Speaker 1: Everybody, Welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday. It took me
a second. It's Thursday. So we're gonna talk pop culture.
We're going to talk about Bravo and god knows what
else is gonna come out of my guest's mouth because
it's Ace Fanning. How you doing? Ace? Oh?
Speaker 2: Never better, baby, I never better.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this accent is that you've adopted
this morning, but I'd like for you to get rid
of it. What is it?
Speaker 2: You know what? I would love to too, But sometimes
I just I wake up and this is just I'm
just a different person. So like, my apologies.
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I see your office is coming together there. I've been
watching it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's slowly coming together. This is my my most
prized art piece. Right here is Cody Brown giving me
Felicia you Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well did a listener? I made that for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Very like. It's uh, you know, a beautiful craft.
Speaker 1: Okay, are you watching The Last Resort?
Speaker 2: No? You know what? Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: It's so good. It's so good.
Speaker 2: This ninety day Fiances. First of all, they're six hours
long every episode.
Speaker 1: This is just one. It's just one hour on Monday Night,
and it's so good.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you. I I've tried. I was into
ninety Day Fiance when it first started, and like you know,
like I loved Goldie and last and Bighie and and
like uh Nicole and what was his name.
Speaker 1: As Yes, it was like his Hassan but she called
him as in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and her baby who may who was on
that iPad? And yeah, yeah, love that. But then it
just got too much and it was like too many people,
and we did we recapped before the ninety days. This
last season, God, it just went on and on and on.
We finally quit.
Speaker 1: Well, when you do the two hour show, it will
drag you down, excuse me, but the one hour show,
which is the Monday show, is always a delight. And
because it's the secondary show. So this is the last resort.
And it's what spurred that is because you said about
Cody Brown giving you flat show. So there's a lot
of discussion about because Powe and Russ are on. Do
you remember them. They're from one of the early episodes. No,
she's now a female wrestler. Oh, and he stays at
home and does nothing, so she's mad about that.
Speaker 2: Wait, what is her name?
Speaker 1: Powe? It was Paola Paoh, so how and what's his name? Russ?
And she called him Russ.
Speaker 2: Let me see how us and no, I don't remember them.
Speaker 1: They had a baby, like in a bathtub in the
living room.
Speaker 2: And I remember that one girl who was like really
really blonde hair, and she was foreign obviously the show
was a foreign people's and you know she they have
the scared relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't know that could be anybody, but is it
Natalie is possibly sounds like she's like, I don't want
to live in the food.
Speaker 2: Yes. I felt like he was like a mountain man.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, yeah, Natalie, And I can't remember that guy's
saying Mike and they were in like Seattle, and she's like,
I come to the United States. I don't want to
live in the food. Yeah, yes, and night do you
hear the screaming in the wood?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: She's been on a lot of shows too, but Pow
and Russ. The issue with their relationship is that not
only does he do nothing, just lays around, and they
had like a twelve year old and she earns all
the money and in her culture, she doesn't like that
she wants him to do something and he has never
gone down on her, or if he's tried, then she
says he's doing it wrong. And literally they've been married
for twelve years, so she says she just starfishes. He
says he has sex one way because he knows what
will work, and then he goes to sleep.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. First of all, can you imagine you
sign up? Because you're like, I'm going to go to America.
I'm going to live the best fucking life I can.
And then you are the breadwinner as.
Speaker 1: A female wrestler in Vegas and they have they live
in like a camper because he won't get a job, and.
Speaker 2: Then on top of all of that, you work and
he doesn't even go down on you.
Speaker 1: No, she has no satisfaction from her man. She's like
she had to show him like her sex toy, to
show him how it worked, because he's like, how does
that work?
Speaker 2: Is he like a is he kind of like an
in Selly type or is he like normal?
Speaker 1: No, he's I mean he's like a normalish guy. I
think I think at this point he's so beaten down
by her that he's just not going to do it
on principle.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, you know, perfect, But lucky.
Speaker 1: For them, they get to hang out with people like
Chicaina and Sarper.
Speaker 2: I don't know those people.
Speaker 1: Kara and Guermo.
Speaker 2: I watched. I also watched one where Jenny.
Speaker 1: And Submit there on this they're on this, Oh okay.
Speaker 2: I watched them, and that was a great time.
Speaker 1: They're on this show. Jenny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So last resort means it's like, as a couple,
it's their last resort.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was singing. Last resort meant like, we've been
on the show, they've put us through the franchise, and
this is our last resort to try and find love
with someone.
Speaker 1: It is our last resort in our marriage.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 1: Then and then when this doesn't work, we go on
the single life.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and then you start all over. You know
what I loved was Danielle Muhammad. Yes, I love Danielle.
Speaker 1: We have we have a very similar situation on the
current season of ninety day og happening right now.
Speaker 2: I love those ones.
Speaker 1: Here look it up Debbie with Y Debbie and Meadow
m I d.
Speaker 2: Oh am, I d o. Let's see.
Speaker 1: You could just watch my instagram because I a really
good story about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: A he's an Egyptian movie star. He's a movie star.
But yet somehow they met when he was giving her
a tour of the pyramids. Oh as movie stars.
Speaker 2: Do, as they do. Yeah, you know, I I feel
like ninety fiance is the only real way to find
love anymore.
Speaker 1: You know, you could be right between that and you know,
getting scammed on tender. I don't know. Yeah, anyway, I
just wanted to know. I should have known you're not
watching it. But the but the Cody Brown giving you
file at show is what uh spurned? That? Is that
a potato in the other.
Speaker 2: Corner right here, other side this guy? Yeah no, that's
a zip popping guy who looks like Peyton Brown.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not a potato.
Speaker 2: It looks kind of like a potato, but no, it's
a it's a it's a full head of a man.
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want you to take off that file folder situation on
the bottom shelf.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, because this.
Speaker 1: Is not you need it to be esthetically pleasing behind
you exactly.
Speaker 2: So we have we have so much stuff that we
can put up here. Yeah, and it just feels like
there's too much that now. It feels like how do
even how do we even start?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It feels cluttered if you put it all up there? Yeah,
you know what you could do? Kimberly does. Kimberly rotates.
She's got a little shelf behind her is she rotates things.
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. Unfortunately for us, we don't have
a follow through in this right.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Once it's up there, it's staying there.
Speaker 1: Okay, could be okay, I get it all right. Yeah.
Kimberly does rotate her stuff, which is kind of funny
because it's interesting for me because then I can like
study it behind your head, like what does that say?
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have some old news from last week. But then you
reminded me about Milania, her thug ass going to her lawyer.
It was like a preliminary hearing, Cana.
Speaker 2: My favorite part about this court hearing, yeah, is he's
sitting here like this and you just see Milania back
here like this.
Speaker 1: She is really far from the camera.
Speaker 2: Just like I feel like most of the time, like
if you're joining Skype or whatever, like you would be
on your own computer.
Speaker 1: Like like dead center of the screen like this, Like yes, yes.
Speaker 2: It felt very much like when the teacher wants to
talk to your parents at school and you like just
sit there and you're just like you know, I I
love that girl, and I'm grateful to all that she
has brought us, and I hope that she is I
hope that she his ass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean she is over eighteen, I assume since
she's in college. So whatever she did. You know, people
are like, oh my god, like he's such a pet
word for pressing charges on her. I'm like, well, actually,
from you know, my understanding from watching a Lot of
Love after lock Up is once the police are called
to your house, it's you don't get a choice if
you press charges, it's domestic.
Speaker 2: And they said it was one of the sisters who
they think called the police.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think she was like, yeah, come.
Speaker 2: Help, here's my question.
Speaker 1: My sister's wilded out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gabriella. Where I mean she's obviously, I mean, if
she didn't look exactly like her dad, I would assume
she had a different father. She hates this family, where
is she?
Speaker 1: I think she's too smart for them. And there's she's
like on the Monsters. I don't know if you remember
that show. It was a family of monsters, but there
was this one blonde, beautiful girl and then she was
the ugly one because everybody was the monsters. They were
all the monsters. So it's sort of like she's the
one beautiful person in the family, but they think she's
a monster because she's on you know.
Speaker 2: But during this court hearing it revealed that she hit
l R.
Speaker 1: Anybody else in the house with those initials or I
don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think we've just got one. And here's the thing too.
People are like, she's an adult. She can't get that,
but like, really, are you really an adult? Like I
feel like adulthood has been pushed back to at least
twenty one.
Speaker 1: Oh well you're okay. Let's say, let's say how old
she is Melania.
Speaker 2: I hope she's not over twenty one. She's definitely not ninety.
Speaker 1: She's twenty.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she's not an adult yet in my eyes.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, her frontal lobe is definitely not formed.
Speaker 2: And I'll actually, you know what, I'm going to go
a step further.
Speaker 1: And I don't care she is. Doesn't put her in college.
I don't care she is. And she punched her right,
It's like.
Speaker 2: Okay, what we give her a weekend stint at Juvie.
I feel like that's all we can really do at
this point.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. It's a domestic violence against a step father.
I think if she would have had domestic violence against
a boyfriend or a roommate, it would be different. But
this is an adult male living in the house.
Speaker 2: That and I also like, I think too about the
fact that she did that Father's Day post.
Speaker 1: Did she do it?
Speaker 2: I think, what do you think someone else got on
her social media?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think a PR person was like, we're about
to do this, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: See. I think that's bad for your case because now
you're like, well, you hit this guy and you're here,
you are saying he's a great guy. If he's not
the one who can press charges against you, if it's
just going to happen no matter what, then I would
be like, I'm so glad that even though my dad's
in the Bahamas selling dildo's, that I still have a
real father, because this man is horrible and abusive and whatever.
Like I would, I would try to play that up
more for my case.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know they're filming. This wasn't filmed obviously,
but you know that they've got cameras everywhere, all in
and outside of that house. So at the very least
we're going to get some footage of the cops arriving
and Teresa's telling what happened. Like, I can't talk about
it because it's like at okay, you know borders, Yeah,
but I mean, Teresa, I rub those three brain sails
together and get away from this guy.
Speaker 2: This season of Jersey, I hope it doesn't even fucking happen.
I think it's going to be terrible.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: I'm so sick of them putting random ass people together
and trying to tell us that they're friends. Rhode Island
works good because a lot of these people have history together.
Oh yeah, and the one who didn't was Ashley, which
she sucked and Rosie, who at least was better because
she would start some stuff. But she's not the She
wasn't like the main energy. It's like Liz, Joelln, Alicia,
and Kelsey all have ties to each other. Rosie was
just a local weather girl or whatever.
Speaker 1: What did you think about Liz quitting?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm very very upset by it because
but people don't understand is some people are like, thank god,
she's such a dark energy, and it's like, yeah, that's
why we need her. We need dark energy. I need
someone like Liz who's so fucking scary. Like Liz. Liz
was the craziest ride I've ever been on because she
was here. She was my number one okay, and it
was like, in a matter of two episodes, she was
at my very bottom, even under Rouella, who did nothing
other than have her husband cheat on her.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was sad about Liz going because I thought
we needed her. And I think she also, you know,
like you said, she knew everybody organically, and I think
that's important. But I think some I think there's a
federal investigation happening that she doesn't want to be on television.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I don't know that's alleged.
Speaker 2: I don't I'm I'm upset by it. I do think
it's a loss and we're going to feel it. And
now we're gonna have to get more screen time to Ashley.
Speaker 1: God, she's got to get more involved in the group.
Speaker 2: She's got to get more involved in the group. But also,
like I feel like Ashley became an influencer in like
twenty twelve and she's still doing the same shit.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know her because I don't. I'm not
a Bachelor girly, so I don't.
Speaker 2: Know her either, but I know enough about her to
hate her. Oh and it's sad because, like I think
that she's a nice person, but she's not a housewife.
She's not made for this.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think she's probably on the
wrong show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, just to the Bachelor World,
we didn't need her, and I think that. But I
think Rhode Island was one of the best first seasons
of a show we've ever had.
Speaker 1: Are you depressed about Ladies of London? Like, I am
so ridiculous? So why? And then I had a listener
reach out that said, like that they live in London. Yeah,
and they said I've seen Real Housewives of London.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, it's nowhere is good
as Ladies of London. But we're getting it. It's coming
to Peacock sometime.
Speaker 2: Here was the problem with Ladies of London. I will
say this there was the only problem was we really
like hit the ground running. Yeah, and then it felt
like all of a sudden they wrapped it up like
they were just kind of like, let's end this, and
it was almost it came out of nowhere. Like I
was like, I couldn't believe that was the finale, and
we just I could.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a perfect finale, a fashion show,
a birth, I mean, you know, come on, but it just.
Speaker 2: Felt like, all of a sudden, we like sped up
time to get to this finale, and that didn't make
sense to me. And to the fact that we are
not going to have Martha on television anymore, the fact
that we are not going to be able to properly
mourn the loss of Hecate, that's that's tough.
Speaker 1: The fact that that bird drowned in a bird bath.
Speaker 2: After the news came out that the show was canceled,
I was.
Speaker 1: Like, it's sort of like with they cancel Real Housewives
a Miami and then Lisa Haxting gets arrested for stalking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn it.
Speaker 1: You know who's.
Speaker 2: Energy into Real Housewives of New Jersey, which is a flop.
And did you see the ladies are r ogs of NYC.
They're getting more episodes order of this The Golden Life.
Speaker 1: Before it's even started. Yeah, all right, so we got
lou Anne, we got Ramona, got Sonya.
Speaker 2: Ye, Kelly, Derenda Winda, what are you doing here without Donda?
I can't wait. These women helped raise me. You know
what I mean? I do, because here's the thing. My
birth mother was Vicky Gumbelson in this world and I
don't I don't want her to be my mom. But
it's like she gave notes to me because she started housewives.
Speaker 1: You know, so you're happy that she's back.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I hate Vicky. Oh okay, she gave birth
to me, but I'm not claiming her as my mother.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got it. Okay.
Speaker 2: You know these women, these were my aunties. These were
the ones who were like, you know, your mom's too
busy out there selling insurance. We're gonna raise you.
Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, yeah, okay, I'm very excited about it. Now.
They do have a lot of problematic oh yes, for sure,
opinions on things. Yes, But if I once a day,
don't watch Ramona doing in that sand on song?
Speaker 2: The which song? I go to San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go to San Juan. So right when that
trend hit, I literally was in Puerto Rico and Matt
sent me a text and because you gotta do this,
I go, what am I trolling around a baby sit
on the beach. No, yea, I missed my opportunity. But
to see her do these influence her videos and she's
just a beat off every time.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: And then her daughter posts on that was equally as bad,
and it's like the apple doesn't fall far from that tree.
Speaker 2: Avery Singer is the sister I never fucking wanted. I
hate Avery Singer with a deep passion.
Speaker 1: I think Ace and Avery you're cute. What if you
guys were twins?
Speaker 2: No, we're not. She's she is Dakota Fanning in Uptown
Girls before she becomes fun.
Speaker 1: You know, that's just that's a young reference that I
don't get.
Speaker 2: You've never seen Uptown Girls.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sure I have.
Speaker 2: With Britney Murphy rip. You know. Oh my god, that's
a good one. That's a great movie, very moving, very touching.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that. Yeah, I will say that. Okay,
So when does that show come out? Though? When are
we getting the Golden Girls? Years?
Speaker 2: Not sure? I don't know what our release date is.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it Please don't let it be August.
I've got so many shows in August. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I know that what is a show called Golden Ages
Golden Years. No, it's not Golden Golden.
Speaker 1: Ladies of e It's called it's called Kelly Bensimon's fucking nuts.
Speaker 2: No idea you can't find when it's gonna premiere, But
I'm excited for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll love to see some delusional Luiyan and some.
Speaker 2: Sonia getting drunk and falling and hurting herself and then
to havend Eye. Nothing brings me more joy than Direnda slurring.
Speaker 1: Just getting drunk and just just hateful.
Speaker 2: There was an episode I think she's like giving a
speech and it might be on the Luens For's wedding.
Speaker 1: It's Lunne and Tom's engagement party. Yes, when we got
the yacht, Darling, we got the yacht.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we can't understand a thing she says. Now
that is put that in one of my core memories.
Speaker 1: I think that underneath on the screen they put like unintelligible,
like they put those words on the screen because you.
It was like I was gonna say these two, I
introduced you and then yeah, and then realized, like what okay,
I think she said something nice.
Speaker 2: I love that one. And then there's another one. Too.
When it's Derinda, Sonya and uh Ramona. Yeah, they're up
giving a speech for like a charity, and they're arguing
about like who's gonna talk, and she's like be quiet, okay,
It's like can you gotta listen? Okay, Like I'm sorry,
but stop talking, Sonya, and then Derenda's like both of
you shut them up, like and it's.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile the girl who's like the recipient of like the
it's like some like sick child at standing there going.
Speaker 2: Yes and let's not forget too. Lu Ane saying, you know,
losing weight's the easy part about the girls that you
want to be a model.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were literally like it a soup kitchen. Yeah,
you know it's all relatable. Okay, let me ask you,
do you think that I have bad hair?
Speaker 2: No? I think you have great hair? All right, Why I.
Speaker 1: Just had a listener tell me that the eighties called
to one of their banks back and that my banks
were terrible. Awful was the word. She's actually, so I'm
just trying to reevaluate my hair. Wow, Yeah, it was hurtful.
Speaker 2: Have you ever done, like have you done like a
center part with like curtain bangs?
Speaker 1: I've tried. My hair doesn't want to go in the center.
It's been going to this side since I was born, right,
And I've tried, Like, I get out of the shower
and I go today's the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I tried to do a center part and then
I ended up looking like you know, like how Selene
Dion has a really long face. Yeah, yeah, I end
up looking like that.
Speaker 2: Shoot, you just do what I do. I just wake up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I woke up and took a shower. I
want to tell you I got out of the bed
because you know, I don't like to wake up early,
but I do it for you. I got out of
the bed at nine oh five, okay.
Speaker 2: And again I want people to realize, in what world
is nine oh five early for me? Okay?
Speaker 1: And I showered, put on makeup, got a cup of coffee,
shoved in a Chick fil a Chicken Mini, and was
ready to go. Did you I can get ready so fast?
Speaker 2: Did you used to struggle when you had to take
your kids to school?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, when my son was in middle school and
we had to it started at eight, so we had
to like really be hitting the road. But I think
we had it like it was because it's only like
two miles away. But the traffic. Yeah, and he you know,
I know if it was going to like take the
bus that came right to our front door. So and
my daughter too, went to the same middle school. And
when it was like, I think it started at eight.
So I think if you didn't hit hit it at
exactly like seven thirty nine, you would make it because
of the traffic. So we if we get in the
car at seven forty one, distress, distress and fully in
my like not a tooth brushed, nothing, just in the pajamas.
But you know, lunch is packed, you know, doing my job,
but pretty unhappy. Then my daughter went to a sort
of a special tea cut type of high school because
she has such severe ADHD and that school started at ten.
Speaker 2: Oh well yeah, and guess what you know.
Speaker 1: Of the time late. But between the two of us,
it's not a good team.
Speaker 2: Not a good team of the morning. I'm best in
the morning.
Speaker 1: I know people when I go to the beach, people
are up and they're doing things in the morning, and
that's when you can see the best gator spotting and
the best birds, and you can see the sunrise and
all this stuff. And I'm just like see you around noon.
Speaker 2: No, I do you think do you stay up late?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do stay up late, but not like super late.
I mean like last night, I got in the bed
at eleven, probably had the Oh I was up later
than you. Well, I mean I had the light off
by twelve. But then because I'm old, I don't go
to sleep right away. You probably your head hits the
pillow and it's snooze.
Speaker 2: Oh. I've actually developed NARCOLEPSI recently. These kids have taken
everything out of me. Yeah, and I'm just like, I'm
just gonna like lay here and I'm out gone.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better than a little midday.
Speaker 2: Nap, no wake up, and I hate it.
Speaker 1: Oh. I love the midday now. But just like so,
I got an MRI yesterday. I actually had two MRIs yesterday. Oh,
dead asleep. It's like.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, I've never had an MRI, but
I know I would be scared out of my mind.
Speaker 1: Well, if you have any kind of claustrophobia, yeah I do.
And I know you don't pop pills like I do.
But if you took like a little half xanax, it
really takes I didn't have to because I was thrilled
about the nap. But if you have any kind of that,
your doctor can prescribe like a little something to take
the edge off and then maybe you can relax.
Speaker 2: No, because it's probably my first time taking it, and
then I'm gonna be sitting there like, oh God, I
think my schizophrenia is being unlocked. Here is the machine
always this loud, and they like you have to stand still,
and I'm like, I'm scared.
Speaker 1: I know it'd be terrible you lay down, But it
also depends on the part of your body they're doing,
so this was like my back and stuff. So I
laid on my back where they put like a heavy
thing on my stomach, which also didn't mind. It felt
like a way to blanket. But I've had them before
where you have to lay on your stomach.
Speaker 2: I would be better on my stomach.
Speaker 1: And it's it's again. It's just a lovely nap in
a tube. But they have open MRIs ACEFEO have to
get one. They have open ones for people that have.
Speaker 2: Cromsheah, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you see the video that I sent you
of Sarper from ninety Day Fiance being in Scotts Sale
or Phoenix or wherever, talking about like this is not
natural to be this hot.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know who the person was, so when
you said that, I was like, no, I thought you
were just sending it to me because I live in Arizona.
But let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: He's a ninety day fiance person. He's a stand up comedian.
You should go see this.
Speaker 2: Check it is absolutely terrible. But we went to the
Midwest this summer. Okay, perfect, No, I've never been more
hot miserable in my entire fuckcause it was human the humidity,
the humidity, as my mom calls it, The humidity is
too much. I can't do the humidity. I hate humidity.
I was like, we were loading up the car with
like suitcases, and at one point I feel like I'm
just roid raging, throwing shit into the car because I'm
so angry at how miserable I am. Just being so wet.
Speaker 1: It's just so sticky. It's like you walk outside and
you feel like somebody's put a film on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I hate it. So I'd rather be here
burning up in this dry ass heat and whatever. It is. Miserable,
don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: But what do you do with the kids to like
you have? Like, Okay, we got to play before six
am or after nine pm.
Speaker 2: So we try to do if we're gonna do anything outside,
we have a pool. Everyone in Arizona has a pool. Yeah, yeah,
that's that's helpful. But I mean a lot of our
play dates during the summer consist.
Speaker 1: Of target.
Speaker 2: Small walking basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, mall's probably thrive in Arizona because people want
to go inside.
Speaker 2: I hate a mall, though I love Oh my god,
there's nothing worse than a mall. And just you go
to the food court and you smell eight million different
types of food together.
Speaker 1: Well, don't go to the food court. Don't do that.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to walk by it to go to
certain places.
Speaker 1: I have to go to the mall tomorrow because I
have to get my computer fixed. Yeah, and that's where
the Apple store is, and I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, here's the other funny thing. Arizona has a ton
of outdoor malls.
Speaker 1: Well that do they have the misters.
Speaker 2: Sometimes but not usually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Midwest not for.
Speaker 2: You, No, No, I thought it would be. I thought
I was gonna love the Midwest. I was ready to
make it my whole personality. And then I felt one
lick of that humidity and I was out.
Speaker 1: And you were literally like a lick at humidity. Yeah, okay,
oh see, so you hate Vicky. This is surprising. I
you know, I'm in the minority as usually I am
with things, but I enjoy Vicky a lot. What I do?
Speaker 2: I love it. What is it that you enjoy about her?
The way that she told these people like and come back,
I'll pay you, Leida. I'm like, you didn't pay them,
The fact that she thinks that and delays should give
them their firstborn child. The fact that she's so fucking entitled,
The fact that she went on the reality podcast and
was like she thinks in her head that this Real Housewives,
Ultimate Girls Trip twenty years or whatever thing is her show.
The way that she always says, it's my show, it's
my show, this is this is my show, I VICKI.
Speaker 1: She's not wrong. Ace. She did start the franchise. She
was the first housewife on the first Housewife franchise, So
she's not wrong. Should she say it out loud? No,
But she's not so wrong.
Speaker 2: If we only had oh see, we would have quit
a long time ago. These other women. Maybe she started it,
but the she didn't build it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it doesn't matter. She's still the og the oz.
Speaker 2: No, I'm a respect on Abelson. I don't need her.
I don't need her and Shannon and their hijiings. I
don't need Shannon walking Archie and Troy and being like
oh whoa, whoa, who my god, shut up, Ace, my
headphones fell off. A yeah, calm down, Shannondo. It's under
my skin because you know what, I was a Shannon
Badour champion when she started the show.
Speaker 1: When she started with the big house with the crystals
in the wall and her horrible husband like shoving chips
in his mouth and calling her fat.
Speaker 2: Yes, ye loved that Shannon. She was She was really unhinged.
Now she's performative on it. She's still unhinged, but she
hides that from and she gives us this performative like
who I'm crazy? Like, shut up.
Speaker 1: I agree with you that sometimes it does seem performative.
But we find we see this with housewives, right, we
see it with Derenda, who was constantly quoting her own tagle. Yeah,
I mean I just saw something. I don't know what
it was a show for I don't know if oh
it was like a password or match game or one
of those Jimmy Fallon shows. And it was a Housewives edition.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the clip that they showed is Enda going, I
made a noise, and I was like, okay, when you
constantly quote your own quotes.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, though, it was an iconic quote,
Shannon and Vicky falling over on a beach, It's not
like we've seen it.
Speaker 1: I agree that with you about Shannon being leaning in
like Derenda has like leaning into that part of her personality.
Speaker 2: And then she gets so threatened when people talk about
what a nightmare she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I think, and I think they did
on a couple of reunions. Back roll a clip of
every single reunion where somebody has mentioned her drinking. Yeah,
to me, you're a person that doesn't drink at all.
I'm a person who lives with a recovering alcoholic. To me,
and I'm a person who enjoys a drink. I think
it would be pretty easy just to not have a
drink on camera for three months. She is, but she
just don't do it.
Speaker 2: She is literally I will tell you this one, then
they can't They can't talk about you if you don't
do it on camera, do you know what I mean?
I know, But I also I hate a sober housewife.
There's nothing worse than a sober housewife. I'm not interested
in that lifestyle. But I did go and lay down
where Shannon Badoor had her DUI. It was still like
in shambles when I went, and so I laid down
as though she hit me. And I did appreciate that
moment in time. But Shannon's she is the definition of
a Karen. She's awful. I'm a Katie Janella apologist through
and through.
Speaker 1: Well I know everybody knows, we know.
Speaker 2: And I love Katie and I will do anything to
defend her honor. And I just is Shannon could be
the old crazy that she was when she was like
you were all gonna see, you will see and I'm
like and just going on and Heather being like, do
you think that she's having a psychotic break? Should we
call it an ambulance? God?
Speaker 1: Well, again, she was with David Badour, and that's when
you know, no woman ever drove herself crazy, right.
Speaker 2: So I think David Badour was Shannon Badour's one true
love though.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely yeah, but unfortunately not his.
Speaker 2: No, but I don't think this other wife is his either.
Speaker 1: No, he's rolled through how many times they fill for divorce,
like at least twice a week exactly. Yeah? Okay, so oci,
So who else is on the OC? Are you concerned
about Heather Debro's shocking weight loss? Because I am.
Speaker 2: You know what if that woman, if that, if her
mother was my mother, right, I would also probably will
look like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would also be.
Speaker 2: That's not true. I'd be the opposite. I look like
Tammy from Thousand Pounds Sisters, because I would just eat
to deal with that.
Speaker 1: Woman, eat with your feelings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her mother is awful. She is, she's her and
Muzzy could join a majen group.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, is she worse than Muzzy?
Speaker 2: Yes, because here's the thing. I think the only difference
is that Heather's mom knows that she's on camera, so
we're seeing her at her best.
Speaker 1: Okay, you think Heather's mom is acting, She's good in
her mind, She's like, I am being a great mom
right now?
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely? Wow.
Speaker 1: Do you think Terry Debrerou's money came from inheritance from
his brother being the lead singer of Quiet Riot.
Speaker 2: So I went and I spread that rumor like wildfire,
because I don't.
Speaker 1: Think Quiet Riot made so much money that they could
buy a twenty million dollar house.
Speaker 2: No. I spread that rumor like a year or two
ago about that and about I guess his dad dying.
I didn't really think about the fact that, like his
mom would get whatever money his dad died. Yeah, But
I still it doesn't quite make sense to me how
they have so much money.
Speaker 1: They've been on a lot of TV shows. I mean,
not necessarily her, but I mean he's been on three
different E shows, so he makes money from that and.
Speaker 2: Came on the show. When they came on the show,
though they had a shit ton of money.
Speaker 1: Well, I think they're very good at house flipping, you know.
Speaker 2: And we just saw them lose eight million dollars on
a house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's nothing to.
Speaker 2: Them exactly, because how do they have so much money?
Who's he doing tits.
Speaker 1: On anybody and everybody? And he's had several TV shows,
and they've launched brands and things, some successful, some not.
I think that I think that their money is eighty
percent earned twenty percent, you know, investments from inheritance. Okay, well,
Vicky's not completely wrong, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think that I'm grateful that we have at least
money from her, because otherwise we got Emily and we
got Gina. And let me tell you what, if we
make it to a season twenty one, which I really
do believe, season twenty is a funeral. That's why all
the women are dressed in black. They're like, we're taking
this thing out back, we're shooting it. I agree, But Okay,
I feel like if they do get a season twenty
one and Gina's on it, her journey needs to be
about just going and seeing a chiropractor, because I would
love to see her back.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to see more about his crazy
ex wife who was stalking them and they were like
every other week having to call the police on this woman,
and now the kids live with them full time. I
think I personally think it's a dangerous situation for them
to be in because this woman is unhinged and I
watch enough Dayline to know how it could end.
Speaker 2: But we need more of it on camera, We need more.
Speaker 1: Of it discussed because she discussed it when she asked
him to move out. I think she asked him to
move out for her own safety. Probably she's like, I
don't want me and my kids. This woman is driving up,
is sitting in front of our home daily.
Speaker 2: Also this drives me insane. But yes, why is Emily
Simpson's house. Her carpet is always covered in saran wrap.
It looks like she's always doing work on it. But
I think she's like, I don't want these camera men
dragging their feet through my house, and so she get
over yourself. I hate Emily Simpson. I will never like
Emily Simpson again. I think that if you're gonna waste
my time, say, I'm gonna talk to them like you're stupid.
I think your little husband's a TRB. I think that
your mom, your step or your mother in law looks
like the keebler elf.
Speaker 1: But she can't help that.
Speaker 2: I understand that she shouldn't be catching strays right now.
But I hate Emily Simpson and I will never forgive her.
And I think that she hurt Katie Janella in a
way that I cannot forgive.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'll say about Emily. Her body be.
Speaker 2: Banging yes, I'll give her that, because good.
Speaker 1: Lord, like, Wow, her body's banging, and I'm gonna give
her that. I don't hate her. I I feel that
Emily and continue to be on our screens, even though
people have called for them to be chopped for at
least seven.
Speaker 2: Seasons, right for every season they've been on.
Speaker 1: I'm entertained by Gina a lot. I think she's got
a lot of good one liners.
Speaker 2: Gina to me, since we've been able to kind of
reel it in on the looks. Once we took those
extensions out, as we started getting some outfits that weren't
only from Forever twenty one, yeah, it felt like, Okay,
I can handle her. I don't want Emily. I want
her gone, and I will lead that rally. If I
had to pick between Vicky and Emily, I would pick Vicky.
Speaker 1: Well, well, yeah, any normal person would. Okay. I would
like to talk about Jen Piedronte and her pyromaniaccent.
Speaker 2: What has happened to her faith?
Speaker 1: Does it look like that?
Speaker 2: Yes, she was so gorgeous.
Speaker 1: And now she's terrifying the second time my headphone, I
didn't notice that with her face.
Speaker 2: It's not in the episode it's in the confessionals.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, well, I gotta tell you I
was half watching it. But she does enjoy some face work.
Speaker 2: So can I tell you something that blew my mind?
Speaker 1: Yes? Please?
Speaker 2: When I saw her ex husband in my head this
whole time, her ex husband was kind of like a
like a don't look him up yet. Let me explain first.
I imagined him to kind of be like a little
bit heavier set, you know, but like the successful business type.
I just I've pictured this the entire time. He's fit
and bald. Okay, I can see that coming.
Speaker 1: Well, she's very fit, so I know.
Speaker 2: But like my mom is fit and my dad is not.
You know, that's how a lot of times it goes. Okay,
there's kind of a man with some chub on him
and he's with a woman like that.
Speaker 1: You know, my husband is fit and I am not.
So I am the goo in the relationship.
Speaker 2: I think gotcha well with bad Banks. But I was
shocked that he's bald and in shape.
Speaker 1: I was like, what, but maybe he got in shape
after she got in shape, do you know what I mean?
Or maybe he got in shape when he married her
friend or whatnot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I kind of imagine him to
look like a hotter version of oh, what's the guy
who killed his son and his wife and Chris Watts. No, no, god, no,
he's he's got a great body. Unfortunately it was from those.
Speaker 1: Oh Murda, oh god.
Speaker 2: But like a hot version of that.
Speaker 1: How how how do you make that hot?
Speaker 2: It just it could happen. Jeez, Louis, That's what I
was picturing this whole time.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, I know you love to watch the documentaries
about the Terrible Mom. So we had Mackenzie Schrilla, we
had Taylor from Maternal Instincts, and of course we had
your favorite, the lady from high school Caffish, Yes, Kendra, Kendra.
Speaker 2: So and you know this obsession really started with Patsy Ramsey.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, she didn't kill her daughter, but okay, she
didn't she did not kill her daughter, and now she's dead,
so let's don't talk ill of her.
Speaker 2: Listen. Yeah, I'm telling you right now, Patsy Ramsey died
with a lot of secrets.
Speaker 1: But one of them was that that she killed her daughter.
I don't know, I don't think.
Speaker 2: So, but that's kind of where like that's where I
got started, and then I fell in love with mommy dearest.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2: And then I from there it's just like I love
an awful mother.
Speaker 1: Oh, how do you feel? Like like Betty Broderick, she
just died, you know that story.
Speaker 2: Was she the remind me who she is?
Speaker 1: So she and her husband were married for like twenty years.
She lost she had season two right, no, this is
from way back.
Speaker 2: No, but they did Dirty John season two based on her.
Speaker 1: Oh did they?
Speaker 2: Yes? I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1: And then she put him through med school and law
school and then he literally left her for his like
twenty year old assistant, and she after they were like
she had a boyfriend and they were like fully divorced.
She just one night in the middle of the night
was like, you know what, fuck that guy whenever they
shot him in the face.
Speaker 2: I blame okay, I blame him though, Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Good, he was terrible. But so we've got Have you
been listening to those like McKenzie Serrilla calls from jail?
Speaker 2: No, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: They're so good. It's like, God, Mom, can you just
call up here and tell them? Like, my bet is
so uncomfortable Oh my god. I love her, and her
mom's like, yeah, last time I called it didn't go.
I mean, she's in like prison for killing two people,
and she wants her mom to call up a complaint
about her mattress.
Speaker 2: You know what the Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know her whatever her name is, maternal instinct.
Speaker 2: She she has a whole list of requests while she's
in prison.
Speaker 1: And she's talking to her mom too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her mom is following through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, her mom needs to.
Speaker 2: You know, Taylor's got real bad migraines. Can you guys
turn the lights down? It not she's having a hard time.
Oh well, you know what, the lights didn't get turned
down when she was cutting the feetus out of her friend.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So wait, fuck her? Yeah, fuck her
and put a T shirt over your eyes okay, or
yeah whatever.
Speaker 2: Or just stab your eyes out at this.
Speaker 1: Point, all right, we have to talk about The Valley.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank god. Okay, everyone's shitting on the Valley.
Everyone's saying that The Valley.
Speaker 1: Best show on television besides Platform That show you so much.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel. I love the I love to
hate Dan.
Speaker 1: Ya Okay, I have a question. Yeah, this is a big,
big bone of contention for me in my life.
Speaker 2: Oh god, is it about La La? No?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you get screeners for the Valley?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wish.
Speaker 1: Okay if you said you got screeners for the Valley?
And I've been begging and I now have found the
other person that likes the Valley, it's you, because everybody
hates it. I'm like, well, I want you give me screeners.
I'm the only person that likes it.
Speaker 2: I heard that Bravo screeners are like you would you
would be able to grow a third arm easier than
get screeners from Bravo.
Speaker 1: I wrote them specifically to the person that I knew
was in charge of the screeners for this show. I
got the information and the person wrote back with the
other person c seed on it. They gave me the
information and was like, I will look into it and
get back to you. Well that's been two months. Yeah,
so they're never going to give me screeners.
Speaker 2: I love the Valley so much, it's.
Speaker 1: So good, and I have nothing. I as you can
imagine being I was married to somebody like Danny, not
not his personality, but the hiding of the drinking, and
they're lying about it. And it is so triggering to me,
but it also just fuels my anger.
Speaker 2: But did you take on the NIA approach? Were you
always covering for him?
Speaker 1: Uh? Somewhat. But I would never like go and like
stand between and be like, don't talk to my husband
like that.
Speaker 2: I love La La Kent.
Speaker 1: I would just be like, go ahead, rip him a
new and I'll give.
Speaker 2: A fuck never apologize for it. Danielle. Danielle, daniel Look
at your wife, Danielle. Danielle, look at Danielle, Focus on me,
Focus on your hands for focus on me, like, oh
my god.
Speaker 1: I when he says so much, what did he say?
He said, you're going to heighten me. He said, you
need to quit talking to me like that. You're going
to heighten me. And she goes, Okay, daniel you're right.
Speaker 2: I'll I realized that maybe I shouldn't have been so
quick to react Danielle. Every time she says, daniel I
don't drink, but I'm gonna become an alcoholic.
Speaker 1: When they were on that boat and it's my birthday
and he's doing like a STOSSI it's my birthday. They
went to give the baby to the nanny and she goes,
I think this is a good quiet place for the baby. Danielle,
what do you think? He's like, you know, yeah, it's fine,
and she goes, I'm trying to check in with you.
Can you look at me and check in with me?
Do you think this is a safe space for the baby?
I was like, you're on a boat. There's literally one
place where the nanny can go with the baby. And
do you think he gives a flying fuck? No? He's like,
why is this baby here? Could have stayed at the
hotel with the nanny.
Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to be mean. I'm really not
trying to be mean.
Speaker 1: Okay, careful what you say. What is it going to be?
Speaker 2: That baby looks like a sea urchin. It could have
been fine. It would have been fine.
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about how cute that baby is. Who everybody
is like, that baby so cute? I want to eat
that baby. That baby's so cute.
Speaker 2: I would be worried that baby was gonna eat the boy.
Ya I think that Kristen's christ is so cute. Oh
my god, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but it's true.
Speaker 1: Ace. I try to get through an episode with you
that you're saying something terrible.
Speaker 2: Right now, don't go for the kids. But she's never
gonna see this.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, oh lord. Well I love the show.
I love La La just you know I'm gonna pop,
You're gonna get popped. I love all of it. She's
just constantly pulling out old La Lah with the headband
and she's going all street on it.
Speaker 2: I love it great.
Speaker 1: I love it, I I and I maybe you love
it because you're sort of not sort of you are
in this same phase of your life where there's postpartum,
you're stress, there's babies, there's you know. And so with Kristen, yes,
she's being horrible to Luke, but he also is not.
There's nothing he can say that's right, so he actually
just probably needs to just not. Here's the thing I was,
they need therapy.
Speaker 2: I was on Luke's side, which is really hard because
I don't like to be on men's side. I always
like to be on a women's side. I hate men.
And but so that that tells you how bad I
thought things were. And I get that she has postpartum,
I get that she's struggling, but I was like, girl,
come on, like you're being awful to him, yeah, And
then he said, I've only gone out like three times
this week. It's like, oh god, you know, no.
Speaker 1: Three times this week?
Speaker 2: Oh oh my god, You're so stupid.
Speaker 1: And the thing, his whole thing is, I don't even
want to be in la. I don't have any friends.
I hate it. Okay, well, then don't go out, stay
home with your baby.
Speaker 2: Right, But somehow you still find a way to go out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go out?
Speaker 2: Wants to go out?
Speaker 1: Wants to go out? Where are you going out to
a bar just to sit?
Speaker 2: My version of going out is some chain restaurant five
minutes from my house.
Speaker 1: Are you getting a spinach artichoke dip right away?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I'll tell you what. I love a spinach
and artichoke dip.
Speaker 1: Do you too? And you know what, I hate spinach
and I hate artichokes, but somehow same.
Speaker 2: Well, actually I think I like spinach, but it's also
the cheese in the mayonnaise and the mayonnaise. But I
feel like, you know what, I'm having spinach and I'm
having artichoke healthy salad.
Speaker 1: Basically it's a salad. Okay. On this show? Who else
can we talk about?
Speaker 2: Brittany? Brittany and her piece of sheep Boy Free and
the girl has the worst picker I've ever seen in
my entire life. Also, could we have put back filming
maybe one month so she could have some what recovered
from her mom make over?
Speaker 1: I think a month would have helped everybody on this cast. Yes,
what do you think about Jack's And it's kind of
like confirmed now that he's been playing spanging their their
joint bubblicist this whole.
Speaker 2: Time, how is it? And like she's been working with
them for so long, so it's like you've seen Jax
through every awful phase.
Speaker 1: That he's Yes, she's tried to spend it for him,
and and.
Speaker 2: Somehow she's believing her own lies. How could you ever
want to be with someone like Jax Taylor?
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I don't think he's like great
in bed or. I mean, we know he's good at
love bombing, but.
Speaker 2: I mean still, you know what, I don't think love
bombing would work on me because I assume everybody really
hates me.
Speaker 1: So well, try it right now. Yeah, yeah, you are
the funniest person I've ever met. Okay, well stop, see
it works, Okay, it like you have great hair.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna believe any physical compliments. The only one
I'll believe is if you say I'm funny. Oh okay,
really hit me in the heart.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you are very very funny. Now you're inappropriate,
but that's part of your charm. Okay, is there anybody
else in the valley we need to discuss the Jackson
the pumplicys. Thing is is she is she quite a
bit older than him or just the same age?
Speaker 2: No, The thing is is I think Jacks is like
fifty seven years old, like the man is old. He's
not as The problem is, we met him and he
was forty and we all thought he was like twenty three.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm fifty seven, So how dare you ken?
Speaker 2: You're not on vander pump rules?
Speaker 1: Thank god?
Speaker 2: You know you're not wearing that cute little sir dress.
Speaker 1: Oh my godless see how old is Jack's tayler.
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess fiftyfty forty seven? Oh close enough?
Speaker 1: Forty seven? Okay, Okay, Now I'm gonna say but.
Speaker 2: Like the whole show is just like it's you think.
You watch these people and you're like, god, they they've
got to get this figured out for thirty year olds
and it's like, no one's thirty Lori Krebs.
Speaker 1: Okay, it doesn't. It doesn't say.
Speaker 2: Herr krabs is going to get Lori crabs from him.
That's for sure. That's not going to go well for her.
Speaker 1: Oh that was funny, that's thank you. That's gross. Okay,
Atlanta and neither one of us are caught up. So
I know that they skipped an episode because it was
fourth of July. But lot this past week there was
an episode. Everybody's like best episode ever blah blah blah. Yeah,
Unfortunately you and I haven't watched it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Overall, are you enjoying the season?
Speaker 2: So I'm having I'm having a very hard time because
I'm enjoying the season. However, I was also very much
show a Samia apologist, and it's getting harder and harder.
It's getting harder and harder.
Speaker 1: I like her her wealth. I enjoy her wealth.
Speaker 2: I love when her and Porsche were besties and she
was her sidekick. I would have rolled the carpet, I
would have done I would have laid my body across
the tracks for her. I loved everything about her. So
when they announced her as full time, I was like, yes, yes, yeah,
we're gonna have it. And then her first season, I
was like, it's different than I was thinking. But I'm
one of those people like I'll trick myself, and this
season it's like, I can't trick myself for any longer.
Speaker 1: I wish marlow was still around.
Speaker 2: I fucking Marlowe to me was one of the absolute best,
and they got rid of her so fast. I and
then you know what, they need to bring Kenya back.
Speaker 1: It'll happen. I think, so it'll happen. Are there any Bravo,
any Brava lawsuits we need to talk about speaking?
Speaker 2: So? Oh shoot, why can't I think of her name
off the top of my head right now? Oh my god, Candy, No,
it looks like Michael Jackson, Angela Oakley, Angela oak I
was gonna say Angela, well, I was gonna say Angela Williams,
but I don't know where that came from. So she
is also hard for me because I hated her and
now I love her.
Speaker 1: I didn't like her at first, but now because she's
so quick and so funny, I'm like, okay, but why
have they put her in the world's smallest chair and
she's clearly six feet.
Speaker 2: Tall, because you know, it's we have to sabotage women.
Speaker 1: They've put her in like a child, like a three
year old chair, and she's six feet tall, and it
is not nice.
Speaker 2: We didn't spend enough time hating on Danny for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's go back. Okay, let's go back,
let's go back.
Speaker 2: I just feel like this man, I canna.
Speaker 1: I could do one hour on Danny.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love to hate him. Now he
is reporting that he is five to nine.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to tell you this, andighty Cohen is
five nine and that's true. I've met him, I've stood
next to him. He is, in fact five to nine.
He's he's a scoach taller than I am. Right, Okay,
I've had a boyfriend that's five to nine, so I
have a reference. Yeah, this man I've also met, and
he is shorter than I am and I'm five or five. Right,
he could have he could have been eye level with me,
but he definitely You must have seen him at bravokn
as well. At some point he was around you know.
Speaker 2: What I probably did, but I thought he was a
child who was lost.
Speaker 1: Well, you just didn't. All I know is when I
saw him at Bravakhn and I spoke to him, I'm
sure I have a photo. I've never seen such a
spray tan on a man in my life.
Speaker 2: I hate him.
Speaker 1: And I later talked to Michelle in like the VFP room.
I just she was just standing there waiting to like
go in one of those things, and I was chatting
with her and couldn't have been nicer. And I was like,
I just meant to and he has such a bad
spright hand. She was like that tracks and she was like.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what too. Michelle wasn't interested, wasn't interested.
I would die for this woman now, love her. I
would die for Michelle.
Speaker 1: She's a Sleeper's Michelle's a sleeper.
Speaker 2: Yes, but now I'm like, wait, she's she's like a
girl's girl. And you know who else? I love Lacey?
In what world do I love Lacey? But every time
that she puts Jesse down, I feel better. I like,
you're not going to speak like that, Jesse. If you
ever talk to a woman like that again, I will
never talk to you. And I think that you're a
piece of shit scum. And I'm just like thank you.
Speaker 1: She just everything he says. She's like, oh, she's so stupid.
She hates him. She's like, can I please be on
the show without this ball and chain?
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I also because of the lawsuits and things, I was like, God,
I don't want this girl to this thirst bucket to
be on the show. But because she's so nice and
understanding with Michelle.
Speaker 2: Forgiven, forgiven, No, I like her and that she's mean
to Jesse. Back to Daniel though, Okay, I so his dad,
I guess is a pasture, as Tamara Judge says, he
is back where they live. I am telling you right now.
One day, yea, we are going to lift the rug
up and there are going to be some skeletons there.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. And I don't know if you've talked to Kate,
but Kay Casey has done kind of a deep dive
on the church that Danny and Nea go to. Oh
she did a whole Patreon about it. And yeah, so
the pastor of that church that they go to is
literally it's sort of like Hills Song adjacent. Okay, and
if you look him up, it literally says like fashion designer, filmmaker,
her pastor actor voiceover leader of the Dadada Church. Like
that's what the pastors, that's what it says. Like on
their website, it lists all his other things that he does,
including being a pastor. So that's problematic. And they have
a lot of problematic opinions on people that are different,
so such as gay people.
Speaker 2: So I thinkna budied up to Zach this season as
bestie's because she was like, look, I like a gay person.
Speaker 1: I have a gay friend.
Speaker 2: I have a gay friend. Now don't get me started
on that black gay girl, because absolutely not. That's too far.
You know. Nia is What's so sad about Nia is
she could be the most beloved person on reality TV,
but we have to hate her because of her husband
and how she deals with everything surrounding him. And I
think that she's boring, but I think that she's she
could be such a good person if she was with him.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think when we first met her,
we were like, Wow, look at this angel, saint, miss
America whatever, you know. But because of him, she's been
dragged down.
Speaker 2: It's so, oh my god. He's the absolute worst. You know.
I used to say Kyle Cook was the worst man
on Bravo.
Speaker 1: Before that it was Jack's.
Speaker 2: Before that was Jack's, then it was Kyle Cook, but
now it's Danny. There is nobody worse than Danny. And
I don't understand how like it's let's just say, like,
let's say that the Janet thing was blown out of proportion.
What you can do is you can sit there and apologize,
and you can listen to her and say, like, I'm
so sorry that like I made you uncomfortable. That was
never my intention, and she could open up to you
about the things that happened in her past and I
would be like, I understand now, like and I I
am so sorry. He will not say I'm sorry. She
will not say I'm sorry, and therefore I'm going to
hate them forever. You hate Janet too, I've no, I
love Janet. Yeah, I'm saying Nia will never say I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh no.
Speaker 2: And the fact that she was like it wouldn't have
gone blown up in the press if you hadn't said anything.
I'm like, that's not where we should be focused right now.
We should be focused on the fact that your husband
and also what they're both are too stupid to understand
is that when everyone says we don't have a problem
with him drinking. She keeps being like everyone drinks, everyone drinks, well,
no one turns into a freaking little munchkin from the
Wizard of Oz and starts grabbing ass on everybody and
yelling at everybody. And I'm like, that's the problem. It's
not that he's drinking, it's how he acts when he drinks. Yes, absolutely, Well,
Brittany gets drunk and she starts talking about DTNA and
she gets a heavier k.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, cool, Brittany's an absolute drunk. I don't care,
doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: She's at a bar showing a Mexican bartender like this
is my son.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it's like, I don't care. I
don't care if you're a drunk. Love it. I honestly,
it makes TV better. But the problem is that he
is very problematic and they will never own that and
they will never apologize for it. And all she does
is like, I want to protect Danielle. I want to
protect Danielle.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I was recording with somebody and they said that
they had heard that they were not going to go
to the reunion Danny and Nya.
Speaker 2: No, they went already. So okay, I listened to an
episode of Bitch sessh. You know I love those gales, Yes,
and they Danielle came on and was like, oh my god,
there is this thing. Well it was posted. I want
to believe it was posted for like season two, not
even season three. It was like a fake thing. And
because they said, Nia was on Watch What Happens Live
and she was like, the reunion was very telling, very
eye opening or whatever. So she was already there when
this whole announcement came out that they weren't going to
be at the reunion.
Speaker 1: But you just said you thought it was from season two.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm saying that rumor started in season
two and then somehow it resurfaced, this post of them
saying they're not going to go to the reunion and
they're done with the show. Blah blah blah blah blah.
It was all fake and they were already at this
season's reunion.
Speaker 1: How do you know that the season's reunion has already
been filmed?
Speaker 2: Because she said that, Andy said what did you think
of the reunion? And she said, I think that it
was very eye opening for three?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, Okay, interesting.
Speaker 2: Because I mean the show's it's right around the corner
the finale. Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm going to stand
by this.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a person that might know more than
us said it. So I'll ask this person and then
I'll get back to you.
Speaker 2: Who was this person?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you later.
Speaker 2: I can't it's more than us.
Speaker 1: I can't tell it. It's a source who.
Speaker 2: Knows more than me. It's absolutely not. Also, where's Eddie Judge?
Speaker 1: He was in the kitchen on the first episode.
Speaker 2: Wasn't he did he die?
Speaker 1: No? Wasn't he in the kitchen talking to Tamara and
that daughter? You know they have a podcast now, the daughter,
Tamara and the daughter listen. You and I professional podcasters.
I like to think we have a decent sized audience. Please,
anybody that is listened to ACE or to Pink Shade,
let me know if you're going to listen to Tamar
and her daughter's podcast.
Speaker 2: The only podcast I would listen to would be her
other daughter's podcast. That podcast I would listen to.
Speaker 1: That's to tell all I need. It's like, it's like
when Lydia Plath went on that Dugger podcast. It was
like my mother left the house when I was eighteen,
my mother left the family. I was like, yes, Lydia,
you do it?
Speaker 2: Can I ask you because you are such a plathor
just an expert, but yes, this past season, where did
you stand in everything?
Speaker 1: Give me a person to discuss which.
Speaker 2: One, well I'm talking about in the family vers Lydia
and Zach.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't like how we ended last season. We
talked about are you good? Yeah? You good? You know
I didn't enjoy any of that.
Speaker 2: No, and I was ready to I was ready to
ride or die for Zach at the end of season
two or what not season two, but the end of
that season.
Speaker 1: Season seven, yes, I agree with you. And the way
they treated him was terrible. And the night before the wedding,
they separated the two of them and the whole not Berry,
of course, but some members of the family pull Lydia aside,
and I was like, you're making a terrible mistake. You know,
you haven't known him long enough. He's clearly light and
his loafers the whole thing, right, So that was terrible
and we were all seemply and then they all got
into a fight when brother ripped off the other one's nose.
Now we never see him anymore, and he had that
horrible girlfriend. So so when we had go into this
season with Zach's a little bitch is out here in
everybody's business, well, I was like, Okay, they just don't
like him because he's not a big partier and he's
sort of a Puritan and that okay, So now they
all like to drink and get drunk because now Kim
said it was okay.
Speaker 2: So I liked him at the beginning me too, because
I liked that he was he was forcing them, he
was out in all of them.
Speaker 1: I liked it he was. And he was also like, Lydia,
stand up there. They've treated you terribly your whole life, right,
So I was all for that. But once I started
finding out that when the cameras weren't rolling, he was
like telling them they're going to hell because they're playing
cards against humanity, or that they were drinking in front
of Amber and she was about to commit herself to
the church. And when we already know, we've already heard
that Kim buys Amber the white class just like she's
duper Isaac, you know, like we already know.
Speaker 2: It drove me nice. But by the end that I
had to be against Lydia and zach and it's not
even really Lydia, it's mostly Zach for Lydia. Like, and
the fact that he was like, please let me answer
this question.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm speaking, and then.
Speaker 2: She comes on Instagram. I was like, guys, what you
don't know is we had been filming for twenty six
hours that day. Zachary hadn't even had lunch or anything
that day, and he was just feeling a little crappy. Okay.
She always makes an excuse for him, but I can
you imagine saying like, you, guys, you never do anything
that we want to do. Well, yeah, we don't want to,
like it's a Friday night. I'm sorry that we don't
want to sit around and sing worship songs and you know,
read the Old Testament together.
Speaker 1: What do you think about their friend Taylor, the gay
man that was married to a man for like ten
years and is the manager of Georgio's, but now he's
against gay people and he's had conversion therapy at age
like sixty.
Speaker 2: So because we get the screeners for plathfill I deep dived.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, TolC and not thank you, thank
you TLC.
Speaker 2: Because of that, I was deep diving him before the
episode came out. He had so much gay hate stuff face.
Speaker 1: He hates the gays, even then he was married to
a man for ten years.
Speaker 2: He'd put it all private and now you can't see
any of it. But it was a fun dive. It
was a fun dive to just see, like.
Speaker 1: Listen, you want to look at something crazy, you can
look at his his gay hating Facebook, which is crazy
since he is gay. And also kk Kins trying to
sell slave memory Amelia and get mad at people and
call them snowflakes if they're like, actually, you should probably
just like donate this to a museum or people probably
shouldn't have it as like a fun artifact. You guys,
I could talk about plaths twenty four to seven, I
start talking. I could go to sleep. I could talk
about it in my sleep. I so I will just
a quick promo for myself. We did cover season eight
on the free feed always before we put it always
on you know, behind the paywall. But I was like,
let's just see what's doing on the free feed. People
loved it. So we are at Keisha and I have
gone back to do an entire rewatch. We're in season four.
Let me tell you what's happening in season.
Speaker 2: Four, trying to remember where we were at season four
and now want two is the COVID season. Yes, I
did like that one. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: Between season one and season two is where Ethan became
a different person.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: He went from like, Honey, I'm the googer from down
the street.
Speaker 2: Oh, I never had a cool I got to see
olive boobies.
Speaker 1: We went from that to just pure darkness. Now we're
in season four and this is when it's Micah's twenty
first birthday and they go to the strip club and
Ethan's stairs at the.
Speaker 2: Floor the Alien Strip Club, Yes, and he brings his
little cars with him to keep him occupied, like he
had to bring his iPad with him.
Speaker 1: He and Micah is literally getting a lap dance some
hooker and I'm not scary a stripper, and Ethan in
this talking hand goes, I don't know, Michael was next
to me in the chair with that girl, and all
I heard was I had to look away, and Olivia's
just laughing, like lean into it, Bud, And then okay,
so we have that, and then we have Barry and
Kim and her just saying to him like, I don't
want to do this anymore. Is too little too late?
Like he's like, I know, I took you for granted,
but maybe we can work it out. And she's like, no,
it's too little, too late, and he looks right out
of her and goes, why you being so selfish, which,
by the way, is that's just why is himself selfish?
We don't know, but she didn't need to divorce him.
But anyway, it's a great episode that we just covered.
So that is over on Pink Shade Prime with Keisha.
Keisha calls it Whitey Wednesday because she just can't get
over the whiteness of the white people it is.
Speaker 2: It's very white. As someone who has a son who
looks like a long lost plath. Yes, you know, well
a lot of sunscreen, it's a lot of yeah, you know,
long sleeve.
Speaker 1: Swim shirts. Like k Casey says, she could wander right
onto that farm and they wouldn't even notice, No for sure, No,
uh so funny. Anyway, it's great. So we're covering that
over in Prime. We're in season four and it's really
getting good. It's really getting good. I mean this is
when Micah goes to La and all of a sudden
he has friends of different colors, and like they ask him, like,
have you ever dated a guy? He goes not that
I know of. Like he's just open and free. I
love it.
Speaker 2: I love Micah Plath and we need him back. I
need him to figure out life. I think that that
awful girl Veronica did a number on him.
Speaker 1: Sure did?
Speaker 2: She is a monster? Did you see that? For? She
was like should I text my ex? Happy Pride? And
then she like posts a screenshot like she thinks she's
so funny, and I'm like, not a thing about you
is funny.
Speaker 1: She literally is on Reddit as Veronica Plath.
Speaker 2: And I don't. I don't. I don't even want to
be part of the show.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll quit posting our reddit, go and sell homes
to people in Boca and get the fuck out of here. Okay,
we have to go now because we talked for too long. Yes,
and you know what I am doing after this. I
am going to be recording with Keisha about Welcome to Platform.
So there's the last plug for that. Now I need
to know what's happening over on shit Talk Fannings. What
are you guys talking about it specifically? Because there's no
Sister Wives on, So what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Well, we're we're recapping a lot right now. We're doing
thousand pounds sisters. Uh, we're getting we're getting caught up there.
We're like at season six now. But something I'm really
excited about, Okay, next coming up. We we have been
able to come across in a show that has been
wiped from the ether. Okay, And I don't know if
you'll remember this, Okay, the Willis family.
Speaker 1: No, don't know it is it like doubling down with
the Jaikos and that lady is like threatening to kill
all her children. Now that's a crazy story. Worse Okay,
Willis's I don't know the Willises.
Speaker 2: The Willis where this country thing in Faiam. They were
homeschool but they didn't have like they weren't like they
were like a refreshing duggers. They weren't the duggers. They
weren't you know, like they were like And I remember
watching it being like I remember saying, if anything ever
comes out negative about this family, I'm gonna be so
sad because they are just so wonderful. I love them. Okay,
dad was sexually assaulting kids the entire time. He goes
on like a high speed chase with police. He gets
it's it's insane. So they wiped it from the internet
and now we have a copy of it and we're
gonna go back. We're gonna recap it. But like, now,
I'm so excited to watch it knowing what I know,
because wa, wait, how can other people watch it? We
we give him a copy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, on through Patreon.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, you know, I mean people find it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we don't need to discuss that, but people
need to be on your Patreon to be able to
watch it, to hear the recaps.
Speaker 2: Yes, and I am so excited because obviously what happened
to this family is horrible. But I'm like, I remember
watching this and being like, this family is so perfect
and I don't ever think that. I never think that.
So I want to see how this man duped me.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what years are we talking circa what I feel.
Speaker 2: Like I was in college? So I'm gonna say, like
two thousand last year. No, you know what, two thousand.
Let's see the Willis Family show. Let's see uh, twenty fifteen. Oh,
I was out of college.
Speaker 1: What uh where I mean? I just I don't understand.
Speaker 2: It was one.
Speaker 1: It was on TLC. Of course it was.
Speaker 2: Of course it was. And they were like this family
and then we'd go down to like their basement and
all the kids would be doing like Irish tap dancing,
and it was just and they were all homeschooled. And
I did say, though, there is this moment where we
find out that their old house burned down, and I said, well,
that was an insurance scam. Okay, but I'm willing to
look past that.
Speaker 1: Usually it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm very excited about that because it's I
love doing something that's scraped from the internet. You know,
we recapped Adults adopting adults. We got the three episodes
of that. We got those and wow, race, Yeah, don't
say we don't put in the work.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay. So if you want to learn about the
Willis family, which I'm going to go look that up immediately,
you can join is It Shit Talk Fannings And that's
how you joined the.
Speaker 2: Patroon patreon dot com shows Sister Wives Talk, but we
call shit Talk with Asen Katelyn it's a mess. We
have to do a horrible job with branding.
Speaker 1: Okay, and yeah, that's confusing. And then that's every day,
right you guys days a week, five days a week, okay,
all right? And then what are you covering anything on
your free feed or just everybody's got to go to Patreon.
Speaker 2: We just we did this last season of Platha on
the free feed. Yeah, and the numbers were abysmal in
comparison to Sister Wives, so that of course, and then
I'm thinking that maybe we'll do that with uh this
uh Double Lives of Suburban Wives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to cover that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's gonna be good. And then I
think what I'll do with Patreon is I'm going to
join all the women's Only fans and give people a
description of what we're seeing there.
Speaker 1: Well, the Only Fans is a whole uh topic of
discussion on Last Resort, which again, if you're you really
should just binge it. This season it's all about Kara
and Ghirrimo and Kara's butthole on Only Fans.
Speaker 2: She's not the one who is farting in jars, is she? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Karen, no no no, no, no, Karen Garma. Uh,
she has gone on OnlyFans and does butthole content for
to support a career.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: She wants to be ata singer.
Speaker 2: So one more thing before we go, speaking of buttholes, Okay,
imagine this. Imagine your husband's been cheating on you left
and right. Okay he is. He is treating you like ship.
Everyone's saying like, look, ma, he cheated on you, and
and he's cheating on you still. And then it comes
out of the reunion that he told his mistress that
your butthole smells like garlic.
Speaker 1: I that's pretty specific. But I would be like, all right,
well it's better than the same. My butthole smells like buttle, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, and it was. Here's the thing. I understand, A
nice garlicky smell in an Italian dish is great. Okay,
a little garlic see when you're doing your chicken is great.
But nobody wants to hear that their butthole smells like garlic.
It was not said in a complimentary way.
Speaker 1: No it wasn't. And nobody needs to know what anybody's
butthole smells like anyway, So let's end it there.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's end it there, unless you're like changing a
baby's diaper, and then that's all right. Everybody, please follow Ace.
I think you're like a spanning underscore, A.
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I love you so much. I love you.
Speaker 1: Please tell Caitlin, I said, hi, I will. Okay, please
follow me on Instagram think shape Okay, bye bye