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Speaker 1: Welcome to the opening line report.

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Speaker 2: I know the comments section wanted me to do my

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best Drew Martin Bett's impersonation, but I can't do it,

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you guys, and he's just irreplaceable in that.

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Speaker 1: Saying that being said, let's bring.

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Speaker 2: In Teddy Covers talk about preseason week one, what we learned,

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what we saw.

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Speaker 1: Teddy, I'm in a tizzy. I'm on an airplane yesterday.

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Speaker 2: My buddy Dan Livshatz, Chris Thurston and I had went

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to the casino the night before. They said, Hey, we're

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betting the Saints under tomorrow. We got the best of

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the number under thirty nine. Right sitting there feeling great.

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Line closes thirty seven and a half and then boom,

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third quarter, pick six meaningless field goal as time expires,

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meaning let's get it. You gotta get your kickers repsent,

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but you get the idea.

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Speaker 1: It has been over City fourteen and two. Week one

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the overs went.

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Speaker 2: Let's break down what we learned in week one and

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why every single game basically went over the total.

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Speaker 3: Well, hello, Kelly, and of course, look let's start with

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an intro. All right, had this particular way going Welcome

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in to the NFL opening and it just like some

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reason that got everyone's blood going, myself included. All of

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a sudden, you get excited about it. So I'm sure

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you'll develop your own intro. We always you know. Look,

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I love jew I missed you, but I'm very happy

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to be working with you, and I'm sure it'll be fine.

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But anytime there's change people, you know, it's something different,

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but welcome in. You'll find your You'll find it.

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Speaker 2: Teddy has the voice. It's a it's deeper than mine.

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And that's all that.

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Speaker 3: Matters when it comes to these overs. All right, what

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we're seeing and we're seeing it already in the betting

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markets for week two of the preseason after the Hall

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of Fame game went over, and we saw a bevy

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of overs in week one, you talked about fourteen and

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two and a lot of them just sneaking over the

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total again, but not all of them, you know, many

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of them flew over the total. We had multiple teams

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approach or exceed the total all by themselves, the Giants,

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the Patriots, et cetera, et cetera. And what's going to

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happen when you see that week one of the preseason, Well,

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you're going to see them market reaction, and we're seeing

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that already with over money coming in on game after game.

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We'll talk about it as we go through these games

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one by one, like we do every single Monday morning.

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But the broader picture is this, it's a little bit random.

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It's not this what did we see. There were two

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factors that really stood out to me. One, red zone

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execution better in Week one this year than previous week

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ones that I've seen. And you know, we saw more

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touchdowns at fewer field goal you know, first and ten

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from the twenty Are you getting three points? Are you

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getting seven? And this year, for whatever reason, we got

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a lot of sevens and not that many threes. And

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of course, there was a ton of big plays, especially

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on special teams. You know, more big plays on special

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teams than the average week. And that's typical for week

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one of the preseason when teams are still working on

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specialty and issues. They were kick returns, there were putt returns.

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There were lots of drives starting an opponent's territory, starting

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with good field positions, setting up short fields that made

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all the difference when it came to totals. Now, has

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the NFL changed and we're going to see all overs

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this year, you know, worth paying attention to. But the

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markets catch up quickly, and like I said, we're aready

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seeing a bunch of over money come in here in

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week two. If we get a bunch more big plays

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on special teams and we see another week where the

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red zone execution is dellar, we're likely to have another

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week of overs. But I wouldn't count on that. I

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would expect it to be much closer to fifty to

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fifty in week two of the preseason when it comes

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to totals compared to what we saw in.

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Speaker 2: Week one and depending on when you bet. The Dolphins

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dogs went twelve and five this weekend as well against

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the spread, which is one of my favorite things to see. Teddy,

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talk to me, why you think the underdogs are cashing

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or is that just another random anomaly for week one

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in preseason?

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Speaker 3: So make no mistake about it. The wise guy's got

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their ass kick this weekend, all right? I was, well,

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you know, I had a good handful of plays and

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we're going to talk about them throughout the course that

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certainly weren't right. And what happens in August. It doesn't

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take much money to move alive, all right. The markets

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move really quickly when better start coming because they know

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they're not likely to get two way action on these games,

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so the lines move pretty fast. And in this instance,

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there are all kinds of circumstances this this game played

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out this way, that game, and we go to the games,

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we'll talk about what played out and why it played

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out that way. But the bottom line was we saw

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many of the wise guy moves, the sharp money get

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buried wrong for all kinds of different reasons. And therefore,

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you know you have a team with that the short dog,

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and they taken money boom, They're gonna be a favorite

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in the New York minute. And there are a handful

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of games that bounced back and forth, you know, the

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Giants Bills, the game where you know could have both

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sides of the favorite. You talked about Miami and Chicago

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and that late money coming for the Dolphins, very late money.

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You know, where Miami closed minus one. I'd kickoff in

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some books. So there weren't a whole lot of games

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where the line move mattered. There was one. We gave

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you an emergency betting alert last week at this time

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with the Raiders Seahawks, where the line move mattered a

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whole lot, and certainly Miami Chicago was a second game

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like that, where you bet it made a big difference

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in terms of whether you had a good Sunday of

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wagering or not so much.

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Speaker 2: Teddy, really quickly I wanted to ask because this was

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the discussion I had with some of the betters that

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I linked up with in Boston. And I was sitting there,

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let's call it ten minutes before Bengals Eagles kicked off,

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and I said, yeah, that's what I got about the Eagles.

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And I look at my buddy, who I know has

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Bengals plus one in pocket, like great number, and I go,

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are you gonna try to go for a middle? And

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he goes, that would be the smart thing to do.

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Speaker 1: About it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting there watching the TVs over my shoulder,

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and I just kept shaking my head. Should people watching

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the show should sharp better? Should other people be taking

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advantage of these huge possible middles in preseason?

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Speaker 3: So if you're getting the best of the number right,

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and then then you got you have the opportunity to

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get the best of the number the other way. There's

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certainly something to be said for that, you know, when

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you're catching four or fives, especially when you're crossing zero,

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there's a case to be made for betting one side

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early and then betting another side late. That said, for me,

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it always an every hedging question for me comes down

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to a single question. Do you like your original bet?

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Do you still like your original bet? And do you

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legitimately like the other side at the current number? And

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it just it's a matter of balancing those two questions.

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If you still like your original bet, you're fine. You

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don't need to do anything, you know. I hate throwing

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away a winner and turning it into a push, all right.

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That bugs the crap out of me. I got the

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best of the number. Oh well, now let's bet it

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the other way. So in jail, when I do that,

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I'll bet it back for less, you know, I'll put

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if I have a full unit, I'll put a half

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unit on the other side. If it's just all right,

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there's just the lines move sick points, let's at least

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take some value back the other way. That's something that

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I that I can and do do. Wouldn't argue with

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anyone else doing that as well. No, I'm not talking

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to do That was my picks yesterday. I'm just kidding,

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not really, but it's something that betters can and will do.

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But for me, it always comes down to do I

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still like that first bet. If I still like that

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first bet, I tend to do nothing, all right.

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Speaker 2: Teddy has been crushing NFL Week one the last ten years,

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thirty and eleven. That is seventy three percent against the spread,

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eight and two against the spread with big tickets, it's

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eighty percent. Guys, Teddy, talk to people right now, because

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there's still some time before the regular season of the

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NFL kicks off. You do a season win report every

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single summer and it is a must read.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, it's I spend a lot of

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time on the NFL. I spend a lot of time

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on the NFL in May and June, you know, post draft.

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My focus is let's get ready for the season, and

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I spend the next four to six weeks spending how

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long it takes, prepping up and going through every team,

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going through schedule analysis, going through personnel issues, going through

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coaching issues. I spent a lot of time with it

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over the summer early summer, and then we put up

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the win report, and obviously when it goes one oh

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three and fifty two over a twenty four year span,

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I'm doing something right. Seventeen and four with the five

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percent big tickets, those have been very, very good over

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the years. We won the five percent big ticket last

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year Saint Sunder. We had a winning report again last year.

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So it's not like all these numbers were you know,

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from way back in the day before the markets were

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as tight as they were as they are now. And

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the other beauty about this report is that you end

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up using it all year long. You know, you use

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the analysis. If a team that we like its off

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to a cold start, you're like, yeah, well we expect

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them to bounce back. If a team that we don't

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like us off to a hot start, like the Saints

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last year, we say, all right, tap the brakes a

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little bit, this team's not that good. So you can

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use that assessment and the write ups throughout the course

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of the entire season. So it's a report that has

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done Obviously, we talked about it very well over the years.

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It's available right now on my homepage wt WT dot

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buzz backslash t C at wagertalk dot com.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Teddy, let's get into NFL preseason Week two, starting

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Friday night at seven pm Eastern. We have the Titans,

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who opened up as a three and a half point favorite.

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Totals interesting seeing some under money come in now that

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it got ticked up to thirty seven open thirty five

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and a half. Now we're seeing some buy back here,

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the offshores break down this matchup and what we should

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Speaker 1: Both teams in the second week of the preseason.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to ask you didn't ask me

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about rookie qbs. Are we saving that for a little

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bit later in I am going to.

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Speaker 2: Say that I've got a rookie QB in mind in

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case we see in week two, because I'll talk about

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some of those maybe possible over reactions to one game

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Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, well, we'll talk about Shidry Sanders before this

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show is through, believe you me. So. Last night I

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wrote down all the lines that were available before I

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went to bed. We'll talk about where they moved overnight

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and the one thing that has happened this game. Again,

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it was three three and a half last night. It's

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still three to three and a half this morning. Total

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last night thirty five and a half, thirty six, thirty

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six and a half today thirty seven slash thirty seven

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and a half. So we have seen at least some

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over money for this game, not the only game, as

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talk about Tennessee and when it comes to misleading final scores. Look,

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the Titans weren't good against the Bucks. That being said,

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they were down thirteen to seven, driving to take the

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lead in the fourth quarter, and then you look up

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and they lose twenty nine to seven. You're like, what done?

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It was not a good fourth quarter for Tennessee. To

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put it mildly, cam Ward two drives, he had one

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three and out and then a touchdown drive. You know,

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Tennessee took the money against Tampa in that ballgame. The

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weird first half with only three possessions at once three

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and out, came back with a touchdown drive. He started

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to feel comfortable and was begging to go back in.

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But that was not in the cards. Ward quote. It

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was a lot of guys first time playing together. Felt

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good to come up with points. I wanted to go

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out for a third series, but coach Callahan had a

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plan for us. We'll stick to his plan. Behind cam Ward,

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pretty ugly for Tennessee. Brandon Allen no scoring drives. He

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threw a pick and he was stopped on the downs

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in the first drive of the third quarter inside the

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five yard line. With Tennessee playing for the league and

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Tim Boyle, a guy who has had preseing success in

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the passing guy who started in this league four of

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thirteen for twenty four yards, the offense didn't move at all.

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Punt punt, interception, picked six in boils for drives, only

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eleven first downs for Tennessee only three point six yards

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per play, Plain and simple. Lots of talk about Tennessee's

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offensive line, how's it gonna be, what's it going to

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look like? Well, that offensive line did not control the

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line of scrimmage, especially as the game progressed and second

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and third stringers were on the field. For Atlanta, they

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only ran thirty six plays in the game. The game

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got called early. They didn't get to fifty five minutes.

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Despite that, if you had a ticket, and all of

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a sudden, there's a play that was like a five

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minute play before the league announced that they were going

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to suspend it. As the players, you know, they snapped

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and then they all stood together and prayed after Detroit

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lost a defensive back carter off the field, and then

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the league said a right, we're going to we're going

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to cancel the game. That being said, Easton Stick first half,

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Emery Jones second half wasn't like they moved to football

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that great. They couldn't run the ball at all. Zero

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rushing first downs eleven for twenty two eleven carries twenty

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two yards. Wasn't pretty. And this is one worth noting.

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Raheem mar now oh one to four straight up, oh

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on to four against this spread in August as the

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Falcons tad coach over the last two seasons. Although we'll

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give you an asterisk for this lock. We don't know

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for this loss. We don't know how that fourth quarter

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would have played out were it not for the injury.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go on to the second game on

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Friday night. That would be Kansas City Seattle ten pm Eastern,

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and there's seven pm.

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Speaker 1: On the West Coast.

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Speaker 2: Open two and a half thirty nine and a half, Teddy,

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you mentioned those overs coming in right away. We're even

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starting to see some forty one.

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Speaker 1: And a half's pop up on my Odds.

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Speaker 2: Logic screen three, pretty much across the board until you

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get to some of the offshores and even South Point

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there in Vegas. Let's talk about this Chiefs team being

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favored here in the preseason.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about our first emergency bending alert of the show.

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Speaker 1: You talked about how.

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Speaker 2: To do the sound effects because Teddy did not like

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Dan's second siren he played this morning. He said it

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was too jarring. So I gotta do the sirens. I'm

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gonna get some glow sticks. It'll be like my nightclubs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want like a wake up alarm that's

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gonna make people like the last, especially on Monday morning.

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That's the last thing anybody anybody wants to hear, is

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that particular? You know, I want something light and fruity.

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You know he's right, he is right. Yeah. So that

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being said, if you like this total, it's already moved,

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all right. You can still find forty ones right now.

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It's going higher, all right. If you like Kansas City,

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the two and a half are disappearing, already seeing threes

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out there. There is still two and a half is

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available right now, Kansas City two and a half over

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forty one. Both of those two lines. I'm not convinced

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we're gonna be seeing later this week. Last night was

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two and a half and forty and a half. So

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we've seen movement, you know, the markets have tilted that direction.

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We haven't seen the broader move for every book getting

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pounded yet. I would not be surprised if we do.

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For Seattle up Drew Locke moved the football whole first half.

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He did throw a red zone interception, and that's really

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the only reason that it wasn't a blowout. They still

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had sixteen to three at the break with a missed

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extra point, but it could have been you know, twenty

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four to three at halftime, where not for that one

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lock I in t Jalen Milroe came in and the

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second half thirty eight rushing yards, including a twenty seven

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yard scramble. That's bet on for a third stringer in preseason,

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and it's hard to run an aux hard to run

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consistently in August at the offensive line combinations well, Seattle

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thirty two carries, one hundred and seventy yards, five point

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three yards per carry, ten rushing first downs. Those were

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good numbers. And there's a open competition, not open competition,

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but there's right guard and center are both still in

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flex in flux for Seattle and head coach Mike MacDonald

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said that the competition will continue this week. So the

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extra urgency for this offensive line. Of course, a tie

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for the Sea Bags in that game, Mike McDonald quote,

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you never want to tie a football game. That kind

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of stinks. As for Kansas City, Mahomes let a thirteen

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yard touchdown drive one for one for one yard after

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an Arizona turnover. With his passing, I would expect to

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see him more this week. Then Gardner Minshew came in

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two drives, one touchdowns and Bailey Zappy Zappy was not

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good through a couple of picks. Chris Ola toucan six

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of thirteen for thirty nine. He had two drives to

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win the game, with the chance to win the game,

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and the offense did not work and they did not

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come close to field goal range. Worth noting file away

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for next year. Andy Reid now oh and three straight

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up ats in preseason openers the last three years and

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oh he went oh and three ats last year, so

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it's now an oh to four ats run for Reed

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and company. In August, his quote, there were some good things.

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I thought the starters played well when they were in

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they were sharp. After that we were too sloppy, too

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many penalties going backwards. So read showing some urgence for

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this week after a sloppy performance from everyone after the

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starters last week, that tends to be bet on and

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again we're aready seeing that in the markets. The two

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and a half, they're becoming threes. If you like KC

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bet it now.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for the delay.

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Speaker 2: I am on Amazon buying one of those like red

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truck lights. I think that's what I need. I think

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I need a prop for the show, Taddy, I think.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. That's what Gona job is. Gonna

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hold up the light. Then it's not so jarring and

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it's funny.

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Speaker 2: You guys again, tell us in the comment section what

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you think would be the best you You guys run

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the show, not me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just here trying to pretend that I, you know.

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Speaker 2: Really really love the NFL. College football is right around

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the corner. Teddy covers and you know what you did

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really well in college football last year. Let's talk about

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some of your big tickets in regards to the plays

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that you're making and what people can expect. They're at

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wager talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, the big tickets across sports have

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been really good. I'm close to sixty percent dating back

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to twenty twenty one counting I think it's fifty nine

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point four fifty nine point five percent counting every five

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percent big ticket play in every sport since twenty twenty one.

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College football has been particularly good. Six and zero the

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last six tries that dates back to twenty twenty three.

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I think put out a lot of them last year.

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Very selective with the five percent big tickets in both

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college football and the NFL, but when I post them,

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they've been very, very good. And as you talked about

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that one hundred percent run that dates back to twenty

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twenty three on the five percent, Hopefully we'll find something

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for Week one. Have not posted a five percent big

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ticket just yet when it comes to this year's college football,

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but it's something better should pay attention to.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go in to Saturday, the first game

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there at one o'clock and actually have a handful of

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one o'clock games. It's going to be almost like a

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real NFL Sunday Teddy, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Indy opened minus

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four and a half total thirty eight and a half.

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Here on my Odds Logic screen six six and a

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half Teddy thirty nine and a half. Again, we're seeing

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these overs coming in. But man, are the wise guys

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just laying the favorites and hope that maybe we see

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some regression again from last week. I know they took

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a beating, but this is interesting to see all of

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these size of favorites get bet up early.

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Speaker 3: So the teams are favored are favorite for a reason.

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And you know there's issues right now in Green Bay.

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That's why they're fading the Colts in this ball game.

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Last night it was four and a half. Thirty eight

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and a half pretty much painted across the board. Today

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it's six. They're even six and a half out there

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right now, thirty nine and a half. So obviously the

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overnight money has come with the favorite and for the over.

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One of these things, I don't know if it's worth anything,

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but Matt Lafleur twenty twenty two twenty twenty three, twenty

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twenty four. He lost off every preseason win and won

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off every preseason loss. The Packers against the Jets this

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past weekend did not look good. They allowed a fumble

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return touchdown Jordan Love, two drives, two punts, only one

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to five passing. Malique Willis had a sack fumble return

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for touchdown and only led one field goal drive. You

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know Sean Clifford and then Taylor Eigersma. And I'll tell

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you this, when Taylor Eigersma is on the field, you're

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down by twenty. You don't need to watch anymore. I

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did not move to football. Sixty four net passing yards

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between the four quarterbacks, one of ten on third downs.

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But what's the issue. I'm not sure the turgency here.

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They were without four of their top six receivers against

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the Jets, very banged up receiving corps. They're without their

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starting quarterbacks Nate Hobbson Zavier McKinney for the rest of

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the preseason. You're like, they got off, gained four three

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to one eighty eight. You know, the Jets forced four

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sex they had a pair of first half takeaways. Lafloor

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said he's not likely to play Love anymore in the preseason,

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he did say he may push a little harder in practice.

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Lafloor's quote after the game, quote, that was a humbling experience.

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Definitely not what we want to put out there. I

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don't care if preseason, regular season doesn't matter to me.

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It was just sloppy football. Too many penalties, drops, mistackles,

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bad decision making, and it really showed up in every phase.

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If you do that, you're gonna get your ass kicked.

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And that's exactly what happened. So the money's come against

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Green Bay already. We know they're banged up. They're banged

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up on both sides of the ball, receiving corps and

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cornerback room, and that's certainly an issue. But I would

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say there's more urgency than usual for a team coming

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off that level of performance with those type of coach

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quotes from Laflora. But again, we're not gonna see Jordan Love,

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I don't think, which is part of the reason why

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we've seen Indy money. The Colts took a ton of

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money against Baltimore. The defense picked off the Ravens on

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the opening drive led to a field goal. Everything's going great,

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and then Anthony Richardson got hurt on the second drive

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and the tone completely changed for Indy. That was what

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minus won to minus six in that game. You know,

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they allowed a punt return touchdown, They allowed a long

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kickoff return to set up another touchdown. Daniel Jones was

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okay twenty one for a buck forty four. Riley Leonard

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had lots of playing time in the second half. He

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threw a pick and then he got stopped on downs

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at Baltimore Territory. The last two drives the game on

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the line, Colts had a chance, but Riley Leonard did

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not get the job done. You know, quarterbacks coach Cam

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Turner talking about the Richardson injury, I don't think it's

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a big deal. He looked like he was gripping at normal.

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Anytime you put something in a throwing hams a little

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bit different, uncomfortable. Richardson was back in practice already, so

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I would expect he'll get plenty of playing time this

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week against the Packers. And of course when you have

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a QB competition for the starters, well the betting markets

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are interested in that. Hence the money for Indy last week,

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and hence the money for Indy that we've seen already

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this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, New England at Minnesota, New England, Sorry, Minnesota.

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This is where it gets a little weird for me, Teddy.

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So just you know, I've got my Odds Logic screen open.

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Johnny Detroit told me that bet War was one of

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the sharper books. Of course, I've got super Book in there.

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I've got Circa DraftKings Fandal, Pinnacle. So open is one

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and a half for Minnesota, but one of the sharpest books,

475
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,640
and South Point are pick them here. Even though Minnesota

476
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,279
opened up as a one and a half way favorite,

477
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,839
New England's.

478
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 1: Pretty much yeah, one and a half across the board.

479
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 2: It's just weird for me to see this thirty eight

480
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,079
and a half up to thirty nine and a half.

481
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,480
Of course a pinnacle because they're getting ahead of the market.

482
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240
Talk to me about when you see sharp books here

483
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:30,000
on some of these screens completely different one and a

484
00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,000
half points off of the market, or is it really

485
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000
not that big of the deal of a deal excuse me.

486
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,680
In the NFL, because, as John Murray likes to say,

487
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:38,519
NFL games don't land one.

488
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: Well in the preseason. In preseasons past one and two

489
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:45,839
matter a lot in the NFL. Now with the games

490
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,839
we saw two ties this weekend, all right, and we

491
00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:52,440
didn't see any games decided by less than a field goal.

492
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,240
So that's one that stood out to me is maybe

493
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,799
things are shifting a little bit. That being said, is

494
00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:00,640
going to take more than one week of data for

495
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,960
me to be comfortable with that. But with the yes,

496
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:04,960
you don't have to play overtime, we'll just call the

497
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,359
game off and the tie rule, that certainly changed the

498
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,319
way it plays out in the second half and the

499
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,279
fourth quarter of many of these ballgames. Last night, what

500
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,680
did we see was Minnesota minus one and a half

501
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,519
total thirty eight slash thirty eight and a half. So

502
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,559
really haven't seen that much in that regard the Patriots

503
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,440
against the Command. If there was heavy New England money,

504
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,680
I couldn't figure it out why the money came in

505
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,319
New England. I took the value with Washington. That was

506
00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:35,039
as wrong aside as I'll have all year. The value

507
00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:37,319
was gone after the opening kickoff with return for a

508
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000
touchdown Oaks. He got a touchdown. No, give that touchdown

509
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,119
away and the passer pretty jacked up for like Rabel

510
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,240
in his home debut. Seven scoring drives for New England

511
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,359
compared to two punts. That's good for a preseason game.

512
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,279
They hung forty eight points. You don't see that a lot.

513
00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:53,720
In August. Drake May had a touchdown drive. Josh Dobbs

514
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,880
had three drives field goal, field goal, touchdown. Ben Woolridge

515
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,440
was the guy I wanted to bet against in the game.

516
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,599
It was alread twenty seventy three, and by the way,

517
00:25:02,599 --> 00:25:04,599
he led a pair of fourth quarter touchdown drive. Not

518
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:08,079
the bet against that I thought. He was. Washington thirteen penalties,

519
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,880
New England two. So much of that was the Commander's

520
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,759
looking pretty awful. That being said, there's some excitement in

521
00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:20,279
New England this year, no question about it, and Drake

522
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,359
May at least a part of that. For Minnesota, JJ

523
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,160
McCarthy that if nice field goal drive, Sam Howell was

524
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,880
pretty good. He had a six minute field goal drive

525
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,319
in a seven minute touchdown drive before halftime. Brett Rippen

526
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,839
came in three fourth to third quarter drives and unmoved

527
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:36,960
the football. Max Brosper came into the fourth. He moved

528
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,000
the ball a little bit. But the key in that

529
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,960
game against Houston was Brian Flores's defense. Just controlled the

530
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,920
flow throughout. I couldn't understand the over money that came

531
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,640
in that ballgame. I'm not betting. I'm gonna look at

532
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,200
bet Minnesota games over the total right now. And note

533
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,960
that this game thirty eight thirty eight and a half

534
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,079
last night, still thirty eight thirty and a half today.

535
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,720
This is not one of the games that's taken over money.

536
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,839
Here's the quote from Kevin O'Connell about JJ McCarthy, who

537
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:04,400
look pretty good. Quote. We don't do a lot of

538
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,160
game planning for these games, but we also want to

539
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,480
give our guys a chance to go out there and

540
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,359
have success. There are going to be some plays where

541
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480
guys have to rise up and make some plays above

542
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:14,640
the scheme. He did that a couple times with his legs.

543
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:16,799
It didn't really feel like he put the ball in

544
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,400
harm's risk very much in that sequence. So certainly McCarthy

545
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:26,920
showing promise for Minnesota, and right now again this line

546
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,279
a little bit of Patriots money, not doing a whole

547
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:29,960
lot just yet.

548
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the next handful of games.

549
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: Here Carolina at Houston, Houston up to two and a half.

550
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,359
Here at some spots, Teddy after opening a very small

551
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,319
half point favorite thirty seven and a half, and even

552
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,119
some thirty eight starting to pop up thirty eight and

553
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,440
a half.

554
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,839
Speaker 1: There are draftings in regards to the total.

555
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and last night we're looking at anything from one

556
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:53,119
and a half to two and a half on this

557
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,279
game total thirty seven and a half. So we have seen,

558
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,839
you know, really not a lot. The markets are still

559
00:26:57,839 --> 00:27:02,519
deciding where this game should be. Carolina versus Cleveland. Bryce

560
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,799
Young had a touchdown drive. Andy Dalton played after all

561
00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:08,640
the second quarter three drives in the third quarter, Dave

562
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,200
Canalis was really trying to get him a score and

563
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:15,279
he couldn't. Dalton couldn't move the offense against the backups

564
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:19,480
for Cleveland. That's a concern. I left down twenty one

565
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,519
to seven after throwing an interception on first and ten

566
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,200
from their own thirty eight. Jake Plumber, the rookie had

567
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,319
of Louisville late, led a late field goal drive that

568
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,200
wasn't easy or pretty. They had a muff punt that

569
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:37,079
led to a Brown touchdown. The Brown's offense didn't score

570
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,839
in the first three possessions when facing Carolina starting defense.

571
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:43,279
That's something we'll talk about again in the shoot or

572
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:48,400
sis Anders narrative again, three possessions against Carolina starters didn't work.

573
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720
That being said, two and fifty one yards of offense,

574
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,160
six penalties, two turnovers wasn't clean. Canalis quote, part of

575
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,759
our play style is playing smart, and I don't feel

576
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,680
like we did that. For Houston, Davis Mills got a

577
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,599
touchdown drive, then Keton Slovas came in, had one field

578
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,279
goal in the first drive after halftime. Slovas did not

579
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,920
move the ball effectively. Then Graham Mertz was pretty awful.

580
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Like again, if you watched them in college, Graham Mertz

581
00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:19,000
is not an NFL quarterback. Slovas is not an NFL quarterback.

582
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,440
Mertz three interceptions on each of the game's final three drives.

583
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,839
To Mecca Ryans quote, I was really pleased with our

584
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,599
first offensive group. Yes, I liked everyone, just being very

585
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,960
comic opposed, Davis did an excellent job of driving the

586
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,240
ball down the field, commanded the huddle, putting the ball

587
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:41,880
in good placement. Worth noting that injury to CJ. Gardner

588
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Johnson isn't as serious as it looked. Their star safety,

589
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,440
their star fore agent pickup could be ready to play

590
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:50,720
in Week one. That said, another issue in the secondary

591
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,720
of their safety. Jimmy Ward got arrested for the second

592
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,240
time in the last two months. They picked up Jalen

593
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,519
Mills or signed Jalen Mills as a result of ninety

594
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,599
one career starts he played for the Jets last year,

595
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:05,880
and it's an intriguing veteran presence for Hugheston other Dee

596
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,839
from the side of the football.

597
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, Teddy, I had asked you yesterday after seeing

598
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,599
a really funny tweet about you know what we were

599
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,519
initial reactions right of a player and our friends at

600
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:20,400
slashboards talked about Quinn yours and I wanted to just write, guys,

601
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:22,720
did you not watch any Texas games? But I didn't

602
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,720
because I get too much flack about that. When I

603
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,160
send it to you, you immediately assumed I wanted to

604
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,000
talk about Shadur Sanders and we're going to But I

605
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:33,880
was actually referring to Jackson Dart and how everybody was

606
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,279
losing their minds. You're right, though I was just on

607
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:38,799
social media. Everybody was Shugar is going to be the

608
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:42,079
starter week one, and we're seeing this crazy. In my

609
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,880
opinion over reaction, Philadelphia though a one point favorite. That's

610
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,519
what they opened up that still across the board, totals

611
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:50,200
ticked up a little bit from thirty six and a

612
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,119
half seen some thirty seven and a halfs and even

613
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,160
some thirty eights.

614
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,119
Speaker 1: Talk to me about what we.

615
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,519
Speaker 2: Saw week one from Shadur Sanders and why everybody needs

616
00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:59,359
to pump the brakes.

617
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:05,599
Speaker 3: Ye out, Look, we're interested when a rookie quarterback comes

618
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:09,079
in and moves a football against opposing first string defense. Absolutely,

619
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,160
that's not what happened with should Or Sanders. Should Or

620
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,839
Sanders faced a basic defense. It wasn't like they were blitzing,

621
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,039
and when the starters were on the field, should Or

622
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,119
Sanders was ineffective. Once the starters left the field, should

623
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,559
Or Sanders moved to football and everything was fine. But

624
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:32,000
starter versus starter three drives no points with Sanders on

625
00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:34,880
the field. Jackson Dart was pretty good, you know, I mean,

626
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,960
but yes me, which, yes me? Which quarterback impressed me? Which?

627
00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:40,240
And I don't know. Is Tanner McKee a rookie? I

628
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,839
don't think so. But he was a player of the weekend.

629
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,519
You know, nobody looked better than Tanner McKee at QB

630
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,000
this past week and for Philadelphia twenty to twenty five

631
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:51,000
for two fifty two. After Philly bell behind early since

632
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,279
he starters versus Eagles backups, McKee burned the sharp money

633
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,119
and then he had the dtr. You know, Thompson Robinson

634
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,160
wasn't a great but he had a touchdown drive came

635
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,440
after a turnover and a fourth down penalty gave him

636
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,920
a free first and goal, so he didn't get him

637
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,160
in the end zone. Kyle McCord in the fourth quarter

638
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,799
couldn't move the football at all. Worth noting in practice

639
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,440
yesterday Pro Bowl left guard for Philadelphia land and Dickerson

640
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:21,319
was helped. That was carted off the field. That's an

641
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:24,200
impact injury. That being said, Philadelphia is deep on the

642
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,279
oppositive line on the defensive line, much much deeper than

643
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,599
most teams. And for Cleveland, I mean, look, Sanders was good.

644
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,279
Tyler Huntley was good. Sanders on the field for forty

645
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:43,480
five plays. You know his quote. You know, I'm comfortable

646
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,319
with being uncomfortable. So that's what it is. I've got

647
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,359
pockets of finding my rhythm, and I got into that

648
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000
quicker regardless of anything. Overall, it felt like me out there.

649
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,400
Did I play up to far to par? No, I

650
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,119
don't feel like I did. But overall, the main goal

651
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:02,279
was to win, and that's honestly what we did. Again,

652
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:05,599
three dives against Carolina starters, no points in there didn't

653
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,839
move to football, and that quote saying the main goal

654
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,039
was to win stood out to me. Kevin Stefanski, prior

655
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:14,559
to this weekend, had two wins in ten preseason games

656
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,200
in twenty twenty two. The brown sat the majority of

657
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,319
their starters. Their main goal is not to win. Now,

658
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,640
Sanders had been the quarterback, the fourth string quarterback throughout

659
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,759
camp for Cleveland, so he's getting to work with better

660
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:29,720
guys than he'd been playing with. But the fancy's hopeful

661
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,680
that Pickett and Gabriel can he Pickt Dylan Gabriel will

662
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:36,960
both be able to fully participate in joint practices this

663
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:41,359
week with Philadelphia, which I'll say, we'll see how many

664
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,319
either how much action either of them two gets in

665
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,359
the game. But just about all the games this week

666
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,599
we're talking about, there will be joint practice sessions. Those

667
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,960
joint practice sessions. Again, the team that looks great in

668
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,119
joint practice isn't always the team that's going to bring

669
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:59,319
it in the game. Because those guys got their meaningful

670
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,640
reps in already.

671
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep on cruising through the rest of

672
00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,559
these games, steady, Miami Detroit, Miami up to.

673
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: Three and a half. I can't believe this one's been up.

674
00:33:11,559 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Bet up two points already, thirty five and a half,

675
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,160
the opener thirty six and a half, thirty seven and

676
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,839
a half, thirty seven. As I look across my Odds

677
00:33:18,839 --> 00:33:23,000
Logic screen, Miami yesterday looked fairly decent. Now again, I

678
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:25,079
was just kind of perusing right when you're on the airplane,

679
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:27,200
your channel flipping, you're watching different games.

680
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:31,759
Speaker 1: But from what I saw, not bad offensively yet.

681
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,039
Speaker 2: Then they just kind of stalled in the second half

682
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:37,880
when they made some changes. If you had Miami, condolences, unless,

683
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000
of course, you had the plus one. As you mentioned,

684
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,880
the Detroit Lions game got cut short. Talk about this

685
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,240
one in what you expect to see from both teams.

686
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,039
Speaker 3: So the Miami game versus the Bears had insane last

687
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,480
two minute shenanigans. You know, if you want to talk

688
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,640
about something that you don't expect to see. There was

689
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,000
a scenario late in the game where Chicago in the

690
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,720
regular season, they kicked the field goal fourth down and

691
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,599
four from more than about the thirty eight or the

692
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:05,880
forty yard liner. So instead in the preseason they took

693
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920
a shot down the field, it looked like a pass interference,

694
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,840
didn't get the call, so then Miami got the ball.

695
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,159
They too, were in the position where in the regular

696
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,760
season they'd have kicked, but they're like, eh, it's a

697
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,280
tie game. There's twenty seconds left, two cares. They chucked

698
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,280
it up and they were stopped on fourth down with

699
00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:26,960
led to one more chance for Chicago in the closing seconds,

700
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,119
and again they couldn't score for the second time either.

701
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,400
We'll talk about that would come down to the Bears.

702
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,880
There was heavy late money for Miami when if they

703
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,280
found the markets, found out who was going to play,

704
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,519
and obviously where you bet it mattered the Bears minus

705
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:42,239
three down and picked. There was even some Bears plus

706
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,679
one out there that I didn't get, but I wish

707
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,880
I would have had. With the game finished with the tie,

708
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,880
So Zach Wilson took four sacks on thirteen dropbacks. Quinn

709
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920
ewers and I bet Chicago because I wanted to bet

710
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,079
against Quinn yours and he was every bit to bet against.

711
00:34:58,079 --> 00:35:00,199
I thought he'd be The offense didn't move. It was

712
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,599
five of eighteen. Miami wasn't good in the second half

713
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:07,920
of that ball game, but the Bears found ways to

714
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,280
screw things up. They just did. It was one of

715
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:20,679
those type of contests Detroit. The game ended early, obviously,

716
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239
after the Lions Debec got carted off the field. They're

717
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,840
not playing any starters here. In August, Hendon Hooker had

718
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,800
a rough Hall of Fame game. He said he had

719
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,559
a lot to prove this next week after getting the

720
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:34,480
start and what happened, fumble three and out, one first

721
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:36,960
down and out, and then a sack fumble before he

722
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,719
got benched against Atlanta, got thirty eight yards on ten

723
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,199
pass attempts. Kyle Allen was much better against the Falcons

724
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,559
third and four stringers. He played like a veteran seven

725
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:50,400
of eight for a buck twenty and two. But we're

726
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,079
expecting something from Hendon Hooker that we haven't seen either

727
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:58,960
of the first two weeks. Clearly the markets are saying

728
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,039
Hooker may not be that we trust. With all this

729
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,920
money pouring in on Miami right now, the threes they're gone,

730
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,679
the three and a half they're gone. I'm seeing four

731
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,480
slash four and a half as we speak. At many books. Sorry,

732
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,159
there's still some three and a halfs out there, but literally,

733
00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,599
this line is moving as we're talking. Was as low

734
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,119
as one and a half last night. Total was as

735
00:36:18,159 --> 00:36:22,320
low as thirty five and a half last night. If

736
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,119
you like Miami, you've already missed the best of the number.

737
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,119
Well you're muted, Kelly.

738
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: I am muted because I was just commenting on Slack

739
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,880
about how we have one thousand of you guys.

740
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: Watching live on APS. So shout out to all of

741
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,280
you guys.

742
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: Shout out to all of you guys here on the

743
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,000
wager Talk YouTube channel and of course on Instagram. We

744
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:46,000
appreciate you guys. It is eleven thirty here in the

745
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,920
morning on the East coast. It's eight thirty on the

746
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,679
West Coast on a Monday, So shout out to you guys.

747
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,639
This is why we do this show. San Francisco plus

748
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:56,559
six and a half now, Teddy, This one opened three

749
00:36:56,639 --> 00:37:00,199
and a half in favor of the Raiders. Total been

750
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,000
ticked up as well to forty and a half. Pete

751
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,360
Carroll was interesting last week. I saw a sign making

752
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,280
fun of Geno Smith, and he got got a little

753
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,159
snappy there and said we should be giving him some

754
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:14,639
more credit. Is Gino going to be starting in this

755
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:16,719
game and that's why we're seeing them as such a

756
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,719
sizeable favorite now?

757
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And honestly, I'm comfortable in emergency betting alert this

758
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,719
one as well, because if you'll like it, if you

759
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,920
like Las Vegas again, it's already last night we were

760
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,920
seeing in this game. There were three and a halfs

761
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,679
at six this morning, I expected to go to seven

762
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,280
or higher. All right. It was heavy Denver money against

763
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,199
San Francisco plus one. It was high at minus seven,

764
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,320
close six, and they of most books, the forty nine

765
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,519
ers led nine to nothing after the first quarter, and

766
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:48,559
then it was a thirty to nothing. Broncos runout Mac

767
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:50,639
Jones opening touchdown drives in a three and out, that

768
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:54,599
an interception, then he got benched. Carter Bradley from South Alabama,

769
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,559
then Tanner Mordecai from Wisconsin. Neither guy an NFL quarterback.

770
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,559
They got three quarters were the playing time last week

771
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,519
and didn't produce a point three of eight three point

772
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:06,800
eight yards per play on offense, one of twelve on

773
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:13,239
third downs, I know, minus four turnovers. Kyle Shanahan. It

774
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,000
was frustrating. I liked how we started out, but after

775
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,440
that there wasn't too much of an excited about. We

776
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,920
didn't get many first downs, four turnover, three picks to fumble.

777
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,880
We made too many mistakes Shanahan, there's no urgency in

778
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:26,800
winning preseason games. It's not a bet on qb Rotation

779
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,280
and San Fran like another team we're going to talk

780
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,960
about later, is a banged up football team, and the

781
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,199
forty nine ers a team with big goals for this season.

782
00:38:37,199 --> 00:38:39,360
When you're banged up in early August, those guys are

783
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,159
not going to be on the field against the Raiders. Now.

784
00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:44,760
The Raiders are working through different offers the line combinations

785
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,079
throughout camp, and they had offered the line problems throughout

786
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,000
against Seattle. Gino only competed one pass, Aston john T

787
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,719
had negative one rushing yards. They mercifully set them after

788
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,360
one drive before they got killed. Aidan O'Connell had a

789
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,800
great camp and put them in a real game, real game,

790
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,199
and he threw two picks neither which was pretty The

791
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,239
rookie cam Miller from North scot to State actually moved

792
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,119
the football well on the fourth quarter and two touchdown

793
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,840
drives in the fourth and of course, if you paid

794
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,719
attention to the emergency line and betting alerts last week

795
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,239
and bet the Raiders right at the get go. You

796
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,639
were able to cash a ticket with the Raiders. The

797
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:20,719
defense got cash pretty good in that game. Versus the run,

798
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,679
versus the past third down sone of them were pretty

799
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:24,639
They had a block field goal with a chance to

800
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,239
win on the final play of the game. Pete Carroll,

801
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:30,559
who's a guy who's interested in winning? In August quote?

802
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,000
We started really poorly. We didn't run the ball well

803
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,880
in the first half. We didn't really do anything very well,

804
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:36,920
but we stayed close and it was an opportunity for

805
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,719
us to face that and then come back because he

806
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,000
was doing the second half, and it was a marvelous

807
00:39:41,079 --> 00:39:44,239
second half. Carrol always finds positive things to say. That's

808
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,119
why his teams love him so much.

809
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,079
Speaker 2: All right, Teddy, let's keep it on going. We got

810
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,639
eight games left. I started the monologue off way too long.

811
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,920
New York Jets, New York Giants. Ooh, this has been

812
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,000
a fun line. Flip Jets open one and a half

813
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:03,159
now plus three total up to thirty nine and a half.

814
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean last night there were pick'ems for the Jets.

815
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,280
There were one and a half, there were two and

816
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,039
a half. This has been pounded since we got on air.

817
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:14,719
It was still the Giants one and a half when

818
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,280
we got on air, and now we're seeing threes and

819
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,559
threes and a half. So the emergency betting alert has

820
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:21,480
come and gone for this bogain. We have seen over

821
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,119
money thirty seven and a half up to thirty eight

822
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:30,920
and a half for Jets Giants And sorry, I lost

823
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,800
my Jets Giants notes somewhere. Oh yeah, Justin Fields led

824
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,159
a touchdown drive against the Green Bay backups. Brady cook

825
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,239
At a nice drive. He got stopped on downs that nothing.

826
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:41,280
Adrian Martinez played the whole second half. He was pretty good.

827
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,639
Tyrod Taylor knee injury has kept him sidelined. I don't

828
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,039
think he's gonna play this week either. They didn't score

829
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,639
on a fumble return touchdowns, The defense was excellent, only

830
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,239
allowed one of ten on third downs, and they gained

831
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,039
nine point one yards per pass attempt a team that

832
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,000
had struggled to throw the football throughout practice. Well, the Jets,

833
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,960
the Marcus only liked what they did this past week,

834
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,559
but the Giants that maybe Marcus likely did more. Russell

835
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:13,199
Wilson looked good a field goal drive. Jackson Dart led

836
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,159
three scoring drives. Jameis Winston is supposed to move the

837
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:18,039
both ball in the third quarter, well, he had pun

838
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:21,159
punt interception called back on defensive off sides that led

839
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:23,960
to a touchdown. Tommy DeVito was slinging it in the

840
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,000
fourth quarter versus third string defenders. De Vito a bet

841
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,960
on QB in August. The quotes coming out of the

842
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,519
g men, You know, Brian the ball quote, it's about

843
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:37,760
what I thought Jackson Dart would do. He's improved since

844
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,159
he's been here, still got a long long way to go.

845
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,400
So as far as good as Dart looked, obviously not

846
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,760
as good as the stats might indicate. According to the

847
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,440
head coach, the Giants clearly have a betting a QB

848
00:41:56,559 --> 00:41:59,480
rotation that the betting markets like, and they've taken all

849
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,840
the early money at three. I'm not convinced it goes

850
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,599
to three and a half or higher. So if you've

851
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:08,239
missed the very best of the number. If you liked

852
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,760
the g men that said I don't, I wouldn't talk

853
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,239
you out of taking the minus three right now. If

854
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,000
you like the Giants, you're not getting crushed when it

855
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,119
comes to line money.

856
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:20,079
Speaker 2: All right, Teddy, let's go to La Chargers. Rams Chargers

857
00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:21,960
opened as a two and a half point favorite total

858
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,360
thirty five and a half. They've taken some money, some

859
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,880
three some three and a halfs and although up to

860
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,639
thirty seven and a half on some of these shops

861
00:42:29,639 --> 00:42:31,639
in the odds lodging screen, Yeah.

862
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 3: It was mostly three and a half. It was almost

863
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,679
all three and a half last night, three and a

864
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:36,280
half with two and a halfs of percent. So there

865
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,400
was one book that I had a two and a half,

866
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,320
one prominent book that went else at three and a half.

867
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Already last night thirty six and a half. Yere thirty

868
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,119
seven and a half's out there. The total has been

869
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,760
met up. Tyler Heineke got the job for the Charger.

870
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,159
It got the start for the Chargers. Three drives, two

871
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:53,599
punts in a safety wasn't pretty. Trey Lance wasn't like

872
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:55,400
the Hall of Fame game. He didn't lead one touchdown

873
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,079
drive before halftime, played the whole third quarter, two the

874
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:01,760
office wasn't great. And then DJ on the last drive,

875
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,360
he only threw one pass, but it was a beauty

876
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,000
set up a forty one yard completion that set up

877
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,000
a touchdown. That being said, you know, they only had

878
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,280
three passing first downs, which as few as you'll ever

879
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,320
see for a team with a winning cover. I was

880
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,519
worried about the Rashaun Slater injury, how it was gonna

881
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,920
affect the Chargers until eleven rushing first down to one

882
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,360
hundred and forty eight rushing yards four point four yards

883
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,119
per carry. They have a joint practice with the Rams

884
00:43:24,159 --> 00:43:25,800
on Wednesday. I read a report that it could be

885
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:31,360
canceled because there are too many Chargers injuries, and yet

886
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:37,559
they're taking the money here Rams, Stets and Bennett played

887
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:39,639
the entire game. That's bet on. They have thirty eight

888
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:42,119
carries for one hundred and eighty one yards, that's bet on.

889
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,920
The quotes coming out of LA are all about Matthew Stafford.

890
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:50,559
He threw sixty eight passes at the Rams practice facility

891
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,480
during the workout on Saturday morning, a step in the

892
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:58,519
right direction. LA won with TETs and Bennett. But they're

893
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,800
not a team that gives a whop about their losses.

894
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,519
In August, and you know, I can't lay three and

895
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:08,119
a half for the Charters though they've got injuries, and

896
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,679
cluster injuries matter more than any other factor at this

897
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,760
time of the year when it comes to preseason success.

898
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:16,679
Speaker 2: All right, Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, the Bucks minus two and

899
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,519
a half at opener and pretty much still there, maybe

900
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:21,639
minus one twenty there at Pinnacle thirty.

901
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:22,039
Speaker 1: Seven and a half.

902
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: Some thirty eights popping up their teddy talk about what

903
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,800
we saw from the Bucks last week against the Panthers,

904
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,159
and maybe maybe Skyler Thompson's a good NFL.

905
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 3: Quarterback against third string defenses. You love a guy like

906
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:39,199
Skyler Thompson. You know again who's good. Well, you're good

907
00:44:39,199 --> 00:44:42,039
if you in theory, if you have some experience, you've

908
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:44,639
seen NFL defenses, you have an offtive line that can

909
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:46,920
protect you a little bit, and or the opposing team's

910
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,519
not blitzing and you're facing third string or fourth string defenders. Yeah,

911
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:54,239
Skyler Thompson's great been on quarterback in August. Last night,

912
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,360
this line was in at Tampa minus one, last one

913
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,159
and a half, thirty seven and a half. This is

914
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:01,199
one game that has not seen over money. For what

915
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,880
it's worth, the Steelers the Marcus paid the fate of

916
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,079
the hell out of Pittsburgh in their opener plus one

917
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,760
to plus six. They were sitting starters. Their depth is

918
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,800
fine now. Mason Rudolph again bet on duo in August

919
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,920
with Skyler Thompson. Don't know who's going to be QB

920
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,280
this week, but that's what we saw last week. Now,

921
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,800
Tomlin had been eighteen and four straight up from twenty

922
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960
seventeen to twenty twenty three in the preseason, then last

923
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,599
year oh and three straight up and against the spread. Well,

924
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,159
Pittsburgh got back to their winning ways in Week one

925
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,719
of this year's preseason. For Tampa Bay, you know, money

926
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,280
poured in against the Titans. They were plus against Tampa

927
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:41,920
on the Titans, the Bucks were plus one at the open.

928
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,639
There was highest plus four to close one hundred and

929
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,320
seventy eight rushing yards for Tampa Bay. Though they had

930
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,239
an injury. Richard White got hurt in that game. The

931
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,800
d forced three turnovers and basically dominated the game. I

932
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,519
wanted to bet against this qbduo Kyle Trask in the

933
00:45:56,519 --> 00:45:59,280
first half Connor Basilac, and the second half. Baseilac wasn't good,

934
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
only forty eight passing yards. I wanted bet against him

935
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:07,079
for a good reason. But Tennessee didn't do anything unfortunately,

936
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:11,280
and Trask was pretty good tyle Todd Bowles. I thought

937
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,960
he played very well. It made some time he throws

938
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,199
down the field. He was poised in the parket practice

939
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,440
wasn't a shot at this past week, but he played

940
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,679
well in the game, all right.

941
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: Keeping it moving here. Baltimore taking on Dallas.

942
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,639
Speaker 2: Baltimore up to three now thirty seven and a half

943
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,599
popping up on the screen as well, Teddy talk about

944
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:34,800
what we're expecting to see from the Ravens and the Cowboys.

945
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, look ahead, Sorry, last night line was split between

946
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,239
two and a half and three for this ballgame, total

947
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,199
thirty six and a half. Look at that. We have

948
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,800
not seen the over money for this game either, Baltimore.

949
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,719
It was a little bit fraudulent. The final score in there,

950
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,280
whin they had a punt return touchdown. They had a

951
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,599
long kickoff return that set up another touchdown. Devin Leary

952
00:46:57,679 --> 00:47:00,199
three of twelve for forty three yards. Cooper rushed with

953
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,760
four for thirteen yards combined, zero touchdowns, two interceptions, sacked twice.

954
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,400
He won by two touchdowns against the spread with a

955
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,719
negative turnover deferential and three point eight yards per play

956
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,760
on offense. That's not gonna happen every week. For the Cowboys.

957
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,000
Joe Milton went most of the game. You know, he

958
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:18,800
had one game we played in New England last year,

959
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,000
but this is not a veteran that's comfortable in the system.

960
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,960
And then he bruised his elbow in the fourth quarter.

961
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,599
Will Greer took over on the last drive. You know,

962
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,199
Milton had a bunch of wow moments during his first

963
00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:31,599
training camp with Dallas. But we've been hearing this about

964
00:47:31,639 --> 00:47:33,679
Joe Milton since he was quarterback in Michigan before he

965
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,320
went to Tennessee. You know about his arm strength is great,

966
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,360
you know, Brian Schottenheimer, the arm is very evident. I mean,

967
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,360
you cannot miss the arm strength. Yeah, we've known that

968
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,440
for Joe Milton for the last six years. But that

969
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,079
hasn't resulted into good offenses moving the football down the field.

970
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,440
We'll have to see what his status is this week again,

971
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,480
after hurting his elbow on the final drive of the

972
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:57,440
game this past weekend against the Rams.

973
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 2: All right, keeping it moving here, Arizona up to six

974
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,159
and a half Teddy after opening yesterday three and a

975
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,519
half forty forty and a half starting to pop up

976
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:07,800
here on the Odds logic screen.

977
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Denver is a very popular choice in the betting

978
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,920
markets right now. We saw that in Week one they

979
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
trailed nine to nothing after the first quarter and then

980
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,599
had a thirty to nothing runout, and that was with

981
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,360
bo Nick struggling six of eleven for thirty one yards.

982
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:23,719
Jared Stidham came in and played great, played all the

983
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,559
second quarter, played the whole third quarter two Sam Ellinger

984
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:29,280
stepped into the fourth punt stopped on downs and a

985
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,199
touchdown drive late on a short field goal after a

986
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,920
San Francisco turnover. The Broncos defense is dominated in camp.

987
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,719
They dominated this game too, three point eight yards per

988
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,000
play allowed, The only allowed one third down conversion on

989
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,480
twelve attempts, They were plus four in turnovers, and they

990
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,719
had a fourth down stop as well. That being said,

991
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,559
San fran didn't play a whole lot of starters. Sean Payton,

992
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,840
I thought we started slow. Both first units. Called the

993
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,960
performance average to below average. You know, there are a

994
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,719
number of things that we're going to have to improve on.

995
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:09,039
So Peyton lighting the fire still despite the final score

996
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,679
showing that Denver won by three touchdowns. As for Arizona,

997
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:17,280
Kyler Murray two drives, one field goal, one interception, then

998
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,199
Jacobe Brissett Clayton Tune played the whole second half. The

999
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:23,000
office didn't move the ball much, one field goal after halftime.

1000
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:25,840
They had three turnovers and finished minus one, but still

1001
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,159
won the game as a dog. They fumbled their first

1002
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:34,000
two kickoff returns of the game. Then the quotes, You

1003
00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:37,239
know they wanted to be positive despite all the miscues

1004
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,320
that they had. You can't replicate it in practice. Moving

1005
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,760
around the speed you're moving going left to right, lateral

1006
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,760
bodies moving. I had fun. I had a lot of

1007
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,360
fun out there. That's Kyler Murray's quote. Worth noting. Jonathan

1008
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,639
Gannon has been the head coach in Arizona since twenty

1009
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:55,719
twenty three. His largest margin of victory in August three points.

1010
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,960
He has three wins by his one to one and

1011
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:02,800
three points, and he lost both previous Week two games

1012
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,400
by a touchdown or more.

1013
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,119
Speaker 2: All right, let's move along to Sunday. We've got Jacksonville

1014
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:09,800
taken on the Saints.

1015
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: Two and a half was the opener, thirty eight and

1016
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,519
a half down to one and a half.

1017
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:15,639
Speaker 2: Teddy, and by the way, we already let Andy know

1018
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,119
if you guys are here early to watch the wager

1019
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:18,760
Talk TV We're gonna be just a couple of minutes

1020
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,239
late because I like to filibuster before the show.

1021
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,679
Speaker 1: So Teddy, take your time on these last three games.

1022
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: Don't you worry? So you've been saying, let's move it along.

1023
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,199
I'm keep eye on the clock. I know we got

1024
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,519
to move and you know I shortened my analysis when necessary.

1025
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,360
What are we talking? Jaggs and Saints Jacksonville minus one

1026
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,000
and a half, minus two, minus two and a half

1027
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,400
last night, thirty eight and a half in that ballgame.

1028
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:46,239
It's one and a half everywhere today total thirty eight

1029
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,119
and a half. So we've seen the markets that took

1030
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:50,760
out the higher numbers. The Saints looked like the worst

1031
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,480
team in the NFL. Pretty bad. You know. Kellen Moore

1032
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,000
is now zero and one straight up and against it

1033
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:57,760
spread in August. And they were rough in that ballgame.

1034
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,360
Spencer Ratler, he's no NFL starting quarterback. They had a

1035
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,960
muffed Chargers punt, they still couldn't punch in a touchdown.

1036
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,599
Tyler Schuck came in after him, he was rough, two,

1037
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,840
threw a pick six. Jake Hayner played late, he threw

1038
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,119
a pick two. And in general, we like teams with

1039
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,079
a quarterback competition. The markets are saying, you know, and

1040
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,320
we've seen some Saints' money here, but the markets are saying,

1041
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,800
you know, not this quarterback competition. Perhaps against the Jaguars.

1042
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,920
They took heavy money minus one to minus six against Pittsburgh.

1043
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,559
Trevor Lawrence a seven minute opening drive against the Pittsburgh backups,

1044
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:36,440
they do a touchdown. Nick Mullins had a twelve play

1045
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,880
thirty six yards field goal drive and then two punts,

1046
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,639
and then Cam Little hit a seventy yard field goal

1047
00:51:40,639 --> 00:51:45,599
before a halftime. John Wolford one touchdown, one drive, one

1048
00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:48,960
touchdown step Andigan from Memphis one drive, field goal, second

1049
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,840
drive inside the thirty when the clock ran out. Liam

1050
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,239
Conan Liam Cohen said his offense was flaged twice in

1051
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,280
its opening drive, four drop passes in the first half,

1052
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,159
and the first team defense was gashed early. So there's

1053
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,400
urgency for the Saints. There's a little bit of urgency

1054
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,840
here for Jacksonville as well off even though the performance

1055
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,840
that wasn't as good as they hoped and again where

1056
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,400
they took a boatload of cash and lost all that

1057
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,639
money for their backers.

1058
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: All right, Buffalo is a two point underdog they're at Chicago.

1059
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:23,119
Total thirty eight and a half, pretty much across the board. Now, Teddy,

1060
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,119
as you mentioned, getting lots of early over money after

1061
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,800
last week seeing fourteen and two to the over thoughts

1062
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,519
on this one.

1063
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:38,199
Speaker 3: Uh so, there's no indication yet. That being said, let's

1064
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:40,400
emergency betting alert this. I have to think there's going

1065
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,000
to be money come to Chicago, just like we saw

1066
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,760
Tyson beaging and then case Keenum. That's a bet on two. Oh.

1067
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,000
When you talk about veteran qbs in the NFL, Austin

1068
00:52:51,079 --> 00:52:53,039
Read the third stringer. He was Rofe had two drives

1069
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,400
to win the game and couldn't move the football either time.

1070
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,239
There was a late game Shenanigans. We talked about that early.

1071
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:02,840
But the quarterback rotation that we like, and it's also

1072
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,039
worth noting Dennis Allen was blitzing. We like defense cornators

1073
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,880
who blitzed six sacks for the Bears. They'd have a

1074
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,480
couple of blown coverages that made a different. The red

1075
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:14,760
zone defense wasn't all that good for Buffalo. They threw

1076
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,800
the ball all game offense at seven point one yards

1077
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,360
per play. Mitch Trubisky was good, Mike White was good,

1078
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,079
Shane Bouchelle was good. Two bets was something to prove

1079
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,440
McDermott eleven and two straight up ten and three ats

1080
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,440
from twenty nineteen through twenty twenty three, but one and

1081
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,920
two straight up and against the spread last year this year,

1082
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,960
oh and one. The game they won last year was

1083
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:37,840
nine to three. And Buffalo didn't run the football well

1084
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,679
last week. I would expect we'll see lots of running

1085
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,079
the football this week against Chicago the Bears. You know,

1086
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,360
I expect them to take some money. No surprise year

1087
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,119
if this line closes three or higher.

1088
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:53,599
Speaker 2: All right, last but not least Monday night preseason Week two,

1089
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:57,360
Cincinnati opened up three, sitting at three, still thirty nine

1090
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,280
and a half up to forty one and a half.

1091
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,280
Tell me why the Bengals are getting well a little

1092
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,039
bit more love again here in week two after just

1093
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,400
getting throttled by the Eagles last week.

1094
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 3: Well, so Washington has shown that they didn't give a

1095
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:20,239
crap worth noting this line. It's gonna say open three

1096
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,480
and still at three. This line was at two and

1097
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:26,760
a half everywhere last night and is now three this morning.

1098
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:29,480
So one book might have opened three. The broader markets

1099
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,400
open two and a half. And we've seen the broader

1100
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,400
markets move from two and a half to three. We've

1101
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,800
seen a bunch of over money for this ball game.

1102
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,880
If you like the over, don't wait one last emergency

1103
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,639
betting alert before this line is through open thirty nine

1104
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,960
before the show is through open thirty nine and a half.

1105
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,920
Now we're looking at forty one and a half. It's

1106
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,079
a single event game on Monday Night. After a week

1107
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:54,159
of overs, we expect to see over more, even more

1108
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:59,440
over money coming in this one. And look, it's probably

1109
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,239
not gonna be mine money, all right. The starting offense

1110
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,679
looked great for Cincinnati, Joe Burrow with two first quarter

1111
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,400
touchdown drives. That was since he started. Versus Philly backups,

1112
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:13,079
they couldn't run the football. Desmond Ritters showed us again

1113
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:16,519
that he's not an NFL quarterback. I didn't need a

1114
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,519
late fourth quarter starring drive. But he wasn't good. Jake

1115
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:20,920
Browning wasn't very good. His interceptions essentially end of the

1116
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,920
game put Philly up by three scores. Do not overreact

1117
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,519
to Cincinnati's defensive struggles like everybody on social media did.

1118
00:55:29,519 --> 00:55:31,639
Oh my god, the Bengals defense again again and again.

1119
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:36,599
What since he did in that game base defense only,

1120
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,039
all right. They weren't showing any looks. They weren't showing

1121
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,480
any blitzes. They had the first string defense got lit up,

1122
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:49,000
but they were just playing base defense. Joe Burrow got

1123
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:51,920
extensive preseason actionally the second time in his career. We

1124
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:54,679
could see more of that this week. Be interested to

1125
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,079
see what happens with Burrow, and I mean he's gonna play.

1126
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,360
As for Washington, the mean again. They allowed an opening

1127
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,760
kickoff return touchdown. Josh Johnson and Sam Hartman were okay.

1128
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,599
Hartman got the start, He wasn't good. He was out

1129
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:07,199
classed by the Patriots defense. Johnson played the rest of

1130
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,320
the way. He threw a pick too, but the offense

1131
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,280
moved the ball at least with him behind center. Dan Quinn,

1132
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,559
we talked about it last week, the joint practice sessions.

1133
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,039
Be aware of what's going on to the joint practice sessions.

1134
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:21,599
Last week. Quinn was happy with the commanders looking the

1135
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:23,800
joint practic session. As a result, he announced he was

1136
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,199
gonna sit thirty plus guys for the game, and that

1137
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,360
certainly affected Washington's results, both on the field and the

1138
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,920
points spread. That being said, his quote after Washington thirteen

1139
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,599
penalties compared to two for New England. All three phases,

1140
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,280
I thought it was sloppy. They stacked and that showed

1141
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,000
sloppiness to me, and then the practice was just the opposite,

1142
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,760
So that did not make me happy. Perhaps a bit

1143
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,079
more urgency this week for the Commanders when it comes

1144
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:52,559
to the game, but again, if the joint practices are good,

1145
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:54,840
I don't think Quinn's gonna worry about it all that much.

1146
00:56:55,519 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll be back next Monday. I'll be in Ireland.

1147
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to make sure that I have good WiFi,

1148
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,679
can be here. If not, Dan Alexander will be filling

1149
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,679
into the host here for me. Kelly Stewart, Kelly and Vegas.

1150
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,400
On all your social channels, Teddy Covers at Teddy Underscore Covers,

1151
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,559
make sure you guys hang around.

1152
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:13,679
Speaker 1: Wager Talk Today is up next