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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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Speaker 2: Scary Era Era is the Irish or Gaelic word for Ireland.

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Paranormal means all the things that are impossible to explain

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by non natural forces or by science, and Ireland is

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steep and lower ghosts, blood, sweat, tears, sacrifice, hunger, desperation

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and charm. Oh and the paranormal. Welcome to Scary Era,

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Mark Manning, come in, Come in, you poor old craters

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and warm your hands by the fire Faultyes, juck, no

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doubt you're all busy. And the run up to Christmas

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and a gigantic Merry Christmas to all my scary air

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of listeners and to everyone on the Paranormal Radio UK Network.

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Stick around because in a moment the Squire will enlighten

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you with a disturbing story of what was known as

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a dollarcker back in the dark Year's a gouty, ill

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doubling tale. My brother Nile and former airline captain gets

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a UFO UAP mentioned shortly, and I'll be chatting with

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Jenny Sullivan, the charming lady who Frontstrahat has Emerald Dial

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paranormal group. Sadly hear about the last woman to be

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hanged in County Carlo Jail, The Tragic Lucinda sly read

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for us by the radiant Sarah Campbell voiceover and Northern

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Ireland radio personality, and shall we bend the rules as well?

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Just to Tadaway is Scotland and Squattish author and businessman

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Nick Clark shares a true ghost story from his native

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Glasgow and his life circa nineteen eighty four, And that'll

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be narrated by fellow Scotland comedian Billy Kirkwood. Strap yourselves

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in now UFOs or UAPs as they're generally called nowadays

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in relation to Ireland. Do I have any stories for you?

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The short answer is no, And then I thought, have

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I anything for the guy's ufo? Wise, my brother retired

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a few years ago from a forty plus year career

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as an airline captain. But anyway, he said to me

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what UFOs? I said, yeah, any stories at all? I

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mean you're flying all time zones at the hour of

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midnight right into the early morning, we small hours. Did

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you ever see anything? And he said absolutely, a resounding no.

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I didn't I need a sip of his coffee, and

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a kind of dreamy look came over his face and

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he went, do you know what, Mark, Actually, I do

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have one story for you, and you won't believe where

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it happened. It happened as we were on approach into

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Dublin Airport over the Irish scene. Places in the world.

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I've flown right around the world, the only thing I

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can think about was this. They said. It was like

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the late seventies or early eighties, and myself and my

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co pilot were approaching for landing into Dublin Airport one night.

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He came down over the Irish Sea and we were

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a little bit out, he said, Suddenly the entire cockpit

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lit up with glow points. He said it was like

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do you remember those old disco glitter balls. You'd see

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them in the old nineteen thirties, forties fifties ballrooms, the

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big ball and when it would rotate, the shimmering little lights.

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He said, the entire cockpit lit up with those shimmering

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and swirling around. And he said, I said to my copilot,

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is there someone down there using a laser? Because it

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was around the time they were beginning to get popular

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that the handheld blazers, and the copilot said, no way,

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there's too many lights. This is mad. So all over

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their uniforms and all around a cockpit, this thing kept

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shimmering and swirling and swelling, and they are busy guys.

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They've got to land in aircraft, so they concentrated on that,

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and by the time they were nearly landing, the whole

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thing had just disappeared and they were back to normal.

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So there you go. He's retired now in Vietnam and

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the last outfit he flew for many years, the biggest

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passenger jet in the world, the Airbus A three eighty

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for Emirates. That's what he was at. What a full

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life he's had. So yeah, that wasn't so much his

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UFO story as his UAP story Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena. I

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recently had the pleasure of interviewing author Kiron Fanning, who

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just published a new book called Haunted Ireland, an Atlas

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of ghost stories for every county in Ireland. Here's an

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excerpt called The Dollacker, read by the Squire aka David

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Speaker 3: Story begins with the murder of a young woman in

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the Liberties. The killer, a man called Olaca, was soon arrested,

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try and sentenced to death by hanging. He was held

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in the most secure cell in the Black Dog prison. However,

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he managed to avoid the news by taking his own life.

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An expecting crowd waited at Gallows Road now Baggett Street

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for the cart that would deliver the prison to his execution.

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They protested loudly when they heard the news that Olacar

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had killed himself. So they wanted a hanging, They wanted

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a spectacle. They wanted to see justice done. The prison

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authorities were severely criticized for allowing such a thing to happen,

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and though an investigation was carried out, they couldn't explain

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how it at the court. The following day, a prison

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guard was found unconscious in the Black Dog. One side

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of his body was parallelized and his clothes were in tatos.

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When he came to, he recounted being attacked by a

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dark beast in Olocar's cell. He described the demon as

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being half human, half black pig. Rumors spread that it

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was the angry spirit of the recently deceased prisoner Olako.

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Prison staff became nervous actually at night. One night About

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a week later, another prison guard went to relieve his colleague,

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a man called Carolyn, who had been on sentry duty,

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only to find the man's clothes and musket at his post,

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with no sign of the century himself. The Olaga gasped

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the guard, rushing off to alert the authorities. The Olaga

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must have devoured him. The prison was searched extensively, but

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no trace of the missing sentry could be found, and

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now the inmates and staff became convinced that the Black

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Dog was haunted by the ghosts of Olaga. Many of

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the guards were too terrified to walk the night shift

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alone and had to be paired up with a companion.

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News of the demonic spirit that haunted the prison soon

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trickled out beyond its high walls, and it wasn't long

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before there was a report of the monster assaulting a

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lady on the streets of the capitol. The city authorities

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called the woman before the magistrate to give a full

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account of the alleged attack. I was walking the lamb

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by Christchurch, laying me Lord, minding me on business now,

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said the woman, when it was jagged into an ally

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Bia Farles just monster, Can you describe your attacker wend

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me Lord. He had the body in the shape of

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a man, but he had the black pig's head with

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tusks and all. The magistrate dipped his pen into ink

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and scratched the details and the parchment. What happened next, Well, Millard,

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I kicked and pudged and screamed, didn't I My cloak

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got caught and one of the creature's tusks. Give me

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the chance to leg it? And you say you know

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the name of your attacker. The woman nodded. Dolla. Do

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you mean Olka, asked the magistrate. Yeah, that's what I said, Dollarca.

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in Hell and the surrounding areas. There were attacks to

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always at night, and always on loan women. Dublins were

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consumed by fear, and women stopped going out alone. After that,

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the Dollaca became the talk of the city, and in

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a tavern in Hell and Me eating was called by

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a group of men to see what could be done.

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We say, we am open killed the beasts, said a

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man with long hair. The crowd cheered in agreement, banging

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their whiskeys on the counter. How will we find the

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mask and all the man we know? He looks like

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a pig, said the man with a scar above his eyebrow.

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But how do we find one pig in a city

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full of them? By killing every single one of them,

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replied the man with the scar. The crowd cheered this

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proposal and agreed to a city wide cull of all pigs.

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gathered at the gate a hell and with the weapons

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of all sorts. Squeals filled the air as the vigilantes

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swept through the city, slaughtering every pig they could find.

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they secretly hoped that the cult might put an end

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to the Dolloker's reign of terror. They decided to help

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by organizing cats to collect the dead pigs. However, when

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the cats arrived the next morning, the carcasses had all

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mysteriously disappeared. Though city officials never found the carcasses, the

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cold seemed to have walked because there was no more

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sightings of the Dolloca that winter, The vigilante celebrated their

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victory for many nights in the whiskey houses of Hell.

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returned to normal. The following winter, however, the dolaca returned.

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A young woman was passing wood key when she was

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pulled into Fisher's Alley by a man with a pig's head,

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but she managed to escape. Horse storry reawakened terror in

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the city, and once again women stopped walking the streets alone.

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was visiting a widow who lived near Hell. He was

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very fond of her and was hoping to one day

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propose to her. He was a large man with strong

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arms from a lifetime of betting a hammer off an anvil.

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The widow poured him a whiskey and filled him in

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on the latest news of the dolaka. The blacksmith downed

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his drink and held out his lass for another. I

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thought he disappeared, he had said, the widow, pouring another whiskey.

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But now he's back, so you'd better be careful on

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your way home. I think I'm safe enough, he laughed.

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scoffed the widow. Let him attack me if he wants,

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I'll teach him with a thing or two. He held

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up his two huge fists and shadow punched the air

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like a box off. The widow laughed and poured herself

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a drink. A few whiskeys let out. The city bells

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rang out for midnight. I'd best be going, said the blacksmith.

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Don't want to run into this dollocoffella. The widow smiled.

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When the blacksmith opened the door to leave, he realized

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that it was pouring rain. I didn't bring me cloak,

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coming hat with me? The widow dashed back inside and

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returned with a cloak, which she wrapped around his shoulders.

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Take mine, but it's a woman's cloak. She pulled the

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Speaker 3: The blacksmith pulled at the bonnet's ribbon. What if someone

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sees me it's raining and it's dark, he's going to

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see you, said the widow, trying not the laugh of

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the blacksmith, who looked so ridiculous in our clothes. She

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kissed him quickly, then pushed him out the door. He

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was so stunned to get a kiss that he stood

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there loss forwards, with the rains ripping off of his

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freely bonnet. Go on, call the widow, closing the door,

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see you next week. The blacksmith pulled the cloak around

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him with one hand and held the bonnet down with

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the other. Though he knew he looked silly, he was

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glad of the protection against the elements. Pulled his head down.

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He began walking through the rain, his boots slapping the puddles.

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The streets were deserted and lit only by an occasional

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lamp whose light reflected off the wet couples in splashes

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of yellow. The blacksmith had to pass through hell and

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the way home, and he's relieved to find it less

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deare drunken revelers staggered through the rain, whilt taving on

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was locked their doors. He torned the corner onto an

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empty street, and that's when a dark shape rushed on

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him from the shadows, Slamming against the wall. His attack

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or dog rest like a man, had the head of

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a black pig, complete with tusks. The blacksmith was shot

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to find himself face to face with the Doloko, who

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went Horne was shocked at the person in the woman's

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cloak and bonnet was actually a man, and quite a

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big one at that. The beast trewed to flee, but

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the Blacksmith swung a mighty fist. If this creature was

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a ghost, like everyone said, the fist should have passed

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straight through the pig's head instead of connected squarely with

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the Dolaker's jaw, sending reel into the ground. Now that

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it was squirming at his feet, that blacksmith seemed convinced

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that this was no demonic phantom, but just a man

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in disguise. He gave the pig a kick to be sure,

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and hair the human grunt of pain. I have the dollacle,

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shouted the blacksmith, jumping on his captive. Up close, he

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could see that the pig's head was merely a mask,

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which the Blacksmith ripped off, exposing the true identity of

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the nottari as Dolaka by no people that e marriged

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from buildings, and one woman leaning closer recognized the blacksmith's

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prisoner mc carolyn. She exclaimed, so you're not dead after all.

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missing from the Black Dog, said the woman, the one

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Another man recognized the distinctive scar above Carolyn's eyebrow. That's

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your man who led the pig call. The crowd dragged

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the Dollako through the streets and handed him over to

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the Black Dog prison, where he was admitted, this time

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a couple of things over the years. But I've learned,

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become accustomed to it. And I think it's kind of

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it's maybe it's another sense or something. But often when

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you go into places, you will get a feeling for

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the place, and you'll get a feeling of whether or

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not it's comfortable. And whatever cause is that, who knows

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what causes that. But we have an intuition. We have

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an inbuilt intuition. I can't describe what it is, where

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it comes from, the physics of it, or the chemistry

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of it, but it's there. And anybody will will tell

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you to stick with your intuition. If you think something

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doesn't feel right, then don't hang around.

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Speaker 4: Superb advice from regular contributor to Scary Era, David McGlynn

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aka the Squire, and don't hang around either.

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Speaker 2: If you've got an Irish.

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Speaker 4: Paranormal tale to tell, simply email Paranormal Ireland at Proton

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Male dot com and it'll be read out for you

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or you get to tell it on air yourself. That's

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Speaker 2: Jenny from Emerald Dial Paranormal When did you first get

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an inkling of this veil that exists beyond ay?

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Speaker 5: Well, I come from a very large family and there

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always has to be that one child that is different,

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and that would have been me. Gosh, I was too

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young to think what I'd be thinking, you know, with

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ghost Just do anything like that and I would be afraid.

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I'd be very afraid, and I would see things. And

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then for many years after that I had put it

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to one side, and then things just started happening as

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I got into my team and older and older, and

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then I ended up joining a team and it took

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Speaker 2: You joined a team, is that like a supernatural urb?

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Speaker 5: I had joined a paranormal team in the North of Ireland, sorry,

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in the North of Ireland, and I was with them

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for many years, about nine eight nine years something like that,

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and that's where it all started off. I was thrown

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in at the deep end.

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Speaker 2: Where do you hail from originally?

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Speaker 5: Is it the north from Draha and I live in Drahda.

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My team is from based in Drahta in County Lane.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're in an advantage straight away because the place

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is absolutely steeped in history.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a great place. I love when people

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come over from America or when I do my shows,

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I always advertise Drahata at the beautiful locations and landmarks

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that we have in Drahda, the history.

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Speaker 2: Of it, the kind of castle. It's a small thing.

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It's almost like a Martello tower on the hill that

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is called a museum.

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Speaker 5: Millmount there would be one of my locations that have

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been investigating for investigation for nine years. That is the

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Martello tower in the museum in Johara Milimentary Museum.

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Speaker 2: Is it an actual Martello It is yes. Interesting and

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you say it's a museum. I remember it being at

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one stage a restaurant.

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Speaker 5: There is a restaurant next door to that that has

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now closed. Down, but the museum was to be a

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place where people lived and where the British Army barracks

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were based, and that people used to live in the

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museum as apartments, and that was up until I think

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nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 2: It's sure panoramic, isn't it. It takes in everything. You

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can see why it was military.

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Speaker 5: And investigating the location itself is phenomenal. It's probably one

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of my favorite places to investigate its phenomena.

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Speaker 2: This is warming up for a good chat. I want

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to roll back. You said, even from a preteen age

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you were seeing things.

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Speaker 5: Can you My bedroom was face in the backyard, and

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at the top of it was a garage, and there

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was a blue car sitting in it, and there was

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always something white going around the wheels of the car.

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Now it was up off the ground. We watched it

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over and over again. Things like banging in my living

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room at night time and I was told to go

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back to sleep. Things that I have seen where people

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wouldn't believe me. People would not believe me. I have

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spoken about it many times, but I wish I could

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have videoed what I had seen in my teens. It

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was phenomenon. It even has me stumped to this day.

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Speaker 2: The blue car. Was it a car that was in

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use or was it some kind of an old abandoned.

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Speaker 5: Car, an old car. It was a family rather a

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family member Cartner had owned it, and it was an

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old car, I think with a light sky blue. I

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think it was a Honda or something like that. But

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it was an old car. It wasn't in use, it

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was just abandoned sitting there that you know, it was

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our shed, but it was something white that was floating

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around all four wheels. We sat in my bedroom staring

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at it.

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Speaker 2: So were other members of the family saying these things.

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Speaker 5: This would have seen it too, yeah, my sister. Yeah,

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we all just with the Qobos would be fitting in

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the bedroom looking out of the window and looking at

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each other, and they were seeing wei hundred things like

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I don't know, some of some of them could see.

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and that's not a good thing to see. That is

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not a good thing to see. So we were kids.

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We were kids, so I don't I couldn't tell you.

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I couldn't even tell you what it was. Could have

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could have been a cast. But like I said it

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was off the ground, see through white and just flying

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around the wheels of their car.

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Speaker 2: So the parents, did you report back?

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Speaker 5: We didn't say anything to them. We just kind of

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there was so many of us, there was eleven of us,

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so it probably was been tail. I know, there was

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a lot of us. They probably would have just been tails.

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so we didn't really seen it. Was curious about it,

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afraid of it, but never did anything about it.

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Speaker 2: And was it that at nighttime? You'd say these it

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was daytime? Yeah, daytime?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So if there was a white mist whirling around in

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the compartment of the car and it's during the day,

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did you not did you not have a look in? Now?

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Speaker 5: No, we did not.

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Speaker 2: You were scared, Yes, we were.

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Speaker 5: I remember being scared because I remember, you know, the

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rest would let it go. I would not let it go.

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I would always think about it, and every time I

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went into that set, I would be afraid of it,

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nervous of it, but I still went into it because

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we used to play games in the shed and so

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on and so on. The rest would forget about it.

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I would remember it.

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Speaker 2: The area you grew up in. Was it very historic?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I live because they were two three minutes away

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from the Point River.

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Speaker 2: So the battleground.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, my house is built on the battleground.

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Speaker 2: Oh that that has got to be written with phenomena.

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Speaker 5: Let me hurries from my house. It was, you know,

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I would always have to I would always have to

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cross the bridge. You know, you cannot get across the

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other side of town unless you cross the bridge. I

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am on the battle site of right beside the Point

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River literally, you know, a two minute walk from it.

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Speaker 2: Let you stay there in those four amative years, and

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I'd certainly advise against it. But back then, Jen, did

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you mess with a weija board or have seances or

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anything like that?

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Speaker 5: Guilty, definitly did Yet of course when we were younger,

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and we did it as an old my old primary school,

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and we kind of seen white, flat and light and

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there was the guard. So we we ran with the

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glass and we threw the glass away and everybody was

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punnicking because the glass was not broken. Yeah it was,

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you know. We we went back the next day to

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look and trol into the long glass looking for the

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glass so we can break it. And we did be

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fatter than we broke it. But that was that was

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the only time I did that when I was younger.

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It just was not The answers were not what you

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would want, obviously, and.

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Speaker 2: Was a symbolic in so far as you broke the glass,

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you broke any potential spell. Was that the thinking, yes, you.

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Speaker 5: Had you had broken you know you you had closed it? Okay, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Life went on and eventually you found yourself in a

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paranormal team. When was that?

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Speaker 5: Oh my godness, what jeez? What year? Is it?

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Speaker 2: More than your care to remember?

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Speaker 5: I suppose I am involved in paranormal about nineteen years,

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about nineteen years, and my team is up and running

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almost eighty years now.

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Speaker 2: And what's your team called.

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Speaker 5: Emerald, I'll paranormal researches.

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Speaker 2: The great thing about this is, and I'm only involved

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in it recently, the amount of people. It's like you

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build it, they will come, you know. The great contacts

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I've had from all around the place. Now and you're

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at it, what nineteen years, so you've trader trove I do.

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Speaker 5: I have a lot of people from around the world

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that I know when I work with and I'm doing

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tours for a fantastic friend of my main May Hernan.

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She's run secret Ireland tours and I'm going to be

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one of her investigators and tour guide. She'll take over

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about twenty four to twenty five people from America, UK

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wherever they want to come from, and we do nine

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day tour around Ireland. So she would have great ambassadors

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such as Chris Flemon or Dave Trader. Good lord, I

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forgot a so named Dave Trader. So these are big

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name a methodist that she would have to investigate in

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it within Ireland. I do a podcast myself, so I have.

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I'm doing it about four years. I have so many

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friends in America, so many networks I'm involved with in America,

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probably no more than Irish.

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Speaker 2: Let's not let this gem get by. So what's the

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name of the podcast?

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Speaker 5: Shadow with Within the Night.

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Speaker 2: I like to pick that's abstract but nice, very attractive.

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Speaker 5: I like it Shadow.

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Speaker 2: You say you say you go around Ireland, so obviously

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will Emorial dial so so on. The fingers are maybe

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one hand, What were the what are the kind of

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key places? Everyone kind of knows Lepper, Leap Castle. Where

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do you think give us an itinery there?

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Speaker 5: Okay, well we will go to Redwood Castle, Great Castles

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beautiful in counter Tipperary. That's that's a great We've been

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investigating there for about five years. Then, of course the

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usual Left Castle. It is exactly what it stays on

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the tin. It is everything a lot. So people will

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get something great from it, some people will not. We

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have never not gotten anything for it great from it.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say, Jenny, I think it's often just

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for anyone listening in. It's often described as the most

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haunted castle in Europe.

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Speaker 5: I have found it to be extremely haunted. I have

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to say all the locations I've been to, and I've

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been to a lot, even the Millment Museum in Drahara

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is extremely active. Left Castle has floored me sometimes, Oh

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my godness, Left Castle for me is it scares me?

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Sometimes There is one particular room in that castle that

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I would not sit in, and I don't think I

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would leave any females sitting in that particular room. An

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extremely active place. We have fantastic video footage on YouTube.

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Then you have Ken your Usual your Health fire club

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in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: Oh, go on, talk to me about it.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting, it's very interesting. We do have video

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footage of something it's like a light nominee. We think

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on then the wall of it, something gone down the

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left of that. Always been told, well, I've been told,

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you know, to go away. In another word, you have

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female voices, You will have male voices that obviously do

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not like you there. There is particular rooms that people

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don't like to be in and will be the rooms

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I like. I don't know what it is. It's the

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hike up alone scares me more than the health fire

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club itself.

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Speaker 2: It's a hike up and especially if you go up

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at night and you have to go through the forest

473
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to a degree and you the wind blowing in the

474
00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:19,119
leaves and all of the atmosphere gets set long before

475
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you actually, you know, get to the top of Montpellier Hill.

476
00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 5: That's it. Oh my god, it's beautiful at nighttime. It

477
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:25,799
is beautiful.

478
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: That its spectacular, It really is. You can see Dublin

479
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,119
from fast.

480
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have so many pictures of it. I've been

481
00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:35,960
up there so many times, have so many pictures of it.

482
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,599
Speaker 2: And do you know when you say you you know

483
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,680
you hear voices? Are these EVPs or are you hearing

484
00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:43,839
physical They.

485
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 5: Can sometimes be dvps. I'm obsessed with EVPs. I have

486
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:51,240
done shows them EVP. EVP would be my thing for

487
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:51,920
anyone listening.

488
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: It's electronic voice phenomena.

489
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: Is it voice phenomena? Yes? And DVP is disembodied voice phenomena.

490
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: Anything else spring to mind?

491
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:03,559
Speaker 5: Oh my, I got a police I loved so much.

492
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,319
Shane Castle up in County.

493
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,279
Speaker 2: Andrum never heard of it.

494
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,039
Speaker 5: Talk to me, that's why you started off. Thrown in

495
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:11,720
at the deep end and let me tell you it is.

496
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,160
I've had experiences there that kind of woke me up

497
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,519
and shut me up. It's in County Andrum and it's

498
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,519
kind of like the red handed Ulster Luckney. The largest

499
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:23,720
man made lock.

500
00:25:24,079 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like a big if you look at

501
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,880
it from a satellite or a map, it's like a

502
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,400
big chunk is taken out of Ireland, doesn't it. It's huge.

503
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:34,319
Speaker 5: Yes, it's the man one of the largest man made lock.

504
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,519
Speaker 2: Old man made, isn't I never knew?

505
00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,519
Speaker 5: Yes, man made. And there was a race to the land.

506
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,559
Whoever reached the land first would have owned it. One

507
00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:45,839
guy was really desperate for the land, so he cut

508
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,559
his hand off and he threw it onto the land,

509
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:49,960
which is why you have the flag with the red hand,

510
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,200
called the red hand, so he owned the land.

511
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:55,839
Speaker 2: Then, yeah, he threw his hand in he did he.

512
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,759
Speaker 5: Literally he literally did he did.

513
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know that, and I know deep in

514
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,880
the mythological as well, isn't it the whole red hand

515
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,119
of Ulster and all the tribes? And yeah, what's the

516
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,240
name of that castle again?

517
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:11,559
Speaker 5: Same castle?

518
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,759
Speaker 2: And I'm going to google that.

519
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,839
Speaker 5: The castle is a room. So we do not investigate

520
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,599
the castle. We go through the tunnels.

521
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,559
Speaker 2: We don't do the castle under the castle or nearby.

522
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 5: On the same on land. It's huge, but there's tunnels.

523
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,319
If you, If you, if anyone has ever watched Gains

524
00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:32,440
of Throne, some of it was filmmed in the tunnels.

525
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:37,160
Big go on for okabt two or three miles. Petrify, absolutely, petrify.

526
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:39,480
We used to walk them. Oh my goodness, even the

527
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480
memories that come back to me. So everything will be

528
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,359
underneath the ground. You were so far under there's graves

529
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,839
above you.

530
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,279
Speaker 2: Would it make would it make one claustrophobic?

531
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 5: I'd say no, it's wide. Oh gosh, yes, it's wide.

532
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,160
I can send you a pictures. On each side has

533
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,200
voult and there are about thirty feet long. It's not longer.

534
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,960
So there's about fifteen faults on each side, and you

535
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:01,319
go through tunnels and you go through the maids quarts.

536
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,400
I've been investigating there for about nine years, every single month,

537
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,799
confiderably and what.

538
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: Was what was the purpose of it? Was it facilities

539
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:11,160
or what was it?

540
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 5: Just it was for the army, so you'd have British,

541
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,039
you would have French, Spanish.

542
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,319
Speaker 2: Godness, the EVPs from that you get multi lingual ones.

543
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: It was phenomenal. I know some of the guys were

544
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,480
calling out in French and in Spanish, and I know

545
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440
one of the onlys to kind of my dog keeps back.

546
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,799
I don't know why my dog's back.

547
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's amazing. And I never even knew that

548
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,319
Spanish or French were in that neck of the woods.

549
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,519
I remember Mayo and go Away in places like that.

550
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:39,079
That's amazing.

551
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 5: It's the place to start off on if you ever,

552
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640
you know, do investigations and so on. It is definitely

553
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,839
I mean it is run by one one team. When

554
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160
Lady owns not owned it, but she you know, you

555
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000
go to herself, she would invite teams into it. And

556
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,319
if you do manage to get it is just one

557
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,720
of the best locations I've been to. The audio dvps,

558
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:02,519
which will be getting of women talking and your jacket

559
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:04,519
will be pulled out and tugged that and it does

560
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,440
make you jump. It makes you it makes it makes

561
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,680
you jump, or if you're touched, the feeling is different. Oh, yes,

562
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:12,319
there's been some you know. We we do live videos

563
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,480
and say would be you know, bleep here and bleed

564
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,920
there because you do get a bit of a shock,

565
00:28:17,079 --> 00:28:17,640
but it's fun.

566
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: You wouldn't want to be on your own.

567
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 5: Safety by always going with a group of people. You

568
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,559
always have to you never go investigating by yourself, with

569
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,599
your team with people. But this be safe with a

570
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,119
group of people. Never do it on your own. You

571
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,200
never know what can happen.

572
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: And Jenny paranormal it's a catch all.

573
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 6: Okay, So there's Poulter guys, there's spirits, there's EVPs, animal

574
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,680
mystic type stuff. Is there any particular area that's a

575
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:47,480
fascination or of interest for you that you're almost a

576
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:48,200
specialist in?

577
00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:51,359
Speaker 5: Easy piece it's what I do. I know my very

578
00:28:51,359 --> 00:28:53,480
good friends from the Netherlands and she had put up

579
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,359
a post last week saying, oh we need to do

580
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:57,400
an V show, Jenny will be called on in you

581
00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:58,759
EVP is my thing?

582
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: Did you feel you could be perhaps? Or if you not?

583
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:05,680
Do you know of clairvoyance?

584
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: I do. I always say that the longer you're in

585
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,599
this field, the longer you talk, you open yourself up.

586
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,160
So exactly you're opening yourself up. You're alone, you can

587
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,359
hear things or see things. I would hear things. I

588
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,359
would have names given to me, and I know it

589
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,680
sounds crazy, and I know people having you know, the

590
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,319
team was having a great crap with me one night

591
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:30,039
when I was coming out with names. But they some

592
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,319
of them have came thrue. But I remember being in

593
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,880
the museum doing an investigation and so on, and I'm

594
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480
standing there in the room and I'm like, what I'm

595
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,759
going to have to say it, guys, I'm going to

596
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,720
have to say it. I'm getting the name Mauring. I

597
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,720
don't know why. Mauren is just compident and I'm not

598
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:46,240
that kind of person will say do you understand? Can

599
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,039
you hear me? Do you you know? Do you understand

600
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:50,160
one thing? So I just don't want to say it,

601
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,200
but I'm like, guys, I'm really sorry, but I'm going

602
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,240
to have to go there, I'm getting the name Maureen,

603
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,559
and I won't stop until I say moreing and it

604
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,799
sounds like I'm bonkers. And I looked over at one

605
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:00,480
of the guys and he had a f with him,

606
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,119
and I looked at him and I said, do you

607
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,119
know a marine? And he said, look at the cabinet

608
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,839
just standing beside. So the cabinet that I was standing beside.

609
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,599
This man he his second wife's name was named Maureen.

610
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,200
And I was like, you know, whatever, coincidence, I don't

611
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,440
know any moreen Whether the coincidence I don't know, I

612
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,440
do not know, So.

613
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,359
Speaker 2: Let me try another one on your poltergeist experience is

614
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:23,880
of same.

615
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: It's hard to say. I remember when New Year's Ease.

616
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,079
My husband at the time, he had to get up

617
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:30,799
for work at six in the morning, and he was

618
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,200
telling me about his dad the night before because he's

619
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,960
for Mauritius and telling me about his dad the night before,

620
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:39,359
and you know that he passed away at a young age, unexpectedly,

621
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,559
and how he loved theas Eve and so on and

622
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:43,480
so on. So my husband at the time had to

623
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,279
get up for work. The alarm was not set and

624
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:47,920
about he had to be up for six in the morning,

625
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,279
about ten to six, we heard glass smashing in our bedroom.

626
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,680
Like it was enough that we both sat up. We

627
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,839
both joted, my god and my dad. Is there a

628
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,839
cat in the kitchen? Did she smash on the champagne glasses?

629
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Why is there sound of glass in our bedroom? It

630
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,759
turned out to be anyhow, his champagne glass had fallen over,

631
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,680
very thin champagne glass did not smash. No glass of

632
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,519
smash was in the kitchen. But this sound of smashing

633
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:13,519
woke us up that it came in from our bedroom.

634
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,240
It was his champagne glass. Everything else was standing up,

635
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,759
just his was turnover. Whether it was a pot of guys,

636
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,720
whether it was a sign from his dad, these things

637
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920
we just have not seen with our own eyes. To

638
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,079
explain it, we don't know.

639
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,119
Speaker 2: Tell us where we can find out all about Jenny

640
00:31:27,119 --> 00:31:31,039
Sullivan and Emerald Dial Paranormal Here, advertise yourself from what you.

641
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 5: Do so I won emad Ill Paranormal Researchers. You can

642
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:39,400
find us on Facebook Emerald Ill Paranormal Researchers. You can

643
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,359
watch our podcast on Facebook as well, and I'm setting

644
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000
up a new YouTube page, Shadow Whiskers in the Night,

645
00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,119
so you can catch us on that. You can catch

646
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,799
gen Para on TikTok. I do advertise my posters, my

647
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,599
some of my lives and some of my shows that

648
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,160
I have come on up. I am away up in

649
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,680
counter Tyro next Saturday night, not for an investigation, work

650
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:06,400
for a para Christmas party, and then I have a

651
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,519
fantastic show coming up on the twentieth of December. It

652
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:12,799
is called the Christmas Trivia Quint which we have three

653
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:16,519
teens together, pj O'Sullivan from Pokovo Paranormal his group will

654
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:18,799
be with us, and then we have Pulta to the

655
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,839
Paranormal Nanto and Sarah from a very good friends Mind

656
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680
from the UK, and then of course Emeraldal paranormal researchers,

657
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,039
and we have fantastic Robin Ramsey from New York. So

658
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,519
it is a night of competition, test and our brains

659
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:31,920
and a lot of squeakers and buzzs.

660
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: That'll be a night to remember, Jenny, So listen, Jenny,

661
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,240
thank you so much for all of your time and

662
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:41,640
it's fascinating stuff. I hope we'll all meet again sometime soon.

663
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,960
And meanwhile, everyone go online to all those wonderful places.

664
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:47,400
I'll put some links as well down below this and

665
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,799
thanks again Jenny, Thank.

666
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: You so much. Mark, it was a pleasure taking with you.

667
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:55,519
Speaker 2: Once again, we dig into author Kiiran Fanning's book Haunted

668
00:32:55,559 --> 00:32:59,319
Ireland and Atlas of Ghost Stories for every County in

669
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:03,920
Ireland of it and all good bookshops and online. This

670
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:08,839
is Sarah Campbell now voiceover a Northern Ireland radio personality,

671
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,000
relating to us.

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00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 7: The tragic tale of Lucinda's Sly. You wouldn't expect Carlo

673
00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,680
Shopping Center to be haunted when you find out it

674
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,799
was once a place where prisoners were executed, it makes

675
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:24,920
perfect sense that there might be unhappy spirits around. The

676
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,039
shopping center has seen a lot of paranormal activity over

677
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:31,240
the years, like lights being switched off and on, doors

678
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:35,240
opening and closing by themselves, objects moving on their own,

679
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,680
and unexplained noises. Some workers at the shopping center believe

680
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:41,920
that much of the haunting there is the work of

681
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,640
Lucinda Sly, the last woman to be hanged in Carlo.

682
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,319
Lucinda Singleton was the wife of a farmer near Tullow

683
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:54,119
in County Carlo. Shortly after her son Thomas was born,

684
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:59,319
Lucinda's husband died of consumption. Afterwards, life was difficult for her,

685
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,920
hard supplementing her income by selling butter in Carlo Town.

686
00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,680
When Thomas left home to become a police officer, Lucinda

687
00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,360
was lonely and she wished she had someone to share

688
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,039
her life with. Perhaps she should have been happy with

689
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:16,119
her lot, because her wish came true. She got more

690
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:18,920
than she bargained for. As her mother used to say,

691
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,239
a little fire that warms is better than a big

692
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,480
fire that burns. The big fire that came into her

693
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:30,360
life was a farmer and a horse dealer called Walter Sly. Initially,

694
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,000
Lucinda was wary of the man because he had a

695
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:36,719
reputation for drinking too much, but he assured her that

696
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,920
his bad habit was behind him. She gave him a chance,

697
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,159
and over the next few months they started stepping out together.

698
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,280
During that time, Lucinda never saw Water take more than

699
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,920
one single drink, so she was convinced he'd changes ways. Eventually,

700
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,000
he proposed to her and asked her to move into

701
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:58,320
his farm. But Lucinda was no fool. She knew that

702
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,320
if the marriage didn't work out, she would be left

703
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,639
with nothing, so she agreed to marry Walter on condition

704
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,360
that she could keep her own farm. Fine, said Walter,

705
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,320
We're entered out. Lucinda was happy, but wanted to make

706
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,920
the agreement legally binding, so they had an attorney draw

707
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,400
up a document stating that Walter would not sell her farm. However,

708
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,800
unbeknownst to her, Walter had a clause that the agreement

709
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,519
would become null and void if Lucinda wasn't a good

710
00:35:29,559 --> 00:35:33,440
wife to him. In August eighteen thirty one, the couple

711
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,320
got married and Lucinda Singleton became Lucinda's sly. They were

712
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,960
happy for a while, but Walter soon went back to

713
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:44,400
his old ways and started drinking again, which caused friction

714
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:48,039
between him and his new wife. During one of his

715
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:52,000
drinking sessions, Walter sold his wife's house and farm to

716
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:56,159
the owner of the pub, a man called Langstrom. Lucinda

717
00:35:56,199 --> 00:35:59,400
didn't find out until she returned to Tullow to visit

718
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:02,000
one of her old neighbors. On the way, she passed

719
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,119
her old house and was surprised to see smoke coming

720
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,480
from the chimney. It was supposed to be empty, but

721
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,679
she hadn't got round to renting it out yet. Maybe

722
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:14,599
her new husband had taken an attenant. But if so,

723
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,800
why hadn't he told her. Determined to find out, she

724
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,440
turned off the road, and, though it felt strange, she

725
00:36:21,519 --> 00:36:24,239
knocked at her own front door, and she was surprised

726
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,360
to recognize the man that opened it. You're Langstrom, aren't you,

727
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,239
she asked the owner river tavern where my husband drinks.

728
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:37,920
That's right, he said, also recognizing Lucinda. And you're the

729
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,360
butter lady that married water Sly Walter rented my farm

730
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,239
to you, she asked, clearly disgusted for she partly blamed

731
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,199
Langstrom for her husband's drinking. The tavern owner shook his

732
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,000
head and smiled. Walter didn't rent it to me, he

733
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:59,039
sold it to me. Lucinda was furious and returned home

734
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,480
to confront her husband, and he told her about the

735
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:05,159
claws that he had secretly added, which allowed him to

736
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,599
sell her property if she was a bad wife. But

737
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,280
I'm a good wife, she argued. A good wife does

738
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,199
not give her husband cheek. He shouted, hitting her so

739
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,920
hard that she fell to the ground. Then he beat

740
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,000
her with a horsewhip and threw her out of the house,

741
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,280
lying battered and bruised in a bed of Hay in

742
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,599
a stable. Lucinda realized that marrying Walter had been the

743
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:33,199
biggest mistake of her life, and now, with no property

744
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,880
of her own to return to, she'd have to stay

745
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,639
married to a man she hated. From then on, Walter

746
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,039
treated her like a slave and was drunk so often

747
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840
that Lucinda had to do all the farm work. It

748
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,440
was too much for one woman, so Walter hired a

749
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,119
young man called John Dempsey to help. One evening, John

750
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:56,079
witnessed a drunken Walter beating his wife. Stepping in to

751
00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:59,639
defend her, John Punchwater so hard that he knocked him

752
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,840
unco Walter had been so drunk that when he came too,

753
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,880
he couldn't even remember being punched. After that, John and

754
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,679
Lucinda grew close and became romantically involved behind Water's back.

755
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,000
It wasn't long before they had fallen in love for

756
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:19,519
the first time in years. Lucinda was happy and spent

757
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,559
every moment with John when her husband was away at

758
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,239
the pub or away at the fair. On one of

759
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,559
these occasions, a neighbor called Bridget Massy spotted the couple kissing.

760
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,199
Rumors began to spread about Lucinda's secret love affair. Even

761
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,639
the women who sold butter alongside her and Carlo turned

762
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,679
against her. At that time, it was considered the graces

763
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:43,639
of sins for a woman to be unfaithful to her husband.

764
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:48,519
They branded her the Hag of the butter. When Walter's

765
00:38:48,519 --> 00:38:51,599
sly got wind of these rumors, he smashed one of

766
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:55,400
Lucinda's favorite bowls in anger. His rage reached boiling point,

767
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:57,719
and when he saw the ward of money among the

768
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,199
shards of shattered pottery. Lucinda had been stashing some of

769
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,840
her butter money away instead of handing over to her

770
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,679
husband in case she ever needed to escape from him.

771
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,480
In a hurry. He grabbed the axe that hung on

772
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:13,320
the wall and threatened to kill her. Do your worst,

773
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,119
you drunkard, Lucinda taunted. Walter flung the axe aside and

774
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:20,960
punched her and said she fell, and when she got up,

775
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,440
he hit her again. He was so focused on hitting

776
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,360
her he didn't even notice a small key fall from

777
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,719
his pocket, but Lucinda noticed his wife bruised and battered

778
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,960
and bleeding on the floor. Walter left to attend to

779
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920
a horse fair. When Linda found the energy to move,

780
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:43,119
she crawled over to the key. I think I know

781
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,360
what that's for, she thought to herself. In the bedroom,

782
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,599
she pulled a box from out from under the bed.

783
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,519
Walter had never told her what was inside, and he'd

784
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:57,320
always kept it locked. With a shaking hand, she twisted

785
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,639
the key in the lock and it opened with a

786
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:05,000
satin fine click. Inside was a gun. As she took

787
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:09,599
the weapon out, a plan formed in her mind. When

788
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:12,400
John came in from the fields, he was shocked at

789
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Linda's bruised and bloody face. I'll kill him, he vowed.

790
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:22,320
Lucinda smiled and held up the gun. No, John, we'll

791
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,880
kill him. I wasn't being serious, said John. Lucinda, however,

792
00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:29,920
was deadly serious. She told him of her plan to

793
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,639
shoot Walter when he came home. Then you'll go to prison,

794
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,360
he replied, shaking his head. No, we need to make

795
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,199
it look like someone else shot him. Lucinda thought, for

796
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,880
a moment, we'll say some angry horse trader followed Water

797
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,440
home and shot him outside in the haggard. She said

798
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:50,119
this would be believable because Walter was always making enemies

799
00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:53,480
of those horse fairs. John agreed that this was a

800
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:57,119
better plan, but neither of them had ever used a gun. Before,

801
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,719
and shooting a man outside in the dark would be difficult.

802
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,360
Lucinda's eyes fell on the axe that Walter had threatened

803
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,400
her with. When he comes home drunk after a night out,

804
00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,079
he always falls asleep in his armchair. While is asleep,

805
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,559
we could knock him out with the axe and finish

806
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:21,280
the job outside with the gun, John nodded. That night,

807
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,639
as they waited for Walter to come home, John started

808
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:27,599
to have second thoughts about the plan. He was a

809
00:41:27,639 --> 00:41:29,599
young man and he didn't want to go to prison

810
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:33,239
if they were caught. Lucinda, however, was convinced that the

811
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,920
plan was her only way out of a violent marriage.

812
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,559
She told John that if they were caught, she would

813
00:41:39,559 --> 00:41:43,679
take the blame. They turned off the lamp and waited

814
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,159
in darkness. Walter would be suspicious if he saw a

815
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:50,079
light on in the kitchen because Lucinda usually went to

816
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,599
bird early. At twenty past ten, they heard the sound

817
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:57,599
of horses hoofs coming down the lane. Lucinda hid in

818
00:41:57,639 --> 00:41:59,840
the bedroom and John took the gun into the back

819
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:06,159
where he usually slept. As predicted, Walter staggered into the kitchen,

820
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,360
drunk and talking to himself. He fell into his armchair.

821
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,480
Within seconds, he was snoring. Lucinda crept out from her

822
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:18,719
hiding place and took hold of the axe. In the

823
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,639
dying light of the fire, John watched her raise it

824
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:26,239
above her head, but she couldn't do it. Her hands trembled,

825
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,440
her face was frozen in terror. To make matters worse,

826
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,920
Water was starting to wake up quickly. John took the

827
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,519
axe from Lucinda and swung it, landing a fierce blow

828
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,039
on the side of Walter's head. He filled to the floor,

829
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,679
but he wasn't dead or unconscious. He groaned and tried

830
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,320
to stand up. In panic. John swapped the axe.

831
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:46,519
Speaker 2: For the gun.

832
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 7: Not here, warned Lucinda. It was too late. John pulled

833
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:56,000
the trigger and killed Water sly. The couple stared in

834
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:59,679
horror at what they had done, but Lucinda swiftly snapped

835
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,079
out of it. She knew the neighbors would have heard

836
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:06,360
the gun shot. Quickly get him outside. They dragged the

837
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,039
body out into the yard, where John fired another bullet

838
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:12,239
into the wall to make it look like the shooting

839
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,639
had happened there. Lucinda had another idea that might throw

840
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:20,239
the police off the trail. She went through her husband's pockets,

841
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,599
took his money and his pocket watch to make it

842
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:25,360
look like a robbery. She handed them to John, who

843
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,000
put them in his own pocket. Hurriedly, they ran back inside.

844
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,880
John cleaned the blood off the floor and the axe,

845
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,840
while Lucinda reloaded the gun and locked it away in

846
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,199
the box under the bed. Next, she ran through the

847
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,800
fields to get to the nearest neighbor, Ben Stacy. By

848
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,760
the time Lucinda and Ben had got back to the

849
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,960
scene of the murder, more neighbors had arrived. See he's

850
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,360
been robbed, Lucinda suggested to one of them he should

851
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,440
have had the pocket watch and some money. After selling

852
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,320
two horses at the fair, a neighbor by the name

853
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,559
of John Griffin went through the dead man's pockets but

854
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:04,039
found no money or watch. Lucinda asked Ben Stacy to

855
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,960
go to the barracks in the next town to report

856
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,079
the murder. She helped her son, who was stationed there,

857
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:13,119
would come to investigate and might overlook any holes in

858
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:17,519
her story. Thomas did come, but not alone. He was

859
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:21,559
accompanied by Captain Battersby and a constable named Ernest Hudson.

860
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,679
As Lucinda gave them her statement, a doctor arrived to

861
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,320
examine the body and declare that Walter must have been

862
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,280
shot at close range because his mustache had been singed

863
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,840
by the gunpowder. This didn't tally with Lucinda's story, and

864
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,760
now Captain Battersby eyed her suspiciously. Did your husband own

865
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,039
a gun? Lucender said she didn't think so, but Thomas,

866
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,639
thinking he has been helpful, confirmed that Walter did own

867
00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:50,760
a gun. He's got one, you know, after he received

868
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,760
death threats from a family that he had evicted. Well,

869
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,440
so well is it, asked Captain Battersby. Probably robbed along

870
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,400
with his pocket watch and money, suggested Lucinder. When John

871
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,119
Dempsey heard this, he remembered that Walter's money and watch

872
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,039
was still in his own pocket. He'd been in such

873
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:10,239
a state of shock that he'd forgotten to get rid

874
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,480
of them. I'm just going to get some turf for

875
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,880
the fire, he said, intending to get rid of the evidence.

876
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,639
While on the errand. Constable Hudson nodded that this was fine,

877
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,519
but moments later sent a neighbor, Catherine Landrigen, after him

878
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:27,840
to help. She followed John and saw him hide something

879
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,199
in one of the stacks of turf, but said nothing.

880
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,079
Captain Battersby turned back to Lycinder's son, Do you think

881
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:37,960
your stepfather's gun was robbed? Thomas Singleton shook his head.

882
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,840
I know for a fact that Walter never carried his gun.

883
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:43,000
He told me he always kept it in a locked

884
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:46,679
box under his bed. Constable Hudson looked under the bed

885
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,719
and returned a moment later with a wooden box. Do

886
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,880
you have a keep of this? Captain Battersby asked Lucinda.

887
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,960
When she shook her head, he ordered that she be searched.

888
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:59,239
Lucinder said nothing. When the key was found on her,

889
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,519
she knew where the Captain's scowl that he thought she

890
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:06,039
was guilty. When the gun was removed, Battersby took it

891
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:08,679
away to be examined, telling Lucindra and John not to

892
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,199
leave the country. A few days later, John and Lucinda

893
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,239
were arrested at Walter Sly's funeral. Lucinda protested that John

894
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,079
was innocent of any crime, but the police would not listen.

895
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,559
The pair were taken to Carlo Town and they were

896
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,800
both charged with murder and locked up in separate cells.

897
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,199
As she waited for her trial, Lucinda's mental state deteriorated.

898
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,119
Prison guards reported that she spent days and days mumbling

899
00:46:35,159 --> 00:46:39,719
gibberish to herself. Her name was splashed across every newspaper.

900
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 5: In the county.

901
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,599
Speaker 7: She was the talk of the town even before the trial.

902
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,400
The people of Carlo had convicted her as a murdering witch.

903
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,360
On the sixteenth of March eighteen thirty five. The streets

904
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,280
around the Hall and Carlo were packed with people hoping

905
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,440
to catch a glimpse of the witch and the farm

906
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:59,360
laborer who had murdered a poor farmer in cold blood.

907
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,119
The prisoners were brought into the courtroom. The crowd booed

908
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:07,639
and shouted and jeered. Lucinda's defense attorney called locals into

909
00:47:07,639 --> 00:47:10,639
the witness box to testify that water Sly was indeed

910
00:47:10,639 --> 00:47:14,039
a drunkard who had sold Lucinda's farm without her permission.

911
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,880
Her claim that she had been physically abused by her

912
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,559
husband was backed up by testimony of the neighbors who

913
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,360
had seen her cuts and bruises. Her attorney also tried

914
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,119
to sell the jewry Lucinda's story of robbery gone wrong,

915
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,880
but this was debunked when the attorney for the crown

916
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,559
called Catherine to the stand. She said that she had

917
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,360
seen John Dempsey hide something in the stack of turf

918
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,440
she had laced. Her informed the police, and a constable

919
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,559
name Joseph Flanagan then testified he had searched the stack

920
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:43,559
and found the water to Sly's watch. After that, things

921
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:47,360
did not go well for Lucinda. Doctor Thomas Rausten testified

922
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,960
that the victim had been shot at close range, which

923
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,199
cast further doubt on Lucinda's robbery theory. Bridget Massey said

924
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,719
that she had seen Lucinda's Sly and John Dempsey kissing.

925
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,119
The others testified they'd heard Lucinda say she'd wish her

926
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:04,519
husband dead. The police testified that the accused had lied

927
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,400
about the gun. The final nail in the coffin for

928
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,719
Lucinda was when John Dempsey himself was put in the

929
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,400
witness box. A devout Catholic who wanted God's forgiveness so

930
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,199
that he could go to heaven, he confessed to conspiring

931
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,679
with Lucinda to murder her husband. He's lying, shouted Lucinda,

932
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,679
trying to save her lover's life. He had nothing to

933
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,880
do with any of this. Let him go. Lucinda was

934
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,480
warned that if she couldn't remain quiet, she would be

935
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:35,639
removed from the court and the trial would continue in

936
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,159
her absence. After hours of deliberating, the jury found Lucinda

937
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,639
and John guilty of murder. The audience cheered when the

938
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,639
couple were sentenced to be hanged. On the thirtiers of

939
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:51,880
March eighteen thirty five, Lucinda's Sly and John Dempsey were

940
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,800
brought out before a huge crowd that had gathered. They

941
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were escorted by four policemen, a Protestant minister, and a

942
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Catholic priest. Lucinda looked fragile and pale, but John held

943
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his head high like a man who was ready to

944
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go before God. Lucinda was so weak that a policeman

945
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had to hold her up for a while. So while

946
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the noose was put around her neck hanging, the witch

947
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shouted the crowd. John tried to defend her, but the

948
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crowd drowned him out with all their cries. Moments later,

949
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the trap doors were sprung and Lucinda and John fell

950
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to their doom, united in death, if not in life.

951
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If you happen to visit Carlos Shopping Center, look at

952
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the keystone in the arch above one of the windows,

953
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and you will see a slot where the gibbet was fixed.

954
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The rope that hanged Lucinda and John was attached to

955
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this gibbet. Perhaps is not the only remnant of their

956
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,039
death you will find there. Maybe you'll come across Lucinda's

957
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ghost still walking in the halls.

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Speaker 2: The sad tale of Lucindu's Lime makes you want to cry.

959
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It was beautifully read for us there by voiceover artist

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and radio personality Sarah Campbell, who I think is doing

961
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live events now as well. You can check her out online.

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Many years ago when I got into this game of

963
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narration and voiceover. First of all, I narrated an audio

964
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book for a gentleman called Nick Clark, an no nonsense

965
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:27,079
businessman and author from Scotland. We recently reconnected. He hasn't

966
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been too well in himself, but when I asked him

967
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did he ever have any paranormal experiences? He related the

968
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tale that you're about to hear read for you now

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by his fellow scott and comedian Billy Kirkwood.

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Speaker 8: Tonight, let me take you back to a chilling story

971
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that remains unsolved, a tale rooted in the very walls

972
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of an old Victorian house in Glasgow. The strange occurrences

973
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began the moment the new tenants moved in, not knowing

974
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that the house had witnessed unspeakable tragedies in it's passed,

975
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every creek of his wooden floorboards echoed the lives of

976
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those who had since departed. It was in nineteen eighty

977
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four when my sister, yes, my veryone's sister, nerved into

978
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a four bedroom house in a quiet street, the type

979
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of place where children are meant to laugh and play.

980
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But instead there was a creepy silence that held tight,

981
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so tight you could feel it in the pit of

982
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your stomach. As she settled into this seemingly normal house,

983
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little did she know that the peace would soon be

984
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shattered by unsettling sounds, strange whispers, and inexplicable sights. It

985
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,239
all began the unnerving noises that she and her young

986
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,719
son Chris, began hearing on the upper floor, which seemed

987
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to come from nowhere. It filled the space with the

988
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distinct sound of running footsteps, like children sprinting across the house,

989
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their tiny little feet thumping against the old wooden stairs.

990
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But when my sister and I went up to investigate,

991
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we found no one there, no signs of anyone, but

992
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:27,360
the sounds persisted night after night. One evening, as we

993
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,599
sat quietly in the living room, we heard it again,

994
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Chris's laughter, a sweet, innocent giggle that echoed from upstairs,

995
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,559
a sound that carried an eerie chill through our bones.

996
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,280
When we went to check that, we found me.

997
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Speaker 9: And my blood run cold, because there on his bed

998
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:03,559
were three ice creams, their frozen surfaces sparkling in the

999
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:09,719
dim light, placed perfectly, and the window was wide open,

1000
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allowing a bitter cold breeze to sweep in. We asked

1001
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,679
Chris about it, and he.

1002
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Speaker 8: Simply looked at us with wide innocent eyes, said, but

1003
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two week friends gave them to me. He gestured to

1004
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,519
the corner of the room, where he insisted two little

1005
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:35,840
children stood, children who, according to him, had been playing

1006
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with him for days. My sister and I were both

1007
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:46,960
struck within icy realization that those friends were children who

1008
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:50,840
had tragically passed away two years earlier in that very house.

1009
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,079
The spirits lingering, trapped still wandering the halls through the

1010
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,599
icy chill in the air seemed to freeze itself in time.

1011
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,079
Neither of us could explain what had happened, why Chris

1012
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:12,519
was seemingly communicating with these spectral figures, or or how

1013
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:14,800
they had been able to reach across the boundaries of

1014
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life and death. From that moment, the atmosphere and the

1015
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house became heavier, filled the presence that we couldn't ignore.

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As days passed and other incidents began to occur, including

1017
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flickering lights, items that would move from one place to

1018
00:54:36,159 --> 00:54:41,000
another with no logical explanation, and the occasional soft sound

1019
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of a child crying late at night. And so the

1020
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house itself were trying to tell us something that we

1021
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:52,880
weren't ready to understand. It wasn't until years later, when

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we moved out of this house that we learned of

1023
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,159
its tragic past, how a young boy and a girl

1024
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:03,519
had met there and timely demise their lives stolen by

1025
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a fire that had ravaged the home, a fire some said,

1026
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,079
was not accidental, the result of the house being cursed.

1027
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It was this curse that had over itself into the

1028
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fabric of the house, lingering for years, waiting for the

1029
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:29,599
next residence to arrive and witness the stranger currencies to

1030
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:35,360
supernatural events to unfold. To this day, the house stands

1031
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,719
as a silent monument to those souls, their presence felt

1032
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,719
by anyone brave enough to step inside. For they say,

1033
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if you listen closely, especially on quiet, moonless nights, you

1034
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can still hear the faint echo of children's laughter, or

1035
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the soft shuffle.

1036
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Speaker 2: Footsteps in the distance.

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Speaker 8: If you're lucky, or perhaps unlucky, you might even feel

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00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:14,639
a chill on your skin, cold breath on your neck,

1039
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,000
as if the spirits of the house are rushing up

1040
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,679
against you, inviting you to stay just a little longer,

1041
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,960
to listen to the story they have yet to tell.

1042
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Speaker 10: Okay, I bet you're catching your weed truths now, and

1043
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,880
why shouldn't you be? Scary stuff right here on scary era.

1044
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And what's even more scary is I checked out the

1045
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local history of this place. I broadcast you from an

1046
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:03,199
area called Booterstown on the east coast of Ireland, and

1047
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,480
I see in seventeen twenty nine it was infested by

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00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:10,000
rats and I quote as big as cats that eight

1049
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:14,199
people gobble them up terrifying times and up the road

1050
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,559
in Wrathfarnham. Apparently they killed a little girl out in

1051
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the fields. So you know, history is all around you.

1052
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,360
I can't make this show without you. So if you've

1053
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got a good paranormal story, not necessarily irish, although it helps.

1054
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Get in touch simply email Paranormal Ireland at ProtonMail dot com.

1055
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Speaker 2: I'm Mark Manning. It's been a pleasure to be with

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you on Scary Era. Take care because I care.

