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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to Relationships as a Bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Agavino here with as always my lifelong pal aj

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<v Speaker 1>Benza and our relationship guru and the woman behind the

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<v Speaker 1>Gemini near Me app, Irena would Hey.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, Hey, it's happening lots and lots.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships as a Bitch is brought to you by the

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<v Speaker 1>Gemini near Me app, the self love and Relationship intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>app inspired by Irena Wood that's helping thousands to fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love AJ with themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I need some of that. I love myself more since

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<v Speaker 2>I got the app. I'm more patient with my more

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<v Speaker 2>patient with myself, and more understanding of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>choices I make. I'm not as much as a mystery

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<v Speaker 2>as I used to be to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>What that gentimental about yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, what's happening with me and Irene I I'm guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to break it to you here on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>The app has fallen in love with me. There's there's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're working on all this I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>working on all this AI stuff, but I think what

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<v Speaker 1>was the movie where, uh where the machine? Just it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the first AI gets a mind of its

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<v Speaker 1>own and falls in love.

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<v Speaker 2>Ex Machina Was it ex Machina the robot chick?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I remember that. I can't think of the name

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I recognize a car in Italian. It's interesting name for

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<v Speaker 3>a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the girl was a cybernetic cyborg whatever. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>a hot one as robots go.

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<v Speaker 2>She was. She was hot x mocking you mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, she was Alicia ver candor beautiful girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll always say that, and a j will just come

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<v Speaker 1>out with the name Alicia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I know, it's sick. It's a sickness. I know everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like Baseball fat himself, you know, is it all?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I just always always had a knack for stars, movies, dates, times, names.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, no, And I can't get him. I ren.

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<v Speaker 1>I always like, I think I've gotten into a show

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<v Speaker 1>before he will have discovered it. So I'll send him

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<v Speaker 1>something about like I sent him something about Landman after

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<v Speaker 1>the first episode, and I mean he was already on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He already knew who the young girl was, and that

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<v Speaker 1>what's the actress that plays the ex wife, the one

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<v Speaker 1>who put whipped cream on her in Varsity twenty years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>And she looks as good as she looked with the

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<v Speaker 1>whip cream in Varsity Blues.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, But what a what a what a scene it

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<v Speaker 1>is in the third Have you seen the third episode yet?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm halfway through, but I haven't finished it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, have you gotten to the scene where he brings

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<v Speaker 1>the young lawyer with him out.

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<v Speaker 2>To the No, I can't wait this thing's all over

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<v Speaker 2>x Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because because it's it's at the same time it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson about alternative you know, fuel, zero emission stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>clean energy. Except Billy Bob Thornton is so unbelievable in

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<v Speaker 1>that scene. I mean, it's just it's just crazy. What

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<v Speaker 1>you have to Yeah, you go watch the finish it

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<v Speaker 1>tonight and you will.

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<v Speaker 2>He's such a He's a really great guy too. Hung

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<v Speaker 2>out with him years ago. Very nice guy, open, honest,

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<v Speaker 2>just very different than a lot of Hollywood people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's about he seems pretty on Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you it's a trivia real quick. Then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go on the subject. His first job was working

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<v Speaker 2>on the highway waving a flag, and Bill Clinton got

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<v Speaker 2>him that job in Arkansas, That's where Billy Bob's from. Real. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>His first job was waving a flag at the construction site,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, uhill Clinton, whatever position to Clinton had

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<v Speaker 2>back then, he knew Billy Bob got on that gig

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<v Speaker 2>so heavily.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which means which means, you know, Billy Bob's got

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<v Speaker 1>some got some dirt on Bill that he's promised to

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<v Speaker 1>take the grave with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I show yeah, which.

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<v Speaker 1>After watching Clinton on that interview the other day, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't appear that that moment is too far down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he looked absolutely off.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's he didn't. He doesn't look good that

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<v Speaker 2>that the presidency ages men for sure, but he really

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<v Speaker 2>looks terrible. Uh, you know, we're sick as secrets, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's what he's dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be or as we age as fast as living

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<v Speaker 1>with our wife makes us age, could be could be

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<v Speaker 1>either of those two things in his case. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I'm pretty sure that the app has fallen

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<v Speaker 1>in love with me and I don't I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to do or how to manage.

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<v Speaker 3>It is it's how did you find that out?

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<v Speaker 1>Because of my daily affirmations. I mean, it just it

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<v Speaker 1>it speaks to me. Yes, it's just it absolutely speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And this morning it told me that I

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<v Speaker 1>should be grateful for my resilience. And the app couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly know that that word right, not the word resilience,

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<v Speaker 1>but what people have substituted for the word resilience, which

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<v Speaker 1>is this ridiculous word resiliency that now every coach, every

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<v Speaker 1>player in every sport on the planet uses that term,

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<v Speaker 1>that word resiliency when yeah, I guess it's a word,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's the correct is resilience, And that word

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have disappeared from the lexicon for athletes. And

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<v Speaker 1>so how did the app know that that word drives

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<v Speaker 1>me crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me tell you. Do you know what is synergy? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>when two people are working together, when two businesses merge,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the same thing happening with the space. Let's say,

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<v Speaker 3>when you have something inside you, whatever it is, it's illusion, fear, dream.

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<v Speaker 3>When you dream about having a kid, you see all

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<v Speaker 3>pregnant women around. When you dream about the fancy car,

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<v Speaker 3>you see this car is raising all over the place,

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<v Speaker 3>in the biggest streets of your place.

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<v Speaker 2>You leave.

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<v Speaker 3>So the same thing here. If it triggers you, it

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<v Speaker 3>means it's a part of you. So let me ask

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<v Speaker 3>you a direct question, small therapy. What is resilience for

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<v Speaker 3>you personally? If you reacted that way?

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<v Speaker 1>What does the word mean to me?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, to you, not to everybody, not vocabulary wise,

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<v Speaker 3>but to you when it slience.

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<v Speaker 1>Being strong in the face of adversity, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 3>So is it a part of your life, especially right

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<v Speaker 3>now when you like change the place of living, change

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<v Speaker 3>feminine circumstances for better. But it took a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>effort from you. So is it something that resonates with

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<v Speaker 3>your soul state right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why you reacted that way, because let's say

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<v Speaker 3>if I picked up that information court and I probably

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<v Speaker 3>would pick up something else because you have always this

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<v Speaker 3>fortune talent that's a little one, like as a joke,

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<v Speaker 3>but still it resonates with you. And this machine starts,

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<v Speaker 3>not machine starts to feel you. The universe starts to

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<v Speaker 3>feel you and give to the machine, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>somehow in a magic way, something to pick up because

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<v Speaker 3>at the right moment it work out for you exactly

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<v Speaker 3>at this day, at this state of mind. But it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk more about that because I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>I mean very much of a Everything happens for a

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<v Speaker 1>reason frame of mind. Yeah, and then there's something else

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened this week that I already bent your husband's

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<v Speaker 1>ear on, but I'm gonna I'm gonna bend yours on

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<v Speaker 1>it a little while. But but aj I know you

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<v Speaker 1>you share that. You know there are certain things, certain

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<v Speaker 1>words that just become They come out of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 1>and they get this word of mouth traction, they get

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<v Speaker 1>virality and become like people use the word fire now

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<v Speaker 1>to descry everything. That show we did yesterday it was fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what I meant? Wasn't that the first word cavemen used?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Actually, you're right. Fire was the first one show.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why, uh this happens, but we did

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<v Speaker 2>it too. We spoke the other day about when we

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<v Speaker 2>were kids, awesome was a huge word. I remember saying wicked.

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<v Speaker 2>Wicked was a big word for me anyhow, But awesome

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<v Speaker 2>is huge now. It's lit fire. The new the letters

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<v Speaker 2>one is dripped. You know, drip, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Drip.

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<v Speaker 2>Drip is when someone's got a nice outfit on. You said,

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<v Speaker 2>I like his drip. I like that really? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the guy by the way, you see how much

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<v Speaker 3>shame I feel today. That's I came on dress.

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<v Speaker 1>You got some hot, you got some hot drift working.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe it's not fire because I got ready for

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<v Speaker 3>vist minutes before the podcast. But I listened to my

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<v Speaker 3>producer very attentively, and he told me, like, you made

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<v Speaker 3>it joke, And you know, I understand very quickly. So

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<v Speaker 3>at least I made a move, okay, towards you fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you are firing. You are dripping all over the place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're dripping wet. We like your swag. That's another one too,

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<v Speaker 4>Your swag is your style. Oh instead of style, people

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<v Speaker 4>say steeze. I like his steeze. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 4>style ste same syllable, but they changed.

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<v Speaker 1>The word schipper than I. He's got a It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids around me. I'm buried. I read everything all day.

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<v Speaker 2>I read all day long. I just picked up stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the nonsense. But I remember, yeah, still steal

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<v Speaker 2>stee this big one.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, not what is really cool because it just

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<v Speaker 3>came to my mind. Fire. If you think from energy

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<v Speaker 3>point of view, you know, when people go for a date,

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<v Speaker 3>they use the candle. When you go to the church,

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<v Speaker 3>to use this thing to clean the space and so on,

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<v Speaker 3>and so fire symbolically, even like when you think about

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<v Speaker 3>what our ansectors they were jumping off the fire. It

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<v Speaker 3>has a lot of mission. It has a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>sense to use it because it's like cleaning the sand there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, the territory, your mind, your emotions, so

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<v Speaker 3>everything to balance the energies in the space. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that people pass fire to each other. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>energy life, you know, little clans. I think it's cool,

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<v Speaker 3>it's strange.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that, and that that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A goodest better than my theory. My theory is that

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<v Speaker 1>the caveman when he set fire, wasn't looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>sticks he was rubbed together. He was looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>hot cave woman in the short cable and dress that

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<v Speaker 1>was walking by. And that's when he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that could be a comic strip in the

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<v Speaker 2>New Yorker right now. Somebody should draw that. That would

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<v Speaker 2>be a fun cartoon. It makes a lot of sense. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, have you ever walked on fire? I

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<v Speaker 2>walked on coals? Did did you? I loved it?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a sorry for you. That's that's Kenny's favorite story.

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<v Speaker 3>So I did a lot of stuff with Stony Robins.

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<v Speaker 3>I followed him like, I don't know, I've been to Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was who he was in a Flintstones episode.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his character.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe me, I did meditation on nails. When you have

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<v Speaker 3>I want to have this is almost impossible, you feel

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<v Speaker 3>most tough decision in my life that I decided, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to live in pain anymore because your physical

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<v Speaker 3>pain on this level that you want to you take

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<v Speaker 3>a decision to live your life. From morality point of view,

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<v Speaker 3>no pain never ever in my entire life. It was

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<v Speaker 3>very functional. So I've done praise this stuff and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that the next time or episode whatever about

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<v Speaker 3>the calls about the walking on fire. So Tany Robbins

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<v Speaker 3>UPW sorry, and I did it in London. I did

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<v Speaker 3>it with my father. My father passed away, but he

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<v Speaker 3>used to be a tough Ukrainian guy, you know, who

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<v Speaker 3>power that helped this nation, you know, because it's small country,

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<v Speaker 3>but very strong people. So we went to that program

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a huge line of people like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many cellsand people and we had to

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<v Speaker 3>walk over the call. And when you look at this

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<v Speaker 3>and you come there and you understand, and you're so

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<v Speaker 3>freezing and it's night, it's twelve o'clock in the night,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're, oh my god, I'm not doing it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not doing it. And you touch the call so you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to think about it. You will never do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So my father took my bag, his back, all our shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>He was overloaded as a strong man. He goes there,

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<v Speaker 3>he crosses it and he said, isn't enough coom on,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't do it? And it's so many people behind

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<v Speaker 3>me and he said no, and I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I said no. He said, ay kidding me,

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<v Speaker 3>you're my daughter. You're gonna do it. So he cups

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<v Speaker 3>back through the coals in front of thousands people. He

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<v Speaker 3>stands on them, giving me a hand and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it, or what I told you? You are

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter. You're doing it, and guess what took me?

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<v Speaker 3>And he did? I said, I have no idea how

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<v Speaker 3>that man did it. He was a tough guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>That's so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>To walk on them and to stand on them. They're

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<v Speaker 3>two different things, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. I one day I want to do a

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<v Speaker 2>show about fathers because I'm a A lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>shows are about my My mother was an angel, but

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<v Speaker 2>my father has such an impact on me. But he

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<v Speaker 2>did something to me once along those lines where he

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Bronx Zoo. It's a very famous zoo

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<v Speaker 2>in New York. We all went there as kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was not six years old. He took me. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a tiger cage. Two tigers in there, big six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred five pound tigers, and you go back in the

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<v Speaker 2>old days, they were in a cage. You can get

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close to the cage. He said, stand there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was petrified, and that fucking tiger came and roared

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<v Speaker 2>so loud in my face, like a full away. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the loudest and most scary point you'll ever be

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<v Speaker 2>in your life. Don't want anything scare you ever again.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. If you went through that, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>through anything. I think fathers dud shit like that to

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<v Speaker 2>us to make sure we're grounded and strong and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>when they're gone, we'll be able to go further. It

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<v Speaker 2>sounds stupid, but he made He didn't make me. He

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<v Speaker 2>we walked on glass together, broken bottles, broken glass in

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<v Speaker 2>the backyard and he just broke some beer bottles in

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<v Speaker 2>the backyard and said, let's do this because you saw

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<v Speaker 2>it on TV and I did it, and it's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>I think father's uman mother's too. But my father had

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<v Speaker 2>a huge effect. I mean, I think, Mike, you your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I always wanted to ask you. I know we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>off subject here, but maybe for another show. I always

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<v Speaker 2>talk about my dad taught me, but I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what your dad taught you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to help. My dad taught me as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure I know.

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<v Speaker 1>My father was not a big you know son, come

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<v Speaker 1>over here and let me show you how to properly

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<v Speaker 1>hammer and nail or right. My father was mechanically useless,

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<v Speaker 1>like as bad as Kenny is. I mean, do I

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<v Speaker 1>mean barely screwing a light bulb? Right? So there was

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<v Speaker 1>it was none of that kind of stuff. My father

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<v Speaker 1>was more about morality. I mean that's that's that's the biggest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest. The lessons came from him telling me

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<v Speaker 1>about something that went on at work or something that

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<v Speaker 1>went on with an investment or something like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>but his were his were lessons in morality. There weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>My father wasn't a big guy. There wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, stories about toughness because.

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<v Speaker 2>But tough to us. He appeared tough to us.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a temper. Yeah, he had a temper, But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he wasn't. I mean I knew, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't tough because you know, we'd wrestle around and

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<v Speaker 1>by the time I was fifteen, Yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>could pretty well toss him around. So it wasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that kind of thing. He always had the mental Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>dad's always have that mental edge over you. Where Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was a better golfer than my father. I could

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<v Speaker 1>never beat him, really, I could never beat it because

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<v Speaker 1>he'd just get inside my freaking head. And and and

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<v Speaker 1>at any time he wanted, uh, he could just make

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<v Speaker 1>me miss a three foot putt just by just he

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<v Speaker 1>could just get in so he had those kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mental edges and and the morality stuff, but not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like practical lessons and not uh, toughen me

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<v Speaker 1>up kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think my father I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wish he would have no I think.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm saying is I think my father. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a product of him. I can tell because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like him. But I could feel that you are

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<v Speaker 2>just like your father too, even though you didn't feature

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<v Speaker 2>of being tough, you got through life fine. You do

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<v Speaker 2>have a moral an edge and morality. Then I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>do that's what I want?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, So there are people who are talking to people

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<v Speaker 3>who are doing. You are a doer and he was

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<v Speaker 3>a doer. And I think that's what you inherited, your

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<v Speaker 3>ability to do a lot of things during the day

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<v Speaker 3>and your ability to became very morally. And when I

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<v Speaker 3>speacked off, actually in case of my father, I used

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<v Speaker 3>it in a good condition, you know, like from strength's

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<v Speaker 3>point of view. And I do consider your father to

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<v Speaker 3>be stronger as well as far.

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<v Speaker 2>As I know, Yeah he was. But anyhow, it's another show.

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<v Speaker 2>But I liked what fathers bring to the table for

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<v Speaker 2>their sons. Mainly, and I'm going through with Rocco. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I am now my father the way he was to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I am to him. Never raised my voice to Never

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever obstruck him or anything, never had to get

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<v Speaker 2>angry at him. We talk in the car. It's very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>It's strange how life repeats itself like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and now you're getting to do yeah, basketball stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, the the conversation after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting on the game, that kind of those are those

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<v Speaker 1>are great conversations. I'm telling you before we got we

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<v Speaker 1>started the show, how much I miss with my son.

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<v Speaker 1>That was. That was a huge part of the last

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<v Speaker 1>well really since he was eight years old up until

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<v Speaker 1>last year was basketball was a huge part of our

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<v Speaker 1>lives together. So let's transition and let's talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>family and maybe a dad who didn't teach his sons

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<v Speaker 1>that many good things. The story of Menindez Brothers as

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. I don't know. I've seen things that say

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<v Speaker 1>it's the second most famous case of all time there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm sort of feeling like maybe it's gotten more

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<v Speaker 1>all time than OJ Now. I mean, it's just it

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<v Speaker 1>just never goes away and and it's the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>today's in the News with AJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Arena, I don't know how much you

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<v Speaker 2>know about these brothers, Beverly Hills Boys. Yeah, rich kids,

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills boys. They were eventually found guilty of killing

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<v Speaker 2>their parents, Jose and Kitty, back in eighty nine. Like

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<v Speaker 2>Mike said, this case outside of OJ probably is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest case most discussed in America. It's been going on

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<v Speaker 2>for years and it's still going on. The actual murders,

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<v Speaker 2>when you see the movies on Netflix or what have you,

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<v Speaker 2>are just awful. They killed their mother and father while

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<v Speaker 2>they're watching TV eating ice cream. I believe they had

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot the mother in the face. They blew her

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<v Speaker 2>head off, and they went back to the car to

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<v Speaker 2>reload the rifles to make sure she was dead. They

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<v Speaker 2>went and shot her again. It's so gruesome. But they

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that their father was sexually abusing them, and the

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<v Speaker 2>mother at times knew it and watched or saw the

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<v Speaker 2>first trial. First trial was mistrial, right, my first child was.

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<v Speaker 1>Mistrel Yeah, the first mistrust.

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<v Speaker 2>Second one they got they got what they get life? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they got they got life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they they no point in time. First of three

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<v Speaker 1>in Malifornia still could have gone for the death penalty,

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<v Speaker 1>so they prosecutors could have gone for the death penalty,

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<v Speaker 1>but they went for life without the possibility of parole.

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<v Speaker 2>And now there's a possibility that might be coming out

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<v Speaker 2>because this Netflix series has shed so much light on

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<v Speaker 2>these boys, and back in the early nineties, abuse wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as talked about as it is now. But it was

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<v Speaker 2>never a subject to talk about a father sexually abusing

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<v Speaker 2>the son or sons. That was unheard of and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even presented that way. But now with all this

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<v Speaker 2>new information coming out, they're going to actually take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at this again and see if these kids have kids,

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<v Speaker 2>they're grown ups now, if they've served enough time, because

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<v Speaker 2>now we have a deep understanding of how complex this

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<v Speaker 2>story was. So as a relationship and a spiritual person,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your opinion on this case, Like if the two

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<v Speaker 2>were being abused and had a reason to be generally

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<v Speaker 2>scared their father or their mother as well, and didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that anyone believed their story if they came forward,

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<v Speaker 2>can their actions should they get out, ever be possibly forgiven?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh for giveness? It's a very individual and tough question because.

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<v Speaker 2>You have we haven't talked about abuse like this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, yes, this is a definitely tough way to abuse,

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<v Speaker 3>to be abused, because you know, when you're abused by

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who is not a part of your family, you

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<v Speaker 3>can at least have a lot of hate to this

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<v Speaker 3>person and to be indifferent, to be hateful, to be

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive towards it. When we talk about mother and father,

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<v Speaker 3>who had to introduce you to life, to morality, to family,

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<v Speaker 3>to addition to what love is, what care is, that's

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<v Speaker 3>mother's job. And when you see that your mother is

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<v Speaker 3>actually indirectly is participating in that level of abuse because

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<v Speaker 3>they hurt you even more because mothers should protect you,

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<v Speaker 3>at least one parent should protect you, and she is

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<v Speaker 3>actually a part of this process. And I've been working

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<v Speaker 3>with so many cases when kids were not only kids,

423
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<v Speaker 3>but like child time, were abused and they hated the

424
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<v Speaker 3>other parent who wasn't the abuser, but who was a

425
00:23:34.759 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 3>watcher even more, or they hated, for example, when father

426
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:43.400
<v Speaker 3>was beating them and they disliked mother so much, and

427
00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 3>they left the house as soon as possible because they say,

428
00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:49.960
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't leave this idiot, he was abusive to you,

429
00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 3>he was abusive to us and you couldn't leave him.

430
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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes parents hate the other person who is watcher,

431
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<v Speaker 3>observer or not to I don't know, taking an action

432
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:07.839
<v Speaker 3>seeing this even more because they are unconsciously expecting defense

433
00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:11.880
<v Speaker 3>protection that mother in this case is not giving them.

434
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.079
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know about the forgiveness. I know about

435
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:19.359
<v Speaker 3>that sickness that their father definitely had, and probably mother

436
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.599
<v Speaker 3>was doing that or out of fear and being defendful,

437
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 3>or out of your sexual desire as well, because we

438
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<v Speaker 3>don't know what she was. You know, probably they started

439
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 3>somehow making those kids. We don't know. Maybe they were

440
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:35.440
<v Speaker 3>swingers by the time. We have no idea how they

441
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:37.880
<v Speaker 3>made those kids. Maybe they made them on the drugs

442
00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 3>and they liked all these you know, trendy things and

443
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 3>so on. So we don't know what's your sexual desire

444
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 3>or what it was, and did he get any pleasure

445
00:24:47.160 --> 00:24:50.720
<v Speaker 3>and satisfaction while watching it, or she was just indifferent

446
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:54.119
<v Speaker 3>to defend her kids because she was dependful, maybe from

447
00:24:54.160 --> 00:24:56.759
<v Speaker 3>money wise or any other because she was scared to

448
00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:01.519
<v Speaker 3>be filled herself. So they just their avenge. That's what

449
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.519
<v Speaker 3>they did. The problem is that you are always fifty

450
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.759
<v Speaker 3>percent your father and mother, and we are not gods

451
00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 3>to take out the life that wasn't given by us.

452
00:25:12.240 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 3>So our parents are giving us the life. This is

453
00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 3>that your soul was born and raised up in those circumstances.

454
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<v Speaker 3>It's a tough childhood for sure. So I'm not sure

455
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<v Speaker 3>about those two if they have any life partners, if

456
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:29.119
<v Speaker 3>they have any of their own kids or families, because

457
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:32.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they have few, have a lot of fears,

458
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 3>and have one of the one's sicknesses.

459
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of them has a one of them had

460
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<v Speaker 2>a girlfriend.

461
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<v Speaker 1>I think they're both married. Actually I think they're a

462
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<v Speaker 1>marriage because she's married in prison.

463
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:49.519
<v Speaker 2>But now they're separated, apparently because she said something. There's

464
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<v Speaker 2>on the paper the other day that there's they're split up,

465
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the rumors that they split. I don't know. I mean,

466
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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing about having women when you're locked up

467
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:57.519
<v Speaker 2>for life. It's just that.

468
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<v Speaker 1>It's a change. But know, I mean you you made

469
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<v Speaker 1>a point that I have never considered, but I think

470
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<v Speaker 1>it's a really important one because most people that have

471
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:15.400
<v Speaker 1>looked at this case over the years have taken the

472
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>position of the murdering of Kitty as proving that this

473
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>was really all about the money, because if they only

474
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.319
<v Speaker 1>killed their father, they wouldn't get the money. They had

475
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:33.359
<v Speaker 1>killed their mother as well. But the other side of

476
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 1>it is maybe they don't. Maybe they just yes Beverly

477
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills family. Maybe maybe they just saw their mother

478
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>as the only person who could possibly have stopped the

479
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>monster their father, and she didn't have the courage to

480
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<v Speaker 1>do it. And I mean that's a now maybe that

481
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe that has been played out and I just haven't

482
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>heard anybody say that.

483
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 3>But always hate the observer much more because if this

484
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:11.880
<v Speaker 3>guy is sick, Okay, we understand he's sick. What about

485
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>you your house?

486
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh you never heard that. I never heard that. That's interesting.

487
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So we always hate the observer because they had they

488
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 2>had a chance to stop it, put an end to.

489
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 3>It, absolutely stop it. But he was thinking about yourself.

490
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 3>So we have two options. We didn't know she was

491
00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:33.319
<v Speaker 3>sexually intrigued by that and inspired watching it, and she

492
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>was sick also, or she was just a person playing victim,

493
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 3>not ready to defend your own kids. So there are

494
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>two versions, and we will never find out that part

495
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 3>of it.

496
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I just think that the lady, she loved her life.

497
00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:50.119
<v Speaker 2>She loved the money, she loved the country club, et cetera.

498
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:53.079
<v Speaker 2>And after a certain amount of time, some women, some

499
00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 2>relationships just form into like we say, a partnership, a

500
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:01.000
<v Speaker 2>business partnership. This guy jose Man. Then there's apparently allegedly

501
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>sexually abused Ricky Martin. Matter of fact, a good buddy

502
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>of a friend of ours, Robert Rand wrote the book

503
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 2>on Menenda's brothers, and he, I mean, he gave us

504
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>the story years ago that the father sexually abused Ricky,

505
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and Ricky was on tape admitting it. Then his publicists said,

506
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't talk that way, don't. That's not it's off

507
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.039
<v Speaker 2>the record. So there was a bad guy, Jose So

508
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the mother knew this, but I think it's

509
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:31.079
<v Speaker 2>justified what they did. I hate to be that blunt,

510
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>but you can't put kids through that kind of His

511
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>father told him he may believe what he was having

512
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>sex with them, that this is what soldiers do. This

513
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>is how the Greek armies were so strong that the

514
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 2>father would send his son out, but first they would

515
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>have sex. And just crazy shit.

516
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:51.400
<v Speaker 3>These kids went through, you know what, because they still

517
00:28:51.480 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 3>killed the person. They still went against the gods, you

518
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 3>know because he gave the two people as well. And

519
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 3>actually they ruined them family tree because don't forget that

520
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.119
<v Speaker 3>we have to be very respectful to our and sectors.

521
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 3>No matter what. We don't judge them. We like them,

522
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.440
<v Speaker 3>we dislike them where they take them as they are,

523
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>because if not them, we would never have the gifts

524
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 3>of life. So what I have to tell you, they

525
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.319
<v Speaker 3>killed the structure of the family tree. They definitely went

526
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 3>against the gods. And if they want to really experience

527
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>the forgiveness, and I don't know those people. I don't

528
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 3>know if they're going to be in and out from prison,

529
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 3>but I think they should if they want to do

530
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 3>something beautiful for the planet, maybe create If they have

531
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>this financial opportunity at charity fund, that's their outcome from

532
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 3>their pain, you know.

533
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Actually doing some good things. They do some good things

534
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 2>in fact prisoners.

535
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, but exactly with the kids who are suffering

536
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>from the same trauma from victims of abuse. So already

537
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 3>it happened to your life. You can't change the past

538
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>already you kill the parents, you can change it all.

539
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:03.440
<v Speaker 3>So if God gives you another chance of liberty and freedom,

540
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>use it, but use it for good and heal yourself first,

541
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 3>because if you don't fulfilled with light, you can spread

542
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 3>it out.

543
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I think they will, and I think I want to

544
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.079
<v Speaker 2>just take the counterpoint. I don't think some family trees

545
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 2>keep growing. Some families should not be around anymore. Some

546
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:23.680
<v Speaker 2>people are just so evil I can't think about what

547
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 2>their great grandparents were.

548
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Like parts of God's plan. AJL is a part of evil.

549
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 3>As a part of God's plan, you know, I'll give

550
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 3>you a very stupid but simple example. You have smoked marijuana.

551
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:40.240
<v Speaker 3>You know what is like your part and so on?

552
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 3>So is it evil?

553
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

554
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 3>Does sometimes goods come to you when you're a little

555
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 3>bit like relaxed. And I'm not promoting Americana. I'm not smoking.

556
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:51.400
<v Speaker 3>I tried it in my life, but I'm not doing it,

557
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 3>and I consider it to be evil. But sometimes even

558
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:59.279
<v Speaker 3>evil ways like drugs or abuse or whatever can bring

559
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:03.839
<v Speaker 3>you to life if you're smart enough to catch yourself

560
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 3>in this condition, take yourself out and make conclusions about

561
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the life and proceed in a different way. So even

562
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 3>people who are lost, you have to give them a chance,

563
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:17.559
<v Speaker 3>as God does it. And I'm not speaking religiously, but

564
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 3>we George, they appeared there is a mission behind it.

565
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, Well, well we're going to see what happens,

566
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 2>and we should hear about it pretty soon. About these guys,

567
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>let's see what happens.

568
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Look, I think they did a horrific thing. They've also

569
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>been incarcerated for thirty something years for that thing, and

570
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>during the history of those thirty plus years of incarceration,

571
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:54.279
<v Speaker 1>they've been modeled inmates and done some positive work. And

572
00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think represent any kind of a threat.

573
00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so to society if.

574
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>They were released, Unlike you know, he didn't half the

575
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.759
<v Speaker 1>people that we that we end up releasing. But I'm

576
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 1>very torn on this one because it's a horrible thing.

577
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 1>But I think what you said, I mean really resonates

578
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 1>with me that I hadn't thought in that way about

579
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>in terms of, you know, their their mother being the

580
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>only person who could have stopped this. They wouldn't they

581
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have had to kill the two of them if

582
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 1>she would have had the courage to get away from him,

583
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>or go to the police, or any of the other

584
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.799
<v Speaker 1>things she could do before her young sons.

585
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just what a mother means to a child.

586
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>A mother was protecting your soul before you were even

587
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>out of the womb. She's she's the epitome of protection

588
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and love and security. And for her to abandon you

589
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.839
<v Speaker 2>in those moments, well, oh that's shattering. But yeah, I

590
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 2>never thought of it that way. It's interesting. The observer

591
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 2>is worse sometimes very true.

592
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll know some things in a couple of days. So,

593
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>as you may recall, was I was benched, suspended and

594
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>thrown out of the forever or for now segment last

595
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 1>week because all I kept doing for I think four

596
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.559
<v Speaker 1>weeks or five weeks going was bringing these couples up

597
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 1>who proved to actually have been meant for each other.

598
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And so toss the ball over to AJ this week,

599
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and you got a great little question here about a

600
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.839
<v Speaker 1>couple that ceased being a couple sixty one years and

601
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>some couple of days ago.

602
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a big one, because look, I hang around

603
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 2>in Florida with you guys, and when you're along with

604
00:33:56.119 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Arena and you give her some people's name, celebrities, what

605
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 2>have you, she'll talk right to the chase and tell

606
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.200
<v Speaker 2>you what she thinks. But so far in these these

607
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>forever are for nows, we've always been coming up with

608
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>people who are going to stay together forever. So I

609
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 2>thought maybe John Kennedy, the former president, and Jackie Onassis,

610
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>even though they're done, I want to know about that

611
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>as a couple.

612
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 3>So you remember my statement, Yeah, it's not forever for now.

613
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>We never know. You can fall in love tomorrow. And

614
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 3>I always say that people are staying together until their karma.

615
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Task together is not over until you need to work

616
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 3>out something for yourself. And they're definitely blessed or arranged unions,

617
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:43.800
<v Speaker 3>but they are still meant to be because they work

618
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.920
<v Speaker 3>out very well. So I was very intrigued by this couple. Actually,

619
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.360
<v Speaker 3>you know that I was very curious about Millennia and Trump,

620
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.400
<v Speaker 3>and this is the second couple that impressed me very much.

621
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.199
<v Speaker 3>They are all good couples, they are all like make

622
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.320
<v Speaker 3>it together, but this is something different, and they really

623
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 3>stayed until the last day of his life. So I

624
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.239
<v Speaker 3>did it today in a different way, and I think

625
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.199
<v Speaker 3>it's going to work out much better for us, and

626
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.719
<v Speaker 3>probably I will continue this way. A few worries about

627
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 3>thirty fifth President of the United States, who is John Kennedy.

628
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:22.800
<v Speaker 3>So he was a fast person who could do a

629
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 3>few things together at the same time he had number

630
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 3>twelve in conflict. That means that he could be dependful

631
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 3>on medication. Actually he had addison disease, he had Slang's disorder,

632
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.960
<v Speaker 3>and he could be dependful on anything. What is drugs,

633
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 3>tablets or put you in something that you're an illusional

634
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>step state of mind. He definitely, it's for sure, used

635
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 3>amphetamine for his back pain, and steroids and so on

636
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 3>and so on. I'm not saying he was a drug addict,

637
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 3>but he was using a lot of medications that put

638
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 3>him in this illusional state of mind. As I told

639
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 3>you before his life plus number eighty seven. That speaks

640
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:05.360
<v Speaker 3>about him as a truth seeker, deep thinker, and strong

641
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 3>intellectual activity he has and very good intuition. I think

642
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.000
<v Speaker 3>it's true he's Gemini and his Venus in Gemini. That

643
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 3>speaks about his two marriages. At least I don't know

644
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.840
<v Speaker 3>he had official two marriages. I just actually I didn't

645
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 3>double check it, to be honest. We can maybe you

646
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 3>know better. But he definitely was a womanizer and he

647
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.559
<v Speaker 3>loved women. That this is a worst case in an

648
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 3>area when Venus in Gemini could work out very destructive

649
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>for you. His TuS, his mercury, that has planet of

650
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 3>communication is in Taurus. That speaks about him as a

651
00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:47.400
<v Speaker 3>very successful materialistic person, and he was a rich and

652
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>famous guy. And his karma task is in Capricorn, and

653
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 3>he was a very career oriented, that's for sure. He

654
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 3>has a very interesting aspect of Mars planet of activity

655
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 3>square Ornius that gives him such a I don't know,

656
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 3>like a shade of very revolutional person, very impulsive person

657
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.519
<v Speaker 3>who loves extreme, who likes to be on the edge,

658
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>who likes to you know, don't know what's going to

659
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 3>happen next second, and the risk of some unexpected events

660
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 3>including death. That was unbelievable that I did astrology, but

661
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 3>the numerology and that so if he wouldn't be killed

662
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>in a car accident like the way he was in car,

663
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 3>but I mean like he would be killed or through

664
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 3>electricity or war or avia or car accident. So because yes,

665
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:46.159
<v Speaker 3>his Mars square Rangy speaks about that. That's not often

666
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 3>I see these aspects while working with people and doing

667
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 3>the avershat reading as well. This aspect creates a trouble

668
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.880
<v Speaker 3>and makes the person to be a provocator who knows

669
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 3>how to make people on fire, you know, with one word.

670
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Before. What did you back up a little bit? What

671
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>did you say got you to this point? You mentioned

672
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a theory or something about Kennedy. What did you say

673
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.679
<v Speaker 2>that because of him such and such? What are you

674
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 2>looking at?

675
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Not just killed? He was killed in this case, it's protestined.

676
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying about you. Where do we speak? Mars is

677
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 3>a planet of uh its musculine planet already is. It's

678
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 3>a big planet of unexpected events in your life. When

679
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:39.599
<v Speaker 3>they create an astrology stress aspect, it means that something

680
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.880
<v Speaker 3>very destructive, unexpected will happen to you. It could be more,

681
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 3>it will be It can be aba, I don't know,

682
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 3>disaster like a plane fell down. It could be car accident,

683
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 3>it could be pistol, it could be electricity, unexpected deaths.

684
00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what happened to him.

685
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>He was destined astrologically to die young.

686
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.440
<v Speaker 2>And he almost died with the pt one online the boat.

687
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>The whole mishappened in the war. Okay, good, I'm not.

688
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 3>God speaking about the date of death, but he's astrological.

689
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.320
<v Speaker 3>If he did his astrologym, I'm sure if he didn't,

690
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 3>he would pay a lot of attention. Stay away from tablets,

691
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 3>stay away from drugs, be very accurate with women, and

692
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 3>definitely not use any guns, and don't put himself on

693
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:32.480
<v Speaker 3>fire and uncomfortable, unexpected situations. And he did everything opposite

694
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:33.679
<v Speaker 3>everything else I did.

695
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, he had something. He had

696
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>an illness. I love this illness. It's called satiriasis. Satiriasis

697
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>is an abnormally intense sexual desire. Other men have exact.

698
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Boris Johnson in the UK has it, apparently. I'm not

699
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 2>sure how you get diagnosed this, but Kennedy definitely had that.

700
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.119
<v Speaker 2>So he was with women constantly. He loved women.

701
00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 1>So does the doctor write you prescription that says you

702
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>can fuck whoever you want? Is that what happens?

703
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to look into it. It's not a bad

704
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:06.000
<v Speaker 2>disease to.

705
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Have no talk about a prescription. I mean, honey, look

706
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I had nothing to do with this. I

707
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 1>went to the doctor Thursday to give me this prescription.

708
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Look what it says, take three women once every twenty

709
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>four hours. Look that's right there.

710
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my dear, you have to wait until you're reading.

711
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.119
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you about her. She has a very poor destiny.

712
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, wow, So let me here. So Kennedy

713
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:32.159
<v Speaker 2>is predestined. I like this go ahead.

714
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>So as well, Mar's in conjunction with mercury gives him

715
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:42.639
<v Speaker 3>impulsive decisions, problems with nervous system and lengths. I even

716
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:49.760
<v Speaker 3>looked at his health wise. Very yes, this addison, this

717
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 3>is that he had yeah, very sentimental, very sentimental, very sensitive,

718
00:40:56.119 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 3>loves luxury, loves beauty and would be uncounted or stupid

719
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.440
<v Speaker 3>sex connections and as well, problems with skidness. And I

720
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 3>think because he used a lot of tablets and so on,

721
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he had it. So when we speak about her, guys,

722
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 3>she is first of all, she is a love bringer.

723
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 3>She's like her whole thing that she is a partnership

724
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 3>oriented person. Twenty one speaks about your worldwide non traveler

725
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:32.400
<v Speaker 3>could be fast as well, and he has thirteen in conflicts.

726
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 3>Thirteen its death. So that's a life changing point or

727
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 3>it should be a big trial that it's difficult to overcome.

728
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 3>That puts your life, cuts it off before and after.

729
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 3>That's what happened to her in direct sense. The thirteen

730
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.159
<v Speaker 3>life past number is eleven. That master number speaks about

731
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:58.800
<v Speaker 3>very high level of intuition, spirituality, insights, inspiration, grace ability

732
00:41:58.840 --> 00:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>to connect with people, and that's what happened. People loved her,

733
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, and the way she was she was extremely

734
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 3>educated's very classy woman. Your son is in Leo. She

735
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.559
<v Speaker 3>did a lot of contribution to arts, historical architecture, her elegance.

736
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows she is a fascion icon. Your moon is

737
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.119
<v Speaker 3>an area she can be on fire. Also, she could

738
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 3>be very emotional. I'm not sure that everybody knows this

739
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.440
<v Speaker 3>side of her, but still and Hu Mercury is in Leo.

740
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Leo.

741
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 3>That speaks about your being on the stage, being in

742
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 3>center of attention. And she was a book editor. That's

743
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 3>how she made her career, right, Yeah, so she was

744
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 3>a smart woman. Your karma task is in Toros money

745
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and you remember that he has it too, so his mercury.

746
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.679
<v Speaker 3>It's when you speak about compatibility chart. His mercury. This

747
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 3>money making professional related to Taurus and she has as

748
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 3>a karma task. So her karma task was to embrace

749
00:42:56.599 --> 00:43:00.159
<v Speaker 3>as much material things as possible. But it happened to

750
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 3>her through trial and a lot of disappointment.

751
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 5>And also we speak about your she has venus in

752
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 5>a position is a very distrusting aspect with Saturn with

753
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.440
<v Speaker 5>a planet of limitations that brings you disappointment in love

754
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.199
<v Speaker 5>forever and complex based on that trauma, based on that.

755
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Partner or older or marriage for money.

756
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

757
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 3>That was you know, the problems with problems with having kids.

758
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.519
<v Speaker 3>She had her own two kids, but she didn't have

759
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.159
<v Speaker 3>any kids with him, and influence or from her parents.

760
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about this. Yeah, I don't know this

761
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 3>part of your life, to be honest. So yeah, others,

762
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:54.840
<v Speaker 3>she's a personal real power. She knows how to take decision,

763
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 3>could be fluent in taking and delivering the information, could

764
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.400
<v Speaker 3>be overthinking and I'm sure or her destiny could give

765
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>her a lot of points to think about. You know,

766
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 3>your marks in square with another time with Sutur, which

767
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.000
<v Speaker 3>is not easy, can give her a lot of hidden

768
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 3>anger and if irritated. These kind of people, they can

769
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 3>do anything and professional risks, accidents, problems with bone, interest

770
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 3>or joints. So when we look at them together, they

771
00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 3>have these you know, they have interest in their life.

772
00:44:31.880 --> 00:44:36.119
<v Speaker 3>Past number together is three. That actually gives them opportunity

773
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 3>just to exchange resources what they have and their marriage

774
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.960
<v Speaker 3>should be simple, which was not nice. You know, their

775
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:48.679
<v Speaker 3>common task is seventeen to become famous, and she did.

776
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 2>They did, and she.

777
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 3>Did, and they did together because she was a person

778
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 3>of grace and he was a person of politics.

779
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, before you before you go forward. So basically,

780
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:03.960
<v Speaker 2>just the let people understand this. You could have known

781
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 2>this about her and him. Let's just let me just

782
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.679
<v Speaker 2>break this down if someone would, if somebody were to

783
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 2>give you their birthdays and their numbers. Let's say when

784
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 2>they were children, you would have gotten the same thing.

785
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>You would have said, the same thing you said, Now,

786
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.280
<v Speaker 2>how do you not become president? And she not become Jacqueline?

787
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:26.840
<v Speaker 2>One asks those two people, based on numerology, would have

788
00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:28.960
<v Speaker 2>turned out to be just as they turned out to be.

789
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Let's say you don't give me the names. Let's say

790
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.159
<v Speaker 3>you give me two numbers of two people. I would

791
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 3>still see and I say, this couple can be financially successful,

792
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 3>the couple can have kids, this couple can become famous together,

793
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.679
<v Speaker 3>this couple can change the place of presidents. Because I

794
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 3>see the aspects astrologically or no metrologically, but I wouldn't

795
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 3>say you can become famous singer, famous politician, or famous killer,

796
00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 3>but you can correct.

797
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's that's interesting. I don't think people understand that

798
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>because I have friends of mine say give me their

799
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 2>birthday and saying, ask yourna, you know what about me?

800
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>How am I shaping up? And I'm like, I'm not

801
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>going to bother you with that. But I don't think

802
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people understand.

803
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 3>We're very open to take questions from people.

804
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well.

805
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:18.639
<v Speaker 3>They want astrology or whatever they want.

806
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll get you some people. But this is

807
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:24.440
<v Speaker 2>my cousin, and she asked the question. But here's what

808
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>bugs me about. Tell me if this bothers you're a rena,

809
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 2>you're a woman. You love your husband to death. Okay,

810
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 2>obviously they had a marriage that I'm sure she knew

811
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 2>he had affairs, typical political, Hollywood type marriage. When he

812
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 2>got shot. I don't know how many times you've seen

813
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>the film of him being shot, but the image of

814
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 2>him being shot and then her climbing out of the

815
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 2>back of the car, crawling out of the back of

816
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the car to get out of the car, that always

817
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:56.679
<v Speaker 2>bugged me, because if my wife just got shot in

818
00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the head, I would hold her and protect her. I

819
00:47:01.840 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't try to get out of the car. That always

820
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 2>pissed me, and some people say, well, she knew what

821
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:08.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of manny was. Maybe she was she had it

822
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.519
<v Speaker 2>with him. I said, no, you shouldn't want to. You

823
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.360
<v Speaker 2>should want to protect your loved one. You don't want

824
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 2>to crawl away.

825
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, so I don't know if I mean she her

826
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>first move is actually not it was a convertible, and

827
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>so she's yeah, she's actually putting her arms around and

828
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 1>grabbing pieces of his brain.

829
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 2>I heard that that side too, I heard that angle.

830
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can you can see that through the

831
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Bruder film and and running it. Uh, you know, they've

832
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.280
<v Speaker 1>now gotten that. That film has been remastered a bunch

833
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>of times and now it's actually i mean still not Yeah,

834
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:49.119
<v Speaker 1>it's great today's quality. It's great, but you can and

835
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it's also helped the the modernization of that that short

836
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:00.559
<v Speaker 1>movie home movie by this Guy's a Bruder has really

837
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>changed a lot of opinions about what actually happened in

838
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:08.119
<v Speaker 1>the assassination because the the whole theory of him being

839
00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>shot from the front and into the neck and him

840
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 1>going to his neck with his hands has really been

841
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>blown up. And it's it's that his his first move

842
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.079
<v Speaker 1>is to clench his fist like this because he's been

843
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>shot back, and it's a reflex to to a shot

844
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>into the spine that was actually a misfire. The bullet

845
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>did not go through is But anyway, there's a lot

846
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 1>of of stuff around this. But but I think the

847
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 1>Secret Service got to her as she was grabbing everything.

848
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 2>It was Rosie Greer, the old football player, Rosie Greed

849
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.159
<v Speaker 2>got to work. I know. I just said that it

850
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.400
<v Speaker 2>was a weird moment for me that I didn't think

851
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:53.880
<v Speaker 2>my mother would do, or Arena would do, or Jerry

852
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Ann would do. I don't know, but maybe you're right.

853
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she was collecting bits and pieces of him and

854
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.440
<v Speaker 2>she was obviously shocked. Hard to tell how we'd all react.

855
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when he was shocked, you never know how you

856
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 3>would be heaved.

857
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

858
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, and if he was diagnosed with what's it called.

859
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Again, oh, satiriasis, satirizes it.

860
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I really need to do a teleconference for my

861
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:20.800
<v Speaker 1>doctor this afternoon and see what we can do. But

862
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but but if if she knew that, I mean there's

863
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe they talked about all this stuff and who knows

864
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 1>what what what she understood and and didn't understand, I

865
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know what.

866
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.039
<v Speaker 2>And she also was put up with Malon Monroe. I

867
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:40.880
<v Speaker 2>mean her singing happy Happy birthday, mister president in that

868
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:44.840
<v Speaker 2>very sexual manner. Jackie O, you know, had a man

869
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 2>on her hands that was out to get a lot

870
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of women, and he was very successful at it. So

871
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:50.639
<v Speaker 2>who knows what they what she felt at the end,

872
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>but interesting stuff got Arena.

873
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know it's more about you know, you can

874
00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 3>leave a short life with a genius, so you can

875
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:03.679
<v Speaker 3>leave a lot of long life being protected. And you know,

876
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 3>so she knew what she's doing. She knew was what

877
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 3>kind of man she is. And the funniest thing that

878
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I can speak like a lot about numbers, but the

879
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.360
<v Speaker 3>most interesting thing that the abase of their couple was fame, money,

880
00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:21.400
<v Speaker 3>glory and everything and they were shining, you know, even

881
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 3>like it was different ways, but anyway, and their base

882
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 3>of their happiness was family. They have number twenty.

883
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:29.239
<v Speaker 2>This is sure.

884
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you can say you can George, you can

885
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 3>know what he was and she put up with that

886
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.639
<v Speaker 3>and she knew it was kind of your job to

887
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:40.719
<v Speaker 3>understand him very well because he was a special man,

888
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:44.559
<v Speaker 3>let's call it this way. And yeah, like both brothers,

889
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.480
<v Speaker 3>they weren't eily. You know.

890
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you what she did. What do you

891
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.320
<v Speaker 2>want to say about her? She raised two great children.

892
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean her son, her son and daughter. You can't

893
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.280
<v Speaker 2>say that about her son. John Kennedy Junior was everything

894
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and more and Caroline as well, successful, good, good children.

895
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 2>So she did it on her own for the most part.

896
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:09.800
<v Speaker 2>So I give a lot of credit for that, because

897
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>those kids could have been disasters. Seeing your father get

898
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 2>shot and killed like that, and all the rumors and

899
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 2>stories over the years about him, and when I used

900
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to hang around with his son, you wouldn't think that

901
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.360
<v Speaker 2>this kid came from a family with that kind of

902
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 2>tragedy around it, not at all. So did a good job.

903
00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.199
<v Speaker 3>You know what's the most interesting that when we speak

904
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:35.039
<v Speaker 3>about like past life and we speak about signature personalities,

905
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 3>and it could be Queen's, it could be I don't

906
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 3>know any give you any other singer who was crazy

907
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 3>but tellings or you know Marilyn Monroe who died very young,

908
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and she was and she had her producing company and

909
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 3>she was a talented woman, but she started from being

910
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:57.519
<v Speaker 3>very poor actor and you know, just his sexuality and everything,

911
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:00.480
<v Speaker 3>but there was brain behind it. Even people think they

912
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.320
<v Speaker 3>she didn't have it. So everybody, or Michael Jackson with

913
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.800
<v Speaker 3>all his operations, or Madonna with all her craziness. I

914
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.559
<v Speaker 3>don't know. These people did a lot. You can like them,

915
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 3>dislike them, but you will remember them. So I remembered

916
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 3>historically like good people, you know, like for some reason,

917
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 3>like so he was a good guy, okay, and they

918
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>don't remember you. Okay.

919
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I really very impressed with your culture, knowledge about your bringing.

920
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Bring some of that, because you're you're not getting it

921
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.199
<v Speaker 1>on Fox News from your husband or not on a

922
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.039
<v Speaker 1>daily basis.

923
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 2>I will end.

924
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 3>Up working there, I think. So that's how you look

925
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 3>at me like that. I will be nice to him,

926
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:48.000
<v Speaker 3>and he will look at me like this. I'll be everywhere.

927
00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I'll be great.

928
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So what I'm just gonna say a phrase and

929
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and tell me give me your thoughts on this arena.

930
00:52:58.639 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Everything happens for a reason.

931
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I Are.

932
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 1>You totally agree every everything happens for a reason? Right?

933
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think so.

934
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:17.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've really come to I mean, look, I uh,

935
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm only with my wife because a guy that was

936
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 1>my partner in business and worked with for the first

937
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 1>ten years of my professional life died in my arms

938
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>at a very young age and in the aftermath of that,

939
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that that brought Jerry Ann and I together. And were

940
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.559
<v Speaker 1>it not for this guy, Glenn Uh dying very young,

941
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 1>there's no way we would be together. And there's all

942
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things like that that that happened. And and

943
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>so I have something that happened this week started on

944
00:53:56.599 --> 00:54:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Sunday that I'm uh, well, I want to I want

945
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to play out with you guys and get your advice.

946
00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>So so there's a guy who when UH when I

947
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:11.760
<v Speaker 1>was at Vanderbilt, UH was a year younger than me,

948
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:14.119
<v Speaker 1>and it was two years younger than me and came

949
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.559
<v Speaker 1>to UH school and so I was very active in

950
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:20.559
<v Speaker 1>my fraternity. So he's somebody that I rushed to come

951
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>into the fraternity and I got I got very close

952
00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to this guy, and we got into a lot of

953
00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 1>trouble together, and he eventually got booted out of school

954
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>because he was just nothing but trouble. And and over

955
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:41.679
<v Speaker 1>the years, I've sort of lost contact with him from

956
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the standpoint of, you know, we weren't calling each other

957
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:49.599
<v Speaker 1>or directly, you know, maybe a text once a year

958
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:53.039
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, but I would pay attention to his posts.

959
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>He would pay attention to my posts, and I knew

960
00:54:55.840 --> 00:55:00.800
<v Speaker 1>that he was really just all over planet Earth. I

961
00:55:00.880 --> 00:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>knew he was in a bunch of African countries. I

962
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>knew he was all over Southeast Asia. He and this

963
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:10.199
<v Speaker 1>was him. He was always just on adventures, doing these

964
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 1>these crazy things. And one of the things that bonded

965
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 1>us together was he refused to let me get arrested alone.

966
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:22.119
<v Speaker 1>One night and his I got I got pulled over.

967
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.519
<v Speaker 1>He was in the car with me. We had left

968
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:29.400
<v Speaker 1>this restaurant with a group of guys, and I raced

969
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:32.320
<v Speaker 1>down this road against this this other guy that was

970
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 1>with us in his car, And by the time I

971
00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:36.039
<v Speaker 1>got to the bottom of the road, the siren was

972
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>going off behind me, and I was panicked. I had

973
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 1>like sixty dollars in my checking account. There was no

974
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>way I was going to call my parents and ask

975
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:45.880
<v Speaker 1>him to bail me out. And I'm I'm about as

976
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>down as you could be. And the next thing I know,

977
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>he's in the back of the police car with me

978
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:56.320
<v Speaker 1>and and his name is Arnie, and I'm like, Arnie,

979
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 1>what the hell are you doing?

980
00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Why are you.

981
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Why are you back up? Because dah though, don't worry

982
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 1>about it. Joke's on them. He goes well and he

983
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>opens his his jacket and he had stolen the cops windbreaker.

984
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:15.119
<v Speaker 1>The cop had a police wind breaker. He's somehow, in

985
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the midst of whatever he went through with the cop

986
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.639
<v Speaker 1>managed to steal the cops windbreaker off the front seat

987
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of the passenger side seat of the police car. And

988
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Arnie, the CoP's gonna want his jacket back.

989
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Just what are you doing? Give give the jacket back anyway,

990
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the cop is going crazy looking for his jacket before

991
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>we can get out of there. I gotta be careful

992
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.280
<v Speaker 1>not to let this turn into a forty five minute story.

993
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Arnie is is so out of control and so funny

994
00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that by the time we get down to the police station,

995
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, he's made the cop pull over

996
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:53.639
<v Speaker 1>three times, faking that he's going to throw up in

997
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the guy's car. He's calling him Gary. He's calling the

998
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>cop Gary by calling him by his first name. When

999
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 1>they first bring us to the jail, he looks at

1000
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the cop and tells him that he like clean sheets

1001
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and a wake up call at seven, and he's doing

1002
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.480
<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff and cop finally thinks were funny.

1003
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 1>We actually because there were other frat house guys that

1004
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>were with us, they'd all come to watch us get

1005
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:23.519
<v Speaker 1>arrained and line TheRoom the courtroom. They were sitting in

1006
00:57:23.559 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the on the benches when we come out, and you know,

1007
00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm still like, oh my god, I'm in so much

1008
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 1>trouble with the helm I'm going to do. And the

1009
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.280
<v Speaker 1>judge says, misster, you know you've been charged with driving

1010
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a vehicle onto the bubble. Would you understand these charges? Yes,

1011
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>your honor, mister I won't say his last name, but Arnie, uh,

1012
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:45.559
<v Speaker 1>you've been charged with public drunkenness. Do you understand? I understand,

1013
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>but I have one objection, Your honor puts his arm

1014
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:51.679
<v Speaker 1>around the cop until Gary here pulled me out of

1015
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Mike's car. I was privately drunk. Always guys start cracking,

1016
00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean the whole He was so funny, and the

1017
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 1>cop loved him so much that the cop became a

1018
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.639
<v Speaker 1>semi regular showing up at the frat house for Friday afternoon.

1019
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:12.239
<v Speaker 1>Kegs didn't show up for my quick I got off.

1020
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I never got in any trouble for anything, And it

1021
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was all because of Arnie's sort of larger than life.

1022
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.079
<v Speaker 1>This is who he is, and he and there's some

1023
00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 1>things about him that remind me of k and him.

1024
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:30.400
<v Speaker 1>There's also some Chico in him with I'd say Arnie

1025
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:37.800
<v Speaker 1>is Chico, but with a stronger moral structure. So I knew.

1026
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I knew Arnie was from the Palm Beach area because

1027
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>we came down. I mean, you know where guys are from.

1028
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But I thought he was in Taiwan, or he was

1029
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:53.239
<v Speaker 1>in Cambodia, or I didn't think he was here. And

1030
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:59.440
<v Speaker 1>so he posts something on Sunday and I send him

1031
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 1>back a message on Facebook though, saying you won't believe this.

1032
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 1>We've moved to Jupiter. And then I get a response

1033
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.039
<v Speaker 1>from him. I go, are you kidding? I'm in Jupiter.

1034
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm living here with my dad who's eighty six and

1035
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:22.159
<v Speaker 1>not doing well. Blah blah blah blah. So anyway, I

1036
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>get together with him within twelve hours of finding out

1037
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 1>he's here, and I find out this crazy story about

1038
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:41.159
<v Speaker 1>him and African gold coming from Zambia. And I won't

1039
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.480
<v Speaker 1>get to the details of it other than there's an

1040
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:51.360
<v Speaker 1>opportunity he's put on the table, which is an opportunity

1041
00:59:52.800 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>years yafter not talking to each other directly in forty

1042
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:09.679
<v Speaker 1>years he's put something on the table that is, you know,

1043
01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:15.119
<v Speaker 1>a huge return, a huge drain to return if if

1044
01:00:15.159 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to put some money in play. And I'm like,

1045
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very disciplined person. I go through my financial advisor.

1046
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't turn around in twenty four or forty eight

1047
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 1>hours and you know, and do something. But his situation

1048
01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>is one that requires somebody to do something. Doesn't have

1049
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to be me, but somebody has to do something in

1050
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:53.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty four or forty eight hours, or he's in a

1051
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:59.719
<v Speaker 1>very Chico like situation. His would be more he owes

1052
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the people money than something else. And and so I'm

1053
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:10.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting here and I'm going, Okay, I mean, did all

1054
01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>this happen because I'm supposed to help Arnie right now

1055
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:21.880
<v Speaker 1>after all this time, or and the mean, while I

1056
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 1>have other people in my ear being No, Mike, you

1057
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.320
<v Speaker 1>need to be more disciplined than that. You can't just

1058
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:33.360
<v Speaker 1>do something like that because you think it's like spiritually

1059
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 1>meant to.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't agree.

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01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean you think so, Mike, what is interesting you

1062
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 3>started from the saying that everything happens for a reason,

1063
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:47.280
<v Speaker 3>and tell you definitely yes, the difference makes that not

1064
01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:50.679
<v Speaker 3>always be understand at the same moment. Why so it

1065
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 3>will take some time to understand why it happened for

1066
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 3>a reason. So when you tell me and I found

1067
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 3>your speaking to my husband about the same subject that

1068
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:03.079
<v Speaker 3>you brought up on the podcast right now, about investing

1069
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.440
<v Speaker 3>in that project, about trusting the guy and so on,

1070
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:09.880
<v Speaker 3>what makes us different? Men they're using while taking decision

1071
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.559
<v Speaker 3>they had. So you started to dig into that, dive

1072
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:16.360
<v Speaker 3>into the subject studied and come to the conclusion women,

1073
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:21.199
<v Speaker 3>we had taken our intuitive decision. So we spoke about

1074
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.840
<v Speaker 3>it briefly yesterday and I told you immediately, no, not

1075
01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:28.280
<v Speaker 3>because I want to take responsibility of your life. I'm

1076
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 3>not sure it's a correct moment to do it astrologically wise.

1077
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Now it's retrograd mercury. And Kenny knows how seriously I

1078
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.360
<v Speaker 3>had taken it, because we have. When he was buying

1079
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the house where we live right now, the first signature

1080
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:47.039
<v Speaker 3>that he put it was while retrogred mercury. And I

1081
01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:49.159
<v Speaker 3>can't say that I was against it, but I was

1082
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.199
<v Speaker 3>very anxious and nervous about it, and I asked him

1083
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:56.599
<v Speaker 3>please at least the closing date, make it afterwards when

1084
01:02:56.639 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 3>retromercury is over and if listeners know what at is,

1085
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 3>it's not a good period of time to start anything new,

1086
01:03:03.480 --> 01:03:07.599
<v Speaker 3>to move in to start new businesses, starts up. I

1087
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.159
<v Speaker 3>don't know anything. What is paperwork, agreements and so on.

1088
01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:16.480
<v Speaker 3>So you brought up yesterday at the very first day

1089
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 3>of retrograd Mercury, about the offer of the person you

1090
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.079
<v Speaker 3>haven't seen for forty years. Does it make sense that

1091
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.360
<v Speaker 3>this person re entered your life. Yes, because while retro Mercury,

1092
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:33.559
<v Speaker 3>all people or events or lessons from past life are

1093
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:37.719
<v Speaker 3>coming back for us to be embraced again to understand

1094
01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 3>how you would treat the person or how would you

1095
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:45.760
<v Speaker 3>fix the situation. When we are speaking about starting a

1096
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:50.519
<v Speaker 3>new beginning, whatever it is, business or financial, I wouldn't

1097
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:54.519
<v Speaker 3>consider it a good period of time to take any

1098
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:59.320
<v Speaker 3>new decision until December fifteenth, if you ask me from

1099
01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.400
<v Speaker 3>spirit all points of view, because I break it up

1100
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 3>in three I'm not God. I'm not taking any responsibility

1101
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:11.880
<v Speaker 3>of anybody's life. But you said, maybe it's my lesson

1102
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 3>about helping Arnie. Maybe it's my lesson about being disciplined.

1103
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:21.000
<v Speaker 3>You are smart, you are disciplined, you are helping people.

1104
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's your lesson about to know how to say no.

1105
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.239
<v Speaker 3>How does that resonate with you? Because I know you

1106
01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 3>said a lot of yeses for the last periods of

1107
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 3>time and during the life. What about this? How does

1108
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:36.360
<v Speaker 3>your soul react right now?

1109
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:45.280
<v Speaker 1>God, that's good? So yeah, that not bad? That could be?

1110
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:51.639
<v Speaker 1>That could be The reason is I'm I'm reintroduced to

1111
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:56.320
<v Speaker 1>his life and I see things that are concerning. I've

1112
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:59.519
<v Speaker 1>found out some things that are pretty tragic. I had

1113
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:04.400
<v Speaker 1>no idea idea that he got when he got married.

1114
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 1>He his wife died at a very young age from

1115
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:10.239
<v Speaker 1>uh an overdose.

1116
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:12.119
<v Speaker 2>You find how did you find this out?

1117
01:05:12.400 --> 01:05:19.079
<v Speaker 1>He told me? And uh uh and and so uh

1118
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing him as a sixty year old man

1119
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:26.920
<v Speaker 1>living like a sort of a nomad the way he

1120
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 1>lived when he was twenty Yeah, and uh.

1121
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:30.880
<v Speaker 2>And so.

1122
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm supposed to help him by not doing this

1123
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that that resonated. Look, because no one, not Kenny, not you,

1124
01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 1>not my wife, no one that I have brought this

1125
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:51.119
<v Speaker 1>up to thus far. You're the only ones have has

1126
01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 1>thought for a second that yeah, I should I should

1127
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:56.079
<v Speaker 1>do this.

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01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.840
<v Speaker 3>No, you know, I'm not sure it's help you were

1129
01:06:00.159 --> 01:06:04.159
<v Speaker 3>this way, but it's more about you know the other

1130
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:06.840
<v Speaker 3>thing that you just mentioned, he lost a wife because

1131
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.559
<v Speaker 3>she was overdosed. It's another sign for you to realize

1132
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 3>how blessed you are with new things, beautiful things that

1133
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 3>are happening to you because your heart is finally released

1134
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.320
<v Speaker 3>from pain about the kids. You know, so you have

1135
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 3>to understand that it's your healing lesson as well. And

1136
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:25.719
<v Speaker 3>it's great that you met this guy. And it doesn't

1137
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 3>mean if you refuse, if you take a decision to refuse,

1138
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 3>that you're not going to be loved, appreciated or respected

1139
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 3>or still being friends as you are.

1140
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1141
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I know that in the other way you can

1142
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 3>support him and it would be helped.

1143
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 1>That's good. That's good. That's very good advice.

1144
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yep, yeah, I don't like. I mean, when I

1145
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:53.360
<v Speaker 2>had money to give out loan and shit, I had

1146
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 2>learned a couple of lessons and I was at the

1147
01:06:55.320 --> 01:06:58.480
<v Speaker 2>time living with the producer Robert Evans and Beverly Hills,

1148
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he had his high times producing The

1149
01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Godfather and all these terrific movies. And he told me

1150
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:08.400
<v Speaker 2>money is like books. You know, you're not gonna get

1151
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 2>it back if you give a book away. Typically the

1152
01:07:11.119 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 2>person keeps the book. Same thing with money, and eventually

1153
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 2>that person ends up not wanting to see you even

1154
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 2>though you help them because they know they're going to

1155
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.760
<v Speaker 2>pay you back, and they feel funny because they can't

1156
01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:27.039
<v Speaker 2>pay you back. So you basically root a friendship. So well,

1157
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I had money to give, I used to follow that

1158
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 2>rule he is, to even say whatever they want to

1159
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:32.920
<v Speaker 2>give him half, but don't give him anything ever again

1160
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:35.920
<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna it's just that you're gonna keep coming.

1161
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:39.840
<v Speaker 2>But in your case, you're too much of a pragmatic

1162
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:42.639
<v Speaker 2>person to be rushed into a to be rushed into

1163
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 2>an investment like that. That's not the way your your head.

1164
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Works normally, normally.

1165
01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:51.519
<v Speaker 2>What's that?

1166
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.159
<v Speaker 3>Maybe think how you can help otherwise, if you want

1167
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:56.920
<v Speaker 3>to help from your heart, it is a great feeling.

1168
01:07:57.039 --> 01:07:59.280
<v Speaker 3>I love to help people, but maybe you can do

1169
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:00.440
<v Speaker 3>them some the way.

1170
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:02.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a great feeling when you do. Yeah,

1171
01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:04.559
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good idea. There's something else you

1172
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:07.599
<v Speaker 2>could do it for, impossibly, maybe you know.

1173
01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know what The same exact thing happened last week.

1174
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:14.800
<v Speaker 1>We get to the fourth segment. Yeah, and there's so

1175
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:19.359
<v Speaker 1>much going on in the fourth segment, that gets emotional

1176
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:24.399
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not ready ready for the fifth segment. Yeah,

1177
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it was tough, right and unless you can take the

1178
01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:28.680
<v Speaker 1>ball and run with it.

1179
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 2>AJ we we were talking about, you know, working with

1180
01:08:33.319 --> 01:08:37.279
<v Speaker 2>family members who have suffered trauma, and that has been

1181
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:40.520
<v Speaker 2>going around in heavy doses for a while for some

1182
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:44.439
<v Speaker 2>of us. But the subject of the question would be,

1183
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.000
<v Speaker 2>as a parent, sibling, a relative, a friend, how do

1184
01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:53.640
<v Speaker 2>you best support someone who's been through trauma? Part of

1185
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:55.640
<v Speaker 2>this is about Arnie, but there's other traum. I mean,

1186
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.279
<v Speaker 2>we we've all suffered trauma in our lives from people

1187
01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:00.399
<v Speaker 2>we love, et cetera, et cetera, and now as we

1188
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:02.760
<v Speaker 2>get older, it happens more often. So I think we

1189
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.159
<v Speaker 2>need to know exactly what the best way is of

1190
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:08.000
<v Speaker 2>dealing with this, supporting someone who's been through some trauma.

1191
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:09.880
<v Speaker 2>What do you say, Arena?

1192
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:13.319
<v Speaker 3>I would say that's the best way to support somebody

1193
01:09:13.319 --> 01:09:15.800
<v Speaker 3>you love who is suffering through trauma or going through

1194
01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:19.439
<v Speaker 3>it is to create this safety atmosphere where you can

1195
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:25.439
<v Speaker 3>be yourself, be totally transparent and relieved. And transparency is

1196
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:30.039
<v Speaker 3>a big key of this atmosphere because you feel naked,

1197
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 3>like you're feeling sonar, you know like everybody seasier as

1198
01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.199
<v Speaker 3>you are, so the saying we are naked in front

1199
01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:41.520
<v Speaker 3>of God, we are what we are. So create trustful,

1200
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:46.199
<v Speaker 3>create transparent, Create safe atmosphere for the person who is

1201
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.560
<v Speaker 3>in pain right now. Create the feeling that they can

1202
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:54.439
<v Speaker 3>be accepted as they are, no matter what they did.

1203
01:09:55.479 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Loved fully, loved, understood. What does it mean? Listen carefully,

1204
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:07.800
<v Speaker 3>be patient sometimes when needed. Respect every word because in

1205
01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:11.720
<v Speaker 3>case of trauma, warden is very important, especially when your

1206
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.760
<v Speaker 3>native speak or not like me. So your vocabulary and

1207
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:20.279
<v Speaker 3>you pose this while speaking mean a lot, you know

1208
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:27.119
<v Speaker 3>and probably you know, go into details. Question the person,

1209
01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.640
<v Speaker 3>make this person feel important, I don't know whatever they say,

1210
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 3>this story, Ask what did you feel? So how this

1211
01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:37.039
<v Speaker 3>girl was dressed? You know, speak about their details. They

1212
01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:40.720
<v Speaker 3>will understand. They are so much into their story and

1213
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:41.239
<v Speaker 3>they're very.

1214
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Unstan that they can engage with them. Yeah.

1215
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and maybe if necessary, share as well your story,

1216
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:50.000
<v Speaker 3>because you guys, your full of stories. You had the guy.

1217
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.880
<v Speaker 3>For example, if somebody is suffering from drug addiction, you

1218
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.239
<v Speaker 3>can say, you know that I lost a friend. You

1219
01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 3>know that I realize how much it means to me,

1220
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:04.079
<v Speaker 3>and you know, so share the story, participate in dialect,

1221
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.760
<v Speaker 3>be transparent, provide full acceptance. And I think this is

1222
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:13.720
<v Speaker 3>a great advice, not just for trauma healing, but as

1223
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:16.159
<v Speaker 3>well before thanksga, you.

1224
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Know, oh that's great. You know what that's good for

1225
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the for the holiday especially. I did a show the

1226
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:25.000
<v Speaker 2>other day and I found it ridiculous that two of

1227
01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.800
<v Speaker 2>these actresses in the movie Wicked, it's supposed to be

1228
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:33.039
<v Speaker 2>a big smash movie, Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, and

1229
01:11:33.079 --> 01:11:36.880
<v Speaker 2>this this journalist said to them that a lot of women,

1230
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of gays love this movie and they're holding

1231
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.239
<v Speaker 2>space with it. And I never heard that expression holding space.

1232
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.319
<v Speaker 2>And Arriva was like, oh my god, I can't believe it.

1233
01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was happening. And are ground is

1234
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 2>touching your face? It was a very weird moment. I

1235
01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.760
<v Speaker 2>had to look up with holding space meant apparently, it's

1236
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying to stay engaged with someone, to make

1237
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.960
<v Speaker 2>someone feel safe, to know that whatever they tell you

1238
01:12:02.039 --> 01:12:05.560
<v Speaker 2>is fine, You're not going to be judged. You're holding space.

1239
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.680
<v Speaker 2>I never heard this expression talking about fie.

1240
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:14.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, yeah, that's safety.

1241
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:17.359
<v Speaker 2>But we started off by saying these new words fire

1242
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:20.960
<v Speaker 2>lit slack and now we've got holding space, which I

1243
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.920
<v Speaker 2>never heard but apparently like a few years ago, was

1244
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 2>it top of mind? Never heard that expression about something

1245
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.479
<v Speaker 2>being on your on your mind. Oh that's not really

1246
01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:32.880
<v Speaker 2>top of mind for me today. What so there's new

1247
01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:36.239
<v Speaker 2>things being born, but it is, it is. It is

1248
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 2>a very special shell because uh, there's so much going

1249
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:42.439
<v Speaker 2>on with the holidays this holiday season with respect to

1250
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:46.119
<v Speaker 2>the election that's still in people's heads and homes. And

1251
01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:50.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, as we get older, my Thanksgiving is very

1252
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:51.800
<v Speaker 2>different than it used to be. Now it's just me

1253
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<v Speaker 2>and the kids. Well I'll cook for them here, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a sad time for me. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a you know, my lost my mom on

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Day all that bloga. But as you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>you lose people, and I think the holidays become sader.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it becomes sadder that you're with

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<v Speaker 2>so many people.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you remember the feeling of mother, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>write with scandal light anxio spirits to be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that when holidays come a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>tend to not be so cheerful because it marks the

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<v Speaker 2>time in their life. But it's so different now. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not sad, it's a good point, but it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>emptier than it used to be when so many people

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<v Speaker 2>are gone. You know, the holidays are tough for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people. So hopefully this season, UH will know

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<v Speaker 2>how to deal with people's trauma, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big I'll just say a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things because I don't want to get too personal with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the UH, I have a family member that UH

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<v Speaker 1>has gone through significant trauma and has gone through a

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<v Speaker 1>few months of treatment that will for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>be back with us all and I'm very and for

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<v Speaker 1>for a few days, we've we've we've been with them

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<v Speaker 1>since ANDERD treatment, but for periods of a couple of hours,

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<v Speaker 1>not for days, and UH, and they haven't been around, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>any other people other than people going through treatment or

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<v Speaker 1>these short visits with us. And so I'm I'm nervous

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<v Speaker 1>about the entire experience that's going to go on the

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<v Speaker 1>next few days. And and because I'm I'm so scared

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe this didn't isn't going to work. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're currently with someone as a roommate where they

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<v Speaker 1>are and that person's it's their seventh time through this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you hear things like that people that have been

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<v Speaker 1>through it three times or five times or seven times,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that scares me on all kinds of of levels.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm just not feeling real confident or sure

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<v Speaker 1>of myself in terms of how what what what situated,

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<v Speaker 1>how much this person should have thrown at them, what

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<v Speaker 1>environment they should or shouldn't be in. Should I be

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<v Speaker 1>careful or should I be My instinct is to be

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<v Speaker 1>more aggressive and challenging with them, and you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to move them along. But uh, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that my wife feels the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's well, first of all, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the fact that this person is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be with family. You have to understand that's what this

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<v Speaker 2>person is thinking of more than anything. He's looking so

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<v Speaker 2>forward to this to be with everybody. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>you just take one moment at a time, one hour

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<v Speaker 2>at a time. As try as that sounds, You've done

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<v Speaker 2>everything as a human being who loves somebody can do

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<v Speaker 2>to help that person. Have trusted that you did it great,

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<v Speaker 2>you did it perfectly, and now you're going to find

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<v Speaker 2>out where we go from here, but I think you've

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<v Speaker 2>handled it magnificently, you and your wife to begin with,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think you should be down on yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with doubt yourself at all. You've done all the right

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<v Speaker 2>moves since since this thing began. That's how I feel most.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally agreed, totally agreed. You did an incredible, incredible job.

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<v Speaker 3>You did what every parent should do, and you did.

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<v Speaker 3>You even overdid it, so I would tell you because

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<v Speaker 3>not everybody is blessed with your financial unities to provide

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<v Speaker 3>the care you did, so you overdid it in all

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<v Speaker 3>possible and impossible senses. The thing is, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>give up control because there is only one disappointment that

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<v Speaker 3>you can meet through life. You're not God, you understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, don't forget that you don't don't forget that you're

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<v Speaker 2>that you're about being tough. I mean, tough love is important.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you did everything right, but tough love is

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<v Speaker 2>essential as well. I wouldn't put that away either.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Mike, you know where I am. If you needed,

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<v Speaker 3>I know where you're all. There are things I want

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<v Speaker 3>to tell, but I'm still very personal with you. You

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<v Speaker 3>know how much I respect you and your family. So

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<v Speaker 3>there are things that as much as I love our audience,

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<v Speaker 3>I can shout out for Yah course.

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<v Speaker 1>Well look everything for a reason and Thanksgiving and h

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I may need uh my handheld a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on. Yeah okay, but but hey, Happy Thanksgiving to

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<v Speaker 1>all of you out there. Thank you for supporting what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing. And uh please share, like, subscribe, do all

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<v Speaker 1>that happy podcast stuff and we'll we will be back

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<v Speaker 1>at you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Thanksgiving, everybody,