Speaker 1: Welcome to wager Talk today, the gold standard of sports
betting shows, where we talked to talk and walk the
walk loaded lineup. Today, Yanni Greek is going to drop
the steam report. Dave Mason from bet Online is going
to join us, and we got to talk to him
about what happened with Penn and ESPN earlier today. I'll
get my thoughts on that. Joe Niary's going to join
us break down Thursday Night football plus the Clippers and
the Suns, and we'll go over a same game parlay
for tonight as well as some free picks. Thanks everyone
for joining us. Please hit the like button as we
bring in Yanni to go over the steam report. Yanni,
we got a ton going on. I can only imagine
how busy it is now that we've added college basketball
to the mix.
Speaker 2: So Rober I, just as I'm doing this, this is
what I'm sending. I'm adding my college basketball six pack
just turned into a college basketball seven pack because I've
just added another college basketball four percent. Man, we are firing.
I'm working with the same groups I did in college football.
So uh yeah, again, it's not going to be crazy,
von you, but we're not afraid the bet and so
far college basketball has been good. It's early first week,
but jumping out ahead and sitting at number one in profit,
I will take it. And uh yeah, college football, NFL, MMA,
college basketball, NBA. Like, dude, it doesn't get better than that.
We have everything. So wherever you want to take it, brother, Well.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the NFL game tonight. The lines are
all over the place. I mean, fanduels, there's an eight
and a half out there, Pinnacles got a ten out there.
So what are we seeing for the Thursday night game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's all the overreaction here on the on
the Denver Broncos, Listen, they've been playing good, not just
winning a bunch of games, but they've been covering as well.
Not they've won six straight, they've covered four of their
last six. You're not going to get a team like
that at any kind of discount. And then on the
flip side of that, you got a Vegas team that
two weeks ago got shut out, and then last Sunday
here in Vegas, they played their hearts out, got the overtime,
went for two, didn't get it, and ended up losing
the game by one. So you're like, what do they
have left in the tank in a short week now,
you know, on the road, it's not even at home,
And I think that's why you're seeing the line up
as high as it is right now. But let's not
forget the look ahead was ten and a half, just
like the look ahead total was forty three. Total got
bet down to forty two, but started going back up
no surprise, primetime game usually gets over money from the public,
so we're looking at forty three's today. But again back
to the side where the look ahead was ten and
a half, went to ten, nine and a half, now
down to nine. So obviously sharp money on Vegas, but
they're getting more than enough Denver money to offset that risk.
And when you tie in all the teasers that are
gonna be bet on Denver, all the money line parlays
that are gonna be bet on Denver, tied into Sunday
NFL and other stuff tonight and tomorrow, I think that
the books will end up like with this line right
around where it is. I don't think they're gonna have
all that much risks when it's said and done. They're
probably gonna need the dog like they do on most
primetime games. Doesn't mean all that much again, but it's
one of those tough NFL games because you know what
the Sharps are gonna do. You got a divisional game,
double digit dog, They're gonna grab the ten. They do
it all the time. It's automatic. And then from there
it's see what the public does. And like I said,
they they're coming in more on Denver, but because they're
being asked to lay this many points, they're getting more
creative and they're teasing it their money line, parlaying it,
and they're looking for props team totals. Weis the bet
Denver and not have to lay you know, nine points.
Speaker 1: Let's move to college football. What are you seeing some
of this action? We got games tonight, we games tomorrow,
we got Saturday. What's on the what's on the slate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, these primetime games man a lot of South Florida
money tonight. They're not afraid to be laying this double digits.
And what sticks out to me is whenever you saw,
like the Sharper books go to fourteen fourteen and a half,
it got picked off on the dog like they were
taking the utsa side at above two touchdowns. So every time,
so much public Risks moves it. They know they could
attract some public, some sharp money by getting this up
over two touchdowns on the UTSA side. And if you
remember UTSA last week as five and a half point
Dogs won by three touchdowns, that was one of my
four percent plays against Tulane, which I like Tulane this week,
just thrown it out there. In the other game, the
Appalachian State game, that's good two way action there, and
the line even reflects that. In fact, I'm seeing more
money on the Georgia Southern game as of right now.
If the game was getting kicked was kicking off right now,
the books would actually need the favorite, the Appalachian State side,
all over money from the public, but the under got steamed,
so the sharps are on the under. This is one
of those public on one side, sharps on the other.
And that's definitely the total on this game with the
wise guys betting the under and the betting public heavy, heavy,
heavy on the over. So that's pretty much the college
football for today. Real quickly, look at the weekend everybody's
big game Alabama LSU, and so far, like it hasn't
attracted the action you usually get for that kind of matchup,
and the reason simple. It's a double digit spread this
year on the Alabama side. But the Sharps got involved immediately.
They took the points with LSU no surprise. The look
ahead was up around like eleven eleven and a half even,
so they took that down and that's why you're looking
at nine, nine and a half. But I did see
some sharp money laying it under ten. So like at
nine they're gonna take Alabama. But up there you know
at eleven and a half or so that you saw
LSU money and also a little bit under under at fifty.
But I think when the public gets involved, they're gonna
bet this game over. So it'll be interesting to see
what happens there. Nothing really else of note. If you
check on bet on It, we went over some of
the steam moves, but a lot of those lines are gone.
I know tomorrow we're doing football Friday. Hopefully we have
some fresh stuff between now and then. But yeah, good
board of college football. Even to mar there's three time
time games, and like I told you already, I like Tulane,
I already released them to subscribers, So uh, that line's
gone though. Now you're looking at three and a half
at the Sharper Shops.
Speaker 1: Anything in college basketball that we should be uh, we
should be taking and brooke quickly.
Speaker 3: Uh.
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As far as college basketball so far we've given I've
given out one, two, three, four six seven I think
nine plays. I've given out nine plays. Uh, seven of
them are on a package for uh Daily. If you want,
here's two that that aren't on that card that only
subscribers got, uh six sixty seven Right State, Right State
plus fifteen. I know it looks like the opposite got steamed,
but that's why you got to be very careful this
early on in college basketball. There's a lot of manipulation
on screen, and then we come and fire off screen
and take the side we really want, which was the
Right State plus fifteen after it got bat up. And
then in the extra board games three zero, six, six
sixty three Jackson State plus thirty eight. So those are
two premium plays I gave subscribers Wright State plus fifteen,
Jackson State plus thirty eight two moves that guy I
trade info with his group bet six fifty six Ohio
at a pickam and minus one, and they also took
six sixty two abling Christian minus three and a half
and four.
Speaker 1: All right, we only got one basketball game tonight and
uh Clippers opened minus five and a half and then
Kawhi letter James Harden to immediately get rolled out in
this line flips like minus two and a half minus three.
I'm assuming this line move isretty much over and done
with nothing to be at here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, once it got the three, I mean I didn't
see it drop back down. I haven't seen like three
and a half, but I have seen the three juice
even at some of the Sharper shops. So obviously a
ton a ton of Phoenix money. And that's just one
of the toughest sports for the books to bet to
book I mean not that I feel bad for book makers,
but yeah, they got to get ahead of all that
information and then quantify what that information's worked, Like, what
is this player actually worked at a betting line over
and over and over and over again, and you get
keep getting pelted with with one sided money. What can
you do? Keep raising the line and hope you could
attract some money the other way, But so far nothing,
no takers on the Clippers even though they were five
and a half point favorites when this line opened.
Speaker 1: Let's move to UFC. Here, here's one thing I can Here's.
Speaker 2: Actively going to uh apex today to tape two shows
uf C for this weekend and then next week with
the Islam Maka Cheff main event.
Speaker 1: So there's no guarantees in this business. I got to
guarantee for you, Yanni, no fights are gonna be fixed
this week.
Speaker 2: Much attention, even though in plain sight, if you're ever
gonna do it, this is probably why you want to
do it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it.
Speaker 2: It's almost like Dulgarian and Ablun's like, no way would
anyone connected with Glory do it? Right? What do you
want the chances?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 1: What do you think about this card? You want to
start with the main event?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: Gabriel with me.
Speaker 2: I'm on the island. I think I don't know if
it's the square side, but I like Gabriel Bond fiend.
I know the sharp song Ryandy Brown that line's dropped,
but at under minus two hundred, I think he's the
right side. He's so much younger. I think he's been
so uh punished for that loss to Nicholas Dalby that
he's never gotten over it. I mean, in the market hasn't.
But if you look at that line with with Dolby,
he was like a minus six hundred favorite when that
when he walked into the octagon, and I get it.
Randy Brown just finished that same Dolby that we lost to,
but he opened like minus two hundred. It's a big
difference between my six hundred mines two hundred with the
market thinks, so this is a huge adjustment. And I
like that he's like five six years younger. Randy Brown's
up there in age. Again. I'm a fan of Randy Brown.
Hard to knock him. It's not a fade of Randy Brown.
It's a bet on Gabriel bon fiend. I just think
he's the right side. Co main event. You can't make
any money on it. Morales will probably beat Schnell. I'm
sure betters will sprinkle a little something on Schnell because
he's a five hundred fighter, but at a dog Yeah,
he's always capable of winning a fight, but I just
think it's such a bad matchup for him against Morales
and Morales coming in with a ton of momentum. But yeah,
I can't touch that, and real quickly, the fight that
jumped out at me was Eros Medicch over Salakoff. Like
I like Meditch a lot, And here's why number one,
the over was favored at one and a half. But
the under's gotten so much steam. This one's figured it
to end within the first seven and a half minutes.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of randomness when that happens invariant.
So you may be like, wait, so when you be
on the dog, absolutely not, because when you look at
the knockout rate and the chin between these two, Metich
has a huge advantage, a huge advantage, and I think
that's going to be the difference maker the power of
Metag over Salakov because they're both going to go to land,
but it'll be the difference in the power of Metach
anything less than minus two hundred. I thought he was
the right side. But again I'm seeing a lot of
disagreement from guys I respect on two of them favorites
that I just said, Bon theme and meditch what do
you think?
Speaker 1: All right? So I I like Sally kof medicch just
turns us in. All of his fights have turned into
a fire. Do you know I did this? I did
this on our show. You know he has fourteen fights
in thirty six minutes of cage time. All of his.
Speaker 2: Fights are just over immediately like that. Yet on Salakov
you see the line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I don't know. I just I don't
trust the chin of medic This is the guy that
got knocked down by Gilbert Orbina, So I'm not just
in there. I love Joseph morales by finish. I love
I think he finishes snow Schnell retired and then he
came back. When does this ever work? And then my
only yeah, my only concern with bone Feme is it's
his first five round fight, and I worry about the cardio.
If he works too hard on the wrestling, doesn't get
the takedowns, maybe he gases out. But Randy Brown is
the king of making the mistakes and being underwhelming fighting
down to his I don't know, like losing close routes.
He's he's the best at it, like like he's number
one and at that. So a couple others, let's see,
Oh what's your Christian Lee Ord Duncan and Marco Tulio.
Speaker 2: I think Tulio's the right side, I do. I think
Tulio's definitely the right side. I just don't love the price,
you know. And that's what happens to me a lot
in with Mma, because now he's off to like minus
one ninety at the opener of minus one fifty where
he got steamed, I thought it was the right side,
but now Duncan, you know, being able to get him
at plus one sixty. Dude, he wins this fight four
out of ten times. It's a good bet and he's capable,
so it's a pass for me. You like that fight?
Speaker 1: To me, it's dogg or pass, although I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2: Get there now.
Speaker 1: Yeah see, yeah, now it is. And Duncan's fought the
much better level of competition Tulio. Listen, Tulio is gonna
get a lot of hype because his girlfriend's Norman Dumont. Norma.
Dumont's just coming off of a win in Tulio's four
teen and one, but only two fights are in the UFC.
It would be dogger pass at this point.
Speaker 2: Another I like is Barcellos with Ricky Simon, Me too
continues to defy age, and Simon isn't all that younger
than him, So this is one of these fights that
Barcellos isn't actually fighting a kid like in his twenties,
a talbot that's supposed to run right through them. You
know what I mean, dude, he'll make your life miserable.
Barcellos brot Bye, he's getting by his age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, by his age, Johnny Okay, Yeah, I've never
seen a guy not be able to go three rounds
and all of a sudden he's dog walking guys twice
his size and there.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll just.
Speaker 1: Leave it at that last one. I'll leave you with
I love hyder A Mill over Jamala Emmers, your boy
Delgado knocked out a Mill And I said in The Woman,
I can't wait to bet on hyder A Mill his
next fight. And then they give him Emmers, who's killer
be killed leaves his chin wide open. Yeah, I love
I love hyder in the bounce back spot. I love
fighters when they're coming off of their first loss. That
was heyder mills first loss. I love coming back on
him because they get a step back back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they go harder in the gym, they pick
up some things. They're more cautious next time out. Yeah yeah,
yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Uh are you aware of what happened to the ESPN bet?
I can't imagine. It affects your world a whole lot
ESPN bet Okay, yeah, I'll do a little segment on that. Yeah,
ESPN bet is going to be no more and pen
is out of the business. Yeah, so pen has blown
a billion dollars trying to make it work with Barstool
and ESPN. It's it's staggering, man, absolutely staggering. What what what?
What has happened with that? But yeah, I figured it
probably doesn't affect you.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't use them.
Speaker 4: I can't use them.
Speaker 1: So oh oh, if you've ever won a bet on
ESPN bet, you'll never use them again because they won't
let you. That was part of the problem. That was
part of the problem. It's kind the one of the
things that we ask people, like other betters, like do
you still have an account at ESPN better Fanatics? And
if they say yes, that tells you everything you need
to know. Yeah, what's the record has been? So I
will not miss ESPN bet at all in the slightest.
All right, it's a great Thursday. We got a ton
of actions. You already mentioned you got college basketball. What
else do you have?
Speaker 2: I got a college basketball seven pack up there that's
got like three or four four percent place again coming
out red hot and college basketball, just like we did
in college football. I have the NFL game tonight a
four percent on the Thursday night game. I have a
Friday college football package up still number one in college football,
over one hundred and thirty units for the year. Saturday
college football package, Sunday NFL package no five percents this
weekend because the fours have been strong enough. I don't
want to put the pressure of this is the game,
the strongest game. We have a ton of strong positions
on Saturday and Sunday in college football in NFL, but
Monday may drop a bomb. So great time to jump
on board a lot of different sports we're getting involved in.
And don't forget check out the free stuff as well
at wagertalk dot com because I post as many premiums
as I possibly can, so best the luck and yeah,
do some damage.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Yanni, Yanni the Greek all of his
plays over at wager talk dot com and yeah, let's
talk about this, this bizarro ESPN bet thing. So so
here here's the deal. Penn and ESPN, they had a
ten year deal. They're getting rid of it after just
two years. And James uh one of one of Johnny
Detroit's best friends, set this in set it best. Penn
has gone from William Hill to Camby, to Barstool, to
ESPN to no One in the course of seven years.
You have to be the worst partner in the world
to achieve that amount of futility in the sports betting industry.
It's just it's just a weird, weird thing that happened.
They spent a billion dollars trying to launch Barstool and
ESPN bet. ESPN quickly came out and said, no, we're
going to be using DraftKings as our main book, and
Penn is apparently going to move the ESPM bet to
the score bet app. I will tell you this was
bad for us betters. Somebody aggressively wanted to get into
the market. They had a billion dollars apparently to play with,
and they messed it up. They had more than enough
resources to make a really good sports book with a
good interface that always worked, with good management, with good limits,
with fair rules for the betters. And what did we get.
We got Barstool a book for a while, and then
ESPN Bet, which limited you immediately even if you didn't
win immediately, if you beat a prop line, you were
just done. And then that travels. The word travels about
ESPN Bet, and their interface was terrible. They didn't offer
as many props as as other sites did, and they
ended up with a five percent market share. ESPN ended
up with a five market share. And the other big
takeaway me small business owner. They made a really, really
big mistake in business. Their business plan was we can
make a lot of money in the sports gambling world,
and they just went from there. And their business plan
should have been, is there a hole in the market
we can fill? What are problems we can solve for people?
It's business one oh one, and they got it wrong
from the very beginning. And to be honest, I have
no idea what has happened to ESPN this. Johnny Detroit
and I were talking earlier. This was you. You wanted
to watch Sports Center, you wanted to watch all these shows,
and now it just feels like they just can't do
anything right at this point. So we're gonna bring in Dan.
We're gonna do a same game parlay for tonight's game. Dan,
What has happened to ESPN? How did we get here?
I used to all the time.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's not only ESPN.
Speaker 5: It's like a microcosm of what the sports talk and
has become. The second that Stephen A. Smith yelling across
the table at a dude who was hewn from leather
got super popular, it was done. It was done like
ESPN viewed it as the same way as like MTV.
MTV was like, why would we pay a swath of
many people to do a job very well instead when
we could just either pay Stephen A Smith or an
MTV's case, let's just pay Rob Deerdeck a lot of
money and he'll host ridiculousness around the clock and we'll
just run garbage. So it really is what's happened not
only to this industry specifically, but broadcast television as a whole.
And in the case of how it relates to ESPN
BET with Penn National, you know, I look at Penn
National and Pen Gaming with a little bit different of
eyes because their headquarters is why I'm missing Pennsylvania. That's
where I'm from. So I know the guys who were
on the board, and when they first had the Barstool deal,
you know, I knew people's families who were involved. So
you know, it doesn't surprise me at all. I hate
to say it, knowing what I know that all of
these ventures continue to fail because what happens with penn
First off, you make a horrible deal with Barstool that
was never going to work, and the fact that even
that one failed Andy when Barstool spent the better part
of a decade, you know, conditioning grooming their their their
customers to being degenerate gamblers, the exact same thing that
that a sportsbook would want to be. When that fails,
it probably tells you maybe this isn't the industry for us.
Maybe we should stick more with casinos and brick and
mortar locations than venturing into I gaming to online gaming.
And they didn't learn their lesson. And this is just
as bad for ESPN, who said, oh, we saw you
fail really bad with Barstool, a team of people who
ESPN already knew, Oh, with the whole Barstool thing that
we did with the Barstool bust, that they had a
show that lasted one show before they canceled. Why would
you take the person who didn't work with Barstool, a
company who you don't want to deal with, and then say, yeah,
I want you to run our sports book. It was
screwed from the jump man and it really doesn't surprise me.
And I think it speaks to a couple different issues,
not only in the sports betting industry, but what you
see and when you kick out winners, people aren't going
to bet at your book. That's simple. And ESPN bet
and Pen Gaming is one of the worst at kicking
out winning gamers. People talk all the time about FanDuel,
about DraftKings, ESPN Bet Pen Gaming. They are the worst
offender out of all of them in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Oh, the fandel and DraftKings are saints compared to compared
to these people. Yeah, I just I don't know what
happened to the decision making Eddie has It used to
be they couldn't miss and never.
Speaker 5: Would you do to go back to the ticker on
the side Sports Center. You know you're waiting every single
top of the hour so that you can see the
top ten. Like I remember, back when I was in
high school, we had you know, TVs in the lunch
room and the only thing that we were allowed to
put on it was ESPN, and it was if you
were lucky enough that you had your forty five minute
increment that was always on the back end of an hour.
All the boys would be so pumped because we were
going to get to see the top ten plays of
the day. And ESPN is so far gone away from it.
It's just hot take show after hot take show after
hot take show. And people don't want that, you know
what I mean. But it's a lot easier for them
to fill broadcasting with that than have some competent anchors,
because then those anchors get popular. Then you know, you
with with union and everything, you have to make those
prices go higher and higher. They said, let's just throw
a bag at Steve and A and he'll say dumb
shit all day long. Okay, yeah, people want to see that.
Speaker 1: Justin brings up this. This is where I'm going with it.
Look at the list of people that ESPN used to have.
They used to have Bill Simmons who moved on to
sell them for a quarter of a billion dollars to Spotify.
They had Colin Cowherd, who's he's built a juggernaut over
at f S one. They lost Ryan Rossillo, who went
to The Ringer and now is over at Barstool. Just
those three guys they had, and they couldn't figure out
how to keep them, and it's just it's it's baffling.
And then these shows keep getting worse and worse and worse.
It's like, how many takes even the.
Speaker 5: I used to like those ESPN fantasy shows, you know,
when when you had guys, and you know, I didn't
really love the cast of talent that they had on there,
but it was meaningful. And now they just slap people
on who are not fantasy experts, who are not dfx experts,
and they say, we're already paying this person, so let's
just put them on that show. So they have anchors
who aren't experts. You know, I hate to say it,
you know, I love my Philly folks. We have someone
like E. K.
Speaker 3: D Aaron K.
Speaker 5: Dolan, who you know, fine on air, but as far
as you know, betting information a stalwart, she is not,
you know what I mean. So you put people and
and betters especially can smell through shit a mile away, right,
like they can't tell you, you know, like we couldn't
tell the audience who watches this show or who watches
wager Talk that, like, you know, you couldn't piss on
their leg and tell them it's raining. And that's what
these people try and do with who they put on air.
CBS Sports does the same exact thing. They put people
who are either bad betters and maybe this is by design, Andy,
but bad betters, misinformed betters, and people who are just
chasing action in these in these spots where you know,
if you arming people with good information, they don't want that, Andy,
because you know, ESPN bet doesn't want you to be
a smart consumer. Why the hell would I watch the
show sponsored by DraftKings to go bet on DraftKings.
Speaker 1: I really bad understand it, It's really really bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, random anchor of Sports Center telling me
to take the favorite on Monday Night football. What great content? Awesome?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then it's like, hey, welcome on to ESPN Football.
Let's have Matt Barry give you a same game parlay
before the game launches. But we have no gambling issues.
You know what I mean, it's like, what are we doing?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? And I get it they lost that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, go get that bag whatever you whatever you gotta do.
But it's it's a joke. And the thing is is
true sports betters, Andy, they they aren't gonna buy into
your bullshit, you know what I mean, because they they
they aren't going to just say, oh, this person knows
what they taught. They can smell it a mile away.
When when we have a bad handicap, the comments blow up,
they're like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You're not looking at this.
Speaker 5: You're being myopic to that. You know, better's in this
day and age, and it will be funny. You can
ask Dave Mason about this. But the average better, I
would argue now, and I hate to use the word
sharp versus public. You know, that's still always a thing,
but the average better is way more informed now than
they ever were. And and that's you know, a good thing,
you know. I think it makes markets, you know, tougher
to beat, to be honest with you, because you don't
have such bad, misinformed players playing into it. Still. Obviously
there's a huge swath of that, and that still happens.
But I would say, the average IQ of the sports
better as far as sports betting IQ go is is
higher than it has ever been.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, There's just so many more resources out there that
everybody has access to. Like you know, when someone gets injured,
it's all over social media. They used to be like
there were hours before anybody would know it. You're like,
what's going on. You can't have a last second injury
without the entire world knowing it. So I just it's
a fascinating case study. It really is to just go
back ten years to look and see what ESBO was
and see what it is now. And I will I
will also you know, we're crushing ESPN, but this new
NBA product is so good. It's so good this year
watching a league pass on Amazon Prime and there is no.
Speaker 5: Like an event again. Yeah, it's not just like hey,
we're filling broadcast clocks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they they go on air. Here's the teams,
here's the players, here's why we think they're gonna win
at halftime, here's why they're winning. Here's the plays that
they're running. Like you know, when it was when it
was over at ESPN, it was just like they go
to halftime. You need perk to give some ridiculous take
on somebody's you know, outfit that they wore before the game.
So I'm I'm loving this new NBA product two thumbs up,
absolutely loving it. I think it's great. I think NBA's
due for a resurgence because this TV product is just
light like Ears Ahead and better. So all right, we
got Dave Mason here, so Dan, I'll let you go.
We can get Dave Mason. Kuys, We've got a couple
things up at wager Talk here. NFL Week ten props
packed is up, and we do have a play for
Thursday Night Football. So if you went tonight's play, just
go grab the pack. You're gonna get every single play
from tonight through Sunday, all the way through Monday Night Football.
So we're hitting over fifty five percent. You guys know,
my goal is fifty eight percent at the end of
the year. We're around fifty five percent, which is good.
It's actually really good. But we got lofty expectations and goals,
so you want to grab that that is up. We
got two NHL plays that are up for tonight, and
we got a UFC best bet went one and one
in NHL. We finally had a down day in NBA.
Sorry about that, guys. We were zero and three, have
no props because there's only one game. But we'll see
what we can do on Friday get back. But this
is why we recommend getting seven days worth of props.
That's how it's how we judge it, not on one night.
So over the course of the week, doing pretty good.
Eighteen and eleven since Sunday. All right, let's bring in
Dave Mason. Dave, Happy Thursday. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4: I'm well, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. With your thoughts on Penn and
ESPN terminating their deal, you just come on, you have
to be laughing.
Speaker 4: Come on a little bit, man. I mean it's and
it's not surprised. You know they went to there.
Speaker 3: Penn was a barstool, and then then ESPN opted on board.
And it says, if you don't have a good product,
does it. It doesn't matter what name you're putting behind it.
You know it's it. You need a good product. And
and uh, you know there's some people up there and
then some books that have really dominating share of the
US betters, and you know, then there's guys like us
who have been around forever, and uh, you know every
book had this pros and cons. But you know I
never bet at ESPN nor when it was Barstool, I guess,
you know, Penn whatever.
Speaker 4: So I really can't say, but just.
Speaker 3: From stuff I've read and seen from people I respect,
it just didn't seem like they had a good product.
Speaker 4: You know, You're just you're putting a big name on there.
Speaker 3: You're putting lipstick on a pig, and people figure it
out eventually.
Speaker 4: So so yeah, that's not surprised.
Speaker 1: Obviously you weren't there because I want to I want
to get to some other things. But how does something
like that happen? You have all the information about what
goes into a good sports book. How do you mess
it up that bad? Is it just people that don't
know the industry.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've been in this industry twenty
years and you know, I don't want to talk, you know,
nonsense about people, but there's there's this suits in this industry,
don't you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like a lot of people leading some of these
places are.
Speaker 4: Just they don't know. They aren't betters, you know, they're
business people.
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, I consulted for a book, you know,
a few years back, and there they were making the
software and I was on the call with like their CEO,
and he was just some nerd and they were trying
to rush to get open, and you couldn't with their software.
You couldn't parlay like same game, spread the same game total.
I'm not even talking about like same game parlay prop stuff,
you know, which your kind of controversial. I'm talking like
standard stuff, right, you know, tonight's over to the Raiders
were spread or whatever, and the software didn't allow that.
And I explained to this dude, and he had a
very different accent than mine, that you needed that before
you went live.
Speaker 4: You needed that. And the guy's like, well, are you sure.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, you need that. That's that's you know.
I've a boss back in the day. I always quote him,
and he used to run through the office and he
used to yell, know your customer, and it doesn't matter
what the hell you're selling. And that's kind of how
I found my niche in this industry. I was in
a market I don't you know, I can't even make
a PowerPoint presentation, but you know, I knew the customer.
I just grew up on this stuff. It's in the blood.
And unfortunately, and I'm not talking about my company, but unfortunately,
out there there's just a lot of suits who don't
know this industry. And you see it all across the
lines when the government are making regulations and stuff. It's
like this shit just doesn't make sense. It's like these
guys don't get the industry. They don't get the odds,
they don't get the math, they don't get the customer,
et cetera.
Speaker 4: So that sort of comes down to sorry.
Speaker 3: For part a filipbuster here, but it's kind of a
topic that gets me fired up. But that being said,
that's kind of how I made my bones in this industry.
I got the customer and I got the product. I
know who to sell it to. I knew who our
customers are, et cetera. I speak their language. I just
you know, I'm the guy sitting next to them at
the bar watching the game. That's always viewed myself. And
you know, but that's a lot of these companies that
don't have that.
Speaker 4: They have these CEO and and and.
Speaker 3: Board of directors making all this money, but they couldn't
tell you what a two team uh two t parlay
page right on the top of their head.
Speaker 4: So you know that's that's what you got.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, no, no, man got me.
Speaker 3: Fired up over trying to fast have a nice, peaceful day,
and you get me fired up.
Speaker 1: Just it's mind blowing. They blew through a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: You give you and me a billion dollars, we'll come
up with the sports boo you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I don't ESPN name you, I don't care what you
can whatever, man, whatever it means.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You give you that much money will make it work
well your customer.
Speaker 1: Amen? Amen?
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some sports here. What's the action
on Thursday night football tonight.
Speaker 4: It's kind of slow to the truth right now.
Speaker 3: I mean it'll come in, but earlier the money's close
to fifty to fifty. I mean Beck count on Denver's
like two to one. But you know, the overall volumes
kind of slow as of now, but you know that'll
pick up as the day goes on.
Speaker 4: But I don't think it's gonna be a huge.
Speaker 3: Bet game compared to others like that Dallas game the
other night, which was absolutely freaking massive as one of
the biggest wins.
Speaker 4: For US this year. Looking ahead some sharp stuff A.
Speaker 3: Little bit on over forty two tonight a little bit
indeed minus five and a half, Browns plus a point.
Speaker 4: Jags plus one and a half.
Speaker 3: Bears minus three and a half, Rams minus three and
a half, Bears under forty seven and a half, Seattle
under forty five and a half, Steelers plus three.
Speaker 1: What's been what's been the public winning on Hou's teasers
and moneyline parlay has been recently?
Speaker 4: I mean last week they weren't good.
Speaker 3: The week before they were good, I believe, I don't know,
I kind of I'm always on like kind of a
one week memory package.
Speaker 4: What was the other game?
Speaker 3: There's yeah, anything anything that beat up Survivor Bulls beat
Up actually didn't have a lot on the lines, but
Green Bear was a popular survivor. But yeah, any any
of those nine you know, seven six and ass six
to nine ten point spreads that lose outright are just
absolutely killing money line parlays and teasers, which pretty much
are the two bet type that take the most voume.
I mean on those kind of games will take a
lot more teaser money. And I'm talking a lot a
lot more teaser money and money line parlay money on
the favorites. Then you do the straight bets on any
games to tell you the truth. So and we're talking
two to three to one volume ratio. So so yeah,
games like that, those dictate your day. You know, if
the favorites of all those kind of teaser spots, those
six to nine whatever, six to fourteen point that they
all went out right where you get killed, but we
need one or two upsets or you know, one point
victories and and uh, it just it just blows.
Speaker 4: Up teasers, the money line parlays and we have a
good day.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that last last Sunday was really good, and
then Monday was good as well. With that.
Speaker 1: With that game, what's the start of college basketball season?
Like what's the handle?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Like, how is it with the lines? Is it tough
to figure out these lines?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's tough. I mean we have it.
Speaker 3: We've won two out of three days, so I can't
complain too much. It's definitely, Uh, the toughest, probably the
toughest out of all the major sports for North American
book to book is November December basketball. I mean the
sharps are out in full full force, especially those totals.
The numbers just moved so much. We've had a good start. Well,
i'm's better than I expected. Usually usually volumes kind of
low in November and December, then I'll pick up in January.
Then I'll pick up more after football. Then March madness
goes through the roof. But volume's been good. We got
murdered Day one, had a good day too, And I
just looked at numbers and yesterday was decent too, so
but long way to go, and it's a grind. And
like I said last week, this Saturday with that a
full college football slate. If you're friends with any like traders,
I guess we call them ount even know what the
odds guys whatever, I never know what the hell of
all these guys on the stage and your good friend
leave them alone on Saturday.
Speaker 4: They're going to be on.
Speaker 3: Edge with the full slate of football, full slate at basketball.
So if you're friends with them, don't don't freaking bother them.
If you date one, don't bother them on Saturday, trust me.
All right?
Speaker 1: So interesting question, are you going to take more more
handle on an entire week of college basketball with all
these games or NFL.
Speaker 4: You mean an.
Speaker 3: NFL Sunday the week of NFL week. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he put me up to this. I'll say NFL November
November basketball versus NFL. I'll still say NFL again if
you well, if we're just talking to straight bets against
the Big three, spread money, lineer and totals, you're incorporating
props and and parlays and teasers and all this other
stuff in there.
Speaker 4: Without a doubt, NFL.
Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing, all these games, games today, games every day
in college basketball. NFL will always be kicked.
Speaker 3: A lot of public A lot of publics are sitting out.
They don't they don't start paying attention. Like I said,
it's kind of four seasons of betting. You know, you
start out it's sharps and really die hard college basketball guys.
And then you know January when slow, when football is
slowing down and the conference games kicking the gear and
you have better games, then more betters come in. And
then when football is over, people redirect their money from
football over to basketball college hoops and n b A
and NHL, and then once March madness it gets ballistic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at some of the teams.
I guess it is pretty hard for the general public
to handicap Mercer versus Lagrange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the.
Speaker 1: Average average joke.
Speaker 4: Yeah absolutely, I mean, who the.
Speaker 3: Hell knows who hell knows who's on Mercer. But that's
why it's it's so sharp driven in November.
Speaker 4: There are guys who know freaking Mercer and it ain't
not we got the number, but.
Speaker 3: Nerd and Mercyville, whatever, Mercerville or whoever that they are located.
Speaker 4: He knows that.
Speaker 2: Freaking team and that conference inside and out.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's why it starts their way in November.
Speaker 1: The old Mercer bill. If you ever you're ever in town,
stop by the baker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, start of your listeners.
Speaker 3: If everybody's from Mercer, I don't that might ignorance some
just I've been out that you have too long.
Speaker 4: I guess I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, what are you betting this weekend?
Speaker 4: Not a lot as of yet.
Speaker 3: I got a couple of nfls I got uh, I'm
fading my birds.
Speaker 4: I'm going green Bay minus one.
Speaker 3: And then I got it Steelers early at three and
a hook. So that's all for right now. Nothing else
as of this moment, and it might be some some
some guys I tail here at work. I might have
been pressing the cement button here and there, But uh,
from just what I like, that's it.
Speaker 1: I was dying if you were gonna be like I
like that point guard from Mercer. I think they'll come
under Dave, you're the best. Hey, somebody asked, I don't
know if this is like if this opens a complete
can of worms. Tighten was wondering, does government regulation apply
to bet online?
Speaker 4: We're a global brand.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. Leave it at that. Where can
we find you at?
Speaker 3: Dave?
Speaker 1: You're always a great follower or a great follow on
social media and tell her what you have up at
bet online dot agu.
Speaker 4: At Dave Mason b ol on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Come on over to bet online dot ag this weekend,
like we said, basketball is back, we have the earliest,
some of the earliest opening eyes for college hoops, some
respectful limits.
Speaker 4: We take sharp action.
Speaker 3: Big NFL weekend College football is.
Speaker 4: Winding down, so so yeah, come on over. I just
wanted to uh pile on that answer.
Speaker 3: I escape, but I you know, I always urge people,
you know, check your local laws, check your you know,
check your local laws and and and all that stuff
for you know, deciding where you're gonna bet if you
have any worries or whatever.
Speaker 4: But we're a global.
Speaker 3: Brand where license, fully licensed and regulated.
Speaker 4: We're just not inside the US.
Speaker 1: Gotcha bet online dot AG. Thank you Dave Mason for
joining us. He's the best. He's the best. Love our segments,
love having him on. Thank you Dave, and I say
it every week now. I am a customer bet Online.
I have been for years and years and years before
I get to wager talk and they just always come
out with MMA lines before anybody else. So I'll be
a customer for life. All right, we're gonna do all
around the world here, do some free plays, and then
we're going to do a same game parlay with Dan.
Joe had an emergency come up, so no Joe were
near you today, But we'll get with him next week
and update that insane LSU situation because we've had a
few more things coming. All right. Dan Ralph yesterday told
us about East Maryland or Maryland e Shore, and he
gave the He gave the spread and it was a
blowout of biblical proportions. He absolutely crushed it. I don't
even think they got to forty points. So this is
a free play for Ralph. And we're going right back
to another big blowout, Jackson State at Louisville. When I
did the graphic, it was thirty five and a half.
This has already moved to minus thirty seven and a half.
So Louisville just beat sc State one hundred and four
to forty five. Thirteen players played nobody more than twenty
two minutes. Jackson State played at Illinois. They lost one
hundred and thirteen to fifty five. And here's the stat
they got out rebounded sixty one to nineteen. So Ralph
really likes Louisville to hand it to Jackson State. We're
gonna go over a Raiders Broncos prop Michael mayer over
twenty and a half receiving all the intention is probably
going to be on brock Bowers to night. They traded
Jacoby Meers and sneaky stat here. This comes from Jesse
schule Meyer. Mayor has sixteen targets the last three games.
Raiders really struggling to run the ball. Probably gonna be
playing from behind. So Michael Maher over twenty and a
half on the receiving and then we're gonna go to
a shots on goal prop Lightning and Golden Knights. Noah
Hanafin over one and a half shots on goal. He
played in the first game of the season and he
had three. He got hurt. He returned on Tuesday, he
had three shots on goal. What I love is seven
shot attempts in both games. Both games. He's gone over
this total in six straight against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay
is twenty fifth in giving up shots on goal to
the defenseman. This is a client play. Noah Hanafin for
the Golden Knights over one and a half shots on goal.
All right, Dan well In here we got a same
game parlay that we're gonna build. What we're doing, What
are we doing?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: I think the chat is on board with us. We
expect this Raiders team to struggle. We expect some play
from behind. I just thought Gino Smith to throw an
interception was gonna be just to you know, almost a lock.
But the books agree and it's just priced way, way
too much. So I think we're gonna be focusing on
a Broncos win and we want to get some garbage time.
So let's pull up.
Speaker 5: Let's let's pull up garbage time, prop Betters. Garbage time
is the best time.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Like, if it's forty two to ten in
the fourth quarter and guys are watching, they have bets going,
so we're gonna go. Michael Mayer twenty five plus receiving.
We went over why and we just think if they
try and really cover brock Bauers, someone's gonna be open.
So we like Mayor to have twenty five plus. You
like Trey Tucker four plus receptions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't want people to get like too
caught up in the departure of Jacoby Myers because he
really wasn't that heavily featured in this offense. That's partially
why he was dealt. It just was never quite really
there with with he and Gino Smith as far as
you know, being on the same page, who Gino Smith
was on the same page as their downfield threat and
figuring playing from behind Trey Tucker now rising in some
target share in this offense. Even before when Jacoby Myers
was still on this squad, he was getting targets like four, six, five, six,
you know alone two here and there, but then nine targets,
eight targets, especially in games that they're trailing in, so
he's a guy who gets featured often. So I like
the four or more receptions for Trey Tucker. I was
eyeing his yardage, but it's really hard to predict his
yardage because he's so boom or bust as far as
if he's gonna get a long shot or not. But
I think they're gonna use him a little bit more
as a possession receiver since Jacoby Myers has kind of
vacated that spot. So lots of targets this tonight, and
I think Trey Tucker will get at least five or
six looks his way and he hauls.
Speaker 3: In for him.
Speaker 1: I mentioned bo Nick's two plus passing touchdowns yesterday. He's
playing much better now, especially with the production Fantasy points props.
He's gone over this in three straight games played against
Read twice, had two and three in those Raiders not
very good. Well, I mean they're just not getting anywhere
on defense, so they're getting a really really good price
here of bow Knicks two plus passing tds. And did
you just pile on the Raiders? You like JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And this one is kind of the one that
I was like, hey, what can we throw in there
to maybe boost this up a little bit, get some
nice plus money, because when you're doing the same game parlay,
you know, this is pizza money that you're sprinkling. You
don't just want, you know, just like a three to
one or something like that. So that's why we throw
in JK. Dobbins. And it's not like the guy has
been scoring much.
Speaker 4: He hasn't been.
Speaker 2: Getting in the end zone.
Speaker 1: RJ.
Speaker 5: Harvey is kind of taking a couple touchdowns away from
him these last few weeks. But this is more how
it matches up and how this game script will go
VERSU Raiders defense, who in all but three games this
year has allowed the starting running back to score a
rushing touchdown. So you know, I think JK. Dobbins will
be featured they get around the goal line. You know. RJ.
Harvey is the guy who they typically go through the
air with since his kind of little emergence there. JK.
Dobbins is the ground and pound if they are in
fact up on the Raiders, JK. Dobbins is going to
be featured pretty heavily. And we saw last week against
the Jaguars. You know you're able to break tackles against
this team, you're able to get some movement around the
goal line. So yeah, we clearly like the Broncos to
at least score three touchdowns in this game, which also
Andy would would lead me to be betting the over
in this game. But a nice little four piece there
for you that I think kind of makes sense. If
the game script that we have is wrong, these still
have a chance to go even if it's a back
and forth kind of affair. So I think this isn't
reliant on one solo game script, which I kind of
like about our SGP.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's your eight to one same game parlay that's
going to do it for us on today's show. Thank
you Dan for jumping in, and thank you to Yanni,
thank you to Dave Mason, thank you guys for watching again.
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