Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks for all the questions every but we're
gonna keep going because we've got lots of stuff. So
thanks for the lively check going on Buster Barnes, who
is here one twenty nine, Thank you, sir. I know,
I know you always catch it later or whatnot tell
us some times, so on your in because I'm not
sure we are says.
Speaker 2: This was to the question of is.
Speaker 1: The Superman box office troll for DCU he she they whatever, says,
I don't think so. They just just because it's the
first project and it's getting great reviews. If reviews were
more mixed, I'd be concerned DC just can't reclaim the
audience trust overnight.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, and the same thing that.
Speaker 1: Mike pointed out in our discord where we'll see what
Fantastic four goes. But as of right now, I would
say Superman unless something die or like a seventy eighty
percent drop happens next weekend, it's on track to beat
Thunderbolts in Captain America pretty good.
Speaker 2: That has good like characters that have been around for
a while.
Speaker 1: That has Florence Pugh, which is a massive star, and
Anthony Mack he's been around for a while if courns.
But I know it's Superman, but still that's a lower
brand nowadays. As far as like some of the Dama
show was done to it, that's a big deal. And
if it beats F four, that's a huge thing, because
I don't know four is gonna do either. I see
so many people talking about, Oh, it's gonna kill It's
gonna now Superman maybe doesn't do the international I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a crap shoot down days. But if it can
even be on.
Speaker 1: Par with F or, that's pretty good considering DC's not
done that in a while, barring Batman, right, Uh, they
continue on. Honestly, I doubt we see any max massive
box off wins for DCU until either Superman sequel or maybe.
Speaker 2: They're Batman movie. Yeah, and even their Batman movie I'm
mixed on.
Speaker 3: Because it'd be like not Batman too, it would be
no he's.
Speaker 2: Started like bringing bowl Batman like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that one I'm even mixed on because I
still we've never seen that, And that's why I want
it to happen, because that's another first of the podcasts
to have a To me, it's different of like you know,
Jared Lel's Jokers kind of around walking Phoenix. No, if
it is, we have the Batman two and then tears
that are braiding the bowl to Batman's At the same time,
I'm very curious of Dupeo.
Speaker 2: Just go Man. I love Batman, give it to me
or is it like I got Robert Patterson.
Speaker 1: I'm good right like that. I can't because I could.
I could see going either way. I could see dcu's
Batman baumb Mark could just see. Yeah, people like Batman.
This one's gonna be different because it's gonna have his
son in there. It's gonna be more fantastical. So I
really don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't And same thing, I gotta see the cast
because if they.
Speaker 1: Get a really like no name, sure Glenn Pally comes Batman,
then I'm like, hey, now, now we've got a conversation going, right.
And he said he said he he didn't really do
any superhero stuff. He said the only exception would be Batman.
So it's like to me, if we wake up to
Glen Pelle playing Batman, that's why it's okay, roll pass
and you might be a little trouble, you know, because
like Glenn Palell and like think about DCU Batman who gets.
Speaker 2: To be a bit more charming, and Glenn Palby.
Speaker 3: In that we just have a Texas Bruce Wayne like
an Texas accent. It's hard for me to not see
this guy as like a cowboy. I don't know, like
I haven't seen him play cowboys necessarily. I guess twisters
he kind of is, but he just.
Speaker 2: He kind of mad to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know it would be full circle because
don't forget. I'm not sure if you remember this. He
uh he was in Dark Knight Rises Baying beat him
up in the.
Speaker 2: Bank, Glenn Powell, Yeah, you didn't know this.
Speaker 3: You must have told me at some point. I'm gonna
pull up the clips, hold it.
Speaker 1: Up and you'll show it up there Asbo says, I'm
still recovering from again every drop dropped on me for
the gimmick. Yeah, I spos had a terrible prediction and
I dropped them with every bad one there. Yeah, find
that in the screen share it. So I got R
JR Dates to see you. So, he says, I think
the box office likes domesticaly that are going to be strong.
The Monday and Tuesday numbers from this week are fantastic.
The presumed numbers are j let's not get ahead of ourselves.
But yes, if it has that fifteen million ish Tuesday,
best Tuesday of the year again, that shows word of mouth.
That's like sinners, that's like a Barbie Oppenheimer. That's great, right,
and that's what we needed to keep doing, right because
same thing you myself who didn't love it.
Speaker 2: I still because I want I don't want.
Speaker 1: Zaaz Off to wake up one to say, you know what,
let's write off super Girl like I don't want to
live in the world.
Speaker 2: I want these things, even if I don't love them. Sony,
you know, Sony Marvel. No, no, that's a different story.
Speaker 1: But this I liked this way more and enough be like, yeah,
I want to see more of this, right, let's see
best of the year this far.
Speaker 2: But there's DISKINNA internationally. We talk about that.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if why internationally is so weak and if
they can recover over the next few weeks. I'm wondering
what they could do to better international marketing. It's tough, right,
because if it is just the Superman's too much with
America or j you know this, you guys got some
shit going on. You can until i'd say another three years.
You're not gonna be able to market a certain way, right,
And it's like the tariffs, all like, there's so much
other stuff. If it's just in the same thing, it's
case by case. If it's just people don't care about Superman,
that's what you gotta hope that Superman. This movie has
made people care about Superman and they like Superman.
Speaker 2: We're out now right.
Speaker 1: His last point is or for now, It says, this
seems to be a domestic heavy movie.
Speaker 2: I think it will likely finish at.
Speaker 1: Five fifty six fifty. I wish it could end seven hundred,
but it seems impossible to the international trends. And yeah,
and that's something where the Batman did better, right that
those numbers are right up there, But Batman is I'd
say that's a tough one for I personally own bias.
I still personally say Batman's the biggest here all the time.
I know you're a spindy boy, but what what do
you think not like like a one do you think
like if you just the biggest like every the merchandise
comic book movie, you know?
Speaker 2: I think those are the two.
Speaker 3: I think it's the question was the top you think
it's Spidy over Batman just for like marketing or in
the sense of like merchandising wise, I just feel like
he's easy a market yeah, for like children, just like
something about red and blue, like bright colors versus just
dark and dour and like sad character. I feel like
it's just more And it's funny.
Speaker 1: I think they both have the same because you had
Homecoming or Far from Home and No Way Home, and
then he had Dark Knight and Dark Rice. Is they
got the same amount of billion dollar movies, so I
can't even hit you with that. They're both at two
for the So that's funny. So we'll have to ASPIREMN
four in the Batman. So I think it's I think
it's tough because I think you're right, and I think
when you got the younger audience Spidey for sure, right,
but then I think the older audience go to Batman.
Speaker 3: So but it's so funny. You just reminded me. I
remember being like, uh, it's actually the same campsite. I'm
going in a couple of weeks in August here to
see some family. But when I was there, I was
like ten eleven and my one of my cousins, my
mom's cousin or something. Him and I had like a
heated debate on because he's like, Batman's better than Spider Man,
and like at that time, of course, I'm just like
peak spider Man, Like I don't know anything about any
other characters other than Spider Man, so I'm like, no,
way Man, spider Man totally kicked Batman's ass, which I
do believe. You know, of course, he's the greatest detective
of all times, so I imagine and best the seven Man,
best of seven you know, he's taken it. But you know,
and that's me showing my maturity, you know, as as
a young lad, I wouldn't have admitted that. I'm like,
fuck no, Spidery would just web them up and that
that would be that. But yeah, it's just funny seven.
Speaker 1: Year old Kirklan and there's like, oh yeah, Spider Man,
Sun's Crew, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 3: That's how I talked, That's how I looked. I was
that jacked as a little kid. But no, it's just
so funny that, like, way back then, I was having
this heated debate on these two characters and here we
are all these years later. It's like, yeah, no, those
are like probably the objective top two absolutely.
Speaker 1: And they're the ones that have overtime because you have
some people like Iron Man that got huge in the
last two decades, right, but they weren't always that huge.
And then to me of someone like Superman that look
at we talked about the retros, he was the top dog,
but then he fell off and I think Wolverine Goes
and Ebbs and flows and he got someone like a
Deadpool that's all over or even something like ten years ago.
I feel like for DC, Harley Quinn was like the
biggest character in the world, but.
Speaker 2: Then it's like, yeah, that's so it goes.
Speaker 3: I think helps a lot though it's that popular without Margo.
Speaker 1: But that's why I feel like maybe even if Batman
and Spearmen have not always been every year number one,
they have the best percentage.
Speaker 2: Right. Let's say every year.
Speaker 1: You had, Hey, who sold the most let's just say
merchandise ten years, you know, top ten for each year
since you know, since characters are created, I bet Spearman
and Batman are in them the most, with the other
characters Ebb and Flow right, So let's see Hulk was
up there for sure. Detail when I was a kid
that he the trinity of spe of Marvel was Wolverine
in Spierment and Halp. That was the trinity, where back
with DC it was one of one's a Superman and Batman.
But Hulk was massive. All the kid merged party stuff.
But now he's dropped. He's not up there, and I'd
like Hulf to get back there. But also sucks that
they can't really do a solo movie, right, so.
Speaker 3: They killed them with Smart Hulk they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I liked at the time, but Yark nine.
So the Superman box us not bad. I think we
agree with you. I think we're just waiting to see.
Mito says the marketing could have been better. To be sure,
the promotion tians were good, but the use of the
cast marketing certainly aim for a certain demographic.
Speaker 2: I think that is a longer.
Speaker 1: Conversation which seemed lots of people just strapping Kirkland. Hey,
I'm happy all these people.
Speaker 2: Are here in the chat.
Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna get the other topics, but I'm
gonna to take on another separate thing.
Speaker 2: It's still Superman.
Speaker 1: How like how much of an impact and chat you
went to how much of an impact do you think
influencers really have, because I think toasts have saying like
tick talkers and all those people where you get tons
of the theaters, right, And I think we talked about
this before where there was this report, Well there's two.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you've heard about this. One Maya
Hawk was she was one to direct a movie or
she is directing a movie.
Speaker 1: And she was casting and they're like, oh, well, we
would prefer she didn't say who the producer, but we
would prefer you to have people in the movie that
have like this amount of Instagram followers. And she was like,
that's an awful way to cast a movie. And her
dad backed up on that. And now there's people that
are influencers that are in the movie or they're getting
the screenings before the critics. And for me, I've never
thought I'm not saying it doesn't make any difference, but
how much it's taking over. And at the same time,
I don't know if critics make a difference either. I
think we're in a way time where it is just
kind of people have less money, people are shrapped. I
think they go way more off what their friends say
or just kind of what their family wants to do,
because same thing, you have to kind of pick and choose.
But I've never seen any and I don't follow any influencers,
but I just I've never heard anyone tell me, oh,
I'm seeing this movie because of an Influencer're granted it
might be a uh like a chicken egg, right, they
might have seen it from them, didn't even think about it,
and now they want to see the movie. But I
think people that are like the whole tiktoks and trends
and stuff like, I think there's a few ones those
like the hot ones, but even then, like.
Speaker 2: It's tough because it's part of marketing. But I don't
know if all.
Speaker 1: Those kind of let's get on trends and trick chalks
and let's go do a collab with this very famous YouTuber,
Like I don't know, like if David Quornsweat did something
with fucking Logan Paul. I don't think that would have
helped this movie. But the companies think that that's like
a true thing right now, So what do you.
Speaker 2: Where are you on that?
Speaker 3: I didn't even really know that was a thing, honestly
until you just drop that bombline right now, I'm not
I'm not on the talk No, not the TikTok, the
talk tic or any of those. I'm adamantly against the
talk tic. But uh say that for an afternoight No,
but uh, I mean I'm not gonna say it doesn't
have any impact, especially just considering how whatever percentage of
like young youths or people that are above twenty or
under thirty in the age range, maybe that are like
the peak audience for these types of films. I'm probably
way wrong on that demographic. It's probably way higher than that.
But like a lot of people are using the toc tic,
you know, and like they know these influencers, yeah, one
hundred percent. And like these companies, I'm sure they hire
whatever it's called statics, Oh my gosh, stats experts status.
I need the statics status.
Speaker 2: I need that, right, you just like make static on
people for some reason.
Speaker 3: But like they employ people that that is their job
to like like the science behind gear, like just getting audience, yeah,
to like we.
Speaker 1: Do all time too, like not exact, but we look
at our stats all the time, right and say, hey,
what are people into? What are we on there's, like
we've said before, we love doing comic virgins, but it
was always one of the lower things because people don't
read comic books. So we loved reading a Colm before
in the movie breaking that down. But even us as
a business have to go, okay, you know, we have
to invest our time, right, and same thing.
Speaker 2: There must be some stats.
Speaker 1: But just like I don't know if I think it's
like certain movies too, Like I like, I don't know
why I would believe you say, hey, we're gonna partner
with influencers on Barbie two, It like that's the right audience. Superman, Yeah,
maybe just because there is a bit of superhero fatigue
where people go like, cool, I saw him fly by,
like you know. But at the same time, I think
Dave corn sweat getting out there being a likable person helps.
Speaker 2: But maybe that just helps the point where they go, oh,
I'll watch that at home. Right, doesn't mean.
Speaker 3: It's also just like as an actor, that's probably what
you want to do, right. You want to be seen
as a like a like a good person, so people
want to seek you out. It's like, oh, you know
that Jimmy Olsen, guy, goddamn is he is he awesome?
Speaker 2: So how do you.
Speaker 1: Feel about this quote? Michael b Joined a couple of
months ago said he hasn't have social media because Denzel
Washington said if they see for free on the weekday,
they're not going to pay free on the weekend.
Speaker 3: That's such a badass quote.
Speaker 2: I think there's a meaning to that though, because it's
also like an old.
Speaker 3: Time, old timer type quote, Like there's a.
Speaker 1: Lot of special right like to see be back in
the day, to see a movie star, it's like, oh,
they got a movie coming up.
Speaker 3: But now that's like, man, seeing an actor on screen
is so special in the sixties. Well, yeah, obviously, But
now I can fucking stream all of whatever shows I
want on my unlimited data that I have. I could
be up in the bush somewhere as long as I
have it, like access to internet or data or something like.
It's just easy access there. I mean, there was a
time when being on TV show was like you're bombing
your career right absolutely, and now.
Speaker 2: There's just so much like a distinction, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think there is some truth to that.
I think it's more just a badass quote from a
badass Yeah, like Deesel Washington, But I I think I'm
a little bit against the meeting maybe of what that
is and just getting back to what we were talking
about with this, the the impact of the influencers. I mean, yeah,
I don't really follow stuff like that with the limited
social Like I'm on the social media's but it's mostly
just for stupid, brain numbing things that I just find funny.
Sometimes you know, I'll be spamming you with some stupid
videos and you're in there. But yeah, I mean, I'm
sure it had an impact. I'm just because people have
these I sound so old right now, but because people
have the TikTok in front of them, like they're just
if they're scrolling and they just see some guy that
maybe they follow, is like talking super positive about Zoper Man,
It's like, oh fuck, okay, that's interesting, I'm interested in that.
Or or in terms of the Mayahawk example, like that
is kind of weird and grimy and not something I
like to hear it when it comes to them.
Speaker 1: That like something where I agree with Denzel though I'm
on the side of I don't think people the influencers
to say, hey, I'm Travis, I got one billion followers,
go see this movie.
Speaker 2: That might work.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it works to go, Hey, I'm
Travis one billion followers, come see me for this movie.
Because that's literally to pay to see me where I
can see you Travis Snell every day on Talk to You,
and that I don't think the I think the studios
are dead wrong about that that influencers with high follower
count will make people go to the movies.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But like I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna make what example is gonna make? But Jonathan
Bailey is that the chap's name?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: From Wicked and Jurassic Yeah from Jurassic Yeah, and the
Great Bridgerton. I also feel like just like the idea
of just showing people being fought, you know, Jimmy Eelsen,
but like just just just the impact of like popularity
on like people of just liking certain individuals, Like, Okay,
what you just said is one hundred percent true. It's
it's pay to pay to win, pay to pay to
see and you can just see me on whatever. But
like there's just crazy fandoms out there, Like if Taylor
Swift appears in that's the fucking James Guns next project,
that's gonna be a billion dollar movies just because the
Swift like the Swifties are just.
Speaker 1: Gonna imagine the Snipe pair.
Speaker 2: Swiss cast is one woman.
Speaker 3: My god, I was just taking a break from singing.
She she's doing the whole soundtrack.
Speaker 2: I said before, I don't want her to Actually now
she's directing movie. I won't. I don't mind chefs, but
I wanted to direct that movie. But you know what,
one woman.
Speaker 1: I'd say, worst case scenario, get her to be Barbara
Gordon and dire hair ginger, because then there's like a
whole different type of look she could do. She could
do a whole album with the ginger hair.
Speaker 2: It would be.
Speaker 3: A full great I'm down. I was. I was very
pro her being the dazzler. I'm not so much that
on anymore. I'm I'm more on the Sabrina camp for that.
But but like, seriously, though, like if if, even if
it's awful, Taylor Swift's this is crazy Rabbit fans, and
I feel like that is a that's a very unicorn example,
Like there's nobody quite like her at this point in time.
But yeah, I I I think there is some truth
to just like we're gonna get some more butts in
our seats. If we get some people that people are
following in their day to day I don't know, I
kind of went off off rails there. I'm kind of
speaking on something I don't know too much about because
I don't really have a finger on the pulse with that.
Speaker 2: But bring up this clip and then we're gonna do
more of these questions. If you don't know this. In
Dark Knight Rises, he clip is longer.
Speaker 3: This is forty seconds into the he.
Speaker 1: Makes a two face references like, oh, how did you
say that?
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I flipped a coin.
Speaker 3: So so he starts he's getting like his boots duine
or something. I just thought this was a funny place
to start.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm pretty sure Glen pal said he
got a concussion from this legitimly.
Speaker 3: Tom Hardy whose full method.
Speaker 1: Actor like he's massive, but this would be fun like
full circle for him to come Batman.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got a good little there. You know,
we get like a blonde Batman again, Like he said,
I got a game of concussion. Let's get so, oh,
let's see.
Speaker 3: I act just got knocked out there.
Speaker 2: We'll go ahead.
Speaker 1: I just said it's not beast get solid as a
slam dunk homewait success.
Speaker 2: It's good. It's gotta have good legs. Right now, it's
just a double.
Speaker 1: I agree, it's a double unless it has like a
sixty five percent drop next weekend.
Speaker 2: Then he got struck out on third base. Like second
weekend is very very important.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see. Oh milk toast this question.
A couple of years ago, we got anime Crypto. Now
we got a Superman movie. Soon there will be a
Supermo movie. When are they going to take another crack
at steal? Uh again, shut our, Patreon. That's shacky.
Speaker 2: I don't say no, no no for you that shack.
He is a very legendary Superman character. But I think.
Speaker 3: It's the one one source material I can pull from.
Speaker 1: I think if if the trajectory continues upwards, I could
see within the next ten years, because we're talking about
more Superman projects. That's another one where that's like another
meta human type of you're tum about Kirking, where you
can introduce somebody like I just sometimes he is yes sometimes,
especially in a storyline. They're one of the biggest storylines
called the Death Superman, and then a bunch of people
show up to try to take his place, not as
like a power struggle, but like I'm going to step
up in place of Superman. That is a big deal
for him. So there are storylines like that, So I
think it's it's successful. I feel like that's a character
James Gun would like to do and kind of redeem.
I'll say, what are we in twenty twenty five? So
barring no, you know, world crisis or another strike, I
feel confident saying we could see.
Speaker 2: That within the next ten years a steal. How do
you think of that. I'm not saying a still movie.
I'm saying steal the character.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was your percentage or no percentage?
Speaker 2: Just I said within ten years?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see it. You feel like you about
that though, I mean, we'll see if James Gun is
still around, you know, in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Well hopefully in DC. Hopefully there's around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, I hope he's living that you.
Speaker 2: I hope he's still around because you never knows.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, hopefully there's not an accident. On July's eighteenth, York.
Speaker 2: Says, oh, so we're good. Didn't mean to cut you off.
Speaker 3: I see nothing, keep going, Uh York.
Speaker 1: Excited for Supergirl because she gonna fight Lobo. Yeah, that's
gonna be fun. I think that Supergirl and Jason Momoa
is just gonna Lobo is just Jason Momoa in real
life is personality. I think that's gonna be tons of fun.
I think the same way people said they walked as
Superman with Hope, I think Supergirl funny enough. It's not
by James Gunn could have that Guardian store Ragonrock where
people come out and she's like, man, that was a
great time, even if it's a.
Speaker 2: Bit more of the you know, heavier side, I think
they could.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited for Mamoa's Lobo.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to hopefully get a great Momoa performance again
because it's been a little hot minute for me.
Speaker 2: It has been a minute Minecraft was was not it?
He definite?
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm going to do that to myself. No,
your video you shared of the great who was that?
Speaker 2: Even Kenny Omega exactly Grace Arrest of all time?
Speaker 3: You know Canadian? I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's from Winnipeg.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he feels like he's kind of like a
cash and know like he's in the Street Fire movie
coming up next.
Speaker 2: Have you heard about this?
Speaker 3: I probably did, but I forgot. I wiped it up.
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns and Cody Rhoades are also in it as
well too.
Speaker 3: I'm there, are you well?
Speaker 2: Ask Taylor and h Dynt because I doubt they'll be
into it.
Speaker 1: The Gimmick guys were like, well, that should be our
first debut of GV episode.
Speaker 2: So they join.
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: They said they'd like to join because I said, well,
I'll probably be alone, but if you want to be.
Speaker 3: You know, I would be there. I think that sounds perfect,
you know, barring timing. I'm not hopeful. I'm not a
killing scout or something like that. I'll be back guys
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift as wonder Woman, you do what you do?
Whereas Bro's next big films Doom Messiah, Yeah they got Yeah.
I was still at Warner.
Speaker 1: I was just talking about DC what they got going on.
Universal Pictures will bounce back with Wicked for good. Yeah,
I think I think that will be.
Speaker 2: They hit people like, you know, it seemed like Wicked
a lot.
Speaker 3: You saw your letter box score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoyed it more than I thought it would.
Speaker 1: I actually watched the first all I'll wait for Thursday, though,
we do what we've been watching.
Speaker 2: We talk about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, super Bike, say, is the last time in DC
movie beat Marvel yearly was The Dark Night two thousand
and eight, Kirkland.
Speaker 3: That's a hard one to beat, so good for them.
Speaker 1: But still which sucks because they even had like Joker,
which is a billion dollar movie, and still because that's
all right. In the same year, Endgame came out.
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, it's like we got it, and they brought
their their heavy hitter for that one, and yeah.
Speaker 1: Brought a clown to a gunfight. So that is crazy.
The Dark that's.
Speaker 2: Twenty so we're almost on twenty years.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm kind of pulling for them. Don't get
me wrong. I hope I like Fantastic four. I've never
been f four guy, but it'd be nice to see.
Kevin then says Disney will bounce back with Fantastic four
pread or Badlands Utopia after far Nash. Honestly, Kevin, I said,
you could just say they'll bounce back with Zootopian Avatar.
They don't even need Fantastic four or Preder bad Lands.
I think Preder bad Lands is gonna make like Alien
Robins money where it's like one fifty and f four.
I don't know, we'll wait for sure. Oh yeah that yeah,
I thought you meant F four. I'm like, no, there's
there's no cheap.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Sony Pictures will bounce back with Jamon G three
and spider Man Brandon Date.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so your ex Supergirl, not the Supergirl, not.
Speaker 1: Some female superman. She's superhuman, but she doesn't value humanity. Okay, cool?
Uh Detoll took your argument on spiy number one. That's okay,
I'm gonna ban him from the chat for a little bit.
Speaker 2: No, Milko says that the man to be no superhero genre.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, seventy eight was a big deal for that, right,
and go back on our patron. We reviewed all those
and we're doing a ranking. So r J you, Oh,
I thought you're gonna cop out. He said that they're my
top two or the top two, but then he says,
I think spider Man is slightly bigger than Madman right now,
but they're almost equal footing. Yeah, I guess to say
right now because even then what did Homecoming make? I
just want to see what was Holme's.
Speaker 2: First Spider Man movie box office versus.
Speaker 3: Over half a billion? Easy?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah, I don't get wrong
there it may okay, So I know even then that
made eight hundred and eighty million and The Batman made
seven to seventy, So yeah, i'd say right now.
Speaker 2: And I also think that helps with Tom Holland.
Speaker 1: I think he's another Selbarty people like I think people
like Robert Passing as well, but like Mickey seventeen didn't
perform right, So it's not like they're dying.
Speaker 3: Just like like the age demographic that those films are
geared towards is like Spidy is for all family members,
you know, like it's it's about kids, eat that up.
Whereas like are you bringing bringing your family to Batman's.
Speaker 2: Especially the Riddler? What are you showing me?
Speaker 3: That's what your kids would be asking you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
Speaker 1: And even though they were like still darker and more
talking heavy and crime heavy, the nolan Ones are way
more Because the nol Ones feel more like a big act.
You could I could see like, oh, this is a
big action movie where the Batman's a crime thriller. That's
not everyone's bag, you know, so Biltas says, strictly speaking,
there are four comic characters who the most recognizable world
War worldwide, super Bam, Batman, Sperman, and Archie.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: Archie, you're you're right, but he ain't clocking no billion dollars.
He I don't even know if he's clockings.
Speaker 3: Best wonder Woman's being the shit out of Archie.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, long Jeviany must be taken into account.
Superman has been around eighty seven years, Batman eighty six,
spider Man sixty three. A longer the longer character is around,
the more impact it has. Absolutely, Oh, I think, oh
more impacting thing like harder. I was gonna say, yes, say,
I don't know if Superman show on that, but let's
see here, anything relevant here, okase. Superma says, I feel
like an actor name organisition has gone down a lot
in the past few years. Most people I know would
have a hard time naming actor who gained prominence in
the past five years. Absolutely, and I think we've seen
now that. To me, it's not so much like, oh,
I'm gonna go see the Ryan Gosling movie. I think
it's oh Ryan Gosling is in Star Wars cool. I
think it's big brand and poplar actor put together, where
one without the other. It's tough to Star Wars. Like
you look at Force Awakens, that was different based on
like a bunch of I'd say no names in there,
but I think that's what it is. You need people
paired with the right property. But like for sure, like
like a Fall guy that bomb last year, right, So
that showed us right there that people won't just go see.
But Ryan Glossing and Barbie, you know, one of the
biggest movies this decade.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, not like I was. I was gonna say, like,
there definitely is still names that even general members get
excited for. Like I feel like Pedro is in like
a really good run right now, Pedro Pascal of like
people that aren't necessarily I find like they're watching all
the projects that oh yeah Pedro, Oh yeah he's in
this project.
Speaker 2: Or right, can he get a blockbuster? Now? Can he?
Can he get to that level of being the guy?
You know?
Speaker 1: And I don't know because last of us, I think
that's a big reason why that showing down rating wise,
because he's gone and.
Speaker 3: You know, created for three episodes, is that true?
Speaker 1: Nominated for Emmy as a lead for that some fucking
crime right there?
Speaker 3: For him man, I don't know. Yeah, good for hid
him in the system.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, age of the movie starts seems to be
in the client. Yeah, absolutely, kim Da says, when do
you think we'll get the Mandalorian movie trailer?
Speaker 2: Will come out? Uh?
Speaker 1: So that comes out in May if it's not out
before on Avatar in December. I think Avatar biggest year probably.
Speaker 3: I was thinking winter months. December feels late for like,
I guess not really.
Speaker 1: January, favorite March, April, five months. Yeah, maybe maybe you
get a teaser before. But the full trailers on avatarat.
Speaker 3: Man take a long time to get a trailer drop.
Speaker 2: No super yeah did you remember that?
Speaker 1: Some people criticized that that took very like the in
between was very short. So I feel like with Mando,
you you take some time. Let no, But I think,
no matter what, there's gonna be at least a trailer
on Avatar. Everything's gonna be on Avatar, you know, I agree,
gonna be fucking cap the hat on there.
Speaker 2: Watch that ten times?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, people give me the one here. Have
you seen the fucking cab hat trailer? I'm so fearful
my kids are gonna ask me to see that. We'd
watch that Superman I. I was like, I looked over you.
Speaker 2: Come on, there's some of these.
Speaker 3: You just look You're like, oh fuck, this is so yeah,
I hadn't seen it. Well, it must have been either
it was a dressic worlder suit. Man, I can't saw it. Yeah, yeah,
so I Taylor, I'm like, what even is this some
Sitting next to Taylor, He's like, oh can in the hat?
And just by his tone, I'm like, oh oh no,
Like it's it's kind of reminded me of the latest Grinch,
Like it's definitely not the best Grinch movie, but I
still enjoyed it. But then I'm watching the trailer and man,
I just saw my bar and my hype going down
to ground zero.
Speaker 2: That brutal.
Speaker 3: It was very brutal. What is Bill later doing?
Speaker 2: This is the first thing after Barry?
Speaker 1: And like, here's the thing. I didn't love that Grinch movie.
I think it's just like a solid six out of ten.
But even the trailers, I was like, oh, this looks good.
This can hat if the trailers are looking bad. Oh no,
what's happening here? Says At the early screening Superman, they
played all trailers, went to video saying welcome to the screening,
went to black, and then it was the hat trailer
people food. Oh my god, that's great. Yeah, so it's funny. Kirk,
and you said we were expecting to get thank you
to James Gunn. Apparently on the early screenings they did
do the Tom Cruise thank you for being here for
Superman and stuff, so they did get it.
Speaker 2: We didn't get it, but.
Speaker 3: We got a film one of those like even as
a joke, we're gonna.
Speaker 2: No, we're good. I got a project for it that'd
be proud you all. I can't hit a.
Speaker 3: Couple of months prompt to.
Speaker 1: York, says He's said, or they're tired of the death
of Superman. Yeah, I don't think you do, because I
think they just did that in that Lowest Clerk show.
Obviously Snyder did that. I think you stay away from
that for a vic, kind of like Dark Phoenix for Marble,
like give it, give it a break, you know.
Speaker 3: Do you think they're gonna do a Captain Marble thing
with Superman where he's just like I gotta go, I
gotta do space threats, and he's just that's kind of
what like it's different than him just dying Andris.
Speaker 2: Like to keep him at certain threats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if we're if we're a couple movies into
this new DCU and like, why is Superman just not
here and it's like he's doing Wonder Woman's or sorry
Captain Marvel.
Speaker 4: He sorry Lowis I know, I think because not the unfortunate,
but the issue you have with him is he's right
now the main character.
Speaker 1: Where Captain Marvel wasn't right she was coming on the
tailing of the Avengers. It would have been like if
Downy right.
Speaker 2: Away was like, hey, I'm gonna be off time some time.
Speaker 1: But also you gotta remember, minus spoilers, they've made this
Superman a lot more.
Speaker 2: Deep power than other Superman.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's as true godly I think talking.
Speaker 2: But I was putting out there he was, yeah, millennial Superman.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see Kevin days off topic all answer. Do
you think this Olsen Chris Evans will make an appearance
in Doomsday? Yes, Evans Olsen, I'm iffy on but I
could see at least an end credits.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say yes for both.
Speaker 3: For now, I'll say yes, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: H Do you think what Titia Wright's gonna be Black
Panther going forward? I do not.
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna hand it off to whoever they.
I think they're gonna work in a Oh, this is
from a different universe, and that's how people won't get
mad about Chatwick. So I do I think if you
get a black pant I don't know, because do you
think it will be still Black Panther?
Speaker 3: Like off screen she handed it off. I think she's
still gonna be a Black Panthers.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I mean. Yeah, I agree that.
Speaker 1: It's just a question of when we get to Black
Panther three, will she be the black Panther.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, yeah, because like why set up baby
Chachalla if we're not gonna make him black Panther eventually? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That or a multiverse ones, I agree, And then milk
To says a Starleard s Superman adventure could work.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I've been down. We've not got I don't
know if we need grams.
Speaker 1: But I we've not gone like a big superman in
space all over. Right, So, and I know people want brainiacs,
so maybe that'd be a way to go.
Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's take into that break and get
some questions and then we can get to other topics.
Speaker 2: So we'll be right back