1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,639 Speaker 1: Hello, Shirley fans, We're going back to nineteen eighty one 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,119 the band Ario Speedwagon, the album High in Fidelity Without 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,039 further ado. Here are your hosts, Jason Covin, d Graves 4 00:00:15,279 --> 00:00:17,199 and my good friend Doug Gray. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: Let's get some Okay, here's the problem, doctor. We have 6 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:25,160 this new season of the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast, 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,320 and we're starting off with Ario Speedwagon. I dreamed up 8 00:00:28,839 --> 00:00:31,160 a perfect guest host to come on the show, but 9 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:35,679 it's not real. I just made him up. Can you 10 00:00:35,719 --> 00:00:36,079 help me? 11 00:00:37,039 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: No problem, D, because I have Doug Gray here to 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,039 guest host on the Ario Speedwagon episode with us. That 13 00:00:44,119 --> 00:00:46,359 was a nice Kevin Cronin invitation you had right there. 14 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I was inspired. Guys. Welcome back 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,520 to season seven seven Lucky seven. Hello everybody. Gosh, I 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,439 can't believe it's been We're embarking on our seventh year 17 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:02,039 of doing this really amazing. Yeah. Started in We actually 18 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:05,519 started in twenty nineteen, recorded a bunch, released our first 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,840 episode January of twenty twenty. For when we're recording now, 20 00:01:08,879 --> 00:01:11,280 it will be exactly six years ago. 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,439 Speaker 3: We spent like five hours recording a three parter on 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,799 Back to the Future and Raiders of the Lost Stark 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,439 and when we got done, we're like, this sucks. Delete 24 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,280 start over. We've come along the way as I think, 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:23,959 I hope we have. 26 00:01:24,079 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: We have, we have, and as one of the things 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,879 that comes along with, you know, a longevity and continued 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,599 success is advertisements. 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And then you had something 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,240 else that we needed to talk about. 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: I mean the merch store. Man, when do we give 50 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:24,800 this merch store? 51 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,159 Speaker 2: So go to shopify. There should be Jason is putting 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,280 links in the show notes to our merch store. You 53 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:33,840 can get a surely you can't be serious t shirt hat, 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,560 no bikini bikini, that was it. It was a big sweatshirt. 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,439 All kinds of stuff. Yes, so check that out. You 56 00:02:41,479 --> 00:02:43,879 get you can even get little stickers for your car, 57 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:45,000 your computer or whatever. 58 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Well, today, d we have our good 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,840 friend who we've known for I've known him for decades. 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,800 You've known him for probably a decade. 61 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,439 Speaker 2: Or maybe probably yeah, probably. 62 00:02:55,199 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: More, mister Doug Gray. 63 00:02:57,199 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: Thanks Scott. 64 00:02:58,159 --> 00:02:59,879 Speaker 2: Not longtime listener, first time. 65 00:02:59,759 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: Get That's exactly what I was just say, longtime listener, 66 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:04,800 first time caller. Glad to be on the air with you, guys. 67 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:08,719 Jason and I have talked about albums. He's been wrong 68 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:12,120 most of the time, whether we talk about Michael Jackson 69 00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:17,039 or Bon Jovi or whoever def Leppard. Yeah, but yeah, 70 00:03:17,039 --> 00:03:19,280 I've been listening since the first season, been a Patreon 71 00:03:19,319 --> 00:03:21,400 member for a little while and really enjoy it. But 72 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,879 Jason mentioned that you're going to talk about one of 73 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,520 my favorite bands, a band I've seen in concert many times, 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,840 and so looking forward to jumping into that. 75 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:31,439 Speaker 2: Very good. 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: Actually, Doug was one of the first guys way back 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,159 when he and I would kick around whether Thriller or 78 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:38,560 Bad or pyromani or Hysteria was better. 79 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:41,599 Speaker 4: And yeah, Jason couldn't have been more wrong. He could 80 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:43,800 have tried, but he would not have succeeded. 81 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: Jason would routinely send me texts where Doug was singing 82 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:50,120 my praises, like Jason has got this wrong and you've 83 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:50,960 got it right, And. 84 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: I was like, I know, I stand by my judgment. 85 00:03:55,919 --> 00:03:57,759 By the way, we've got this right. Here. This is 86 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,479 what we're talking about today. This is the best selling 87 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,120 album of nineteen eighty one. 88 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: Thank you. 89 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:08,719 Speaker 3: This is Ario Speedwagon High Infidelity. 90 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: Best selling album forty five years ago this year. 91 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,439 Speaker 3: That's right, crazy, forty five years ago. Ten times Platinum 92 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:19,360 Diamond is the certification it got awesome. And I've got 93 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:22,439 a little note here. It says it's spent fifteen weeks 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,480 at the number one album like the top of the 95 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,759 Billboard two hundred non consecutive, was broken up a little 96 00:04:27,759 --> 00:04:31,160 bit by Styx's Paradise Theater, which you'll probably remember best 97 00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:33,120 of Times and some good songs on that one. But 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,120 it's one of only twenty seven albums and seven rock 99 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,040 acts to do that. One of the other rock acts 100 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:42,839 to have over fifteen weeks at the number one Billboard 101 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,120 two hundred is Fleetwood Max Rumors album, which we are 102 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,959 going to be covering this season in just a few 103 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:50,600 short weeks. 104 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, matching it up with Eagles Hotel California. Come, I mean, 105 00:04:55,199 --> 00:04:58,000 come on, that's a matchup made in heaven right there, 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,800 That's what that is. I'm gonna have a hard time 107 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:00,399 on that one. 108 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: It's going to be amazing. That mean, it's two of 109 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:04,120 the greatest albums I've ever made. 110 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: Right well, speaking of greatest albums ever made, this is 111 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:12,560 the album. Hey, eleventh time is the charm. This band 112 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,759 had been around forever, and eleventh album it really was 113 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:19,480 kind of the well, guys, this is our last swing 114 00:05:19,519 --> 00:05:21,879 at the bat, right It's going to be this or nothing, 115 00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:23,120 And it was. 116 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: This epic was about to kick them off, so you 117 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:27,560 get out of here. Get out of here, kid, you 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,600 got no future. But I've got a quick cover story 119 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:32,959 for you. I want to tell you before we dive 120 00:05:32,959 --> 00:05:33,519 into the album. 121 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: Okay, by the way, just for those of you who 122 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:37,920 are watching on video, I just can notice this and 123 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:39,199 I want to just kind of do. 124 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Go. 125 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a nice belly you got right there, there 126 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:51,199 we go. Yeah, it's looking good. So obviously Kevin Cronin 127 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:54,560 was involved in every aspect of this album. So he 128 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,319 was the only one of the band who was there 129 00:05:56,399 --> 00:05:57,759 the day they shot the album cover. 130 00:05:57,959 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: Right. 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,519 Speaker 3: So there's this model she's putting on lips and they 132 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,040 had this guy in the background who was putting the 133 00:06:03,079 --> 00:06:06,120 record on the record player, and Kevin's like, I'm no actor, 134 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:07,680 but I know how to put a record on a 135 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,000 record player. So he's like, hey, guys, how would you 136 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,240 feel if I just jumped in and did that? And 137 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,920 they said, well, I mean I guess, so that's. 138 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: What you know. 139 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,879 Speaker 3: We've got an actor. And he's like, no, no, no, 140 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,199 that's fine, I can do it. And his rule in 141 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,519 the band was, look, I was the only one there. 142 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:23,360 If you don't like that I'm on the cover. You 143 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:24,759 got to be there to complain. 144 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: So it's it's interesting and we'll get into this later. 145 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:31,439 But here's the guy who has obviously kind of manhandled 146 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:34,480 the whole situation with this album with the album cover, 147 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,319 who wasn't an original member of the band right, who 148 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,000 got fired after the first album that he did with them. 149 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,279 But then and even in the last year, he bolted. 150 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,040 He was like, I'm not going to be Ario Speedwagon anymore. 151 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:48,480 It's going to be the Kevin Cronin band or project 152 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:52,199 or whatever. It is, still playing the Ario Speedwagon stuff, 153 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,040 but just couldn't seem to get along with the other 154 00:06:55,079 --> 00:06:57,639 guys in the band to make it a joint venture. 155 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct, Doug. You've got a story on the 156 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,199 tie this album for us. 157 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,079 Speaker 4: So for the story that with this album with other albums, 158 00:07:04,519 --> 00:07:07,160 Kevin Cronin talks about how they like to come up 159 00:07:07,199 --> 00:07:10,399 with something quirky. You know you've got He refers to 160 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,199 it as tuna. But you can tune a piano, which 161 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,720 can't tune a fish. He's got good trouble. They like 162 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:19,079 to use puns and so with this one with high infidelity, 163 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,240 you know, he tells the story that you know, they're 164 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:25,160 all going through various different difficult things, but it was 165 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:27,480 rock and roll. It was the early eighties. A lot 166 00:07:27,519 --> 00:07:30,759 of the band they were high a lot, and they 167 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,199 were not faithful to their significant others, and so he thought, 168 00:07:34,279 --> 00:07:36,600 why not high infidelity. It's kind of a play on 169 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,720 high fidelity with the sound of music. But yeah, it's 170 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,560 pretty straightforward, you know. It's it's a time where they're 171 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,240 they're living the rock and roll lifestyle. 172 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:47,519 Speaker 3: By the way, this album's released November twenty first, nineteen eighty. 173 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,360 I just want to bring this up. This is the 174 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:52,879 time of pac Man and Rubik's Cube and Mount Saint 175 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:55,839 Helens and the Empire strikes back, just to kind of 176 00:07:55,839 --> 00:07:59,319 get us where we are in the timeline forty five 177 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:02,439 years ago. Like you said, all right, were ready to 178 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:03,480 dive in the first song. 179 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: Let's go, I'm gonna look at the album here. First 180 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,800 song on the album is called Don't Let Him Go. 181 00:08:12,439 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 5: So you think your. 182 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:33,159 Speaker 2: Out? Okay, So we're starting off with and I don't 183 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:34,879 know how many times this beat has come up, but 184 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,320 this is the bo Diddley beat. It's don't boom, don't boom, 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,440 don't don't don't, don't, don't. 186 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's Bo Didly beat. And you know, Kevin 187 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,519 talks about how when he was writing this song, it 188 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,080 was always on his bucket list to write a song 189 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,240 with the Bo Diddley beat. But you know, you can't 190 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,240 just steal everything, right, So he said, essentially what he 191 00:08:51,279 --> 00:08:53,559 did was he moved an eighth note around somewhere. That 192 00:08:53,639 --> 00:08:57,000 means absolutely nothing to somebody like me. He said. You know, 193 00:08:57,039 --> 00:08:59,960 the casual listener will notice that it's a little bit different. 194 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,440 I don't, but he said that was always something he 195 00:09:02,519 --> 00:09:03,039 wanted to do. 196 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's unmistakable, and yeah, I can hear that, 197 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,480 I can hear the slight variation. 198 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,919 Speaker 3: But this seems like a great concert starter to me. 199 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: Wonderful. They've got the kind of feedback on the guitar 200 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,679 going with a nice swell in the volume. Great, great 201 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,200 concert a. 202 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: Well, and then come in hard with the drums before 203 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:20,799 you lead in. 204 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:21,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 205 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: Great, And this is a banger man. This is a 206 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:45,240 great kickoff to the album. I love this song. I 207 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,279 think it's awesome. It's radio friendly, it's great for concerts. 208 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,080 This was the third single released June of nineteen eighty one, 209 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,279 which I have Willey said to be the greatest month 210 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,840 in the eighties for movies. 211 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: That's true. 212 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:59,639 Speaker 3: I've said that this peaked at number twenty four on 213 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Augus Tust first of nineteen eighty one. Okay, does that 214 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,720 date stand out to you guys for any particular reason? 215 00:10:06,879 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: August first, nineteen eighty one. 216 00:10:10,879 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: Dan At that is the beginning of MTV. 217 00:10:14,799 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, that's right. 218 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: Now, then, I just want to give you the top five. 219 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,639 Keep in mind, this is the day that this peaks 220 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,720 at number twenty four on the charts. That's also the 221 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:29,679 day that MTV debuts. This is your top five for 222 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,519 August first, nineteen eighty one. Number five, You've got Elvira 223 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:41,279 by Olkrage Boys, number fourple Mile. Number four is I 224 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,279 Don't Need You by Kenny Rogers. 225 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know that one. 226 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:45,919 Speaker 2: Okay. 227 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: Number three is the theme for the Greatest American Hero. 228 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: Go back to our Greatest TV Themes of All Time. 229 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: Episode Number two is the One that You Love by 230 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Air Supply. 231 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,519 Speaker 2: Just covered them last season. 232 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 3: Go back to Got our Display episode and number one 233 00:11:03,279 --> 00:11:05,120 is Jesse's Girl by Rick Springfield. 234 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a icon. 235 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:09,879 Speaker 4: So with this song, it's really interesting because you know, 236 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,159 Cronin is the one who wrote the song, gets gets 237 00:11:12,159 --> 00:11:14,360 credit for that. And he talks about how most of 238 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,840 the songs that he wrote they were really about personal 239 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:19,720 experience thing these things that he was going through personally, 240 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:21,600 but this is one of the few songs that's an 241 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:25,159 exception to that. He created what he refers to as 242 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,360 a hero for the song, and this hero is an 243 00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:30,919 amalgam of the band, he said, not so much him, 244 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:35,240 but Rich Wrath, with Bruce Hall, with Alan. He said, 245 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:37,360 it's all a little bit of what's going on with 246 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,240 all of them, and it's the idea that they needed 247 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,960 people to hang with them. You know, just like you 248 00:11:42,039 --> 00:11:45,320 talked about with the label losing confidence in the band. 249 00:11:45,879 --> 00:11:48,519 You know, there's there's significant others were also losing a 250 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:51,279 little confidence in the relationship with them, and it's like, hey, 251 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,360 don't give up on us. We're still growing. Give them 252 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,399 a chance to grow and we'll come through this, okay 253 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:57,960 in the end. 254 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: I love it. Perfect beginning for the album. 255 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we read for song number two. 256 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: Here we go, song number two, Keep on Loving You. 257 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:23,639 Speaker 6: You should have seen body looking mad mad there. 258 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,279 Speaker 5: Was something missing. 259 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,919 Speaker 6: You should have known by the tone of my voice made. 260 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,399 Speaker 5: I should didn't listen. 261 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: You made, but you never. 262 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 5: Lived INSTEADY lived still in the grass. 263 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:56,879 Speaker 2: Sid wo Man, this is such a banger. This is 264 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,279 number two on the whole album for me. Wooh, this 265 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,919 is my second pavorite song on the whole album. 266 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:01,279 Speaker 4: Wow. 267 00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:04,039 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be interested to see what you number one is, 268 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,600 but I mean, okay, yeah, I can see it coming, 269 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:09,279 but this is my number one. This is the best 270 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,039 song on the album to me. 271 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,279 Speaker 4: I think you're right. And you know this song is 272 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,240 the first release off of this album, right, And I'm 273 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,639 sure Jason you'll talk more about that, but it's a 274 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,200 very different sound than anything that they had put out 275 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:26,279 to this point. To talk a little bit about how 276 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,679 how they came to this song, you know, there was 277 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,440 a lot going on we talked about in their personal 278 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:35,279 lives and rocky relationships. It wasn't just the band maybe 279 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,120 that had some high end fidelity, some high in fidelity 280 00:13:39,159 --> 00:13:40,600 by some of the spouses as well. 281 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: I mean, let's talk about it. This is Kevin Cronin's 282 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:44,559 girlfriend who's cheating. 283 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,159 Speaker 4: On him, right, and you know he's gotten wind of this. 284 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,440 It's not sitting well. And he tells the story that 285 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,039 in the middle of the night he wakes up three 286 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,039 o'clock in the morning or whatever. And he said he 287 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,120 had learned over the years, when inspiration strikes, you go 288 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,320 with it when you're writing songs. So he goes downstairs, 289 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,360 sits down at this little piano that he has and 290 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:07,960 just starts banging out the chords and has a little 291 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,480 bit of the song, and so goes into the studio. 292 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:13,879 The process for writing songs for this band, they'd go in. 293 00:14:14,039 --> 00:14:16,720 If somebody had an idea, they'd start playing it. And 294 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,000 if the other guys liked it, you know, maybe they'd 295 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:22,720 pick up their instruments they'd start playing along. If they didn't, 296 00:14:22,799 --> 00:14:24,879 they just go out in a lot and shoot baskets. 297 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,600 And he said at one point, about two or three 298 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:30,720 minutes in, he said he was in the studio by 299 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:34,200 himself on this song. So the other guys did not 300 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,440 like it at all. It was just this soft, syrupy 301 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:40,159 thing that he was playing on a piano. And then 302 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,720 finally he said, I think just to get me to 303 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:46,279 stop playing it, rich Rath picks up his guitar, plugs 304 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,000 it into a stack of amps, and just starts playing 305 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,360 just the loudest guitar riffs that he can play, and 306 00:14:52,919 --> 00:14:54,759 Kevin said, he stopped and he looked at him, and 307 00:14:54,759 --> 00:15:00,960 he goes, that is exactly what this song needs, and 308 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,799 essentially said, you've brought the power to the. 309 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,279 Speaker 2: Ballad he brought you take out. No, it's not the 310 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:20,759 same song. 311 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a folk song. 312 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:22,639 Speaker 5: It is. 313 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: It's a folk song. Rich Rath adds the power guitar 314 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:26,879 and it makes it a power ballad. 315 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: You know. 316 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:29,399 Speaker 3: Kevin Cronan brought this to the band and they're like, 317 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,080 we don't like it. He's like, well, what do you 318 00:15:32,159 --> 00:15:33,840 mean you don't like it. They're like, well, it's not 319 00:15:34,039 --> 00:15:37,000 Rio Speedwagon. He's like, well, Kevin said, I am the 320 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,120 main songwriter for Rio Speedwagon. So when I write a song, 321 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,720 it's your job to make it an Ario Speedwagon song. 322 00:15:44,279 --> 00:15:44,879 Speaker 2: So let's go. 323 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: And so they're like, okay, and now you have a 324 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,799 number one smash. 325 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,679 Speaker 2: First number one, first number one, first time they cracked 326 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:12,799 the top fifty. Right, and this band formed nineteen sixty six. 327 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,320 Eight years before that. August of nineteen fifty eight, Billboard 328 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,360 started the hot one hundred chart. Do it man, no, 329 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,639 do it? You got it? You set me up for this. 330 00:16:23,799 --> 00:16:26,559 You gave me this information. You were you asked me 331 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,080 the trivia question and I was like, I don't know. 332 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,840 You know, because you said, what was the five hundredth 333 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:35,960 song to reach number one? And I was like, when 334 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 did it start? You said August fourth, nineteen fifty eight. 335 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,159 I'm like, okay, so we didn't we have one a week, right, 336 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,200 so you you know, some stay a little bit longer, 337 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:48,159 Some thinking okay, if I just double the time, if 338 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,360 I double it, so that puts this around the seventies. 339 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:52,399 And I'm thinking, okay, I know a number one song 340 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,720 from the euro was born. It was seventy five. It's Fame. 341 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:57,879 I said, Fame. You're like, no, not good guess though, okay, 342 00:16:57,919 --> 00:17:00,559 good guess not it. And then I'm like, oh wait, 343 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:04,279 we're about to do Ario Speedwagon. It's got to be 344 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,680 can't fight this feeling. You're like almost almost close. So 345 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,640 it's keep on loving you. There you go. 346 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: This is the five hundredth number one on the history 347 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,079 of the Billboard chart, which I think is a really 348 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,000 cool It's good to little nugget there. 349 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: You know. 350 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,519 Speaker 4: In the late nineteen seventies, they had they had some 351 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,160 really good songs. They had riding the storm out, they 352 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:28,279 had roll with the changes, and then maybe one of 353 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,200 my all time favorite Ario Speedwagon songs, Time for Me 354 00:17:31,279 --> 00:17:32,599 to Fly, Time for me. 355 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:49,599 Speaker 5: Myself. I know it went to say, good fight, it's 356 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:50,279 time for me. 357 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: You know. 358 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,319 Speaker 4: So as a up and coming Supaulpa High School chieftain 359 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,559 basketball player in high school, I would have my cassette 360 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:06,519 Walkman in the locker room, and the last song I 361 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:08,759 would listen to before we went on the floor to 362 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:12,720 warm up was Time for Me To. 363 00:18:14,519 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: Yet. 364 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: And just for your benefit, you know, as we go 365 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,519 on road trips, I would listen to the Outfields play Deep, 366 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,599 which you've covered. 367 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: But check us out on Patreon. We covered Your Love 368 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:25,680 on Patreon. 369 00:18:25,759 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: There you go. 370 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: So anyway, you know, you've got these great songs that 371 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:32,720 never cracked the top fifty, and so in nineteen eighty 372 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:36,319 one they release Keep On Loving You, and it cracks 373 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,160 the top forty all right, all the way to number one. 374 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible, all the way open. Do you want 375 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:44,680 to hear the top five from March? I mean, why 376 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,079 wouldn't we was this March twenty first, nineteen eighty one. Okayyep, 377 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,559 keep in mind this is still pre EMTV and you 378 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,480 can tell by who's they're not running around on the 379 00:18:53,559 --> 00:18:56,880 top ten here, okay, so here you go. Number ten. 380 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,119 I ain't gonna stand for it by Stevie Wonder. You 381 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,359 know what a Stevie Wonder fan I am? Number nine. 382 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,240 I Love a Rainy Night by Eddie Rabbit. 383 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,519 Speaker 4: I loved that song. 384 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: Winner Takes All by Abba, Hello Again by Neil Diamond, 385 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,559 Rapture by Blondie. That's a good one, Crying by Don McClain, 386 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,000 nine to five by Dolly Parton, Iconic Now, that's a 387 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:24,559 great song. Best of Times by Styx, That's a great 388 00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:28,000 song Woman by John Lennon, and then keep on Living. 389 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,279 Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna because we do have the nitpickers 390 00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:35,599 out here, I'm gonna have to correct you. Oh, Stevie 391 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,720 Wonder was in the number eleventh spot, Thank you. Ten 392 00:19:39,839 --> 00:19:43,759 spot was taken by Barbara Streisan and Barry Gibb with 393 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,799 what kind of fool? 394 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: I don't know who I hate more, Barbara streisand or 395 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,559 Stevie Wonder. But I'm glad you're corrected me on that. 396 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say Barry Gibb. 397 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: I love Barry Gibb. By the way, this song was 398 00:19:57,319 --> 00:20:00,839 featured in the nineteen eighty two Last American version, which 399 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,839 I don't know if you've ever seen that. It is 400 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:07,839 like one of the very earliest pre Breakfast Club teen movies. 401 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:08,319 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 402 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 3: It features Diane Franklin who is in Bill and Ted's 403 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,200 and Better Off Dead and maybe one of the biggest 404 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,799 heartbreaking moments at the very end of that movie. If 405 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:19,240 you've seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about. 406 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,200 Before we move on, we have to talk about the 407 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:22,440 music video for this song. 408 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:26,079 Speaker 2: Okay, just real quick before we get to the music video. Yeah, 409 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,680 this was first single to hit the break the top fifty. Yes, 410 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:31,279 hit the number one spot. 411 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,759 Speaker 4: Yes, the record label did not want them to release 412 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:35,960 They absolutely did not. 413 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,799 Speaker 3: That just proves that nobody knows what the heck they're doing. 414 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,519 Speaker 2: He knows anything. 415 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: And it's not going to be the first time or 416 00:20:42,839 --> 00:20:46,000 the last time on this album that they disagreed about 417 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,759 what song should be released next. 418 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, let's talk about the music video, all right. 419 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: So the music video again. I heard Kevin Crona talk 420 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,279 about this. He's like, you know, we're making music videos 421 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,720 because we're supposed to make music videos, but there's no 422 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,039 real format for music videos. 423 00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: It's like, what are we doing? 424 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: He said, you would make multiple music videos on an afternoon. 425 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,599 And so when you watch this video and one we're 426 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:11,200 getting ready to talk about here in a minute, you've 427 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,599 got this ridiculous opening scene where Kevin Cronin is on 428 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,200 the couch talking to a beautiful psychiatrist. 429 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:19,319 Speaker 2: I made her up. 430 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: She's so beautiful. I can't get her out of my head, 431 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,480 and he does all this ridiculous thing. 432 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,319 Speaker 7: Here's the problem, doctor, it's this new album. I wrote 433 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:30,400 a song about a girl. 434 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: I made her up. 435 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:35,319 Speaker 7: It was only a song, but I can't get her 436 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,279 out of my mind. And every time I think of her, 437 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:41,640 I picture her with the other guys, never with me. 438 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:47,000 She's driving nuts, but she's so beautiful. 439 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,559 Speaker 3: Then they play this live song which is kind of 440 00:21:50,599 --> 00:21:53,880 in his mind, which, by the way, Kevin Cronin never 441 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,759 breaks eye contact with the. 442 00:21:55,799 --> 00:21:57,759 Speaker 2: Camera through the so disturbing. 443 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,279 Speaker 3: He's gonna keep on love and all of us, apparently, 444 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:04,680 and then at the very end he's like, okay, doctor, 445 00:22:04,759 --> 00:22:08,359 who who could this woman be? And of course it's 446 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:09,319 the psychiatrist. 447 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,519 Speaker 2: It's not just that, it's that she takes off the glasses, 448 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:15,920 she lets down her hair. She looks right at the camera. 449 00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:17,839 I had no idea. 450 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 4: Yes, this was actually the seventeenth video ever shown on MTV. 451 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: Love it nice? 452 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,759 Speaker 4: Can I mention one last thing on this song? So 453 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:33,640 one of the CDs that I would listen to in college. 454 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,319 I think it came out in the early nineties, was 455 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,119 called the Second Decade of Rock and Roll nineteen eighty 456 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,400 one to nineteen ninety one. It was the second greatest 457 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,839 Hits album. And on that there's a song. It's a 458 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,039 remake of Keep On Loving You. It's called Keep On 459 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,319 Loving You eighty nine and it's in a reggae version. 460 00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,599 If you haven't checked that out, we got to listen 461 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,319 to this, but. 462 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:26,279 Speaker 5: You did that this sun but INSTEADY said. 463 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,279 Speaker 4: Keep in mind Gary rich Rath left the band in 464 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,640 nineteen eighty eight. Yeah, this version was made in nineteen 465 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,279 eighty nine and probably was not rich Rat approved. 466 00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: I dig it, man, I like it. 467 00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: I think that rich Rath is probably cringing in his 468 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:36,039 grave right now. 469 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:37,519 Speaker 4: That's fair. 470 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 6: Hey. 471 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: By the way, before we leave the song, I sent 472 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:44,599 you guys a video clip of Kevin Cronin and his 473 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,640 daughter playing this song with like her high school vocal 474 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,079 group it's touching to me to see it. You know, 475 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440 father and her his daughter or whatever at high school. 476 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,000 But you're just looking at these high school sophomores who 477 00:23:59,079 --> 00:24:00,920 are like, who's your dad again? 478 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 4: Like well, and if you watch the video long enough, 479 00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:07,559 you're wondering how long is Kevin Cronin going to go 480 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,599 before he just has to jump in And it's not 481 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:10,200 very long. 482 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,559 Speaker 3: That's not long at all. 483 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: Okay. Song number three, this one is called follow my Heart. 484 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 6: I saw you and midnight in there you stood there 485 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,599 and you seem so same end of this shot, just 486 00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:31,559 see a hun is driving me? 487 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,519 Speaker 5: Man, shut up. 488 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: So far we're three for three. I think you got 489 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,039 Gary rich Rath really making his presence known. 490 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,519 Speaker 2: On this song. He's announcing his presence with authority. 491 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: That's right. 492 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 4: Sure. They brought you know, Tom Kelly, who's somebody that 493 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,599 they wrote with, you know, from from time to time 494 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,640 when they were struggling with what they were going to 495 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,319 put on the record. You know, they bring him in 496 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,200 and he this is consistent with a lot of the 497 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:58,519 songs that he helped them write. It's good. It's not 498 00:24:58,599 --> 00:25:00,799 one of my favorites, you know. Off all my head, 499 00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:02,880 off all my Heart, I mean, we all have to 500 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,799 make those decisions, but it gets pretty repetitive. 501 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: That's what I do to the repetitive. It kind of 502 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119 went on and on with that a little bit for me. 503 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,640 So it's it's not on my skipper yet. It's still 504 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,799 a banger, but it's not going to be one that 505 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:16,759 I put in my top tier. 506 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: Yep, man, I love this song. So you've got Alan 507 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Gratzer who plays drums. You got Neil Doty who plays keys. 508 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,839 Speaker 2: Well, those two guys, I mean we need to say 509 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,039 those are the guys that founded the band. They right, 510 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:33,480 like nineteen sixty six. They're both going to University of Illinois. 511 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:37,319 Alan Is has been playing drums for a while. Dody 512 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,039 is just really just learning how to play some Beatles 513 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:43,920 songs on the on the piano, and he's like, I 514 00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,759 need a band, and so that's that's how it begins. 515 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,920 And then do you guys know where the name comes from? 516 00:25:50,279 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: I actually do. 517 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,799 Speaker 2: It's college class. 518 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,519 Speaker 4: Right, History of transportation, right, And Dody walks into his 519 00:25:57,759 --> 00:26:03,279 history of transportation class and see Rio speed Wagon up 520 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,720 on the board real and trying to figure out what 521 00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:11,039 that is, which it basically goes back to a truck 522 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,680 that was produced by Ransom e Olds R EO. That's 523 00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:19,559 that's the father of the Oldsmobile. Yeah, nice probably heard 524 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:19,720 of it. 525 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,079 Speaker 2: And the speed Wagon is the grandfather of the pick up. 526 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,480 That's right. 527 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: That's right, And I mean was one. It was kind 528 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,720 of a sporty truck for back in the day. You know, 529 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,240 it would pick up about thirty five forty miles an hour. 530 00:26:32,079 --> 00:26:37,079 Speaker 2: It's it was produced from nineteen fifteen to about nineteen 531 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,519 fifty three. Just that random piece of knowledge there. 532 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:43,519 Speaker 3: Here you go, folks, it's fantastic you R EO speed. 533 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: Talking about Gratzer and Dodi. You know, I don't think 534 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,079 they actually knew that the other ones were musicians. At 535 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,119 the beginning. They were running around and doing something, and 536 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,079 they tell a story. They kind of went down into 537 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,960 this building somewhere dark, inner recesses of a college building, 538 00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:00,799 and there's a piano and Doty sits down and plays, 539 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,240 and Grasser's like, wait, you're a musician. And they start 540 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,160 playing songs and looking for some friends, and the band 541 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:11,160 had its birth. 542 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, interestingly, they didn't have Kevin Cronin, they didn't 543 00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:19,039 have Gary Ritrath, and so how those guys come to 544 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,039 be in the band is another interesting story, but we 545 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,880 can we can tell that story a little bit later on. 546 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: Okay, yep, sounds good. By the way, Doug, you ted 547 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,640 me up for something earlier. I just want to drop 548 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,960 this little nugget right when you have a band like 549 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,559 Rio Speedwagon who's literally been playing since nineteen what sixty 550 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,000 six you said sixty six, ye, and are still active 551 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:38,039 on the road today. 552 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:41,599 Speaker 4: Nope, not today, as of last year. As of last year, 553 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:42,680 they are no longer active. 554 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:45,759 Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, Well, during that time, you're gonna 555 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,559 you're gonna co headline and open for and tour with 556 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,640 a bunch of different bands. So here's this list. Okay, 557 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,000 prepared to have your mind blown by the amount of 558 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,640 artists that they've played with. Okay, listen to this list. Aerosmith, Styx, 559 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Ted Nugent, Kansas, Black Sabbath, zz Top, Foghead, Then Lizzie Journey, Foreigner, 560 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:17,680 Boston Hart, thirty Eight, Special, Cheap Trick, Survivor, The Cars, Chicago, 561 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,519 Mister Mister Night, Ranger, Toto, Asia, Brian Adams, Rick Springfield, 562 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,000 Lover Boy, Pat Benatar, Bad Company, Eddie Money, Steve Miller, 563 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:31,839 Don Felder, and Collective soul. Wow, that's a lot of names, 564 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,920 but that's also not a lot of bands we've covered. 565 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:34,799 Speaker 2: Baners yup. 566 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: So in nineteen I think it was nineteen ninety four, 567 00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:42,160 saw him with Cheap Trick at Mohawk Park. Great show. 568 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,559 I saw him at the Tulsa There was a floating 569 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,079 stage of river Theater amphitheater type thing, and I don't 570 00:28:49,119 --> 00:28:50,559 think they even had anybody opening. 571 00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: You know. 572 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 4: The one thing about this band, they they're a touring 573 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,160 band' That's what they did for ten years before they 574 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,759 ever had a hit. They just in the Midwest, built 575 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:03,440 this growing far Halloween, played anywhere with anybody that they 576 00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,039 could do a show. In fact, they said in the 577 00:29:05,079 --> 00:29:08,400 early days they could fill Bush Stadium with sixty five 578 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,519 thousand people as a headliner, and then two weeks later 579 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:14,319 they could go to Los Angeles and they couldn't fill 580 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,480 Whiskey a go go, you know. But as a as 581 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,000 a touring band, I think I saw him doing those shows. 582 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:22,279 Twenty fourteen, I saw a show with Chicago. I was 583 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,759 telling Jason that I went there really excited to see Chicago. 584 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,759 I'd never seen them before and was not my favorite. 585 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:33,440 I learned at that point that apparently with the Peter 586 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:37,400 Sata Chicago breakup Peter Satara, that got custody of the 587 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,240 greatest songs. 588 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: You have a great nugget about another band that they 589 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,039 played with that we've covered. 590 00:29:43,319 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm holding on to 591 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,480 that one. 592 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,519 Speaker 2: All right, all right, Song number four in your Letter. 593 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,279 Speaker 4: I love this song. You know, so I grew up 594 00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:13,400 listening to my mom play you know, music from the 595 00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:17,640 nineteen fifties, doo wop style music. This is very much 596 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960 along those lines, and so I think it's very catchy, 597 00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:26,279 interesting story. You know that it's it's a Gary Richratht song, 598 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,920 but apparently it's from Neil Dodie. You know, they're coming 599 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,960 back from somewhere on tour and he finds a letter 600 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,000 from his wife sitting on the kitchen table or whatever, 601 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,519 just saying hey, by the way I'm going and so 602 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,200 out of that heartbreak and just you know, gut wrenching agony, 603 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,799 they come up with this peppy in your Letter song. 604 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,599 Speaker 2: It's very The tune seems very like del Shannon runaway 605 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:55,039 kind of sound to it, which again it's an interesting 606 00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,319 connection since she obviously ran away. 607 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,519 Speaker 3: Yes, they all John Deere letter. Yeah, did you hear 608 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,440 who it was? So he comes home and he finds 609 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,160 this letter. Hey, I'm leaving you for this guy. And 610 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:12,000 the guy was somebody who was a drug dealer for 611 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:12,400 the band. 612 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 4: Okay, they all knew him. 613 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this guy who supplied him with you 614 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,480 know stuff. And his response was, man, I sure I'm 615 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,240 gonna miss that guy. 616 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,799 Speaker 2: That was hilarious. Man. 617 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 4: So, you know, one of the things is interesting on 618 00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,519 the on the the heels of Keep On Loving You, 619 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,599 the band was finding all the success and the record label, 620 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,880 you know, they decide, hey, we need to follow this 621 00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:39,519 with a great rock song we want to release in 622 00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,839 your Letter next, and Kevin tells the story that they 623 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,119 pushed back. They said, no, we are not releasing this 624 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,400 song next, and the band's like, I mean the record 625 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,920 label like, yeah you are, and he said, you know, 626 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,319 sometimes you just have to as a band stand up 627 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,559 for what you want. And in this case, we knew 628 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,920 this was not the second song to come off this album, 629 00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,839 and fortunately they were right. 630 00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 3: They made the right call. Now, before we get to 631 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,960 that particular song you're talking about, this music video is 632 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720 the one clearly filmed the same day that they did 633 00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,640 keep on loving you. The psychiatrist is now a secretary. 634 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,759 Speaker 2: She's typing away, you're gonna have to do a costume 635 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:19,480 very verse. 636 00:32:19,559 --> 00:32:21,559 Speaker 3: She still looks great. She's just a secretary. 637 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,759 Speaker 2: Great actress. Ye, a psychiatrist. She could do secretary. She 638 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,519 could do made up model, director's dream. 639 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:30,839 Speaker 4: No wardrone changes. 640 00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,559 Speaker 3: So this is the fourth single released July of nineteen 641 00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,319 eighty one. This reached number twenty on the High one hundred. 642 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: This is a hit. 643 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: It is okay, all right, let's get on to the 644 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,559 real bay one. 645 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,319 Speaker 2: Okay, So I told you what my number two was. 646 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720 This one is my number one. This is take it 647 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:49,640 on the run and. 648 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: Rooted from a friend you've been missing around. 649 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: They say, you got a bode. 650 00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:05,559 Speaker 3: That's what a freaking awesome song. 651 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: He says, Oh, one of the best opening lines in 652 00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:10,200 all the. 653 00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,039 Speaker 4: Fucker n you know, great story about that. So, so 654 00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,359 in the band's writing process, you know, Kevin talks about 655 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,279 how you know, Rich Rat at times would just kind 656 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,640 of go a wall for a week, ten days, two weeks, whatever, 657 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,319 and he would just hold up the house. He'd be 658 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,039 working on songs, writing stuff in notebooks, and and Kevin 659 00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,920 would go over to his house and would just kind 660 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,240 of sit with them and go through the notebooks, and 661 00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,920 and they're struggling. They just don't have anything. And rich 662 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,279 Rat tells him, well, I've got this thing I've kind 663 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:41,519 of been working on, and he just starts with heard 664 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,720 it from a friend. You heard it from a friend 665 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:45,759 who heard it from another You've been messing around, and 666 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,519 Kevin stops him right there, like, that is not just 667 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,000 the best opening line of any song we've ever written. 668 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,839 That's the best opening line of any song ever. 669 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: I would not disagree that it might be. It might 670 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,199 be a fee best was anyone whatever? And then you 671 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,119 throw in talk is cheap when the story is good. 672 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Kevin's quote on this. So Gary brought the 673 00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:24,719 song to me. As soon as I heard it, I 674 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000 knew it would be awesome. It really grabbed me by 675 00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:27,519 the nuts. 676 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,159 Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad. I'm glad it touched him in a very. 677 00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:34,159 Speaker 2: Meaningful way, in an intimate way, that's right. 678 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, he talks about how you know, I guess 679 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,079 he puts it right up there with Norwegian Wood. You know, 680 00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,480 I once had a girl, or should I say she 681 00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:44,159 once had me. 682 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: This was originally titled Don't Let Me down When rich 683 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,199 Wreth brought it to him, Kevin said, listen, man, that 684 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,880 title has been used by the Beatles. I mean it's 685 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,440 been used by one hundred people were not using that title, 686 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,280 and so he's the one. He's like, look, I love 687 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,199 your song, but we're changing it to we're calling it 688 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,599 Taken It on the Run. Yeah, he said, even though 689 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,880 it should have been called Wives on the Run, right, 690 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,960 but it's Taken on the Run. 691 00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:12,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did take It on the Run have that meaning? 692 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,280 Or did they just apply these words and make it 693 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:15,679 mean that. 694 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,159 Speaker 3: I think this whole album's about infidelity. 695 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 4: So Take It on the Run is something that you 696 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,199 hear with this band a lot, and in some interviews 697 00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,440 I've heard them talk about this idea that, you know, 698 00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,000 take It on the Run is kind of taking your 699 00:35:29,079 --> 00:35:31,679 love on the run. You've heard that in some musical 700 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,119 lines in rock band history. But they would be going 701 00:35:35,159 --> 00:35:37,519 from show to show to show, and it's this idea 702 00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:39,400 that you're taking love wherever you can get it, and 703 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,519 you're taking it on the run. 704 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,519 Speaker 3: By the way, this is the ninth video played on MTV, 705 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,760 but due to technical difficulties, the video went black after 706 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,320 just twelve seconds, and it was never finished. That was 707 00:35:50,360 --> 00:36:04,679 an omen for them on empty. I just think this 708 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,239 song is beautiful, it's catchy, it's a hit. This was 709 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,079 the second single at least March of eighty one. It's 710 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,960 a It's another great, great. 711 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 4: A great example. You know, keep on Loving You. They 712 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,519 had to fight with Epic to even get it on 713 00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,079 the record. With this one, they had to fight to 714 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:23,559 get it released. It was actually released. It debuted in 715 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:28,320 the charts on March twenty first, nineteen eighty one. So 716 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:32,760 what other significance is that date? March twenty first, nineteen 717 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,159 eighty one. 718 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: That's the date that Keep On Loving You hit number one? 719 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: There you go? 720 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 3: How about that's good one? 721 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: All right? 722 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,519 Speaker 3: Hit stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip 723 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:43,519 it over for side two. 724 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 2: This one is called tough Guys, will. 725 00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:49,599 Speaker 5: You swinging before? 726 00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: We have? 727 00:36:50,159 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 5: Like Shonna. 728 00:36:53,519 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 7: Say, Roleo, what about your promise to the Humane Woman 729 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,920 Hitters Club? I'm sorry, thanked. 730 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: I had to my own mind. 731 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,559 Speaker 2: This is another throwback melody and rhythm. This is like 732 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,840 the sixties kind of beach rock sound. What do you 733 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,719 guys think about this one? 734 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 4: I loved this song and always have. It caught me 735 00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,079 with the little Rascals lead in, which I thought was 736 00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,400 so cool. But this is a song that they've played 737 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,920 in concert since they released it. It's a great live song, 738 00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,480 you know, kind of the idea of don't get pushed around, 739 00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:50,079 don't get bullied. Kevin Cronin talks about how as junior 740 00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:51,599 hig high school kid. You know, keep in mind this 741 00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:54,559 guy is He's listed on some places as five to ten, 742 00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,159 but there's no more than five to seven of Kevin Cronin, 743 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,119 maybe one hundred and thirty five pounds, so wet. You've 744 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,039 got rock stars like John bon Jovi and Brett Michaels 745 00:38:05,159 --> 00:38:07,440 and and they're the ones that are the glam picks. 746 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,480 And then you've got Kevin Cronin, who is not what 747 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,480 you want as a poster child for eighties rock stars. 748 00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,719 So I'm guessing he got picked on a lot, and 749 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,039 this song was his way of kind of saying I'm 750 00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:19,519 getting the girls in the end. Guys. 751 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the song grabs me by the nuts. 752 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 2: I like it. 753 00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 4: So, I mean, I'll just tell you this is right 754 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,400 up there with one of my favorite songs on the album. 755 00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great one. This was never released as 756 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,480 a single, and do you know why no, because it 757 00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:38,039 had the infamous sh word that's right in the lyrics. Yes, 758 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,559 and that was not about to clear Top forty radio 759 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,239 or MTV at that time. 760 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Tipper Gore probably wasn't a big fan at this 761 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,920 and you know, I guess we had to wait for 762 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,519 Pink before we could just bleep things out on the radio. 763 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 2: I do think it is cool. 764 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 3: You get the audio clip from our gang right little Rascals, 765 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,880 and that short was called Hearts Are Thumps from nineteen 766 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:00,599 thirty seven. 767 00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: All right. Second song on side to this one is 768 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,239 called out of Season. 769 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 3: I love this song too, man, this is a great one. 770 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 4: I do too. It's very hooky when you get into 771 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,320 the chorus of courses hooky. It is very reminiscent of 772 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,039 the nineteen seventies reo Speedwagon sound. I think this is 773 00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:37,679 one they brought Kelly in to work with Kevin Crodon 774 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,679 to write, and one of them worked on one part, 775 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,719 one of them worked on the other. You crammed it together. 776 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,360 They worked it out, you know, work some of those things. 777 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,960 I'm like, yeah, they they just kind of forced it. 778 00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:50,519 You've got season, reason? What other words can we come up? 779 00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: Please? 780 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,159 Speaker 4: Reason? 781 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,119 Speaker 1: You know? 782 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 4: So I've heard Kevin Croton say that that, you know, 783 00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:00,400 some songs are inspirational and some are just created, and 784 00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:03,079 this is one that's created. It's a fun song, probably 785 00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,920 fun in concert. Maybe not one of my favorites on 786 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,280 the album. 787 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,159 Speaker 2: Again, so what strikes I agree with you. The body 788 00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,280 of the song is not super impressive. I really like 789 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,199 the intro riff that Gary Richrath is doing there. It's 790 00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:17,960 kind of to me him showing off a little bit. 791 00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:20,280 And you, guys, do you know who the original singer 792 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,440 for Rspedwaing was? 793 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,599 Speaker 4: It was Terry Latrell right right, and he was on 794 00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:27,159 their first first album, my first instance. It was through 795 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,559 nineteen seventy two, so the first five years, however, many albums. 796 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 2: That was okay. They got Gary along the way there. 797 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,719 Gary had seen them perform live and he was just 798 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,079 this young kid who liked to play guitar and wanted 799 00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:43,400 a band. He pursued them lived literally like ran down 800 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,880 the road with his guitar case after their show, going 801 00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,679 hey guys, wait, wait, wait, guys, wait wait. And he 802 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,679 was so you know, kind of adamant about being He's like, 803 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,440 you guys, gotta let me do the band. They're like well, 804 00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:55,559 let's see, let's see what he can do. 805 00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 4: Give him a shot. 806 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,159 Speaker 2: And it turns out he's Gary richrathth he's amazing. Turns 807 00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:01,840 out he could play yeah, yeah, and he's so good 808 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,599 that within a very short amount of time, he's leading 809 00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:07,199 the band. He's writing the songs, he's writing the music. 810 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:08,519 He is the man. 811 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:14,880 Speaker 4: Yep, you know. So the band's touring, they've lost Latrell, 812 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,760 they need a lead singer, and so where do you 813 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,000 go to find a lead singer? Well, you look for 814 00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:25,719 a war posted in a store window. And Kevin Cronin 815 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,920 was a singer without a band. He had been a 816 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,119 folks singer through the late sixties early seventies, but needed 817 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,960 somebody to play with, and so he created this ruse. 818 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,320 He was a essentially like a placement agent yeh or Risian, 819 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,639 that's right, a singer broker. And so he created all 820 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,079 these flyers. He went around and put them up in 821 00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:52,079 store windows in Champagne, Illinois, and the band called him 822 00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:53,960 up his phone numbers on there. They said, we need 823 00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,440 a lead singer. Is there somebody that you can can 824 00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,000 help us find? Told him a little bit of that, 825 00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,679 and he's like, yeah, I I think I might be 826 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,320 able to find somebody. And the minutes later it came 827 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,559 over and it was him. 828 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, genius, Yeah, make a flyer. 829 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,159 Speaker 3: Let's make a flyer and I'll create this fake company 830 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,079 that promotes myself prettyvious. 831 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,079 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. Yeah, now you know that is I 832 00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:21,280 think qualifying material for the Accidental Legends, no doubt. 833 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:21,559 Speaker 1: Right. 834 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,559 Speaker 2: Shout out to our new friends our podcast, Matthew and Dirk. 835 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:29,760 You guys should go check out Accidental Legends. But that's 836 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,840 right up the alley, like just no chance of making it. 837 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,159 Both of these guys, no chance of making it. And 838 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,599 then they become the leaders of. 839 00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 3: The primary songwriters for the band. Now, Gary Richrath ended up. 840 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,639 He died in twenty sixteen, but he got kicked out 841 00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:45,960 of the band in nineteen eighty nine. 842 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: His drug addiction was it was unbearable at that point. Yeah, 843 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,119 and they had all been through it. And Kevin Cronin 844 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,519 talks about this. At his wake up moment, his and 845 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,480 I say wake up. His wife woke him up and said, hey, 846 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,320 we're going to go to the beach with the kids, 847 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,159 and he's like, no, I'm not going to go without me, 848 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,679 and so she leaves, takes the kids to the beach 849 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,800 and it's ten am and he's opening the door to 850 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,000 the liquor cabinet, and it's just this realization of is 851 00:43:14,119 --> 00:43:16,519 this who I am that at ten o'clock in the morning, 852 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,199 I'm choosing to drink instead of be at the beach 853 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,079 with my wife and children. And so at that point 854 00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,360 he's like, I'm turning it off. I'm cleaning my life up. 855 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,440 He influenced the rest of the guys over a period 856 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,719 of time, and everybody had their own kind of struggles, 857 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,159 but Gary was the one who just he was like, 858 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,599 I don't understand this. We're rock and rollers. We're supposed 859 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,239 to live like this. What you guys are doing doesn't 860 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,239 make any sense, right. But then obviously that didn't work 861 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,039 out very well for him. 862 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: No, And you know it's interesting because you know, then 863 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,079 they have to find a replacement guitarist, and David Motto 864 00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,519 comes in as he's got chops of his own. That's 865 00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:57,199 who I've only known when I've seen them live, and 866 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,679 he does a great job. But he said, you know, 867 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,119 when they first reach out to him to become the 868 00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:06,159 lead guitarist, he thought, I'm looking at all these Richrath 869 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,440 songs and there's at least one, if not two guitar 870 00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:12,159 solos in every one. So why wouldn't I want this gig? 871 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? I mean and rich Trath is really a 872 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,880 genius guitar player. He's really, really good. 873 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,559 Speaker 3: He's really good. 874 00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:21,079 Speaker 2: It's just that his demon's got the worst of him 875 00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,320 and he couldn't keep up the recording schedule. 876 00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:27,079 Speaker 3: Okay, I've got a great Kevin Cronin Gary Richrath story. Okay, 877 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,559 so this is years after he had been kicked out 878 00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,679 of the band. VH one had tried to kind of 879 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,280 get them together and try to finagle something where they're 880 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,000 in the same room, and it ended up blowing up 881 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,159 in their face, like they pushed back. I don't want 882 00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,159 to see that guy and all that stuff. Well, some 883 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,880 years later, Kevin Cronin reaches out to Gary Richrath and says, hey, man, 884 00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,639 let's go to lunch and I'll give you every opportunity 885 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,840 to lay into me and let's just get it all 886 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,639 out on the table. Let's see if we can't work 887 00:44:50,679 --> 00:44:53,599 through this, and let by God speed bag guns. And 888 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,559 he knew that Gary Richrath was not doing well health wise. 889 00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:00,920 I don't think he was doing well financial and Ario 890 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,920 Speedwagon had recovered by then and we're actually doing some things. 891 00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:06,920 So they end up meeting. One of the things that 892 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,440 Gary Richrath would do while they were in the money, 893 00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:12,000 Kevin Cronin said he would buy these these old Les 894 00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:15,039 Paul guitars, and he was spending like five thousand dollars 895 00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:17,039 on a guitar. And at the time, Kevin Cronin is like, dude, 896 00:45:17,039 --> 00:45:17,679 you're nuts. 897 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,039 Speaker 2: What are you spending on your money. 898 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 3: On these Well those guitars go on to be worth 899 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,679 like two hundred thousand dollars like they turned out to 900 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,760 be great investments. So Kevin was like, oh, man, what 901 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,159 did I know at the time. But Kevin Cronin had 902 00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:34,000 acquired one of Gary Richrath's guitars, and he knew, you know, 903 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,159 it's one of those deals where Okay, I'm playing it 904 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,039 and then it gets put with my stuff and then 905 00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:41,000 like over the years, it just kind of becomes part 906 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:44,280 of my stuff. So he had acquired this Martin D 907 00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:48,599 twenty eight, nineteen forty three guitar, and it was this 908 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,119 acoustic guitar, and Kevin knew that it played so well 909 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,440 and it was really the only guitar that played like 910 00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:57,320 the way he liked it. 911 00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:01,199 Speaker 2: The Martin guitars are the top of the tier for 912 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,119 acoustic get okay. 913 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 3: So during the lunch, Gary Richrath made it known that 914 00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:10,159 I you know that guitar and want that guitar back. 915 00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: It's mine. I loaned it to you, right, I give 916 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,800 it to you right. 917 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,519 Speaker 3: And so, as Kevin said, he tried everything like, dude, 918 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,719 this guitar is it makes the sound I want and 919 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,679 it's the one that I use when I play take 920 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239 it on the run, and I, you know, please anything. 921 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,440 But and it was one of those deals where I 922 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,400 was like, no, I kind of want that back. So 923 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,079 Kevin came up with a scheme. Back at his house, 924 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,559 he had a nineteen fifty one Fender telecaster. 925 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,079 Speaker 2: Okay. 926 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 3: He said that it's actually the year before it became 927 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,559 like they officially made it's so it's not really a telecaster. 928 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,840 Guitar collectors know it as as a nocaster, so it's 929 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,639 like the year prior to it being a telecaster. And 930 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,800 he said it was awesome, It's beautiful. It's amazing. And 931 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,679 he's like, maybe if I show up at lunch, Gary 932 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,440 will say, Okay, where's my acoustic and Kevin's like, oh, 933 00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,480 you know, I got this other one that maybe we 934 00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,960 can you know, and he pulls it out and Gary's like, 935 00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:14,360 that's mine too, Like crap he brought. He loses his 936 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,559 two guitar guitars in the same lunch. 937 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,639 Speaker 2: So fantastic. That's a good story, all right. 938 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 3: Next song on the album. 939 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:43,559 Speaker 2: Okay. This one's called Shaking It Loose Beyond Okay. 940 00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 3: So this is a guitar rocker, but this is also 941 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,199 a piano rocker. Man, you got the they got. They're 942 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,840 rolling their hands down the piano and it's making a 943 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,480 great song. I don't I don't know, what do you think? 944 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 2: I like this one. It's fine, it's fun. It's not 945 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,760 something that I'm gonna go pull and listen to. 946 00:47:58,039 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 3: It's a step down it is. 947 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 4: You know What's what's funny? You know when you get 948 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,960 into the chorus and you're gonna shake shake, shake it 949 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,960 it loose, and I I immediately start to picture like 950 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,599 sixteen Candles when they're at the dance and you've got 951 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,199 Joe Q sack and back brace and she's dancing. You know, 952 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,800 this is exactly the kind of song that you would 953 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,400 have in kind of the background of one of these 954 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,920 John Hughes High School. 955 00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:22,519 Speaker 2: I could see the scenes. I could see that. 956 00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Doug, I'm teeing you up because you 957 00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,760 told me the most amazing story about Reo speed Wagon 958 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,440 in the later days before they had made their recovery, right, so. 959 00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about you know, rich Rath was 960 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,320 asked or left the band however you want to look 961 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,159 at it. In the late nineteen eighties and they were 962 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,079 trying to get started again. They had put out an 963 00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,159 album something about it. You know, it's like a man 964 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,280 Chicken and his Dog and a Chicken, you know, great 965 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,199 album titles. But they were basically kind of rock bottom 966 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,000 and we're trying to build their way back up. 967 00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 2: And so they were. They were sharing the stage in 968 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,679 Mexico with the Ventril. 969 00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 4: The ventrilo quist. That's in nineteen ninety three. So a 970 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,440 year before that, nineteen ninety two, they get booked to 971 00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:11,119 do a gig in Colombia and they are the opening 972 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:17,719 act for Milli Vanilli. Now this isn't the produced Milli Vanilli. 973 00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:22,280 This is after the scandal, after the Grammys are taken away, 974 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,760 and you're getting the real Milli Vanilli and you're the 975 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,559 opening act, so they literally were coming back from rock bottom. 976 00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 3: They were below somebody who is rock bottom? 977 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 4: That's right. And you know what's interesting is by by 978 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,719 about nineteen ninety three, when they're sharing the stage with 979 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,239 the Ventriloquist, they finally said, you know, we're done, and 980 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,519 they announced we're gonna stop touring. And it's kind of 981 00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:52,400 this final tour thing, and all of a sudden people 982 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,719 start showing up again, and it's like the band gets 983 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,840 their second wind and has been you know, they played 984 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,679 for twenty more years after Crazy. 985 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 2: Next time the album, this one is called Someone Tonight. 986 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,960 You got it. This does not sound like Kevin Cronin to. 987 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 4: Me, this is not This is Bruce Hall, which is 988 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,039 interesting because Kevin Cronin Rich Rath at this time they 989 00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:35,719 were writing almost everything. They bring Kelly in a little bit. 990 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,480 But Kevin said they like to have a song for 991 00:50:38,679 --> 00:50:41,599 Bruce on every album. You know, he felt like if 992 00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:44,159 they had more songwriters, it made him a better band, 993 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,639 It made each of them better. But in my mind, 994 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,920 it's a lot like the Beatles. And you know, I 995 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,760 was listening to Apples and Oranges. Shout out to to 996 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,840 Deaf Day, Dave and they're talking about how the Beatles 997 00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:57,760 used to always have a song for Ringo on the album, 998 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,280 and so to me, this is the Ario Speedwagon's similar situation, 999 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,320 a song for Ringo. 1000 00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 7: Well. 1001 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 2: Number one, Ringo songs were usually pretty dang good. Okay, 1002 00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,119 I've just got to say that Ringo songs were usually 1003 00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:13,079 some of the better songs. Number two, I like this song. 1004 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,440 I didn't I do. I think this song is great. 1005 00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:18,719 And number three, even if I didn't like it, I 1006 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,280 would lie about it because Bruce Hall is a sooner boomer, 1007 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,880 super freaking sooner. 1008 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 3: I love it. 1009 00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:27,559 Speaker 2: No, but I'm not lying. I really, I really do 1010 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,599 enjoy the song. This is not uh, I'm fine that 1011 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,519 it's not Kevin singing. It's a it's a good beat. 1012 00:51:33,639 --> 00:51:34,920 It's a good I like it. 1013 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 4: I like it, I like I actually like Bruce Hall's voice. 1014 00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:45,480 It's a change of pace. Kevin Cronin has a very 1015 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:49,119 unique voice. I was telling Jason, it reminds me a 1016 00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:51,920 lot for those who listen to contemporary Christian music in 1017 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,199 the nineteen eighties and nineties, reminds me a lot of 1018 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,599 Michael W. Smith with the nasal sound to it, the 1019 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,119 same local range. Yeah, but It's nice to have a 1020 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,880 change of pace here. I like the song. I'm not 1021 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,480 gonna skip it. It's not my favorite, but I would. 1022 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,559 Speaker 2: Call this an undiscovered gym on the album. I mean, 1023 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,159 I don't think a lot of people know about this song, 1024 00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:10,760 and I think it's good enough to call it a gym. 1025 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,639 All right, last one, here we go, all right, last 1026 00:52:13,679 --> 00:52:15,679 song on the album. This one is called I Wish 1027 00:52:16,039 --> 00:52:17,719 You Were There. 1028 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,199 Speaker 4: Where You Can Go. 1029 00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,559 Speaker 2: I can see this being a closing song. This is 1030 00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:49,599 to me, this is like Take It to the Limit 1031 00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:52,360 from the Eagles. It's just got that kind of big 1032 00:52:53,159 --> 00:52:56,639 epic drive to it of we're finishing off, We've had 1033 00:52:56,679 --> 00:53:00,360 a great show. This is our farewell to you song. 1034 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. So, Kevin said he wrote this when he was 1035 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,519 still living with his parents, and it was a song 1036 00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,639 that he had bits and pieces of, but he never 1037 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,159 could get it to the finish line. And he said, 1038 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,039 as they were making this album, they were coming together 1039 00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:16,400 in the studio, it was almost like it was a 1040 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,159 spiritual experience for them, and that was kind of the 1041 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,880 spiritual inspiration for him to finish. This song not one 1042 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,760 that I think you're going to hear in a concert. 1043 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,159 I agree I think it's a great way to close 1044 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,280 the album, right before I fast forward on the tape 1045 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,599 deck and go right back to the first song on. 1046 00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 2: The other side. 1047 00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:38,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it too. It is a good closer. 1048 00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:39,840 It's a good closer to a great album. 1049 00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: Well, guys, that's it for Ario Speedwagon. Come back for 1050 00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:45,800 us next week. We are going to be talking. We're 1051 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,280 going to have two guest hosts on that episode. 1052 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,760 Speaker 3: We are Tim ev and Brad Moore, both huge. 1053 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 2: Rush fans, and we're going to be talking about Rush's 1054 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,800 moving pictures and at the end of that episode give 1055 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,199 you our final judgment on bitch of these two albums. Doug, 1056 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,239 thanks for being here, man. 1057 00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely, thanks for the invitations. Great to see you. Love 1058 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:08,800 talking about Oreo Speedwagon. 1059 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 2: All right, we will see you guys next week. Thanks guys, 1060 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,280 you're the worst improv ever to one of my I 1061 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,599 didn't know. I have no idea who you're talking about. 1062 00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:31,280 And Doug and raise his hand, you can say we 1063 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,960 have the perfect like I've got nothing, all right, all right, right, 1064 00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:37,280 I wasn't sure what you my best delivery on the 1065 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,039 first run and that's what you got. You're gonna I 1066 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,559 don't know. I don't think right right right, Hang on