02:40:34,639
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Okay, speaking of that, I interviewed a

2609
02:40:34,799 --> 02:40:38,639
CEO of a very large, largest guys, a large corporation.

2610
02:40:39,399 --> 02:40:42,799
I'm not going to tell you what what corporation it was,

2611
02:40:43,520 --> 02:40:46,159
but we put a level or mic on you. I mean,

2612
02:40:46,200 --> 02:40:49,159
it's going to answer Mike and interviewing him, and I

2613
02:40:49,200 --> 02:40:52,120
got my headphones on and I'm freaking out because everything

2614
02:40:52,200 --> 02:40:55,440
would say something, you would answer my question. You can

2615
02:40:55,520 --> 02:41:01,120
hear this little voice like inside them talking what And

2616
02:41:01,520 --> 02:41:04,280
when my camera guy looks at me and he's like

2617
02:41:04,360 --> 02:41:06,959
what you know, He's like, what the hole's going on?

2618
02:41:08,959 --> 02:41:11,840
You know? And this guy is like it was really

2619
02:41:11,840 --> 02:41:13,879
hard to get an interview with him. You know, he's

2620
02:41:13,959 --> 02:41:16,760
kind of like a somebody would think that would never

2621
02:41:16,840 --> 02:41:21,399
grant you an interview, but he did. And I was

2622
02:41:21,440 --> 02:41:26,600
doing some security work for their corporation and Eddie. Long

2623
02:41:26,680 --> 02:41:29,239
story short, it freaked us out. And you could it

2624
02:41:29,399 --> 02:41:34,239
recorded it this little voice talking. What was it saying,

2625
02:41:35,600 --> 02:41:39,479
I don't want doctor. It was creepy, like a little

2626
02:41:39,559 --> 02:41:42,440
voice like you would pick up like he would answer,

2627
02:41:42,440 --> 02:41:45,639
and then this little voice would be telling him things,

2628
02:41:46,559 --> 02:41:49,799
but his mouth wasn't moving when that other voice was talking.

2629
02:41:50,280 --> 02:41:53,360
And sometimes they would talk at the same time. It

2630
02:41:53,520 --> 02:41:56,959
was really unnerving to have headphones on and try to

2631
02:41:57,040 --> 02:42:03,559
keep a straight face and interview this guy. Yeah something

2632
02:42:03,600 --> 02:42:05,600
I've ever told that story, But the guy that I

2633
02:42:05,680 --> 02:42:07,559
was with you remembers that because me and him have

2634
02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:11,319
talked about it. It's like I remember that little voice

2635
02:42:11,360 --> 02:42:13,639
and that guy and we're like, yeah, it was weird.

2636
02:42:13,799 --> 02:42:16,879
Speaker 6: I've captured We've captured things like that on a record

2637
02:42:17,639 --> 02:42:23,600
where I'm talking and then you hear EVP. Like we

2638
02:42:23,639 --> 02:42:28,000
were walking down this path in the Everglades and for

2639
02:42:28,079 --> 02:42:30,959
some reason I kind of zoned out and I couldn't

2640
02:42:31,079 --> 02:42:35,520
think of the word deer call. Yeah, and so I

2641
02:42:35,559 --> 02:42:41,920
was like, evp here, dear call, and then I say,

2642
02:42:42,040 --> 02:42:47,600
deer call. It's so weird, but it's all recorded that way.

2643
02:42:47,879 --> 02:42:51,479
It's so bizarre. But that happened.

2644
02:42:51,959 --> 02:42:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, maybe that guy that I interviewed just had

2645
02:42:54,399 --> 02:42:57,639
two voice boxes, or maybe it's some kind of little

2646
02:42:57,879 --> 02:43:01,040
something inside them. You know what that was a plankton

2647
02:43:01,559 --> 02:43:05,479
seen plankton. Yeah, maybe you had a little plankton inside

2648
02:43:05,520 --> 02:43:09,719
of them. I don't know, and knows. I don't know.

2649
02:43:10,319 --> 02:43:13,840
So any last words, Roger Dave No.

2650
02:43:14,159 --> 02:43:16,639
Speaker 7: I just nice to meet everybody. I appreciate you how

2651
02:43:16,760 --> 02:43:19,680
asking me to come home and very everybody did great.

2652
02:43:19,840 --> 02:43:20,879
I learned a lot tonight.

2653
02:43:21,280 --> 02:43:23,799
Speaker 3: Thank you you guys as well.

2654
02:43:24,280 --> 02:43:29,959
Speaker 11: It's it just goes like that.

2655
02:43:30,040 --> 02:43:32,879
Speaker 3: Sometimes it happens, even me. Don't feel bad, man.

2656
02:43:33,399 --> 02:43:36,680
Speaker 11: Uh and and yeah, your microphone did blow up that time.

2657
02:43:37,879 --> 02:43:38,840
Speaker 5: How does that happen?

2658
02:43:41,559 --> 02:43:45,040
Speaker 3: It's just you know, and always and it comes at

2659
02:43:45,040 --> 02:43:47,639
the wrong time, and you know, I'm sure everything worked

2660
02:43:47,680 --> 02:43:49,079
this afternoon.

2661
02:43:48,559 --> 02:43:50,399
Speaker 5: And then strangeness.

2662
02:43:50,600 --> 02:43:52,959
Speaker 3: It's it is. It is weird, but don't feel bad

2663
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:55,879
when it happens because it's gotten all of us big time.

2664
02:43:56,879 --> 02:43:57,719
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.

2665
02:43:57,920 --> 02:44:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, aciate you coming in. We'll have you back. And Roger,

2666
02:44:01,879 --> 02:44:04,440
thank you so much, and Marie, thank you so much.

2667
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:09,479
And Ray, thank you so so very much.

2668
02:44:10,520 --> 02:44:12,760
Speaker 8: Lots of lots of unverified crap.

2669
02:44:14,559 --> 02:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Thank you for reminding us.

2670
02:44:16,399 --> 02:44:19,159
Speaker 7: And he's more professional than Doug and I because we

2671
02:44:19,239 --> 02:44:23,920
lost it and that was very apologize.

2672
02:44:23,000 --> 02:44:28,079
Speaker 3: Me too, it was extremely unprofessional. Anyhow, back next week.

2673
02:44:28,120 --> 02:44:30,920
We'll be back to normal. We'll have our normal pre

2674
02:44:31,079 --> 02:44:34,200
show tech breakdown, all sorts of stuff. I just thought

2675
02:44:34,239 --> 02:44:35,360
we'd just make it simple.

2676
02:44:35,399 --> 02:44:39,239
Speaker 7: And Roger tonight, I'm all for simple.

2677
02:44:39,719 --> 02:44:40,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.

2678
02:44:41,319 --> 02:44:44,079
Speaker 3: Lots to go wrong, so we're not doing our wisdom

2679
02:44:44,120 --> 02:44:47,360
or nothing tonight, but the best wisdom I can give you.

2680
02:44:47,520 --> 02:44:50,000
Just keep watching our show. We'll be back next Sunday.

2681
02:44:50,239 --> 02:44:55,040
Good night, everybody, Thank you. Good night.

2682
02:44:55,079 --> 02:44:58,360
Speaker 7: Guys. I call you up.

2683
02:45:00,520 --> 02:45:05,319
Speaker 2: Can bothered by dreams and feeling all day. You give

2684
02:45:05,440 --> 02:45:08,520
me comfort, say just give it some time. By the

2685
02:45:08,639 --> 02:45:12,799
end of our talk and feeling just fine, you and

2686
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:14,239
I will always know.

2687
02:45:15,079 --> 02:45:22,120
Speaker 3: Will we be long? This sing no ordinary ism?

2688
02:45:22,440 --> 02:45:24,200
Speaker 6: We got go in all.

2689
02:45:28,319 --> 02:45:31,760
Speaker 2: I pick you up in the fifteen hour fort We

2690
02:45:31,959 --> 02:45:35,120
hit on down the road until we care for it.

2691
02:45:36,200 --> 02:45:38,879
Speaker 5: Just doing in the sun and blowing.

2692
02:45:39,280 --> 02:45:40,760
Speaker 3: If the eracious.

2693
02:45:40,200 --> 02:45:45,200
Speaker 7: Stop all able head on home again. Everybody else can't

2694
02:45:45,319 --> 02:45:46,719
see where.

2695
02:45:46,600 --> 02:45:47,920
Speaker 8: We be long.

2696
02:45:51,440 --> 02:45:57,600
Speaker 9: In no ordinary ism we got go in all.

2697
02:45:57,840 --> 02:46:03,319
Speaker 2: At the end of the world together forever one and alway,

2698
02:46:03,920 --> 02:46:05,719
if ever you should be.

2699
02:46:05,840 --> 02:46:07,239
Speaker 4: Endowed in our way.

2700
02:46:07,799 --> 02:46:14,200
Speaker 9: They never compose a part in allway all the time.

2701
02:46:14,399 --> 02:46:20,000
Speaker 2: It would made together every day, but though if ever

2702
02:46:20,479 --> 02:46:22,079
would be less straight.

2703
02:46:22,440 --> 02:46:24,840
Speaker 9: Up on allway back home.

2704
02:46:25,959 --> 02:46:49,079
Speaker 2: Walkay at the end of the world together forever small

2705
02:46:49,319 --> 02:46:51,200
as alway, if.

2706
02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:54,079
Speaker 11: Ever you should be endowed or comprey.

2707
02:46:54,639 --> 02:46:57,239
Speaker 3: They never compose a part.

2708
02:46:57,120 --> 02:47:03,879
Speaker 2: In lorway, but the end of the world together forever

2709
02:47:04,159 --> 02:47:06,319
it's fond and holloway.

2710
02:47:06,319 --> 02:47:09,799
Speaker 5: It never you should be endowed in albrade.

2711
02:47:10,239 --> 02:47:12,319
Speaker 8: They never can prose.

2712
02:47:12,000 --> 02:47:13,959
Speaker 6: A part in all away.

2713
02:47:15,840 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 2: All the time, and we've been together, we never recame a.

2714
02:47:20,760 --> 02:47:24,440
Speaker 3: Find though it never would be less straight and

2715
02:47:24,680 --> 02:47:29,040
Speaker 11: All fay bad go to Jorgain