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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely Can't Be Serious Podcast,

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discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten of eighties

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and nineties pop culture with your co hosts James D.

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Graves and Jason Colbn.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back for part two of the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Here's a quick recap in last week's episode, let's just.

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Speaker 2: Dive in, and so we got to jump right in.

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We're going to talk about airplane. Wait, wait before we

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get every time to d Yes, good luck all kind.

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Speaker 3: They used to leave the BCR on recording overnight and

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they accidentally recorded Zero Hour and this is we could

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really turn this into something funny.

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Speaker 2: Some of the lines are identical, and they were fascinated

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by this weird movie. They decided we're going to buy

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the rights to.

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Speaker 3: The script first.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, avoid the trouble, and it couldn't have been

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that expensive. One of their first choices for Ted Striker

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was David Letterman. They were so excited and he was like,

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this is a bad idea. And then when they were down,

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they're like, you're right, this was a bad idea. She's

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performing that song really well, and that in combination with

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the girl who's making the fish face because their ivs

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come out. Is brilliant. It is the brilliance of the

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comedy of his easy. Almost every line in this thing

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is perfect. It's one of the most quotable movies of

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all time.

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Speaker 3: So don't want to help.

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Speaker 2: So can you imagine delivering to a child actor the

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line have you ever seen a grown man naked? With

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absolutely sincerity? How do you do that? You've got nineteen

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eighties PG ratings which feature boobies.

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Speaker 3: And man, I can tell you a story about the

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movies in air.

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Speaker 2: Those specific movies, those particular Yeah, tell me, tell me

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the movie story.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this was a movie I watched young because

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my dad thought it was funny, but he was trying

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to keep me from seeing. There's one scene where a

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woman is wearing no shirt and shoe just walks directly

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front of the camera and then walks off screen. And

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that's it, right, right, So basically you have half a

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second it's just out of nowhere boobs and then they're gone, right,

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And so he was trying to watch this movie with me, Yes,

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protect me, protect my eyes from well, you've got to

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you've got to know exactly or it's they're there and

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then gone and then it's over. Yeah, and it wasn't best.

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And so that was my first on screen flash of skin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah really like the first time you ever saw naked

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boobies on TV?

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Speaker 3: Yeah wow yeah, yeah, nice this especially.

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Speaker 2: All right, now it's time to jump into Spaceball one

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and travel at ludicrous speed, so we can warp ahead

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in time to nineteen eighty seven when Spaceballs was released.

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Speaker 1: Ah.

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Speaker 2: Some people call me space Alboy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, some call me the game Grip.

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Speaker 4: Some people call me marrie'd be of the.

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Speaker 2: Puppy Spaceballs one of mel Brooks's wonderful parodies that he

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has done. But first, let's talk about what was going

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on in nineteen eighty seven. Help us remember what what

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we were doing, what we were going through back. Then

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we'll do our rapid fire again sound again, Yeah, first

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or second, I'll go first, Okay, you go first.

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Speaker 3: So this is just current events from nineteen eighty seven

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to kind of give you a place in a moment

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in time, right right, So, Ronald Reagan addresses the Iran

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contra affair.

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Speaker 2: Yes, do you remember that? Yes? Yeah, we had the

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whole Ali North thing going on. Yep, it was all

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very bad. It looked like Reagan either had lied or

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didn't know what was going on, and basically said he

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didn't know what was going on, right, And people loved

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him so much that it didn't matter. They forgave him right.

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kind of cement his place in history, he said to

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mister Korbachev, tear down this wall. Mister Gorbachev teared down

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Speaker 3: Huge speech and one that sticks with us.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, mister John teared down as well. Two years

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later it came down. I don't know if you know this,

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but like the speech writer had, you know, had given

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him the speech. They kind of talked about it, and

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the speech writer thought, you know, that's kind of cliche

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and corny. I'm gonna take that out and regularly at

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it's like putting that back in. Yep, it was his call.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome. Here's one listen this one. I don't know

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why this one sticks with me, but when Jim Baker

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Speaker 2: It sticks with you because she appeared in some magazines

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that she probably looked.

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Speaker 3: At and the Wild thing video with Sam Kinison.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and all of the other heavy metal rockers of

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Speaker 3: I thank you move that came in my mind.

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Speaker 3: Line she look like a church secretary to I can

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Speaker 2: That one anyway. Yeah, and another on the on the

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televangelist thing. Uh, the Supreme Court case of Hustler Magazine

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versus Jerry Faultwell happened that year, which is the large

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part of the People Versus Very Larry Flint movie that

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shocking event was that the Pennsylvania Treasurer, Bud Dwyer, had

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been like convicted of doing these crimes, and he had

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proclaimed his innocence the whole time, and he called a

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press press conference and then shot himself on live television. Yeah.

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So there's And then again a decade or so later,

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the song by Filter comes out, Hey man, I shot

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A lot of people thought it was Kirk Cobain that

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they were talking about. Because it was not too long

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after Kirk Cobain's suicide. But actually he was talking about

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by Dwyer and that was his Hey man, I shot

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was what it was all about. Wow, disturbing that.

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Speaker 3: That's why I say, all right, how about this one?

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This one gets me at the heart. Baby Jessica McClure

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falls down the well.

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Speaker 2: I knew you would have. I knew you would have.

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Speaker 3: If you've listened to our podcast. And if we're staying

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in order, we do.

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Speaker 2: What Michael Jackson was first, right, yes, so so yes,

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you're I remember how moved you were by the man

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in the mirror video. Baby Jessica comes out.

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Speaker 3: That construction worker crying when he pulls it kills me

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every time, A baby Jessica, you big softeeth?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so uh Movie news, Platooners least Man TV News.

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The first episode of the Simpsons appears on The Tracy

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Speaker 1: Oh Tattering Glow is al there ow Yeah, el last

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name alcoholic, honey.

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Speaker 3: Check phone cough araw alcoholic. How about the teenager who

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landed the plane who flew it from West Germany and

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landed it in Red Square.

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Speaker 2: I can remember that.

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Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed the heck out of the Russians.

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Speaker 2: And then the Music News YouTube releases Joshua Tree, the

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best best YouTube album and one of the best albums

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in the world in history.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, We'll have to get into that later.

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Lebert releases Hysteria, which is my favorite album.

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Speaker 2: Fall Time, Well, I mean, you got to pour some

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sugar on me. I guess you still remember the first,

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my very first high school dance that I went to.

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That was the song that like that was in the

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whole night led up to that moment. That was the

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final song and when they have played it, that place

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Speaker 3: Right when the game.

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Speaker 2: For sure. Also in Music News, the very first Rick

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roll happens because Rick Astley releases Never Going to Give

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Speaker 3: Also in nineteen eighty seven, the world population reaches five billion.

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Is Nothing rolling right past that? Spaceballs released June twenty fourth,

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nineteen eighty seven. Okay, here are the top ten songs

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from Casey's Top forty real quick. Okay, all right, Number

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how about this one? Number seven on the charts this

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week nineteen eighty seven Wanted Dead or Alive?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, the reason I started playing guitar?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right? Number six this week in eighty

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Speaker 2: By Yeah I can't remember that. That was the one

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where in the video she's she's just up and down

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the stage with the guitar, and then you kind of

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noticed Quidman and she's not really playing here. It's that

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guy back in the back that's really playing the guitar. Okay,

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Speaker 3: They blow up the piano in the video too. Number

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five Diamonds by Herb Albert. Nope, Janet Jackson on vocals

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on that one. Number four into Deep Genesis okay, okay.

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Number three I Want to Dance with Somebody who.

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Speaker 2: Loves Oh yeah, that's my kids still love that song

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really even today. Yeah, that's a timeless one right there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Always by a Lenox Star. Number two, Eh, it's

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kind of a makeout song of eighty seven and number

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so onto Spaceball's the mel Brooks movie of

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nineteen eighty seven, the parodies the Star Wars movies. How

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Speaker 3: Okay, super light plot overview. Here we go. So planet

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played by mel Brooks, gets Dark Helmet. Rick moranis to

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force King Roland of Druidia, the guy from at Us,

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enough to give him the code of this shield that

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protects Druidia's air, by kidnapping his daughter, Princess Vespadephian Zuniga,

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right on the day of her arranged wedding to Prince Vallium,

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who she runs out on, which is hilarious, and then

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he hires smuggler all around bad boy lone Star and

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his buddy Barf to rescue her from the Spaceballs by

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paying him a million base box. Lone Star, along with

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the help of Yogurt, learns to use the schwartz and

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then he rescues Princess Vespa. They put all the air

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back in Druidia, and he defeats Dark Helmet and President

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is actually Prince were good. Hey.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, turns out so you did not mention the actor

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who played Prince Vallium. The names on these are great,

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who I remember from the Hollywood Squares, no doubt. He

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who does the voice for the robot dot Matrix.

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Speaker 3: Matrix Yep, Jim J. Bullock, who I remembered from Too

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Speaker 2: So that's the plot of the movie. Just to touch

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on a couple of interesting things. First, trivia question, Prince,

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which I think I mean as many, yeah, as many

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Hebrew jokes as mel Brooks puts in, and he even

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said in this particular movie is like, I don't know

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that I should have put in so many Jewish jokes

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but yes, he's the very very white girl is Princess

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Speaker 3: It's funny she doesn't look jewlish.

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Speaker 2: And then of course lone star Hans Solo, definitely Han Solo.

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of that. And then lastly, mel Brooks, who who directed

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times is President scrub Do you know how we got

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the first movies I ever remember seeing and is brilliant

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the one that had Robert de Niro, which was way

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too long. Yeah, but anyway, it's fantastic movie. And then

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Speaker 3: Did you ever watch the TV show Get Smart?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Wait, the old one, right old one. Yeah, that

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was mell Rex. Okay, I didn't know that. So he

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the wedding. Was absolutely hysterical.

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Speaker 3: He kills it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he kills it.

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Speaker 3: He's so okay cool. It was his name, Ronnie, Ronnie Graham,

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Ronnie Graham. Every line he says is funny. Absolutely, when

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then just a little bit of trivia. He

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Speaker 2: Okay actress. Okay, So we've got Bill Pullman. This was

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm familiar with the movie, but and you

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independence state. He's the President of the United States, right,

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and I think that's more fitting for him than these

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Speaker 3: Roles that he was playing at first, okay, and then

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we have the incomparable John Canny. I'm a mog half man,

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half dog.

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Speaker 2: I'm my own best friend. Oh man, Uncle Buck gone

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too soon, far too soon. Yes, nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 3: I believe died ninety four.

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Speaker 2: This was a great shame, great shame. But John Candy,

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who was in SETV, was in Stripes with Bill Murray,

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is in The Great Outdoors with Dan Aykroyd. Just a

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comedy I kind of the day, absolutely great.

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Speaker 3: He plays Tom Hanks' brother in Splash and he's kind

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of unappreciated role. And then he's Del Griffith from playing

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Speaker 1: I never did introduce myself Del Griffith, American like fixture

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director of sales Shower Curtain Ring Division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a classic.

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Speaker 3: He's in Home Alone. I mean he's his fingerprints are

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Speaker 2: He was in The Blues Brothers as the cop when

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he gets the address to get the addressed to Rickley

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Stadium and he's laughing because he's been tricked. I love

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him and everything.

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Speaker 3: He's the security guard at the end of the vacation Mavie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, folks, Clark's closed motion. Then we have Rick

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then Daphne's Zanniga plays Princess Vespa, and I think maybe

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this is kind of her pinnacle role. She was in

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seen it, and then she was on Melrose Place for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was the girlfriend in The Fly too.

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of my wheelhouse. And then just to I've already mentioned

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Joan Rivers as the voice of Dot Matrix. And then

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who is the voice man in all of the Police

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Academy movies which we got to hit. I mean, we

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should just do like all of Steve Gutenberg's movies in

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one episode, I think. But the guy who is just

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famous for his ability to do all kinds of sounds

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Speaker 3: Mouth, Okay, so a lot of people will get annoyed

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at Michael Winslow because they're wrong. But he has a

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laugh out loud moment in this movie where he's doing

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the I'm with the rainar sir, Well, don't need that

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private We're right here now.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: Now? What is it? I'm having trouble with the radar, sir.

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with it? I've lost the bleeps. I've lost

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the sweeps lost.

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key actors and actresses in this movie. Okay, we wanted

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to give a quick shout out to a couple of

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people that we love talking to on Twitter. The first

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one is Gidget Vaughn LaRue. She is down in Australia. Yeah,

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and she has a podcast that she does with Colonel

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Kickhead called The Retro Cinema. I've had the fortune to

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listen to some of those episodes and she's got some

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good stuff going on. So Gidget von LaRue is at

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Speaker 3: I love listening to her her voice, so she's got

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such great speaking voice and that Australian accent just does

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Speaker 2: Right, what about soundtrack? We got anything on soundtrack?

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Speaker 3: Hey, you got good enough from Van Halen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of fifty fifty right for the diner scene.

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Speaker 3: The diner scene, Sam Hagar on lead vocals, I'll have

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the cleavage you have raised your hands by bon Jovie.

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an appearance on this movie.

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he sent the script to George Lucas because you know,

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obviously he's parodying the Star Wars, the Star Wars trilogy,

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and George Lucas was like, this is hilarious. I love it.

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actually Industrial Lights and Magic ended up being a major

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finisher for the special effects in the movie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Yeah, here's another little tidbit that you may

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parked at the diner, yes, which was thrown in there

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with George Lucas's blessing. So cool.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. And then the I'll give it we'll

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do a little trivia question on this one. Can you

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tell me a modern car that has an aspect of

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Tesla the electric cars.

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Speaker 3: Yes, are not the rock band.

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Speaker 2: Not the rock band Tesla, which I love and played

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with Frank Cannon.

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Speaker 3: I know that's really cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and but no Tesla the car. Yes, I guess

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Elon Musk was a Spaceballs fan. And so whenever you

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whenever you go into high gear and it's like you're

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you're turning on the overdrive for the car, you go

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ludicrous speed as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. If you search Tesla and plaid

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speed out there, you'll see a test drive where somebody's

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it goes fast, but then the screen they have this

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giant led screen in the middle, it turns plaid just

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like in movie. It's fantastic, not the Ludacros speed. Okay,

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what do we know who the composer was on this one?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: No, okay, let's quitch get so. The composer on this

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one was John Morris, who had a few other things,

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Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein. He was actually nominated for a

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Grammy for his work on The Elephant Man. But the

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only films of mel Brooks that John Morris wasn't on

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were Robin Hood, Men in Tights and Dracula Dead and

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Loving It, which brings us back to Airplane because it

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starred mister Leslie Nielsen. There you go.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Okay, So I would be mad at myself

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if I didn't make at least this comment on the soundtrack. Okay,

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if you're like me, the soundtrack of Your Youth is

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colored with Looney Tunes. Yeah, there's a scene where the

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alien pops out of the dude's chest at the diner

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and then proceeds to seeing Hello, my honey.

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Speaker 1: Hello my baby, Hello my honey, Hello my rack on go.

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Speaker 4: Baby, my heart's on fire.

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Speaker 2: So the dude is John Hurt from the movie from

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the movie Alien, the one who did the scene originally,

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up in a second for me. Okay, one of my

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Speaker 3: It's hilarious. It's awesome to see the alien again. Yes,

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but the guy who's next to him, that's another laugh

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outloud moment for me. When he's like one guy's like,

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get this guy some one and that guy goes water.

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Speaker 2: MI get dis massive hypto bismal.

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Speaker 3: Good times, Sorry, mom, I just kissed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the yeah, so the Looney Tunes that you're

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referring to is the frog because in this version of

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the alien popping out of his chest, which I'll go

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ahead and say, we're gonna come on, come up to

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five best lines or scenes in just a minute. But

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maybe my number one favorite is oh no, not again.

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But as he bursts out of his chest, he then

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puts on the straw hat and our top hat and

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has the cane and starts singing, Hello, my baby, Hello,

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my honey, just like the frog from the Looney Tunes cartoons.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so funny. Okay, we're bouncing around a little bit, sorry, a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit so we but we've hit soundtrack, we've hit

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special effects, we've segued nicely into the five best lines.

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I've already said my number one of oh no, not again.

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What do you got what's your number one?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I didn't really I didn't really rank them.

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There's so many. But so I really like the priest

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who when he's he's talking and he's like the guy

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says I'm sorry, He's like, oh be sorry, we quiet, Yes,

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we already talked about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So number two for me, what is the whole

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spiel on when they're watching the VCR tape?

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Speaker 3: When does this happen in the movie?

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Speaker 2: Now you're looking at now, sir, Everything that happens now

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is happening now?

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Speaker 3: What happened to then? When just now?

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Speaker 2: Wear it now?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: Go back to then?

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Speaker 1: When now? Now?

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Speaker 3: No, I can't why we missed it? When just now?

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Speaker 2: When will then be now soon?

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00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,759
Speaker 3: Just missed it?

471
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: That is one that that that my wife and I

472
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:48,759
replay quite frequently.

473
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: That's a that's a funny one. Yeah, okay, how about

474
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,519
this one? This part cracks me up. When he says,

475
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,759
will you get the introduction of a dark helmet? You

476
00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:02,359
hear the breathing sort of Darth Vader ish, and then

477
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,960
you can tell you, and then he throws open the mask.

478
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,480
He's like, I get breathe in this thing.

479
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,279
Speaker 2: Yes. So that's Rick moranis and part of his brilliance.

480
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:16,160
I think he may have improvised that particular scene. But

481
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:19,359
one scene that I am sure he improvised is number

482
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,599
three on my list, which is the dolls scene. So

483
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,799
he's playing with the Princess doll and his own doll,

484
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:29,480
and that scene is completely improvised. It was not scripted

485
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:33,880
at all. And Rick Moranis is brilliant part.

486
00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: And that's so funny.

487
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: You need it on the Preacher, Sir knocked on my door.

488
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Knocked next time? Yes, sir, did you see anything?

489
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: No, sir, I didn't see you playing with your dolls.

490
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: Again, good, well, you knock next time.

491
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure I didn't see you playing with your dolls.

492
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,279
Speaker 3: I've not seen you play with your dolls. Uh that

493
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:02,079
you stole that one from me. But so again, the

494
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,519
laugh out loud moment with Michael Winslow when he's talking

495
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,200
into the speaker and he starts, sorry, roll the radar

496
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,279
and he comes up to me and he's like, what's the problem,

497
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,319
and he continues to talk without the microphonet the microphone

498
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:17,440
down and then he puts it down. He continues to

499
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,440
talk and then he like rips the thing out of

500
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,799
the I haven't rolled the radar, sir. Yes, So that

501
00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:24,079
part cracks me up every time.

502
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:28,519
Speaker 2: Fourth best line in the movie for me. That's the

503
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:30,319
kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage.

504
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,319
Speaker 3: That's the combination of my life. That's a good one,

505
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,240
all right. How about this one when they're replaying the

506
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,240
stuff on the VCR. Yes, and it comes to the

507
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:44,799
sudden stop, dark helmet flies through the air and smashes

508
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,720
it and he says, let's get past this part. In fact,

509
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:48,880
don't ever play this part again.

510
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,839
Speaker 2: Good stuff. And then last, I don't know that it's

511
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:57,799
still funny to me now, but the line that I

512
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,880
remembered forever is calling the desert okay, because when they

513
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,279
were actually coming the desert, I was like, this is hilarious.

514
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960
But I was thirteen at the time, so man, we.

515
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: Ain't okay for me. The number one line, though, has

516
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,759
got to be I see your schwartz as as big

517
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:27,200
as mine. Yes, you know that that's the That's the

518
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,240
line from the movie, and that's the one that we

519
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:31,799
repeated to each other all the time at school.

520
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:35,279
Speaker 2: What does that make us? Absolutely nothing.

521
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: I think it's funny how Rick moranis every time he's

522
00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:41,480
got his helmet up and he's like he sort of

523
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,400
talks like he's like, well, what what happened? You know,

524
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,920
he's but every time he puts his helmet down, he's

525
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,039
like room store. You know, his voice changes.

526
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: So there here's an interesting bit of trivia. Do you

527
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920
remember what happens when he goes to he goes to

528
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,319
the control station and he's about to like the it's

529
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:03,519
the destroyer or whatever that he's and they're like, no,

530
00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:04,960
that's the coffee machine. You remember that?

531
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

532
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So mel Brooks was notorious for not allowing anyone

533
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,400
to have coffee cups on his sets because just as

534
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,839
a month or so ago, we learned sometimes those things

535
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,759
slip into scenes like they did in Game of Thrones

536
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:26,960
one of the final episodes. And so the bit then

537
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,720
for this movie is Rick moranis is walking around for

538
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:32,400
a third of the movie with a styrofoam coffee cup

539
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,440
in his hand because he goes to the coffee machine first.

540
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:40,119
Speaker 3: Yes, I always have my coffee, went, Yes.

541
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: I always have coffee when I watch radar.

542
00:32:42,799 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: You know that. Of course I do, sir.

543
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: Everybody knows that. Okay, all right, so you get it, yep.

544
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,519
And we've hit our actors. So now we're on to

545
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:55,599
six degrees of Kevin Bacon. You want to give it

546
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:58,079
a shot, I've already done Rick moranis you're not allowed

547
00:32:58,079 --> 00:32:58,720
to use him?

548
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: Okay, if I can't is Rick Marass. I'm gonna go

549
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,079
the John Candy route. Okay, good, let's go John Camp.

550
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:07,799
I'll skip stripe since I could go John Candy, Bill Murray,

551
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,359
Bill Murray goes. Yeah, all right, so let's go John

552
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:20,400
Candy and Tom Hanks and splash. Okay, Tom, there, Paula

553
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,079
thirteen boom, look as you go.

554
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,119
Speaker 2: Two movies. I'm not even gonna try to compete with you.

555
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,519
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh that was so good.

556
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:29,119
Speaker 2: I didn't even know.

557
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,559
Speaker 3: I didn't yeah me, Yeah, that was perfect.

558
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:34,839
Speaker 2: I was over here going like, okay, how do I

559
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:38,960
get to John lyth Gal? Yeah? Yeah, you're like Tom Hanks.

560
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,680
Dang it, you're so good.

561
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: Thank you.

562
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:44,559
Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the movie.

563
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,799
Speaker 3: Okay, babe, God.

564
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 2: I gotta say, in a large part this movie did

565
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,079
not work up for me. I'll movie watching Okay, it's

566
00:33:56,119 --> 00:34:01,440
been twenty years probably since I've seen it, and whenever

567
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:05,720
the especially whenever we see Bill Pullman's character for the

568
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,639
first time, the hamming is almost like bad stage acting,

569
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,079
community theater stuff, and I just I was kind of like,

570
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:14,599
let down.

571
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,119
Speaker 3: Let down he's talking about when he's like Marv.

572
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,119
Speaker 2: Right when he yeah, when they're when they're trying to

573
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,679
negotiate with Pizza the hut.

574
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: Oh Okay, Okay, So yeah, I was.

575
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: I was disappointed at that part. Now, the movie is

576
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,079
still great. N't get me wrong, it's a classic. It's

577
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,280
it's always going to be a classic. But I was

578
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,719
surprised on the rewatching that I was like, this is

579
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,079
not this is not as good as I remember it being.

580
00:34:40,599 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so here's I got a couple of problems

581
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,559
with that.

582
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

583
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: Bill Pullman, in my opinion, is not good looking enough

584
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,400
to pull off the hero.

585
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

586
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: He's also I didn't buy him as the president and independency.

587
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Yeah I'm not, you're not. I'm not. He's kind of

588
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,360
in between on everything. He's a little too goofy and

589
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,599
a little not funny enough.

590
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: Huh.

591
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: So I'm not a big Bill Pullman fan. I also

592
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:15,679
thought that mel Brooks's parts in This President's Scrub, and yeah,

593
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,559
we're kind of the least funny characters in the movie.

594
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,039
I love John Candy, I love Rick moranis in.

595
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: This Absolutely those two guys are the movie.

596
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: I think. I think John Rivers is funny. I think

597
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Daphne zu Nigga is good as the princess. Right, But

598
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,920
I if you would have said give me more barf

599
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,400
and give me more dark helmet, I'm I'm totally important.

600
00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely totally agree. There are some classic lines, and I mean,

601
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:49,519
you can't. We're criticizing something that is iconic, so don't. Yeah,

602
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,440
that's right, we still love it. Yeah I would. I

603
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,840
would watch it again with the kids. Absolutely, but it's uh,

604
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,400
it's not It's not what I remember it being. So

605
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,440
here's a trivia thing. You know, we talked about lights

606
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,679
and magic being involved with it. You remember the scene

607
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,920
when they're when they've hit the self destruct button, yes,

608
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,119
and then like that's the the F bomb comes out there,

609
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,400
which is just a shocker. I watched Beetlejuice the other

610
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,239
day with the kids. It's just I was just like,

611
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,039
how did I not remember that? No kidding, So these

612
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,519
are These are a couple of rare like Airplane was

613
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:27,440
the rare PG movie that had boobies. These are Those

614
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,480
two were a couple of the rare PG movies that

615
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:34,119
had the f bomb in them. Right. But anyway, they're

616
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,480
all escaping in the escape pods, right yep. So there's

617
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:40,360
one scene it's really it's still like a flash, but

618
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:44,320
you see the escape pod shooting out and you're like, wow,

619
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,719
they did a really good job with that. Well, it

620
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,079
turns out that was actually a deleted scene from one

621
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:50,320
of the original Star Wars movies.

622
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,559
Speaker 3: Star Wars had his fingerprints on this, which was pretty cool.

623
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:56,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, to have the blessing of the person

624
00:36:56,679 --> 00:37:00,280
you're parodying, you can't beat that. And and like said,

625
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,280
mel Brooks is iconic and brilliant and blazing Saddles and

626
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,480
you Frankenstein are some of my favorites. Spaceballs is going

627
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,199
to be lower on the totem pole compared to those movies.

628
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,159
Speaker 3: I would say this is the third best mel Brooks movie.

629
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the producers, but yeah, I was not

630
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,199
a big fan of History of the World or the

631
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,039
producer or.

632
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: Dracula didn't let me. Never even saw that one I

633
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,599
go blazing saddles Young Frankenstein Spaceballs.

634
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be on board with. Oh, but High Anxiety

635
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,960
I almost forgot, so yeah, you got to watch Anxiety.

636
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,039
So High Anxiety was mel Brooks's parody of Alfred Hitchcock movies,

637
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,679
and that was the one I watched over and over

638
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440
his kid, that one solid I will it's been again

639
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,280
a couple of decades since I've seen it. I would

640
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,880
rewatch it again and said I'd have to decide between

641
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,159
it and Spaceballs. Okay, but this kind of what goes

642
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:59,880
on with Spaceballs that I think is the key to

643
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:03,639
the difference between Spaceballs and Airplane for my final judgment here,

644
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:06,480
which we're moving into. Yes, is what I talked about

645
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:10,519
before they had the guys an Airplane that were all

646
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:16,960
serious actors delivering serious stuff even though it was hysterical.

647
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,280
And the conflict between this very serious delivery from these

648
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,599
very serious actors and the hysterical language and stuff going

649
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,360
on in the movie was what made it so funny.

650
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,639
With Spaceballs, You've got some comedy geniuses here, but you

651
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,639
got some people that were really kind of hamming it

652
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,840
up a little bit, especially Yeah, Bill Wolman, is. Yeah,

653
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,800
they're playing for comedy, a lot of it. Colonel Sanders

654
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:46,800
is a great guy. He was on Hill Street Blues.

655
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,960
He was a serious actor, but you could tell he

656
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,039
wasn't playing serious role. He was kind of hamming it up.

657
00:38:53,840 --> 00:39:00,519
Speaker 3: What's the matter, Colonel Sanders Chicken. Yeah, this movie is

658
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,519
great and it's a lot of fun. And as a

659
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,000
Star Wars fan, I'm a big Star Wars guy. It's

660
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480
fun to see you know, your favorites poked fun at

661
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,639
and I love it. It's funny. There are some laugh out

662
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:16,440
loud parts, but not like Airplane Nope, not for me.

663
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: No.

664
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: Rick Morans and John Candy knock it out.

665
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: Of the park though. Absolutely.

666
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:26,119
Speaker 3: Rick Moranas in particular was brilliant through this whole movie. Yes,

667
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,400
I'll tell you another scene that I like that we

668
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,440
kind of we haven't really talked about. Yeah, is when

669
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,840
they're fighting with their schwartz and they slash a TV

670
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,639
like a cameraman. Yes, and he's like, that's it breaks

671
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:40,679
the fourth wall, and.

672
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:43,559
Speaker 2: Well, and that's exactly the same scene you know I

673
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,320
talked about earlier. They have the scene where like they're

674
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,199
jumping through the closing doors and then it turns out

675
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:52,039
they've captured their stunt senda, which is again that kind

676
00:39:52,039 --> 00:39:55,559
of breaking of the fourth but that same scene where

677
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:58,920
they're fighting and Lone Star goes over and does some

678
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,239
kind of acrobatic You when you watch that in high definition, Yeah,

679
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,800
that's not Bill Pullman at all. You see his face

680
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,960
and I'm like, oh, there's that stunt double again.

681
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does some weak stuff to transition on that.

682
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so I think we've reached the end of

683
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,280
our show.

684
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: Final judgment, Love Spaceballs, love Airplane, Airplane.

685
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: More definitely Airplane is the winner on this one battle

686
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:33,719
of parodies. Airplane wins. Condolences and respect to Spaceballs winner Airplane. Yeah.

687
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,079
So thank you guys. If you've listened all the way

688
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,519
to the end of this, we appreciate you. Send us

689
00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:42,960
some stuff on Twitter. You can catch us at.

690
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:47,079
Speaker 3: At Shirley podcast on Twitter, Yes, and at Suley podcast

691
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:47,760
on Facebook.

692
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Very good. We love to hear your comments. Have we

693
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,440
completely missed it is? Spaceball is a better movie in

694
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,280
your opinion? I know a lot of people out there

695
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,159
who believe that it is.

696
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 3: Well, let's hear from you.

697
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, come at it. Tell us what you think. We'd

698
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,000
love to hear it.

699
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,679
Speaker 3: Give us something great, and maybe we'll mention you on

700
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our next podcast.

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Speaker 2: Jason, it's been fun again.

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Speaker 3: Good see man, it's fun.

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Speaker 2: See it all right. All music, images, and movie clips

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are used for the purposes of commentary and education in

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conjunction with the fair Use Agreement under the US copyright law.

