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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen? What What's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>What? Alady, folks? Your host double j back here, hosts

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<v Speaker 2>of Operation g c D not the Vice President, Back

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<v Speaker 2>for another Fridays Here with my co host Nick from

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<v Speaker 2>The Occult Rejects. Nick, how do would sir?

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<v Speaker 1>What up?

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<v Speaker 2>How is?

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>Doing well? Doing well? Excited for another Friday's? My friend?

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<v Speaker 2>How's the Your future must be so bright just like

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<v Speaker 2>my own that you gotta wear shades. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured i'd i'd be like you tonight and with

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<v Speaker 1>the sunglasses.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the reasons why.

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<v Speaker 1>Besides that people can't see how stone damn.

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<v Speaker 2>You now you're out of my treks for endless not

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<v Speaker 2>the vote, all the secrets something secrets we got, We

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<v Speaker 2>got our shapeless guests tonight Here Tim Constant team from

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<v Speaker 2>the Sixth Sensory Podcast. Tim, appreciate you joining us here, Bud, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely with Jades, we Nick and Nick and I just

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<v Speaker 2>like to have a you know, a relaxed roundtable discussion

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<v Speaker 2>on whatever, you know, conspiracy culture topics that come up.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already kind of started that backstage here before the show,

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<v Speaker 2>so we can kind of jump off there if you'd like,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can first introduce yourself and your podcast, the

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<v Speaker 2>Sixth Sensory Podcast to the audience here. I've only recently

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<v Speaker 2>familiarized myself with your program when Nick introduced me to

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<v Speaker 2>the show a couple weeks ago, and definitely like your style,

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<v Speaker 2>talking some giant stuff, talking some my own stuff, talking

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<v Speaker 2>some satanic coult stuff I caught on there. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely definitely appreciate you joining us. And what else goes

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<v Speaker 2>on at the sixth Centsury Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, definitely ancient cultures, all that stuff of hidden history,

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<v Speaker 3>history and mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I should have put a pause there. What I meant

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<v Speaker 3>to say was, sometimes it's just regular history, sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>hidden history. But also I like to dive into the

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<v Speaker 3>alternative theories on things and just conspiracy in general, and

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<v Speaker 3>a cult, actually a cult pops up a lot, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, that's what I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. How long you've been doing that for sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>Sensory Podcast and podcasting in general. I've been doing it

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<v Speaker 3>for since December of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice, What did you did you have something before sixth century. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I did not. I had no idea, you know, five

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<v Speaker 3>years ago that I'd be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah what what what caused you in life to get

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<v Speaker 2>down with a sick, twisted path of hosting a podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>There too?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a lot of a lot of things, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm mean, you know, I hate to say it because

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's kind of like regurgitated old news at

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<v Speaker 3>this point, But it really was twenty twenty that pushed

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<v Speaker 3>me over the edge. You know, I was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I had one foot in the door already. I love

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<v Speaker 3>Coast to Coast am I listened to that for years years.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched Jesse Venture Conspiracy Theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that show how much?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you know, and I just, always, like I said, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I always had my foot in the door. I always

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<v Speaker 3>knew the elites were lying to us. I just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize the extent of it until it kind of slapped

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<v Speaker 3>me in the face in twenty twenty. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't buy what they were selling, man, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get what they were trying to make me get. I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't fall in line, I didn't trust the science. And

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<v Speaker 3>I got real mad because I saw everybody around me

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<v Speaker 3>was the only people who I noticed who were vocal

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<v Speaker 3>about not doing all this stuff that we were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to be made to do. We're podcasters. Sure, So I

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<v Speaker 3>gained a large amount of respect for the podcasting community

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<v Speaker 3>during twenty twenty, specifically people in this you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>whatever we want to call it, conspiracy realm. I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people stand up, get their get their

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<v Speaker 3>channels taken down, you know, have all kinds of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, money taking away from them, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I saw that people were still willing to say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the jab and all that, we're not doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>People stood up and vocalized it. So that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>got me into it. I was like, okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>every every normy I know, I can't even talk to

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<v Speaker 3>about this stuff. So I started a podcast so I

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<v Speaker 3>could talk to other people who had, you know, same mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, keeping it sane, my staring some ideas, right with

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<v Speaker 2>folks who aren't going to think you're insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, Yeah. And I started researching in twenty two

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<v Speaker 3>so and I just never stopped. So I would say

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<v Speaker 3>that No, I was just gonna say I started the

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<v Speaker 3>show so I could kind of put out some of

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<v Speaker 3>our research too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you feel less crazy when you met more people podcasting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I thought that I was crazy until man.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's been a it's been a fun journey. Never

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<v Speaker 3>saw myself getting into this, and uh, I've I've made

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of cool friends doing it so far. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just a year in, but man, I mean I've met

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<v Speaker 3>some really phenomenal people.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you, Man, for you, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I like something that's that seems you seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing something right.

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<v Speaker 2>I I definitely like the topics you cover their too,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. This or definitely my wheelhouse of activities, the

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<v Speaker 2>ancient cultures, specifically the Mounds of America. I mean mounds everywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>but Mounds of America specifically, and uh, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>giants that were in some of those mounds, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I heard. I listened to one of your recent ones

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<v Speaker 2>Satanic colts and whatnot, because that's a big You're we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about scientology before they technically fall within that

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<v Speaker 2>thelemic umbrella of cult activity as descended from Alistair Crowley, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so they kind of fall and I mean, well, they're not, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on their face like doing satan stuff. They

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<v Speaker 2>are technically Satanic, I suppose, right, no different than the

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<v Speaker 2>Mormons are when you're professing to be a god of

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<v Speaker 2>his own planet. Right, that's kind of like the general

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<v Speaker 2>sense of satanic it, right, I mean, you went y'all

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<v Speaker 2>went deep. That's what I'm trying to explain, the general

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<v Speaker 2>sense went deep in an interview as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>a PhD level thesis of breaking down these different elements

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<v Speaker 2>of what is Satanism?

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<v Speaker 3>Was was it the one with Nicks?

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<v Speaker 2>Was?

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<v Speaker 3>Was? Was that show? Thee with a Girl?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, that was it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So yeah, man, Well that's interesting that you're bringing

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<v Speaker 3>that up, because I thought that after we did that episode,

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<v Speaker 3>I had this weird feeling that if I put it

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<v Speaker 3>out that it was going to be taken the wrong way,

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<v Speaker 3>because like, I just didn't have a filter on for

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<v Speaker 3>that show. I was just like listening to her and

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like throwing out my opinions, and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I got way way more opinionated, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was I felt like people who listened, if they were

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<v Speaker 3>into Satanism, we're just gonna hate me. In unsubscribe immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know how that came across to you,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay for Satanists to disagree with you, Tim there

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<v Speaker 2>we go. It's okay. And you guys did a great

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<v Speaker 2>job on it. I enjoyed the full scale analysis of

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<v Speaker 2>breaking down the different theological understandings of philosophical basis for

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<v Speaker 2>why these these you know, specific satanic cults congregate. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>we guys did a good job encapsulating me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, man, I mean when you look into specif

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<v Speaker 3>people like I'll just say Anton Leavey, when when you

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<v Speaker 3>look into him and you look into people who know

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<v Speaker 3>his family, who knew his girls, what you hear is

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<v Speaker 3>that they were they were very into like going onto

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<v Speaker 3>the astral plane. They're into doing that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were into like getting in contact with these

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<v Speaker 2>Uh right. And I'm glad you picked up on that

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<v Speaker 2>because most folks, when I may just interject, and most

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<v Speaker 2>folks don't, you know, they like to rid them off

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<v Speaker 2>as a carnival barker. And I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 2>salient characteristic you pointed out there on your show, is

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<v Speaker 2>he was into some weird shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, his his spirit guide. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>he called it that, but he was his his power spirit,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is what he called it was. Leviathan is

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<v Speaker 3>like an old demon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Nick, Nick would have known more about that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff than me.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Nick, have you heard that about Levey?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was told by people like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>in his circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell your guardian angel type of situation, Nick, Well, anything

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<v Speaker 2>the way he's the way Tim's describing this, Leviathan Demonto

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<v Speaker 2>to LaVey, was his power would you put what was

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<v Speaker 2>his power bottom? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Power spirit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bottom, like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was power bottom power spirit. Kind of sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>guardian angel to me. I'm not a I'm not in

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<v Speaker 2>a cult expert by any means something like that, But I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, well, you know, I don't know, like maybe later

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<v Speaker 3>we could get into some Nazi stuff, because I definitely

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<v Speaker 3>I've been studying that lately. And my point is is

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a similar thing because when you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the people who influenced the Nazis, they were very much

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<v Speaker 3>into channeling and and they had these familiar spirits, if

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<v Speaker 3>we want to call him that, that they were they rigidly.

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<v Speaker 2>Were talking to are you familiar with a group called

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<v Speaker 2>the Processed Church of the Final Judgment?

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<v Speaker 3>Not really heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're off they're an offsheet of scientology. Some some like

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<v Speaker 2>myself claim that they're a dark wing of some ontology

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<v Speaker 2>still to this day. But they, uh, they basically are

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<v Speaker 2>this machination of what you're kind of describing, Satanic cult Nazism, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so they deeply venerated Hitler and the ss Nazis. The

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<v Speaker 2>leaders of the Processed Church cult would describe themselves as

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<v Speaker 2>reincarnations of various Nazi leaders, some of which, to my account,

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<v Speaker 2>were still alive at the time of some of these claims.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how the math works on that.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it doesn't math, but to them it math.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's Satan math. I don't know. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a group that is basically the epicenter of these activities

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<v Speaker 2>are discussing here, the Satanic cults and the Nazism.

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<v Speaker 3>So so they were like channeling Dad slashed alive still Nazis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know what. Yeah, they claim to be

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<v Speaker 2>the reincarnated versions of these things. Things they do, they

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<v Speaker 2>do do channeling those they do have alien overlords as well,

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<v Speaker 2>So why wouldn't they.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, man, I hadn't heard that. That's that's wild.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean what episode was Is there a Scientology Scientology

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how they started off. So the leaders were

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<v Speaker 2>allegedly like the the main leader was him and his

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<v Speaker 2>wife Robert Mariannea Grimston, as the legend goes he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were auditors in Scientology, so they were

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the clergy class over there in London at the

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<v Speaker 2>Scientology Center. That's where Old al Ron was living at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, in the early nineteen sixties. He was on

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<v Speaker 2>the lamb from the irs here in America and lord

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<v Speaker 2>knows what else, but he's over there, and allegedly Robert

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<v Speaker 2>and Grimston was one of his assistants, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was close to Elron circle over there within the

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<v Speaker 2>hierarchy of you know, Xenu territory of the Mayfair District there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Scientology Ville, which is where the processed

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<v Speaker 2>church he erupts from, is the Mayfair District.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help but see Scientology through the lens of

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<v Speaker 3>l Ron Hubbard and his you know mingling with Jack

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<v Speaker 3>Parisans from the four late four that's that. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 3>me is like a quintessential story of how and I

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't see this talked about or pointed out much.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody seems to point out the fact that l Ron

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<v Speaker 3>Hubbard was hanging out in the desert with magicians and

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<v Speaker 3>occultists doing bastardized versions or I don't know, sometimes just

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<v Speaker 3>doing croley in magic and uh, that had to have

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<v Speaker 3>affected him in starting the church later, right, like he

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<v Speaker 3>was into magic before he was started Scientology.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean his own son would claim this later, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with those interviews with not al Ron

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<v Speaker 2>Look it is Alron J. He changed his name to

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<v Speaker 2>something else, but he would make these claims that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all of this chrolism delema was deeply rooted

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<v Speaker 2>in in Scientology's framework.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean you know they to it to maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like air this out and and maybe like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>drain some of the conspiracy for people if you can

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<v Speaker 3>go and you can read about the Babylon working because

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<v Speaker 3>because Parsons documented the whole thing in his diary and

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<v Speaker 3>published it, and they went out to the Mahave Desert

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen forty six, and they did day after day

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<v Speaker 3>after day of magical workings. It wasn't like it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like one night or two nights in the desert. They

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<v Speaker 3>went out there and like really did this thing, like

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<v Speaker 3>committed to it, you know, like you know, it wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go camping in the desert and maybe do some magic,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe like tell ghost stories around the campfire. No,

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<v Speaker 3>they committed to like at least a week or two.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was like fifteen days that he documented there.

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<v Speaker 3>So like part you know all that say, Hubbard was

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<v Speaker 3>really into this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Suicide Squad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've heard them called that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was the That was the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>collecquial name for Parson and his crew. Which, ah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I have this. I have a real anointing theory

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<v Speaker 2>that all of Marvel and DC comics or the Limit

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<v Speaker 2>and Scientology fan fiction, you got the DC Suicide Squad,

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<v Speaker 2>you got these superhuman powers, which Scientology build a sixty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars structure in clear Water, Florida, called the Superpowers Building.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's you know, you have these kind of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Jack Parsons you're describing his birth name is

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<v Speaker 2>Marvel Whiteside Parsons Jackson's nicknamed, So I think that is

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<v Speaker 2>why they call it in Marvel comics.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I do when I just add to that

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<v Speaker 1>is that a suicide squad would be fitting if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I am correct when I say that magic is

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<v Speaker 1>temporary suicide, that would make sense to culture.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. So that's even a deeper nod to the

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<v Speaker 2>occultism there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. So see anything with death cults. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're only killing themselves, not anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. And are you familiar with this name tam On,

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<v Speaker 2>that same suicide squad of the Babylon markings you're describing,

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<v Speaker 2>and alf Alfred Molina. I think it's a something something

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<v Speaker 2>with Molina. We'll call him Phil Molina.

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<v Speaker 3>No, So this is what I thought about the suicide squad.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that this was Parsons group that we're working on,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, rocket stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's my understanding. It's all the same mix right there.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd invented the rocket fuel through these these same magical workings.

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<v Speaker 2>They were doing some magical workings by day and some

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<v Speaker 2>magical workings by night.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I have to look more into that. What

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing over here is I was pulling up

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<v Speaker 3>this diary that Parsons kept and it says part of

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<v Speaker 3>the ritual. So so part of the ritual that him

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<v Speaker 3>and l Ron Hubbard did was over a period of

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<v Speaker 3>eleven days from January fourth to January fifteenth, nineteen forty six.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of these days, like for instance, January fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>he puts in a journal entry and he says, January fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>a strong windstorm began suddenly around the middle of the

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<v Speaker 3>first in the cation. So I you know, if when

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<v Speaker 3>you read through this, if you just imagine these guys

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<v Speaker 3>are out in my hobby, do an invocation, and wind

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<v Speaker 3>storm picks up. And then the next day, on the

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<v Speaker 3>January sixth, he goes, Okay, this is his entry. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>invoked as before winstorm continued intermittently all day all night

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<v Speaker 3>January seventh, invoked twice when subsided they used on January

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<v Speaker 3>the seventh, apparently they used violent Concerto number two as

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<v Speaker 3>a musical background. That's that's that's interesting. That's Russian classical.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a guy named pro procole Fief. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to pronounce his name, but the composer was

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<v Speaker 3>Proca Leaf, who Rudolph Steiner wrote a book about. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're using like like cool, like like occult influenced classical music.

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<v Speaker 3>H January the eighth, he writes, invoked twice, using blood

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<v Speaker 3>this time. January ninth invoked twice, replenishing material basis okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to stop after this because I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to read every single thing here, but I've got

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<v Speaker 3>to read this one. On January the tenth, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where it gets wild, Parsons says, invoked twice. I retired

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<v Speaker 3>around eleven pm and was awakened at twelve pm by

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<v Speaker 3>nine strong rapid knocks. A table lamp at the opposite

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<v Speaker 3>corner of the room was thrown violently to the floor

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<v Speaker 3>and broken. There was no window in this corner and

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<v Speaker 3>no wind was blowing at the time. Basically, he's saying

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a poulsry ice kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like some devil shit, yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know that's how this goes, just to give

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<v Speaker 3>people a taste of what he kind of what he

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<v Speaker 3>and l Ron were up to out there. Man, it

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<v Speaker 3>gets weirder from here. I mean, like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty weird already.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so much weirder man, imagine how it's like, so okay,

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<v Speaker 3>then they so they left right, they left the desert.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually come back later in March to finish the

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<v Speaker 3>Babylon Working, because it says here the final part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Babylon Working took place over three nights from March

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<v Speaker 3>second to March fourth, with l Ron Hubberd acting as

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<v Speaker 3>scribe and Parsons acting as high priest. According to the

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<v Speaker 3>record of the events, Hubbard became a seer and a

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<v Speaker 3>mouthpiece for a vision that he had. Oh no for

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<v Speaker 3>the session. And he had a vision and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>a savage and beautiful woman writing naked on a great

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<v Speaker 3>cat like beasts was shown to me, and that this

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<v Speaker 3>crazy savage woman was like adamant that she had an

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<v Speaker 3>urgent message to like give to them. So it gets

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<v Speaker 3>into this horror of babylon like symbolism that you skip

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<v Speaker 3>see from back in the day. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 3>personally that they were tapping into maybe Ashtar.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because that's the Ishtar in Nana. She

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<v Speaker 3>was like the goddess Babylon in my opinion, and I

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<v Speaker 3>and I get that from a book from an occultist.

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<v Speaker 3>The book is called the Red Goddess. This guy took

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<v Speaker 3>seven years to write a book on the the Goddess

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<v Speaker 3>Babylon and and what he surmised was that the Goddess

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<v Speaker 3>Babylon in her earliest form was Ishtar and Anna from

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<v Speaker 3>the you know, from the Gilbermage and like the Sumerian myths,

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<v Speaker 3>and in my opinion, it seems like they may they

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<v Speaker 3>may have tapped into that.

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<v Speaker 2>So so what what do you think? Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was the product of that that Richard, what

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about there? This is al Ron Hubbard junior.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the he's trapping. He's a handsome young jant, isn't he.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he looks like he's on the office man, some

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of TV show like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been. He's been compared to Bubbles from Trailer Park Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there is that's it. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to hear this man. I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 3>what this guy has to say. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 3>heard that he talked about his father and exposed some

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<v Speaker 3>stuff or whatnot, but I've never gone and listened to

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<v Speaker 3>it myself. Yeah, what do you think? Was he the

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<v Speaker 3>moon child?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty pretty sure? You ritual? Pretty shitty ritual. He was right.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this guy, he's not I mean, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>like full blown retarded. But you can listen to that interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Something right, somebody right with this boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, something's off. It looks like, well they say that

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<v Speaker 3>what Marjorie Cameron Green? Is that her name?

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<v Speaker 2>Does she kind of? Yeah, she's Cameron. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>just mashed together like a political character in this I

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<v Speaker 2>like it. I know, I like it. I do that show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time Marjorie. Marjorie Cameron is supposed to the horror Babylon, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so like apparently, you know, legend goes that after

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<v Speaker 3>one of these stints out in the desert, they come

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<v Speaker 3>back to Pasadena or wherever they're at, and they show

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<v Speaker 3>up and uh, she's just there waiting for for them

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<v Speaker 3>like they have she she I don't know, she just

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<v Speaker 3>shows up and and Parson sees that as a sign

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<v Speaker 3>that that they're working is going, you know, the way

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<v Speaker 3>he kind of wants it to go or whatnot? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then later people have said that she

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<v Speaker 3>was uh some sort of a I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 3>an egg or Gore come to life. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>how people put it, but she herself was some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a moon child that was produced from this What

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<v Speaker 3>do you think about all this nick by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean, do you think it's just a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, nonsense or what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they're up to? You know what the I

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<v Speaker 1>would have to honestly for me, uh, just my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to know more and actually know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I would have to almost look at the ritual for

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<v Speaker 1>me to have an opinion on what's actually going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear you, I'll tell you what I think. I

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<v Speaker 2>think they think they're doing something. And I'll say what

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they think they're doing. And that's there

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<v Speaker 2>are a bunch of spooks, will arpen about a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of nonsense, you know what I mean, Because when you

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<v Speaker 2>get down to the brass tacks of all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all spook activities, Parsons included. Right. You know you

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<v Speaker 2>got some Nazis around him. That Theodore von Carmon character,

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<v Speaker 2>he seems a bit suspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean these guys definitely got involved with

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<v Speaker 3>with the military and a government. You know, A quino

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I definitely think they're all doing something together. Just

422
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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the rituals and what they're actually doing.

423
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<v Speaker 1>I I really I had to have to look at

424
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<v Speaker 1>more stuff to be able to give an opinion on that.

425
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<v Speaker 3>So according to this, they were scrying and they started

426
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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't go. You know, this is kind of

427
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<v Speaker 3>where I left off Parson's diary entries here. But they

428
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:08.640
<v Speaker 3>kept going and they kept scrying, and they had messages

429
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:12.440
<v Speaker 3>come through. So and that's you know it.

430
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Just love that's crying these ceremonial magicians. That sounds like

431
00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:17.440
<v Speaker 2>some Croley or some Justice Smith stuff, right.

432
00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well it did. Dan Kelly though they were a

433
00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:22.160
<v Speaker 1>huge into that.

434
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:24.359
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

435
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Parson says he feels as if he has been given

436
00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.559
<v Speaker 3>a message and a plan when all this is said

437
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 3>and done, and it says, uh, I think this is correct.

438
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 3>He was so like invigorated by whatever happened to them

439
00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:44.720
<v Speaker 3>out there that he wrote Crowley on March sixth and

440
00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:50.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, said some stuff to to Crowley. I think

441
00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Parsons said that his message that was given to him

442
00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 3>was that he was to act as an instructor, guardian

443
00:23:56.839 --> 00:24:00.839
<v Speaker 3>and guide for nine months or nine moons and then

444
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:03.920
<v Speaker 3>it will be released on the world.

445
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is this guy right here. There you go, l

446
00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Run Hubber Junior ak bubbles.

447
00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>I will add though, I will add if you look

448
00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:22.240
<v Speaker 3>at the the timeframe of this, that nine months that

449
00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 3>he's talking about, when when that nine months is up,

450
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:29.519
<v Speaker 3>it is the beginning of nineteen forty seven. So that's

451
00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.319
<v Speaker 3>why I think maybe some people tie Roswell into this.

452
00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, what was Jack say fairy? L Ron Hubber

453
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Junior was born in thirty four. But I'm still gonna

454
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm still gonna make that joke that this guy right

455
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:51.359
<v Speaker 2>here is the moonchild. We look at him, he's a character. Yeah,

456
00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I definitely check out his interviews. He has some interesting

457
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:54.160
<v Speaker 2>stuff to say about his dad.

458
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<v Speaker 3>You think he was Grifton? Was he trying to sell

459
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 3>a book? Or do you think he's telling the truth?

460
00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't now. His half brother got merged

461
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>around the same time he started talking, So there's probably

462
00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:04.599
<v Speaker 2>something you said about that.

463
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 1>What was Parsons deal with? I used to remember, honestly,

464
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<v Speaker 1>if forgot, what was his deal with like the rockets

465
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, like, what was his contribution that was like

466
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>supposedly like the reason why the military was interested.

467
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:25.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, he he helped kickstart JPL Labs. I think it's

468
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 3>what it's called, and it became it was associated with NASA,

469
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.640
<v Speaker 3>it was associated with the origins of NASA.

470
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.480
<v Speaker 2>It's been the jet that it's the jet they called

471
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>the Jet Propulsion Laboratories, but I think it's always been

472
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.480
<v Speaker 2>called Jack Parson Labs if you ask me. But it

473
00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:44.759
<v Speaker 2>is where the NASA projects of all the rockets free

474
00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:48.160
<v Speaker 2>comes from, right, Yeah, all the actual rocket insurance and stuff.

475
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>So back to the suicide squad. The guy was talking

476
00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>about Molina. Its name is Frank So his son in law.

477
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, his son is married to Glene Maxwell's sister.

478
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:01.640
<v Speaker 2>That's a side tangent, but he was part of the

479
00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:04.559
<v Speaker 2>suicide squad, right, And the way Parson talks about the

480
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.839
<v Speaker 2>suicide squad was they invented solid state rocket fuel through

481
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:13.039
<v Speaker 2>doing ritual magic in the southern California desert. So I

482
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 2>don't know where the That's why I was being like,

483
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.039
<v Speaker 2>he's doing that by daytime, right, and he's got these

484
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>nighttime rituals as well in the desert. But he himself

485
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 2>says that they invented solid state rocket fuel. Does that

486
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:24.680
<v Speaker 2>be a ritual magic?

487
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Does that have anything to do with us getting to space.

488
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 2>You mean the things that they.

489
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Jack Parsons was does Jack Parsons influenced anything? Yes, that

490
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:35.519
<v Speaker 1>sends us to space?

491
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 2>The giant Dick statues that.

492
00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 1>Whatever fucking ship off, it looks like as long as

493
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it sends us to space, does he influenced?

494
00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 2>They used the Parsons fuel, right, he made the solid

495
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:46.400
<v Speaker 2>state rocket fuel.

496
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:46.519
<v Speaker 3>Right.

497
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>This this is something I want to make a point at.

498
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 1>And I said, may sound far fetched. I just wanted

499
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to try to make this this link. I don't buy

500
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>we're going there at all. I don't buy these things

501
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 1>are going there anywhere. So was their workings the whole

502
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>thing of convincing the public we are.

503
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:10.799
<v Speaker 2>That's the magic show, right, Yeah, not to mention Parsons,

504
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>that's the magic show.

505
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>Was getting very well connected with some of the Nazis

506
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:20.720
<v Speaker 3>from paper Clip during this process, because you know what, well, okay, here,

507
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:24.759
<v Speaker 3>for example, the numbers are kind of finicky, depends on

508
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 3>what website you go to. But I think the last

509
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 3>time I checked it said that Darren Nuremberg, speaking of syops,

510
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a giant syop. And I'll tell you why,

511
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 3>because dear in Nuremberg, they only tried I don't know.

512
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Two hundred and sixteen. That's the current number. I've seen

513
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixteen Nazis. But at the heighth of the war,

514
00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.160
<v Speaker 3>there were eight million members of the Nazi Party. So

515
00:27:46.359 --> 00:27:48.519
<v Speaker 3>what happened to the rest of them? Right, Well, we

516
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.319
<v Speaker 3>got a bunch of them in our aerospace NASA programs

517
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:57.559
<v Speaker 3>and that's where they were brushing shoulders with Parsons. So

518
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 3>he so he's interconnected with these knots like von Braund,

519
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:04.079
<v Speaker 3>warn Berger, Uh, what's his.

520
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Nice I think Nazis mind fox. I think they're all

521
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 1>visual mind fucks. That's what they do.

522
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's for damn. Certain nick And and von

523
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Braun and Parsons knew each other for many years preceding

524
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 2>his invasion of America. I believe it was in around

525
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Jack was about fifteen, and he started a pen pal

526
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 2>relationship with Nazi scientists. Warn't von Braun, Yep.

527
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, And like those guys are no strangers to

528
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 3>the occult. The Nazis weren't. They were all the main

529
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 3>Nazis were involved.

530
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Look at look at whichever ones came over here, all

531
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were into botany. I guarantee you were

532
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a cultist, because that's like a hand in hand thing.

533
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>If you're a Nazi and you're an ocultist, you're also

534
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 1>into botany. We got a lot of We got a

535
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of them that were into botany.

536
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 2>This is my problem with the nat with the Project

537
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>paper Clips stuff. Everyone focuses on the rocket Nazis, and

538
00:28:55.480 --> 00:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of other Nazis invaded at the

539
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.200
<v Speaker 2>same time. But I mean, the rocket one should not

540
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.079
<v Speaker 2>be ignored. But I'm just saying, like it is an

541
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>odd magic showing that itself that we focus on the

542
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>rocket Nazis.

543
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

544
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:11.720
<v Speaker 3>I like that you said invaded though, because they invasion.

545
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 3>That was that was an invasion, man, like to the

546
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.039
<v Speaker 3>point where I think, you know, this is something I've

547
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 3>come to believe or or the thought that I've had recently.

548
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:22.400
<v Speaker 3>It bothered me for a long time, but it's you know,

549
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 3>Eisenhower on his way out of office, he says he

550
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 3>warns the American people about the military industrial complex, and

551
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I always scratched my head over that. I'm like, Okay,

552
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.160
<v Speaker 3>why why is this guy? Because this guy's in bed

553
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:38.559
<v Speaker 3>with Alan Doles and Edward Burnez, you know, CIA m

554
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 3>K culture. They're running pop propaganda game all day, all

555
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>night on the American people. Eisenhower is kind of a

556
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 3>corrupt dude.

557
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Man.

558
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 3>When you see the wars he helped facilitate with the CIA,

559
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Why is he Why is this corrupt guy warning the

560
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 3>American people about corruption?

561
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Right?

562
00:29:54.599 --> 00:30:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's warning about the military industrial complex aka the

563
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 3>pay per clip Nazis because they invaded the military industrial complex.

564
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:07.400
<v Speaker 2>They're a big part of it.

565
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Sure, corruption, That's fine. It sounds like Trump, So.

566
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Where I think we're not even talking like that. Many

567
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.039
<v Speaker 2>different subjects like that far apart here with Parsons in

568
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 2>this activity, not just in the fact they're doing rocket stuff,

569
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.440
<v Speaker 2>but as far as deep politics or pay of politics go, right,

570
00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 2>like the the folks that you know who uh, you

571
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>know who really are responsible for this. A lot of

572
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.599
<v Speaker 2>the Nazi invasion is the Dulles brothers, right for sure?

573
00:30:31.680 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 3>Yep, Because yeah, Dolls, Dolls facilitated this. A big part

574
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:42.079
<v Speaker 3>of Dolls had a strong alliance with Ryan Hart.

575
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Galen Yep, yep, big time.

576
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Galen was Hitler's one of Hitler's top spymasters. Galen had

577
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:53.799
<v Speaker 3>an extensive network, uh that he had set up of

578
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, clandestine activities with the Russians.

579
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 2>And uh, well they had further the war, right, that's well.

580
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>He had that during the war, Galen.

581
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Had that they had to continue the combat, right.

582
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, or like with the Cold War, Yeah, that's right.

583
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly. Yeah, that was the relationship with with with

584
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Bryan Hart Galen. He he helped perpetrate the Cold War for.

585
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, yes, so so yes. So after the war

586
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>he comes and works for us. He's got that worked

587
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 3>out with Dolls, uh yeah, and Doulas basically lets him

588
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 3>continue to use his pre existing spy network during the

589
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Cold War against the Russians. So I guess in that

590
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 3>regard he was a big asset for us. But at

591
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 3>the same time, at the end of the day, he's

592
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, he's an ex Nazi and he's writing up

593
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:48.039
<v Speaker 3>memos that the president, the President Truman himself was reading

594
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Galen's memos on spy. So he had a Nazi you know,

595
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 3>reporting and influencing the president directly in that case.

596
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh, they were well accepted, well accepted.

597
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, these Nazis total with these guys.

598
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>There's a there's a Mormon Warner von Braun Disney film

599
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 2>you can watch from the fifties on, you know, regarding space.

600
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, these are people where that were well chairished

601
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.599
<v Speaker 2>amongst elements society and a very specific society I IF

602
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I IF I you know, as I claim, the Society

603
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>of the Cincinnati, which is the secret society that started America.

604
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 2>And in my opinion and I assert all all conspiracies

605
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>in America go back to the Society of Cincinnati. Like

606
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Jack Parsons, his paternal heritage goes back to a Colonel

607
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Parsons out of the Massachusetts chapter of the Society of Cincinnati,

608
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 2>which is it's an organization started by George Washington. They're

609
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.519
<v Speaker 2>the they and all of his officers and was to

610
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>become a modern day knighthood where the membership has passed

611
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>down through the paternal bloodlines.

612
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 3>So this is interesting to me, man, because I'm working

613
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.200
<v Speaker 3>on something right now that has to do with George Washington.

614
00:32:57.279 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 3>So I'm taking notes.

615
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 2>There you go. That's what it's So these folks, these

616
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 2>folks have been These folks have been running America since

617
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>they started it. Literally, so the u in in that

618
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>regard the Dellas brothers fall within this. This This is

619
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 2>what I like to call the Anglo American influence, right

620
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the this anti liberty influence so within this group of

621
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 2>the society. So they've been they've been at war with

622
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 2>one another since this country began. So when Alexander Hamilton

623
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>got murdered by Aaron Burr, the official story is that's

624
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:31.480
<v Speaker 2>not considered part of the Aaron Burr coup to take

625
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 2>over America. However, I would argue that's the first step

626
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:38.319
<v Speaker 2>in that process. Alexander Hamilton was the President general of

627
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the Society of the Cincinnati, right so, and and Aaron

628
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Burr was also a member so of the same secret society.

629
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<v Speaker 2>So the way I look at it was like this,

630
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.440
<v Speaker 2>not all US presidents for freemasons, but all US presidents

631
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<v Speaker 2>are members of the Society of the Cincinnati.

632
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 3>And Washington started it, and Washington.

633
00:33:57.559 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Started it, and it's passed down, you know, through the

634
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.640
<v Speaker 2>bloodlines paternally, and there's I mean, I can make an

635
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 2>argument for every American conspiracy revolves around the Society of Cincinnati,

636
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>including what we're describing here, even down to the occult

637
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff where you find folks like Jack Parsons who have

638
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:18.079
<v Speaker 2>this heritage. Whether or not he was a member, I

639
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 2>couldn't tell you. I ain't seen his card, but his

640
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>paternal forefather was a member. It was one of the

641
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>original members.

642
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Kind of reminds me a little bit of the Cosmos Club.

643
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm not familiar with that, So.

644
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>That's it's you can look it up. You'll still if

645
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 3>you write in Cosmos Club, what will come up is

646
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 3>this old building looks like something out of comic books,

647
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 3>like what we were talking about earlier, Like it looks

648
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 3>like a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or like X Men building. Right,

649
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 3>it's still there in Washington to this day. And I

650
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 3>haven't done an extensive amount of research on this, but

651
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>I do know that one of the guys involved was

652
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 3>John Wesley Powell, and I'm just taking his back full

653
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:01.559
<v Speaker 3>circle to something you talked about early in the intro,

654
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>which is giants, one of the guys who helped the Smithsonian.

655
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>This is the Cosmos Club.

656
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Tim, that's it, man, that's it. See there's John Wesson

657
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 3>Powell right there.

658
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly where this building is.

659
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

660
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>This sits directly across the street from the headquarters of

661
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 2>the Society of the Cincinnati What ya, dude, what I

662
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>know exactly where this building is?

663
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Does it sits across the street?

664
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>For real?

665
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, you know what's crazy. You know what's crazy.

666
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll bring up a picture of this next man there.

667
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I took him there before.

668
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy. So I may actually have footage

669
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of that building, because when when I wasn't with you, JJ,

670
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I went back to these places. I think you remember that,

671
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>even the day when it was too hot, I still

672
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>went back. I'm almost positive there was like a lot

673
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of the architecture over there, my opinion, has the same

674
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>exact eyeball occult symbolism. And there was one across from

675
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnatis that had it that I filmed because I was like, yo,

676
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 1>this has the same exact fucking architecture on it, but

677
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>it looked like a completely different building. And I was like,

678
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe it was built back, you know whatever.

679
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure it out, like, you know, justify it.

680
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not the same stuff, But I think I

681
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>filmed that. Actually I might have that in my on

682
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>my computer. Believe it or not, that.

683
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Building, JJ. Can you go back to the Wikipedia page

684
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 3>real quick, the main Wikipedia page. Yeah, yeah, so it

685
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 3>says like this was it's you know, this is what

686
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 3>they told everybody, right, this is its stated goals. It

687
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 3>says the advance the advancement of its members in science, literature,

688
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:39.119
<v Speaker 3>and art, and also their mutual improvement by social intercourse.

689
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 3>That's a weird way of putting it. In social intercourse.

690
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 3>What what some of the things that they're really up to,

691
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 3>because you know, it's a little bit more nefarious than

692
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.599
<v Speaker 3>what they have listed here. Of course, So Wes John

693
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 3>Wesley Powell was a guy at one point who was

694
00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 3>in charge of sort of guiding where they placed the railroad.

695
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>And what. I'm not too hip to him. He was

696
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a big railroad bird.

697
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Well, he was a lot of things.

698
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>He was a lot of things.

699
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 3>He's he's he was involved with the Smithsonian as well.

700
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I see that Bureau of Ethnology. So he was a

701
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>mound guy.

702
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's where I'm going with this, bro, I'm going

703
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.159
<v Speaker 3>straight to the giants with this because this guy and

704
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I used to got I'll tell people straight up, I'll

705
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.280
<v Speaker 3>be completely transparent about this. I used to think that

706
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:33.119
<v Speaker 3>this giants thing was a big and so I looked,

707
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 3>I looked into it, and I realized there's something here.

708
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 3>They really were pulling giants out of these mounts, and

709
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>there really was a cover up and this guy right

710
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 3>here was involved directly with the cover up. And he

711
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.760
<v Speaker 3>wasn't just covering up like giant bones. He was taking out,

712
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 3>taking out ancient civilizations, like they put a lot of

713
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>them underwater under lakes. They put they would put in dams,

714
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:03.159
<v Speaker 3>and they would totally put a big body of water

715
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 3>over ancient cities. Man, for real, like Teleco Lake and Tennessee.

716
00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I could prove it there's a there's an ancient city

717
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 3>down there at temples and all kinds of stuff that's

718
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.880
<v Speaker 3>not supposed to be here. And this guy was a

719
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>big part of that cover up.

720
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's now his name rings A Bell. I didn't

721
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.679
<v Speaker 2>know he was associated with that building. That's wild. Yeah,

722
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 2>and you're talking you're talking to the right man here

723
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 2>about ancient civilizations buried under water here intentionally, I discovered

724
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Speaker 2>this Yere Mound complex at the bottom of a lake

725
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.079
<v Speaker 2>here in Ohio courtesy of the Society and Cincinnati map

726
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.440
<v Speaker 2>with the instructions written on the bottom. Don't mind these

727
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 2>in these retired NSA guys are like I got into

728
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:44.880
<v Speaker 2>a dispute with a few years ago, like we found

729
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 2>it somewhere else. I'm like, dude, did you read the map, Like,

730
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 2>we don't need a map. I'm like, did you read

731
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the map though, because the map will tell you exactly

732
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:56.199
<v Speaker 2>where this was. So but yeah, you're right, they intentional

733
00:38:56.719 --> 00:39:00.559
<v Speaker 2>these ancient sites right across yeah, across America.

734
00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

735
00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, even the Hoover Dam was one like, uh, the

736
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Hoover there's a you can look it up. It was like, uh,

737
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 3>what's it. There's a whole culture that was flooded down there.

738
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.039
<v Speaker 3>It was an ancient city down there, you know.

739
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:14.519
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

740
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were part of the pleblo of people. So

741
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 3>or that's what they said. But we had like, so

742
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>wait before I keep going though, what this was under

743
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.119
<v Speaker 3>This is underwater in Ohio right now?

744
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, East four Ok Lake just east of Cincinnati and

745
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 2>Claremont County. Very Society of Cincinnati related settlements here. The

746
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>City of Cincinnati Claimont County specifically. But yeah, this was

747
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 2>uh so the Army Corps of Engineers part of that

748
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>damning project you were talking about. They wanted to flood

749
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.519
<v Speaker 2>this town and build this dam for you know, hydro

750
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>electric power, I think is what their initial claim was.

751
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>The local sued stopped it. They you know, the Army

752
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.559
<v Speaker 2>Corps of Engineers lost. They got an injunction on it,

753
00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 2>and they said, fuck fuck your what, We're doing it anyway.

754
00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:04.920
<v Speaker 2>So in nineteen sixty eight they objected to the you know,

755
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 2>they violated the court order and went ahead and buried

756
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 2>this site anyhow.

757
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 3>M h well, that's what they did here in Tennessee.

758
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 3>It's right outside of Knoxville. It was the Little Tennessee River,

759
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.199
<v Speaker 3>and I've got the I've got the map of it.

760
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.519
<v Speaker 3>There were there were seven to eight Cherokee cities down

761
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.239
<v Speaker 3>there along that river. One of them was called Chodah.

762
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.159
<v Speaker 3>It was, it was on the map. They called it

763
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Cherokee Metropolis. This was an actual city with buildings. Wasn't

764
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 3>teepees and fires.

765
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>This was Oh, yes, sir, they built break homes. You're

766
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm Scott's Irish Cherokee. You're you're uh you're again? What's you?

767
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.880
<v Speaker 2>You're talking to our subject, right, my wheelhouse friend? Yeah?

768
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Well I love it, man, I love that. You know

769
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 3>what I'm talking about here?

770
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 2>And uh, it's big mound country down there.

771
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.679
<v Speaker 3>Right, absolutely absolutely, And all those mounds and and those

772
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 3>associated towns are all underwater. It's called Teleco Lake, Tva, Tennessee.

773
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what a stands were Tennessee. Yeah, that's it.

774
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

775
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 3>They they flooded it in the seventies, not too far

776
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.280
<v Speaker 3>off of this time frame you're working with with. This

777
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.800
<v Speaker 3>is one in Cincinnati here a couple of years later,

778
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 3>I think, and they there were scientists and scholars from Cambridge.

779
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.760
<v Speaker 3>I think it was. It was either Oxford Cambridge, but

780
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.599
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Cambridge. They were down there. They

781
00:41:24.599 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 3>were in the process of escavator excavating a temple. One

782
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 3>of the guys from Cambridge said it was an Egyptian temple. Interesting,

783
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 3>So I think that the Cherokee moved into an older location.

784
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 3>I think there was a you know, an older group

785
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of people from somewhere else, probably from the Mediterranean, uh

786
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 3>and or thereabouts, that came over here, established a civilization.

787
00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 3>They probably had their hands I'll talk about this in

788
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 3>a second, man.

789
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Leave that up.

790
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:03.199
<v Speaker 3>They had their hands on advanced technology, I think, and

791
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.880
<v Speaker 3>something happened to them. Well, I know for sure that

792
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 3>there was a war with the Giants that the Cherokee recorded.

793
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Because the Cherokee come from Iroquois stock that means they

794
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 3>eventually they came down from up north. They were up

795
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 3>there in New England and.

796
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.719
<v Speaker 2>They're still Cherokee up in New England by the way.

797
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they recorded a war with the Alajeewe giants

798
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 3>right there around the Pittsburgh area. But so anyway, whatever

799
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.360
<v Speaker 3>happened to these people that got wiped out, I think,

800
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and then the Cherokee moved in and they established this

801
00:42:38.079 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 3>settlement down there along the Little Tennessee River that is

802
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.760
<v Speaker 3>now of course under Tellico Lake because these Basterds flooded

803
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.199
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing mid excavation. But one of the other

804
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.440
<v Speaker 3>things that come out of there, in addition to potentially

805
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.559
<v Speaker 3>having a Cherokee I'm sorry, an Egyptian temple, you also

806
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 3>have this right here. It's called the Back Creek Stone.

807
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and uh, this what your thoughts on this? It

808
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.639
<v Speaker 2>seems to be that this is evidence of what you're

809
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.719
<v Speaker 2>exactly described now, right right right, This is the seafair

810
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and culture that came over here a long time ago, right.

811
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is this is thought to be Paleo Hebrew.

812
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Paleo Hebrews basically confirmed to me that right first a d.

813
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.679
<v Speaker 3>Hebrew, right I think so? Yeah, yeah, because that was

814
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 3>it was.

815
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Located in a mound in Cherokee territory. Right.

816
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So here's the deal that Creek is back.

817
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Creek was right on that little Tennessee River right outside

818
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 3>of SA.

819
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Right. So that's what I'm saying, this is, this is

820
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>evidence of precisely what you're describing. Is I mean, there

821
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>is evidence to support all these things. And I don't

822
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>think folks really you know, I think a lot of times,

823
00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 2>especially you know main you know, main science folks, you know,

824
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:53.360
<v Speaker 2>these these aren't recognized facts, right, but like they're clearly facts, right,

825
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And they're clearly evidence of what some of these mounds

826
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 2>have aside from the giants, which I think is another

827
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 2>important factor you it out. Yeah, I've got evidence like

828
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.760
<v Speaker 2>this right that it shows these cultures existed here.

829
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.199
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I've got this thing. I got a picture

830
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 3>on my phone. I just pulled it up. It's, uh,

831
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 3>one of the it's one of the inscriptions that they

832
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 3>think they translated this stone that you have up sure,

833
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.679
<v Speaker 3>and they think it says holiness to the Lord. And

834
00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 3>they're saying it was an inscription worn on the forehead

835
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 3>of the high priest, as described in Exodus thirty, and

836
00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.480
<v Speaker 3>it says and they made the plate of the Holy

837
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 3>crown of pure gold and wrote upon it in a

838
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 3>writing like to the engraving of a signet Holiness to

839
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the Lord the almost like a siedule or something. That's

840
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 3>what they think that this is.

841
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, So this was kind of found under a sanctioned

842
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.400
<v Speaker 2>smiths Onian dig, so they really couldn't be like nah, right,

843
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 2>and how it went down right? Right?

844
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they also found a Paleo Hebrew coins down there

845
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:58.840
<v Speaker 3>in Back Creek too before they flooded it, so.

846
00:44:59.119 --> 00:44:59.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know.

847
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got it. Yeah, it's a coin of the

848
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 3>First Jewish War with Paleo Hebrew written letters similar to

849
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.760
<v Speaker 3>those claimed. Okay, blah blah blah.

850
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, let me let me see if I have

851
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 2>this correct here, Tim, So you need to tell me

852
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that John Wesley pay All, the guy that clearly you know,

853
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.239
<v Speaker 2>hit a lot of this evidence from the Smithsonian stuff

854
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>started the Cosmos Club. It sits across the street from

855
00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 2>the Society, literally from the Society of the Cincinnati.

856
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 3>From here to here, it appears to be such.

857
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's a weird dynamic. And here's why. So,

858
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>as you point out, the Smithsonian did a great job

859
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 2>at hiding these evidence of these stuff in the fount

860
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of these mounds. They eventually had to concede on the

861
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Back Creek stone after you know, the Cherokee had an

862
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 2>uprising about it. But which is a good point. They

863
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.639
<v Speaker 2>obviously did hide these things. But that's not how they started, right,

864
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not how they started. So strangely enough, the folks

865
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 2>that started the Smithsonian were the Society of Cincinnati, you know,

866
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:06.280
<v Speaker 2>members of the Society of the Cincinnati and names you

867
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.280
<v Speaker 2>probably are familiar with. Somebody named Jefferson Davis. He was

868
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 2>the other first president in America if you know what

869
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Confederate States of America. That is, so

870
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 2>he was a US center for Mississippi and he helped

871
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.719
<v Speaker 2>he was set on the Senate committee that helped start

872
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>the Smithsonian and you know, proceeding in the Civil War obviously.

873
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 2>And another individual involved in that was an hereditary member

874
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I believe of the Putnam family, uh, the descendant of

875
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.360
<v Speaker 2>General Israel Putnam of the Rhode Island Chapter. So these

876
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:38.719
<v Speaker 2>are the folks that helped start the Smithsonian. And their

877
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:45.039
<v Speaker 2>first project was to go study the mounds. Wow, are

878
00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 2>you familiar with that? Survey the ancient monuments of the

879
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi Valley by Squire and Davis.

880
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've looked at that.

881
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was their project. That's that was the initial

882
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 2>onset of the creation of the Smithsonian. That was their

883
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 2>first first project.

884
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, it seems like all these guys, these first presidents,

885
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm learning something here, man, I didn't know anything about

886
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:11.079
<v Speaker 3>this first Cincinnati. So like, so, you know what they

887
00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 3>called George Washington, right, the Indians Native Americans called him

888
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 3>devour of villages because he went in and cleared out

889
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>These guys were all about clearing out the natives.

890
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, it depends on which I think it

891
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.320
<v Speaker 2>depends on which, to be fairly, it depends on which

892
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 2>tribes you're talking because there was the British, uh, you know,

893
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:38.280
<v Speaker 2>faction British, you know, sided faction of tribes even within

894
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.760
<v Speaker 2>the tribes. So not only did you have some tribes

895
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>that completely decided with the British, and you know, oh yeah,

896
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you had you know, other tribes like the Cherokee, who

897
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 2>they split. Yeah, so the British recognized one leader and

898
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Washington recognized a different leader. Yeah.

899
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.280
<v Speaker 3>But but what I'm what I'm getting at is eventually

900
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.639
<v Speaker 3>they they pushed these people out, Like I'm saying they

901
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.599
<v Speaker 3>were not only getting rid of the dead Native American culture,

902
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 3>but they are getting rid of living Native American culture.

903
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.719
<v Speaker 3>It it didn't fit. It just seems like it didn't

904
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 3>fit into their model of what they wanted this place

905
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.400
<v Speaker 3>to be. It's it falls right in line with manifest

906
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:19.320
<v Speaker 3>destiny they you know, Yeah, they wanted these people to

907
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 3>appear as savages and not civilized so that they could

908
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 3>justify taking their lands. Essentially, that, in my opinion, that's

909
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 3>what this is all about.

910
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I mean, I hear what you're saying. I

911
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:32.679
<v Speaker 2>just think it's a little slightly more nuanced than that.

912
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:34.639
<v Speaker 2>But I sure, no, it is.

913
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 3>It's totally more nuanced than that. But if I had

914
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.079
<v Speaker 3>to boil it down and say that, what's one of

915
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:41.480
<v Speaker 3>the main factors, That's what I would say. Personally.

916
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 2>I hear you, and I I don't necessarily disagree with

917
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.119
<v Speaker 2>the service. Let's let's take a gator's I view here

918
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>at Jefferson Davis's giant dick statue. Why why are the

919
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:56.039
<v Speaker 2>two first presidents of America Washington and Davis have the

920
00:48:56.039 --> 00:49:00.159
<v Speaker 2>two giant, two biggest dick statues in America?

921
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 3>U A cyrus?

922
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, that's the obelisk. Right, it's a giant missing fallus. Right,

923
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.760
<v Speaker 2>it's the giant Dick statue. It's the rockets the Nazis

924
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:11.599
<v Speaker 2>are shooting off into the ocean. It's a giant Dick statue. Right.

925
00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:14.000
<v Speaker 2>These are all the same occult I could be wrong.

926
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 2>To me, they seem like all these same cult occult symbolism.

927
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mm hmm. I'm trying to remember the name of

928
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:26.079
<v Speaker 3>the president who has the hermitage out here.

929
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson.

930
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.599
<v Speaker 3>Uh, well, you know you know about him in the

931
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:33.639
<v Speaker 3>Trail of Tears, right, he pushed the rest of the

932
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Cherokey out via Trail of Tears. Sure, so you know

933
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 3>they wanted to get rid of all this man.

934
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.400
<v Speaker 2>And I think I think, I think he made some

935
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:45.639
<v Speaker 2>allegiances that he caused them to do these things. Sure,

936
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 2>he's an interesting character, that Andrew Jackson. Back to that

937
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Burr conspiracy, he kind of sat on the fence

938
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>of that whole matter in an interesting manner. He's also

939
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>got a giant Dick statue on a mound down in

940
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans for the Battle of New Orleans that he's

941
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>so infamous for. But there at the hermitage. He's also

942
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>got a Dick statue, not quite as big as the

943
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.679
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans one. Also on the mound.

944
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Well that's the see. There were still Cherokee living in

945
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:14.880
<v Speaker 3>in this choda uh Tennase or t A n s A. I.

946
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I think it's where they derive Tennessee from. There was

947
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 3>another Cherokee city right there next to Chota called Tennessee.

948
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 3>There were people still living there and the government came

949
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.760
<v Speaker 3>in and took it and they moved them to Arkansas

950
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 3>and to but and then and then Jackson comes down

951
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 3>with the axe and just says, no, everybody's gone, and

952
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.400
<v Speaker 3>trail of tears and they they take them out west

953
00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 3>and uh, those who made it, of course had to

954
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 3>live on reservations and you know, basically a foreign type

955
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:53.440
<v Speaker 3>of a place like they're used to like East Tennessee landscape,

956
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 3>and now they're living in a desert essentially. So the

957
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 3>whole thing is just, you know, it sucks.

958
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's not good.

959
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 3>But you know, why did they do?

960
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I just think there's a lot of politics around. It's

961
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>not really discussed, especially amongst these secret societies, and you know,

962
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>the attempt at cups of America that continue on and

963
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.519
<v Speaker 2>around the Burke conspiracy as the onset. So, like I said,

964
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Jackson sits on the on the fence about that. I

965
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 2>actually cover a lot of this, but uncovering a lot

966
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 2>of these details around this Burke conspiracy and specifically Jackson's

967
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.239
<v Speaker 2>activities in a series I do. If you're in Operation

968
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:31.119
<v Speaker 2>GCD on my podcast called Chasing Mneir, which is one

969
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:33.679
<v Speaker 2>of the folk of the interwebs who heard my Society

970
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.760
<v Speaker 2>of the Cincinnati series and discovered it intersected with some of

971
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>his genealogical work when he that's how he discovered it

972
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.559
<v Speaker 2>actually was through his genealogical work, and he happens to

973
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>be descended from a guy in around the spook operations

974
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 2>of George Washington. They were spying on the Aaron Burke conspiracy.

975
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 2>But again Andrew Jackson, high ranking military officer who sits

976
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:56.320
<v Speaker 2>on the fence of that whole matter, and it involves

977
00:51:56.440 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 2>matters with the Brits and the Spaniards. So very interesting. Well,

978
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying you're not wrong what you're saying. You know,

979
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 2>these trail of tears very devastating, But there's a lot

980
00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 2>of politics I think that get written off specifically on

981
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Jackson.

982
00:52:12.280 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know why he signed it. I mean

983
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I've looked at that too. You know, it's I don't

984
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 3>know if it's not as inhumane as it seems, but

985
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 3>it seems to be brought in humane that you know,

986
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.199
<v Speaker 3>he brought down the acts on that was Was he

987
00:52:27.239 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 3>a member of the Cincinnati Society, Oh for.

988
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah. So and as far

989
00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>as some of these activities going specifically, as you mentioned

990
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.800
<v Speaker 2>with a Cherokee when I was mentioning, there's an interesting

991
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 2>dynamic even during the revolution. So the British actually have

992
00:52:43.880 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>a you know, an official ambassador I'm sorry, diplomatic relations

993
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 2>invite over one Cherokee leader. They recognized him as the

994
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 2>leader of the Cherokee. Washington did the same. I believe

995
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 2>it was seventeen ninety two. The man he invited was

996
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a man of the society. He was a in the

997
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Georgia chapter George Lowry, the Scott's Scotch Cherokee fella. He

998
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 2>was the debt He was on that on that diplomatic

999
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you know trip to Mount Vernon, because that's where George

1000
00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 2>did his business from. He didn't, you know, never lived

1001
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>at the White House. So you know, there was that

1002
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 2>dynamic right there, and relative to more of these uh

1003
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:22.519
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying as far as the onslaught of warfare

1004
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 2>for some of these tribes, specifically the Cherokee. So there

1005
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 2>was a fellow that got that got mrked in around

1006
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.599
<v Speaker 2>the southwestern what is now the southwestern edge of Virginia.

1007
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess it was probably back then st too, so

1008
00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:38.679
<v Speaker 2>in around Washington County regions of Virginia. And fellow by

1009
00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 2>the name of Bob Bob Benji. He was this infamous

1010
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Cherokee warrior guy who was notorries for basically murking everyone

1011
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 2>he came in contact with. And you know, once he

1012
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:50.920
<v Speaker 2>was finally murdered by somebody there. You know, the story

1013
00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 2>isn't really exactly told, but the context I will offer is,

1014
00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not told with the context the contact

1015
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I will offer is that this is that ongoing dispute

1016
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about with and these factional you know, positions

1017
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:06.000
<v Speaker 2>these tribes took during that time, you know, And someone

1018
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 2>murdered Bob Benji and then scalped him and mailed his

1019
00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:13.679
<v Speaker 2>scalp to George Washington. So and I would on his

1020
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 2>face You're like, well, that's kind of strange. It was

1021
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:17.400
<v Speaker 2>one of the Lee Boys. When I say one of

1022
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 2>the Lee Boys, it was the father of General Robert Ealy.

1023
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 2>I believe it was how how the legend goes, that

1024
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>mailed it to him. So and that would that plays

1025
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.039
<v Speaker 2>important role too, because I would argue the Civil War

1026
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 2>will definitely around the Society of Cincinnati dispute that preceded

1027
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 2>the Civil War when they when they divided just prior

1028
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.639
<v Speaker 2>to the Civil War. It's also a family dispute with

1029
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the Washington's and the Lee family. It's a slightly different tale,

1030
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:42.480
<v Speaker 2>but they mailed his bob Benji's scalp to George Washington. Well,

1031
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>that was his buddy, George Lowry's brother in law. So

1032
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>this is that was that was a you know, you know,

1033
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.239
<v Speaker 2>a mafioso South threat, right, That's what I'm saying. There's

1034
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 2>some internal disputes that even go on between these societies

1035
00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 2>and these families and these in these sides these tribes

1036
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 2>took during this era that I think it's a farmer

1037
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. When it's a farmer new one situation.

1038
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think modern historians quite grasped, probably intentionally because

1039
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, it wouldn't be racist at that point, right.

1040
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I think that these guys were I think George Washington

1041
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:15.000
<v Speaker 3>was was definitely more of a savage that than than

1042
00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 3>history has portrayed him to be. I mean, they got

1043
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:25.320
<v Speaker 3>blood on their hands. Man. These guys weren't just you know, uh, clean,

1044
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:31.199
<v Speaker 3>tidy aristocrats. They were They they went through and they

1045
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.679
<v Speaker 3>they burnt villages and they killed a lot of people,

1046
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 3>whether it was Native Americans or somebody else. These guys

1047
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:41.599
<v Speaker 3>saw a lot of combat. So you know, I'm speaking

1048
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 3>to this guy sending a scout to George Washington. George

1049
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Washington probably didn't blink an eye. He probably saw it

1050
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:52.599
<v Speaker 3>as a you know, a mafioso type of a message.

1051
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.320
<v Speaker 3>But these guys were savages, man. They lived a totally

1052
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:57.360
<v Speaker 3>different life than we do. They didn't have heating and

1053
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:01.320
<v Speaker 3>air conditioning, refrigerators and all that. Totally different times.

1054
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.159
<v Speaker 2>I know, I like it. I'm full disclosure. I'm a

1055
00:56:05.840 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 2>George Washington super fan.

1056
00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1057
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.679
<v Speaker 2>And he was he was. He was. He merged his

1058
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:14.400
<v Speaker 2>own boss, he murdered General Braddock and then and then

1059
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:17.599
<v Speaker 2>took dudes, uh took his military sash and ward around

1060
00:56:17.599 --> 00:56:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the rest of his life. George George was rushing up

1061
00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:23.840
<v Speaker 2>in military uniform in like seventeen seventy two. He was

1062
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:25.519
<v Speaker 2>ready to go, dude, he was ready to fight.

1063
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:30.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. From what I understand, he was fighting for the

1064
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.079
<v Speaker 3>British at when we led a regiment for the British

1065
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:33.719
<v Speaker 3>at one point.

1066
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:36.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was a colonel in the British Army.

1067
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right, right, Yeah, very.

1068
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Murdered his own boss, the Brent, the Brinceton General Braddock

1069
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>over he said, he sent General Braddock back in a box,

1070
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.719
<v Speaker 2>took his sash first beforehand. It's wild man famously war

1071
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the red sash the rest of his life like a boss.

1072
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Move a love.

1073
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:57.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what I love about the history of It's pretty

1074
00:56:57.320 --> 00:57:00.599
<v Speaker 3>it's pretty hard core, right, yeah, man, Because George was like,

1075
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:02.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna He's like, I'm pretty sure.

1076
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.800
<v Speaker 2>If it's not really publicly addressed through history, but I'm

1077
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.000
<v Speaker 2>quite certain given the activities that George was up to

1078
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 2>at the time he was charged with treason by the King,

1079
00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:12.559
<v Speaker 2>there's no way they were letting him get away with

1080
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:16.400
<v Speaker 2>these activities. And again he famously wore that sash because

1081
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:18.920
<v Speaker 2>his story was they got ambushed, and him and his

1082
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.400
<v Speaker 2>guys just happened to get away. Braddock and all of

1083
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>his guys just happened to get murked. But somehow in

1084
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that ambush he was able to get the red sash.

1085
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the king ever bought it, you know

1086
00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 2>what I mean?

1087
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:31.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, right, right right, yeah, that's Man's that's what

1088
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:32.960
<v Speaker 3>I love. Like I said, that's what I love about

1089
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.760
<v Speaker 3>North American history. Man, it is so much more dance

1090
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:38.639
<v Speaker 3>than we've been told.

1091
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:41.840
<v Speaker 2>You know what, You're not wrong. George was cutthroat, There's

1092
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 2>no there's no question, and he may have literally cut

1093
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Raddick's throat while stealing his sash.

1094
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:47.159
<v Speaker 3>I could see that.

1095
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.960
<v Speaker 1>One thing that I did find interesting that had made me,

1096
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.519
<v Speaker 1>like I guess I never really thought much about that

1097
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.199
<v Speaker 1>whole Native American and the white people coming over here.

1098
00:57:57.360 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I have, but I mean I never looked

1099
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:02.239
<v Speaker 1>had it much deeper than I guess, Like probably I

1100
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 1>guess my own basic beliefs. But like when I had

1101
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:07.239
<v Speaker 1>somebody on the show a long time ago, I had

1102
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 1>thrash on and he covered Native American stuff and like symbolism,

1103
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 1>like kind of like they were cult stuff from him

1104
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:17.039
<v Speaker 1>doing that you know, we had realized so many different

1105
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>type of like occult orders that came over from like

1106
00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:24.159
<v Speaker 1>there in here to like like freemasonry or just even

1107
00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:31.559
<v Speaker 1>styles of magic that that fuck I'm trying to trying.

1108
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 2>To Deronda Wolf area.

1109
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I forget about it, man. Uh So like you have

1110
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>these different styles of uh yeah, you have these. You

1111
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 1>have these symbols that the Native Americans were using starting

1112
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 1>to be inherited by secret societies over here and by

1113
00:58:53.039 --> 00:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>occult orders, and then supposed you also have the story

1114
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.079
<v Speaker 1>of like them kind of getting like wiped out. Like

1115
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just so like what I'm getting is like regardless

1116
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of how much of that is, I guess true, whatever's

1117
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>behind it. To me, it's like I do see I

1118
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:10.239
<v Speaker 1>guess a group of people I guess getting diminished, and

1119
00:59:10.280 --> 00:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>then there's symbolism even taking and reused, so like I

1120
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 1>do start to wonder if there's something else behind you know,

1121
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:21.559
<v Speaker 1>it's even something to do with occultism or understanding of

1122
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>it they didn't like, Well, I just think there's something

1123
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>else there because because of even seeing that.

1124
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'd like to dig on that a minute, because

1125
00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I my question is where do you think that got

1126
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the cult symbolism in the first place. Where where did

1127
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:41.119
<v Speaker 3>the Native Americans get a cult symbolism like.

1128
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Even like like like the Mickmac like they're a medicine

1129
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>has been reused. There's people will put out magic books

1130
00:59:48.519 --> 00:59:51.320
<v Speaker 1>that have the same type of like pointed They have

1131
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 1>their own like way of showing an eight pointed star

1132
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 1>and somebody other people think.

1133
00:59:57.559 --> 01:00:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Magic wand with a mushroom cap. Yeah, it's got me

1134
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 2>some deep culture. That was an amount of chili coffee.

1135
01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:06.679
<v Speaker 3>I have a book in.

1136
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 2>This guy's got a whole resource available.

1137
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Why so, Nick, you brought up the Micmac. I've got

1138
01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:23.360
<v Speaker 3>a book in the other room where this guy puts

1139
01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:28.400
<v Speaker 3>the Mickmac language right next to Egyptian higher glyphs and

1140
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:33.519
<v Speaker 3>they match up. How does that happen? They're getting I

1141
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:37.400
<v Speaker 3>think the Native Americans got this stuff from another culture

1142
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.559
<v Speaker 3>not nearby. There was, like like JJ said earlier, there

1143
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.519
<v Speaker 3>was seafaring. There was some seafaring people who came over here,

1144
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:51.079
<v Speaker 3>for sure. That's what we've got to sort of uncover

1145
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:55.599
<v Speaker 3>more of this. This issue is out there for the decoding.

1146
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Still we still haven't even touched.

1147
01:00:57.800 --> 01:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we have understanding of what happened with

1148
01:00:59.880 --> 01:01:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the situation at all. And then another thing I wanted

1149
01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to even bring into it.

1150
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.280
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, there were magicians over here, man, Nick, I think

1151
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:08.320
<v Speaker 3>there was a group of.

1152
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Well I was going to get into that that I

1153
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:11.639
<v Speaker 1>was going to answer JJ because I bet you he

1154
01:01:11.719 --> 01:01:13.679
<v Speaker 1>might actually have an idea. And that's sort of an

1155
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.760
<v Speaker 1>opinion technically, if you want to go by the Mormons,

1156
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:20.239
<v Speaker 1>they were here, but prior weren't.

1157
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:24.079
<v Speaker 2>They I've never heard of these people, the Mormons. Yes,

1158
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:31.880
<v Speaker 2>please tell me about them, Cargo. Well, that's what I'm saying,

1159
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1160
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.599
<v Speaker 1>That's so like what do you think about them? I mean,

1161
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you know the reason why.

1162
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Get to that culture? Right, I'm an older culture.

1163
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And if you think about it too, with the Mormons

1164
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:42.719
<v Speaker 1>on some of their beliefs, don't they think that some

1165
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:45.199
<v Speaker 1>of those Native Americans actually are theirs?

1166
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1167
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Like if you want to twist Mormonism in there, what

1168
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 1>the fuck was really going on? Because like that that

1169
01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that just series like they were there prior supposedly they're

1170
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.280
<v Speaker 1>also Native Americans, So what the fuck?

1171
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 2>What the fucking deed? What you're hitting on is exactly

1172
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:05.719
<v Speaker 2>what I'm what I was about to say here with

1173
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:09.199
<v Speaker 2>this flag too, is well, you see with the Mormons

1174
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 2>that grew out of it. I think was we covered

1175
01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 2>with Heidi a couple of weeks ago that grew out

1176
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:15.239
<v Speaker 2>of the Society of Cincinnati members that started the Mormons,

1177
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:18.960
<v Speaker 2>including Jesseph Smith, right. So it's this it's this culture

1178
01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:21.239
<v Speaker 2>that this older ideas of carrying on this culture of

1179
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.360
<v Speaker 2>these mound cultures, right, because that's obviously a focus of

1180
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 2>the society's kind of occulted understandings of the world. Same

1181
01:02:28.199 --> 01:02:31.199
<v Speaker 2>with their heritage, the Knights Templar, so they go back

1182
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:34.639
<v Speaker 2>in their their family trees will find the templar. For example,

1183
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 2>George Washington is descended from ten of the Templar Knights

1184
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:44.239
<v Speaker 2>that brought us Magna Carta in twelve fifteen. So ten

1185
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.320
<v Speaker 2>of the twenty five knights templar. That's just one example.

1186
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:51.400
<v Speaker 2>So the templar flag just happens to look like that

1187
01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Micmac flag. Right. So you're talking about seafaring people. So

1188
01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:58.360
<v Speaker 2>in the Micmax are up there in Nova Scotia or

1189
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:02.599
<v Speaker 2>New Scotland, with which I think we live underneath the

1190
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:06.239
<v Speaker 2>crown history today, the English crown, the Vatican crown, the

1191
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.480
<v Speaker 2>crown history, and what we're talking about is the Crown

1192
01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:11.480
<v Speaker 2>history because we don't know these ideas. But these are

1193
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 2>things that existed in this in this nation for literally

1194
01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:18.440
<v Speaker 2>thousands of years. So when the Knights, Sempler's ancestors, the

1195
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Normans invaded the United Kingdom in ten sixty six and

1196
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the infamous Norman invasion they invaded America in ten sixty

1197
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.360
<v Speaker 2>six in Nova Scotia, and you can find evidence of

1198
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.719
<v Speaker 2>this in the law Incell Meadows Settlement. So we just

1199
01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:37.960
<v Speaker 2>we live underneath a bunk history. We don't know these details.

1200
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:40.880
<v Speaker 2>But these seafaring people as we were describing there, Yeah,

1201
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:45.800
<v Speaker 2>they've definitely impacted the native communities and long before the manifests,

1202
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and I guess that's what I was trying to get

1203
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.599
<v Speaker 2>at with the nuance of all this is these same

1204
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 2>families lived and lived in peace with the natives and

1205
01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 2>did intermingled with trade with the natives, and the natives

1206
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.960
<v Speaker 2>used their actual incorporated their language and their system amongst

1207
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:02.599
<v Speaker 2>themselves like the mcmax did here.

1208
01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.599
<v Speaker 3>You know up there near Nova Scotia too, you've got

1209
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Newfoundland right there's there's undisputed in my opinion, Norst Village

1210
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.679
<v Speaker 3>up there that dates back to I think it's ten fourteen.

1211
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:18.880
<v Speaker 3>There you go, and I you know, for me, it's

1212
01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:20.960
<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a nice little chunk of proof that

1213
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Europeans or the Vikings or whatever we call they were

1214
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 3>over here a thousand years ago at least, you know.

1215
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 3>And if you look at the Kensing and runstone, they

1216
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.800
<v Speaker 3>that's Scandinavian stuff on that as well. They found that

1217
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:38.960
<v Speaker 3>in a field out in Minnesota or Wisconsin or something

1218
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 3>like that.

1219
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that. You know

1220
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:43.840
<v Speaker 2>about the Kensington runestone. They found that in a mound

1221
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:47.519
<v Speaker 2>in Kensington, just outside of Kensason, Minnesota.

1222
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. So there's all these there's all these finding

1223
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, and what happens here is individually do you know?

1224
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Made it center? Jack? Real quick? For do you know

1225
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:01.880
<v Speaker 2>who buried this the Kensington rooms Doane? No? What do

1226
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:05.480
<v Speaker 2>you think it's what's by the evidence inscribed on it

1227
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:08.599
<v Speaker 2>is the Nights Templar. Yeah. So this was a this

1228
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.480
<v Speaker 2>was a land claim from the Templar, and the land

1229
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:13.559
<v Speaker 2>claim it just happened. The land that happened to claim,

1230
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.280
<v Speaker 2>we just happened to get in America. Here is the

1231
01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Louisiana purchase.

1232
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 3>M you think about it too, there's a Norwegian island.

1233
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's called Leka l e k A. They

1234
01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.920
<v Speaker 3>just found a boat. Talking about mounds, right, they found

1235
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.199
<v Speaker 3>a boat burial mound that they's backed the seven hundred

1236
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:37.559
<v Speaker 3>and a d. That tells me that these people were

1237
01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:39.880
<v Speaker 3>certainly selling the oceans.

1238
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 2>A long time ago, uh for sure.

1239
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:44.559
<v Speaker 3>And the thing in with those with those boat burial

1240
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:51.239
<v Speaker 3>mounds is they really really uh like preserve the boat

1241
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:54.559
<v Speaker 3>down to the full details. It's awesome. You can see

1242
01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:58.159
<v Speaker 3>you could see like the level of craftsmanship that these

1243
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:02.400
<v Speaker 3>people had, and it's it's almost otherworldly man like, especially

1244
01:06:02.440 --> 01:06:05.199
<v Speaker 3>like the Norse and the Runes. I think the Ruins

1245
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:10.239
<v Speaker 3>themselves were like a magical language. They they had their

1246
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 3>own The Norse had their own version of advanced technology.

1247
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1248
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I think they had their hands on some very other

1249
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 3>worldly stuff, and you see it in the craftsmanship of

1250
01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:20.960
<v Speaker 3>their boats. I think it's just just down to the

1251
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 3>language itself.

1252
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Well sure, if you look at it this way. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if if you can read maps and you can see,

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01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, travel the seas and you can read them,

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01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:33.000
<v Speaker 2>so if you can read the stars and travel the seas,

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01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:35.519
<v Speaker 2>you can understand the high level of mathematics that will

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<v Speaker 2>take you real far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, man. I mean I think there was

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01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 3>a uh a mashup of different people's you know, Phoenicians, Minoans, uh, Canaanites, Amorites.

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<v Speaker 3>There's evidence that all these.

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01:06:57.719 --> 01:06:59.599
<v Speaker 2>People about some hit tights. We get some hit tightes

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01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 2>in there, some hit.

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01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Tights in here.

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01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Bromirates, you know who sings about the Emirates? Uh that

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Dwight York Engine. Oh really okay, yeah yeah one of these.

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01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah cool, let's be let's be honest about the situation.

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01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.199
<v Speaker 3>I'll hit you, I hit you with something with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you familiar with this one? Tim? Uh Cincinnati tablet

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01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 2>found the mound in Cincinnati. This is supposedly ancient hit tite.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, cool man, look at that that detail, that's ornate.

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01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.199
<v Speaker 3>I drove up when I first moved to Nashville, I

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01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:40.239
<v Speaker 3>took a road trip north and I went up through Louisville.

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01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:43.599
<v Speaker 3>Louisville is an interesting one because they've got old ancient

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01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.719
<v Speaker 3>walls out there that that could date way back, like

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01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:50.480
<v Speaker 3>there was an ancient city there prior apparently to being Louisville.

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01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:54.360
<v Speaker 3>But I kept going. I went up through Cincinnati. And

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01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:57.400
<v Speaker 3>I stopped in Cincinnati. But as I'm rolling into Cincinnati,

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01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm going through this I don't called a valley, but

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01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:04.280
<v Speaker 3>I could see like all around me. And of course

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01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.639
<v Speaker 3>it's all like Ohio suburbs right now, because you know,

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01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:11.119
<v Speaker 3>the modern society we're in, that's that's just a product

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01:08:11.159 --> 01:08:13.760
<v Speaker 3>of that. But I got this weird sense rolling in

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01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:16.640
<v Speaker 3>to Cincinnati that like people have been living in this

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01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:18.800
<v Speaker 3>area for a long time. It's just there's like a

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01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:22.119
<v Speaker 3>feeling about rolling into Cincinnati that I got. I don't know, man,

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01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:24.000
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of woo woo, but I definitely got a

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01:08:24.039 --> 01:08:25.239
<v Speaker 3>wild feeling rolling.

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01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:28.800
<v Speaker 2>In there, like that's interesting. According to a University of

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01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati anthropologist, anthropologist I had a conversation with years back,

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01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:34.880
<v Speaker 2>he claims folks been living in that valley for about

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01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thousand years.

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01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I think you could feel that. Man, I'm from apple Achia.

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01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:42.279
<v Speaker 3>You could feel the mountains up.

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01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.600
<v Speaker 2>There whereout Well we're talking.

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01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, I live not too far from the Blue Ridge Parkway,

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01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:52.119
<v Speaker 3>the Blue rich Man. You know, I was on the

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01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:57.239
<v Speaker 3>I was on the corner of that though. I could

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01:08:57.279 --> 01:09:00.319
<v Speaker 3>see that from my backyard. That was like the like

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01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:04.239
<v Speaker 3>the backdrop of my My backyard was the Blue Rich Mountains.

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01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:05.920
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of it was like a painting man.

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01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 3>It was awesome.

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01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Nick's got himself a little taste of Appalachian now living

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01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:12.640
<v Speaker 2>in the area of North Carolina. He's and he's you know,

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01:09:12.680 --> 01:09:14.560
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of it, but he's now seen it.

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01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, Nick could go up there sometime. Man, go

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01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:20.359
<v Speaker 3>up to Apple Atch or sometime go up to Boon

1308
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 3>or like Ashville or something. Man, it's beautiful, is nice. Yeah,

1309
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 3>it's cool too, cool places to visit.

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01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.800
<v Speaker 2>But like Choke, North Carolina. They got around there too.

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01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:33.960
<v Speaker 3>That's one of my favorite places to go through is Cherokee.

1312
01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:36.439
<v Speaker 3>That place feels old.

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01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:38.520
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. There all the way there to

1314
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:43.039
<v Speaker 2>Telecoa planes, right mm hmmmmm stretch through there.

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01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, man, like uh back to these these

1316
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 3>artifacts though, like.

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01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's this one? What do you think? Like, what's this? Uh?

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01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:55.279
<v Speaker 2>This was found the mound. This is a very unique symbol.

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01:09:55.319 --> 01:09:57.520
<v Speaker 2>It seems as far as that's not what I've seen

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01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 2>in many mountains. This is unique and I've never seen

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01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 2>this on any other mound for that matter, Nick, what

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01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:07.880
<v Speaker 2>do you think you're mud? Is this some eye symbols?

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01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'll be totally honest. I was looking

1324
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that be fair, it's not.

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01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:15.880
<v Speaker 2>It's not in shape, right.

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01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That could be uh you know what does right behind

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01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 1>me of a little bit of the groke symbol. Not

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01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:26.840
<v Speaker 1>saying that that's where you got it from, but I

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01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:28.640
<v Speaker 1>mean like that type of shape, and you even have

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01:10:28.720 --> 01:10:30.199
<v Speaker 1>like a one in a zero in there and the

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01:10:30.239 --> 01:10:33.880
<v Speaker 1>eye in the O I O in there. Sense Oh nos?

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01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.119
<v Speaker 3>Was this this was some sort of a disc What

1333
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:38.319
<v Speaker 3>do you think they were doing with this?

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01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's a good question because a lot

1335
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:45.880
<v Speaker 2>of times, you know there there are a lot of

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01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:47.920
<v Speaker 2>their ritual sus seems be pipes, right.

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01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I wonder what they did with it. I

1338
01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:54.319
<v Speaker 3>wonder what size this is. Like if this was real small,

1339
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:57.479
<v Speaker 3>I could see it being used to like in like

1340
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:00.600
<v Speaker 3>in grave pottery or something like the put you know

1341
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:04.239
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like they would take these symbols that

1342
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:09.079
<v Speaker 3>were engraved in stone and while they're making a pottery piece,

1343
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 3>while it's still wet, they would take it and push

1344
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:14.560
<v Speaker 3>it up against the pottery to put the symbols in it.

1345
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, what's your take on the Harry Potter mushroom tipped

1346
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:20.640
<v Speaker 2>magic wand.

1347
01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Man, I don't know, but I'll say this the first.

1348
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Magic wand I've seen in the mound before. I was

1349
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:28.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of surprised by this.

1350
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:33.880
<v Speaker 3>I think there were astrologers over here. Man. Have you

1351
01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:36.000
<v Speaker 3>ever looked at Davenport calendar?

1352
01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 2>No, please tell me what's that about?

1353
01:11:39.079 --> 01:11:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, pull it up if you want Davenport, Iowa calendar.

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01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:50.000
<v Speaker 3>There was. There's three languages on that It's Egyptian, Libying,

1356
01:11:50.279 --> 01:11:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and Phoenician, and it's all about astrology. The whole it's

1357
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.359
<v Speaker 3>the whole thing is just has to do with astrology.

1358
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:01.720
<v Speaker 3>But all three languages are on that stone. And it

1359
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 3>reminded me of like the Phoenician Iberian stuff that comes

1360
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.399
<v Speaker 3>out of the Grave Creek Mound in West Virginia. Yeah,

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01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 3>all right, because that stuff matches like Punic astrology records.

1362
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.159
<v Speaker 3>So all in all, what I'm saying here is there

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01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:23.439
<v Speaker 3>was a multi ethnic group of magicians, traveling magicians that

1364
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:26.279
<v Speaker 3>came over here. I think that's what this points too.

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01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 2>That makes sense to me, And I'll go ahead.

1366
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was just gonna say I think like that

1367
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.399
<v Speaker 3>that if you look at that Punic language that was

1368
01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.840
<v Speaker 3>used by the Iberian phoenicians. It goes back to astrologers

1369
01:12:41.159 --> 01:12:44.880
<v Speaker 3>from the first millennia BC. Just to give you a timeframe,

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01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Davenport calendar is what we're looking for. They might not

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01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:54.039
<v Speaker 3>even have this on Google. Man, this might I've never

1372
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:54.560
<v Speaker 3>heard of it.

1373
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:57.640
<v Speaker 2>This is I'm familiar with the Davenport tablets.

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01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:00.000
<v Speaker 3>This might be this one might be banned from Google.

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01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I'll see if i can find a picture of it

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01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:02.399
<v Speaker 3>here in a second.

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01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I've got a pick. Please do I've never even heard

1378
01:13:04.199 --> 01:13:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of that. So that grave creek, man, I agree with you,

1379
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Phoenician stuff going on inside of that.

1380
01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.720
<v Speaker 2>That tablet's gone. And with the way Houdini poof well,

1381
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:17.079
<v Speaker 2>so that was that mound was George Washington's and Charles

1382
01:13:17.079 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 2>Manson's favorite mound, obviously at different points in time.

1383
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 3>What really, Yeah.

1384
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Washington used to survey the Ohio country for his brother's company,

1385
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:30.800
<v Speaker 2>the Ohio Company, and he would camp out around that mound.

1386
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:33.560
<v Speaker 2>According to his journals, that would be his frequent spot

1387
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 2>of camp. And then later Charles Manson would visit his

1388
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:38.840
<v Speaker 2>mother at the penitentiary there and he would like to

1389
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:40.960
<v Speaker 2>play down that mound and roll down the hill, roll

1390
01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:44.239
<v Speaker 2>down the mound, so they had different reason. I think

1391
01:13:44.239 --> 01:13:46.399
<v Speaker 2>they might have had different interests at different times, but

1392
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.119
<v Speaker 2>you know they both they both shared affinity for that mound.

1393
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, what's what sticks out to me about that in

1394
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:56.880
<v Speaker 3>particular is that it's not just Phoenician, it's Iberian Phoenician.

1395
01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:03.520
<v Speaker 3>So we're talking about Spain, right, i'd area is that's

1396
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:06.880
<v Speaker 3>that's Iberia. Now that's where I could I feel like

1397
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I can maybe tie in alchemy here. Of course I'm

1398
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:15.399
<v Speaker 3>speculating a little bit, but this was a group of

1399
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:21.600
<v Speaker 3>of magician alchemists because a lot of this, a lot

1400
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:25.560
<v Speaker 3>of this points back to these guys being having some

1401
01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 3>some sort of a landing pad out on out in Spain. Uh,

1402
01:14:32.119 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 3>like the like the Liberians would have come through Spain

1403
01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:40.199
<v Speaker 3>probably the who was the other the Egyptians, the Phoenicians,

1404
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 3>and then and then a lot of these Phoenicians in

1405
01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:47.760
<v Speaker 3>particular were from cad Is Spain or kd Is Spain

1406
01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:51.479
<v Speaker 3>is c A D I Z and uh. You know, anyway,

1407
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying is like Spain in my research, is

1408
01:14:56.239 --> 01:14:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a place where you see a lot of alchemy just

1409
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.159
<v Speaker 3>out all a lot of the main deep dives I've

1410
01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:10.680
<v Speaker 3>done on alchemy have something to do with Spain like

1411
01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:14.760
<v Speaker 3>or France like, which you know, France is right next

1412
01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.960
<v Speaker 3>to Spain, like. I don't know, it's just something about that.

1413
01:15:18.119 --> 01:15:21.880
<v Speaker 3>It's almost like alchemy got moved to Spain at one point,

1414
01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:24.479
<v Speaker 3>or a lot of the alchemists went to Spain at

1415
01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:26.079
<v Speaker 3>one point. I don't know.

1416
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.880
<v Speaker 2>But it just got thinking, what's an interesting thought for sure,

1417
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:32.520
<v Speaker 2>because I think a lot of this stuff gets carried

1418
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:33.640
<v Speaker 2>on the bloodlines. Right.

1419
01:15:35.079 --> 01:15:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the late fifteen hundreds is popping in Germany.

1420
01:15:39.239 --> 01:15:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I know that.

1421
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if where it was prior to that

1422
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:46.359
<v Speaker 1>or after that, but the scene, oh yeah, especially even

1423
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:51.039
<v Speaker 1>started againting resocrutionism around that too, or or the idea

1424
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of it, you know, that whole thing was going around.

1425
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was kind of the point I was making

1426
01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:59.920
<v Speaker 2>earlier with Parsons having this heritage to the Society of Cincinnati,

1427
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.720
<v Speaker 2>secret Society stuff. It seems like a lot of these

1428
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.800
<v Speaker 2>families go back to these well I'm not saying exclusively,

1429
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:08.760
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of them have this rooted, long heritage

1430
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:15.640
<v Speaker 2>rooted in witchcraft or other sort of alchemy practices. The

1431
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.119
<v Speaker 2>world's come to mind immediately. We just did that show

1432
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.279
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday, well, and her whole family has a not

1433
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:23.880
<v Speaker 2>just her branch, other branches have a history of this

1434
01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:27.479
<v Speaker 2>this witchcraft activity. Getting back to the old world, right,

1435
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:29.279
<v Speaker 2>this is not just America.

1436
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Called The Mysteries of the Great Cross of Hindei, Alchemy

1437
01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 3>and the End of Time by Jay Wiiner. I had

1438
01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:41.520
<v Speaker 3>this guy on. It was pretty cool, like he drops

1439
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.439
<v Speaker 3>some knowledge for sure. But he and his friend, he

1440
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 3>told me they went to Spain and went and followed

1441
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.640
<v Speaker 3>this course that a lot of these old alchemists took

1442
01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:57.279
<v Speaker 3>through Spain. Because what happened is they were building the

1443
01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:03.359
<v Speaker 3>cathedrals over there, and like with with alchemy in mind,

1444
01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:07.600
<v Speaker 3>like they were they were I think they said they

1445
01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:13.840
<v Speaker 3>saw the cathedrals as frozen music, and they so they

1446
01:17:13.880 --> 01:17:16.239
<v Speaker 3>tried to They had all these mystical reasons for why

1447
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.039
<v Speaker 3>they built the cathedrals the way they did. But what

1448
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:25.079
<v Speaker 3>they did was they encoded esoteric meaning an alchemical meaning

1449
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:30.479
<v Speaker 3>into the actual cathedrals themselves throughout Spain and throughout France

1450
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:34.000
<v Speaker 3>of course as well. And it goes back to h

1451
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Bernard of clairvo He was like the first. He was

1452
01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the first, uh he's he was. He helped found the

1453
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Knight's Templar. Actually, yeah, And they don't know how he

1454
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:51.079
<v Speaker 3>got all this money because he financed the first of

1455
01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:54.960
<v Speaker 3>the Gothic cathedrals. They don't know, they don't know how

1456
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.359
<v Speaker 3>he came into all this money to do so. But

1457
01:17:57.479 --> 01:17:59.920
<v Speaker 3>he was friends with all these alchemists, so like the

1458
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:04.960
<v Speaker 3>assumption was that he they were you know, they turned

1459
01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:08.920
<v Speaker 3>base metals into gold basically, and they got rich off

1460
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:11.079
<v Speaker 3>of it, and they built these cathedrals. And when they

1461
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:15.159
<v Speaker 3>built the cathedrals, they encoded those secrets of alchemy into

1462
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:16.239
<v Speaker 3>the building itself.

1463
01:18:18.119 --> 01:18:20.760
<v Speaker 2>That's awesomescape.

1464
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:24.720
<v Speaker 3>You have a landscape spanning spain of this type of stuff.

1465
01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:28.119
<v Speaker 3>It's not just the cathedrals. It's in like little landmarks

1466
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.640
<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that. There's there's obelisks and and just

1467
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:36.159
<v Speaker 3>little like stone monuments, and it's it's just a shrine

1468
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:41.840
<v Speaker 3>of of alchemical texts. That is totally an enigma all

1469
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:42.560
<v Speaker 3>throughout strain.

1470
01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.520
<v Speaker 2>For sure. When you were describing that, I was before

1471
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned Bernard de Clarvo, as you pointed out, one

1472
01:18:47.720 --> 01:18:50.079
<v Speaker 2>of the co founders of the Night's Templar at the

1473
01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Council of Claremont, which again, as I was saying before

1474
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Clarmont County and Cincinnati where that one site was buried

1475
01:18:55.520 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>under lake. Very important to these folks, you know, a

1476
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:01.000
<v Speaker 2>very important site. But the we have New Clara Vos.

1477
01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.520
<v Speaker 2>It's outside of Chico, California. These are the Cistercian monks.

1478
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.399
<v Speaker 2>These are the folks that you know Bernard de Clarivo.

1479
01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:10.840
<v Speaker 2>His religious order would have been the Cistercian Order. So

1480
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:14.600
<v Speaker 2>they moved one of these religious houses you're describing from

1481
01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Spain from the thirteenth century, one of these templar religious

1482
01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:26.840
<v Speaker 2>chapter houses to their location just outside of Chico, California.

1483
01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:30.960
<v Speaker 2>You're familiar with the any of any of those sites. No,

1484
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:34.479
<v Speaker 2>you used to be called the Santa Maria del Ovilla.

1485
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:38.520
<v Speaker 2>This was a Cistercian monastery built in Spain back in

1486
01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:39.479
<v Speaker 2>eleven eighty one.

1487
01:19:42.239 --> 01:19:43.279
<v Speaker 3>Now are there two?

1488
01:19:43.359 --> 01:19:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Are there?

1489
01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Is there a Cistercian and a sister Nian or something

1490
01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:51.079
<v Speaker 3>like it? Is there two versions of this word.

1491
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:55.720
<v Speaker 2>That I'm unfamiliar with. Certainly the Cistercians were definitely the

1492
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen the film Robin Hood.

1493
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:00.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been a while though.

1494
01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:03.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, Friar Friar Tuck or whatever, the drunk monk.

1495
01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, every has his ups.

1496
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:13.640
<v Speaker 2>He's a Cistercian monk. So these monks out here in Chico,

1497
01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:18.760
<v Speaker 2>the they brew beer with Sierra Nevada. Oh okay, but

1498
01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:21.000
<v Speaker 2>this this is their chapter house here from Spain from

1499
01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:23.560
<v Speaker 2>the eleventh eleven, built in eleven eighty one. You can

1500
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:25.760
<v Speaker 2>go visit. It's now sits in Chico and I've seen

1501
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:26.640
<v Speaker 2>it's there.

1502
01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 3>Now. He was associated with the Benedictine Order as well, right, Clavo, Yeah,

1503
01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.199
<v Speaker 3>I think he was associated with the Benedictine Order at one.

1504
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:45.079
<v Speaker 2>That's very possible. So the folks, for example, when I

1505
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:47.479
<v Speaker 2>say the Ausertion monks are the ones that create the

1506
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Knights Temple and how they're represented by Friar Tuck, the

1507
01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:53.800
<v Speaker 2>folks that inscribed that Kensington room soon you were we

1508
01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:56.560
<v Speaker 2>were discussing before, that would have been a Cistercian monk

1509
01:20:56.600 --> 01:20:58.199
<v Speaker 2>that did that. They were the only ones that were

1510
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:02.359
<v Speaker 2>skilled and uh learned in those languages of the time

1511
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to inscribe that stone. So a temple art faction, would

1512
01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:07.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, on a on a mission for whatever, would

1513
01:21:07.880 --> 01:21:10.399
<v Speaker 2>have a Friar Tuck as you've seen in robin Hood

1514
01:21:10.640 --> 01:21:12.319
<v Speaker 2>along with him, and that that'd been the guy who

1515
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:13.279
<v Speaker 2>inscribed that stone.

1516
01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, isn't there a I don't remember how what they

1517
01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:21.520
<v Speaker 3>call it gungeywomp or something like that. Are you familiar

1518
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:23.479
<v Speaker 3>with the Gungeywomp site?

1519
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:27.159
<v Speaker 2>It sounds some there, but that's a refreshment memory.

1520
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I don't know much about it. It's I'll see

1521
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:33.359
<v Speaker 3>if I can find how you spell that? But it's

1522
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:36.920
<v Speaker 3>a apparently it's in It's in New England, and it's

1523
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:40.920
<v Speaker 3>an old monk site. It's like a little small cathedral

1524
01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:46.039
<v Speaker 3>built into stone. And the people who own the property

1525
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:51.159
<v Speaker 3>are like kind of cool, they're kind of into alternative history,

1526
01:21:51.319 --> 01:21:53.840
<v Speaker 3>so they're open about it. They're like they let people

1527
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.680
<v Speaker 3>come out there and and and tour the property and

1528
01:21:56.720 --> 01:21:59.399
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that and check it out. But it's it.

1529
01:21:59.399 --> 01:22:04.399
<v Speaker 3>It dates back to monks, well, it dates back to

1530
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:06.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember what it dates back to, but they

1531
01:22:06.479 --> 01:22:09.439
<v Speaker 3>think because of some of the inscriptions that it were

1532
01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:13.960
<v Speaker 3>monks who put it there. I'm gonna see if I

1533
01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:14.520
<v Speaker 3>can find it.

1534
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.439
<v Speaker 2>How are we spelling this because I'm sure I'm spelling

1535
01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:18.159
<v Speaker 2>it incorrectly.

1536
01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:24.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, here you go. G u n g y

1537
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:27.399
<v Speaker 3>y w A MP gungee womp.

1538
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I was closely didn't come up.

1539
01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:33.399
<v Speaker 3>It's in Connecticut, I believe.

1540
01:22:33.960 --> 01:22:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yep, hard for Connecticut. I put New Hampshire. I'm

1541
01:22:36.840 --> 01:22:38.720
<v Speaker 2>not sure why. I don't think even said New Hampshire.

1542
01:22:38.960 --> 01:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>It just sounded like something they would be in New Hampshire.

1543
01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does. I think I.

1544
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Was was in Vermont. I was like it stefing out Vermont,

1545
01:22:47.439 --> 01:22:50.640
<v Speaker 2>so it may as well be New Hampshire. They want

1546
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:52.960
<v Speaker 2>to be Vermont, but they're not quite Vermont. So it's

1547
01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:54.800
<v Speaker 2>sounds like a New Hampshire activity.

1548
01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:57.640
<v Speaker 3>They've got stone circles there, I believe. Oh yeah, there

1549
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:04.800
<v Speaker 3>you go. There's a picture. Yeah, growting Connecticut.

1550
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Yep, we got some large slabs. Huh what are we

1551
01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:16.800
<v Speaker 2>talking here? Yeah, some ceremonial sites of some regard is

1552
01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>that we're looking at? This? Is that what this is?

1553
01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:24.439
<v Speaker 3>I would think, so ceremonial stone. I don't know much

1554
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:29.359
<v Speaker 3>about this one, but you know, they have theorized that

1555
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:33.079
<v Speaker 3>this was a group of I think German monks is

1556
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:35.520
<v Speaker 3>what they said, who came over did this?

1557
01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>How dare they? How dare they come over here and

1558
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:39.720
<v Speaker 2>do this?

1559
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:43.239
<v Speaker 3>Or maybe it's Irish monks that's what they said, yeah,

1560
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 3>or coldies.

1561
01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:49.479
<v Speaker 2>They're saying this is made in the nineteen sixties. Is

1562
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:52.520
<v Speaker 2>that real life? That can't be real life?

1563
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:57.560
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, it's definitely not made from the

1564
01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:02.239
<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixties. That might be what they're trying to cover

1565
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:09.239
<v Speaker 3>it up with and say typical, Yeah, that would be typical. No,

1566
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:13.199
<v Speaker 3>there's I don't know, man, It's just just what came

1567
01:24:13.279 --> 01:24:14.920
<v Speaker 3>to mind when you were talking about the monks coming

1568
01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:16.920
<v Speaker 3>over here. I think what we have those a situations

1569
01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:19.479
<v Speaker 3>where there was a lot of different groups of people

1570
01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:23.119
<v Speaker 3>coming over here way before Columbus.

1571
01:24:23.800 --> 01:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh big time. Are you familiar with this site, tim.

1572
01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right outside of Saint Louis.

1573
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, sir. Do you know the namesake for this mount.

1574
01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:36.319
<v Speaker 3>No hit me with it.

1575
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It's back in the early sixteen hundred. It's a group

1576
01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:43.239
<v Speaker 2>of French Trappist monks of the Cistercian order made this

1577
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:45.239
<v Speaker 2>their home for about twenty years, I believe, is how

1578
01:24:45.479 --> 01:24:50.479
<v Speaker 2>Leto goes. So back to that same order of the

1579
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:53.439
<v Speaker 2>Nights Templear monks, the Cistercian monks.

1580
01:24:54.439 --> 01:24:56.920
<v Speaker 3>So were you saying that they moved in to the

1581
01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.960
<v Speaker 3>area and like lived amongst the mountains.

1582
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:02.680
<v Speaker 2>They lived on specifically apparently on top of that mound.

1583
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:05.439
<v Speaker 2>That's why they got the name Monks Mound because these

1584
01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:08.199
<v Speaker 2>French beer drinking monks to set up shop there had

1585
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:13.479
<v Speaker 2>some tailgaters. Wow, man, about twenty years, like a twenty

1586
01:25:13.560 --> 01:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>year long tailgater.

1587
01:25:18.279 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 3>No, that's interesting, man, I didn't know that I knew

1588
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:25.199
<v Speaker 3>about Kokia, you know, and all that. Sure, Yeah, I

1589
01:25:25.239 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 3>think that that's a very interesting site, just for the

1590
01:25:28.319 --> 01:25:32.920
<v Speaker 3>fact that it points to there being a city there

1591
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:36.319
<v Speaker 3>that I think they held. They think it housed about

1592
01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:41.039
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand people or more in twelve hundred a d.

1593
01:25:42.039 --> 01:25:44.279
<v Speaker 3>And part of that city, part of that city would

1594
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:46.600
<v Speaker 3>be under Saint Louis now.

1595
01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:50.319
<v Speaker 2>At a time when London was only half that size.

1596
01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep. And you know, I think that it just

1597
01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:58.159
<v Speaker 3>goes back to this idea that some of our cities

1598
01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:02.479
<v Speaker 3>are aren't new. You can't go by the founded by

1599
01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:05.239
<v Speaker 3>date on Wikipedia. For some of our cities, people have

1600
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:08.720
<v Speaker 3>been living there much longer. I think we've built some

1601
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:10.960
<v Speaker 3>of our modern day cities right on top of these

1602
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.000
<v Speaker 3>old cities, and I think Saint Louis is a good

1603
01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:17.319
<v Speaker 3>example of that. Specifically Kohokia Mound. I mean there were

1604
01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:22.199
<v Speaker 3>tunnels that they found two Monks Mound that like ran

1605
01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:24.880
<v Speaker 3>under the river to Saint Louis and where they found

1606
01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:29.159
<v Speaker 3>like weird artifacts. I saw this on a This dude

1607
01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:34.079
<v Speaker 3>was doing a breakdown of like old newscape newspaper articles. Sure,

1608
01:26:34.399 --> 01:26:38.640
<v Speaker 3>and he found an old coupling of articles where they

1609
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:41.720
<v Speaker 3>talked about the weird tunnels under the river and Saint

1610
01:26:41.800 --> 01:26:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Louis connected to these mounds, and they were finding just

1611
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:49.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, out of place artifacts, like there was like

1612
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:54.399
<v Speaker 3>along the lines of the tunnel was like lions heads

1613
01:26:54.399 --> 01:26:57.479
<v Speaker 3>that held torches. Just say Indiana, Jon stuff man.

1614
01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Totally writes some Egyptian stuff too, right man.

1615
01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, we've got that here in Nashville too. They

1616
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:10.520
<v Speaker 3>found they found a tunnel that had a sarcophagus in

1617
01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.840
<v Speaker 3>it below Nashville.

1618
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an ancient city as well. Right. They recognize

1619
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.199
<v Speaker 2>that by naming things such as the Parthenon, Right.

1620
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think so. I think they put

1621
01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:25.039
<v Speaker 3>that there as a as a nod to some of

1622
01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the stuff they were finding here.

1623
01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:32.279
<v Speaker 1>You're you out there in Nashville. Yeah, Oh, I got

1624
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>to go out there one more time before I start

1625
01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>working on that stuff I have. I want to film

1626
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>this one more day. Yeah, definitely hit you up, man.

1627
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea.

1628
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm from North Carolina originally.

1629
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Hey you told me that, Yeah, you told me that

1630
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I think one other time. Yeah, yeah, that's that. And

1631
01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll definitely make sure i'll make try to make a

1632
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>work with it if you're available to Yeah.

1633
01:27:52.920 --> 01:27:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I'll wrap up my thought though, real

1634
01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:58.000
<v Speaker 3>quick with that, just because I think this is crazy

1635
01:27:58.119 --> 01:28:00.000
<v Speaker 3>like that parth and On. The word on the sho

1636
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:05.079
<v Speaker 3>Street is that that Parfenon sits on top of the

1637
01:28:05.279 --> 01:28:08.319
<v Speaker 3>entrance to this tunnel they found where they found all

1638
01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:13.119
<v Speaker 3>these weird artifacts and the tunnel. They said in the article,

1639
01:28:13.159 --> 01:28:15.560
<v Speaker 3>they talked about how the tunnel stretched for about a

1640
01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:22.520
<v Speaker 3>mile underneath Nashville and came out at Fort Negli, which

1641
01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:25.640
<v Speaker 3>is a star fort. I'm sure you're familiar with star

1642
01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>fort lore, some of those star So you've got a

1643
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:33.279
<v Speaker 3>tunnel connected to a star fort with a sarcophagus in there.

1644
01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:36.920
<v Speaker 3>They found big urns and vases down there with what

1645
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.199
<v Speaker 3>they were describing as an undetectable language. It was some

1646
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:43.319
<v Speaker 3>they you know, they weren't they didn't know what language

1647
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:43.720
<v Speaker 3>it was.

1648
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:52.880
<v Speaker 2>On there was Reformed Egyptian, probably yaph Smith joke, I apologize, Yeah,

1649
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>what do you say? Tell everybody it's reformed Egyptian, right right,

1650
01:28:57.119 --> 01:28:59.399
<v Speaker 2>only I can read it, my angel marone.

1651
01:28:59.520 --> 01:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1652
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:05.399
<v Speaker 3>No, But assumption, my assumption is that it was it

1653
01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:09.159
<v Speaker 3>was not Egyptian or or they would have identified it.

1654
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:11.720
<v Speaker 3>It was something else probably yeah, like Greek or something

1655
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:13.840
<v Speaker 3>like that. Who knows. But anyway, sorry, Nick.

1656
01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, No, no, no, I was interrupting you. I

1657
01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:19.239
<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask guy, because you're talking about like Egyptian

1658
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>artifacts or whatever and Mormons. I heard that at some point.

1659
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Joseph Smith even kind of technically

1660
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:29.239
<v Speaker 1>put a lien on the church because he wanted to

1661
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>acquire Egyptian artifacts. Have you ever heard that before?

1662
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<v Speaker 2>I think the whole society of Cincinnati was deeply in patch,

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<v Speaker 2>me with the Egyptian artifacts, Napoleon Bonaparte being a prime example. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think Smith's Smith's interests were in the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Napoleon. You guys got to look into his sister. She

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01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:54.399
<v Speaker 1>was a fucking freak interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Lady, Napoleon Bonaparte's sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, we mentioned that when we covered the Reggio carnival. Uh,

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01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>somehow he came up on there and then we covered

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01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>his sister or some ship.

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01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And the Bonaparte started the FBI as well. They're very

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<v Speaker 2>powerful family in America.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard that Napoleon FBI thing. That's pretty wild man,

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01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:26.960
<v Speaker 3>that's said Nick would know. They say that Napoleon spent

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01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:31.760
<v Speaker 3>some time in like Egypt and like the Great Pyramid

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01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:34.399
<v Speaker 3>and like one of the chambers up there, like like

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01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:35.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of like Crowley did.

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01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Crowley loved himself some Jesse Smith and said

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01:30:40.199 --> 01:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>his Damien Eckles apparently, But who doesn't love bubbles Hubbert here,

1680
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:51.399
<v Speaker 2>he's a he's a handsome jen He wasn't handsome, gen

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01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>r I p bubbles bubbles Bubbles looks a little. I

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01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:01.319
<v Speaker 2>appreciate something way up preciate both of you gents. Saving

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<v Speaker 2>Sam's great. Great to meet you, sir, and these, like

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01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I said, your your topics of conversation specifically right in

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01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>my wheelhouse. I certainly enjoyed a lot of your insight

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01:31:09.399 --> 01:31:12.159
<v Speaker 2>on these on these topics. Do you have any closing

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01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.479
<v Speaker 2>words for folks here? Anything you can plug here?

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01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll just sure, I mean, I'll plug my podcast,

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01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:25.279
<v Speaker 3>I reckon uh sixth Sensory podcast. I'm on YouTube, Spotify, Apple,

1690
01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:31.520
<v Speaker 3>and Patreon and sixth sensory Instagram. Check that out and

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01:31:31.600 --> 01:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>that's it. Man, thanks for having me on. It was

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01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:35.760
<v Speaker 3>it was a blast talking to you about this stuff.

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01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah for sure, man. I got your links

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01:31:38.640 --> 01:31:40.520
<v Speaker 2>in the show notes already for folks to check out.

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01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:43.079
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, for sure absolutely And Nick, sir, I appreciate

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01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:46.239
<v Speaker 2>your time as always. Any plugs for parting thoughts for

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01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>folks tonight.

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01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, no really, I don't know. Check out the

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01:31:50.840 --> 01:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>eul rechecks. I don't know. Sure. We got we got

1700
01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>some really interesting guests coming up recently. I mean, I

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01:31:54.880 --> 01:31:56.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of them will be live, but

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01:31:57.479 --> 01:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you have some interesting uh oh, we got you know

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01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:03.439
<v Speaker 1>who got coming that that that will be dropping soon

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01:32:03.960 --> 01:32:07.399
<v Speaker 1>that we could promote. Uh, we're gonna be having a

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01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>ex vampire cult person on who was in it? And Rice?

1706
01:32:13.560 --> 01:32:17.600
<v Speaker 1>This woman was in an and Rice vampire colt. That

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01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>should be interesting.

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01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Who's Anne Rice?

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01:32:21.680 --> 01:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>She was? She was the one who did that whole

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01:32:23.680 --> 01:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>thing with the interview with the vampire.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah makes sense.

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01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, you trying to hit me

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01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:32.119
<v Speaker 2>with you ain't got nothing to plug. I was about

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01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:37.039
<v Speaker 2>to start plugging some occult reject stuff. That vampire stuff

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01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>we got some Cult Elvis coming up.

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01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:40.199
<v Speaker 1>We got oh yeah that's dropping.

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01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true that.

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01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:49.439
<v Speaker 1>The Colt Elves is dropping next Wednesday. So yeah, people

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01:32:49.520 --> 01:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye out for that definitely, or might have

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01:32:51.680 --> 01:32:53.279
<v Speaker 1>dropped on it. Might have dropped on Heidi if you

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01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:54.119
<v Speaker 1>want to go check that out.

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01:32:54.199 --> 01:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>All right, I was gonna say, we got more Mormon

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01:32:56.760 --> 01:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff with Heidie coming up.

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01:32:57.960 --> 01:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, yes, yes, we got that's yes, shout out

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01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, more Moment Mafia coming at you cold. Yeah,

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01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Colt Elvis and Van guests coming up soon, so it

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01:33:11.560 --> 01:33:13.079
<v Speaker 1>should be definitely interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Let me just hack up along here and

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01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate both of you jents again. Operation GCD Live

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01:33:24.399 --> 01:33:28.520
<v Speaker 2>coming up on Wednesday with an occult and or ESO

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01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Terror review of the nineteen eighty six uh cinematic masterpiece

1732
01:33:33.279 --> 01:33:37.439
<v Speaker 2>The Golden Child starring Eddie Murphy. That with Nick and

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01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Jen the Ninjas looking forward to that.

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01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to just because I have to watch the

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01:33:41.199 --> 01:33:43.319
<v Speaker 1>movie a few times to do it. I love that one.

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01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a great one. It's a really it plays.

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01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>The comedy still plays. I mean, it's who doesn't want

1738
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>to see Axel Foley Battle of Satanic Cult going to

1739
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:53.000
<v Speaker 2>pet Tibet. You know who doesn't want to see that?

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01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:56.199
<v Speaker 2>I want to see it again exactly. I watched a

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01:33:56.239 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>couple of times.

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01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>I just saw this al movie the other day that

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01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:03.479
<v Speaker 3>I need to go back and watch. It's with Tom Cruise.

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01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:07.279
<v Speaker 3>He plays Tim Curry plays the sat Satan in it

1745
01:34:07.439 --> 01:34:09.920
<v Speaker 3>or the Devil. I'm trying to remember what it's called.

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01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:13.199
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, it looks very esoteric. I gotta go back

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01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:19.359
<v Speaker 3>and watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about.

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01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's an old, old movie, right.

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01:34:24.199 --> 01:34:26.319
<v Speaker 3>It's Tom Cruise from the eighties, and it's got a

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01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:32.199
<v Speaker 3>very generic title, but it's all about it's well, what

1752
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:35.119
<v Speaker 3>is it? It's about like somebody who makes a pack

1753
01:34:35.199 --> 01:34:39.159
<v Speaker 3>with the devil and but it's but it's cooler than that.

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01:34:39.239 --> 01:34:41.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not just that I haven't seen it in years.

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01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:44.840
<v Speaker 3>I can't even describe it, man, But it's like Tim

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01:34:44.920 --> 01:34:46.479
<v Speaker 3>Curry plays the devil.

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01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:47.159
<v Speaker 1>In it, and.

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01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:53.239
<v Speaker 3>He's it's very creepy legend. That's it. It's gotta be

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01:34:55.359 --> 01:35:00.359
<v Speaker 3>that movie was bugged out legend Tom Cruise.

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01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, didn't Tim Curry play the

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01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:06.039
<v Speaker 1>demon looking thing? Like you'd have no idea.

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01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>That was him. Yeah, now you mentioned I actually actually

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01:35:09.920 --> 01:35:11.439
<v Speaker 2>just got a message today from a folk of the

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01:35:11.439 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>interwet I was recommending a cult nesso terric review of

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01:35:14.680 --> 01:35:17.239
<v Speaker 2>this one. Here, Nick the Devil's Rainy Fellas are familiar

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01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>with this one.

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01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I have heard of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, John Travolto Anton Levey was the technical advisor. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>him and Johnny Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we definitely have to check this out.

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01:35:27.119 --> 01:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>They got a little they got, you know, I know

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01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>from experience you don't want to get this closer to Travolta.

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01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:35.479
<v Speaker 2>He gets a bit handsy. But so who knows what

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01:35:35.560 --> 01:35:36.760
<v Speaker 2>him and Levey were doing here?

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01:35:37.279 --> 01:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>This is on the street as he did grab JJ's as.

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01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>A rumor on the street. And I'll tell you what, sir,

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01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>that he got a little, he got a little two

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01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:47.119
<v Speaker 2>hands back it up here, John, not that kind of guy.

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01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Levey, what did was he involved with? Like LaVey was

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01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:54.800
<v Speaker 3>involved with Rosemary's Baby too, right, Like he's been involved

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01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>with films, yes, theirs.

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01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:58.800
<v Speaker 2>He was a technical advisor for Bob Cocaine, Evans and

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01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Rumin Polanski missed process himselves satanic shit show Rosemary's Baby.

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01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>You are corrector and.

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01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that he met Aquino for the first time

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01:36:08.960 --> 01:36:14.720
<v Speaker 3>at Rosemary's Baby premiere preview. That's one of the little

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01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:18.479
<v Speaker 3>stories that comes with that, I think. But anyways, that's interesting.

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01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't you know, I don't really know the epicenter

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01:36:20.039 --> 01:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>ac sevity of winning Quino met Levey. You know what

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01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean? That is, that is a good point you

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01:36:24.720 --> 01:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>bring up when I think about it.

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01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Legend is it was at a preview premiere, some sort

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01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:34.720
<v Speaker 3>of a shell wing for Rosemary's Baby. That's what I've heard.

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01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>At least that would be interesting. Yeah, man, that would

1795
01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>be interesting. So just as on the way out here,

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01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I U you can look see the look in my face.

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01:36:44.319 --> 01:36:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I felt bad for threatening John Travoltza with a very

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01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>large gun. I apologize to the man. I let him

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01:36:50.960 --> 01:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>come see the cell fighter. He got a bit handsy,

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01:36:53.600 --> 01:36:56.199
<v Speaker 2>he said, back it off, John. You know, right the

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01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>last second, he pulls me into this photograph, pulls me

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01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>in to his credit, at least in his defense, it's

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01:37:02.920 --> 01:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a Friday or Saturday night. I don't recall. It's midnight,

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01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.720
<v Speaker 2>secluded Hanger six. Air Force Dudes, He's like jackpot, you

1805
01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:14.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. So nice guy. Otherwise, I suppose

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01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:18.960
<v Speaker 2>he's like he's like being in a what's that?

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01:37:19.119 --> 01:37:21.079
<v Speaker 1>What's tries a little sixy wait, get one.

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01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That's That's what I'm saying. Dude, he's like secluded airplane

1809
01:37:24.840 --> 01:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>hanger and he's like six Air Forces. He's scrapping Air

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01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Force young man. He's like, I'm he's like, hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm staying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of questions about that picture, but

1814
01:37:38.359 --> 01:37:39.880
<v Speaker 3>just the context in general

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I appreciate both you gentlemen and the folks at

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<v Speaker 2>the interwebs have yourself good, even