Speaker 1: Hey, hey, everybody, welcome back to Relationships as a Bitch.
Speaker 1: Mike Agavino here with as always my lifelong pal aj
Speaker 1: Benza and our relationship guru and the woman behind the
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Speaker 2: I got the app. I'm more patient with my more
Speaker 2: patient with myself, and more understanding of some of the
Speaker 2: choices I make. I'm not as much as a mystery
Speaker 2: as I used to be to myself.
Speaker 3: What that gentimental about yourself?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sure, what's happening with me and Irene I I'm guess
Speaker 1: I'm going to break it to you here on the air.
Speaker 1: The app has fallen in love with me. There's there's like,
Speaker 1: I know you're working on all this I know you're
Speaker 1: working on all this AI stuff, but I think what
Speaker 1: was the movie where, uh where the machine? Just it
Speaker 1: was like the first AI gets a mind of its
Speaker 1: own and falls in love.
Speaker 2: Ex Machina Was it ex Machina the robot chick?
Speaker 1: No, I remember that. I can't think of the name
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: I recognize a car in Italian. It's interesting name for
Speaker 3: a movie.
Speaker 1: Well, the girl was a cybernetic cyborg whatever. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: a hot one as robots go.
Speaker 2: She was. She was hot x mocking you mean yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'll always say that, and a j will just come
Speaker 1: out with the name Alicia.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, it's sick. It's a sickness. I know everybody.
Speaker 3: It's like Baseball fat himself, you know, is it all?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I just always always had a knack for stars, movies, dates, times, names.
Speaker 1: I don't know, no, And I can't get him. I ren.
Speaker 1: I always like, I think I've gotten into a show
Speaker 1: before he will have discovered it. So I'll send him
Speaker 1: something about like I sent him something about Landman after
Speaker 1: the first episode, and I mean he was already on it.
Speaker 1: He already knew who the young girl was, and that
Speaker 1: what's the actress that plays the ex wife, the one
Speaker 1: who put whipped cream on her in Varsity twenty years ago?
Speaker 1: And she looks as good as she looked with the
Speaker 1: whip cream in Varsity Blues.
Speaker 2: But it does.
Speaker 1: Man, But what a what a what a scene it
Speaker 1: is in the third Have you seen the third episode yet?
Speaker 2: I'm halfway through, but I haven't finished it.
Speaker 1: Okay, have you gotten to the scene where he brings
Speaker 1: the young lawyer with him out.
Speaker 2: To the No, I can't wait this thing's all over
Speaker 2: x Oh.
Speaker 1: Okay, because because it's it's at the same time it's
Speaker 1: a lesson about alternative you know, fuel, zero emission stuff,
Speaker 1: clean energy. Except Billy Bob Thornton is so unbelievable in
Speaker 1: that scene. I mean, it's just it's just crazy. What
Speaker 1: you have to Yeah, you go watch the finish it
Speaker 1: tonight and you will.
Speaker 2: He's such a He's a really great guy too. Hung
Speaker 2: out with him years ago. Very nice guy, open, honest,
Speaker 2: just very different than a lot of Hollywood people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's about he seems pretty on Hollywood.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you it's a trivia real quick. Then
Speaker 2: we'll go on the subject. His first job was working
Speaker 2: on the highway waving a flag, and Bill Clinton got
Speaker 2: him that job in Arkansas, That's where Billy Bob's from. Real. Yeah.
Speaker 2: His first job was waving a flag at the construction site,
Speaker 2: and he said, uhill Clinton, whatever position to Clinton had
Speaker 2: back then, he knew Billy Bob got on that gig
Speaker 2: so heavily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which means which means, you know, Billy Bob's got
Speaker 1: some got some dirt on Bill that he's promised to
Speaker 1: take the grave with him.
Speaker 2: I show yeah, which.
Speaker 1: After watching Clinton on that interview the other day, it
Speaker 1: doesn't appear that that moment is too far down the road.
Speaker 1: I mean, he looked absolutely off.
Speaker 2: I know it's he didn't. He doesn't look good that
Speaker 2: that the presidency ages men for sure, but he really
Speaker 2: looks terrible. Uh, you know, we're sick as secrets, so
Speaker 2: maybe that's what he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: Could be or as we age as fast as living
Speaker 1: with our wife makes us age, could be could be
Speaker 1: either of those two things in his case. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: the reason I'm pretty sure that the app has fallen
Speaker 1: in love with me and I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do or how to manage.
Speaker 3: It is it's how did you find that out?
Speaker 1: Because of my daily affirmations. I mean, it just it
Speaker 1: it speaks to me. Yes, it's just it absolutely speaks
Speaker 1: to me. And this morning it told me that I
Speaker 1: should be grateful for my resilience. And the app couldn't
Speaker 1: possibly know that that word right, not the word resilience,
Speaker 1: but what people have substituted for the word resilience, which
Speaker 1: is this ridiculous word resiliency that now every coach, every
Speaker 1: player in every sport on the planet uses that term,
Speaker 1: that word resiliency when yeah, I guess it's a word,
Speaker 1: but it's it's the correct is resilience, And that word
Speaker 1: seems to have disappeared from the lexicon for athletes. And
Speaker 1: so how did the app know that that word drives
Speaker 1: me crazy?
Speaker 3: Okay, let me tell you. Do you know what is synergy? Yes,
Speaker 3: when two people are working together, when two businesses merge,
Speaker 3: it's the same thing happening with the space. Let's say,
Speaker 3: when you have something inside you, whatever it is, it's illusion, fear, dream.
Speaker 3: When you dream about having a kid, you see all
Speaker 3: pregnant women around. When you dream about the fancy car,
Speaker 3: you see this car is raising all over the place,
Speaker 3: in the biggest streets of your place.
Speaker 2: You leave.
Speaker 3: So the same thing here. If it triggers you, it
Speaker 3: means it's a part of you. So let me ask
Speaker 3: you a direct question, small therapy. What is resilience for
Speaker 3: you personally? If you reacted that way?
Speaker 1: What does the word mean to me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to you, not to everybody, not vocabulary wise,
Speaker 3: but to you when it slience.
Speaker 1: Being strong in the face of adversity, no matter what.
Speaker 3: So is it a part of your life, especially right
Speaker 3: now when you like change the place of living, change
Speaker 3: feminine circumstances for better. But it took a lot of
Speaker 3: effort from you. So is it something that resonates with
Speaker 3: your soul state right now?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: So that's why you reacted that way, because let's say
Speaker 3: if I picked up that information court and I probably
Speaker 3: would pick up something else because you have always this
Speaker 3: fortune talent that's a little one, like as a joke,
Speaker 3: but still it resonates with you. And this machine starts,
Speaker 3: not machine starts to feel you. The universe starts to
Speaker 3: feel you and give to the machine, you know, like
Speaker 3: somehow in a magic way, something to pick up because
Speaker 3: at the right moment it work out for you exactly
Speaker 3: at this day, at this state of mind. But it's good.
Speaker 1: I want to talk more about that because I'm in
Speaker 1: I mean very much of a Everything happens for a
Speaker 1: reason frame of mind. Yeah, and then there's something else
Speaker 1: that's happened this week that I already bent your husband's
Speaker 1: ear on, but I'm gonna I'm gonna bend yours on
Speaker 1: it a little while. But but aj I know you
Speaker 1: you share that. You know there are certain things, certain
Speaker 1: words that just become They come out of nowhere and
Speaker 1: and they get this word of mouth traction, they get
Speaker 1: virality and become like people use the word fire now
Speaker 1: to descry everything. That show we did yesterday it was fire.
Speaker 1: Oh what I meant? Wasn't that the first word cavemen used?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually, you're right. Fire was the first one show.
Speaker 2: I don't know why, uh this happens, but we did
Speaker 2: it too. We spoke the other day about when we
Speaker 2: were kids, awesome was a huge word. I remember saying wicked.
Speaker 2: Wicked was a big word for me anyhow, But awesome
Speaker 2: is huge now. It's lit fire. The new the letters
Speaker 2: one is dripped. You know, drip, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Drip.
Speaker 2: Drip is when someone's got a nice outfit on. You said,
Speaker 2: I like his drip. I like that really? Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the guy by the way, you see how much
Speaker 3: shame I feel today. That's I came on dress.
Speaker 1: You got some hot, you got some hot drift working.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's not fire because I got ready for
Speaker 3: vist minutes before the podcast. But I listened to my
Speaker 3: producer very attentively, and he told me, like, you made
Speaker 3: it joke, And you know, I understand very quickly. So
Speaker 3: at least I made a move, okay, towards you fire.
Speaker 4: Maybe you are firing. You are dripping all over the place. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're dripping wet. We like your swag. That's another one too,
Speaker 4: Your swag is your style. Oh instead of style, people
Speaker 4: say steeze. I like his steeze. I don't know why
Speaker 4: style ste same syllable, but they changed.
Speaker 1: The word schipper than I. He's got a It is.
Speaker 2: Kids around me. I'm buried. I read everything all day.
Speaker 2: I read all day long. I just picked up stuff,
Speaker 2: some of the nonsense. But I remember, yeah, still steal
Speaker 2: stee this big one.
Speaker 3: You know, not what is really cool because it just
Speaker 3: came to my mind. Fire. If you think from energy
Speaker 3: point of view, you know, when people go for a date,
Speaker 3: they use the candle. When you go to the church,
Speaker 3: to use this thing to clean the space and so on,
Speaker 3: and so fire symbolically, even like when you think about
Speaker 3: what our ansectors they were jumping off the fire. It
Speaker 3: has a lot of mission. It has a lot of
Speaker 3: sense to use it because it's like cleaning the sand there.
Speaker 3: I don't know, the territory, your mind, your emotions, so
Speaker 3: everything to balance the energies in the space. So I
Speaker 3: think that people pass fire to each other. It's like
Speaker 3: energy life, you know, little clans. I think it's cool,
Speaker 3: it's strange.
Speaker 2: I like that, and that that's.
Speaker 1: A goodest better than my theory. My theory is that
Speaker 1: the caveman when he set fire, wasn't looking at the
Speaker 1: sticks he was rubbed together. He was looking at the
Speaker 1: hot cave woman in the short cable and dress that
Speaker 1: was walking by. And that's when he.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that could be a comic strip in the
Speaker 2: New Yorker right now. Somebody should draw that. That would
Speaker 2: be a fun cartoon. It makes a lot of sense. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, have you ever walked on fire? I
Speaker 2: walked on coals? Did did you? I loved it?
Speaker 3: I have a sorry for you. That's that's Kenny's favorite story.
Speaker 3: So I did a lot of stuff with Stony Robins.
Speaker 3: I followed him like, I don't know, I've been to Miami.
Speaker 3: I've been to.
Speaker 1: I think that was who he was in a Flintstones episode.
Speaker 1: That was his character.
Speaker 3: Believe me, I did meditation on nails. When you have
Speaker 3: to stand on nails for like one hour or when
Speaker 3: I want to have this is almost impossible, you feel
Speaker 3: a sale like Jesus. And that was my tough the
Speaker 3: most tough decision in my life that I decided, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to live in pain anymore because your physical
Speaker 3: pain on this level that you want to you take
Speaker 3: a decision to live your life. From morality point of view,
Speaker 3: no pain never ever in my entire life. It was
Speaker 3: very functional. So I've done praise this stuff and we'll
Speaker 3: talk about that the next time or episode whatever about
Speaker 3: the calls about the walking on fire. So Tany Robbins
Speaker 3: has a special program under the name upb W a
Speaker 3: UPW sorry, and I did it in London. I did
Speaker 3: it with my father. My father passed away, but he
Speaker 3: used to be a tough Ukrainian guy, you know, who
Speaker 3: has a lot of character and you know how my
Speaker 3: nation is fighting right now and it's it's only will
Speaker 3: power that helped this nation, you know, because it's small country,
Speaker 3: but very strong people. So we went to that program
Speaker 3: and it was a huge line of people like I
Speaker 3: don't know how many cellsand people and we had to
Speaker 3: walk over the call. And when you look at this
Speaker 3: and you come there and you understand, and you're so
Speaker 3: freezing and it's night, it's twelve o'clock in the night,
Speaker 3: and you're, oh my god, I'm not doing it. I'm
Speaker 3: not doing it. And you touch the call so you
Speaker 3: don't have to think about it. You will never do it.
Speaker 3: So my father took my bag, his back, all our shoes.
Speaker 3: He was overloaded as a strong man. He goes there,
Speaker 3: he crosses it and he said, isn't enough coom on,
Speaker 3: you didn't do it? And it's so many people behind
Speaker 3: me and he said no, and I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: twenty something. I'm not a kid, you know. And I
Speaker 3: was like, I said no. He said, ay kidding me,
Speaker 3: you're my daughter. You're gonna do it. So he cups
Speaker 3: back through the coals in front of thousands people. He
Speaker 3: stands on them, giving me a hand and said, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm doing it, or what I told you? You are
Speaker 3: my daughter. You're doing it, and guess what took me?
Speaker 3: And he did? I said, I have no idea how
Speaker 3: that man did it. He was a tough guy. He
Speaker 3: knew how to.
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
Speaker 3: To walk on them and to stand on them. They're
Speaker 3: two different things, guys.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. I one day I want to do a
Speaker 2: show about fathers because I'm a A lot of my
Speaker 2: shows are about my My mother was an angel, but
Speaker 2: my father has such an impact on me. But he
Speaker 2: did something to me once along those lines where he
Speaker 2: went to the Bronx Zoo. It's a very famous zoo
Speaker 2: in New York. We all went there as kids, and
Speaker 2: I was not six years old. He took me. It
Speaker 2: was a tiger cage. Two tigers in there, big six
Speaker 2: hundred five pound tigers, and you go back in the
Speaker 2: old days, they were in a cage. You can get
Speaker 2: pretty close to the cage. He said, stand there, and
Speaker 2: I was petrified, and that fucking tiger came and roared
Speaker 2: so loud in my face, like a full away. He said,
Speaker 2: that's the loudest and most scary point you'll ever be
Speaker 2: in your life. Don't want anything scare you ever again.
Speaker 2: That's it. If you went through that, you can go
Speaker 2: through anything. I think fathers dud shit like that to
Speaker 2: us to make sure we're grounded and strong and maybe
Speaker 2: when they're gone, we'll be able to go further. It
Speaker 2: sounds stupid, but he made He didn't make me. He
Speaker 2: we walked on glass together, broken bottles, broken glass in
Speaker 2: the backyard and he just broke some beer bottles in
Speaker 2: the backyard and said, let's do this because you saw
Speaker 2: it on TV and I did it, and it's wild.
Speaker 2: I think father's uman mother's too. But my father had
Speaker 2: a huge effect. I mean, I think, Mike, you your dad.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to ask you. I know we're getting
Speaker 2: off subject here, but maybe for another show. I always
Speaker 2: talk about my dad taught me, but I want to
Speaker 2: know what your dad taught you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to help. My dad taught me as well.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I know.
Speaker 1: My father was not a big you know son, come
Speaker 1: over here and let me show you how to properly
Speaker 1: hammer and nail or right. My father was mechanically useless,
Speaker 1: like as bad as Kenny is. I mean, do I
Speaker 1: mean barely screwing a light bulb? Right? So there was
Speaker 1: it was none of that kind of stuff. My father
Speaker 1: was more about morality. I mean that's that's that's the biggest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest. The lessons came from him telling me
Speaker 1: about something that went on at work or something that
Speaker 1: went on with an investment or something like that. But
Speaker 1: but his were his were lessons in morality. There weren't.
Speaker 1: My father wasn't a big guy. There wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, stories about toughness because.
Speaker 2: But tough to us. He appeared tough to us.
Speaker 1: He had a temper. Yeah, he had a temper, But no,
Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't. I mean I knew, I knew
Speaker 1: he wasn't tough because you know, we'd wrestle around and
Speaker 1: by the time I was fifteen, Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: could pretty well toss him around. So it wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't that kind of thing. He always had the mental Yeah,
Speaker 1: dad's always have that mental edge over you. Where Like
Speaker 1: I was a better golfer than my father. I could
Speaker 1: never beat him, really, I could never beat it because
Speaker 1: he'd just get inside my freaking head. And and and
Speaker 1: at any time he wanted, uh, he could just make
Speaker 1: me miss a three foot putt just by just he
Speaker 1: could just get in so he had those kind of
Speaker 1: mental edges and and the morality stuff, but not a
Speaker 1: lot of like practical lessons and not uh, toughen me
Speaker 1: up kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I think my father I.
Speaker 1: Wish he would have no I think.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is I think my father. Obviously
Speaker 2: I'm a product of him. I can tell because I'm
Speaker 2: just like him. But I could feel that you are
Speaker 2: just like your father too, even though you didn't feature
Speaker 2: of being tough, you got through life fine. You do
Speaker 2: have a moral an edge and morality. Then I'm I
Speaker 2: do that's what I want?
Speaker 3: Did you say?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So there are people who are talking to people
Speaker 3: who are doing. You are a doer and he was
Speaker 3: a doer. And I think that's what you inherited, your
Speaker 3: ability to do a lot of things during the day
Speaker 3: and your ability to became very morally. And when I
Speaker 3: speacked off, actually in case of my father, I used
Speaker 3: it in a good condition, you know, like from strength's
Speaker 3: point of view. And I do consider your father to
Speaker 3: be stronger as well as far.
Speaker 2: As I know, Yeah he was. But anyhow, it's another show.
Speaker 2: But I liked what fathers bring to the table for
Speaker 2: their sons. Mainly, and I'm going through with Rocco. Now
Speaker 2: I am now my father the way he was to me,
Speaker 2: I am to him. Never raised my voice to Never
Speaker 2: I've ever obstruck him or anything, never had to get
Speaker 2: angry at him. We talk in the car. It's very similar.
Speaker 2: It's strange how life repeats itself like that.
Speaker 1: Well, and now you're getting to do yeah, basketball stuff,
Speaker 1: which is you know, the the conversation after the game,
Speaker 1: reflecting on the game, that kind of those are those
Speaker 1: are great conversations. I'm telling you before we got we
Speaker 1: started the show, how much I miss with my son.
Speaker 1: That was. That was a huge part of the last
Speaker 1: well really since he was eight years old up until
Speaker 1: last year was basketball was a huge part of our
Speaker 1: lives together. So let's transition and let's talk about a
Speaker 1: family and maybe a dad who didn't teach his sons
Speaker 1: that many good things. The story of Menindez Brothers as
Speaker 1: it's amazing. I don't know. I've seen things that say
Speaker 1: it's the second most famous case of all time there,
Speaker 1: but I'm sort of feeling like maybe it's gotten more
Speaker 1: all time than OJ Now. I mean, it's just it
Speaker 1: just never goes away and and it's the subject of
Speaker 1: today's in the News with AJ.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Arena, I don't know how much you
Speaker 2: know about these brothers, Beverly Hills Boys. Yeah, rich kids,
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills boys. They were eventually found guilty of killing
Speaker 2: their parents, Jose and Kitty, back in eighty nine. Like
Speaker 2: Mike said, this case outside of OJ probably is the
Speaker 2: biggest case most discussed in America. It's been going on
Speaker 2: for years and it's still going on. The actual murders,
Speaker 2: when you see the movies on Netflix or what have you,
Speaker 2: are just awful. They killed their mother and father while
Speaker 2: they're watching TV eating ice cream. I believe they had
Speaker 2: to shoot the mother in the face. They blew her
Speaker 2: head off, and they went back to the car to
Speaker 2: reload the rifles to make sure she was dead. They
Speaker 2: went and shot her again. It's so gruesome. But they
Speaker 2: claimed that their father was sexually abusing them, and the
Speaker 2: mother at times knew it and watched or saw the
Speaker 2: first trial. First trial was mistrial, right, my first child was.
Speaker 1: Mistrel Yeah, the first mistrust.
Speaker 2: Second one they got they got what they get life? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they got they got life.
Speaker 1: Well, they they no point in time. First of three
Speaker 1: in Malifornia still could have gone for the death penalty,
Speaker 1: so they prosecutors could have gone for the death penalty,
Speaker 1: but they went for life without the possibility of parole.
Speaker 2: And now there's a possibility that might be coming out
Speaker 2: because this Netflix series has shed so much light on
Speaker 2: these boys, and back in the early nineties, abuse wasn't
Speaker 2: as talked about as it is now. But it was
Speaker 2: never a subject to talk about a father sexually abusing
Speaker 2: the son or sons. That was unheard of and it
Speaker 2: wasn't even presented that way. But now with all this
Speaker 2: new information coming out, they're going to actually take a
Speaker 2: look at this again and see if these kids have kids,
Speaker 2: they're grown ups now, if they've served enough time, because
Speaker 2: now we have a deep understanding of how complex this
Speaker 2: story was. So as a relationship and a spiritual person,
Speaker 2: what's your opinion on this case, Like if the two
Speaker 2: were being abused and had a reason to be generally
Speaker 2: scared their father or their mother as well, and didn't
Speaker 2: believe that anyone believed their story if they came forward,
Speaker 2: can their actions should they get out, ever be possibly forgiven?
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 3: Uh for giveness? It's a very individual and tough question because.
Speaker 2: You have we haven't talked about abuse like this.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, this is a definitely tough way to abuse,
Speaker 3: to be abused, because you know, when you're abused by
Speaker 3: somebody who is not a part of your family, you
Speaker 3: can at least have a lot of hate to this
Speaker 3: person and to be indifferent, to be hateful, to be
Speaker 3: aggressive towards it. When we talk about mother and father,
Speaker 3: who had to introduce you to life, to morality, to family,
Speaker 3: to addition to what love is, what care is, that's
Speaker 3: mother's job. And when you see that your mother is
Speaker 3: actually indirectly is participating in that level of abuse because
Speaker 3: they hurt you even more because mothers should protect you,
Speaker 3: at least one parent should protect you, and she is
Speaker 3: actually a part of this process. And I've been working
Speaker 3: with so many cases when kids were not only kids,
Speaker 3: but like child time, were abused and they hated the
Speaker 3: other parent who wasn't the abuser, but who was a
Speaker 3: watcher even more, or they hated, for example, when father
Speaker 3: was beating them and they disliked mother so much, and
Speaker 3: they left the house as soon as possible because they say,
Speaker 3: you couldn't leave this idiot, he was abusive to you,
Speaker 3: he was abusive to us and you couldn't leave him.
Speaker 3: So sometimes parents hate the other person who is watcher,
Speaker 3: observer or not to I don't know, taking an action
Speaker 3: seeing this even more because they are unconsciously expecting defense
Speaker 3: protection that mother in this case is not giving them.
Speaker 3: So I don't know about the forgiveness. I know about
Speaker 3: that sickness that their father definitely had, and probably mother
Speaker 3: was doing that or out of fear and being defendful,
Speaker 3: or out of your sexual desire as well, because we
Speaker 3: don't know what she was. You know, probably they started
Speaker 3: somehow making those kids. We don't know. Maybe they were
Speaker 3: swingers by the time. We have no idea how they
Speaker 3: made those kids. Maybe they made them on the drugs
Speaker 3: and they liked all these you know, trendy things and
Speaker 3: so on. So we don't know what's your sexual desire
Speaker 3: or what it was, and did he get any pleasure
Speaker 3: and satisfaction while watching it, or she was just indifferent
Speaker 3: to defend her kids because she was dependful, maybe from
Speaker 3: money wise or any other because she was scared to
Speaker 3: be filled herself. So they just their avenge. That's what
Speaker 3: they did. The problem is that you are always fifty
Speaker 3: percent your father and mother, and we are not gods
Speaker 3: to take out the life that wasn't given by us.
Speaker 3: So our parents are giving us the life. This is
Speaker 3: that your soul was born and raised up in those circumstances.
Speaker 3: It's a tough childhood for sure. So I'm not sure
Speaker 3: about those two if they have any life partners, if
Speaker 3: they have any of their own kids or families, because
Speaker 3: I'm sure they have few, have a lot of fears,
Speaker 3: and have one of the one's sicknesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of them has a one of them had
Speaker 2: a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I think they're both married. Actually I think they're a
Speaker 1: marriage because she's married in prison.
Speaker 2: But now they're separated, apparently because she said something. There's
Speaker 2: on the paper the other day that there's they're split up,
Speaker 2: the rumors that they split. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: the whole thing about having women when you're locked up
Speaker 2: for life. It's just that.
Speaker 1: It's a change. But know, I mean you you made
Speaker 1: a point that I have never considered, but I think
Speaker 1: it's a really important one because most people that have
Speaker 1: looked at this case over the years have taken the
Speaker 1: position of the murdering of Kitty as proving that this
Speaker 1: was really all about the money, because if they only
Speaker 1: killed their father, they wouldn't get the money. They had
Speaker 1: killed their mother as well. But the other side of
Speaker 1: it is maybe they don't. Maybe they just yes Beverly
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills family. Maybe maybe they just saw their mother
Speaker 1: as the only person who could possibly have stopped the
Speaker 1: monster their father, and she didn't have the courage to
Speaker 1: do it. And I mean that's a now maybe that
Speaker 1: maybe that has been played out and I just haven't
Speaker 1: heard anybody say that.
Speaker 3: But always hate the observer much more because if this
Speaker 3: guy is sick, Okay, we understand he's sick. What about
Speaker 3: you your house?
Speaker 2: Oh you never heard that. I never heard that. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: So we always hate the observer because they had they
Speaker 2: had a chance to stop it, put an end to.
Speaker 3: It, absolutely stop it. But he was thinking about yourself.
Speaker 3: So we have two options. We didn't know she was
Speaker 3: sexually intrigued by that and inspired watching it, and she
Speaker 3: was sick also, or she was just a person playing victim,
Speaker 3: not ready to defend your own kids. So there are
Speaker 3: two versions, and we will never find out that part
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: I just think that the lady, she loved her life.
Speaker 2: She loved the money, she loved the country club, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And after a certain amount of time, some women, some
Speaker 2: relationships just form into like we say, a partnership, a
Speaker 2: business partnership. This guy jose Man. Then there's apparently allegedly
Speaker 2: sexually abused Ricky Martin. Matter of fact, a good buddy
Speaker 2: of a friend of ours, Robert Rand wrote the book
Speaker 2: on Menenda's brothers, and he, I mean, he gave us
Speaker 2: the story years ago that the father sexually abused Ricky,
Speaker 2: and Ricky was on tape admitting it. Then his publicists said,
Speaker 2: you can't talk that way, don't. That's not it's off
Speaker 2: the record. So there was a bad guy, Jose So
Speaker 2: I think the mother knew this, but I think it's
Speaker 2: justified what they did. I hate to be that blunt,
Speaker 2: but you can't put kids through that kind of His
Speaker 2: father told him he may believe what he was having
Speaker 2: sex with them, that this is what soldiers do. This
Speaker 2: is how the Greek armies were so strong that the
Speaker 2: father would send his son out, but first they would
Speaker 2: have sex. And just crazy shit.
Speaker 3: These kids went through, you know what, because they still
Speaker 3: killed the person. They still went against the gods, you
Speaker 3: know because he gave the two people as well. And
Speaker 3: actually they ruined them family tree because don't forget that
Speaker 3: we have to be very respectful to our and sectors.
Speaker 3: No matter what. We don't judge them. We like them,
Speaker 3: we dislike them where they take them as they are,
Speaker 3: because if not them, we would never have the gifts
Speaker 3: of life. So what I have to tell you, they
Speaker 3: killed the structure of the family tree. They definitely went
Speaker 3: against the gods. And if they want to really experience
Speaker 3: the forgiveness, and I don't know those people. I don't
Speaker 3: know if they're going to be in and out from prison,
Speaker 3: but I think they should if they want to do
Speaker 3: something beautiful for the planet, maybe create If they have
Speaker 3: this financial opportunity at charity fund, that's their outcome from
Speaker 3: their pain, you know.
Speaker 2: Actually doing some good things. They do some good things
Speaker 2: in fact prisoners.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but exactly with the kids who are suffering
Speaker 3: from the same trauma from victims of abuse. So already
Speaker 3: it happened to your life. You can't change the past
Speaker 3: already you kill the parents, you can change it all.
Speaker 3: So if God gives you another chance of liberty and freedom,
Speaker 3: use it, but use it for good and heal yourself first,
Speaker 3: because if you don't fulfilled with light, you can spread
Speaker 3: it out.
Speaker 2: I think they will, and I think I want to
Speaker 2: just take the counterpoint. I don't think some family trees
Speaker 2: keep growing. Some families should not be around anymore. Some
Speaker 2: people are just so evil I can't think about what
Speaker 2: their great grandparents were.
Speaker 3: Like parts of God's plan. AJL is a part of evil.
Speaker 3: As a part of God's plan, you know, I'll give
Speaker 3: you a very stupid but simple example. You have smoked marijuana.
Speaker 3: You know what is like your part and so on?
Speaker 3: So is it evil?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Does sometimes goods come to you when you're a little
Speaker 3: bit like relaxed. And I'm not promoting Americana. I'm not smoking.
Speaker 3: I tried it in my life, but I'm not doing it,
Speaker 3: and I consider it to be evil. But sometimes even
Speaker 3: evil ways like drugs or abuse or whatever can bring
Speaker 3: you to life if you're smart enough to catch yourself
Speaker 3: in this condition, take yourself out and make conclusions about
Speaker 3: the life and proceed in a different way. So even
Speaker 3: people who are lost, you have to give them a chance,
Speaker 3: as God does it. And I'm not speaking religiously, but
Speaker 3: we George, they appeared there is a mission behind it.
Speaker 2: You know, Well, well we're going to see what happens,
Speaker 2: and we should hear about it pretty soon. About these guys,
Speaker 2: let's see what happens.
Speaker 1: Look, I think they did a horrific thing. They've also
Speaker 1: been incarcerated for thirty something years for that thing, and
Speaker 1: during the history of those thirty plus years of incarceration,
Speaker 1: they've been modeled inmates and done some positive work. And
Speaker 1: I don't think represent any kind of a threat.
Speaker 2: I don't think so to society if.
Speaker 1: They were released, Unlike you know, he didn't half the
Speaker 1: people that we that we end up releasing. But I'm
Speaker 1: very torn on this one because it's a horrible thing.
Speaker 1: But I think what you said, I mean really resonates
Speaker 1: with me that I hadn't thought in that way about
Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, their their mother being the
Speaker 1: only person who could have stopped this. They wouldn't they
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had to kill the two of them if
Speaker 1: she would have had the courage to get away from him,
Speaker 1: or go to the police, or any of the other
Speaker 1: things she could do before her young sons.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just what a mother means to a child.
Speaker 2: A mother was protecting your soul before you were even
Speaker 2: out of the womb. She's she's the epitome of protection
Speaker 2: and love and security. And for her to abandon you
Speaker 2: in those moments, well, oh that's shattering. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: never thought of it that way. It's interesting. The observer
Speaker 2: is worse sometimes very true.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll know some things in a couple of days. So,
Speaker 1: as you may recall, was I was benched, suspended and
Speaker 1: thrown out of the forever or for now segment last
Speaker 1: week because all I kept doing for I think four
Speaker 1: weeks or five weeks going was bringing these couples up
Speaker 1: who proved to actually have been meant for each other.
Speaker 1: And so toss the ball over to AJ this week,
Speaker 1: and you got a great little question here about a
Speaker 1: couple that ceased being a couple sixty one years and
Speaker 1: some couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big one, because look, I hang around
Speaker 2: in Florida with you guys, and when you're along with
Speaker 2: Arena and you give her some people's name, celebrities, what
Speaker 2: have you, she'll talk right to the chase and tell
Speaker 2: you what she thinks. But so far in these these
Speaker 2: forever are for nows, we've always been coming up with
Speaker 2: people who are going to stay together forever. So I
Speaker 2: thought maybe John Kennedy, the former president, and Jackie Onassis,
Speaker 2: even though they're done, I want to know about that
Speaker 2: as a couple.
Speaker 3: So you remember my statement, Yeah, it's not forever for now.
Speaker 3: We never know. You can fall in love tomorrow. And
Speaker 3: I always say that people are staying together until their karma.
Speaker 3: Task together is not over until you need to work
Speaker 3: out something for yourself. And they're definitely blessed or arranged unions,
Speaker 3: but they are still meant to be because they work
Speaker 3: out very well. So I was very intrigued by this couple. Actually,
Speaker 3: you know that I was very curious about Millennia and Trump,
Speaker 3: and this is the second couple that impressed me very much.
Speaker 3: They are all good couples, they are all like make
Speaker 3: it together, but this is something different, and they really
Speaker 3: stayed until the last day of his life. So I
Speaker 3: did it today in a different way, and I think
Speaker 3: it's going to work out much better for us, and
Speaker 3: probably I will continue this way. A few worries about
Speaker 3: thirty fifth President of the United States, who is John Kennedy.
Speaker 3: So he was a fast person who could do a
Speaker 3: few things together at the same time he had number
Speaker 3: twelve in conflict. That means that he could be dependful
Speaker 3: on medication. Actually he had addison disease, he had Slang's disorder,
Speaker 3: and he could be dependful on anything. What is drugs,
Speaker 3: tablets or put you in something that you're an illusional
Speaker 3: step state of mind. He definitely, it's for sure, used
Speaker 3: amphetamine for his back pain, and steroids and so on
Speaker 3: and so on. I'm not saying he was a drug addict,
Speaker 3: but he was using a lot of medications that put
Speaker 3: him in this illusional state of mind. As I told
Speaker 3: you before his life plus number eighty seven. That speaks
Speaker 3: about him as a truth seeker, deep thinker, and strong
Speaker 3: intellectual activity he has and very good intuition. I think
Speaker 3: it's true he's Gemini and his Venus in Gemini. That
Speaker 3: speaks about his two marriages. At least I don't know
Speaker 3: he had official two marriages. I just actually I didn't
Speaker 3: double check it, to be honest. We can maybe you
Speaker 3: know better. But he definitely was a womanizer and he
Speaker 3: loved women. That this is a worst case in an
Speaker 3: area when Venus in Gemini could work out very destructive
Speaker 3: for you. His TuS, his mercury, that has planet of
Speaker 3: communication is in Taurus. That speaks about him as a
Speaker 3: very successful materialistic person, and he was a rich and
Speaker 3: famous guy. And his karma task is in Capricorn, and
Speaker 3: he was a very career oriented, that's for sure. He
Speaker 3: has a very interesting aspect of Mars planet of activity
Speaker 3: square Ornius that gives him such a I don't know,
Speaker 3: like a shade of very revolutional person, very impulsive person
Speaker 3: who loves extreme, who likes to be on the edge,
Speaker 3: who likes to you know, don't know what's going to
Speaker 3: happen next second, and the risk of some unexpected events
Speaker 3: including death. That was unbelievable that I did astrology, but
Speaker 3: the numerology and that so if he wouldn't be killed
Speaker 3: in a car accident like the way he was in car,
Speaker 3: but I mean like he would be killed or through
Speaker 3: electricity or war or avia or car accident. So because yes,
Speaker 3: his Mars square Rangy speaks about that. That's not often
Speaker 3: I see these aspects while working with people and doing
Speaker 3: the avershat reading as well. This aspect creates a trouble
Speaker 3: and makes the person to be a provocator who knows
Speaker 3: how to make people on fire, you know, with one word.
Speaker 2: Before. What did you back up a little bit? What
Speaker 2: did you say got you to this point? You mentioned
Speaker 2: a theory or something about Kennedy. What did you say
Speaker 2: that because of him such and such? What are you
Speaker 2: looking at?
Speaker 3: Not just killed? He was killed in this case, it's protestined.
Speaker 3: I'm saying about you. Where do we speak? Mars is
Speaker 3: a planet of uh its musculine planet already is. It's
Speaker 3: a big planet of unexpected events in your life. When
Speaker 3: they create an astrology stress aspect, it means that something
Speaker 3: very destructive, unexpected will happen to you. It could be more,
Speaker 3: it will be It can be aba, I don't know,
Speaker 3: disaster like a plane fell down. It could be car accident,
Speaker 3: it could be pistol, it could be electricity, unexpected deaths.
Speaker 3: That's what happened to him.
Speaker 1: He was destined astrologically to die young.
Speaker 2: And he almost died with the pt one online the boat.
Speaker 2: The whole mishappened in the war. Okay, good, I'm not.
Speaker 3: God speaking about the date of death, but he's astrological.
Speaker 3: If he did his astrologym, I'm sure if he didn't,
Speaker 3: he would pay a lot of attention. Stay away from tablets,
Speaker 3: stay away from drugs, be very accurate with women, and
Speaker 3: definitely not use any guns, and don't put himself on
Speaker 3: fire and uncomfortable, unexpected situations. And he did everything opposite
Speaker 3: everything else I did.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, he had something. He had
Speaker 2: an illness. I love this illness. It's called satiriasis. Satiriasis
Speaker 2: is an abnormally intense sexual desire. Other men have exact.
Speaker 2: Boris Johnson in the UK has it, apparently. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure how you get diagnosed this, but Kennedy definitely had that.
Speaker 2: So he was with women constantly. He loved women.
Speaker 1: So does the doctor write you prescription that says you
Speaker 1: can fuck whoever you want? Is that what happens?
Speaker 2: I'm going to look into it. It's not a bad
Speaker 2: disease to.
Speaker 1: Have no talk about a prescription. I mean, honey, look
Speaker 1: I didn't. I had nothing to do with this. I
Speaker 1: went to the doctor Thursday to give me this prescription.
Speaker 1: Look what it says, take three women once every twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. Look that's right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my dear, you have to wait until you're reading.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about her. She has a very poor destiny.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, wow, So let me here. So Kennedy
Speaker 2: is predestined. I like this go ahead.
Speaker 3: So as well, Mar's in conjunction with mercury gives him
Speaker 3: impulsive decisions, problems with nervous system and lengths. I even
Speaker 3: looked at his health wise. Very yes, this addison, this
Speaker 3: is that he had yeah, very sentimental, very sentimental, very sensitive,
Speaker 3: loves luxury, loves beauty and would be uncounted or stupid
Speaker 3: sex connections and as well, problems with skidness. And I
Speaker 3: think because he used a lot of tablets and so on,
Speaker 3: I'm sure he had it. So when we speak about her, guys,
Speaker 3: she is first of all, she is a love bringer.
Speaker 3: She's like her whole thing that she is a partnership
Speaker 3: oriented person. Twenty one speaks about your worldwide non traveler
Speaker 3: could be fast as well, and he has thirteen in conflicts.
Speaker 3: Thirteen its death. So that's a life changing point or
Speaker 3: it should be a big trial that it's difficult to overcome.
Speaker 3: That puts your life, cuts it off before and after.
Speaker 3: That's what happened to her in direct sense. The thirteen
Speaker 3: life past number is eleven. That master number speaks about
Speaker 3: very high level of intuition, spirituality, insights, inspiration, grace ability
Speaker 3: to connect with people, and that's what happened. People loved her,
Speaker 3: you know, and the way she was she was extremely
Speaker 3: educated's very classy woman. Your son is in Leo. She
Speaker 3: did a lot of contribution to arts, historical architecture, her elegance.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows she is a fascion icon. Your moon is
Speaker 3: an area she can be on fire. Also, she could
Speaker 3: be very emotional. I'm not sure that everybody knows this
Speaker 3: side of her, but still and Hu Mercury is in Leo.
Speaker 2: Leo.
Speaker 3: That speaks about your being on the stage, being in
Speaker 3: center of attention. And she was a book editor. That's
Speaker 3: how she made her career, right, Yeah, so she was
Speaker 3: a smart woman. Your karma task is in Toros money
Speaker 3: and you remember that he has it too, so his mercury.
Speaker 3: It's when you speak about compatibility chart. His mercury. This
Speaker 3: money making professional related to Taurus and she has as
Speaker 3: a karma task. So her karma task was to embrace
Speaker 3: as much material things as possible. But it happened to
Speaker 3: her through trial and a lot of disappointment.
Speaker 5: And also we speak about your she has venus in
Speaker 5: a position is a very distrusting aspect with Saturn with
Speaker 5: a planet of limitations that brings you disappointment in love
Speaker 5: forever and complex based on that trauma, based on that.
Speaker 3: Partner or older or marriage for money.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: That was you know, the problems with problems with having kids.
Speaker 3: She had her own two kids, but she didn't have
Speaker 3: any kids with him, and influence or from her parents.
Speaker 3: I don't know about this. Yeah, I don't know this
Speaker 3: part of your life, to be honest. So yeah, others,
Speaker 3: she's a personal real power. She knows how to take decision,
Speaker 3: could be fluent in taking and delivering the information, could
Speaker 3: be overthinking and I'm sure or her destiny could give
Speaker 3: her a lot of points to think about. You know,
Speaker 3: your marks in square with another time with Sutur, which
Speaker 3: is not easy, can give her a lot of hidden
Speaker 3: anger and if irritated. These kind of people, they can
Speaker 3: do anything and professional risks, accidents, problems with bone, interest
Speaker 3: or joints. So when we look at them together, they
Speaker 3: have these you know, they have interest in their life.
Speaker 3: Past number together is three. That actually gives them opportunity
Speaker 3: just to exchange resources what they have and their marriage
Speaker 3: should be simple, which was not nice. You know, their
Speaker 3: common task is seventeen to become famous, and she did.
Speaker 2: They did, and she.
Speaker 3: Did, and they did together because she was a person
Speaker 3: of grace and he was a person of politics.
Speaker 2: So yeah, before you before you go forward. So basically,
Speaker 2: just the let people understand this. You could have known
Speaker 2: this about her and him. Let's just let me just
Speaker 2: break this down if someone would, if somebody were to
Speaker 2: give you their birthdays and their numbers. Let's say when
Speaker 2: they were children, you would have gotten the same thing.
Speaker 2: You would have said, the same thing you said, Now,
Speaker 2: how do you not become president? And she not become Jacqueline?
Speaker 2: One asks those two people, based on numerology, would have
Speaker 2: turned out to be just as they turned out to be.
Speaker 3: Let's say you don't give me the names. Let's say
Speaker 3: you give me two numbers of two people. I would
Speaker 3: still see and I say, this couple can be financially successful,
Speaker 3: the couple can have kids, this couple can become famous together,
Speaker 3: this couple can change the place of presidents. Because I
Speaker 3: see the aspects astrologically or no metrologically, but I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say you can become famous singer, famous politician, or famous killer,
Speaker 3: but you can correct.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's interesting. I don't think people understand that
Speaker 2: because I have friends of mine say give me their
Speaker 2: birthday and saying, ask yourna, you know what about me?
Speaker 2: How am I shaping up? And I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to bother you with that. But I don't think
Speaker 2: a lot of people understand.
Speaker 3: We're very open to take questions from people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
Speaker 3: They want astrology or whatever they want.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll get you some people. But this is
Speaker 2: my cousin, and she asked the question. But here's what
Speaker 2: bugs me about. Tell me if this bothers you're a rena,
Speaker 2: you're a woman. You love your husband to death. Okay,
Speaker 2: obviously they had a marriage that I'm sure she knew
Speaker 2: he had affairs, typical political, Hollywood type marriage. When he
Speaker 2: got shot. I don't know how many times you've seen
Speaker 2: the film of him being shot, but the image of
Speaker 2: him being shot and then her climbing out of the
Speaker 2: back of the car, crawling out of the back of
Speaker 2: the car to get out of the car, that always
Speaker 2: bugged me, because if my wife just got shot in
Speaker 2: the head, I would hold her and protect her. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't try to get out of the car. That always
Speaker 2: pissed me, and some people say, well, she knew what
Speaker 2: kind of manny was. Maybe she was she had it
Speaker 2: with him. I said, no, you shouldn't want to. You
Speaker 2: should want to protect your loved one. You don't want
Speaker 2: to crawl away.
Speaker 1: Well, so I don't know if I mean she her
Speaker 1: first move is actually not it was a convertible, and
Speaker 1: so she's yeah, she's actually putting her arms around and
Speaker 1: grabbing pieces of his brain.
Speaker 2: I heard that that side too, I heard that angle.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you can see that through the
Speaker 1: Bruder film and and running it. Uh, you know, they've
Speaker 1: now gotten that. That film has been remastered a bunch
Speaker 1: of times and now it's actually i mean still not Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great today's quality. It's great, but you can and
Speaker 1: it's also helped the the modernization of that that short
Speaker 1: movie home movie by this Guy's a Bruder has really
Speaker 1: changed a lot of opinions about what actually happened in
Speaker 1: the assassination because the the whole theory of him being
Speaker 1: shot from the front and into the neck and him
Speaker 1: going to his neck with his hands has really been
Speaker 1: blown up. And it's it's that his his first move
Speaker 1: is to clench his fist like this because he's been
Speaker 1: shot back, and it's a reflex to to a shot
Speaker 1: into the spine that was actually a misfire. The bullet
Speaker 1: did not go through is But anyway, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of of stuff around this. But but I think the
Speaker 1: Secret Service got to her as she was grabbing everything.
Speaker 2: It was Rosie Greer, the old football player, Rosie Greed
Speaker 2: got to work. I know. I just said that it
Speaker 2: was a weird moment for me that I didn't think
Speaker 2: my mother would do, or Arena would do, or Jerry
Speaker 2: Ann would do. I don't know, but maybe you're right.
Speaker 2: Maybe she was collecting bits and pieces of him and
Speaker 2: she was obviously shocked. Hard to tell how we'd all react.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was shocked, you never know how you
Speaker 3: would be heaved.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and if he was diagnosed with what's it called.
Speaker 2: Again, oh, satiriasis, satirizes it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I really need to do a teleconference for my
Speaker 1: doctor this afternoon and see what we can do. But
Speaker 1: but but if if she knew that, I mean there's
Speaker 1: maybe they talked about all this stuff and who knows
Speaker 1: what what what she understood and and didn't understand, I
Speaker 1: don't know what.
Speaker 2: And she also was put up with Malon Monroe. I
Speaker 2: mean her singing happy Happy birthday, mister president in that
Speaker 2: very sexual manner. Jackie O, you know, had a man
Speaker 2: on her hands that was out to get a lot
Speaker 2: of women, and he was very successful at it. So
Speaker 2: who knows what they what she felt at the end,
Speaker 2: but interesting stuff got Arena.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's more about you know, you can
Speaker 3: leave a short life with a genius, so you can
Speaker 3: leave a lot of long life being protected. And you know,
Speaker 3: so she knew what she's doing. She knew was what
Speaker 3: kind of man she is. And the funniest thing that
Speaker 3: I can speak like a lot about numbers, but the
Speaker 3: most interesting thing that the abase of their couple was fame, money,
Speaker 3: glory and everything and they were shining, you know, even
Speaker 3: like it was different ways, but anyway, and their base
Speaker 3: of their happiness was family. They have number twenty.
Speaker 2: This is sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can say you can George, you can
Speaker 3: know what he was and she put up with that
Speaker 3: and she knew it was kind of your job to
Speaker 3: understand him very well because he was a special man,
Speaker 3: let's call it this way. And yeah, like both brothers,
Speaker 3: they weren't eily. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what she did. What do you
Speaker 2: want to say about her? She raised two great children.
Speaker 2: I mean her son, her son and daughter. You can't
Speaker 2: say that about her son. John Kennedy Junior was everything
Speaker 2: and more and Caroline as well, successful, good, good children.
Speaker 2: So she did it on her own for the most part.
Speaker 2: So I give a lot of credit for that, because
Speaker 2: those kids could have been disasters. Seeing your father get
Speaker 2: shot and killed like that, and all the rumors and
Speaker 2: stories over the years about him, and when I used
Speaker 2: to hang around with his son, you wouldn't think that
Speaker 2: this kid came from a family with that kind of
Speaker 2: tragedy around it, not at all. So did a good job.
Speaker 3: You know what's the most interesting that when we speak
Speaker 3: about like past life and we speak about signature personalities,
Speaker 3: and it could be Queen's, it could be I don't
Speaker 3: know any give you any other singer who was crazy
Speaker 3: but tellings or you know Marilyn Monroe who died very young,
Speaker 3: and she was and she had her producing company and
Speaker 3: she was a talented woman, but she started from being
Speaker 3: very poor actor and you know, just his sexuality and everything,
Speaker 3: but there was brain behind it. Even people think they
Speaker 3: she didn't have it. So everybody, or Michael Jackson with
Speaker 3: all his operations, or Madonna with all her craziness. I
Speaker 3: don't know. These people did a lot. You can like them,
Speaker 3: dislike them, but you will remember them. So I remembered
Speaker 3: historically like good people, you know, like for some reason,
Speaker 3: like so he was a good guy, okay, and they
Speaker 3: don't remember you. Okay.
Speaker 1: I really very impressed with your culture, knowledge about your bringing.
Speaker 1: Bring some of that, because you're you're not getting it
Speaker 1: on Fox News from your husband or not on a
Speaker 1: daily basis.
Speaker 2: I will end.
Speaker 3: Up working there, I think. So that's how you look
Speaker 3: at me like that. I will be nice to him,
Speaker 3: and he will look at me like this. I'll be everywhere.
Speaker 2: I'll be great.
Speaker 1: Okay. So what I'm just gonna say a phrase and
Speaker 1: and tell me give me your thoughts on this arena.
Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 2: Uh, I Are.
Speaker 1: You totally agree every everything happens for a reason? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean I've really come to I mean, look, I uh,
Speaker 1: I'm only with my wife because a guy that was
Speaker 1: my partner in business and worked with for the first
Speaker 1: ten years of my professional life died in my arms
Speaker 1: at a very young age and in the aftermath of that,
Speaker 1: that that brought Jerry Ann and I together. And were
Speaker 1: it not for this guy, Glenn Uh dying very young,
Speaker 1: there's no way we would be together. And there's all
Speaker 1: kinds of things like that that that happened. And and
Speaker 1: so I have something that happened this week started on
Speaker 1: Sunday that I'm uh, well, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to play out with you guys and get your advice.
Speaker 1: So so there's a guy who when UH when I
Speaker 1: was at Vanderbilt, UH was a year younger than me,
Speaker 1: and it was two years younger than me and came
Speaker 1: to UH school and so I was very active in
Speaker 1: my fraternity. So he's somebody that I rushed to come
Speaker 1: into the fraternity and I got I got very close
Speaker 1: to this guy, and we got into a lot of
Speaker 1: trouble together, and he eventually got booted out of school
Speaker 1: because he was just nothing but trouble. And and over
Speaker 1: the years, I've sort of lost contact with him from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of, you know, we weren't calling each other
Speaker 1: or directly, you know, maybe a text once a year
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but I would pay attention to his posts.
Speaker 1: He would pay attention to my posts, and I knew
Speaker 1: that he was really just all over planet Earth. I
Speaker 1: knew he was in a bunch of African countries. I
Speaker 1: knew he was all over Southeast Asia. He and this
Speaker 1: was him. He was always just on adventures, doing these
Speaker 1: these crazy things. And one of the things that bonded
Speaker 1: us together was he refused to let me get arrested alone.
Speaker 1: One night and his I got I got pulled over.
Speaker 1: He was in the car with me. We had left
Speaker 1: this restaurant with a group of guys, and I raced
Speaker 1: down this road against this this other guy that was
Speaker 1: with us in his car, And by the time I
Speaker 1: got to the bottom of the road, the siren was
Speaker 1: going off behind me, and I was panicked. I had
Speaker 1: like sixty dollars in my checking account. There was no
Speaker 1: way I was going to call my parents and ask
Speaker 1: him to bail me out. And I'm I'm about as
Speaker 1: down as you could be. And the next thing I know,
Speaker 1: he's in the back of the police car with me
Speaker 1: and and his name is Arnie, and I'm like, Arnie,
Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 2: Why are you.
Speaker 1: Why are you back up? Because dah though, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. Joke's on them. He goes well and he
Speaker 1: opens his his jacket and he had stolen the cops windbreaker.
Speaker 1: The cop had a police wind breaker. He's somehow, in
Speaker 1: the midst of whatever he went through with the cop
Speaker 1: managed to steal the cops windbreaker off the front seat
Speaker 1: of the passenger side seat of the police car. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, Arnie, the CoP's gonna want his jacket back.
Speaker 1: Just what are you doing? Give give the jacket back anyway,
Speaker 1: the cop is going crazy looking for his jacket before
Speaker 1: we can get out of there. I gotta be careful
Speaker 1: not to let this turn into a forty five minute story.
Speaker 1: Arnie is is so out of control and so funny
Speaker 1: that by the time we get down to the police station,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's made the cop pull over
Speaker 1: three times, faking that he's going to throw up in
Speaker 1: the guy's car. He's calling him Gary. He's calling the
Speaker 1: cop Gary by calling him by his first name. When
Speaker 1: they first bring us to the jail, he looks at
Speaker 1: the cop and tells him that he like clean sheets
Speaker 1: and a wake up call at seven, and he's doing
Speaker 1: all of this stuff and cop finally thinks were funny.
Speaker 1: We actually because there were other frat house guys that
Speaker 1: were with us, they'd all come to watch us get
Speaker 1: arrained and line TheRoom the courtroom. They were sitting in
Speaker 1: the on the benches when we come out, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still like, oh my god, I'm in so much
Speaker 1: trouble with the helm I'm going to do. And the
Speaker 1: judge says, misster, you know you've been charged with driving
Speaker 1: a vehicle onto the bubble. Would you understand these charges? Yes,
Speaker 1: your honor, mister I won't say his last name, but Arnie, uh,
Speaker 1: you've been charged with public drunkenness. Do you understand? I understand,
Speaker 1: but I have one objection, Your honor puts his arm
Speaker 1: around the cop until Gary here pulled me out of
Speaker 1: Mike's car. I was privately drunk. Always guys start cracking,
Speaker 1: I mean the whole He was so funny, and the
Speaker 1: cop loved him so much that the cop became a
Speaker 1: semi regular showing up at the frat house for Friday afternoon.
Speaker 1: Kegs didn't show up for my quick I got off.
Speaker 1: I never got in any trouble for anything, And it
Speaker 1: was all because of Arnie's sort of larger than life.
Speaker 1: This is who he is, and he and there's some
Speaker 1: things about him that remind me of k and him.
Speaker 1: There's also some Chico in him with I'd say Arnie
Speaker 1: is Chico, but with a stronger moral structure. So I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew Arnie was from the Palm Beach area because
Speaker 1: we came down. I mean, you know where guys are from.
Speaker 1: But I thought he was in Taiwan, or he was
Speaker 1: in Cambodia, or I didn't think he was here. And
Speaker 1: so he posts something on Sunday and I send him
Speaker 1: back a message on Facebook though, saying you won't believe this.
Speaker 1: We've moved to Jupiter. And then I get a response
Speaker 1: from him. I go, are you kidding? I'm in Jupiter.
Speaker 1: I'm living here with my dad who's eighty six and
Speaker 1: not doing well. Blah blah blah blah. So anyway, I
Speaker 1: get together with him within twelve hours of finding out
Speaker 1: he's here, and I find out this crazy story about
Speaker 1: him and African gold coming from Zambia. And I won't
Speaker 1: get to the details of it other than there's an
Speaker 1: opportunity he's put on the table, which is an opportunity
Speaker 1: years yafter not talking to each other directly in forty
Speaker 1: years he's put something on the table that is, you know,
Speaker 1: a huge return, a huge drain to return if if
Speaker 1: I'm willing to put some money in play. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm a very disciplined person. I go through my financial advisor.
Speaker 1: I don't turn around in twenty four or forty eight
Speaker 1: hours and you know, and do something. But his situation
Speaker 1: is one that requires somebody to do something. Doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be me, but somebody has to do something in
Speaker 1: twenty four or forty eight hours, or he's in a
Speaker 1: very Chico like situation. His would be more he owes
Speaker 1: the people money than something else. And and so I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here and I'm going, Okay, I mean, did all
Speaker 1: this happen because I'm supposed to help Arnie right now
Speaker 1: after all this time, or and the mean, while I
Speaker 1: have other people in my ear being No, Mike, you
Speaker 1: need to be more disciplined than that. You can't just
Speaker 1: do something like that because you think it's like spiritually
Speaker 1: meant to.
Speaker 2: So I don't agree.
Speaker 3: I mean you think so, Mike, what is interesting you
Speaker 3: started from the saying that everything happens for a reason,
Speaker 3: and tell you definitely yes, the difference makes that not
Speaker 3: always be understand at the same moment. Why so it
Speaker 3: will take some time to understand why it happened for
Speaker 3: a reason. So when you tell me and I found
Speaker 3: your speaking to my husband about the same subject that
Speaker 3: you brought up on the podcast right now, about investing
Speaker 3: in that project, about trusting the guy and so on,
Speaker 3: what makes us different? Men they're using while taking decision
Speaker 3: they had. So you started to dig into that, dive
Speaker 3: into the subject studied and come to the conclusion women,
Speaker 3: we had taken our intuitive decision. So we spoke about
Speaker 3: it briefly yesterday and I told you immediately, no, not
Speaker 3: because I want to take responsibility of your life. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure it's a correct moment to do it astrologically wise.
Speaker 3: Now it's retrograd mercury. And Kenny knows how seriously I
Speaker 3: had taken it, because we have. When he was buying
Speaker 3: the house where we live right now, the first signature
Speaker 3: that he put it was while retrogred mercury. And I
Speaker 3: can't say that I was against it, but I was
Speaker 3: very anxious and nervous about it, and I asked him
Speaker 3: please at least the closing date, make it afterwards when
Speaker 3: retromercury is over and if listeners know what at is,
Speaker 3: it's not a good period of time to start anything new,
Speaker 3: to move in to start new businesses, starts up. I
Speaker 3: don't know anything. What is paperwork, agreements and so on.
Speaker 3: So you brought up yesterday at the very first day
Speaker 3: of retrograd Mercury, about the offer of the person you
Speaker 3: haven't seen for forty years. Does it make sense that
Speaker 3: this person re entered your life. Yes, because while retro Mercury,
Speaker 3: all people or events or lessons from past life are
Speaker 3: coming back for us to be embraced again to understand
Speaker 3: how you would treat the person or how would you
Speaker 3: fix the situation. When we are speaking about starting a
Speaker 3: new beginning, whatever it is, business or financial, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: consider it a good period of time to take any
Speaker 3: new decision until December fifteenth, if you ask me from
Speaker 3: spirit all points of view, because I break it up
Speaker 3: in three I'm not God. I'm not taking any responsibility
Speaker 3: of anybody's life. But you said, maybe it's my lesson
Speaker 3: about helping Arnie. Maybe it's my lesson about being disciplined.
Speaker 3: You are smart, you are disciplined, you are helping people.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's your lesson about to know how to say no.
Speaker 3: How does that resonate with you? Because I know you
Speaker 3: said a lot of yeses for the last periods of
Speaker 3: time and during the life. What about this? How does
Speaker 3: your soul react right now?
Speaker 1: God, that's good? So yeah, that not bad? That could be?
Speaker 1: That could be The reason is I'm I'm reintroduced to
Speaker 1: his life and I see things that are concerning. I've
Speaker 1: found out some things that are pretty tragic. I had
Speaker 1: no idea idea that he got when he got married.
Speaker 1: He his wife died at a very young age from
Speaker 1: uh an overdose.
Speaker 2: You find how did you find this out?
Speaker 1: He told me? And uh uh and and so uh
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing him as a sixty year old man
Speaker 1: living like a sort of a nomad the way he
Speaker 1: lived when he was twenty Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm supposed to help him by not doing this
Speaker 1: that that resonated. Look, because no one, not Kenny, not you,
Speaker 1: not my wife, no one that I have brought this
Speaker 1: up to thus far. You're the only ones have has
Speaker 1: thought for a second that yeah, I should I should
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 3: No, you know, I'm not sure it's help you were
Speaker 3: this way, but it's more about you know the other
Speaker 3: thing that you just mentioned, he lost a wife because
Speaker 3: she was overdosed. It's another sign for you to realize
Speaker 3: how blessed you are with new things, beautiful things that
Speaker 3: are happening to you because your heart is finally released
Speaker 3: from pain about the kids. You know, so you have
Speaker 3: to understand that it's your healing lesson as well. And
Speaker 3: it's great that you met this guy. And it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean if you refuse, if you take a decision to refuse,
Speaker 3: that you're not going to be loved, appreciated or respected
Speaker 3: or still being friends as you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I know that in the other way you can
Speaker 3: support him and it would be helped.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. That's very good advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, I don't like. I mean, when I
Speaker 2: had money to give out loan and shit, I had
Speaker 2: learned a couple of lessons and I was at the
Speaker 2: time living with the producer Robert Evans and Beverly Hills,
Speaker 2: and you know, he had his high times producing The
Speaker 2: Godfather and all these terrific movies. And he told me
Speaker 2: money is like books. You know, you're not gonna get
Speaker 2: it back if you give a book away. Typically the
Speaker 2: person keeps the book. Same thing with money, and eventually
Speaker 2: that person ends up not wanting to see you even
Speaker 2: though you help them because they know they're going to
Speaker 2: pay you back, and they feel funny because they can't
Speaker 2: pay you back. So you basically root a friendship. So well,
Speaker 2: I had money to give, I used to follow that
Speaker 2: rule he is, to even say whatever they want to
Speaker 2: give him half, but don't give him anything ever again
Speaker 2: because you're gonna it's just that you're gonna keep coming.
Speaker 2: But in your case, you're too much of a pragmatic
Speaker 2: person to be rushed into a to be rushed into
Speaker 2: an investment like that. That's not the way your your head.
Speaker 1: Works normally, normally.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 3: Maybe think how you can help otherwise, if you want
Speaker 3: to help from your heart, it is a great feeling.
Speaker 3: I love to help people, but maybe you can do
Speaker 3: them some the way.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a great feeling when you do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea. There's something else you
Speaker 2: could do it for, impossibly, maybe you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know what The same exact thing happened last week.
Speaker 1: We get to the fourth segment. Yeah, and there's so
Speaker 1: much going on in the fourth segment, that gets emotional
Speaker 1: that I'm not ready ready for the fifth segment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was tough, right and unless you can take the
Speaker 1: ball and run with it.
Speaker 2: AJ we we were talking about, you know, working with
Speaker 2: family members who have suffered trauma, and that has been
Speaker 2: going around in heavy doses for a while for some
Speaker 2: of us. But the subject of the question would be,
Speaker 2: as a parent, sibling, a relative, a friend, how do
Speaker 2: you best support someone who's been through trauma? Part of
Speaker 2: this is about Arnie, but there's other traum. I mean,
Speaker 2: we we've all suffered trauma in our lives from people
Speaker 2: we love, et cetera, et cetera, and now as we
Speaker 2: get older, it happens more often. So I think we
Speaker 2: need to know exactly what the best way is of
Speaker 2: dealing with this, supporting someone who's been through some trauma.
Speaker 2: What do you say, Arena?
Speaker 3: I would say that's the best way to support somebody
Speaker 3: you love who is suffering through trauma or going through
Speaker 3: it is to create this safety atmosphere where you can
Speaker 3: be yourself, be totally transparent and relieved. And transparency is
Speaker 3: a big key of this atmosphere because you feel naked,
Speaker 3: like you're feeling sonar, you know like everybody seasier as
Speaker 3: you are, so the saying we are naked in front
Speaker 3: of God, we are what we are. So create trustful,
Speaker 3: create transparent, Create safe atmosphere for the person who is
Speaker 3: in pain right now. Create the feeling that they can
Speaker 3: be accepted as they are, no matter what they did.
Speaker 3: Loved fully, loved, understood. What does it mean? Listen carefully,
Speaker 3: be patient sometimes when needed. Respect every word because in
Speaker 3: case of trauma, warden is very important, especially when your
Speaker 3: native speak or not like me. So your vocabulary and
Speaker 3: you pose this while speaking mean a lot, you know
Speaker 3: and probably you know, go into details. Question the person,
Speaker 3: make this person feel important, I don't know whatever they say,
Speaker 3: this story, Ask what did you feel? So how this
Speaker 3: girl was dressed? You know, speak about their details. They
Speaker 3: will understand. They are so much into their story and
Speaker 3: they're very.
Speaker 2: Unstan that they can engage with them. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe if necessary, share as well your story,
Speaker 3: because you guys, your full of stories. You had the guy.
Speaker 3: For example, if somebody is suffering from drug addiction, you
Speaker 3: can say, you know that I lost a friend. You
Speaker 3: know that I realize how much it means to me,
Speaker 3: and you know, so share the story, participate in dialect,
Speaker 3: be transparent, provide full acceptance. And I think this is
Speaker 3: a great advice, not just for trauma healing, but as
Speaker 3: well before thanksga, you.
Speaker 2: Know, oh that's great. You know what that's good for
Speaker 2: the for the holiday especially. I did a show the
Speaker 2: other day and I found it ridiculous that two of
Speaker 2: these actresses in the movie Wicked, it's supposed to be
Speaker 2: a big smash movie, Ariana Grande and Cynthia Rivo, and
Speaker 2: this this journalist said to them that a lot of women,
Speaker 2: a lot of gays love this movie and they're holding
Speaker 2: space with it. And I never heard that expression holding space.
Speaker 2: And Arriva was like, oh my god, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was happening. And are ground is
Speaker 2: touching your face? It was a very weird moment. I
Speaker 2: had to look up with holding space meant apparently, it's
Speaker 2: what you're saying to stay engaged with someone, to make
Speaker 2: someone feel safe, to know that whatever they tell you
Speaker 2: is fine, You're not going to be judged. You're holding space.
Speaker 2: I never heard this expression talking about fie.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, that's safety.
Speaker 2: But we started off by saying these new words fire
Speaker 2: lit slack and now we've got holding space, which I
Speaker 2: never heard but apparently like a few years ago, was
Speaker 2: it top of mind? Never heard that expression about something
Speaker 2: being on your on your mind. Oh that's not really
Speaker 2: top of mind for me today. What so there's new
Speaker 2: things being born, but it is, it is. It is
Speaker 2: a very special shell because uh, there's so much going
Speaker 2: on with the holidays this holiday season with respect to
Speaker 2: the election that's still in people's heads and homes. And
Speaker 2: you know, as we get older, my Thanksgiving is very
Speaker 2: different than it used to be. Now it's just me
Speaker 2: and the kids. Well I'll cook for them here, but
Speaker 2: you know, it's a sad time for me. And I
Speaker 2: think it's a you know, my lost my mom on
Speaker 2: Christmas Day all that bloga. But as you get older,
Speaker 2: you lose people, and I think the holidays become sader.
Speaker 2: You know, I think it becomes sadder that you're with
Speaker 2: so many people.
Speaker 3: Okay, you remember the feeling of mother, but you can't
Speaker 3: write with scandal light anxio spirits to be.
Speaker 2: It's just that when holidays come a lot of people
Speaker 2: tend to not be so cheerful because it marks the
Speaker 2: time in their life. But it's so different now. It's
Speaker 2: not sad, it's a good point, but it's a little
Speaker 2: emptier than it used to be when so many people
Speaker 2: are gone. You know, the holidays are tough for a
Speaker 2: lot of people. So hopefully this season, UH will know
Speaker 2: how to deal with people's trauma, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big I'll just say a couple of
Speaker 1: things because I don't want to get too personal with it.
Speaker 1: But the UH, I have a family member that UH
Speaker 1: has gone through significant trauma and has gone through a
Speaker 1: few months of treatment that will for the first time
Speaker 1: be back with us all and I'm very and for
Speaker 1: for a few days, we've we've we've been with them
Speaker 1: since ANDERD treatment, but for periods of a couple of hours,
Speaker 1: not for days, and UH, and they haven't been around, yeah,
Speaker 1: any other people other than people going through treatment or
Speaker 1: these short visits with us. And so I'm I'm nervous
Speaker 1: about the entire experience that's going to go on the
Speaker 1: next few days. And and because I'm I'm so scared
Speaker 1: that maybe this didn't isn't going to work. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're currently with someone as a roommate where they
Speaker 1: are and that person's it's their seventh time through this,
Speaker 1: and you hear things like that people that have been
Speaker 1: through it three times or five times or seven times,
Speaker 1: and and that scares me on all kinds of of levels.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just not feeling real confident or sure
Speaker 1: of myself in terms of how what what what situated,
Speaker 1: how much this person should have thrown at them, what
Speaker 1: environment they should or shouldn't be in. Should I be
Speaker 1: careful or should I be My instinct is to be
Speaker 1: more aggressive and challenging with them, and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to move them along. But uh, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that my wife feels the same way.
Speaker 2: So it's it's well, first of all, I think the
Speaker 2: fact that the fact that this person is going to
Speaker 2: be with family. You have to understand that's what this
Speaker 2: person is thinking of more than anything. He's looking so
Speaker 2: forward to this to be with everybody. And I think
Speaker 2: you just take one moment at a time, one hour
Speaker 2: at a time. As try as that sounds, You've done
Speaker 2: everything as a human being who loves somebody can do
Speaker 2: to help that person. Have trusted that you did it great,
Speaker 2: you did it perfectly, and now you're going to find
Speaker 2: out where we go from here, but I think you've
Speaker 2: handled it magnificently, you and your wife to begin with,
Speaker 2: So I don't think you should be down on yourself
Speaker 2: with doubt yourself at all. You've done all the right
Speaker 2: moves since since this thing began. That's how I feel most.
Speaker 3: Totally agreed, totally agreed. You did an incredible, incredible job.
Speaker 3: You did what every parent should do, and you did.
Speaker 3: You even overdid it, so I would tell you because
Speaker 3: not everybody is blessed with your financial unities to provide
Speaker 3: the care you did, so you overdid it in all
Speaker 3: possible and impossible senses. The thing is, you have to
Speaker 3: give up control because there is only one disappointment that
Speaker 3: you can meet through life. You're not God, you understand.
Speaker 2: Also, don't forget that you don't don't forget that you're
Speaker 2: that you're about being tough. I mean, tough love is important.
Speaker 2: You know you did everything right, but tough love is
Speaker 2: essential as well. I wouldn't put that away either.
Speaker 3: Well, Mike, you know where I am. If you needed,
Speaker 3: I know where you're all. There are things I want
Speaker 3: to tell, but I'm still very personal with you. You
Speaker 3: know how much I respect you and your family. So
Speaker 3: there are things that as much as I love our audience,
Speaker 3: I can shout out for Yah course.
Speaker 1: Well look everything for a reason and Thanksgiving and h
Speaker 1: you know, I may need uh my handheld a little
Speaker 1: bit on. Yeah okay, but but hey, Happy Thanksgiving to
Speaker 1: all of you out there. Thank you for supporting what
Speaker 1: we're doing. And uh please share, like, subscribe, do all
Speaker 1: that happy podcast stuff and we'll we will be back
Speaker 1: at you next week.
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, everybody,