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Speaker 1: Understand the thinking atheist. It's not a person, it's a symbol,

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an idea.

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Speaker 2: The population of atheists this country is going through.

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Speaker 1: The rule, rejecting faith, pursuing knowledge, challenging the sacred. If

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I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth,

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not because.

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Speaker 3: I put my hand on a book and made a wish.

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Speaker 1: And working together for a more rational world.

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Speaker 3: Take the risk of thinking, feel so much more happiness.

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Speaker 2: Truth Usian wisdom will come to you that way.

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Speaker 1: Assume nothing, question everything, and start thinking. This is the

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Thinking Atheist podcast hosted by Seth Andrews.

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Speaker 2: When you're preparing.

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Speaker 3: Material to do in front of a life audience, you

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always think, well, I kind of know how this should play,

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but how is it going to really play? In other words,

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you anticipate a good response, but will people take the ride?

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So I was putting this particular speech together and I

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had those thoughts. You know, the audience is going to

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totally take the journey, and I'm going to resonate with

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them and we're going to all be on the same

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page and it's going to be amazing, or they're going

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to circle the building with torches and which is it

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going to be? Well? Fortunately, I gave this speech in Nashville, Tennessee.

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I gave it in Sarnia, Ontario, several cities in Texas.

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Now I am playing the audio of it for you here,

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and the response was overwhelmingly good.

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Speaker 2: People. I don't know, they seem to need.

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Speaker 3: What was being said, like it spoke to them in

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this cultural moment, which is what I had always desired

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for this thing. I really wanted it to serve a purpose.

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And I don't know. I'll just qualifying it. But the

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that link is in the description box. This is the

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version that I gave. Well, I mean it's the same speech,

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but this is the recording from the Nashville Nuns Conference

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anys not Nuns Catholic Nuns as in no Religion, the

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Nashville Nuns Conference, which was the third weekend in July

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in Nashville, Tennessee. The speech is called how do we

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explain this when the aliens arrived? Oh my god, this

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Thank you so much for allowing me to be a

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part of Nanocan today, those of you who know me, No,

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my reputation is a pretty easy going god, not quick

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to anger. I mean, we all have our moments, right,

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even tho most chill people have their breaking points.

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Speaker 2: But I have been called and I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: I've been called the mister Rogers of secular activism.

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Speaker 4: So hello, neighbor. Fred Rogers. He was a humanist first.

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Speaker 3: He was the man who famously said, as human beings,

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our job in life is to help people realize how

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rare and valuable each one of us really is.

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Speaker 2: His calling card was kindness.

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Speaker 3: Yet even the nicest people have their limits, and today,

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in many ways, I don't feel nice.

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Speaker 2: I'm two people at war, the.

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Speaker 3: Hopeful and the hopeless, the optimist and the pessimists, the

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light versus the dark. I'm reminded of that classic George

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Carlin quote. He said, when you scratch a cynic, you

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find underneath a disappointed idealist.

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Speaker 5: Today, both men stand before you.

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Speaker 3: My two halves will take turns speaking to you.

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Speaker 2: With those segments separated by.

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Speaker 5: This and this, all right, we are all likely navigating

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conflicting ideas and emotions as we are just fire hosed

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in the freaking face with the headlines of the day.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that you know it's important we weather

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Speaker 3: Storm with clear eyes and focus and.

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Speaker 2: Sincere compassion, Compassion.

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Speaker 3: For the millions upon millions of people who have been

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brainwashed into alternate realities, realities of fear, distrust, conspiracy theories,

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even hate.

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Speaker 2: Approaching our interlocutters.

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Speaker 3: With awareness and self control and good listening skills and

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seeking opportunities to see ourselves and others embrace better ideas.

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Speaker 2: I know it's controversial.

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Speaker 3: I was a conservative evangelical who was a good person,

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Speaker 2: To think, I need to think that.

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Speaker 3: Maga right wingers might also be reachable and teachable.

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Speaker 2: And what the fuck is wrong with those people?

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Speaker 3: Jesus Ah Broh, You and I are watching in real

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time the brainworming of the entire United States.

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Speaker 2: People I used to think.

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Speaker 3: Were somewhat reasonable and centered and focused have brought us

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to this moment, a cultural moment of mind blowing, jaw dropping.

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Speaker 2: Look? Really, really, this surreal house.

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Speaker 3: This is owned by a woman named Leslie Rossi in Youngstown, Pennsylvania,

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made a Trump house.

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Speaker 2: How do we explain this shit?

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Speaker 3: When the aliens land right, So here's the scenario. Extra

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terrestrials land outside the door tomorrow and they say, hello,

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creatures of the Earth, we come in peace. Tell us

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about your species, What knowledge do you possess, What advances

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have you made? What is your system of government? We're like,

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to de strong the current political, religious, and environmental conditions

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of this country and the world. Oh have a sea,

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but be super quiet about it, because just landing here

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puts your non white skin at risk of being chucked

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into the back of an ice van. Because right now

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there's a huge percentage of human beings who are bigoted

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and stupid and irrational and terrified and ridiculous and destructive work.

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Speaker 2: But also capable of wonderful things.

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Speaker 3: Our history and our headlines are filled with the stories

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are worthy aspiration, innovation, hard work, and historic achievement. We

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revolve primates, you know, once a species of grunting and

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stone tools. We've developed to fill our world with complex languages.

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Speaker 2: We've been dreamers and.

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Speaker 3: Inventors, explorers, problem solvers, heroes and icons to emulate and admire.

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of earth and water.

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Speaker 2: We are the.

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Speaker 3: Species that produce the writings of Homer, the sculptings of Michelangelo,

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the philosophies of Aristotle, and the calculations of Einstein. We've

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invented vessels that can withstand crushing ocean pressure. Humans have

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walked on the Moon. We've sent vessels of ingenuity and

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discovery over fourteen billion miles away and counting. I can

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show you an invention, a device that allows us to

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see and talk in real time to somebody with a

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similar device on the other side of the planet. I

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might play for you our greatest music from Beethoven Symphony

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number nine to the Beatles. Well, my guitar gently weeps.

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We can fit an entire library of books on a

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single card the size of a fingertip. My species has

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decoded the genome. We've countered deadly viruses by inventing microscopic miracles.

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and we fly. We've also pierced disguise with awesome structures

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once considered impossible by our ancestors. Thanks to something we

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called the Internet, our species has immediate access to a

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near complete database of knowledge, which is why millions of

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people believe you just landed on a disc.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Millions of my species, people who have access to absolute

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proof for a spherical planet, remain convinced in the year

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Speaker 2: Five that it's all a big cover up.

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Speaker 3: Planetary scientist, meteorologist, the entire airline industry, every space agency,

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all world governments owe they're all in on the cover up.

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Speaker 2: They're all in on the hoax.

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Speaker 3: And you know the International Space Station astronauts that you

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passed while flying your ship on the way here. Millions

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of my fellow Homo sapiens are convinced that the space station,

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the Shuttle orbits, the Moon landing, the satellite images, they're

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all nothing but a bunch of greenstreamed bakery funded by

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Speaker 2: Billionaire sphear mongers who.

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Speaker 3: Really don't want all the rest of us to wake

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Speaker 2: Thin crust pizza.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. You documented your arrival when you.

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Speaker 3: Flew in, so you can prove the spherical planet with facts,

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you can demonstrate that you did not in fact travel

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through the atmosflat. Well, my alien friend, allow me to

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show you what you are up against if you are

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selling reality.

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Speaker 2: These days, vaccines.

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Speaker 3: Prevent diseases and save lives, so people refuse to get them.

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so we are banning it. The metric system is more

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efficient and makes more sense because it's decimal based.

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of course most Americans refuse to use it. UV radiation

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is a major cause of skin cancer, so of course

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Speaker 2: Do get cancer.

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Speaker 3: We've got the resource of highly educated, highly trained, highly

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experienced oncologists providing science based treatments, but we reject the

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non thing called Western medicine, and instead we entrust our

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care to untrained and often wildly expensive nobody. Natural paths

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to vibrate our energy, Meridians tell us to eat more

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kale and shove coffee up our asses. Louisiana's House of

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are harmless condensation trails behind aircraft, which many believe are

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mind control chemicals dropped by the deep state.

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Speaker 2: Oh, what's the deep state.

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Speaker 3: This is a largely undefined shadow network which is engaged

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in everything from witchcraft to human sacrifice. Many whistleblowers about

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this deep state got their information from QAnon.

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Speaker 2: What's q andon.

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Speaker 3: Qwanon is a series of nutbar conspiracy theories which originated

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with some anonymous shit poster on four chant So of

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course it all has to be true. Genetic and archaeological

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evidence overwhelmingly proves that Homo sapiens descended from earlier primates

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migrating out of Africa, so of course we have white supremacists.

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By the way, even though our genetic code confirms that

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human beings evolved were proven products of evolution, one third

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more than one third of Americans believe the unsourced myth

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that our ancestors were a pair of cosmically conjured garden

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nudists who chatted with talking snakes. That same true book

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contains slavery, sea monsters, blood, rain, giants, magic, mud, ghost sex, fire, chariots,

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and the story of a guy named Jonah who lived

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for three days in the belly of a submerged prison fish.

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a pretty good book or whatever, that's almost a third

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of the entire species. A ton of Americans won a

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government based on that book. Yet they can't tell you

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what's in the damn thing or who wrote it. Most

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Americans can't even recite half of.

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Speaker 2: The Ten Commandments.

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Speaker 3: Oh, but for them, the Bible is the preferred US Constitution.

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Speaking of government, my alien friends, there is a state

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within the United States called Georgia. Georgia District fourteen elected

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this woman, and twice had your spaceship landed in her backyard,

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she might.

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Speaker 2: Have suspected that you were the Gaspacho.

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Speaker 3: Police, you were grown by Bill Gates in a peach

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tree dish, or maybe you're part of a cabal of

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astro Jews using space lasers to set fire to the

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state at California. This is the same woman who joined

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the banchshit conspiracy wagon claiming that the Deep State is

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purposefully cloud seating climate catastrophes for the woke lib agenda.

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And if you think she's alone in my home state,

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we recently saw Oklahoma News nine have its weather radar

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vandalized because some guys thought meteorology tools were surveillance and control.

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Speaker 2: Devices being used by the deep state.

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Speaker 3: But one Internet commenter at a great refutation to these

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conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 2: They said, the.

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Speaker 3: Fact that Marjorie Taylor Green is not frequently struck by

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lighting is proof democrats do not control the weather.

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Speaker 2: Intelligence and goodness have long.

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Speaker 3: Chased Marjorie Taylor Green, and yet she has always been faster.

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Speaker 2: Her canoe has no.

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Speaker 3: Oars, the wheel is spinning, the hamster is dead. She

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is so dense that light bends around her. By the way,

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a company with a sense of humor called Concord Industries

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makes a product for sale that I bought and it

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is an actual Jewish space laser. This is a functional

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light and fan switch. You can take your light switch

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out of the wall, and why are you can turn

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your lights and fan on with the.

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Speaker 2: Jewish space laser. It's awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's false, But Georgia's District fourteen is responsible for the

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fact that we are even dealing with the Jewish space

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laser conspiracy theory. However, Georgia also saw the election of

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state Representative Stacy Abrams, an attorney, a human rights activist,

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a crusader again voter suppression, and unlike Marjorie Taylor Green,

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can actually read and ranked. Abrams has written New York

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Times best selling books. She is a crusader for equality

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and humanity. She's the best of us. If I could,

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I would introduce my alien friends to Maryland's Representative Jamie Raskin,

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former constitutional law professor, co chair of the Congressional Freethought Caucus,

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and a fearless defender.

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Speaker 2: Of democracy and equality.

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Speaker 3: He was diagnosed with cancer twice in twelve years, and

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he's still out there on the front lines fighting for

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what's right. This person is known by her initials Alexandria

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Oconsio Cortes. Today represents New York's fourteenth district. She attended

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Boston University, double majoring in international relations and economics, and

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she graduated with honors.

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Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, AOC defeated a.

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Speaker 3: Ten term incumbent in the primaries and she became the

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youngest woman ever elected to Congress. She wants medicare for everybody.

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She wants tuition free college, the abolition of ice, science

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based climate initiatives, and greater economic equality across the board.

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and I think she would be a.

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Speaker 2: Smart, fair and kind representative for our species to meet yours.

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Speaker 3: By the way, have you heard the one about AOC

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and Marjorie Taylor Green at the ballgame? Okay, so there's

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a Major League baseball game which hasn't started yet. Everybody's

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warming up on the field, and just by chance, Marjorie

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Taylor Green and AOC end up with seats right next

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to each other, and all of a sudden.

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Speaker 7: Pregate AOC stands up, reaches over and grabs Marjorie Taylor Green,

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hoists her up over her head and chucks her out

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onto the field.

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Speaker 3: And the umpire stands up and looks up, and he says, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I said, throw out the first pitch.

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Speaker 3: Whether or not people agree or disagree with her politics,

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Americans have fully admired the hard work and accomplishments of

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a strong, successful, self made woman. No, millions of Americans

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like this guy, dismiss her as a moron.

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Speaker 2: The creatness.

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson leads with the word bartender when he describes her, which,

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by the way is an insult to the entire American

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working class. And of course AOC is a woman of

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Puerto Rican descend so that makes her a DEI higher.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's DEI will?

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Speaker 3: Diversity? Equity inclusion. It is a lovely idea. It's a

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worthy goal to set a framework that promotes spare treatment

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and equal access to all people, particularly those who have

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been poorly represented or who face discrimination for race or gender, disability,

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something else.

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Speaker 2: It's equal opportunity for qualified people of color and gender

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in the workplace.

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Speaker 3: It's about erasing ethnic barriers, allowing fair access to opportunity,

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guaranteeing pay equality. It's about parental leave, protections against workplace harassment,

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modifying our spaces to accommodate those with special needs.

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Speaker 2: It's about affordable.

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Speaker 3: Housing, bigotry, free laws and policies, mutual respect, and open doors.

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Yet tens of millions of people say DEI is a

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Liberal plot to give preparential treatment to unqualified minorities. And

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somehow AOC gets shoehorned into this insult. Even when she

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arrives at the party with a double major and honors

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from Boston University. She's elected democratically in a process that

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is supposed to be the American way. Oh what's the

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American way? You ask, well, at the time of your

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arrival my extraterrestrial buddies. The markers for being a good

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American are apparently giant highway crosses, fossil fuels, and Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Fish bumper stickers.

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Speaker 3: Also, if you want to demonstrate the American way publicly,

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you must dress yourself like.

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Speaker 2: The Roman candle.

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Speaker 3: To punctuate your americanisticness, wave around to sixty round a

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minute AR fifteen, which fires lethal projectiles at a velocity

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of thirty two hundred feet per second and is frequently

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sold to mass shooting psychopaths. My country has forty four

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million of these things floating around. While licenses here are

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required to drive a car, use a trademark, sell alcohol,

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even go fishing. In some states, it's harder to buy

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allergy medication than it is to buy the Great American

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Death Stick.

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Speaker 2: America.

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Speaker 3: The United States has more firearms than citizens. Gun murder

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happens hourly, so, of course, our society has committed time, energy, money,

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and resources to wage war against windmills, brown people, vaccines,

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national parks, history books, and rainbow flags. The forty six

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thousand people who die by gun violence every year. There

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is small price to pay in the service of democracy.

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Speaker 2: Oh what's democracy.

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Speaker 3: Well, democracy is a system of government by and for

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everyday people.

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Speaker 2: The power resides in the people.

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Speaker 3: Leaders are appointed and elected in free and fair elections.

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Americans have a constitutional right to be or not be religious,

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to speak, to assemble. We have courts of law, we

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have voting rights, we have minority protections, and a representative

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government serving everybody.

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Speaker 2: The American experiment was unprecedented in the late eighteenth century.

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Speaker 3: While our founders were far from perfect, their declaration of

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independence and that constitution bucked the political order, established a

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representative republic, encouraged a diversity of ideas, installed checks and balances.

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Speaker 2: Against the types of power they had just escaped.

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Speaker 3: And founded a nation without tyrants and despots, dictators, or

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a king and shit. Allow me to introduce you to

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today's founding Fondler, the commander in thief, Genghis Dawn Tangerine

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Palpatine ejected from the womb with a silver spoon already

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in his mouth. Donald Trump is convinced tens of millions

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of swooning cult members that an entitled trust fund baby grifter, bankrupt,

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pussy grabber, warmonger, and tantrum throwing mango man. Somehow he

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has convinced people he's the chosen one, and millions of

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people agree. Like this guy, two saviors on one banner.

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People love putting Trump and Jesus on the same message board.

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Speaker 2: And check this out.

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Speaker 3: There's an actual organization called Women for Trump.

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Speaker 2: Given his history.

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Speaker 3: Given his words and behaviors, given the judgments of our courts,

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the Epstein connection everything, women.

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Speaker 2: For Trump is the equivalent of chickens for Tyson.

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Speaker 3: Yet an entire generation believes that he is the chosen

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One his own words. Perhaps it's understandable, as he apparently

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possesses god like omnissions. Nobody knows more about taxes than

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I do, and income than I do.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows more about construction than I do.

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Speaker 3: Nobody knows more about campaign finance than I do.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows consultants better than I. Know more about drones

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than anybody. Nobody knows much more about technology.

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Speaker 3: Nobody in the history of this country has ever known

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so much about infrastructre.

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Speaker 2: Donald talk, I know more about ices than the generals do. Believe.

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Nobody knows more about environmental effect statements.

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Speaker 3: And I think I know more about the environment than

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most people.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot about wind. I know a lot

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about wind. Yeah, I know, winning knows very much. I've

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studied it better than anybody. I understand the power of Facebook,

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maybe better than almost anybody. I know more about renewables

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than any human being. Nobody who knows more about poles

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than me. I know more about ports than any human

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being on Earth. Nobody knows more about bankers than I do.

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Nobody knows more about trade than me. Well, obviously he

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doesn't know about nuclear weapons. I know more about nuclear weapons,

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and he'll ever know.

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Speaker 6: I understand the tax lawyers better than almost anyone who.

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Speaker 2: Knows more about lawsuits than I do. I'm the King.

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I know a lot. I know more than I'm ever

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going to tell you. Who would fall for this?

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Speaker 3: This untethered claim by Captain covefe that somehow, somehow he

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more than the world's most credentialed scientists, historians, philosophers, logicians,

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specialist scholars, and Nobel laureates on everything from finance to

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the Middle East to nuclear weapons. This is the same

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guy who boasted about passing that basic cognition test where he.

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Speaker 2: Had to remember five words in order.

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Speaker 3: He's still boasting about it today, and yet apparently this

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qualifies him to be not just king, but maybe a

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supreme being, and his minions seem to agree.

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Speaker 2: They build idols in his honor.

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Speaker 3: This is an actual idol that was brought to the

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twenty twenty one Conservative Political Action Committee Conference and people

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were posing with this golden calf. Sculptor Alan Catrill of

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Ohio built himself a fifteen foot Paul Braune. Donald Trump

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he wants to have his own face put on Mount Rushmore.

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Check out this bizarre AI image, which was posted on

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the official White House social media account. This shit is

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so straight up North Korea that I actually went and

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photoshopped him here next to the statue of North Korea's

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Kim Jong ill for comparison. She had some serious Dear

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Leader bullshit right there.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: But you ask my alien friend, you ask me why

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would Americans who escaped a monarchy.

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Speaker 2: Want a king? Because tens of millions of registered voters

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in this country are as sharp as soup. That's why.

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Speaker 3: They won't understand today, because they don't understand yesterday. They

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love savior figures and they're easy meat for charismatic con men.

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Speaker 2: But but.

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Speaker 3: Tens of millions of others are also writing up to resist.

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They do understand are present in relation to our past,

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and they're fighting.

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Speaker 2: Hard for our future.

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Speaker 3: They're protesting, They're pushing back, always with conviction, and often

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with great humor. Can I show you some examples of

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humorous messaging from some of the No King's protests.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed this one. Hey, Maga, go fact yourself.

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Speaker 3: Ikea has better cabinets, honk if you.

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Speaker 2: Never texted secret war.

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Speaker 3: Plans, imagine this car filled with bees clean up on

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Aisle forty seven? Does this ass make my country look small?

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Here's the sign I just made for the next protest.

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I haven't taken it out in public yet, but I've

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got it in the queue. It says, the Republican Congress

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prepares to convene. Oh, my extra terrestrial friends, humanity has

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its moments, standing up for the best the worst of times.

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Speaker 2: Could you see from space?

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Speaker 3: Could you look down and see on your monitors some

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of the recent protests from across my nation under threat?

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Speaker 2: It'll warm your heart. This happened in Chicago, Illinois, recently.

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Speaker 3: New York City, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Check out this amazing aerial

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photo from San Francisco on June fourteenth. People didn't just

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hold the signs, they became the sign They sent a

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message that they are not royal subjects, they're free citizens.

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They believe that the power of the people is stronger

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than the people in power. At least that's the nation

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they want to live in. That's the country they're fighting for.

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In that sense, my extra terrestrial friend, if we were

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to divide here humans into their nature, maybe we could do.

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Speaker 2: So in a way that relates specifically to you, the alien.

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Speaker 3: In our recent history, we used to speculate a lot

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about the aliens, and our opinions, and our media reflected

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much of what we feared and what we hoped for

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and who we were. The Red Scare and fears of

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nuclear holocaust prompted an entire genre of nineteen fifties alien films.

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Speaker 2: That reflected a terrified culture.

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Speaker 3: They're coming to get us, They're going to steal everything,

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and they're going to abduct us, and they're going to

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destroy the world alien fiction, which also exposed American xenophobia.

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In the minds of many, the outsider were a danger

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coming to take everything we have, and people like that

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exists today.

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Speaker 2: The late sixties.

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Speaker 3: Began a kind of turning point where humankind became slightly

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less afraid a little more optimistic about other places and

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other intelligences. We saw a lot of films in the

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eighties and nineties that looked with wonder at the possibilities

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of making contact, discovery, connection, a kind of cosmic kinship

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with other sentient beings. And many of those optimists, dreamers,

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and ambassadors exist on our planet today. So here you are,

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You come in peace. Yet tragically, many of my fellow

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citizens do not.

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Speaker 2: Humanity. You know, we've proven.

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Speaker 3: Both profoundly sensible and wildly senseless when it comes to

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almost everything in our lives, where a species at war

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with itself constantly, and I guess it's always been that way.

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Only one hundred and sixty years ago in this country

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it was another incarnation of that same human battle, one

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side wanting to cage people, the other.

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Speaker 2: Side to liberate them.

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Speaker 3: One of the darkest periods in American history, resulting in

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one of its brightest moments, the Thirteenth Amendment and the

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abolition of slavery. Not that long ago, a culture of

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sexist told women to shut up. Many of them stood

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on the Bible when they tried to silence women. But

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another culture of liberators stood up for gender equality, resulting

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in the nineteenth Amendment to the US Constitution in August

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of nineteen twenty.

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Speaker 2: The right of citizens of the United States to.

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Speaker 3: Vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United

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States or any State on account of sex. And we

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know misogyny hasn't gone away, but the suffrage movement knocked

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down sexist barriers to the ballot box. Fifties and sixties,

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the dividers shouted America first, that sound familiar.

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Speaker 2: White America first.

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Speaker 3: The uniters among us said no, we are all the

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human condition. Nineteen fifty four Supreme Court decision in Brown

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versus Board of Education smashed school segregation. The Civil Rights

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Act of nineteen sixty four outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex,

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and national origin. Legal blocks to terracial marriage would be struck.

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Speaker 2: Down three years later. Invoking God.

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Speaker 3: Famous religious bigot Jerry Folwell and people like him famously

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said that gay people were dangerous reprobates seeking a modern

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day Sodom and Gomorrah.

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Speaker 2: They blamed homosexuals.

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Speaker 3: For everything from pedophilia, to the AIDS virus, to the

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attacks of nine to eleven, the fearful and the hateful,

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and the small claim that society had no obligation to

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serve non heterosexuals. You want healthcare, you want a job,

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you want to get married. Would you like us to

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bake you a cake? Sorry, you don't have that right.

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Speaker 2: And yet millions of other people formed a resistance. They

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stood up, and they continue to stand up.

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Speaker 3: For LGBT equality, gender equality, racial equality.

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Speaker 2: The struggle continues.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it feels like half of humans are in human

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Does anyone else feel that way? Christian nationalists are desperately

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trying to build one nation in their image and make

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the rest of us second class citizens or worse. And

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yet many good people, including many Christians, are battling daily

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for equality across the board. People like my friend Amanda

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Tyler of the Baptist Joint Committee. She's founder of Christians

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Against Christian Nationalism. We may disagree on theology, but we

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share values, and she stands shoulder to shoulder with humanists

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across the board to fight for what's right.

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Speaker 2: My friend Rachel Lazar.

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Speaker 3: Practicing Jew, is president of Americans United for the Separation

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of Church and State, an organization on the ideological and

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the legal front lines to defend our constitution. There are

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so many other good people across the religious and non

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religious spectrum who are on the right side of these

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issues and on the right side of history of humanity.

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I can't explain to you why members of my species

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would make a concentration camp the opportunity for a GOP.

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Speaker 2: I can't explain it.

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Speaker 3: To you, but I can tell you there are other

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good people who are out there protesting and being outraged

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about it because it is.

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Speaker 2: Wrong and immoral and horrible and inhuman. The cancerre a

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microcosm of the world.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to describe my species just it has the

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worst and the best, the kidnappers and the liberators, the

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killers and the healers, the builders, the burners. You have

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landed in a place that's broken and unsafe, the divided

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States of America. Given what's happening, my friends, I don't

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think you should stay.

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Speaker 2: I think you're in danger.

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Speaker 3: If you stay, many will always fear and hate what

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they don't or what they won't understand. But before you go,

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I want to give you a reason to maybe return

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someday as far as I go, I'm a work in progress.

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I'm going to try to keep myself from just becoming

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scar tissue. I'm going to try to keep from losing

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the better parts of myself. I'm going to try to

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keep from surrendering to despair and depression and exasperation. I'm

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gonna make sure while I'm cursing the darkness, I'm also spreading.

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Speaker 2: And even enjoying some light.

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Speaker 3: And when we hopefully meet again, I hope the future

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me is.

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Speaker 2: A better man than he is today. Good people will

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still be.

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Speaker 3: Here when you return, dreaming, battling, building, rebuilding. I've met

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a lot of these people, many are in this room, and.

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Speaker 2: I can assure you they will never stop. They'll never

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stop fighting for what they believe in, for what is right.

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Speaker 3: They are the best of this And on your next visit,

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on your next visit, I hope those people are the

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first people you meet.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's somebody like April of Joy. I hope

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it's April. She would be my ambassador.

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Speaker 3: I hope it's Gaale.

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Speaker 2: I hope it's Cold or David Canvas Stacy.

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Speaker 3: So this whole room, you're my pick, You're my ambassadors

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because we are seeing visitors land here in our eyeline

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every day, not necessarily from up there, but from right

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here where we live. You would be humanity's ambassadors, and

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I would proudly stand with you. You represent the goodness

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capable of You are a reason my species might be

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worth meeting again if and when that day arrives. My friends,

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it is our deep his goal to be as humanity

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worth visiting, worth knowing. At the very least, we're hoping

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that there is a greater good and lesser evils.

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Speaker 2: Oppressors will fall to the liberators.

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Speaker 3: Kindness will conquer cruelty, Humanity will overwhelm in humanity. When

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we look up and we see you arriving from the skies,

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we're not going to respond with fear and hate. We're

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going to roll out the welcome man. We're going to

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greet you with big smiles, and we're going to teach

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you how we hug and high five, will tell you

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our story, will show you our world, and after our

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great struggle, this world will indeed be a better world.

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Speaker 2: That's the goal, that's the dream.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps perhaps on that future day, as a species, we'll

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be able to walk up to you and say, sincerely,

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from the bottom of our hearts, we come in peace.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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