Speaker 1: This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini cast.
Speaker 2: So we have this situation, obviously where Democratic Party socialism
Speaker 2: is on the rise, and it's all interesting to me
Speaker 2: that they don't deny it. The big tent. Chuck Schumer says,
Speaker 2: welcome to the big tent. The woman who lost in Michigan, Stevens,
Speaker 2: the congresswoman who was backed by the party regulars, Gretchen
Speaker 2: Whitmer and so forth, she just endorsed the guy. After
Speaker 2: calling him every name in the book during the campaign,
Speaker 2: she turns around endorses them. And of course Senator Schumer,
Speaker 2: whom I know personally, and I don't do personal stuff,
Speaker 2: but you know, he has not stood up for the
Speaker 2: anti semitism of these new socialists. President Trump in the
Speaker 2: center from Palestine. Maybe that's cruel, I don't, but the
Speaker 2: fact of the matter is he doesn't seem to be
Speaker 2: very critical. It doesn't seem to be critical period. So
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the politics of this from
Speaker 2: the Democratic side, and can the Republicans beat the socialists
Speaker 2: in the midterms. That's the key point, isn't it. So
Speaker 2: let's bring in Ben Ferguson, host of the Ben Ferguson
Speaker 2: Podcast and co host of the Verdict with Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: podcast I Love Ted Cruz, by the way, and my
Speaker 2: pal Joe Conscious, Fox News contributor and WABC Radio host
Speaker 2: of The Joe Conscious Show nine to ten pm nightly
Speaker 2: and on Sundays eleven am to noon. Gentlemen, welcome Joe Conscious.
Speaker 2: Start with you. Do you find it odd that after
Speaker 2: the so called party regulars, the Democratic Party, who themselves
Speaker 2: are very far the left nowadays, but they beat up
Speaker 2: on these people. I mean, let's take Alsayet, It's a
Speaker 2: perfect example. After calling him every name in the book,
Speaker 2: they wind up indorsing them, and they talk about a
Speaker 2: big tent and have big ten is like a socialist
Speaker 2: tent now. But I mean they will not They will
Speaker 2: not smack them down, They will not fight them, Joe.
Speaker 2: That's the odd thing of this story.
Speaker 3: You know why, Larry, Because like the old sins who
Speaker 3: rule used to say that every war is won before
Speaker 3: it has never fought, right, And in this case.
Speaker 4: I got that from Wall Street. Actually, well played, Jared,
Speaker 4: well played.
Speaker 2: Trying to a clever such a clever.
Speaker 4: But it's true though, right because here the E word right,
Speaker 4: we always hear about the F word. No, the e
Speaker 4: word is well establishment. If your establishment, you will be
Speaker 4: another word, and that is extinct in the Democrat Party
Speaker 4: because these socialists, Yeah, they hate Macca, they hate Trump,
Speaker 4: they hate capitalism, but they hate I think even more
Speaker 4: establishment Democrats and they will wipe them out and Chuck
Speaker 4: Schumer will be target number one. Elsi ed has said
Speaker 4: that he will not endorse Schumer being the leader of
Speaker 4: the party if they take back the Senate, and many
Speaker 4: others have said that as well from the socialist wing
Speaker 4: of the party. So yeah, Schumer says that I would
Speaker 4: think if I'm Chuck Schumer, go down fighting, say, you
Speaker 4: know what, this is not the Democrat Party. I know,
Speaker 4: this is not the Democrat Party of Bill Clinton, for example,
Speaker 4: that work with new Gingridge when he was the Speaker
Speaker 4: of the House nineteen ninety five to pass welfare reform
Speaker 4: balance budget amendments. The era of big government is over.
Speaker 4: Like the type of things that if a Democrat said
Speaker 4: that today, they would be the word ostracized. Right, It's
Speaker 4: just completely thrown out of the party. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: think in the end, the establishment is scared of the socialists.
Speaker 4: They have the money, the organization, and the power, the
Speaker 4: momentum certainly. So therefore they say big ten. But as
Speaker 4: Bill Maher, the last sensible person in liberal media, said,
Speaker 4: you know what you get into Big ten, you get clowns.
Speaker 4: And that's what we have here, clowns who have no
Speaker 4: idea what they're talking about. It's all about the working class.
Speaker 4: Yet it's a bunch of rich kids like Mendanni or
Speaker 4: else I ed, who have no idea actually had a government,
Speaker 4: certainly don't need anything about economics the way Larry Kuplow
Speaker 4: does that I do know.
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to say, you know, we're in
Speaker 2: New York based station, although it's a national and international broadcast.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Chuck Schumer a long long time,
Speaker 2: and so we have our political difference. We have major
Speaker 2: political differences, but on a personal basis, I don't want
Speaker 2: to insult him. I just don't understand the very questions
Speaker 2: that you're asking why he doesn't stand up among other things,
Speaker 2: Ben ferguson the economics are bad. I'm going to read
Speaker 2: off the list of the DSA platform in just a
Speaker 2: moment from Kim Strassel's excellent Wall Street Journal column. But
Speaker 2: the thing that is so heartbreaking about this is the
Speaker 2: latent anti Semitism that seems to animate the socialists coming up,
Speaker 2: you know, the l saied socialists, And he hangs around
Speaker 2: with this guy Hassan and so forth. And you know,
Speaker 2: Sena Schumer, He's not the only one. But he's been
Speaker 2: in politics a very, very long time. He's given public service. Again,
Speaker 2: I have huge political differences with him, but in some sense,
Speaker 2: as the leading Jewish politician in the country, he was
Speaker 2: the minority leader of the Senate, he was the majority
Speaker 2: leader of the Senate, et cetera, et cetera. He has
Speaker 2: a long career and his accomplishments distinguish him in that
Speaker 2: long career. Even though I disagree with his politics, It
Speaker 2: just it breaks my heart that he doesn't stand up
Speaker 2: and just blast them for this incredible anti Semitism, which
Speaker 2: is hatred and bigotry. Ben and you know the story.
Speaker 2: It'll be Catholics next, or it'll be African Americans, It'll
Speaker 2: be Hispanics, isn't now what history proves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, I think I think there's two choices here
Speaker 1: the way to look at this. Either one Chuck Schumer
Speaker 1: is straight up the end of his career a coward
Speaker 1: because he refused to stand up to the people within
Speaker 1: his own party that were anti Semites. If you can't
Speaker 1: stand up to Hassan Piker and al said, and say
Speaker 1: an individual who says that America deserved nine to eleven
Speaker 1: when you're the New York Senator, if that is not
Speaker 1: enough for you to stand up and say I've had
Speaker 1: enough of this, then I got to thank Either you
Speaker 1: believe these people and you want them to get elected
Speaker 1: and you're secretly in lying about what you believe in
Speaker 1: your entire career, or you are straight up coward, because
Speaker 1: that isn't even politics. Hassan Piker said, America deserve nine
Speaker 1: to eleven. Hassan Piker is out there advocating, supporting El said,
Speaker 1: and no one will denounce that. You look at it
Speaker 1: from that perspective. And here's the other thing about Chuck Schumer.
Speaker 1: Leaders lead cowards always just fold. He folded to keeping
Speaker 1: AOC in line because he was so afraid that she
Speaker 1: was going to primary him that she had. He was like,
Speaker 1: whatever you want, whatever you want, and that's how you
Speaker 1: got this communism and Marxism and socialism to fester in
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Now, I also go back to Barack Obama.
Speaker 1: I believe that the majority of the Democratic Party is
Speaker 1: in favor of socialism and communism. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the leadership because if you look at the policies, just
Speaker 1: specifically on the Green New Deals, specifically on them saying
Speaker 1: openly that they wanted to force Americans into alternative energy,
Speaker 1: and they wanted to force you to pay the prices
Speaker 1: that we were paying, which was eight nine dollars a
Speaker 1: gallon in Europe. That is communism and socialism. And now
Speaker 1: you look at at Schumer, another guy where I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you believe in what you believe in, as you
Speaker 1: claim throughout your career, how do you not stand up
Speaker 1: to this idea of taking private property and rent control
Speaker 1: and all of the things that Mundani is in favor of.
Speaker 1: So you got anti semitism. He shows stood up on
Speaker 1: he who cowered on that. You have a guy that
Speaker 1: says we deserve nine to eleven. He cowered on that.
Speaker 1: You've got property rights issues, and you cowered down on
Speaker 1: that one. And you said, you know what, as long
Speaker 1: as I keep power for maybe just a few more years,
Speaker 1: then I'm willing to throw all of my values out
Speaker 1: the window. And I think ultimately the reason why you
Speaker 1: keep seeing him say we have a big broad tent.
Speaker 1: Is because the majority of the Democratic leadership. I actually
Speaker 1: think they believe what is being sold right now. They
Speaker 1: just are smart enough to say, hey, we can't say
Speaker 1: it all the time. We can't tell the American people
Speaker 1: we want to steal their property every day. So they're
Speaker 1: just trying to whitewash it. But I don't think to
Speaker 1: have an issue with it.
Speaker 2: You know on that point. Victor Davis Hanson brilliant guy. Obviously,
Speaker 2: he wrote a long piece. I had him on the
Speaker 2: TV show a couple of days ago, but he wrote
Speaker 2: a long piece sort of chronicling the rise of the
Speaker 2: socialists inside the Democratic Party. Remember Bernie Sanders who runs
Speaker 2: by the way as an independent, but he calls himself
Speaker 2: a socialist. I don't know how he gets away with that.
Speaker 2: But in any event, what Victor was saying was go
Speaker 2: back to twenty sixteen, right, and the Democratic primaries. Senator
Speaker 2: Senator Sanders won, I don't know twenty two or twenty
Speaker 2: three primaries. He was beating Hillary Clinton until party elders
Speaker 2: had to step in, and would have been beating Joe
Speaker 2: Biden in the same way until the party leaders had
Speaker 2: to step in South Carolina. In other words, they've been
Speaker 2: festering and fostering this for many years. You go back
Speaker 2: to Barack Obama, who didn't lift a finger against them,
Speaker 2: and when he was president. They've been nurturing them for
Speaker 2: a long time. We just didn't see it, I guess,
Speaker 2: or maybe it didn't, you know, it didn't pop up with.
Speaker 1: Such clasttle feeding them literally from the moment they were
Speaker 1: I think this was created. They bottle fed them, Larry,
Speaker 1: and then they matured them, and then they nurtured them,
Speaker 1: and then they raised money for them, and then they
Speaker 1: advocated for them to take over it. They didn't stop it.
Speaker 1: And even in like extreme cases, you look at what
Speaker 1: happened in Minnesota, you look at what happened with the
Speaker 1: fraud there, they still haven't denounced that, because this is
Speaker 1: how you take over a country.
Speaker 2: You know, Joe think of it this way. A lot
Speaker 2: of people argued, we all probably argued, I don't know
Speaker 2: that the Joe Biden administration was the Bernie Sanders administration.
Speaker 2: It was populated with his people and his ideas, which
Speaker 2: I point to with twenty one point four percent cumulative
Speaker 2: inflation as a perfect example of the failure of the
Speaker 2: socialist experiment. But the point is it was the Joe
Speaker 2: Biden didn't have his own people, he didn't have his
Speaker 2: own ideas. I don't know what he had. It was
Speaker 2: the Bernie Sanders administration. He Biden was their puppet, and
Speaker 2: so all this stuff, right, I mean, this has been
Speaker 2: festering for years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you wonder why Democrats wanted Joe Biden
Speaker 4: to stay in office, because well, he wasn't there, right,
Speaker 4: the elevator wasn't going to the penthouse anymore. Therefore he
Speaker 4: was controllable. And therefore, to your point, you could put
Speaker 4: in all these people, all these radicals, to run the
Speaker 4: country without getting one vote, and that was by design,
Speaker 4: I think ultimately. Now you mentioned Barack Obama before, by
Speaker 4: the way, like you know, during his administration, how you
Speaker 4: know he allowed this to fester bottle feeds, Ben said,
Speaker 4: And that's a great analogy. But have we heard from
Speaker 4: Barack Obama. He's apparently the party leader still at least
Speaker 4: as far as name recognition, in terms of the guy
Speaker 4: that you call first, in terms of endorsements, he has
Speaker 4: not said a keep about this because he's a coward. Also,
Speaker 4: he doesn't know what to do here right, because he
Speaker 4: knows that if he denounces this, then he is toast
Speaker 4: as far as Democrats, especially young Democrats, are concerned. And
Speaker 4: he hasn't said anything about this, and that tells you
Speaker 4: a lot about Barack Obama, who's never met a microphone.
Speaker 4: He isn't willing to talk to about anything, and now
Speaker 4: he's silent on this. I think the bottom line is, though,
Speaker 4: and I know you got to go to breaksaw. I'll
Speaker 4: wrap this up quickly. If l SIID wins in Michigan,
Speaker 4: then AOC is your nominee. Like that's the connection. A
Speaker 4: win state wade in a purple state. Right, Trump's won
Speaker 4: there twice. Then therefore they say this is working, Let's
Speaker 4: put out AOC as the nominee. If it doesn't work there,
Speaker 4: then maybe they go back to establishment. Maybe, but I
Speaker 4: don't even think so there. I think in the end,
Speaker 4: if your establishment, you are not going to win in
Speaker 4: this party because the primaries are such where the far
Speaker 4: left comes out in big numbers and if you want
Speaker 4: to win there, you're going to run to the fire left.
Speaker 4: And that's why Kamala Harris right now, who wants to
Speaker 4: be the nominee, is talking about blowing up to the
Speaker 4: Electoral College and the Supreme Court because that's what the
Speaker 4: DSA wants to hear. It's a mess, let's face it.
Speaker 4: And I think in the end, you put Marco Rubio
Speaker 4: or jd. Vance on stage with any of these people
Speaker 4: during a debate during the presidential you know, campaign, and
Speaker 4: it'll be like Mike Tyson versus Mike Sphinx in nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty eight. It will be over ninety one seconds, because
Speaker 4: that's how radical these ideas are.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben, you know, Ben No, I got
Speaker 2: to take a break. Joe's right, but I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2: And when I think about the last sentence there from Joe,
Speaker 2: you put them in the ring. To me, the free
Speaker 2: enterpriser who whips them is Ted Cruz.
Speaker 4: I hope you're right.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm just I'm not.
Speaker 4: You know, ain't going to happen.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're right. And it's August of twenty six,
Speaker 2: so it's a very long stones throw from any of that.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, given the stuff that jd Vance
Speaker 2: had said, now, Marco Rubio better, no question, But the
Speaker 2: real free enterpriser in the Republican Party, the leadership is
Speaker 2: Ted Cruise. Anyway, we'll take a quick break. I understand
Speaker 2: that's somewhat controversial, even mischievous point of view. We're talking
Speaker 2: to Joe Concha, who was I'm w ABC radio host
Speaker 2: of the Joe Conscience Show and Ben Ferguson and the
Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson Podcast. I'm Cudler. We'll be right back, man.
Speaker 2: We're talking about tics. Joe Concha, Fox News, WABC Radio,
Speaker 2: host of the Joe Conscia Show nine to ten pm
Speaker 2: every night and on Sundays he's eleven am to noon.
Speaker 2: And Ben Ferguson is hosted the Ben Ferguson Podcast and
Speaker 2: coch Eric with Ted Cruz podcast. Gentlemen, welcome back. Can
Speaker 2: somebody run down for me? I'm not sure I really
Speaker 2: understand this. Maybe Joe, I'll start with you. Burrito Gate?
Speaker 2: What was going on this week about Burrito's. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I understand the meaning of this.
Speaker 4: It's funny. I you know, I was on vacation for
Speaker 4: most of the week, and then I did a radio
Speaker 4: interview yesterday and somebody bought that up. And honestly, while
Speaker 4: I'm being asked the question, I googled burrito Gate. Yes,
Speaker 4: I really had heard of it, and I didn't want
Speaker 4: to sound like an idiot, you know, on this particular
Speaker 4: radio show. Apparently burritos are very expensive now, and in
Speaker 4: some cases they're twenty dollars. I've never had a burrito
Speaker 4: in my life, so I don't I can't give you
Speaker 4: any context around that, but I'm pretty sure twenty bucks
Speaker 4: for anything that you eat is probably not good, especially
Speaker 4: when it's fast food. So I think it is that
Speaker 4: in the end, if burritos are expensive, therefore everything's expensive. Therefore,
Speaker 4: socialists are getting this momentum because they could say that
Speaker 4: they are the working class party that can make things
Speaker 4: affordable again again. You bought it up before. It's either
Speaker 4: Ben or Larry. I forget around inflation under Biden, when
Speaker 4: Democrats had total control and they passed the Inflation Reduction Act,
Speaker 4: and that pushed inflation to a level we haven't seen
Speaker 4: since Raiders of the Lost Arc nineteen eighty one. You've
Speaker 4: got to go all the way back there to find
Speaker 4: nine percent inflation. And now these people have the audacity.
Speaker 4: They're on, well, we're gonna make things affordable again. Well,
Speaker 4: you already had your at bat, and I'm pretty sure
Speaker 4: you struck out on three pecks.
Speaker 2: That was my point. That was twenty We gave them
Speaker 2: the baton under Biden, and he did twenty one point
Speaker 2: four percent inflation cumulatively over the four year period, and
Speaker 2: they use that. The inflation rate today is about depending
Speaker 2: on how you measure it, it's three and a half percent,
Speaker 2: and if you take out the temporary energy bump, it's
Speaker 2: about two and a half percent. It's not twenty one
Speaker 2: percent or it's not nine percent one year. So it's
Speaker 2: a you know, Ben, it's a ruse. They use that
Speaker 2: to cover up the rest of it because they don't
Speaker 2: want to talk about here. I'm going to read Kim
Speaker 2: strassel dsa agenda public ownership of large corporations and essential industries,
Speaker 2: wealth taxes, defund the Department of War, publicly owned social housing,
Speaker 2: abolishing police and prisons, abolishing the Senate, packing the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about that stuff, so they
Speaker 2: talk about burritos.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, this goes back to the egg conversation. Remember
Speaker 1: we were arguing over how extensive eggs had gotten under Biden,
Speaker 1: and then they came down and then But I do
Speaker 1: think there is a cautionary til here. Do you remember
Speaker 1: the guy that ran for office under the platform of
Speaker 1: the rent is too damn high? You remember that guy?
Speaker 1: Like it was so simplistic and it was laughable, but
Speaker 1: then it connected. And this is where I would say
Speaker 1: the Republicans that are running for office, don't get too
Speaker 1: arrogant because the price of goods are too high right
Speaker 1: now the majority of hard working Americans. I mean, the
Speaker 1: other day we went to five guys and got not
Speaker 1: the full burger, the little burgers. For my family, it
Speaker 1: was almost ninety dollars for a fry and five burgers.
Speaker 1: That is a point. That's the point where I looked
Speaker 1: at my wife and I'm like, we didn't get drinks.
Speaker 1: It was eighty four dollars in change. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what world are we living in? Where I and I
Speaker 1: work hard, I make a good living. But even there's
Speaker 1: a line for me in my mind where I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is fast food asque and I'm spending ninety dollars
Speaker 1: like this is insane. And so the point that was
Speaker 1: being made about the brito is if it cost you
Speaker 1: twenty dollars for a burrito, that's to go. There's a
Speaker 1: bigger concern out there in the minds of consumers of
Speaker 1: who is going to advocate for me, my family and
Speaker 1: get prices down. And so I think we can you know,
Speaker 1: you can laugh at the at the hypocrisy of the
Speaker 1: media and the left on burrito, get no doubt about it,
Speaker 1: But we also have to understand that that is what
Speaker 1: I describe as a big warning sign. Well, that's what
Speaker 1: I want to talk the issue. Yeah, you got to talk.
Speaker 1: That's why I want you.
Speaker 2: I want a tax cutting budget. I want to spending
Speaker 2: man tax cutting budget, which the GOP senators have simply
Speaker 2: not delivered. I mean, people do want more money in
Speaker 2: their pockets. That's the Republican affordability. Now. Trump did that
Speaker 2: brilliantly in the election with no tax on tips and overtime,
Speaker 2: brilliant But you know, what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 2: And that's the way I saw the burrito story. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're right, GOP has got to have its own response
Speaker 2: here to that issue of affordability, which you know, unfortunately
Speaker 2: with the energy prices and gasoline up not up as
Speaker 2: high as Biden It was about five and a half dollars,
Speaker 2: but it is over four dollars. It should be closer
Speaker 2: to three dollars. GOP's got to respond to that.
Speaker 4: I gotta have some, that's everything. Yeah, the gas prices
Speaker 4: are such a big thing. I mean I just drove.
Speaker 4: I'm literally driving while I'm interviewing with you. It's three
Speaker 4: ninety five, which is okay, it's blow four dollars, but
Speaker 4: I ain't three where it used to be.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, every it's a tax.
Speaker 4: On everyone, and I'm sorry the party in power is
Speaker 4: going to be blamed for that. And then you point
Speaker 4: to a round one thing. That's the reason why, and
Speaker 4: that may be why you have a problem in November.
Speaker 4: I mean, it definitely is why you have a problem
Speaker 4: in November.
Speaker 2: Joe Concha. You can get a nine to ten pm
Speaker 2: every ninth Sundays eleven to twelve and Ben Ferguson and
Speaker 2: the Ben Ferguson Podcast. Thank you, gentlemen. Very good folks.
Speaker 2: I'm cud Low. We gonna take a break and look
Speaker 2: at the economy in some detail after this, please stick around.
Speaker 2: Lots more cooking